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The Skeletons of Obama

Tue, May 13, 2008 at 9:58:30 pm PDT

Here’s a quick run-down of some of Barack Obama’s questionable and disturbing associations:

* Rabidly anti-Israel Columbia University professor Rashid Khalidi. The Obamas were regular dinner guests at Khalidi’s Hyde Park home for years.

* Terrorist sympathizer Ali Abunimah, who runs the viciously anti-Israel web site Electronic Intifada.

* Unrepentant Weather Underground terrorists William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn.

* Reverend Jeremiah Wright. What more needs to be said?

* Anti-Israel foreign policy adviser Samantha Power — fired after calling Hillary Clinton a “monster.”

* Anti-Israel foreign policy adviser Robert Malley — fired when it was revealed he has been holding talks with Hamas.

* Hatem El-Hady, former official of the Hamas-linked charity Kindhearts, closed by the Justice Department. El-Hady’s web page—with Michelle Obama listed as an opt-in “friend”—suddenly vanished from the Obama campaign site with no explanation, after being exposed by LGF and others.

* Tony Rezko — a Chicago fixer currently in a whole lot of legal trouble.

There are more, I know; this is just off the top of my head.

I have never witnessed a presidential election in which a major candidate had this many skeletons in his closet.

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1 bosforus  Tue, May 13, 2008 9:59:33pm

More red flags than accomplishments.

2 Karridine  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:00:13pm

Obama will hide the bleached, WHITE bones of these closet corpses...

3 SemperHunden  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:00:23pm

Change!

4 BlueCanuck  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:00:35pm

Nice set of bone racks there. And this is what we have seen to date. Any bets there's more in the back of his closet?

5 BlueCanuck  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:00:50pm

re: #3 SemperHunden

Change!

/drink

6 Buster Bunny  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:00:56pm

something about having a spine .. let alone a skeleton.

7 jcm  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:01:30pm

Not much room left under the campaign bus.

8 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:01:39pm
9 Macker  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:02:00pm

I wonder if Tim Townsend is reading this!

10 Racer X  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:02:32pm

Hillary you magnificent bitch!

11 bosforus  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:02:44pm

Anyone who gets into the political arena without being able to avoid this kind of baggage doesn't deserve to be an American politician.

12 itellu3times  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:04:15pm

Michelle.

13 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:04:16pm
14 jcm  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:04:29pm

Guilt by association! Unfair! Racist!

/moonbat

15 The Other Les  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:04:39pm

This guy could have more red flags than a May Day parade.

16 Abu Maven  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:04:51pm

One underappreciated point is that Tony Rezko is Syrian and is himself heavily involved with radical anti-Israel politics.

17 Buster Bunny  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:05:14pm

IF Obama wins in November .. i'm gonna find a nice orbiting planetoid that i can sit on for the next couple of years and pick up the old Television of yesteryear.

He is not just bad news for America. He is DEATH for America.

18 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:05:15pm

If they were put away neatly and tidily in the closet, I'd feel more comfortable. But not all of those ghosts are locked tightly in the closet, not even close.

There's rotten business afoot, and that's pretty damn obvious.

19 Shug  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:05:22pm

Lots of Skeletons?
No problem

Prince bin talal alwaleed will just install extra large closets at the White House

20 brainwizard73  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:05:27pm

Hey you guys lighten up on the junior senator from Illinois.

Didn't a guy named Bill Clinton have a few skels in his closet? And what did he do for us?

That great economy...he sure did that, right? That was all him, right?

FMLA!
NAFTA!
Blew off Kyoto.

I seem to recall a few problems involving an orange thong in the second term, but you people have to "move on".

21 victor_yugo  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:05:27pm

re: #12 itellu3times

Michelle.

Ma Bell AT&T.

22 itellu3times  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:05:34pm

btw, Hillary says something like she is "ready to execute the office of President of the United States", doesn't that sound ominous?

23 Olderthandirt  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:05:44pm

Charles, please keep this list handy and perhaps expand it where possible. It will be most useful if BHO gets the Dems nomination or become Hillary's VP running mate!

24 laZardo  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:05:56pm

re: #14 jcm

What about McCain's skeletons! Surely the Republican conservonazis have entire concentration camp mass graves of them!

///////////

25 Racer X  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:06:27pm

"I'm asking you to believe"

... believe that I'm NOT getting a lot of money from outside of America.

26 Buster Bunny  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:06:41pm

why doesnt he just get Ted Kennedy as his running mate?

and Jimmy Carter as Vice President?

27 Shug  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:06:52pm

Change....the subject

28 Buster Bunny  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:07:16pm

But .. he's gonna save the world .. Obama girl said so !

29 Hannibal Smith  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:07:26pm

re: #1 bosforus

More red flags than accomplishments.

More red flags than a Berkeley Mayday parade!

30 experiencedtraveller  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:07:45pm

Tony Rezko seems the cleanest of them all...

31 brainwizard73  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:08:04pm

re: #30 experiencedtraveller

Tony Rezko seems the cleanest of them all...

indicted, not convicted...

32 itellu3times  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:08:16pm

His average white grandma.
His Muslim father.

His evil twin Karab.

33 Buster Bunny  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:08:42pm

Give me a solution to a problem .. and i'll give you a method of working out that there was no problem to begin with.

Thomas Edison .. 1872

34 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:08:50pm
35 Hannibal Smith  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:09:25pm

Oops, #15 beat me to it.

36 Buster Bunny  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:10:04pm

re: #35 Hannibal Smith

Oops, #15 beat me to it.

Flags .. mayday .. yup .. we got it.

37 blutonazi98  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:10:05pm

ya but that other guy is old and the chick couldn't even keep her man happy

38 laZardo  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:10:08pm

Oh, and speaking of Israel...

HAPPY SIXTIETH!

39 Racer X  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:10:30pm
40 victor_yugo  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:10:30pm

re: #34 buzzsawmonkey

His communist poet mentor in Hawaii, whose name I forget.

It's the anti-Zionazi hair rays again. Put on your tinfoil hat, and maybe you can remember.

41 Render  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:10:33pm

Endorsed by Louis Farrakhan.

BIG BED
LITTLE
ROOM,
R

42 Abu Bin Squid  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:10:36pm

I've lived my life on the outskirts of Chicago. Corrupt politics are the norm there. How the entire nation MSM can fall for this calculating commie-pig is beyond me.

Good thought for the day:
Every word out of Michelle's mouth is another vote for McCain. Oh, I forgot, McCain is angry - Michelle is speaking truth to power.

43 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:10:40pm

re: #33 Buster Bunny

Give me a solution to a problem .. and i'll give you a method of working out that there was no problem to begin with.

Thomas Edison .. 1872

I'm not willing to wait for try #1001.

44 Macker  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:10:53pm

re: #32 itellu3times

His average white grandma.
His Muslim father.
His Muslim stepfather.

His evil twin Karab.

There, fixed that for ya!

45 Ma Sands  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:11:03pm

OT: Let's see....how can I tie it in, at least a little, to the posting's subject --oh, I know!
This will be the world the next President of the United States will have to deal with.....


Yikes! Something stevieray posted up in the links a few minutes ago, has me biting my fingernails, sitting on the edge of my seat, eyes wide as saucers... ): It is titled "Lebanon's 300"......and it is currently unfolding..... ):

46 wolfie  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:11:13pm

re: #34 buzzsawmonkey

His communist poet mentor in Hawaii, whose name I forget.

Frank Davis?

47 jcm  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:11:18pm

re: #24 laZardo

What about McCain's skeletons! Surely the Republican conservonazis have entire concentration camp mass graves of them!

///////////

McCain signed a confession that he was a war criminal.

/moonbat

48 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:11:49pm
49 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:12:14pm
50 Hannibal Smith  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:12:39pm

There's the support of former SDS leader Carl Davidson:

[Link: www.godlikeproductions.com...]

(Can't say anything for that site, it was just the first ref up on Google. But I do know Carl's affiliations well from his time in Chicago.)

51 toomanysnax  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:13:33pm

I don't even know anyone ad wierd as O'Bama's average friend. (He is Irish, isn't he?)

52 Scarab  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:14:03pm

......Check this out!

[Link: www.debbieschlussel.com...]


Why isn't this getting any attention?

Scarab

53 Racer X  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:14:27pm

re: #47 jcm

McCain signed a confession that he was a war criminal.

/moonbat

Hey if I had 2 broken arms, broken leg, and a broken jaw, and they just told me I would not make it to tomorrow, I would sign anything.

54 experiencedtraveller  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:14:48pm

What a badge of honor!

John McCain has withstood torture for his country.

55 Macker  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:15:05pm

re: #45 Ma Sands

Yikes! Something stevieray posted up in the links a few minutes ago, has me biting my fingernails, sitting on the edge of my seat, eyes wide as saucers... ): It is titled "Lebanon's 300"......and it is currently unfolding..... ):

I have an issue of imagining Mr. Dinner Jacket as metrosexual, like Xerxes was portrayed as in '300.'
At least in 'The 300 Spartans,' Xerxes was more "kingly." And the little bastard ain't that either.

56 itellu3times  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:15:42pm

re: #49 buzzsawmonkey

Could be. I'm blanking.

Just idly googling:

[Link: www.google.com...]

[Link: www.postchronicle.com...]

In his biography of Barack Obama, David Mendell writes about Obama's life as a "secret smoker" and how he "went to great lengths to conceal the habit." But what about Obama's secret political life? It turns out that Obama's childhood mentor, Frank Marshall Davis, was a communist.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

57 Buster Bunny  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:15:43pm

re: #54 experiencedtraveller

What a badge of honor!

John McCain has withstood torture for his country.

Anyone who survived the Carter years .. lived through torture in his own country.

Vietnam? just a side-effect !

58 gop_patriot  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:15:56pm

re: #45 Ma Sands

Wow. Thanks StevieRay, and Ma. I'm sending that one out to friends and family.

59 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:15:57pm
60 NYexpat  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:16:08pm

I don't know what you guys are going on about! Really now these things are just distractions! Come on now, WE NEED CHANGE!
/s

61 jcm  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:16:13pm
62 Buster Bunny  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:16:41pm

re: #60 NYexpat

I don't know what you guys are going on about! Really now these things are just distractions! Come on now, WE NEED CHANGE!
/s

NOT UNTIL I'VE FINISHED MY WAFFLES !

63 itellu3times  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:16:44pm

Dem bones dem bones gonna rise again.

64 laZardo  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:17:25pm

re: #55 Macker

I have an issue of imagining Mr. Dinner Jacket as metrosexual, like Xerxes was portrayed as in '300.'

Good thing I have a trash can handy...

65 pat  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:17:38pm

Then I will add VERY QUESTIONABLE donations from ISLAMIC countries. Which I believe are encouraged by Obama and his bizarre core of advisers. And should be reviewed by the authorities. I think Obama is taking an advantage of the perception that he is a secret Muslim, that he wants to withdraw and disarm America, that he dislikes America intensely as does his wife, and that he will sell out Israel. All things that he denies, and then waffles on.

66 wolfie  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:17:41pm

FARC terrorists in Colombia

67 Whale watcher  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:18:01pm

You know, this conversation doesn’t help my kids.

68 NYexpat  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:18:15pm

I always think of when David Duke ran; even the Republicans turned their back on him; Here we have another racist, with far more baggage, and the press keeps on glossing it over.

69 toomanysnax  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:18:28pm

"Don't know what you guys are going on about! Really now these things are just distractions! Come on now, WE NEED CHANGE!"

After O'Bama gets through raising your taxes, CHANGE is all you are going to have left.

70 DesertSage  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:18:51pm

John McCain was proud of his country...even as he was being tortured for over five years as a POW.

Michelle Obama was never proud of her country...even as she was being pampered in Harvard for five years.

71 pat  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:18:52pm

re: #66 wolfie

ditto. what is that about. justice will investigate in 5,4,3,....

72 sngnsgt  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:19:00pm

Obama has a skeleton in his closet?

It's more like Obama's has a cemetery in his closet.

73 JustMyView  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:19:28pm

re: #24 laZardo

What about McCain's skeletons!

Funny you should ask. He fired two of them just this past weekend.

74 Buster Bunny  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:20:02pm

re: #67 Whale watcher

You know, this conversation doesn’t help my kids.

Forget your kids ... if you dont stand up for what is relevant and PREVENT people such as Obama grabbing the reins of your nation, your kids will be competing with third world nations for relevancy in a world that will have gone right past them !

Think on that next time you think the ballot box is irrelevant.

75 Ma Sands  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:20:10pm

re: #55 Macker

Well, just before they made the movie, one of my sons brought home the original book......and the Persian king was tall, true, but quite willowy.....and did not mind that thousands of his warriors were, upon their demise, making a river up to the waists, almost, of the few.....

And, in the Bible story of him, he was an embarrassed, drunken, vicious, self-important despot.......does that fit? :)

76 jcm  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:20:30pm

re: #53 Racer X

Hey if I had 2 broken arms, broken leg, and a broken jaw, and they just told me I would not make it to tomorrow, I would sign anything.

He withstood a long time. He was offered special treatment and early release.
The prisoners had a policy, withstand as long as possible but save yourself from permanent injury or death.

For all the misgivings I have about McCain, I know his core character is rock solid when a crisis hits. It's when he plays politics he screws up.

77 experiencedtraveller  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:21:26pm

re: #59 buzzsawmonkey

monkey... when are you going to get behind the only adult in this race?

...sleep sometime!

...thanx/havefun/charles is indomitable

78 Opilio  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:21:32pm

Posted on the last thread before I noticed everyone was gone...

I updated my IN-OH-PA margin of victory county map to add West Virginia. I had a problem with the scale though -- it only went up to 30%. Clinton won Mingo county, WV by margin of 80%. I had to add extend the color range a bit.

Anyway, if a picture's worth a thousand words, then a map's got to worth at least a few hundred:

Dem Primary Results Map

Definitely NOT a map of the Obamanation.

79 HelloDare  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:21:37pm

re: #70 DesertSage

John McCain was proud of his country...even as he was being tortured for over five years as a POW.

Michelle Obama was never proud of her country...even as she was being pampered in Harvard for five years.


She was tortured, too. She struggled to pay for those piano lessons for her kids.

80 Killian Bundy  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:21:37pm

Let's recap, Obama:

Is a socialist black separatist that hates America and dislikes whitey,

Is Gun Satan,

Is officially endorsed by Calypso Louie and the Nation of Islam, FARC, Hamas, Daniel Ortega, Fidel Castro, and Hugo Chavez, among others,

Is personal friends with domestic terrorists, unrepentant to this day, who bombed the Pentagon and several other buildings,

Is not a Muslim, but will surrender to them because he likes them better than constant sore Israel,

Paid for his Chicago property the same way Hillary paid for her cattle futures,

Will raise your taxes significantly which will, in turn, crush the equities markets,

Has more experience at drug use than governance,

Wants to turn the U.S. into France,

Makes manure taste good, and

Will, with a Bonkey Senate, have activist judges to the left of Ruth Bader Ginsberg flying out the door.

Am I missing much?

/besides Code Pinkos and other assorted LLL freaks, who the hell in their right mind would vote for this lightweight travesty who places his hands over his genitals every time the National Anthem is played, knowing that hundreds of thousands died for that flag?

81 esch  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:21:57pm

A whole bunch of skeletons hanging around?

Hmmm. How about

Obama: Army of Darkness

82 Edouard  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:22:40pm

Even his supporters can't think of a single thing that Obama's ever accomplished.

YouTube: Name One Accomplishment by Obama

YouTube: Name One Accomplishment by Obama, part II

YouTube:

83 HelloDare  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:22:57pm
"I have never witnessed a presidential election in which a major candidate had this many skeletons in his closet."

Change!

84 Carl in Jerusalem  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:23:08pm

What's more amazing is that if you don't read blogs, you probably know nothing about most of those skeletons. The MSM has given Obama a pass.

85 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:23:49pm

Charles - "I have never witnessed a presidential election in which a major candidate had this many skeletons in his closet." You forgot to add that those skeletons in his closet were "outted" during the Democratic Primary, not the general election!
McCain may not wish to look into or question Obama's ah, skeletons, but I'd bet that the 527's will and will turn up even more skeletons (not to mention that I have a gut feeling Hillary is saving some skeletons for Denver)!

86 indythinker  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:23:52pm

We need a Barack Obama drinking game. How about...

When Barack Obama says "hope" or "change," take a drink. If he says "hope" and "change" together, take two drinks.

When Barack Obama refers to his character or judgment as reasons why his lack of experience should not preclude him from running the country, take a drink.

When Barack Obama blames something that he said or did on his campaign staff, take a drink.

When Barack Obama says he is capable of leading people so they won't make so many mistakes, take a drink.

When Barack Obama brushes away criticism of his associations by saying that is "guilt by association," take two drinks.

When Barack Obama criticizes an opponent for negative campaigning, take a drink.

Please help out.

87 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:24:14pm
88 BlueCanuck  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:24:27pm

re: #84 Carl in Jerusalem

Good morning Carl. Let us hope that more people find the blogs that post this information. it's our only hope.

89 RTLM  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:25:11pm

Change I can do without.

90 BlueCanuck  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:25:14pm

re: #86 indythinker

Sorry, no can do. I gave up blackout drinking several years ago.

/don't ask.

91 Maximu§  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:25:56pm

If the FBI were running a background check to verify Barack Obama’s application to be an agent ...these "friends" of his would disqualify him from holding the sensitive position.

92 Psaturn  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:26:24pm

Hoooo Boy....

I hope that deflates the Obamassiahship...

93 Macker  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:26:48pm

re: #81 esch

A whole bunch of skeletons hanging around?

Hmmm. How about

Obama: Army of Darkness

I'll bet these folks won't even know what Gort! Klaatu barada nikto! means. Except that it'd be racist to them.

94 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:26:58pm

re: #84 Carl in Jerusalem Hey Carl! Good to see you out here so ......early?!
You really ought to check the last 25 or so comments in the prior thread where it was revealed that Obama has been receving monetary donations from "Americans" in such unusual places as Iran!
Yeppers, it's true.

95 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:27:01pm

re: #52 Scarab

......Check this out!

[Link: www.debbieschlussel.com...]


Why isn't this getting any attention?

Scarab

Debbie deserves closer scrutiny after that, and I'l watch her in the future. Her reporting doesn't give off an aura of falsity, yet nothing she's saying suprises me. We are dealing with expansionist Islam as a major problem to the west and specifically to our country. It is not beyond reasonable suspicion that their manchurian candidate was placed long ago.

rgbdj, out.

96 Psaturn  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:27:28pm

re: #84 Carl in Jerusalem

What's more amazing is that if you don't read blogs, you probably know nothing about most of those skeletons. The MSM has given Obama a pass.

I was actually surprised that people are actually aware of Obama's situation but still voted for him anyway...

97 calcajun  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:27:36pm

I know this has been mentioned before, but I did the rough math and BHO needs about 148-150 delegates to get to the 2025 magic #. Of the remaining primaries, there are less than 200 delegates. It seems that HRC's plan is to win big again in Kentucky and Puerto Rico. She'll lose in Oregon and South Dakota and Montana have less that 25 delegate between them.

In short, the plan is to make sure BHO does not have the 2025 before Denver -- and hope that his baggage, as cited above, starts pulling him down so that she can legitimize a fight for the nomination on the convention floor.

Of course, if she pulls it off, I expect to see the Democrat party go "FOOM!"

98 Ma Sands  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:28:23pm

re: #84 Carl in Jerusalem

You know, Carl.....I have been finding that that isn't the case......so many of the people I know, who still are not familiar with the word "blog", somehow know these things.....I cannot find out how, because they cannot trace where they've learned, most of the time.....but they do know.....at least the adult adults......it's the young adults that haven't heard yet.....

99 esch  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:28:36pm

re: #93 Macker

Yeah I thought about the racist angle. Although after looking at the polling numbers...

100 redc1c4  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:29:07pm

re: #86 indythinker

We need a Barack Obama drinking game. How about...

When Barack Obama says "hope" or "change," take a drink. If he says "hope" and "change" together, take two drinks.

When Barack Obama refers to his character or judgment as reasons why his lack of experience should not preclude him from running the country, take a drink.

When Barack Obama blames something that he said or did on his campaign staff, take a drink.

When Barack Obama says he is capable of leading people so they won't make so many mistakes, take a drink.

When Barack Obama brushes away criticism of his associations by saying that is "guilt by association," take two drinks.

When Barack Obama criticizes an opponent for negative campaigning, take a drink.

Please help out.

i'm drinking..... does that help?

/last bit of the 24 hour B-day marathon, and then, back to everyday guzzling. %-)

101 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:29:51pm
102 BlueCanuck  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:29:58pm

re: #100 redc1c4

There's a difference?

103 Reluctant Democrat  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:32:09pm

Wow, Khalidi is so radical even Princeton wouldn't hire him.

Rashid Khalidi

104 pat  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:32:12pm

re: #73 JustMyView

Funny you should ask. He fired two of them just this past weekend.

Perfectly legitimate issue.

105 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:32:28pm

It's possible that Hillary will have the magical 40 point win when all the votes are counted. That is not insignificant.

I really AM going to bed now...

106 daledog  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:32:33pm

Let me guess - no one in the Obama camp had an inkling about Malley:

Also, Rezko is a Syrian. Should this matter? I just detect a pattern here. Senator Hope seems to prefer middle eastern crooks over the home-bred kind. Why is this?

107 Racer X  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:32:53pm

re: #73 JustMyView

Funny you should ask. He fired two of them just this past weekend.

*pop*


Was that supposed to be return fire?

108 redc1c4  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:33:13pm

re: #102 BlueCanuck

There's a difference?

semantics...... i'm thinking of running for office. %-)

109 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:33:17pm

re: #84 Carl in Jerusalem Indeed the MSM has been giving him a pass; as I mentioned in my #94, all of the money flowing in from, apparently, THOUSANDS of Americans, some in Nations such as Iran where we have no diplomatic relations nor allow tourism or business has been a matter of record (from Obama's own website no less - you just use a pull-down menu as to which nation you are currently in, click a box that says you're an American and you can donate up to $200 without anyone at the FEC even seeing WHO it was (by name, I mean) that gave that money) since February 12th! No one in the MSM managed to actually go to Obama's website and look at his donar list or how he collects his donations? WHAT?!

110 Ma Sands  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:33:48pm

re: #98 Carl in Jerusalem

Thinking about it, I think I do know, though --it's the ones who are familiar with blogs, who have been forming that info into e-mails, speeches, talks at pot lucks, radio interviews, talk shows --that sort of "second-hand" thing, who are feeding the thinking populace the truth......and it IS getting out..............and I agree, it is the blogs at the foundation of it..... :)

111 average_guy  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:34:00pm

OT, but only sort of...

Hillary Clinton goes to a primary school in New York to talk about the
world.

After her talk she offers a question time.

One little boy puts up his hand. The Senator asks him what his name is.

"Kenneth"

"And what is your question, Kenneth?"

"I have three questions:

First - Whatever happened to the medical health care plan you were paid to

develop during your husband's eight years in the office as President?

Second - Why would you run for President after your husband shamed the
office?

Third - Whatever happened to all those things you took when you left the
White House?"

Just then the bell rings for recess.

Hillary Clinton informs the kids that they will continue after recess.

When they resume, Hillary says,

"Okay, where were we? Oh, that's right, question time. Who has a question?"

A different little boy puts his hand up.

Hillary points him out and asks him what his name is.

"Larry."

"And what is your question, Larry?"

"I have five questions:

First - Whatever happened to the medical health care plan you were

paid to develop during your husband's eight years in the office as
President?

Second - Why would you run for President after your husband shamed the
office?

Third - Whatever happened to all those things you took when you left the
White House?"

Fourth- Why did the recess bell go off 20 minutes early?

Fifth - What happened to Kenneth?"

112 calcajun  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:34:00pm

re: #81 esch

And THIS, you ignorant pinheads is my BOOMSTICK!

113 redc1c4  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:34:07pm

re: #106 daledog

Let me guess - no one in the Obama camp had an inkling about Malley:

Also, Rezko is a Syrian. Should this matter? I just detect a pattern here. Senator Hope seems to prefer middle eastern crooks over the home-bred kind. Why is this?

he was taught to dance with the one that brung ya?

114 pat  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:34:50pm

The odd thing is Obama is kicking butt in the red States, because the Dems are so radical. Hillary concentrated on the blue States. Obama was a better general. Plain and simple. He will not be a pushover.

115 Edouard  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:35:20pm

re: #34 buzzsawmonkey

His communist poet mentor in Hawaii, whose name I forget.

Obama's Communist Mentor -- Frank Marshall Davis

Read All About Them.

116 HelloDare  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:35:28pm

re: #99 esch

Larry Elder: Blacks Are More Racist Than Whites.

"THE TONIGHT SHOW" recently invited me to discuss my book, The Ten Things You Can't Say in America.

Jay Leno's producer showed the greatest interest in the first chapter, "Blacks Are More Racist Than Whites." This chapter, too, provoked the most interest during my interview with the "American Urban Radio Network" (the same group Sen. Lieberman recently addressed when he professed his admiration for Minister Louis Farrakhan).

Are blacks really more racist than whites?

When three white men dragged black James Byrd to death in Jasper, Texas, President Clinton quite properly called the crime "shocking and outrageous." "In the face of this tragedy," Clinton said, "(the people of Jasper) must join together across racial lines to demonstrate that an act of evil like this is not what this country is all about. I think that we've all been touched by it, and I can only imagine that virtually everyone who lives there is in agony at this moment. They must re-affirm, and so must we, that we will not tolerate this."

Thus, the bigots who dragged James Byrd became Exhibit A, a national symbol for white racism and hatred against blacks.

But what about Colin Ferguson? In 1993, Ferguson, a black man, boarded a Long Island Railroad commuter train and proceeded to mow down white passengers, killing six, wounding 19. Before the killings, Ferguson made frequent outbursts declaring his hatred against whites.

But somehow, Ferguson never became Exhibit A for black racism and hatred against whites. In fact, when Nassau County executive Thomas Gulotta called Ferguson an "animal," Jesse Jackson accused Gulotta of "stereotyping"! Most Americans, quite reasonably, considered Ferguson an abhorrent, hateful, deviant murderer, not some symbol for black bigotry. Of course, both cases -- the Byrd killing and the Ferguson rampage -- are aberrant instances of racial hatred. But where we see black/white crime, the bad guy is usually black.

In one recent year, the FBI recorded 1.7 million violent acts -- murder, manslaughter, rape, and aggravated assault -- of interracial crime. Of that figure, nearly 1.2 million involved black-white crime. Ninety percent of these cases involved a black perpetrator and a white victim. Thus, blacks, while comprising 12 percent of the population, committed over one million acts of violent crime against whites. On the other hand, whites, while comprising 70 percent of the population, committed about 100,000 acts of violent crime against blacks.

Look at hate crime. In 1995, the FBI recorded 7,947 incidents of hate crimes. But blacks, again while comprising 12 percent of the population, committed 27 percent of hate crimes. Whites, 70 percent of the population, committed 59 percent of hate crimes. And of the nearly one million black violent acts against whites, how many were driven by racial animus? During the 1992 Los Angeles riots, Damien "Football" Williams assaulted white trucker Reginald Denny. Williams clearly targeted Denny because of his race, even allowing a black motorist to proceed unharmed. But despite hate-crime laws on the books, authorities never charged Williams with a hate crime.

Similarly, when a group of black teenagers assaulted then raped the so-called "Central Park Jogger," few called the assault a "hate crime." Instead, many called the attack a case of "wilding," a practice where youths go on a rampa

Are the majority of blacks racist? Of course not, no more so than are the majority of whites. The point here is perspective. When blacks condemn white bigotry, we must be equally vigilant about black bigotry.
[more]

117 Opilio  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:38:42pm

re: #451 realwest

What?! Cleveland came in EVEN between the two of them?

Actually RW, that is a pale green, the color just to the right of even. I know it's hard to discern some of the shades. Obama took Cuyahoga county by a margin 7% (53-46). Not too strong, considering...

Clinton won Mingo county 7813 to 712 (with apparently about 350 for Edwards.) That's a split of 88%-8%-4%! Or, to look at it another way, 92% of the voters in an essentially two person race did not choose Obama.

118 average_guy  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:40:26pm

re: #117 Opilio

Actually RW, that is a pale green, the color just to the right of even. I know it's hard to discern some of the shades. Obama took Cuyahoga county by a margin 7% (53-46). Not too strong, considering...

Clinton won Mingo county 7813 to 712 (with apparently about 350 for Edwards.) That's a split of 88%-8%-4%! Or, to look at it another way, 92% of the voters in an essentially two person race did not choose Obama.

How could coment #117 be a reply to comment #451?

119 JeremyR  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:40:49pm

re: #86 indythinker

We need a Barack Obama drinking game. How about...

When Barack Obama says "hope" or "change," take a drink. If he says "hope" and "change" together, take two drinks.

When Barack Obama refers to his character or judgment as reasons why his lack of experience should not preclude him from running the country, take a drink.

When Barack Obama blames something that he said or did on his campaign staff, take a drink.

When Barack Obama says he is capable of leading people so they won't make so many mistakes, take a drink.

When Barack Obama brushes away criticism of his associations by saying that is "guilt by association," take two drinks.

When Barack Obama criticizes an opponent for negative campaigning, take a drink.

Please help out.

You're NUTS. Lizards will be dropping like flies from alcohol poisoning. We'll be so drunk we'll miss the election, and popcorn sales will crash.

120 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:41:01pm
121 Killian Bundy  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:41:41pm

re: #73 JustMyView

Funny you should ask. He fired two of them just this past weekend.

Oh my!

/evil as they are, took a cyclone to get them widely noticed, the Burmese Junta haven't evolved to the U.S. terrorist organization list, where Obama's Hamas homeboys reside, and have been for years

122 average_guy  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:42:05pm

re: #117 Opilio

Actually RW, that is a pale green, the color just to the right of even. I know it's hard to discern some of the shades. Obama took Cuyahoga county by a margin 7% (53-46). Not too strong, considering...

Clinton won Mingo county 7813 to 712 (with apparently about 350 for Edwards.) That's a split of 88%-8%-4%! Or, to look at it another way, 92% of the voters in an essentially two person race did not choose Obama.


In addition to that, if you're talking about Ohio, there is no Mingo County in Ohio.

123 JeremyR  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:42:22pm

re: #96 Psaturn

I was actually surprised that people are actually aware of Obama's situation but still voted for him anyway...

CHAOS!

124 Whale watcher  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:42:34pm

re: #74 Buster Bunny

Forget your kids ... if you dont stand up for what is relevant and PREVENT people such as Obama grabbing the reins of your nation, your kids will be competing with third world nations for relevancy in a world that will have gone right past them !

Think on that next time you think the ballot box is irrelevant.


Oh hon, relax!

That was a Michelle Obama quote.

125 pat  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:42:36pm

re: #116 HelloDare

51% of murders in America are committed by blacks. That is an appalling. But the chance of an illegal alien raping or killing you is 3 times higher, per capita. It is simply unsafe to live near a black or Hispanic neighborhood according to the FBI. Which is why Rev Wright is fleeing to the Burbs.

126 DesertSage  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:42:48pm

re: #682 average_guy

How could coment #117 be a reply to comment #451?

Paranormal activity?

127 Opilio  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:42:56pm

re: #118 average_guy

How could coment #117 be a reply to comment #451?

I'm from the future.

or responding to a comment from a previous thread where it might stand a better chance of being seen.

I'm not sure which.

128 wolfie  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:43:03pm

re: #114 pat

The odd thing is Obama is kicking butt in the red States, because the Dems are so radical. Hillary concentrated on the blue States. Obama was a better general. Plain and simple. He will not be a pushover.

I agree.
He's shown he can play in the big leagues.
He'll have the MSM 100% behind him.
He'll have buckets of money & no one will ask where he got it.
No pushover, for sure.

129 Merovign  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:44:17pm

Obama's new campaign theme song - "Every Day is Halloween" by Ministry (UK).

The really creepy part is how he sails past each major disaster - press corps complicity is worth how many poll percentage points?

130 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:44:33pm

re: #117 OpilioHey, thanks for carrying that over to this thread for me from the last thread! Seriously, I would probably have gotten back to the prior thread before turning in, but I sincerecley appreciate your bringing it here.
And I'm afraid it's my eyesight, not the modest change in color that's to blame for that! If Obama took Cleveland by only 7% that's truly remarkable for Clinton. It really is - someone out here (a long time ago) published a map of New York (where Hillary won by something like 20% of the vote, but if you looked at certain locations, such as Harlem, she was truly routed by Obama there!
BTW, y'all ought to link that map over here for folks to see!

131 Killian Bundy  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:44:41pm

re: #114 pat

The odd thing is Obama is kicking butt in the red States

And you really think he'll carry those red States in November?

/sorry, didn't mean to upding you

132 Opilio  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:45:39pm

re: #122 average_guy

In addition to that, if you're talking about Ohio, there is no Mingo County in Ohio.

Yes, I was answering RW's question regarding the Ohio portion of the Indiana-Ohio-Pennsylvania-West Virginia map I had posted. In my original post I had also made a mention of Mingo county, WV.

Is there anything else?

133 average_guy  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:46:26pm

re: #132 Opilio

Yes, I was answering RW's question regarding the Ohio portion of the Indiana-Ohio-Pennsylvania-West Virginia map I had posted. In my original post I had also made a mention of Mingo county, WV.

Is there anything else?

I gotta get this paranormal time travel thing down so I stop screwing up the thread...

134 Whale watcher  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:46:30pm

re: #74 Buster Bunny

Forget your kids ... if you dont stand up for what is relevant and PREVENT people such as Obama grabbing the reins of your nation, your kids will be competing with third world nations for relevancy in a world that will have gone right past them !

Think on that next time you think the ballot box is irrelevant.

Here ya go, snookums.

"MEREDITH VIEIRA: Michelle, do you feel that the Reverend Wright betrayed your husband?

MICHELLE OBAMA: I think Barack has spoken so clearly and eloquently about this.

MEREDITH VIEIRA: But do you personally feel that the Reverend Wright...

MICHELLE OBAMA: You know what I think Meredith? I think we gotta move forward. You know, this conversation doesn’t help my kids. You know, it doesn’t help kids out there who are looking for us to make decisions and choices about how we’re going to better fund education."

[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

135 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:48:02pm

re: #125 pat "Which is why Rev Wright is fleeing to the 93% White, Burbs, to live in a 10,000 sq ft mansion in a GATED COMMUNITY."
There, fixed that for ya!

136 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:49:28pm

re: #133 average_guy
ROTFLMAO! Please go see my #130!

137 pat  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:50:04pm

LOL. Nite all. KB, thanks for the ding. Off to my Osso Bucco. dinner time here. heh, heh.

138 Slumbering Behemoth  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:50:13pm

OT: Perception is everything.

/Or: what you think you see is not always what you get.

139 gop_patriot  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:50:33pm

re: #134 Whale watcher

Here ya go, snookums.

Why so snarky? BB just misunderstood your post, possibly because you didn't include the sarc tag, which folks use so their comments aren't taken as sincere. A simple correction, kindly stated, would have sufficed.

140 pat  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:50:58pm

RW, think I left a post for you on the last thread. Of little import tho.

141 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:52:30pm

re: #140 pat Ah, well then I shall go see - no comment from you is of too
little import!

142 average_guy  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:52:47pm

re: #136 realwest

ROTFLMAO! Please go see my #130!


Well, I knew Cleveland , Ohio is in Cuyahoga County since about 7th grade and that's how I knew there was no Mingo County in Ohio, but the paranormal stuff I'm trying to Google right now.

Carry on.

Good night!

143 gop_patriot  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:55:07pm

re: #129 Merovign


The really creepy part is how he sails past each major disaster - press corps complicity is worth how many poll percentage points?

It's disgusting, isn't it. I talk with people every day, most of whom are conservative, and they know NOTHING about most of the things on Charles' list up top. I'm going to print out some flyers and keep them in my purse, and hand them out when the subject of Obama comes up. It'll save my voice. Gah.

144 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:55:26pm

re: #140 pat Hey Pat - just saw your post and it was not of "little import"!
No comment which supports something I say out here is of little import!
LOL!

145 Whale Watcher  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:56:47pm

re: #139 gop_patriot

Why so snarky? BB just misunderstood your post, possibly because you didn't include the sarc tag, which folks use so their comments aren't taken as sincere. A simple correction, kindly stated, would have sufficed.

So sorry, but I'm only kind to kind people.

(That wasn't sarcasm.)

146 DesertSage  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:57:09pm

I support almost everything realwest says.

Whether it's paranormal or not.

147 FQ Kafir  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:58:55pm

Sure, we know a little about Obama's Grandmother; according to many sources, she's a "typical white person".... BUT....

What about Obama's cousin Raila Odinga, and Obama's brother Abongo Obama?

148 tokyobk  Tue, May 13, 2008 10:59:36pm

I don`t think I like Obama enough (at least his politics) enough to defend him.

I do not think however he has more skeletons.

Like all politicians he has made expedient friends over the course of his grooming.

He is far more "two rational equal sides" on the Israel issue for my tastes but he is not Jimmy Carter.

I think Charles is very rational person and a champion of the rational in fact. But I think Obama sends him ever so slightly off his rationality.

149 Maximu§  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:00:17pm

re: #134 Whale watcher

Whale watcher eh?

Perhaps Ive seen you at my local mall...there are some real whales there and you can see them surface at the foodcourt.

150 abolitionist  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:01:47pm

re: #52 Scarab

......Check this out!

[Link: www.debbieschlussel.com...]

Why isn't this getting any attention?

Scarab

There was a thread on that Jan 30: Obama Still Linked to NOI?

151 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:02:33pm

re: #146 DesertSage
HEY Sage! Whaddya mean "almost"?! LOL!
How are ya doing tonight my friend - I'm about to absolutely CRASH!

152 gop_patriot  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:02:55pm

re: #145 Whale Watcher

So sorry, but I'm only kind to kind people.

(That wasn't sarcasm.)

Alrighty then.

153 gop_patriot  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:04:18pm

re: #146 DesertSage

I support almost everything realwest says.

Whether it's paranormal or not.

LOL! Hi, Sage, how are you?

And (((realwest))) how are you feeling?

154 Opilio  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:05:19pm

re: #130 realwest

Hey, thanks for carrying that over to this thread for me from the last thread!

And I'm afraid it's my eyesight, not the modest change in color that's to blame for that! If Obama took Cleveland by only 7% that's truly remarkable for Clinton. It really is - someone out here (a long time ago) published a map of New York (where Hillary won by something like 20% of the vote, but if you looked at certain locations, such as Harlem, she was truly routed by Obama there!
BTW, y'all ought to link that map over here for folks to see!

No problem, RW.

I haven't looked at the NY data, but in the 4 states in my map, Obama's margin of victory only hit 30% twice: 34% in Marion County, IN (Indianapolis), and 30% in Philadelphia County, PA.

155 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:05:42pm

re: #153 gop_patriot
Hey, I'm feeling ok, thanks, but I'm really exhausted - it's after 2:00AM where I am and I gotta get some sleep!

156 LEGION  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:07:30pm

Wow- it's really coming clear that he is a soft spoken devil. I'm seeing horns a tail and him holding a trident. And the Nazi MSM is not reporting this, they had to be dragged kicking and screaming to cover Wright. My local paper did not print word one on him until an editorial scolded them but every Republican gets slammed for any minor infraction. I call them the new Soviet Pravda paper. It really is scary!

157 Mr. Beamish  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:08:23pm

Obama never wears a flag pin because he's afraid Bill Ayers will set him on fire.

158 LEGION  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:08:38pm

Check that- it was a letter to the editor- not an editorial- which I'm still surprised they printed.

159 Whale Watcher  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:08:43pm

re: #149 Maximu§

Whale watcher eh?

Perhaps Ive seen you at my local mall...there are some real whales there and you can see them surface at the foodcourt.

Ummm, I don't go to malls so I wouldn't know what goes on in the foodcourt but the fact that you know where the fat chicks hang out tells me exactly how you spend your free time.

To each his own.

Just don't let her get on top, okay?

160 DesertSage  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:09:09pm

re: #148 tokyobk

I think Charles is very rational person and a champion of the rational in fact. But I think Obama sends him ever so slightly off his rationality.

Charles is 'rationally' doing the work that the MSM will not do. If you don't read these things about Obama here, you may never be exposed to them anywhere between now and November.

There is nothing irrational about digging into the past (and present) of a person who just might become the most powerful man in the world.
For Charles to not do it would be a great disservice to this country. Which is exactly what the Mainstream Media is doing....a disservice to the nation.

161 tokyobk  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:09:17pm

Everybody relax. Obama is not the devil. He is just a lower-case "l" liberal which makes him scary enough,

162 DesertSage  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:11:37pm

re: #151 realwest

re: #153 gop_patriot

Well you two, I'm dong fine. I'm a little concerned that RW may not be getting enough rest though.

163 tokyobk  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:11:41pm

re: #160 DesertSage

I completely agree that the fantastic thing about LGF-- the perfect use of the internet, is that very service Charles has performed of challenging and correcting the mainstream media which, in this case, is madly in love with Obama.

However, I do stand by my statement that there is some irrationality to the anti-Obama things here

164 gop_patriot  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:12:17pm

re: #155 realwest

Well, you're in my prayers. :) Sleep well!

165 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:15:54pm
166 Slumbering Behemoth  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:16:17pm

re: #161 tokyobk

Everybody relax. Obama is not the devil. He is just a lower-case "l" liberal which makes him scary enough,

I'm with ya on the "Obama is not the devil/anti-christ angle, but I think he's much more dangerous than a simple lower-case "l" liberal.

167 redc1c4  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:21:12pm

re: #163 tokyobk

I completely agree that the fantastic thing about LGF-- the perfect use of the internet, is that very service Charles has performed of challenging and correcting the mainstream media which, in this case, is madly in love with Obama.

However, I do stand by my statement that there is some irrationality to the anti-Obama things here

i don't think there's anything irrational about my belief that Obama is a deceitful, untrustworthy lying scum bag who doesn't have the best interests of America or it's people in mind when he makes a decision.

YMMV.

168 Racer X  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:21:20pm

Yeah, Obama is not that bad.

We must be trippin'

169 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:21:42pm

re: #161 tokyobk "He is just a lower-case "l" liberal...." IF you really believe that, then you just have not been keeping up with the true news. Jeremiah Wright is the "true news" - GODDAMN AMERICA; Billy-boy Ayers is the "true news" BLOW UP AMERICA; Tony Renzko STEAL FROM AMERICA and of course the dear Michelle Obama who's ASHAMED TO BE FROM AMERICA and on and on and on - there is nothing "liberal" about NOT LIKING NOR EVEN RESPECTING the nation of which you would be POTUS - not to mention being the Leader of the Free World.
You are most assuredly allowed your opinion that Charles is off his rationality (?) about Obama, your opinion is of little consequence as you are obviously uniformed on both the issues and the two Men of whom you speak.
I personally feel that Charles has been remarkably restrained where Obama is concerned - but he is SPOT ON Obama's feelings and beliefs and associates. And if Obama actually had any tangible plans to deal with the GWoT, the Economy, the apparently more enormous divide between the races in this country that I thought existed, then perhaps Charles could review those and opine on them.
All Charles (and I) have to go on is what Obama says, how Obama says it (always important with Obama) and who Obama voluntarily chooses to associate with and befriend - individually and as nations.
Change is not an idea for a program, much less a well thought out series of ideas or plans to deal with America and her allies and enemies in the world.

170 bosforus  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:23:32pm

re: #169 realwest

racist
/

171 realwest  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:24:03pm

And now I am out of here - I'm so tired I can't stay up any more.

Good night all y'all and I hope I have the chance to see you down the road.

172 Dustyvet  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:24:33pm

Sounds like Mr. Obama has some baggage. After reading Charles list, I'd say it's not baggage, it looks more like a whole lot of freight!

173 bosforus  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:24:44pm

g'night realwest!
i'm off to bed as well. can't force my eyes open forever.

174 tokyobk  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:25:08pm

re: #165 buzzsawmonkey

I think Charles and LGF are stronger as an antidote to the crazyness we see in our crazy times.

I happen to like Obama as a person, he is by all accounts smart, funny, he obviously has organizational and team leadership skills at a genius level. Like many whites and most blacks I also feel intensely drawn to him as a potential Joshua type figue who can represent a post-civil rights America because the last thing we need is to doing all the race BS into the 21st century. This is exactly why a Wright would try to sabatoge Obama. When he wins, how are the Wrights of the world going to complain about evil, racist America.

All that said, the Clintons must be pissed that the media they used to play like the moped-like girl who they "enjoyed riding as long as their friends did not see," no has a new beau. And that irrational love of the press for all things Obama is annoying even for one who as I have said finds him appealing.

175 Slumbering Behemoth  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:25:36pm

re: #138 Slumbering Behemoth

In a similar vein.

176 DesertSage  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:25:44pm

re: #163 tokyobk

However, I do stand by my statement that there is some irrationality to the anti-Obama things here

Next year, after Obama is sworn in, it will be too late.
The Leftists/Fascists that surround him will have control of this country by then. George Soros will have the re-education camps all set up for those of us who will not conform. Criminals will be let out of prisons to make room for the political prisoners that will convicted in the kangaroo courts after the 'uniformity crackdown' laws take effect.
When the political correctness laws are enacted, our freedoms and liberties will be abolished in the name of 'National Unity'. There will be nowhere o hide for people who don't conform.

And then you will wish that Charles had done more to stop this Obamanation before the election!

177 EE  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:25:54pm

The Obama campaign focuses on a fear that there won't be any change. Obama stirs up a fear of no change, a sort of stasis-phobia. With this dread fear of no-change that Obama creates, he then presents himself as the candidate of unspecified change. This sort of hucksterism was used by the Nazis, with their slogan:
Alles mus anders zein!
(Everything must change!).

Obama remains a charlatan, a huckster of unspecified change.

We know very little about what sort of "change" Obama has in mind, whether it would be a constructive change or a destructive change. For all we know the change that he would bring could be a nightmare -- or it could be a gridlock that he will simply blame on the Republicans. He has never reached across the aisle on any significant issue. When the Gang of 14 got together, Obama was nowhere in sight. His votes have been the most extreme left-wing of any candidate.

His background is Marxist.

His associations have been very questionable, including Wright, Rezko, and Ayers, and the others that Charles mentioned at the head of this thread.

This is a person who is known to any non-gullible person as a tremendous liar, from the Pastorgate coverup, in all of the changing stories that Obama has told.

His approach to foreign affairs is to try to appease enemies. Terrorists are in favor of his candidacy (e.g. Hamas), because he appears to be an advocate of a wimpish approach to conflict. If he becomes the Great Wimp President, that will not bring peace; it will bring challenges by enemies, and eventually a difficult war. See the history of the efforts to appease Adolf Hitler at Munich.

178 gop_patriot  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:26:05pm

re: #157 Mr. Beamish

Obama never wears a flag pin because he's afraid Bill Ayers will set him on fire.

Is it wrong that I laughed at that? :X

179 Killian Bundy  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:28:33pm

The whole racism issue is a Bonkey smokescreen.

/look past it into the massive socialism proposed, don't fall for the political misdirection

180 gop_patriot  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:29:19pm

re: #176 DesertSage

And then you will wish that Charles had done more to stop this Obamanation before the election!

No, somehow I don't think he/she will:

re: #174 tokyobk

I happen to like Obama as a person, he is by all accounts smart, funny, he obviously has organizational and team leadership skills at a genius level. Like many whites and most blacks I also feel intensely drawn to him as a potential Joshua type figue who can represent a post-civil rights America because the last thing we need is to doing all the race BS into the 21st century. This is exactly why a Wright would try to sabatoge Obama. When he wins, how are the Wrights of the world going to complain about evil, racist America.

181 Racer X  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:31:12pm

re: #174 tokyobk

Do you need a Kleenex now?

/wipe up?

182 EE  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:31:43pm

Besides being associated with terrorists, bigots, and haters, and besides having a Marxist background, and besides being a charlatan huckster of unspecified change, and a great liar involving his Pastorgate coverup, what actually have been Obama's accomplishments? Nothing of any consequence. He is wet behind the ears, and seeks the most powerful position in America, and in the world, and perhaps in all history. Why on earth should he be given that position?

183 tokyobk  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:32:13pm

re: #176 DesertSage

I hope you are wrong as I love America as much as any one and am annoyed by the whacko left as much as any LGFer.

I saw the statement that Obama has the "most" skeletons as being slightly over the top and I think the general LGF opinion is corrective of media love affair insanity but in that service slightly off base itself.


Obama collected the same bunch of whackos you will meet at any democratic gathering or if you have spent any time in the academy.

I actually believe he would lead from center, though he is a little kid playing under the foreign affairs table at which McCain is an adult.

184 laZardo  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:32:28pm

re: #180 gop_patriot

When "race BS" becomes the Truth, what will the new BS be?

185 Slumbering Behemoth  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:33:29pm

re: #174 tokyobk

Funny, no. Sophomoric, yes.

Yeah, like he didn't know what that was about. Politicians are schooled on body language and public speaking. Why do you think every single one of them point with their thumbs rather than their index fingers.

186 Killian Bundy  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:33:34pm

re: #174 tokyobk

I happen to like Obama as a person, he is by all accounts smart, funny, he obviously has organizational and team leadership skills at a genius level..

Of a long festering Chicago fraudulent/socialist Machine.

/have you ever been to Chicago for more than a visit?

187 Natasha  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:35:29pm
This is exactly why a Wright would try to sabatoge Obama. When he wins, how are the Wrights of the world going to complain about evil, racist America.

Hello? Wright is (or was) Obama's spiritual adviser...But, even ignoring that, in typical leftardian fashion.... It is pretty pathetic if a country as great as America will base its choice of president on something as stupid as the shade of his makeup.

188 tokyobk  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:36:05pm

re: #180 gop_patriot

Obama is a genius and an intensly charismatic figure. I would get over that as qickly as possible especially if you oppose him. My point is that he has that effect on even me, someone who finds many of his ideas and expecially those of the crowd he has associated with to be repugnant.

189 Maximu§  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:36:27pm

re: #159 Whale Watcher

Ummm, I don't go to malls so I wouldn't know what goes on in the foodcourt but the fact that you know where the fat chicks hang out tells me exactly how you spend your free time.

To each his own.

Just don't let her get on top, okay?

Never did fat chick, but the Whales at the mall certainly qualify to be called Cetaceans and they are far more dangerous than their ocean going cousins.

You seem like an OK Joe, so heres some rules for whale watching at the Mall

-Do not approach closer than 50m to any Mall Whale at the food court.

-Do not box the Mall Whales in, cut off their path from the Panda Express or prevent them from leaving. Regular sized folk should place themselves adjacent to each other to ensure the cetaceans have large open avenues to leave the Food Court.

-If the mall whale shows disturbance activities, withdraw immediately at a constant slow speed to the outside of the caution zone.

-Exercise extreme caution when observing groups of Mall Whales containing calves. Should you mistakenly approach such a pod, back-the f**k-off immediately at a constant slow speed to the outside of the caution zone.

s/ ok, ok I'm just joking here...

190 Killian Bundy  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:37:00pm

re: #186 Killian Bundy

have you ever been to Chicago for more than a visit?

Toss a donut on a sidewalk in downtown Chicago.

/report back what happens in the next 30 seconds

191 DesertSage  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:37:04pm

re: #180 gop_patriot

No, somehow I don't think he/she will

tokyobk Has fallen under Obama's hypnotic spell.

I too kinda liked the guy, until his speech after the NC primary. That speech was a wake up call for me, I saw the real Obama.
When the man implied that I was being divisive if I didn't agree with him and all of his Lefty sycophants, I knew for sure that he ad no intention of unifying this country. His idea of unifying is that we all must think like Lefties. If we don't, then we're being divisive.

No thanks. That doesn't fly in my book!

192 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:37:20pm
193 LeePro  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:37:32pm

re: #145 Whale Watcher

So sorry, but I'm only kind to kind people.

(That wasn't sarcasm.)

Oo-o-o-o-o
That says a whole lot about you!

So if we all follow your philosophy, we would NOT feel terribly obligated to be kind to you!

194 EE  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:39:53pm

Obama has no experience whatsoever being in the center, politically. His experience has been to operate from the fringe. In his case, his background is Marxist, and his record of voting in the Senate is rated as the most left-wing of all Senators. He has never tried to reach across the aisle on any matter of significance.

Why would any gullible person think that with this pattern of extremism, he would lead from the center? He went after the Dem nomination by pandering to the nut-roots, the most extreme left of the party.

He is also out of touch with the values of ordinary Americans. His comments about bitter small-town people clinging to guns and arms, because they don't know their true Marxist-theory interests, show that he is out of touch. His comfort level in staying for 20 years in a church run by Jeremiah Wright, a raving racist anti-American preacher, and even bringing his children to be raised in that bigotry and hatred spewed by Wright, shows how out of touch he has been with mainstream America.

195 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:40:14pm
196 redc1c4  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:40:46pm

re: #183 tokyobk

I hope you are wrong as I love America as much as any one and am annoyed by the whacko left as much as any LGFer.

I saw the statement that Obama has the "most" skeletons as being slightly over the top and I think the general LGF opinion is corrective of media love affair insanity but in that service slightly off base itself.


Obama collected the same bunch of whackos you will meet at any democratic gathering or if you have spent any time in the academy.

I actually believe he would lead from center, though he is a little kid playing under the foreign affairs table at which McCain is an adult.

the only way he'd "lead from the center" would be if he suddenly developed some sort of leadership skills AND you redefined "center" as "far left".......

197 Slumbering Behemoth  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:40:51pm

#193 LeePro 5/13/08 11:37:32 pm reply quote report

Hey there LeePro, how are things?

/you know why :)

198 Natasha  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:41:48pm
Obama is a genius and an intensly charismatic figure.

Yeah, yeah... So was Vladimir Lenin, supposedly, according to some of the Russians... You know what that brought them...

Would everyone please wake up? We do not need a president who will give us more and more things! We need a president who will make the government leave us the heck alone and actually return to its very limited real job of protecting our individual rights.

199 gop_patriot  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:42:06pm

re: #188 tokyobk

Obama is a genius and an intensly charismatic figure. I would get over that as qickly as possible especially if you oppose him. My point is that he has that effect on even me, someone who finds many of his ideas and expecially those of the crowd he has associated with to be repugnant.

Sorry, I don't agree that he is a genius. Charismatic, sure. But all the charisma in the world won't draw you to a person if they embody the polar opposite of everything you believe in. When I watch Obama working a crowd, instead of being enthralled and getting swept up in the moment, I get a sick feeling in my stomach and am appalled that this guy has come this far in the Presidential race. I've said it before, he's a vapid, empty suit who talks for days and says nothing. Stupid, absolutely not. Genius? Hardly. Salesman, yep.

200 LeePro  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:42:30pm

re: #159 Whale Watcher

Ummm, I don't go to malls so I wouldn't know what goes on in the foodcourt but the fact that you know where the fat chicks hang out tells me exactly how you spend your free time.

To each his own.

Just don't let her get on top, okay?

HEY LIZARDS!
Remember what Whale Watcher says: you only have to be kind to those who are kind!

201 redc1c4  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:43:32pm

anyone else smell something funny?

202 tokyobk  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:43:38pm

re: #192 buzzsawmonkey

I do not see Obama as any less fraudulent as any other democrat and much better than most. Ditto that for most politicains, McCain (who is anyway a nut) excepted. Obama is the real JFK-- and one who if he cheats on his wife does it quietly, and no I am not pleasuring myself to his picture at this moment just stating what I think is a fact

Wright did raise Obama just as you say and the race politics that Obama had to play into to get his authenticity stamp make me sick.
Wright did also turn on Obama as he saw his prodigy moving into a higher sphere.

203 Athos  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:45:14pm

re: #195 buzzsawmonkey

I would disagree with you about re-education camps and similar draconian measures. There is no need for these things when a society has become thoroughly corrupted to the point where it believes that PC conformity is right and necessary.

I think you are close to being correct. Today's education camps (public school system and much of college level academia) are pressing and forcing the politically correct progressive mindset on the students today. At the college level - progressives outnumber conservatives in academia probably 8 or 9 to 1. Add to this the influence of the MSM and then the 'new' news sources (Jon Stewart, etc.) and you have a good picture of the dumbing and numbing of America.

204 gop_patriot  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:45:15pm

re: #193 LeePro

Howdy, Lee! :)

205 wolfie  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:45:15pm

re: #174 tokyobk

You talk about Wright "sabotaging" Obama. No. Obama did it all by himself. He didn't have to spend 20 years as a member of that church, donate big money to it, and take his kids there. Obama knew exactly what Wright was preaching and still accepted it completely.
As far as I am concerned, Black Liberation Theology is no different from the Aryan "Christian" Identity garbage and Wright is no better than David Duke.

Obama is bright and affable, but with a Marxist, anti-American mother and with a father who abandoned him, he was dealt a bad hand. I can sympathize with whatever feelings of alienation he might have had. I just can't condone the way he chose whining and cheap tribalism as a "solution."
I feel sorry for him.

206 Racer X  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:45:32pm

re: #201 redc1c4

anyone else smell something funny?

Sorry.

/popcorn and beer

207 redc1c4  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:45:33pm

re: #188 tokyobk

Obama is a genius and an intensly charismatic figure. I would get over that as qickly as possible especially if you oppose him. My point is that he has that effect on even me, someone who finds many of his ideas and expecially those of the crowd he has associated with to be repugnant.

sounds like you're the one who has something to "get over that as qickly as possible".............

208 Killian Bundy  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:45:49pm

re: #201 redc1c4

anyone else smell something funny?

tokyobk is cool.

/boom boom LGF long time

209 hhc 2-2 scr  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:46:24pm

re: #183 tokyobk

I hope you are wrong as I love America as much as any one and am annoyed by the whacko left as much as any LGFer.

I saw the statement that Obama has the "most" skeletons as being slightly over the top and I think the general LGF opinion is corrective of media love affair insanity but in that service slightly off base itself.


Obama collected the same bunch of whackos you will meet at any democratic gathering or if you have spent any time in the academy.

I actually believe he would lead from center, though he is a little kid playing under the foreign affairs table at which McCain is an adult.

What makes you believe he will lead from center?
I don't want to rehear his pretty speeches, I want actual proof that he can and will lead from center.

210 DesertSage  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:46:56pm

re: #195 buzzsawmonkey

I would disagree with you about re-education camps and similar draconian measures. There is no need for these things when a society has become thoroughly corrupted to the point where it believes that PC conformity is right and necessary.

There will always be holdouts who refuse to go along with their socialist program, you and I being amongst them.
What are they going to do with us? Especially when we start causing trouble?

You now how vicious Lefty can be.

211 Racer X  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:47:13pm

re: #202 tokyobk

Obama is the real JFK-- and one who if he cheats on his wife does it quietly, and no I am not pleasuring myself to his picture at this moment just stating what I think is a fact


Ha!

I knew it!

212 redc1c4  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:47:15pm

re: #206 Racer X

Sorry.

/popcorn and beer

naw.... i was thinking more like the underside of a Japanese bridge. %-)

213 Athos  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:48:17pm

re: #202 tokyobk

I do not see Obama as any less fraudulent as any other democrat and much better than most.

I'm curious as to the specific aspects where he is 'much better than most' when it comes to Democrats. What are they?

Follow-up question - Which Democrats?

214 Slumbering Behemoth  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:48:21pm

re: #202 tokyobk

You've given us an idea on how you feel about Obama, care to tell us how you feel about McCain, aside from the fact that you think he's a nut?

215 Natasha  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:49:06pm

Ok... Flame me all you want after this question (I come from barbarian Russia after all), but why is there such a worshipful air about JFK? Also, why is comparing Obama to JFK should all of a sudden stop anyone's doubts about the guy's eligibility for presidency?

216 redc1c4  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:49:16pm

re: #208 Killian Bundy

tokyobk is cool.

/boom boom LGF long time

if you say so, but then it seems like one of those booms shook something loose upstairs......

217 Ma Sands  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:50:31pm

re: #190 Killian Bundy

Rats?

Bigger than you've seen ever before?

218 redc1c4  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:50:32pm

re: #215 Natasha

Ok... Flame me all you want after this question (I come from barbarian Russia after all), but why is there such a worshipful air about JFK? Also, why is comparing Obama to JFK should all of a sudden stop anyone's doubts about the guy's eligibility for presidency?

because some people still believe all the "Camelot" hype around him and because he got capped, so he's a martyr.

219 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:51:04pm
220 redc1c4  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:51:27pm

re: #210 DesertSage

There will always be holdouts who refuse to go along with their socialist program, you and I being amongst them.
What are they going to do with us? Especially when we start causing trouble?

You now how vicious Lefty can be.

Lefty better hope he's bullet proof. %-)

221 Natasha  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:51:29pm

# 216 redc1c4:

if you say so, but then it seems like one of those booms shook something loose upstairs......


Boom-boom long time can cause one to contract syphilis.... Which can, in its very late stages, cause substantial brain damage...

222 DesertSage  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:53:01pm

re: #219 buzzsawmonkey

There will be a revolt I tell you!

223 Natasha  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:53:51pm

redc1c4:

because some people still believe all the "Camelot" hype around him and because he got capped, so he's a martyr.

So, basically, they are deluded and full of shit on that count.

224 LeePro  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:53:53pm

re: #176 DesertSage

Next year, after Obama is sworn in, it will be too late.
The Leftists/Fascists that surround him will have control of this country by then. George Soros will have the re-education camps all set up for those of us who will not conform. Criminals will be let out of prisons to make room for the political prisoners that will convicted in the kangaroo courts after the 'uniformity crackdown' laws take effect.
When the political correctness laws are enacted, our freedoms and liberties will be abolished in the name of 'National Unity'. There will be nowhere o hide for people who don't conform.

And then you will wish that Charles had done more to stop this Obamanation before the election!

Sage,
I just up-dinged you and "marked your words" (as in mark my words), so that I can go back and point to them when the likes of tokyobk begin to cry and whine next year!

225 Athos  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:53:57pm

re: #215 Natasha

Ok... Flame me all you want after this question (I come from barbarian Russia after all), but why is there such a worshipful air about JFK? Also, why is comparing Obama to JFK should all of a sudden stop anyone's doubts about the guy's eligibility for presidency?

Well, I would be the wrong one to answer this question, because with the exception of the significant tax cuts that JFK put into place, he was one of the less capable and competent Presidents of the 20th century.

I think the MSM / Progressives put the full court press on his PR just to have a 'winner' President in the years between 1952 and 2000. If JFK would run today, on the same policies, he would be as ill-treated in the Democrat Party as Joe Lieberman.

226 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:54:16pm
227 Natasha  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:55:41pm

#222 Desert Sage:

There will be a revolt I tell you!

Well, then, consider me one revolting B30TCH

228 laZardo  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:55:46pm

re: #210 DesertSage

I shall probably be tied to a desk like a dog, forced to conceive of nice, safe and friendly eco-transport modules whose carbon footprint will determine how much food I receive for the day.

229 tokyobk  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:56:28pm

re: #214 Slumbering Behemoth

McCain is from his school days a complete maverick with authority issues (daddy and grandaddy issues) yet who is the only person in the entire field this cycle who has true presidential qualities.

He is an adult realist when it comes to the world and the Islamist terror facing us and our children. Weak on immigration stuff, surprisingly.

He is married to a space alien. I am not saying I would not marry her and learn to program her to appear nomal but "chica `sta loca."

I like him and probably will vote for him but his need to do things his way could be a problem.

230 gop_patriot  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:56:34pm

re: #221 Natasha

LOL!

231 LeePro  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:56:48pm

re: #187 Natasha

Hello? Wright is (or was) Obama's spiritual adviser...But, even ignoring that, in typical leftardian fashion.... It is pretty pathetic if a country as great as America will base its choice of president on something as stupid as the shade of his makeup.

Who are you quoting, Natasha? Please use the "quote" button so that we don't have to try to locate your reference!

232 Killian Bundy  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:57:00pm

re: #216 redc1c4

if you say so, but then it seems like one of those booms shook something loose upstairs......

Barring intervention,LGF is a free fire zone.

/just sayin', s/he doesn't live in the U.S, as far as I know.

/be sure and pay close attention through the election, because the results will affect you, one way or another

233 DesertSage  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:57:20pm

re: #224 LeePro

Thank you Lee, you are my inspiration you know?
:')

234 LeePro  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:58:16pm

re: #197 Slumbering Behemoth

#193 LeePro 5/13/08 11:37:32 pm reply quote report

Hey there LeePro, how are things?

/you know why :)

Oh, fair to middlin'.

Yourself?

235 Athos  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:58:46pm

re: #232 Killian Bundy

/be sure and pay close attention through the election, because the results will affect you, one way or another

Good point. Change doesn't always happen for the better.

236 redc1c4  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:58:52pm

re: #223 Natasha

redc1c4:


So, basically, they are deluded and full of shit on that count.

that's certainly a good w*rking hypothesis...... %-)

"JFK" is just another MSM meme that they trot out to keep the zeks from having to think.

237 Killian Bundy  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:59:11pm

re: #217 Ma Sands

Rats?

Bigger than you've seen ever before?

/very close, think 30 seconds in broad daylight and, yes, it's a public safety hazard

238 LeePro  Tue, May 13, 2008 11:59:47pm

re: #201 redc1c4

anyone else smell something funny?

Yeah... x2, methinks!

239 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:00:58am

re: #215 Natasha

...but why is there such a worshipful air about JFK?

I'm not entirely sure, but I think for many democrats and liberals he represents some kind of shining prince from a mythological golden era.


Also, why is comparing Obama to JFK should all of a sudden stop anyone's doubts about the guy's eligibility for presidency?

Again, I can not be entirely certain, but I believe people make this comparison for the purpose of regaining the sanctity and purity of this by-gone golden era. A call-back to the good old days, if you will.

Of course this is just speculation on my part, but it must be noted that one of the cornerstones of fascism is the call to return to the so-called "good old days", a revival of a golden age which may or may not have existed.

240 LeePro  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:01:38am

re: #204 gop_patriot

Howdy, Lee! :)

Hey, {gop}!

241 tokyobk  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:02:23am

re: #216 redc1c4

re: #208 Killian Bundy

tokyobk is cool.

/boom boom LGF long time

if you say so, but then it seems like one of those booms shook something loose upstairs......


Ha Ha, thank`s Killian.
I don`t think I am a troll (I don`t even eat goat) and I am almost certainly not an Obama voter unless he pulls a fast one and whacks all his liberal buddies in the main election (which would be just like a politician wouldn`t it).

242 redc1c4  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:04:14am

re: #237 Killian Bundy

/very close, think 30 seconds in broad daylight and, yes, it's a public safety hazard

flying cockroaches?

243 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:04:28am
244 Natasha  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:05:14am

LeePro, apologies for the lack of quote...
This is what bothered me:

This is exactly why a Wright would try to sabatoge Obama. When he wins, how are the Wrights of the world going to complain about evil, racist America.

So, basically, by that "logic", if Obama did not win, America would be considered "racist"...
That is what I was objecting to.

245 gop_patriot  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:06:23am

re: #241 tokyobk

I don`t think I am a troll

Are you? Aren't you? Figure it out, quit waffling! LOL ;)

246 Kailen  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:06:44am
I have never witnessed a presidential election in which a major candidate had this many skeletons in his closet.

I can think of three.

1992
1996
2008

Clinton, Clinton, and Mrs. Clinton.

247 Ma Sands  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:06:46am

re: #237 Killian Bundy

Well, my son-the-high-school-teacher did see those rats, on a trip with his students to the poorer area there a couple of years ago.....

But, I think you are meaning homeless people..........though they may act like the animals, it makes me sad to have them compared to such.....

248 DesertSage  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:07:23am

re: #241 tokyobk

tokyobk, you have to break free of this spell that Obama has over you. He's not a good guy.

He says that he wants unity. But his unity is that everyone should think like him and his Leftist followers. If you don't, then you're being divisive. If that's not enough to scare the shit out of you then I don't know what is.

Mind control....don't let it happen to you!

249 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:07:58am

re: #229 tokyobk

Fair enough, I suppose. But I don't think Cindy is a space alien. Despite the age difference, I find her to be kind of hot.

Admittedly, this attraction of mine could be all about her business.
/

250 Killian Bundy  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:09:55am

re: #242 redc1c4

flying cockroaches?

/clear the deck!

251 gop_patriot  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:11:07am

re: #240 LeePro

Hey, {gop}!

We're about to get schlammered here with some "weather". :p Don't know if it's heading as far east as you... just what we need, more rain!

252 LeePro  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:11:23am

re: #233 DesertSage

Thank you Lee, you are my inspiration you know?
:')

Ohhhhhhhh, Sage! You are so full of bu.........

Why, thank you!
;D

253 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:11:29am

re: #234 LeePro

Good.

And P.S., I served you a total softball with my #197. I was expecting a *thwack*, what gives?
/tee hee

254 gop_patriot  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:11:43am

re: #252 LeePro

Ohhhhhhhh, Sage! You are so full of bu.........

Why, thank you!
;D

ROFLOL!

255 Killian Bundy  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:13:06am

re: #247 Ma Sands

Well, my son-the-high-school-teacher did see those rats, on a trip with his students to the poorer area there a couple of years ago.....

But, I think you are meaning homeless people..........though they may act like the animals, it makes me sad to have them compared to such.....

No, I'm talking about downtown Chicago, and tossing a donut on the pavement.

/if you've been there, you'd, know what happens next

256 wolfie  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:13:43am

re: #248 DesertSage

tokyobk, you have to break free of this spell that Obama has over you. He's not a good guy.

He says that he wants unity. But his unity is that everyone should think like him and his Leftist followers. If you don't, then you're being divisive. If that's not enough to scare the shit out of you then I don't know what is.

Mind control....don't let it happen to you!

The Left wants us to shut up. They want only one point of view to be heard.
They may call this UNITY. Or they may call it DIVERSITY. When they call it diversity, what they mean is that they don't care about your heritage or your race............as long as you agree with them.

257 Natasha  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:13:48am

buzzsawmonkey:

But...he was young, handsome, rich, with a glamorous wife and cute kids, and cut down in his prime. He is an ICON, wholly independent of anything he actually did.

I think this "Icon" crap was the beginning of what is ultimately going to kill the United States of America as it was intended to be when it was founded. There are fewer and fewer individuals in this society who want a President who would do the job right and leave them alone... and ever more individuals who need some kind of "American Idol" to grovel at the feet of and to receive crumbs from his table.

258 Ma Sands  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:16:12am

re: #255 Killian Bundy

I give up. :) --I've not been there for 8 years, and that time I just drove through without getting out of my vehicle...

The time before that, 38 years ago, I think conditions might have been different than now.....? :)

259 LeePro  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:16:17am

re: #251 gop_patriot

We're about to get schlammered here with some "weather". :p Don't know if it's heading as far east as you... just what we need, more rain!

Yes, it's definitely headed this way. Will not be online much longer tonight!

260 wolfie  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:17:31am

re: #257 Natasha

Television has been a curse, in so far as politics and elections are concerned.
It's all a matter of images and sound bites, created and broadcast by a pack of power freaks.

261 redc1c4  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:18:37am

re: #251 gop_patriot

We're about to get schlammered here with some "weather". :p Don't know if it's heading as far east as you... just what we need, more rain!

looks like it's a good thing i got the up and running on the patio. %-)

262 redc1c4  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:19:04am

re: #255 Killian Bundy

No, I'm talking about downtown Chicago, and tossing a donut on the pavement.

/if you've been there, you'd, know what happens next

the cops beat you up for littering?

263 LeePro  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:19:57am

#253 Slumbering Behemoth 5/14/08 12:11:29 am reply quote report 0

re: #234 LeePro

Good.

And P.S., I served you a total softball with my #197. I was expecting a *thwack*, what gives?
/tee hee

Caught it.
I'm way smarter than you give me credit for!

nanner-nanner

264 redc1c4  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:20:30am

re: #261 redc1c4

looks like it's a good thing i got the up and running on the patio. %-)

265 Killian Bundy  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:20:38am

re: #258 Ma Sands

I give up. :) --I've not been there for 8 years, and that time I just drove through without getting out of my vehicle...

The time before that, 38 years ago, I think conditions might have been different than now.....? :)

The Birds

/next time you're downtown, go out of your way to buy at least one donut and toss it on the sidewalk

266 redc1c4  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:21:25am

re: #264 redc1c4

what it *really* looks like is that i'll never figure out HTML or the difference between the "preview" and the "post" buttons.....

/doooooph!

267 Ma Sands  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:22:57am

re: #265 Killian Bundy

Oh! Like in Mary Poppins? :)

268 Natasha  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:23:10am

Wolfie:

It's all a matter of images and sound bites, created and broadcast by a pack of power freaks.

Of course! But, some people (like yourself, or myself, or pretty much everyone present) see it for what it is. We are not just taking it all in hook, line, and sinker... At the same time, many others willfully violate and subjugate their minds in an effort not to think, and to just eat up the sound bites.

269 gop_patriot  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:23:39am

re: #259 LeePro

Yes, it's definitely headed this way. Will not be online much longer tonight!

We just got hit with it, it looked worse on radar than it really was, thankfully!

re: #261 redc1c4

looks like it's a good thing i got the up and running on the patio. %-)

Shut it, you. ;) Was that last part supposed to be a link? Weird...

/it's actually been gorgeous here for a few days, upper 70s and sunny... and I really don't mind the rain. Better than a drought!

270 gop_patriot  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:24:56am

re: #264 redc1c4

Got it now...
re: #266 redc1c4

what it *really* looks like is that i'll never figure out HTML or the difference between the "preview" and the "post" buttons.....

/doooooph!


LOL!

/it's all that scotch

271 Killian Bundy  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:25:51am

re: #262 redc1c4

the cops beat you up for littering?

The donuts were gone in less than ten seconds. At the time, we worked for true blood Sicilians headquartered on State street

/we did get moved along, as opposed to being arrested, for scalping Vikings/Bears tickets

272 redc1c4  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:26:22am

re: #269 gop_patriot

Shut it, you. ;) Was that last part supposed to be a link? Weird...

/it's actually been gorgeous here for a few days, upper 70s and sunny... and I really don't mind the rain. Better than a drought!

well, i meant to say it's a good thing i got the misting system up & running on the patio, with a link to Arizona Misting, for those who aren't hip on the subject............

i foresee boat drinks and splashing in the pool this weekend, in between honey do's, of course.

might smoke some piggy butt too, while i'm at it. %-)

273 LeePro  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:26:34am

re: #260 wolfie

OT

How'd your Indian music project go? Still in the works?

When you answer this, look first at the top of the comment-entry box and click the little box that says "Show email."

OR send me an email by clicking on my nic. Please?

274 redc1c4  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:26:54am

re: #270 gop_patriot

Got it now...
re: #266 redc1c4


LOL!

/it's all that scotch

or maybe not enough? %-)

275 Natasha  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:26:58am

I wish I had some "fun" weather here. Boring rain, as it is. If it is going to be too crappy to ride, can it at least be spectacularly crappy?

276 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:27:26am

re: #263 LeePro

I'm way smarter than you give me credit for!

Ha! And I'm nowhere as smart as you give me credit for. How smart can I be, fishin' for a thwack?

I see what you did there. +1 for getting the zero in there

277 Killian Bundy  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:28:25am

re: #267 Ma Sands

Exactly.

/birds on cue

278 Opilio  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:28:35am

re: #275 Natasha

I wish I had some "fun" weather here. Boring rain, as it is. If it is going to be too crappy to ride, can it at least be spectacularly crappy?

You want boring, move to Phoenix. Hasn't rained since February, probably won't until July.

279 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:29:45am
280 Natasha  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:30:52am

# 278 Opilio

If it is boring by means of being sunny, calm and warm, it is DA BOMB! That is exactly the weather I need.

281 wolfie  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:30:58am

re: #268 Natasha

Wolfie:


Of course! But, some people (like yourself, or myself, or pretty much everyone present) see it for what it is. We are not just taking it all in hook, line, and sinker... At the same time, many others willfully violate and subjugate their minds in an effort not to think, and to just eat up the sound bites.

The key word you used is willfully. A lot of times that's what it comes down to. Many people want to be led, many want to be fooled, many want to avoid unpleasant reality.

282 ShowMeStateOfMind  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:31:30am

If y'all didn't catch it already, you really must dig up a copy of Tuesday night's Daily Show on Comedy Central. Wanna talk about whitewashing? You must watch the Bill Moyers interview from this evening's episode. It was stunning the degree to which Mr. Moyers defended the Reverend Jeremiah Wright.

Truly stunning.

283 BlueCanuck  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:31:39am

Okay I am back. What did I miss? Did we find more bodies in the BHO graveyard?

/good morning { { {LeePro} } }

284 Natasha  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:31:50am

re: #279 buzzsawmonkey

Awesome! Thank you!

"I am only an egg"....

285 redc1c4  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:33:17am

re: #275 Natasha

I wish I had some "fun" weather here. Boring rain, as it is. If it is going to be too crappy to ride, can it at least be spectacularly crappy?

as you get older you will discover the joy in boring......

(or maybe not. %-)

286 redc1c4  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:34:43am

re: #283 BlueCanuck

Okay I am back. What did I miss? Did we find more bodies in the BHO graveyard?

/good morning { { {LeePro} } }

i can has bodies?

287 BlueCanuck  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:35:26am

re: #285 redc1c4

as you get older you will discover the joy in boring......

(or maybe not. %-)

I understand. My job is hours or days of sheer boredom punctuated by seconds of sheer panic.

/have I said lately that I hate my job?

288 gop_patriot  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:36:19am

re: #282 ShowMeStateOfMind

If y'all didn't catch it already, you really must dig up a copy of Tuesday night's Daily Show on Comedy Central. Wanna talk about whitewashing? You must watch the Bill Moyers interview from this evening's episode. It was stunning the degree to which Mr. Moyers defended the Reverend Jeremiah Wright.

Truly stunning.

Did someone from the show interview Bill Moyers?

289 Natasha  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:36:58am

Well, according to Eastern Time, it is (way past) bedtime. Good night everyone!

290 LeePro  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:37:27am

re: #283 BlueCanuck

Okay I am back. What did I miss? Did we find more bodies in the BHO graveyard?

/good morning { { {LeePro} } }

Mornin', { { {Blue} } }!

Hugs are good!

291 gop_patriot  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:38:04am

re: #289 Natasha

Well, according to Eastern Time, it is (way past) bedtime. Good night everyone!

Goodnight, sleep well!

292 redc1c4  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:39:46am

re: #287 BlueCanuck

I understand. My job is hours or days of sheer boredom punctuated by seconds of sheer panic.

/have I said lately that I hate my job?

i spent a few (6) years repoing cars in all the *best* parts of LA.....

i LOVE boring. %-)

293 redc1c4  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:40:23am

re: #290 LeePro

Mornin', { { {Blue} } }!

Hugs are good!

if you don't mind cooties n'such..... %-)

/white smoke

294 BlueCanuck  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:41:14am

re: #290 LeePro

Hugs are always good. :)

295 LeePro  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:41:57am

re: #293 redc1c4

if you don't mind cooties n'such..... %-)

/white smoke

Did you notice that I've never hugged YOU?

296 BlueCanuck  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:43:00am

re: #295 LeePro

Must be the alcohol fumes.

/careful with open flame around red.

//white smoke.

297 gop_patriot  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:44:00am

re: #288 gop_patriot

Did someone from the show interview Bill Moyers?

Well that was a stupid question. What I meant was, WHO from the show interviewed Bill Moyers? Was it that big guy, or ?

298 Killian Bundy  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:45:07am

Walk Away

/try not to struggle

299 Opilio  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:45:47am

In light of the Obamanation's stellar performance in W.Va. yesterday, I just had to take a quick peek over at dKoz to get a sense of the spin. And lo and behold, near the top of their "recommended" list is a post entitled: "Dear Keith Olbermann & Superdelegates: Hillary Failed in West Virginia".

And they call themselves a reality-based community

300 U.S.S. Nixon  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:47:53am

Crypt keeper. Plus his Anti-American man looking wife. Shes about to burst out of the closet.

301 Opilio  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:49:45am

re: #300 U.S.S. Nixon

Crypt keeper. Plus his Anti-American man looking wife. Shes about to burst out of the closet.

Was that a response to anything in particular - or just a spontaneous thought that had to be expressed?

302 redc1c4  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:50:19am

re: #295 LeePro

Did you notice that I've never hugged YOU?

that's why i have no cooties.....

Blue figures he's safe 'cause they'll die in the snow. %-)

303 Karridine  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:52:39am

Well, now that the conversation has sunk to such cootified depths risen to such exalted plateaus, I must hie me to a nunnery, guy that I am, to find none that have none to give...

/better left unsaid, I always say...

304 LeePro  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:53:31am

Bad sinuses, hay fever, sneezing (the whole Tylenol commercial thing) day/night/NOW...

Taking my last-night's-fruitcup (thanks, Blue), all my hugs and going upstairs to bed.
Goodnight {Blue, gop, wolfie, slumbering, and whoever-I-missed}!

...and one cootie-less g'nite to you, red.

305 BlueCanuck  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:54:07am

re: #303 Karridine

Why a nunnery? They don't sound like much fun to me.

306 BlueCanuck  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:54:38am

Night {LeePro} take care of yourself.

307 LeePro  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:55:09am

oops!

(the whole Tylenol Nyquil commercial thing)
308 Karridine  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:55:16am

re: #305 BlueCanuck

Maybe not, but NUN of them gots COOTIES!

/I mean, really, Blue...

309 Killian Bundy  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:55:41am

Hey, look here.

/nevermind reality

310 BlueCanuck  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:56:32am

re: #308 Karridine

Pffft, that whole cootie myth is a conspiracy instigated by guys with too much ego to lose. ;)

311 gop_patriot  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:57:49am

Y'all are killing me, cooties dying in the snow and nunneries, LOL! :)

Goodnight, Lee, sleep well! Talk to ya later!

312 gop_patriot  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:01:15am

re: #309 Killian Bundy

Hey, look here.

/nevermind reality

Wow, now there are a couple of songs you don't usually see posted together. LOL!

313 redc1c4  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:01:53am

re: #310 BlueCanuck

Pffft, that whole cootie myth is a conspiracy instigated by guys with too much ego to lose. ;)

actually, it's a truth denied by men desperate for affection. %-)

314 Slumbering Behemoth  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:02:10am

re: #307 LeePro

Heh. The night-time, sneezing, sniffling, coughing, stuffy head, how the hell did I end up on the garage floor medicine.

G'nite from me too, Lizards. Sleep well, large women, and all that.

315 redc1c4  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:02:49am

i just tied to read some articles at DailyKos..... talk about cooties.

/brain bleach por favor

316 BlueCanuck  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:03:23am

re: #313 redc1c4

So you calling me desperate now?

/dem's fighting words.
//Of course you realise this means war *bugs mode on*

317 BlueCanuck  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:04:25am

re: #315 redc1c4

My god man, you went there alone? My sympathies.

/you need more scotch, I prescribe a cask.

318 redc1c4  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:08:31am

re: #317 BlueCanuck

My god man, you went there alone? My sympathies.

/you need more scotch, I prescribe a cask.

as in a "cask of thousands"?......

change!

319 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:08:57am
320 wordwarp  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:10:05am

Yet another skeleton: Obama is only 6.25% black.

Yup, that's right. His father was 7/8ths Arab and 1/8th African. Thus the name.

Additional skeleton: dear old dad is descended from Arab slave traders who cooperated with the British to put down the Mahdi Army (which was Shia in those days, not Sunni).

Ah, I love trivia.

321 BlueCanuck  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:11:20am

re: #318 redc1c4

as in a "cask of thousands"?......

change!

DRINK

/can't keep this up much longer

322 redc1c4  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:14:28am

re: #321 BlueCanuck

DRINK

/can't keep this up much longer

don't worry: i'll cover for you.

(gimme your glass %-)

323 redc1c4  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:18:36am

yet another brilliant idea from Sacramento.....

324 gop_patriot  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:20:28am

re: #319 buzzsawmonkey


I have never heard that interpretation, but it makes sense! I always just thought (deep breath, hang on) that Hamlet abandoned Ophelia when he was feigning madness, which she took for real madness, which then drove her mad and on to suicide. But I never studied the etymology of Hamlet- Elizabethan customs and phrases, etc., so why would I know that "fishmonger" meant "pimp"?

Although, could Hamlet referring to Polonius as a fishmonger also mean that Polonius was just using Ophelia (to see if he was really crazy) by pushing her onto Hamlet? And not meant in a sexual way?
/sorry if that is a dumb question, it's after 3AM here and my brain is fried...

325 gop_patriot  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:23:58am

re: #323 redc1c4

yet another brilliant idea from Sacramento.....

"This will decimate the San Fernando Valley," Larry Kaplan, executive director of the California branch of the Association of Club Executives, a group representing adult entertainment clubs, told Reuters.

That's hilarious. The only thing keeping the San Fernando Valley afloat is the porn industry? Really? Weird.

/of course he said "decimate", not "devastate", so apparently it will only effect one in ten people there.

326 redc1c4  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:24:28am

re: #319 buzzsawmonkey

ISTR that "nunneries" could also be taken as "whorehouse", but English Lit wasn't my thing.......

327 freetoken  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:25:15am

The cognitive dissonance in the Democrat party/establishment is waxing strong tonight...

To whit, imagine reading this:

Don't expect any truth to come out of the screen of CNN!


at not LGF, but the self-heralding TalkLeft
where they are really gnashing their teeth over the MSM calls for Hillary to step down.

Meanwhile, Camille Paglia drags out the Clinton dirt sheet tonight at Salon:

[...]
I'm puzzled by the optimism of so many commentators and Democratic functionaries who are prophesying Hillary's graceful withdrawal by mid-June. Is there anything in the Clintons' tawdry history to support such a thesis?
[...]
Surely, given Hillary's claim of expertise on the basis of her service as first lady, every major or ambiguous episode in her husband's two presidencies should have been systematically reexamined by the media. I for one have renewed questions about the 1993 suicide of Deputy White House Counsel Vince Foster, Hillary's former law partner and longtime friend, whose files were purged by Hillary's staff before they could be examined for evidence.
[... and she continues the list...]

It's like there is a giant catharsis breaking on the left flanks of the US body politic, with some real old wounds getting re-infected.

328 eaglewingz08  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:27:55am

What are you talking about, the Obamanation has more skeletons in the closet than either Clinton? Is this insane? More skeletons than the Goreacle or Ralph Nader? More skeletons than Jean Fraude Carrie?
I will assume that the wait for the West Virginia primary results have led to this fill the time pointless thread. The Obamanation has many horrific associations, but the media has not even gotten into his associations and campaign contributors and endorsers in his State Senate campaigning, there should be alot of juice in that, especially in his run against Black Panther candidate Rush, whom the Obamanation lost to.

329 Killian Bundy  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:28:39am

Rain

/check your local forcast

330 redc1c4  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:29:15am

re: #325 gop_patriot

That's hilarious. The only thing keeping the San Fernando Valley afloat is the porn industry? Really? Weird.

/of course he said "decimate", not "devastate", so apparently it will only effect one in ten people there.

well, it *is* a multibillion $ industry (all ethical issues aside) and chasing it out with a tax like that is st00pid, unless you are willing to accept the monetary loss to remove most (but never all) of the business for whatever social gains it might produce. you certainly won't garner any long term revenue from this tax, since it will cause a major shift in the business. you'll lose not only the pr0n industry itself, but all the other supporting industries as well. then what?

331 freetoken  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:31:07am

Meanwhile, on the other side of the world, far from the political circus in the US, real people suffering a very real tragedy:

China quake 'worse than expected'

Local officials in Yingxiu, in Wenchuan County, said the devastation was worse than expected, as roads were blocked and children buried in debris.
Out of the town's population of 10,000, only 2,300 have been found alive after Monday's quake, of magnitude 7.9.
[...]
An army team in Yingxiu said they could hear cries under the rubble of collapsed buildings. The troops have rescued about 1,000 people in Wenchuan County, but an estimated 60,000 people remain missing.
[...]

And the stories go on and on, of town after town missing thousands of people. Very heartbreaking, with haunting photos...

332 redc1c4  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:32:38am

re: #329 Killian Bundy

Rain

/check your local forcast

here's mine as posted earlier......

/what rain?

333 gop_patriot  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:34:34am

re: #327 freetoken

It's amazing that so many people are now turning on Hillary, when just a year ago, they were still fawning and fondly remembering Bill's time in office. As soon as Obama started talking "hopeandchange", and passing out water bottles, they threw her aside and ran to sit at the feet of their new savior.

334 redc1c4  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:34:42am

re: #331 freetoken

Meanwhile, on the other side of the world, far from the political circus in the US, real people suffering a very real tragedy:

China quake 'worse than expected'

And the stories go on and on, of town after town missing thousands of people. Very heartbreaking, with haunting photos...

could it be that the PRC's response is because it's a convenient way to cut down on population pressure by letting Mother Nature & Malthus do the heavy lifting, or are they just incompetent?

/cynical

335 redc1c4  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:36:52am

re: #333 gop_patriot

It's amazing that so many people are now turning on Hillary, when just a year ago, they were still fawning and fondly remembering Bill's time in office. As soon as Obama started talking "hopeandchange", and passing out water bottles, they threw her aside and ran to sit at the feet of their new savior.

i guy i deal with 'round here was telling me late last fall that the Hildabeast was our next President. i told him that there were a lot of people in middle America who didn't like her. he told me they didn't matter.
i've been good and not brought the subject up recently. %-)

/yes, he's in the entertainment industry

336 gop_patriot  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:39:03am

re: #330 redc1c4

I know, I was just laughing about the fact that according to that guy, it's apparently the only thing keeping the San Fernando Valley from collapsing into a heap. Is this true, is pr0n really the biggest industry there? Could they live without it?

337 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:40:05am
338 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:41:59am

Mornin' folks...are we there yet?

To answer my own question: Nupe, not quite. The temperature of this C3H5(NO3)3 filled melon we're sitting-on reads 114°F so we've still a few degree's to go...but sudden movements(blinking or breathing) or melon thumping are not recommended at this time.

339 freetoken  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:45:15am

re: #333 gop_patriot

It does seem like a significant segment of the Democrat party (and allies) are readily, easily,... how shall I say this... throwing the Clintons under the bus...

When you've got a Democrat operative writing in a Democrat friendly magazine (Salon) raising questions about Hillary's involvement in the strange death of Vince Foster, then you know that indeed pigs are flying (somewhere...)

340 galloping granny  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:49:49am

re: #338 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Mornin' folks...are we there yet?

To answer my own question: Nupe, not quite. The temperature of this C3H5(NO3)3 filled melon we're sitting-on reads 114°F so we've still a few degree's to go...but sudden movements(blinking or breathing) or melon thumping are not recommended at this time.

Why are you sitting on a melon? Isn't it uncomfortable? And why so warm? Are you trying to hatch it?

/Morning aboo :)

341 freetoken  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:51:00am

re: #334 redc1c4

could it be that the PRC's response is because it's a convenient way to cut down on population pressure by letting Mother Nature & Malthus do the heavy lifting, or are they just incompetent?

/cynical

One would not expect buildings in China, save for the newest and most expensive perhaps Shanghai or Beijing, to be built to the tough standards that say California requires.

We discussed this last night... that life is cheaper in Asia. And by "cheaper" I mean many of the connotations/denotations of that word.

BTW, there have been stories floating about the internet that China is toying with the idea of getting rid of the one child policy.

342 BlueCanuck  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:52:07am

re: #340 galloping granny

I am still trying to figure out what aboo has in it, and why.

/Just from a quick glance and memory of chemistry it can't be good.
//looks explosive to me.

343 gop_patriot  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:54:13am

re: #337 buzzsawmonkey

Ah, OK!

I remember the part about rue, now, and what Hamlet said to Polonius. And of course the nunnery reference; but as for Ophelia's rambling in front of everyone at court, I never fully understand the meaning of what she said. It makes sense now, thank you!

/goes to look for the play, sheesh. lol I've got it around here somewhere...

344 littleoldlady  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:56:28am

WHY is buzzsawmonkey here at this time of day/night?

*waves* to buzz! :-)

345 redc1c4  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:56:31am

re: #342 BlueCanuck

I am still trying to figure out what aboo has in it, and why.

/Just from a quick glance and memory of chemistry it can't be good.
//looks explosive to me.

C3H5(NO3)3

This formula shows that nitroglycerin consists of 3 atoms of C, 5 atoms of H and then 3 molecules of NO3.

346 BlueCanuck  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:56:54am

Good morning littleoldlady. Things better today?

347 redc1c4  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:57:16am

re: #344 littleoldlady

WHY is buzzsawmonkey here at this time of day/night?

*waves* to buzz! :-)

he's stealing the fruit cup...... AFTER HIM!

348 littleoldlady  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:57:58am

re: #346 BlueCanuck

Good morning littleoldlady. Things better today?

Things are...the same.

/oh well.

BlueCanuck! :-)

349 BlueCanuck  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:58:01am

re: #345 redc1c4

Right, didn't do that in my chemistry class. So Carbon, Hydrogen, and Nitrous Oxide.

350 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:58:06am
351 gop_patriot  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:58:08am

re: #339 freetoken

When you've got a Democrat operative writing in a Democrat friendly magazine (Salon) raising questions about Hillary's involvement in the strange death of Vince Foster, then you know that indeed pigs are flying (somewhere...)

That's what I was thinking, a leftist bringing up Vince Foster? That is such a taboo subject! But it's OK now, I suppose; especially if it helps Barak and throws a wrench into the Hillary machine.

352 galloping granny  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:58:23am

re: #341 freetoken

One would not expect buildings in China, save for the newest and most expensive perhaps Shanghai or Beijing, to be built to the tough standards that say California requires.

We discussed this last night... that life is cheaper in Asia. And by "cheaper" I mean many of the connotations/denotations of that word.

BTW, there have been stories floating about the internet that China is toying with the idea of getting rid of the one child policy.

They already have gotten rid of the one child policy in rural areas. Their farms have since become much more productive.

Communist construction, as most of this was, is not exactly known anywhere for quality and attention to detail either. And China, of which only about 10% is arable land, has historically for thousands of years had famines in which millions die every few years.

Think of the disaster that New Orleans presented us with . . . . .

353 BlueCanuck  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:59:05am

re: #347 redc1c4

he's stealing the fruit cup...... AFTER HIM!

/trips redc1c on the way by.

Not this time you. ;)

/me thinks the red doth protest too much

354 gop_patriot  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:59:27am

re: #344 littleoldlady

Helping me with Shakespeare. :)

Hiya, littleoldlady! Hope you're well.

355 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:59:54am

Don't even cast your eyes in the direction of this melon, yikes - Hariri Sounds the Alarm: Sunni-Shiite Conflict On, No Surrender to Iran and Syria

...Saad Hariri announced that the Majority would not sign a "document of surrender" to Syria and Iran and warned that Hizbullah's attack on Beirut has started a Sunni-Shiite conflict. [...]

"We were expecting open war on Israel, but the open war was launched on Beirut,"....

356 littleoldlady  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:00:02am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet----------------->
Help yourselves!

357 BlueCanuck  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:00:08am

re: #352 galloping granny

I know my brother bought a house there last year. stairs, doors, plumbing, and wiring were optional.

/just the shell.

358 galloping granny  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:00:27am

re: #345 redc1c4

C3H5(NO3)3

This formula shows that nitroglycerin consists of 3 atoms of C, 5 atoms of H and then 3 molecules of NO3.

It is FIVE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING! (YOu looked that up, right?)

359 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:00:27am
360 BlueCanuck  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:01:08am

re: #358 galloping granny

It is FIVE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING! (YOu looked that up, right?)

I am willing to bet that he didn't. :)

361 littleoldlady  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:01:21am

gop! :-)

Shakespeare at 5 am.

/my head hurts...

;-)

362 redc1c4  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:02:11am

re: #341 freetoken

One would not expect buildings in China, save for the newest and most expensive perhaps Shanghai or Beijing, to be built to the tough standards that say California requires.

We discussed this last night... that life is cheaper in Asia. And by "cheaper" I mean many of the connotations/denotations of that word.

BTW, there have been stories floating about the internet that China is toying with the idea of getting rid of the one child policy.

even the one's allegedly built to better standards (if any) are suspect, given the rampant corruption, sub par materials, and the valuation issue you mention.

as for the "one child" policy, they've had it in place long enough that even removing it now means they're fisked for generations. since the culture places a higher value on boys than girls, their mix of the sexes is severely FUBAR. the stresses that this places on both the government & the culture are enormous, and the effects will be interesting to watch, in the same way a train wreck is. then you add in AIDS, various other diseases, and all the pollution, not to mention consumer unrest, and the Chinese are all set to "live in interesting times".....

/good thing they can't project power. %-)

363 galloping granny  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:02:12am

re: #357 BlueCanuck

I know my brother bought a house there last year. stairs, doors, plumbing, and wiring were optional.

/just the shell.

Foreigners can own property in China these days?

364 littleoldlady  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:02:14am

granny! :-)

Shakespeare and chemistry. Yeah.

/sheesh

365 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:03:10am
366 BlueCanuck  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:04:10am

re: #363 galloping granny

Well it's in his wifes name who is a national.

/I think, difficulties were involved I do believe.

367 littleoldlady  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:04:50am

re: #365 buzzsawmonkey

You're not ready for your final?

I have to wake my daughter up in a bit so that she can get ready for HER final. (Marketing.)

/school by osmosis

368 galloping granny  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:04:53am

re: #361 littleoldlady

gop! :-)

Shakespeare at 5 am.

/my head hurts...

;-)

Shakespeare at 5AM isn't too disturbing, but that someone knows the chemical formula for nitroglycerin off the top of their heads at this hour? Sheesh. I'm a member of the American Chemical Society and would have to look it up. But then I don't do explosives so I would have to look it up anyway :)

369 freetoken  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:04:57am

re: #356 littleoldlady

arigatou.... btw, do figs go well in fruitcups? I love fresh figs...

370 redc1c4  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:05:56am

re: #353 BlueCanuck

/trips redc1c on the way by.

Not this time you. ;)

/me thinks the red doth protest too much

like i'd run anywhere...... i could spill my drink!

/you're trippin

371 littleoldlady  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:07:09am

re: #369 freetoken

freetoken! :-)

Figs? EXOTIC! (What's arigatou?)

372 freetoken  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:08:12am

re: #362 redc1c4


as for the "one child" policy, they've had it in place long enough that even removing it now means they're fisked for generations. since the culture places a higher value on boys than girls, their mix of the sexes is severely FUBAR. the stresses that this places on both the government & the culture are enormous, and the effects will be interesting to watch,

Well, the Chinese (from mainland) females I have known seemed very interested in western males... ummmm... anyway, yes, the female/male ratio is so screwed now that disaster lurks. And yes, the Chinese I have known seem self aware of this problem.

373 galloping granny  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:08:18am

re: #366 BlueCanuck

Well it's in his wifes name who is a national.

/I think, difficulties were involved I do believe.

Ah - I see. I've always wanted to visit China. My best friend in elementary school was the child of a Chinese couple that my parents sponsored to come to the US after Mao took over. Back then you went home for lunch, so every other week we would go to my house and eat American with a fork. The other weeks we would go to his parent's restaurant and eat Chinese with chopsticks. His Dad would always give us a calligraphy lesson afterwards.

374 BlueCanuck  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:08:29am

re: #371 littleoldlady

freetoken! :-)

Figs? EXOTIC! (What's arigatou?)

Japanese greeting I think.

375 freetoken  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:08:38am

re: #371 littleoldlady

Japanese for "thank you".

376 redc1c4  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:08:40am

re: #355 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Don't even cast your eyes in the direction of this melon, yikes - Hariri Sounds the Alarm: Sunni-Shiite Conflict On, No Surrender to Iran and Syria

two words come to mind: "crack head".....

PJ was right!

377 Shug  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:09:37am

Q: What did the pub owner say to William Shakespeare?

A: You're Bard

378 littleoldlady  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:10:31am

AH! :-) De rien.

379 storagemanager  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:10:55am
I have never witnessed a presidential election in which a major candidate had this many skeletons in his closet.

And most Americans don't seem to care.

380 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:11:01am

re: #345 redc1c4

Ya' got it red, good mornin. There's some real nasty chemistry going-on at the moment and not only here at home. Don't you know the Arab's have got to be getting extremely nervous as Tehran looms large?

381 redc1c4  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:11:16am

re: #377 Shug

people have been shot for less....... %-)

382 freetoken  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:11:20am

Well, I've got to be movin' on and go do some work.... remember there was a time when life in the US seemed a bit gentler and less edgy.

Since it is after midnight, this seems appropriate with which to sign out...

383 BlueCanuck  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:12:32am

re: #381 redc1c4

Well some were discussing the bard, and at that time of history the pun was considered high humour. I will forgive him this one time.

384 storagemanager  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:13:48am
Russian news agencies say Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has urged international mediators on Iran's nuclear program to provide security guarantees that would boost chances of a diplomatic resolution.

Lavrov is quoted as making the call on Wednesday after meeting with German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier in Yekaterinburg. Germany and Russia are two of the countries in the so-called "sextet" seeking a resolution to tensions over Iran's alleged moves to develop nuclear weapons.

Lavrov said that getting Iran to the negotiating table depends on promises that the country is not under threat of military action.

The sextet also includes the United States, China, France and Britain

.
[Link: www.jpost.com...]

385 redc1c4  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:14:11am

re: #380 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Ya' got it red, good mornin. There's some real nasty chemistry going-on at the moment and not only here at home. Don't you know the Arab's have got to be getting extremely nervous as Tehran looms large?

part of that because they're not Arab and the other part because they're Shia........

kinda late in the game for the Arabs to start getting a shadow of a shred of a particle of a clue, doncha think?

386 gop_patriot  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:14:45am

re: #359 buzzsawmonkey

Which is to say, revealing the dirty bits.

In other words, the most entertaining parts. ;)

/I got my intro to Shakespeare by reading my father's Classics Illustrated. Macbeth was my favorite. I remember he also had The Count of Monte Cristo. He had read them until they were falling apart, and my brother and I finished them off. So much for those collectibles, but I think they went to better use. :)

387 redc1c4  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:15:17am

re: #383 BlueCanuck

Well some were discussing the bard, and at that time of history the pun was considered high humour. I will forgive him this one time.

oh, i lurvs me some puns....... that's still a groaner.

/and you misspelled "humor" %-)

388 littleoldlady  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:15:51am

re: #382 freetoken

Well, I've got to be movin' on and go do some work.... remember there was a time when life in the US seemed a bit gentler and less edgy.

Since it is after midnight, this seems appropriate with which to sign out...

I dunno. I remember as a child worrying about "the Russians pressing the button".

I also remember we left the front door unlocked pretty much all day, too.

389 storagemanager  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:16:18am
Slovenian President Danilo Turk arrived Wednesday morning for a visit at the Western Wall in Jerusalem. Upon his arrival, he requested to visit the Temple Mount and when his request was denied, immediately left the site.

Slovenia is currently the relieving president of the European Union, and thus Turk is considered a prominent European figure.

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

390 redc1c4  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:18:46am

re: #384 storagemanager

.
[Link: www.jpost.com...]

how about we garontee that if'n they don't quit screwing around and give up the nuclear program the survivors are going to wish they had?

391 BlueCanuck  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:19:18am

re: #387 redc1c4

oh, i lurvs me some puns....... that's still a groaner.

/and you misspelled "humor" %-)

*Ahem* British spelling. Humour, armour, colour, honour. . . . .

/deal with it. ;)

392 storagemanager  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:19:20am

re: #388 littleoldlady

I dunno. I remember as a child worrying about "the Russians pressing the button".

I also remember we left the front door unlocked pretty much all day, too.

393 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:19:35am
394 gop_patriot  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:20:29am

re: #361 littleoldlady

LOL :)

/glad I made it to fruitcup, I've been having withdrawals. Of course, that might be because of whatever red's been spiking it with... :X

395 redc1c4  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:21:15am

re: #391 BlueCanuck

*Ahem* British spelling. Humour, armour, colour, honour. . . . .

/deal with it. ;)

you're not in Britain: get over it. %-)

396 storagemanager  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:21:34am
(IsraelNN.com) Award-winning American actor Jon Voight on Tuesday visited terror victims, who he described as a "war zone." After visiting children who suffered wounds from rocket attacks, he said, "When I see these children, from my perspective they are traumatized children from a war zone. You are on (the) front line."

On Monday, Voight met with a wheelchair-bound victim of a 2002 suicide bombing in Jerusalem and another man whose arm still is in a sling as a result of a terror attack on former communities in the Gaza area. He called Arab terrorists "barbarians" with whom Israel should not negotiate.

"They are relentless, looking to destroy (Israel). If somebody breaks your leg, don't give another. Don't play this game," Voight said.

[Link: www.israelnationalnews.com...]

397 BlueCanuck  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:22:15am

re: #395 redc1c4

As a proud member of the British Commonwealth I will uphold the fine tradition.

/even though in the isles it's failing rapidly.

398 littleoldlady  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:23:06am

re: #392 storagemanager

Oh yeah! :-)

/but he looks WAY too young to remember what I remember...
//what's up with that?!

399 Shug  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:23:12am

Please, if you want to speak proper British, speak Arabic

400 Killian Bundy  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:23:49am

Antigone.

/awesome grilled cheese and bacon sandwich, just sayin'

401 redc1c4  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:24:15am

re: #397 BlueCanuck

As a proud member of the British Commonwealth I will uphold the fine tradition.

/even though in the isles it's failing rapidly.

well, there's always "honour killings" to look forward to, eh?

they've gone too far on the "Common" path and squandered all their wealth, IMHO.

402 BlueCanuck  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:24:31am

re: #399 Shug

It's coming to that now a days isn't it. :(

403 galloping granny  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:26:05am

re: #397 BlueCanuck

As a proud member of the British Commonwealth I will uphold the fine tradition.

/even though in the isles it's failing rapidly.

Heck, I'm not a Brit and never have been but I spell like one now and then. My mother insisted I learn, in the same way I learned to use a fork American style and European style. What gets me is that words I correctly learned as co-operate and so on are now just cooperate, sometimes shortened to coop, which always causes my granddaughter to ask what they mean but that . . . . . . isn't a coop a place for chickens?

404 littleoldlady  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:26:53am

re: #393 buzzsawmonkey

I like the Wizard of Osmosis. And his semi-permeable membranes.

The good news is that the laws of marketing pretty much haven't changed in 30 years.

The bad news is the buzzwords have, so you have to read the book to get an "A".

/i can haz channel marketing?
//I'm too old for this. :-(

405 redc1c4  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:27:55am

re: #403 galloping granny

Heck, I'm not a Brit and never have been but I spell like one now and then. My mother insisted I learn, in the same way I learned to use a fork American style and European style. What gets me is that words I correctly learned as co-operate and so on are now just cooperate, sometimes shortened to coop, which always causes my granddaughter to ask what they mean but that . . . . . . isn't a coop a place for chickens?

English doesn't borrow from other languages. English follows other languages down dark alleys, beats them unconscious and rifles their pockets for loose vocabulary.

406 storagemanager  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:27:56am

Dead man walking....

IsraelNN.com) Another case of an Arab who allegedly died because Israel denied him medical care but then was discovered alive and well has been reported by the Hebrew newspaper Yediot Aharonot. International media often have published claims that Israel's refusal to allow Arabs to enter Israel for medical care without a thorough security check has caused several deaths, many of which were later found to be falsely reported.

The latest case involves Mohammed al-Harrani whose son said he died while waiting for a permit to enter Israel. Israeli security officials stated they wanted to question Al-Harrani, who is suspected of being involved with terrorist activities. Before he was interrogated, his son told the Physicians for Human Rights group, "The sick man could not withstand the wait for the permit."

The following day, the doctors' group discovered the man was alive.

[Link: www.israelnationalnews.com...]

407 redc1c4  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:28:59am

that's it: i'm for bed........

boat drinks for everyone!

L8r. %-)

408 littleoldlady  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:29:41am

'Night, red! :-)

409 galloping granny  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:30:01am

Somebody come pick me up off the floor. I was looking at the story about Jon Voight and decided to click over to the front page to see what else they had to offer. Right there, bold as brass, I see this -

Pres. Bush: Olmert is Honest and Abbas is a True Peace Partner

I can't stop laughing. Has Bush completely lost his mind?

410 gop_patriot  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:30:26am

re: #407 redc1c4

Goodnight, sleep well!

411 littleoldlady  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:31:56am

Is he gone? Can we take the armed guards off the fruitcup now?

re: #409 galloping granny

[self deleted]

412 storagemanager  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:32:15am

Slavery speaks Arabic...........

AN Indian man, who was allegedly being held hostage by his Bahraini sponsor since Monday night for filing a complaint against him, reportedly escaped early yesterday morning.

The 39-year-old, who has been working for three years at an aluminium workshop in Salmabad, was said to have been prevented from accompanying the dead body of his wife's brother-in-law home.

The brother-in-law, 37, also Indian, committed suicide on Saturday morning at his Manama accommodation.

The salesman, who hung himself from a ceiling beam, was found by a colleague at 10.30am.

The 39-year-old asked for permission from his boss to go to Manama and make arrangements to repatriate the body, he told the GDN.

However, when he asked for 10 days leave to accompany the body home, his boss refused it and allegedly withheld his salary.

The man then filed a complaint at the Indian embassy on Monday.

An embassy official called the boss and asked him to let him accompany the body and he agreed.

However, when the worker returned to the workshop, the boss who was waiting for him, grabbed his CPR, put him in his room and asked him not to leave except for work.

The worker also claims that he was attacked by his boss who threw work materials at him.

He also threatened to file a case against the worker if he dared to complain to anyone about the incident.

The worker, however, reportedly escaped yesterday morning and stayed with a friend in Manama.

[Link: www.gulf-daily-news.com...]

413 storagemanager  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:34:08am
BAHRAIN health officials have launched an awareness drive following an outbreak of the potentially fatal Hand, Foot and Mouth Disease (HFMD), which has claimed several lives in China.

Reports suggested the number of Chinese children confirmed dead from the disease had risen to 34, with nearly 25,000 people being infected.

Health centres in Bahrain are now educating patients on how to spot the symptoms, Health Ministry head of combating contagious diseases Adel Al Sayed told the GDN.

He said that while there was "no danger" of anyone in Bahrain being affected, the country was not taking any chances.

"We need not worry about it but, at the same time there is no harm in taking some precautions," he said.

"Symptoms of this highly-contagious disease include fever and sores.

"It can result in death of children due to their less-developed immune systems.


[Link: www.gulf-daily-news.com...]

414 BlueCanuck  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:34:43am

re: #405 redc1c4

English doesn't borrow from other languages. English follows other languages down dark alleys, beats them unconscious and rifles their pockets for loose vocabulary grammar.


/fixed that for you.

415 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:36:06am
416 storagemanager  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:36:24am
Sure, if you go to Turkey, you may view one of the open pages through glass, but it is not available for scrutiny to the academic community. Why do you think that this is? All of the ancient Biblical Manuscripts are available for academic groups or individuals to scrutinize. Many even online. What is the Muslim world trying to hide? What are they afraid of? Why the need for such secrecy? So here is my open challenge:

If anyone can produce and provide me with a full copy of the Topkapi Manuscript of the Qur’an which is kept in the Topkapi museum in Turkey, this blog will be shut down.

Muslims often challenge anyone to compare their modern Qur’ans with the ancient and “original” Qur’ans. But what good is such a challenge if the oldest manuscript is kept unavailable for anyone (including all Muslims) to fully examine for themselves. Think about it.

“Produce your proof if you are truthful.” -Qur’an 2:111
Ironic isn’t it?


[Link: www.joels-trumpet.com...]

417 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:36:43am
418 BlueCanuck  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:38:32am

re: #417 ploome hineni

The spiker of fruitcups, the thrower of smoke, The monkey in the room, none other then redc1c4 himself. ;)

/I think he's part heyoka.

419 littleoldlady  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:40:07am

plooooooooomie! :-)

420 storagemanager  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:40:20am

re: #418 BlueCanuck

The spiker of fruitcups, the thrower of smoke, The monkey in the room, none other then redc1c4 himself. ;)

/I think he's part heyoka.


The monkey in the room...the President of Iran was here?

421 galloping granny  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:41:13am

re: #418 BlueCanuck

The spiker of fruitcups, the thrower of smoke, The monkey in the room, none other then redc1c4 himself. ;)

/I think he's part heyoka.

The one who knows the chemical formula for nitroglycerin at 5AM!

422 BlueCanuck  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:42:18am

re: #421 galloping granny

If you want I can give you the formula for black powder. :)

423 storagemanager  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:42:58am

re: #422 BlueCanuck

If you want I can give you the formula for black powder. :)


Pepper?

424 galloping granny  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:43:36am

re: #422 BlueCanuck

If you want I can give you the formula for black powder. :)

I'll keep that in mind. Might need it someday!

425 BlueCanuck  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:43:43am

re: #423 storagemanager

Hmmm, nope. The other stuff that goes bang.

426 BlueCanuck  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:44:42am

re: #424 galloping granny

Like all touchy stuff the tricky part is in the combining of ingredients.

/amazing what one picks up in stories.

427 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:49:24am
428 storagemanager  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:49:46am

It's dead...throw it in the trash.

429 galloping granny  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:49:51am

re: #426 BlueCanuck

Like all touchy stuff the tricky part is in the combining of ingredients.

/amazing what one picks up in stories.

This is always true in chemistry. "Add acid to water just like you ought-er"

430 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:49:56am
431 storagemanager  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:50:37am

re: #427 ploome hineni

is Joel for the site you link an exmuslim?


sorry...don't understand the Q.

432 Killian Bundy  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:51:22am

Jean-Paul Sartre's Existentialism and Humanism Part 1/2

It's all bull[expletive deleted].

The Flies, an apt play put on during th occupation.

/we bailed France and its collaborators out twice, don't make us come back

433 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:51:29am