Wonder if the President will visit down south?

Hamas Rocket Hits Shopping Center

And obama understands why these people endorse him.

Can we has carpet-bombing nao?

hamas hearts obama

The homemade rockets militants usually fire at Israel do not have enough range to reach Ashkelon. Militants use longer-range rockets to hit the city of 100,000, 9 miles from the Gaza-Israel border.

TERRORISTS, you ignorant buffoons.

Happy freakin' Nakba!

Where did they get that long-range missile?

While the rest of the world yawns...

The Israeli leader said at the end of the talks that Israel would not tolerate attacks from Gaza militants.

I feel so much better, don't you?

GO GET THEM!

Today was supposed to be the day "millions" of "displaced Palestinians" were going to march, drive, fly, into Israel to assert their "Right of Return."

Haven't heard anything about that.

Hamas is really asking for it.

Ask and ye shall receive...hopefully.

re: #1 Nevergiveup

Wonder if the President will visit down south?

McCain visited Sderot in March.

Prayers for the rapid recovery of the wounded.

and
72 white raisins of the rocketeers.

One rocket came close to the power plant.
If Hamas damages the plant, and Israel is short on electricity, think the world will still tell Israel to supply power to Gaza, and if they need to black out part of Israel, do so?

Time to let the Israelis take out Hamas. That means replacing Olmerde first, though.

Enough of this silliness, take the gloves off already.

A rocket fired from Gaza

See? It's all the fault of those darned Israeli settlements in Gaza.

Oh, wait...

re: #7 MandyManners

I don't want to know. I'm still reading John Bolton's book and I'm learning a lot I didn't want to know.

Being grown-up sucks sometimes.

re: #7 MandyManners

Where did they get that long-range missile?

Iran

They had better get it soon. If a Democrat is elected this fall, Israel will be under siege more than ever, with nobody to help if necessary.

re: #11 Alouette

Today was supposed to be the day "millions" of "displaced Palestinians" were going to march, drive, fly, into Israel to assert their "Right of Return."

Haven't heard anything about that.

Probably because they are too busy firing rockets into civilian centers trying to murder whoever they can

re: #6 Alouette

Happy freakin' Nakba!

Write that on the JDAMs.

two babies were among the wounded

Well now if that doesn't call for a spontaneous Pali block party, I don't know what does.

/spit

If you support "Palestine" then you support baby killers.

...pretty simple...

I can't even fathom living under the conditions these good, innocent people do... God bless them...

I hope Israel can at a minimum neutralize this threat, if not completely destroy it...

re: #6 Alouette

It's their party, after all...

/someone needs to spin while Babba's gone...

re: #18 storagemanager

Iran

Provable?

re: #16 Occasional Reader

See? It's all the fault of those darned Israeli settlements in Gaza.

Oh, wait...

It must be the fault of the constant sore.

re: #20 Sizzlack

They're not civilians, they are infidels --even worse, they are jews.

What, aren't we suppossed to understand them?

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re: #13 jcm

McCain visited Sderot in March.

Prayers for the rapid recovery of the wounded.

and
72 white raisins of the rocketeers.

It was just a thought, but I am sure the Secret Service would not allow it, and for good reason.

re: #26 MandyManners

Provable?

I'll bet it is.

re: #26 MandyManners

Provable?

They are too smart for that.

re: #14 Kosh's Shadow

Or perhaps something they'll understand.

One rocket, one cruise missile going back to the launch point.

Two rockets, two cruise missiles.

And so on.

Could you imagine?

Houston - A rocket fired from Mexico exploded in a shopping center in the southern U.S. city of Houston on Wednesday, wounding at least three people and leaving two trapped under rubble, officials said.

Rescue service spokesman said two babies were among the wounded. Witnesses told radio stations that the rocket caused considerable damage and said at least two people were trapped.

re: #26 MandyManners

Provable?

Well, it likely would not matter... We know Iranian weapons and fighters are killing our guys and gals in Iraq and we do nothing...

Isn't it time that Israel repatriates the Gaza Egyptians with Egypt?

Sad way to start the day, news like this.
I can't linger, I am taking more exams today.
Carry on.

Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Tuesday denounced the 60th anniversary of Israel's establishment. Speaking to domestic and foreign reporters, the Iranian leader said "celebrating birth anniversary for a dead will not have any effect on it nor will the presence of those who intend to attend the ceremony be of any help in giving a life to the dead body."

"Those who are to gather in the occupied land in Palestine and attend the ceremony marking the establishment of the illegal regime assume that their action would help bolster the declining regime," said the Ahmadinejad, according to IRNA. The world public opinion understands that holding such a ceremony indicates the weakness and decline of the fabricated regime, said the president.

A message was sent to President..a rocket in a shopping mall. [Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]

re: #5 MandyManners

If any other people with an elected government fired rockets from their territory into a neighboring state, would they be called "militants?"

re: #32 Kalak

One rocket, one cruise missile going back to the launch point.

Two rockets, two cruise missiles.

Nice start, but not good enough. (Also, cruise missiles are too expensive).

One rocket = one sustained, prolonged 155mm counterbattery fire.

That's better.

Rescue service spokesman Eli Bean said two babies were among the wounded.

And the heroic bravery of warriors who can defeat babies will be celebrated for generations.

re: #35 coquimbojoe

Isn't it time that Israel repatriates the Gaza Egyptians with EgyptAllah?

Fixed!

re: #33 ec marm

Could you imagine?

If we just give them back Arizona, we'll have peace.

re: #33 ec marm

Could you imagine?

That's only because we occupied their land.

/

re: #31 storagemanager

They are too smart for that.

There were reports that Hamas was getting technical help from Hizballah, which means from Iran. But with the Gaza-Egypt border being as porous as it is, it could be coming from anywhere.

How about a real war to settle this?

They are all Iran..........

Former ambassador to Syria tells Arab newspaper, 'The resistance in Lebanon materialized following the Iranian revolution and later reached Palestine'

Hizbullah, Hamas and the Islamic Jihad are the Iranian revolution's legal sons, a former Iranian ambassador to Syria and one of Hizbullah's founders has said.

In an interview published Wednesday with the London-based Arabic-language newspaper al-Sharq al-Awsat, Mohamed Hassan Akhtari said that "the imam Khomeini and the Islamic Republic of Iran saw the Palestinian problem their own, and therefore set the global Jerusalem Day in the month of Ramadan in support of the Palestinian issue.

"As we all know, the Hamas movement and the Islamic Jihad were established after the Islamic revolution victory in Iran, inspired by the imam Khomeini and the resistance he led."

[Link: www.weaselzippers.net...]

re: #35 coquimbojoe

Isn't it time that Israel repatriates the Gaza Egyptians with Egypt?

The only time the Gazans are repatriated to Egypt is when they blow a hole in the wall Egypt built on the border to keep them out.

re: #33 ec marm

No, I can't. The rest of the world mocks us because they see us as naive, yet we have managed to create a society in which a diverse culture can prosper in peace.

Israel is no different in that respect. The only difference is that we don't have generations of uneducated, inbred psychopaths bent on our total destruction living right next door.

G-d help Israel.

I wonder how the MSM will play it down this time.

re: #26 MandyManners

Provable?

No, but an very good possibility. Hamas can only stuff low grade solid fuel in a pipe with a pointy end and fins. Guidance and range they need some help.

Almost on a daily basis, Hamas launches rockets into southern Israel, occasionally killing some poor soul. The latest victim was a woman of about 70 who was killed yesterday. Israel usually retaliates, and Palestinians -- some of them just as innocent as the Israeli victim -- are killed.

Richard "Israel Was a Mistake" Cohen, Washington Post, as quoted by Power Line. Notice how Hamas kills one at a time, but Palestinians die in the plural. Cohen sees Hamas as a riddle that the clever Obama, not the blunderbuss McCain, can solve. Reminds me of the English actress who said she could have cured Hitler of antisemitism, though perhaps she'd have needed two or three sessions.

re: #34 tfc3rid

Upding'd #41, but I suspect the Army's keeping a lid on what's happening with Iranians because they don't want any more negative MSM exposure than they're getting now.

re: #41 tfc3rid

Fixed!

Let their enablers deal with them.

Militants? Those aren't "militants" - they are terrorists.

re: #31 storagemanager

They are too smart for that.

Can the Israelis trace the shrapnel?

olmert's not going to do anything, either. lebanon + gaza = a hot summer

caroline glick is right on

by extension, so is ralph peters

re: #19 JammieWearingFool

They had better get it soon. If a Democrat is elected this fall, Israel will be under siege more than ever, with nobody to help if necessary.

You know, I actually that Hillary would not be bad for Israel. Neither would McCain, of course. But BHO would be a singular disaster.

re: #34 tfc3rid

Well, it likely would not matter... We know Iranian weapons and fighters are killing our guys and gals in Iraq and we do nothing...

We're not doing anything yet.

"Asking for it" is a bit of an understatement. I'd say they're pretty well demanding it.

re: #37 storagemanager

A message was sent to President..a rocket in a shopping mall. [Link: gatewaypundit.blogspot.com...]

Yep. This was message to Pres. Bush.

re: #33 ec marm
We only look the other way when Americans are kidnapped in Mexico.

[Link: www.google.com...]

re: #57 Russkilitlover

You know, I actually that Hillary would not be bad for Israel.

I think she'd be more or less status quo. Which is bad, but (arguably) not disastrously so.

re: #50 jcm

No, but an very good possibility. Hamas can only stuff low grade solid fuel in a pipe with a pointy end and fins. Guidance and range they need some help.

This comes with Iran's declarations of wanting to kill Israel today... Just another day in Paradise.

re: #39 Occasional Reader

Nice start, but not good enough. (Also, cruise missiles are too expensive).

One rocket = one sustained, prolonged 155mm counterbattery fire.

That's better.

With the counterbattery radar the IDF has they know the launch point while the rocket is still in flight, they could have a barrage outbound before the bastards had a chance to yell aloha snackbar. But counterbattery fire is not pinpoint.

And Condi Rice has what to say, now?

Lebanon set to cancel anti-Hezbollah measures

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

re: #57 Russkilitlover

You know, I actually that Hillary would not be bad for Israel. Neither would McCain, of course. But BHO would be a singular disaster.

Well that is the problem. Israel can't afford even one "SINGULAR" disaster. The Arabs know that and are just bidding their time.

re: #61 zmdavid

Because we're probably sending in people like this...to try to rescue them?

/likes that movie...

re: #55 MandyManners

Can the Israelis trace the shrapnel?

It doesn't matter...no one seems to be stopping Iran anyway.

re: #58 MandyManners

We're not doing anything yet.

From your keyboard to the Pentagon's ears Mandy!

re: #65 jcm

But counterbattery fire is not pinpoint.

Yep. So I guess some of the Palestinians who let the rocketeers set up in their neighborhoods might feel the pain, too. Damn shame, that...

re: #66 Golem Akbar

"

We will not let this attack on the peace process hamper the road leading to a fully democratic Palestine, living side-by-side in peace and harmony with Israel, singing kumbabaya and having felafel sales together from Gaza to Ramallah to Haifa and Tel Aviv," said Rice

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JUST KIDDING BUT THAT'S WHAT SHE'S THINKING

re: #26 MandyManners

Provable?

From the horse's mouth:

Senior Hamas operative figure tells London Sunday Times’ Gaza Strip correspondent about Iranian and Syria military aid, detailing the training received by hundreds of Hamas terrorist operatives and describing the transmission to Hamas of Iranian technical know-how for the manufacture of rockets and IEDs.

[Link: www.rightsidenews.com...]

The world is pretty much already set, where a full scale assault against Israel will draw yawns from the U.N., and most of the West.

It's frustrating to live in these "perilous times", where there are "rumors of wars", and watch nearly the entire world filled with a deep deception, much of the USA included, where these people call evil good, and good, evil.

This world and existence truly are in Gods control, because at this point, mankind couldn't find his way out of a wet paper bag, and that will never change.

God Bless Israel and God Bless America

I'd like to ask something...

Weren't the "liberation" groups of the 70s very Arab-Socialist/Nationalist rather than Pan-Islamist? That would explain why the uber-lefties are so infatuated with the "liberation" of Palestine...

And will the Palestinians pass out candies again for wounding Israelis at a shopping center?

re: #70 storagemanager

It doesn't matter...no one seems to be stopping Iran anyway.

Soon, I hope, soon, it will change.

So if Israel should return engagement to Gaza-morons, will they be ordered to restrain themselves yet again?

re: #51 chinesearithmetic

Israel = the Jew

re: #71 tfc3rid

From your keyboard to the Pentagon's ears Mandy!

I wish.

re: #65 jcm

That's because the Palis tend to put the launchers on top of occupied apartment buildings, schools or even hospitals.

The return fire would kill all the people down below. The Palis know this. It's their human shields, and their PR when it happens. They can declare that the Israelis killed innocent people.

re: #71 tfc3rid

From your keyboard to the Pentagon's ears Mandy!

Now you wouldn't be accusing the NSA of peeking at our computer communications would you?

Why kind of sociopaths launch rockets not knowing if they will hit women or children - and not caring - since those women and children are truly the intended target?

Hamas aka known as Obama supporters.

Olmert probably won't do anything because he's up to his arse in alligators. OTOH, a swift response might divert some of the attention away from his troubles.

Talansky to give preliminary testimony in PM probe May 25

re: #77 lawhawk

Just wait for it...I'm sure we'll get the pictures soon.

This is the usual Palestinian M.O. Whenever a foreign diplomat (Zinni, Condi, etc.)shows up to promote "the peace process," they ramp up the terror. It is designed to tell Israel "who's in charge," especially since Israel will have to smile and take it.

As others have noted above, Israel had better take action soon, as President B. Hussein Obama will only "hold up a mirror" to the Jews, to teach them to die with dignity so as not to upset "our allies."

re: #65 jcm

Case in point?

/no pun intended.

re: #74 David Simon

[Link: www.rightsidenews.com...]

Hoo boy!

I don't think Iran stopped at training on how to assemble them.

Actually, I don't have a problem with the term militants. Very often, the wire services & the NY Times (et al) refer to them as activists.

Better that they're militants than activists, freedom fighters, social workers, reformists, or whatever other laudatory term the MSM chooses to describe terrorists.

re: #83 Nevergiveup

Now you wouldn't be accusing the NSA of peeking at our computer communications would you?

I would actually be pleased if they were reading here... Maybe they would learn a thing or two...

re: #73 WriterMom

"

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JUST KIDDING BUT THAT'S WHAT SHE'S THINKING

True enough. Sometimes misguided idealism hurts more people than anyone realizes (giving her some credit for believing her bs). It's time to wake up and smell the burning flesh of innocent Israelis.

re: #85 BrianA

Olmert probably won't do anything because he's up to his arse in alligators. OTOH, a swift response might divert some of the attention away from his troubles.

Talansky to give preliminary testimony in PM probe May 25

Wag the Dog.

re: #76 laZardo

I'd like to ask something...

Weren't the "liberation" groups of the 70s very Arab-Socialist/Nationalist rather than Pan-Islamist? That would explain why the uber-lefties are so infatuated with the "liberation" of Palestine...

Uber-leftists just love anything that fashions itself as a 'resistance.'

re: #69 laZardo

I liked that movie too.

The Associated Press writer said Prime Minister Ehud Olmert called the attackers Gaza militants.

I wonder if that is actually what Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said or if he called them terrorists.

re: #79 tfc3rid

So if Israel should return engagement to Gaza-morons, will they be ordered to restrain themselves yet again?

ORDERED?

re: #77 lawhawk

And will the Palestinians pass out candies again for wounding Israelis at a shopping center?

Well if I were the Israeli Prime Minister, they would be passing out candles for a very different reason, since the lights would be going off all over Gaza, and would not be coming back on for a long time! But that's just me.

Will Obama condemn the behavior of Hamas? Especially since they have endorsed him?

Return fire a thousand fold.

re: #90 firebreather

Actually, I don't have a problem with the term militants. Very often, the wire services & the NY Times (et al) refer to them as activists.

Better that they're militants than activists, freedom fighters, social workers, reformists, or whatever other laudatory term the MSM chooses to describe terrorists.

Give it a week and they will start calling them 'social workers' and then we'll get frustrated that they are no longer calling them 'militants'...

re: #82 Kalak

That's because the Palis tend to put the launchers on top of occupied apartment buildings, schools or even hospitals.

The return fire would kill all the people down below. The Palis know this. It's their human shields, and their PR when it happens. They can declare that the Israelis killed innocent people.

Stand up bunch of guys those Hamas "Militants" takes a real [deleted] man to hide behind a baby's crib.

re: #46 storagemanager

They are all Iran..........

[Link: www.weaselzippers.net...]

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DJimmy Carter created Iran's current crop of evildoers & their exports that kill people we love.

Trying to appease evil has never worked, and never will work.

Evil either needs to be destroyed, or it will rule.

This world doesn't have the stomach to destroy evil, hence, evil seems to be ruling, the key word here, being, "seems".

In a sane world...someone would stop this........

A man who witnessed the Grad rocket hit in Ashkelon told Ynet, "Suddenly we heard a loud explosion. The whole place was shaken. People left everything and began running scared, trampling each other. There was a great panic." (Shmulik Hadad)

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

re: #97 MandyManners

ORDERED?

Well, what would you call what they were 'forced' to do against the Hezzies a few summers ago?

re: #89 MandyManners

Hoo boy!

I don't think Iran stopped at training on how to assemble them.

Correct:

Iran aids and supports Hamas in the following ways: by transferring enormous sums of money to the Hamas government in the Gaza Strip and to the Hamas movement; by training Hamas operatives in military skills in Iran; by smuggling arms into the Gaza Strip, including the 122mm Grad missiles which recently attacked Ashqelon

Gotta run work calls.

re: #57 Russkilitlover

You know, I actually that Hillary would not be bad for Israel. Neither would McCain, of course. But BHO would be a singular disaster.

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Hillary co-hosted Arafat for 8 straight years in the Lincoln Bedroom, for nothing but continued attacks against Israel and our allies and ourselves.

According to J post, it was a Grad-type rocket, copies of which are made by Iran, Egypt, China, North Korea, etc.

The Grad is a relatively accurate, fin-stabilized rocket and launch system, the rocket usually having a fragementation warhead.

In other words, it's not a rocket you can knock together in a garage. It's spin-stabilized as it leaves the launcher, which requires precision machining.

Hamas couldn't make them on their own.

re: #96 Lawrence Schmerel

The Associated Press writer said Prime Minister Ehud Olmert called the attackers Gaza militants.

I wonder if that is actually what Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said or if he called them terrorists.

Sir, are you inferring that the media might actually deliberately misquote somebody? Are you inferring that the media, whose ethical standards are 2nd to no other profession on earth, would be willing tools of propaganda on behalf of Islamic terror groups? Shame on you!

/Sarc

My goodness, I see on WND, that Hamas is going to make a statement saying that they now don't endorse Obama.

I'm sure that some more of Obamas Hamas supporting advisors quickly met with Hamas and told them that Hamas' support could harm Obamas chances.

The fact that this country is even taking Obama seriously as a POTUS contender, means this country is already screwed, because it's only a matter of time, if not November, that one of these kooks will be elected, while their kook counterparts control the Congress.

The world is insane.

Oh you cynical Lizards!

Those talks Jimmy Carter had with Hamas are going to bear fruit any day now, you just wait and see.

re: #110 Kalak

According to J post, it was a Grad-type rocket, copies of which are made by Iran, Egypt, China, North Korea, etc.

The Grad is a relatively accurate, fin-stabilized rocket and launch system, the rocket usually having a fragementation warhead.

In other words, it's not a rocket you can knock together in a garage. It's spin-stabilized as it leaves the launcher, which requires precision machining.

Hamas couldn't make them on their own.

What? You think Hamas would actually try to acquire weapons when suffering a fuel shortage and the people are starving?

/Reuters-AP

re: #19 JammieWearingFool Hey Jammie - great post in the spinoff links about the guys trying to assasinate President Bush!

re: #32 Kalak

Or perhaps something they'll understand.

One rocket, one cruise missile going back to the launch point.

Two rockets, two cruise missiles.

And so on.

The launch point is in the middle of a field somewhere, and they often send kids to pick up the launcher. Israel attacks the launcher, and Ham-ass blames Israel for shooting civilians, and the world believe Ham-ass.
The warehouses and rocket workshops need to be taken out. Of course, they are all in civilian areas as well, but that will have more of an effect than taking out a single launcher.

re: #110 Kalak

According to J post, it was a Grad-type rocket, copies of which are made by Iran, Egypt, China, North Korea, etc.

The Grad is a relatively accurate, fin-stabilized rocket and launch system, the rocket usually having a fragementation warhead.

In other words, it's not a rocket you can knock together in a garage. It's spin-stabilized as it leaves the launcher, which requires precision machining.

Hamas couldn't make them on their own.

See my link - #74.

re: #112 republic

The kooks have long been in control of other key institutions.

The media. The public school system. The universities. The publishing industry. Hollywood. The ACLU. The judiciary. I could go on....

re: #84 DistantThunder
The kind that are one step above those that deliberately target civilians - see, e.g., 9/11, 7/7 and regretably all of the attacks made against Israel which were designed to kill civilians.

re: #51 chinesearithmetic

Reminds me of the English actress who said she could have cured Hitler of antisemitism, though perhaps she'd have needed two or three sessions.

I could have cured Hitler of antisemitism with one session bullet
(Wasn't alive then, though)

re: #65 jcm Yeah, but there IS hope for the military future - just saw an anti-mortar weapon in use (in a video sent by a friend) that litterally knocks mortar shells out while they are still in flight. Not a long way from that to taking out these 122mm rockets.

re: #109 alegrias

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Hillary co-hosted Arafat for 8 straight years in the Lincoln Bedroom, for nothing but continued attacks against Israel and our allies and ourselves.

I can't believe I'm defending Hillary, here, but she was the First Lady at that time, not the Pres, nor of any official position.

Hamas Rocket Hits Shopping Center

Sorry, Palestinian rocket hits shopping center and this President SHOULD NOT has no business to BE SUPPORTING THE PALESTINIAN CAUSE!

Damn time many of our supposed supporters thow themselves into that discussion!

U.S. Should End Talks & Aid To PA's Abbas If PA Doesn't Release Imad Sa'ad, Who Assisted Israel Against Terrorists.

Let's start calling a spade a spade!

re: #122 Russkilitlover

Sorry, but didn't she use those 8 years as part of her campaign platform of extensive past experience in government.

re: #68 Nevergiveup

Well that is the problem. Israel can't afford even one "SINGULAR" disaster. The Arabs know that and are just bidding their time.

That's my point. The MSM will be determined to do all they can to get BHO elected, but I'm not counting Hillary out just yet and am, in fact, rooting for her. I really don't think that McCain can beat BHO nationally.

re: #61 zmdavid

We only look the other way when Americans are kidnapped in Mexico.

[Link: www.google.com...]

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In both instances, thugs rule with impunity, whether fueled by narcos or Iranian petrodollars.

2 things.

1. Olmert definately did not use the word "militant."

2. Unfortunately, I predict Olmert's response will be to fortify the roofs of malls, instead of defortifying the terrorists.

Now can we build the wall really high? And say F--k it to the parts of the world that ask why Israel has fences and walls and checkpoints. In fact, how bout the Arabs take care of the Palis themselves and not ask Israel to provide fuel, water, electricity or anything else. What the hell did the Arabs ever do for Israel except try to destroy it?

re: #65 jcm

With the counterbattery radar the IDF has they know the launch point while the rocket is still in flight, they could have a barrage outbound before the bastards had a chance to yell aloha snackbar. But counterbattery fire is not pinpoint.

And I believe the terrorist's M.O. is to set up the launcher, light the fuse, and then head for the hills. They send children in to retrieve the launcher, so counter-battery fire would most likely kill the children, which is double-plus good from the terrorist's standpoint.

I'd suggest that a better way to retaliate would be for Israel to conduct a targeted bombing on the homes of known Hamas members and politicians. Blow up one home for every rocket fired. And if women and children are killed, well, it's the fault of Hamas for keeping them in a known target area.

If the blowback started killing Hamasniks in large numbers, the idea just might sink in that that the rocket campaign is slow suicide.

re: #124 madisonsfriend

Sorry, but didn't she use those 8 years as part of her campaign platform of extensive past experience in government.

True - but that's all politics and everyone knows it. I'm more mollified by her 8 years involvement in the Senate foreign affairs and arms services. She's actually been pretty hawkish. She has to run and hide from that record for election purposes, but she has not been a pacifist.

I have no sympathy for the Israeli population. They voted for Olmert. Everybody with half of brain knew this would happen. There is only one way to stop this. Leveling gaza with heavy artillery, but no one in Israel has the guts to do it.

re: #131 mojo jojo

I have no sympathy for the Israeli population. They voted for Olmert. Everybody with half of brain knew this would happen. There is only one way to stop this. Leveling gaza with heavy artillery, but no one in Israel has the guts to do it.

Not a good remark. They didn't all vote for him and I have every sympathy for the Israeli population.

re: #99 seekeroftruth

Will Obama condemn the behavior of Hamas? Especially since they have endorsed him?

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That candidate owes his popularity in part to his UNwillingness to condemn atrocities, much less FIGHT those who commit them.

That candidate voted against calling a spade a spade.

re: #112 republic

My goodness, I see on WND, that Hamas is going to make a statement saying that they now don't endorse Obama.

I'm sure that some more of Obamas Hamas supporting advisors quickly met with Hamas and told them that Hamas' support could harm Obamas chances.

The fact that this country is even taking Obama seriously as a POTUS contender, means this country is already screwed, because it's only a matter of time, if not November, that one of these kooks will be elected, while their kook counterparts control the Congress.

The world is insane.

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It means Hamas works with that candidate for our presidency, like it works with Jimmy Carter, on their "message".

Sovereign independent nations don't allow this.

If Israel doesn't immediately start operations to finish the terrorists in Gaza once and for all, history will mark today as the day the sovereign state of Israel died.

re: #131 mojo jojo

I have no sympathy for the Israeli population. They voted for Olmert. Everybody with half of brain knew this would happen. There is only one way to stop this. Leveling gaza with heavy artillery, but no one in Israel has the guts to do it.

Being stupid voters should not be a capital offense.

You don't know how our own stupid voters will vote come November.

re: #90 firebreather

Actually, I don't have a problem with the term militants. Very often, the wire services & the NY Times (et al) refer to them as activists.

Better that they're militants than activists, freedom fighters, social workers, reformists, or whatever other laudatory term the MSM chooses to describe terrorists.

This morning on ABC news, the attack on NYC on 9/11 was distilled to 'the collapse'. Drives me crazy.

re: #122 Russkilitlover

I can't believe I'm defending Hillary, here, but she was the First Lady at that time, not the Pres, nor of any official position.

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True dat but Arafat was very welcome at the Clinton White House.
Whereas, Arafat was persona non-grata at the Bush White House--no chocolates on no Lincoln Bedroom pillow for terrorists.

re: #49 Red Dawn

I wonder how the MSM will play it down this time.

They will either ignore it or bury it on the back page next to an ad for Viagra.

Time is coming when Israel will respond with such force that Hamas will wish it never formed itself.

re: #130 Russkilitlover

True - but that's all politics and everyone knows it. I'm more mollified by her 8 years involvement in the Senate foreign affairs and arms services. She's actually been pretty hawkish. She has to run and hide from that record for election purposes, but she has not been a pacifist.

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"Running and hiding" from your record is cowardly.
Hillary ran and hid from the fact she landed in dangerous Baghdad, because she was ashamed of having voted for our troops to do their job defending the US and our friends and allies.

If Hillary were a hawk, she wouldn't be a democrat.

Israel and the USA don't need leaders who run & hide anymore.

Obama supporters and Jimmy's friends are bragging:

Hamas Boasts: We Fired the Rocket

[Link: www.israelnationalnews.com...]

I have no sympathy for the Israeli population. They voted for Olmert.

Welldigger's ass sighting

Pathetic Israelis!

This is a country who have sheep as citizens. They are unwilling to defend their own land and their own children.

The dim witted George Bush and his Hench woman Condi Rice demand that Israel lay supine and give their enemies the means to destroy them.

Only the sniveling coward Israeli electorate would endorse this madness.

The average Israel reads about the rocket attacks in Tel Aviv and Yawns. Drink another cup of expresso while your brothers and sisters are blown to shreds you lousy cowards!

Israel and the Jewish people are lost. The world needs a miracle.

MSNBC's typical misleading reporting...

[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]
(emphasis mine)

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, responding to fresh violence Wednesday in the Gaza Strip, said Israel will “not tolerate” attacks by Hamas.

Then goes on to say...

Two Palestinian civilians and three militants were killed Wednesday in Israeli military raids on the Gaza Strip.

"Violence in the Gaza Strip" is supposed to mean Palestine attacks Israel, "military raids" means Israel attacks Palestine for no apparent reason.

re: #131 mojo jojo

You hit it on the head brother!

(IsraelNN.com) The Hamas rocket that hit an Ashkelon shopping center Wednesday afternoon was launched from amidst the ruins of the Jewish community of Dugit, which was torn down by Prime Minister Ariel Sharon in 2005. Dugit is about 15 km. distant from Ashkelon.

re: #136 Opinionated

What nonsense. How can you explain away a nation refusing to defend it's own children and sovereignty? Perhaps as a nation the US will elect a government which fails like Israelis. Brother, I tell you right now-when our government puts our own citizenry in lethal jeopardy, I and many others will take to the streets.

The time has come for Israel's Zionists and nationalists to rise and topple the socalled Democracy in Israel. It is a sham, with corrupt leaders on every spectrum.

not likely that they'll hit Tysons Corner mall in Virginiastan since they opened a mosque Muslim prayer room there recently

re: #148 PeaceAtAllCosts

You obviously don't understand me. And you didn't read what I wrote in #135.

That millions of Israelis are not marching today, yesterday, last month, last year, on the Knesset, that they didn't prevent the surrender of Gaza, is all inexplicable.

On this course Israel is doomed. Nothing less then doomed.

But #131, to which I was responding in #136, where you took offense, put the original blame and subscribed punishment to the (some) of the Israeli people who made an idiotic election choice. They don't deserve death for hoping against odds- that is an Israeli and human trait- that their choice would lead to peace.

Stupidity was in the choice, true, but the real blame is today, when they do nothing knowing the consequence of that choice.

Good will be called evil and evil good....

How many times have multiple nations attacked, or been poised to attack the small territory that is Israel during th past 60 years? Gaza was taken as Israel defended herself from one such attack. Yet, the world blames the Jews. The world hates the Jews.......I just shake my head and mourn.

The world should condemn this act and back Israel with forced repatriation that leaves Gaza as a DMZ no-man's land. This stuff just makes me so very angry and frustrated.

Oh,
I bet this thread of comments will not even come close to the number of comments brought about by a discussion of evolution, and that pisses me off too.

re: #151 mekan

Good will be called evil and evil good....

How many times have multiple nations attacked, or been poised to attack the small territory that is Israel during th past 60 years? Gaza was taken as Israel defended herself from one such attack. Yet, the world blames the Jews. The world hates the Jews.......I just shake my head and mourn.

The world should condemn this act and back Israel with forced repatriation that leaves Gaza as a DMZ no-man's land. This stuff just makes me so very angry and frustrated.

Nu? You're just now discovering this? I learned it half a century ago. Welcome to the shtetl.

re: #144 PeaceAtAllCosts

and this is different than what Europeans and Americans are doing, how?

Meanwhile keep in mind that America and Europe are leaning on Israel to even tear down security checkpoints. And mind you that leaning has a stick component attached to it, probably economic.

re: #131 mojo jojo

they voted for Mini-Sharon and got Olmert, is slightly more accurate. Olmert ran on the Sharon way and a portion of the public expected that Sharon would wake up and step into his place.

Currently only 2 percent or so would vote for Olmert again

re: #39 Occasional Reader

Nice start, but not good enough. (Also, cruise missiles are too expensive).

One rocket = one sustained, prolonged 155mm counterbattery fire.

That's better.

STOP SHOOTING AT F'''' FIELDS HIT BUILDINGS WITH ARABS IN IT SINCE THE ARABS ARE SHOOTING AT ISRAELI PEOPLE FAIR IS FAIR

AND SINCE THE IRANIANS AND SYRIANS ARE BEHIND THIS HOW ABOUT HITTING SOME OF THERE GOV'T BUILDINGS AS WELL.

The Israelis value life highly and want to live, whereas the brainwashed Gazans boast of how they worship death. They confirm how little they value their own lives by the hundreds of prisoners they expect to be released in exchange for one Israeli. Why, exactly, should the West value the lives of such people any higher than they value themselves?

re: #96 Lawrence Schmerel

I wonder if that is actually what Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said or if he called them terrorists.

See the following snip from the Yahoo! News link provided in the lead which does not match the story summary in the lead, and in which the words attributed to Olmert (without quotation marks) seem to include "extremists" and arguably "militants".

"The Israeli leader said Israel would not tolerate attacks by extremists in Gaza, which has been controlled by the Islamic militants of the Hamas movement since last June."

Also, the Jerusalem Post says Olmert said "terrorists" not "militants" , although this was also without using quotation marks.

It seems to me that if one wanted to nail Olmert (rather than Yahoo! News) for using the word "militants" then one should have better evidence than Google News provided.

re: #96 Lawrence Schmerel

I wonder if that is actually what Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said or if he called them terrorists.
See the following snip from the Yahoo! News link provided in the lead which does not match the story summary in the lead, and in which the words attributed to Olmert (without quotation marks) seem to include "extremists" and arguably "militants".

"The Israeli leader said Israel would not tolerate attacks by extremists in Gaza, which has been controlled by the Islamic militants of the Hamas movement since last June."

Also, the Jerusalem Post says Olmert said "terrorists" not "militants" , although this was also without using quotation marks.

It seems to me that if one wanted to nail Olmert (rather than Yahoo! News) for using the word "militants" then one should have better evidence than Yahoo! News provided.
(PIMF)

I FOR ONE WOULD BE MUCH HAPPIER IF BUSH HAD SAID 'WE START BOMBING GAZA IN 15 MINS' PEACE WITH WHOM? HELL IF I KNOW.

and yes i am yelling.

re: #3 Kalak

Can we has carpet-bombing nao?

You know, there are days where I share this feeling.

I really hate myself for thinking this though. I know that ALL of the people living in Gaza are NOT murderous thugs. There are SOME innocents living there, especially children.

The other infuriating thing is how this gets reported. Where is the world wide condemnation? These are innocent people, going about their lives, doing the things that we all do every day. No ONE should be subjected to this type of threat. NO ONE.

Why do we NOT hear the vaunted U.N. condemning what is certainly a complete violation of all their so called 'laws' and codes? Where are the lefties in this country, who are SO concerned about the deaths of innocent people everywhere? Could it be that these people are Jewish and hence don't deserve their support or help?

Wars have been fought over much less than this and by wars, I mean REAL wars... You know, the kind where armies actually meet, battle and one side wins, the other loses...

Its so obvious to this ignorant American that Hamas and Hezbollah are in cahoots. I fear that they are working towards provoking Israel into taking rash actions that will once again hand over a propaganda victory to these thugs and give them even more 'prestige' around the muslim world and with the likes of Carter and Obama...

You know what's truly frightening?

Al-Reuters' coverage is more anti-Israel than Al-Jazeera's.

An ostensibly Western news service has out-hated the original haters, and is bowing and scraping even more than their masters wanted them to.

re: #162 Tazzerman

shooting a GARD MISSLE at a civilian target is a act of WAR!

re: #162 Tazzerman

But what other solution is there?

Hamas: "We want peace!"
Hamas: "Death to Israel" *fires rocket*
Hamas: "We want peace!"
Hamas: "Death to Israel" *fires rocket*
Hamas: "We want peace!"
Hamas: "Death to Israel" *fires rocket*
Hamas: "We want peace!"
Hamas: "Death to Israel" *fires rocket*
Hamas: "We want peace!"
Hamas: "Death to Israel" *fires rocket*

...for years and years and years and years. Without end.

It has to stop.

re: #165 Kalak

But what other solution is there?

Hamas: "We want peace!"
Hamas: "Death to Israel" *fires rocket*
Hamas: "We want peace!"
Hamas: "Death to Israel" *fires rocket*
Hamas: "We want peace!"
Hamas: "Death to Israel" *fires rocket*
Hamas: "We want peace!"
Hamas: "Death to Israel" *fires rocket*
Hamas: "We want peace!"
Hamas: "Death to Israel" *fires rocket*

...for years and years and years and years. Without end.

It has to stop.

WE DID NOT TALK PEACE TO THE NAZIS DURING WW2 HAMAS ISN'T MUCH DIFFERENT DEFEAT THE ANTI SEMITES AND THEN WE CAN TALK PEACE.

Note to Pres. Bush: now, please leave and take dhimmi Condoleeza Rice with you.re: #11 Alouette

re: #155 sultan_knish
Olmert is a LAWYER which means he is a jerk. He is not a military leader.

re: #153 American Soldier
Oh, but Obama undrstaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaads.

Hamas is really asking for it.

I seriously doubt it, Charles. I hope you are right, but I doubt it. It's time to no longer differentiate between the political wing and militant wing of Hamas. Time to start killing ALL Hamas leader an/or members. Kill a bunch of politicos and watch how fast conditions change. Maybe Jimma Farter can get them to stop.

This will probably get deleted, but what the hell.

Hamas isn't asking for it. Israel is. When you don't respond appropriately to someone who is kicking the shit out of you, this is precisely what you get.

And we're going to continue "asking for it". Until we final "get it" and give the bastards exactly what they need.

Gaza needs to be "liberated". Not occupied, liberated. It must be made extremely clear that this is Israeli land, and will permanently be Israeli land. Anyone who has a problem with it can be provided with an exit visa. Anyone who engages in terrorism can expect his entire immediate family to be dropped off at the border and pointed in the direction of the nearest town. I am convinced that this is the only thing that will work. It worked the first time Gaza flared up 30 years ago, it works for the Kurds in the mixed towns, it works and it is the only that will work.

-ron

Hamas is really asking for it

Yes, they are. That's their point. If Israel responds in any way other than the most minor retaliation, then Hamas gets the 'muslim world' on their side. That's what they want.

re: #7 MandyManners

Iran or Egypt. There are 2 options:

Option one:
Several dozen Russian made Grad rockets were smuggled into Gaza from Egypt back in 2006. Those rockets are used by many armies around the world, including the Egyptian one and are still used by the Russians. The rockets that were smuggled are 122mm 101 lbs 9M22M Grad type T rockets for the single tube mobile launcher 9K132 Grad type P. The weapons have a maximum range of about 10 miles. These rockets are a lesser version of the standard Grad The Grad is quite accurate in comparison to other cheap NGBFRs (non-guided barrage fire rockets).

Option two:
From the 2007 takeover Iranian made Nur NBFRs are being smuggled into Gaza. The Nur is a 122mm rocket, an upgraded version of the Russian Grad rocket. The Nur has a range of about 16 miles, it also carries improved payload and has greater occuracy. Nur rockets can be launched from single tube launchers or from multi tube barrage fire launchers.

For every rocket into Israel, return 100 into Gaza.

I know I'm late to the party here today, but I am so sick of this crap.

Bomb them, kill them, remove them.

Give the Palis the equivalent of the one-way bus ticket out of town...to Egypt, Jordan or the depths of the Med for all I care.

Is anyone else sick of this?