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Lebanese Government Capitulates to Hizballah Demands

Wed, May 14, 2008 at 8:47:26 am PDT

The Lebanese government is caving in to the terrorist gang Hizballah, and war with Israel is getting closer: Lebanon set to cancel anti-Hezbollah measures.

Notice the bizarre propaganda spin of this Reuters piece; this is a surrender to Hizballah’s demands, but you’d never know it from this piece by yet another Reuters Arab stringer, Yara Bayoumy, who frames it as “canceling anti-Hizballah measures.”

BEIRUT (Reuters) - Lebanon’s cabinet was expected on Wednesday to cancel measures it took against Hezbollah that triggered fighting during which the Iranian-backed movement briefly took over parts of Beirut, political sources said.

“You can say it’s a done deal, but we’re waiting for the cabinet meeting,” one political source said. Prime Minister Fouad Siniora, who is supported by the United States, was due to hold a cabinet meeting at 11:30 a.m. EDT.

Rescinding a ban on Hezbollah’s communications network and the sacking of Beirut airport’s security chief, who is close to the group, is one of Hezbollah’s demands to lift its blockade of the airport and its campaign of civil disobedience.

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1 Opinionated  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:49:06am

The silence is deafening when no Israelis are involved.

2 Sharmuta  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:49:36am

Cowardly.

3 zmdavid  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:49:59am
campaign of civil disobedience.


Nice try, Reuters.

4 gop_patriot  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:50:16am
Rescinding a ban on Hezbollah’s communications network and the sacking of Beirut airport’s security chief, who is close to the group,

They're going to reinstate the airport security chief who is Hezbollah? That's insane.

5 Golem Akbar  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:50:20am

Olmert can't last much longer. No sarc at all. It's war.

6 winston06  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:50:48am

Bomb the Iranian regime NOW

7 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:50:58am

Son's of Israel, destiny is calling.

8 Cognito  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:51:09am

This is only a small thing, I suppose, but I've got to say I'm pleased to see how many of these stories are noting -- high in the stories -- Hezballah's support from Iran.

I hope people are starting to shake themselves awake, a bit.

9 storagemanager  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:51:25am

Iran is gaining ground.

10 lawhawk  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:51:57am

Welcome to Hizbullahland.

11 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:51:58am

"its campaign of civil disobedience."

Armed terrorists running thru the streets = civili disobedience

Look for civil disobedience coming soon to a town near you.

The proper response would be to exterminate this vermin.

12 winston06  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:52:00am

re: #9 storagemanager

Mullahs are getting away with this?

13 Cognito  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:52:16am

re: #3 zmdavid

Nice try, Reuters.

Actually Hezballah has been doing a civil-disobedience thing. Alongside, of course, the shooting in the streets...

14 MandyManners  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:52:18am

Reuters isn't here today?

15 laZardo  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:52:21am

I'm going to vent my cynicism and say that the Islamic Republic of Palestine under Syranian control is nearing its creation. No nation can survive without friends...

16 storagemanager  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:52:22am

Mr.President...the only thing on the run...is freedom.

17 Opinionated  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:52:31am

Caroline Glick

How Lebanon was lost

In the early days of the war, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice demanded that Israel take no action against the Saniora government which she claimed - wrongly - was a credible US ally. Largely as a consequence of Rice's demand, and of the Olmert-Livni government's refusal to target Hizbullah and Hamas training and logistical bases in Syria, the Olmert-Livni government's strategy against Hizbullah lost its strategic rationale. From then on, Israel's defeat was just a matter of time.

AFTER THE war, the US was given an opportunity to actually support democratic, anti-Iranian-Syrian forces in Lebanon by supporting the Saniora government when Hizbullah abruptly bolted the ruling coalition and backed by Iran and Syria attempted to take control of the government by assassination and terror.

The US could have taken action against Syria or Iran. But instead it sought to appease Iran and Syria in the hopes that they would temper their support for insurgents in Iraq. The pinnacle of this US abandonment of the March 14 movement was Rice's decision to invite Syria to participate in her peace confab at Annapolis last November.

Both the US and Israel's silent acquiescence to Iran's takeover of Lebanon through Hizbullah complements their acceptance of Iran's takeover of Gaza through Hamas.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

The Western world is led by idiots.

18 MrSilverDragon  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:52:36am

The only thought running thru my mind at the moment... it's all swirling down the drain. :/

19 MandyManners  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:52:53am

re: #9 storagemanager

Iran is gaining ground.

All the more with which to bury it, I hope.

20 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:53:20am
campaign of civil disobedience.

I blew up a couple of mom and pop shop's yesterday. Killed a few people on the highway. Launched a couple of Qassam's across the town at my neighbors.

Good thing it's protected under the 1st Amendment. I was just expressing myself.

///

21 laZardo  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:53:26am

re: #8 Cognito

Come to think about it...I've actually noticed Syria and Iran being noted in the blocks of text quoted on LGF.

22 bosforus  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:53:35am

Israel's gotta be thinking about going on the offensive pretty soon.

23 zmdavid  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:53:46am

re: #13 Cognito

Actually Hezballah has been doing a civil-disobedience thing. Alongside, of course, the shooting in the streets...

So now they've agreed to stop the civil disobedience... but not the shooting in the streets?

24 Atweber[deleted]  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:53:56am
25 tfc3rid  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:54:32am

It's very odd that he puts it as 'the Iranian backed movement took over parts of Beirut'...

Anyway, of course they sre shilling for the Hezzies... Lebanon is not cancelling out of the goodness of their hearts... They have been overrrun and the government is now in Hezzie control...

But that's not what the MSM wants you to believe...

26 laZardo  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:54:37am

re: #20 Oh no...Sand People!

I'll get your record yet, Rakim! I'm not going out with only 20 virgins to my name. These are trying times when the Zionists are making so many martyrs that there aren't enough virgins to go around...

///

27 storagemanager  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:54:58am

Iran is not scared...why should it be?

28 Lawrence Schmerel  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:55:27am

The Lebanese government is Hizballah's toy.

29 Occasional Reader  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:55:44am
and its campaign of civil disobedience.

Yeah, HizbALLAH is almost exactly like Martin Luther King, Jr. The parallels are just astounding. Why did I never notice before. Thanks, Reuters.

/spit

30 zmdavid  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:55:47am
"The general direction of the Lebanese government is ... to put civil peace above all else, including the latest (cabinet) decisions," Wael Abu Faour, a parliamentarian in the ruling coalition, told Reuters.

Oh, well.

31 JamesTKirk  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:55:48am

re: #8 Cognito

This is only a small thing, I suppose, but I've got to say I'm pleased to see how many of these stories are noting -- high in the stories -- Hezballah's support from Iran.

That's not nearly as big a negative to the MSM as being US-supported, though.

32 storagemanager  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:56:15am

re: #28 Lawrence Schmerel

The Lebanese government is Hizballah's Iran's toy.


fixed it

33 tfc3rid  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:56:29am

Thank you Stinky and Charles for banning #24... Uncalled for...

34 savage_nation[deleted]  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:56:33am
35 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:56:51am

re: #26 laZardo

I'll get your record yet, Rakim! I'm not going out with only 20 virgins to my name. These are trying times when the Zionists are making so many martyrs that there aren't enough virgins to go around...

///

If only they could get the memo.

36 pat  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:57:02am

Reuters uses almost exclusively Muslim stringers, with Anglo names being mere figureheads. Which means the reporter and editor know they are misconstruing the story. (as opposed to AP which doesn't nhave a clue).

37 storagemanager  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:57:14am

I still have no idea ..why BabbaZee and I were deleted.

38 Cognito  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:57:16am

re: #23 zmdavid

So now they've agreed to stop the civil disobedience... but not the shooting in the streets?

My understanding is that they ceased fire a couple of days ago, although only because they'd pretty much taken over the city.

No need to shoot, if everybody's already hiding.

39 tfc3rid  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:57:48am

re: #37 storagemanager

I still have no idea ..why BabbaZee and I were deleted.

Not a clue from my standpoint...

40 tfc3rid  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:58:10am

re: #38 Cognito

And no need to shoot when you've won...

41 pat  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:58:29am

Actually Iran has been behaving strangely these last weeks. As if they were scared of something.

42 storagemanager  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:58:35am
IsraelNN.com) Hamas has taken responsibility for firing a Grad missile which hit the Chutzot Ashkelon shopping center Wednesday afternoon.

[Link: www.israelnationalnews.com...]

43 winston06  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:58:51am

re: #41 pat

last weeks? I thought they have done this since 1979 though.

44 anotherindyfilmguy  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:58:57am

Civil disobedience when islam is involved = kill, rape, pillage and do anything you want to pressure the other side to cave in...

Oh wait... maybe "civil disobedience" is just the new code for "armed coup by islamofascists"...

45 tfc3rid  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:59:08am

re: #41 pat

Actually Iran has been behaving strangely these last weeks. As if they were scared of something.

Or planning something... Playing coy...

46 AmeriDan  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:59:21am

Will someone please call Jimmy Carter?

The latest peace process may be in jeopardy. It's almost like the different sects of Islam are not as peaceful as we've been led to believe.

47 pat  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:59:38am

whoa. lots of deletes

48 storagemanager  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:59:52am

re: #41 pat

Actually Iran has been behaving strangely these last weeks. As if they were scared of something.

Iranian president says anniversary celebrations won't save Jewish state from 'annihilation' by Middle Eastern nations [Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

49 Charles  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:59:55am

re: #37 storagemanager

I still have no idea ..why BabbaZee and I were deleted.

If your comment is deleted, and you don't like it, you're free to go start your own blog and post that comment at it. I do not owe you an explanation, and demanding one will not be received well.

50 thedopefishlives  Wed, May 14, 2008 8:59:57am

Ugh. Somebody needs to man up and stand up to these thugs. I get sick of waking up in the morning and reading yet another story of Islamotards intimidating their enemies into whatever it is that they want. "Peace in our time," indeed.

51 Opinionated  Wed, May 14, 2008 9:00:03am

While Bush in Israel celebrates:

At least 14 hurt as Grad rocket hits Ashkelon shopping mall

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Imagine if I told you 10 years ago that Israel would be under bombardment 24/7 without any serious response.

It's unbelievable.

52 pat  Wed, May 14, 2008 9:00:55am

re: #43 winston06

last weeks? I thought they have done this since 1979 though.

Definitely a change in tone in Iran. They will no longer destroy Israel, but the Palestinians will, etc.

53 Charles  Wed, May 14, 2008 9:01:12am

How many times do I have to tell people that 'nuke Mecca' posts will be deleted? Apparently it isn't sinking in with some people. So I'm going to simply start taking away accounts for it, starting now.

54 winston06  Wed, May 14, 2008 9:01:48am

re: #52 pat

Palestinian terrorists = Iranian Mullahs

55 winston06  Wed, May 14, 2008 9:02:18am

re: #53 Charles

May be it was Congressman Tancredo ;-)

56 storagemanager  Wed, May 14, 2008 9:02:27am

re: #49 Charles
Very well...I was not demanding..good day.

57 dhimmi smits  Wed, May 14, 2008 9:04:13am

if lebanon is now a de facto hizbollah state, israel can afford to be less discriminating on what they hit when war comes again. israel's damned either way, but they might as well try to finish the job olmert, peretz and co. bungled so badly...

58 pat  Wed, May 14, 2008 9:04:32am

re: #54 winston06

Palestinian terrorists = Iranian Mullahs

In the Iranian mind, there is a sharp distinction between the Shiia and Sunni. Iran is trying to create client States to a restored Persia. Palestine is almost exclusively Sunni, and has been historically a client State of the Saudis, and formerly, Iraq.

59 AmeriDan  Wed, May 14, 2008 9:04:44am

re: #53 Charles

How many times do I have to tell people that 'nuke Mecca' posts will be deleted? Apparently it isn't sinking in with some people. So I'm going to simply start taking away accounts for it, starting now.

Not even with a /sarc tag? The moonbats love that! Redmeat and all that.

60 Charles  Wed, May 14, 2008 9:04:51am

I see 'Shaemus' doesn't like that rule.

61 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, May 14, 2008 9:07:55am

re: #4 gop_patriot

They're going to reinstate the airport security chief who is Hezbollah? That's insane.

The world should, but won't, require all flights from Beirut to have fighter escort, paid for by the airline.
And the planes, passengers, and cargo, should be stripped down and searched thoroughly before being allowed on to connecting flights.
All this done while the plane is far away from any terminal building.

Israel should be paid to run the security.
They don't like it? They get rid of Hizbullshit.
This would essentially shut down the airport.

62 winston06  Wed, May 14, 2008 9:09:30am

re: #58 pat

Yes, but Iranian regime helps Shiite and Sunni terrorists alike. Their goal is to destroy US and Israel.

63 Golem Akbar  Wed, May 14, 2008 9:11:53am

re: #17 Opinionated

The Western world is led by idiots.

I would only add "well intentioned idiots."

64 thedopefishlives  Wed, May 14, 2008 9:13:11am

re: #63 Golem Akbar

The road to a very unpleasant place is paved with good intentions.

65 winston06  Wed, May 14, 2008 9:13:33am

re: #63 Golem Akbar

Smart and dedicated people like Amb. Bolton should run the US foreign policy

66 ilevinelaw  Wed, May 14, 2008 9:13:46am

I read the Reuters article. Positively Orwellian. On the one hand, they admit that there was fighting between the Lebanese government and Hezbollah. Then, they claim that Hezbollah tactics are part of "civil disobedience."

67 winston06  Wed, May 14, 2008 9:14:03am

re: #64 thedopefishlives

Heard that statement on HBO's Rome series. Good One!

68 zmdavid  Wed, May 14, 2008 9:16:43am

Killing infidels is illegal in Lebanon, so doing so is civil disobedience.

They are just protesting an unjust law.
/

69 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, May 14, 2008 9:18:28am

I'm waiting for G-d to show the Iranians, with an earthquake near Nantaz (sp?)
Preferably while the centrifuges are running. Hope all the UF6 gets trapped in the rubble; nasty stuff. Unless Amadmanonjihad is in the area; then I hope he gets a lungful.

70 winston06  Wed, May 14, 2008 9:23:24am

re: #69 Kosh's Shadow

Children and innocent people live nearby that site. Let's wish/work for Regime Change!

71 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, May 14, 2008 9:25:17am
campaign of civil disobedience.

Just like Gandhi and Martin Luther King jr.

72 Ben Hur  Wed, May 14, 2008 9:30:45am

ACCESS (and fear of death) TRUMPS TRUTH

73 alegrias  Wed, May 14, 2008 9:36:24am

re: #43 winston06

last weeks? I thought they have done this since 1979 though.

* * *
You're right, DJhimmi Carter nearly thirty years ago, started this olympic iranian marathon torch run through the middle east.

74 Kenneth  Wed, May 14, 2008 9:39:20am

ATTENTION: TAKE THIS REPORT WITH A VERY LARGE GRAIN OF SALT!

There is not one fact, not one attributed quote to a reliable spokesperson in it. This report is pure political spin, pure Middle East Grade A Bullshit

Follow the more reliable Lbeanese blogs to find out what is actually happening and stop running around like Chicken Littles believing every doom & gloom psy-ops the enemy fires our way.

Do you recall the same crap in Reuters about Basra a month ago? Sounds familiar doesn't it?

75 annar  Wed, May 14, 2008 9:49:47am

Everything is on track for Lebanon to be an Islamic state modeled after Iran within the next three years. An all out war with Israel could retard or thwart the process but otherwise, after a brief civil war which the Christians and their allies will lose rather rapidly lacking, as they do, equivalent firepower, a mass exodus of the losers toward Europe and the U.S. will follow. The U.S. under the inspired leadership of Imam Obama who would have run up the white flag before the Lebanese Christians got a chance to do so themselves will be morally obligated to accept a good share of the immigrants.

The jihad will eventually follow the refugees to Europe and then the U.S. where the crescent moons and stripes will float in the breeze, unless the sleeping masses wake up soon.

76 Kenneth  Wed, May 14, 2008 9:52:43am

Hezbollah’s weapons of mass delusion

It is no longer possible to avoid a serious discussion of Hezbollah’s weapons and the party’s role in a new Lebanon. The alternative to such a discussion is a future of perpetual conflict between the Lebanese state and the Hezbollah state, with potentially disastrous consequences for everyone, most significantly the Shia community.

77 Sabnen  Wed, May 14, 2008 10:02:10am

Does the U.S. have the resources to fight a proxy war against Iran in Lebanon?

Wall Street Journal reported today that the 'Recession' may not be nearly as deep, if at all, than economist were reporting two months ago; so financially, it may be possible. I wonder about the will . . .

I just wondered about the will . . . I don't think it is there . . . good luck Israel, you're on your own! Happy 60th Anniversary gift . . . Love, USA

78 Abu Lahab  Wed, May 14, 2008 10:02:21am
campaign of civil disobedience


I think it was anything but civil

79 Kalak  Wed, May 14, 2008 10:16:44am

So Hezbollah takes over, Lebanon reverts to the post-civilization toilet it was for nearly thirty years of civil war...They get jealous and attack Israel, Israel beats the crap out of them.

Mission accomplished there, I guess, Hezbollah.

80 Kenneth  Wed, May 14, 2008 10:39:10am

re: #77 Sabnen

If by "resources" you mean the USS Cole, currently off the coast of Lebanon, then yes the US has.

81 Kenneth  Wed, May 14, 2008 10:41:03am

Bush criticizes Iran for supporting Hezbollah
May 14, 2008

US President George W. Bush on Wednesday accused Iran of trying to destabilize Lebanon through its support for Hezbollah, as he reaffirmed support for Prime Minister Fouad Siniora.

"Hezbollah, the so-called protector of the Lebanese against Israel, has now turned on its own people," Bush said in Jerusalem after a meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert.

"Hezbollah is supported by Iran, and it's an Iranian effort to destabilize Lebanon’s democracy, and the United States stands strongly with the Siniora government."

82 Kalak  Wed, May 14, 2008 10:42:17am

re: #80 Kenneth

They ought to let the Cole get in some hits on some radical Islamists. Both the crew and the ship deserve that payback.

83 Bill K.  Wed, May 14, 2008 10:43:16am

The takeover of Lebanon by Hezbollah was entirely predictable. After the stomach turning appeasement by Bush, Rice and Olmert to end the war in 2006, no other outcome was remotely possible. The maddening point is that the war could have been won with relative ease. Hezbollah, as we now know, was on the ropes and if Israel had persisted and Bush and Rice not panicked, the outcome would have completely different.

Because of this damning appeasement Iran, Syria, Hezbollah and Hamas are on the rise and a much wider war with much greater casualties is virtually assured. Don't these goddamn politicians ever learn?

84 Kenneth  Wed, May 14, 2008 10:45:33am

re: #82 Kalak

I'd say they have a righteous score to settle.

85 pegcity  Wed, May 14, 2008 10:48:44am

re: #83 Bill K.

Hezbollah has been killing US soliders in Iraq since 2003 not to mention the 243 dead marines in Beirut, why can't the POTUS admit hezbollah is the enemy.

86 Kenneth  Wed, May 14, 2008 10:49:48am

re: #83 Bill K.

The takeover of Lebanon by Hezbollah was entirely predictable.

Don't speak of this as a done-deal. Hezbollah has attempted to take over parts of Beirut. They got their asses whipped by the Druze militia when they tried to take the Chouf mountain district. Now the Lebanese army is moving against Hezbollah. It isn't over yet, but I would bet on Hezbollah winning this battle.

87 Kenneth  Wed, May 14, 2008 10:51:16am

re: #85 pegcity

I would say Bush just did:

"Hezbollah is supported by Iran, and it's an Iranian effort to destabilize Lebanon’s democracy, and the United States stands strongly with the Siniora government."

88 pegcity  Wed, May 14, 2008 10:55:21am

re: #87 Kenneth

and what is his plan to wage war on them, squeeze israel for more concessions, because somehow the settlements are the root cause of hezbollah?

89 Is it me?  Wed, May 14, 2008 10:58:44am

Do the Lebanese government (they actually have a functioning one?)
have any survival instinct at all? To say that they will capitulate to Hezballah because civil peace comes above everything is madness.
If Hezballah are allowed to walk into Beirut then we will have a rerun of their civil war or a blood bath. It's bad enough to watch now but that would be almost unbearable. I do hope valentine81 (?) is OK.

If Hezballah effectively takes over Lebanan the Christians will be in deadly peril, probably the Druze too. Not only that but they will have unfettered access to ports to import what weapons they like. That will probably mean a Naval blockade or track and search operation being necessary in the Eastern Med. It will also mean that they can scoot down the coast and attack Israel or supply arms to Gaza. It will make it much easier for Iran to supply arms in greater quantities assuming that they could get clear access to Lebanese ports.
This will give Iran 2 countries north of Israel from which they can launch attacks. Iran is still interfering and fighting in Iraq. They want to gain control over it if they can, that would give them a corridor from Tehran right to the Med.
I think the only things that are saving Israel from a massive attack at the moment is the presence of Coalition troops in Iraq and that most of Israels' eastern border is with Jordan. It could also be that they are not ready yet - I don't that they would include the Palestinians (altho they could just join in) because they are so chaotic and unpredictable.
I've always been amazed that Iran and Syria have managed to keep a relationship going for so long. I can only hope that they have a lovers tiff, that could take the pressure off a bit.
This is very bad, very bad indeed.

90 Solomon2  Wed, May 14, 2008 11:19:41am

Charles, I think you are over-reacting a little here. The Leb gov't had issued a decree it had no chance of enforcing, and Hezbollah over-reacted and gained the streets but lost political credibility. These people lived through 20 years of urban civil war and aren't easily cowed by thugs roaming the streets, nor do they wish to see civil war again. Furthermore, the current situation doesn't resemble the chaos of the civil war, because as Hezbollah ran through the streets, the Lebanese Army came up behind them to maintain a minimal semblance of order; that Army could still take action, if the political situation clarifies: Lebanon: a Consociate, Not a Democracy.

If this is all Hezbollah has to show - if it undertakes no new initiatives - it is all downhill for Hezbollah from here - they only control what Lebanese are permitting them to control, and that only for the moment. Hezbollah will certainly become increasingly paranoid, maybe even desparate. They are no longer thought of as "The Resistance" by most Lebanese, they have now reduced themselves to just another militia.

91 ericj  Wed, May 14, 2008 11:37:28am

Tony Badran, over at Totten's Place has a very different spin on this information.

92 Prikolno  Wed, May 14, 2008 11:49:08am
[...]campaign of civil disobedience.


I hope this not the kind of civil disobedience Arl Sharpron was going to introduce in New York.

93 aaron  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:03:09pm

re: #86 Kenneth

Now the Lebanese army is moving against Hezbollah.


Sure they are.

94 Opinionated  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:14:09pm

ENABLING HEZBOLLAH

By RALPH PETERS

May 14, 2008 -- AS Hezbollah's terror army dismantles Lebanon, the world whistles "Ain't That a Shame."

With its heavily funded proxies marching through an Arab democracy's ruins, Iran has arrived on the Mediterranean, outflanking Israel.

Syria's surrogates punish Beirut. Lebanon's crippled government cringes at the whims of Hassan Nasrullah, Hezbollah's strongman. Terror rules.

And not one civilized country lifts a finger.

[Link: www.nypost.com...]

95 Colin Nelson  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:15:04pm

Isn't the use of the combination, "Lebanese Government" a bit of a stretch?

What I find positively amazing is that a Hezbo full bore, military tactical and strategic communications system is in place whose purpose is to fight Israel and to at the end of the day, to help them take over all of the Lebanon.

That this fictional "Lebanese government" is now retreating to status quo anti is even more amazing - to say nothing about it being suicidal!

Wonder as well who built this (sophisticated) system for them?

Was anybody watching them?

96 Opinionated  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:16:13pm

re: #81 Kenneth

Bush criticizes Iran for supporting Hezbollah
May 14, 2008

I hope he didn't strain himself expressing all that criticism.

97 Charles  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:16:26pm

re: #90 Solomon2

Charles, I think you are over-reacting a little here. The Leb gov't had issued a decree it had no chance of enforcing, and Hezbollah over-reacted and gained the streets but lost political credibility. These people lived through 20 years of urban civil war and aren't easily cowed by thugs roaming the streets, nor do they wish to see civil war again. Furthermore, the current situation doesn't resemble the chaos of the civil war, because as Hezbollah ran through the streets, the Lebanese Army came up behind them to maintain a minimal semblance of order; that Army could still take action, if the political situation clarifies: Lebanon: a Consociate, Not a Democracy.

If this is all Hezbollah has to show - if it undertakes no new initiatives - it is all downhill for Hezbollah from here - they only control what Lebanese are permitting them to control, and that only for the moment. Hezbollah will certainly become increasingly paranoid, maybe even desparate. They are no longer thought of as "The Resistance" by most Lebanese, they have now reduced themselves to just another militia.

Letting Hizballah have their private illegal telecom network, and letting them run Beirut airport security, isn't surrendering?

98 Alibaba  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:18:52pm

Rice is a total dhimmi moron and guess what: Bush is also. re: #17 Opinionated

99 Opinionated  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:19:28pm

re: #90 Solomon2

Charles, I think you are over-reacting a little here. The Leb gov't had issued a decree it had no chance of enforcing, and Hezbollah over-reacted and gained the streets but lost political credibility. These people lived through 20 years of urban civil war and aren't easily cowed by thugs roaming the streets, nor do they wish to see civil war again. Furthermore, the current situation doesn't resemble the chaos of the civil war, because as Hezbollah ran through the streets, the Lebanese Army came up behind them to maintain a minimal semblance of order; that Army could still take action, if the political situation clarifies: Lebanon: a Consociate, Not a Democracy.

If this is all Hezbollah has to show - if it undertakes no new initiatives - it is all downhill for Hezbollah from here - they only control what Lebanese are permitting them to control, and that only for the moment. Hezbollah will certainly become increasingly paranoid, maybe even desparate. They are no longer thought of as "The Resistance" by most Lebanese, they have now reduced themselves to just another militia.

I nominate your post for dumbest post of the day. Possibility the week, month and year too.

100 Solomon2  Wed, May 14, 2008 12:48:06pm
Letting Hizballah have their private illegal telecom network, and letting them run Beirut airport security, isn't surrendering?



I nominate your post for dumbest post of the day.

It does sound counterintuitive and stupid, doesn't it? Yet the government never had a chance of enforcing its will before the current crises, and now Hezbollah is negotiating with the "illegal" Lebanese government to get out of this mess. It is a Pyhrric victory, for they are losing wide-spread respect and even some of their political base. They may keep that network for a little while, but I'll bet they won't be able to employ it as they planned! As for airport security, the fellow will keep his post, but the Lebanese Army will be looking over his shoulder.

With their man and their network effectively neutralized, Hezbollah scores a loss.

101 Kenneth  Wed, May 14, 2008 1:12:16pm

re: #88 pegcity

The US is now rushing more weapons & supplies to the Lebanese army. The points I am trying to make are:

1. Don't believe the the propaganda put out by Hezbollah's stooges writing for Reuters.
2. This battle isn't over yet
3. There is more going on than is being reported
4. Read some reliable blogs for a better picture of what is actually happening.
4. Just because the US can't solve all problems immediately, does not mean the US is doing nothing.

102 J.S.  Wed, May 14, 2008 2:36:37pm

CBC "news" has been doing quite a bit of "reporting" on this...(I don't know what's spin and what's not spin...) CBC "news" (from on-the-ground "reporters") claim that 1) The Lebanese army is split -- right down tribal/ethnic/religious lines. That's why the army chiefs would stand by and watch certain buildings burn to the ground -- since to "go in" to put out fires would have expressed a "bias." So, the army stood by and waited...refused to take sides. (Remember, there are elements in the Lebanese army which support Hezbollah -- which does not bode well if the U.S. is providing "assistance" -- that, by definition, could include assistance to Hezbollah supporters). 2) The Druze are also split -- some support the government, some support Hezbollah. 3) with respect to the capitulations to Hezbollah (also under-reported -- is this -- traditionally, the unwritten agreement is that the president is a Christian Maronite, the premier a Sunni Muslim, the speaker of the chamber a Shiite, etc. and these were, by tradition, based on proportional representation -- but, since 2007 there has been no President (the parties cannot agree -- it's supposed to be a Christian Maronite)) the capitulations to Hezbollah could include, not just re-instating the Hezbollah supporter at the airport, and the Hezbollah telecommunications network -- it could include the installation of a pro-Hezbollah president...now, that would be capitulation, big time...4) Supposedly, Hezbollah (due to its "activities" of taking over streets/portions of Beirut, etc.) is losing popular support -- a number of Lebanese are becoming angered with Hezbollah.

103 aaron  Wed, May 14, 2008 6:03:36pm

re: #101 Kenneth

The US is now rushing more weapons & supplies to the Lebanese army. The points I am trying to make are:

The verdict is in and Hizballah is the only force capable of having its way in Lebanon. That means that the next time Hizballah attacks Israel, Israel will respond as though Lebanon is attacking Israel. In terms of the laws of war, this is significant, and will result in much more pain and suffering in Lebanon than occurred in 2006. Anyone in Lebanon who would rather not suffer those consequences is welcome to stand up to Hizballah. Time, however, is running out.

104 jenv  Wed, May 14, 2008 7:24:01pm

re: #4 gop_patriot

They're going to reinstate the airport security chief who is Hezbollah? That's insane.


Anybody else think he's the head of a serious weapons and drug smuggling operation into Europe?


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