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HuffPo: Obama Doesn't Need the Jews Anyway

Wed, May 14, 2008 at 9:47:11 am PDT

Huffington Post “reporter” Sam Stein comes right out and says it: Does Obama Even Need The Jewish Vote?

Does the Jewish vote really matter all that much for the Illinois Democrat? The topic, perhaps surprisingly, carries no clear consensus among some academics and analysts.

There is relative consensus on three reasons why the Jewish vote matters. Despite lacking overall numbers, Jews participate in the political process in large percentages, representing some of the more high-profile activists. They also have, historically, been major fundraisers for both political parties. And they tend to reside — for one reason or another — in some of the country’s most significant “swing states.”

For Obama, two of those three may not be major political concerns. The senator’s ability to drum up grassroots support provides him with a robust activist base, somewhat but not entirely irrespective of opinion makers. And his fundraising apparatus, which relies on more than 1.5 million donors — many of them of the low-dollar variety — means he doesn’t have to lean on major financiers. As one prominent Jewish Democratic fundraiser told The Huffington Post, “Obama doesn’t need me and that isn’t necessarily a bad thing.” Indeed, Obama’s success in bringing in campaign cash, longtime political observers say, has fundamentally altered the relationship between candidate and constituency group.

Wow.

And please note that the administrators at HuffPo have already closed the comments for this one, because they know exactly what will happen if they don’t: a deluge of vicious antisemitic hatred.

(Hat tip: reelcobra.)

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1 thedopefishlives  5/14/08 9:48:28 am reply quote
Indeed, Obama’s success in bringing in campaign cash, longtime political observers say, has fundamentally altered the relationship between candidate and constituency group.

Okay, someone needs to lay off the Kool-aid.

2 MigueldowninMexico  5/14/08 9:48:28 am reply quote

Why? O why? do so many Jews vote Dem?

/Puzzled

3 ggt  5/14/08 9:48:34 am reply quote

ugh!

4 looking closely  5/14/08 9:48:49 am reply quote

Ironic, because the Jews don't need Obama either.

5 JohnnyReb  5/14/08 9:48:57 am reply quote

Well at least he is honest about it. Right?

6 JamesTKirk  5/14/08 9:49:01 am reply quote

Doesn't HuffPo have a script that automatically disables comments for any post containing the word "Jewish"?

7 maddogg  5/14/08 9:49:04 am reply quote

Obama doesn't need the Jewish vote? Damn, this woman is the new standard for how stupid can you be?

8 MrSilverDragon  5/14/08 9:49:37 am reply quote

The ultimate question is, does anybody really need Obama?

9 looking closely  5/14/08 9:49:38 am reply quote

Oh, and I think the Republicans would be MORE than happy to have the Jewish vote, thanks.

10 Ben Hur  5/14/08 9:49:57 am reply quote

300,000 million people in the US.

6 million Joos.

The "Jewish vote" isn't as important to politicians as their shekels are.

11 JamesTKirk  5/14/08 9:50:11 am reply quote

re: #7 maddogg

Obama doesn't need the Jewish vote? Damn, this woman is the new standard for how stupid can you be?

And yet, when push comes to shove, how many of those liberal, secular Jews are going to be able to bring themselves to vote for McCain, breaking a lifetime of conditioning?

12 littleoldlady  5/14/08 9:50:25 am reply quote

Bwahahahaha!

Does that mean we're off the hook? ;-)

/I'm not a racist. (YAY.) I'm just not needed...

13 savage_nation[deleted]  5/14/08 9:50:31 am
14 NoSubmission  5/14/08 9:50:41 am reply quote

I say let the comments begin...

15 Ojoe  5/14/08 9:50:44 am reply quote

robust robot activist base.

16 bosforus  5/14/08 9:51:14 am reply quote

Running out of space under that bus by now aren't you, Obama?

17 Thor-Zone  5/14/08 9:51:16 am reply quote

It's only a matter of time before someone starts calling the Jooos racisits.

18 ggt  5/14/08 9:51:21 am reply quote

Is it too early in the thread to go OT and say I'm off to take my nap?

Have a great day Lizards!

19 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  5/14/08 9:51:31 am reply quote

It should be obvious that the Jewish vote doesn't need Obama.

20 MigueldowninMexico  5/14/08 9:51:36 am reply quote

{littleoldlady}
:)

21 thedopefishlives  5/14/08 9:51:46 am reply quote

I'm still amused that they think he doesn't need major financiers. Isn't that how the entire Daley political machine is run?

22 MandyManners  5/14/08 9:51:49 am reply quote

When will JustMyView pop up its muddled head here?

23 Ben Hur  5/14/08 9:51:56 am reply quote

Free yourself from the shackles of the Jewish vote.

BBL

24 looking closely  5/14/08 9:51:58 am reply quote

re: #10 Ben Hur

300,000 million people in the US.

6 million Joos.

The "Jewish vote" isn't as important to politicians as their shekels are.

Apart from the dollars and organization, the reason the Jewish vote has been important historically, is that Jews tend to live in swing states.

What happens to Mr. Obama if he loses Florida, for example?

25 The Other Les  5/14/08 9:52:11 am reply quote

re: #15 Ojoe

robust robot activist base.

"By your command!"

26 MandyManners  5/14/08 9:52:23 am reply quote

re: #16 bosforus

Running out of space under that bus by now aren't you, Obama?

The Part of the Big Bus.

27 MigueldowninMexico  5/14/08 9:52:24 am reply quote

One vertient of this, is pandering to Hamas et al.

28 Ben Hur  5/14/08 9:52:45 am reply quote

re: #24 looking closely

Apart from the dollars and organization, the reason the Jewish vote has been important historically, is that Jews tend to live in swing states.

What happens to Mr. Obama if he loses Florida, for example?


G-dama is going to win all 57 states.

bbl!

29 seekeroftruth  5/14/08 9:53:15 am reply quote

I hope this gets circulated via grassroots emails and reaches a lot of folks out there.

30 JammieWearingFool  5/14/08 9:53:23 am reply quote

He doesn't need the Jewish money since it's flowing in from Gaza already.

Good luck with that strategery.

31 Thor-Zone  5/14/08 9:53:40 am reply quote
Running out of space under that bus by now aren't you, Obama?

Nope, he just put bigger tires on it.

32 maddogg  5/14/08 9:54:38 am reply quote

re: #11 JamesTKirk

And yet, when push comes to shove, how many of those liberal, secular Jews are going to be able to bring themselves to vote for McCain, breaking a lifetime of conditioning?

I have no idea, as I know too many lifelong Democrats who still think the Democratic party is the party it was when FDR fought WWII and Harry Truman dropped the bomb. They refuse to acknowledge that like Zell Miller, the party has left them behind, and no longer represents them, but actually looks down its elitist nose at them as rubes.

Makes me sick, and pisses me off.

33 JamesTKirk  5/14/08 9:54:49 am reply quote

re: #10 Ben Hur

300,000 million people in the US.

6 million Joos.

The "Jewish vote" isn't as important to politicians as their shekels are.

Florida has 750,000 Jews, and I seem to recall an election in Florida where that number was far more than the margin of difference between the two candidates.

3-5% of Ohio are Jews, another swing state.

And so on...

34 NoSubmission  5/14/08 9:55:38 am reply quote

The photo of Obama they posted the picture of arrogance.

35 savage_nation[deleted]  5/14/08 9:55:39 am
36 Sharmuta  5/14/08 9:55:49 am reply quote
HuffPo: Obama Doesn't Need the Jews Anyway

Yeah- the "constant sore" comment kind of gave that away.

37 kynna  5/14/08 9:55:54 am reply quote

I just saw the news about a rocket from Gaza hitting a shopping center in Israel. Will anyone on the left condemn this atrocity?

How can they look themselves in the mirror? How can they call others bigots and racists when they where that very thing on their own sleeves?

This is so disgusting. What a crummy start to the day.

Not LGF, of course. That's the only good part. If it weren't for this site I wouldn't hear about any of this info.

38 Blueroom127  5/14/08 9:56:18 am reply quote

"lets throw the jews out and keep their money even if we don't need it. We don't need jews" seems to be the next logical step in that reasoning.

Progressive thought seems to run like this: We don't like Jews, We don't want Jews - coming soon - we won't tolerate any jews here.

NEVER FORGET

39 The Other Les  5/14/08 9:56:22 am reply quote

re: #16 bosforus

Running out of space under that bus by now aren't you, Obama?

Not if the bus is this big:

40 bosforus  5/14/08 9:56:25 am reply quote

re: #35 savage_nation

Don't get wet!

41 Charles  5/14/08 9:56:38 am reply quote

Notice that the author, Sam Stein, is a graduate of Columbia Journalism School.

42 littleoldlady  5/14/08 9:56:47 am reply quote

re: #2 MigueldowninMexico

Why? O why? do so many Jews vote Dem?

/Puzzled

Remember my prediction of a few weeks ago?

We're getting closer.

43 kynna  5/14/08 9:57:12 am reply quote

re: #37 kynna

I just saw the news about a rocket from Gaza hitting a shopping center in Israel. Will anyone on the left condemn this atrocity?

How can they look themselves in the mirror? How can they call others bigots and racists when they where that very thing on their own sleeves?

This is so disgusting. What a crummy start to the day.

Not LGF, of course. That's the only good part. If it weren't for this site I wouldn't hear about any of this info.

'wear' not 'where'

Oopsy! *blushing*

44 JamesTKirk  5/14/08 9:57:15 am reply quote

re: #17 Thor-Zone

It's only a matter of time before someone starts calling the Jooos racisits.

That would be the UN's famous "Zionism¹ equals racism" proclamation.

¹The word "Zionism" is used by people who want to slander Jews without actually using the word "Jew", thus allowing them to deny that they are anti-Semites.

45 Roger  5/14/08 9:57:48 am reply quote

Perhaps Barry should throw out the inconsequential insert-your-ethnicity-here vote too.

46 Thor-Zone  5/14/08 9:57:59 am reply quote

re: #41 Charles

Notice that the author, Sam Stein, is a graduate of Columbia Journalism School.

No surprises here!

47 Ackomanyuki  5/14/08 9:58:14 am reply quote

Does this mean the on eighth Jewish part of me that is not voting for Obama is exempt from being a racist now?

48 MigueldowninMexico  5/14/08 9:58:32 am reply quote

re: #42 littleoldlady

Remember my prediction of a few weeks ago?

49 CyanSnowHawk  5/14/08 9:58:33 am reply quote

re: #24 looking closely

Apart from the dollars and organization, the reason the Jewish vote has been important historically, is that Jews tend to live in swing states.

What happens to Mr. Obama if he loses Florida, for example?

I think you can count on FL going Republican this year. All McCain has to do is repeatedly bring up the way that the DNC rejected their primary, and that they were instrumental in selecting him as the Republican Candidate.

50 NR Pax  5/14/08 9:59:07 am reply quote

I would think that a candidate would need all the votes they can get to earn a majority that puts them in office. But I guess that's my bitter-gun-and-religion-clinging viewpoint rearing its head again.

51 looking closely  5/14/08 9:59:09 am reply quote

re: #33 JamesTKirk

Florida has 750,000 Jews, and I seem to recall an election in Florida where that number was far more than the margin of difference between the two candidates.

3-5% of Ohio are Jews, another swing state.

And so on...

2.8% of the electorate in Pennsylvania are Jews, and like Florida, its a critical swing state.

52 Alouette  5/14/08 9:59:19 am reply quote

Jews do not vote as a monolithic unit.

53 bosforus  5/14/08 9:59:29 am reply quote

re: #39 The Other Les

Not if the bus is this big:

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Ha ha, what movie is that?

54 littleoldlady  5/14/08 9:59:32 am reply quote

re: #48 MigueldowninMexico

What was Reagan's (historically high) percentage of the Jewish vote? 40%?

55 reelcobra  5/14/08 9:59:49 am reply quote

I found this early this AM right as it came out, and tried to comment (I love snarking the morons at HuffPo. They have no irony detection ability, so I make fatally defective arguments in "support" of BHO as I call him and they usually agree.)

Here, I wrote, and write, that if this whole run by Obama is not a wake up call to American Jews that the Dem Party is nothing more than the party of racial and gender entitlement and grievence, Amrican Jews are, well, idiots.

Sad to say.

56 maddogg  5/14/08 10:00:33 am reply quote

I'm waiting for Huffpo to post that Obama doesn't need the racist Southern vote either.

57 MigueldowninMexico  5/14/08 10:00:38 am reply quote

re: #54 littleoldlady

What was Reagan's (historically high) percentage of the Jewish vote? 40%?

38% if I recall correctly.

58 experiencedtraveller  5/14/08 10:00:57 am reply quote

Final results of Jewish-American voting in 2008 will be:

70% Obama (unless Hillary eats him then she get the 70%)
30% McCain

59 coquimbojoe  5/14/08 10:01:29 am reply quote

But, we are racist because we might vote for someone other than Obama? Does. Not. Compute.

60 lawhawk  5/14/08 10:01:32 am reply quote

I've got a better one:

America doesn't need Obama.

61 JamesTKirk  5/14/08 10:01:45 am reply quote

re: #50 NR Pax

I would think that a candidate would need all the votes they can get to earn a majority that puts them in office.

Only if they're going for the popular vote, which doesn't matter unless you're a disgruntled Al Gore fanatic. As long as you win enough big states by 50%+1 votes, you don't need a single vote in the remaining states.

62 Thor-Zone  5/14/08 10:01:49 am reply quote

re: #58 experiencedtraveller

Final results of

63 NoSubmission  5/14/08 10:02:01 am reply quote
64 JamesTKirk  5/14/08 10:02:17 am reply quote

re: #52 Alouette

Jews do not vote as a monolithic unit.

Near enough that the Dems generally take them for granted.

65 coquimbojoe  5/14/08 10:02:36 am reply quote

re: #54 littleoldlady

What was Reagan's (historically high) percentage of the Jewish vote? 40%?

We got LOL and Miguel and Storage Manager her this morning! Wow a meeting of the night lizards!

66 The Other Les  5/14/08 10:02:37 am reply quote

re: #53 bosforus

Ha ha, what movie is that?

The Big Bus.

[Link: www.imdb.com...]

67 experiencedtraveller  5/14/08 10:02:38 am reply quote

re: #54 littleoldlady

What was Reagan's (historically high) percentage of the Jewish vote? 40%?

38%

68 looking closely  5/14/08 10:02:39 am reply quote

re: #49 CyanSnowHawk

Nothing is a given, but I think McCain has a good shot in FL, yes.

If he also takes PA, that's literally most of the contest right there.

Ohio isn't a particularly Jewish state, but it will be a critically important one.

69 looking closely  5/14/08 10:03:30 am reply quote

re: #54 littleoldlady

What was Reagan's (historically high) percentage of the Jewish vote? 40%?

Near there, but you have to remember, he was running against Carter!

70 littleoldlady  5/14/08 10:03:48 am reply quote

re: #57 MigueldowninMexico

38% if I recall correctly.

My prediction (Mr. Senior Senor Moment ;-) was that McCain would get Reaganesque numbers if Obama was the nominee.

71 MigueldowninMexico  5/14/08 10:04:21 am reply quote

A newspaper in Mexico City says today that Of course! Hillary won West Virginia, a State where most people are white.

Lots of people are trying to spin the whole thing as a racist issue.

Escuse me, but I'll insist that in Bolivia it is not a racial thing. Morales has already demanded an overhaul of society to make it a socialist country. Goes well beyond race.

72 Alouette  5/14/08 10:04:26 am reply quote

re: #64 JamesTKirk

Near enough that the Dems generally take them for granted.

That's true now but the demographics are changing. The liberal, leftist secular Jews do not have many offspring, but the conservative, right-wing Orthodox Jews do.

73 chinesearithmetic  5/14/08 10:04:30 am reply quote

The senator’s ability to drum up grassroots support provides him with a robust activist base

He should hope for better things in the Bluegrass State, which made West Virginia the Nograss State I guess

74 ishabibble  5/14/08 10:04:44 am reply quote

re: #21 thedopefishlives

I'm still amused that they think he doesn't need major financiers. Isn't that how the entire Daley political machine is run?


Barry is awash with money from the Internet. Given the story here yesterday about the Pali phone banks for Barry, why doesn't the intrepid NYT or WaPo find out just exactly how many of those millions are coming from overseas, specifically the ME?

Team You'reallracists has started backing away from the 84 million dollar campaign deal that they had earlier agreed to, mainly because they are getting so much more from the net. Who is donating that money and where is it coming from?

75 MigueldowninMexico  5/14/08 10:04:45 am reply quote

re: #65 coquimbojoe

We got LOL and Miguel and Storage Manager her this morning! Wow a meeting of the night lizards!

That's right! LOL
Reverie...

76 bosforus  5/14/08 10:05:02 am reply quote

re: #66 The Other Les

The Big Bus.

[Link: www.imdb.com...]

Not exactly the kind of movie where a lot of thought has to be put into the title. I'd probably like it.

77 CyanSnowHawk  5/14/08 10:05:03 am reply quote

re: #68 looking closely

Nothing is a given, but I think McCain has a good shot in FL, yes.

If he also takes PA, that's literally most of the contest right there.

Ohio isn't a particularly Jewish state, but it will be a critically important one.

I am assuming that McCain doesn't really put his foot into it before Nov. Never a safe bet in politics, I know.

78 offendi  5/14/08 10:05:13 am reply quote

The in-the-tank-for-Obama media are getting their talking points.

The Obama brain trust have no clue as to how to reverse Obama's decline in the "white" vote, especially as more racially divisive information may come out.

They also understand that Obama's associations and abysmal handling of his own Israel issue presents a very clear wedge with American Jewish voters, and more importantly American Jewish contributors. So why not attempt to discount their need for Jewish support? Otherwise the repeated concern over his being "soft" on Israel won't go away.

To say Obama will get the youth vote is amusing, since the democrats tried that one with Kerry, raising the need to renew the draft due to Iraq, etc.. Went nowhere.

African-Americans may come out in huge numbers for Obama, but it can't replace or overcome the white voters he has already alienated.

79 MigueldowninMexico  5/14/08 10:05:34 am reply quote

re: #70 littleoldlady

My prediction (Mr. Senior Senor Moment ;-) was that McCain would get Reaganesque numbers if Obama was the nominee.

Yes, I remember that!
Well it's a couple of points behind!
You're a sage littleoldlady.
This is not the first time ;)

80 Thor-Zone  5/14/08 10:05:40 am reply quote

re: #70 littleoldlady

My prediction (Mr. Senior Senor Moment ;-) was that McCain would get Reaganesque numbers if Obama was the nominee.

I can see that, but don't forget the media is in the tank for Obama. That means the millions of mind numbed liberals and democrats may still vote Obama.

81 littleoldlady  5/14/08 10:06:11 am reply quote

re: #65 coquimbojoe

JOE! :-)

82 billhedrick  5/14/08 10:06:16 am reply quote

please B_O, eschew the Jews and White males. build a coalition without them

83 ploome hineni  5/14/08 10:06:37 am reply quote

re: #2 MigueldowninMexico

Why? O why? do so many Jews vote Dem?

/Puzzled

tikkun olam

a sincere responsibility and need to help others, to repair the world

84 jemima  5/14/08 10:07:05 am reply quote

"Screw the Jews. They never were interested in the Civil Rights Movement"

/channeling Michelle

85 Annar  5/14/08 10:07:13 am reply quote

If Honorary Imam Obama is in office come January, Israel will really be alone. In an effort to encourage peace in our times our fearless leader will offer immigration visas to the Jews of Israel and to the Christians along with some Sunnis in Lebanon. The resulting Pax aeterna will leave Hamas in charge of the new Palestine, Lebanon as either an independent Shi'a Islamic state or a province of Syria. The front will then move to Turkey where the secular government will be overthrown and then on to the construction of Eurabia.

But then again, Israel may fight if Netanyahu gets elected before the Obama peace offensive begins.

86 littleoldlady  5/14/08 10:07:24 am reply quote

re: #69 looking closely

Near there, but you have to remember, he was running against Carter!

History repeats itself. ;-)

87 MigueldowninMexico  5/14/08 10:07:54 am reply quote

re: #83 ploome hineni

tikkun olam

a sincere responsibility and need to help others, to repair the world

But thats a false optic, ploomie.
Liberals are not the only ones who "care".
And liberals are usually anti-Israel.
You know the roster.

88 looking closely  5/14/08 10:08:29 am reply quote

re: #72 Alouette

That's true now but the demographics are changing. The liberal, leftist secular Jews do not have many offspring, but the conservative, right-wing Orthodox Jews do.

Since when are Orthodox Jews politically conservative?

That's news to me. AFAIK, they're 90%+ Democrats.

Also Orthodox Jews make up only about 10% of American Jewry (which are only about 2% of the American electorate), meaning their impact is particularly muted.

89 seekeroftruth  5/14/08 10:08:33 am reply quote

re: #74 ishabibble

Barry is awash with money from the Internet. Given the story here yesterday about the Pali phone banks for Barry, why doesn't the intrepid NYT or WaPo find out just exactly how many of those millions are coming from overseas, specifically the ME?

Team You'reallracists has started backing away from the 84 million dollar campaign deal that they had earlier agreed to, mainly because they are getting so much more from the net. Who is donating that money and where is it coming from?

I want to know that too........

90 Alouette  5/14/08 10:08:40 am reply quote

re: #83 ploome hineni

tikkun olam

a sincere misguided responsibility and need to help others, to repair the world

91 roguejew  5/14/08 10:08:44 am reply quote

I guess it's a good thing I didn't plan on voting for the racist schmuck anyway!

92 Russkilitlover  5/14/08 10:08:59 am reply quote

re: #21 thedopefishlives

I'm still amused that they think he doesn't need major financiers. Isn't that how the entire Daley political machine is run?

I always thought the Chi-Town machine was laundered money distributed through many tiny resources to obfuscate.

93 Sharmuta  5/14/08 10:09:17 am reply quote

re: #82 billhedrick

please B_O, eschew the Jews and White males. build a coalition without them

Better add the women too- just to make sure it's not sexist.

94 Kosh's Shadow  5/14/08 10:09:28 am reply quote

Don't have time to read all the comments, but
does HuffPo think the US needs Jews at all?
Why do I think they wish we'd leave. Only they wouldn't give us anyplace to go.

95 NoSubmission  5/14/08 10:09:47 am reply quote

Imagine the damage he could do if he wins in November...

96 looking closely  5/14/08 10:10:07 am reply quote

re: #83 ploome hineni

tikkun olam

a sincere responsibility and need to help others, to repair the world

Good reason to vote Republican, IMO.

This is my explanation why Jews usually vote Republican.

97 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  5/14/08 10:10:26 am reply quote

re: #60 lawhawk

I've got a better one:

America doesn't need Obama.

America didn't land on Obama, Obama landed on us.

98 MigueldowninMexico  5/14/08 10:10:33 am reply quote

re: #95 NoSubmission

Imagine the damage he could do if he wins in November...

The temperature went down like 30 degress when I read that.

Suddenly, I'm trembling...

99 Alouette  5/14/08 10:11:03 am reply quote

re: #88 looking closely


Also Orthodox Jews make up only about 10% of American Jewry (which are only about 2% of the American electorate), meaning their impact is particularly muted.

40 years ago Orthodox Jews made up only 5% of American Jewry. They are raising families of 8-10 kids while the liberal denominations are assimilating, contracepting, intermarrying, aborting and gaying themselves into extinction.

100 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  5/14/08 10:12:17 am reply quote

re: #95 NoSubmission

Imagine the damage he could do if he wins in November...

Kragaristan is looking better and better.

101 looking closely  5/14/08 10:13:29 am reply quote

re: #86 littleoldlady

History repeats itself. ;-)

Not yet.

Don't forget that 71% of the Jewish vote went to Carter in 1976.

I'd expect 40% of Jews to vote against Obama AFTER his first term (ie after most of the damage is done), but not before.

102 Thor-Zone  5/14/08 10:13:37 am reply quote

re: #95 NoSubmission

Imagine the damage he could do if he wins in November...

Truly frightening.

103 onslow  5/14/08 10:15:22 am reply quote

re: #41 Charles

Pat Buchanan is another distinguished alumni of Columbia University's Graduate School of Journalism.

104 roguejew  5/14/08 10:15:24 am reply quote

I imagine that the more he talks about Israel being a festering sore, the more Jews may turn against him in November...This putz is functionally Unable to keep his foot out of his mouth.

105 thedopefishlives  5/14/08 10:15:39 am reply quote

re: #92 Russkilitlover

Yes, exactly. Technically, behind the scenes it's big financiers. It just looks like "grassroots support" to keep it under the radar.

106 maddogg  5/14/08 10:15:51 am reply quote

So, the actual campaign has not even started against McCain, and the Obama shills are already playing the race card. Does that not hint at desperation?

107 NoSubmission  5/14/08 10:16:03 am reply quote

re: #102 Thor-Zone

Truly frightening.


Indeed. Really think hard about it.
Our enemies rejoicing. Chaos and confusion. Daily gaffes and hasty scrambles to recover stupidity uttered at the Presidential podium. It just goes on and on..

108 republic  5/14/08 10:16:18 am reply quote

Barack Hussein Obama: "I've been to 57 states, with a couple more to go"

Sheesh!

109 wolfie  5/14/08 10:16:33 am reply quote

re: #71 MigueldowninMexico

A newspaper in Mexico City says today that Of course! Hillary won West Virginia, a State where most people are white.

Lots of people are trying to spin the whole thing as a racist issue.

Escuse me, but I'll insist that in Bolivia it is not a racial thing. Morales has already demanded an overhaul of society to make it a socialist country. Goes well beyond race.

Agreed. My Bolivian cousin is married to a full-blooded Aymara, and they both can't stand Morales. They have a store in La Paz and their views are typical of shopkeepers there, regardless of race. Although they are andenos, mountain people, they are rooting for Santa Cruz and other lowland states against Morales.
Racism is different there from what it is in the US. It has a lot to do with class. Someone here said that to call someone a "cholo" is like using the N word. It is NOT. I can't think of an English equivalent, but "redneck" comes close.
(My mother is a boliviana....now naturalized American...I was born and raised there.)

110 NoSubmission  5/14/08 10:17:19 am reply quote

Okay. Now imagine him re-elected!

111 CIA Reject  5/14/08 10:17:48 am reply quote

re: #107 NoSubmission

Indeed. Really think hard about it.
Our enemies rejoicing. Chaos and confusion. Daily gaffes and hasty scrambles to recover stupidity uttered at the Presidential podium. It just goes on and on..

It will be a national version of the David Dinkins administration- for all of you our there who were lucky enough to have avoided having to live first hand through that...

112 ploome hineni  5/14/08 10:17:55 am reply quote

re: #87 MigueldowninMexico

But thats a false optic, ploomie.
Liberals are not the only ones who "care".
And liberals are usually anti-Israel.
You know the roster.

no
when a Jews abandons the last practice associated with Judiasm, what remains is a secular humanism

are you aware that almost every single city has a 'Jewish' hospital? think about that.......2% of the population? ..how do they do it?

what does this have to do with ISrael?

113 republic  5/14/08 10:18:13 am reply quote