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Lebanese Government Really Is Capitulating

Wed, May 14, 2008 at 3:02:09 pm PST

I’ve seen quite a few blog posts arguing that this development is a loss for Hizballah, but I don’t see it. Hizballah comes out of this stronger, not weaker, with an illegal communications network that is reportedly capable of eavesdropping on all telephone calls in Lebanon, and their man in charge of security at Beirut Airport. This is a win for Hizballah, not the Lebanese government: Lebanon cancels anti-Hezbollah measures.

BEIRUT (Reuters) - Lebanon’s government cancelled measures on Wednesday that angered the Iranian-backed Hezbollah movement and triggered the worst internal conflict since the country’s 1975-90 civil war.

The U.S.-backed government of Prime Minister Fouad Siniora said in a statement after a meeting that it was taking the step in line with a request by the Lebanese army to preserve civil peace and promote an Arab League mediation effort to end Lebanon’s 18-month-old political crisis.

“The cabinet decided to agree on the suggestion of the army commander ... which includes the cancellation of the two decisions,” the statement, read by Information Minister Ghazi al-Aridi, said.

A senior opposition source welcomed the move. “We welcome the government’s step and we see that it forms the prelude to end our disobedience campaign,” he told Reuters.

The source said the opposition would end the disobedience campaign once the ruling coalition agrees to talks. He said such an announcement was expected on Thursday.

Shortly after Aridi read the statement, Hezbollah supporters fired into the air in Beirut to celebrate what the group sees as a major blow to the government and its allies.

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#1 galloping granny 5/14/08 3:03:40 pm 1

I saw this earlier and thought exactly the same - Hizballah is now in charge of Lebanon.

#2 DesertSage 5/14/08 3:03:59 pm 0

Obama should go over there and 'talk' to the immediately!

#3 pat 5/14/08 3:04:05 pm 9

This will be a dangerous times for Christians.

#4 Kenneth 5/14/08 3:04:29 pm 0

OK, it's official, the Lebanese gov't did back down:
Government officially revokes decisions

The Lebanese government on Wednesday night announced it would revoke the two decisions that sparked the worst sectarian violence to harass Lebanon since the civil war between 1975 and 1990.

On Tuesday, May 6, the cabinet announced it would open a probe into a private Hezbollah network and would reassign head of airport security Brigadier General Wafiq Chouqair based on allegations of his tie to Hezbollah.

Hezbollah Secretary General Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah had previously said he regarded the moves as a declaration of war and the ensuing sectarian fighting between rival supporters left at least 65 people dead and 200 wounded, according to AFP.

Around 11:00 p.m. on Wednesday, May 14, Information Minister Ghazi Aridi said the government would back down on the decisions in accordance with an Army Command’s statement, which stated that the military would take control of the probe and would question Chouqair but not reassign him.

“There is no winner in what happened, but there is a loser and that is Lebanon,” Aridi stated.

But this fight is not over yet... more to come in the next few days. Still too early to declare Hezbollah the winner.

#5 zombie 5/14/08 3:04:51 pm 3

Get ready for the Hezbollah vs Israel War II.

Wouldn't want to be Hezbollah this time around.

#6 Whiterasta 5/14/08 3:05:22 pm 4

Appeasement always works. Ask Nevile Chamberlain and Jimmah Cattah.

#7 stead63 5/14/08 3:06:02 pm 0

Israel wont take this well...

#8 VegasRick 5/14/08 3:06:30 pm 8

re: #3 pat

This will be a dangerous times for Christians.

This will be a dangerous times for Christians humans.

#9 Tarkus289 5/14/08 3:06:40 pm 0

re: #5 zombie

I'd love to say I agree with you, but I'll believe it when I see it.

/Hope you are right

#10 Irene NYC 5/14/08 3:06:59 pm 0

Ralph Peters has already called this a hugh Hizballah win.

#11 stead63 5/14/08 3:07:09 pm 0

Should we thank Yimmah Cartah for help in this one?

#12 bosforus 5/14/08 3:07:22 pm 0

Increased communication abilities is always a plus for anyone.

#13 Whiterasta 5/14/08 3:07:52 pm 2

re: #5 zombie

Why ever not, Zombie? The Israelis will kick them around the block. The UN will step in. The media will go berserk and Israel will back off.

Again.

#14 Irene NYC 5/14/08 3:08:01 pm 0

For Israel to really take Hizballah down, Olmert has to go.

#15 Tarkus289 5/14/08 3:08:19 pm 5

The whole planet is a house of cards, we are just waiting for it to fall.

#16 Ward Cleaver 5/14/08 3:08:32 pm 1

Shortly after Aridi read the statement, Hezbollah supporters fired into the air in Beirut to celebrate what the group sees as a major blow to the government and its allies.

Hizballah sure has a funny way of mourning a setback. Yep.

/blink

#17 jcm 5/14/08 3:08:46 pm 0

The Iran-Syria axis is making a play and succeeding in a play for Lebanon. Iran made it's play and won in Gaza. Israel now has Iranian controlled entities on both N. and S. borders.

Bad juju mon.

#18 galloping granny 5/14/08 3:08:58 pm 0

Wow! Barrack Hussein Obama has suddenly become a Christian and he is advertising it in Kentucky. See here -

[Link: hotair.com...]

#19 Kenneth 5/14/08 3:09:07 pm 0

re: #14 Irene NYC

From your lips...

#20 WrathofG-d 5/14/08 3:10:20 pm 0

Ot:

and from the other armistace line: "terrorists"

sorry for ot so soon.

#21 MikeySDCA 5/14/08 3:10:20 pm 3

The army's role in all of this is very puzzling. Am I the only paranoid who smells a hint of military coup?

#22 Tarkus289 5/14/08 3:10:24 pm 0

I wish Israel could figure out a way to make those celebratory bullets
return to earth with deadly force. That would be poetic.

#23 Kenneth 5/14/08 3:10:33 pm 0

re: #18 galloping granny

Wow! Barrack Hussein Obama has suddenly become a Christian and he is advertising it in Kentucky. See here -

[Link: hotair.com...]

You mean a real honest-to-goodness Christian? Or an "Issa-was-a-Muslim" kind of Christian?

#24 VegasRick 5/14/08 3:11:23 pm 5

re: #13 Whiterasta

Why ever not, Zombie? The Israelis will kick them around the block. The UN will step in. The media will go berserk and Israel will back off.

Again.

Israel should tell the world (including us if necessary) to fuck off and mind their own business. They are being attacked daily by these murderers, what would we (USA) do if Canada or Mexico did this same type of thing to us?

#25 stead63 5/14/08 3:11:31 pm 1

re: #23 Kenneth

You mean a real honest-to-goodness Christian? Or an "Issa-was-a-Muslim" kind of Christian?

What day is it? I think his religious views flop more than John Kerry.

#26 Kenneth 5/14/08 3:12:06 pm 1

re: #21 MikeySDCA

Hezbollah has some of there people in the military. Not all the military, but some of it. There are also other factions, Chrsitians, Druze & Sunni who have sallied with Hezbollah from time to time. Lebanon is incredibly factionalized.

#27 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) 5/14/08 3:12:10 pm 0
The U.S.-backed government of Prime Minister Fouad Siniora said in a statement after a meeting that it was taking the step in line with a request by the Lebanese army to preserve civil peace and promote an Arab League mediation effort to end Lebanon’s 18-month-old political crisis.

I.E. surrender. Say hello to another Syria/Iran.

#28 Eagle 5/14/08 3:12:55 pm 0

So the cedar falls?

I just wish the MSM would call this what it is. A coup. Enough with the "government forces" fight "opposition forces" crap.

#29 galloping granny 5/14/08 3:13:23 pm 0

re: #23 Kenneth

You mean a real honest-to-goodness Christian? Or an "Issa-was-a-Muslim" kind of Christian?

Charles should grab the Kentucky ad. Make a great thread. Complete with a cross and a brand new slogan. Faith. Hope. Change.

#30 Tarkus289 5/14/08 3:14:10 pm 0

re: #28 Eagle

You forgot "American backed"

#31 WrathofG-d 5/14/08 3:14:30 pm 0

-- Believe it or not, its all in Jewish prophecy

#32 Nevergiveup 5/14/08 3:14:34 pm 1

re: #21 MikeySDCA

The army's role in all of this is very puzzling. Am I the only paranoid who smells a hint of military coup?

The new head of the Lebanese Army id in bed with Hizballah.

#33 LeftJustAintRight 5/14/08 3:14:35 pm 2

Iran has Annexed the Whole Middle East Region
As soon as POTUS Obama withdraws the troops they will take Iraq
Ans Israel will be screwed

#34 Fat Jolly Penguin 5/14/08 3:14:52 pm 0

re: #28 Eagle

So the cedar falls?

I just wish the MSM would call this what it is. A coup. Enough with the "government forces" fight "opposition forces" crap.

They have a new one. In the article, some "senior opposition source" called it a "disobedience campaign."

#35 WrathofG-d 5/14/08 3:15:00 pm 0

re: #33 LeftJustAintRight

see 31

#36 MikeySDCA 5/14/08 3:15:23 pm 0

re: #26 Kenneth

Yes, indeed, but it looks like the army as an institution is dictating policy after doing nothing to stop the violence.

#37 stevieray 5/14/08 3:15:27 pm 3

Iran now controls much of Lebanon. The ball is in the Saudi's court, they will have to step up or step aside.

#38 LeftJustAintRight 5/14/08 3:15:55 pm 3

I think revelations is becoming reality

#39 stead63 5/14/08 3:16:12 pm 0

re: #31 WrathofG-d

-- Believe it or not, its all in Jewish prophecy

all we are lacking is russia to make a move and the US to deny them...which will happen if Obama-bin Floppin gets the office.

#40 WrathofG-d 5/14/08 3:16:40 pm 1
#41 shibumi 5/14/08 3:17:17 pm 0

re: #17 jcm

The Iran-Syria axis is making a play and succeeding in a play for Lebanon. Iran made it's play and won in Gaza. Israel now has Iranian controlled entities on both N. and S. borders.

Bad juju mon.

Other part of the story?

Iran now has American controlled entitles on both their E. and W. borders.

#42 OldLineTexan 5/14/08 3:17:20 pm 0

re: #24 VegasRick

In a word, nothing.

We have had cross-border incursions by Mexican military vehicles manned by people in Mexican military uniforms and done nothing.

Whole sections of Mexico are basically run by drug cartels who do "business" in the US with impunity. Anybody in the local levels of Mexican government that doesn't like it has an "accident".

And a heroic US Attorney in Texas has a grand track record of prosecuting US Border Patrol Agents rather than the dope dealers they are chasing.

#43 freebird100 5/14/08 3:17:22 pm 6

I read a comment by Caroline Glick I think it was that really made sense. Hizbullah does not want to do away with the Lebanese government because they are their fig leaf for legitimacy with the international community. For instance, during Israel's war last summer, it was the Lebanese government's pleadings with the US to put pressure on Israel that resulted in Israel sparing many legitimate and critical military targets that affected the outcome of the war. I recommend you find Caroline's article The End of Lebanon at Jpost.com.

#44 LeftJustAintRight 5/14/08 3:17:32 pm 1

December 21 2012
I did not really believe in it but I may have to do some research

#45 WrathofG-d 5/14/08 3:18:04 pm 0

re: #44 LeftJustAintRight

12/12/2012

#46 LeftJustAintRight 5/14/08 3:19:08 pm 0

re: #45 WrathofG-d

Thanks
Do you think there is any merit ?

#47 stead63 5/14/08 3:19:17 pm 1

re: #45 WrathofG-d


cant say that I believe that...not to say its far off from that but thats a bold statement against Revelations that claims that "no one knows the day or time."

#48 aboo-Hoo-Hoo 5/14/08 3:19:52 pm 0

Looks like the Arab's are caving into the Mullah's(good luck askholes): Rafsanjani Meets Saudi Envoy

Meanwhile, the world is over-supplied with oil and Iran is leasing super-tankers for storage: Iran Charters Ships For Crude Oil Storage - Senior Official

In fact: Iran Confirms Supertanker for 90-Day Crude Storage

Pretty cool, huh? The 'market' at work.

#49 bosforus 5/14/08 3:19:57 pm -1

re: #44 LeftJustAintRight

December 21 2012
I did not really believe in it but I may have to do some research

Many people, my father included, are keeping a close eye on that date.

#50 wolfie 5/14/08 3:20:07 pm 1

re: #33 LeftJustAintRight

Iran has Annexed the Whole Middle East Region
As soon as POTUS Obama withdraws the troops they will take Iraq
Ans Israel will be screwed

Carter handed Iran over to the mullahs.
Obama will hand over the rest.
Inexperienced, naive posers, loaded with anti-semitic connections. ..
Consumed with a sense of their own moral superiority to the rest of us.

#51 shibumi 5/14/08 3:21:01 pm 2

re: #44 LeftJustAintRight

December 21 2012
I did not really believe in it but I may have to do some research

I've done some superficial research into this, and if I recall correctly (this was a while ago), most of the information regarding this topic traces directly back to the History Channel special, which makes it a bit less credible I think.

#52 WrathofG-d 5/14/08 3:21:40 pm 0

re: #46 LeftJustAintRight

re: #47 stead63

I believe that when one looks at what is going on in the world there is merit to the Jewish prophecy of an end-of-days.

As to when it will be exactly.....NO. I would never bet on an exact day. I was just stating that the Mayan calendar (as does other unrelated calanders) ends on 12/12/2012.

History Channel has a very good program on the End Of Days from multiple sources.

#53 buzzsawmonkey 5/14/08 3:22:37 pm 2

I feel bad for all those hot girls in Lebanon T-shirts who were cavorting over the withdrawal of the Syrians. Big Hezbo is not going to like their look.

#54 jcm 5/14/08 3:23:06 pm 0

re: #41 shibumi

Other part of the story?

Iran now has American controlled entitles on both their E. and W. borders.

Dat true.

But is there the will to use 'em.

Right now if GWB so much as looks dirty at Dinnerjacket, congress and the MSM have meltdowns.

#56 stead63 5/14/08 3:23:41 pm 2

re: #52 WrathofG-d

I give plenty of merit to the possibility of it happening due to the way of the world currently but this has been a re-occuring thing for thousands of years. It's just more publisized this time around.

#57 nyc redneck 5/14/08 3:23:43 pm 0

barak hussein showed up in cape giradeau, mo. yesterday, w/, of all things, a flag pin on his lapel. (he thinks we're stupid, that idiot)

#58 Gumby 5/14/08 3:23:51 pm 0

re: #25 stead63

What day is it? I think his religious views flop more than John Kerry.

Must be tough being all things to all people....

#59 hayseed 5/14/08 3:24:04 pm 0

OT......the baby killers back obama

#60 song_and_dance_man 5/14/08 3:24:13 pm 1

re: #52 WrathofG-d

re: #47 stead63

I believe that when one looks at what is going on in the world there is merit to the Jewish prophecy of an end-of-days.

As to when it will be exactly.....NO. I would never bet on an exact day. I was just stating that the Mayan calendar (as does other unrelated calanders) ends on 12/12/2012.

History Channel has a very good program on the End Of Days from multiple sources.

I know you are Jewish, but there are many prophecies in the newer writings, known as the new testament, that support the prophecies of old. And not only that I believe that God still speaks to his servants in the here and now.

I'm with you that we are the end of this age with the time of wrath and Jacobs trouble just around the corner.

#61 Nevergiveup 5/14/08 3:24:43 pm 0

re: #54 jcm

Dat true.

But is there the will to use 'em.

Right now if GWB so much as looks dirty at Dinnerjacket, congress and the MSM have meltdowns.

Well the only thing we have going for us is that with only 6 & 1/2 months to go, what does President Bush really have to lose by doing the right thing!

#62 gymnast 5/14/08 3:25:04 pm 0

An Iranian-Syrian triumph as Iran seeks to push the Shia Crescent through Arabia to the Mediterranean Sea. Once in Place, it will deal with Israel and the Sunni at its leisure. Or so it thinks.

#63 WrathofG-d 5/14/08 3:27:50 pm 0

re: #53 buzzsawmonkey

Hiz'b'amalek no likey this one?

maybe they like this one better then? (on the left)

#64 battletop2 5/14/08 3:28:00 pm 0

The brand spanking new "Most Dangerous Man In The World " is now the new head of the Beirut Intl. Airport security. Flying bombs filled with people (oops, martyrs), anyone? The islamofascists will likely dare the IAF to take them out before they reach Tel Aviv. IMHO.

#65 jcm 5/14/08 3:28:43 pm 1

re: #55 WrathofG-d

Doomsday History Channel P. 1

It's the HISTORY Channel, not the PROPHECY Channel!
/

#66 jcm 5/14/08 3:30:16 pm 1

re: #61 Nevergiveup

Well the only thing we have going for us is that with only 6 & 1/2 months to go, what does President Bush really have to lose by doing the right thing!

I hope so. McCain will do what need to been done.
BHO will kiss Dinnerjackets waffle.
HRC will do whatever the focus group tells her, which will be "none of our business."

#67 coquimbojoe 5/14/08 3:30:28 pm 1

Maybe the gov't is using hudna against them, and when its ready, pow, right in the kisser!

#68 Russkilitlover 5/14/08 3:30:35 pm 0

re: #5 zombie

Get ready for the Hezbollah vs Israel War II.

Wouldn't want to be Hezbollah this time around.

I wonder if Israel will be offensive or defensive. Will they wait for attack or will they take steps today? From what I'm hearing from everyone regarding Israeli leadership (especially with Olmert wrapped up in corruption investigations), my guess is that they will take a defensive posture.

#69 shibumi 5/14/08 3:30:48 pm 0

re: #54 jcm

Dat true.

But is there the will to use 'em.

That my friend, is the question of the hour.

My guess (for what it's worth) is that GWB's decision will have a lot to do with how the election looks. If Obambi looks like he's going to trounce McCain, GWB might just take action because he knows Obambi won't. If John "bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran" is doing well, GW might just leave the job for him.

#70 bosforus 5/14/08 3:30:56 pm 1

re: #55 WrathofG-d

Doomsday History Channel P. 1

"...even an internet based prophetic software program!"
Now I'm listening!

#71 Whiterasta 5/14/08 3:31:18 pm 1

re: #24 VegasRick

Exactly! Can you imagine all the State Department weenies cutting off military aid to Israel?

It would probably happen. The dirty, stinking business of modern diplomacy.

All those US senators and congressmen who suck up at the teat of saudi-mite oil money........

#72 shibumi 5/14/08 3:32:06 pm 0

re: #65 jcm

It's the HISTORY Channel, not the PROPHECY Channel!
/

So I'm guessing you don't watch "UFO Files" on the History Channel either, huh?

: )

#73 Kenneth 5/14/08 3:32:17 pm 3

Ayatollah Ghilmeini wrote a brilliant essay about this a few days ago, required reading for all lizards:

The Very Big War

Very frightening.

#74 LeftJustAintRight 5/14/08 3:32:42 pm 2

Will Bush start a fight with Iran in December so the New POTUS will have something to keep him/herself busy ?
/sarc

#75 abolitionist 5/14/08 3:33:07 pm 0

re: #43 freebird100

[snip] I recommend you find Caroline's article The End of Lebanon at Jpost.com.

This one? Our World: How Lebanon was lost May 12, 2008 20:04 Updated May 13, 2008 11:02

#76 bosforus 5/14/08 3:33:13 pm 0

re: #74 LeftJustAintRight

Will Bush start a fight with Iran in December so the New POTUS will have something to keep him/herself busy ?
/sarc

He might have to unless McCain is elected.

#77 jcm 5/14/08 3:33:18 pm 0

re: #70 bosforus

"...even an internet based prophetic software program!"
Now I'm listening!

Here is the code:

printf; "12/21/2012";

#78 shibumi 5/14/08 3:33:48 pm 0

re: #70 bosforus

"...even an internet based prophetic software program!"
Now I'm listening!

You mean the web bot program?

If yes, that's another concept that mostly traces back to the History Channel program.

Interesting concept though.

#79 stead63 5/14/08 3:34:56 pm 0

re: #74 LeftJustAintRight

Will Bush start a fight with Iran in December so the New POTUS will have something to keep him/herself busy ?
/sarc

Hmmmm I would suggest that. Make BHO earn it...*note: crossing fingers and praying hard it wont come to this.

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