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CAIR's Image Makeover

Thu, May 15, 2008 at 9:43:19 am PST

Tyler Hurd is a St. Cloud State University student plagued by seizures following a childhood accident, and has a service dog who is trained to sit on him when a seizure strikes, to prevent him from hurting himself.

A Muslim student at the school threatened to kill the dog.

Now the Hamas-linked, Saudi-funded radical Islamic front group calling itself the Council on American Islamic Relations is getting out in front of the press to support Tyler Hurd: Islamic group supports student teacher.

The only reason they are on the right side of this issue is because they need to rehabilitate their image, after being listed as an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation terrorism trial. Expect to see more empty gestures like this from CAIR.

And of course, in this article at the St. Cloud Times, you won’t find any of this context, as once again CAIR is simply (and dishonestly) described as “the nation’s largest Islamic civil liberties group.”

A Muslim civil rights group on Wednesday said it supports a St. Cloud State University student’s right to use a service dog while teaching at a high school with a growing Muslim population.

The statement comes after 23-year-old Tyler Hurd of Mahtomedi left a teacher-training assignment before its completion at Technical High School in April.

Hurd said he left because he was concerned for the safety of his service dog.

He said he was told a student at the high school threatened to kill the dog, a black Lab named Emmitt.

The student is Muslim. The Minnesota Chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations said in a statement that the need to accommodate people using service dogs far outweighs the discomfort an individual Muslim feels about coming in contact with a dog. CAIR is the nation’s largest Islamic civil liberties group.

“We were just shocked to see that. He (Hurd) was treated with disrespect,” Lori Saroya said in an interview.

She lives in Minneapolis and is chairwoman of the Minnesota chapter.

Muslims believe the saliva of dogs invalidates the ritual washing before prayer. It has become a cultural norm for individuals not to have dogs in their houses, according to Minnesota CAIR.

UPDATE at 5/15/08 10:24:07 am:

Here’s how CAIR describes the Islamic prohibition against dogs, and the SC Times accepts it at face value:

Muslims believe the saliva of dogs invalidates the ritual washing before prayer. It has become a cultural norm for individuals not to have dogs in their houses, according to Minnesota CAIR.

This description is ludicrously incomplete, to the point of being a deliberate deception. The hadith says that Muslims should not only avoid touching dogs—they should kill them.

(Hat tip: SpringheelJack.)

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#1 Ben Hur 5/15/08 9:44:28 am 0

Nice try.

#2 bosforus 5/15/08 9:45:18 am 13

And the worst part about this story is that this shallow image makeover crap will actually work on most Americans.

#3 Ben Hur 5/15/08 9:45:37 am 1

Embarrassment Will Bring Victory.

#4 MrSilverDragon 5/15/08 9:45:48 am 0

I have to call "bullshit" on the line "We were just shocked to see that."

And so, it is called.

#5 MandyManners 5/15/08 9:46:01 am 0
#6 MandyManners 5/15/08 9:46:22 am 0

Is the Obama baby gonna' be here?

#7 NoSubmission 5/15/08 9:46:37 am 1

Threatened to kill a service dog. What a lowlife piece of ___.

#8 lawhawk 5/15/08 9:47:02 am 5

This is an example of the broken clock theory in action. It's also going to be cited ad infinitum every time someone (like Charles, Hot Air, Ace, The Jawas, Spencer, Malkin, or anyone else (and apologies to those I left off the abbreviated list)) cites CAIRs criminal ties to terrorist groups and ongoing status as unindicted coconspirators in terror cases.

They'll say - hey we did good by this guy here. In this case.

In this one case.

All the while, their other CAIR leaders are busy undermining civil liberties in this country by pushing Islamic doctrine on everyone else.

#9 Creeping Eruption 5/15/08 9:47:19 am 0

re: #7 NoSubmission

Threatened to kill a service dog. What a lowlife piece of ___.

ROP at its finest.

#10 BlueCanuck 5/15/08 9:47:30 am 0

Okay, they say this but for some reason I don't believe them.

#11 lawhawk 5/15/08 9:48:07 am 1

Come to think of it, CAIR had no choice but to come out as it did. If they didn't, their wholly transparent agenda would have shone through.

#12 Gordon Marock 5/15/08 9:49:42 am 2

With respect to CAIR's efforts, as the saying goes, "That dog won't hunt"

#13 wrenchwench 5/15/08 9:49:57 am 0

You can put lipstick on a pig, but it still has two sow's ears and nowhere to put pearls.

#14 shanec99 5/15/08 9:50:25 am 0

Next CAIR will apologize to every Jew because Minister Farrakhan called Judaism a gutter religion. Darn a winged pig just flew by my window.

I should not be so sarcastic should I?

#15 bosforus 5/15/08 9:50:41 am 3

Most people don't even know what CAIR is and if the first thing they hear about them is that they like puppies they'll never feel it necessary to change their minds about them. By virtue of being called a 'civil rights group' they already dupe most people.

#16 Ben Hur 5/15/08 9:51:19 am 2

re: #2 bosforus

And the worst part about this story is that this shallow image makeover crap will actually work on most Americans.


So true.

Much like the sudden appearence of 20000000 million American flags behind Baruch following the Rev Wright fiasco.

So blatant, and so much silience from the MSM.

#17 MandyManners 5/15/08 9:51:26 am 0

We know who you really are, Hoopie.

HT: EC Marm.

#18 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) 5/15/08 9:51:42 am 0
outweighs the discomfort an individual Muslim

HERESY!

#19 HBob 5/15/08 9:51:43 am 0

Makes me think puppy kisses are Holy.

#20 Sizzlack 5/15/08 9:51:45 am 0

We've been discussing this issue on another message board I frequent. Numerous people came out and literally tried to shut the discussion down, saying that asshole kids will be asshole kids and that religion has nothing to do with it. They refuse to even accept the possibility that this incident was caused by religion. And because they didn't like the fact that it was posted, they went around calling anyone who responded a racist and tried to frame the issue solely on the "kids will be kids" argument.

#21 bubbasbbq 5/15/08 9:51:54 am 0

#13 Wrenchwench

I think you summed it up nicely.

#22 Dianna 5/15/08 9:52:22 am 0

This never should have happened; the administrators of that school have laid out a golden opportunity for CAIR, no matter what happens.

I'm just disgusted.

#23 MandyManners 5/15/08 9:52:27 am 0

re: #13 wrenchwench

You can put lipstick on a pig, but it still has two sow's ears and nowhere to put pearls.

Yes, it does.
HT NY Nana.

#24 stead63 5/15/08 9:52:36 am 0

Next step will be "PETA -Loves CAIR!"

#25 bosforus 5/15/08 9:52:38 am 0

re: #16 Ben Hur

So true.

Much like the sudden appearence of 20000000 million American flags behind Baruch following the Rev Wright fiasco.

So blatant, and so much silience from the MSM.

As much of an increase in interest as there is this political season, unless you're actively trying to put things together and connect the dots, you'll never be close to knowing what's going on.

#26 The Other Les 5/15/08 9:52:44 am 0

re: #14 shanec99

Next CAIR will apologize to every Jew because Minister Farrakhan called Judaism a gutter religion. Darn a winged pig just flew by my window.

I should not be so sarcastic should I?

I would never call Islam a gutter religion.

(Yes, this is sarcasm.)

#27 Nevergiveup 5/15/08 9:52:50 am 0

re: #20 Sizzlack

We've been discussing this issue on another message board I frequent. Numerous people came out and literally tried to shut the discussion down, saying that asshole kids will be asshole kids and that religion has nothing to do with it. They refuse to even accept the possibility that this incident was caused by religion. And because they didn't like the fact that it was posted, they went around calling anyone who responded a racist and tried to frame the issue solely on the "kids will be kids" argument.

Well MY kids would not have done that!

#28 Sizzlack 5/15/08 9:53:16 am 0

re: #20 Sizzlack

And when I tried to say something along the lines of "this isn't Somalia, if you can't deal with our customs you need to go back to Somalia", I took quite a bit of heat suggesting that foreigners should attempt to assimilate to our culture/society. Someone said our sense of entitlement was beyond them. Ahhhwhaa?

#29 MandyManners 5/15/08 9:53:19 am 0

re: #20 Sizzlack

We've been discussing this issue on another message board I frequent. Numerous people came out and literally tried to shut the discussion down, saying that asshole kids will be asshole kids and that religion has nothing to do with it. They refuse to even accept the possibility that this incident was caused by religion. And because they didn't like the fact that it was posted, they went around calling anyone who responded a racist and tried to frame the issue solely on the "kids will be kids" argument.

Didja' tell them that Islam is not a race?

#30 Dianna 5/15/08 9:54:11 am 0

re: #20 Sizzlack

No, kids will not be kids. Threatening to kill a service dog on "religious" grounds is anything but being a kid.

And what were the administrators thinking?

#31 opnion 5/15/08 9:54:23 am 0

They are seeking good PR & their enablers will cite meaningless gestures like this.. I don't buy it.
The whole reason that dogs are dissed by the RoP is because the Prophet was afraid of them. Dogs know.
What about the Pious RoPer who made the threat? Any info.?

#32 JohnnyReb 5/15/08 9:54:33 am 0

No way these knuckleheads will ever take over the US. I mean how many dogs are there in this country? Must be millions of them. They will have to deal with them first. If most dog owners are like me and the wife, if you tried to do something with our kids, your done.

Anyway they are scared of dogs. One of the guys that used to work for me ran off every time they brought the military working dogs in the building. And no he didn't do drugs.

#33 buzzsawmonkey 5/15/08 9:54:52 am 1

re: #29 MandyManners

Didja' tell them that Islam is not a race?

I thought that the quality of life in Islamic nations indicated it was a race to the bottom.

#34 Gordon Marock 5/15/08 9:55:00 am 5

Headline: "CAIR Claims Compassion for Canine in Calculated Campaign to Counter Criticism."

#35 Nevergiveup 5/15/08 9:55:09 am 0

re: #30 Dianna

No, kids will not be kids. Threatening to kill a service dog on "religious" grounds is anything but being a kid.

And what were the administrators thinking?

Those who can't, teach. Those who can't teach, administrate.

#36 Dianna 5/15/08 9:55:34 am 0

re: #28 Sizzlack

Then why are they here? I don't get this, and never have.

#37 Sharmuta 5/15/08 9:55:42 am 6
“We were just shocked to see that. He (Hurd) was treated with disrespect,” Lori Saroya said in an interview.

Yeah- shocked. Right. Because muslims in Minnesota have never had problems with dogs before.

#38 JammieWearingFool 5/15/08 9:55:58 am 0

Wow, they're really going out on a limb here.

Not buying it. Although word is Tim Townsend (a/k/a Burger Boy) is getting a tingle up his leg.

#39 shanec99 5/15/08 9:56:15 am 0

re: #26 The Other Les

I would never call Islam a gutter religion.

(Yes, this is sarcasm.)


Why would you call Islam a gutter religion?

Gutters help us to rid communities of of refuse that could cause illnesses don't they. Do you think that Islam does anything to improve life in a community?

If you can cite one, I would be interested to see the evidence to back up the allegation.

#40 wrenchwench 5/15/08 9:56:55 am 0

re: #23 MandyManners

Yes, it does.
HT NY Nana.


Oh, that's priceless! Still wouldn't wanna kiss it, though.

#41 opnion 5/15/08 9:57:06 am 0

re: #28 Sizzlack

And when I tried to say something along the lines of "this isn't Somalia, if you can't deal with our customs you need to go back to Somalia", I took quite a bit of heat suggesting that foreigners should attempt to assimilate to our culture/society. Someone said our sense of entitlement was beyond them. Ahhhwhaa?


A society that 'Celebrates Diversity", what divides us at the expense of what unites us is in serious trouble.

#42 Gordon Marock 5/15/08 9:57:15 am 0

I'll get you and your little dog too.

#43 bosforus 5/15/08 9:57:19 am 0

re: #38 JammieWearingFool

Wow, they're really going out on a limb here.

Not buying it. Although word is Tim Townsend (a/k/a Burger Boy) is getting a tingle up his leg.

Hopefully it's just a dog taking a piss on him.

#44 buzzsawmonkey 5/15/08 9:58:34 am 0

re: #41 opnion

A society that 'Celebrates Diversity", what divides us at the expense of what unites us is in serious trouble.

Given how gelded most believers in "diversity" are, I think we should start referring to "a society that celibates diversity."

#45 The Other Les 5/15/08 9:58:37 am 0

re: #39 shanec99

Why would you call Islam a gutter religion?

Gutters help us to rid communities of of refuse that could cause illnesses don't they. Do you think that Islam does anything to improve life in a community?

If you can cite one, I would be interested to see the evidence to back up the allegation.

I would never insult a gutter.

#46 SpringheelJack 5/15/08 9:58:59 am 2

Islamic hostility to dogs goes far beyond "Muslims believe the saliva of dogs invalidates the ritual washing before prayer"

The Hadith devotes a whole chapter on how dogs should be killed

#47 Sizzlack 5/15/08 9:59:18 am 0

re: #30 Dianna

The admins stayed out of it. The discussion wasn't shut down but those opposed to the article certainly made everyone else feel very unwelcome.

#48 Killgore Trout 5/15/08 9:59:49 am 0
Muslims believe the saliva of dogs invalidates the ritual washing before prayer


Silly.

#49 Sizzlack 5/15/08 10:00:26 am 0

re: #41 opnion

I made the argument (which happens to be CAIRs argument) that the supposed "delicate sensibilities" of a religious person (no matter the religion) do not trump the physical well being of another individual. Sometimes you just need to deal with your feelings being hurt, especially if it involves a service dog and a disabled person.

#50 hayseed 5/15/08 10:00:47 am -1

re: #48 Killgore Trout

Mohammod was a cat person

/jus sayin

#51 jhn1 5/15/08 10:01:01 am 0

So a Minneapolis taxi driver should be able to refuse to pick up a person having a service dog, but they support this TA's right to not have the dog killed out of hand.
Not necessarily inconsistent.
As long as the CAIR counter-protests also include that the TA is not allowed to teach a class that might have a Muslim student.
If not, then yes, they are grandstanding, and the Minneapolis press should include the prior CAIR stance on a Muslim cabbie's rights to violate federal and state law re: service dogs.

#52 Kosh's Shadow 5/15/08 10:01:33 am 0

re: #32 JohnnyReb

No way these knuckleheads will ever take over the US. I mean how many dogs are there in this country? Must be millions of them. They will have to deal with them first. If most dog owners are like me and the wife, if you tried to do something with our kids, your done.

Anyway they are scared of dogs. One of the guys that used to work for me ran off every time they brought the military working dogs in the building. And no he didn't do drugs.

We have seven dogs. Three are standard poodles; the other four are toys. The standards are very protective. Don't mess with them.

When I was in the Explorers, we got a tour of Otis AFB, (mostly the ANG section), including the kennels where they trained and kept the guard dogs.
If the kid TOUCHED the service dog, he should be thrown in with the guard dogs for a while. And, if he didn't move, he'd be safe. Probably wet himself, but the dogs are very well trained.

#53 shanec99 5/15/08 10:01:36 am 0

re: #45 The Other Les

Gutters are useful... can we say the same about devout Muslims like: Osama bin Laden
Mullah Omar
Ahmadinejad
Al Sadr

#54 MandyManners 5/15/08 10:03:07 am 0

re: #33 buzzsawmonkey

I thought that the quality of life in Islamic nations indicated it was a race to the bottom.

Heh.


HT: EC Marm

#55 Bill Jefferson 5/15/08 10:05:58 am 0

Wait, I thought it was because a puppy impeded Gabriel from reaching Mohammed during one of his seizures. (If Mo had had a service dog, we might have been spared the Koran.) Now it is because a dog's saliva invalidates ritual washing? Like if a dog licks me after I wash but before I pray, I have to wash up again? Not that I can't pet the dog, not that I can't have the dog apart from me in the same classroom, and certainly not I have to kill the dog because it happens to exist in the same school building? These people are nuts.

#56 The Other Les 5/15/08 10:06:55 am 0

re: #53 shanec99

No. But carrion eaters have to eat too.

#57 Psaturn 5/15/08 10:08:05 am 0

"Islamic civil liberty group"....Talk about an oxymoron !

#58 USA 5/15/08 10:09:30 am 1

OUCH

Speaking to the Israeli Knesset, President Bush indirectly slammed Obama as an “appeaser”. Click here for the ABC video (you have to endure a commercial before the clip starts).

Obama confirms his own lack of literacy in history with his response.

For the benefit of Obama supporters - the most historically, culturally and politically illiterate population of voters in the nation’s history - follow this linkto read about the contribution of Chamberlain’s policies of appeasement to genocide and world war in which hundreds of millions of people were slaughtered... all unnecessary but inevitable because of Chamberlain. Bush is right, Obama is nothing more than Chamberlain with a tan.

#59 Sharmuta 5/15/08 10:11:21 am 0

re: #51 jhn1

I guess the city of Minneapolis is having vendor issues, so I can't link the law, but IIRC it's a violation for them to deny cab service to the handicapped.

However- they did try to deny dogs, booze, and the GLTG community in the past, so I'm not buying that this cair shill chick was "shocked".

#60 Nevergiveup 5/15/08 10:11:54 am 0

Well here's a shocker for you. CA Supreme court upholds Gay marriage.

#61 HBob 5/15/08 10:12:34 am 1

re: #58 USA

OUCH

Listening to it now on Prager - a great speech.

#62 Nevergiveup 5/15/08 10:12:48 am 0

re: #60 Nevergiveup

Well here's a shocker for you. CA Supreme court upholds Gay marriage.

Well to be more accurate, they overturned the Gay marriage ban.

#63 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) 5/15/08 10:13:09 am 0

re: #60 Nevergiveup

Well here's a shocker for you. CA Supreme court upholds Gay marriage.

So much for the voice of the people, CA voted against it years ago.

#64 USA 5/15/08 10:13:26 am 0

re: #61 HBob

I'm listening, too. Thanks.

#65 Nevergiveup 5/15/08 10:13:45 am 0

re: #63 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So much for the voice of the people, CA voted against it years ago.

Well you know the Dems don't trust the people after all!

#66 CyanSnowHawk 5/15/08 10:14:53 am 2

re: #50 hayseed

Mohammod was a cat person

/jus sayin

Maybe Basement Cat.

Ain't no way he was anything like Ceiling Cat.

#67 markie 5/15/08 10:14:53 am 0

Earth to CAIR:

Gonna take more than that to fool enough of us.

notice I didn't use the word convince.

#68 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) 5/15/08 10:15:18 am 0

re: #65 Nevergiveup

Well you know the Dems don't trust the people after all!

LOWLY PLEBIANS! Get back to your shanties!

#69 KenJen 5/15/08 10:15:58 am 2

I have three dogs. They love to go for walks, ride in the car, go to the park, snuggle on the sofa and invalidate ritual washings.

#70 Nevergiveup 5/15/08 10:16:03 am 0

re: #68 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

LOWLY PLEBIANS! Get back to your shanties!

The Dems know what's best for us wether we like it or not!

#71 XMarine 5/15/08 10:16:29 am 0

Now I have to think a little. Perhaps we are being a bit cynical about CAIR. Maybe CAIR really has had a change of heart ... 1/9999th of a second later - I remain cynical.

On the bright side, perhaps CAIR has been forced to update it image because so many of us are on to them. They could be reluctantly back stepping.

#72 Noam Sayin' 5/15/08 10:16:34 am 0

Who is Lori Saroya and what is the Council on Crime and Justice?

#73 chinesearithmetic 5/15/08 10:17:04 am 0

Islam's not even as sick as a dog.

#74 chinesearithmetic 5/15/08 10:17:20 am 0

It's sicker.

#75 Sharmuta 5/15/08 10:17:30 am 6

re: #55 Bill Jefferson

Dogs have an eerie ability to sense good and bad in people. My guess is the dogs mohammed came in contact with didn't like him, so the problem was the dogs.

#76 taxfreekiller 5/15/08 10:18:20 am 0

Got another alert from

[Link: www.numbersusa.com...]

seems Diane is a Finestink is up to wage slave lusting once more
and is attempting to put an amendment on the Iraq War bill in the
approbations committee in the Senate this afternoon, for more cheap
labor for her re