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Crybaby Says What?

Thu, May 15, 2008 at 12:19:48 pm PDT

What’s that high-pitched, furious whining sound I keep hearing?

Oh, I see. It’s just Barack Obama complaining again. This time he’s throwing a tantrum about a boilerplate anti-terrorism statement by President Bush that doesn’t even mention him by name.

ABC News’ Ed O’Keefe Reports: The Obama campaign is taking issue with a comment President Bush made while speaking to the Knesset on the 60th anniversary of Israel’s statehood.

“Some seem to believe we should negotiate with terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along,” the President said to the country’s legislative body, “We have heard this foolish delusion before. As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: ‘Lord, if only I could have talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided.’ We have an obligation to call this what it is –- the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history.”

In a statement, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., shot across the bow: “It is sad that President Bush would use a speech to the Knesset on the 6Oth anniversary of Israel’s independence to launch a false political attack. It is time to turn the page on eight years of policies that have strengthened Iran and failed to secure America or our ally Israel. Instead of tough talk and no action, we need to do what Kennedy, Nixon and Reagan did and use all elements of American power — including tough, principled, and direct diplomacy - to pressure countries like Iran and Syria. George Bush knows that I have never supported engagement with terrorists, and the President’s extraordinary politicization of foreign policy and the politics of fear do nothing to secure the American people or our stalwart ally Israel.”

ABC News’ White House troops point out that the President has made similar statements in the past and Bush did not specifically cite Obama by name, though he did reference Sen. William Borah’s immortal reaction upon hearing that Hitler had invaded Poland and begun World War II, something he has not highlighted in the past.

“(The President) has said similar things before,” a White House official told ABC News’ Martha Raddatz. “But it is in reference to a number of people, think Carter, others who have engaged in this or suggested it.”

White House spokesperson Dana Perino was asked if Bush’s line was a slam against Obama and she insisted, “It is not.”

“I understand that when you are running for office sometimes you think the world revolves around you. That is not always true and it is not true in this case,” Perino added.

UPDATE at 5/15/08 12:35:11 pm:

The Huffington Post is going bat guano crazy, with a typically dishonest headline: Bush Compares Obama To Nazi Appeasers.

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1 Gordon Marock  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:21:31pm

If the shoe fits . . .

2 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:21:33pm
3 Alouette  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:21:44pm

Hey Hussein, if the shoe fits...

4 coquimbojoe  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:21:45pm

Whaaa make me president! Whaaa!

5 redstateredneck  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:21:47pm

If the shoe fits...

6 redstateredneck  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:22:08pm

re: #3 Alouette

Hey Hussein, if the shoe fits...

GMTA!

7 turn  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:22:09pm

“I understand that when you are running for office sometimes you think the world revolves around you. That is not always true and it is not true in this case,” Perino added.

I really liked that come back.

8 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:22:18pm

So Obama heard the words appeasement and assumed that they meant him.

Very telling indeed.

9 Nevergiveup  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:22:20pm

Obama must feel terribly guilty over something?

10 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:22:31pm
“I understand that when you are running for office sometimes you think the world revolves around you. That is not always true and it is not true in this case,” Perino added

That is hilarious! Nice way to ding Obama.

11 Sharmuta  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:22:41pm

Sounds like someone has a guilty conscience.

12 redstateredneck  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:22:59pm

Now that John Edwards has thrown in with crybaby, maybe he can sue for defamation of character or something.

13 Gordon Marock  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:23:01pm

Wow, I guess Charles really has brainwashed the Lizard Army. We all think in footwear analogies.

14 coquimbojoe  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:23:05pm

re: #11 Sharmuta

Sounds like someone has a guilty conscience.

Sounds like someone is a wuss.

15 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:23:06pm

re: #1 Gordon Marock

If the shoe fits . . .

stick it up your ass.

16 Peacekeeper  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:23:12pm

RACISM!

17 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:23:18pm

Sideways.

18 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:23:23pm

re: #11 Sharmuta

Sounds like someone has a guilty conscience.


Indeed...

19 Shug  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:23:33pm

Kennedy
Nixon
Reagan
Obama

"one of these things is not like the other"

20 Occasional Reader  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:23:34pm
Instead of tough talk and no action

"No action"? I could have sworn we took down two terror-sponsoring regimes, including one headed up by a guy named Saddam [REDACTED].

21 Alouette  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:23:39pm

Let's all throw shoes at him!

22 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:23:49pm

Where's that certain person on another thread?

23 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:23:55pm
24 drewberto  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:23:56pm

you would think the left would eventually get tired of all the self important smuggery.

25 Ben Hur  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:24:04pm

The fact that he, or anybody else on the left, is complaining about political "attacks" after what they and their bullhorns in the MSM have done to this President since he climbed up that hill with the firefighter after 9/11 is effen beyond me.

And some did it on foreign soil as well.

26 Nevergiveup  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:24:11pm

re: #19 Shug

Kennedy
Nixon
Reagan
Obama

"one of these things is not like the other"

Which Kennedy is being referenced?

27 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:24:35pm

re: #15 Ward Cleaver

Huh?

28 Peacekeeper  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:24:54pm

Apparenlty Bush sank his Battleship.

29 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:25:00pm

"Hey, I resent represent that!"

- bho

30 JammieWearingFool  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:25:05pm

Would you like some whine with your waffle?

31 Nevergiveup  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:25:09pm

re: #23 buzzsawmonkey

He's afraid that if he doesn't denounce Bush, it will upset his phone bank in Gaza.

So would some well place errant missiles.

32 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:25:09pm
“Some seem to believe we should negotiate with terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along.We have heard this foolish delusion before. As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: ‘Lord, if only I could have talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided.’ We have an obligation to call this what it is –- the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history.”

Now why on Earth would Sen. Obama think this statement was in reference to him?

Hmmm.

33 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:25:18pm

re: #27 MandyManners

Huh?

I'm talking about Obama.

34 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:25:25pm

re: #24 drewberto

you would think the left would eventually get tired of all the self important smuggery.

Nah. It's in their DNA.

35 gop_patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:25:33pm

re: #10 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I agree! It was a great response to the arrogant, self-centered brat.

36 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:25:35pm

re: #24 drewberto

you would think the left would eventually get tired of all the self important smuggery.


They aren't smug...we're just stupid, bible thumping, gun toting, bitter idiots.
/

37 Ben Hur  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:25:51pm

President George W Bush.

BLASPHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEMER!

38 JammieWearingFool  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:26:20pm

These liberals are hilarious. They've spend the better part of Bush's terms appeasing terrorists and trying to pull out of Iraq, then when they're called on it they freak out.

F---ing babies.

39 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:26:27pm

re: #13 Gordon Marock

BHOITA JACCP - Boot Hussein Obama In the A@@ (Just Another Crook County Politician).

40 alegrias  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:26:41pm

Obama is smart because this gets him free airtime, and campaigning against President Bush makes his followers feel good.

Obama's own website said he would talk without preconditions to Ahmedinejad!

And Hamas wants Obama elected so they can parley too.

41 Ben Hur  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:26:47pm

What Bush said is horrible.

Yet, Dinnerjacket is fine.

42 blueroom127  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:27:23pm

If the shoe fits...

43 cartoonboy  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:27:26pm

Obama: "As mesiah, I can help Iran&co alleviate it's problem with this constant wound, that this constant sore, which infects all of our foreign policy. Now please-can't I just eat my waffles."

44 Shug  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:27:30pm
George Bush knows that I have never supported engagement with terrorists

cough** Bill Ayers** cough

45 Ben Hur  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:27:34pm

Baruch can disown President Bush as fast as he disowned his grandmother.

46 NR Pax  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:27:53pm

I think with that level of self-absorption, I'm beginning to see why Obama's message resonates so much with younger voters. He's just like them.

47 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:27:53pm

Huzzah President Bush. I loved the part where he said, someone thinks an ingenious argument will make them go, "You know? You're right. Our bad."

Horse Hockey! Nothing will change it other than the total destruction of the evil ones.

48 JammieWearingFool  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:27:57pm

Maybe the My Barack Obama clown from the Olbermann thread can come up here and enlighten us.

I think he's still down there talking to himself.

49 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:28:11pm

re: #41 Ben Hur

What Bush said is horrible.

Yet, Dinnerjacket is fine.


The Small, Leisure Suited One isn't the oppressive pig that President Bush is...after all we have Gitmo. Oh and naked jihadist pyramids.

50 snowcrash  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:28:19pm

That baby is just too cute to use as a Obama crybaby.

51 Wm T Sherman  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:28:48pm

Obama should engage the Bush administration, work out his differences with them by face-to-face discussions, a meeting of the minds. This kind of strident rhetoric only inflames the situation, and is no substitute for earnest negotiations and genuine diplomacy. Talk to them Senator, work out your differences in a civilized manner. I'm sure they'll lay off once there is mutual understanding.

52 Nevergiveup  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:28:49pm

re: #41 Ben Hur

What Bush said is horrible.

Yet, Dinnerjacket is fine.

Dean is demanding, demanding I say, a rejection of such talk from McCain. I am pretty sure McCain will tell Dean to shove it where the sun don't shine.

53 Sharmuta  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:29:19pm
It is time to turn the page on eight years of policies that have strengthened Iran and failed to secure America or our ally Israel.

And your idea of weakening iran is to talk to them, barack? Oh- and heal that "constant sore" too, right?

54 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:29:25pm

re: #44 Shug

cough** Bill Ayers** cough

Hamas, Farc

55 Gordon Marock  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:29:26pm

re: #42 blueroom127

If the shoe fits...

Hmmmm

56 Ben Hur  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:29:31pm

And as Lawhawk pointed out this morning, OUT OF EVERYTHING IN A GREAT SPEECH IN SUPPORT OF THE US'S GREATEST ALLY, ISRAEL, THIS IS WHAT THE LEFT AND THE MSM WILL FOCUS ON.

57 redstateredneck  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:29:40pm

re: #50 snowcrash

That baby is just too cute to use as a Obama crybaby.

That's the non-specific Democrat crybaby.
Too cute for that, too.

58 gop_patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:29:43pm

re: #44 Shug

YEP

59 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:29:44pm

Boy, Ima dingin' away! Go! Sic 'em!

60 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:29:51pm

re: #52 Nevergiveup

Dean is demanding, demanding I say, a rejection of such talk from McCain. I am pretty sure McCain will tell Dean to shove it where the sun don't shine.


I hope so...in some areas McCain needs to grow a pair.

61 JammieWearingFool  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:29:52pm
“I understand that when you are running for office sometimes you think the world revolves around you. That is not always true and it is not true in this case,” Perino added.

Touche!

Every liberal thinks the world revolves around them.

62 alegrias  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:29:54pm

ABC's Martha Raddetz may be right, in that President Bush may have been speaking about Carter I, not Obama/Carter II.

63 turn  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:30:17pm

I'm worried now that McCain might just cave in to the out-roar from the left demanding he denounce Bush's comments.

64 chinesearithmetic  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:30:45pm

ABC News’ White House troops point out

The Joint Chiefs of Steph?

65 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:30:59pm

He wants our hegemony.

HT: EC Marm and BabbaZee

66 Nevergiveup  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:31:10pm

re: #56 Ben Hur

And as Lawhawk pointed out this morning, OUT OF EVERYTHING IN A GREAT SPEECH IN SUPPORT OF THE US'S GREATEST ALLY, ISRAEL, THIS IS WHAT THE LEFT AND THE MSM WILL FOCUS ON.

Well you don't expect them to actually support Israel. They have to be even handed . It's a moral equivalences thing you know.

67 redstateredneck  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:31:12pm

re: #60 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I heard part of a speech he was giving somewhere today where he was talking about how he would have Democrats in his administration.
/puke

68 alegrias  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:31:25pm

That's not a baby, it's a problem. (sarc)

69 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:31:37pm
70 JammieWearingFool  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:31:40pm

re: #50 snowcrash

That baby is just too cute to use as a Obama crybaby.

How's this crying baby?

71 gop_patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:32:10pm

re: #62 alegrias

ABC's Martha Raddetz may be right, in that President Bush may have been speaking about Carter I, not Obama/Carter II.

Which makes it even funnier that Barak assumed the President was talking about him! What an egotistical schmo.

72 WrathofG-d  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:32:14pm

I love this. Reminds me of CAIR

When one puts down, Terrorists, murderers, slaughterers of innocents, and religious zealots...CAIR will come out and scream Islamophobia. (yet, CAIR was the 1st to mention ISLAM)

hahhaa

73 Ben Hur  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:32:19pm
It is time to turn the page on eight years of policies that have strengthened Iran and failed to secure America or our ally Israel.

1. Iran's nuke program started under CLINTON.

2. CLINTON brought the PLO from TUNIS.

Before Oslo the average # (approx) of terror deaths in Israel was 14/year - and that was rightly considered unacceptable.

After Olso, it shot up to 150/year.

CLINTON!

The Left continues to take advantage of the populace's ignorance.

74 Viking6  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:32:34pm

Don't hate the player hate the game
More Waffles please
-bho

75 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:32:39pm

This kinda sums up obama:

While suturing a cut on the hand of a 75 year old Texas rancher,
whose hand was caught in a gate while working cattle, the doctor
struck up a conversation with the old man. Eventually the topic
got around to Obama and his bid for the Presidency.

The old rancher said, 'Well, ya know, Obama is a post turtle'.
Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what a
'post turtle' was. The old rancher said, 'When you're driving down
a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle
balanced on top, that's a 'post turtle.'

The old man saw a puzzled look on the doctor's face, so he continued to explain.
'You know he didn't get up there by himself, he doesn't belong up there,
he doesn't know what to do while he is up there and you just want to
help the dumbass get down.'

76 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:32:40pm

re: #33 Ward Cleaver

I'm talking about Obama.

Shut Yo Mouth!

77 Dad O' Blondes  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:32:58pm

When asked if his comments were in any way directed at Barack Obama, President Bush, the leader of the free world asked simply:

"Who?"

.

78 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:32:58pm

re: #67 redstateredneck

I heard part of a speech he was giving somewhere today where he was talking about how he would have Democrats in his administration.
/puke

Yep...I'm gonna have to get drunk after I vote this November. Really, really drunk.

Still, at least the open thread that night will be interesting.

79 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:33:00pm

Will you just shup up and finish your waffle!

80 Golem Akbar  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:33:12pm

/Terrorists are people, too.
/All you need is love [tell that to Heather Mills]
/Can't we all just get along?
[stomach starting to turn...]

81 WrathofG-d  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:33:14pm

After reading it I figured Bush's speech was directed at the Knesset itself?

82 Maximu§  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:33:16pm

~whew~

Glad to be outta the Gay Marraige thread....that one is going to get ugly.

83 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:33:26pm

re: #48 JammieWearingFool

Maybe the My Barack Obama clown from the Olbermann thread can come up here and enlighten us.

I think he's still down there talking to himself.

I noticed he didn't respond to this.

84 JammieWearingFool  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:33:39pm

OK, this one is just begging to be photoshopped.

85 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:33:45pm

re: #52 Nevergiveup

Dean is demanding, demanding I say, a rejection of such talk from McCain. I am pretty sure McCain will tell Dean to shove it where the sun don't shine.

I hope so. I hope he's not waiting for a green light from Obama.

86 EC Marm  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:33:54pm

When I think of Barack Obama and foreign policy, I picture this.
Hobby horse diplomacy.

87 opnion  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:34:33pm

Let me get this straight. Bush has been defamed & ridiculed by the Dems & their media shills for over seven years. He has been called
stupid, a drunk & a war crimial "He has blood on his hands!"
He make a speech not even mentioning Barry. Even if he did it would have been clearly correct. Obama freaks and gets mental.
This hyper sensitive clown should not be a US Senator much less President.

88 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:35:16pm

Did Obama choke on his waffle this morning?

89 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:35:40pm
90 JammieWearingFool  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:35:42pm

re: #83 MandyManners

I noticed he didn't respond to this.

You see, Mandy, he just didn't want to engage us since we were being mean and making fun of him. It's just so beneath him.

91 gop_patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:36:04pm

*whew* giving alot of +1s on this thread. Good stuff. :)

92 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:36:08pm

So Barry,

When you say that you would sit down with these people, you didn't mean it?
You'd repeal NAFTA, but you didn't mean it?
You listened to Wright, but you really didn't listen?

Yep. You got my vote.

/

93 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:36:12pm

re: #87 opnion

Let me get this straight. Bush has been defamed & ridiculed by the Dems & their media shills for over seven years. He has been called
stupid, a drunk & a war crimial "He has blood on his hands!"
He make a speech not even mentioning Barry. Even if he did it would have been clearly correct. Obama freaks and gets mental.
This hyper sensitive clown should not be a US Senator much less President.

Can you imagine what he'd do when Iran tells BarryO to FOAD we're going to keep making nuclear weapons no matter how much you kiss our asses?

94 uptight  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:36:14pm

Bush could have been talking about any dangerously, delusional, naive, asskissing appeaser - not just Obama.

But hey - if the glove fits...

95 Sharmuta  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:36:15pm
the President’s extraordinary politicization of foreign policy and the politics of fear do nothing to secure the American people or our stalwart ally Israel.

But thinking of Israeli security in terms of a "constant sore" is very beneficial, right barack?

96 Ben Hur  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:36:27pm

This is like Hill Clinton bitching about the media.

97 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:36:37pm

re: #87 opnion

Let me get this straight. Bush has been defamed & ridiculed by
the Dems & their media shills for over seven years. He has been
called
stupid, a drunk & a war crimial "He has blood on his hands!"
He make a speech not even mentioning Barry. Even if he did it would have been clearly correct. Obama freaks and gets mental.
This hyper sensitive clown should not be a US Senator much less President.

The irony is if that Hillary had run for Senator from Illinois (her home state) instead of NY, there would be no Barack Obama & she'd be on the fast track to the White House.

98 Creeping Eruption  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:36:39pm

re: #45 Ben Hur

Baruch can disown President Bush as fast as he disowned his grandmother.

Ben, please stop calling him Baruch. I'm thinking of baby names and I already had to give up Barak (lightning - but you knew that). Baruch might actually work for my wife and I - assuming you don't spoil it.

Pretty please . . . with a republican white house on top.

99 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:36:39pm

re: #86 EC Marm

When I think of Barack Obama and foreign policy, I picture this.
Hobby horse diplomacy.

Beat me to it.

101 maddogg  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:37:16pm

George should know Obama wouldn't stand idly by while he bad mouthed Obama's kinfolk.

102 Ben Hur  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:37:33pm

re: #98 Creeping Eruption

Ben, please stop calling him Baruch. I'm thinking of baby names and I already had to give up Barak (lightning - but you knew that). Baruch might actually work for my wife and I - assuming you don't spoil it.

Pretty please . . . with a republican white house on top.

You got it.

Barak is a kick-ass name.

103 alegrias  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:37:35pm

I repeat Senator Obama is smart to insert himself into the news, it's free airtime and by taking on Big Bad President Bush, his fawning sycophants with BDS get warm fuzzy feelings, even though Pres. Bush is NOT NOT NOT running for office.

Obama is setting up a strawman to box against, and get free media air time around the world, so all the world's terrorists know where he stands--for their un-earned right to a seat at the table of the civilized.

104 JammieWearingFool  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:37:37pm

re: #87 opnion

Let me get this straight. Bush has been defamed & ridiculed by the Dems & their media shills for over seven years. He has been called
stupid, a drunk & a war crimial "He has blood on his hands!"
He make a speech not even mentioning Barry. Even if he did it would have been clearly correct. Obama freaks and gets mental.
This hyper sensitive clown should not be a US Senator much less President.

Well, Bush is a man. Big difference between him and the crybabies.

106 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:37:50pm

re: #90 JammieWearingFool

You see, Mandy, he just didn't want to engage us since we were being mean and making fun of him. It's just so beneath him.

How can anything be beneath him in his momma' basement?

107 Creeping Eruption  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:37:56pm

re: #100 WrathofG-d

ot:

108 Ben Hur  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:38:20pm
I was in a Talmud class the other day and the Rabbi pulled that out.

A duck?

109 vagabond trader  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:39:04pm

This turd has diaper rash AGAIN? I'm sure Michele will make it all nice nice.What a thin skinned hypocritical tiddy baby.

110 opnion  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:39:21pm

re: #93 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I will see that Barry insult & raise. I think he likes the other guys, not us.

111 turn  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:39:24pm

And it comes as no surprise the kos kids are all over this with quotes from Biden, Pelosi, and Kerry ...

[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

112 Creeping Eruption  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:39:25pm

re: #102 Ben Hur

You got it.

Barak is a kick-ass name.

:) Assuming he losses (Im Mirtza HaSHem) I might still use it.

113 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:39:28pm

re: #109 vagabond trader

Heh...you said tiddy.

114 WrathofG-d  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:39:32pm

ot: Irony

115 JammieWearingFool  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:39:45pm

re: #106 MandyManners

How can anything be beneath him in his momma' basement?

His brains are buried beneath the house.

116 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:39:48pm

re: #109 vagabond trader

This turd has diaper rash AGAIN? I'm sure Michele will make it all nice nice.What a thin skinned hypocritical tiddy baby.

He needs to quit drinking pineapple juice.

117 LeftJustAintRight  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:39:53pm

Someone needs to tell Obama to put on his Big Boy Panties and get over it.

118 Creeping Eruption  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:40:09pm

re: #108 Ben Hur

A duck?

out of his hat no less.

119 Ben Hur  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:40:15pm

re: #111 turn


Nancy Pelosi:
"We have a protocol, sort of a custom, informally around here that we don't criticize the president when he is on foreign soil. One would think that that would apply to the president that he would not criticize Americans when he is on foreign soil."

*stare*

120 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:40:36pm

re: #115 JammieWearingFool

His brains are buried beneath the house.

In a matchbox.

121 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:40:40pm
122 Nevergiveup  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:40:51pm

re: #117 LeftJustAintRight

Someone needs to tell Obama to put on his Big Boy Panties and get over it.

Michelle took them away from him years ago.

123 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:40:52pm

RE: Charles update at 12:35:11 pm:

That Huff-Po headline should read, Obama Compares Obama To Nazi Appeasers.

124 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:41:24pm

re: #119 Ben Hur

*stare*

Ballsy, ain't she?

125 redstateredneck  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:41:29pm

Politics of fear, politics of fear, SQUAwK! SQUAwK!

126 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:41:30pm

re: #115 JammieWearingFool

So, where is he? Does he know he'll get his ass shellacked if he comes onto a thread somewhere near the beginning?

127 JammieWearingFool  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:41:36pm

re: #111 turn

And it comes as no surprise the kos kids are all over this with quotes from Biden, Pelosi, and Kerry ...

[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

Pure hilarity. Kerry, Pelosi and Biden.

Bush didn't have to name names. The appeasers know who they are.

128 MES41067  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:41:58pm

re: #44 Shug

Nail meet head.Nicely done.

129 toadbelly  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:42:02pm

I wish the president said: “Some seem to believe we should negotiate with terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along,” Like Barak Obama and all the other sleazy Democrats. Skip the middleman and get to the point.

130 alegrias  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:42:09pm

Negotiating 444 days with bad guys worked so well for DJimmy Carter.

Guess dems have not learned a thing since those glorious daze of malaise.

131 vagabond trader  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:42:12pm

Heh, makes you wonder what the Obama would have said to the Knesset. Surrender comes to mind.

132 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:42:22pm

re: #123 CyanSnowHawk

RE: Charles update at 12:35:11 pm:

That Huff-Po headline should read, Obama Compares Obama To Nazi Appeasers.

Pissants.

133 WrathofG-d  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:42:33pm

ot:
Rocket that hit the Ashkelon Shopping Center Fired From Disengagement Destroyed City.

Yes BHO wishes to destroy more Jewish cities and give them to the Arabs.

What is that they say about learning from History? (sheesh, it was only 3 years ago)

134 Ben Hur  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:42:36pm

re: #124 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Ballsy, ain't she?

And this from the people who have said unprecedented things about a sitting President.

Uch, I can here the lurkers:

Unprecedented because we've never had such a bad pres, etc.

LOSERS/

135 JammieWearingFool  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:42:38pm

re: #126 MandyManners

So, where is he? Does he know he'll get his ass shellacked if he comes onto a thread somewhere near the beginning?

Last I saw he was still in that thread.

136 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:42:39pm

re: #127 JammieWearingFool

Pure hilarity. Kerry, Pelosi and Biden.

Bush didn't have to name names. The appeasers know who they are.

Which brings us back to the "guilty conscience" thing..although I don't think the the appeasers actually have a conscience.

137 opnion  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:42:45pm

re: #97 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

The irony is if that Hillary had run for Senator from Illinois (her home state) instead of NY, there would be no Barack Obama & she'd be on the fast track to the White House.

Yeah but NY^ was available when the Clintons left the White House.
Illinois would have involved a primary against Durbin

138 lawhawk  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:42:45pm

re: #119 Ben Hur

*blink*

139 RTLM  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:42:54pm

From Obama's website
(as of 12:41pm PST 5/15/08)
[Link: www.barackobama.com...]

Diplomacy: Obama is the only major candidate who supports tough, direct presidential diplomacy with Iran without preconditions. Now is the time to pressure Iran directly to change their troubling behavior. Obama would offer the Iranian regime a choice. If Iran abandons its nuclear program and support for terrorism, we will offer incentives like membership in the World Trade Organization, economic investments, and a move toward normal diplomatic relations. If Iran continues its troubling behavior, we will step up our economic pressure and political isolation. Seeking this kind of comprehensive settlement with Iran is our best way to make progress.

/What's the problem Obama?

140 gop_patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:43:04pm

re: #119 Ben Hur

Holy crap, did she really have the NERVE to say that!?!? =:-O

141 redstateredneck  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:43:14pm
NANCY PELOSI, SPEAKER OF HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AND

CALIFORNIA DEMOCRAT

"We have a protocol, sort of a custom, informally around here that we don't criticize the president when he is on foreign soil."


The hell you say!

142 bill-tb  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:43:25pm

Bush really lite them up with a direct gut shot. Obambi shouldn't try and speak with a script and the Teleprompter.

143 Nevergiveup  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:43:27pm

Kerry, Pelosi, and Biden oh no. Kerry ,Pelosi, and Biden oh no. Oh we'r off to see the wizard the wonderful wizard.......

144 so.cal.swede  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:43:29pm

to be honest, i think this was a calculated move by obama.

he saw an opening to bash bush, and portray him as trying to attack obama -- this benefits obama! makes people think "the man" is out to get him, the most hated man in America too. Who wouldn't sympathize with poor little obama, assaulted by the vicious, redneck, gun toting pres'dent.

145 Opinionated  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:43:33pm

It's bad to negotiate with terrorists.

So I'm glad that Abbas and Fatah are not terrorists.

Because it they were, you know, acting like terrorists, inciting like terrorists, killing like terrorists, taking credit like terrorists, praising murderers like terrorists, then supporting, arming, training, and funding them would be bad.

146 opnion  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:43:37pm

re: #121 song_and_dance_man

lol B. Hussein should wear Pull Ups.

Stop it, he might hear you. He's all ears

147 USA  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:43:40pm
148 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:43:45pm

re: #135 JammieWearingFool

Last I saw he was still in that thread.

Sounds like his momma' locked the door to the basement and he can't get out.

149 unreconstructed rebel  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:43:45pm

re: #94 uptight

Stop. This is the shoe thread.

150 Nevergiveup  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:44:08pm

re: #131 vagabond trader

Heh, makes you wonder what the Obama would have said to the Knesset. Surrender comes to mind.

Last one out please turn off the lights?

151 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:44:25pm

re: #131 vagabond trader

Heh, makes you wonder what the Obama would have said to the Knesset. Surrender comes to mind.

That's the funny thing. He'd have to say the same damn things.

If one of these donk asshats get elected, they're gonna be shocked (SHOCKED I TELL YA') to find that they will be forced to make similar decisions to ones President Bush has made.

152 Ben Hur  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:44:37pm

re: #139 RTLM

Now is the time to pressure Iran directly to change their troubling behavior.

With words.

And they speak as if no one has dealt with Iran before Bush.

153 bosforus  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:44:46pm

The more attention drawn to Obama's middle eastern policy the better, in my opinion. Let him cry all he wants.

154 Ben Hur  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:45:04pm

Bush, apparently, is a Nazi.

155 WrathofG-d  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:45:20pm

re: #150 Nevergiveup

no he would demand they leave the lights on...(see Gaza)

156 experiencedtraveller  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:45:20pm

Iranians are killing Americans who are soldiering in Iraq under a United Nations mandate and with the invitation of the freely elected government of Iraq.

Yet Obama's plan is to cut and run from Iraq and then talk with the Iranian dictatorship.

157 LeftJustAintRight  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:45:32pm

Why does the MSM and the Democrats act like he already POTUS and Bush is undermining his foreign policy ?


Like they did to Bush

158 alegrias  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:45:37pm

Instead of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, I'd like to see American Embassy 444 Days in Tehran Survivors for Truth come out as a group to talk about how ineffectual negotiations with terrorists were in 1979-1980-1981, during their captivity while Carter I waffled & whimpered.

159 Nevergiveup  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:45:43pm

re: #155 WrathofG-d

no he would demand they leave the lights on...(see Gaza)

And hand over the keys!

160 redc1c4  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:45:45pm

re: #82 Maximu§

~whew~

Glad to be outta the Gay Marraige thread....that one is going to get ugly.

and here you'd think it'd be "gay".... %-)

/white smoke

161 JammieWearingFool  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:45:48pm

McCain agrees with Bush.

“Yes, there have been appeasers in the past, and the president is exactly right, and one of them is Neville Chamberlain,'’ Mr. McCain told reporters on his campaign bus after a speech in Columbus, Ohio. “I believe that it’s not an accident that our hostages came home from Iran when President Reagan was president of the United States. He didn’t sit down in a negotiation with the religious extremists in Iran, he made it very clear that those hostages were coming home.'’

Asked if he thought that former President Jimmy Carter, who struggled with the hostage crisis, was an appeaser, Mr. McCain replied: “I don’t know if he was an appeaser or not, but he terribly mishandled the Iranian hostage crisis.'’
Asked if he thought Mr. Obama was an appeaser — the Democratic candidate has said he would be willing to meet with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the president of Iran — Mr. McCain sidestepped and said, “I think that Barack Obama needs to explain why he wants to sit down and talk with a man who is the head of a government that is a state sponsor of terrorism, that is responsible for the killing of brave young Americans, that wants to wipe Israel off the map, who denies the Holocaust. That’s what I think Senator Obama ought to explain to the American people.'’

162 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:45:55pm

Is there any possibility that Hillary has become less left because the of real world reality that she has had to endure over the past 20 years?

Or is it just a BS act?

163 Sharmuta  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:46:07pm

OK- so now we know obama can't take perceived criticism.

So how the hell is he going to handle the Presidency?

164 unreconstructed rebel  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:46:22pm

re: #147 USA

Woohoo!

165 turn  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:46:27pm

re: #119 Ben Hur

*stare*

Blink-blink

Pelosi, we also have sort of a custom of not supporting senators who ignore the advice of our president to not visit terrorist regimes actively working to kill American citizens during a time of war.

166 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:46:32pm

re: #162 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Is there any possibility that Hillary has become less left because the of real world reality that she has had to endure over the past 20 years?

Or is it just a BS act?


I'll take the BS for $1000,FBV.

167 Ben Hur  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:47:03pm

Any foreign leader that rose to the top (one way or another) in a country like Iran, will wipe the floor with someone so inexperienced.

Unless Barry the Settler can convince me that Hawaiin streets were more dangerous and togher than the streets of Cairo, Tehran, Bagdad, etc.

168 coquimbojoe  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:47:19pm

re: #24 drewberto

you would think the left would eventually get tired of all the self important smuggery.

Its all they got.

169 defund_NPR  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:47:33pm

re: #1 Gordon Marock

If the [Persian] shoe fits . . .

170 yesandno  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:47:35pm

re: #12 redstateredneck

Now that John Edwards has thrown in with crybaby, maybe he can sue for defamation of character or something.

I know I'd sue if John Edwards was supporting me!

171 bosforus  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:47:36pm

Did Hannity just mistakingly say "...until Obama is captured and killed"?

172 Peacekeeper  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:47:38pm

Diplomacy: Obama is the only major candidate who supports tough, direct presidential diplomacy with Germany without preconditions. Now is the time to pressure Germany directly to change their troubling behavior. Obama would offer the German regime a choice. If Germany abandons its V-2 program and support for eugenics, we will offer incentives like membership in the League of Nations, economic investments, free movie passes , health club memberships and a move toward normal diplomatic relations. If Germany continues its troubling behavior, we will step up our economic pressure and political isolation. Seeking this kind of comprehensive settlement with Germany is our best way to make progress.

173 Ben Hur  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:47:44pm

re: #157 LeftJustAintRight

Why does the MSM and the Democrats act like he already POTUS and Bush is undermining his foreign policy ?


Like they did to Bush


George W Bush.

The new Jimmy Carter.

174 WrathofG-d  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:47:57pm

re: #161 JammieWearingFool

I think that is exactly what BHO wanted. Anytime he can get McCain to agree with Bush, it gives BHO more ammo to state that McCain is nothing more than 4+ more years of Bush. (which we all know most Americans do not want)

Coming out against this comment gave BHO the opportunity to distance himself from Bush, state his "commitment" to Israel, and get his name out there.

He is the "anti-Bush" let's not forget.

175 Ben Hur  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:48:15pm

And we need to get our of Iraq so we can have more Arabic speaking forces in Iran.

176 Tumulus11  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:48:31pm
'George Bush knows that I have never supported engagement with terrorists ....'

. Mr. Hussein talks and talks and the terrorists know who their friends are.


'We like Mr. Obama, and we hope that he will win the elections.'
// Ahmed Yousuf Speaking for Hamas, Apr. 17, 2008
177 vagabond trader  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:48:54pm

And let's not forget that when questioned by Tim Russert the Obama said he would be willing talk to these guys without any pre conditions.

178 Peacekeeper  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:49:06pm

re: #163 Sharmuta

OK- so now we know obama can't take perceived criticism.

So how the hell is he going to handle the Presidency?

He's going to get all huffy and offended with regimes that bad mouth him. Just like he's doing now.

179 WrathofG-d  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:49:09pm

re: #159 Nevergiveup

I said this above, but personally, with those statement, I thought Bush was speaking directly to the Knesset! (ie: not BO)

180 munchkin  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:49:16pm

Anyone have a transcript of the speech? *bats eyelashes*

181 turn  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:49:19pm

re: #161 JammieWearingFool

McCain agrees with Bush.

Whew! That's a relief.

182 HDrepub  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:49:24pm

re: #97 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

The irony is if that Hillary had run for Senator from Illinois (her home state) instead of NY, there would be no Barack Obama & she'd be on the fast track to the White House.


The best laid plans of mice and men women often go awry don't they?

183 Cicero05  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:49:47pm

Bush obviously didn't get the memo. All criticism of Obama is off limits, and probably racist. (Isn't Bush's use of the word "history" a well-known racist code word meaning that blacks are lazy and not quite as smart or capable as white people? Hmmm.) Even implied criticism is off limits. Even criticism of an abstract political philosophy is forbidden if it's one that St. Obama happens to hold.

Besides, all of this just distracts from the issues of concern to the American people. And it doesn't do anything to help the Obamas' children.

184 JammieWearingFool  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:49:48pm

re: #137 opnion

Yeah but NY^ was available when the Clintons left the White House.
Illinois would have involved a primary against Durbin

She's have had to wait until 2004 and go for the seat left open after Paul Simon retired.

She didn't have time to wait. Grand plan and all that. She could have run in Arkansas at some point but everyone hated her guts there. And she knew that. So she searched around for the dumbest possible population and found herself a new home.

185 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:49:59pm
186 Nevergiveup  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:50:23pm

Just as the Dems and Obama are bitching and moaning about not appeasing the enemy, they just put forward another ridiculous supplemental war funding bill with withdrawal dates. It did not pass, would have been vetoed, and as usual hangs the armed forces out to dry. But don't question their patriotism!

187 lawhawk  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:50:34pm

re: #158 alegrias

Instead of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, I'd like to see American Embassy 444 Days in Tehran Survivors for Truth come out as a group to talk about how ineffectual negotiations with terrorists were in 1979-1980-1981, during their captivity while Carter I waffled & whimpered.

Don't swift boat tase me you racist 'bro. /obama

188 EC Marm  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:50:45pm

re: #84 JammieWearingFool

OK, this one is just begging to be photoshopped.


And take a chance on being labeled for doing such a thing? Ah shucks, what the hell.

189 anotherindyfilmguy  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:50:54pm
“I understand that when you are running for office sometimes you think the world revolves around you. That is not always true and it is not true in this case,” Perino added.

Translation:


“I understand that when you are running for office sometimes you think the world revolves around you. That is not always true and it is not true in this case,” Perino added.

How it will be heard by the egomamaman?


“I understand that when you are running for office sometimes you think the world revolves around you. That is not always true and it is not true in this case,” Perino added.


mebbe...

190 Ben Hur  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:51:09pm

re: #181 turn

Whew! That's a relief.

S

enator John McCain, who has been critical of President Bush on the environment and other policies this week, on Thursday morning wholeheartedly endorsed Mr. Bush’s veiled rebuke in the Israeli Knesset of Senator Barack Obama that talking to “terrorists and radicals'’ was no different than appeasing Hitler and the Nazis.

He could've just as easily, and probably was, referring to Carter.

Carter who has been all over the media in the last 2 weeks after meeting with Hamas and a few more enemies of the US/Israel.

I think he was referring to Carter.

191 budvarakbar  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:51:21pm

Not enuff time here - to read all comments or all of what Bush said --- but the real message here is that we have been talking and talking and talking for 40 years with those SOB's -- look at all the Nobel prizes -- for what - zero - nada -- just more and more billions of our tax dollars poured down that rotten sand hole -- esp that rotten egypt -- AT LEAST BUSH HAS THE BALLS AND BRAINS TO HAVE CAUGHT ON THAT HE DOES NOT NEED A NOBEL PRIZE - ala jimmah and the arafish

192 opnion  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:51:25pm

Wouldn't you love to see a comprehensive list of Obama donors?

193 alegrias  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:51:39pm

re: #161 JammieWearingFool

McCain agrees with Bush.

* * *
Oddly enough, half the country think Carter & Obama & Pelosi & Kerry and Neville Chamberlain's approach of negotiating with the enemy, without preconditions, is just what the doctor ordered.

194 Russkilitlover  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:51:39pm

So basically, Pres Bush made a sweeping generalization that could encompass all left-leaning appeasers of all time and BHO grabbed it and laser focused it on himself. Good job, BHO. Way to judge the situation and thought behind the commentary. You are a fool.

195 galloping granny  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:51:46pm

Barrack Hussein Obama seems awfully hypersensitive about President Bush's perfectly appropriate comment for a guy who is friends with Farrakhan and Jeremiah Wright, counts a co-founder of the Weather Underground among his strongest supporters and has several times had to remove links to various suspect organizations from his website.

Sounds like maybe that shoe fits pretty darned well.

196 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:51:49pm

re: #175 Ben Hur

And we need to get our of Iraq so we can have more Arabic speaking forces in Iran.

LOL!

197 gop_patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:52:03pm

re: #188 EC Marm

And take a chance on being labeled for doing such a thing? Ah shucks, what the hell.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

198 joncelli  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:52:08pm

re: #65 MandyManners

Can't have it. I'm not done clinging to it.

199 brent  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:52:08pm

Enough about me, what do you think about me?

/Obama off.

200 WrathofG-d  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:52:12pm

re: #190 Ben Hur

He could've just as easily, and probably was, referring to Carter.

Carter who has been all over the media in the last 2 weeks after meeting with Hamas and a few more enemies of the US/Israel.

I think he was referring to Carter.

I think he was referring to Olmert and the exact people he was talking to. (Gaza, Amona, Shalit, Goldwasser...)

201 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:52:16pm
202 lawhawk  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:52:21pm

re: #179 WrathofG-d

I said this above, but personally, with those statement, I thought Bush was speaking directly to the Knesset! (ie: not BO)

And if that's the case, then it would be a direct criticism of Olmert negotiating with terrorists in Hamas, though that's part of the US policy to get a peace plan going forward by the end of 2009. After all, who exactly would Israel be negotiating with if it isn't Hamas and Fatah since they each control Gaza and most of the West Bank, respectively.

203 JammieWearingFool  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:52:34pm

re: #188 EC Marm

And take a chance on being labeled for doing such a thing? Ah shucks, what the hell.

Ha!

I knew you'd come through.

204 jamgarr  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:52:35pm

Worth repeating:

“I understand that when you are running for office sometimes you think the world revolves around you. That is not always true and it is not true in this case,” Perino added.

205 Gretchen  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:53:04pm

Lefties go insane when Hillary Clinton or Obama talk to the Great Satan -- Fox News, but think reasoned dialog will get Ahmadinejad and Hamas to give up all this crazy "insurgent" stuff and play nice.

206 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:53:15pm

re: #192 opnion

Wouldn't you love to see a comprehensive list of Obama donors?

Start here?

207 jamgarr  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:53:42pm

re: #183 Cicero05

Even criticism of an abstract political philosophy is forbidden if it's one that St. Obama happens to hold.

What you said.

208 defund_NPR  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:53:43pm

re: #97 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

The irony is if that Hillary had run for Senator from Illinois (her home state) instead of NY, there would be no Barack Obama & she'd be on the fast track to the White House.

And a certain ward in south Chicago would have the best damned organized community in the continental U.S.

209 turn  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:53:43pm

re: #190 Ben Hur

He could've just as easily, and probably was, referring to Carter.

Carter who has been all over the media in the last 2 weeks after meeting with Hamas and a few more enemies of the US/Israel.

I think he was referring to Carter.

Yeah, that shoe fits Carter too ...

210 redstateredneck  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:53:46pm
211 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:53:54pm

re: #198 joncelli

Can't have it. I'm not done clinging to it.

Between that, your Bible and your guns, you must have three arms.

212 HDrepub  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:53:55pm

re: #162 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
re: #166 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

re: #162 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Is there any possibility that Hillary has become less left because the of real world reality that she has had to endure over the past 20 years?

Or is it just a BS act?


I'll take the BS for $1000,FBV.

It's BS act no doubt. She learned well from Billy Jeff and Al Bore the art of finger in the wind politics.

213 WrathofG-d  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:54:20pm

re: #202 lawhawk

Wait, you talking about the America-loving, moderate Arabs, of Fatah?

214 vagabond trader  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:54:34pm

re: #206 MandyManners

That is one disturbing photo.

215 bosforus  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:55:07pm

re: #192 opnion

Wouldn't you love to see a comprehensive list of Obama donors?

Probably looks very similar to a comprehensive list of people who regularly play the lottery. Little expense hoping for a big payoff.

216 opnion  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:55:28pm

re: #195 galloping granny

Barrack Hussein Obama seems awfully hypersensitive about President Bush's perfectly appropriate comment for a guy who is friends with Farrakhan and Jeremiah Wright, counts a co-founder of the Weather Underground among his strongest supporters and has several times had to remove links to various suspect organizations from his website.


Sounds like maybe that shoe fits pretty darned well.

Yeah but he wears a flag lapel pin now. His Campaign is actually considering having him stand straight with his hand over his heart for the anthem. Could ruin his image though

217 alegrias  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:55:45pm

re: #162 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Is there any possibility that Hillary has become less left because the of real world reality that she has had to endure over the past 20 years?

Or is it just a BS act?

* * *
It does seem like Hillary & Co. have learned the left now hate her, and people who watch Fox News at least will listen to her and debate respectfully.

218 Russkilitlover  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:55:50pm

re: #127 JammieWearingFool

Pure hilarity. Kerry, Pelosi and Biden.

Bush didn't have to name names. The appeasers know who they are.

I heard Kerry this morning. He actually said that well, Reagan sat with Gorbachev after calling them the Evil Empire. (Something like that). Completely missing the point that Reagan got up and walked out on Gorby at their first meeting. Libs all over the world practically keeled over - now that was audacity.

219 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:55:57pm
220 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:56:09pm

re: #177 vagabond trader

And let's not forget that when questioned by Tim Russert the Obama said he would be willing talk to these guys without any pre conditions.

THAT'S NOT FAIR! Out of context! He only speaks "out of context."

221 WrathofG-d  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:56:26pm

re: #206 MandyManners

Start here?

BHO is the progressive candidate who is against Corporation involvement in politics...."Change!"....oh wait...who was on that donor list?

222 anotherindyfilmguy  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:56:29pm

re: #194 Russkilitlover

A very Barney Fife (?) moment on the Osomanator's part... grab pistol, pull trigger and as the bullet hits foot remember that step 2 was supposed to be taking pistol out of holster before shooting...

It's like he's yelling "hey, he just insulted idiots and I'm not sure that's nice, being an idiot an all..."

223 beens21  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:56:50pm

I went to huffpo and read the quotes from Pelosi.Reid,Dean etc. and the comments.BDS has made these people certifiably insane.

224 opnion  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:56:51pm

re: #206 MandyManners

Start here?

Did Bin Laden use an alias?

225 Nevergiveup  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:57:27pm

re: #200 WrathofG-d

Wrath, i normally agree with you almost all the time, but I doubt The President would lecture his hosts on this type of visit and in public. And he was definitely talking about both the left wing in the US and Europe. I would think it was aimed more at Carter even than Obama.

226 galloping granny  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:57:29pm

re: #205 Gretchen

Lefties go insane when Hillary Clinton or Obama talk to the Great Satan -- Fox News, but think reasoned dialog will get Ahmadinejad and Hamas to give up all this crazy "insurgent" stuff and play nice.

I don't know why. Did you hear the complete pass ED Hill gave Obama on the "sweetie" comment? Compared it to Southern children being taught to call adults "ma'am." Trouble is, "sweetie" is not part of Hawai'ian, Chicagoan or Kenyan culture - and is flatly inappropriate from a man to a woman in a professional relationship, no matter where you are from. I could hardly believe my ears!

227 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:57:58pm

re: #188 EC Marm

And take a chance on being labeled for doing such a thing? Ah shucks, what the hell.

Bookmarked!

228 Ben Hur  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:58:18pm

re: #225 Nevergiveup

Wrath, i normally agree with you almost all the time, but I doubt The President would lecture his hosts on this type of visit and in public. And he was definitely talking about both the left wing in the US and Europe. I would think it was aimed more at Carter even than Obama.


But I'm sure there were quite a few MKs in that house who did think, "Um....WE'RE talking to them..."

By the way, any news if Tibi was in the room?

229 galloping granny  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:58:20pm

re: #216 opnion

Yeah but he wears a flag lapel pin now. His Campaign is actually considering having him stand straight with his hand over his heart for the anthem. Could ruin his image though

I did see that he is now again wearing a pin. Too little, too late and he made too much of a stink in the first place. Hypocrite!

230 WrathofG-d  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:58:51pm

re: #224 opnion

No he did what he usually does...sent Tom Hagen....er I mean George Soros.

231 Eowyn2  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:59:37pm

drive by....

“I understand that when you are running for office sometimes you think the world revolves around you. That is not always true and it is not true in this case,” Perino added

now THAT was a slam against the o-man

232 WrathofG-d  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:59:44pm

re: #225 Nevergiveup

Ok, ok, ok. I didn't REALLY think it was a speech to Olmert & Co., but it could have been. (should have been -gotta keep the tip of the spear sharp)

233 gop_patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 12:59:56pm

re: #226 galloping granny

Who did Obama call "sweetie"?

234 alegrias  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:00:02pm

re: #178 Peacekeeper

He's going to get all huffy and offended with regimes that bad mouth him. Just like he's doing now.

* * *
Au Contraire my friend.

Democrats like and relish opportunities to hang out with regimes whose motto is "death" to our country. Come speak to us at Columbia U, please! Can we have more slaps, Senyor Commandante Fidel? Hey Hermano Hugo Chavez, que pasa? Isn't Bush Loco? Si, se puede negociar con anti-Americanos all day.

235 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:00:05pm

re: #214 vagabond trader

That is one disturbing photo.

Yes, it is. Didja' see Soros sitting down?

236 ArmyWife  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:00:46pm

re: #83 MandyManners

he was frustrated with me, so he asked that I "please stop it".

Brother obviously has cojones of steel.

/ ;)

237 Nevergiveup  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:00:49pm

re: #232 WrathofG-d

Ok, ok, ok. I didn't REALLY think it was a speech to Olmert & Co., but it could have been. (should have been -gotta keep the tip of the spear sharp)

You want the 101st to kidnap Olmert? Hum, maybe.

238 nyc redneck  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:01:05pm

obama himself has said he will meet w/ all the thugs and dictators of the m.e. he can't wait to sit down w/ tyrants w/out preconditions. he loves the false comfort of appeasement. so is he saying he's not gong to do that now? did he just flip his waffle.

239 vagabond trader  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:01:06pm

Man, talk about over the top reactions. The dems should pop a few collective midol tabs.

240 sojerofgod  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:01:44pm

I know I've been saying that Barack is an empty suit for a while now, but I didn't realize there was an itty bitty baby inside that suit coat.

I'd say something like "GET IN MAH BELLY" but I'd probably throw him back up.


Man I can't believe how the are all whining today. I do believe Mr. Pres struck a nerve...

241 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:01:45pm

re: #221 WrathofG-d

BHO is the progressive candidate who is against Corporation involvement in politics...."Change!"....oh wait...who was on that donor list?

That article is scary.

242 Huggybear  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:01:55pm

Slightly on topic, Imadinnerjackets latest threat Iran threatens British Embassy?

243 consanescerion  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:01:56pm

Obama deeply resembles that remark!

The Neville Chamberlain of our age. Peace for our time, baby.

244 alegrias  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:02:10pm

re: #187 lawhawk

Don't swift boat tase me you racist 'bro. /obama

* * *
But would he say that to
"Blindfolded Hostage Survivors for Truth"?

245 Nevergiveup  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:02:29pm

re: #239 vagabond trader

Man, talk about over the top reactions. The dems should pop a few collective midol tabs.

Most of them old hippies did some pretty powerful drugs in the day. I doubt at this point midol is going to do the trick.

246 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:02:31pm

re: #224 opnion

Did Bin Laden use an alias?

George Soros is his front man.

247 amphibian  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:02:34pm
Instead of tough talk and no action, we need to do what Kennedy, Nixon and Reagan did and use all elements of American power —

And pray tell, o Ears, what might that be?

including tough, principled, and direct diplomacy - to pressure countries like Iran and Syria.

So like, writing them a strongly-worded email, or making a speech that calls them "typical Muhammedan thugs, just like my old granny"? OK, gotcha!

George Bush knows that I have never supported engagement with terrorists

Well, at least this is good to hear. I hadn't had Hussein down as having much of a sense of humor, but here's evidence to the contrary.

Oh yeh, and, waaaaah! Cry me a river, ya commie!

248 madisonsfriend  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:03:04pm

re: #79 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Will you just shup up and finish your waffle!

So are waffles now banned for Lizards? I haven't eaten any in a while- too much dough

249 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:03:05pm

re: #240 sojerofgod

I can't believe I haven't already say that.

Zings missed make me sad.

Heh.

250 WrathofG-d  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:03:19pm

re: #237 Nevergiveup

Last time I commented on what I wanted to be done to Olmert, I was threatend with lifetime banning from LGF.

so....no comment!

251 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:03:36pm

re: #249 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Nice use of the English language there idiot!

252 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:04:14pm

re: #236 ArmyWife

he was frustrated with me, so he asked that I "please stop it".

Brother obviously has cojones of steel.

/ ;)

More like his mommie's steel collander on his head.

253 madisonsfriend  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:04:17pm

re: #251 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Nice use of the English language there idiot!


Were you talking to yourself?

254 Tigger2005  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:04:31pm

We were able to negotiate with some effectiveness with the Soviets because they weren't totally crazy and didn't want to be blown up any more than we did. I can't blame anyone for negotiating with them, but I wonder if, in the end, all it did was keep the Communist regime from collapsing sooner than it did. I guess we can never know for sure. We must have done something right, though, because we're all still here.

255 bosforus  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:04:43pm

Lori Drew, worst person on the internet, and frankly, one of the worst people on earth, was indicted today.

256 Spiritualized  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:04:54pm
“Some seem to believe we should negotiate with terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along,”

This would mean a whole lot more if he didn't hold hands with the Saudis and cosy up to Israel's illegally-squatting, terrorist neighbours.

‘Lord, if only I could have talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided.’

Yeah I'm hearing that same bullshit now though, only replace the word Hitler with Arafat/Abbas.

257 vagabond trader  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:04:57pm

re: #235 MandyManners

Detest that guy. His old man saved him from the Nazi's in Hungary by fostering him out to a Christian. This particular foster father was a collection agent for the Nazi's and used to take Georgie on his property confiscation rounds. In an interview this Soros, a piece of pathological garbage, states he has no guilt feelings about these activities. **spit**

258 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:04:58pm

re: #253 madisonsfriend

Were you talking to yourself?

Yep.

259 rawmuse  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:05:05pm

This was like showing a crucifix to a vampire.

260 joncelli  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:05:06pm

re: #211 MandyManners

You obviously haven't seen my latest picture.

261 alegrias  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:05:23pm

re: #194 Russkilitlover

So basically, Pres Bush made a sweeping generalization that could encompass all left-leaning appeasers of all time and BHO grabbed it and laser focused it on himself. Good job, BHO. Way to judge the situation and thought behind the commentary. You are a fool.

* * *
Keith Olbermann types will LOVE OBAMA more for bashing Bush.

THis is win-win for Obama, because his blind followers think it's a victory over Bush and it didn't cost Obama one red cent.

262 madisonsfriend  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:05:28pm

When do we start talking about Johnny Depp?

263 sojerofgod  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:05:33pm

re: #249 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Heh, Indeed.

264 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:06:03pm

re: #257 vagabond trader

Detest that guy. His old man saved him from the Nazi's in Hungary by fostering him out to a Christian. This particular foster father was a collection agent for the Nazi's and used to take Georgie on his property confiscation rounds. In an interview this Soros, a piece of pathological garbage, states he has no guilt feelings about these activities. **spit**

Some victims wind up identifying with evil.

265 descolada9  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:06:28pm

Hey, Barak, you blithering moron of a Harvard grad, take a look at history. How often do talks with those out to destroy you or out to conquer ever produce squat? Maybe 1% of the time, if that. The E3 spent years talking with Iran, what did it get them? Nada, zilch, crappola!

Why are we having probelsm with NATO countries not supporting our efforts better? Well, about half of them have unionized militaries and the other half are squeamish wimps.

So what is Barry O going to do once Hezb'allah takes over Lebanon? Talk them to death?

266 offendi  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:06:35pm

Although I can snark about Obama, this is actually pretty disturbing. You have a guy running for President of this country who can't deal with adverse comments not about him. How is this clown going to deal with ruthless and unprincipled leaders of other countries that will attempt to impose their will on us? Simply put, with Obama as President, they will.

Barrack Obama is, when all is said and done, a highly educated man ,polished to a sheen,whose only strong suit is rhetoric. He lacks the substance, the character, the experience to protect this country in a very uncertain world.

While he is safe as a Senator among many, he is not as Commander-In-Chief of one nation.

267 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:06:46pm

re: #260 joncelli

You obviously haven't seen my latest picture.

John and Kate sure could do with having that body!

268 Raven1  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:07:12pm

So. The Iranians don't want to be called racist, that would really hurt.

269 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:07:38pm

re: #266 offendi

One little dingy there for ya on your post. Infinity dingys here!

Well said.

270 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:09:03pm

re: #262 madisonsfriend

When do we start talking about Johnny Depp?

Don't fuck with my Capt. Jack!

271 alegrias  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:09:20pm

re: #218 Russkilitlover

I heard Kerry this morning. He actually said that well, Reagan sat with Gorbachev after calling them the Evil Empire. (Something like that). Completely missing the point that Reagan got up and walked out on Gorby at their first meeting. Libs all over the world practically keeled over - now that was audacity.

* * *
Also AUDACIOUS, was when Reagan fired the air traffic controllers in 1981, his first summer in office after having been shot in March.

Reagan firing a union shocked libs and leftists all over the world.

Bwahaha, negotitiations! You're fired!

272 jamgarr  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:09:22pm

re: #255 bosforus

Lori Drew, worst person on the internet, and frankly, one of the worst people on earth, was indicted today.


I agree that she's a scumbag - not so sure that I agree that she did anything criminal - but it is California law we're talking about.

273 Squirrelguy  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:09:24pm

re: #248 madisonsfriend

So are waffles now banned for Lizards? I haven't eaten any in a while- too much dough

I prefer bisquits & redeye gray myself. With a thick side of country ham. And three eggs, over easy. Oh, and some hash browns.

274 Kaijin  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:09:26pm

re: #28 Peacekeeper

I love it

275 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:10:00pm

re: #266 offendi

Barrack Obama is, when all is said and done, a highly educated man ,polished to a sheen,whose only strong suit is rhetoric. He lacks the substance, the character, the experience to protect this country in a very uncertain world.

276 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:10:18pm
"...including tough, principled, and direct diplomacy combat with major air strikes to start."

Then I might start listening.

277 Nevergiveup  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:10:37pm

re: #256 Spiritualized

Yeah I'm hearing that same bullshit now though, only replace the word Hitler with Arafat/Abbas.

We - spell Clinton- negotiated with Arafat till the cows came home. That worked out great?

278 EC Marm  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:11:22pm

re: #227 MandyManners

Bookmarked!


Good idea. I have an idea that one will come in handy for the next buncha months. Especially in the weeks prior to the election when Barry gets desperate and his poll numbers drop through the floor.

279 Flyover Tim  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:12:15pm
Some seem to believe we should negotiate with terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along

What makes the libs assume he isn't talking about Dr. Condoleezza Rice and our own State Dept.?

280 redstateredneck  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:12:46pm

O.M.G.
I just ran to the post office and on the way, I heard a reporter on the radio say,
"Earlier today in a speech, President Bush managed to insult Barack Obama without actually using his name..."
I kid you not.

281 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:12:59pm

re: #250 WrathofG-d

Well, I'm not suggesting anyone do something about Olmerde (except vote him and Kadima out), but sometimes I think the best thing he could do for Israel is to be at the same place and time as a Kassam or Grad missile hit.
Israel would replace him with a vertebrate, and they'd have to retaliate and take out the Hamas leadership.

282 cartoonboy  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:13:50pm

Are you talkin' to me? I'm the only one here - you talkin' to me?

283 theheat  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:14:39pm

In the home stretch, he has to rally the greatest majority of those with BDS to side with him instead of Hillary. The BDS is everywhere, it's simply a matter of which Democrat can drag the highest numbers to support them instead of "the other guy".

Hillary needs to step up her whining and throw some more Bush insults out there if she's gonna catch him. (Actually, I don't think she can, anyway.) Between Hillary and Obama, I'd rather see the old gal trounce him.

Meanwhile, it appears McCain can sit back and sip Pina Coladas while the two donkeys circle each other in the shark tank. It's funny, really.

284 yma o hyd  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:15:45pm

re: #192 opnion

Wouldn't you love to see a comprehensive list of Obama donors?

I would - at least a break-down of where all these 'grass roots' donations are coming from.

285 Russkilitlover  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:15:57pm

re: #206 MandyManners

I find that a very disturbing pic of BHO. Usually, when people start thinking of themselves as some sort of god, they get wrapped up and hauled to the loony bin. BHO is falling for his supporters' own hype.

286 unreconstructed rebel  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:16:23pm

re: #283 theheat

Problem is, McCain is getting zero air-time during the demo mud-fight.

287 alegrias  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:16:25pm

re: #275 MandyManners

* * *
Clinton II.

Eight years of soaring speeches signifying nothing. Telegraphing WEAKNESS!

288 madisonsfriend  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:18:19pm

re: #270 MandyManners

Don't fuck with my Capt. Jack!

I would if i could but I am pretty sure he wouldn't be interested.

289 Dad O' Blondes  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:19:31pm

The Audacity of Self-Centeredness.

Change!

Waffles!

.

290 looking closely  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:19:44pm

This whole thing is a farce.

As if there haven't been multinational negotiations with Iran for FIVE YEARS over their illegal nuke programs already?

Didn't Ahmedinejad already explicitly say that he wasn't a small child that was going to be talked or bribed out of his nuke program?

But Obama thinks *HE* has something new to say on this that hasn't been said before?

As if there is no way to communicate with Iran except by face-to-face negotiations? (No back channels, no shuttle diplomacy, etc).

Obama doesn't "get" one important thing. The POTUS is the leader of the free world. "Face time" with the President is a PRIVILEGE, and spending it on thugs like Iran's theocratically picked leaders both legitimizes them AND demoralizes the internal resistance.

Bush isn't meeting with Iran because he is stupid or stubborn; its because it a BAD MOVE.

291 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:20:25pm
292 cygnus  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:20:28pm

re: #149 unreconstructed rebel

Stop. This is the shoe thread.

Shoe lace.

293 Nevergiveup  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:21:33pm

re: #290 looking closely

This whole thing is a farce.

As if there haven't been multinational negotiations with Iran for FIVE YEARS over their illegal nuke programs already?

Didn't Ahmedinejad already explicitly say that he wasn't a small child that was going to be talked or bribed out of his nuke program?

But Obama thinks *HE* has something new to say on this that hasn't been said before?

As if there is no way to communicate with Iran except by face-to-face negotiations? (No back channels, no shuttle diplomacy, etc).

Obama doesn't "get" one important thing. The POTUS is the leader of the free world. "Face time" with the President is a PRIVILEGE, and spending it on thugs like Iran's theocratically picked leaders both legitimizes them AND demoralizes the internal resistance.

Bush isn't meeting with Iran because he is stupid or stubborn; its because it a BAD MOVE.

Well said. You are obliviously a lot more qualified to be President than Obama.

294 Peacekeeper  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:22:03pm

Too bad Cox and Forkum aren't around. I think Obama musta done a spit take watching this speech on TV...

295 vestalmiss  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:23:21pm

BO better get a grip, grab his balls or something because he is going to have to face criticism thrown his way all day everyday. Welcome to Politics 101. Barry please, quit whining and learn how to walk through these little problems with some kind of dignity.

296 Russkilitlover  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:23:51pm

re: #271 alegrias

* * *
Also AUDACIOUS, was when Reagan fired the air traffic controllers in 1981, his first summer in office after having been shot in March.

Reagan firing a union shocked libs and leftists all over the world.

Bwahaha, negotitiations! You're fired!

Ahhh...the good ol' days. I can't, even with a lot of liquor, imagine BHO ever having the balls to....you know....defend our country at home and abroad.

297 Peacekeeper  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:23:59pm

He must have had a massive hissy. All his people scrambled for their phones to call media outlets and denounce, denounce, denounce...

298 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:24:20pm

Don't have time to read all the notes.
Obama might be crying, but he IS an appeaser.
Worse than Chamberlain, who at least regretted what he had done.

299 Peacekeeper  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:25:01pm

Hil and Bill are laughing their asses off.

300 abolitionist  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:26:08pm

Only slightly off-topic - several pics of George and Laura Bush, with Ehud and Aliza Olmert, at Masada.

301 offendi  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:26:51pm

Another imaginary but apt letter?

Dear Candidate -Apostate Barry:

Hi, it's me Ahamdini again. I have to take out time from planning Iranian world domination to write you- chill. Why are you getting so upset about maybe being called an appeaser ? That horrendous one Bush will be leaving soon and you will soon be withdrawing all those American soldiers in Iraq that scare us and keep us in line, as you promised.

When you are elected I will give the new American Ambassador to Iran, Jimmy Carter, our requirements for a friendly and fruitful relationship. If you know what's good for your country you better read them. We certainly agree with your comments that your name and worldliness will help us with our agenda world peace. Well I have to go back in the well with the hidden Mahdi now.

Ahamdini

302 nyc redneck  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:30:09pm

re: #206 MandyManners

Start here?

that is a scary photo. look at soros sitting there like a vampire. and the empty headed puppet obama standing like he has a point of view.. if obama becomes potus, soros will try to corn hog him like the tliban took over afghanistan.

303 Ward Cleaver  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:30:14pm

Wow, the Obamaton hasn't made it up here yet?

304 yma o hyd  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:30:49pm

re: #242 Huggybear

Slightly on topic, Imadinnerjackets latest threat Iran threatens British Embassy?

Had to watch that - oh dearieme ..
Anybody know how a fox can also be a hyena (thats England, btw)?
I think their brains are so confused with all the taqqiya, the don't even know anymore what they themselves have been doing or saying a month/year ago ..

305 bosforus  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:33:06pm

re: #272 jamgarr


I agree that she's a scumbag - not so sure that I agree that she did anything criminal - but it is California law we're talking about.

I don't know that she did anything criminal either. But I have no problem with some smart lawyers figuring out a way to make it so.

306 offendi  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:36:12pm

re: #300 abolitionist

The MSM wishes to portray Israel as weak and questioning at 60, but the morale is very high and Israeli youth volunteer in significant numbers for combat and special and highly dangerous units of the Israel Defense Forces. A good number are religious youth and products of the Kibbutzim.

The Tank Corps of the IDF was always sworn in at Masada. As part of their pledge the would recite " Masada, lo tipul shaynit- Masada will not fall again".

I urge all LGF to visit Israel at some time or another if they have not done so.

307 looking closely  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:38:41pm

re: #293 Nevergiveup

Well said. You are obliviously a lot more qualified to be President than Obama.


Maybe so, but I don't "want" it. (Although I would reluctantly take on the responsibility if it would ensure that Obama couldn't :-).

This is my question for Obama:

Under what circumstances would you be prepared to use American military force to ensure that Iran does not develop a nuclear weapon.

What is your "red line"?


Its a pretty straightforward question (and IMO perhaps the single most important question to be asked of ANY Presidential candidate right now), but I bet Obama's head would explode if he were asked.

I am sincerely concerned that Obama actually has NO "red line" and that Iran with nukes is, therefore, a foregone conclusion under an Obama Presidency.

The likely outcome of that "policy" is war with Iran, boiling down to war with a nuclear Iran or war with a non-nuclear Iran. Middle options are evaporating pretty rapidly.

308 offendi  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:39:26pm

re: #275 MandyManners

It is, what it is.

309 EE  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:42:25pm

The president denounces the attitude of trying to appease unappeasable enemies, and Obama objects. That means that Obama feels that what he means by "change" is exactly that: trying to appease unappeasable enemies.

This is like somebody shouting out in a crowd: "the thief's hair is on fire". And then one person clutches at his head.

Nobody mentioned Obama. Certainly the president did not mention Obama. But when the president decries trying to appease the unappeasable, it's Obama who cries out that he is being attacked. And it's the Obama supporters who cry out that Obama is being attacked.

If the shoe fits, then wear it.

Obama the crybaby is the advocate for a wimpish attitude toward enemies. He knows it, and his supporters know it. And now everybody should realize it.

310 clydejumper  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:44:33pm

The truth hurts Mr. I wanna be president. Now get your panties out of a wad and move on to some more of it's not fair and don't call me that.

311 LeonidasOfSparta  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:44:50pm

well BHussein, if the foo s**ts, wear it.

I like Dana's remark: “I understand that when you are running for office sometimes you think the world revolves around you."

Finally, as I am sure many posters will have said, what Bush said was absolutely TRUE- regardless of tantrums, whining, whinging, and fussing. Why is it so hard for the loonies to look at this honestly? Oh that's right....they don't KNOW honesty from applesauce.

312 Irenike  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:54:41pm

Hussein Obama says: "George Bush knows that I have never supported engagement with terrorists."

Hussein Obama is a liar. He has said repeatedly that he would sit down and talk with whatever world leader wanted to sit down with him, no strings attached.

Maybe his definition of "engagement" is different from mine. Yikes. I shudder to think what he might mean by the word.

313 Silhouette  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:57:05pm

re: #312 Irenike

Hussein Obama says: "George Bush knows that I have never supported engagement with terrorists."

If Obama is right and George Bush knows this, then clearly Bush wasn't talking about Obama when Bush said that "some" want to negotiate with terrorists.

Belied by his own logic.

314 WayDownSouthInBama  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:00:19pm

I hear the distinct barking of the many guilty dogs.

315 Is it me?  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:01:03pm

#242 Huggybear

WTF?!
What on earth is Dinnerjacket going on about. I know the Iranians have called Britain *the old Fox* for a long time but he talks and it makes no sense. If he was threatening the British Embassy I can only assume it's because he can't threaten yours anymore - so as we are your closest allies he's taking a pop at us instead.
He kept talking about Lebanon, but it's Hezballah who is interfering in the governance of that country, so by extension it includes Syria and Iran. Hezballah is Irans' granny annex.

I'll have to look at the papers tomorrow and see what they make of it.
If I'm lucky someone will translate his ramblings for me.
*snort*

316 FrogMarch  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:01:26pm

Touchy leftwingers. What - hit a nerve?

HEH -

317 Alibaba  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:08:04pm

Meanwhile, Joe Biden and his hairplugs are throwing a hissy fit over the comment and even using four letter words. Oh, bahahaha, Joe and Barry Hussein - show them how tough you are!re: #7 turn

318 Alibaba  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:09:17pm

re: #313 Silhouette

If Obama is right and George Bush knows this, then clearly Bush wasn't talking about Obama when Bush said that "some" want to negotiate with terrorists.

Belied by his own logic.


Oh, really - this from the guy who wants to sit down with imadinnerjacket and the rest of the ayatollahs and has Brezinski as a loser/advisiro? If the shoe fits, Barry Hussein . . .

319 Alibaba  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:11:16pm

with or without arugula?re: #43 cartoonboy

320 incanus  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:22:09pm

re: #163 Sharmuta

OK- so now we know obama can't take perceived criticism.

So how the hell is he going to handle the Presidency?

Perhaps he'll take a page from Jesse Ventura, call hi opponents "jackals", and then just stand around mum and nod or shake his head at press conferences.

321 Archelon  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:29:20pm

If you throw a rock at a pack of dogs, the one that yelps is the one you hit. Obama gives himself away.

322 abolitionist  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:39:30pm

re: #312 Irenike

Hussein Obama says: "George Bush knows that I have never supported engagement with terrorists."

Hussein Obama is a liar. He has said repeatedly that he would sit down and talk with whatever world leader wanted to sit down with him, no strings attached.

Maybe his definition of "engagement" is different from mine. Yikes. I shudder to think what he might mean by the word.

Obama- I Will Have Credibility With Muslim World

"I would come to meetings with world leaders, with uh, with them understanding that I was opposed to this war in Iraq from the start, that I had consistently described a US foreign policy that puts diplomacy at the forefront....
...I think the world would see me as a different kind of president, somebody who can see the world through their eyes."

323 vagabond trader  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:47:21pm

Jeesh, what a pitbull this Susan Rice is, all in a tizzy defending the Obama on Fox. Speaking of bitter and clinging.

324 madmax517  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:47:40pm

re: #87 opnion

Yes, BusHitler is stupid and diabolical and let's our soldiers die in vain.
Funny though how the Obama-fellating media spins the facts or ignores them completely.

Any US military death is tragic, but if we compare total military deaths between the Clinton years and Bush years (with 8 months left to go of course) 14,000 died under Clinton and 7932 under Bush II. In just the year 1980 under carter, 2392 met their deaths.

Do you think that Kos/Huff/Moron.org/Codepinko are intellectually honest enough to recognize the facts? They all have their own agendas.

You look at history and wonder why the mutant left doesn't see how badly communism and socialist truly suck. Compare East and West Germany before they reunited, prosperity in South LKorea vs. massive starvation in the north and so on endlessly.

Yes, those brave Arab warriors are great fighting machines and have allah leading them onwards to eventual victory over the evil baby-eating of arabs Jooos. Yes, really great at blowing themselves up and living in shitholes while their despotic leaders rake in billions in oil monies. Obamawad and J Carter are birds of a feather and hopefully wilboth one day be festering in hell amongst the dingleberries of Luicfer himself, hopefully while being sodomized by arafish himself.

325 madmax517  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:49:15pm

re: #324 madmax517

forgot link to stats
[Link: www.fas.org...]

326 Cpt. Disco  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:53:00pm

re: #187 lawhawk

ROFLMAO!

327 chanticleer  Thu, May 15, 2008 3:10:03pm

The stuck pig squeals.

328 Da Coyote  Thu, May 15, 2008 3:14:39pm

"...with a typically dishonest headline: Bush Compares Obama To Nazi Appeasers."
The article may be dishonest, but I agree with the headline: Obama is EXACTLy comparable to Nazi appeasers. He's a black Chamberlin... without the advantage of a good education.

329 Slumbering Behemoth  Thu, May 15, 2008 3:15:54pm

Obama:

“It is sad that President Bush would use a speech to the Knesset on the 6Oth anniversary of Israel’s independence to launch a false political attack.

Bush:

“Some seem to believe we should negotiate with terrorists and radicals, as if some ingenious argument will persuade them they have been wrong all along,” the President said to the country’s legislative body, “We have heard this foolish delusion before. As Nazi tanks crossed into Poland in 1939, an American senator declared: ‘Lord, if only I could have talked to Hitler, all of this might have been avoided.’ We have an obligation to call this what it is –- the false comfort of appeasement, which has been repeatedly discredited by history.”

Sorry Barack, you're full of it. That was not a "false political attack" but a statement of a bald-faced f*cking fact. It's sad that your RCI has progressed to such a stage that you can't see the difference.

330 Dasher  Thu, May 15, 2008 3:20:04pm

I just have to get on the band wagon: If the shoe fits

331 gmsc  Thu, May 15, 2008 3:30:14pm

Look at it this way:

1) Bush condemns the concept of appeasement without mentioning any names.

2) Obama stupidly jumps up and says, "Hey! He's talking about me!"

3) Dems have to jump in to do damage control.

332 Darwin Akbar  Thu, May 15, 2008 4:31:47pm

If the white flag fits, wave it, B. Hussein.

333 Naso Tang  Thu, May 15, 2008 4:34:53pm

Shouldn't the crybaby picture at least be half black? //

334 realwest  Thu, May 15, 2008 4:50:08pm

test

335 hippieforlife  Thu, May 15, 2008 4:55:55pm

What an ego Mr. Obama has. I read the entire speech and his name was not mentioned once. The Senator referred to was not by name or political party.

But the Republicans are the only people who "take things out of context". The appeasement idea is not new but it is still very dangerous.

As has been said here: "if the shoe fits..."

336 Lonzo  Thu, May 15, 2008 5:28:11pm

CNN reporter Brown (the woman) just said the same thing (during the 8:00 PM news cast), that President Bush launched a political attack on Obama by mentioning appeasement.

337 EE  Thu, May 15, 2008 6:00:17pm

Charles Krauthammer, on Fox News Special Report with Brit Hume, May 15 (today):
"You know, Obama and his defenders here are really a piece of work. Remember how all this started. We saw it earlier in the show in the clip in which he answered the question in that debate: Would you speak with these thugs who run Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, etc? He said "yes" and then he immediately said that he was saying this because it is "a central diplomatic principle of this administration not to talk to them," and that, he said, is "ridiculous and disgraceful". That was in his answer. He's repeated that in one form or another at least 20 times over the course of this campaign. So HE makes it an issue of attack on the Bush Administration. It's a diplomacy. And if the President defends himself and defends the policy of not speaking with these thugs, all of a sudden it's illegitimate, disgraceful and unworthy of the president. OF COURSE HE SHOULD DEFEND HIMSELF ON THIS. AND OF COURSE HE SHOULD INCLUDE OBAMA, WITH JIMMY CARTER WHO SPOKE WITH HAMAS, AND WITH PELOSI WHO WENT CAP IN HAND TO DAMASCUS AND SPOKE WITH ASSAD."

Krauthammer: "And the question John McCain asks is a good one: WHAT EXACTLY IS HE GOING TO SAY TO THESE THUGS THAT HAS NOT ALREADY BEEN SAID? If he doesn't have anything new to say, then a trip to Iran, or a negotiation with Ahmadinejad is an exercise in redundancy and in honoring him. And if he has new stuff to say, what's it going to be? IT'S NOT GOING TO BE MORE STICKS. HE'S NOT GOING TO BE TOUGHER ON IRAN THAN BUSH AND CHENEY. IT'S GOING TO BE CARROTS. SO LET'S ASK OBAMA: ARE YOU GOING TO OFFER IRAN LEBANON? ARE YOU GOING TO OFFER IT SWAY OVER IRAQ? ARE YOU GOING TO OFFER IT DOMINATION OF THE GULF? OR ARE YOU GOING TO OFFER IT AMERICA SQUEEZING ISRAEL? So it IS about appeasement, and Israel IS a place in which you want to make...[interruption ]

Krauthammer, continuing his thought: "Because if there were to be an offer to Iran it would surely involve Israel's interest."
...
Krauthammer: "Obama took it as an attack on HIM. Obama has a problem. He says he will not speak with Hamas because it engages in terror. On the other hand he wants a direct diplomacy with Iran, which is the world's most prodigious supporter of state terror. AND IF YOU HAVE THAT CONTRADICTION, YOU'VE GOT TO EXPLAIN IT. Obama, at the beginning, he made a gaffe in answering that question. He knew he was stuck, he made it into a policy, and now it's a doctrine. AND HE'S GOT TO EXPLAIN IT -- AND HE CAN'T!" -- Charles Krauthammer.

338 Gumby  Thu, May 15, 2008 6:04:49pm

re: #3 Alouette

Hey Hussein, if the shoe fits...

If it DOESN'T fit, put it back in the box and stick it in the empty hole on the shelf that you took it from.

What an appeasing asshole.....

This is the first time in my adult life that I'm NOT proud to see such a whining, leftist, caliphate enabling, terrorist enabler running for the highest office in this land.

I'm sick, to the point of puking, of hearing his white-hating, race-baiting, Al Sharpton/Jackson wannabe 'wife' stirring up the bones of racism that the Dhimmocrap party is responsible for.

If I had any kids, I'm sure this type of excrement wouldn't be doing them any good.

339 lummox  Thu, May 15, 2008 6:14:29pm

An evil man flees while none pursueth.

340 LouMinatti  Thu, May 15, 2008 6:39:28pm

Bush needs to do more of this. It was a very clever way (and I am not saying that Bush thought of it) to throw the Democrats on the defensive. Now people are going back to see what Obama has actually said... and it turns out that what he said is precisely what Bush alluded to. We have the video. There’s Obama saying he’d be pleased to have a sit down Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the psychopath who PROMISES to murder 7.1 million people.

341 m1150  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:17:53pm

When you respond with indignation to what you perceive as an egregious wrong, it's a legitimate grievance.

When someone you disagree with does the same thing, it's whining.

342 Charles  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:44:16pm

re: #341 m1150

When you respond with indignation to what you perceive as an egregious wrong, it's a legitimate grievance.

When someone you disagree with does the same thing, it's whining.

Wow. That's deep.

343 saberry0530  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:52:06pm

re: #341 m1150

When you respond with indignation to what you perceive as an egregious wrong, it's a legitimate grievance.

When someone you disagree with does the same thing, it's whining.

Wow. That's deep.

Oh and Obama is a piece of work that, hopefully in the end, will go down to the worse defeat ever in any election. HEy a guy can dream, can't he?

344 DubyaT  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:57:32pm

Why would Obama (or anyone else) assume President Bush was talking about him? I think he protests too much.

345 nigella  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:01:38pm

I thought the Presidents remarks today were right on the mark. Obviously I was right as all the "defamed" dhimmis had to put in their "wronged" two cents worth. Methinks they do protest too much.

346 dak  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:11:25pm

RELAX!

Bush was really talking about Jack Layton, fo the Canadian NDP party. "Taliban" Jack has stated he would negotiate with the taliban.

But hey, if others feel targeted, maybe they should wonder why...

347 Miss Molly  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:50:52pm

Hamas and their friends like Obama because , well he is their kind of guy. Bush didn't use Barak's name or anyone elses name. Why is Barak so worried that Bush was pointing to him? What has he got to hide from the American people?

348 Biff  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:04:03pm

Obama's father abandoned him at age two. He has real unresolved issues. He feels a constant need to reach out to distant, powerful men and seek resolution. He takes generally directed criticism very personally. He has internalized these feelings and believes that his fairly privileged background is somehow similar to the American black experience, and even worse, the plight of the Palestinians. He is the product of a Kenyan alcoholic polygamous father and an American ex-pat hippie mom, raised first by his muslim step-father in Indonesia, then by his white grandparents as a prep school stoner in Hawaii, only to discover his blackness at radical Occidental College, and then in Chicago at the feet of his new father-figure Reverand Wright. He needs a therapist, not the Presidency.

349 RTLM  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:44:07pm

Biden: "Bullshit!"

No, Biden, bulls-eye. You all are a pathetic pack of dipshit lightweights and were outed immediately as such by your collective tantrum.
Bush called out the cowards and you answered.

(Pavlov's Dogs)

Truism: If you call an obese person 'lardass' they get angry and hurt. Same with calling an idiot an idiot.

350 ASU86PE  Thu, May 15, 2008 10:41:44pm

re: #69 song_and_dance_man

Sen. Borah was a smarmy liberal 1930's Republican. He favored income tax, the New Deal, and fathered an child with a married women of another Republican Senator.

351 Ripley45  Thu, May 15, 2008 11:32:58pm

what a brilliant moment in the GWB administration, this will resonate for the near decades, hopefully.

Not boiler plate, but iron willed, see the Syrian work. Will Binni (sp. check)take over?, what a wonderful ally.

Will Johnny Mac? If we had trouble in the south, it would be nice to know we have an ally in the north a good VP. Romney. where are the Olympics in 2012?

this thing could get out of hand become very very dangerous...Speaking of FDT. He's gotta have a cabinet post.

OT, but i get a bit disjointed : ) TNDT

What's Colin Powell up to? can he sew up the OJ situation?

352 Truesoldier  Fri, May 16, 2008 3:27:44am

First of all,

Obama has said that he would talk unconditionally with Iran who is the largest state sponsor of terrorism, so he once again is trying to rewrite history with his statement that, "George Bush knows that I have never supported engagement with terrorists"

Secondly, of course Obama thought this was about him. After his supposed denoucemnet of Rev. Wright, where all he really kept saying is I cant believe he attacked me, what else would you expect from him. I think Perno hit the nail on the head with, "I understand that when you are running for office sometimes you think the world revolves around you. That is not always true and it is not true in this case,” statement.

If Obama is going to get this worked up over a comment that he felt is directed towards him, what will he do if he is President and some country or even US citizen makes a direct comment about him?

353 erisldysnomia  Fri, May 16, 2008 6:07:59am

But Bush is comparing Obamatanic to Hitler's appeasers such as Neville "killer umbrella" Chamberlain.

And it's a pretty darn relevant comparison!

354 Biff Stroganoff  Fri, May 16, 2008 7:38:25am

Methinks the thin-skinned, terrorist-appeasing, leave me alone while I eat my waffle, savior for the vapid guilt-ridden liberal masses doth protesteth too much! When is the MSM (or the public at large going to get sick of Barry's whining & bellyaching every time somebody makes a comment that doesn't even metion him by name. Talk about wearing the shoe that fits!

Biff

355 joan  Fri, May 16, 2008 12:49:30pm

re: #349 RTLM

Biden: "Bullshit!"

No, Biden, bulls-eye. You all are a pathetic pack of dipshit lightweights and were outed immediately as such by your collective tantrum.
Bush called out the cowards and you answered.

(Pavlov's Dogs)

Truism: If you call an obese person 'lardass' they get angry and hurt. Same with calling an idiot an idiot.

! Yep.

waaaaaaa somebody call a waaaambulance


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