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Thu, May 15, 2008 at 1:42:38 pm PDT

God defend me from my friends; from my enemies I can defend myself.

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1 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:43:42pm

*twirrrrrrrrrllllllllllllllllllllll*

2 USA  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:44:56pm
3 Silhouette  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:46:40pm

Disagree.

May God deliver me from my friends, my enemies, and mostly from myself. I can defend myself against nothing without Him.

/different point of view

4 Kulhwch  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:47:02pm

So everyone's coming unglued today?

}:)     [So it was just a matter of who blinks first? Who knew?]

5 Russkilitlover  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:47:33pm

Ahhhh.....An open thread. Got so riled with all the previous threads, I need to calm the blood pressure down!

6 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:48:08pm
7 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:48:32pm

I need a nap. My wife doesn't care. Work doesn't care. Does anybody care?

8 HBob  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:49:21pm

8 - That's Numberwang!

9 loppyd  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:49:29pm

re: #7 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I need a nap. My wife doesn't care. Work doesn't care. Does anybody care?

I do.
Kind of.
LOL

10 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:49:34pm
11 DownRightMeanAmerican  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:50:37pm

I think Al Gore is in town today, seems to be a hot wind blowing!

12 redstateredneck  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:51:05pm

re: #11 DownRightMeanAmerican

I was expecting his fire spewing photo!

13 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:51:30pm

The MSM is largely ignoring this, but McCain laid out his vision of his 1st term in office.

Here it is, cut and paste from the email from his campaign.

My Friends,

We are all aware that next January, the political leadership of the United States will change significantly when a new president is sworn into our nation's highest elected office. It is important that the candidates who seek to lead our country after President Bush define their objectives and what they plan to achieve not with vague language but with clarity.

What I want to do is take a little time to describe what I hope to have achieved at the end of my first term as president. I cannot guarantee I will have achieved these things, but I am presumptuous enough to think I would be a good president.

By January 2013, at the end of my first term as president, America has welcomed home most of the servicemen and women who have sacrificed terribly so that America might be secure in her freedom. The Iraq War has been won and Iraq is a functioning democracy. The threat from a resurgent Taliban in Afghanistan has been greatly reduced but not eliminated and there has not been a major terrorist attack in the United States since September 11, 2001.

The United States has experienced several years of robust economic growth and Americans again have confidence in their economic future. Congress has lowered taxes and passed fundamental tax reform offering a choice in how taxes are filed. Americans, who through no fault of their own, lost jobs in the global economy they once believed were theirs for life, are assisted by reformed unemployment insurance and worker retraining programs.

Public education in the United States is much improved and test scores and graduation rates are rising everywhere in the country. Health care has become more accessible to more Americans than at any other time in history.

The United States is well on the way to independence from foreign sources of oil; progress that has not only begun to alleviate the environmental threat posed from climate change, but has greatly improved our security as well.

Scores of judges have been confirmed to the federal district and appellate courts, including the U.S. Supreme Court, who understand that they were not sent there to write our laws but to enforce them.

Voluntary national service has grown in popularity in part because of the educational benefits used as incentives, as well as frequent appeals from the bully pulpit of the White House, but mostly because the young Americans understand that true happiness is much greater than the pursuit of pleasure, and can only be found by serving causes greater than self-interest.

This is the progress I want us to achieve during my presidency. These are the changes I am running for president to make. I want to leave office knowing that America is safer, freer and wealthier than when I was elected.

There are serious issues at stake in this election, and serious differences, but it should remain an argument among friends; each of us struggling to hear our conscience, and heed its demands. Each of us, despite our differences, united in our great cause and respectful of the goodness in each other. That is how most Americans treat each other. And it is how they want the people they elect to office to treat each other.

We cannot again leave our problems for another unluckier generation of Americans to fix after they have become even harder to solve. I'm not interested in partisanship that serves no other purpose than to gain a temporary advantage over our opponents. We are all compatriots. We are fellow Americans. I intend to prove myself worthy of the office, of our country and of your respect. I won't judge myself by how many elections I've won. I won't spend one hour of my presidency worrying more about my re-election than keeping my promises to the American people.


Last para asking for money deleted.
Class assignment: discuss this.

14 The Other Les  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:51:32pm

The problem is that now we can be prosecuted for defending ourselves from our enemies too.

15 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:51:34pm

re: #10 taxfreekiller

Thanks killa!

16 alegrias  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:51:41pm

re: #11 DownRightMeanAmerican

I think Al Gore is in town today, seems to be a hot wind blowing!

* * *
Maybe Gore will endorse McCain, as a quid pro quo thing.
Gore was once a defense hawk, way back in the 1980s.

17 MrSilverDragon  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:52:02pm

re: #4 Kulhwch

So everyone's coming unglued today?

}:)     [So it was just a matter of who blinks first? Who knew?]

Unglued? I never had an adherent to begin with!

18 WrathofG-d  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:52:14pm
19 turn  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:52:34pm

And now for all you like-minded nanotechnology Lizards out there:

via instapundit

[Link: www.foresight.org...]

My teenage boys think I'm nuts when I tell them it's quite possible they will live forever, I'm quite serious really.

20 ayatollah ghilmeini  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:52:46pm

sure is a lot happening today.

Regarding Obama taking offense at Bush's comments re appeasement, he is the man who wants to meet the murdering scum of Syria and Iran without preconditions and the man who had to fire his top man on Middle East peace because Mr. Malley was meeting with Hamas ( a terrorist organization- Malley's lame excuse was it was part of his duties to other organizations he works for, as if that excuses it).

The problem is all of Obama's making and I do not trust any man who associates with the likes of Bill Ayers and Tony Rezko.

When you lie down with dogs you wake up with flees.

21 Taqiyyotomist  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:53:11pm

Regarding my post on the Wed. Afternoon Open Thread. Sorry about the formatting here, writing in notepad, as I cannot do this at the library in < 30min.

#188, #232, #234 Charles
re: #184 Taqiyyotomist

"Things are going to get bad. I know the book is fiction, yes. I can also see from the perspectives of (imho) song-and-dance-man and, somewhat, of Babbazee. And many others here. Posts by those two are eagerly looked-for when I read threads. I hope, Charles, that you never ban them...I see a trend, and the trend doesn't look good."

Excuse me, but what the hell is that supposed to mean?

--Wow. I certainly did not mean to offend. Everyone here sees a trend regarding Jihad and war, even, as someone wittily pointed out, the Pinball Wizard can see that.

The trend I see is not banning, but a certain, ah, hostility that seems...
(self-fulfilling prophesy?)
Ah nevermind. This is the best source of news I got, especially regarding Israel, Islamic nuttery, and moonbattery. I'll stick to lurking. My apologies, Charles, for presuming to know your mind, and further insinuations. Your site rocks, as does this crowd. I couldn't care less if I was ever banned, but I do like reading opinions from those who see things through the prism of Scriprture.

#195 jcm

--I stand corrected.

#206 littleO
"So, What do you think of the Callie character on CSI Miami?"

--I do not own a TV. It would long since have resulted in jailtime, as I would inevitably have thrown it out the 2nd-floor window long ago, and it would probably have then landed on a TV-addict, or some innocent person.

////


#245 BDVM

"Not to mention, by his own admission, heavily depressed & on meds."

--er, respectfully, please point out exactly where I said I was on meds. I will never be on meds, not even when Obammunism puts "Belief in the Veracity of the Bible" into that ever-expanding book of so-called Disorders and Syndromes. I pretty much don't trust anyone with a Psych degree, with many good reasons, and from experience. Buncha non-science hack pharma-whores steeped in progressivism, moral relativism, and a stew of other nonsense -isms.

#248 mama winger
"Yes, this is what I got from that post. Medicated, morose, and just trying to connect with someone here. Been there. Not pretty."

--did I type something, anything at all, regarding medications? Seeing things that aren't there? (I remember when that Hinrichs fella 'sploded in OKC. Lotsa people read the same articles I read and lotsa these same folks kept saying "What about the computer!? Did the see what was on the computer? Get the dude's computer!" When, no computer was ever mentioned at all! This kinda reminds me of that time. Just sayin. And maybe I'm guilty of that, seeing things that aren't there, now that I've "accused" Charles of "planning" a purge.)

Back to lurking for me. Prayers from the praying would be a good thing (thanks Kenneth). Better than meds. I need to stay away from Townhall threads, though. That is a sure way to become more depressed. Those threads are quite like Arkham Asylum, no moderation, no reason, pre-troll-bating (like the Anti-GAZE is in effect over there), rational folks arguing with (!) taqiyya practitioners. I'll be back in a few months, after I finish eating this foot of mine. (not tasty.)

22 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:53:40pm

re: #13 Kosh's Shadow

Note that McCain is giving a date of largely withdrawing from Iraq, but in the context of a victory, not a set date. The MSM that does cover it, say he set a date. But then their reading comprehension stinks.

23 redstateredneck  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:53:40pm

re: #13 Kosh's Shadow

There's more to the speech than that. Full text here.

24 jcm  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:53:45pm

re: #1 MandyManners

*twirrrrrrrrrllllllllllllllllllllll*

NO TWIRLING!
I just ate lunch...
*urp*

25 Psaturn  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:53:58pm

hmmm I missed the previous thread...did anything happen? Is this the reason why Charles posted this quote?

I have been busy at work lately (which is good!) so I have not been following closely...

26 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:54:30pm
27 Fat Jolly Penguin  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:54:50pm

re: #12 redstateredneck

I was expecting his fire spewing photo!

This one?

I like this one too.

28 loppyd  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:55:07pm

re: #20 ayatollah ghilmeini

The part I found to be so hilarious was that Obama automatically assumed Bush was talking about him.

29 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:55:44pm

re: #20 ayatollah ghilmeini

sure is a lot happening today.

The problem is all of Obama's making and I do not trust any man who associates with the likes of Bill Ayers and Tony Rezko.

When you lie down with dogs you wake up with flees.

Please stop insulting dogs by comparing them with Ayers and Rezko.
Dogs are very nice animals and don't want fleas; they just can't put on flea control themselves.
Ayers and Rezko have chosen the stuff that sticks to and exudes from them.

30 Shug  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:55:46pm

re: #1 MandyManners

*twirrrrrrrrrllllllllllllllllllllll*

squeeeal

31 Psaturn  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:55:49pm

re: #21 Taqiyyotomist


Will be praying for ya!

(Sorry I got a Psychology degree...among many other others...I thought it was an easy degree...and it was!)

33 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:56:13pm

re: #19 turn


My teenage boys think I'm nuts when I tell them it's quite possible they will live forever, I'm quite serious really.

They'll certainly live a lot longer than we will. In a couple generations lifespans will be enormous.

34 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:56:18pm

HOLYHEAD, Wales - A man who dressed up as Darth Vader, wearing a garbage bag for a cape, and assaulted the founders of a group calling itself the Jedi church was given a suspended sentence Tuesday.

Arwel Wynne Hughes, 27, attacked Jedi church founder Barney Jones — aka Master Jonba Hehol — with a metal crutch, hitting him on the head, prosecutors told Holyhead Magistrates' Court.

SNIP

35 galloping granny  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:56:23pm

re: #21 Taqiyyotomist

Regarding my post on the Wed. Afternoon Open Thread. Sorry about the formatting here, writing in notepad, as I cannot do this at the library in < 30min.

Uhhh - this is about yesterday's thread? We don't remember that. If it is really vital, you might consider adding links where appropriate.

36 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:57:11pm

re: #28 loppyd

The part I found to be so hilarious was that Obama automatically assumed Bush was talking about him.

If the Chamberlain suit fits....

37 redstateredneck  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:57:11pm

re: #27 Fat Jolly Penguin

This one?

I like this one too.


I hadn't seen the second one. First is best, though.

38 Psaturn  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:57:20pm

re: #21 Taqiyyotomist


By the way, I think your comments were misunderstood too...you were thinking of Islam and the dangers it poses to the West...while other people were thinking with situation much closer...

39 alegrias  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:58:00pm

re: #28 loppyd

The part I found to be so hilarious was that Obama automatically assumed Bush was talking about him.

* * *
Obama wanted to pick this fight with Pres. Bush for higher ratings with his BDS crowd. Taking on the President elevates Obama to Pres. Bush's level, to Obama's delusional supporters who pretend Pres. Bush is ON THE BALLOT.

Running against Pres. Bush is all they got, now that they pretend Hillary is history!

40 Silhouette  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:58:01pm

re: #28 loppyd

The part I found to be so hilarious was that Obama automatically assumed Bush was talking about him.

You're so vain, I'll bet you think this speech is about you.

Don't you?

Don't you?

41 loppyd  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:58:09pm

re: #36 Kosh's Shadow

If the Chamberlain suit fits....

It is always when someone calls them out that the left goes the craziest.

I happen to love it. A LOT.

42 Charles  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:58:43pm

The quotes are randomly selected from a large quotes file by a script, by the way.

43 P. Aaron  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:59:03pm

I have never seen a more pathetic selection of presidential contenders. Those 3 gum-flappin' pandering fools all over-promise and will deliver only hell unto us.

They all offer us only more laws & policies to restrict our liberties while stifling our creativity. All 3 are from the Senate.

All 3 operate from the premise that the American way of life is in decline, that it won't get any better, that we must conserve rather than enhance productive measures. All three believe that we are to be restricted rather than trusted with liberties...those few that remain.

Even Bob Dole's lookin' good by comparison.

Once all the "Global(oney) Warming" laws are enacted, we'll be battling this bizarre maze of regulators well after the Globaloney has been exposed as a fraud. The government will never forsake laws that involve spending once they're passed.

None of the 3 contenders mention anything related to the awesome Constitution. They talk much about some other parliamentary form of governance, which is not born of leadership, but of compromise, consultation and the dilution of ideas...at the expense of the American republic.

This is the worst. This; our National Nightmare is just beginning.

Thanks for indulging me this rather long post.

44 Psaturn  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:59:07pm

re: #7 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I need a nap. My wife doesn't care. Work doesn't care. Does anybody care?

I care!

45 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:59:41pm

re: #28 loppyd

In Jr High, I had a teacher who (upon hearing talking going on) would say, "I don't know who's talking right now, but they didn't have no home trainin'."

Invariably, Sheila (who was talking) would jump up and say, "I was not talking, and don't talk about my momma!"

Sheila was always good for a laugh.

46 unreconstructed rebel  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:59:41pm

re: #36 Kosh's Shadow

First, we had the shoe thread (with an odd glove thrown in)

Now, it's the clothes thread?

*I can't keep this shit straight*

47 offendi  Thu, May 15, 2008 1:59:47pm

Can someone wake up John "The Sleeper" McCain? It's not about global warming Johnny, it's about COMPETANCY.

Does John the Maverick have any advisors in their 30's or 40's, who, like Micky in "Rocky" will advise him to switch up his game plan in order to win?

Barry the Messiah is TAKEABLE. He will go down. He is a brittle, egotistical candidate who has really thin skin. He is not as shrewd as he thinks his verbal skills are.

You have to make him "bleed", not cuddle him John.

Decide if you want to be remembered as another Republican disappointment or not.

48 Psaturn  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:00:37pm

re: #42 Charles

The quotes are randomly selected from a large quotes file, by the way.


Oh!

Thanks for the clarification!

LOL....

49 yma o hyd  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:00:43pm

re: #34 MandyManners

Omigawd - thats all I needed!
Dunno what it is, but people today were wild on the MB I co-moderate, like herding cats ...

Something in the air? Did it cross the Atlantic?

50 paxnhymn  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:00:55pm

re: #33 Killgore Trout

They'll certainly live a lot longer than we will. In a couple generations lifespans will be enormous.

ohh that's great. So my great grandkids can look forward to 200 years in a hajib and their asses in the air five times a day...


no thanks.

51 bosforus  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:01:08pm

re: #7 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I need a nap. My wife doesn't care. Work doesn't care. Does anybody care?

Care a lot, we care a lot!

52 alegrias  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:01:24pm

re: #29 Kosh's Shadow

Please stop insulting dogs by comparing them with Ayers and Rezko.
Dogs are very nice animals and don't want fleas; they just can't put on flea control themselves.
Ayers and Rezko have chosen the stuff that sticks to and exudes from them.

* * *
Plus dogs are allies of infidels, not the caliphate where they are shunned & mistreated.

53 turn  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:01:25pm

re: #33 Killgore Trout

They'll certainly live a lot longer than we will. In a couple generations lifespans will be enormous.


I know this isn't going to go over well with many here at LGF (I think you are one of the exceptions KT) but breakthroughs in nanotechnology may someday very well make it possible to upload your very being onto a piece of silicon where you can live out an entire lifetime of experiences in milliseconds. Some mind-boggling possibilities in AI.

54 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:01:32pm

TOKYO (Reuters) - Ladies, take your battle for the environment a little closer to your heart with a solar-powered bra that can generate enough electric energy to charge a mobile phone or an iPod.

Lingerie maker Triumph International Japan Ltd unveiled its environmentally friendly, and green colored, "Solar Power Bra" on Wednesday in Tokyo which features a solar panel worn around the stomach.

The panel requires light to generate electricity and the concept bra will not be in stores anytime soon, said Triumph spokeswoman Yoshiko Masuda, as "people usually can not go outside without wearing clothes over it."

But it does send the message of how lingerie could possibly save the planet, Masuda said, adding that the bra should not be washed or sunned on a rainy day to avoid damaging it.

SNIP

55 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:02:09pm

re: #19 turn

I am convinced that my son will live to 120. His son...holy crap!

Social Security sure is gonna help us all!

56 Psaturn  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:02:13pm

re: #43 P. Aaron


I agree...McCain's age and possible health problem can be an issue for general voters...

Time Magazine and NT Times will make sure of that...

57 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:02:32pm

re: #54 MandyManners

Solar bra photo.

58 USA  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:02:41pm

re: #54 MandyManners

Finally, an uplifting story today.

59 Psaturn  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:02:44pm

re: #51 bosforus


You are not Babba's sock, are you?

/

60 experiencedtraveller  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:02:51pm

re: #43 P. Aaron

All 3 operate from the premise that the American way of life is in decline, that it won't get any better, that we must conserve rather than enhance productive measures. All three believe that we are to be restricted rather than trusted with liberties...those few that remain.


Get a grip.

Read Number 13 above.

61 bosforus  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:03:11pm

re: #59 Psaturn

You are not Babba's sock, are you?

/

Is Babba in to Care Bears too?

62 Psaturn  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:03:33pm

re: #54 MandyManners


What does SNIP means here?

I know it usually means cutting with scissors...

63 jcm  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:03:34pm

re: #50 paxnhymn

ohh that's great. So my great grandkids can look forward to 200 years in a hajib and their asses in the air five times a day...


no thanks.

Proverbs 22:6 (Amplified Bible)
Train up a child in the way he should go [and in keeping with his individual gift or bent], and when he is old he will not depart from it.

64 yochanan  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:03:37pm

throw a rock into a pack of dogs THE ONE YOU HIT WILL YELPP THE LOUDIST

ENOUGH SAID ABOUT OBAMA

65 Occasional Reader  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:03:43pm

re: #58 USA

Finally, an uplifting story today.

On the contrary, I think it's just cleaving us apart.

66 Psaturn  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:03:57pm

re: #61 bosforus


Maybe...

67 redstateredneck  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:04:01pm

re: #54 MandyManners

Lingerie maker Triumph International Japan Ltd unveiled its environmentally friendly, and green colored, "Solar Power Bra" on Wednesday in Tokyo which features a solar panel worn around the stomach.


But can it talk?

68 Psaturn  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:04:13pm

re: #65 Occasional Reader


HA HA HA!

69 galloping granny  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:04:22pm

Brit Hume is ripping Obama a new one on Fox right now.

70 gop_patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:04:25pm

I need a photo for the open thread...

How about this?

Just because it made me laugh :)

71 Silhouette  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:04:31pm

re: #54 MandyManners

Eh, most gals wouldn't have a bra big enough to power a phone.

/runs and ducks

72 alegrias  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:04:31pm

re: #43 P. Aaron

* * *
Well, Bob Dole was a Senator also, but he didn't have much fight left in him, much less to take on the groovy Bill/Al Don't Stop generation.

73 yma o hyd  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:04:36pm

re: #54 MandyManners

The bra should not be washed? Wtf?
On the otehr hand - yeah well, not washing saves water and doesn't pollute the environment.

Aww - why don't we all move back into caves or something ...

74 loppyd  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:04:40pm

re: #67 redstateredneck

But can it talk?

LOL

I saw that on the news this morning and wondered the same thing to myself.

75 Psaturn  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:05:17pm

re: #57 MandyManners

Solar bra photo.


It is not attractive at all...

76 jcm  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:05:20pm

re: #54 MandyManners

TOKYO (Reuters) - Ladies, take your battle for the environment a little closer to your heart with a solar-powered bra that can generate enough electric energy to charge a mobile phone or an iPod.

Lingerie maker Triumph International Japan Ltd unveiled its environmentally friendly, and green colored, "Solar Power Bra" on Wednesday in Tokyo which features a solar panel worn around the stomach.

The panel requires light to generate electricity and the concept bra will not be in stores anytime soon, said Triumph spokeswoman Yoshiko Masuda, as "people usually can not go outside without wearing clothes over it."

But it does send the message of how lingerie could possibly save the planet, Masuda said, adding that the bra should not be washed or sunned on a rainy day to avoid damaging it.

SNIP

Excuse me ma'am, my iPod battery is low, may I plug in?

77 yma o hyd  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:05:35pm

re: #57 MandyManners

Madonna would have no problem wearing that without any other clothes on top ...

78 jamgarr  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:05:51pm

But can it talk?

Yes. It says "Hey, my eyes are up here."

79 USA  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:05:52pm

re: #65 Occasional Reader

On the contrary, I think it's just cleaving us apart.

If these are weighty issues, I will support them.

80 P. Aaron  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:06:23pm

re: #60 experiencedtraveller

Get a grip.

Read Number 13 above.

All you need to realize is McCain's acquiesence to the Global Warming theory and his support of legislative action to battle that ghost is all you need to understand that he's bought into a computer model's results to govern America.

Get a grip yourself.

81 joncelli  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:06:40pm

re: #19 turn

I keep telling my wife that I don't need to go on a diet because eventually I'll just download my consciousness into a robot but she just doesn't buy it...

82 Silhouette  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:06:46pm

Why not a solar-collecting shirt, or something else worn outside?

83 jcm  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:06:56pm
84 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:07:05pm

re: #62 Psaturn

What does SNIP means here?

I know it usually means cutting with scissors...

There's more. But not linked.

85 bosforus  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:07:37pm

re: #66 Psaturn

Maybe...

Interesting

86 yma o hyd  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:07:50pm

re: #82 Silhouette

Cause that firm makes bras, not shirts :-)

87 unreconstructed rebel  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:08:20pm

nytol

88 Psaturn  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:08:38pm

What do you guys think of this? This poor black woman lost her job because she dared say that gay rights was not a civil rights issue...

[Link: www.christianpost.com...]

I think this should be under freedom of speech issue...

One should lose a job over making comments over that...

89 turn  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:08:45pm

re: #55 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am convinced that my son will live to 120. His son...holy crap!

Social Security sure is gonna help us all!

SS? hahaha what SS ...

And BTW its proven a caloric restricted diet prolongs your lifespan ..

/sorry couldn't resist that FBV

90 alegrias  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:08:46pm

re: #47 offendi

Can someone wake up John "The Sleeper" McCain? It's not about global warming Johnny, it's about COMPETANCY.

Does John the Maverick have any advisors in their 30's or 40's, who, like Micky in "Rocky" will advise him to switch up his game plan in order to win?

Barry the Messiah is TAKEABLE. He will go down. He is a brittle, egotistical candidate who has really thin skin. He is not as shrewd as he thinks his verbal skills are.

You have to make him "bleed", not cuddle him John.

Decide if you want to be remembered as another Republican disappointment or not.

* * *
Plenty of voters ONLY care about their single issue, ECOGREEN-NESS, before national security.

We and McCain need these Eco-voters, they can hug the trees while McCain the Warmonger fights the conventional warfare these green-centric people pretend isn't happening.

91 P. Aaron  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:09:37pm

re: #72 alegrias

* * *
Well, Bob Dole was a Senator also, but he didn't have much fight left in him, much less to take on the groovy Bill/Al Don't Stop generation.


Yeah, Bob was done tucker'd out, and he was lousy on the campaign trail. But Dole was only 1/23 the prick McCain is to his own political party.

92 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:09:42pm

re: #53 turn


I know this isn't going to go over well with many here at LGF (I think you are one of the exceptions KT) but breakthroughs in nanotechnology may someday very well make it possible to upload your very being onto a piece of silicon where you can live out an entire lifetime of experiences in milliseconds. Some mind-boggling possibilities in AI.


Also within the next few generations we're going to genetically transform ourselves, I'm not sure if we'll even recognize ourselves in a few hundred years.

93 Psaturn  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:09:53pm

re: #88 Psaturn


I meant No ONE should lose a job over that...

PIMF...LOL

94 offendi  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:10:19pm

re: #54 MandyManners

TOKYO (Reuters) - Ladies, take your battle for the environment a little closer to your heart with a solar-powered bra that can generate enough electric energy to charge a mobile phone or an iPod.

Lingerie maker Triumph International Japan Ltd unveiled its environmentally friendly, and green colored, "Solar Power Bra" on Wednesday in Tokyo which features a solar panel worn around the stomach.

The panel requires light to generate electricity and the concept bra will not be in stores anytime soon, said Triumph spokeswoman Yoshiko Masuda, as "people usually can not go outside without wearing clothes over it."

But it does send the message of how lingerie could possibly save the planet, Masuda said, adding that the bra should not be washed or sunned on a rainy day to avoid damaging it.

SNIP

Umm... Victoria's Secret Catalogue material ?

95 turn  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:10:37pm

re: #78 jamgarr

But can it talk?

Yes. It says "Hey, my eyes are up here."


LOL!

96 alegrias  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:10:44pm

re: #56 Psaturn

I agree...McCain's age and possible health problem can be an issue for general voters...

Time Magazine and NT Times will make sure of that...

* * *
We're all gonna die, get over it. Better to go down with a fighting McCain president, and someone qualified to take over, than to surrender on November 4, 2008.

97 Psaturn  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:10:55pm

re: #63 jcm


I loved the Amplified Bible...it amplifies the meaning of the text...

98 WrathofG-d  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:11:04pm

re: #93 Psaturn

no Freedom of Speech issue. no government actor.

But it is bunk that she would lose her job over that. The liberalism of the liberals I guess.

99 jcm  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:11:23pm

re: #88 Psaturn

What do you guys think of this? This poor black woman lost her job because she dared say that gay rights was not a civil rights issue...

[Link: www.christianpost.com...]

I think this should be under freedom of speech issue...

One should lose a job over making comments over that...

Clearly hate speech. I think an auto-de-fe is order.
/

Reconstruct the column so the "target" is Christians, Jews, Conservatives, gun owners and same people in the lynch mob would be nodding their empty little heads sagely.

100 Psaturn  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:11:46pm

re: #96 alegrias

* * *
We're all gonna die, get over it. Better to go down with a fighting McCain president, and someone qualified to take over, than to surrender on November 4, 2008.


Well yeah I agree...

And McCain's mom is still alive! For Heaven's sake!

101 DownRightMeanAmerican  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:11:48pm

re: #75 Psaturn

From the link:

The bra is also equipped with pads designed to hold beverages so that the usage of cans and plastic bottles can be reduced, the company said.

I see a boating application there!

I am going "green"!

It brings a whole new meaning to, hey sweet heart would you mind bringing me a beer but don’t shake it to much and stand still while I am drinking, would you.

102 bulwrk  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:12:06pm

re: #33 Killgore Trout

really I tend to think that a generation raised on processed junk foods sitting in front of computer screens might actually see shorter life spans.

103 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:12:17pm

re: #65 Occasional Reader

On the contrary, I think it's just cleaving us apart.

Stop milking this thread.

104 USA  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:12:37pm

Maybe there is some hope for McCain

My question is, "What do you want to talk about?"

105 offendi  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:12:42pm

re: #90 alegrias


It's all good but you can't miss the Forrest for the trees. The Maverick is running a campaign not to offend, rather than to win.

106 jcm  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:13:10pm

re: #97 Psaturn

I loved the Amplified Bible...it amplifies the meaning of the text...

When I study, I use an Amplified, an Interlinear Bible, and Greek and Hebrew dictionaries.

107 turn  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:13:31pm

re: #92 Killgore Trout

Also within the next few generations we're going to genetically transform ourselves, I'm not sure if we'll even recognize ourselves in a few hundred years.

Genetically and technologically.

Borg - seriously.

108 opnion  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:13:58pm

re: #80 P. Aaron

All you need to realize is McCain's acquiesence to the Global Warming theory and his support of legislative action to battle that ghost is all you need to understand that he's bought into a computer model's results to govern America.

Get a grip yourself.


I was very disappointed in McCain, mouthing that junk science.
If this is all man made due to our carbon emissions, how did the planet ever warm before man?
McCain disappoints me a lot

109 bosforus  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:14:07pm

re: #104 USA

Maybe there is some hope for McCain

My question is, "What do you want to talk about?"

I hope this isn't a fleeting question. I hope he continues to push it until Obama responds.

110 P. Aaron  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:14:19pm

re: #105 offendi

It's all good but you can't miss the Forest for the trees. The Maverick is running a campaign not to offend, rather than to win.

We all know where nice guys finish: Dead Last.

111 Russkilitlover  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:14:30pm

re: #28 loppyd

The part I found to be so hilarious was that Obama automatically assumed Bush was talking about him.

And none of his advisors have yet leaned towards him and whispered: "Uh, you are really looking like an idiot right now."

112 loppyd  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:15:17pm

re: #111 Russkilitlover

And none of his advisors have yet leaned towards him and whispered: "Uh, you are really looking like an idiot right now."

His indignation will be fatal, IMHO.

113 WayDownSouthInBama  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:15:19pm

I find the Democrats outrage over Bush's "appeasement" remark telling. Those outraged either support appeasement,do not see terrorists as the enemy,or both. In any event,they are the last people we need in office to oversee the affairs of our nation. This is an inexcusable attitude to have by anyone in a post 9/11 world. As I said in the thread below,I hear the distinct barking of the MANY guilty dogs.

114 Fat Jolly Penguin  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:15:57pm

re: #111 Russkilitlover

And none of his advisors have yet leaned towards him and whispered: "Uh, you are really looking like an idiot right now."

If they did he'd throw a tantwum and fire them all for being mean to him.

/DO NOT question the Messiah. EVAH.

115 paxnhymn  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:16:03pm

re: #63 jcm

Proverbs 22:6 (Amplified Bible)
Train up a child in the way he should go [and in keeping with his individual gift or bent], and when he is old he will not depart from it.

Amen...but ya never know how a person will act if they're facing a beheading....martyrdom is not for the squeemish. As I see things progress i can't help but be a little negative (the Lortab I'm taking for this cracked molar today ain't helpin' either) as I am sure that my progeny may live to once again see the worldwide persecution of Christians and Jews. I really never thought I would be living Revelation!

116 loppyd  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:16:42pm

re: #114 Fat Jolly Penguin

If they did he'd throw a tantwum and fire them all for being mean to him.

/DO NOT question the Messiah. EVAH.

I'm surprised they haven't found some way to cry racism....

117 P. Aaron  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:16:57pm

re: #108 opnion

I was very disappointed in McCain, mouthing that junk science.
If this is all man made due to our carbon emissions, how did the planet ever warm before man?
McCain disappoints me a lot


We are humans, we pursue that which is in our best interests. We pursure that which will sustain life and enhance joy.

Yet all 3 contenders operate from a premise of original sin...not even in the Christian sense...but living in sin for being an American and enjoying and trying to better an American way of life.

118 alegrias  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:17:18pm

re: #80 P. Aaron

All you need to realize is McCain's acquiesence to the Global Warming theory and his support of legislative action to battle that ghost is all you need to understand that he's bought into a computer model's results to govern America.

Get a grip yourself.

* * *
Giving lipservice and assuaging Americans that he is not tone deaf to people's concerns about the environment is smart.

But really people, McCain's top issue is winning the war. All else is secondary and it would be nice for us to agree on Job Number One.

119 opnion  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:18:42pm

re: #110 P. Aaron

We all know where nice guys finish: Dead Last.

He is not a nice guy, really. He would savage a Republican in a heart beat.
He thinks going easy on Democrats mkes him look above the fray and statesman like.

120 bosforus  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:18:44pm

Is it just me or is McCain making himself a little more visible the last few days?

121 alegrias  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:19:15pm

re: #91 P. Aaron

Yeah, Bob was done tucker'd out, and he was lousy on the campaign trail. But Dole was only 1/23 the prick McCain is to his own political party.

* * *
All I want is our next president to WANT to WIN the WAR.

122 Russkilitlover  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:19:36pm

re: #57 MandyManners

Solar bra photo.

The real model is skinnier than the mannequins. Now that's creepy.

123 opnion  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:19:36pm

re: #117 P. Aaron

We are humans, we pursue that which is in our best interests. We pursure that which will sustain life and enhance joy.

Yet all 3 contenders operate from a premise of original sin...not even in the Christian sense...but living in sin for being an American and enjoying and trying to better an American way of life.


Well said

124 loppyd  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:19:39pm

re: #118 alegrias

But really people, McCain's top issue is winning the war. All else is secondary and it would be nice for us to agree on Job Number One.

On this I couldn't agree with you more.

And he will always treat our troops with the honor and dignity that they deserve.

125 Fat Jolly Penguin  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:19:50pm

re: #116 loppyd

I'm surprised they haven't found some way to cry racism....

Give it time.

/ahem

/ahem²

126 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:20:07pm
127 alegrias  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:20:32pm

re: #108 opnion

I was very disappointed in McCain, mouthing that junk science.
If this is all man made due to our carbon emissions, how did the planet ever warm before man?
McCain disappoints me a lot

* * *
Do you prefer Obama as your president then, negotiating with bad guys & giving up your country, while you worry about carbon issues?

128 loppyd  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:20:37pm

re: #125 Fat Jolly Penguin

Give it time.

/ahem

/ahem²

LOL

I meant about Bush's comments!

129 alegrias  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:21:36pm

re: #100 Psaturn

Well yeah I agree...

And McCain's mom is still alive! For Heaven's sake!

* * *
Mother McCain is 96, and so is her twin sister. They are pistol packing mammas, defense hawks, tough ladies.

Break hips and keep on ticking.

130 P. Aaron  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:21:40pm

re: #113 WayDownSouthInBama

I find the Democrats outrage over Bush's "appeasement" remark telling. Those outraged either support appeasement,do not see terrorists as the enemy,or both. In any event,they are the last people we need in office to oversee the affairs of our nation. This is an inexcusable attitude to have by anyone in a post 9/11 world. As I said in the thread below,I hear the distinct barking of the MANY guilty dogs.

What's wrong with America kickin' ass? What's wrong with America rockin' on with its bad self while the rest of the world constricts itself in a mass of negativity? America is and can continue to be exceptional as long as we aren't regulated to death.

And this McCain ad: "...in the year 2013...". What kind of laws is he going to sign passed by what congress: a Democrat one?

131 opnion  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:21:44pm

re: #124 loppyd

On this I couldn't agree with you more.

And he will always treat our troops with the honor and dignity that they deserve.


Can't argue with that. He is a patriot.

132 turn  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:21:54pm

re: #118 alegrias

* * *
Giving lipservice and assuaging Americans that he is not tone deaf to people's concerns about the environment is smart.

But really people, McCain's top issue is winning the war. All else is secondary and it would be nice for us to agree on Job Number One.

I agree, and would like to add that I sense much of what McCain is up to with the climate change issue is simple pandering for crossover votes, problem is he will likely loose more votes from the right in the process.

133 galloping granny  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:22:37pm

re: #111 Russkilitlover

And none of his advisors have yet leaned towards him and whispered: "Uh, you are really looking like an idiot right now."

Susan Rice was just on Fox talking about the ObamaDrama as Fox is calling this latest fiasco. She almost seems to be the driving force behind making it an issue.

And BTW, she was directly asked THREE times if Obama would sit down with Amadinnerjacket and she specifically replied three times that he would sit down with the correct people at the correct time. Flatly refused to give a yes or no answer. VERY disturbing.

134 opnion  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:23:07pm

re: #127 alegrias

* * *
Do you prefer Obama as your president then, negotiating with bad guys & giving up your country, while you worry about carbon issues?

No I don't. I will go to the polls & vote for McCain

135 alegrias  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:23:15pm

re: #105 offendi

It's all good but you can't miss the Forrest for the trees. The Maverick is running a campaign not to offend, rather than to win.

* * *
There's plenty of good inter-democrat offending going on!

And McCain has pointed out Wright & Hamas connections are unsavory, so he hasn't exactly been Mr. Conviviality.

136 loppyd  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:25:35pm

re: #133 galloping granny

That is very disturbing.

The 527 PACS are salivating to start running their ads....

137 Bosch Fawstin  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:26:34pm
138 paxnhymn  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:27:12pm

re: #134 opnion

No I don't. I will go to the polls & vote for McCain

I'll be the one with the clothespin on my nose. Wave at me before you go in the booth!

139 P. Aaron  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:27:17pm

re: #127 alegrias

* * *
Do you prefer Obama as your president then, negotiating with bad guys & giving up your country, while you worry about carbon issues?

My concern, and McCain is the stinky best of a very bad (...the words I want to use)lot...is McCain's granting...accepting the premise of Global Warming means that improving the American way of life might not be in the cards on his watch...EITHER. He's playing into the envirowhack's hands that: "it's all America's fault".

I am fine that he wants to win the war...but with what congress. By tossing Republicans & consrevatives (especially) over the side, how's he gonna get anything done...by reaching out?

If that is so. To whom is he going to reach out? And, at what expense.

We are screwed!

140 loppyd  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:28:40pm

BBIAB

141 alegrias  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:28:56pm

re: #119 opnion

He is not a nice guy, really. He would savage a Republican in a heart beat.
He thinks going easy on Democrats mkes him look above the fray and statesman like.

* * *
Yes, he needs to attract voters turned off by Obama & Hillary.

142 P. Aaron  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:31:05pm

re: #118 alegrias

* * *
Giving lipservice and assuaging Americans that he is not tone deaf to people's concerns about the environment is smart.

But really people, McCain's top issue is winning the war. All else is secondary and it would be nice for us to agree on Job Number One.


Where does "global warming" rate on the list of concerns of the American people? It doesn't.

Yeah, I want America to win the war too...very badly. But McCain's gonna have Robert Byrd's senate and Nanci's congress.

Let him have fun "reaching out" to that.

143 experiencedtraveller  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:31:30pm

re: #80 P. Aaron

So your rant at 43 comparing John McCain to Hillary/Obama boils down to McCain's position on the environment?

Do you know who is leading the world in greenhouse gas reduction investment and technology? And where some of this work is done?

144 alegrias  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:31:45pm

re: #132 turn

I agree, and would like to add that I sense much of what McCain is up to with the climate change issue is simple pandering for crossover votes, problem is he will likely loose more votes from the right in the process.

* * *
McCain as a conservative wants to conserve America's natural wonders & preserve our pre-eminence as a clean water, clean air country, more than most.

Conservatives and others should agree this is a conservative value and if showing concern attract single issue ECO voters, well that's good too.

But to WIN THE WAR first, we need voters of all stripes to vote for McCain..

145 wolfie  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:32:47pm

re: #141 alegrias

* * *
Yes, he needs to attract voters turned off by Obama & Hillary.

He mainly needs to attract voters turned off by Obama.... blue collar, Reagan Democrats. He needs the Catholic vote.
Most of the globull warming freaks are going to vote for the Democrats anyway.
A little pandering is okay, but he's going overboard. I think he actually believes this crap.

146 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:33:12pm
147 alegrias  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:33:27pm

re: #134 opnion

No I don't. I will go to the polls & vote for McCain

* * *
Thank you. I'm holding my nose too. We can work everything else out, after job number one.

148 nyc redneck  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:33:47pm

re: #11 DownRightMeanAmerican

I think Al Gore is in town today, seems to be a hot wind blowing!

maybe he was in the sewer system this morning. we had a man hole cover blow out front on the street. there was an explosion. i was really startled when i heard it. and when i went outside, the con ed guys were out there looking around at each other, so surprised. it was a big square man hole cover and it was wedged in the hole cattywampus w/ one edge pointing straight up. that's how it landed.
hearing the explosion made me think of the israelis and what they are going thru on a daily basis. how can they be so patient.

149 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:35:05pm
150 experiencedtraveller  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:35:44pm
So, GE executives and its board of directors are as dumb as Al Gore.

Fear Not, stupid is stupid does.

I wasn't aware you are a process engineer...

151 alegrias  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:36:03pm

re: #139 P. Aaron

My concern, and McCain is the stinky best of a very bad (...the words I want to use)lot...is McCain's granting...accepting the premise of Global Warming means that improving the American way of life might not be in the cards on his watch...EITHER. He's playing into the envirowhack's hands that: "it's all America's fault".

I am fine that he wants to win the war...but with what congress. By tossing Republicans & consrevatives (especially) over the side, how's he gonna get anything done...by reaching out?

If that is so. To whom is he going to reach out? And, at what expense.

We are screwed!

* * *
McCain wants every American to have a better standard of living, NATURALLY, but winning the war is part of establishing who's top dog in this world. We can't be kicked around by medievalists!

152 wolfie  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:36:17pm

I'm voting for McCain. Period.
No choice.

I sat out my first election because I didn't like either candidate.
Jimmy Carter won.
I won't make that mistake ever again.

Anyone who sits this one out is voting for Obama.

153 alegrias  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:37:10pm

re: #152 wolfie

I'm voting for McCain. Period.
No choice.

I sat out my first election because I didn't like either candidate.
Jimmy Carter won.
I won't make that mistake ever again.

Anyone who sits this one out is voting for Obama.

* * *
Viva Wolfie-witz!

154 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:38:48pm
155 experiencedtraveller  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:41:45pm

#154

Then you are surely conscious of the benefits of recapturing carbon.

156 Russkilitlover  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:43:46pm

re: #133 galloping granny

Susan Rice was just on Fox talking about the ObamaDrama as Fox is calling this latest fiasco. She almost seems to be the driving force behind making it an issue.

And BTW, she was directly asked THREE times if Obama would sit down with Amadinnerjacket and she specifically replied three times that he would sit down with the correct people at the correct time. Flatly refused to give a yes or no answer. VERY disturbing.

Hopefully FOX keeps her talking. The more this bunch talks off-prompter, the more illuminating.

Now if McCain would just start acting like he really wants the Presidencey.......

157 BBev  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:44:00pm

re: #152 wolfie

I'm voting for McCain. Period.
No choice.

I sat out my first election because I didn't like either candidate.
Jimmy Carter won.
I won't make that mistake ever again.

Anyone who sits this one out is voting for Obama.

The first election I vote in was for Ronald Reagan and was proud to do it, I will vote for McCain but he is no Ronald Reagan not even is he in the same ball park.

158 loppyd  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:45:04pm

re: #157 BBev

The first election I vote in was for Ronald Reagan and was proud to do it, I will vote for McCain but he is no Ronald Reagan not even is he in the same ball park.

I was only nine, but I did my part by helping my dad stuff mailers and ride with him all over creation to deliver them....

159 rawmuse  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:45:29pm

It is so danged hot today in SF. I went for a walk and the dog fell out, flat on his side, panting at molto allegro. That has never happened before, in my recollection. I am going to kick back with a cool one myself.

160 Russkilitlover  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:45:51pm

re: #127 alegrias

* * *
Do you prefer Obama as your president then, negotiating with bad guys & giving up your country, while you worry about carbon issues?

I think the point is that McCain is droning on about Global Warming and this is just not a hot button voter issue. He needs to focus on setting himself apart from BHO/Hillary on more relevant issues.

161 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:46:12pm
162 Silhouette  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:46:39pm

re: #156 Russkilitlover

The more this bunch talks off-prompter, the more illuminating.

Lynda Carter, aka Wonder Woman, aka moonbat, said that she wished she really had a magic lasso because she would put it around Bush and make him tell the truth (part of the Bush lied, people died meme).

The part of me that still has childish fantasy would love it if Obama, Hillary, and yes McCain were under a spell and could only tell the truth from here on out.

(And since I'm dreaming, I want a pony)

163 Salem  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:48:05pm

re: #124 loppyd

On this I couldn't agree with you more.

And he will always treat our troops with the honor and dignity that they deserve.

I put nothing past the man. Nothing.

164 wolfie  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:49:39pm

re: #157 BBev

The first election I vote in was for Ronald Reagan and was proud to do it, I will vote for McCain but he is no Ronald Reagan not even is he in the same ball park.

You're so lucky you got to cast your first vote for him!
Well, I certainly voted for him in 1980, too.
I wish we had someone in his ball park.......or at least a little nearer.

165 BBev  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:52:14pm

re: #158 loppyd

I was only nine, but I did my part by helping my dad stuff mailers and ride with him all over creation to deliver them....

When I was nine I was campaigning for Fat Boy et-el. then I grew up. My dad was a leader in the Massachusetts Democrat committee.

166 Russkilitlover  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:52:31pm

re: #162 Silhouette


The part of me that still has childish fantasy would love it if Obama, Hillary, and yes McCain were under a spell and could only tell the truth from here on out.

Like the movie "Liar, Liar" with Jim Carey? Oh, that would be priceless.

167 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:53:21pm

re: #164 wolfie

You're so lucky you got to cast your first vote for him!
Well, I certainly voted for him in 1980, too.
I wish we had someone in his ball park.......or at least a little nearer.

Ballpark? Hell, I'd be thrilled to have someone playing on the same team.

168 experiencedtraveller  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:54:04pm

But the sun is hot
and so far away.
Yet, the moon
the moon
with its gravitational lust
can pull us free
from carbon's snare
and bathe us in clean air.

169 Salem  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:54:07pm

re: #152 wolfie

I'm voting for McCain. Period.
No choice.

I sat out my first election because I didn't like either candidate.
Jimmy Carter won.
I won't make that mistake ever again.

Anyone who sits this one out is voting for Obama.

I'm not sitting it out, I'm going to vote for republicans. There are no republicans running for president.

170 BBev  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:54:48pm

re: #169 Salem

I'm not sitting it out, I'm going to vote for republicans. There are no republicans running for president.

Thats soooooooooo true.

171 Rancher  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:54:57pm

re: #99 jcm
Tolerance.

172 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:55:14pm

re: #162 Silhouette

Lynda
Carter, aka Wonder Woman, aka moonbat, said that she wished she really
had a magic lasso because she would put it around Bush and make him
tell the truth (part of the Bush lied, people died meme).


A part of my childhood died when I first heard that. I had such a crush on her as a kid. Here's hoping Daisy Duke doesn't go moonbatty!

173 P. Aaron  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:55:16pm

re: #143 experiencedtraveller

So your rant at 43 comparing John McCain to Hillary/Obama boils down to McCain's position on the environment?

Do you know who is leading the world in greenhouse gas reduction investment and technology? And where some of this work is done?

I am all for responsible ecology. But to say that the American-industry alone is causing this (theoretical) global warming is just bunk. If America "takes the lead" in supposed reducing these "greenhouse gas" emmisions, other nations are not obligated to follow, and most won't. Not while they're getting all that good stuff that Americans are going to be expected to forsake to save the planet.

The whole green-house gas theory is premised is upon GUILT. America's guilt. America's guilt of "consumption". America's fat-cat way of life is to blame for the Palestinian situation, Israeli Apartheid, starving folks in Darfur, and the Chinese suddenly liking cars 'n' beefy steaks.

No other country gets ragged on about its consumption of goods & resources to better its way of life. And McCain wants legislate US to taper our behavior in the name of a theory. A theory based upon dubious computer models.

By all means be innovative and slick about developing better ecological-tech. But don't go off doing it because we might be causing a problem. And God Forbid that we let congress and politicians legislate the way to the solutions. That is my biggest fear. Congress alone, based upon McCain's acceptance of that premise will stifle better innovation than GE doin' its own thing.

Ain't heard much.

174 wolfie  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:56:37pm

re: #167 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Ballpark? Hell, I'd be thrilled to have someone playing on the same team.

I'm not even so sure he's playing the same game!
Sometimes when he gets up to bat he starts passing the ball to the shortstop.
Metaphorically speaking.

175 slokat  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:56:57pm
176 Dianna  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:57:26pm

OT:

I'm fuming. I ended up, somehow, listening to Dr. Laura today, and she had some woman who is giving up a dog.

The woman described behaviors that are just doggy things you would expect from a dog treated as if it were a plush toy. She claimed that she'd talked to dog trainers who said there was nothing that could be done. Well, that's right - it's the blasted owner who needs training, not the dog!

Get a bleeding plushy, not a dog!

177 incanus  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:58:05pm

re: #4 Kulhwch

So everyone's coming unglued today?

}:)     [So it was just a matter of who blinks first? Who knew?]

Are you Chuck Pelto's transporter accident?

Substance doesn't match, but the style seems familiar ...

178 jcm  Thu, May 15, 2008 2:59:58pm

re: #176 Dianna

OT:

I'm fuming. I ended up, somehow, listening to Dr. Laura today, and she had some woman who is giving up a dog.

The woman described behaviors that are just doggy things you would expect from a dog treated as if it were a plush toy. She claimed that she'd talked to dog trainers who said there was nothing that could be done. Well, that's right - it's the blasted owner who needs training, not the dog!

Get a bleeding plushy, not a dog!

My wife likes Super Nanny.
The parents ask her for help in controlling the children's behavior.
Super Nanny fixes the parents.

179 BBev  Thu, May 15, 2008 3:01:24pm

re: #176 Dianna

OT:

I'm fuming. I ended up, somehow, listening to Dr. Laura today, and she had some woman who is giving up a dog.

The woman described behaviors that are just doggy things you would expect from a dog treated as if it were a plush toy. She claimed that she'd talked to dog trainers who said there was nothing that could be done. Well, that's right - it's the blasted owner who needs training, not the dog!

Get a bleeding plushy, not a dog!


Here is my plush toy
My Max ya and the cat

180 Cpt. Disco  Thu, May 15, 2008 3:01:38pm

Did anyone hear about this?
href="[Link: www.foxnews.com...] target="_blank">Code Pink Magic

181 Cpt. Disco  Thu, May 15, 2008 3:02:29pm

re: #180 Cpt. Disco

Boy, that didn't come out right. Oh well, the link still works.

182 Dianna  Thu, May 15, 2008 3:03:11pm

re: #178 jcm

Usually, that is the problem.

Grrrr.

How many dogs have been ruined by owners who just can't figure out that it's a living being, with a personality and character that can be helped or hindered by how the owner handles the animal?

I bet that woman ends up with problems with her kids. Grrrrr.

183 wolfie  Thu, May 15, 2008 3:03:57pm

re: #175 slokat

Afternoon Pic: Sedimentary Rocks & Tide Pool

Did you take that? I love it.
That is so clear, so sharp... Just beautiful!
Thanks. :)

184 vagabond trader  Thu, May 15, 2008 3:03:57pm

Hmmm, anyone else find it rather peculiar that after his whirlwind of media attention that Daddy J Wright has dropped off the radar? Not a peep from the old roost-er.

185 Dianna  Thu, May 15, 2008 3:04:25pm

re: #179 BBev

That is so cute!

My cat now has the two dogs under control, and my Male has been taking pictures of the three beasties together.

186 wolfie  Thu, May 15, 2008 3:06:41pm

re: #180 Cpt. Disco

Did anyone hear about this?
href="[Link: www.foxnews.com...] target="_blank">Code Pink Magic

LOL ! Check out zombie!
Zombie has some shots of these hags at the zomblog.

187 wolfie  Thu, May 15, 2008 3:08:35pm

re: #184 vagabond trader

Hmmm, anyone else find it rather peculiar that after his whirlwind of media attention that Daddy J Wright has dropped off the radar? Not a peep from the old roost-er.

There's a theory that the Obamites had him speak out just so Obama could denounce him. Hmmm..........Funny how quiet he is now.

188 loppyd  Thu, May 15, 2008 3:08:38pm

re: #165 BBev

When I was nine I was campaigning for Fat Boy et-el. then I grew up. My dad was a leader in the Massachusetts Democrat committee.

What brought you to the light, Carol Anne? LOL

189 BBev  Thu, May 15, 2008 3:13:00pm

re: #184 vagabond trader

Hmmm, anyone else find it rather peculiar that after his whirlwind of media attention that Daddy J Wright has dropped off the radar? Not a peep from the old roost-er.

I trying to think of something to put on the back window of my truck after Hussein Obama is christened as the Democrat candidate any Ideas? I have boxes of 8" letter.

190 BBev  Thu, May 15, 2008 3:14:46pm

re: #185 Dianna

That is so cute!

My cat now has the two dogs under control, and my Male has been taking pictures of the three beasties together.

The best part is they are both litter box trained and they use there own boxes.

191 BBev  Thu, May 15, 2008 3:17:06pm

re: #188 loppyd

What brought you to the light, Carol Anne? LOL

No. My dad died in 1973 and after that my mom made sure I had strong male role models around and one of them was a WWII drill Sargent if that does not change you nothing will!

192 slokat  Thu, May 15, 2008 3:17:21pm

re: #183 wolfie

Thanks!
& yes, last Saturday while looking for some seals to photograph... didn't find seals, though.

193 Dianna  Thu, May 15, 2008 3:19:18pm

re: #190 BBev

The walks are good for both me and the dogs. I like walking the dogs.

194 galloping granny  Thu, May 15, 2008 3:24:08pm

re: #180 Cpt. Disco

Did anyone hear about this?
href="[Link: www.foxnews.com...] target="_blank">Code Pink Magic

Yes. It was ridiculous. Talk about desperation for news coverage.

195 BBev  Thu, May 15, 2008 3:24:49pm

re: #193 Dianna

The walks are good for both me and the dogs. I like walking the dogs.


Ya I guess walking a cat would not be as fun. They don't pee on everything you walk by :-)

196 loppyd  Thu, May 15, 2008 3:37:45pm

re: #191 BBev

No. My dad died in 1973 and after that my mom made sure I had strong male role models around and one of them was a WWII drill Sargent if that does not change you nothing will!

Say no more!

And I'm sorry you lost your dad at such a young age.

Have a good night!

197 missouri boy  Thu, May 15, 2008 3:48:59pm

Fox news just ran a story about a handicapped student ,with epilepsy, at some Minnesota college, being told he can not bring his "SERVICE DOG" back to school because the dog OFFENDS THE MUSLIM STUDENTS!

If this is true...this has lawsuit all over it!

198 galloping granny  Thu, May 15, 2008 3:53:36pm

re: #197 missouri boy

Fox news just ran a story about a handicapped student ,with epilepsy, at some Minnesota college, being told he can not bring his "SERVICE DOG" back to school because the dog OFFENDS THE MUSLIM STUDENTS!

If this is true...this has lawsuit all over it!

It is true. The school involved was the high school where the individual was doing his student teaching. Some Somali muslim student threatened to kill his dog. The student teacher didn't get to finish his student teaching. The student did not get so much as a detention.

199 A Kiwi Infidel  Thu, May 15, 2008 3:57:17pm

Disgusted and appalled at the "religion of Peace"

Here they are using an 8 year old girl as a "suicide bomber" Thats not correct, as the bomb was detonated by remote control. As a Christian, I pray the Lord has mercy on the soul of the child used but I also pray for forgiveness coz I cant wait to see the perpetrators of this vile act rot forever in Hell.
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

200 clydejumper  Thu, May 15, 2008 3:58:09pm

Can someone explain to me why the Dems feel we need to pay more taxes and live on less and support those who want to ride the system so they don't have to work? I was taught that when one works hard we deserve a good days wages and not be taxed to death. But the Dems feel we should work hard so everyone has the same thing that it is not fair to get further ahead then those who choose not to.

201 galloping granny  Thu, May 15, 2008 4:00:30pm

re: #200 clydejumper

Can someone explain to me why the Dems feel we need to pay more taxes and live on less and support those who want to ride the system so they don't have to work? I was taught that when one works hard we deserve a good days wages and not be taxed to death. But the Dems feel we should work hard so everyone has the same thing that it is not fair to get further ahead then those who choose not to.

I'm trying to figure out just who it is they want to ride the system other than themselves, because as they surely demonstrated during Clinton's presidency, they gutted virtually every "safety net" program in the US.

202 A Kiwi Infidel  Thu, May 15, 2008 4:06:11pm

re: #162 Silhouette

Lynda Carter, aka Wonder Woman, aka moonbat, said that she wished she really had a magic lasso because she would put it around Bush and make him tell the truth (part of the Bush lied, people died meme).

The part of me that still has childish fantasy would love it if Obama, Hillary, and yes McCain were under a spell and could only tell the truth from here on out.

(And since I'm dreaming, I want a pony)

Put it around Al Goracle and make HIM tell the truth.

203 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 4:06:23pm
204 Roger  Thu, May 15, 2008 4:09:08pm

When Barry punishes/grabs the windfall profits from GTA 4, he''ll disenfranchise his core constituents, the basement dwellers.

205 Intrepid  Thu, May 15, 2008 4:09:20pm

re: #106 jcm

When I study, I use an Amplified, an Interlinear Bible, and Greek and Hebrew dictionaries.

Best hope for self defense if you don't have a gun? "Strong's Concordance, with Hebrew, Chaldee, and Greek". That sucker could knock out the hardest head if it's swung right.

206 A Kiwi Infidel  Thu, May 15, 2008 4:11:41pm

re: #203 song_and_dance_man

Thanks for the support and kind words.

You had better watch your peas and queues, then?

207 A Kiwi Infidel  Thu, May 15, 2008 4:13:16pm

re: #205 Intrepid

Best hope for self defense if you don't have a gun? "Strong's Concordance, with Hebrew, Chaldee, and Greek". That sucker could knock out the hardest head if it's swung right.


What? No Latin?

208 Roger  Thu, May 15, 2008 4:15:23pm

re: #206 A Kiwi Infidel

You had better watch your peas and queues, then?

Baby lima beans and sweet white corn are a good change of pace.

209 Intrepid  Thu, May 15, 2008 4:24:57pm

re: #207 A Kiwi Infidel

What? No Latin?

Nah - it doesn't touch the Vulgate.

210 missouri boy  Thu, May 15, 2008 4:29:25pm

The way the banksters at the Federal Reserve and Dept. of Treasury are going...there isn't going to be anything left to steal. (ala Bear Sterns looting.)

imho....buy gold. And buy as much as you can afford. When the hyper-inflation happens...it will happen so fast , that everyone will be asking "What Happened?' Gold could go to $6000 an oz. and the US stock market will be back to 700.
just saying...and here's hoping I am wrong.

211 missouri boy  Thu, May 15, 2008 4:37:52pm

Adding to my post @210

Right now , you can buy one oz. gold coins, with no accountablity. What I mean is , you give the coin dealer the cash, and he hands you the coin. No record of purchase. Think about that.

Which would you rather hold ..gold coins or dollar bills? Uncle is printing them faster than Bush and Congress can spend them.

212 cimom  Fri, May 16, 2008 4:17:21am

Good morning.

May God protect me from my relatives. I didn't get to pick them out, and I have to keep them.

213 Joan  Fri, May 16, 2008 8:42:35am

God protect us from Wee Olbermann.
Bleating WeeWeemann.


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