The question remains: is paying Palestinian "free lance journalists" violating prohibitions on funding terror?

We just love wallowing in our own self pity.......

It in Olby's contract that they whine....

How about the people at the shopping mall two days ago who were running and trying to escape? Do those two sisters feel any compassion for them given their own experiences?

Campaign of terror
The massacre is considered by many historians to be part of a strategy to terrify the Palestinian populations enough so that they would leave their homes and land, thus enabling them to be occupied by Jews.

I don't even know what to say to this...

/SPIT

I'm tempted to print this article and flush it down the toilet out of principle.

re: #6 bosforus

I'm tempted to print this article and flush it down the toilet out of principle.

But think of the environmental damage that would cause.

Sick.

100% sick.

What are they in this for - the hate or the money? A lot of both, I think.

Since everyone knows the Jews control the media, just let me say that they are doing a horrible job of it.

re: #7 livefreeor die

But think of the environmental damage that would cause.

You're right, there are some toxins that the wastewater treatment plant just shouldn't have to deal with.

I love my family.
I love America.
I love Israel.
I love quality over quantity.
I love quantity when done with quality.
I love warm night air.
I love conservatives.
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I love Independence.
I love humor...

(trying to counter the MSM's hate of all things good.)

I'm sure that during every Arab celebration, the MSM comments on the massacres, rapes, murders, and terrorism inflicted on Israel...

wait....they dont?

This far Left stuff worked so well for Air America you can see why MSNBC follows the template.

The MSM is celebrating the fucking "Nakba" more than they gave attention to Israel's 60th.

re: #8 kynna

Sick.

100% sick.

What are they in this for - the hate or the money? A lot of both, I think.

I think only hate could maintain these kinds of views and behaviors for so long.

re: #13 opnion

This far Left stuff worked so well for Air America you can see why MSNBC follows the template.

One can only hope it works as well for MSNBC

Semi OT: Palestinians celebrate the founding of Israel by abusing their own children.....
Storming a boarder crossing wearing a Honda and Che t-shirt. This resulted in one child being wounded.

Those too young to storm the boarder dressed up as terrorsists some even had toy RPGs. Some felt the need to nap.

re: #12 WrathofG-d

They don't even report on the rapes massacres, etc inflicted on their own people, by their own people...

From the update, stop me if any of this starts to sound familiar:

After the remaining Arabs feigned surrender and then fired on the Jewish troops, some Jews killed Arab soldiers and civilians indiscriminately. None of the sources specify how many women and children were killed (the Times report said it was about half the victims; their original casualty figure came from the Irgun source), but there were some among the casualties. Any intentional murder of children or women is completely unjustified. At least some of the women who were killed, however, became targets because of men who tried to disguise themselves as women. The Irgun commander reported, for example, that the attackers "found men dressed as women and therefore they began to shoot at women who did not hasten to go down to the place designated for gathering the prisoners."

Just some rectification of the outrageous lies about Deir Yassin that leftwing antisemites and their sheeple spread about this pre nationhood battle:

Lying about Deir Yassin
By Steven Plaut
FrontPageMagazine.com
This week is the anniversary of the events that took place in the Arab village of Deir Yassin in 1948. In recent years, Deir Yassin has been converted into a bludgeon by the Far Left, the Neonazi Right, and Israel-bashers in general. Deir Yassin is the ultimate "Man Bites Dog" news story supposedly based on the inversion of players. It is recited endlessly by the very same people who have nothing to say against a century of countless massacres of Jewish civilians by Arabs. The church in St. John's Wood in London is just one of many examples of outfits "commemorating" the "victims" of Deir Yassin this week.
Deir Yassin was a not-at-all innocent Arab village sitting near the only road into Jerusalem in 1948. In the previous December, the UN had voted to partition what was left of Madatory Palestine into two states, one a Jewish state and the other an Arab state to be named Palestine, of approximately equal sizes. The Jews of Israel accepted the plan, while the Arab states and the Palestinian Arab leadership rejected it. Had they accepted it, a Palestinian state would have arisen peacefully in 1948. In response to the UN resolution, Arabs launched attacks against Jews everywhere in the country and in particular placed the city of Jerusalem under siege. The Jewish population of Jerusalem was quite literally starving. The only road into the city passed through the area of Deir Yassin, and the Arab militiamen in the town were stopping all convoys from passing through. Since Israel had yet to be formally proclaimed, the only Jews doing the fighting were members of three poorly-armed militias. The main one was the Hagana, commanded by David Ben Gurion and the socialist Zionist party. There were two smaller ones operating independently under the command of the dissident "revisionist Zionist" movement, the Etsel and the Lehi.

Poorly-trained irregulars of the two latter militias were ordered to attack Deir Yassin to relieve the siege. They did so in ferocious hand-to-hand fighting, in which some Deir Yassin villagers were killed. The Bash-Israel lobby has always maintained that the villagers were "massacred" in cold blood, despite a distinct lack of evidence. Those who participated in the battle claim the villagers were killed when the Jewish militiamen fired into homes from which fire was directed at them. The village was successfully taken and the siege of Jerusalem was lifted. Large numbers of Jewish militiamen had been killed in the house-to-house battle for the village. Approximately 100 Arabs in the village died, a number that was later greatly inflated by anti-Jewish propagandists to 250.

Part of the problem was that the mainstream socialist Zionist parties themselves magnified the supposed misbehavior of the two opposition militias in order to discredit them in the coming political contest for control of the emerging Jewish state. This trend has been echoed in recent years, and Deir Yassin has become the "massacre of choice" for anti-Semites trying to prove the Jews are bloodthirsty barbarians. In part these have based their claims on a document by a Hagana officer, one Meir Peil, who was not actually present at the battle but surveyed the village AFTER the fighting was finished. Peil claimed he thought there had been looting and intentional killing of some villagers. The problem is that Peil is also a leftwing radical and not exactly a neutral source. Other less politicized sources tell a different tale. Even some Arab sources confirm that no massacre took place in Deir Yassin.

re: #16 gop_patriot

One can only hope it works as well for MSNBC

Their viewership is really dismal They have moved left of CNN

If you launch a war of annihilation against your neighbors, and lose, bad things might result. They got off easy.

re: #9 Silhouette

Since everyone knows the Jews control the media, just let me say that they are doing a horrible job of it.

Maybe the Jews used to control the media, but these days the Saudis own a great big chunk of it.

You'd think the Leftist MSM would LOVE Israel

Some of the comments to this MSNBC piece are spot on:

"There is NO SUCH THING as a Palestinian! Media bias crap! They are Egyptians, Jordanians, Syrians, etc. Arabs who lived on the land AFTER it was taken from the Jews in the first place. Palestine is a knockoff of a Hebrew word for Philistine. Remember david and Goliath? Just ONE of the many different tribes in the region in and around 135 A.D. This article was written by a Muslim Arab if anyone would happen to look at the author. This issue is an excuse the Muslims use to attack the Jews. The Arabs use the Palestine/Israel issue to try and keep the focus away from their own atrocities. Muslims kill, rape, maim BEHEAD innicents all the time and then wail about crimes when someone retaliates against them. Muslims are responsible for more murders/deaths than the KKK, the Spanish Inquisition, the US death penalty, and the IRA conflict all combined! Cut the antisemitic crap and face the truth - islam is a scourge on the earth and will either conquer it or destroy it. Unless the world wakes up and stops it's spread. Will MSMBC dare to post this blog?

re: #17 Killgore Trout

Semi OT: Palestinians celebrate the founding of Israel by abusing their own children.....
Storming a boarder crossing wearing a Honda and Che t-shirt. This resulted in one child being wounded.

Those too young to storm the boarder dressed up as terrorsists some even had toy RPGs. Some felt the need to nap.

Wow, I'm a crappy parent. My boys are almost in their teens and I haven't been teaching them to hate all these years. Silly me-I focused on love and concern for others-and watching your back when around people who don't share those values.

I'm certainly glad I was busy back defending gay-marriage. This is appalling. I want to scream and break things... Going for a walk before I get the stick. bye.

re: #11 Oh no...Sand People!

I love my family.
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I love quality over quantity.
I love quantity when done with quality.
I love warm night air.
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I love talking with new people.
I love variety.
I love Industrial music.
I love learning.
I love curiosity.
I love technological advancements.
I love Independence.
I love humor...

(trying to counter the MSM's hate of all things good.)

I love laughing.
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I love beautiful writing that gives me chills.
I love the smell of cut grass and gasoline fumes.
I love drinking ice water when I'm hot and thirsty.
I love reading LGF while sipping my coffee in the morning.
I love sleeping on fresh 400-thread count cotton sheets that have dried on a clothes line.
I love hugs.
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(I could go on, but I'll pass the turn to another Lizard)

Second Part:

Meanwhile, a few years back the ZOA issued a new study, Deir Yassin History of a Lie, a 32-page analysis (with 156 footnotes) by ZOA National President Morton A. Klein. Among other things, the ZOA study shows that the original claim of 254 dead was not based on any actual body count. The number was invented by Mordechai Ra'anan, leader of the Jewish soldiers who fought in Deir Yassin. He later admitted that the figure was a deliberate exaggeration in order to undermine the morale of the Arab forces, which had launched a war against the Jews in Mandatory Palestine to prevent the establishment of Israel. Other eyewitnesses to the battle estimated that about 100 Arabs had died. Despite Ra'anan's admission, the figure 254 was circulated by Palestinian Arab leader Hussein Khalidi. His claims about Deir Yassin were the basis for an article in the New York Times claiming a massacre took place--an article that has been widely reprinted and cited as "proof" of the massacre throughout the past 57 years.

Meanwhile, there have been numerous exposes of the lies that have been invented surrounding the battle for Deir Yassin and these have largely discredited the Peil "eyewitness" report.

A massacre did take indeed take place, following the events in Deir Yassin, which had occurred on Friday morning April 9, 1948. On Monday morning, April 13, 1948, an Arab mob, chanting "Deir Yassin", massacred a bus convoy of Jewish doctors and nurses who were headed to Hadassah hospital on Mount Scopus in Jerusalem. Seventy-eight members of Hadassah's medical staff were murdered in cold blood. Only recently was it revealed that some of the Hadassah nurses had found refuge in the nearby compound of the British consul, only to be turned over to Arabs by the Brits, and the Arabs proceeded to slaughter them in "revenge" for what they thought had occurred at Deir Yassin.

Both sides used the symbol of "Remember Deir Yassin" in 1948 during the war. There were Jews who intimidated Arabs with the slogan and there were Arab commanders who rallied their populace with the same adage. Meanwhile, what has fanned the flames of Deir Yassin has been the United Nations decision to confine more than three million Palestinian Arabs to refugee camps, promising them the "right of return" to Arab villages that no longer exist.
In recent years a group of pro-Arab propagandists in the US have stared holding annual "memorials" for the "victims" of the
"massacre" in Deir Yassin. The late Edward Said had been a member and the group includes such people as anti-Semite Norman Finkelstein, Saudi-financed ex-congressman Paul Findlay, and PLO propagandist Hanan Ashwari. These are people who have never denounced Arab massacres of Jewish children (or unarmed women, teenagers or men), which massacres were committed not by poorly trained irregulars in the heat of a crucial battle, but by Islamofascist terrorists awash in money and under the direct personal command of the PLO.

BBFN ..

Time to go home and take the black lab down to the American river for a swim ...

re: #28 goddessoftheclassroom

goddess, please put Jim Robinson of FreeRepublic.com blog on your prayer list! He is in surgery to amputate his left leg.

re: #11 Oh no...Sand People!

I love my family.
I love America.
I love Israel.
I love quality over quantity.
I love quantity when done with quality.
I love warm night air.
I love conservatives.
I love strong defenses.
I love English as the globally accepted language of business.
I love being able to worship how, where, or what I may.
I love talk radio.
I love intelligent debate.
I love talking with new people.
I love variety.
I love Industrial music.
I love learning.
I love curiosity.
I love technological advancements.
I love Independence.
I love humor...

(trying to counter the MSM's hate of all things good.)

Puppies and kitties.

While we're on the topic of the great Nakba Whitewash by the MSM, there was this little radio gem, part of yesterday's NPR program "All Things Considered."

This one actually forced me to change the station. Which was fine, 'cause I ended up in a much more sane place listening to the re-broadcast of Dennis Miller's morning show.

re: #28 goddessoftheclassroom

I love laughing.
I love clever puns.
I love beautiful writing that gives me chills.
I love the smell of cut grass and gasoline fumes.
I love drinking ice water when I'm hot and thirsty.
I love reading LGF while sipping my coffee in the morning.
I love sleeping on fresh 400-thread count cotton sheets that have dried on a clothes line.
I love hugs.
I love screaming for my sports team as someone scores.

(I could go on, but I'll pass the turn to another Lizard)

Here, hows this?

re: #23 galloping granny

That was heavy sarcasm. The anti-semetics claim that Jews control this or Jews control that. I wondered at leaving off the tag.

"Campaign of Terror"

The massacre is considered by many historians to be part of a strategy to terrify the Palestinian populations enough so that they would leave their homes and land, thus enabling them to be occupied by Jews."

The MSM finally uses the T word.

May they rot in hell.

re: #35 Silhouette

That was heavy sarcasm. The anti-semetics claim that Jews control this or Jews control that. I wondered at leaving off the tag.

Oh don't worry - I knew you were being sarcastic.

When terrorists attacked America on 9/11,the MSM blamed United States foreign policy over the years as the culprit. When terrorists attack Israel,the MSM blames Israeli foreign policy.

When terrorists kill Americans,the MSM calls them "Freedom Fighters" or,at the very worst "insurgents",but never terrorists. When terrorists kill Israeli's the MSM calls them "Freedom Fighters" or "insurgents",but never terrorists.

When terrorists kill women and children with suicide bombs in Iraq,the number of people killed is not mentioned as a reason to denounce the murderous actions of the terrorists,it is mentioned as a reason for America to surrender in Iraq to the demands of the terrorists. When terrorists kill women and children with missiles fired into Israeli cities,the number of people killed is not mentioned as a reason to denounce the murderous actions of the terrorists,it is mentioned as a reason for Israel to surrender Her land to the terrorists and cave in to their demands.

Do I need to continue on with this or do you see the obvious pattern?

re: #29 eaglewingz08

The Brits did that?!

I don't feel so bad about the King David Hotel, then.

re: #29 eaglewingz08

Sadly throughout history Jewish blood is cheap so this Atrocity is forgotten while Arab lies live on.

re: #39 MandyManners

That was part of the norm. The Brits had a nasty habit of either (a) hading Jews over to the Arabs, (b) assiting the Arabs, or (c) ignoring what was being done to the Jew by the Arabs.

re: #31 Alouette

goddess, please put Jim Robinson of FreeRepublic.com blog on your prayer list! He is in surgery to amputate his left leg.

Done.

The Deir Yassin Massacre.

The Jenin Massacre.

The Israeli Genocide Against the Palestinians.

The Tooth Fairy.

/and the category is...

re: #39 MandyManners

The Brits did that?!

I don't feel so bad about the King David Hotel, then.

The British were warned before the blast at the King David. They arrogantly chose to ignore it. ( the veracity of the warning has been debated, but I think there are enough sources to verify it)

palestinians don't mourn. they only seethe.
and they seethe whether israel celebrates or not.

re: #44 Nevergiveup

The British were warned before the blast at the King David. They arrogantly chose to ignore it. ( the veracity of the warning has been debated, but I think there are enough sources to verify it)

And the King David was British military headquarters, not a civilian resort.

re: #6 bosforus

I'm tempted to print this article and flush it down the toilet out of principle.

LOL why don't you do it. and tell us how it makes you fell.

re: #28 goddessoftheclassroom

I love laughing.
I love clever puns.
I love beautiful writing that gives me chills.
I love the smell of cut grass and gasoline fumes.
I love drinking ice water when I'm hot and thirsty.
I love reading LGF while sipping my coffee in the morning.
I love sleeping on fresh 400-thread count cotton sheets that have dried on a clothes line.
I love hugs.
I love screaming for my sports team as someone scores.

(I could go on, but I'll pass the turn to another Lizard)

Baseball, southern California in the summertime, my cat (to whom I'm tragically allergic), science fiction.

And the freedom to like or dislike anything else as I please, damn it.

This is nothing more than blatant, vile jew-hating,revisionist propaganda.
The MSM is our #1 enemy.

I love how they say that all that violence was perpetrated by "Jewish militant groups". That's all they had, the Haganah and the Irgun, because THEY HAD NO ARMY! They had to defend themselves somehow against the combined might of Egypt, Jordan, and Syria!

Was it this bad on Israel's 50th anniversary?

re: #41 WrathofG-d

That was part of the norm. The Brits had a nasty habit of either (a) hading Jews over to the Arabs, (b) assiting the Arabs, or (c) ignoring what was being done to the Jew by the Arabs.

Then, why Balfour?

check out the BBC's Israel @ 60:

Only Nakba, paLIE refugee, self hating Barenboim (who is an honorary PaLIEstinian), life of an Arab in Israel crap not one article saying anything remotely true or good about Israel while at the same time ignoring the ~800,000 Jewish refugees from the Muslim/Arab world.

Just pure PaLIE propoganda.

re: #44 Nevergiveup

The British were warned before the blast at the King David. They arrogantly chose to ignore it. ( the veracity of the warning has been debated, but I think there are enough sources to verify it)

Even if the warning did not come, the Brits were supporting the Arabs.

re: #39 MandyManners

The Brits did that?!

I don't feel so bad about the King David Hotel, then.

The had plenty of time to evacuate.

Irgun leader Menachem Begin stressed his desire to avoid civilian casualties and said three telephone calls were placed, one to the hotel, another to the French Consulate, and a third to the Palestine Post, warning that explosives in the King David Hotel would soon be detonated.

Slightly, but not much OT: this Sunday is the 60th Anniversary celebration of Israel's Independence, here in Los Angeles. I will go and participate. In year's past, the local media have not attended, most especially the Los Angeles Times. This year, California Governor Arnold Schwartzenegger will be there, along with other politicians.

Let's see the local MSM not cover this event [estimating about 40,000 people to attend].

By the way, all Lizards, the event is at Woodley Park in the Valley.

re: #50 charles_martel

I love how they say that all that violence was perpetrated by
"Jewish militant groups". That's all they had, the Haganah and the
Irgun, because THEY HAD NO ARMY! They had to defend themselves somehow
against the combined might of Egypt, Jordan, and Syria!

And Iraq, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia & Yemen.

re: #52 MandyManners

Don't know really. Difference between the Gov and the people I guess. The entire thing was confused. While writing the Balfour they were making promises to the Arabs.

I suggest you read a book, but can't mention the name of the book or I'll get banned....

re: #58 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Listen, we all know that the Jewish Terrorist violence was not necessary as they could have easily just gone and lived in one of the other 22 other Jewish Countries.

re: #50 charles_martel

I love how they say that all that violence was perpetrated by "Jewish militant groups". That's all they had, the Haganah and the Irgun, because THEY HAD NO ARMY! They had to defend themselves somehow against the combined might of Egypt, Jordan, and Syria!

They also had to defend themselves against the British, who were not always any too nice.

If anyone hasn't read the book, "O, Jerusalem", you should. It is required reading.

re: #47 nyc redneck

LOL why don't you do it. and tell us how it makes you fell.

I'd feel better putting it to a vote of any Utah taxpayers here, since they'd ultimately be paying for it. I'm in a state building.

Here this should make us all just a tad bit happier.

Refugee Problem Persists:

Today, according to the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestinian Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA), at least 5 million Palestinians and their descendants are registered as refugees. The figure includes hundreds of thousands who became refugees as a result of the Six-Day War in 1967, when Israel occupied the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem. As refugees, those living in other countries such as Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria, are not recognized as citizens and have few rights, despite living there for decades. In effect they are stateless unless and until a Palestinian state is created.

The fate of the Jaber family is typical of many Palestinians. They lived in Jordan for two years, then moved to Jericho and after five years moved to Jerusalem, when the sisters’ mother wanted to be close to what was once their home.

Many have given up hope of returning to the homes they lost in 1948; instead, they watch with bitterness and sadness the celebrations for Israel's 60 years of statehood, which they feel came at their expense.

"I feel ashamed to be a refugee," said Zeinab. "Three months ago we went to Deir Yassin; our house is used as a storage place for hospital workers. I want my family house back," she said.

And as the U.S. struggles to keep Israel and the Palestinian Authority committed to making an arrangement that will lead to the creation of a two-nation state, it is the plight of the refugees – most particularly, whether they should be allowed to return to their original homes or what is sufficient compensation – that still proves to be one of the biggest obstacles for a lasting peace.

"How can Israel celebrate when we still have this refugee problem?" said Fatima, who is the mother of 11 children."

You can't make this stuff up.

re: #59 WrathofG-d

Don't know really. Difference between the Gov and the people I guess. The entire thing was confused. While writing the Balfour they were making promises to the Arabs.

I suggest you read a book, but can't mention the name of the book or I'll get banned....

I know a bit about the era from college, here and am reading Power, Faith and Fantasy by Michael Oren.

BTW, naming a book would get you banned?

re: #48 Fat Jolly Penguin

I love Americans.
I love Australian Shiraz wine.
I love music.
I love my dog
I love my 2 beautiful daughters
I love dancing
I love going to the beach and looking at beautiful women

re: #45 nyc redneck

palestinians don't mourn. they only seethe.
and they seethe whether israel celebrates or not.

They seethe for the sake of seething.

re: #51 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Was it this bad on Israel's 50th anniversary?

I don't have any scientific comparison of headline to headline, but in my experience, I'd say the hate has always been there, but it is more acceptable in public now. The liars are becoming more bold.

re: #60 WrathofG-d

The character from that time who fascinates me is the Haj. Learning more about him was one of the first things I pursued here when I joined.

How dare those violent Jews use violence*!

*to resist another genocide

re: #66 MandyManners

BTW, naming a book would get you banned?

Yes.

re: #72 WrathofG-d

Can you give us a hint?

re: #72 WrathofG-d

Even in pig Latin?

*giggle*

Never mind.

While I was typing the update above, another Nakba article was published.

There are now 1,957 results in a search for Nakba at Google News.

At Google News, there are currently 1,956 results in a search for Nakba.

I'm sure that if you search google for "Israel at 60" you will get a lot of results who's content is one and the same as "Al-Nakba".

Israel's 60th for the MSM is another chance to bash Israel.

Women screaming and children trying to escape a village clinic in Ashkelon on fire after a Palestinian rocket attack on Israeli civilians.

Inconvenient truth.

re: #75 Charles

While I was typing the update above, another Nakba article was published.

There are now 1,957 results in a search for Nakba at Google News.

Top one: 60 years of ethnic cleansing.

If you really want to know the name of the book, turn your nic blue and maybe Wrath will email it to you.

/helpful suggestion

[Link: www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...]

[Link: www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...]

[Link: query.nytimes.com...]

[Link: www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...]

JUST
SAYIN,
R

The stupid asshat author who thinks she's something called a "Palestinian," actually cites Wikipedia as evidence for her fabricated story.

Liberals are always cheering for who they believe are the little guy. Even if it means the destruction of Western Civilization.

re: #73 Occasional Reader

With some thought, it would be obvious. Its the writer not the book that is the problem. There were a few people advocat

i

ng his beliefs (actual beliefs not those att

r

ibuted to him, and not those of his followers) and it was requested that if those few people liked this individual so much they should get off LGF....and rightfully so!

However, I would not want to rub LGF the wrong way, so I probably should just move on.

re: #82 conservativeChick

Liberals are always cheering for who they believe are the little guy. Even if it means the destruction of Western Civilization.

Um, destruction of Western Civilization is their goal.

re: #78 MandyManners

Top one: 60 years of ethnic cleansing.

That website should contrast and compare the Arab population of Tel Aviv to the Jewish population of Gaza.

I'm seriously alarmed at the way delegitimising Israel has gone mainstream. With another decade of Muslim immigration and brainwashing in universities, I'll be surprised if there is a single country left that will speak up in Israel's defense.

I'm beginning to get more than a little irritated at your constant sniping, WrathofG-d.

re: #87 Charles

No "sniping" was meant. Seriously!

Charles,
Check out my first link when I do a google news search for 'israel':
israel
In case you don't get the same thing I did, the article is from the AFP:
Palestinians mark 'catastrophe' of Israel's birth

Wrath, lemme help you out here...

[Link: www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...]

OK?,
R

re: #65 ted

The figure includes hundreds of thousands who became refugees as a result of the Six-Day War in 1967, when Israel occupied the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem.

That is pure bullshit.

re: #87 Charles

I am open to any suggestions you have on how you would like me to respond/proceed when this issue is touched on.

re: #92 WrathofG-d

I am open to any suggestions you have on how you would like me to respond/proceed when this issue is touched on.

I have no idea what you're talking about.

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re: #92 WrathofG-d

Don't endorse.

Disclaimer if necessary.

THE
USUAL,
R

All the Jewish villages from Biblical and Talmudic times that were destroyed and occupied by the Arabs.

Even though 'naqba' translates to 'catastrophe', they know no one knows that.

re: #90 Render

Ok, now you are going to get me in trouble. It was never my intention that there be links, naming, etc. In fact, that is actually the complete opposite of what I wanted. I was trying my best to avoid that. In hindsight, I now realize that I should have just left the entire thing alone...

Good evening LGF friends. It is a cool and overcast night here on the Wisconsin Illinois border. I tried to plant some flowers this afternoon but my hands wouldn't cooperate. Maybe tomorrow.

what's cookin?

Ever notice how the Dems and the MSM just LOVE the losers? If you've been utterly defeated, they'll love you forever.

Maybe that's why they want the US to lose in Iraq and Afghanistan - so that they can love us again.

Orion

re: #94 littleben

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Does the msm realize that, since their Lord Obama has declared Israel to be our "stalwart ally," they are now working against him by assisting it its delegitimization and destruction?

Or maybe they understand that Obama is just talkin' a little taqqiyah. (That's bullshit, in Texan.)

re: #98 WrathofG-d

Ok, now you are going to get me in trouble. It was never my intention that there be links, naming, etc. In fact, that is actually the complete opposite of what I wanted. I was trying my best to avoid that. In hindsight, I now realize that I should have just left the entire thing alone...

No, obviously you thought you could just keep making little needling remarks instead.

re: #96 Alouette

All the Jewish villages from Biblical and Talmudic times that were destroyed and occupied by the Arabs.

What a great link. Thanks - I've bookmarked it.

re: #28 goddessoftheclassroom

I love laughing.
I love clever puns.
I love beautiful writing that gives me chills.
I love the smell of cut grass and gasoline fumes.
I love drinking ice water when I'm hot and thirsty.
I love reading LGF while sipping my coffee in the morning.
I love sleeping on fresh 400-thread count cotton sheets that have dried on a clothes line.
I love hugs.
I love screaming for my sports team as someone scores.

(I could go on, but I'll pass the turn to another Lizard)

I love "Old dogs & chidren & Watermelon wine" Tom T Hall

It was mostly panic or pressure from the various forces trying to annihilate the Jews that resulted in the Arabs fleeing Israel. It’s as if in the last 60 years we have revised all of history to fit a leftist agenda. However we have the net, you just can’t hide a lie anymore. 60 years in 60 seconds, Happy Birthday Israel.

re: #11 Oh no...Sand People!

I love my family.
I love America.
I love Israel.
I love quality over quantity.
I love quantity when done with quality.
I love warm night air.
I love conservatives.
I love strong defenses.
I love English as the globally accepted language of business.
I love being able to worship how, where, or what I may.
I love talk radio.
I love intelligent debate.
I love talking with new people.
I love variety.
I love Industrial music.
I love learning.
I love curiosity.
I love technological advancements.
I love Independence.
I love humor...

(trying to counter the MSM's hate of all things good.)

I love disposable diapers.
I love air conditioning.
I love my minivan.
I love Jesus.
I love the option of being a stay-at-home mom.
I love my manly husband....

Thanks for the inspiration!

re: #93 Charles

It is not my intention to get into an argument or "battle" of any sort with you. I was only asking, I guess, for some explaination of what you considered "sniping" so that I could do my best not to do it.

If you wish for the entire subject to be dropped however, I can, of course, do that too.

What subject? I still have no idea what you're complaining about.

re: #98 WrathofG-d

Sorry lil bro,

Actually I was trying to do the exact opposite.

===

Real life rears its ugly head. Must fix dinner or be turned into a pillar of salt. Back later...

ARGH,
R

re: #107 kynna

Maybe our leader could start a thread about things we love that offend followers of the ROP....

I just noticed that hitting the "new comments" button also gives us whatever Charles has updated up top- I don't have to refresh to see them... Or is that my imagination? 'Cause it's a cool feature if so.

re: #111 Whiterasta

Maybe our leader could start a thread about things we love that offend followers of the ROP....

I love women.

So we have Obama complaining about "false arguments" today, yet he fails to speak out on what is an obvious false argument - that the founding of Israel PRECLUDED the founding of a Palestinian state.

That is the story told, yet two states were established by the UN. One decided to try to get their Arab buddies together and destroy the other and ended getting gobbled up by the said "Arab buddies" in the process.

The real story is about Arabs screwing the Palestinians - not the Jews.

re: #103 & 109 Charles

I truly believe that we (again) have a misunderstanding. It was never really my intent to make either "sniping" or "needling" remarks towards you. I fully respect any decisions you make regarding your site, LGF. I really did not mean anything more than what I have posted. Which is that you do not believe that certain things should be posted at your site. It is not my intention to make "sniping" or "needling" remarks, and thus when I realized that you felt that I was, I only asked that you explain to me what you interpreted as such, so that I could do my best not to continue to do that on your site.

It is unfortunate that we are having so much trouble understanding eachother on this issue. It is not, and was not, my desire to cause a flare up.

re: #113 VegasRick

I love women.

I love BBQ ribs.

re: #21 opnion

Their viewership is really dismal They have moved left of CNN

...And viewership of the news on all the three letter networks seems to be dropping. Could it be because the public has figured out that there are agendas behind the reporting? Naw...

re: #116 mama winger

I love BBQ ribs.

PORK barbecue. :)

/Memphis style

re: #116 mama winger

I love BBQ ribs.

BBQ Pork tenderloin.....mmmmmmmmmmmm

OT - is anyone else having trouble with YouTube today?

re: #118 gop_patriot

PORK barbecue. :)

/Memphis style

Is there any other kind ? :)

re: #118 gop_patriot

PORK barbecue. :)

/Memphis style

A-HA!

Memphis is in Egypt!

Therefore, pork barbecue was invented by Muslims! TA-DA!

re: #120 mama winger

OT - is anyone else having trouble with YouTube today?

My tube is fine!

Sniping:

I suggest you read a book, but can't mention the name of the book or I'll get banned...

At what point in the history of this blog has anyone been banned for mentioning a book?

re: #120 mama winger

Not me...

re: #121 mama winger

Is there any other kind ? :)

Well, there are these folks over in Texas, that use cows. ROFLOL!
/love my Texas friends

re: #82 conservativeChick

Liberals are always cheering for who they believe are the little guy. Even if it means the destruction of Western Civilization.

yes, and their idea of the underdog is absurd. it seems obvious to me that israel is the country to defend. they are worth defending. they are so vastly outnumbered by the millions of savages that surround them and want to kill them.
the msm is comprised of really evil people. what other conclusion is there?

re: #113 VegasRick

I love pork chops, smoked. With bone sucking sauce.

(WWW.bonesucking.com)

NHL Today for puck-heads:
PIT 0
PHI 0
7:30 PM EST
Penguins lead series 3-0

re: #123 VegasRick

My tube is fine!

Hmmmm - I had this problem last night too. When loading, YouTube stops at the 2 second mark for any clip, and gets stuck there.

It's aliens.

re: #122 Occasional Reader

A-HA!

Memphis is in Egypt!

Therefore, pork barbecue was invented by Muslims! TA-DA!

You are a wily one, you are.

re: #129 mama winger

and gets stuck there

Your YouTube's been tied?

re: #128 sngnsgt

NHL Today for puck-heads:
PIT 0
PHI 0
7:30 PM EST
Penguins lead series 3-0

there's still hockey?

re: #131 Occasional Reader

Your YouTube's been tied?

have to prevent any further little you's.

Correction:

That's, [Link: www.bonesucking.com...]

Best BBQ sauce in the world!

McCain's response to Obama's hissy fit:

“I think Barack Obama needs to sit down and explain why he wants to talk with a man who is the head of a government that is a state sponsor of terror, that is responsible for the killing of brave young Americans, who wants to wipe Israel off the map, denies the Holocaust. That is what I think that Senator Obama ought to explain to the American people,” he said while on a bus to the airport.

“It is a serious error on the part of Senator Obama that shows naiveté and inexperience and lack of judgment to say that he wants to sit down across the table from an individual who leads a country who says that Israel is a stinking corpse, that is dedicated to the extinction of Israel. My question is what does he want to talk about?”

I'll give you my 2 cents on Barbeque...
PORK STEAKS...Missouri style!

re: #133 mama winger

have to prevent any further little you's.

YOU'RE NOT MY MOTHER! IT'S A LIE! TAKE IT BACK, TAKE IT BACK!

re: #134 WhiteRasta

Correction:

That's, [Link: www.bonesucking.com...]

Best BBQ sauce in the world!

I've never heard of that - thanks for the tip!

not that I cook much, but I do have people

re: #124 Charles

I now realize I must be wrong, but it was my understanding that throughout my time on LGF, individuals were told specifically not to mention, or advocate anything by Rabbi Meir Kahane (including his books) as groups founded by him are on the U.S. Terrorist List, and that type of advocacy (rightfully so!) would not be tolerated on LGF, and doing so would result in non-negotiable banning.

In hindsight, I now realize and should add, that since I believed this to be true, I should have just let the whole thing alone altogether. But, I didn't. For that I sincerely appologize.

re: #137 Occasional Reader

YOU'RE NOT MY MOTHER! IT'S A LIE! TAKE IT BACK, TAKE IT BACK!

Have you ever read Dr. Seuss's book "Are You My Mother"?

I like to think of myself as the giant crane.

Oh, dear!

One of Harry Reid's admirers: At a booksigning!

Just scroll down a little.

Poor woman.

re: #134 WhiteRasta

Correction:

That's, [Link: www.bonesucking.com...]

Best BBQ sauce in the world!

Without your endorsement, there would have been ABSOLUTELY NO WAY I'd have clicked on a link marked "bonesucking.com"...

re: #133 mama winger

have to prevent any further little you's.

This thread has gone down the tube.

re: #129 mama winger

:) No aliens here, just watched a whole video.

/I'd share it, but you'd probably hate it. Disturbed, hard/alt rock band. lol

re: #102 Tigger2005

Does the msm realize that, since their Lord Obama has declared Israel to be our "stalwart ally," they are now working against him by assisting it its delegitimization and destruction?

Or maybe they understand that Obama is just talkin' a little taqqiyah. (That's bullshit, in Texan.)

Bingo! Obama is not particularly loyal to the US. Why would he have any feeling for Israel.
I am pretty sure that his dog in the figjht is the Paalestinians.

re: #134 WhiteRasta

Correction:

That's, [Link: www.bonesucking.com...]

Best BBQ sauce in the world!

I'm going to try some. Thanks for the link.

What the Nakba really was.
Nakba means there is no Palestine

I'm out of here. Have a good evening, lizards.

re: #144 gop_patriot

:) No aliens here, just watched a whole video.

/I'd share it, but you'd probably hate it. Disturbed, hard/alt rock band. lol

Yeah, I'm more into polka. haha :)

(truly do love the polka - how can you not smile)

re: #148 Dianna

I'm out of here. Have a good evening, lizards.

Hi Dianna!
Bye Dianna!

Where did the Arabs get their armies and equipment?

re: #132 mama winger

Stanley Cup Play-offs

re: #135 loppyd

McCain's response to Obama's hissy fit:

“I think Barack Obama needs to sit down and explain why he wants to talk with a man who is the head of a government that is a state sponsor of terror, that is responsible for the killing of brave young Americans, who wants to wipe Israel off the map, denies the Holocaust. That is what I think that Senator Obama ought to explain to the American people,” he said while on a bus to the airport.

“It is a serious error on the part of Senator Obama that shows naivet%uFFFD and inexperience and lack of judgment to say that he wants to sit down across the table from an individual who leads a country who says that Israel is a stinking corpse, that is dedicated to the extinction of Israel. My question is what does he want to talk about?”

This is an incomplete quote loppyd. I heard the entire comment. Matter of fact, it looks completely rewritten. Let me see if I can find the video of it.

re: #139 WrathofG-d

I now realize I must be wrong, but it was my understanding that throughout my time on LGF, individuals were told specifically not to mention, or advocate anything by Rabbi Meir Kahane (including his books) as groups founded by him are on the U.S. Terrorist List, and that type of advocacy (rightfully so!) would not be tolerated on LGF, and doing so would result in non-negotiable banning.

In hindsight, I now realize and should add, that since I believed this to be true, I should have just let the whole thing alone altogether. But, I didn't. For that I sincerely appologize.

Oh, now I see. This isn't just about a book, is it?

And that's right, I'm not going to allow support for the terrorist group Kach or their founder Kahane to be expressed here, for the reasons you listed.

Article flushed.
It was a 2-flusher. Turns out there was more sh*t in that article than I had anticipated. Didn't want to clog the pipes.

Muslims are born liars. But Barrack believes them.

re: #153 galloping granny

was he on a bus in the video?

re: #151 MandyManners

Where did the Arabs get their armies and equipment?

They used to get stuff from the USSR. Now it's from Iran.

re: #148 Dianna

Me too, time to finish laundry and start dinner. :)

See ya later, Dianna, and everyone else!

re: #149 mama winger

Polkas are fun! We have a lot of Midwestern retirees down here in Arkansas, especially in my little city. Many folks from Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Chicago- they brought their food, beer, and polkas with them. :)

re: #135 loppyd

There are moments when I can find some redeeming qualities in McCain, that was one.

re: #159 Alouette

They used to get stuff from the USSR. Now it's from Iran.

I meant the armies that tried to stop Israel from being founded. I should've been clearer. Sorry.

re: #113 VegasRick

I love women.

Yeah, with big hooters, pork products, liquor, Christians, Jews & Atheists (all not RoPers.)
And, TaDa! Mohammad cartoons.

re: #161 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

There are moments when I can find some redeeming qualities in McCain, that was one.

My favorite sentence was the last one.

"My question is what does he want to talk about?"

/rim shot!

re: #162 MandyManners

I meant the armies that tried to stop Israel from being founded. I should've been clearer. Sorry.

Britain

re: #162 MandyManners

I meant the armies that tried to stop Israel from being founded. I should've been clearer. Sorry.

USSR and Britain.

Israel, before 1973, received most of its arms from France.

The "real" NaKBA.

re: #154 Charles

I am very glad that we were able to finally understand what was going on here, and where both of us were coming from.

And for the record, I only mentioned one of his books because it had a very good history on the behavior of the British toward Jews during the Mandate period, which was what I was discussing with Mandy at that time. (ie: this is why I thought of it at all)

In no way did I intend to advocate anything else about that individual, or the group(s) he founded. Eitherway, sorry to have caused you any trouble.

re: #164 loppyd

"My question is what does he want to talk about?"

"Israel" and "under the bus" come to mind.

Hey, Grandma and Wright need the company.
/

re: #157 pat

Muslims are born liars. But Barrack believes them.

They say they want to kill us, they say they want to destroy Israel, they say they want to put our women in garbage bags.............They don't lie ALL of the time and the chosen/no middle name/waffle eating obombu does not believe them.

The Palestinians are big believers in the Nazi technique: if you tell a lie enough times, people start to believe it.

Only the PaleNazis have an advantage. Most of the Western media is only too happy to repeat their lies over and over, and run their staged Pallywood videos as if they were documentaries.

re: #158 loppyd

was he on a bus in the video?

Yes he was. I can't find the video on Fox though. It is from this morning.

re: #163 opnion

Yeah, with big hooters, pork products, liquor, Christians, Jews & Atheists (all not RoPers.)
And, TaDa! Mohammad cartoons.

Yep, boobs and liquor. Nothing better.

Does anyone know the title of the book that tells the story of how allied soldiers and whatnot volunteered to help the Jews fight?

re: #154 Charles

Charles -

Amazingly enough, Kahane, Fatah, and Hamas AGREE on one thing - that the "Other" should not be allowed to live in "the State" - whether Israel or Palestine. Guess that is par for the course of extreme politics, eh?

-S-

re: #157 pat

Muslims are born liars. But Barrack believes them.

U huh & Barry said that his parents met at the Selma March.
He was four at the time Woulda thought that the would have met prior.
He must just admire liars

re: #168 WrathofG-d

I am very glad that we were able to finally understand what was going on here, and where both of us were coming from.

And for the record, I only mentioned one of his books because it had a very good history on the behavior of the British toward Jews during the Mandate period, which was what I was discussing with Mandy at that time. (ie: this is why I thought of it at all)

In no way did I intend to advocate anything else about that individual, or the group(s) he founded. Eitherway, sorry to have caused you any trouble.

In the future, you might want to try writing something like you wrote above, instead of making cryptic remarks about getting banned for mentioning books.

re: #139 WrathofG-d

I now realize I must be wrong, but it was my understanding that throughout my time on LGF, individuals were told specifically not to mention, or advocate anything by Rabbi Meir Kahane HYD(including his books) as groups founded by him are on the U.S. Terrorist List, and that type of advocacy (rightfully so!) would not be tolerated on LGF, and doing so would result in non-negotiable banning.

In hindsight, I now realize and should add, that since I believed this to be true, I should have just let the whole thing alone altogether. But, I didn't. For that I sincerely appologize.

Not only was some of his views on what is happening in Israel nearly prophetic, it now has been revealed that he was the first victim of the Iran directed Jihad against teh West, the US and the Jews.

re: #172 galloping granny

Yes he was. I can't find the video on Fox though. It is from this morning.

It will be on the news tonight....

I have to hit the bricks.

Have a good night, Lizard Nation.

Hope it's peaceful.

re: #174 MandyManners

Does anyone know the title of the book that tells the story of how allied soldiers and whatnot volunteered to help the Jews fight?

Well there is "Cast a Giant Shadow" about Col. Mickey Marcus.

re: #173 VegasRick

Yep, boobs and liquor. Nothing better.

Makes life worth livin! Yeah Baby!

re: #174 MandyManners

Does anyone know the title of the book that tells the story of how allied soldiers and whatnot volunteered to help the Jews fight?

Mandy, there are a lot of books that include at least some of that. One that readily comes to mind is Exodus by Leon Uris. He also wrote a few others about Israel. If you could describe a bit more of the plot we might be of more help.

re: #179 loppyd

It will be on the news tonight....

I have to hit the bricks.

Have a good night, Lizard Nation.

Hope it's peaceful.

Coming up on Fox right now.

re: #182 galloping granny

Mandy, there are a lot of books that include at least some of that. One that readily comes to mind is Exodus by Leon Uris. He also wrote a few others about Israel. If you could describe a bit more of the plot we might be of more help.

And O Jerusalem

To make up for the value of 2 pieces of paper and the time it took me to tear them up and flush them down the toilet I'll leave work early. Seems like a fair trade. Everyone wins!
BBL

re: #180 Nevergiveup

Well there is "Cast a Giant Shadow" about Col. Mickey Marcus.

This was written by a Jew. It has a bluish cover and and the Israeli flag on the front. It's a paperback.

The Jews are, for all intents and purposes, the aboriginal people of the littel patch of earth bordering the eastern Mediteranean called Israel.

I have long felt this, and said this.

I was very gratified to see Irwin Cotler, former Minister of Justice for Canada and one of her most principled politicians, make this case in the JPOST yesterday.

Here is the link.

The gathering storm, and beyond

Israel, then, is the aboriginal homeland of the Jewish people across space and time. It is not just a homeland for the Jewish people, a place of refuge, asylum and protection. It is the homeland of the Jewish people, wherever and whenever it may be; and its birth certificate originates in its inception as a First Nation, and not simply, however important, in its United Nations international birth certificate.

The State of Israel, then, as a political and juridical entity, overlaps with the "aboriginal Jewish homeland"; it is, in international legal terms, a successor state to the biblical, or aboriginal, Jewish kingdoms. But that aboriginal homeland is also claimed by another people, the Palestinian/Arab people, who see it as their place and patrimony.

Much more. Please read it.

re: #178 littleben

Not only was some of his views on what is happening in Israel nearly prophetic, it now has been revealed that he was the first victim of the Iran directed Jihad against teh West, the US and the Jews.

Without going into Kahane himself, he was murdered by the same group responsible for the 1st world trade center bombing. Materials gathered in the investigation of his murder lead directly to those responsible for that blast, Unfortunately the police, for a variety of reasons, did not bother to translate most of the gathered papers till AFTER that 1st world trade center blast.

re: #182 galloping granny

Mandy, there are a lot of books that include at least some of that. One that readily comes to mind is Exodus by Leon Uris. He also wrote a few others about Israel. If you could describe a bit more of the plot we might be of more help.

It's not Uris.

re: #183 song_and_dance_man

If Jimmy Carter opens a Liquor Store I'm still not shopping there.

LOL! It took me a minute but I got it!

re: #183 song_and_dance_man

If Jimmy Carter opens a Liquor Store I'm still not shopping there.

What if it was the only one in town? Moral Dilema.

Wrath, I just arrived. Are you causing trouble again?

;

re: #178 littleben

He may have been "prophetic," and he was assassinated by Islamic terrorists--but he was also an extremist himself. And the groups that were inspired by him went on to become outright terrorists.

re: #177 Charles

I will do.

The only reason I didn't at that time is because I thought that if I had said "Hey 'Mandymanners' you should read "They Must Go!" by Kahane" its got a great history of how Jews were treated by the British during the Mandate Period", it would have fallen under "advocacy of Kahane" (which it was not intended to do) and I would have been banned.

(having been warned a couple times, and actually banned once already, I am a bit sensitive.)

Again, very sorry for causing any trouble.

A great book on the history of modern Israel that debunks most Arab/Muslim claims is The Siege by Conor Cruise O'Brien.

O'Brien was Ireland's UN Ambassador. He sat next to Iraq and Iran and got tired of their Nazi-like Jew-hatred and constant Islamo-lies.

re: #194 Charles

He may have been "prophetic," but he was also an extremist. And the groups that were inspired by him went on to become outright terrorists.

That whole "prophetic" thing seems to spawn a lot of radical beliefs.

re: #196 Abu Boo Boo

A great book on the history of modern Israel that debunks most Arab/Muslim claims is The Siege by Conor Cruise O'Brien.

O'Brien was Ireland's UN Ambassador. He sat next to Iraq and Iran and got tired of their Nazi-like Jew-hatred and constant Islamo-lies.

Perfect.

re: #196 Abu Boo Boo

A great book on the history
of modern Israel that debunks most Arab/Muslim claims is The Siege by Conor Cruise O'Brien.

O'Brien was Ireland's UN Ambassador. He sat next to Iraq and Iran and got tired of their Nazi-like Jew-hatred and constant Islamo-lies.

Thats interesting. One of the better books ever written about Irish resistance to Britain was "Trinity", by Leon Uris

re: #194 Charles

Its a good deal more complicated than that.

The man recognized what it would take to fight the arab islamic world when the good guy's side was being led by pussilanimous chamberlains.

In that he was not wrong.

Its a long and complicated discussion, and some things are best left unsaid.

I {Heart} Nakba!

Happy 60th Israel. Keep it going!

One Palestine Complete by Tom Segev

A good one volume history of Jews and Arabs under the mandate

Drudge is reporting an ALERT: A New Message From Osama bin Laden Is on the Way

Gee, an endorsement from an out-of-state Democrat 'Super' for Obama? I don't think Osama would trust McCain.

re: #199 opnion

Thats interesting. One of the better books ever written about Irish resistance to Britain was "Trinity", by Leon Uris

I like all of Uris's books, but I always thought that Exodus and Trinity were kinda interchangeable. Just change the ethnicity of the characters.

re: #201 see bs

Happy Nakba day. May they have many more!

Me likes too.

re: #203 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Drudge is reporting an ALERT: A New Message From Osama bin Laden Is on the Way

Gee, an endorsement from an out-of-state Democrat 'Super' for Obama? I don't think Osama would trust McCain.

Another Weekend at Bernie's moment.

re: #200 Maine's Michael

Its a good deal more complicated than that.

The man recognized what it would take to fight the arab islamic world when the good guy's side was being led by pussilanimous chamberlains.

In that he was not wrong.

Its a long and complicated discussion, and some things are best left unsaid.

Everything is complicated. But the fact that Kahane may have analyzed some situations correctly does not erase the fact that he was an extremist.

re: #204 Nevergiveup

I like all of Uris's books, but I always thought that Exodus and Trinity were kinda interchangeable. Just change the ethnicity of the characters.

I read a good article by Uris. He saw lots of parallels, so I think that he would probably agree with you.

Letter from Kahane. Worth listening to.

re: #208 opnion

I read a good article by Uris. He saw lots of parallels, so I think that he would probably agree with you.

I usually measured how good a book was by how much I could read of it between Tel Aviv and New York. His books were fast reads. I loved them.

re: #164 loppyd

No bout adoubt it. There'll be plenty of Obamassiah squealing for the next few days. :)

Good boy, John.

+1 and a Gold Star for the day!

re: #206 VegasRick

LMAO.... Sure is. LOL

re: #209 ploome hineni

well obviously, the Nakba was ten times worse than the HOlocaust

/those rotten zionazis, and of course the neo cons

....btw, whenever I talk to someone about CAIR or the islamic encroachment on our secular institutions

people immediately ask if I am a JEw

/buzzsaw, as if my long island sizs schnozz wasn't a giveaway

lol

Bush did it , or global warming, or something.

re: #211 Nevergiveup

I usually measured how good a book was by how much I could read of it between Tel Aviv and New York. His books were fast reads. I loved them.

He could tell a story.

re: #207 Charles

Everything is complicated. But the fact that Kahane may have analyzed some situations correctly does not erase the fact that he was an extremist.

He analyzed the crux of the matter correctly.

While MSNBC lobs big wet ones for the Palestinians over the supposed Naqba (which actually occured years earlier when France and Britain carved up the Ottoman empire much to the chagrin of the Syrians who thought everything should belong to them - and not much has changed since), not much ink about how the Arabs rioted in 1929 in Hebron, killing all the Jews they could get their hands on.

Hebron has had a continual Jewish presence since antiquity.

And yet, the massacre survivors were ultimately displaced and never compensated for their losses.

Where's that in all this petulant wailing about the Palestinians, who continue murdering and plotting to murder Israelis to this very day.

re: #65 ted

Refugee Problem Persists:

Refugee problem? It's been 60 years! Go get a job already!

jre: #217 lawhawk

Funny how they don't mention the rape of Jewish women and girls during (original) land day riots when discussing the Land Day events recently.

re: #192 opnion

What if it was the only one in town? Moral Dilema.

I WOULD LEARN TO MAKE MY OWN BEER AND WINE

Another book is Joan Peters _From Time Immemorial_, about the region from roughly 1850 to 1948. I recommend that to my students as a background work.

It is sickening at the rewriting of history...

People should note this clue:

Hebron = Hebrew...

re: #218 nikis-knight

Refugee problem? It's been 60 years! Go get a job already!

Burma has a refugee problem.
The Palis should talk to people who PUT THEM IN THE CAMPS (hint it's not the Jooz).

re: #142 Occasional Reader

Dude,

I'd never, ever, put up a link that was not safe for work, here....

Get my a** smited by Stinky Beaumont.....

It looks like the Palis are already leapfrogging the issue of Israeli withdrawal from all land won in 1967 (which they assume they will get, sans les Juives) and focusing in on "right of return"

Wait for the Israeli leftists to give in.

re: #222 LittleRed1

Another book is Joan Peters _From Time Immemorial_, about the region from roughly 1850 to 1948. I recommend that to my students as a background work.

I read it and enjoyed it , but some of the numbers in it have been questioned. I think even Peters has comented on some possible inaccurate statisical analysis.

I was contemplating heading over to the UN to capture the 'al naqkba crapka' demonstrations tomorrow at lunch. If it rains, then.. maybe not. Certain to be a spectacle and well-covered by the MSM.

re: #207 Charles

Everything is complicated. But the fact that Kahane may have analyzed some situations correctly does not erase the fact that he was an extremist.

I agree with you Charles, but the concept of 'extremist' is in the eye of beholder.

Some people consider Pastor Hagee an extremist...

I do not.

Even Bill Donoghue of the Catholic League was pleasantly surprised at the written apology received...he said the subject matter is dropped.

re: #218 nikis-knight

They never heard of the concept of : "If you can't beat them, join them."

They would be a whole heck of a lot better off.

Look to the Americans as an example...

re: #223 psaturn

It is sickening at the rewriting of history...

People should note this clue:

Hebron = Hebrew...

Oddly enough, until a couple of years ago the PA had an archive of old photos of Israel available online, many of Jerusalem. Well over 1/3 of those photos (dated from about 1870 or so through the early 30s) contained Jews. Jews at the Wailing Wall. And there were also pictures of the Dome of the Rock. This "third most sacred site in all of islam" was literally deserted and in ruins in every single picture.

Re. # 227. True, there are questions there, but for an overall idea of sequence and rough population, and what the British were doing, I have yet to find a book that's as good for a "beginner," yet still has academic credentials.

"Beginner" being my students and interested newcomers to Middle-Eastern history.

re: #140 mama winger

>SNORT!

re: #231 ploome hineni

questioned by FInkelstein

he was the 'hit man' assigned to ravage the book

Questioned by others also. Not so much the premise as the actual numbers she used.

Here is the correct bit of McCain's comment about Obama's desire to talk to Ahmadinnerjacket -

"What does he want to talk about with ahmandinejab who called Israel a stinking corpse, who wants to wipe Israel off the map. . . ."

Fox has rewritten the quotation in their news article.

re: #234 LittleRed1

Re. # 227. True, there are questions there, but for an overall idea of sequence and rough population, and what the British were doing, I have yet to find a book that's as good for a "beginner," yet still has academic credentials.

Yes. i agree.

The Nakba articles are flooding the wires.

The number of results for "Nakba" at Google News is now up to 4,611.

re: #210 Maine's Michael

Letter from Kahane. Worth listening to.

sure is.

re: #232 galloping granny

Oddly enough, until a couple of years ago the PA had an archive of old photos of Israel available online, many of Jerusalem. Well over 1/3 of those photos (dated from about 1870 or so through the early 30s) contained Jews. Jews at the Wailing Wall. And there were also pictures of the Dome of the Rock. This "third most sacred site in all of islam" was literally deserted and in ruins in every single picture.

Here's an archive of historic photos of the Holy Land, 1831-1910

How about "The Rape of Palastine" by Ziff written in 1938.

It's not very well written. But it is very fascinating and informative. Really shows how the British messed things up in a major way for Israel.

The truth about the "Nakba":
[Link: www.commentarymagazine.com...]

re: #226 Alouette

When at first they can't get anywhere on settlements, the fallback position is right of return.

Both are integral part of the Palestinian terrorist/appeaser agitprop.

Again, the issue of settlements can be rebutted with the following:

Gaza was unilaterally handed to the Palestinians in 2005. Israel has not occupied it since - and yet the Palestinians have seen fit not to create a livable country or viable economy, but to launch a rocket war against Israel with the express purpose of killing and maiming as many Israelis as possible all while forcing still more concessions and withdrawals.

Israel handed civil administrative control to the PA over most of the West Bank, and what has the PA done? Used those areas for terror ops as well.

They are not partners in peace, but seek Israel in pieces.

I think Rabbi Kahanne understood the Arab hate esp the diff. between hamassholes and the more cleaver ones like abass. that being said does not mean you have to agree with his solution. there is a world of a difference between believing there is a peace process and saying it will fail and supporting Kach positions in total. When I was young i was involved with Kahanne j.d.l. mainly because of there demo's in suport of soviet Jews. When I met him I figured out he wanted to be King of Israel and did not support the idea of Israeli democracy. At that point I figured out there were other ways I could support Israel and that there were other activist org. and or Jewish groups supporting Israel.

If you were never in power and not likely to get this power you really never have to worry about what it takes to be a gov't.

re: #242 Alouette

Here's an archive of historic photos of the Holy Land, 1831-1910

Thanks - those are wonderful and mostly ones I had not seen before.

re: #240 Charles

The Nakba articles are flooding the wires.

The number of results for "Nakba" at Google News is now up to 4,611.

Thanks Charles for pointing out!

Elusive Victory by Trevor N. Dupuy.

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

Israeli War Machine by Ian V. Hogg.

[Link: www.antiqbook.com...]

Both books are long out of print, but well worth the reading if found.

Real military history books by real military historians.

REALLY
REAL,
R

We can all chill just a little. The MSM and the Left will never support Liberty or Israel. But, never in a thousand years, will the Islamofascist defeat Israel. [Link: www.serialno3817131.com...]

re: #233 savage_nation

hi kids

SAVAGE!

re: #246 yochanan

Can one really have a "Jewish State" and Democracy?

re: #250 rcris5

Every time I see Rachael Papo's photographs I know that we're not going away anytime soon.

PROPHET
OF
FIRE,
R

And leftwingers are suddenly touchy touchy about being called Nazis.

hmmmm.

re: #253 savage_nation

JCM! whassup? :)

Spending money like a drunken sailor.

Place orders on capital improvements to our labs. $200k and counting.

re: #257 savage_nation

wow! and I thought spending a thousand bucks on fuel was crazy!

$8000 for a high end voltage meter.
$30,000 for a temperature control system. We have to test from -40 to 125 C.
Adds up pretty quick.

re: #247 galloping granny

Thanks - those are wonderful and mostly ones I had not seen before.

nice pics many i haven't seen

re: #257 savage_nation

wow! and I thought spending a thousand bucks on fuel was crazy!

I set up an account with CFN, their diesel is a couple dimes less than the stations. My van takes $100 to fill up every two weeks.

$1000 lasts what 2-3 days for you?

So, according to MSNBC and the rest of the MSM, the 60th anniversary of Israel's independence is not an occasion to celebrate Israel's accomplishments, or remember the Holocaust, or mourn all the Israelis who have been lost to terrorism, or to thank Israel for their steadfast support of the United States.

Instead, it's a time to trot out Palestinian anti-Jewish propaganda, and to paint a liberal democracy with the best human-rights record in the region as a monster.

Evil is good.

Wrong is right.

Down is up.

You know, maybe that Big Brother guy isn't so bad....

ON APRIL 9, 1953, the Jordanian daily al-Urdun quoted a refugee, Yunes Ahmed Assad, formerly of Deir Yassin, as saying: "For the flight and fall of the other villages, it is our leaders who are responsible, because of the dissemination of rumours exaggerating Jewish crimes and describing them as atrocities in order to inflame the Arabs ... they instilled fear and terror into the hearts of the Arabs of Palestine until they fled, leaving their homes and property to the enemy."

[Link: www.eretzyisroel.org...]

CNN is also in full propaganda mode. They have a special nakba report featuring all the Palestinian propaganda talking points and tricks. Black balloons. Old rusty key held by an old man waiting to return to his stolen home. Siren (shamelessly ripped off Israel memorial days; nice touch that). Marching on wrecks of an old Arab village. You name it, all there.
Historical facts are "Israeli narrative" (the words of the reporter) now while Palestinian lies, exaggeration and inversion are presented without reservation. The reporter empathetically observes the tragedy of "millions still waiting to return after 60 years" as if it's the logical and realistic course of action. The anchor woman introduces the report using the word catastrophe neutrally without attribution (no "so-called", "what they claim.." etc.)