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Obama's Diplomatic Partner: 'The Hidden Imam Manages All the Affairs of the World'

Thu, May 15, 2008 at 6:49:19 pm PDT

Barack Obama wants to sit down and have tea and discuss the issues (using his amazing diplo-fu) with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. It’s all about hope! and change! and waffles!

I hope they have plenty of extra syrup if/when they meet, because here’s the mini-Hitler himself, explaining that “the Hidden Imam manages all the affairs of the world.”

Diplomacy is the only answer, obviously.

(Courtesy of MEMRI TV.)

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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad: Some people see only the external aspect of the enemy, and not its ulterior motives. The people who came to occupy Iraq – it seemed as if all they wanted was to take over the region and its oil. But when you peel off the outer layer, you see that their analysis is different. They have realized that something is about to happen in the region. The hand of God is about to emerge and eradicate the injustice in the world. They discuss this among themselves. Look how much attention they have given it. Some people believe the Hidden Imam is living his life somewhere, without any concern for the problems of humanity. If this were the case, there would be no existence at all. Everything would be in chaos. The Hidden Imam manages all the affairs of the world.

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1 lawhawk  Thu, May 15, 2008 6:50:53pm

That's 57 flavors of craziness right there. No wonder Obama wants to meet up.

2 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 6:50:57pm

I fear this man.

3 Mich-again  Thu, May 15, 2008 6:51:47pm
The Hidden Imam manages all the affairs of the world.

Really? Well the Hidden Imam is F-ing up bigtime everywhere. Where is this idiot's hidey hole? Someone, quick. drop a few grenades down in it.

4 gibsonz  Thu, May 15, 2008 6:52:06pm

The hidden Imam...I would be glad if I could find my hidden bottle,I can`t remeber where I hid it.

5 Dianna  Thu, May 15, 2008 6:52:20pm

Oh, my.

What would the reaction be if some British Prime Minister talked about the return of Arthur from where he sleeps? Or some European leader spoke confidently of Charlemagne's waking?

He's nuts.

6 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 6:52:22pm

re: #3 Mich-again

Really? Well the Hidden Imam is F-ing up bigtime everywhere. Where is this idiot's hidey hole? Someone, quick. drop a few grenades down in it.

Isn't he in a well somewhere?

7 The Other Les  Thu, May 15, 2008 6:52:50pm
The hand of God is about to emerge and eradicate the injustice in the world.


Really?

And he's not worried?

8 mama winger  Thu, May 15, 2008 6:53:03pm
The hand of God is about to emerge and eradicate the injustice in the world.

- Lil Hitler


And some think we are not in a religious war.

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

9 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, May 15, 2008 6:53:19pm

OT
Anybody else get the email from the Mcain campaign about what he hopes to accomplish in his first term? On the surface it wasn't bad, but there are some mildly creepy things in it.

10 The Other Les  Thu, May 15, 2008 6:54:14pm
The hand of God is about to emerge and eradicate the injustice in the world.


Not if the peace movement has anything to say about it.

11 Dianna  Thu, May 15, 2008 6:54:17pm

re: #6 MandyManners

Evidently. Or something.

I sometimes get confused as to who's waiting for whom to emerge from where.

There lies his crown in waters deep
Till Durin wakes again from sleep.

12 VegasRick  Thu, May 15, 2008 6:54:55pm

re: #9 Mars Needs Neocons

OT
Anybody else get the email from the Mcain campaign about what he hopes to accomplish in his first term? On the surface it wasn't bad, but there are some mildly creepy things in it.

Somebody didn't get the memo!

13 Mich-again  Thu, May 15, 2008 6:55:31pm

re: #6 MandyManners

Isn't he in a well somewhere?

I think the Dinner Jacket is getting his legends mixed up. Saddam Hussein was hiding in a hole, Osama bin Laden was hiding in a cave. The Hidden Imam is hiding under the Dinner Jackets bed.

14 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 15, 2008 6:55:59pm

He seems nice.

15 Grok the Fullness  Thu, May 15, 2008 6:56:28pm

What he meant was "his mom manages all the affairs of the world"

16 Alouette  Thu, May 15, 2008 6:56:35pm

re: #13 Mich-again

I think the Dinner Jacket is getting his legends mixed up. Saddam Hussein was hiding in a hole, Osama bin Laden was hiding in a cave. The Hidden Imam is hiding under the Dinner Jackets bed.

No, he won't come out of the closet!

17 TallTexan  Thu, May 15, 2008 6:56:40pm

So the Hidden Imam is responsible for California marriage and my hay fever?

18 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 6:56:54pm

re: #11 Dianna

Evidently. Or something.

I sometimes get confused as to who's waiting for whom to emerge from where.

Isn't this just something else Mo ripped off and perverted to his own tastes?!

19 The Other Les  Thu, May 15, 2008 6:57:22pm

re: #16 Alouette

No, he won't come out of the closet!

He's a Scientologist?

20 Dianna  Thu, May 15, 2008 6:57:25pm

re: #17 TallTexan

If it makes you feel better, sure! I always like to have someone to blame.

21 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Thu, May 15, 2008 6:57:35pm

to quote Max Bialastok after finding his lead actor for his play: "Here's our Hitler."

Chances of a major war breaking out before the end of the year 0%.

22 Mich-again  Thu, May 15, 2008 6:57:42pm

re: #16 Alouette

No, he won't come out of the closet!

Better yet. The Hidden Imam is still in the closet!

23 The Other Les  Thu, May 15, 2008 6:57:45pm

re: #17 TallTexan

So the Hidden Imam is responsible for California marriage and my hay fever?

Yes.

24 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, May 15, 2008 6:57:47pm

re: #11 Dianna

Evidently. Or something.

I sometimes get confused as to who's waiting for whom to emerge from where.

"In his house at Sunken R'lyeh dread Cthulhu waits dreaming."


There answered that for ya.

25 nyc redneck  Thu, May 15, 2008 6:57:49pm

re: #2 MandyManners

I fear this man.

i agree. he's out of control.
assh*les like this who are fueled by their irrational beliefs are dangerous. but they are predictable. in fact they tells us everything we need to know abt. their agenda, if we just listen.
now is the time.

26 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 6:57:49pm

re: #13 Mich-again

I think the Dinner Jacket is getting his legends mixed up. Saddam Hussein was hiding in a hole, Osama bin Laden was hiding in a cave. The Hidden Imam is hiding under the Dinner Jackets bed.

Along with the dust bunnies.

27 Macker  Thu, May 15, 2008 6:57:59pm

re: #8 mama winger

- Lil Hitler


And some think we are not in a religious war.

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Two Little Hitlers will fight it out until
One Little Hitler does the other one's will

28 Fenway_Nation  Thu, May 15, 2008 6:58:27pm

And here I was thinking the Jews controlled all the world's affairs

/I mean....there's this book called 'The Protocols of the Elderly Something'

29 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, May 15, 2008 6:58:36pm

re: #12 VegasRick

Somebody didn't get the memo!

Oh I go the memo a long time ago. Right around McCain/Feingold.

/

30 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 6:58:40pm

re: #21 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

to quote Max Bialastok after finding his lead actor for his play: "Here's our Hitler."

Chances of a major war breaking out before the end of the year 0%.

That's what I'm thinking. Will Iran have its nuke by then?

31 Mich-again  Thu, May 15, 2008 6:58:44pm

If the Hidden Imam is on the Dinner Jacket's side, why does Iran need nukes?

32 paxnhymn  Thu, May 15, 2008 6:58:56pm

re: #8 mama winger

- Lil Hitler


And some think we are not in a religious war.

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

that's what I keep saying! it's not radical is-slum! Is-slum is radical, and all of it is the antithesis of peace, civility, prosperity and the progression of humankind.

33 mama winger  Thu, May 15, 2008 6:58:59pm

Most Christians also believe that at the end of the ages, a battle will be fought, justice will be served, and things will be set right.

These guys are on the opposite side of that battle, and they follow a different General.

34 mikeinmd  Thu, May 15, 2008 6:59:08pm
The hand of God Obama is about to emerge and eradicate the injustice in the world.

MSNBC quote with a tingle.

35 Dianna  Thu, May 15, 2008 6:59:11pm

re: #18 MandyManners

No, I think that it's a common folklore element or motif. Arthur, Charlemagne and a good many other folk heroes and legendary figures are sleeping or hidden somewhere, ready to emerge when things become desperate.

This we can't blame on Mo. He was long dead before this story came up.

36 Sean  Thu, May 15, 2008 6:59:24pm

Can he help me with some lotto numbers?

You read where even the clerics are tired of DinnerJacket's madhi crap?

37 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 15, 2008 6:59:32pm

He does exhibit all the classic signs of rampant Hitler Disease. I wonder if ovens are part of the master plan, or just one giant microwave experiment in the sky.

38 Opinionated  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:00:05pm
'The Hidden Imam Manages All the Affairs of the World'

So it's official.

The Hidden Iman is a Jew and a member of the Elders of Zion.

Because everyone knows the Elders control the World.

39 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:00:16pm

re: #25 nyc redneck

i agree. he's out of control.
assh*les like this who are fueled by their irrational beliefs are dangerous. but they are predictable. in fact they tells us everything we need to know abt. their agenda, if we just listen.
now is the time.

His beliefs are not irrational in his world.

40 The Other Les  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:00:20pm

re: #24 Mars Needs Neocons

"In his house at Sunken R'lyeh dread Cthulhu waits dreaming."


There answered that for ya.

And don't try to wake him up.

[Link: www.macguff.fr...]

41 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:00:36pm

re: #31 Mich-again

If the Hidden Imam is on the Dinner Jacket's side, why does Iran need nukes?

Why does God need a starship?

42 StarsandStripesForever  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:00:37pm

"Diplo-fu" - Charles.

I like it. You should make it another LGF dictinonary entry.

On topic, Obama is extraordinarily dangerous for wanting to meet with mini-Hitler. Obama is not qualified to be a Senator, let alone the President.

43 Dianna  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:00:42pm

re: #24 Mars Needs Neocons

Oooh, a Lovecraft reference! This evening is getting better and better!

And none of it's my fault!

44 Karridine  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:00:51pm
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Ahmadinejad KNOWS that The Hidden Imam came OUT of 'hiding' May 23, 1844 in Persia/Iran, and brought to a close the previous 6,000 years of waiting... even though Muslim imams and mullahs ordered the incarceration, torture and death-by-firing squad of that previously 'hidden' imam...

And Ahmadinejad recently (5 days ago) ordered the summary seizure and imprisonment of the Followers of the Glory of God, promised BY the 'Hidden Imam', Who was with humankind from 1853 to 1892...

ALSO under the heel of Muslim imams and the caliphate...

But Ahmadinejad pretends He hasn't come yet, so that Ahmadinejad can continue to manipulate Muslim masses...

45 mama winger  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:00:57pm

re: #39 MandyManners

His beliefs are not irrational in his world.

Exazctly. He is just being an observant muslim.

46 joncelli  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:00:58pm

If only the hidden imam would embrace his true self, he and Ahmadinnerjacket could declare their love for one another; after all, he manages all affairs! (Wink wink, nudge nudge.)

47 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:01:07pm

re: #35 Dianna

No, I think that it's a common folklore element or motif. Arthur, Charlemagne and a good many other folk heroes and legendary figures are sleeping or hidden somewhere, ready to emerge when things become desperate.

This we can't blame on Mo. He was long dead before this story came up.

Who thought of it first?

48 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:01:54pm

Actually I discussed the idea of the Islamic beliefs playing counterpoint to Revelations a long time ago. It's like the flip side of scripture. And I'm not even religious.

49 J.S.  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:02:17pm

re: #2 MandyManners

MandyManners, don't you remember "There's nothing to fear, accept fear itself?"

50 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:02:54pm
51 nyc redneck  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:02:58pm

re: #31 Mich-again

If the Hidden Imam is on the Dinner Jacket's side, why does Iran need nukes?

maybe obama will run that passed him. and then of course fold to appease him if he doesn't go for it.

52 LoFlyer  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:03:27pm

When was the last time the Iranian government or Mahmoud Ahmadinejad published anything substantuated by fact? At Princeton University(TM) he announced there were no gays in Iran, but three weeks later even our liberal media was publishing stories and pictures of six Iranian homosexuals hanged and swaying in the wind for all to see. What really tics me off is western domacracy giving Iran every break possible and hammering the US over our justifiable war on terror....

53 nyc redneck  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:03:46pm

re: #39 MandyManners

His beliefs are not irrational in his world.

well they are certainly irrational in ours and that's what fcking counts to me.

54 mikeinmd  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:03:49pm

re: #38 Opinionated

So it's official.

The Hidden Iman is a Jew and a member of the Elders of Zion.

Because everyone knows the Elders control the World.

AHH, Yes ! Expect a bonus in your check this month.

55 hayseed  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:03:55pm

dear Dinner Jacket....some thing is gonna happen alright. The G-d of Israel is comming to give you one big slap down.sucks to be you

56 Syrah  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:03:59pm

re: #14 Killgore Trout

He seems nice.

He should be invited to speak at our universities.

/

57 Sean  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:04:00pm

re: #48 Mars Needs Neocons

Yup. Scary ain't it?

58 Mahmoud Ahmadinejad  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:04:17pm

Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice! Beetlejuice!

59 Opinionated  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:04:40pm

re: #50 buzzsawmonkey

Damn, you beat me to it!

I had help from the hidden Iman.

60 jamgarr  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:05:05pm

Mumbo friggin' Jumbo

61 mama winger  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:05:13pm

re: #59 Opinionated

I had help from the hidden Iman.

Bwahahaha !

62 republic  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:05:22pm

#$%& Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

How very sad.

Thanks Ojoe!

63 Grok the Fullness  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:05:23pm

Hussein Obama: " Please make me look good"
Amahdinejad: " Bend over"

64 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:05:36pm

re: #26 MandyManners

Along with the dust bunnies.

Not dust bunnies, MM. In the Navy we called them ghost turds.

65 Dianna  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:05:44pm

re: #47 MandyManners

I don't know. I can think of a lot of examples and similar ideas; Orpheus legends tended that way, Adonis, other dying and resurrected figures from early religions, folk tales from all over the world. But I never really studied folklore, and - though I've seen many references to Folklore Motif #-whatever, I can't this very instant lay my hand on who compiled it.

I'm sure someone here can.

66 mama winger  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:06:02pm

Does anyone know what the word 'mahdi' translates to?

67 republic  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:06:38pm

re: #63 Grok the Fullness

Hussein Obama: " Please make me look good"
Amahdinejad: " Bend over"

No, he'd tell Hussein Obama to go to his Muslim roots, change the USA to a Muslim nation, to which, Obama would comply.

68 The Other Les  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:06:38pm

re: #66 mama winger

Does anyone know what the word 'mahdi' translates to?

Raving lunatic.

69 Sean  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:07:08pm

Is the Mahdi a part of the Bilderburger/Haliburton/NewWorldOrder/Sears-Roebuc k Conpiracy to rule the world?

70 Syrah  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:07:16pm

re: #33 mama winger

Most Christians also believe that at the end of the ages, a battle will be fought, justice will be served, and things will be set right.

These guys are on the opposite side of that battle, and they follow a different General.

Not just a different general, but the "other" general.

71 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:07:21pm

re: #31 Mich-again

If the Hidden Imam is on the Dinner Jacket's side, why does Iran need nukes?

You're thinking wayyyy to much! : )

72 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:07:23pm
73 Dianna  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:07:54pm

re: #69 Sean

Ask Jim Marrs.

74 lawhawk  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:07:54pm

It's also hilarious that Ahmadinejad is talking about the US involvement in Iraq, when his country is going gangbusters to try and influence the outcome there. Iran wouldn't mind taking over Iraq's oil. Heck, wars have started over such things.

And the rest of the region is concerned about this hand of god stuff, especially coming from people who see auras and lights and stuff. Saudi Arabia is pushing its influence around, because they're scared that Iran's going to go nuclear on them. Forget the Israel stuff - the Saudis know that the first bomb to go off has a 50/50 chance of taking out the Saudis.

This is a Shi'ite revenge myth, and Ahmadinejad wants to make it reality in the worst way (in every sense of that phrase).

75 Syrah  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:08:09pm

re: #66 mama winger

Does anyone know what the word 'mahdi' translates to?

666

76 joncelli  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:08:16pm

re: #68 The Other Les


Wiki says it means "guided one."

77 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:08:24pm
78 The Other Les  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:08:36pm

re: #72 buzzsawmonkey

Trying to mahdi the waters?

It is translated in the movie "Khartoum" as "the expected one," but who knows whether that is accurate.

But he didn't have a neat red outfit.

79 gop_patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:08:56pm

re: #66 mama winger

Does anyone know what the word 'mahdi' translates to?

From the American Heritage Dictionary:

Mah·di (mä'd%u0113)

[Arabic mahd%u012B, rightly guided one, Mahdi passive participle of had%u0101, to lead.]
noun: pl., -dis.
Islam

1. The messiah who, it is believed, will appear at the world's end and establish a reign of peace and righteousness.
2. A leader who assumes the role of a messiah.

derivatives

Mah'dism
noun
Mah'dist
noun

80 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:08:57pm

re: #45 mama winger

Exazctly. He is just being an observant muslim.

Kinda' like "opposite day."

81 Ma Sands  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:09:04pm

re: #75 Syrah

666

Link? :)

82 mama winger  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:09:27pm

re: #75 Syrah

666

ahhhh.

could very well be.

83 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:09:38pm
84 yochanan  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:09:55pm

re: #66 mama winger

Does anyone know what the word 'mahdi' translates to?

DUMB F''' DOWN IN A DAMP HOLE.

85 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:09:59pm

re: #78 The Other Les

Like This One?

86 Mahmoud Ahmadinejad  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:10:20pm

re: #66 mama winger

Does anyone know what the word 'mahdi' translates to?

'Waffle".

87 gop_patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:10:21pm

re: #79 gop_patriot

Linky, sorry

88 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:10:33pm

re: #66 mama winger

Does anyone know what the word 'mahdi' translates to?

/Crazy.

89 mama winger  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:10:33pm

re: #79 gop_patriot

Thank you - so they did 'borrow' another concept from Judaism and Christianity. A messiah who would deliver them.

Thieves.

90 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:10:36pm

re: #49 J.S.

Well, I fear ShortShit.

91 wolfie  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:10:39pm

Hiding in a well.
Water or oil?

92 Grok the Fullness  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:11:22pm

re: #69 Sean

I believe it's part of the Bushitler/McChimpy/Masonic/Illuminati/Google conspiracy

93 Syrah  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:11:26pm

re: #81 Ma Sands

Link? :)

Link

94 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:11:37pm

re: #53 nyc redneck

well they are certainly irrational in ours and that's what fcking counts to me.

They're rational in our world 'cause he plans to hurt us.

95 new2thezoo  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:11:49pm

I thought the Madhi was still in the abyss... I mean the well.

96 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:12:01pm

re: #93 Syrah

Very nice. I'll have to read it tomorrow.

97 Intrepid  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:12:06pm

Dang, we're gonna have to stand up to Iran pretty soon. With the tripe coming from the Dinner Jacket, and if they keep sending arms into Iraq, how can we avoid it?

98 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:12:19pm

re: #64 Bob in Breckenridge

Not dust bunnies, MM. In the Navy we called them ghost turds.

Do they have either in Iran?

99 mama winger  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:12:25pm

re: #93 Syrah

Link

thanks for the link! I've bookmarked it to read later. I appreciate it.

100 gop_patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:12:49pm

re: #90 MandyManners

Well, I fear ShortShit.

I bet you could take him.

/If I helped, he'd experience a really scary, Southern style can of whoop-ass opening up on him that he'd not soon forget. Send him scampering down a freaking well.

101 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:12:57pm

re: #66 mama winger

Does anyone know what the word 'mahdi' translates to?

Pure evil?

102 mama winger  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:13:08pm

re: #95 new2thezoo

I thought the Madhi was still in the abyss...

that's where he's headed

103 J.S.  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:13:31pm

re: #66 mama winger

it means "a proper guide" from a root (mada) and suggests that the followers of a mahdi are "properly guided."

104 Sean  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:13:32pm

re: #97 Intrepid

Why start now? We coulda fixed it in 1979! Thanks Jimmah!

105 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:13:43pm

re: #98 MandyManners

Do they have either in Iran?

I'd rather not know.

106 gman  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:14:05pm

From American Thinker:

At the end of his speech at the United Nations in the fall of 2005, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad made an invocation to Allah to bring about the speedy reappearance of the Hidden Imam.
The media and, sad to say, many academic persons were at a loss to explain this eschatological reference. The situation was complicated by later interviews in which Ahmadinejad reported that many of his co—religionists claimed that while he was making those remarks, they could see about him an aura of light. He recalled that he too was aware of a celestial light at that time. He also pointed to the fact that the 'leaders of the world' were watching him at that time with a fixed gaze, apparently unable to look away.

I think BO has been blinded by Dinner Jacket's celestial light.

107 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:14:58pm
108 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:15:01pm
109 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:15:07pm

re: #76 joncelli

Wiki says it means "guided one."

An ICBM?

110 mikeinmd  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:15:13pm

Diplomacy is the only answer, obviously.

I've got this nagging suspicion if Obama ever sat across from Achmadinejihad, his first sentence would be :

What do you want?

I want the guy who asks :

What the Fuck's your problem ?

I hope I see that guy soon.

111 The Other Les  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:15:17pm

re: #85 Mars Needs Neocons

Like This One?

More like this.

[Link: www.toadking.com...]

112 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:15:39pm

re: #33 mama winger

If I'm not mistaken when JC (aka Issa) returns in the Islamic version he joins the dark side.

113 Alouette  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:15:47pm

re: #106 gman

From American Thinker:

I think BO has been blinded by Dinner Jacket's celestial light.

Who was standing behind him with a lighter after he ate that extra-spicy falafel?

114 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:16:06pm

re: #106 gman

Oh, but that's ok. The american press will remind us that Ahmmadinthehead is a snappy dresser with a great sense of humor and all will be well again. Maybe he and "clean and articulate" could get together for tea.

115 Ma Sands  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:16:18pm

re: #93 Syrah

That's a lot to look through, but thank you :) ......I do think the idea of the mahdi fits very well with the idea of that number.....'specially after reading that well-put-together series of "Left Behind"......I guess I am always hoping to come upon some concrete picture of the actual number.....

116 Karridine  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:16:27pm

re: #66 mama winger

"The Trustworthy One"

/I'll try and source this for you

117 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:16:39pm
118 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:16:44pm

re: #100 gop_patriot

I bet you could take him.

/If I helped, he'd experience a really scary, Southern style can of whoop-ass opening up on him that he'd not soon forget. Send him scampering down a freaking well.

A 55-gallon drum of whoop-ass!

119 LEGION  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:16:51pm

Yawn!

120 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:16:54pm

re: #111 The Other Les

Quite similar.

121 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:16:58pm

re: #64 Bob in Breckenridge

Not dust bunnies, MM. In the Navy we called them ghost turds.


I find them in violins and cellos all the time. We call them Tone Balls.

122 Intrepid  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:17:05pm

re: #104 Sean

Why start now? We coulda fixed it in 1979! Thanks Jimmah!

Too true. But sadly, testicular fortitude was not present during that presidential stint. And he's left us with a mess. And he keeps the mess stirred up.

Jimmy Carter - retire yourself to your Georgia farm and STFU!

123 gop_patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:17:10pm

re: #106 gman

From American Thinker:

I think BO has been blinded by Dinner Jacket's celestial light.

I think maybe he borrowed it.

124 nyc redneck  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:17:12pm

re: #94 MandyManners

They're rational in our world 'cause he plans to hurt us.

lol somehow i think we're on the same page here. i think they are fundamentally nuts and irrational and predictable because i believe what they say and am ready to take them at their word and not down play it. so i agree dinnerjacket's irrationality is serious and we need to be rational and accept that he is a dangerous asshat.

125 mama winger  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:17:38pm

re: #112 Killgore Trout

If I'm not mistaken when JC (aka Issa) returns in the Islamic version he joins the dark side.

Yeah. that's gonna happen

this stuff makes me sick. Lil Hitler has got to be neutered.

126 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:17:53pm

re: #108 song_and_dance_man


Fear this!

Napolean 5'2"

Hitler 5'7"

Attila 4'6"

Stalin 5'4"

Khrushchev 5'3"

Ahmadinejad 5'0"

127 mama winger  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:17:54pm

re: #116 Karridine

"The Trustworthy One"

/I'll try and source this for you

Thank you Karridine. :)

128 Karridine  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:17:58pm

"Rightly-Guided One"... Mama Winger, that'll do...

129 Killian Bundy  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:18:39pm

Only 99 days until the annual freak out.

/the Great Pumpkin never shows up though

130 gop_patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:18:40pm

re: #118 MandyManners

A 55-gallon drum of whoop-ass!

LOL! That's a big'un! :)

131 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:18:41pm

re: #107 ploome hineni

I fear how the west is reacting to militant islam

that is our danger

Sometimes I realize that all I can do is spread the word about Islam, raise The Kid and take care of myself.

132 mama winger  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:18:42pm

re: #124 nyc redneck

i believe what they say and am ready to take them at their word and not down play it.

Can you please run for President on the Democratic ticket?

133 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:18:54pm

re: #105 Bob in Breckenridge

I'd rather not know.

The one good thing that came from the failed hostage rescue attempt is that it sowed the seed that ultimately resulted in the combined joint task force, one of the most important military advances ever conceived.

The lines between services became blurred, and the goal was success for the country, not for the branch or particular unit. It greatly enhanced cooperation and understanding among the various armed forces, and created a kind of kinship and comraderie that had never existed before.

134 Sean  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:19:14pm

re: #122 Intrepid

He's a real PITA. I wish Azrael would come for him soon!

135 mama winger  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:19:22pm

re: #128 Karridine

"Rightly-Guided One"... Mama Winger, that'll do...

Yes - I saw on one of the links that definition too. Thank you!

136 new2thezoo  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:19:36pm

re: #102 mama winger

I find it extremely interesting that their eschatology is the evil mirror image of the Christian eschatology on the end times. Mo, being the tool of the evil one, borrowed a lot of Jewish writings and put his twisted spin on them. In looking at this from that angle it makes a lot of sense in what he is saying.

137 gman  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:19:49pm

re: #114 Mars Needs Neocons

Oh, but that's ok. The american press will remind us that Ahmmadinthehead is a snappy dresser with a great sense of humor and all will be well again. Maybe he and "clean and articulate" could get together for tea.

You're right. Only the MSM could make a turd look like this.

138 strandedsf  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:19:52pm

That is some crazy shit right there.

139 nyc redneck  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:20:03pm

re: #126 MandyManners

Napolean 5'2"

Hitler 5'7"

Attila 4'6"

Stalin 5'4"

Khrushchev 5'3"

Ahmadinejad 5'0"

how tall was vlad the impaler?

140 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:20:04pm

re: #133 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Sort of. Old rivalries die hard. At least that was still the case in the late 80's early '90s

141 mama winger  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:20:17pm

re: #119 LEGION

Yawn!

Are we keeping you up ? :)

142 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:20:22pm

re: #106 gman

From American Thinker:


I think BO has been blinded by Dinner Jacket's celestial light.

ShortShit is utterly delusional.

143 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:20:51pm

re: #3 Mich-again

Really? Well the Hidden Imam is F-ing up bigtime everywhere. Where is this idiot's hidey hole? Someone, quick. drop a few grenades down in it.

Block it up with lard and cover with pigskin.

144 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:21:15pm

re: #143 Kosh's Shadow

Check under the black rock.

145 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:21:16pm

re: #124 nyc redneck

lol somehow i think we're on the same page here. i think they are fundamentally nuts and irrational and predictable because i believe what they say and am ready to take them at their word and not down play it. so i agree dinnerjacket's irrationality is serious and we need to be rational and accept that he is a dangerous asshat.

Yes, we are in agreement.

146 Sean  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:21:24pm

Whoa Mandy!

Napoleon was sane. He created good civil government. He just wanted to conquer. I never have bought into Napoleon as evil.

147 Intrepid  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:21:29pm

re: #126 MandyManners

Napolean 5'2"

Hitler 5'7"

Attila 4'6"

Stalin 5'4"

Khrushchev 5'3"

Ahmadinejad 5'0"

Holy Crap! Short folks just love being dictators/murderous thugs!

I resent that, since I'm short (5'3"). I don't want to rule anybody's world.

148 mama winger  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:21:34pm

re: #136 new2thezoo

I find it extremely interesting that their eschatology is the evil mirror image of the Christian eschatology on the end times. Mo, being the tool of the evil one, borrowed a lot of Jewish writings and put his twisted spin on them. In looking at this from that angle it makes a lot of sense in what he is saying.

Yes it does. And they are not playing around. The problem is, whether people believe this stuff or not, THEY believe it. And they intend to do something about it.

149 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:22:00pm

re: #130 gop_patriot

LOL! That's a big'un! :)

When we're done kicking his scrawny ass, we'll stuff him in the barrel and take it to the hazmat dump.

150 gop_patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:22:02pm

re: #126 MandyManners

I had no idea that all those guys were that short. Wow.

151 mama winger  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:22:18pm

re: #147 Intrepid


I resent that, since I'm short (5'3"). I don't want to rule anybody's world.

I'm 5' 2, and I want to be Queen.

152 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:22:25pm

re: #143 Kosh's Shadow

Caught all your B-5 refs the other night, couldn't reply was on my new treo 700wx and couldn't keep up with the thread worth a damn.

153 bcgirl  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:22:30pm

hahahaah now that is funny! which is it dinnerjjacket the hiddem imman or the evil jooooooooooooooossssssssss

re: #28 Fenway_Nation

And here I was thinking the Jews controlled all the world's affairs

/I mean....there's this book called 'The Protocols of the Elderly Something'

154 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:22:33pm
155 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:22:39pm

re: #139 nyc redneck

how tall was vlad the impaler?

I have no idea.

156 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:22:47pm
157 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:23:11pm

re: #146 Sean

Whoa Mandy!

Napoleon was sane. He created good civil government. He just wanted to conquer. I never have bought into Napoleon as evil.

I didn't post the link!

158 Syrah  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:23:25pm

re: #115 Ma Sands

That's a lot to look through, but thank you :) ......I do think the idea of the mahdi fits very well with the idea of that number.....'specially after reading that well-put-together series of "Left Behind"......I guess I am always hoping to come upon some concrete picture of the actual number.....

I think that the number thing is something that will be made more clear at a later time.

There are several actors. The antichrist and teh false prophet.

In Islam Jesus (Issa) is thought to be only a prophet, a prophet who will return and validate the Mahdi.

159 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:23:31pm
160 mama winger  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:23:32pm

re: #156 savage_nation

I'll have to say, the wee maniac is a hell of a dancer

LOL!

161 Karridine  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:23:35pm

re: #135 mama winger

Ahmadinnerjacket, however, has NO INTENTIONS of EVER allowing himself to be Rightly-Guided! The equality of men & women, the oneness of humankind (no divine race of uber-menschen) and the requirement for rational personal responsibility are some of the Rightly Guided Guidelines given to humankind AND Ahmadinner, but he despises these and actively engages in pogroms against those who choose to follow that Right Guidance!

162 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:23:44pm

re: #147 Intrepid

Holy Crap! Short folks just love being dictators/murderous thugs!

I resent that, since I'm short (5'3"). I don't want to rule anybody's world.

I'd love to be Empress for a few days.

163 mama winger  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:23:49pm

re: #159 song_and_dance_man

There might be an opening in California soon.

Cool.

Would I have to live there?

164 gop_patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:23:57pm

re: #149 MandyManners

When we're done kicking his scrawny ass, we'll stuff him in the barrel and take it to the hazmat dump.

I'll get the truck.

165 hayseed  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:24:08pm

re: #112 Killgore Trout

wrong

166 The Other Les  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:24:09pm

re: #154 song_and_dance_man

Putin 5'5"

The Other Les: 5'9"

167 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:24:30pm

re: #150 gop_patriot

I had no idea that all those guys were that short. Wow.

It seems to have done something to their egos.

168 mama winger  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:24:43pm

re: #161 Karridine

Yes, I think his heart is set on doing evil, and calling it good. No right guidance involved.

169 lobo91  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:24:43pm

re: #124 nyc redneck

i think they are fundamentally nuts and irrational

Wrong. They are absolutely rational, because they sincerely believe the crap they spout.

170 Sean  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:24:51pm

re: #157 MandyManners

Oh. Forgive me. I really think Napoleon gets a bad rap. I don't think atrocities are on his resume.

171 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:24:59pm

re: #154 song_and_dance_man

Putin 5'5"

Really?

172 gop_patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:25:16pm

re: #156 savage_nation

I'll have to say, the wee maniac is a hell of a dancer

ROFL! That helium voice, perfect! HAHA!

173 gman  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:25:27pm

re: #147 Intrepid

Holy Crap! Short folks just love being dictators/murderous thugs!

I resent that, since I'm short (5'3"). I don't want to rule anybody's world.

Shortshit is getting into Billy Barty territory:

The Little People of America (LPA) defines dwarfism as a medical or genetic condition that usually results in an adult height of 4'10" (147 cm) or shorter.[1]

174 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:25:31pm

re: #156 savage_nation

I second that

175 wolfie  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:25:47pm

re: #156 savage_nation

I'll have to say, the wee maniac is a hell of a dancer

hahahahahahahahaha ! :D

176 nyc redneck  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:25:49pm

re: #132 mama winger

Can you please run for President on the Democratic ticket?

lol {mama winger} i'm a committed conservative. i can't go back now.
you should run tho. well, maybe it's not possible for you either? ;D

177 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:25:50pm

re: #164 gop_patriot

I'll get the truck.

Shotgun!

178 Intrepid  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:26:01pm

re: #151 mama winger

I'm 5' 2, and I want to be Queen.

I'd vote for you! Wait, Queens rule by lineage and decree....

Anyway, I'd vote you in!

MAMA WINGER FOR QUEEN!

179 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:26:03pm
180 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:26:03pm
181 brainwizard73  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:26:11pm

First off, I thought everything in the world was controled by George Bush, Dick Cheney, two guys from the janitor's closet at the Pentagon, the "D-E-F" page of the D.C. Madam's black book and a small talking toad that makes people crazy when you lick it. Who knew the world was being run by a hidden imam?

Secondly,

"Question for the Imam...David Gregory, NBC News: Sir, if you are in fact running the world and have for some time now, why haven't you been successful in destroying Israel?"

"Can't I just eat my waffle?"

182 mama winger  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:26:23pm

re: #176 nyc redneck

lol {mama winger} i'm a committed conservative. i can't go back now.
you should run tho. well, maybe it's not possible for you either? ;D

Oh gosh I'd rather stick myself in the eardrum with a knitting needle.

183 brainwizard73  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:26:48pm

re: #150 gop_patriot

I had no idea that all those guys were that short. Wow.

Someone check Obama for extensions!

184 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:26:53pm
185 mama winger  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:27:16pm

re: #180 savage_nation

Pretty thrilling, isn't it?

OMG ! hahaha!

186 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:28:15pm
187 HelloDare  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:28:19pm

re: #1 lawhawk

Maybe Barack is the Hidden Imam. That's why Barry wants to talk to Mahmoud.

188 Killian Bundy  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:28:42pm

Endangered, after doubling their population in the last thirty years? They're laughing at you!

/and, before too long, you'll be able to marry them in California

189 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:28:45pm
190 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:28:51pm

re: #183 brainwizard73

Someone check Obama for extensions!

David Manning says he's a "long-legged pimp."

191 mama winger  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:29:05pm

re: #184 ploome hineni

the hidden immam, the mahdi

From your link:

Contemporary Iranian politics can in no way be divorced from the fundamental religious tenets of Shi'a Islam.

192 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:29:31pm
193 nyc redneck  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:29:34pm

re: #169 lobo91

Wrong. They are absolutely rational, because they sincerely believe the crap they spout.

a lot of psychopaths believe sincerely the rubbish they spout.

194 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:29:35pm

re: #180 savage_nation

There really is nothing else to say.

195 Sean  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:30:07pm

re: #187 HelloDare

Maybe Barack is the Hidden Imam. That's why Barry wants to talk to Mahmoud.

What BHO is a closet moslem? YOU RACIST! REPENT! PAY DHIMMI TAX!

196 mama winger  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:30:13pm

re: #193 nyc redneck

a lot of psychopaths believe sincerely the rubbish they spout.

This psychopath is developing nuclear weapons. yikes.

197 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:30:33pm

re: #181 brainwizard73

You figured it out

198 nyc redneck  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:30:53pm

re: #187 HelloDare

Maybe Barack is the Hidden Imam. That's why Barry wants to talk to Mahmoud.

and that's why they want to talk to him.
whoa, now that's scary.

199 brainwizard73  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:31:11pm

re: #190 MandyManners

David Manning says he's a "long-legged pimp."

I shudder to think of what his stable might look like. No, really, I am...right now.

200 Ma Sands  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:31:21pm

re: #158 Syrah

Yes.

201 J.S.  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:32:11pm

re: #90 MandyManners

I don't know -- do you really want to fear a person? After all, it's a person -- and what is the common fate of all people? He or she dies. Do you see where this expression of fear of a person might lead? (it's to think of this person as if they were somehow "g-dlike" or were not mere mortals). I think you have to assess them, understand where they're coming from, then resolve to stand firm...or do that which may be necessary to protect oneself -- but not to show (at least in public) fear...(petty dictators thrive in atmosphere's of fear -- it's what they create and then pose themselves as "invincible" -- when in reality, they are not "invincible" -- what's that one State in the U.S. which has as its motto something about Tyrants?).

202 OldLineTexan  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:32:22pm

re: #159 song_and_dance_man

There might be an opening in California soon.

If you are the Queen of California, then I am King of the Rain

203 jainphx  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:32:28pm

re: #75 Syrah

I think your right, but it all adds up(666) to spell Barack Obama.

204 Alouette  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:32:29pm

re: #126 MandyManners

Napolean 5'2"

Hitler 5'7"

Attila 4'6"

Stalin 5'4"

Khrushchev 5'3"

Ahmadinejad 5'0"

Alouette 4'11"

205 brainwizard73  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:32:53pm

re: #197 Mars Needs Neocons

Sometimes it just pays to be all knowing-ish.

206 The Other Les  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:33:20pm

re: #192 song_and_dance_man

Do you remember the video of Daschle using his hand to show he was taller that Putin. I remember the look Putin gave him.

Never saw it.

Link?

207 wolfie  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:33:33pm

re: #201 J.S.

Sic semper tyrannis........Thus always to tyrants
With Lady Liberty standing upon a defeated tyrant
VIRGINIA

208 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:33:37pm

re: #156 savage_nation

I'll have to say, the wee maniac is a hell of a dancer

OMG, I laughed my ass off! That video makes him look like a Fonzie mini-me.

209 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:34:00pm
210 Intrepid  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:34:06pm

re: #156 savage_nation

I'll have to say, the wee maniac is a hell of a dancer

Hee hee hee.... he is quite the steppy one! Haah haah....

211 Syrah  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:34:24pm

re: #203 jainphx

I think your right, but it all adds up(666) to spell Barack Obama.

If that is true, then will live very interesting lives after November.

212 HelloDare  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:34:26pm

re: #198 nyc redneck

and that's why they want to talk to him.
whoa, now that's scary.

Somehow they overlooked email. Maybe the 12th Imam thing only works in person.

213 gop_patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:34:36pm

re: #177 MandyManners

Shotgun!

LOL! :)

214 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:34:47pm
Some people believe the Hidden Imam is living his life somewhere

He is. My cousin saw him selling used cars in El Segundo back in the '70's.

/nothing to be scared of

215 J.S.  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:34:54pm

re: #207 wolfie

Thank you, Wolfie.

216 ratherdashing  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:34:58pm

Even the Iranian Clerics are starting to question Ahmadinejad.

Iran Clerics Rebuke Ahmadinejad

Two leading clerics retorted that Ahmadinejad would be better off concentrating on Iran's social problems -- most notably its double-digit inflation -- than indulging in such mystical rhetoric.

"If Ahmadinejad wants to say that the hidden imam is supporting the decisions of the government, it is not true," sniped Gholam Reza Mesbahi Moghadam, the spokesman of the conservative Association of Combatant Clerics.

"For sure, the hidden imam does not approve of inflation of 20 percent, the high cost of living and numerous other errors," he said, according to the Kargozaran daily.

Ali Asghari, a member of the conservative Hezbollah faction in parliament, told the president not to link the management of the country to the imam.

"Ahmadinejad would do better to worry about social problems like inflation ... and other terrestrial affairs," the Etemad Melli daily quoted him as saying.

217 Intrepid  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:35:10pm

re: #162 MandyManners

I'd love to be Empress for a few days.

GOD! What I wouldn't give......just 24 hours!

218 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:35:20pm
219 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:35:25pm
220 wolfie  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:35:45pm

re: #201 J.S.

Your comment moved me even before I got to the end.
Then you reminded me of my state's motto....and what it means.

221 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:36:03pm

re: #192 song_and_dance_man

Do you remember the video of Daschle using his hand to show he was taller that Putin. I remember the look Putin gave him.

I missed that one.

222 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:36:35pm

re: #198 nyc redneck

and that's why they want to talk to him.
whoa, now that's scary.

BO is the Manchurian Candidate. Heed the warning.

223 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:36:45pm

re: #165 hayseed

You're right....

After the completion of Fajr Salaat (congregational dawn prayers), Hadhrat Isa (A.S.) will open the door behind him where Dajjal accompanied by 70,000 Yahudis (Jews) will be. He will indicate with his hand to move away between him (Hadhrat Isa (A.S.)) and Dajjal. Dajjal will then see Hadhrat Isa (A.S.). At that time every Kafir on whom the breath of Hadhrat Isa (A.S.) will reach, will die. His breath will reach up to the distance of his eyesight. The Muslims will then come down from the mountains and break loose on the army of Dajjal. There will be war, Dajjal will retreat, and Hadhrat Isa (A.S.) will pursue Dajjal. Hadhrat Isa (A.S.) will have two flexible swords and one shield with him and with these he will kill Dajjal at the Gate of Hudd. He willl show the Muslims the blood of Dajjal which will get on his shield. Eventually the Yahudis will be selected and killed. The swine will be killed and the cross broken. People will revert to Islam. Wars will end, and people will return to their respective countries. One Jamaat (group) of Muslims will remain in his service and companionship.


He does kill a bunch of Jews though.

224 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:36:53pm

re: #199 brainwizard73

((((brainwizard)))))

225 HelloDare  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:36:54pm

Wonder of Mahmoud has a weegee board? Might want to try contacting the Hidden Imam that way.

226 gman  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:36:56pm

I would love to see a photoshop of Dr. Evil (BO's face) holding Mini Me (Dinner Jacket's face).

227 brainwizard73  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:37:11pm

So if Obama is in fact a less than 5'9 dictator in waiting, does that at least mean we will get to see him wearing a fancy uniform with lots of medals that he presents to himself?

Think Pinochet, Tito, Idi Amin...

Personally, I hope he goes for the navy blue coat with leopard skin turnbacks. Better yet...will the military now, instead of marching, start doing that slightly effeminate goose step that makes the entire battalion look like the cast of "the Producers"?

If we're going to have fascism in America...I want the style too, dammit.

228 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:37:16pm

re: #222 really grumpy big dog Johnson

I actually wondered that about McCain for a while, but come November it's hold my nose time.

229 mama winger  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:37:40pm

re: #209 ploome hineni

the 'west' cannot deal with a religious existential conflict

but thats what it is

so 'the west' finds excuses

Yes, you're right. We are not used to dealing with people who model their political aspirations to fit a tyrannically religious worldview. Because we do not operate that way, we cannot seem to believe that other people very much do. As Babba often says, you might not be interested in a religious war, but it is interested in you.

230 ratherdashing  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:37:43pm

re: #218 ploome hineni

heya ploomy!

231 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:37:45pm

re: #201 J.S.

I don't know -- do you really want to fear a person? After all, it's a person -- and what is the common fate of all people? He or she dies. Do you see where this expression of fear of a person might lead? (it's to think of this person as if they were somehow "g-dlike" or were not mere mortals). I think you have to assess them, understand where they're coming from, then resolve to stand firm...or do that which may be necessary to protect oneself -- but not to show (at least in public) fear...(petty dictators thrive in atmosphere's of fear -- it's what they create and then pose themselves as "invincible" -- when in reality, they are not "invincible" -- what's that one State in the U.S. which has as its motto something about Tyrants?).

I like my avatar.

232 gibsonz  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:38:03pm

re: #156 savage_nation

I'll have to say, the wee maniac is a hell of a dancer

----------
Jeez, the guy looks like a home made taco after a rough night at the bar.

233 HelloDare  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:38:08pm

re: #226 gman

The other way around.

234 Racer X  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:38:34pm
Peek-a-boo!

I see him!

235 lobo91  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:38:47pm

re: #193 nyc redneck

a lot of psychopaths believe sincerely the rubbish they spout.

I've seen no evidence to suggest that Ahmadinejad is a psychpath. He's a member of a cultish faction within Shia Islam (sort of a cult within a cult) that preaches some fairly absurd nonsense, but it's not as though he's some lone whackjob who dreamed all this stuff up on his own.

Ahmadinejad is acting entirely in accordance with his sincere beliefs. He's not behaving irrationally (although you can certainly make the case that his beliefs are irrational by our standards, but that's not the same thing).

236 Annar  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:38:51pm

Actually Rev. Wright is the hidden imam. After the election he'll hold a coming out party with Imam Farrakhan, B. Husein will revert to Islam on the spot and declare that he is really Isa comming back to help play out the Muslim eschatology.

/sarc

237 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:39:28pm

re: #216 ratherdashing

Even the Iranian Clerics are starting to question Ahmadinejad.

Iran Clerics Rebuke Ahmadinejad

Wow.

238 Ma Sands  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:39:43pm

Here's something healing I think a bunch of Lizards would be interested in.....

239 HelloDare  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:39:54pm

The Hidden Iman is hiding in Hillary. That's why Bill won't go near her.

240 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:39:55pm

re: #235 lobo91

Actually what I learned in psych class says that he may well be completely sane. When everyone else around you is saying the same stuff as you, you may be in fact sane in an insane culture.

241 brainwizard73  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:39:56pm

re: #224 MandyManners

((((brainwizard)))))

Damn. I just sprained my arm patting myself on the back.

I guess I am kind of like the Wizard of Oz...except, I'm a bit taller (no danger of dictatorship arising from my street) and less likely to solve anyone else's problems.

Unless I am being paid by the hour.

242 mama winger  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:40:14pm

re: #236 Annar

Actually Rev. Wright is the hidden imam. After the election he'll hold a coming out party with Imam Farrakhan, B. Husein will revert to Islam on the spot and declare that he is really Isa comming back to help play out the Muslim eschatology.

/sarc

Or is it? :)

243 Occasional Reader  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:40:44pm
the Hidden Imam manages all the affairs of the world

The Hidden Imam obviously needs to learn how to delegate.

244 nyc redneck  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:40:46pm

re: #222 really grumpy big dog Johnson

BO is the Manchurian Candidate. Heed the warning.

consider it heeded.

245 EE  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:40:48pm

If according to the president of Iran, the Hidden Imam, that is the 12th Shiite Imam, is still alive over these past centuries, and manages all the affairs of the world, then this Hidden Imam Shiite guy is more powerful than Allah.

And probably Ahmadinejad is setting himself up to either present the Hidden Imam to the world, or to reveal himself to be the Hidden Imam (once Iran has nukes).

What would a President Obama ("We are the ones we have been waiting for") say to His Holiness (or His Nuttiness) Mahmud Ahmadinejad?

Here is what Charles Krauthammer said today: "What exactly is he [Obama] going to say to these thugs that has not already been said? If he doesn't have anything new to say, then a trip to Iran, or a negotiation with Ahmadinejad, is an exercise in redundancy, and in honoring him. And if he has new stuff to say, what's it going to be? It's not going to be more sticks. He's not going to be tougher on Iran than Bush and Cheney. It's going to be carrots. So let's ask Obama: Are you going to offer Iran Lebanon? Are you going to offer it sway over Iraq? Are you going to offer it domination of the Gulf? Or are you going to offer it America squeezing Israel? So it IS about appeasement, and Israel IS a place in which you want to make...[interruption].. because if there WERE to be an offer to Iran it would surely involve Israel's interest." [Charles Krauthammer today, May 15, on the panel on Fox News Special Report with Brit Hume]

246 bcgirl  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:41:17pm

really,? barack obama adds up to 666 how? I hate math (sorry math lizards) please show me this math.

re: #203 jainphx

I think your right, but it all adds up(666) to spell Barack Obama.

247 mama winger  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:41:25pm

re: #238 Ma Sands

That was a nice gesture there.

248 ratherdashing  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:41:29pm

re: #237 MandyManners

An Iranian ex-Muslim that I know told me that there must be pressure from the people for that kind of response by the clerics. Folks must be talking about dinnerjacket enough for the clerics to not ignore.

249 HelloDare  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:41:35pm

Wasn't Hitler put up as a puppet and then got out of control?

250 Ma Sands  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:42:06pm

re: #247 mama winger

Yes.

251 republic  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:42:25pm

Damn, this thread slowed down to a crawl, I leave for a few minutes, and I come back and I'm overwhelmed.

I guess the world doesn't revolve around me.

:)

252 gop_patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:43:06pm

re: #223 Killgore Trout

You're right....

He does kill a bunch of Jews though.

Funny that they say the muslims will come down from the mountains- Revelations says:

Revelation 6:15-17 (New International Version)
15Then the kings of the earth, the princes, the generals, the rich, the mighty, and every slave and every free man hid in caves and among the rocks of the mountains. 16They called to the mountains and the rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17For the great day of their wrath has come, and who can stand?"

So pretty much, the exact opposite of what the muslims say will happen. Hmmm. Interesting.

253 lobo91  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:43:07pm

re: #240 Mars Needs Neocons

Actually what I learned in psych class says that he may well be completely sane. When everyone else around you is saying the same stuff as you, you may be in fact sane in an insane culture.

Exactly.

254 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:43:40pm

re: #245 EE

If according to the president of Iran, the Hidden Imam, that is the 12th Shiite Imam, is still alive over these past centuries, and manages all the affairs of the world, then this Hidden Imam Shiite guy is more powerful than Allah.

And probably Ahmadinejad is setting himself up to either present the Hidden Imam to the world, or to reveal himself to be the Hidden Imam (once Iran has nukes).

What would a President Obama ("We are the ones we have been waiting for") say to His Holiness (or His Nuttiness) Mahmud Ahmadinejad?

Here is what Charles Krauthammer said today: "What exactly is he [Obama] going to say to these thugs that has not already been said? If he doesn't have anything new to say, then a trip to Iran, or a negotiation with Ahmadinejad, is an exercise in redundancy, and in honoring him. And if he has new stuff to say, what's it going to be? It's not going to be more sticks. He's not going to be tougher on Iran than Bush and Cheney. It's going to be carrots. So let's ask Obama: Are you going to offer Iran Lebanon? Are you going to offer it sway over Iraq? Are you going to offer it domination of the Gulf? Or are you going to offer it America squeezing Israel? So it IS about appeasement, and Israel IS a place in which you want to make...[interruption].. because if there WERE to be an offer to Iran it would surely involve Israel's interest." [Charles Krauthammer today, May 15, on the panel on Fox News Special Report with Brit Hume]

Smart dude. I often agree with his views.

255 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:44:37pm
256 gop_patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:44:44pm

re: #236 Annar

Actually Rev. Wright is the hidden imam. After the election he'll hold a coming out party with Imam Farrakhan, B. Husein will revert to Islam on the spot and declare that he is really Isa comming back to help play out the Muslim eschatology.

/sarc

Oof, I wish he'd go back into hiding then. LOL

257 conservativecyclist  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:45:01pm

re: #204 Alouette

I'm 17 years old, 5'7", 110 lbs. and ready to control the world. Just watch and wait!

258 mama winger  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:45:19pm

Well, it's hard to sleep when I'm also trying to read and type, so I guess I better choose. I'm going to go with 'sleep'. I find that I am quite fond of it. Goodnight folks.

Stay strong and determined. What's the worse that can happen?

:)

259 republic  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:45:27pm

re: #255 song_and_dance_man

We were waiting for you but decided to proceed without you.

I thought as much

;p

260 lobo91  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:45:34pm

re: #216 ratherdashing

Even the Iranian Clerics are starting to question Ahmadinejad.

Those two Iranian clerics are not members of the 12th Imam Shia subsect.

261 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:46:03pm

re: #248 ratherdashing

An Iranian ex-Muslim that I know told me that there must be pressure from the people for that kind of response by the clerics. Folks must be talking about dinnerjacket enough for the clerics to not ignore.

It sounds as if ShortShit is trying to distract attention from his internal problems.

262 gop_patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:46:07pm

re: #257 conservativecyclist

We're with ya! :)

263 Sean  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:46:13pm

re: #249 HelloDare

Ding! DING! We have a winner!

He was thought to be "Controllable".

264 Geepers  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:46:16pm

Hey ratherdashing, sorry I missed you the other day.

265 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:46:23pm

re: #249 HelloDare

Wasn't Hitler put up as a puppet and then got out of control?

What?

266 gop_patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:46:29pm

re: #258 mama winger

Goodnight, sleep well. :)

267 brainwizard73  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:46:43pm

re: #245 EE

I love Chucky K, but I have a thought that seems destined to spill out on to the paper.

Barack Obama will turn Tehran in to a parking lot.
Stop laughing at me. Stay with me on this...

Obama is the peacenik wussie candidate that wants to talk. So he will talk. Then, when he realizes (either down deep, or at last) that Iran is about to make Tel Aviv go from 87 degrees to a few million degrees in less than a second (or some other provocation), he can lay waste to Iran with the "street cred" of being the lover, not the fighter. No one on the right is likely to get pissy about it (unless he just trys the 30,000 feet and above Clinton plan) and the lefties won't like it but since it is their guy with his finger on the button, they won't bitch too much.

What do you think? Am I on something or onto something?

268 conservativecyclist  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:47:05pm

re: #262 gop_patriot

Big things come in small packages... :)

269 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:47:24pm

Diplo-Fu?

Charles. That original? That is freakin' brilliant.

(is there a "suck-up" tag?)

But sincerely, that is freakin' brilliant.

270 republic  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:47:39pm

re: #258 mama winger

Well, it's hard to sleep when I'm also trying to read and type, so I guess I better choose. I'm going to go with 'sleep'. I find that I am quite fond of it. Goodnight folks.

Stay strong and determined. What's the worse that can happen?

:)


Goodnight mama winger, God Bless

271 The Other Les  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:48:21pm

re: #227 brainwizard73

So if Obama is in fact a less than 5'9 dictator in waiting, does that at least mean we will get to see him wearing a fancy uniform with lots of medals that he presents to himself?

Think Pinochet, Tito, Idi Amin...

Personally, I hope he goes for the navy blue coat with leopard skin turnbacks. Better yet...will the military now, instead of marching, start doing that slightly effeminate goose step that makes the entire battalion look like the cast of "the Producers"?

If we're going to have fascism in America...I want the style too, dammit.

I wouldn't include Pinochet in that unillustrious group. He overthrew a raving Marxist after members of the legislative and judicial branches of the government literally begged him to do it. And Pinochet voluntarily stepped down. NO other dictator has done that.

272 Desert Dog  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:48:38pm

The Hidden Iman is found!

All this time, she was on covers of zillions of magazines and married to David Bowie!

No offense to Mr. Imadinnerjacket, or to Mrs. Bowie, but I cannot see her controlling everything.....

273 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:48:43pm

re: #267 brainwizard73

I'd say maybe, but BO is a peacenik from wayback, and his commie connections don't really make one think he will do anything to help American or ally interests.

274 pat  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:48:44pm

Alfred E. Obama

275 brainwizard73  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:48:47pm

re: #251 republic

Damn, this thread slowed down to a crawl, I leave for a few minutes, and I come back and I'm overwhelmed.

I guess the world doesn't revolve around me.

:)

Took care of that pesky terrorism thing, solved the housing crisis without raising taxes and got the Patriots off the hook with Arlen Spector while you were gone. No biggie.

276 wolfie  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:49:00pm

re: #255 song_and_dance_man

We were waiting for you but decided to proceed without you.

Er.......if he's the Hidden Imam, he's gonna be pissed.

277 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:49:13pm

re: #263 Sean

Ding! DING! We have a winner!

He was thought to be "Controllable".

Who was behind Hitler?

278 Occasional Reader  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:49:35pm

Occasional Reader is seven feet tall. He could consume Ahmadinejad with fireballs from his eyes, and bolts of lightning from his arse.

279 gop_patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:49:45pm

re: #268 conservativecyclist

My son is 18, and about 5'9". One of the smartest, toughest, most awesome people I know. But of course, I'm biased...

/he did tell me he'd be pretty ticked if his sister ever gets taller than him; she's 11 and already as tall as I am (5'4"). lol

280 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:50:04pm
281 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:50:08pm

re: #278 Occasional Reader

Make with the fireballs willy. (Monkey movies scene)

282 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:50:15pm

re: #2 MandyManners

I fear this man.

If he was the leader of Pakistan, maybe so. But for now he's just an annoying little twerp attempting to sound tough by spouting anti-Semitic B.S., and blaming all the muslim world's problems on the Jews.

283 ratherdashing  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:50:16pm

re: #264 Geepers

no problemo. I had some time and was passing right by and hoping to do some quick catching up on things with you. Nothing terribly important.

I sent you, ploome, and ciaospirit an email tonight.

284 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:50:42pm

re: #280 song_and_dance_man

It's true. Hindenburg gave him the Chancellorship hoping it would appease the Nazi's.

Dumb-shit.

285 republic  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:50:44pm

re: #275 brainwizard73

Took care of that pesky terrorism thing, solved the housing crisis without raising taxes and got the Patriots off the hook with Arlen Spector while you were gone. No biggie.


LOL!

Thank you.

286 bcgirl  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:51:07pm

it says "the cross will be broken" - no, i don't think so


m>re: #223 Killgore Trout

You're right....

He does kill a bunch of Jews though.

287 Occasional Reader  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:51:22pm

re: #277 MandyManners

Who was behind Hitler?

Edgar Bergen.

288 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:51:22pm

re: #282 Bob in Breckenridge

If he was the leader of Pakistan, maybe so. But for now he's just an annoying little twerp attempting to sound tough by spouting anti-Semitic B.S., and blaming all the muslim world's problems on the Jews.

Like a thug in the hood.

289 Desert Dog  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:51:28pm

It's not nice to mock other people's beliefs, so, we should just be content mocking Mahmoud himself. He is offering up quite to bit for mocking too!

290 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:51:31pm

Holy Crap! I think it's original in this context.

New (really cool) terms make me giddy.

I, to this day tell my wife that I coined the term "Man-Up".

291 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:52:07pm
292 wolfie  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:52:16pm

re: #267 brainwizard73

You're absolutely right that politically he could do it easier than anyone else.
The problem w/ Obama is that he wouldn't bother. Why should he? I honestly believe he doesn't think Israel is worth it.

293 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:52:31pm

re: #267 brainwizard73

I love Chucky K, but I have a thought that seems destined to spill out on to the paper.

Barack Obama will turn Tehran in to a parking lot.
Stop laughing at me. Stay with me on this...

Obama is the peacenik wussie candidate that wants to talk. So he will talk. Then, when he realizes (either down deep, or at last) that Iran is about to make Tel Aviv go from 87 degrees to a few million degrees in less than a second (or some other provocation), he can lay waste to Iran with the "street cred" of being the lover, not the fighter. No one on the right is likely to get pissy about it (unless he just trys the 30,000 feet and above Clinton plan) and the lefties won't like it but since it is their guy with his finger on the button, they won't bitch too much.

What do you think? Am I on something or onto something?

Are you asking me to bet my first-born on that? I might need a bit more convincing.

{a lot}

294 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:52:33pm

re: #287 Occasional Reader

Edgar Bergen.

LOL! Did he have his hand up Hitler's butt?

295 nyc redneck  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:52:38pm

re: #235 lobo91

I've seen no evidence to suggest that Ahmadinejad is a psychpath. He's a member of a cultish faction within Shia Islam (sort of a cult within a cult) that preaches some fairly absurd nonsense, but it's not as though he's some lone whackjob who dreamed all this stuff up on his own.

Ahmadinejad is acting entirely in accordance with his sincere beliefs. He's not behaving irrationally (although you can certainly make the case that his beliefs are irrational by our standards, but that's not the same thing).

w/out regard to proper medical diagnosis as to his motivation, the asshat is a dangerous s.o.b. and will soon become even more dangerous. i call the assh*le a crazy bastard because of what he says and what he has planned. call it layman terminology abt his sincere beliefs (whether he thought them up or not.) he's fcking nuts. LOL

296 Occasional Reader  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:52:52pm

re: #290 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Holy Crap! I think it's original in this context.

New (really cool) terms make me giddy.

I, to this day tell my wife that I coined the term "Man-Up".

Huh, you too. I'm trying to convince my wife I invented "twenty-three skiddoo".

297 republic  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:53:00pm

re: #289 Desert Dog

It's not nice to mock other people's beliefs, so, we should just be content mocking Mahmoud himself. He is offering up quite to bit for mocking too!


I will mock anyone who would lop my head off, by their own "holy books", because I won't submit to their "religion".

298 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:53:14pm
299 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:53:16pm

re: #292 wolfie

They say that you can tell what a person is by the company they keep. He keeps company with a lot of cold, heartless, bastards.

300 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:53:19pm

re: #257 conservativecyclist

I'm 17 years old, 5'7", 110 lbs. and ready to control the world. Just watch and wait!

17, 5'7", and 110 lbs.?

301 conservativecyclist  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:53:25pm

Hi Pat, I'm Hermeneutic's son. Has your son dominated WOW yet?

302 USA  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:53:34pm
Here is what Charles Krauthammer said today: "What exactly is he [Obama] going to say to these thugs that has not already been said? ... It's going to be carrots. So let's ask Obama: Are you going to offer Iran Lebanon?

Obama may offer him one of the 57 states.

303 Occasional Reader  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:53:46pm

re: #294 MandyManners

LOL! Did he have his hand up Hitler's butt?

No, I think Erich Rohmer was more into that stuff.

304 brainwizard73  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:54:09pm

re: #271 The Other Les

I wouldn't include Pinochet in that unillustrious group. He overthrew a raving Marxist after members of the legislative and judicial branches of the government literally begged him to do it. And Pinochet voluntarily stepped down. NO other dictator has done that.

Three points:

First, I was really going for the "general-cum-president" bit and not focusing so much on politics...Frankly, I just couldn't come up with a lot of "fresh" examples...(musharraff?)

Second, my point on fashion still stands...show me the brushed brass helmets!

Third, Auggie might have been useful for taking down a marxist dictatorship, but he kind of replaced it with his own and I think (although I can be educated on this) that his regime was guilty of a lot of human rights abuses...and I don't mean just being tough with violent revolutionaries; obviously that would have been legit...I mean really going after people that just didn't think like he wanted them to think. In other words, replacing one dictatorship for another isn't really all that much better...one murdering bastard is a murdering bastard; the victims are still dead.

305 Mich-again  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:54:21pm

re: #216 ratherdashing

From your link...

Earlier this year, Iran's former top nuclear negotiator Hassan Rowhani complained that superstition was growing in the country and that people were even putting out food for the Mahdi in case he returned that very night.

Must be Santa, Must be Santa, Must be Santa, Santa Claus!

Ha. Dudes been alive for a thousand years hiding in a hole in the ground and these idiots think they need to leave a glass of milk and some cookies for him when he returns..

Talk about being out in left field with a football bat.

306 bcgirl  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:54:26pm

our worst nightmare! yuck

re: #236 Annar

Actually Rev. Wright is the hidden imam. After the election he'll hold a coming out party with Imam Farrakhan, B. Husein will revert to Islam on the spot and declare that he is really Isa comming back to help play out the Muslim eschatology.

/sarc

307 lawhawk  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:54:30pm

re: #277 MandyManners

Who was behind Hitler?

Bialystock and Bloom, who else?!

308 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:54:30pm

re: #294 MandyManners

LOL! Did he have his hand up Hitler's butt?

Hopefully holding a large pineapple. (Oh, no...another Adam Sandler bit!)

309 republic  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:54:30pm

re: #293 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Are you asking me to bet my first-born on that? I might need a bit more convincing.

{a lot}

I honestly believe, that under no circumstances, would either Clinton or Hussein Obama defend the USA militarily, and that is if we were outright attacked on a massive scale, in the homeland.

Watch.

310 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:54:32pm

re: #303 Occasional Reader

No, I think Erich Rohmer was more into that stuff.

I'm squicked.

311 saberry0530  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:54:42pm

re: #294 MandyManners

LOL! Did he have his hand up Hitler's butt?

TO the shoulder!

312 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:54:54pm
313 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:55:04pm

re: #280 song_and_dance_man

It's true. Hindenburg gave him the Chancellorship hoping it would appease the Nazi's.

/That worked out well. Too bad he's not alive today. He'd be perfect as Obama's National Security Advisor.

314 ratherdashing  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:55:10pm

re: #267 brainwizard73

Kinda like Nixon going to China. He was the only one who could do it and avoid the criticism.

315 republic  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:55:38pm

re: #302 USA

Obama may offer him one of the 57 states.

57 plus two more to go.

Sheesh!

316 gop_patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:55:49pm

re: #269 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

(is there a "suck-up" tag?)

ROFLOL There should be one, but only other people can use it, you can't use it for your own posts.

There could be a +, a -, and a :-* (that's a little kissing-up smiley)

;)

317 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:55:59pm

re: #307 lawhawk

Bialystock and Bloom, who else?!

ROFLMAO!

318 wolfie  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:56:03pm

re: #299 Mars Needs Neocons

They say that you can tell what a person is by the company they keep. He keeps company with a lot of cold, heartless, bastards.

Well said.

319 Geepers  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:56:08pm

ratherdashing (#283),

Checked my mailboxes and didn't see anything.

320 conservativecyclist  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:56:15pm

re: #300 Bob in Breckenridge

Yes, this is true. I'm trying to gain weight. One time at a cycling camp and got down to less than 100 pounds in a week. They almost kicked me out because they thought it was unhealthy.

321 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:56:22pm

re: #308 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hopefully holding a large pineapple. (Oh, no...another Adam Sandler bit!)

Ouch!

322 brainwizard73  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:56:49pm

re: #292 wolfie

You're absolutely right that politically he could do it easier than anyone else.
The problem w/ Obama is that he wouldn't bother. Why should he? I honestly believe he doesn't think Israel is worth it.

He could take a page out of the Clinton book and realize that if a strike is generally popular, he would do it in a heartbeat...or as fast as it takes his bowling ball to find the gutter, which ever is fastest.

323 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:57:07pm

re: #311 saberry0530

TO the shoulder!

Missed his calling as a proctologist.

324 republic  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:57:32pm

The fact that Hussein Obama believes the USA has 57, +2 states, and is taken seriously, is insane.

Carry on folks.

325 nyc redneck  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:57:50pm

re: #278 Occasional Reader

Occasional Reader is seven feet tall. He could consume Ahmadinejad with fireballs from his eyes, and bolts of lightning from his arse.

and that's what we're talkin' abt.

326 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:58:02pm

re: #307 lawhawk

Bialystock and Bloom, who else?!

Youtube Video

327 rawmuse  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:58:04pm

Well, I have been out most of the day, and I can't read all the comments upthread, but here is my take on it.

Given the virulent reaction that the Democrats gave Bush's speech at the Knesset today (you know, the one that got a standing ovation), this was a planned ambush by the Democrats.

If they win the Presidency in 2008, the Democrats are going to conspire to take out Israel.

Things are not always the way they seem, but usually they are precisely as they seem.

328 ratherdashing  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:58:13pm

re: #319 Geepers

dang. I guess I have to "do over."

329 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:58:35pm

re: #323 MandyManners

I'm more worried about who the puppetmaster is with his hand up BO. This is chicago politics mixed with new wave Soros manipulation. Just how many hands are up there anyway?

330 Occasional Reader  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:59:05pm

re: #324 republic

The fact that Hussein Obama believes the USA has 57, +2 states

Um, folks, let's be serious here, Obama doesn't really believe the USA has 59 states. He misspoke. It would be dangerous to underestimate him by assuming he's stupid.

331 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:59:08pm

re: #317 MandyManners

ROFLMAO!

Everyone in that whole movie was flat-out hilarious. Certainly one of the greatest comedies of all time.

332 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:59:11pm
333 republic  Thu, May 15, 2008 7:59:19pm

re: #329 Mars Needs Neocons

I'm more worried about who the puppetmaster is with his hand up BO. This is chicago politics mixed with new wave Soros manipulation. Just how many hands are up there anyway?

Stan is the main hand.

334 The Other Les  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:00:04pm

re: #304 brainwizard73

I could continue to argue but that would cross the line into the advocacy of violence.

335 OldLineTexan  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:00:22pm

re: #330 Occasional Reader

Um, folks, let's be serious here, Obama doesn't really believe the USA has 59 states. He misspoke. It would be dangerous to underestimate him by assuming he's stupid.

Yeah, wouldn't want to "Swift Bush" him.

336 little boomer  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:00:42pm

Mr. Ahmadinejad, the clinic called, your rubber room is ready.

337 brainwizard73  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:00:45pm

re: #309 republic

I honestly believe, that under no circumstances, would either Clinton or Hussein Obama defend the USA militarily, and that is if we were outright attacked on a massive scale, in the homeland.

Watch.

You folks are too cynical...too long have you toiled in the politics of personal destruction and pessimism. This is a new day.

Change we can believe it.

YES WE CAN!

Oh, and if the U.S. got hit on its own soil it would be such a popular move they would do it in a heart beat...(especially Clinton).

338 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:00:53pm

re: #324 republic

The fact that Hussein Obama believes the USA has 57, +2 states, and is taken seriously, is insane.

Carry on folks.

I'm obviously no BHO fan, but give him a break. He misspoke.

339 republic  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:00:54pm

re: #330 Occasional Reader

Um, folks, let's be serious here, Obama doesn't really believe the USA has 59 states. He misspoke. It would be dangerous to underestimate him by assuming he's stupid.


I've never underestimated him as stupid, just that he hates the USA so much, he doesn't care what he says.

C'mon OR, "57 states with two to go"?

340 The Other Les  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:01:18pm

re: #312 song_and_dance_man

He wanted the Nazi salute to be a fist.

"Thand up for the Fatherland!"

341 looking closely  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:01:18pm

Let's not forget that Ahmadinejad has already explicitly said that he is not a small child that will be bribed out of his nuclear program.

Those are his words, and they are quite telling.

The guy has made it crystal clear that "diplomacy" isn't going to work, in fact, he's said the process is insulting.

Meanwhile every single day of "diplomacy" is another day of ever-higher oil prices filling Iran's coffers with cash, and another day of spinning centrifuges bringing Iran to nuclear weapons.

So what is Obama going to do about this?

Answer, he's going to do EXACTLY what Iran wants, by conducting more negotiations (of the type that have failed for the last several years), and providing Iran with even more time.

I don't think its wrong to want to conduct negotiations per se, but having that public posture is EXACTLY the wrong thing to do. The message it sends isn't one of accomodation, its one of weakness.

342 Intrepid  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:01:21pm

Ok, I'm confessing my ignorance about Israel and her history - can you all give me some suggestions as to books I can read? Please, not so heady tomes, just good historical accounts.

I need to learn....

343 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:01:41pm

re: #329 Mars Needs Neocons

I'm more worried about who the puppetmaster is with his hand up BO. This is chicago politics mixed with new wave Soros manipulation. Just how many hands are up there anyway?

What does Soros want?

344 brainwizard73  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:02:02pm

re: #314 ratherdashing

Kinda like Nixon going to China. He was the only one who could do it and avoid the criticism.

Precisely. You are right on.

345 looking closely  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:02:25pm

re: #282 Bob in Breckenridge

If he was the leader of Pakistan, maybe so. But for now he's just an annoying little twerp attempting to sound tough by spouting anti-Semitic B.S., and blaming all the muslim world's problems on the Jews.

Funny, that's EXACTLY what they said about Hitler.

"Oh no, he can't be serious about building up weapons and killing all the Jews".

346 slokat  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:02:29pm

re: #112 Killgore Trout

If I'm not mistaken when JC (aka Issa) returns in the Islamic version he joins the dark side.

KT: didn't see this answered yet - Muslim version has the "real Jesus" aligning on their side v/s the "false christian Jesus" fighting on Israel's side.

Two Jesus's one of them must be wrong...

347 wolfie  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:02:49pm

re: #322 brainwizard73

He could take a page out of the Clinton book and realize that if a strike is generally popular, he would do it in a heartbeat...or as fast as it takes his bowling ball to find the gutter, which ever is fastest.

(LMAO.....at the gutterball!)
I don't think he's a Clinton.
I think he's a Carter. He really thinks he's holy.
And he's a true post-national, limo-Marxist.
I suspect he is an anti-semite, too. How could he tolerate Wright & Co. if he weren't?

348 Occasional Reader  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:02:55pm

re: #304 brainwizard73

Auggie might have been useful for taking down a marxist dictatorship, but he kind of replaced it with his own and I think (although I can be educated on this) that his regime was guilty of a lot of human rights abuses

You are correct.

Pinochet laid the course for Chile to eventually be prosperous and stable. But his regime participated in incredible brutality along the way. Look up the "DINA" and in particular "Manuel Contreras" if you're interested.

349 republic  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:03:06pm

re: #337 brainwizard73

You folks are too cynical...too long have you toiled in the politics of personal destruction and pessimism. This is a new day.

Change we can believe it.

YES WE CAN!

Oh, and if the U.S. got hit on its own soil it would be such a popular move they would do it in a heart beat...(especially Clinton).


I disagree.

It happened under the Clinton Admn.(WTCI) and they truned it into a "police action", and then, when they had Bin Laden in the target, and ready to go, they called it off.

You're dreaming.

350 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:03:08pm

re: #343 MandyManners

Same thing he always wants, a socialist paradise where only he gets to keep his money. If the man had any charisma I would think he was the evil one himself. He even sent one of his chief pets up here to MT to tamper with our political process, thank god he packed up for CO a few months back.

351 nyc redneck  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:03:15pm

re: #343 MandyManners

What does Soros want?

re: #343 MandyManners

What does Soros want?

to be president

352 brainwizard73  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:03:34pm

re: #334 The Other Les

I could continue to argue but that would cross the line into the advocacy of violence.

Right, violence never solves anything.

Except how to store excess ordinance.

353 Fat Jolly Penguin  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:04:05pm

re: #257 conservativecyclist

I'm 17 years old, 5'7", 110 lbs. and ready to control the world. Just watch and wait!

Whoa. You mean I'm not the only yoot on here? I'm 17 too! Hi!

354 republic  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:04:09pm

re: #338 Bob in Breckenridge

I'm obviously no BHO fan, but give him a break. He misspoke.


If a presidential candidate ever mispeaks that there are 59 states...

Whatever,

Sheesh!

355 Mich-again  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:04:34pm

re: #342 Intrepid

Ok, I'm confessing my ignorance about Israel and her history - can you all give me some suggestions as to books I can read? Please, not so heady tomes, just good historical accounts.

I need to learn....

Start with Nekama's Troll Hammer.

356 Syrah  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:04:40pm

re: #343 MandyManners

What does Soros want?

Soros reminds of Ernst Stavro Blofeld of Spectre in those old James bond movies.

357 Alouette  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:04:40pm

re: #343 MandyManners

What does Soros want?

to be emperor of the galaxy

358 OldLineTexan  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:04:42pm

re: #343 MandyManners

What does Soros want?

Revenge on the entire world, because he was born in Hungary. No one is Hungarian, for Pete's sake. Zsa Zsa just says that as part of her schtick.

/money and power; he is too old to give a d@mn about sex

359 Occasional Reader  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:04:55pm

re: #339 republic

C'mon OR, "57 states with two to go"?

Look up "Bushisms" on the web. And no, I don't believe GWB is stupid, either. It's just that when practically every word coming out of your mouth is being recorded, there are bound to be misstatements from time to time. Or do you never make a mistake when speaking, ever?

360 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:04:59pm

re: #351 nyc redneck

Soros is much more Machiavelli than presidential type. He doesn't want to be the target (wasn't born here anyway) the power behind the throne has much more freedom to act.

361 J.S.  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:05:13pm

re: #220 wolfie

(should i say, omg?) I didn't know the state's motto -- or maybe i did once upon a time and had forgotten. (I was born in Virginia.) (I now live among the moonbats -- but i long...yes, i long..for other states) O well, all for today...

362 HelloDare  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:05:38pm

re: #324 republic

The fact that Hussein Obama believes the USA has 57, +2 states, and is taken seriously, is insane.

Carry on folks.

Didn't he say that he had been to 57 and that he was going to one tomorrow and they didn't let him go to Alaska and Hawaii. That makes 60. Did he confuse 50 with 60?

363 nyc redneck  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:05:59pm

re: #360 Mars Needs Neocons

Soros is much more Machiavelli than presidential type. He doesn't want to be the target (wasn't born here anyway) the power behind the throne has much more freedom to act.

he will achieve that thru the puppet he bought.

364 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:06:06pm

re: #356 Syrah

OMG that's the exact thing I've been telling my father for years. I told him he is the ultimate Bond villian except we're in a world with no real Bond.

365 laZardo  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:06:10pm

Little does he know that Charles is the Hidden Imam, and Charles is pissed...

366 republic  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:06:43pm

re: #357 Alouette

to be emperor of the galaxy


He wants Israel destroyed, just like he, himself a Jew, turned over Jews to the Nazi's in WWII.

I call evil, what it is, which is Soros.

367 Occasional Reader  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:07:02pm

re: #356 Syrah

Soros reminds of Ernst Stavro Blofeld of Spectre in those old James bond movies.

You either swiped that from James Lileks, or you think like he does!

368 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:07:15pm
369 brainwizard73  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:07:24pm

re: #347 wolfie

(LMAO.....at the gutterball!)
I don't think he's a Clinton.
I think he's a Carter. He really thinks he's holy.
And he's a true post-national, limo-Marxist.
I suspect he is an anti-semite, too. How could he tolerate Wright & Co. if he weren't?

Don't you think the ol' battleaxe...I mean, Michelle, might release Obama's [deleted] from her purse if she sees a chance to be popular...then again, it could be an attack in the gulf, not a strike on Israel that gets Tehran a new decorating scheme primarily centered around a color called "Hint of Corpses".

370 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:07:33pm

re: #350 Mars Needs Neocons

Same thing he always wants, a socialist paradise where only he gets to keep his money. If the man had any charisma I would think he was the evil one himself. He even sent one of his chief pets up here to MT to tamper with our political process, thank god he packed up for CO a few months back.

Satan needs charisma?

371 republic  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:07:35pm

re: #362 HelloDare

Didn't he say that he had been to 57 and that he was going to one tomorrow and they didn't let him go to Alaska and Hawaii. That makes 60. Did he confuse 50 with 60?

His own words were, "I've been to 57 states, with two to go".

372 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:07:38pm

Soros

373 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:07:54pm

re: #351 nyc redneck

to be president

He's too ugly.

374 brainwizard73  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:07:58pm

re: #348 Occasional Reader

That's what I thought. Thanks for the info!

375 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:08:28pm

re: #370 MandyManners

In some cases, yes.

376 jainphx  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:08:30pm

re: #211 Syrah

I believe that the Anti Christ is alive some where, but doesn't know it. the time will come when the evil one will take him over.

377 Syrah  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:09:05pm

re: #364 Mars Needs Neocons

OMG that's the exact thing I've been telling my father for years. I told him he is the ultimate Bond villian except we're in a world with no real Bond.

The resemblance is amusing and disturbing.

Comic book villains are OK when they are just too impossible to be real. When the become real. . .

378 looking closely  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:09:30pm

re: #309 republic

I honestly believe, that under no circumstances, would either Clinton or Hussein Obama defend the USA militarily, and that is if we were outright attacked on a massive scale, in the homeland.

Watch.

They'd likely make crappy commander-in-chiefs, but I think ultimately they would have no choice to respond with force to that sort of attack.

I also don't think a homeland attack is probable, frankly.

What is more likely to happen is that with the perception that the President isn't going to pursue any sort of aggressive foreign policy, all of the world's bad actors (Iran, China, Russia, North Korea, etc) will feel free to pursue whatever aggressive policies they like (eg building nukes, seizing Taiwan, etc, etc).

Again, you don't have to actually *BE* a tough guy to be Commander in Chief, but you have to at least project the PERCEPTION that you're willing to use force if necessary.

Saying things like you're going to meet with any pissant dictator no matter what, or that you aren't going to use the US nuclear arsenal under any circumstances, is inviting a disaster.

379 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:09:43pm

re: #356 Syrah

Soros reminds of Ernst Stavro Blofeld of Spectre in those old James bond movies.

Does he have a kitty cat?

380 brainwizard73  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:09:49pm

Time to take my birdies and retire to the clubhouse. Folks, watch out for that big-eared dork and have a great night!

381 republic  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:09:53pm

re: #376 jainphx

I believe that the Anti Christ is alive some where, but doesn't know it. the time will come when the evil one will take him over.

I also believe that he has been born, and is near ready for his work here.

382 Syrah  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:10:11pm

re: #367 Occasional Reader

You either swiped that from James Lileks, or you think like he does!

Maybe both.

When you read a lot, proper attribution can be difficult manage.

383 MandyManners  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:10:14pm

Nighty-night, Lizards. I gotta' be up extra-early.

384 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:10:15pm

re: #377 Syrah

Also frightening is the fact that he has already set up his chain of inheritance of his evil empire and they only get more fanatic further down the line.

385 conservativecyclist  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:10:16pm

re: #353 Fat Jolly Penguin
You are a fat old man in a tux, aren't you?

386 Occasional Reader  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:10:24pm

re: #376 jainphx

I believe that the Anti Christ is alive some where, but doesn't know it. the time will come when the evil one will take him over.

Um, no.

387 Occasional Reader  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:10:56pm

re: #383 MandyManners

Nighty-night, Lizards. I gotta' be up extra-early.

Paper route, huh?

388 Mich-again  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:11:04pm

re: #343 MandyManners

What does Soros want?

Good question. When people become that rich, then money doesn't matter so much anymore and they tend to spend all their effort gaining power in order to build a legacy that will outlast them. No one makes statues of people just because they were rich. Soros wants to reshape the course of history.

Well, either that, or he just wants to keep getting richer..

389 Fat Jolly Penguin  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:11:08pm

re: #385 conservativecyclist

You are a fat old man in a tux, aren't you?

Nope, dead serious.

390 Annar  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:11:39pm

re: #346 slokat

KT: didn't see this answered yet - Muslim version has the "real Jesus" aligning on their side v/s the "false christian Jesus" fighting on Israel's side.

Two Jesus's one of them must be wrong...

Actually there are Sunni and Shi'a versions for the end game and they differ somewhat. In any case you've got three versions of Isa. IMO all are just fiction.

391 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:11:42pm

re: #389 Fat Jolly Penguin

A nun in bicycle shorts?

392 Intrepid  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:11:47pm

re: #355 Mich-again

Start with Nekama's Troll Hammer.

I'm talking about books, not links. I can get the links easy, but I'm asking for books!

393 conservativecyclist  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:12:03pm

re: #389 Fat Jolly Penguin

Are you kidding? Blue name.

394 Syrah  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:13:31pm

re: #379 MandyManners

Does he have a kitty cat?

A white long haired Persian?

hmmm.

A Persian pet? . . .

No. Ian was no prophet, just a good pulp fiction writer.

Still. . .

395 Occasional Reader  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:13:41pm

Lights out! Good night.

396 wolfie  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:14:25pm

re: #369 brainwizard73

Don't you think the ol' battleaxe...I mean, Michelle, might release Obama's [deleted] from her purse if she sees a chance to be popular...then again, it could be an attack in the gulf, not a strike on Israel that gets Tehran a new decorating scheme primarily centered around a color called "Hint of Corpses".

Yes. I think the scenario is possible if the attack were directed against Saudi Arabia.

397 slokat  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:14:37pm

re: #257 conservativecyclist

Is your Mom going to let you buy a motorcycle?

398 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:14:38pm
399 Mich-again  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:15:14pm

re: #392 Intrepid

I don't think any book ever laid it all out more succinctly or thoroughly than the greatest internet post ever.

400 conservativecyclist  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:15:23pm

re: #397 slokat

I don't know. Why don't you ask her? I've been working her, though.

401 looking closely  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:16:29pm

re: #324 republic

The fact that Hussein Obama believes the USA has 57, +2 states, and is taken seriously, is insane.

Carry on folks.


I can forgive that one, since it was undoubtedly a slip of the tongue (where he meant to say "47").

Stuff like that happens to everybody, and in THIS case I can legitimately believe he "misspoke". Its funny stuff, but I can't really get on his case about that one.

On the other hand, I still have problems with the "constant wound" remark about the Palestinian -Israeli conflict, since that phraseology is lifted straight out of Arabist Israel-bashing talking points.

And there are so many other serious positions on his platform that are disturbing, that I can't focus on a silly gaffe.

402 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:17:15pm

Heck of a long day kids. Must make nite nite.

By the way, Fat Jolly Penguin and Conservativecyclist...ignore the bad language. Sheesh, I have suits older than you two.

Gotta go put my teeth in a jar, my hair in a box, and my pacemaker on stun.

Damn, I feel old.

G'night John Boy!

(crap, they don't even know what I'm talking about.)

403 jainphx  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:17:21pm

re: #246 bcgirl

I should have used the sark tag sorry!

404 Syrah  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:17:27pm

re: #376 jainphx

I believe that the Anti Christ is alive some where, but doesn't know it. the time will come when the evil one will take him over.

You might be right. I would not want to guess on the specific details of the particulars yet.

It looks like the stage is being set.

405 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:17:34pm

Well thread slowed and I have an early day. Good night all, will try to catch up tomorrow on my cell.

406 Alouette  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:17:38pm

re: #392 Intrepid

I'm talking about books, not links. I can get the links easy, but I'm asking for books!

Here are a bunch of books to keep you busy.

407 HelloDare  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:17:46pm

re: #371 republic

His own words were, "I've been to 57 states, with two to go".

The exact quote was:

"It is wonderful to be back in Oregon. Over the last 15 months, we’ve traveled to every corner of the United States. I’ve now been in 57 states? I think one left to go. Alaska and Hawaii, I was not allowed to go to even though I really wanted to visit, but my staff would not justify it."

By my count, that's 60. In any case, the exact number isn't important. Imagine if Bush had said it. It would have confirmed for most liberals that he is an idiot. If McCain said it, they would question his aging mind. When Barack said it, it was just a slip up.

Whenever a conservative screws up, it confirms that they are a screw up. When a liberal screws up, it's an aberration.

408 pingjockey  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:18:00pm

Silly me, I thought it was da Jooooos and us lizards who ran everything from behind the scenes. And, where the hell is my zionist conspiracy check?

409 Intrepid  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:18:05pm

re: #399 Mich-again

I don't think any book ever laid it all out more succinctly or thoroughly than the greatest internet post ever.

Pardon me if I wish to read actual books about the topic! I do appreciate Nekama's Troll Hammer, and have looked at the links, but I'd like to have some actual book titles that I can read to help me understand the historical struggle.

410 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:18:26pm

re: #333 republic

Stan is the main hand.

He's behind all the other hands; the puppeteer if you will.

411 gop_patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:18:48pm

re: #402 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

LOL!

Goodnight, sleep well.

412 Mich-again  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:19:33pm

re: #401 looking closely

Dan Quayle misspelled potato and the Dems along with the media practically treated it as an impeachable offense. Obama fergets how many States there are and a million wagging tails explain it away as a mere slip of the tongue.

413 bcgirl  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:20:00pm

;-) yep
re: #355 Mich-again

Start with Nekama's Troll Hammer.

414 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:20:02pm

re: #412 Mich-again

Still here to say "Damn straight".

415 Karridine  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:20:26pm
NEW YORK, 15 May 2008 (BWNS) -- Six Baha'i leaders in Iran were arrested and taken to the notorious Evin prison yesterday in a sweep that is ominously similar to episodes in the 1980s when scores of Iranian Baha'i leaders were summarily rounded up and killed.

THIS is Ahmadi-nejad's doing... THIS is his respect for The Mahdi...

416 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:20:39pm

re: #414 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

And it is an alternate spelling...somewhere.

417 HelloDare  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:20:39pm

re: #412 Mich-again

If I were Barack, I try real hard to forget I was married.

418 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:20:48pm

re: #345 looking closely

Funny, that's EXACTLY what they said about Hitler.

"Oh no, he can't be serious about building up weapons and killing all the Jews".

Nope, totally different.

What happened 60-70 years ago could not happen today vis-a-vis the Jews.

I was specifically saying that if Iran had nukes, as Pakistan does, and Israel did not, then I'd take the little twerp seriously.

But Iran does NOT have nukes (yet), and Israel does.

And even if Iran does get a nuke, putting it on a missile and getting that missile to go where they want and detonate it when it should is not a walk in the park.

Besides, once Israel determines that Iran is close to having a bomb, they (Israel) will act accordingly.

419 Intrepid  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:20:54pm

re: #406 Alouette

Here are a bunch of books to keep you busy.

Now that's what I'm talkin' about! A good source of books I can read!

Do you have any you'd recommend, specifically?

420 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:20:58pm

re: #412 Mich-again

And in most cases I'd put up Quayles mind vs Barry's anytime. I've read some stuff by Dan pre-vp and it was brilliant.

421 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:21:03pm

re: #409 Intrepid

Pardon me if I wish to read actual books about the topic! I do appreciate Nekama's Troll Hammer, and have looked at the links, but I'd like to have some actual book titles that I can read to help me understand the historical struggle.

It's time to put your research skills to a test.

422 Neo Con since 9-11  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:22:15pm

re: #392 Intrepid

I'm talking about books, not links. I can get the links easy, but I'm asking for books!

Check books in spinoff links.

423 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:22:17pm

re: #387 Occasional Reader

Paper route, huh?

ROFLMAO! Upding for that! : )

424 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:22:57pm

"Diplo-Fu". Damn that's good.

425 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:23:51pm

re: #418 Bob in Breckenridge

Iran is working on missiles, but they don't need them.
One bomb carried in by Hamas would have a great effect.

426 Alouette  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:24:24pm

re: #419 Intrepid

Now that's what I'm talkin' about! A good source of books I can read!

Do you have any you'd recommend, specifically?

From Time Immemorial
Myths and Facts
Right to Exist
The Case for Israel

427 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:24:34pm
428 Karridine  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:24:40pm

re: #423 Bob in Breckenridge

"Paper route, eh?"
ROFLMAO! Upding for that! : )

I once had the largest San Francisco Chronicle paper route in Sacramento...

/duhh... high-school, 1962

429 Desert Dog  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:25:32pm

re: #425 Kosh's Shadow

The fact that Israel and the USA could use their missiles in return "should" deter them....if they were sane......unfortunately, they are not

430 Intrepid  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:25:32pm

re: #422 Neo Con since 9-11

Check books in spinoff links.

Got it - I'll start there. Thanks!

431 Syrah  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:25:39pm

re: #428 Karridine

It was a real newspaper back then.

432 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:26:00pm

re: #425 Kosh's Shadow

Iran is working on missiles, but they don't need them.
One bomb carried in by Hamas would have a great effect.

The bomb Iran is working on would not be a suitcase nuke- far from it.

433 looking closely  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:27:13pm

re: #412 Mich-again

Dan Quayle misspelled potato and the Dems along with the media practically treated it as an impeachable offense. Obama fergets how many States there are and a million wagging tails explain it away as a mere slip of the tongue.


I'm not saying its fair or the treatment is equitable; just that to me a stupid verbal slip by Obama doesn't by itself mean anything.

Obviously Quayle isn't an idiot for mis-spelling potato, any more than Obama is one for saying "57" when he meant "47". You can point to long lists of public gaffes by all US Presidents. . .that's what happens when the office is held by actual human beings whose every words is recorded for posterity and then held under the microscope.

Put differently, if it was wrong to get on Quayle's case, then its wrong to get on Obamas, that's all. Just because the media has a double-standard, doesn't mean I have to have one.

Now again, sure its a funny gaffe, but I don't believe for a second that Obama *actually* believes that the USA has 57 (or 60, whatever) states.

I find his ACTUAL beliefs to be far more troubling.

434 laZardo  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:27:32pm

re: #342 Intrepid

In 20 years, they'll have rewritten the history books to say that it was always the Arab Republic of Palestine...

435 Desert Dog  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:27:56pm

re: #427 ploome hineni

start here....

[Link: www.britishempire.co.uk...]

then what questions would you like answered?

I would read bits of the Torah aka the first parts of the Old Testament too, I do believe it mentions something about Israel in there.....Funny, I do not remember reading about all the great Kings of Palestine in that book though....

436 Mich-again  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:28:36pm

I had a double Free Press route back in the day. 120 dailies, 150 Sundays. I still have the Schwinn Hevi Duti bike/tank. 3 years, every damn day. God have mercy on the felchers who wouldn't pay when I came to collect. I was a real arsehole about that.

437 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:29:03pm

re: #429 Desert Dog

The fact that Israel and the USA could use their missiles in return "should" deter them....if they were sane......unfortunately, they are not

MAD worked against godless communists - they wanted paradise (for the rulers) in this world, and nukes get in the way.
But it doesn't work for those who want to get killed and go to their 72 virgin goats.

438 Intrepid  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:30:07pm

re: #434 laZardo

In 20 years, they'll have rewritten the history books to say that it was always the Arab Republic of Palestine...

I'm just looking for some books about the history of modern Israel - I admit my ignorance, and I want to learn!

Don't discourage me before I start, laZardo! Please.....

I'll make some nice southern fudge for ya.....with or without walnuts.

439 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:30:12pm

re: #432 Bob in Breckenridge

The bomb Iran is working on would not be a suitcase nuke- far from it.

They'd try a truck bomb as well.

440 wolfie  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:30:47pm

re: #428 Karridine

Are you yourself Bahai or just interested in the faith?
An Iranian professor I've worked with is Bahai......and already has a McCain sticker on his car. (This takes a lot of courage in academia!)
Needless to say, he's no fan of the current regime in Iran.

441 nigella  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:30:54pm

Looking closely, it's not the mistake Obama made that is the issue here, it is the reaction of the MSM to that mistake. We all heard about Dan Quayles" horrendous" blunder, so tell me where else other than the internet did you hear about Obamas"slip" of the tongue? Is that crickets I hear?

442 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:31:01pm

re: #434 laZardo

In 20 years, they'll have rewritten the history books to say that it was always the Arab Republic of Palestine...

History books? Other than the Koran? INFIDEL!

443 mikeinmd  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:31:06pm

re: #433 looking closely

I find his ACTUAL beliefs to be far more troubling.

Absolutely.

57 states - I'll chalk that up to a slip of the tongue.

Israel a sore on our foreign policy - A slip of his true thoughts. We weren't supposed to see that.

444 gop_patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:31:19pm

re: #436 Mich-again

God have mercy on the felchers who wouldn't pay when I came to collect. I was a real arsehole about that.

My dad had a paper route back in the 40s, in north Memphis. He borrowed a friends big dog and took it with him to the bad neighborhoods on collection day. LOL

445 Mich-again  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:31:35pm

re: #433 looking closely

I find his ACTUAL beliefs to be far more troubling.

True. Its not when he misspeaks thats scares me. Its when he says exactly what he means that is most frightening.

446 pat  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:31:55pm

Arabs are hardly mentioned in the New Testament.

447 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:32:46pm

re: #443 mikeinmd

Absolutely.

57 states - I'll chalk that up to a slip of the tongue.

Israel a sore on our foreign policy - A slip of his true thoughts. We weren't supposed to see that.

Lets not forget about a year ago he said "nobody suffers like the Palestinians".
I knew then that he was an agent of Stan or the Madhi (same thing)

448 Mich-again  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:32:50pm

re: #446 pat

Arabs are hardly mentioned in the New Testament.

And there are none in Star Trek. But then, thats set in the future...

449 jainphx  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:33:19pm

re: #386 Occasional Reader

No. Explain please why do you say that.

450 laZardo  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:33:57pm

re: #438 Intrepid

They've already made recommendations above. I'm just saying that with all these people following the media like sheep, the lies will soon become established truth, and we'd be the alternate-history twoofers.

re: #428 Karridine

Oddly enough, I actually subscribed to the Chronicle while in Sacramento. It was for journalism class, and the relatives I was living with already had the Bee.

451 pat  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:34:04pm

Most people do not realize that many of the ethnic groups mentioned in the time of Christ were Jewish. Just a bit different than primary authors. And the written language was Greek, and had been for 200 years.

452 wolfie  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:34:16pm

re: #448 Mich-again

And there are none in Star Trek. But then, thats set in the future...

Were there any in Star Wars? I think not.
Hmmmm......that takes care of the future and the past!

453 laZardo  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:34:23pm

re: #442 Kosh's Shadow

You forgot the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. (;

454 pat  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:35:20pm

re: #452 wolfie

Were there any in Star Wars? I think not.
Hmmmm......that takes care of the future and the past!

The Revenge Of Khan!
ok, likely a Indian Muslim

455 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:35:33pm
456 nigella  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:35:35pm

Mich-Again, precisely,but the trouble is do we really no what he thinks? He speaks in silver tongued phrases, and the few times he is without a tele-prompter he seems lost. Almost like a puppet being controlled by strings. Michelle Obama seems to be in control of this potential POTUS., along with Soros and all the other behindthe scenes handlers. Pretty scary isn't it?

457 Neo Con since 9-11  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:36:59pm

re: #447 Kosh's Shadow

Lets not forget about a year ago he said "nobody suffers like the Palestinians".
I knew then that he was an agent of Stan or the Madhi (same thing)

Well that's sort of true. Nobody else suffers for 60 years in the same refugee camps. They get jobs, build businesses, get homes, and don't fire rockets at the people providing them electricity and water.

458 Syrah  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:37:29pm

re: #425 Kosh's Shadow

Iran is working on missiles, but they don't need them.
One bomb carried in by Hamas would have a great effect.


Hamas has already done some work on a new delivery system, the B'Ambulance.

Bethlehem Terror Cells Planning Large-Scale Bombing Arrested
Tuesday, November 2, 2004

Israel's security services said today they had arrested several terror cells comprised of 16 residents of Bethlehem planning a series of large-scale terror attacks in Jerusalem, HA'ARETZ reported. The cells planned to launch two pairs of suicide bombers to the Mea She'arim neighborhood in the capital, and to carry out a terror attack using an explosive-laden ambulance. Also attributed to one of the cells is a plan to attack a bus carrying worshippers to Rachel's Tomb near Bethlehem.
Based on details released today by security forces, Hamas was meant to provide the suicide bombers for the missions, while Islamic Jihad was supposed to supply the explosive devices. Some of those arrested, including the would-be suicide bombers, served in the Palestinian national security services. Among those arrested is Hamed Dar'awi, an active member in the PA's national security services, who is said to have been the planner of the ambulance attack.

459 jainphx  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:37:44pm

re: #404 Syrah

The signs will be there, but the day and time only the father Knows.

460 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:38:03pm

re: #455 song_and_dance_man

klingons had honor.


(damn i really need to go to bed)

461 pat  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:38:19pm

I have decided I shall not go to work tomorrow.
/i know. don't try to talk me out of it

462 Mich-again  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:38:33pm

re: #456 nigella

Michelle Obama seems to be in control of this potential POTUS.,

Hmm. Where have we seen that before. A politician with the gift of gab with a dragon lady wife in the background who wears the pants.

If Michelle starts sharing cookie recipes, well then...

463 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:39:06pm

re: #455 song_and_dance_man

What about the Klingons?

They're far more rational.
And their honor killings are against armed individuals.
What honor is there without a good fight?
Die in battle with a worthy adversary; don't blow up and kill worthless civilians!
/Worf mode off

464 wolfie  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:39:20pm

re: #454 pat

The Revenge Of Khan!
ok, likely a Indian Muslim

Whoa! I knew I should have asked my son before I made any Star Wars pronouncements!

465 conservativecyclist  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:39:45pm

Good night. I'm off to bed because I have a long ride tomorrow and a race Saturday. Good meeting you Fat Jolly!

466 pat  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:40:05pm

re: #462 Mich-again

Hmm. Where have we seen that before. A politician with the gift of gab with a dragon lady wife in the background who wears the pants.

If Michelle starts sharing cookie recipes, well then...

Yeah. And it always comes down to the black mail doesn't it? I can ruin you.

467 gop_patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:40:28pm

re: #458 Syrah

Some of those arrested, including the would-be suicide bombers, served in the Palestinian national security services. Among those arrested is Hamed Dar'awi, an active member in the PA's national security services, who is said to have been the planner of the ambulance attack.

Is this the "state" security services? The "official" security services, of Abbas' government? Sh*t. The SOB probably carries a gun and ammo supplied by the U.S.

468 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:40:33pm

re: #466 pat

Yeah. And it always comes down to the black mail doesn't it? I can ruin you.

Racist!
/sarc

469 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:41:04pm

re: #439 Kosh's Shadow

They'd try a truck bomb as well.

Again, a nuke is not an IED, where you just press a button and it explodes. First of all, they'd have to test it to make sure it works. No way they could do that without the world knowing.

470 nigella  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:41:22pm

Mich-Again how true. Zeez, the thought of Obama winning POTUS, serving 2 terms and Michelle running for Senator, and then for POTUS really freaks me out!

471 looking closely  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:41:30pm

re: #418 Bob in Breckenridge

Nope, totally different.

What happened 60-70 years ago could not happen today vis-a-vis the Jews.


You're missing the point.
When Hitler wrote Mein Kampf ("Jihadi") people said LITERALLY the exact same thing as you.

"He's just a little twerp with a big mouth. He doesn't really mean all that stuff about eliminating the Jews, or building up Germany or taking over Europe and the world. He's crazy".

And the fact is, the little twerp meant every single word of it. Not only did he try to pull off just about everything he described in Mein Kampf, he ALMOST SUCCEEDED. OK, ultimately it didn't end well for Hitler, but all of the ones who poo-poohed him as a "nut" were dead-wrong (in many cases literally dead-wrong). He *WAS* a threat, a BIG threat all along.

Now, that said, what it is about Ahmedinjad that makes you think he should NOT be taken at face value, when he makes constant remarks about Israel being an illegitimate regime, a stinking corpse, and other remarks suggesting he sincerely wants to see it destroyed?

Consider also, that the Iranians have described Israel as a "one bomb" state, and have indicated that they don't care if many Iranians are killed in an Israeli counterattack.

I was specifically saying that if Iran had nukes, as Pakistan does, and Israel did not, then I'd take the little twerp seriously.

But Iran does NOT have nukes (yet), and Israel does.


So you don't take him seriously until he actually HAS the nukes he's been looking for?

Do you know how long that will take him? EXACTLY how long? And how will you know when its happened? What if it happens sooner than you think?

And even if Iran does get a nuke, putting it on a missile and getting that missile to go where they want and detonate it when it should is not a walk in the park.


Which means you should assume that unchecked its impossible or unlikely to happen?


Besides, once Israel determines that Iran is close to having a bomb, they (Israel) will act accordingly.


And what if Israel's intelligence is faulty, or its attempt to stop Iran fails? Then what?

472 wolfie  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:41:33pm

re: #465 conservativecyclist

Good night. I'm off to bed because I have a long ride tomorrow and a race Saturday. Good meeting you Fat Jolly!

Goodnight! And say hello to your mom!

473 Timbre  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:42:13pm

What is going on here today? Are Hidden Imams falling from the sky?

474 Syrah  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:42:31pm

re: #469 Bob in Breckenridge

Again, a nuke is not an IED, where you just press a button and it explodes. First of all, they'd have to test it to make sure it works. No way they could do that without the world knowing.

I think they would be perfectly happy to test their prototype in theater. These are kooks on a mission from god, not science geeks.

475 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:43:09pm
476 pat  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:43:21pm

re: #468 Kosh's Shadow

Racist!
/sarc

That was cute. lol.

477 wolfie  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:43:33pm

re: #470 nigella

Mich-Again how true. Zeez, the thought of Obama winning POTUS, serving 2 terms and Michelle running for Senator, and then for POTUS really freaks me out!

GAG!
I think I need a nighty-nighty drink.

478 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:43:33pm

re: #469 Bob in Breckenridge

Again, a nuke is not an IED, where you just press a button and it explodes. First of all, they'd have to test it to make sure it works. No way they could do that without the world knowing.

Even an explosion with nuclear material would be a good terrorist weapon.
But you're right; they have North Korean designs - which didn't work. Or Pakistani designs, which barely work.
Israel has good designs. They could probably send one right down the Madhi's well.

479 rawmuse  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:43:53pm

re: #471 looking closely

Looking closely, wisdom pours from your keyboard.
Hitler very nearly prevailed. It was called the Battle of the Bulge.
Check it out.

480 Mich-again  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:44:04pm

re: #461 pat

I have decided I shall not go to work tomorrow.

Neither me. I'm off in the early AM to a race track near Grand Rapids to watch my 16 yo drive his High School's electric car in the State Meet. My advice was to never ever ever use the brake. Dude. Just pretend its not even there.

481 jainphx  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:44:25pm

re: #465 conservativecyclist

You and your mom live in Arizona? how do you ride in all this heat.

482 slokat  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:44:38pm

When ever I see the palis/arabs claim that there never was a Jewish Temple in Jerusalem... or that Tel Aviv was founded by the arabs.

It makes me think that Orwell set his story in the wrong country.

483 Neo Con since 9-11  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:45:16pm

re: #469 Bob in Breckenridge

Again, a nuke is not an IED, where you just press a button and it explodes. First of all, they'd have to test it to make sure it works. No way they could do that without the world knowing.

A failed nuke is still a dirty bomb. They'd be happy either way.

484 wolfie  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:45:50pm

re: #473 Timbre

What is going on here today? Are Hidden Imams falling from the sky?

:D

485 Mich-again  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:46:01pm

re: #482 slokat

When ever I see the palis/arabs claim that there never was a Jewish Temple in Jerusalem... or that Tel Aviv was founded by the arabs.

It makes me think that Orwell set his story in the wrong country.

Or that somehow Southern Spain is really Muslim land.

There Are No MOOPS!

486 realwest  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:46:04pm

Hey Y'all - know I'm late again, what have I missed?!

487 gop_patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:46:13pm

re: #477 wolfie

GAG!
I think I need a nighty-nighty drink.

Me too. Palate brain cleanser!

/gets a beer

488 lobo91  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:46:51pm

re: #448 Mich-again

And there are none in Star Trek. But then, thats set in the future...

There are Arabs (well, there was at least one, Dr. Bashir on DS:9).

There are no Muslims, though.

Significant difference.

489 Mich-again  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:46:52pm

re: #486 realwest

Hey Y'all - know I'm late again, what have I missed?!

Realwest! Good to seeya!

490 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:47:41pm
491 rawmuse  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:47:44pm

re: #486 realwest

Hey Y'all - know I'm late again, what have I missed?!

Signs and wonders.

492 gop_patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:47:54pm

re: #486 realwest

Hey Y'all - know I'm late again, what have I missed?!

Hi, realwest! :) How are ya?

493 Fat Jolly Penguin  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:48:27pm

re: #465 conservativecyclist

Good night. I'm off to bed because I have a long ride tomorrow and a race Saturday. Good meeting you Fat Jolly!

You too! Good night!

Sorry for taking so long to get back here...

494 gop_patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:48:30pm

re: #490 savage_nation

Hey, that's cool! :) I hope you told him "hi" from us. LOL

495 pat  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:49:09pm

re: #474 Syrah

I think they would be perfectly happy to test their prototype in theater. These are kooks on a mission from god, not science geeks.

You know some think there are already test going on in the ME by parties other than Israel, which tested it's nonexistent bomb deep under the sea, off South Africa, or some some say. I had not heard this until a few weeks ago. Given the mediocre performance of the NorKor 'bomb', and the last 3 Pakistani tests, it seems unlikely. As for Iran, it will have to test. And anyone who thinks that a good test equals an arsenal is a fool. it means you are at the threshold. Only one nation has the computer capacity to test via modeling, and even the USA has lots of head scratchers, even with those ChiCom spies trying to help us out.

496 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:49:11pm
497 Syrah  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:49:16pm

re: #486 realwest

George Soros as Ernst Stavros Blofeld, the Mahdi 666, a time when the San Francisco Chronicle was a real newspaper, and a B'ambulance.

Other then that, not much.

498 looking closely  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:49:16pm

re: #441 nigella

Looking closely, it's not the mistake Obama made that is the issue here, it is the reaction of the MSM to that mistake. We all heard about Dan Quayles" horrendous" blunder, so tell me where else other than the internet did you hear about Obamas"slip" of the tongue? Is that crickets I hear?


No argument, though personally since I largely avoid TV I wouldn't have heard it there anyway.

There is virtually no criticism of Obama from the mainstream media, who have "anointed" him (in nearly the literal sense) as their choice for President.

Consquently, almost ALL of the criticism of Obama is coming from the "Conservative" media (which is a few radio hosts, one TV station, and the internet).

Some of that criticism is legitimate, some of it isn't.

IMO, calling the guy "Hussein" and playing up a stupid gaffe about the number of states don't constitute substantial criticism of the guy. That stuff isn't likely to resonate among anyone objective (if there are, indeed anyone like that left).

Criticisms of the guy's voting record (the most liberal in the US Senate), his leftist foreign policy that puts him squarely in the Carter camp, his incredibly poor judgment in choosing political advisors and "spiritual mentors", and other issues that speak to his judgment and character are more important, I think.

499 laZardo  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:49:20pm

re: #488 lobo91

King Abdullah of Jordan is a Trekkie.

500 wolfie  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:49:20pm

re: #486 realwest

Hey Y'all - know I'm late again, what have I missed?!

Ahmadinejad rap dancing and the Hidden Imam falling from the sky!

501 ratherdashing  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:49:25pm

re: #438 Intrepid

I know this is just another link... but here is a flash presentation to get you started:

The History of Israel in a Nutshell


(I'm in the same boat as you)

502 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:50:13pm

re: #461 pat

That's a very important step. I recommend making that decision as often as possible.

503 slokat  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:50:38pm

re: #490 savage_nation

ooo! predict how's he's going to describe you?

504 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:51:07pm

re: #471 looking closely

And what if Israel's intelligence is faulty, or its attempt to stop Iran fails? Then what?

I take Ahmedinjad for exactly what he is- All talk. When he threatens Israel, he's not talking to Israel or the USA, he's talking to the muslim world. Again, the comparison between Iran and Nazi Germany is laughable. Hitler had the vast majority of Germans believing the Nazi propaganda. The vast majority of Iranians detest Ahmedinjad and the mullahs who rule Iran. Their days are numbered, and they know it.

505 Mich-again  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:51:28pm

We have a gerbil in a cage sitting on a table next to the computer stand that I sit at late nights posting. Funny. The crazy little guy is exercising in his wheel right now going 100 mph and all I can think of are those LGF hamsters toiling away. If there was really a Hamster wheel that was hooked up to an electric generator I'd buy one and unhook the house from the grid.

506 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:51:44pm
507 laZardo  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:52:02pm

re: #504 Bob in Breckenridge

They as in the people who detest the mullahs? The Ayatollahs just need a few more crane trucks...

508 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:52:26pm

Shocka: ALERT: A New Message From Osama Bin Laden Is on the Way

An radical jihadist Web site has announced that a new message from al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden is forthcoming.

A banner announcing the message says he will address the 60th anniversary of Israel. His message is titled, "The reasons for the struggle in the remembrance of the 60th anniversary of the rising of the occupier nation of Israel."

*Yawn*

509 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:52:57pm

I'm glad that as a Catholic I believe that this world is ruled by the "Prince of this World"

I would be ashamed to say that "My Man" (whomever it is) is in charge of this filthy mess!

lol

Ruler is as worshiper does.

510 laZardo  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:53:26pm

re: #509 MigueldowninMexico

Buenos dias, Mig!

511 Syrah  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:53:45pm

re: #495 pat

Nukes are complex devices. Some day, when they figure out that they plans that they stole from us detailing how to light the fuse with a Zippo was planted to throw them off track, they could be really dangerous.

512 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:53:59pm
513 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:54:14pm

re: #505 Mich-again

I built one for my cats inspired by this. They love it.

514 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:54:19pm

re: #510 laZardo

Buenos dias, Mig!

Mabuhay laZardo! :)

515 pat  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:54:37pm

re: #508 Killgore Trout

Shocka: ALERT: A New Message From Osama Bin Laden Is on the Way

*Yawn*

Wonder how many time we have to see him with that silly cane? Better to show the tape where he was loaded and bragging about 9/11. "Party on!"

516 mikeinmd  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:55:15pm

Hezbollah lifts Beirut street blockades

"Beirut is for all. It is not for a party over another and it is not for one group over another," Hezbollah's deputy secretary-general, Sheik Naim Qassem, said on Lebanese television Thursday.

HAHAHA, How they say this shit with a straight face I'll never know.
Those are gov't bulldozers, friend, no doubt about who's in charge.

517 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:55:18pm

re: #483 Neo Con since 9-11

A failed nuke is still a dirty bomb. They'd be happy either way.

Sure they could. They'd just let the norks do it for them.

518 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:55:21pm

re: #512 savage_nation

Hola amigo!

Hola savage!
Where about are you today, wandering man?
lol

519 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:56:07pm
520 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:56:09pm
521 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:56:28pm

re: #507 laZardo

They as in the people who detest the mullahs? The Ayatollahs just need a few more crane trucks...

Once the mullahs started picking who is allowed to run for office, they literally cooked their own goose, but doing it their way meant they'd survive a little longer.

522 wolfie  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:56:34pm

re: #509 MigueldowninMexico

I'm glad that as a Catholic I believe that this world is ruled by the "Prince of this World"

I would be ashamed to say that "My Man" (whomever it is) is in charge of this filthy mess!

lol

Ruler is as worshiper does.

Some of the comments upthread have suggested that the Hidden Imam may, indeed, be the Prince of this World!

523 Macker  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:56:35pm

re: #504 Bob in Breckenridge

I take Ahmedinjad for exactly what he is- All talk. When he threatens Israel, he's not talking to Israel or the USA, he's talking to the muslim world. Again, the comparison between Iran and Nazi Germany is laughable. Hitler had the vast majority of Germans believing the Nazi propaganda. The vast majority of Iranians detest Ahmedinjad and the mullahs who rule Iran. Their days are numbered, and they know it.

Then the Iranian People better get up off their asses and depose the mullahs and Mr. Dinner Jacket...or else it'll be done by someone else!

524 Mich-again  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:56:42pm

When Iran has a spectacular work accident, it will be hard to tell if maybe it was a US Cruise missile that blew the place up or if it was just incompetence on their part. Thats why when we do eventually blow up Satan's workshop, we ought to just pretend to be as shocked as everyone else. Heck, maybe even offer to send aid. Terrorize the terrorists!

525 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:57:01pm

re: #520 savage_nation

I'm in Houston TX. Just met jaunte face to face in person.

I didnt know the dude was 6'4" !

Six four! Wow, he's a quite a tall fellow! lol

I haven't met another lizard in person yet.
It must be great! :)

526 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:57:57pm

re: #522 wolfie

Some of the comments upthread have suggested that the Hidden Imam may, indeed, be the Prince of this World!

I wouldn't doubt it for a second!
Just look at the mess the world is in lol
It sure has the seal ;)

527 Macker  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:58:38pm

re: #525 MigueldowninMexico

I met Kirly last fall at the AZ 9/11 Memorial Protest.

528 slokat  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:58:39pm

KT - I posted a pic of sedimentary rock on the beach (that I should've probably saved for an evo/ation) on the first open thread this afternoon. (It comes up in the links for that thread if you want to short cut)

Sometimes it's just as hard to figure out the past, as it is to see the future? IMHO

529 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:59:08pm
530 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:59:36pm

re: #469 Bob in Breckenridge

Again, a nuke is not an IED, where you just press a button and it explodes. First of all, they'd have to test it to make sure it works. No way they could do that without the world knowing.

Sure they could. They'd just let the norks do it for them.

(This supercedes my post shortly before this one. I quoted the wrong message.)

531 gop_patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 8:59:40pm

re: #525 MigueldowninMexico

I've hung out with LeePro twice. :)

532 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:00:00pm
533 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:00:03pm

re: #527 Macker

I met Kirly last fall at the AZ 9/11 Memorial Protest.

Oh, you lucky one! lol

She's a very nice lizardette, I'm sure you had great time together :)

Congratulations to you'se all and all the people at the protest!

534 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:00:13pm

re: #504 Bob in Breckenridge

I take Ahmedinjad for exactly what he is- All talk. When he threatens Israel, he's not talking to Israel or the USA, he's talking to the muslim world. Again, the comparison between Iran and Nazi Germany is laughable. Hitler had the vast majority of Germans believing the Nazi propaganda. The vast majority of Iranians detest Ahmedinjad and the mullahs who rule Iran. Their days are numbered, and they know it.

It is never a good idea to underestimate your enemy. Assume the battle will be harder than you think. That way, you win.

535 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:00:20pm

re: #523 Macker

Then the Iranian People better get up off their asses and depose the mullahs and Mr. Dinner Jacket...or else it'll be done by someone else!

Whatever it takes. My whole point is that Iran will NEVER have a nuclear weapon. It will not be allowed to happen.

536 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:00:45pm

re: #529 savage_nation

I've met DesertSage, BenZacharia, Pvt BinJammin and now jaunte.

It's fun putting faces to usernames

One of the advantages of traveling so much ;)

Do you have any news about Ben's wife?

537 laZardo  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:00:46pm

re: #521 Bob in Breckenridge

But given the media bias these days, it'll only take a few more crane trucks to seal the deal within Iran. The media will do the rest.

538 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:01:00pm

I'm done. It's official; I won't be voting in the next election......

Exclusive Video: McCain Was For Talking To Hamas Before He Was Against It...

McCAIN: "They're the government; sooner or later we are going to have to deal with them, one way or another, and I understand why this administration and previous administrations had such antipathy towards Hamas because of their dedication to violence and the things that they not only espouse but practice, so . . . but it's a new reality in the Middle East. I think the lesson is people want security and a decent life and decent future, that they want democracy. Fatah was not giving them that."

McCain can go fuck himself. I've had enough.

539 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:01:13pm
540 looking closely  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:01:25pm

re: #495 pat

As for Iran, it will have to test. And anyone who thinks that a good test equals an arsenal is a fool. it means you are at the threshold. Only one nation has the computer capacity to test via modeling, and even the USA has lots of head scratchers, even with those ChiCom spies trying to help us out.


Let's say Iran did test.

Let's say the test failed. . .would we even know about a failed nuke test? I would imagine its quite possible that we would not.

Alternatively, let's say the test succeeds. . .would it then be safe to assume that Iran couldn't IMMEDIATELY detonate more weapons (or fairly quickly assemble more working weapons)?

OK, *probably* they couldn't. . .but how certain could you be about that? I think you'd have to assume that there was at least some non-zero possibility that they did have that ability.

Then what do you do?

541 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:01:33pm

re: #531 gop_patriot

I've hung out with LeePro twice. :)

Another lucky one lol
Do you live in the same area of the country?

542 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:01:38pm
543 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:02:03pm
544 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:02:03pm

re: #539 song_and_dance_man

There was an LGF meet in Santa Monica 3 years ago and there about 20 or so of us there.

Gee that's like a dream lol

545 Mich-again  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:02:31pm

re: #525 MigueldowninMexico


I haven't met another lizard in person yet.

If you are near here you can come watch my band play at a bar in Dearborn Heights tomorrow night. Ha. One Lizard and three redneck Democrats!

Anyone interested, shoot me an e-mail. It would be cool to actually meet some of all yall.

546 slokat  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:02:52pm

re: #509 MigueldowninMexico

...well the muslims claim that there are real Jesus & fake Jesus, only they know the difference.

Of course, we are all following the fake one...

547 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:03:22pm

re: #538 Killgore Trout

I still insist that a vote for McCain is still better than one for any of the other two.

If someone doesn't vote for Mc. Then, it's half a vote for the dem nominee.

548 gop_patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:03:42pm

re: #541 MigueldowninMexico

Another lucky one lol
Do you live in the same area of the country?

We're both from Memphis, but I live in Arkansas currently. I go home alot to visit family. :)

549 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:04:11pm

re: #543 savage_nation

I havent heard a thing.

Thanks!

550 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:04:45pm
551 Timbre  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:04:45pm

Among the Shia are Fivers, Seveners, and Twelvers. I myself am a 2112er. I believe Geddy, Alex, and Neil will come back (May They Never Leave) and rule the world from Lakeside Park!

552 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:04:59pm

re: #545 Mich-again

If you are near here you can come watch my band play at a bar in Dearborn Heights tomorrow night. Ha. One Lizard and three redneck Democrats!

Anyone interested, shoot me an e-mail. It would be cool to actually meet some of all yall.

Is that around chicago?

553 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:05:59pm

re: #546 slokat

...well the muslims claim that there are real Jesus & fake Jesus, only they know the difference.

Of course, we are all following the fake one...

Yes, of course.
But we're following the right Mahdi au meme temp ;)

554 mikeinmd  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:06:21pm

re: #538 Killgore Trout

On that note, I'm gonna plug in the kids' kill box and blow some shit up before blood shoots out of my eyes....

Is there no one ?

Echo

555 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:06:28pm

re: #547 MigueldowninMexico

I still insist that a vote for McCain is still better than one for any of the other two.

If someone doesn't vote for Mc. Then, it's half a vote for the dem nominee.


I think I'm willing to take the chance at this point. McCain is no better nor no worse than Obama. They're both going to raise our taxes and they're both going to appease terrorists. Unless someone can find that this clip is out of context or fake I'll take my chances with Obama. There's not a shred of difference between the two.

556 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:06:28pm
557 rawmuse  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:06:56pm

Lizards in the SF Area, I play at a jazz club every Wed. night. This is the club that got sold, but the new owners are keeping the band. Yay!

558 pat  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:07:04pm

re: #540 looking closely

Let's say Iran did test.

Let's say the test failed. . .would we even know about a failed nuke test? I would imagine its quite possible that we would not.

Alternatively, let's say the test succeeds. . .would it then be safe to assume that Iran couldn't IMMEDIATELY detonate more weapons (or fairly quickly assemble more working weapons)?

OK, *probably* they couldn't. . .but how certain could you be about that? I think you'd have to assume that there was at least some non-zero possibility that they did have that ability.

Then what do you do?

It is a bit more complex than that. China, for instance, which is building nuke reactors like the US establishes Peace Institutes in colleges, has less than 300 bombs that they can rely on. And those are being rebuilt, constantly. Even in the USA, we cannibalize older weapons to make modern ones. The triggers, the tritium, the plutonium, etc are all issues. in the case of Iran, we are dealing with a likely bomb that they must deliver in a truck.

559 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:07:25pm

re: #554 mikeinmd

I plan to spend a lot of time doing that over the next four years. Good for you.

560 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:07:42pm

re: #548 gop_patriot

We're both from Memphis, but I live in Arkansas currently. I go home alot to visit family. :)

Ohhhhhh GRACELAND.

/Showing no colors here.

Memphis most be a great city.

/Long distance information, give me Memphis Tennessee...
Johnny Rivers lol

I'm sure you too had a wonderful time, two great lizardettes together ;)

561 pat  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:07:58pm

Hola, Miguel!

562 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:09:20pm
563 pat  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:09:27pm

When I retire, if. I am going to do research in a very obscure area. Already picked out. It will not be read for 20 years. lol

564 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:09:38pm

re: #556 song_and_dance_man

It was nice. Actually it was 4 years ago. There was another one the next year and I couldn't make it. And I regret it since zulubaby made that one.

I remember there used to be several lizard meetings a year, at different places, maybe up to a couple of years ago.
I don't know why they've stopped.

565 formercorpsman  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:10:02pm

Yes, but the Flyers pulled one off tonight.

I should go more often, they usually win when I do.

566 Biff  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:10:18pm

Obama's father abandoned him at age two. He feels a constant need to reach out to distant, powerful men and seek resolution. He takes generally directed criticism very personally. He has real unresolved issues. He has internalized these feelings and believes that his fairly privileged background is somehow similar to the American black experience, and even worse, the plight of the Palestinians. He is the product of a Kenyan alcoholic polygamous father and an American ex-pat hippie mom, raised first by his muslim step-father in Indonesia, then by his white grandparents as a prep school stoner in Hawaii, only to discover his blackness at radical Occidental College, and then in Chicago at the feet of his new father-figure Reverand Wright. He needs a therapist, not the Presidency.

567 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:10:31pm

re: #557 rawmuse

Lizards in the SF Area, I play at a jazz club every Wed. night. This is the club that got sold, but the new owners are keeping the band. Yay!

Tell the horrendous zombie ;)

568 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:10:42pm

re: #538 Killgore Trout

I'm done. It's official; I won't be voting in the next election......

Exclusive Video: McCain Was For Talking To Hamas Before He Was Against It...


McCain can go fuck himself. I've had enough.

The quotes say nothing about being willing to talk to Hamas at all. If that was the money quote, it's meaningless. The headline is utterly false unless the video confirms that he would meet with them.

OK, I just watched the video. The headline is a bald-faced lie. At no point does McCain say he'd be willing to meet with Hamas, period.

You might want to stay home though. It's pretty clear you're on the razor's edge.

569 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:10:59pm

re: #561 pat

Hola, Miguel!

Aloha waikiki! ;)

570 gop_patriot  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:11:22pm

re: #542 savage_nation

Damn, I was trying to get in touch with her. I was in Olive Branch last night. And remind me to never take the rig down Germantown Road during rush hour! yikes, they cant drive for shit there.

Aw, too bad! I'm sure she will be irritated that she missed you.

And LOL about G'town Road. No kidding. I grew up right near that road, out towards Cordova. When I started driving, it was a two lane road... :X

571 WayDownSouthInBama  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:11:22pm

re: #551 Timbre

Among the Shia are Fivers, Seveners, and Twelvers. I myself am a 2112er. I believe Geddy, Alex, and Neil will come back (May They Never Leave) and rule the world from Lakeside Park!

Neil KNOWS drums! I'd take RUSH over ABeenAJerks hidden iPod any day.

572 Mich-again  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:11:23pm

re: #547 MigueldowninMexico

I think McCain will win if he picks the right running mate. But who is that person.

If he goes to far to the right, he will lose some of the middle ground. If he goes too far to the left, he will lose some of the RW conservatives.

I threw out the notion here a long time ago that Lieberman would be an interesting running mate for McCain. They would own the middle. But that might just invite a Paulian 3rd party run and like Ross Perot did, he would only help the Dems win.

If McCain goes too far to the right, then he will surrender the middle ground to Obama/Clinton.

The race is too close to call until we know who the running mates are.

573 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:11:58pm

re: #562 savage_nation

Graceland is an a shit area. Run down hellhole.

Hmmmm. I'm glad I'm just a borderline Presleyian.
I'm sure that area used to be a lot better way back when...

574 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:12:50pm

re: #563 pat

When I retire, if. I am going to do research in a very obscure area. Already picked out. It will not be read for 20 years. lol

North Pole in January. South Pole in July.

575 realwest  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:13:00pm

re: #489 Mich-again
Hey hi Mich! Sorry for the delay in answering but we're having rain storms down here and whenever there's too much humidity (let alone rain) in the air, Time-Warner Cable get the heebie - jeebies and conks out from time to time!

576 formercorpsman  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:13:40pm

The one thing I don;t think I have heard any pundit square up, is the fact Obama is stating his preference to meet with A-jad.

This being the same A-jad who embraced, (IIRC) David Duke at the conference in Tehran.

I know I am preaching to crowd, but this does not jive.

577 pat  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:14:26pm

re: #566 Biff

Oooo. Send that to Dr Sanity. She might agree. Serious.
[Link: drsanity.blogspot.com...]

578 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:14:33pm
579 Mich-again  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:15:18pm

re: #566 Biff

He needs a therapist, not the Presidency.

True.

580 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:15:38pm

re: #572 Mich-again

I guess, anyway, it's still to early to tell, right?

We constantly forget there is still almost half a year to the big one in November.

581 pat  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:15:51pm

re: #574 MigueldowninMexico

North Pole in January. South Pole in July.

Actually it was the reproductive habits and methods of the Mexican Jumping Bean. ;)

582 wee fury  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:15:55pm

Graceland is in a run-down part of town. But, not that crummy. It is a cool place to visit. Especially Beale Street on Motorcycle night. The music and the bikes are remarkable.

583 realwest  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:16:02pm

re: #490 savage_nation

re: #491 rawmuse

re: #492 gop_patriot
Hey there all y'all - sorry for the group response but if you see my #575 you'll know why - can't tell how long I'll be able to stay on line!
It's good to see each of you out here!

584 UncleSam  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:16:24pm

Charles: Kinda OT, but it would be useful if, besides the "+" and "-" comment rating buttons, there were a "?" for when you can't figure out what the hell the poster is talking about.

585 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:16:29pm
586 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:16:47pm

re: #558 pat

It is a bit more complex than that. China, for instance, which is building nuke reactors like the US establishes Peace Institutes in colleges, has less than 300 bombs that they can rely on. And those are being rebuilt, constantly. Even in the USA, we cannibalize older weapons to make modern ones. The triggers, the tritium, the plutonium, etc are all issues. in the case of Iran, we are dealing with a likely bomb that they must deliver in a truck.

Yep, and they'll just drive that truck right into the middle of Israel, push a button, and KABOOM!, right?
I'm not buying that. First of all, a truck with a nuke on it would cause all sorts of warning systems the Israelis have in place to alert them. They might be able to hide the nuke on the truck, but the various instruments I'm certain Israel has all over its borders would detect a radioactive presence.

587 slokat  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:16:58pm

re: #554 mikeinmd


Which box? First Person Shooter favorite?

588 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:17:01pm

re: #581 pat

Actually it was the reproductive habits and methods of the Mexican Jumping Bean. ;)

Hahahahahaha...

589 realwest  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:17:11pm

re: #497 Syrah A B'Ambulance? Ah jeez, not another Obama supporter with nothing worthwhile to say!
What was this one's nic?!

590 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:17:41pm

re: #576 formercorpsman

The one thing I don;t think I have heard any pundit square up, is the fact Obama is stating his preference to meet with A-jad.

This being the same A-jad who embraced, (IIRC) David Duke at the conference in Tehran.

I know I am preaching to crowd, but this does not jive.

If you've been following the threads here and the research behind them, then you already no that is just the tip of a large iceberg. I said a couple of days ago that Obama is basically unelectable, and that still stands. When it gets down to McCain versus Obama, that fool won't stand a chance. There's dirty laundry from here to Nanking.

McCain may be an appeaser of the more moderate dems, but he's not an activist for the destruction of America.

591 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:17:57pm
592 Mich-again  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:18:06pm

re: #575 realwest

Don't ever worry about trifles like that. You are one of my oldest homeboys here. So many come and go, but you are a rock.

593 realwest  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:18:13pm

re: #500 wolfie LOL! How are you doing my friend?!

594 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:18:24pm

re: #583 realwest

Hello realwest! :)
At least I had time to greet you! ;)

595 pat  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:18:51pm

re: #586 Bob in Breckenridge

Oh sure. Canada, America, Russia, Britain. All have such. And weight scales that give unusual readings.

596 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:19:00pm

re: #585 savage_nation

Mike, 20 weeks till I meet my grandchild for the first time. :D

Is she due by then?

/Nervous...

597 realwest  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:19:33pm

re: #509 MigueldowninMexico HEY, Buenos Noches Amigo! Como Esta?

598 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:19:41pm

re: #572 Mich-again

The race is too close to call until we know who the running mates are.

Obama/ Amadenijad

McCain/Lieberman

599 Mich-again  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:20:19pm

re: #598 Kosh's Shadow

Obama/ Amadenijad

McCain/Lieberman

ROFLMAO!

600 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:20:33pm
601 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:20:46pm

re: #591 savage_nation

I dont know, I got shot at down there a few years ago. 2 bullet holes in the passenger side door.

Ugh! Glad you weren't hurt.

602 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:20:59pm

re: #586 Bob in Breckenridge

Yep, and they'll just drive that truck right into the middle of Israel, push a button, and KABOOM!, right?
I'm not buying that. First of all, a truck with a nuke on it would cause all sorts of warning systems the Israelis have in place to alert them. They might be able to hide the nuke on the truck, but the various instruments I'm certain Israel has all over its borders would detect a radioactive presence.

Iran already has some fairly sophisticated missile systems, and they have tens of thousands of US-trained engineers. They have the assistance of the norks, and we really aren't sure who else.

There's one golden rule regarding the detonation of a single nasty nuke. You can't afford to take anything for granted.

603 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:21:08pm

re: #597 realwest

HEY, Buenos Noches Amigo! Como Esta?

Bien gracias, y tu?

604 looking closely  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:21:28pm

re: #504 Bob in Breckenridge

I take Ahmedinjad for exactly what he is- All talk. When he threatens Israel, he's not talking to Israel or the USA, he's talking to the muslim world.


Wasn't Hitler also "all talk" in 1925? And who was he talking to then?

Again, the comparison between Iran and Nazi Germany is laughable.


The comparison was between Hitler and the Iranian regime, and in fact, I see the analogy as especially apt, given Iran's overt moves to be a regional hegemon, its clear nuclear ambition (paralleling Germany's illegal pre-war arms buildup), and the regime's glaring anti-Semitism.


Hitler had the vast majority of Germans believing the Nazi propaganda. The vast majority of Iranians detest Ahmedinjad and the mullahs who rule Iran. Their days are numbered, and they know it.


Eventually Hitler had a large base of support, but he didn't start off that way.

Didn't you just say that Iran had an audience among the Muslim world? Do you suppose its possible that that audience or his influence could expland in time?

You say the Iranian regime is on its last legs. . .very well, who is going to throw them out of power and when?

Now to be clear, I am NOT saying that another global war akin to WWII is inevitable, or even necessarily likely. Obviously you can't draw exact parallels between the Iranian regime and the rise of Nazi Germany. But the point is the comparison doesn't have to be exact for the threat from Iran to be real, and serious.

What I AM saying is that Ahmedinejad is a clever thug, with documented ambition to expand his power, obtain nuclear weapons, and destroy Israel. If left to his own devices, I see no reason whatever to believe he's not going to try to do exactly what he says he going to do.

605 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:21:31pm
606 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:22:02pm

re: #600 savage_nation

yes. I'm becoming a nervous wreck the closer it gets to October 3rd. She is getting her 2nd ultrasound on JUne 3rd

Keep me posted, please!
You'll be able to see the child by now, I think.

607 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:22:50pm
608 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:23:02pm

gop
Is "lizardette" a derogatory term?

609 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:23:34pm

re: #607 savage_nation

I'll keep you posted, of that I have no doubt.

/getting excited too...

I would be! lol

Hi gramps! lol

610 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:23:38pm
611 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:24:02pm

re: #610 savage_nation

I'll be back in a little while.

Ok.

612 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:24:30pm

re: #595 pat

Oh sure. Canada, America, Russia, Britain. All have such. And weight scales that give unusual readings.

That's just about the dumbest analogy I've ever heard.

613 realwest  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:25:53pm

re: #538 Killgore Trout
Oh crap Killgore - that video was two years ago and everything McCain had said about Hamas before and since has been good.
And Obama has all of these wierd (to put it mildly) "associations" TODAY that we need to worry about.
Geez, when even Killgore goes over to the dark side............sorta...............crap.

614 Dustyvet  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:26:09pm

The hand of God is about to emerge and eradicate the injustice in the world.


Well, if I where dinner jacket I'd plan on staying indoors during thunder storms...

615 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:26:11pm

I'm jumping to the lattest thread.
(AKA the Dead Thread)

616 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:27:25pm

re: #608 MigueldowninMexico

gop
Is "lizardette" a derogatory term?

No.

617 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:29:22pm

re: #590 really grumpy big dog Johnson

If you've been following the threads here and the research behind them, then you already no that is just the tip of a large iceberg. I said a couple of days ago that Obama is basically unelectable, and that still stands. When it gets down to McCain versus Obama, that fool won't stand a chance. There's dirty laundry from here to Nanking.

What happens to dirty laundry when the media carries water to it?

What happens to dirty laundry when half of this country is dying to cash in on white guilt and vote for somebody brown just because he's there?

Never underestimate the stupidity of Americans in large groups. We had Carter, we had Clinton, and now we're going to f-cking do it again.

618 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:30:16pm

re: #613 realwest

Sorry, Real. There are things people say to get elected and there are things that people believe. McCain does what he believes, he always has and he always will. I respect him for sticking to his principles but I don't have to respect his principles. I pretty sure I'm done with McCain.

619 looking closely  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:30:57pm

re: #555 Killgore Trout

I think I'm willing to take the chance at this point. McCain is no better nor no worse than Obama. They're both going to raise our taxes and they're both going to appease terrorists. Unless someone can find that this clip is out of context or fake I'll take my chances with Obama. There's not a shred of difference between the two.

That's simply incorrect (and its frankly the kind of BS being pushed by numbnuts like Rush). McCain may not be the poster child for Conservatism, but there are pretty wide gap differences between McCain and either of the two Dem Candidates. Their voting records are miles apart.

McCain is running on a platform to LOWER taxes. He wants to maintain the Bush tax cuts, and decrease the corporate income tax.

Now whether he can actually pull this off in a strong Dem majority Congress is another matter, but I do believe he'll try (and he'll probably succeed in the first thing, if not the second).

But have no doubt whatever, that Obama would SUCCEED in the most massive tax increase in American history after reversing the Bush tax cuts, then increasing them past pre-Bush levels (as he promises to do).

Another massive difference is in likely US Supreme Court nominees. With Obama, you can expect nothing less than the most liberal possible appointees.

McCain will at least TRY for conservative appointees, though his hands will be somewhat bound in getting them by the Dem majority Congress. But that would be true no matter WHO was President, even if you resurrected Reagan from the dead

Lastly, which one of the candidates joked about bombing Iran? Of the three of them, which of the three do you think would be most likely to use military force to stop Iran from getting a bomb? Which one of the three do you think might actually do ANYTHING to stop it from happening?

620 realwest  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:31:18pm

re: #592 Mich-again Why thank you Mich! And just for that nice compliment here's an appropriate tune for ya:
[Link: www.imeem.com...]

621 Dustyvet  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:31:22pm

The hand of God is about to emerge and eradicate the injustice in the world.

Like this injustice?

[Link: www.ukgaynews.org.uk...]

622 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:32:30pm

re: #604 looking closely

You're making the same mistake others have. This is NOT 1933, nor 1925. Back then governments could control what was allowed to be fed to the masses via newspapers or radios.
The mullahs have attempted to crack down on internet cafes in Iran, but for every one they shut down 3 others open with out their knowledge. And you have to remember that the majority of Iranians are under 25 and love the USA, and detest their government.

623 realwest  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:33:19pm

re: #603 MigueldowninMexico Asi, asi (I sure hope that's Spanish for so, so! LOL!). Better now that I've had the chance to say hi to you again out here!

624 pat  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:33:51pm

re: #612 Bob in Breckenridge

That's just about the dumbest analogy I've ever heard.

That is not an analogy. There are in fact radiation detectors at all the major ports and airports of the countries I mentioned. In addition there are scales that can weigh trucks for anomalous weight distribution. I was agreeing with you. Interestingly enough, many have such for outgoing cargo. Ukraine would be such an example. We must be talking past each other.

625 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:34:45pm

re: #619 looking closely

Actually, do you even listen to Rush? He's never said anything like that.

626 zickyzacky  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:39:37pm

Wow! hidden Imam, you sure did find a great hiding place, but Hide and Seek has been over for 1400 years. Game is over. Come on out now and try to reach the goal. We're waiting!

627 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:39:48pm

re: #624 pat

I'm talking about ISRAEL! Not the USA, Canada, UK, etc. The Israelis tend to take security a little more seriously (with good reason) than our country or those other countries.
Ever fly on El Al as compared to American Airlines, British Airways, or Air Canada? Notice any difference when trying to board an El Al aircraft?

628 formercorpsman  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:44:16pm

re: #590 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Sorry for a late response, (I was responding to some folks on the California thread from earlier)

I think your right. For those of us who have invested the time to actually scrutinized this guys record, it would seem near impossible he should be where he is now.

IMO, one of the telling aspects of his character, is just like Bill, he does not handle criticism well. He loses his cool.

This would almost have to certainly manifest itself, if someone like a John Stossel, or halfway leaning investigator really wanted to review his connections.

I do find at times, especially when I peruse Drudge and see the someone estimating a Republic loss of 70 plus seats it can be depressing. Parsing this with the thought of Obama actually getting parked on Pennsylvania Avenue, produces fear.

I hope you are correct. There is a part of me that says, with all of his baggage, there could be no way for him to get in, it's way too obvious.

But at times, I still wonder, how the hell did he get to the point where he is at now?

629 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:44:55pm

re: #617 Pawn of the Oppressor

What happens to dirty laundry when the media carries water to it?

What happens to dirty laundry when half of this country is dying to cash in on white guilt and vote for somebody brown just because he's there?

Never underestimate the stupidity of Americans in large groups. We had Carter, we had Clinton, and now we're going to f-cking do it again.

Different presidential races, different times. The internet media was a non-entity then, today there are thousands of people who will be monitoring the race. You can look that the positives and the negatives all you want, but when it comes down to marking the ballot, the people will go for the person that they believe they can trust to not sell our country down the river.

The one thing the MSM has persistently underestimated in this race is the power of the people. I trust that we will make the right choice. There's way too much at stake here. Even the dems know full well that they've worn bush hatred for so long that their arguments have gone stale. Obama is clearly identified as the white shining knight in new armor, but it's getting rustier all the time.

Twenty years ago that wouldn't have been the case, we'd have bought the koolaid and made the horrible choice. Even if we think we don't have any great or good choices, we have a better one. And a lot of people will know that to be true.

JFK brought us closer to all-out nuclear war than any president before or since. If we had the sources of information then that we have now, he might not have been elected. I'm not claiming he was a horrible president, but nobody can compare Obama to JFK. He's not close to being in that class. And that along with his dirty laundry, his arrogance, and his refusal to truly open up to the American people will doom him.

630 Dustyvet  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:46:52pm

"The Iranian President ... is coming to New York, but he's been denied permission to go to Ground Zero in New York City. He wanted to go to Ground Zero. I got an idea. Is there any way we can bring Ground Zero to him?" --Jay Leno

631 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:47:32pm

re: #619 looking closely

McCain is running on a platform to LOWER taxes. He wants to maintain the Bush tax cuts, and decrease the corporate income tax.


McCain voted against the Bush tax cuts and voted against renewing them. He's not going to make them permanent. He's a man of principle. He's never seen a tax hike he didn't like. You have to be able to distinguish between campaign promises and reality.

632 LeePro  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:48:12pm

re: #542 savage_nation

Damn, I was trying to get in touch with her. I was in Olive Branch last night. And remind me to never take the rig down Germantown Road during rush hour! yikes, they cant drive for shit there.

Well, damn here, too. Re-checked my email from yesterday/last night... not a single one from you! Must've gotten lost in cyberspace...

/sad
¦’·[

633 Mich-again  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:49:39pm

re: #620 realwest

Forget about the title of this song. Just listen.

I dropped the bomb on Japan
I was a hostage in Iran
I'm the ugly American
Now I'm a Government man, A Government man..

634 looking closely  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:51:50pm

re: #586 Bob in Breckenridge

Yep, and they'll just drive that truck right into the middle of Israel, push a button, and KABOOM!, right?
I'm not buying that. First of all, a truck with a nuke on it would cause all sorts of warning systems the Israelis have in place to alert them. They might be able to hide the nuke on the truck, but the various instruments I'm certain Israel has all over its borders would detect a radioactive presence.

Iran has no problem stocking missles in Southern Lebanon via its proxy Hizb'Allah, only 130 miles from Tel Aviv and only about 20 miles from Haifa.

Remember Israel wasn't able to prevent Hizb'Allah soldiers from literally sneaking across the border into Israel and kidnapping two Israeli soldiers, and Hizb'Allah built secret bunkers right up against the Israeli border.

635 rorschach  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:53:00pm

I think I just saw the Hidden Emu on the season finale of Supernatural.

It's u-u-u-gly.

636 formercorpsman  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:57:04pm

re: #629 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Did you get a chance to read Ayatollah's piece?

[Link: neoconmadrassa.blogspot.com...]

I thought it was very sobering.

637 IPLaw  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:57:37pm

The hidden imam is hiding behind . . . Barack's ears . . . it all makes sense now! I can finally enter dhimmitude in peace.

638 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 15, 2008 9:59:19pm

re: #631 Killgore Trout

McCain voted against the Bush tax cuts and voted against renewing them. He's not going to make them permanent. He's a man of principle. He's never seen a tax hike he didn't like. You have to be able to distinguish between campaign promises and reality.

OK, now give us your takes on Clinton and Obama, two of the biggest supporters of big government and spending earmarks you could find.

McCain says he will not sign any spending bill with earmarks, period. He says he will not raise taxes. He says he will reform the methods by which we will encourage energy development, and will encourage sound commonsense practices toward making American energy independent. He wants to use state incentives to get off-shore drilling. He doesn't want drilling in ANWAR. Big deal, it's a drop in the bucket. He supports the right to life, and most conservatives do not approve of his immigration reform and border control initiatives. Big hairy deal.

He wins because he offers what people want most. When people say they want change, that's because they don't know what the hell they want. Among those who understand what is needed, there is no alternative candidate.

639 pat  Thu, May 15, 2008 10:00:46pm

re: #631 Killgore Trout

Ditto

640 LeePro  Thu, May 15, 2008 10:02:45pm

re: #548 gop_patriot

We're both from Memphis, but I live in Arkansas currently. I go home alot to visit family. :)

Hi {gop}!

I've located a few more Memphis (-area) Lizards... AmeriDan, Memphis, Dar ul Harb... all are eager to meet up... when is a whole 'nother thing.

Counting you and me, that's FIVE LIZARDS ON THE RIVER (coined by AmeriDan!)

Still can't eat. AmeriDan suggested we meet up first time just for drinks (I am currently 19 years sober) or coffee.

641 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 15, 2008 10:04:03pm
642 Areopagitica  Thu, May 15, 2008 10:05:05pm

Frickin leftists.....I'd pay money to see a claymation of Obama v. Winston Churchill in Celebrity Deathmatch.

I've heard all these obamaniks talk about how evil Bush is, how he is a war criminal and how we kept a dialog open with the Russians during the cold war.

No one has failed to mention that the Russians, like us, did not want to suffer their own nuclear annihilation. Despite our differing political ideologies, they were rational thinking people to this degree.

Mr. Dinnerjacket, Hezbollah, Hamas, PIJ, these groups and people are not rational thinking, therefore they cannot engage in a rational discussion. They hate us on a deep religious level, they believe that it is their religious duty or Jihad, to kill us.

You know, they can argue all they want about whether Bush meant to jab Obama this morning, but for such a liberal poobah, what would Obama say to a man who told an audience at Columbia that there were no homosexuals in Iran? A man who denies the greatest act of mass murder to ever occur in modern history ever took place, a man whose country's courts have a fetish for hanging people and thee leader of a country that is actively trying to kill our own military personnel?

You know, I think Obama is steering a dangerous path and the comparisons to Neville Chamberlin are more than apt. I think that some democrats may be a bit frightened that Obama is the putative nominee.

643 LeePro  Thu, May 15, 2008 10:05:45pm

re: #551 Timbre

Among the Shia are Fivers, Seveners, and Twelvers. I myself am a 2112er. I believe Geddy, Alex, and Neil will come back (May They Never Leave) and rule the world from Lakeside Park!

Ummm...
I haven't read this entire thread, but what the hell are you talking about?

644 looking closely  Thu, May 15, 2008 10:06:24pm

re: #622 Bob in Breckenridge

You're making the same mistake others have. This is NOT 1933, nor 1925. Back then governments could control what was allowed to be fed to the masses via newspapers or radios.
The mullahs have attempted to crack down on internet cafes in Iran, but for every one they shut down 3 others open with out their knowledge. And you have to remember that the majority of Iranians are under 25 and love the USA, and detest their government.


And what "mistake" have I made?

Hitler had no control over ANY gov't in 1925. He was in prison at the time and most of the country thought he was a kook. In fact, Hitler only won 30% of the electorate in the vote that ultimately led to him seizing power, and the Nazi Party never won more than 37% of the vote. In fact Hitler NEVER had majority support, not even close.

Regardless, since when does a gov't need majority support to develop or launch nuclear weapons?

Also, please explain how Iranian internet cafes are going to stop the Iranian mullahs from acquiring nukes and using them to expand their hegemony or destroy Israel, because I admit, I'm having trouble seeing it.

And you haven't answered a single one of my questions.

Are Iran's hardened underground bunkers and spinning centrifuges
a. "all talk"? or
b. Something OTHER than "all talk"?

Why should anyone assume that left to their own devices, the Iranian leadership isn't going to do EXACTLY what it says it is going to do?

When is this mythical second Iranian revolution going to happen and what's going to trigger it?

645 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 15, 2008 10:11:48pm

re: #636 formercorpsman

Did you get a chance to read Ayatollah's piece?

[Link: neoconmadrassa.blogspot.com...]

I thought it was very sobering.

Great article corpsman. I didn't have time to read it all right now, so I skimmed some of it. Very sound thinking there. But if Israel is threatened, it's unlikely that the USA won't intervene in a very strong way. Not even Iran's military can even come close to challenging our warpower, and Syria and Co. are not even a real challenge in terms of military neutralization.

I'm sure that we will monitor this blueprint carefully for signs of predictable escalation, and with prior warning ignored, will escalate in kind. I cannot even fathom a US that won't protect Israel from annihilation, absolutely nothing outside our borders could possibly be more damaging to us from an international perspective.

Keep the positive thoughts, in spite of the alarming details. I worry all the time about this too. Those who laugh at Ahmadinejad may not have the last laugh. He acts crazy, but he's smart as a fox.

646 formercorpsman  Thu, May 15, 2008 10:13:56pm

re: #645 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Take it easy, I think I need to turn in for the night.

647 looking closely  Thu, May 15, 2008 10:15:51pm

re: #631 Killgore Trout

McCain voted against the Bush tax cuts and voted against renewing them. He's not going to make them permanent. He's a man of principle. He's never seen a tax hike he didn't like. You have to be able to distinguish between campaign promises and reality.


So when Obama promises to raise taxes, that's a fiction, but when McCain promises to maintain the status quo, that's a lie?

If McCain is a "man of principle" then why can't you take him at his word that he's going to fix the Bush tax cuts?

While its true that he hasn't always been consistently for LOWERING taxes, its unfair to characterize McCain as a person who "hasn't seen a tax hike he didn't like" considering that in his 20+ years in Congress the only tax he's ever voted to increase has been on cigarettes.

Here is a pretty good (and critical) overview of McCain's economic record:

[Link: www.clubforgrowth.org...]

Summing up briefly, he's been mostly against tax increases AND tax cuts, but pro-free trade and anti-waste.

648 LeePro  Thu, May 15, 2008 10:15:58pm

re: #560 MigueldowninMexico

Ohhhhhh GRACELAND.

/Showing no colors here.

Memphis most be a great city.

/Long distance information, give me Memphis Tennessee...
Johnny Rivers lol

I'm sure you too had a wonderful time, two great lizardettes together ;)

re: #562 savage_nation

Graceland is an a shit area. Run down hellhole.

You're right, Savage.
Graceland SUCKS! Elvis's LEGACY (not him, his legacy) sucks! Memphis is not Graceland and Elvis! ! !

Memphis used to be a grand ol' southern city, but has decayed a lot under the scum and corruption of the Ford family and their ilk. I believe the beauty and grace could return someday, but that would be under new and very different leadership (which doesn't seem likely any time soon).

649 LeePro  Thu, May 15, 2008 10:22:37pm

re: #573 MigueldowninMexico

Hmmmm. I'm glad I'm just a borderline Presleyian.
I'm sure that area used to be a lot better way back when...

Nope. Never has been. It's a crime-ridden, "garbage"-infested U.S. Highway that runs right through a chunk of western metro-Memphis, far,FAR from the more genteel midtown, east Memphis, or the 'burbs.

650 LeePro  Thu, May 15, 2008 10:26:10pm

re: #576 formercorpsman

I know I am preaching to crowd, but this does not jive.


It's "preaching to the choir"...

/Sorry. Hadda correct that. Uncontrollable impulse...

651 LeePro  Thu, May 15, 2008 10:31:32pm

re: #582 wee fury

Graceland is in a run-down part of town. But, not that crummy. It is a cool place to visit. Especially Beale Street on Motorcycle night. The music and the bikes are remarkable.

Yes it IS that crummy! See my #649 above.

And Beale Street is no where near Graceland!

652 londonpride  Thu, May 15, 2008 11:20:56pm

re: #31 Mich-again

If the Hidden Imam is on the Dinner Jacket's side, why does Iran need nukes?

He cant come back until a time of great carnage.

Its almost like he (dinner jacket) is trying to provoke a war.

/nah, hes not Republican

653 unknowner[deleted]  Fri, May 16, 2008 4:16:35am
654 kuffarharbi  Fri, May 16, 2008 4:45:19am

This guy exhibits all the characteristics of a typically deranged and psychotic cult leader. The concept of someone hidden, a saviour who will show himself at the right moment is an old chestnut among the superstitious, apocalyptic and esoteric loonies. And it always ends badly....for the cult. Iran needs some heavy duty cult busting treatment from the inside and the West should be working on this by supporting what subversives there are within their society. And bombarding them with satellite Radio free Iran. What do the CIA do these days? Play tiddlywinks? Tupperware parties? Knitting and crochet groups?

655 steveoh  Fri, May 16, 2008 5:05:12am

Here he is in his insane glory. A sick deranged man he is.
Ahmadinejad's World

656 tactical solutions  Fri, May 16, 2008 6:53:14am

Maybe it's just me but I always get the feeling "Hidden Imam" is Achmadenijad's euphemism for his "penis".

Why does this wacko keep talking about the power and might of his hidden imam in public. It's a bit creepy.

Let's just hope he keeps his "hidden imam" (wink wink) hidden in his pants.

657 Dad O' Blondes  Fri, May 16, 2008 7:44:56am

The hidden imam?

Is he like that "man behind the curtain" we're not supposed to pay any attention to?

.

658 GreenSoccer  Fri, May 16, 2008 10:39:21am

Does anyone know on what date the birthday of the hidden Imam falls this year? Every year I think that Ahmadinejad will launch a nuclear attack on Israel on that date. I want to tell relatives to not plan their trip to Israel to include that date. This year being Israel's 60'th birthday, I could see him trying it this year. Hopefully Israel thinks the same way I do and hopefully their plans are to not allow him to reach nuclear capability and missile capability by that date.

659 shiek al beif salami  Fri, May 16, 2008 1:31:47pm

Just more proof that there are more camel asses in the world than there are camels.

660 GreenSoccer  Sat, May 17, 2008 1:43:01pm

Regarding my question at comment 658, I not only want to know the hidden imam's birthday date in our US calendar in 2008, I would also like to know the hidden imam's birthday date in our US calendar for 2009.
I've decided that 2008 is most likely safe on that issue.


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