Douche!

he considers Iraq an illegal war.

Would he have considered it legal if France had approved it?

Punk!

Good luck with that.

He should have got out after his enlistment was over. Nobody to him to re-enlist.

"In the future, everyone will be a victim for 15 minutes."
Andy Warhol
El-Amin Chirag-ud-Din Marm

“I was ‘filet mignon’ for recruiters.

Now he is that and more for the Loony Left ...

Halp us Jon Cary. We are feelay meenyon for recrooters.

On Thursday, he refused to go, saying he considers Iraq an illegal war.

Fine, we'll forward your subscription to the NYT to Leavenwerth.

Guess you should've done your homework, huh, Chiroux?

He re-upped for the money
re-upped for it honey
He re-upped for the money
And he's really not that bright.

I did badly in high school, but I'm a Constitutional scholar and declare the Iraq war illegal.
/non-croyant

Recruiters call everyone. That is what recruiters do.

Iraq is an illegal war!

Besides, it's summer over there and hotter n' blazes.

Busting rocks in Kansas in the middle of July would be a good place for this POS. Maybe he will find a boyfriend there who agrees with his point of view.

Thats not going to sit well with his superiors. You go where you are ordered, and no one cares about your views on the politics of the war. If he has any sense at all he would keep his mouth shout and do his job....

What was the previous thread about ? I forget.

re: #15 song_and_dance_man

Let him go. We're better off without him.

Give him 3 years then let him go.

What is war, if not an effort under arms to supplant one legality for another? Illegal war? The very notion is meaningless, a product of the steady-state concepts of the left. Everything must be kept as it is, for always. Bah.

Uhh, he's in the military, so he doesn't get to pick and choose.

re: #15 song_and_dance_man

Let him go. We're better off without him.

While his unit is in Iraq he should be in Leavenworth make big rocks into little rocks.

it's illegal war according to who?

re: #16 rorschach

Besides, it's summer over there and hotter n' blazes.

LOL!

Was this the same soldier who said he saw a long list of horrific things as a military journalist? From an article I saw, that soldier probably needs mental health therapy. I mean that with the best of intentions. He could have PTSD, and it might be serious.

In all seriousness, I hope his CO gets him in touch with some help.

God bless and protect all our troops. They are my heroes.

Feh- let him serve his tour at Fort Leavenworth.

I didn't know it was part of his duty to be the one to make that determination. He volunteered to SERVE in the military,he was not elected CIC. I appreciate his past service and thank him for it. However,he has no more business making legal decisions for the military any more than I do for the civilian sector.

The Communist Party tried to recruit me in high school. I told them to go f*ck themselves.
That's what you do when you don't want to join an organization. You don't join and then try to change the rules. This guy is a sissie.

"I think that the film Clueless was very deep. I think it was deep in the way that it was very light. I think lightness has to come from a very deep place if it's true lightness."
- Alicia Silverstone, Actress

Imagine some future Iraq, in 5-8 years after these people get their wish and the US military comes home. The same ones who protest the US deployment will be wringing their hands and scolding the inertia of the powers-that-be for not intervening in the massacres. Or maybe not. They have after all found a way to blame the US for the Khmer Rouge murders.

He probably learned about camel spiders too.

For an uneducated hick, he sure knows American Law real good.

This reminds me of a Monty Python sketch in which a soldier wants to leave the Army because he found out that "if there is a war on, I have to go and fight"
You signed up. Either go, or go to Leavenworth, worthless scum.
No one drafted you. And even that wouldn't be a justification.

re: #31 jaunte

The only thing that matters to these people is which political party started the war. If there own, they are fine. And idiots like Trent Lott were just as bad.

re: #31 jaunte

Imagine some future Iraq, in 5-8 years after these people get their wish and the US military comes home. The same ones who protest the US deployment will be wringing their hands and scolding the inertia of the powers-that-be for not intervening in the massacres. Or maybe not. They have after all found a way to blame the US for the Khmer Rouge murders.

If the Democrats when this next election, they will pull out and prove that America can not be relied upon, just as the Democrats did in Viet Nam. Pull out, kill a couple of million civilians, and bury the news of massacres, or just blame it all on Bush!

And yet at parties I bet he tells all the smelly hippie girls he is a Green Beret.

May this twinkle-toes c�@sucker find himself in a dark-alley-discussion with his betters on some dark and stormy night.

Notice: 1,881 diggs.

Meanwhile the BBC message boards are full of comments from all over Europe demanding that the USA forcibly intervene in Burma to deliver aid. That'd last about 3 days until the same old -same old would come up crying about how big a bully the US is throwing its weight around "illegally". I don't see any of them volunteering their own nations' armed forces.

Thank God that the Muslim Brotherhood, Islamic Jihad, Hezshizzle, Hamas and AQ haven't discovered the untapped potential of stupid white trash* right here in America.

Why go to Pakistan when there are people right in your target nation that are so stupid and so irresponsible that they can be used as tools in the greater jihad?

*apologies to white trash, but the guy himself kind of hinted at it.

re: #32 bosforus

He probably learned about camel spiders too.

A friend of mine serving in Iraq told me about those things. I once thought a .50 Cal would be a little much to kill a spider. Not any more.

re: #23 jcm

While his unit is in Iraq he should be in Leavenworth make(ing) big rocks into little rocks.

Ditto.

re: #29 DesertSage

The Communist Party tried to recruit me in high school. I told them to go f*ck themselves.
That's what you do when you don't want to join an organization. You don't join and then try to change the rules. This guy is a sissie pussy.

There, fixed that for ya!

Well I have been cleaning the garage and storage shed and weeding and after bar b queing brats and having adult beverages I held my tongue on the Kennedy thread, not so here. He volunteered, knows there is a war on and then decides it is illegal? Leavenworth is too good for him. Send him to Iraq and give the little bastard every shit detail they can find.

On a more serious level, the army clearly overdeploys these soldiers. In the old days you got one overseas billet, the second was usually requested.

re: #37 Sifty

Funny that you said that. "With his betters" is right. While I think he's a huge coward, with the training that our armed forces gave him...he could whip my ass up and down the street like a parade.

Ex-Marine Jason Lemieux told how a senior officer had altered a report he had written because it slammed US troops of using excessive force, firing off thousands of rounds of machine gun fire and hundreds of grenades in the face of a feeble four rounds of enemy fire.

Because, of course, the only fair way to fight a war is with perfect 1:1 proportionality. That way everybody has a chance to win and feel good about themselves. Simple.

There are thousands and thousands of Americans who, quietly and with resolve, have put their home lives on hold to go to a faraway land and serve -- men and women of exemplary character and dignity....

....and AFP has to go straight to the deserters and complainers, of course, to build a feature story upon. And get a load of that baseless, gratuitous "kind of young American US military recruiters love" crack.

[spit]

re: #39 JHW

Meanwhile the BBC message boards are full of comments from all over Europe demanding that the USA forcibly intervene in Burma to deliver aid. That'd last about 3 days until the same old -same old would come up crying about how big a bully the US is throwing its weight around "illegally". I don't see any of them volunteering their own nations' armed forces.

Most of Europe doesn't really have any military. They have relied on the US to be their shield for so long that western Europe has the lowest defence related spending in the world. Eastern Europe is a different story. They value their freedom!

By feeble you mean it was a BB gun?

re: #36 LoFlyer

Exactly. If we lose this one, our fall-back line is Long Beach and Manhattan this time, not Berlin or Tel Aviv.

And everyone else will already be gone or take the phone off the hook or let it ring when Uncle Sam calls.

Kerry and his wife are going to adopt him. Matthis Chiroux Kerry.

re: #48 jamgarr

Ex-Marine Jason Lemieux told how a senior officer had altered a report he had written because it slammed US troops of using excessive force, firing off thousands of rounds of machine gun fire and hundreds of grenades in the face of a feeble four rounds of enemy fire.

Because, of course, the only fair way to fight a war is with perfect 1:1 proportionality. That way everybody has a chance to win and feel good about themselves. Simple.

Kind of like kid's soccer in the United States...they don't even keep score. A Minneapolis elementary school this week outlawed "tag" to keep kids from feeling bad/excluded/unathletic.

And you wonder (we don't, but you know...) where it comes from.

OT
Anyone else find it somewhat odd and disrespectful that American Idol is calling the showdown between David Cook and David Archeleta "Double D Day"? Why would they use the phrase 'double d'? And why are they using the name of the day we stormed Normandy as a way to promote their talent show?

re: #43 Macker

There, fixed that for ya!

I was going to use that word, but we've had some female Lizards who have objected to it in the past.

in my opinion.... here is a kid who grew up poor.... did badly in school... and then enlisted in the Armed Forces and worked his way from Private to Sergeant.... effectively overcoming his past and establishing himself as a man.

And then he goes and spoils it all by saying something stupid like I love you.....

(sorry)

re: #47 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I believe it only right and just that he should have his ass handed to him in an orderly, proficient, military manner by people who know how.

re: #23 jcm

While his unit is in Iraq he should be in Leavenworth make big rocks into little rocks.

Hey! I didn't even see that before I posted my Leavenworth comment. GMTA!

I think the military should get tough with these guys- nip it in the bud. They don't get to pick and choose, so yeah- send his ass to Leavenworth!

re: #55 bosforus

OT
Anyone else find it somewhat odd and disrespectful that American Idol is calling the showdown between David Cook and David Archeleta "Double D Day"? Why would they use the phrase 'double d'? And why are they using the name of the day we stormed Normandy as a way to promote their talent show?

Maybe its bacause of their large, manly and hairy breasts of the contestants! (I have never once watched "idol", what have I missed?)

re: #55 bosforus

OT
Anyone else find it somewhat odd and disrespectful that American Idol is calling the showdown between David Cook and David Archeleta "Double D Day"? Why would they use the phrase 'double d'? And why are they using the name of the day we stormed Normandy as a way to promote their talent show?

Not really. I have heard people use "D-Day" for deadline/showdown-type situations my whole life.

D-Day and H-Hour just started out as standard military lingo for all the TBDs in the plans.

re: #39 JHW
That is very typical... the world community always demands the USA act as the worlds policeman, then screams "Illegal bullying" when we try to help...cant win with these morons.

re: #57 WindHorse

FRANK! NANCY!

And then he goes and spoils it all by saying something stupid like I love you.....

re: #59 song_and_dance_man

Maybe they will sing Dollie Parton songs for the finale.

LOL, well that would clear them of one charge. Unless they're wearing fatigues they've still got one to answer for.

re: #55 bosforus

OT
Anyone else find it somewhat odd and disrespectful that American Idol is calling the showdown between David Cook and David Archeleta "Double D Day"? Why would they use the phrase 'double d'? And why are they using the name of the day we stormed Normandy as a way to promote their talent show?

I think some people will be disappointed when they tune in and there are no "Double-D's" to be found...just two guys on stage. This one might backfire.

Oh, and you totally are right that to play off of the D-Day bit is shameless marketing of the worst order.

re: #40 brainwizard73

Thank God that the Muslim Brotherhood, Islamic Jihad, Hezshizzle, Hamas and AQ haven't discovered the untapped potential of stupid white trash* right here in America.

Why go to Pakistan when there are people right in your target nation that are so stupid and so irresponsible that they can be used as tools in the greater jihad?

*apologies to white trash, but the guy himself kind of hinted at it.

Poor, undereducated people can still behave with dignity. Trashiness is a choice not limited to the lower socioeconomic brackets.

re: #64 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

FRANK! NANCY!

And then he goes and spoils it all by saying something stupid like I love you.....

Dang, forgot the link

Good call. Almost verbatim what I said to
my buddy at work yesterday. You can see
their most conspicuous bias in the first 3
lines. Sad to think that our boys are over
there fighting, and perpetuating the very
freedoms that they seem to want to just
piss all over, and exploit, for their leftist,
political agenda. But, they "support the
troops..." right? Rrriiiiiight...

The MSM seems to leave this part out of the story on this guy:

Matthis enlisted in the Army days after graduating from high school. During his five-year enlistment, Matthis served as a journalist in the Army, with tours in Germany, Japan, Afghanistan and the Philippines.

They also left out the fact that he is currently a journalism student at a New York City university.

Link....

On Thursday, he refused to go, saying he considers Iraq an illegal war.

Well thank goodness we have that provision that allows individual soldiers to decide when they feel like going to war, and when they don't. I think it's called the Every Man For Himself Doctrine. Every sergeant a general.

Because otherwise he'd better pack his crap and report for duty, post haste.

re: #58 Sifty

I believe it only right and just that he should have his ass handed to him in an orderly, proficient, military manner by people who know how.

Speaking of soldiers that turn into subversives, hasn't Scott Thomas Beauchamp got is ass in a really big sling right now?

Funny when these "people" who wear a uniform "dissent" it is international news, but when they get tossed in the stockade, it falls off the radar.

re: #27 Sharmuta

Feh- let him serve his tour at Fort Leavenworth.

Plus twenty years.

The price for this kind of behavior must be much higher then just a couple of months.

He was cool with it all until faced with an actual deployment. Then suddenly found "morals and principles." He was a freakin' army photographer fer chrissakes! I suspect his story will have been inflated somewhat.

re: #70 ornery elephant

That explains a lot!

re: #62 OldLineTexan

Not really. I have heard people use "D-Day" for deadline/showdown-type situations my whole life.

You're right. I'll buy that.
re: #61 LoFlyer

Maybe its bacause of their large, manly and hairy breasts of the contestants! (I have never once watched "idol", what have I missed?)

Not too much. But I live in the hometown of Archeleta so it's in the news and on tv more than most places.

Was that his picture on DRUDGE yesterday?
Gads! He had that "LOOK" down pat - the intense ideologue - Lefty corruption of "righteous anger."
Now how can a war be "illegal" if Congress voted for it? The President does not have Constitutional authority to declare war on anyone. So, why doesn't this manipualtive little turd go glare at Congress, like at Nancy Pelosi? Why does one get the impression that's not what he's there for? Glaring at Democrats?
So, this one dude is on his own declaring Iraq a "war" in itself, and that HE thinks it's illegal. If he'd been paying attention as a soldier, he'd know it is just one theatre in a greater War against global Islamofascism.
The Left thinks they have a tool with no background, so this time it'll stick, right? He's got a Kevin Baconish glare down pretty good.

re: #67 goddessoftheclassroom

Poor, undereducated people can still behave with dignity. Trashiness is a choice not limited to the lower socioeconomic brackets.

Sorry, I was on E! News reading up on Paris Hilton's latest trampy commercial.

Of course you are right on...

re: #71 Cognito

Well thank goodness we have that provision that allows individual soldiers to decide when they feel like going to war, and when they don't. I think it's called the Every Man For Himself Doctrine. Every sergeant a general.

Because otherwise he'd better pack his crap and report for duty, post haste.

Sometimes you surprise me Cog...that was very astute.

“I was ‘filet mignon’ for recruiters.

Yeah, since all recruiters are looking for idiots who did poorly in school. And especially ones that grow mullets AFTER they are out of the army. USDA Grade E.

re: #67 goddessoftheclassroom

Poor, undereducated people can still behave with dignity. Trashiness is a choice not limited to the lower socioeconomic brackets.

So true. My maternal grandmother used to spit that phrase - "white trash" was her absolute strongest term of disapproval and disgust. She was adopted into a family that was anything but wealthy, but they were respectable.

re: #70 ornery elephant

"...After college, Matthis planned to become a public defender and dabble in politics."
...And he might meet a wealthy ketchup heiress on his way to political fame and fortune...

re: #72 brainwizard73

Speaking of soldiers that turn into subversives, hasn't Scott Thomas Beauchamp got is ass in a really big sling right now?

Funny when these "people" who wear a uniform "dissent" it is international news, but when they get tossed in the stockade, it falls off the radar.

Good Point. Truly an Army of One now.

re: #70 ornery elephant

The MSM seems to leave this part out of the story on this guy:

They also left out the fact that he is currently a journalism student at a New York City university.

Link....

And to think, he's giving up his chance to document all of the illegalities in that illegal war. No Pulitzer for him.

re: #73 Syrah

I believe the punishment used to involve a short walk in the courtyard, a wall, a cigarette, and a blindfold.

I get misty from nostalgia sometimes.

My father (Korea) and his three brothers (WWII) all fought in wars for the USA. One brother (who I obviously never met) did not make it home. The ones that did told stories of their challenges and heartache of fighting in a war. They were proud to fight for their country and serve as they were ordered. The three that survived were all decorated for their service. This young man is worse than a coward, he is a disgrace to the uniform and should be court - Marshalled and sent to prison.

re: #68 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Wow... that takes me back..... practicing that on the piano for Bob Hurt (my piano teacher) and singing the lyrics as I played (I was about 8).

Thanks!

re: #78 brainwizard73

Sorry, I was on E! News reading up on Paris Hilton's latest trampy commercial.

Of course you are right on...

Oh, and I agree with your calling this scumbag trash--no apology necessary!

re: #84 Kreuzueber Halbmond

And to think, he's giving up his chance to document all of the illegalities in that illegal war. No Pulitzer for him.

And that is the sad truth.

/He Beauchamped himself

re: #74 kevinmumaw

He was cool with it all until faced with an actual deployment. Then suddenly found "morals and principles." He was a freakin' army photographer fer chrissakes! I suspect his story will have been inflated somewhat.

Ain't nothing wrong with being an Army photographer. At all.

re: #77 wanumba

"Kevin Bacon Glare" Love it!

Like the glare young Kevin had in JFK...

re: #81 OldLineTexan

So true. My maternal grandmother used to spit that phrase - "white trash" was her absolute strongest term of disapproval and disgust. She was adopted into a family that was anything but wealthy, but they were respectable.

I would have got on well with your grandmother. Did she use "tacky," too?

re: #82 jaunte

I think he should get hiss own bad seff a 10-gallon hat and open a steakhouse

/

re: #38 Charles

Charles -

AND, all 'y'all expected? - Monsieur Le President de la Republique - Where are you when we need you?

-S-

I'm gonna break with the crowd on this one and say that the young man should be released from the military post-haste.

Take him outside the stockade, rip the buttons off his uniform, rip off his patches, break his sword, and let the Indians deal with him.

Simple. He can't go to Iraq because nobody can depend on him. A mil prison is too good for him. I'll pay for the bullet. Shoot the bastard and let's move on. I'm not a lawyer but seems to me the UCMJ would support a bullet in the heart for a traitor like this.

Geeesh. We now have a military of pros. They, God bless them!, chose to defend us and enlist. We didn't conscript them, they made a choice. That choice doesn't include bailing when you are nothing but a puss. Traitors must be slammed up against the wall and shot. Really quite simple.

re: #91 Sifty

Bah! My dog has a better glare than kevin Bacon. Tommy Lee Jones has a good glare.

re: #85 Sifty

I thought so too.

Twenty years plus the time of his units tour of duty should be a minimum.

re: #73 Syrah

Plus twenty years.

The price for this kind of behavior must be much higher then just a couple of months.

I agree- but at least a couple months would serve as an example to any other soldier who might think they could get away this this sort of dereliction of duty.

re: #90 Cognito

Ain't nothing wrong with being an Army photographer. At all.

A combat photographer is a different cat than a army journalist enrolled in NYU. They stand up and take pictures while everyone else is ducking and shooting. No comparison.....

re: #46 pat
Was that before or after the draft ended? To volunteer now is basically a decision to making the military a career so more deployments would be part of the job, wouldn't they be? It's a whole 'nother group of people now - those who want to be part of the military. Some will indeed not want to reup, so they don't, but for most of them, they reup and expect to be deployed. What's the point of all that training if one sits around Stateside doing nothing? A surgeon doesn't practice surgery then not use those skills. What's so odd about a career solider being sent here and there to fight?

re: #95 OldLineTexan

Especially the Cleveland Indians. They have bats!

re: #97 pingjockey

Bah! My dog has a better glare than kevin Bacon. Tommy Lee Jones has a good glare.

I have a GREAT glare. Just ask my students...

re: #100 LoFlyer

A combat photographer is a different cat than a army journalist enrolled in NYU. They stand up and take pictures while everyone else is ducking and shooting. No comparison.....

Nothing wrong with being an Army journalist, either.

re: #102 Sifty

Especially the Cleveland Indians. They have bats!

And balls!

re: #56 DesertSage

I was going to use that word, but we've had some female Lizards who have objected to it in the past.

It's just a synonym.

Wow. Am I behind...

I wonder if they still break rocks at Leavenworth? At the very least, tonight this kid is in a very bad place. This guys "saga" is just begining. He shoulda just gone to Iraq , it would have been easier!

re: #96 crashland
Nope. Only cowardice in the face of the enemy. Treason. The UCMJ doesn't have a whole lot of death penalty charges,

re: #71 Cognito

Well thank goodness we have that provision that allows individual soldiers to decide when they feel like going to war, and when they don't. I think it's called the Every Man For Himself Doctrine. Every sergeant a general.

Because otherwise he'd better pack his crap and report for duty, post haste.

I do believe that they are sending junior enlisteds to the Army War College alongside O6s and general officers now. I'm sure that is how he came up with his astute observations on the conduct of the Iraq campaign. In his next appearance he will be discussing the impact of logistical failures combined with the split force decisions of the Confederates at the Battle of Pea Ridge allowing a numerically inferior Union force to drive the Confederates out of Arkansas and dominate Missouri. Or he might get busted for meth possession. it could go either way, really. Fear the Mullet!

Instant Creds

re: #105 VegasRick

And balls!

"Vegas" -

For Sure - in 1954.

-S-

re: #103 goddessoftheclassroom
Ha! Bet you do. So do I, from being an NCO for ever it seems like.

re: #55 bosforus

OT
Anyone else find it somewhat odd and disrespectful that American Idol is calling the showdown between David Cook and David Archeleta "Double D Day"? Why would they use the phrase 'double d'? And why are they using the name of the day we stormed Normandy as a way to promote their talent show?

Well you're right, but just for the record, Los Angeles alternative rock radio station KROQ always has a Miss Double-December contest, and I wouldn't be surprised if that's what the Derivation (!) was, since it's unlikely radio DJ Ryan Seacrest ever heard of WWII.

re: #92 goddessoftheclassroom

I would have got on well with your grandmother. Did she use "tacky," too?

I don't recall. I do not think you would have gotten along too famously; without throwing her under a bus, let me just say that her adoptive family was burned out by Sherman, and that the rest of her phraseology was replete with terms that are not considered acceptable any longer, unless one is a rap star.

re: #85 Sifty

I believe the punishment used to involve a short walk in the courtyard, a wall, a cigarette, and a blindfold.

I get misty from nostalgia sometimes.

Hear, hear!

Refusing to deploy, 20 years in Levenworth. Desertion in the face of the enemy, a cigarette and a blindfold. That's the way of it, plain and simple.

BTW, any one know what the outcome was of that Lt. who refused to deploy? He was the son of a well connected pol from Hawaii, IIRC.

re: #90 Cognito

My point there was he's carrying a weapon symbolically at best. That was one of his complaints. He can't carry a weapon (he says).

re: #95 OldLineTexan

I agree.... this poor fool has blown his wad... he needs to get a job at FINA pumping gas....

re: #95 OldLineTexan

I'm gonna break with the crowd on this one and say that the young man should be released from the military post-haste.

Take him outside the stockade, rip the buttons off his uniform, rip off his patches, break his sword, and let the Indians deal with him.

But what would he do when he's branded - and he knows he a man?

re: #115 M. Bensson-Levi
Mistrial, 1st go around. The Army is going to retry the case.

re: #100 LoFlyer

A combat photographer is a different cat than a army journalist enrolled in NYU. They stand up and take pictures while everyone else is ducking and shooting. No comparison.....

I wouldn't. I'd get me one of those autoburst cameras and just toss the thing in the air over my helmet and extra flak jackets.

/don't bring a camera to a gun fight

OT: Hijab sighting

re: #111 Dr. Shalit

Reply to Self -

And - with the help of G-d - The Havana Sugar Kings - or their successors - will be the Next Great Team of Major League Baseball.

-S-

Chiroux stood fast in his resolve to not report for duty on June 15.

Ah, maybe a military man can tell us something here.

A pickle here, what to do with him....

Can't send him to Iraq after those statements, but a month away from reporting ?

Anyone ?

re: #119 pingjockey

Mistrial, 1st go around. The Army is going to retry the case.

Thanks.

re: #114 OldLineTexan

I don't recall. I do not think you would have gotten along too famously; without throwing her under a bus, let me just say that her adoptive family was burned out by Sherman, and that the rest of her phraseology was replete with terms that are not considered acceptable any longer, unless one is a rap star.

You know, although I might internally wince at some of her phraseology, I think I would respect her greatly for playing the hand she was dealt.

re: #117 WindHorse

I agree.... this poor fool has blown his wad... he needs to get a job at FINA pumping gas....

Hard to make a martyr out of a failure and a fraud. Fire his ass, and make it public. Let him carry around a general discharge for life. Don't give him ANYTHING to cry foul over.

re: #124 M. Bensson-Levi

Heres a link to the Seattle PI story:
[Link: seattlepi.nwsource.com...]

The AP has become far more adept at writing left wing and terrorist supporting "news-otorials" than serving up straight news stories. Pretty soon they will just serve up nothing but fiction on their wire service because the public has become so mis-informed that they figure it won't make any difference. They may be right.

re: #97 pingjockey

Didn't mean a real-tough-guy glare. Not a Robert Mitchum-John Wayne-chrome vanadium balls glare.

Tom Selleck, Tommy Lee Jones or maybe James Woods kinda have it.

The Kevin Bacon glare strikes me as a snarl on a toy poodle.
The look of the perpetually slightly miffed.
Vapors of nag champa flowing breezily from the ears of a bitch-slapped Starbucks barista.
The glare of a drama queen turned down for the part of Andrew Sullivan in the new play, Folsom Street Fair Follies.

This guy has that sort of look.

re: #118 jamgarr

But what would he do when he's branded - and he knows he a man?

You're old too, huh? LOL.

BBL

Senador Jon Carry declared the Irak war to be ill-legal so it's ill-legal to be fitin in it over ther in Irakistan! That good enough four those of usins souldiers in the moden milidary!

re: #129 Sifty

"Vapors of nag champa flowing breezily from the ears of a bitch-slapped Starbucks barista."

Ha!

re: #123 mikeinmd
Sure you can send his happy ass to Iraq, or Antartica, or Korea, or any damn place the Army has a base. He is the "property" of the U.S. military 24/7/365. This is total BS and I would love to give him a blanket party 3 times a week!

I suppose Congress should poll the military's contingent of sergeants before declaring war next time, just to be safe.

re: #121 Killgore Trout

Those gloves are made for washing.

re: #130 OldLineTexan

After that show I always wanted one of those sawed-off cavalry sabers.

re: #130 OldLineTexan

You're old too, huh? LOL.

Yep. I was wondering whether you were old enough to get the reference - but I took a flyer on your nic

re: #127 jaunte

There ya go, Ehren Watada, scumbag.

BTW, how's your daughter? Has she deployed yet?

re: #129 Sifty
Ah Ha! Sorry, thought you meant a for real I'm gonna rip your throat out glare. Like the poodle analogy. The glare I'd give this little bastard would peel paint off of bulkheads at 100 yards with no trouble.

re: #126 OldLineTexan

egggsackly.... he had an opportunity... he availed himself of it... and he has now squandered it because of an acquired uppitiness...

Fuck him..... let him get by on his own...

punk ass.

re: #121 Killgore Trout

Europe was quaint while it lasted.

"I cannot deploy to Iraq, carry a weapon and not be part of the problem," he told AFP.

So the solution is easy.

The military forbids him from carrying a weapon of any sort, and orders him to patrol the Iraq-Iran border. Alone.

Welcome to Club Leavenworth. We hope you enjoy your stay.

re: #132 Olderthandirt

Senador Jon Carry declared the Irak war to be ill-legal so it's ill-legal to be fitin in it over ther in Irakistan! That good enough four those of usins souldiers in the moden milidary!

"O-T-D" -

Just remember this - an "Ill-Eagle"'ain't nothing more than a SICK BIRD.

-S-

re: #134 pingjockey

Sure you can send his happy ass to Iraq, or Antartica, or Korea, or any damn place the Army has a base. He is the "property" of the U.S. military 24/7/365. This is total BS and I would love to give him a blanket party 3 times a week!

What I'm asking, I should have been clearer, is what if he reports after having made those statements ?
Still send him to Iraq ? I wouldn't want him covering me.

re: #134 pingjockey

Sure you can send his happy ass to Iraq, or Antartica, or Korea, or any damn place the Army has a base. He is the "property" of the U.S. military 24/7/365. This is total BS and I would love to give him a blanket party 3 times a week!

A blanket party! Those were the days. Ambush the targeted fuck-up, throw a blanket over his head, and beat the living crap out of him. Worked 10 times better than mast or a general court. Of course nowadays they would prosecute all involved....

re: #137 jaunte
Read and am reading a sci-fi series and this pissant gets the "Branded" treatment for cowardice in the face of the enemy. Couldn't shoot his ass too much politics.

re: #139 M. Bensson-Levi

She's still in Washington State for now, but her broken bone has healed.
Her fiancee has just arirved in Iraq.

re: #123 mikeinmd

I would really like to see the law followed for once. First off, according to the report, he is a deserter. Second, AKO has him listed as being in the IRR, which means he did one enlistment and got out. He enlisted in 2003, so he owes at least IRR time until 2010. I have a senior NCO friend who is opposed to sending people who go AWOL or desert to prison. He says make them serve out their time, suffer the ridicule they will receive from their fellow soldiers who have done their duty, then send them to prison once their time is up. Leavenworth isn't that bad, I hear.

re: #146 mikeinmd

I agree 100%...... disown this sorry ass.

re: #129 Sifty

Samuel L. Jackson.

I'm thinking of that glare as he swallowed down the last of Brad's coke in Pulp Fiction. Brad pretty much knew his ass was dead at that point.

re: #125 goddessoftheclassroom

You know, although I might internally wince at some of her phraseology, I think I would respect her greatly for playing the hand she was dealt.

I should reconsider; she came to Alvin, Texas from Galveston to teach in a one-room schoolhouse. She met my grandfather soon after, but could not be seen in public with a man due to her contract terms. She had to resign to marry him. You two could have swapped school stories, at least.

re: #146 mikeinmd
I don't know. Was in from '77 to '97 and never had anything like this come up.

Is his name John F. Kerry?

re: #150 kevinmumaw

Thanks, that's what I was looking for.

re: #121 Killgore Trout

That photo is sickening.

re: #152 Noam Sayin'

I'm thinking of that glare as he swallowed down the last of Brad's coke in Pulp Fiction. Brad pretty much knew his ass was dead at that point.

/Brett

re: #143 Syrah

Syrah -

All 'y'all are talking about a "FAIR WORLD" - according to the late, great, sainted JFK - the World HAS NOT Been Fair - since at least 1962.

-S-

re: #147 LoFlyer
Only if someone narcs. They cracked down on "crossing the line" initiations. Called it hazing, well there are lots of spaces on the ship to do initiations and it still goes on! Mwahahaha!

re: #152 Noam Sayin'

Samuel L. Jackson.

I'm thinking of that glare as he swallowed down the last of Brad's coke in Pulp Fiction. Brad pretty much knew his ass was dead at that point.

Hey, speaking of which, where's "Tasty Beverage"?

#145 Dr. Shalit: No more jokes about ill-eagles; they're a protected birdie! Have you had your eyesight checked recently?

re: #153 OldLineTexan

Did you ever live in Seattle?

re: #152 Noam Sayin'

I could pretty much guarantee that I'd soil myself if Samuel L. Jackson or Michael Clark Duncan glared at me.

I am tired of these mutha @#$%in deserters in this mutha@#$%in Army!
-Samuel L. Jackson

re: #157 Attaboid

That photo is sickening.

She looks mas as hell. Queen Elizabeth is incredibly classy and has shown real leadership. Wish her offspring had her qualities. I kind of like Prince Harry though....

re: #164 Sifty
That dude has a righteous glare.

Hey, did you know having a military background makes you too dangerous for the presidency?

Really...Tom Harkin says so...

Washington, D.C. — Republican presidential candidate John McCain's family background as the son and grandson of admirals has given him a worldview shaped by the military, "and he has a hard time thinking beyond that," Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Ia., said Friday.

"I think he's trapped in that," Harkin said in a conference call with Iowa reporters. "Everything is looked at from his life experiences, from always having been in the military, and I think that can be pretty dangerous."
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Harkin said that "it's one thing to have been drafted and served, but another thing when you come from generations of military people and that's just how you're steeped, how you've learned, how you've grown up."

Progressive!

re: #167 NJDhockeyfan

Tom Harkin should be sponsored by Massengil.

re: #147 LoFlyer

Saw a guy "scrubbed down" once, with those coarse bristle brushes. I don't think any one realized how much it would damage him. The abrasions were bad enough to hospitalize him. No more that a prefunctory investigation was made, and no one suffered any form of discipline.

That was back in the late 60's. Today, any one who even heard about it would probably face charges.

re: #168 Sifty
ROFLMAO

re: #167 NJDhockeyfan
Tom Harkin is in the senate and doesn't know the constituition. The military can't do squat without the okay of the civilians!

re: #159 Dr. Shalit

Syrah -

All 'y'all are talking about a "FAIR WORLD" - according to the late, great, sainted JFK - the World HAS NOT Been Fair - since at least 1962.

-S-

Ok, lets revise.

The military grabs his physical sorry ass. Strips off his cloths. Supper glues $100 bills to every inch of his skin. And then throws him over the embassy wall and into the streets of Zimbabwe.

re: #153 OldLineTexan

I should reconsider; she came to Alvin, Texas from Galveston to teach in a one-room schoolhouse. She met my grandfather soon after, but could not be seen in public with a man due to her contract terms. She had to resign to marry him. You two could have swapped school stories, at least.

I would have LOVED to hear her stories!

re: #163 WindHorse

Did you ever live in Seattle?

No. And I missed the Summer of Love by a few years, so I have been fairly un-stoned, and I think I would recall Seattle.

re: #149 jaunte

She's still in Washington State for now, but her broken bone has healed.
Her fiancee has just arirved in Iraq.

What broken bone? What did I miss?

re: #157 Attaboid

That photo is sickening.

This photo is pretty cool though.

The Real Mace Windu

Language...

re: #172 Syrah

Speaking as a taxpayer, I think we could achieve the same effect with $1 bills...

On Thursday, he refused to go, saying he considers Iraq an illegal war.

I consider myself to be the Queen of Mandistan.

re: #158 Killian Bundy

/Brett

Really?

Funny thing. I've always thought the name was Brad, as have many people I know. But I was watching this clip, and thought to myself, "That sounded like he called him, 'Brett'."

re: #175 M. Bensson-Levi

In training, she had a little hand-to-hand mishap with a larger more experienced female; suffered a broken collar bone.

re: #179 MandyManners
How ya doin' your highness? I consider him to be a uselss blob of protoplasm.

re: #179 MandyManners

I consider myself to be the Queen of Mandistan.

LOL!

I consider myself the goddess of the classroom, but at least my students agree.

Or pretend to...

My Dad flew in and out of SeaTac a few times when he was in the Army.

I asked him about what Seattle was like once in the 90's when Seattle was big.

He said, "It was wet. I had some coffee."

re: #178 jaunte

Speaking as a taxpayer, I think we could achieve the same effect with $1 bills...

With the current devaluation of the dollar, $1 bills might not be sufficient inducement to the proper frenzied response of the locals.

re: #180 Noam Sayin'

Frank Whaley ... Brett

/as in, check out the big brain on . . .

re: #167 NJDhockeyfan

Hey, did you know having a military background makes you too dangerous for the presidency?

Really...Tom Harkin says so...

Progressive!

Tommy boy even publicly lied about his military service. So I guess that qualifies him to be a Democrat Senator. What an idiot. He's been an embarrassment to Iowa for decades.

OT

Love at first sight is really love at first projection. And then the mist clears, and the lovers' quarrels begin:

B, you're kidding me, right? The flag pin? Come on.

I've noticed you're wearing it again—a lot. I also noticed you've been talking about patriotism—a lot. Too much, in fact.

Is this how your handlers suggest you signal to voters who question your love for this country that you really, really, really, do love America? I hope not, because all it does is reinforce your doubters' suspicions that your positions are fluid and politically expedient, and it confuses your supporters who believe that you are a man of strong principles. If you're not careful, "change we can believe in" is going to take on an entirely new meaning.

linky

Now let the man eat his [latest] waffle!

re: #184 Sifty

Brevity is the soul of wit. My English teacher told me once ...

re: #174 OldLineTexan

Didn't mean anything personal by that.... you just remind me a lot of a Texan I once knew who had moved to Seattle.... worked as a shipyard marine carpenter (among many other things) and who I became good friends with - and who, suddenly disappeared....

that's all. (he'd be pushing 80 now if he is still around)

re: #171 pingjockey

Tom Harkin is in the senate and doesn't know the constituition. The military can't do squat without the okay of the civilians!

I wonder if Sen Harkin thinks JFK shouldn't have run for President.

re: #180 Noam Sayin'

You are correct, I was watching one of those E! shows on biggest Hollywood screwups and that was one of them. Another one "Says of Thunder" and one of the actors called Tom Cruise "Tom"...he had some goofy racing name, I forget exactly.

re: #181 jaunte

OOW! Broke mine once. Nasty. Glad she's healed up. When is she due to deploy? What is her MOS?

re: #185 Syrah

With the current devaluation of the dollar, $1 bills might not be sufficient inducement to the proper frenzied response of the locals.

Just superglue some expired credit cards to his ball, and drop him off in Somolia. Err, thats assuming we can even find his balls.....

re: #186 Killian Bundy

/as in, check out the big brain on . . .

Brad! I hear people say it, 'Brad' all the time.

What a person doesn't learn on lgf...

re: #185 Syrah

Ok, just put a few hundreds where they'll do the most good!

US soldier [Chiroux] refuses to serve in ‘illegal Iraq war’.

French blood runs in his veins.

re: #92 goddessoftheclassroom

I would have got on well with your grandmother. Did she use "tacky," too?

And did she use the statement, "Well, she's no better than she oughtta be".

What does that mean, for heaven's sake? My aunt used it a great deal. About those kind of girls.

So what kind of punishment is this guy looking at when all is said and done?

re: #190 WindHorse

Didn't mean anything personal by that.... you just remind me a lot of a Texan I once knew who had moved to Seattle.... worked as a shipyard marine carpenter (among many other things) and who I became good friends with - and who, suddenly disappeared....

that's all. (he'd be pushing 80 now if he is still around)

Oh, I wasn't taking offense, just being a smartass. I'm from the last wave of Baby Boomers, and one of the worst carpenters you would ever want to meet. But I do still have my original eight fingers and two thumbs.

re: #191 NJDhockeyfan

Oh, I doubt it. FDR, JFK are icons for the donks. He didn't say anything about Jon(halp uz) Kary and his "service".

"Says of Thunder" should read "Days of Thunder, of course. PIMF

Big Kahuna Burgers for all!

re: #192 kevinmumaw

You are correct, I was watching one of those E! shows on biggest Hollywood screwups and that was one of them. Another one "Says of Thunder" and one of the actors called Tom Cruise "Tom"...he had some goofy racing name, I forget exactly.

Waddya mean? Jackson called him both Brad and Brett?

re: #162 Olderthandirt

#145 Dr. Shalit: No more jokes about ill-eagles; they're a protected birdie! Have you had your eyesight checked recently?

"O-T-D" -

Eyesight actually getting "better" as I age - less "nearsighted"so they tell me.

-S-

re: #199 eclectic infidel

So what kind of punishment is this guy looking at when all is said and done?

Nothing if goes to Canada!

re: #91 Sifty

"Kevin Bacon Glare" Love it!

Like the glare young Kevin had in JFK...

In best movie trailer voice over: "He smoulders on screen as the man that dared to take on an imperial President."

Sean Penn...
Tim Robbins...
Susan Something...
and
Tom Cruise as Matthis Chiroux

A Michael Moore film in theaters this fall!

re: #197 Watcher

US soldier [Chiroux] refuses to serve in ‘illegal Iraq war’.

French blood runs in his veins.

You said French and runs in the same sentence. That works in so many ways.

re: #193 M. Bensson-Levi

She's trained to repair electrical and hydraulic systems for weapons turrets, but they're using her now as an admin troop. Haven't got a schedule on the deployment yet.

re: #197 Watcher

US soldier [Chiroux] refuses to serve in ‘illegal Iraq war’.

French blood runs in his veins.

It is similar to Chirac.

re: #200 OldLineTexan

I went to Texas A&M and have always had an affinity for Texans... I guess that must be it...

(give my best to all your thumbs)

re: #206 LoFlyer

Nothing if goes to Canada!

I think Canada is getting a raw deal with these deserters. They should at least require 20 years of service driving the ice road.

re: #95 OldLineTexan

I'm gonna break with the crowd on this one and say that the young man should be released from the military post-haste.

Take him outside the stockade, rip the buttons off his uniform, rip off his patches, break his sword, and let the Indians deal with him.

Send him to Gitmo!

re: #211 WindHorse

I went to Texas A&M and have always had an affinity for Texans... I guess that must be it...

(give my best to all your thumbs)

I am a Rice man myself. One thumb back at ya. ;)

re: #208 Sifty

You said French and runs in the same sentence. That works in so many ways.

Yes, I know, it was intentional.

re: #199 eclectic infidel
Desertion in time of war, failure to obey a lawful order, failing to report for duty, and whatever else they can stick the little fucker with, and if they can make it stick, he could be a very old man when he gets out of Leavenworth. Bwahahaha!

re: #204 Noam Sayin'

Right. His name is Brad, but Brett slipped out. There is an actual job in the profession whose sole task is to ensure accuracy in the script. Often they are ignored, depending on the director. More often than not, there are some many takes on a certain scene, that things get missed. This was one of those scenes. Interesting how much useless crap you learn watching E! The Soup is probably my favorite show, though.

re: #214 OldLineTexan

right on bro'..... :)

re: #212 Syrah

I think Canada is getting a raw deal with these deserters. They should at least require 20 years of service driving the ice road.

No! Handing out lifejackets to drowning polar bears! Make 'em join the Gore Corps!

re: #210 Mich-again

It is similar to Chirac.

Hmm Now that you've pointed that out...

re: #213 brainwizard73

Send him to Gitmo!

Screw that. Make him pay for his own damn Carribbean vacation.

re: #172 Syrah

Syrah -

Never happen - the basic point is that the world - Yours and MINE is NOT FAIR. And I can understand and appreciate the "Street Justice" involved.

-S-

re: #207 brainwizard73
You jerk! I just blew Kokanee all over the place! :)

re: #219 OldLineTexan

No! Handing out lifejackets to drowning polar bears! Make 'em join the Gore Corps!

I stand corrected. That is much better.

Jeneane Garafalo as Mathis Chiroux in:

Mathis Drops the Soap

re: #216 pingjockey

Desertion in time of war, failure to obey a lawful order, failing to report for duty, and whatever else they can stick the little fucker with, and if they can make it stick, he could be a very old man when he gets out of Leavenworth. Bwahahaha!

Technically, deserters during time of war can receive the death penalty. Won't happen, but there it is.

Peace friends.

Pray (if you pray) for Burma, and China. Really suckin' over there.

G'night Grandma!

Here's Chiroux's full statement, along with photographic proof that his fingers fit together end-to-end.
[Link: freedetainees.org...]

re: #225 Sifty

Jeneane Garafalo as Mathis Chiroux in:

Mathis Drops the Soap

OK, I have to ask: You want to see her in a shower scene?

His sincerity should be questioned. The military makes it clear to him daily that his political needs while in service are about zero on the scale of importance. Read: Klinger in Mash. Make an example of him and apply the appropriate punishment.

I think I disagreed with my military leaders a lot , but I did my job.

Or who's he been talking to?

re: #229 OldLineTexan

OK, I have to ask: You want to see her in a shower scene?

She actuallly used to be kind of hot. Lately, not so much.

re: #221 OldLineTexan

Screw that. Make him pay for his own damn Carribbean vacation.

Send him to Basra and when he joins the other side do what comes naturally?

re: #219 OldLineTexan

No! Handing out lifejackets to drowning polar bears! Make 'em join the Gore Corps!

"O-L-T" -

I like your style. POLAR BEARS - the only species declared "endangered" without physical evidence. GWB's Interior Department should be ashamed - THEN FIRED!

-S-

re: #226 kevinmumaw
They can, but it hasn't been done since WWII and that was desertion/cowardice in the face of the enemy. Hell, the military doesn't even go look for deserters. Most get caught during routine traffic stops. Run your license and it comes back "hey this asshole is a deserter". Had 3 guys brought back to my ship that way. BTW, they get turned over to for real U.S. Deputy marshals for transport.

There are deserters and they are court-marshalled without the media glare. This guy wanted the media attention. Watch for him to run for senate and then president 30 years down the road.

re: #209 jaunte

I still remember when my father took me to the train station for me to leave for the Army. He had been at Stalingrad, conscripted into the Russian army. That was the only time I ever saw him cry. I thought it rather unmanly of him. I was an idiot, who had never seen, nor done anything in his life.

That was over 40 years ago. Seems like yesterday.

G-d Bless and Keep her. Keep me posted, I'm a bit dull now and then.

Just got back, haven't read all the comments yet. Has it been confirmed that this Matthis Chiroux is who he/AFP claims he is?

Apologies if this have been covered already, back to reading.

re: #204 Noam Sayin'

Waddya mean? Jackson called him both Brad and Brett?

No.

/watch the scene

re: #229 OldLineTexan

OK, I have to ask: You want to see her in a shower scene?

I have to agree with my learned colleague here. I don't think she would be the nut-job lib we would want to cast in that part.

We might want to cast stones...

re: #222 Dr. Shalit

I know it would never happen, and seriously, as much contempt as I have for the guy, I only meant it in jest.

Better that the court marshal sends him to prison for a long long time. Will that happen? It is only slightly more probable then the $100 dollar gauntlet. Still, we should not allow these idiots to pull these shenanigans without fearing some such absurdly horrific punishment, or at least fear that justice will be done to them.

re: #182 pingjockey

How ya doin' your highness? I consider him to be a uselss blob of protoplasm.

I'd have fun dealing with Chiroux in Mandistan. Maybe start of with a boulder to be reduced to pea gravel.

Mathis Chiroux has been in the army for six years and is fully aware of how the military works and what they will do to him. My guess is that his pals at NYU have been dumping liberal propaganda on him, and are telling him how they will stand behind him all the way, blah, blah blah. He thinks the liberal media has his back, and the media backlash from his pals will protect him. As the Asians say, "rots of ruck!".

re: #183 goddessoftheclassroom

LOL!

I consider myself the goddess of the classroom, but at least my students agree.

Or pretend to...

They'll remember you years from now as the teacher who cared about language and knowledge.

re: #223 pingjockey

You jerk! I just blew Kokanee all over the place! :)

Sorry, forgot to put a disclaimer on...

I bet it would be a real commercial success. If only I can get Obama to do a cameo...

BTW, for those of you who did not see this yesterday, a true hero has passed. Irena Sendler

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Truly a remarkable woman. Rest in Peace. You deserve it.

One thing I love about this site, would have never heard the name, nor read the story.

Thanks guys!

re: #236 M. Bensson-Levi

Thanks for your kind thoughts; I send some to your father, as well.

re: #229 OldLineTexan

I knew two other "Rice" guys..... one who went on to become a successful metallurgist at Schlumberger (and smart as a whip) and the other ( a classmate of mine from high school up North in the Midwest) who actually was graduated as an MD...

And, from what I gather about you.... I can say.... Rice is a good thing.

My 1.5-gallon hat is off to ya.....

re: #243 MandyManners

They'll remember you years from now as the teacher who cared about language and knowledge.

That is so sweet!

re: #217 kevinmumaw

Right. His name is Brad.

No, his name is Brett.

/read the credits, Frank Whaley ... Brett

re: #231 Noam Sayin'

She actuallly used to be kind of hot. Lately, not so much.

Yeah, like 19 years ago and before she opened her mouth. But accurate.

re: #233 Dr. Shalit

"O-L-T" -

I like your style. POLAR BEARS - the only species declared "endangered" without physical evidence. GWB's Interior Department should be ashamed - THEN FIRED!

-S-

Let's declare polar bears constipated, and this guy can distribute and apply the enemas.

re: #241 MandyManners
Woman I went to high school with married an army mp. he worked at Leavenworth. That is where the whole military sends the serious assholes, murderers, rapists, not just idiots with mush for brains. He'll fit in real well there! Heh.

Here's a job Chiroux could do; and he wouldn't have to carry a gun.
Put him in as a replacement for Pfc Reardon:

It’s not the kind of detail Pfc. Joseph Reardon joined the Army for. Nor had he expected this job when he arrived in Iraq last August. But four days a week, the 22-year-old from Decatur is on latrine detail.

In the mornings, he pulls out the eight drums, douses them with JP-8 (jet propulsion fuel used in military vehicles)

“It’s unbelievably gross,” Reardon says. “It doesn’t smell too good.”

Reardon says the job can take up to three full hours.

[Link: www.ajc.com...]

re: #244 brainwizard73
Damn funny man. Plus after a sixer and its 97 degrees outside, it hit the funny bone real good!

re: #249 Killian Bundy

Right, I got the names reversed, bottom line, Jules refers to him as Brad and Brett in the same scene.

re: #242 LoFlyer

Mathis Chiroux has been in the army for six years and is fully aware of how the military works and what they will do to him. My guess is that his pals at NYU have been dumping liberal propaganda on him, and are telling him how they will stand behind him all the way, blah, blah blah. He thinks the liberal media has his back, and the media backlash from his pals will protect him. As the Asians say, "rots of ruck!".

Dude was/is being used. Sure he's a nut, but he's been told "sure you'll go to jail for a few months, but President Obama will pardon you and then you will be a BMOC somewhere and nail 18-22 women three at a time and never buy another drink again..."

Doesn't that sound like fun?

Homeboy is PRAYING (if he remembers how) for an Obamanation in November!

re: #246 jaunte

Thank you. He just turned 87 in December, still alive and kicking, although not as high and hard as he used to.

That is an oddly written article.

Obviously he got roped up by the IVAW but I would also direct the lizard army's attention to this nuggethere.

for nonlink followers:

Military Recruitment Practices Violate International Standards, Says ACLU ... The United States has failed to uphold its commitments to safeguard the rights of youth under 18 from military recruitment and to guarantee basic protections to foreign former child soldiers, according to an American Civil Liberties Union report released today. The report, "Soldiers of Misfortune," charges that U.S. military recruiting practices that target children as young as 11...

Also, the article says he is to report, not deploy, on June 15. Sorry if this is covered up thread but is this some sort of Individual Ready Reserve issue or is he an active reserve soldier.

re: #255 kevinmumaw

Right, I got the names reversed, bottom line, Jules refers to him as Brad and Brett in the same scene.

/no he doesn't

re: #253 jaunte
That is the job for this boy. Just let the NCOs handle it.

re: #257 M. Bensson-Levi

Excellent; my own father is 85, so we must be roughly contemporary!

re: #238 Killian Bundy

Well, now I hear it as, 'Brett' all the way through.

And that's the look I was talking about, upthread.

re: #254 pingjockey

Always glad to oblige!

Now the bar is even higher...

re: #237 Slumbering Behemoth

Pentagon Rebuts AFP Claim Military Recruiters Prey on Poor, Uneducated

Great rebuttal and put down of the creep.

/Drive by post...getting all the cooking, etc. done now that can be done ahead for a family invasion tomorrow.

re: #259 Killian Bundy

OK, I'm far too old to continue this debate.

re: #239 brainwizard73

I just figured since she was the most manly of the liberal castrati she would be a good pick.

She used to be cute in a moped-girl kinda way. But now she could scare a buzzard off a gut wagon.

And I believe that Hollywood needs to hire more mentally-challenged actors. Sean Penn and Tim Robbins won't live forever. Someone new needs to take on the manly-man roles of liberal heroes.

The guy is young and a basic dumbass. Hey, it happens. He is probably being run either directly on indirectly by some equally dumbass Dem poseurs. I feel sorry for his dumb ass. Too bad it will take some jail time to sort himself out. Dumb ass. Too bad.

re: #250 brainwizard73

Yeah, like 19 years ago and before she opened her mouth. But accurate.

I thought she was cute in "The Matchmaker" and "The Truth About Cats and Dogs."

She wasn't so hot, and wasn't supposed to be, in "Romy and Michelle's High School Reunion."