In short: writing is the art of applying the ass to the seat.

Low-grade fever all day is RUINING my Sunday...

But here I am!

Then again, Godfrey, I hold the pen with my FINGERS and don't place the paper 'neath my butt-tocks...

I was speaking finguratively, of course. Good morning!

Other quotes attributed to Rita Mae Brown:

If the world were a logical place, men would ride side-saddle.

As a woman, I find it very embarrassing to be in a meeting and realize I'm the only one in the room with balls.

and my favorite:

Lead me not into temptation; I can find the way myself.

re: #5 freetoken

WHO is RMBrown?

Someone we should know?

(Karridine!}

Feel better!

godfrey! :-)

You have to read the Daily Mail on Sunday Morning. Here's a sample: Why the police now have to ask teenage muggers: 'Do you eat chips?':

The new questionnaire, known as the Common Assessment Framework (CAF), is part of a £20million programme called Every Child Matters (ECM), ostensibly set up to ensure youngsters are safe and leading positive lives. [snip] Any child not achieving the Government's five "outcomes" - being healthy, staying safe, enjoying life, "making a positive contribution", and achieving " economic well-being" - is now defined as having "additional needs".

I smell a new punk revolution.

re: #6 Karridine

Haven't a clue how important she is.... her wikipedia entry is here. All I know about her is that on various lists of quotes she has some real zingers for entries...

re: #7 littleoldlady

From the last thread, at #1297, you asked if it was our Zombie, I responded-

I think so, it wasn't my subscription, but one linked from The People's Cube YouTube page, which is why I'm not sure.

Anyway, I don't know if this is a new thing or I just missed Zombie talking about it. Thought someone could enlighten me!

Going to bed for real now. :) ttyl

re: #7 littleoldlady

Thank you, Ma'am! Face burning, NO energy, no appetite...

Say, what is the Folk Cure? "Starve a fever, feed a cold"?
or
"Feed a fever, starve a cold"?

re: #9 freetoken

I can dig it, Token! :D

I like this one: "Never hope more than you work."

'Night, gop! :-)

Karridine,

"Feed a cold; starve a fever"

/I think

Then there's the "Feed a cold; drink a fever under the table" cure...

re: #14 littleoldlady

up-D I N G!

re: #10 gop_patriot

gop_patriot, zombies youtube account is still up. You can find it here. Took a little bit for the brain to kick in gear and find it.

/problems with switching from daywalker mode to a lizard of the night.

"The old maxim may be excellent advice after all, say researchers who discovered that eating and fasting provokes very different immune responses."

Feed a cold, starve a fever... (as of 2002, current wisdom)

re: #2 Karridine

Low-grade fever all day is RUINING my Sunday...

But here I am!

take drugs....

/w*rks for me %-)

Karridine.

The only cure you really need. :-)

re: #19 littleoldlady

I love it, Little Olde, but there's too much solids in that for a fever! A one to three-day fast, with CHICKEN BROTH and fruit juices and lotsa water is breaking this...

Thanks SO much for the Jewish Penicillin! Wisht I had a bowl or twain now....

re: #11 Karridine

Thank you, Ma'am! Face burning, NO energy, no appetite...

Say, what is the Folk Cure? "Starve a fever, feed a cold"?
or
"Feed a fever, starve a cold"?

feed everything: your body needs the energy to fight the infection.

Good morning follks. Karrridine - sorry you aren't feeling well. Go get yourself some Thai-hot something. :) Better than Chicken Soup for what ails you.

re: #20 Karridine

Make sure there's LOTS of garlic and dill in that broth.

re: #21 redc1c4

Actually, digestion requires a LOT of energy RedC, and a 48-hour liquids-only fast is LESS of a burden on the body's defense efforts...

This explains it sweet and clear, Red...

re: #23 littleoldlady

Make sure there's LOTS of garlic and dill in that broth.

And chile - don't forget the chile, which among other things will turn on your endorphins.

re: #24 Karridine

Actually, digestion requires a LOT of energy RedC, and a 48-hour liquids-only fast is LESS of a burden on the body's defense efforts...

This explains it sweet and clear, Red...

Food is also not a good idea if you have an intestinal bug. Or any vomiting.

re: #25 galloping granny

And chile - don't forget the chile, which among other things will turn on your endorphins.

...or kill you.

'Morning, granny! :-)

re: #12 Karridine

Heh... get well. Sleep, don't starve yourself!

re: #22 galloping granny

Dtome Ka Gai (Boiled Leg of Chicken) has lemongrass and garlic and ginger...
you're on to something good, Granny!

/I'll be back, but I'm woozy and flushed with fever... DANG!

re: #29 Karridine

Maybe you'd better lie down?

/just sayin'...

re: #27 littleoldlady

...or kill you.

'Morning, granny! :-)

Morning little. It definitely will NOT kill you. I've recently discovered that a half-jar of hot pickled peppers is great for arthritis in a pinch :)

re: #31 galloping granny

My healthcare philosophy:

Know thy stomach. ;-)

re: #11 Karridine

Thank you, Ma'am! Face burning, NO energy, no appetite...

Say, what is the Folk Cure? "Starve a fever, feed a cold"?
or
"Feed a fever, starve a cold"?

feed everything: your body needs the energy to fight the infection.

re: #24 Karridine

Actually, digestion requires a LOT of energy RedC, and a 48-hour liquids-only fast is LESS of a burden on the body's defense efforts...

This explains it sweet and clear, Red...

but not in a convincing manor.....

call me old fashioned.

re: #32 littleoldlady

My healthcare philosophy:

Know thy stomach. ;-)

Chile is actually good for your stomach. Not so many ulcers among populations that eat chile. And it turns on your endorphins - the "feel good, feel better" chemical. Start with small amounts. You don't have to eat raw jalepeno for breakfast (though I do - picked up the habit in the Southwest) or Thai-hot stuff, which even many chileheads cannot manage.

Well, I said before I was leaving and I must, but thought it might be of interest to raise a new topic.

You like panda bears, probably. Well, most people do. However, there is one guy who doesn't and he is none other than the famous governor of Tokyo:

Tokyo Gov. Ishihara questions 'excessive' rental fee for pandas at Ueno Zoo

Tokyo Gov. Shintaro Ishihara anti-panda crusade continues, with the object of his ire this time being the rental fee for a pair of giant pandas provided by China following the death of Ueno Zoo's Ling Ling.

"Just what does it mean to take money under a banner of goodwill and friendship? I think it's a rather excessive price." Ishihara complained during a scheduled briefing on Friday. The rental fee for the pandas is believed to be about 100 million yen.

"It's the metropolitan government's taxes that pay the money. Do people want to go that far to see them? I couldn't care less about them," he continued.

So, what's behind all of this? Well, for anyone not familiar with Ishihara, he is notorious for his occasional, how shall we say, provincial views. He and others of the right wing of the Japanese LDP party continue to struggle with Japan's growing relationship with China.

As an example, from the Observing Japan blog:
Fear and loathing in the wake of Hu's visit

As Jun Okumura notes, a poll by Fuji TV's Hodo 2001 program found that Fukuda Yasuo gained nothing from Chinese President Hu Jintao's visit to Japan last week.

The poll recorded that nearly sixty percent of respondents disapprove of Mr. Fukuda's China policy.

Beyond public doubts, Mr. Fukuda's action (or inaction) during Mr. Hu's visit have driven conservative commentators into paroxysms of rage over Mr. Fukuda's supposed pusillanimity in the face of Chinese outrages, especially poisoned gyoza and human rights violations in Tibet.
[...]

So there remains plenty of open wounds in East Asia...

re: #35 freetoken

I'm not sure I would chalk his Panda objections up to any anti-Chinese feelings. Zoos that keep Pandas here in the US pay a cool million dollars per panda per year for them. China retains all ownership and ultimate say over virtually everything. Even the pandas that have been born in US zoos are named by the Chinese. Usually the zoo is given a list of 3 names to pick from. The world panda population is VERY managed.

Did anyone see McCain on SNL last night ?
Pretty good joking about the dems and his age
LOL

re: #37 LeftJustAintRight

Did anyone see McCain on SNL last night ?
Pretty good joking about the dems and his age
LOL

Nope. I get up with the chickens and I go to bed about the same time as they do too. It is a rare thing to find me up much past 9 unless I have a new book.

Scientist: Smiling can hurt your health

FRANKFURT, Germany, May 16 (UPI) -- A German scientist has proved that people forced to smile and take on-the-job insults suffer more and longer-lasting stress that may harm their health.

Now wipe that smile off your face !

_{Help me! I've fallen into the spinoff links and I can't get out...}

I'd better extricate my butt from this chair. :-(

Good day, ALL!™

re: #38 galloping granny

Nope. I get up with the chickens and I go to bed about the same time as they do too. It is a rare thing to find me up much past 9 unless I have a new book.

Maybe someone will have it on youtube today

re: #36 galloping granny

Well, I guess that is my point... Ishihara is complaining about something that is just standard operating procedure. So, the Chinese are very possessive about their pandas... Be that as it may, zoos still cater to them.

When the last panda (in Tokyo) died recently (which is what set all of this off) there was plenty of press coverage and little kids lamenting, etc. Obviously a popular attraction, and thus the zoo wants replacements.

Ishihara's comments about the panda have nothing to do with the species... it has everything to do with the fact that they are Chinese.

And so the world turns... I just thought it was an interesting example of the existent tensions that underlie east asian relations.

re: #41 LeftJustAintRight

Maybe someone will have it on youtube today

That would be nice. I hear McCain is pretty funny. Did he host or was he a guest?

SNL

re: #43 galloping granny

That would be nice. I hear McCain is pretty funny. Did he host or was he a guest?

Guest

re: #39 LeftJustAintRight

Scientist: Smiling can hurt your health

Now wipe that smile off your face !

Oh, great.

Now when we go to a restaurant...the waiter/tress will approach with "WTF are you gonna stuff in your mouth tonight?"

In the grocery store at checkout..."Let her bag her own GD groceries!"

At the DMV...(never mind, they already treat everyone like shit).

LOL

Good morning everyone!

Obama Files LOL

Good evening Reptilia!

Interesting article on Michael Totten's blog suggests that Hezbollah might have a harder job taking over Lebanon than the MSM suggests...

Mornin lizards
/waves coffee cup around

re: #42 freetoken

Well, I guess that is my point... Ishihara is complaining about something that is just standard operating procedure. So, the Chinese are very possessive about their pandas... Be that as it may, zoos still cater to them.

When the last panda (in Tokyo) died recently (which is what set all of this off) there was plenty of press coverage and little kids lamenting, etc. Obviously a popular attraction, and thus the zoo wants replacements.

Ishihara's comments about the panda have nothing to do with the species... it has everything to do with the fact that they are Chinese.

And so the world turns... I just thought it was an interesting example of the existent tensions that underlie east asian relations.

Yes, I do understand about the little kids and all that jazz. The thing is, though, that ONLY the Pandas are rented out so to speak. Any other animal a zoo might have they have either purchased, been given as a real gift or have made a home for because the animal is injured in some way. Paying for Pandas is pretty controversial here too because they divert a huge amount of resources and take a huge chunk out of the zoo's budget.

I don't think it is about China. People would still find the $$$ controversial and perhaps not the best of investments (most zoos are lucky to stay afloat these days) no matter where the pandas were from. It is about the money.

re: #49 trailortrash

Mornin lizards
/waves coffee cup around

Where is OUR coffee?

re: #49 trailortrash

Mornin lizards
/waves coffee cup around

Go ahead, tease those of us without ready access to the pot.

/dare not drink another mug, must sleep today.

re: #52 BlueCanuck

Go ahead, tease those of us without ready access to the pot.

/dare not drink another mug, must sleep today.

It keeps you awake? You poor thing! I can drink an entire pot and then go straight to sleep.

re: #53 galloping granny

Oh I can sleep as well, the trouble is that I don't get a GOOD, restful, sleep.

same here granny, i drink coffee to wakeup, go to bed and all day inbetween lol

Afghan journalist appeals death sentence

KABUL, Afghanistan - An Afghan journalism student sentenced to death for insulting Islam denied the charges before an appeals court Sunday, saying he only confessed to questioning the religion's treatment of women because he was tortured.

During an hour-long hearing, a judge read aloud a transcript of the Jan. 22 proceedings against 24-year-old Sayed Parwez Kambakhsh at the primary court in northern Balkh province.

It was the first time the public and the media heard full details from the closed-door trial, which highlights the influence of conservative religious attitudes in post-Taliban Afghanistan's still-nascent justice system.

/wonder what his chances are for a "fair" outcome?

re: #54 BlueCanuck

Oh I can sleep as well, the trouble is that I don't get a GOOD, restful, sleep.

Oh I never get a good, restful sleep that lasts more than a couple of hours anyway, so I don't much care. Never noticed a speck of difference.

re: #56 gettinby

Afghan journalist appeals death sentence

/wonder what his chances are for a "fair" outcome?

I am truly appalled that we have allowed both Afghanistan and Iraq to institute shariah as the law of the land, encoded into the constitutions that we approved.

Any word on Kennedy ?
Drudge has not updated

Blackness Scale

If you folks haven't read the link up above about Obamessiah's Kentucky loss, you must. Apparently he is blaming his loss of Fox News. He is claiming that Hillary won because she is better known in Kentucky, being from Arkansas and all, than he is - even though Kentucky shares a border with Illinois and is part of their media market.

Apparently Barrack Hussein Obamessiah is not only challenged geographically in knowing the simple number of states(hint Obama - there are not 57, 58 or 59 or them), he also apparently does not know where most of them are.

[Link: www.redstate.com...]

re: #59 LeftJustAintRight

Any word on Kennedy ?
Drudge has not updated

Yeah, he is OK. Up and talking, meeting with family late yesterday afternoon.

re: #62 galloping granny

Thanks

re: #58 galloping granny

I am truly appalled that we have allowed both Afghanistan and Iraq to institute shariah as the law of the land, encoded into the constitutions that we approved.

appalled
adjective horrified, shocked, stunned, alarmed, frightened, scared, terrified, outraged, dismayed, daunted, astounded, unnerved, disquieted, petrified, disheartened

Excellent word to describe what we have allowed to happen. I couldn't come up with one...this crap leaves me speechless.

re: #54 BlueCanuck

Oh I can sleep as well, the trouble is that I don't get a GOOD, restful, sleep.

Hi BlueCanuck!

Things are going better in your job?

For me, and I don't know why it works, I started taking 1 Zantac with 2 Benadryls just before going to bed. Solid, straight-thru 7 or 8 hours now...very nice.

re: #65 gettinby

Hey gettinby, work is still the same. Big difference is that I don't care anymore. Personal life is doing much, much better. Part time job doing well. So on the whole things are going really great. How's things with you?

Input please -

The 1978 movie Holocaust (Marvin J Chomsky, director) is coming out on DVD the end of the month. It has great reviews, but I would like your input if you are familiar with it. We're doing the Holocaust as part of next year's school curriculum so I am considering buying it.

re: #65 gettinby

Hi BlueCanuck!

Things are going better in your job?

For me, and I don't know why it works, I started taking 1 Zantac with 2 Benadryls just before going to bed. Solid, straight-thru 7 or 8 hours now...very nice.

Gettinby, it works because two benadryl knock most people for a real loop. A couple of my kids sleep for a good 24 hours if they take just one of them.

re: #68 galloping granny

Gettinby, it works because two benadryl knock most people for a real loop. A couple of my kids sleep for a good 24 hours if they take just one of them.

When we were kids my mom called them grouch pills
LOL

re: #66 BlueCanuck

Glad to hear this!

Attitude is such a critical component in life (imho).

Doing okay...have a "real" job (no longer own and operate our own business) in residential property management.

Great article by Charles Krauthammer this morning on the 60th birthday of Israel. I love common sense. I wish it was more common.

One cup of coffee down, ten to go...

Where is Savage ?
I need a ride to orlando on Friday the 23rd

Why the hell are you people drinking coffee? It is CC time.

re: #24 Karridine

my late mother had a good one....................

Golden Ginger ale, with a little bit of whiskey.

Oh, yeah the ginger ale was heated too.

re: #68 galloping granny

Gettinby, it works because two benadryl knock most people for a real loop. A couple of my kids sleep for a good 24 hours if they take just one of them.

Tylenol PM has the same ingredient in it as Benadryl (the one that causes drowsiness).

Yet, Tylenol PM will not work for me. Weird.

Anyway...I've been doing this for many months...it's wonderful sleeping every night (especially at my age!).

It all started when someone suggested I take the combination to stop breaking out in hives. 90% success rate on the hives, with the great result in getting a good night's sleep!

re: #73 cannadian club akbar

My employer frowns upon imbibing certain bevrages at work. :)

re: #75 gettinby

Tylenol PM has the same ingredient in it as Benadryl (the one that causes drowsiness).

Yet, Tylenol PM will not work for me. Weird.

Anyway...I've been doing this for many months...it's wonderful sleeping every night (especially at my age!).

It all started when someone suggested I take the combination to stop breaking out in hives. 90% success rate on the hives, with the great result in getting a good night's sleep!

The best OTC for hives is Chlortrimiton. Contains epinephrine - same thing you get in the shot, just a lower dose.

re: #58 galloping granny

I am truly appalled that we have allowed both Afghanistan and Iraq to institute shariah as the law of the land, encoded into the constitutions that we approved.

Yes, how dare those Muslims you know, choose their own version of democracy. More importantly how dare we allow them to decide for themselves what goes into their constitutions.

Sip on some Southern Comfort, will take care of all your ills.

re: #67 galloping granny

I read the book, and saw the mini-series several times.
Was very powerful for the time, especially on MSTV. Streep was good as was Moriarty as Nazi officer. James Woods, and Tovah Feldshu also played grerat parts.

re: #78 doriangrey

Yes, how dare those Muslims you know, choose their own version of democracy. More importantly how dare we allow them to decide for themselves what goes into their constitutions.

You really are rather naive. Do you truly believe that we let Nazi Germany dictate their new constitution? Or Imperial Japan?

Why should American spend our blood and our treasure to free the downtrodden only to allow them to be instantly even more downtrodden in the name of "democracy freely chosen and voted on.?" That is sophistry, pure and simple.

Oops.

U.S. soldier uses Quran for target practice; military apologizes

"I come before you here seeking your forgiveness," Hammond said to tribal leaders and others at the apology ceremony. "In the most humble manner I look in your eyes today and I say please forgive me and my soldiers."

Another military official kissed a Quran and presented it as "a humble gift" to the tribal leaders.

For the love of God, kissed the damn thing ?

A tribal leader said "the criminal act by U.S. forces" took place at a shooting range at the Radhwaniya police station. After the shooters left, an Iraqi policeman found a target marked in the middle of the bullet-riddled Quran.

Criminal act. Of Course. The UN will investigate.

All this is is bad judgement, and a hell of an aim.

Morning, Lizards

re: #80 smokefire

I read the book, and saw the mini-series several times.
Was very powerful for the time, especially on MSTV. Streep was good as was Moriarty as Nazi officer. James Woods, and Tovah Feldshu also played grerat parts.

Is it accurate and suitable for a 12 year old?

re: #78 doriangrey
It is my understanding that, after the close of the war with Japan, the US decided for them what their constitution should be.
Perhaps we should have taken that same approach with regard to assisting the Iraqis in forming their own government.

re: #67 galloping granny

Input please -

The 1978 movie Holocaust (Marvin J Chomsky, director) is coming out on DVD the end of the month. It has great reviews, but I would like your input if you are familiar with it. We're doing the Holocaust as part of next year's school curriculum so I am considering buying it.

More info Granny, The story of two German Families, one Jewish, one "Christian". Rudi Weiss, the younger of the family, was the rebel, James Woods character, is older brother, who marries Christian girl (Meryl Streep). Michael Moriarty is a down on his luck lawyer, who becomes a Nazi, and joins the SS. He (Moriarty) has dealings with the Weiss family, through the father, who is a doctor. It has been a while, so some of the info is a bit hazy, but I know I know more, just have to get that info from back of brain to front.

As mentioned in other post, the movie/book was powerful.

re: #85 smokefire

More info Granny, The story of two German Families, one Jewish, one "Christian". Rudi Weiss, the younger of the family, was the rebel, James Woods character, is older brother, who marries Christian girl (Meryl Streep). Michael Moriarty is a down on his luck lawyer, who becomes a Nazi, and joins the SS. He (Moriarty) has dealings with the Weiss family, through the father, who is a doctor. It has been a while, so some of the info is a bit hazy, but I know I know more, just have to get that info from back of brain to front.

As mentioned in other post, the movie/book was powerful.

Ah - now I remember this movie! I have a terrible memory for movies. Thanks.

re: #83 galloping granny

I would say no, but then again, I'm not sure what 12 year olds are seeing these days. From what I remember, there were some powerful scenes of the camps, and the portrayal of the massacre of Babi Yar, along with other parts.

re: #86 galloping granny

glad I could help granny.

BE SAFE

re: #62 galloping granny

Yeah, he is OK. Up and talking, meeting with family late yesterday afternoon.

The news is reporting that the Senator watched a Red Sox game & had Legal Seafood brought in.
Sounds positive.

re: #81 galloping granny

You really are rather naive. Do you truly believe that we let Nazi Germany dictate their new constitution? Or Imperial Japan?

Why should American spend our blood and our treasure to free the downtrodden only to allow them to be instantly even more downtrodden in the name of "democracy freely chosen and voted on.?" That is sophistry, pure and simple.

I'm not naive granny, I know exactly what we did in Japan and Germany. Yes, we really did let them choose their own constitutions. The concept of freedom has apparently been missed by you. If we dictated their constitutions to them they would not be their constitutions nor would we have brought them freedom, we would have in fact simply made them our vassals.

re: #84 Shaky Louie

It is my understanding that, after the close of the war with Japan, the US decided for them what their constitution should be.
Perhaps we should have taken that same approach with regard to assisting the Iraqis in forming their own government.

Your understanding is wrong. The Japanese chose their own constitution all we did is impose a time limit on how long they had to ratify it.

re: #87 smokefire

I would say no, but then again, I'm not sure what 12 year olds are seeing these days. From what I remember, there were some powerful scenes of the camps, and the portrayal of the massacre of Babi Yar, along with other parts.

True. But there is no point at all in even bothering to study the Holocaust unless you truthfully portray the camps in all their ugliness. There really is no way to sugar-coat the subject, which is why I have left it so long as it is. I don't think I'll introduce her to Sobibor, but she lost relatives at Babi Yar. And I don't want to leave learning about the Holocaust much later.

But then I first learned about the Holocaust about the time I was 3 via a book about WWII that my parents had and an uncle that liberated one of the camps.

Lizards, I forgot to say Good Morning, so you know, Good Morning!

re: #81 galloping granny

You really are rather naive.

I like naive women.

I like native women.

I like women.

re: #90 doriangrey

I'm not naive granny, I know exactly what we did in Japan and Germany. Yes, we really did let them choose their own constitutions. The concept of freedom has apparently been missed by you. If we dictated their constitutions to them they would not be their constitutions nor would we have brought them freedom, we would have in fact simply made them our vassals.

Better go grab yourself a history book. We dictated - quite literally - the Constitution of Japan that stands today.

well howdy folks

re: #91 doriangrey

Your understanding is wrong. The Japanese chose their own constitution all we did is impose a time limit on how long they had to ratify it.

You are not completely correct, but mostly.
The Emperor was forced to renounce his claim to deity. The occupying U.S authority would never have stood for the reassertion of the Emeror as God in the new constitution.
I am sure that ther were other caveats.

re: #90 doriangrey

I'm not naive granny, I know exactly what we did in Japan and Germany. Yes, we really did let them choose their own constitutions. The concept of freedom has apparently been missed by you. If we dictated their constitutions to them they would not be their constitutions nor would we have brought them freedom, we would have in fact simply made them our vassals.

Hi Dorian!

It sounds like you're in agreement that they could choose (except for the women, who could/would not know anything except to choose oppression/fear/sharia law) to have such a constitution; that, in spite of what we did for them, that we should NOT have a say in this.

Wikipedia - Japanese Constitution

Much of it was drafted by two senior army officers with law degrees: Milo Rowell and Courtney Whitney. The articles about equality between men and women are reported to be written by Beate Sirota. Although the document's authors were non-Japanese, they took into account the Meiji Constitution, the demands of Japanese lawyers, and the opinions of pacifist political leaders such as Shidehara and Yoshida Shigeru. The draft was presented to surprised Japanese officials on 13 February 1946. On 6 March 1946, the government publicly disclosed an outline of the pending constitution. On 10 April elections were held to the House of Representatives of the Ninetieth Imperial Diet, which would consider the proposed constitution. The election law having been changed, this was the first general election in Japan in which women were permitted to vote.

The MacArthur draft, which proposed a unicameral legislature, was changed at the insistence of the Japanese to allow a bicameral legislature, both houses being elected. In most other important respects, however, the ideas embodied in the 13 February document were adopted by the government in its own draft proposal of 6 March. These included the constitution's most distinctive features: the symbolic role of the Emperor, the prominence of guarantees of civil and human rights, and the renunciation of war.

While the final draft was drafted by the US Army, it was revised by Japan before being adopted or so, you both are right?

The Prince of Wales has warned that the world faces a series of natural disasters within 18 months unless urgent action is taken to save the rain forests.

The Prince of Wales would do better to keep his pecker in his pants,
or the princess of wales will cut him off..

Al Gore, I think I found your soul mate.

re: #100 ibmkeyboard

The Prince of Wales would do better to keep his pecker in his pants,
or the princess of wales will cut him off..

Al Gore, I think I found your soul mate.

Either that or Snoop Dog

re: #95 galloping granny

Better go grab yourself a history book. We dictated - quite literally - the Constitution of Japan that stands today.

I suggest you grab a history book granny, because no we didn't. The Japanese already had a constitution which they had had since 1889, their current constitution is more or less the same with some minor tweaks. The most significant being the removal of the Emperor as head of state. MacArthur made a number of suggestions, which the Japanese people rejected.

I almost lost my breakfast.

Hengineer (#99),

Thanks for the fact check.

"You're wrong."

"No, you're wrong" is so tedious.

BTW what's your nic refer to? What kind of engineer are you?

re: #92 galloping granny

Granny I agree. Just got done talking with better half. She feels that a 12 year old should see this, and being the good husband that I am, I agree with her view.
She remembers the show too, and agrees that this is a must see for 12 year olds.

re: #104 Geepers

Hengineer (#99),

Thanks for the fact check.

"You're wrong."

"No, you're wrong" is so tedious.

BTW what's your nic refer to? What kind of engineer are you?

Merchant Marine Engineer.

right now 3rd Assistant Engineer on the USNS Kanawha

re: #103 mikeinmd

Is holding hands a Bush thing or an elderly Arab leader thing. I've seen that other picture of Bush and the Saudi king.

re: #12 Karridine

I can dig it, Token! :D

Any news on the Bahai' leadership that the Iranian fascists arrested?

Heh, looking at the IMDB Lowest Ranked 100 Movies of all time list is interesting.

"Troppo Belli (2005)" is listed as the worst ranked with 917 votes.
I've never seen it

re: #97 opnion

You are not completely correct, but mostly.
The Emperor was forced to renounce his claim to deity. The occupying U.S authority would never have stood for the reassertion of the Emeror as God in the new constitution.
I am sure that ther were other caveats.

I dated a Japanese Citizen when I was in collage, she was a Japanese History major. She went into quite a bit of detail with me on the formation of the Diet and the Japanese constitution. It was really very fascinating what the Japanese did. Basically what they did was to have a technocracy decide the future of Japan.

Hengineer (#106),

Thanks for your service.

re: #91 doriangrey

Your understanding is wrong. The Japanese chose their own constitution all we did is impose a time limit on how long they had to ratify it.

Hmmm. You may be right, but I suspect there may have been more going on behind closed doors.

"If we dictated their constitutions to them they would not be their constitutions nor would we have brought them freedom, we would have in fact simply made them our vassals"

Vassals? That implies imperialism, and I don't see the benefit to the US.
Sharia law can not work in a "democracy", as it still leaves all those living under it incapable of doing anything other than what is dictated by the Mullahs, etal.

But hey, what do I know? I really should be sleeping, anyway.

re: #111 Geepers

Hengineer (#106),

Thanks for your service.

Geepers! Thanks!

;-)

Timbre (#107),

It's and Arab thing, denoting confidentiality between the two parties.

re: #109 Hengineer

Heh, looking at the IMDB Lowest Ranked 100 Movies of all time list is interesting.

"Troppo Belli (2005)" is listed as the worst ranked with 917 votes.
I've never seen it

What's funny is how many of the worst movies on IMDB have Paris Hilton in them.

re: #107 Timbre

Is holding hands a Bush thing or an elderly Arab leader thing. I've seen that other picture of Bush and the Saudi king.

Its an Arab thing, they unlike us do not have years of homophobia dictating the acceptability of males holding hands. We see it as a gay thing because we have for many years now been forced to accept homosexuality as normal. Since they still view homosexuality as a perversion they have not taken a skeptical view of open displays of affection between males.

re: #116 doriangrey

Its an Arab thing, they unlike us do not have years of homophobia dictating the acceptability of males holding hands. We see it as a gay thing because we have for many years now been forced to accept homosexuality as normal. Since they still view homosexuality as a perversion they have not taken a skeptical view of open displays of affection between males.

They also have a STRONG culture of brotherly love.

re: #115 Hengineer

What's funny is how many of the worst movies on IMDB have Paris Hilton in them.

/Yea, odd how that worked out, ain't it? Why do you suppose that is?
/ (extra sarc tag, employ as needed)

This may be deleted, but I am going to give it a shot.
The rumor around Nashville is that Dolly Parton is going to record a new album with an all gay band and back-up singers. it is going to be called ( big drumroll here) "Hooters and the Blow Fish."

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Hizbullah's actions in Lebanon have pretty much ignited what are likely the opening phases of the third Lebanese civil war, and the diplomats are, instead of getting Hizbullah to disarm, are going to consolidate their moves, which is only going to further destabilize the country going forward.

Meanwhile, Hamas is playing propaganda games, using Gilad Shalit once again. They claim a deal has been struck for Israel to release hundreds of terrorists, including 71 murderers of Israelis. Oh, and Israel requested Shalit's release as an afterthought.

For it's part, the Olmert gov't is playing games too - with Israeli lives by not dealing with the ongoing rocket war in any serious and meaningful way.

re: #116 doriangrey

Since they still view homosexuality as a perversion

Except when it comes to young boys. Then not so much.

re: #110 doriangrey

I dated a Japanese Citizen when I was in collage, she was a Japanese History major. She went into quite a bit of detail with me on the formation of the Diet and the Japanese constitution. It was really very fascinating what the Japanese did. Basically what they did was to have a technocracy decide the future of Japan.

That sounds correct. General MacArthur & the rest of the authority knew that it would have to be a Constitutin with broad Japanese support But the U.S would never have stood for the reassertion of the Deity of the Emperor.
I think that the idea of us holding vetos over their constitution smacks of 'THe White Mans Burden." However we spent lots of cash & spilled precious American Blood. Sharia law would subjugate females to a position less than camels. We have a vested interest in a civilized society there. The question is can it endure when we leave.

Morning Lizards!

Shaky Louie (#112),

The Iraqi constitution isn't sharia law enacted.

It's a comprimise (and seemingly a contradition) of democray with a long history of religious tradition.

Read it.

afternoon rightside ;-)

Having total hip replacement surgery tomorrow, guys... any advice besides lay back and enjoy it? Thanks.

re: #125 Hengineer

afternoon, Hengineer!

re: #122 opnion

Sharia law would subjugate females to a position less than camels. We have a vested interest in a civilized society there. The question is can it endure when we leave.

There you have it.

RE: IMDB Lowest Ranked 100 Movies of all time list

ZOMBIE is on that list (#5 and 45).
Is there any place Zombie can't get to?

heh

re: #124 Geepers
Thanks for the link. I'll mark it for later reading.
It's a compromise (and seemingly a contradition) of democray with a long history of religious tradition.
On that we agree.

re: #112 Shaky Louie

Vassals? That implies imperialism, and I don't see the benefit to the US.
Sharia law can not work in a "democracy", as it still leaves all those living under it incapable of doing anything other than what is dictated by the Mullahs, etal.

But hey, what do I know? I really should be sleeping, anyway.

If we dictate what they can or cannot decide then they are not free and it would be imperialism. We would be no different than the former Soviet Union was in places like Poland and Yugoslavia were we do have done as granny suggests.

You cannot free a people by forcing freedom upon them, ultimately they have to choose to be free. We removed the tyrants boot from their neck and set them on the path to freedom and democracy. But it would not be freedom or democracy if they had no choice in the matter. If we did not allow them to make their own choices regarding the form and function of their constitution all we would have been doing is changing who the tyrant controlling their lives was.

Democracy is after all rule by the people, if the people do not have the final say in how they are governed then they are not a democracy, they are a client state or vassal. In order for their constitution to be exactly that, their constitution it has to reflect them as a people. Since like it or not Iraq is a Muslim nation refusing them the right to include Sharia law in their constitution would amount to no less than Iraq being controlled by a foreign nation.

How anyone could even remotely conceive of such a situation as being democratic is utterly beyond me.

re: #126 princetrumpet

Wish I could help you, but I've never had anything more than stitches.

re: #126 princetrumpet

Having total hip replacement surgery tomorrow, guys... any advice besides lay back and enjoy it? Thanks.

Yup, I had it done twice.(both hips) The first two weeks are weird.
You are really loopy on meds.
I assume that it is a minimally invasive procedure? Either way whatever discomfort you have post op is nothing comp0ared to your current pain.
Stay faithful to the physical rehab & you will be fine with no limp.
Good luck. You will be glad thst you did it.

re: #123 rightside

Morning Lizards!

Good morning rightside.........

re: #131 doriangrey

If we dictate what they can or cannot decide then they are not free and it would be imperialism. We would be no different than the former Soviet Union was in places like Poland and Yugoslavia were we do have done as granny suggests.

You cannot free a people by forcing freedom upon them, ultimately they have to choose to be free. We removed the tyrants boot from their neck and set them on the path to freedom and democracy. But it would not be freedom or democracy if they had no choice in the matter. If we did not allow them to make their own choices regarding the form and function of their constitution all we would have been doing is changing who the tyrant controlling their lives was.

Democracy is after all rule by the people, if the people do not have the final say in how they are governed then they are not a democracy, they are a client state or vassal. In order for their constitution to be exactly that, their constitution it has to reflect them as a people. Since like it or not Iraq is a Muslim nation refusing them the right to include Sharia law in their constitution would amount to no less than Iraq being controlled by a foreign nation.

How anyone could even remotely conceive of such a situation as being democratic is utterly beyond me.

Wait, this line of reasoning takes an odd turn.
Are you saying that being an enabler for them to choose tyranny is the most enlightened way to facilitate their freedom?
I say again , we spilled blood & went through treasure. We did not do that for them to institute Medeval terror.

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*yawwwwwwwn*

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re: #136 Miss Trixie

Good morning Miss Trixie. I don't usually see you around. :)

/occassionaly lurk on the day threads.

re: #133 opnion

Yup, I had it done twice.(both hips) The first two weeks are weird.
You are really loopy on meds.
I assume that it is a minimally invasive procedure? Either way whatever discomfort you have post op is nothing comp0ared to your current pain.
Stay faithful to the physical rehab & you will be fine with no limp.
Good luck. You will be glad thst you did it.

Yes, we're "going in between" the muscles and I'll be part titanium when we're done. I'm looking forward to it. I'm only 52 and the pain sucks, I gotta tell ya. Thanks for the reply... misery loves company :-)

re: #126 princetrumpet

Use your positioning wedge to keep your hip in allignment and be compliant on your post surg instructions and rehab. When you're able, after Physical Therapy, ask your doctor and therapist about water walking or aqua exercise... because you're half bouyant and also due to the hydrostatic pressure of water (to reduce swelling) you can really get good outcomes.

Remember when the staples/stitches come out and the skin heals, you aren't ready necessarily for full activity, it takes time for the muscles, tendons & ligaments to heal. The most common mistake post surgical is that when the incision heals, people think they're ready to go.

Hope you do well!

re: #46 gettinby

With some of my customers (insurance call center) it's tempting... :) No, it just gives us a chance to make fun of them after we're off the phone.

re: #137 BlueCanuck

Good morning Miss Trixie. I don't usually see you around. :)

/occassionaly lurk on the day threads.

I'm ususally part of the morning crew on the DT and I see your posts but by the time I get here, you're gone. What snoo in your neck of the woods?

re: #56 gettinby

1) Slim
2) None

This is really good. Clarence Page in his column is lamenting Obamas difficulty in converting the White blue collar folks,
Get this,
"....they are the ones most likely to believe the false rumors that he is a Muslim, refuses to salute the flag, hangs out with radicals and doesn't appreciate the values of people that work hard for aliving."
Are you going to believe Clarence or your lying eyes?

re: #141 Miss Trixie

Well if you have seen some of my posts lots. :)

The city is doing the usual though. Quiet day at work for which I am truly thankful. Still wish there were more hours in the day.

re: #138 princetrumpet

Yes, we're "going in between" the muscles and I'll be part titanium when we're done. I'm looking forward to it. I'm only 52 and the pain sucks, I gotta tell ya. Thanks for the reply... misery loves company :-)

The airport is a thrill. You will set off the metal detector & have to do the perp walk.
Annoying, but at least you will feel good.
I will be interested in your posts during rehab. I will be glad to share any insights that I can.

re: #126 princetrumpet

do you have good 'STAFF'?

re: #143 opnion

Hmmm, all those pictures, quotes, endorsements, books, are just figments of our imagination then huh?

/let him keep wondering.

re: #131 doriangreyWhile I can understand your point, the question remains, did we free them to choose slavery?
Will we have to drag them kicking and screaming into a more civilized social construct?
I imagine one could argue we are forcing Western models/ideals on them in doing so. But just winding them up and letting them run?
I know, I know, you can lead a horse to water...
But as was pointed out earlier, we have a vested interest in what happens there, and I would like to see some positive return on that investment.

re: #134 doriangrey

morning dorian!

re: #147 BlueCanuck

Hmmm, all those pictures, quotes, endorsements, books, are just figments of our imagination then huh?

/let him keep wondering.

Clarence Page has abandoned all reason & obejetivity.
He has become a grinning perdictable fool. No longer interesting.

Good morning Lizards... it's a Lovely Day (Bill Withers)

re: #135 opnion

Wait, this line of reasoning takes an odd turn.
Are you saying that being an enabler for them to choose tyranny is the most enlightened way to facilitate their freedom?
I say again , we spilled blood & went through treasure. We did not do that for them to institute Medeval terror.

The greatest threat to any democracy is its own people, democracies can vote or legislate themselves right out of existence. So yes, as odd and strange as it may seems there is a inherent risk involved in bringing democracy to people.

How would you dare to suggest that people who have no freedom of choice in how they are governed or by whom are a free and democratic people? Such an argument has no more truth to it than the suggestion that slaves like being slaves. It is in fact that exact same false argument.

We spent our blood and treasure to set them free, it would not however be freedom if we were to dictate to them what they we allowed to do with that freedom. That would not be freedom, it would be a form of conditional slavery.

re: #131 doriangrey

If we dictate what they can or cannot decide then they are not free and it would be imperialism. We would be no different than the former Soviet Union was in places like Poland and Yugoslavia were we do have done as granny suggests.

You cannot free a people by forcing freedom upon them, ultimately they have to choose to be free. We removed the tyrants boot from their neck and set them on the path to freedom and democracy. But it would not be freedom or democracy if they had no choice in the matter. If we did not allow them to make their own choices regarding the form and function of their constitution all we would have been doing is changing who the tyrant controlling their lives was.

Democracy is after all rule by the people, if the people do not have the final say in how they are governed then they are not a democracy, they are a client state or vassal. In order for their constitution to be exactly that, their constitution it has to reflect them as a people. Since like it or not Iraq is a Muslim nation refusing them the right to include Sharia law in their constitution would amount to no less than Iraq being controlled by a foreign nation.

How anyone could even remotely conceive of such a situation as being democratic is utterly beyond me.

Okay...I've been reading and re-reading this.

Sharia law is NOT a democracy, and even though they "chose" this (was it really a choice?) doesn't necessarily conclude that they're still not under total control of Sharia and, thus, are not a democracy.

And certainly, we and others who were involved in "freeing" their nations could/should have perhaps "guided" this constitution of theirs with at least the ONE condition...NO SHARIA law.

/jmho.

SHARM EL-SHEIK, Egypt — Israel got glowing praise from U.S. President George W. Bush earlier this week, while on Sunday, the Arab world got a stern lecture on the need to spread freedoms and isolate state sponsors of terror that he said are holding the region back.

"Too often in the Middle East, politics has consisted of one leader in power and the opposition in jail," Bush said in remarks prepared for delivery before the World Economic Forum on the Middle East. "The time has come for nations across the Middle East to abandon these practices, and treat their people with the dignity and respect they deserve."

Bush Urges Mideast Leaders to Advance Democracy

The president asked the Islamic world to join the United States in its determination to stop Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon. "To allow the world's leading sponsor of terror to gain the world's deadliest weapon would be an unforgivable betrayal of future generations," he said.

The emphasis on Iran reflects Bush's desire to counter Tehran's quest for greater influence in the region. New urgency was added to that task by recent turmoil in Lebanon that the U.S. and many Sunni Arab countries believe has been fomented by Shiite-dominated Iran, as well as Syria.

"It is now clearer than ever that Hezbollah militias are the enemy of a free Lebanon and all nations, especially neighbors in the region, have an interest in helping the Lebanese people prevail," he said.

He made clear that there are ways to define democracy that he finds acceptable — and not.

"Some say any state that holds an election is a democracy," Bush said.

Not so. "True democracy," he said, requires "vigorous political parties allowed to engage in free and lively debate," institutions that ensure legitimate elections and accountability for leaders, and an opposition that can campaign "without fear and intimidation."

Bush also devoted considerable attention to the disenfranchisement of women in many Mideast nations. A strong economy can't be built without the participation of the "formidable force" of females, he said.

"This is a matter of morality and of basic math," he said. "No nation that cuts off half its population from opportunities will be as productive or prosperous as it could be."

re: #131 doriangrey

Democracy is after all rule by the people, if the people do not have the final say in how they are governed then they are not a democracy, they are a client state or vassal.

If, as we're constantly told, the average Muslim-on-the-street just wants to live in peaceable harmony with everybody

(and fly kites like the rest of peace-loving humanity)
/channeling M Moore *spit*
*shakes head furiously, and continues

and it's only a small minority of religious fanatics holding to a few extremeist interpretations of the Q'ran, how can you say that living under the Draconian aegis of Shariah Law is the people's choice.

Sorry, Dorian, but the fact of the matter is that the inclusion of Shariah law is most likely due to fear of the huge riots that would surely erupt on the Friday follwing the adoption of any constitution that didn't include Shariah. So, in all probability, the people don't really have a say in the matter.

PS: A small Nitpick - the real world uses representative democracy -- pure democracy is recipe for chaos.

opnion (#143),

What a waste of time. Not a lot of blue collars reading Clarence. That's nothing but a "feel good" piece for the self proclaimed intellectuals to reaffirm their belief that working men ain't nothin' but a bunch of ignorant hicks.

re: #142 right_wing2

1) Slim
2) None

Sadly, you are probably right.

re: #131 doriangrey

How anyone could even remotely conceive of such a situation as being democratic is utterly beyond me.

How anyone could conceive a country who has never known democracy setting up a democracy for itself without strong input from a country who successfully has is beyond me. We didn't fight over there for business as usual. Your assessment implies moral equivalence, which it ain't.

re: #107 Timbre

It's an Arab thing, not necessarily an 'elderly Arab leader' thing.

re: #152 doriangrey

The greatest threat to any democracy is its own people, democracies can vote or legislate themselves right out of existence. So yes, as odd and strange as it may seems there is a inherent risk involved in bringing democracy to people.

How would you dare to suggest that people who have no freedom of choice in how they are governed or by whom are a free and democratic people? Such an argument has no more truth to it than the suggestion that slaves like being slaves. It is in fact that exact same false argument.

We spent our blood and treasure to set them free, it would not however be freedom if we were to dictate to them what they we allowed to do with that freedom. That would not be freedom, it would be a form of conditional slavery.

You are attacking a straw dog now. I am not suggesting that we micro manage their constitutin or any aspects of their lives.This will never be a Jeffersonian Democracy. We know that.
What I am saying is that we hve skin in the game. We caused regime change & we have a legal right & moral duty to assure that they do not institute oppression of women & others.
The Bill of rights & U.S Constituiion are not protections granted other than here.

least (#155),

A small Nitpick - the real world uses representative democracy -- pure democracy is recipe for chaos.

Iraqi constitution:

Article (1): The Republic of Iraq is an independent, sovereign nation, and the system of rule in it is a democratic, federal, representative (parliamentary) republic.

re: #156 Geepers

opnion (#143),

What a waste of time. Not a lot of blue collars reading Clarence. That's nothing but a "feel good" piece for the self proclaimed intellectuals to reaffirm their belief that working men ain't nothin' but a bunch of ignorant hicks.

Well said

US Soldier removed from Iraq for shooting Koran

Major General Jeffrey Hammond, commander of US forces in Baghdad, met community leaders from Radhwaniya in the capital's western outskirts and issued a "formal apology," the CNN network said.

"I come before you here seeking your forgiveness," Hammond told tribal leaders on Saturday. "In the most humble manner I look in your eyes today and I say please forgive me and my soldiers."

Another military official kissed a Koran and presented it as "a humble gift" to the tribal leaders during an "apology ceremony," CNN said, adding that the soldier had also apologised.

re: #139 The Albatross

Use your positioning wedge to keep your hip in allignment and be compliant on your post surg instructions and rehab. When you're able, after Physical Therapy, ask your doctor and therapist about water walking or aqua exercise... because you're half bouyant and also due to the hydrostatic pressure of water (to reduce swelling) you can really get good outcomes.

Remember when the staples/stitches come out and the skin heals, you aren't ready necessarily for full activity, it takes time for the muscles, tendons & ligaments to heal. The most common mistake post surgical is that when the incision heals, people think they're ready to go.

Hope you do well!

To a person, they all say "Listen and do what the PT's and doctors tell you", so, this is one time it'll be good to be a conformist!

re: #148 Shaky Louie

While I can understand your point, the question remains, did we free them to choose slavery?
Will we have to drag them kicking and screaming into a more civilized social construct?
I imagine one could argue we are forcing Western models/ideals on them in doing so. But just winding them up and letting them run?
I know, I know, you can lead a horse to water...
But as was pointed out earlier, we have a vested interest in what happens there, and I would like to see some positive return on that investment.

Basically the answer is yes, we freed them so that they could make their own decisions. Setting people free is a risky business because free people don't always do what you want them to do, thats part of being free, the right and ability to make your own decisions.

You have to be very careful with that vested interest stuff as placing to much value in it leads to imperialism. If they are not allowed to make their own decisions then all we have done is to replace one tyrant with another.

In order for their democracy to succeed we must teach them the value of democracy, they must see and believe in the principals of democracy. If we dictate to them what the terms of their freedom are, then they are not free, they would be nothing more than a client state of the United States, and that would be nothing less than imperial tyranny.

who the hell would ding down an open thread? artki and xwarzone. dumbasses.

re: #145 opnion

The airport is a thrill. You will set off the metal detector & have to do the perp walk.
Annoying, but at least you will feel good.
I will be interested in your posts during rehab. I will be glad to share any insights that I can.

I'm used to doing the perp walk since I get taken for middle easterner all the time. No worries, happy to do it. Looking forward to feeling good again. Thanks.

re: #165 doriangrey

Quick question, Dorian: Do you believe that Japan is a "client state of the United States", which lives under "imperial tyranny"?

Because I seem to recall that we didn't exactly say to them "oh, you guys just pick whatever kind of government y'all want" in 1945.

re: #146 yochanan

do you have good 'STAFF'?

Ha... I have great staff... all set and ready to do my bidding (until I get cranky). Thanks.

Iraq news for May 18th

May 18 (Reuters) - Following are security developments in Iraq at 1230 GMT on Sunday:

* denotes new or updated item

* KHAN BANI SAAD - U.S. forces killed six militants and destroyed a weapons cache in an airstrike in the town of Khan Bani Saad, near Baquba, the U.S. military said. Baquba is 65 km (42 miles) north of Baghdad.

BAGHDAD - A parked car bomb killed two Iraqi soldiers and wounded four others on patrol in Zayouna district in eastern Baghdad, police said.

BAGHDAD - A mortar bomb wounded four people in Iskan district in western Baghdad, police said.

BAGHDAD - Five bodies were found in various districts of Baghdad on Saturday, police said.

BAGHDAD - Four people were killed and 38 others wounded in clashes between security forces and Shi'ite militiamen in Sadr City in eastern Baghdad, police and hospital sources said.

BAGHDAD - U.S. forces killed two militants who tried to attack them in northwestern Baghdad, the U.S. military said.

BAGHDAD - U.S. forces captured three wanted militants and detained a dozen other men during operations in the northern city of Mosul, Tikrit, 175 km (110 miles) north of Baghdad, and Abu Ghraib, on the western outskirts of the capital, the U.S. military said.

opnion (#160),

We caused regime change & we have a legal right & moral duty to assure that they do not institute oppression of women & others.

Iraqi constitution:

Article (14): Iraqis are equal before the law without discrimination because of sex, ethnicity, nationality, origin, color, religion, sect, belief, opinion or social or economic status.

Whoa, I'm adding this to my Wish list. Just imagine the (censored) it takes to wind this badboy up for the first time...

Flying Man

I am getting measured for my empty suit.

Was with some more conservative republicans last night that are dissatisfied with McCain, and might vote for Obama.

Mark Sanford for VP-to quell the conservatives

"Come back Shane, come back."

re: #155 least
I have another thought:
Because it's a representative democracy, and the #1 aim of most representatives is to get re-elected, voting against something which will result in a) Friday riots and general civic chaos and b) personal death or mutilation - voting against the inclusion of Shariah is not a choice most politicians in an Islamic nation would make.

/How come there's not a moonbat cry for separation of that religion from states in that area?

re: #152 doriangrey

We seem to be doing a nice job of voting/legislating our own democracy (representative republic) right out of existence.

As far as the implementation of Sharia law, I think we should let them make their own decisions about the form of government they chose, but then live with the consequences.

Hey there {Miss Trixie}!

'sup wicha?

re: #164 princetrumpet

To a person, they all say "Listen and do what the PT's and doctors tell you", so, this is one time it'll be good to be a conformist!

Ya know what the best part is ? The afternoon nap! I miss it.
Do not, do not bend over, stoop, cross yor legs or ankles.
Keep that sucker in place. You will do great!

So, their new constitution allows this to happen?

re: #56 gettinby

Afghan journalist appeals death sentence

/wonder what his chances are for a "fair" outcome?

re: #177 opnion

Ya know what the best part is ? The afternoon nap! I miss it.
Do not, do not bend over, stoop, cross yor legs or ankles.
Keep that sucker in place. You will do great!

THAT will be the hardest thing to get used to for a while. The last thing i want to hear is a little Champagne cork-like sound coming from my hip. Yikes!

re: #91 doriangrey

Your understanding is wrong. The Japanese chose their own constitution all we did is impose a time limit on how long they had to ratify it.

The Japanese Constitution was drafted by the staff of General MacArthur, at a time when Japan was under direct US military administration.

Remember the Fallen. Names released of those killed in Iraq this past week:

Sgt. John K. Daggett, 21, Phoenix; died Thursday in Halifax, Nova Scotia, of wounds suffered May 1 in Baghdad when a grenade struck his vehicle; assigned to the 1st Battalion, 14th Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 25th Infantry Division; Schofield Barracks, Hawaii.

Sgt. Victor M. Cota, 33, Tucson, Ariz.; died Wednesday in Baghdad, a day after his vehicle struck an explosive in Kadamiyah; assigned to the Special Troops Battalion, 4th Infantry Division; Fort Hood, Texas.

Cpl. Jessica A. Ellis, 24, Bend, Ore.; killed May 11 in Baghdad when her vehicle struck an explosive; assigned to the 2nd Brigade Special Troops Battalion, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault); Fort Campbell, Ky.

Spc. Joseph A. Ford, 23, Knox, Ind.; died May 10 in Asad of injuries suffered in a vehicle accident; assigned to the 1st Squadron, 152nd Cavalry Regiment, 76th Brigade Combat Team, Indiana National Guard; New Albany, Ind.

Spc. Mary J. Jaenichen, 20, Temecula, Calif.; died May 9 in Iskandariyah of a noncombat injury; assigned to the Brigade Troops Battalion, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry Division; Fort Stewart, Ga.

Pfc. Aaron J. Ward, 19, San Jacinto, Calif.; killed May 6 in Anbar province by small-arms fire; assigned to the 170th Military Police Company, 504th Military Police Battalion, 42nd Military Police Brigade; Fort Lewis, Wash.

Spc. Alex D. Gonzalez, 21, Mission, Texas; killed May 6 in Mosul in an attack by small-arms fire and an explosive; assigned to the 43rd Combat Engineer Company, 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment; Fort Hood, Texas.

Lance Cpl. Casey L. Casanova, 22, McComb, Miss.; Cpl. Miguel A. Guzman, 21, Norwalk, Calif.; Lance Cpl. James F. Kimple, 21, Carroll, Ohio; and Sgt. Glen E. Martinez, 31, Boulder, Colo.; killed May 2 in combat in Anbar province; assigned to the Combat Logistics Battalion 1, Combat Logistics Regiment 1, 1st Marine Logistics Group, I Marine Expeditionary Force; Camp Pendleton, Calif.

Pvt. Corey L. Hicks, 22, Glendale, Ariz.; killed May 2 in Baghdad by an explosive; assigned to the 1st Battalion, 66th Armor Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division; Fort Hood, Texas.

Spc. Jeffrey F. Nichols, 21, Granite Shoals, Texas; killed May 1 when his vehicle struck an explosive in Baghdad; assigned to the 3rd Squadron, 89th Cavalry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain Division (Light Infantry); Fort Polk, La.

Staff Sgt. Chad A. Caldwell, 24, Spokane, Wash.; killed April 30 in Mosul in combat; assigned to the 3rd Squadron, 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment; Fort Hood, Texas.

Sgt. 1st Class Lawrence D. Ezell, 30, Portland, Texas; killed April 30 in Baghdad by an explosive; assigned to the 71st Explosive Ordnance Disposal Group; Fort Carson, Colo.

Spc. Ronald J. Tucker, 21, Fountain, Colo.; and Capt. Andrew. R. Pearson, 32, Billings, Mont.; killed April 30 in Baghdad when their vehicle struck an explosive; assigned to the 1st Battalion, 22nd Infantry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division; Fort Hood, Texas.

Staff Sgt. Clay A. Craig, 22, Mesquite, Texas; killed April 29 in Baghdad by small-arms fire; assigned to the 1st Squadron, 75th Cavalry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault); Fort Campbell, Ky.

Rest in peace. We will not forget.

re: #175 right_wing2

We seem to be doing a nice job of voting/legislating our own democracy (representative republic) right out of existence.

As far as the implementation of Sharia law, I think we should let them make their own decisions about the form of government they chose, but then live with the consequences.

Like most people here I would have preferred that the Iraqi's had chosen a completely secular form of democracy, but in order for them to have a democracy they had to have the choice.

Good morning Y'all - from a pleasant (62 degrees, going up to 75 degrees with a chance of t-storms) Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this fine morning?

re: #171 Geepers

opnion (#160),

Do you think that the insertion of Shari Law might abrobate the other language? If they are serious about the liberal article, why inject Sharia.
If they don not want that nasty Sharia language, but prefer the language that you quoted, no one shouls object to removing Sharia.

re: #185 savage_nation
gm? Y'all got your mouthful of food or something?! LOL!
How and were are you my friend?

re: #180 Occasional Reader

The Japanese Constitution was drafted by the staff of General MacArthur, at a time when Japan was under direct US military administration.

The Japanese people rejected MacArthur's draft and chose to modify their already existing constitution. MacArthur's draft by the way was drawn up by Japanese scholars and also based upon the already existing Japanese constitution.

realwest (#184),

Morning realwest.

How is everyone doing this fine morning?

Great. Solving all the worlds problems with a snap of the fingers.

Ain't the internet great? ;-)

re: #179 princetrumpet

THAT will be the hardest thing to get used to for a while. The last thing i want to hear is a little Champagne cork-like sound coming from my hip. Yikes!

You will be fgine. It doesn't happen often.
Even when it does, it rarely involves more cutting. They just pop that thing back in, but it sets back the rehab.

re: #184 realwest

Good morning Y'all - from a pleasant (62 degrees, going up to 75 degrees with a chance of t-storms) Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this fine morning?

Good morning realwest.............

re: #181 savage_nation

Morning, savage.

re: #173 pittrader1988

Was with some more conservative republicans last night that are dissatisfied with McCain, and might vote for Obama.

ugh. stop hanging out with idiots!

what kind of moron says, er, uhm, i don't like McCain on so i think i'll vote for a racist, marxist, neophyte?

i'm back and i'm grouchy as ever.

The Matsumoto Commission's recommendations, made public in February 1946, were quite conservative (described by one Japanese scholar in the late 1980s as "no more than a touching-up of the Meiji Constitution"). MacArthur rejected them outright and ordered his staff to draft a completely new document.
Much of it was drafted by two senior army officers with law degrees: Milo Rowell and Courtney Whitney. The articles about equality between men and women are reported to be written by Beate Sirota.

Link

While the Japanese did vote in a Diet (according to election rules that we insisted included women voters) who ratified the constitution, the US did not just step aside and let them come up with their own. We also censored the Japanese press at the time, by the way, in order to very actively influence opinion. After all the blood and treasure expended from 1941 - 45, we were not about to simply let them re-institute anything resembling Bushido militarism.

re: #182 mama winger

Indeed. Thanks for posting that.

re: #192 savage_nation

gm=good morning!

I'm at home and all is well. I got about 3 teenagers all crashed out on the floor here. Its funny to see. LOL! I got in last night and my daughter is really getting big, yikes!

ROTFLMAO...............Poor savage you is infested with da teenagers.....

re: #64 gettinby

appalled
adjective horrified, shocked, stunned, alarmed, frightened, scared, terrified, outraged, dismayed, daunted, astounded, unnerved, disquieted, petrified, disheartened

Excellent word to describe what we have allowed to happen. I couldn't come up with one...this crap leaves me speechless.

But coming soon to the west.

re: #189 Geepers Hey Geeps! LOL! Well I can see my presence is no longer needed, since all y'all have solved all the world's problems!
How are ya doing there my friend? Any more rust removal work to be done on your truck?

re: #197 mikeinmd

Indeed. Thanks for posting that.

You're welcome. We must never take their sacrifices for granted. They gave all they had, and beyond.

Dear God, I hate this conflict.

re: #188 doriangrey

The Japanese people rejected MacArthur's draft and chose to modify their already existing constitution. MacArthur's draft by the way was drawn up by Japanese scholars and also based upon the already existing Japanese constitution.

re: #194 savage_nation

hi mike, how are you?

Good, looks like a nice day here.
Boy wants to go fishing. I could sink a line today...
All good with you ?

re: #188 doriangrey

The Japanese people rejected MacArthur's draft and chose to modify their already existing constitution. MacArthur's draft by the way was drawn up by Japanese scholars and also based upon the already existing Japanese constitution.

You are susbtantively wrong on the first point - the "amendment" of the Meiji constitution was merely a procedural formality, the effect was an entirely different constitution - and almost entirely wrong on the second. The document which, IN EFFECT, became the new constitution, was drawn up by MacArthur's staff.

re: #191 doriangrey

Hey there dorian! You at work or at home today?
And how are ya doing?

Good Trinity Sunday morning, Lizards.

Seeking Updates
Many thanks to Ben Z and Cap'n Doc for starting this.

Prayers for comfort, strength, healing, and hope 5/18/08

Health issues:
Jim Robinson of FreeRepublic.com: leg amputated
incanus: uncle dying of liver cancer
Pro-Bush Canuck: sister’s illness
LanceKates: dad’s continued recovery from surgery
Ma Sands: daughter dealing with postpartum issues
Tarkus289: father is in hospital; may have pneumonia after two strokes and stage 7 Alzheimer'
kcladderman: father’s throat cancer; just finisher second round of radiation
Clutch: 82-year-old mom’s recovery from eye surgery
realwest: cancer
BBev: wife’s illness; recovering from surgery
Kenneth: beloved daughter "M" serious chronic illness.
loppyd: nephew, recently diagnosed with Type I Diabetes
Babbazee: ancillary health problems
Cartman: liver and other health problems
Irene NYC: mom’s cancer
EC Marm: wife is hurt
Lucius Septimius: mother
Storagemanager: copd (chronic obstructive pulmonary disease)
BenZacharia: wifffeee’s recovery from surgery
USMC1968: cancer

Family, friend, and life situations:
SavageNation: wife's best friend, Geneine (29) died 5/14 of ovarian cancer, leaving 3 little kids behind.
Shrug: Mrs. Shrug—Shrug Junior due in 2 ½ weeks
Lizards who are traveling, especially those going abroad.
Eyes of Blue: daughter’s neighbor's husband was killed in Iraq yesterday. His son and my grandson are best buds. They are 2. I don't know what his name is but his son is named Drake. He had 2 kids ages 1 and 2
committed: brother lost his mobile home to fire this past week
Intrepid:. Mom has Alzheimer's and Intrepid is caretaker
Gromster: mother’s passing
Bikermailman: mom’s heart surgery next month
Loppyd: stepfather recovering from serious surgery
wolfie: nephew (USAR) who is being sent into the thick of things in Iraq. We lost another nephew (USMC) two years ago.
vxbush: father’s passing; her & son
conservgirl: atheist SPM, that he finds the Lord
Lizards with family issues
Savage Nation: Dad Frank’s passing & new direction
Hayseed: extended family challenges
gibsonz: the passing of Sonia Neeley
Maximus: son reports for active duty in August.
Noraono: colleagues laid off in building industry
antiislamist: in need of prayers
tfc3rid: friend’s passing shortly after diagnosis, leaving wife and 2 young children; friend’s pregnancy/complications
laZardo: friend’s going to neurologist in May for possible brain tumor
lone_wolf_in_illinois: friends and family in Israel
Crusader Rabbit: safe traveling
Spidly: brother’s passing
GotC: EH/kids; losing cousin and aunt within 4 months
Danger close: general
zulubaby, Carl in Jerusalem, Mr Pol, Golden Jerusalem, basically all the minion in eretz Yisrael
noam sayin': comfort for a lost brother
DorianGrey: much sorrow
Buckeye Abroad: in the belly of the beast of Eurabia
ChildOfMary: job for hubby and health for self
nonic: general
yank in EU: general
MdiM: general
Suzette: general

Community issues:
Gilad Schalit, Ehud Goldwasser, Eldad Regev, for their release.
Those at risk for speaking the truth
The families of John Young and Ron Withrow and those of the contractors still held hostage
Those pushing back against dhimmitude
Israel, especially for those who mourn
Ezra Levant and Brian at Snapped Shot: for justice

Thanksgivings
Savage Nation: healing in family
BlueCanuck (and mom): brother, SIL, and niece in China and safe.
The Albatross: my father-in-law Walt, cancer reoccurrence, but living life to fullest
FishFearMe: "artifact" or a "sclerotic bone lesion" on sacroiliac IS BENIGN!.
killgore trout: stepfather’s doing better
Conservgirl: Father-in-law Oliver is in remission from Multiple Myeloma. It's a miracle.
Suzette: things improving
MamaWinger Father in law doing better

re: #195 Kirly

ugh. stop hanging out with idiots!

what kind of moron says, er, uhm, i don't like McCain on so i think i'll vote for a racist, marxist, neophyte?

From Chicago.

Cannot emphasize that enough.

re: #204 savage_nation

Hey Savage! Hope you are well. I have not been on in a while...

re: #202 opnion

A differnce without meaning. MacArthur still held the veto

re: #207 goddessoftheclassroom

you rock!

re: #195 Kirly Aw c'mon Kirly, you were never all that grouchy to begin with! LOL!
How are you today? I mean other than grouchy?

re: #206 realwest
Hey Real, you inspired me to come on and say hello!

re: #195 Kirly

ugh. stop hanging out with idiots!

what kind of moron says, er, uhm, i don't like McCain on so i think i'll vote for a racist, marxist, neophyte?

i'm back and i'm grouchy as ever.

This is EXACTLY Andrew Sullivan's defense for supporting Obama as a putative "conservative". He basically says, "gee, Bush isn't really a conservative, e.g. fiscally, so how much worse can it get?" Therefore, I'll support a Marxist. TA DA! Nice work, Andy.

opnion (#186),

Nowhere in the constitution is "sharia law" actually stated.

What people freak out about presumably is this:

Article (2):

(a) No law can be passed that contradicts the undisputed rules of Islam.

If there is any belief that the rules of islam are undisputed then, well, we haven't been paying attention.

Regardless, that is completely abrogated by (b) and (c):

(b) No law can be passed that contradicts the principles of democracy.

(c) No law can be passed that contradicts the rights and basic freedoms outlined in this constitution.

So I'm watching CBS Sunday Morning, I know, I know, but they are in Berlin and they are discussing architectural movements, Bauhaus and the like. They went in to the history of Germany and Berlin in particular, the wall, the airlift, JFK's famous quote, the wall coming down, Berlin today. Wait a minute, I think that another President had something to say about the Berlin Wall.

Maybe Ronald Reagan? Maybe, "Mr. Gorbechev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!"?

What a bunch of sniveling leftists.

re: #207 goddessoftheclassroom

Good Morning Goddess! Thanks for continuing to post and update the list. My father-in-law is still in remission so I appreciate the continued praise that he is well.

Osama Bin Dead, is coming out with another threat today.
I will believ that he is not taking a dirt bath if he refernces something current & it is not spliced.

re: #212 Kirly

you rock!

{realwest}
{opnion}
{conservfirl}
{Kirly}
{savae nation}

Read the first letters down!

dorian grey, I suggest you pick up a copy of Embracing Defeat by John Dower. Lots of detail about how thoroughgoing the US occupation of Japan was in the aftermath of the war. We did not merely let them take their own course. Good thing, too.

re: #169 princetrumpet

When my wife got hit by a car and broke her knee and leg she got me as STAFF problem is now that she is 85% better she still thinks I am still staff. i get the feeling she thinks it is a forever job.

re: #205 Occasional Reader Good morning O.R.! How are you doing today?
And how can you and dorian be having a dispute over constitutional law at this hour on a Sunday (dorian is on the left coast so it's even earlier for him) and on the Japanese constitution, no less?!

Good morning goddess, thanks again for the list.

{mama winger}

Thanks for posting that. My love and loyalty to our troops grows stronger by the minute. Is there a word stronger than proud that can explain how I feel?

{REALWEST}!

GOOD MORNING! (Handsome is as handsome does). ;)

{goddess}!

Today is my day off...no hairspray! LOL

re: #213 realwest

Aw c'mon Kirly, you were never all that grouchy to begin with! LOL!
How are you today? I mean other than grouchy?

hey! who you calling not grouchy? i'm super grouchy now.

how am i? feeling a little bit less crappy than yesterday. improvement is a good thing.

today i think i will quite literally lay around in the pool. i float easily. all i need is a funoodle for a pillow.

how you doing?

re: #215 savage_nation
So what have you been delivering here lately?

re: #207 goddessoftheclassroom

{goddess}

Thanks for all that. Prayers and thoughts on the way.

re: #195 Kirly

to me it sounds like a 'moby' or troll who comes in to stir the pot.
not a rational person.

Good morning all! It was 97 here yesterday and there is a lot of folks looking like lobsters today!

re: #218 Checker77

Nope, a sainted Democrat said "Ich bin ein Berliner", and a mere 38 years later, hey presto, the Wall came down. Republicans had nothing to do with it!

/

re: #228 savage_nation

awww, thanks!

[[[[[ gotc ]]]]]

Oop,s sorry about the typo!

re: #221 goddessoftheclassroom

Cute you are! You ROCK!

re: #216 Occasional Reader

This is EXACTLY Andrew Sullivan's defense for supporting Obama as a putative "conservative". He basically says, "gee, Bush isn't really a conservative, e.g. fiscally, so how much worse can it get?" Therefore, I'll support a Marxist. TA DA! Nice work, Andy.

the people who reach that conclusion are logic challenged.

i don't like the logic challenged. they make no sense.

re: #207 goddessoftheclassroom Good morning {goddess} and bless you for keeping the list going.
Truly.
And, btw, if you could add my Mom to that list (Type II diabetes) just diagnosed last week, I'd appreciate it very much.

NOW, how the heck are you doing today?

re: #226 gettinby

{mama winger}

Thanks for posting that. My love and loyalty to our troops grows stronger by the minute. Is there a word stronger than proud that can explain how I feel?

{REALWEST}!

GOOD MORNING! (Handsome is as handsome does). ;)

{goddess}!

Today is my day off...no hairspray! LOL

I'm sure you don't need the hairspray anyway--you MUST have that natural arch! (hee! hee!)

re: #233 pingjockey
Florida?

re: #207 goddessoftheclassroom

GotC, the MRI on my friend came back clear. :) Thanks for the listing.

Obama's new spiritual advisor?

A hot day starts up in Los Angeles and San Bernadino Counties, California. — Mt. Wilson Towercam.

Good Morning All

re: #237 savage_nation

Interesting. Soft side trailer? Flatbed?

re: #238 Kirly
Ijits. What has Andy Sullivan been smoking?

re: #214 conservgirl I did? Well good on me - you enrich LGF just by being out here!

re: #240 realwest

Good morning {goddess} and bless you for keeping the list going.
Truly.
And, btw, if you could add my Mom to that list (Type II diabetes) just diagnosed last week, I'd appreciate it very much.

NOW, how the heck are you doing today?

I'm doing well, thanks! I've got to run to get ready for church, so I'll BBL.

re: #165 doriangrey

Basically the answer is yes, we freed them so that they could make their own decisions. Setting people free is a risky business because free people don't always do what you want them to do, thats part of being free, the right and ability to make your own decisions.

You have to be very careful with that vested interest stuff as placing to much value in it leads to imperialism. If they are not allowed to make their own decisions then all we have done is to replace one tyrant with another.

note to self: cancel subscription to Tyrants Weekly.

In order for their democracy to succeed we must teach them the value of democracy, they must see and believe in the principals of democracy.

First they need a thorough education in the principals. Are you sure we have given them that education? How will they value something they don't fully understand?

If we dictate to them what the terms of their freedom are, then they are not free, they would be nothing more than a client state of the United States, and that would be nothing less than imperial tyranny.

I see you insist on bringing up the point that to interfere any further would constitute imperialism. If that is the hook you're hanging your hat on, you're losing me. I said earlier "imperialism" is unprofitable anyway, and furthermore I don't believe the US wants (as did the USSR) "vassal states".

re: #217 Geepers

opnion (#186),

Nowhere in the constitution is "sharia law" actually stated.

What people freak out about presumably is this:

Uh huh"undisputed laws of Islam"
Lets get real, that is Sharia.
Do you think that Islamic courts might be chopping off hands & stoning people? Do you tyhink that women might be brande whores & punished for not being appropriatley coverd?
There is too much ebvidence that Sharia law will trump all else.

re: #242 conservgirl
3 hours east of seattle. Wenatchee valley.

re: #226 gettinby

Thanks for posting that. My love and loyalty to our troops grows stronger by the minute. Is there a word stronger than proud that can explain how I feel?

you are literally bursting with pride.

re: #224 realwest

Good morning O.R.! How are you doing today?
And how can you and dorian be having a dispute over constitutional law at this hour on a Sunday (dorian is on the left coast so it's even earlier for him) and on the Japanese constitution, no less?!

And I haven't even had coffee yet.

Really what I'm disputing the idea that, after we've effected regime change in a fascist society, our only choice is to step aside and let them, if they want, pick another brand of fascism, otherwise we're being "imperialists". Ridiculous. (BTW, I am not saying that the current governments in Iraq or Afghanistan are fascist; but, for instance, in the latter, it is inexcusable that "apostasy" is still a capital offense, such that there is no effective freedom of conscience.)

I posted my reaction to this in the spinoffs, but this is just too good to pass up.

Now here’s the irony of this whole thing. This ‘Jammie’ blog as far as I can tell is a Zionist rats nest created to post misinformation such as the nonsense referenced by the above title. The hypocracy is staggering.

The source of the bias is clear to those who have researched the topic, and if not I recommend reading up on ‘Little Green Footballs’, and ‘Pajamas Media’.Little Green Footballs is an anti-American radical Zionist Jew racist hate site, and Pajamas Media is a spin-off media organization.

Pajamas Media Board members include many prominent bloggers and journalists, including "Instapundit" Glenn Reynolds, CNBC's Larry Kudlow, Michael Barone of U.S. News & World Report, David Corn of The Nation and Claudia Rosett (who helped break the United Nations' "Oil for Food" controversy).

Now postulating that regular Americans, with no regular cable TV shows, or columns in major national publications are somehow guilty of somehow attempting to manipulate public opinion by actively participating in Digg and posting up articles that address issues about which they are passionate is the height of insincerity. Especially considering the anti-American agenda of the Zionist ‘Little Green Football’ lizards. (lizards, a term of derision used to refer to Zionists, which they have oddly embraced as their own)

re: #228 savage_nation

awww, thanks!

[[[[[ gotc ]]]]]

Crap I hiccupped and up dinged the wrong thread, sorry (#228) ... really dry buckwheat pancakes and blueberries this morning... hic.

re: #243 laZardo

GotC, the MRI on my friend came back clear. :) Thanks for the listing.

How glorious! I've updated the list for the next posting.

re: #231 savage_nation

This is LGF!

THIS

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SPARTA!*

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*minus the buggery