Let me guess what the message is- Death to America!

/Am I close?

Osama is like Elvis, a big carrer while dead.

re: #1 Sharmuta

Let me guess what the message is- Death to America!

/Am I close?

No, I'M guessing that he will announce that he is a super delegate for Obama

There is no "Islamic Nation."

re: #1 Sharmuta

Good sum up, did you peek at his material?

According to the announcement, the "very strong" speech, produced by Al-Qaeda's Media Company Al-Sahab, would be an address to the Islamic nation.

Which islamic nation?

Weekend at Osama's XXIV.

I can't wait for the Obama endorsement.

It did wonders for Lerch back in 2004.

re: #6 VegasRick

According to the announcement, the "very strong" speech, produced by Al-Qaeda's Media Company Al-Sahab, would be an address to the Islamic nation.

Which islamic nation?

Dearbornistan?

re: #1 Sharmuta

Let me guess what the message is- Death to America!

/Am I close?

Ding Ding Ding

The code words "very strong" mean "Death to America"

"Hello? Is this thing on? Hello?

"So, two Jews and an Infidel walk into a bar...where they are immediatly stoned by the Muhajhadine!"

Badda-ching!

"Thank you, and good night! I'll be here all week!"

re: #9 JammieWearingFool

Dearbornistan?

Huh? What? I thought cair handled that. Man I gotta get with the program!

In the mounains of high Tora Bora
Osama he sat on the floor-a
' Till suddenly he found
With the bombs raining down
That he didn't exist
Any mor-a

re: #11 pious agnostic

"Hello? Is this thing on? Hello?

"So, two Jews and an Infidel walk into a bar...where they are immediatly stoned by the Muhajhadine!"

Badda-ching!

"Thank you, and good night! I'll be here all week!"

Comedy in islime.

Blah, blah...death to America...blah blah...Allah be praised (PBUH)...blah blah...same old same old. He's in the borders region of Pakistan, all the "islamic nation" knows that and we know it too but unfortunately we cannot anger the Pakistani's by blowing his happy a-- back to the 14th century.

re: #5 BlueCanuck

Good sum up, did you peek at his material?

I totally had to peek at the material because al-qaeda is as unpredictable as the clintons are honest.

Islamic nation?

re: #11 pious agnostic

"Hello? Is this thing on? Hello?

"So, two Jews and an Infidel walk into a bar...where they are immediatly stoned by the Muhajhadine!"

Badda-ching!

"Thank you, and good night! I'll be here all week!"

Oh, and you forgot "DEATH TO AMERICA!"
/

OT Chrissy Dodd on Fox News Sunday; Obamarama is a constituitional law expert" The only thing obamarama is an expert on is bullshit!

In order to believe that OBL is still alive, you must be either a moron, a journalist, a Democrat, or any combination of the three.

re: #21 rawmuse

In order to believe that OBL is still alive, you must be either a moron, a journalist, a Democrat, or any combination of the three.

Isn't that a bit redundant?

I wonder what "current event" they will dub into the old audio files to make it sound like he's still playing hide-and-seek in the caves?

re: #21 rawmuse

In order to believe that OBL is still alive, you must be either a moron, a journalist, a Democrat, or any combination of the three.

Or a CIA voiceprint analyst. Or are they already covered?

re: #2 opnion

It's the dream ticket
Bin Laden/ Castro in 08

re: #20 pingjockey

OT Chrissy Dodd on Fox News Sunday; Obamarama is a constituitional law expert" The only thing obamarama is an expert on is bullshit!

C'mon, that dude really knows his waffles, bullshit and waffles. Go barry!
/

The liberals should be happy that obl is dead. His rotting corpse is providing food for worms, and fertilizer for green growing things.

re: #23 gman

I wonder what "current event" they will dub into the old audio files to make it sound like he's still playing hide-and-seek in the caves?

My money's on the Koran shooting.

# 21 rawmuse

I'm none of those three I just don't know whether he's alive or not. I haven't heard this latest speech but haven't the others that have come out recently contained current events that would indicate that he's alive? I could be wrong about that. If this is just a general "Death to America" speech without any current events being mentioned then I may hop onto your bandwagon and believe he's dead. Until that happens then I'm going to have to wait and see. Although I would love for him to be dead that won't make it so.

re: #21 rawmuse

Who is responsible for confirming that the tapes really contain OBL's voice?

re: #26 VegasRick
Heh!

First off, the guy's dead and secondly, picture these damn fools with a cassette player in a cave. It's to laugh.

re: #27 pingjockey

The liberals should be happy that obl is dead. His rotting corpse is providing food for worms, and fertilizer for green growing things.

Zero carbon footprint. The best kind.

re: #11 pious agnostic

"Hello? Is this thing on? Hello?

"So, two Jews and an Infidel walk into a bar...where they are immediatly stoned by the Muhajhadine!"

Badda-ching!

"Thank you, and good night! I'll be here all week!"

"Try the camel, and, don't forget to stone the waitresses!"

re: #27 pingjockey

The liberals should be happy that obl is dead. His rotting corpse is providing food for worms, and fertilizer for green growing things.

Not to mention the reduction of his carbon footprint.

/

re: #23 gman Bin Laden will be pissed cause he thought Bush was calling him an appeaser .

This bin Laden crap reminds me of Weekend at Bernie's, but where they keep trodding out the body for more "communiques". Instead of "Weekend at Bernie's", maybe it's "Eternity at Achmed's" for Osama bin Dead

re: #34 gman

re: #36 BlueCanuck

I can live with obl having a zero carbon footprint! We need to get more of his minions in that category.

I don't get this!
How come we stil didn't track the people or IP's visiting this website? I thought it was very easy, is it not? can someone explain please..

re: #19 VegasRick

re: #11 pious agnostic

"Hello? Is this thing on? Hello?

"So, two Jews and an Infidel walk into a bar...where they are immediatly stoned by the Muhajhadine!"

Badda-ching!

"Thank you, and good night! I'll be here all week!"

Oh, and you forgot "DEATH TO AMERICA!"

Don't forget - "I'll KEEEL you!"

Osama (or whoever is pretending to be him) will announce that immediately after the election of his candidate he will enter into negotiations with the proposed Secretary for the Defense of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice, Imam Farrakhan, the details of the U.S. religious integration into the caliphate whereas the military surrender issues will be handled by Defense Secretary elect Al Sharpton. A special Jizya will be collected from the infidels who do not convert to Islam before the inauguration to help pay for the construction of the National mosque and remove all public infidel religious icons from the District of Columbia. Further details will be announce in the State of the Umma address.
/sarc

re: #30 redheadredstate

A "speech" was broadcast just last week. No current events, no video, just generic "Death to America" and "Death to Israel" screed, per usual.

Like I said at the time, the year is 2008, every cell phone can make a vid, those little Flip cams are a hundred bucks, every laptop has a web cam built in. If he were alive, he would have a video.

In any case, like W said, he isn't leading any parades...

re: #42 Annar

Don't forget - Obama has been to the 57 States - Islamic states, that is!

My personal belief is that he's been dead since Tora Bora. I mean those 5000lb bombs moved the whole mountain. He's as dead as Castro.

re: #41 6pat6

Don't forget - "I'll KEEEL you!"

On Saturdays they have a "car-b-que and goat tasting" contest.

re: #41 6pat6

Don't forget - "I'll KEEEL you!"

Take my wives.........please Brought to you by Berma shave.

re: #48 n in wi

Burka Shave, maybe?

ewwww!

re: #25 n in wi

It's the dream ticket
Bin Laden/ Castro in 08

With Kim Jung Il in change of economic reforms.

re: #40 skepsis

I don't get this!
How come we stil didn't track the people or IP's visiting this website? I thought it was very easy, is it not? can someone explain please..

Elaborate please. Why the question?

re: #37 n in wi

%uFFFDBin Laden will be pissed cause he thought Bush was calling him an appeaser .

exactly. The Bin Laden impersonator will do his best impression of De Niro's "You Talking to Me?"

re: #46 jainphx

Not a word recently about a dead Castro down here, in SoFla. I mean, not dead yet. Are you sure?

re: #3 opnion

No, I'M guessing that he will announce that he is a super delegate for Obama

Thats so wrong. That was a really nasty crack.

re: #54 savage_nation
Fishing expedition?

re: #53 dolfan

Not a word recently about a dead Castro down here, in SoFla. I mean, not dead yet. Are you sure?

Old dictators never die, they just smell that way.

Osama bin Dead
bin Lyin
bin Toast
bin Wormbait
bin Pulverizedtoamolecule
bin History
bin Replaced

re: #31 dolfan

Who is responsible for confirming that the tapes really contain OBL's voice?

cia

Coming back at you in grainy 8 track.

#43 rawmuse

Well that is pretty convincing that there are no current events mentioned by OBL. Also I seem to remember that there were several videos showing OBL looking just terrible...graying hair, haggard appearance, yellow and gaunt. This was a few years ago. There was a rumor that he was getting dialysis for a kidney problem and that would fit with how he looked. So here's hoping that he either died at Tora Bora or disease took him. Now if we could only get his #2 Zawahiri (spelling?) then I would truly rejoice because he seems just as evil or more so than OBL.

re: #54 savage_nation

Possible troll. One comment...

That's why I asked. Strange question out the blue, no? Maybe he's a previously sticked one?

I clicked on the link and saw that Osama is going to yadda yadda yadda. But to the right of that news is this article which makes me have a grain of hope:

Egyptian Author Sharif Hatata Talks about Life with Egyptian Feminist Nawal Al-Sa'dawi, States: The Hijab Symbolizes the Claim that Women Have No Brains

"We Are Regressing, Rather Than Moving Forward... Women are the Only Ones Ruled By Islamic Law in This Country"

"If we compare Islamic teachings in the days of the Prophet Muhammad to this day, we see that we are regressing, rather than moving forward. There was more freedom and more openness back then. I oppose Al-Azhar as an institution. I oppose those in charge of it. In my view, they spread backward and reactionary Islamic ideas, and they play a role in reinforcing the fundamentalist ideas in society.

[...]

"When society is ruled by religion, no one can speak out. Why? Because whenever you say anything, they respond: 'God said this. You are a heretic.' This is what is happening now. Anyone who expresses an opinion that differs from what is prevalent in society - especially with regard to the ideology of the fundamentalists and Al-Azhar - is immediately considered a heretic."

Interviewer: "But Egypt is not a religious state, you must be referring to the Muslim Brotherhood."

Dr. Sharif Hatata: "It is a religious state. It is written in the constitution."

Interviewer: "Do you support changing the article in the constitution that considers Islamic law as the main source for legislation?"

Dr. Sharif Hatata: "Our main source for legislation is not the Islamic religion. This is a lie. The main source for our legislation is the French law. Our civil laws have nothing to do with Islam and the Koran. Only marital laws are connected to Islam and the Koran. Women are the only ones ruled by Islamic law in this country.

re: #60 pat

8-track, hell! Try the itty-bitty reel-to-reel tape (pre-cassette) they used in the TV series Mission: Impossible!

re: #31 dolfan

Who is responsible for confirming that the tapes really contain OBL's voice?

Scott Ritter

re: #40 skepsis

By "this website", you mean the Islamist websites referred to in the post, right? (Could be read as "this website" = LGF)

re: #51 unrealizedviewpoint

Elaborate please. Why the question?

I think he is refering to tracking the website that posts Bin-has-beens stuff for a possible link to his where a bouts.

re: #69 savage_nation

Exactly!

Key word from the article: "Produced."
Somebody produced it....brought it out of nothing, put it together by cobbling old recordings or found that sound-alike guy who they've been using for years now and forced another speech out of him.

I don't mind that al-qaeda wants to keep playing Weekend at Osama's. They play into our hands, because if they admitted he was dead, or the CIA said it was a fake recording, the dems would use it as an excuse to stop the War on Terror.

re: #58 6pat6

Osama bin Dead
bin Lyin
bin Toast
bin Wormbait
bin Pulverizedtoamolecule
bin History
bin Replaced

Some more to throw on the pile

bin dubbed
bin triloquist

re: #53 dolfan

No! just a guess by the way they handled the whole thing.

re: #69 savage_nation

I thought they all melted?

/good luck, Jim

And he's still dead, Jim.

re: #70 JeremyR

I think he is refering to tracking the website that posts Bin-has-beens stuff for a possible link to his where a bouts.

That is the way I read the comment. And it is a reasonable question if the hosting site has been compromised.

re: #73 Sharmuta

I must admit, Sharmuta, I love the way you think.

re: #66 savage_nation

could be. Why the question about tracking IP addys?

He sounds like the idiot that wrote Charles a letter the other day . . . .

re: #76 VegasRick
You get his tricorder, I'll get his wallet.

re: #51 unrealizedviewpoint

Sorry I wasn't very clear... I was talking about the Al Sahhab website... Why can't someone track the guys behind it and arrest them?

re: #81 pingjockey

You get his tricorder, I'll get his wallet.

Too late, the dems already nailed the wallet.

re: #81 pingjockey

You get his tricorder, I'll get his wallet.

Don't forget the communicator.

re: #83 Skepsis
I'm sure the powers that be follow the trail, but if they're only playing a tape the recieved in the "mail", there is nothing illeagal about that. Plus they are in Yemen or Oman or some other damn shit hole.

re: #83 Skepsis

Sorry I wasn't very clear... I was talking about the Al Sahhab website... Why can't someone track the guys behind it and arrest them?

Depends on how the site is set up. Can be done, but it can take time. And maybe they find it more instructive to keep watch on the guys behind the site, where they go, who they see and so on rather than just arrest them.

re: #84 VegasRick
Well just poop.

re: #82 savage_nation

I missed that. Been real busy these days

He was smarter than all of us put together.
/

re: #50 jcm

With Kim Jung Il in change of economic reforms.

Putin will be in charge of elections board Ahmadinejad will be energy sec. {think nuclear power} Chavez will head the Mining safety commission He likes the smell of sulfur And last but not least your new sec. of state.........................................Mr. James Earl Carter!

re: #70 JeremyR

re: #66 savage_nation

re: #82 savage_nation

re: #77 pat

re: #83 Skepsis

Sorry I wasn't very clear... I was talking about the Al Sahhab website... Why can't someone track the guys behind it and arrest them?

No apology needed. I'm a moron.

re: #83 Skepsis

Sorry I wasn't very clear... I was talking about the Al Sahhab website... Why can't someone track the guys behind it and arrest them?

Most of the vids are hand carried to Al Jazera stations for distribution.

Just a question. Do you think that Osama bin Dead gets more respect from the Dems than the President of the United States?

A scene at the latest bin Laden "Taping"...

Achned: It's your turn to hold him up, Ali, I al;ways have to hold his smelly ass up!

Ali: I've got seniority, Achned. YOU hold him up!

Achmed: Try putting a stick through him, that way, he doesn't slouch!

Ali: Slouch, hell! He's been dead for four years!

This new speech by OBL will be followed by the release of a new novel by L. Ron Hubbard.

re: #83 Skepsis

Sorry I wasn't very clear... I was talking about the Al Sahhab website... Why can't someone track the guys behind it and arrest them?

Most of these sites are in Europe, fed by overseas content suppliers. They have tracked back a few, end up at cafes and such. Library once.

re: #85 jcm

Don't forget the communicator.

Leave the gun, bring the cannolis.

re: #97 VegasRick

And the hummus!

re: #93 opnion

Just a question. Do you think that Osama bin Dead gets more respect from the Dems than the President of the United States?

no! /sarc

re: #99 savage_nation

Well, I gotta run. Got garage sales to hit

Have fun

Enjoy.

re: #99 savage_nation

Well, I gotta run. Got garage sales to hit

Have fun

Keep an eye out for Ron Paul's blimp, I need one.

Britt Hume just smacked the shit out of Juan Williams and now Bill Cristol is smacking him around. Hahaha! If obl was alive there would be video.

re: #64 kay1212

Dr. Sharif Hatata: "Our main source for legislation is not the Islamic religion. This is a lie. The main source for our legislation is the French law. Our civil laws have nothing to do with Islam and the Koran. Only marital laws are connected to Islam and the Koran. Women are the only ones ruled by Islamic law in this country.

Put a fatwa watch on this guy, he protesteth too much and may soon be off to a virgin free afterlife.

the “very strong” speech, produced by Al-Qaeda’s Media Company Al-Sahab, would be an address to the Islamic nation.

"Produced" is the right word.

re: #93 opnion

Just a question. Do you think that Osama bin Dead gets more respect from the Dems than the President of the United States?

There is no question they consider him a deep thinker. Roads, schools, orphanages. Wish the USA knew how to do that stuff.
Do you think Obama would like to talk to him?

re: #94 6pat6Lol, thank you for that image, Picasso

SWEETY
stop the fear mongering

barry h. o.

re: #99 savage_nation

Well, I gotta run. Got garage sales to hit

Have fun

Good bargain hunting.

I'm out too.
Off to church, and meeting with grand parents.

Osama-bin-dead-for-a-long-time-now

re: #104 Annar

Women are the only ones ruled by Islamic law in this country.

French government and citizens will be outraged in 5...4....3....2..

re: #83 Skepsis

Skepsis, do you think they are really not doing this?

I have a theory, and there are others that share my rationale.

If Al Gore had been President during 911, we would have responded, much in similar fashion after Saddam kicked the inspectors out in 1998, and lobbed a few cruise missiles as a result.

We would have claimed Bin Laden dead, any subsequent recordings declared propaganda, and the world is much safer.

Only problem, is this did not work in Somalia, nor the first attack on the WTC in 93.

In did not work for the bombing of our compound in Saudi Arabia, nor the Embassies, or the Cole.

I truly think, there are folks in the chain of command who see an existential threat for what it is, and not just a law enforcement issue.

We eliminate the command and control center, or actually let them know how far we have dug into their network, we lose operational superiority.

Think for a minute.

Recall from a couple years ago in Yemen?

The drone taking out a car with a Hell Fire?

Or the procession of of "leaders" found in Iraq?

Never show all of your cards, never.

re: #107 n in wi

Anything I can do to help!

re: #93 opnion

Just a question. Do you think that Osama bin Dead gets more respect from the Dems than the President of the United States?

I recall a sign on a local moonbats car depicting OBL saying: "I'm still free. Sorry about you!" Made me want to spit.

re: #95 The Other Les

This new speech by OBL will be followed by the release of a new novel by L. Ron Hubbard.

Signed, I presume?

helllllloooo....

re: #108 yochanan

SWEETY
stop the fear mongering

barry h. o.

Barry's "firm" diplomacy:

"Stop right there! Group hug on me"
((((((BO))))))

I think he's going to announce a rate hike is the Islamic Nations postage stamps.. but buy Jihad 65 cent now and they are good for the rest of the year.

re: #95 The Other Les

This new speech by OBL will be followed by the release of a new novel by L. Ron Hubbard.

With a preface by Xenu and bounus coupons for purchasing secret religious instruction?

Cor: bounus --> bonus

is =in

re: #113 formercorpsman

On the other side, ever wonder why France so willingly ,almost insisted that they would take care of enforcing the truce in Lebanon,in the conflict in2006?
Maybe Israel troops would be a little closer to Iraqi WMD in Syria?

the dead s o b is going to bash america, invite us to join his satanic cult and then endorse his name sake osama obama. no thanks on all counts.

t

Nothing has been released since Tora Bora which could actually be used for a voiceprint- quality is utter trash. If bin Laden were alive, he'd be making a new 5-minute video every day holding the New York Times and maybe reading 20 seconds of the nastiest anti-American commentary from it as part of his address.

Being any sort of effective rabble-rouser requires constant public presentation. Winston Smith's 1984 was replete with Big Brother images for damn good reasons of psychology and marketing. Osama's failure to do this satisfies me that he's dead.

So why doesn't Bush announce this? Several possibilities- the corpse might be under a thousand tons of rock or otherwise unavailable. Bush's advisors may fear establishing Osama as a shahid- right now, those who say he's alive have to explain his apparent cowardice. Maybe most important, the Democrats have lacked the big picture for decades. An Osama bin Dead'un would become a weapon against continuing the War on Terror, no matter how many terror cells and terror leaders are still out there.

As humans gain power over their environment, we become better fed and healthier. Unavoidably, perversion of these powers allows individuals to become more dangerous. We as a species need to start addressing severe socal pathologies more aggressively, before someone with a grudge against the human race acquires a vial of super-smallpox and blows it into the air vents at O'Hare. This leaves us with two choices- we can address such problems proactively, while they're still small, and run the risk of narrow minds with no future vision calling us warmongers, or we can wait until the nihilists and lunatics have almost won to blow them into a glass parking lot for all eternity.

The Democrats keep insisting on the latter, so that even fools are satisfied that there was a serious threat and no other choice. I look at that strategy and wonder how many innocent people will get vaporized because their leader was a madman. The typical Hiroshiman wasn't guilty of anything.

Bush is almost certainly saving millions of Muslim lives by acting now and in this way- we should make a point of saying so. The War on Terror is much bigger than any particular leader, even if he's still wanted dead or alive.

Dave

Let me get this straight:

Lives in Cave
No modern conveniences
Wipes butt with hand not paper
Has Media Company to produce films which he directs from cave while dead
Likely to be a dried splat on wall...
What exactly is the "Islamic" nation? Another cave?

And I should be waiting for him to tell me what?

I guess it's hard to release videotape when all they've got left by now is black-and-white home movies from the '60s.

Over the course of the recent years, the brand has been transformed from a saucer eyes stimulus to an assertive voice in the dark, from a man of the year appearance into a carrier of timeless soundbites, from a nearly individualistic personality cult into an intransparent pulpit allowing for a rotation of speakers.

Recently, whenever the dead saint propaganda machine talked it had little insightful to say... last time it said blasphemic cartoons were worse than civilian casualties (such as the publication of the Abu Ghraib pics was seen as worse than the depicted events), a statement leaving only one thing more puzzling than its psychology - its purpose.

Empty announcements like this might be a sign that the brand has run out of ideas and is now beginning to actively look out for something the dead saint propaganda machine could be saying just to continue to exist as a brand.

They'd better stick to audio until and if they get better Ladendoubles for videos.

Might be a good idea to arrest any recent arrivals from Asia on student visas that went into film programs...

re: #128 Sacred Plants

leaving only one thing more puzzling than its psychology - its purpose.

Empty announcements like this might be a sign that the brand has run out of ideas and is now beginning to actively look out for something the dead saint propaganda machine could be saying just to continue to exist as a brand.

Thinking that perhaps it's only purpose now is to give the Left a pretext for screaming how come Bush hasn't committed all our military from Guam to Georgia to hunt for Osama Bin Snipe Hunt Laden.

They got their idea from the movie El Cid. You know, where the Spanish strapped Charlton Heston's dead body to his horse, and he rode out at the head of his army to defeat the Moors.

Now if al-Quaeda could arrange something like that, instead of a boring old audio tape, it would be pretty cool.

Charlie,
Really, what makes you think that old Binnie is dead? I am not saying that he isn't. I would just like to see the evidence you have.

Thanks

re: #132 Mats

Why prove he's dead? What benefit is there to trying to dig up a million pounds of rubble, to possibly find some DNA, out of distant mountains to prove a death? The question your type evade is what evidence is there that a man is alive.

You know? Press conference...written letter...video holding a recent newspaper...camera phone snapshot....

Why is the onus on strangers thousands of miles away to prove a death when the living person can show he's alive so easily?

Let's see Finnerjacket can have a conference on whether the holocaust ever happened and scholar and politicians actually attend.

And every other week, we have anothe "WORLD ANNOUNCEMENT FROM BIN LADEN" broadcast & published by the MSM around the world.

The one thing none of these idiots ever ask the muslims who post these pronouncements or Al Jasneerah for that matter is:

PROVE BIN LADIN IS ALIVE!

Let's see some contemporary footage that cannot be refuted.
The MSM continues to play the Bin Ladin cash cow anoouncements.

WHERE'S THE PROOF HE'S ALIVE?

HEY JIHADIS, PROVE BIN LADIN IS ALIVE.

Dinnerjacket, have lunch with Binny lately?

re: #134 So?

I agree. From the flimsy audio and video I have seen so far, someone is going to have to prove to me he is alive. Otherwise, like you mentioned above. why wouldn't Osama be taunting us every single week, trying to make Bush look bad.

re: #130 wanumba

Thinking that perhaps it's only purpose now is to give the Left a pretext for screaming how come Bush hasn't committed all our military from Guam to Georgia to hunt for Osama Bin Snipe Hunt Laden.

Even though it may have resulted in little more than rattling the cages up to now, the Bush administration has initiated the most significant revolt against the House of Saud since the end of the gold standard.

The Saudi order to their American janissaires to hunt down the terrorists without touching the autocracies that produced them has been resonating this inherent contradiction all along. Whenever the war on terrorism had to overcome the old order, the royals and their useful idiots were screaming distraction. Saddam had incorporated Kuwait as refreshment for wiping out Israel, so these bigots only wanted it to be removed from his claw but let the aggressor continue to exist.

My impression is a major reason why the brand´s continued existence is secured by a lasting demand is that it is scarcely rivaled in the ambition to get the House of Saud unplugged from power, and that family´s private name removed from the nation´s public one. This is why the brand will continue to be able to sustain attractivity, even though the original business idea - finishing off the janissaires would create the preconditions for unplugging the monarchy - did not work out up to this point.