But a bible in urine is A OK?

Maybe he was tired of seeing his friends get riddled with bullets. By people who follow the directions in the Koran.

Don't suicide bombers usually carry a Koran on them when they blow themselves up?

Seems like that would cause more damage than a few bullet holes.

re: #1 pegcity

But a bible in urine is A OK?

Offending Christians is always okay. Happens everywhere nowadays. It's 'progressive' and 'hip' to look down on them.

Hard for the rest of the muslim community to get upset if reuters doesn't promote this story.

Hey give the guy some slack, he probably actually read the thing and got pissed when he did.

“I was feeling bitterness, but as long as they apologized we are OK with them. Our anger has cooled,”

You know, I can understand being mad. If I found a Bible that someone had used for target practice, I would be upset. But that's it. I wouldn't seethe, or riot- and this guy Zubaie seems pretty level headed about the whole thing, and is ready to let it go. But Reuters and it's writers are not letting it go, they're trying to get something started, as the saying goes.

I would much rather we all riddle the Koran with questions.

re: #5 Sharmuta

Exactly!

Hide the women, children, and KFCs, the Saracens are about to riot.

Meanwhile, Christian churches are burned, parishoners assaulted and all I hear from al reuters is.....crickets.

re: #8 jaunte

I would much rather we all riddle the Koran with questions.

Here's a whole page from which to start- Contradictions in the koran.

And how many Qurans went up in smoke when various islamic shrines and mosques were blown up by AQ and other 'insurgents'? Yet that was never the front page item reported by Al Reuters. I bet if a soldier read the Quran while eating a BLT, the caliphs at AlReuters would also have a royal meltdown.

Some parts of the Koran do need to be removed IMHO but that's just my humble opinion

Of course I'm not allowed to think that by some people

They'd riddle me if they could

re: #10 Mister Ghost

Hide the women, children, and KFCs, the Saracens are about to riot.

KFC? You mean Kentucky Fried Chicken? Haven't they already gone halal?

re: #7 gop_patriot

You know, I can understand being mad. If I found a Bible that someone had used for target practice, I would be upset. But that's it. I wouldn't seethe, or riot- and this guy Zubaie seems pretty level headed about the whole thing, and is ready to let it go. But Reuters and it's writers are not letting it go, they're trying to get something started, as the saying goes.

And when US troops or other muslim are injured or killed by any riots or other actions- I'll be sure to look to reuters.

re: #7 gop_patriot

And as everyone here knows, Christians don't revere or worship the book itself, but it's contents. It's just paper and ink. So if it falls apart, drops into a mud puddle, or gets lost, fine, go buy another one.

re: #10 Mister Ghost

Hide the women, children, and KFCs, the Saracens are about to riot.

That is the plan, especially now that weather in Europe is warm enough to sustain one.

re: #15 galloping granny

KFC was not in the time of the profit!,....er prohet.

Paging Rage Boy, paging Rage Boy...

It looks like quick action by our military to deal with the situation has Reuters wondering what it takes to stir up trouble against the US military where there is none. It's a shame our soldiers have to fight the terrorist enabling MSM as well as the terrorists themselves.

the commander in that story dhimmied like a good lil dhimmy

First Amendment says I can shoot holes through this book anytime I please. I mean it doesn't seem to bother people when the First Amendment is shot.

/McCain-Feingold

re: #8 jaunte

I would much rather we all riddle the Koran with questions.

True. Anyway, a bullet can't hurt ideas. It is a book guys, relax.

Spend more time defending the book's ideas.

LOL, the next Obama tape, I mean Osama tape, will cover this incident.

One can do more damage to the enemy by reading the Qur'an, taking note of its inimical verses -- 3:28, 3:118, 4:138-139, 5:51, 9:5, 9:29, 9:123, 48:29, 60:1, 60:4, et al. -- and informing other infidels of them than by shooting at it.

For practice of the latter sort, use an IPSC target or a B-27, and make sure you can hit the bridge as quickly as you can the boiler room.

OK, class, in a 100 word essay, compare and contrast the mainstream media portrayal of the following events:
(1) the criticism of the NEA's funding of Andres Serrano's "Piss Christ";
(2) Rudy Giuilani's criticism of Chris Offili's "The Holy Virgin Mary"; and
(3) a bullet ridden Koran.

"Our anger has cooled,” said Zubaie,

Is it me, or do Muslims seem to get angry easily and often? Perhaps if we just become submissive to them, all will become as Paradise.

/dhimmi stupid suggestion

I'd rather see "infidels riddle splodey dopes with bullets".

there's just something not right abt. this bizarre effort to make nice w/ these people and a book. it's so pc and over the top w/ the kissing of the koran. it's a war screed. i bet the islamists, themselves, are confused at our absurd posturing and fawning. is this a clever rouse to throw them off track, keep them wondering if we are really fighting a war. or are they out right laughing at us. this kind of bending over backwards just seems counterproductive.

Dang, don't that just beat all!
On the one hand, the US military is told to never even touch a Koran because if a Khaffir touches it, it is desecrated, and then on the other hand, they are told to kiss it!

What about the fellows who took over the 'Church of the Nativity' some years ago, and used the Bible to wipe their a$$?

I really don't know if we're ever going to get anywhere acting like this. Sure the guy was stupid doing such a thing....but now any soldier who wants out of Iraq knows what to do.... maybe the fellow on yesterdays' post who refuses to fight an 'illegal war' will just give up and go to Iraq and as soon as he has NATO rounds, loose a few into a Koran. I mean really now, how much punishment can you get for shooting a book? Like we used to say in the Army, "what are they gonna do, send me back to The World"? LOL

All grist to the mill.

We should be beaming a 24hr koran dececration, prophet defamation tv channel across the middle east. Just to try and desensitize them

re: #31 russiankulak

Dang, don't that just beat all!
On the one hand, the US military is told to never even touch a Koran because if a Khaffir touches it, it is desecrated, and then on the other hand, they are told to kiss it!

What about the fellows who took over the 'Church of the Nativity' some years ago, and used the Bible to wipe their a$$?

I really don't know if we're ever going to get anywhere acting like this. Sure the guy was stupid doing such a thing....but now any soldier who wants out of Iraq knows what to do.... maybe the fellow on yesterdays' post who refuses to fight an 'illegal war' will just give up and go to Iraq and as soon as he has NATO rounds, loose a few into a Koran. I mean really now, how much punishment can you get for shooting a book? Like we used to say in the Army, "what are they gonna do, send me back to The World"? LOL

Yup. And I really object to ANY officer in the United Stated Military kissing the koran or any other book.

re: #25 Mister Ghost

LOL, the next Obama tape, I mean Osama tape, will cover this incident.

The Al-Qaida Rich Little will do his best to get some new info into his new speech.

re: #31 russiankulak

Dang, don't that just beat all!
On the one hand, the US military is told to never even touch a Koran because if a Khaffir touches it, it is desecrated, and then on the other hand, they are told to kiss it!

What about the fellows who took over the 'Church of the Nativity' some years ago, and used the Bible to wipe their a$$?

I really don't know if we're ever going to get anywhere acting like this. Sure the guy was stupid doing such a thing....but now any soldier who wants out of Iraq knows what to do.... maybe the fellow on yesterdays' post who refuses to fight an 'illegal war' will just give up and go to Iraq and as soon as he has NATO rounds, loose a few into a Koran. I mean really now, how much punishment can you get for shooting a book? Like we used to say in the Army, "what are they gonna do, send me back to The World"? LOL

That's not fair. The act of desicration you refer to was against Christians and you should know that that is fair game. Come on, what's wrong with you?

re: #11 pingjockey

Meanwhile, Christian churches are burned, parishoners assaulted and all I hear from al reuters is.....crickets.

Yep!

I just found out yesterday about the Assyrian genocide...by the Ottomans as encouraged by Germany during WWI.

And no one even mentioned it!

It was I think the first usage of Jihad in modern times...

If you want a linkie I can look for it again...someone here linked to it in the linkviewer yesterday.

re: #4 ec marm

Offending Christians is always okay. Happens everywhere nowadays. It's 'progressive' and 'hip' to look down on them.

And nobody complains when Jews are called "sons of pigs and monkeys"; there is no worldwide seething when synagogues are defaced or destroyed, but leave a pig's head on a mosque doorstep and it is a huge crime.
(I'm not saying we should leave a pig's head on a mosque doorstep, though)

IMHO, Reuters is puffing this stoiry in hopes that the Islamicists will go on a rampage, preferably in Iraq and w/American targets. This would confirm their belief that Islamic Rage is caused by Western insensitivity and is really our fault.
The story also can easily be spun to "prove" that our military is, indeed, composed of idiotic Neanderthals. Our presence in Iraq is thus rightly opposed by the ever-valiant "insurgents."

/Not that I'm questioning their patriotism.

re: #16 Sharmuta

Khalid Al-Ansary is Iraqi, from Baghdad it seems.

I see that Reuters is not checking us much lately...

Well now, lookee here -

Web Site Sympathetic to Terrorists Blasts FOX News for Profile

An English-language Web site that unabashedly promotes the work of Islamic terrorists has responded to a FOXNews.com profile of the site by assailing "the Kuffaar behind FOX News." Kuffaar, roughly translated, means "unbelievers."

After quoting FOX News.com's Friday story and citing verses from the Koran, the Revolution.Muslimpad.com blog affirms the belief that jihad is "an Islaamic obligation" rooted in Muslim texts.

"So in reality, you are calling my Prophet, Muhammad — peace be upon him — a terrorist," the blog post continues. "But of course, you guys won’t say that directly because you fear the wrath of the Muslims."

I guess if the shoe fits . . . . .

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

The Qur'an already has so many holes in it that a few more would not matter. In any case the punctured product could be marketed as the Swiss version and no sales would be lost.

re: #22 allbusiness

the commander in that story dhimmied like a good lil dhimmy

I disagree 110%. As I've explained in a previous post,we have to look at the Big Picture. The lives of American Soldiers,as well as Iraqi's, is on the line and any intel that can be gathered from the locals is crucial to the safety of our Soldiers. We want that river of intel to keep flowing,not dry up because some moron did something stupid. If you believe the Koran is just a book when it is shot full of holes,then it is still just a book for this Commander. The Commander is to be commended for quick action that very damn well may have saved us from seeing the flow of intel to our people in the field cut off. I said that before and I believe this article proves I was right. Like I said before,that's a small price to pay to save American lives and help kill the bad guys.

I would imagine that during this presidential race,our enemies (both combatants and media sympathizers) will do their best to ratchet up the violence to help their Democrat brothers win the White House.

re: #37 Psaturn

Yep!

I just found out yesterday about the Assyrian genocide...by the Ottomans as encouraged by Germany during WWI.

And no one even mentioned it!

It was I think the first usage of Jihad in modern times...

If you want a linkie I can look for it again...someone here linked to it in the linkviewer yesterday.

That would be good.

Speaking of the Ottomans, you know the entire claim of Arab ownership of "palestine" is so much hokum, as the area that is today Israel, Syria, Jordan and more was until 1918 part of the Ottoman Empire (Turkey today).

I get more upset when people get riddled with bullets.

I'm unconcerned about desecrating the koran, since it's essentially a manifesto of hate. In fact, I'd not be adverse to doing a bit of target practice myself. I can do that. I'm a civilian.

But that's not the issue here. Our military doesn't recruit morons, so the soldier in question should have known better.
When I was in the military, we were subjected to endless lectures on how to avoid offending the sensibilities of our host nationals. A military person is an ambassador to the locals, they would say, ad-nausium. I can't believe that the same doesn't hold true today, also.
This soldier needs to be disciplined under the UCMJ and re-assigned to Afghanistan. Otherwise, malcontent soldiers might get the idea that such behavior could be their ticket out. It was a stupid thing to do that has the potential of adversely affecting our progress in the GWOT.

re: #34 galloping granny

Yup. And I really object to ANY officer in the United Stated Military kissing the koran or any other book.

i agree. it's not the right approach. it's not going to win hearts and minds. it is irrational behavior and does not inspire confidence.

Really bullet riddled

Must be a slow 'news' day for Reuters.

I'm supposed to feel shock and horror because a US soldier did something stupid, was punished and the military took appropriate action.

Okay, I guess.

Too bad Reuters doesn't show this same kind of concern when Islamic terrorists riddle a bunch of civilians with shrapnel, bullets, and bombs when they target shopping centers, markets, and restaurants.

And I'm talking Muslims on Muslim violence, to say nothing of the terrorism against Israel, that occurs on a daily basis.

re: #44 WayDownSouthInBama

Your argument is a very good one.
(I still think kissing the Koran goes too far, but .........)

re: #40 gop_patriot

Khalid Al-Ansary is Iraqi, from Baghdad it seems.

I hope they're not paying him much for that kind of dear-diary navel-gazing.

re: #40 gop_patriot

Khalid Al-Ansary is Iraqi, from Baghdad it seems.

Now, after four years of working with the BBC, Reuters, Guardian, Sky News and The New York Times, I feel that I like this craft and it has become part of me. My whole life has changed; I am now a reporter and can’t fit anywhere else but journalism.

I guess that means we can expect more of his objective reporting in the future.

I think the commanders did the right thing. It's a simple reality that they have to deal with over there; and only senior military commanders will get the necessary tribal respect to cool it down.

It's still absurd though.

re: #55 Sharmuta

I guess that means we can expect more of his objective reporting in the future.

I can think of a few places he would fit.

re: #54 jaunte

It is kind of sappy, isn't it?

I suppose Geoff Millard of the IVAW will wave this like a bloody shirt to prove what he preaches about our troops being racists.

re: #58 gop_patriot

This in particulra:
"When you come from an Eastern society, it is a bit hard to be rejected when you ask for something..."
So everyone there gets what they want? This is just silly.

(Particular)

i feel abt. this koran kissing and coddling like i did when i saw pres. bush holding hands w/ the saudi king and shuffling w/ that sword blade so close to his neck. an uneasiness in my gut.

re: #44 WayDownSouthInBama

I disagree 110%. As I've explained in a previous post,we have to look at the Big Picture. The lives of American Soldiers,as well as Iraqi's, is on the line and any intel that can be gathered from the locals is crucial to the safety of our Soldiers. We want that river of intel to keep flowing,not dry up because some moron did something stupid. If you believe the Koran is just a book when it is shot full of holes,then it is still just a book for this Commander. The Commander is to be commended for quick action that very damn well may have saved us from seeing the flow of intel to our people in the field cut off. I said that before and I believe this article proves I was right. Like I said before,that's a small price to pay to save American lives and help kill the bad guys.

Did you see the video of the commander (I posted it in the spinoff links - Charles, I emailed you a link too). I felt sorry for the commander. He practically got down on his knees and begged forgiveness. Kind of absurd.

Screw you Reuters! Your nothing but wasted internet space like Huffpo and Kos.

re: #49 nyc redneck

i agree. it's not the right approach. it's not going to win hearts and minds. it is irrational behavior and does not inspire confidence.

I have no problem with someone kissing a copy of Tulio Levi-Cita's "The Absolute Differential Calculus" and neither would Einstein, he used it. As for "holy" books, there's no explaining poor taste in literature.

Meh. I just hope the grouping was tight.

Sounds to me like everyone in the story acted pretty well grown up.

Soldier shoots up a Koran, which isn't the end of the world but isn't brilliant.

Army says, 'We're sorry about that.'

Local Muslim community says, 'Cool' and doesn't burn anything down.

A rare exchange, I'd say.

re: #38 Kosh's Shadow

And nobody complains when Jews are called "sons of pigs and monkeys"; there is no worldwide seething when synagogues are defaced or destroyed, but leave a pig's head on a mosque doorstep and it is a huge crime.
(I'm not saying we should leave a pig's head on a mosque doorstep, though)

In the past year in this country we've seen a shooter go into a Jewish organization and a Christian Church and shoot and kill people in both. But yet the press feels that Muslims are the 'oppressed'. Has the equivalent occurred in a mosque in this country?

re: #48 jamsler

I'm unconcerned about desecrating the koran, since it's essentially a manifesto of hate. In fact, I'd not be adverse to doing a bit of target practice myself. I can do that. I'm a civilian.

But that's not the issue here. Our military doesn't recruit morons, so the soldier in question should have known better.
When I was in the military, we were subjected to endless lectures on how to avoid offending the sensibilities of our host nationals. A military person is an ambassador to the locals, they would say, ad-nausium. I can't believe that the same doesn't hold true today, also.
This soldier needs to be disciplined under the UCMJ and re-assigned to Afghanistan. Otherwise, malcontent soldiers might get the idea that such behavior could be their ticket out. It was a stupid thing to do that has the potential of adversely affecting our progress in the GWOT.

You made the point I was about to write. It seems to me that the soldier disobeyed orders

About the Koran-kissing: was the officer a Muslim? That would sort of make sense.

If not, as WayDownSouthInBama's (#44) point is well taken. No one had to convert to Islam or denounce their own religion.

This is also a terrific example showing that we are NOT an occupying power but an ally helping to establish and maintain sovereignty.

re: #59 Jonn Lilyea

I suppose Geoff Millard of the IVAW will wave this like a bloody shirt to prove what he preaches about our troops being racists.

Islam is not a race, it is a religion. Sometimes people forget that little detail. I try that out on lefty's all the time, and they can't get their heads around it and change the subject then.

re: #46 galloping granny

That would be good.

Speaking of the Ottomans, you know the entire claim of Arab ownership of "palestine" is so much hokum, as the area that is today Israel, Syria, Jordan and more was until 1918 part of the Ottoman Empire (Turkey today).

And divided by Britain and France in the aftermath of World War II. In fact, the term 'naqba' originally referred to Bedouin tribesmen now known as 'Palestinians' being cut off from Syria in 1920.

re: #56 Charles

I think the commanders did the right thing. It's a simple reality that they have to deal with over there; and only senior military commanders will get the necessary tribal respect to cool it down.

It's still absurd though.

I do not object to the apology. If a member of the US military did indeed use the koran for target practice, he did so knowing full well exactly what would happen. Our military gets an extremely thorough training in local expectations before they are sent overseas to a muslim country. Or elsewhere for that matter. In areas where military can take their spouses overseas, even the family members are given this training.

I do, however, object to a United States mililtary officer actually kissing the koran.

re: #71 Carl in Jerusalem

And divided by Britain and France in the aftermath of World War II. In fact, the term 'naqba' originally referred to Bedouin tribesmen now known as 'Palestinians' being cut off from Syria in 1920.

Sorry. Make that World War I.

What cranks my gears is the humiliation endured by the Major who had to deliver (and kiss! a copy of the koran and , with hat in hand, apologize (grovel?) for someone elses actions.
It will be a shame if "rooters' trys to make this another Abu Grav (forgive the mispelling)!

re: #72 galloping granny

Agreed, all the way around.

If an Iraqi soldier used a Bible for target practice, I certainly wouldn't riot or burn anything or kill anyone. But it would irritate me, and an apology would go a long way toward making amends.

re: #74 Shaky Louie

The Major may want to keep that soldier close by where he can keep an eye on him.

re: #56 Charles

It's still absurd though.

Especially the kissing part. Ugh.

re: #71 Carl in Jerusalem

And divided by Britain and France in the aftermath of World War II. In fact, the term 'naqba' originally referred to Bedouin tribesmen now known as 'Palestinians' being cut off from Syria in 1920.

Carl, somebody posted a link a couple of days ago to an archive I had never seen of pictures of Israel through about 1930. You should take a look at it.

One of the things that really struck me was that they had pictures of a number of Arab villages that are in what is now Israel. Mud huts with thatch roofs. They sure as heck did not have any keys to the doors.

You should find it fairly easily by finding my comment about an archive the PA used to have on their website and following the comments down a little bit.

re: #76 jaunte

The Major may want to keep that soldier close by where he can keep an eye on him.

he has already been disciplined and ordered out of iraq. (according to the story)

Who doesn't riddle Koran's with bullets? Usual its in someones hand though.

re: #79 nyc redneck

Just thinking that may have been what he was after.

re: #74 Shaky Louie

What cranks my gears is the humiliation endured by the Major who had to deliver (and kiss! a copy of the koran and , with hat in hand, apologize (grovel?) for someone elses actions.
It will be a shame if "rooters' trys to make this another Abu Grav (forgive the mispelling)!

The major did it because if they had followed the same practice followed by every mother of a five year old who steals a candy bar and made the troop do it himself the mob would have torn him to pieces.

re: #80 U.S.S. Nixon

Right. I'm sure you've done a great deal of that.

The point here is that if a US soldier did this then that soldier should be removed from the theater of operations. We have no time to do damage control. And Reuters can help by shitcanning this story.

They should have shot up a copy of the Bible or the Torah.....I am certain Rueters would have reported this incident as well......right?....right? Well, maybe not, but at least the tribal leaders that were so offended about the Koran being shot up would not appreciate another holy book being desecrated either....right?......right? Oh yeah, I forget, only Muslims are allowed to have thin skin and over-react to every little provocation.

That being said, shooting up that damn book is not a good idea when you are trying to win "hearts and minds".

re: #83 Cognito

Right. I'm sure you've done a great deal of that.

I think he forgot his sarc tag.

re: #84 Point Blank

The point here is that if a US soldier did this then that soldier should be removed from the theater of operations. We have no time to do damage control. And Reuters can help by shitcanning this story.

Reuters has no interest in helping to bring order out of chaos in the mideast. Order is not newsworthy. Chaos is.

Once more lopsided dhimmitudinal coverage by the liberal media. I suppose Keith Olberman will play this incident up alongside his Cold Blooded Killers comment referring to our troops. Afterall... to the liberal mind, the U.S. is the root of all evil in the world.
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re: #81 jaunte

Just thinking that may have been what he was after.

that crossed my mind too.

re: #5 Sharmuta

Hard for the rest of the muslim community to get upset if reuters doesn't promote this story.

Islamic Rage Boy to begin seething in 3...2...1...

re: #63 Carl in Jerusalem

No,I'm on dial-up so I'm lucky to even see still photos much less moving pictures. I understand everyone being upset over the Koran kissing thing,but let me just repost what I posted back in another thread:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

If everyone would just think for a little bit,and place themselves in the shoes of that Commander. You rely on local intel to save the lives of your men. You need that intel and now you face a situation where that intel is going to stop. You KNOW good soldiers are going to die if it stops and you are the only one that has a chance to keep that intel flowing. Would you kiss a Koran if you knew it would keep intel flowing and that would save the lives of your men,or would you refuse to do it and watch them die knowing you could have stopped it?

Don't know about you guys,but I'd have kissed it ...twice...if I knew it would save American lives. It's just a book,remember?

re: #81 jaunte

Just thinking that may have been what he was after.

Why didn't Matthis Chiroux think of that?!

I wish I could go through history and see exactly how many dominant societies (Romans, Greeks, Chaldeans, etc.) actually apologized for the desecration of something that the dominated society held dear> I really don't give a rat's butt about PC but it sure as hell sends a maessage of weakness to the oposition.

(sigh) Once again, we are defeating ourselves.

"Newsflash! Muslim shoots Bible in act of defiance. Christian mobs seethe and riot, burn mosques and set off bombs!"

I mean, it could happen, no?

I think an apology and an acceptance that it was stupid and puerile would have been good enough. Sucking up and kissing ass would be bad.

This is also a thread at Jihadwatch.org

Hugh Fitzgerald suggested in the comments that the American military has lost 15,000 Captains because of the unpopular Iraqi war.

I am now about to catch hell because I say its just not true and back it up with facts.

re: #92 Sharmuta

Matthis is thinking of his political future; he wouldn't want to jeopardize those votes!

I'll bet there's not a commander in the military who wouldn't prefer kissing a Koran to trying to control rioting mobs of enraged fanatics.

I get upset when I see any book being destroyed.
Even though I don't believe the Bible is the absolute "Word of God", I am offended when I see anyone destroy or debase it.
How does the average Muslim feel when a soldier of the United States of America uses a Koran as a target?
I'll ask some of my Muslim friends when I'm in Indonesia in a couple of weeks. I'm sure they won't be seething, but maybe just a little offended.

But for the MSM to try to whip this incident up is really despicable.

re: #91 WayDownSouthInBama

No,I'm on dial-up so I'm lucky to even see still photos much less moving pictures. I understand everyone being upset over the Koran kissing thing,but let me just repost what I posted back in another thread:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

If everyone would just think for a little bit,and place themselves in the shoes of that Commander. You rely on local intel to save the lives of your men. You need that intel and now you face a situation where that intel is going to stop. You KNOW good soldiers are going to die if it stops and you are the only one that has a chance to keep that intel flowing. Would you kiss a Koran if you knew it would keep intel flowing and that would save the lives of your men,or would you refuse to do it and watch them die knowing you could have stopped it?

Don't know about you guys,but I'd have kissed it ...twice...if I knew it would save American lives. It's just a book,remember?

I wasn't talking about kissing the book. Big deal. I was talking about the way the officer had to humiliate himself. According to CNN, this guy is the commander of all US forces in Iraq. And he BEGS them for forgiveness.... Literally.

re: #87 galloping granny

Yes, you're right. I am wasting my breath when I criticize MSM.

re: #97 Charles

I'll bet there's not a commander in the military who wouldn't prefer kissing a Koran to trying to control rioting mobs of enraged fanatics.

In today's climate you are probably correct. Patton surely would not have agreed.