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Obama: Iran Threat is 'Tiny' and It's George Bush's Fault

Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:19:37 am PDT

Anyone watching Barack Obama making ludicrous ahistorical comparisons between Iran and the Soviet Union, to argue that the threat from Iran is “tiny”—and that George Bush’s policies are to blame for this tiny threat?

They’re broadcasting Barack’s latest crazy exciting speech on Fox. Here’s an open thread to discuss it...

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1 Nevergiveup  5/19/08 10:20:16 am reply quote

This guy is dangerous.

2 VegasRick  5/19/08 10:20:25 am reply quote

Obambi is an idiot.

3 zombie  5/19/08 10:20:37 am reply quote

Just a teeny tiny mushroom cloud. Nothing to worry about.

4 gop_patriot  5/19/08 10:21:01 am reply quote

Dang it, I don't have FoxNews. :/

5 Athos  5/19/08 10:21:38 am reply quote

Well, Barry's right about one thing, we are at a defining point in history.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

6 Peacekeeper  5/19/08 10:21:46 am reply quote

He's out of control. He's flying to pieces right in front of our eyes.

7 bosforus  5/19/08 10:22:26 am reply quote

Not currently listening to it but I'm guessing this is the start of his plan to appease everyone in the middle east and to back out of ever having to send the military into Iran.

8 Bill Amos  5/19/08 10:22:26 am reply quote

There are no tiny threats only tiny appeasers

9 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  5/19/08 10:22:40 am reply quote

Because it was George Bush's fault for not backing the Shah and allowing the Islamists to take over Iran and then support global terrorism for the last 30 or so years.

Wait a sec....

10 Peacekeeper  5/19/08 10:22:43 am reply quote

Obama: Iran Threat is 'Tiny'

SHRINKAGE!

11 Nevergiveup  5/19/08 10:22:51 am reply quote

re: #4 gop_patriot

Dang it, I don't have FoxNews. :/

On this one your the lucky one.

12 Athos  5/19/08 10:22:54 am reply quote

Tax and spend, appease and surrender.

13 ATC Guy  5/19/08 10:22:58 am reply quote

Yup, Iran is a small problem, just like a small tactical nuke only kills a small percentage of the population.

14 zombie  5/19/08 10:23:03 am reply quote

It's a ridiculous comparison.

"The Soviet Union had enough nukes to completely obliterate life on Earth. Iran, by comparison, may only make enough nukes to kill a measly ten million people. The threat is tiny by comparison! What's ten million people more or less?"

15 Ziggy  5/19/08 10:23:06 am reply quote

I'm sure it's only a "tiny" nuclear bomb they're trying to build.

16 tapeworm  5/19/08 10:23:26 am reply quote

Tiny Change

17 zombie  5/19/08 10:23:30 am reply quote

re: #9 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Because it was George Bush's fault for not backing the Shah and allowing the Islamists to take over Iran and then support global terrorism for the last 30 or so years.

Wait a sec....

DING DING DING!

18 buzzsawmonkey  5/19/08 10:23:30 am reply quote

Hey, Barack?

1) Hostility to the US.

2) Nuclear weapon.

3) Containerized freight.

4) Partial inspection.

5) Cell phone detonation.

6) Obama: "Oops."

19 Bill Amos  5/19/08 10:23:46 am reply quote

BTW a regeme which is blowing our troops up in Iraq and funneling weapons to terrorist organizations like Hamas is not a Tiny threat.

Obama seems to have no problem wish Islamic murderous regemes or groups

20 Athos  5/19/08 10:23:49 am reply quote

This guy is nothing but Carter redux.

21 ackomanyuki  5/19/08 10:23:58 am reply quote

This man is indeed an idiot. Iran is more of a threat than the Soviets ever were. All he has to do is listen to a Sting song to know that:...the Russians love their children too......

22 Silhouette  5/19/08 10:23:59 am reply quote

Only threatened to wipe an entire country off the map and daily working towards nuclear weapons. What could be more harmless than that?

/

23 maddogg  5/19/08 10:24:22 am reply quote

Obama is vying for tenure at UC Irvine.

24 David Simon  5/19/08 10:24:45 am reply quote
the threat from Iran is “tiny”—and that George Bush’s policies are to blame for this tiny threat

Boilerplate leftism: The only truly evil people in this world are Republicans.

25 Nevergiveup  5/19/08 10:24:58 am reply quote

I guess when Iran nukes Israel, and Israel responds by taking out a good part of the middle east and south Russia, and then it spreads to Europe, Barry will just have to say : OOPS!

26 psaturn  5/19/08 10:25:03 am reply quote

I think Obama is getting angrier and angrier...

I was reading an article about Obama telling the Republicans to lay off his wife. He was using the reasoning that Republicans was for family values and that their attacking his wife was against family values that the Republican espouse...

Huh?

27 bald headed geek  5/19/08 10:25:04 am reply quote

He's atrocious. And the scary thing is, he may very well be our next President. It'll be like having a younger version of President Peanut Farmer in the White House.

BHG

28 zombie  5/19/08 10:25:08 am reply quote

re: #18 buzzsawmonkey

...
6) Obama: "Oops."

Actually, it will be:

6) Obama: "IT"S BUSH'S FAULT!"

29 jcm  5/19/08 10:25:20 am reply quote

Hey!

B. Hussein's right.

Iran can only field a few kilotons.
Russian had Gigatons.

What's the core of an American city or Tel-Aviv in the big picture?

See nothing to worry about, beside when B. Hussein's POTUS he'll be best buds with Dinnerjacket.

No worries

////

30 Peacekeeper  5/19/08 10:25:24 am reply quote

The threat is tiny?

For a minute there I thought you was quoting Michelle.

31 Iron Fist  5/19/08 10:25:30 am reply quote

re: #3 zombie,

Iran can only build small atomic bombs. Nothing to fear here.

32 chedub  5/19/08 10:25:35 am reply quote

Bush's fault? They've only been attacking and killing Americans since 1979.

It's because of Bush the threat is tiny. If they were allowed to do as they please with out the fear of repercussion they would likely have a full nuclear arsenal now.

Side note: Obama just said we're at a "defining moment in history." Aren't we always at a defining moment? I'd like to see someone say "right now we could do nothing, cause this moment is fairly unimportant."

33 littleben  5/19/08 10:25:41 am reply quote

Israel is a "tiny" country. Its Bush's fault for not allowing it to be merged into a "democratic one state solution".

CHANGE(is now defined).

34 Mad Mullah  5/19/08 10:25:49 am reply quote

Obama was born a Muslim, he should probably know better than to spew naive, liberal garbage out of his appeasing mouth.

There is no comparison between Iran and the former Soviet Union. The Soviets were not suicidal and they did not have a death wish. The threat of mutual destruction only works with two sides that are both civilized and have a genuine desire to avoid conflict.

Iran, which is ruled by maniacal religious, terrorist supporting fanatics is a different story. ImamadJihad, the president of Iran believes in the return of some ridiculous hidden imam, and I believe that Iran would gladly sacrifice itself to further the Islamic cause.

35 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  5/19/08 10:26:17 am reply quote

re: #14 zombie

It's a ridiculous comparison.

"The Soviet Union had enough nukes to completely obliterate life on Earth. Iran, by comparison, may only make enough nukes to kill a measly ten million people. The threat is tiny by comparison! What's ten million people more or less?"

Completely insane comparison. When you're dealing with a theocracy who believes dying while killing the infidel grants you a get into paradise free card, one nuke is a nuke too many.

36 maddogg  5/19/08 10:26:20 am reply quote

re: #30 Peacekeeper

The threat is tiny?

For a minute there I thought you was quoting Michelle.

Now, thats low class:)

37 Sizzlack  5/19/08 10:26:44 am reply quote

Obama continues to talk in the past and it is driving me apeshit. It is irrelevant what MADE Iran a threat, all that is relevant is that Iran IS a threat. All that matters to him is pinning the blame on Bush for everything that is an issue, while offering zero advice on how he may approach these problems...have the moonbats degraded so much that they are willing to elect someone solely on the "Its George Bushs damn fault!" so vote for me because its HIS fault!

38 Peacekeeper  5/19/08 10:27:07 am reply quote

Japan will never attack Pearl Harbor-it would mean a war that they know they cannot win.

39 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  5/19/08 10:27:20 am reply quote

Let's re-word.

Because of George Bush, Iran is a tiny threat instead of a large threat.

There. Fixed it.

40 Nevergiveup  5/19/08 10:27:24 am reply quote

re: #35 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Completely insane comparison. When you're dealing with a theocracy who believes dying while killing the infidel grants you a get into paradise free card, one nuke is a nuke too many.

It boggles the mind why this asshole moron can't understand that?

41 buzzsawmonkey  5/19/08 10:27:28 am reply quote

"Iran is not hostile; it's just fission for a diplomatic opening."

--BHO

42 kimi  5/19/08 10:27:37 am reply quote

I've got what Fox broadcast TiVo'd and I'll transcribe it. I just spent a few minutes yelling at the TV and my obtuse junior senator (who doesn't even seem to understand that Kentucky actually shares a border with Illinois!)

43 Killian Bundy  5/19/08 10:27:43 am reply quote

re: #1 Nevergiveup

This guy is dangerous.

/more dangerous than you think

44 NoSubmission  5/19/08 10:27:54 am reply quote

Obama sees his own wife as more of a threat right now than Iran.

45 Sizzlack  5/19/08 10:28:32 am reply quote

Anyone else notice he said "there is one war we have to win, and that is the war in Afghanistan". When it came to Iraq he said nothing other than the fact hes been opposed to it since the beginning. So therefore, because hes always been opposed to it, hes fine letting our country lose if he means he gets to be President. Good god.

46 psaturn  5/19/08 10:28:39 am reply quote

Iran is a much bigger thread because of the Islamic belief behind it.

Russia at least had the 'Christian' values that prevented the war because they did not want to cause untold deaths, thus the MAD (mutual assured destruction) as a deterrence worked.

But with Islam, with destruction as a goal to read the Islamic paradise, there is no such thing as a deterrence.

47 laxmatt1984  5/19/08 10:29:33 am reply quote

The USSR had thousands of nuclear warheads; Iran has zero.

Never mind that MAD is a morally bankrupt policy.

Never mind that weapons proliferation - that is, the spread of weapons to unstable regimes - is more dangerous than a single empire possessing thousands of weapons.

Never mind that Islamic radicalism has already attacked America on a scale the USSR never dreamed of.

Never mind that Iran is currently murdering American soldiers, finding Hamas and Hezbollah, and is acting as much as a revisionist power as the USSR did in the 1950's.

You get the idea. Obama has no clue what he is talking about.

48 buzzsawmonkey  5/19/08 10:30:18 am reply quote

re: #28 zombie

Actually, it will be:

6) Obama: "IT"S BUSH'S FAULT!"

A Servant When He Reigneth

"For three things the earth is disquieted, and for four which it cannot bear. For a servant when he reigneth, and a fool when he is filled with meat; for an odious woman when she is married, and an handmaid that is heir to her mistress." -- Prov. XXX: 21-22-23.

Three things make earth unquiet
And four she cannot brook
The godly Agur counted them
And put them in a book --
Those Four Tremendous Curses
With which mankind is cursed;
But a Servant when He Reigneth
Old Agur entered first.
An Handmaid that is Mistress
We need not call upon.
A Fool when he is full of Meat
Will fall asleep anon.
An Odious Woman Married
May bear a babe and mend;
But a Servant when He Reigneth
Is Confusion to the end.

His feet are swift to tumult,
His hands are slow to toil,
His ears are deaf to reason,
His lips are loud in broil.
He knows no use for power
Except to show his might.
He gives no heed to judgment
Unless it prove him right.

Because he served a master
Before his Kingship came,
And hid in all disaster
Behind his master's name,
So, when his Folly opens
The unnecessary hells,
A Servant when He Reigneth
Throws the blame on some one else.

His vows are lightly spoken,
His faith is hard to bind,
His trust is easy boken,
He fears his fellow-kind.
The nearest mob will move him
To break the pledge he gave --
Oh, a Servant when he Reigneth
Is more than ever slave!

--Rudyard Kipling

49 bulwrk  5/19/08 10:30:27 am reply quote

A midget with a big gun can still kill you.

50 alegrias  5/19/08 10:30:29 am reply quote

Ahmedinejad is no Mikhail Gorbachov, who partnered for disarmament with Ronald Reagan.

There is no glasnost or perestroika in Iran.

JJimmy Carter is the fool who created mullacracies with nukes.

51 rawmuse  5/19/08 10:30:51 am reply quote

Stupid plus arrogant. A bad combination.

52 opnion  5/19/08 10:31:05 am reply quote

Folks he is an overly coddled product of the entitlement society.
You get the feeling that he has woolly caterpillars crawling around in his brain.
But, he pulled 75,000 people to a rally in Portland yesterday.
Fox reported it as the largest crowd ever at a rally. They will vote.

53 cblesz  5/19/08 10:31:24 am reply quote

My standard line: Obama is full of shit...I cannot believe anyone buys this crap and nobody questions him. Oh, that's right...his views on Iran are off limits.

54 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  5/19/08 10:31:39 am reply quote

Lets ask Obama this, two guys move into your neighborhood. One is a former Marine who is fairly stable, has an okay job, kind of an asshole and a reasonable collection of firearms (say me for instance :)), the other is a strung out junkie, prone to screaming fits and making threats, multiple arrests and nutty as a fruitcake, who is armed with a crappy old .38.

OK, Barry, who is more dangerous to you?

55 zombie  5/19/08 10:32:07 am reply quote

re: #35 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Completely insane comparison. When you're dealing with a theocracy who believes dying while killing the infidel grants you a get into paradise free card, one nuke is a nuke too many.

Now that I think about it, Obama has the threat assessment completely reversed.

The Soviet Union, for all its power and aggression, feared its own death. The were deterred by the principle of Mutually Assured Destruction.

The leaders of Iran are clinically insane and look forward to martyrdom and paradise.

So, my assessment is that the threat from Iran is actually much GREATER because they're not afraid to use their nukes, whereas the Soviet Union was.

56 mean Gene  5/19/08 10:32:35 am reply quote

Is Obama in de Nile?
Or is he on the side of Iran, Hezb'allah and al Qaeda?
I guess asymmetric threats are way over his head.

57 Killian Bundy  5/19/08 10:32:40 am reply quote
Barack Obama making ludicrous ahistorical comparisons between Iran and the Soviet Union, to argue that the threat from Iran is “tiny"

/Israel could not be reached for comment

58 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  5/19/08 10:33:29 am reply quote

re: #53 cblesz

My standard line: Obama is full of shit...I cannot believe anyone buys this crap and nobody questions him. Oh, that's right...his views on Iran are off limits.

I got to get me one of those race cards. They get you out of everything.

59 unrealizedviewpoint  5/19/08 10:33:49 am reply quote

Embalma is injecting the formaldehyde direct into his own veins. He must have some great need to self sabotage this campaign. American's, even the dumbest of the dumb understand the threat of Iran.

Go Embalma!

60 Honorary Yooper  5/19/08 10:33:58 am reply quote

re: #45 Sizzlack

Anyone else notice he said "there is one war we have to win, and that is the war in Afghanistan". When it came to Iraq he said nothing other than the fact hes been opposed to it since the beginning. So therefore, because hes always been opposed to it, hes fine letting our country lose if he means he gets to be President. Good god.

Of course he's against the Iraq war. It put one of his contributor's clients out of business.

61 Nevergiveup  5/19/08 10:34:12 am reply quote

Anybody still thinking of sitting out this election, only has to listen to Obama's ideas on foreign policy, proliferation of weapons, and his warped view of recent history to know it is time to step up to the plate.

62 Killian Bundy  5/19/08 10:34:43 am reply quote

re: #56 mean Gene

Is Obama in de Nile?
Or is he on the side of Iran, Hezb'allah and al Qaeda?

/ya think?

63 Sponge  5/19/08 10:35:00 am reply quote

Just an opinion, but if this is the best we can come up with in this country as the choice for the leader of the free world, we're doomed.

64 Nevergiveup  5/19/08 10:35:00 am reply quote

re: #54 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Lets ask Obama this, two guys move into your neighborhood. One is a former Marine who is fairly stable, has an okay job, kind of an asshole and a reasonable collection of firearms (say me for instance :)), the other is a strung out junkie, prone to screaming fits and making threats, multiple arrests and nutty as a fruitcake, who is armed with a crappy old .38.

OK, Barry, who is more dangerous to you?

Want to buy the house next to me?

65 Abu Boo Boo  5/19/08 10:35:01 am reply quote

As Netanyahu observed,

The Soviets had irrational goals but pursued them rationally. They did not want to die.

Islamists, in contrast, use irrational means to pursue their irrational goals. They love death.

66 joncelli  5/19/08 10:35:03 am reply quote

Jimmy Carter 2: Electric Obamaloo. (A short way of saying "no to clueless wannabees!)

67 itellu3times  5/19/08 10:35:06 am reply quote

re: #48 buzzsawmonkey

Obama/Kipling in 2008!

68 TN_Vol  5/19/08 10:35:17 am reply quote

If the threat is "tiny" and GWB is responsible isn't that a compliment, unintended or not?

69 Cartman  5/19/08 10:35:23 am reply quote

See no evil, speak plenty of evil, selectively hear some evil.

70 Silhouette  5/19/08 10:35:44 am reply quote

re: #55 zombie

Readers Digest version: The Soviets were sane. Iran is not.

I'll take sane evil over insane evil any day of the week. Throw in greed and now you have something to work with.

71 Athos  5/19/08 10:36:06 am reply quote

re: #57 Killian Bundy

Also not available for comment are the Lebanese Druze who used to reside in Southern Lebanon. I'm sure they are content to learn that a US presidential candidate does not think that Iran (or its proxies) are a real threat to freedom and liberty.

72 Honorary Yooper  5/19/08 10:36:10 am reply quote

re: #61 Nevergiveup

Anybody still thinking of sitting out this election, only has to listen to Obama's ideas on foreign policy, proliferation of weapons, and his warped view of recent history to know it is time to step up to the plate.

And not just his foreign policy. That's the tip of the iceberg. Barry's domestic policy is just as disasterous, if not moreso. And let's not get into Barry's totalitarian leanings, his Illinois Combine connections, and his connections to terrorists and terrorist supporters both foreign and domestic.

73 Kosh's Shadow  5/19/08 10:36:25 am reply quote

re: #14 zombie

It's a ridiculous comparison.

"The Soviet Union had enough nukes to completely obliterate life on Earth. Iran, by comparison, may only make enough nukes to kill a measly ten million people. The threat is tiny by comparison! What's ten million people more or less?"

Especially when Obama doesn't care about those; they're mostly Jews and the Muslims who get caught with them go to paradise.
And then, Obama will implment sharia in the US, so Iran won't attack. Unless we implement Sunni Sharia.

74 bosforus  5/19/08 10:36:43 am reply quote

re: #58 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I got to get me one of those race cards. They get you out of everything.

My ancestors were white folk here in the Americas since the 1600's. Down a different line I've got Swedish, German, and English. I couldn't hold a race card if I found one in the street. :(

75 freedomplow  5/19/08 10:36:52 am reply quote

McCain must state that Iran is not more powerful but more isolated.

76 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  5/19/08 10:36:55 am reply quote

re: #55 zombie

Now that I think about it, Obama has the threat assessment completely reversed.

The Soviet Union, for all its power and aggression, feared its own death. The were deterred by the principle of Mutually Assured Destruction.

The leaders of Iran are clinically insane and look forward to martyrdom and paradise.

So, my assessment is that the threat from Iran is actually much GREATER because they're not afraid to use their nukes, whereas the Soviet Union was.

Exactly. Barry is just showing his naivety again, assuming that all nations operate under the same belief system and that what works for one will work for another. Classical liberalism at its worst.

77 GreenDroll  5/19/08 10:36:59 am reply quote

It may well be that we will soon have a POTUS that probably couldn't find Iran on a map if it didn't say 'IRAN' on it in big letters, and who equates a military/terrorism threat to a political threat (Dems take political threats way more seriously than military/terrorism threats for some reason). I hope our government is still organized in such a matter that a weak/stupid president can be compensated for, and cooler/wiser heads will prevail when needed.
America will have the president it deserves, I just hope we don't deserve this guy.

78 Abu Boo Boo  5/19/08 10:37:04 am reply quote

Obama translated:

If Iran nukes Israel, it will eliminate a longstanding sore.

79 Ward Cleaver  5/19/08 10:37:08 am reply quote

Obama is a tool.

80 Killian Bundy  5/19/08 10:37:14 am reply quote

re: #53 cblesz

My standard line: Obama is full of shit...I cannot believe anyone buys this crap and nobody questions him. Oh, that's right...his views on Iran are off limits.

/he makes manure taste good

81 Ackomanyuki  5/19/08 10:37:23 am reply quote

re: #54 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The Marine. He is not a victim of society, is independent, self suffcient, and will sacrifice self to protect the weak.

Very dangerous to Obama and any other Autocratic Socialist.

82 cblesz  5/19/08 10:37:38 am reply quote

re: #61 Nevergiveup

Anybody still thinking of sitting out this election, only has to listen to Obama's ideas on foreign policy, proliferation of weapons, and his warped view of recent history to know it is time to step up to the plate.


I do think the more that he bloviates, the more that conservatives will start to crap themselves and begin to see that the destruction that this guy and the misssus will create will be overwhelming. it will be worse than they thought (4 years of a little pain) and come out and vote. (I HOPE)

83 jaunte  5/19/08 10:37:50 am reply quote

re: #62 Killian Bundy

Did you see this?

On May 14 Barack Obama held a private meeting at Macomb Community College with Hassan Qazwini. Qazwini is the leader of the Islamic Center of America in Dearborn. Debbie Schlussel describes Qazwini as Hezbollah's most important imam and agent in America.
[Link: www.frontpagemag.com...]
84 Charles  5/19/08 10:37:58 am reply quote

Obama understands that history is not the most popular subject in American schools, and he's cynically playing on the general lack of historical knowledge to make comparisons that are so unbalanced, they're beyond belief. He may not even really be clear about the history himself.

But people were applauding and cheering for these points.

85 Ward Cleaver  5/19/08 10:38:05 am reply quote

re: #78 Abu Boo Boo

Obama translated:

If Iran nukes Israel, it will eliminate a longstanding sore.

Cauterize it?

/carter-ize it?

86 opnion  5/19/08 10:38:13 am reply quote

The comparison with the Soviet Union is off of the mark.
The Soviets did not want to die. Communists are atheists, they have nowhere to go.
The little Iranian & the mad mullahs actually believe all of that Koranic crap.
They are willing to die as long as they take us with them.
Barry was schooled in Islam, he has to know this.

87 little boomer  5/19/08 10:38:17 am reply quote

To quote Barry "We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK,"
I've stopped feeding my children, dismantled the furnace and given up my van in order to placate Yemen and Myanmar.

88 Honorary Yooper  5/19/08 10:38:21 am reply quote

re: #83 jaunte

Yes, I reported on it last week in the spinoff links.

89 unrealizedviewpoint  5/19/08 10:38:26 am reply quote

re: #70 Silhouette

Readers Digest version: The Soviets were sane. Iran is not.

Obama may believe this understanding cannot be understood by the electorate.

90 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  5/19/08 10:38:41 am reply quote

Since he already knows he is going to appease these maniacs, even when they use the same language and threats as Hitler (referring to Jews as vermin, diseases and insects, call for Israel's death, even saying Israel is already dead), he has NO BACK UP PLAN IF HE IS WRONG.

and by then it will be too late.

You cannot say you are sorry when you were warned of the consequences of your actions, you cannot bring back the dead and you cannot un-nuke something.

Just as Chamberlain helped Hitler by never demanding his ouster as policy, Obama helps the Ayatollahs get their nuke. Allowing dangerous dictators to arm themselves when they publicly call for war, is suicidal if you are attacked, murderous if you let someone else get it in the neck for your intellectual and moral bankruptcy. Israel is to Poland as Obama is to Chamberlain as Lebanon is to Austria as Iraq is to Spain.

The pattern is the familiar threat of a fascist dictatorship hell bent on war and genocide. As always the left is in lock-step with the aggressors, both blind to the danger and blinding those around them as well. Then the dagger comes out and its too late. Hitler missed Moscow by 25 miles, in the nuclear age, that is as good as a hit.

91 chaz  5/19/08 10:38:52 am reply quote

To OB does "tiny" mean a threat of tiny magnitude, or a massive threat with a "tiny" probability of being executed?

Enquiring minds want to know.

92 Maine's Michael  5/19/08 10:39:08 am reply quote

Let's see.

7 years ago, a bunch of guys squatting in tents picking at a boilded goats head with theri fingers brought down the World Trade Center and cost us trillions in losses, when all consequent damages are factored in.

What could Iran, an actual state, do?

Obama doesn't get terrorism.

Terrorism is highly efficient in causing damage disproportionate to the resources at the disposal of the terrorists.

What a maroon.

Anyway, I'm not sure what all the fuss s about.

Islam in the 'Religion of Peace'. President Dances-With-Saudis told me so.

93 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  5/19/08 10:39:11 am reply quote

re: #84 Charles

Obama understands that history is not the most popular subject in American schools, and he's cynically playing on the general lack of historical knowledge to make comparisons that are so unbalanced, they're beyond belief. He may not even really be clear about the history himself.

But people were applauding and cheering for these points.

But he is so clean and well spoken.

94 zombie  5/19/08 10:39:19 am reply quote

re: #84 Charles

Obama understands that history is not the most popular subject in American schools, and he's cynically playing on the general lack of historical knowledge to make comparisons that are so unbalanced, they're beyond belief. He may not even really be clear about the history himself.

He was, after all, a leader of the "choomer squad" in high school. (Late '70s Hawaiian slang for pot-head.)

95 bosforus  5/19/08 10:39:49 am reply quote

re: #84 Charles

Which also gives us people who can't learn from the past.

96 alegrias  5/19/08 10:39:55 am reply quote

re: #75 freedomplow

McCain must state that Iran is not more powerful but more isolated.

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How is Iran more isolated when the EU countries that were supposed to "negotiate without preconditions" with Iran, and UN's El Baradei who was supposed to stop Iran's nuclear proliferation, AID & ABET Iran? All these people do business with Iran.

97 seekeroftruth  5/19/08 10:40:16 am reply quote

Goodness - what part of Ahmedinejad repeatedly saying he wants to wipe Israel and the US off the face of the earth doesn't he not understand? This man is so dangerous - shame on the Democrat party for foisting this idiot on the American people and the damn media for covering up for him.

98 jcm  5/19/08 10:40:18 am reply quote

re: #50 alegrias

Ahmedinejad is no Mikhail Gorbachov, who partnered for disarmament with Ronald Reagan.

There is no glasnost or perestroika in Iran.

JJimmy Carter is the fool who created mullacracies with nukes.

I wouldn't say Gorbachov "partnered" with RWR. He was trying desperately hold onto the Soviet Union. Reagan played him into a corner.

At Reykjavik Gorbachov was ready to deal away a huge chunk of the Soviet Nuclear arsenal for terminating SDI. Reagan walked out.

Reagan and John Paul II pulled Poland out of the Soviet sphere. Reagan and the CIA played a lot of games with the Soviets that cost them billions, the natural gas pumps and the shuttle among them. Reagan challenged Soviet clients around the world, causing the Soviets to invest more money than they could afford propping up the clients. The Reagan defense build up further stress the Soviet economy. Finally Reagan cut off our support for the Russian economy, remember Carter's grain shipments? Russian had to buy food with hard currency, no more of Carter's bribes for peace.

Gorbachov got his ass handed to him by Reagan.

99 EE  5/19/08 10:40:43 am reply quote

It's Barack Neville-Chamberlain Obama!

"WE are the ones we have been waiting for! WE are the Second Coming of the Great Prophet Neville Chamberlain, and WE have come in order to bring Peace In Our Time! "

"WE DENY that there is any threat; and EVEN IF there were one it could be overcome through the miracle of appeasement, whose importance the hated Bush-McCain axis of non-appeasement has tried to trivialize."

"CHANGE to Appeasement, the CHANGE you can believe in!"

100 Athos  5/19/08 10:40:52 am reply quote

re: #84 Charles

He may not even really be clear about the history himself.

Given the number of historical misstatements that Obama has uttered in the last several months, its clear that he does not know the facts and lessons of history.

101 freedomplow  5/19/08 10:41:10 am reply quote

McCain must state that Iran is not more powerful but more isolated.
And giving Ahmadinejad legitimacy will strengthen him in the world and his unpopularity at home.

102 jaunte  5/19/08 10:41:14 am reply quote

re: #88 Honorary Yooper

Good, keep talking about it!

103 unrealizedviewpoint  5/19/08 10:42:11 am reply quote

re: #86 opnion

The comparison with the Soviet Union is off of the mark.
The Soviets did not want to die. Communists are atheists, they have nowhere to go.
The little Iranian & the mad mullahs actually believe all of that Koranic crap.
They are willing to die as long as they take us with them.
Barry was schooled in Islam, he has to know this.

His Koranic Schooling was at a very early age. I went to Catholic School as a kid and I remember nothing except getting my knuckles slammed with a ruler. kidding.

104 Maximu§  5/19/08 10:42:13 am reply quote

Germany and Japan were considered "tiny" in 1936 and look what they did....Obama needs to pick up a history book.

105 Kosh's Shadow  5/19/08 10:42:15 am reply quote

re: #65 Abu Boo Boo

As Netanyahu observed,

The Soviets had irrational goals but pursued them rationally. They did not want to die.

Islamists, in contrast, use irrational means to pursue their irrational goals. They love death.

Right. G-dless communists want to create paradise on Earth. (They actually create hell, but that's a different problem)
If they get nuked, it is much harder to make a paradise.
Amadmanonjihad is looking for paradise in the next world. If his country gets nuked, it is their ticket to paradise.

MAD worked against the Soviets; it won't work where the "penalty", death, is desired, as long as they kill Jews first.

106 zombie  5/19/08 10:42:19 am reply quote

Ah, excuse me -- it was the "choom gang," not the "choomer squad":

Senior portraits show smiling graduates alongside added personal touches, such as snapshots of friends or pets, poetry, slogans and fond farewells.

"Barry" Obama, as he was then known, wears a 1970s-style wide-collared shirt and sports jacket, his hair in a neatly trimmed afro that covers the tops of his ears.

He added a photo of himself playing basketball, and a shot entitled "Still Life" that includes numerous items. Among them are a trophy, telephone, turntable and beer bottle.

A package of "Zig-Zag" rolling papers and a matchbook are prominently displayed in front, and in a brief caption he thanked the "Choom Gang" and others "for all the good times."

Obama wrote candidly in his autobiography about drug and alcohol use, and mentioned that a close friend had been arrested for drug possession during his high school years.

Getting high was "something that could push questions of who I was out of my mind."

107 experiencedtraveller  5/19/08 10:42:25 am reply quote

re: #84 Charles<