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Mon, May 19, 2008 at 1:56:50 pm PDT

A journey of a thousand miles begins with an open thread...

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1 Honorary Yooper  Mon, May 19, 2008 1:58:01pm

I think this is the first open thread of the day, IIRC?

2 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 1:58:19pm

twwwiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllllll

3 Creeping Eruption  Mon, May 19, 2008 1:58:29pm

re: #1 Honorary Yooper

I think this is the first open thread of the day, IIRC?

"First?"

4 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 1:58:36pm

re: #1 Honorary Yooper

oooooooooooooooohhhhhhhh

5 joncelli  Mon, May 19, 2008 1:58:54pm

Ah, wide open threadiness. Beats working.

6 Creeping Eruption  Mon, May 19, 2008 1:59:12pm

re: #5 joncelli

Ah, wide open threadiness. Beats working.

Tell me about it.

7 alegrias  Mon, May 19, 2008 1:59:38pm

Thank you Charles for the change of scenery. That previous thread was hellish and unbecoming even by people who will stoop at nothing.

8 bosforus  Mon, May 19, 2008 1:59:49pm

re: #5 joncelli

Ah, wide open threadiness. Beats working.

Few things don't.

9 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 19, 2008 1:59:59pm

Good morning, a lovely Tuesday and the Finance man is coming down for a visit, so we are skiving off and taking him out for a deer hunt. I mean, what better way to enjoy a work day.

10 alegrias  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:00:29pm

re: #7 alegrias

Thank you Charles for the change of scenery. That previous thread was hellish and unbecoming even by people who will stoop at nothing.

* * *
(I meant the "art" work of feverish minds)

11 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:00:48pm

re: #9 A Kiwi Infidel

Good morning, a lovely Tuesday and the Finance man is coming down for a visit, so we are skiving off and taking him out for a deer hunt. I mean, what better way to enjoy a work day.

How does one "skiv off"?

12 Honorary Yooper  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:01:16pm

re: #5 joncelli

Ah, wide open threadiness. Beats working.

That it does. :-)

13 galloping granny  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:01:23pm

Obama's speech about Michelle is on Fox right now.

14 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:02:02pm

re: #11 MandyManners


Pronounced "sky-ve" and means to sneak off without telling the telephonist.

15 Honorary Yooper  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:02:08pm

re: #13 galloping granny

Obama's speech about Michelle is on Fox right now.

Will they have some brie for Obama to go with his whine?

16 alegrias  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:02:29pm

Three cheers for the American family farm--my hat is off to these hard-working people who feed half the world with efficiency & integrity. (Spent a working weekend doing manual labor with a shovel and have only good things to say to those who feed us fatty-Americans.)

17 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:03:44pm

I have been reading some stuff which borders on "conspiracy theory" but I would be interested to know if you peoples have coloured disks on your letter boxes?

18 looking closely  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:03:51pm

re: #16 alegrias

Three cheers for the American family farm--my hat is off to these hard-working people who feed half the world with efficiency & integrity. (Spent a working weekend doing manual labor with a shovel and have only good things to say to those who feed us fatty-Americans.)

Just don't drive an SUV or have your thermostat set to 72, because the rest of the world that's being fed might not like it.

19 Chingachgook  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:03:56pm

Is Obama's 57 state comment news to only me? I'm not seeing much on this?!

20 Ojoe  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:04:20pm
21 Diamond Bullet  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:04:29pm

Although I have serious problems with the guy, I have to profess admiration for the way McCain has been dribbling Obama up and down the court the last couple of days. Obama talks a big game about bipartisanship, but if you poke him he starts spitting acid just like every other loony leftist politician. McCain spent years in a freaking Vietnamese torture camp, I don't think Obama exactly frightens him. It's going to be fun watching McCain abuse him while Obama clings to a giant waffle and begs everyone to switch the subject back to generalized "change".

Honest to god, the Democrats make fun of McCain's age and "senility" - but if Obama can't handle one ornery Vietnam war vet, how is he going to handle Iran?

22 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:04:37pm

re: #15 Honorary Yooper

Will they have some brie for Obama to go with his whine?


Nope, some stinky old english stilton.

23 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:04:42pm

re: #14 A Kiwi Infidel

Pronounced "sky-ve" and means to sneak off without telling the telephonist.

Thank you.

Now, what's a telephonist?

24 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:05:28pm

re: #19 Chingachgook

Is Obama's 57 state comment news to only me? I'm not seeing much on this?!

We kicked it around last week.

25 galloping granny  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:06:02pm

Obama's spokeman on Fox just called Libya's government "an administration" - then quickly changed it to "regime."

26 Ojoe  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:06:24pm

re: #19 Chingachgook

The organization of islamic states has 57 states.

27 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:06:26pm

re: #24 MandyManners

We kicked it around last week.

So we won't have Dick Nixon Obama's 57 states to kick around any more?

28 joncelli  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:06:51pm

re: #23 MandyManners

If I'm reading this correctly, I think Kiwi is saying she blew off the rest of the day and didn't bother to tell the receptionist. Which sounds great, since it's nice and cool and breezy today here.

29 eschew_obfuscation  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:07:21pm

re: #17 A Kiwi Infidel

I have been reading some stuff which borders on "conspiracy theory" but I would be interested to know if you peoples have coloured disks on your letter boxes?


I think you're referring to what we call 'mail boxes' (where postal mail is delivered in suburbia). There are also Post Office Boxes.....where postal mail is delivered to patrons at the post office.

As far as I know, none have colored disks on them.....

30 Honorary Yooper  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:07:32pm

re: #17 A Kiwi Infidel

I have been reading some stuff which borders on "conspiracy theory" but I would be interested to know if you peoples have coloured disks on your letter boxes?

Colored disks on what letter boxes? Mailboxes? If so, no. Mine's on the house.

31 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:07:36pm

re: #17 A Kiwi Infidel

No? Or, at least, I haven't noticed?

32 HBob  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:07:45pm

31 - That's Numberwang!

33 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:07:52pm

re: #23 MandyManners


Since we dont employ one, I have no idea.

34 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:07:57pm

re: #21 Diamond Bullet

Although I have serious problems with the guy, I have to profess admiration for the way McCain has been dribbling Obama up and down the court the last couple of days. Obama talks a big game about bipartisanship, but if you poke him he starts spitting acid just like every other loony leftist politician. McCain spent years in a freaking Vietnamese torture camp, I don't think Obama exactly frightens him. It's going to be fun watching McCain abuse him while Obama clings to a giant waffle and begs everyone to switch the subject back to generalized "change".

Honest to god, the Democrats make fun of McCain's age and "senility" - but if Obama can't handle one ornery Vietnam war vet, how is he going to handle Iran?

35 Killian Bundy  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:08:05pm

Extra Extra!

/read all about it (five jaw dropping links)

36 joncelli  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:08:21pm

re: #28 joncelli

"Here" being Pennsylvania, of course, so it doesn't really follow from Kiwi's situation, which is, you know, in NZ. (I REALLY need a decent night's sleep.)

37 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:08:24pm

re: #27 Occasional Reader

So we won't have Dick Nixon Obama's 57 states to kick around any more?

Oh, we'll never give it up!

38 offendi  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:08:38pm

Lunch With a Liberal - True Story

College friend. Obama supporter.

Friend: " You know, Obama reminds me of John F. Kennedy".
Me: " I agree. "
Friend: " Oh, so you are voting for Obama? "
Me: " No. "
Friend: " Why not?"
Me: " Well, Kennedy's inexperience got us into the Bay of Pigs. He also brought the country closest in it's history to a nuclear war with the Soviet Union, also based on his inexperience and Kruschev's sense he could be taken advantage of. "
Friend: " Well, Obama will have good advisors. "
Me: "Well, so did Kennedy. "

After that we spoke about family and the weather.

39 HBob  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:08:43pm

re: #26 Ojoe

The organization of islamic states has 57 states.

Plus two more!

40 Creeping Eruption  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:08:45pm

re: #17 A Kiwi Infidel

I have been reading some stuff which borders on "conspiracy theory" but I would be interested to know if you peoples have coloured disks on your letter boxes?

/No - just chalk lines and x's occasionally show up unexpectedly.

41 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:09:09pm

re: #28 joncelli

If I'm reading this correctly, I think Kiwi is saying she blew off the rest of the day and didn't bother to tell the receptionist. Which sounds great, since it's nice and cool and breezy today here.

Thank you! That makes sense. It's been a while since I read Ngaio Marsh.

42 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:09:11pm
43 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:09:16pm

re: #30 Honorary Yooper


Mailbox or disk?

44 Honorary Yooper  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:09:58pm

re: #43 A Kiwi Infidel

Mailbox or disk?

Mailbox. There's no colored disks on it.

45 Ward Cleaver  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:09:59pm

re: #2 MandyManners

twwwiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllllll

Wow, that was awesome.

46 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:10:02pm

re: #35 Killian Bundy

I saw no links, just a great picture of a cat.

47 galloping granny  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:10:18pm

re: #17 A Kiwi Infidel

I have been reading some stuff which borders on "conspiracy theory" but I would be interested to know if you peoples have coloured disks on your letter boxes?

Nope. Some have small locks and single boxes have little flags you pop up if you want the mail man to stick up, but the post box design is pretty standard - dictated by the Post Office.

48 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:10:24pm

re: #38 offendi

Lunch With a Liberal - True Story

College friend. Obama supporter.

Friend: " You know, Obama reminds me of John F. Kennedy".
Me: " I agree. "
Friend: " Oh, so you are voting for Obama? "
Me: " No. "
Friend: " Why not?"
Me: " Well, Kennedy's inexperience got us into the Bay of Pigs. He also brought the country closest in it's history to a nuclear war with the Soviet Union, also based on his inexperience and Kruschev's sense he could be taken advantage of. "
Friend: " Well, Obama will have good advisors. "
Me: "Well, so did Kennedy. "

After that we spoke about family and the weather.

I congratulate you for not deploying your salad fork.

49 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:10:54pm

re: #40 Creeping Eruption

/No - just chalk lines and x's occasionally show up unexpectedly.

And, those bar codes on the back of highway signs.

50 joncelli  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:11:06pm

re: #43 A Kiwi Infidel

Disk...sometimes people who have mailboxes close to the road put reflectors on the boxes so people don't accidentally clean the boxes out at night -- could that be what you mean?

51 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:11:22pm

re: #45 Ward Cleaver

Wow, that was awesome.

Tanks. It makes me dizzy.

52 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:11:25pm

re: #17 A Kiwi Infidel

I have been reading some stuff which borders on "conspiracy theory" but I would be interested to know if you peoples have coloured disks on your letter boxes?

Well, sure, I installed them there as signals to let the UN troops know which of my neighbors own firearms for them to confiscate.

So?

53 Honorary Yooper  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:11:46pm

re: #47 galloping granny

Nope. Some have small locks and single boxes have little flags you pop up if you want the mail man to stick up, but the post box design is pretty standard - dictated by the Post Office.

Only the ones on the street have those flags though. Since mine is on the house, I have no flag for it.

Then there are mailslots that some people have in their doors.

54 alegrias  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:11:47pm

re: #18 looking closely

Just don't drive an SUV or have your thermostat set to 72, because the rest of the world that's being fed might not like it.

* * *
Having survived the Carter years, and being a conservative, I actually don't like to overheat or over air condition my environment! This year I didn't even turn on the heat, though we've had cold days in the DC Metro area. My wool sweater collection is awesome!

And I prefer to walk when I can.

55 galloping granny  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:11:50pm

re: #50 joncelli

Disk...sometimes people who have mailboxes close to the road put reflectors on the boxes so people don't accidentally clean the boxes out at night -- could that be what you mean?

I think by cleaning them out what you mean is drive into them - as the town plow did to ours this winter.

56 WayDownSouthInBama  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:12:06pm

I'm going to ignore for a minute that Barimmy Obarter,in the space of only a few hours, called Iran "tiny" and didn't pose a "serious threat". :

"Iran, Cuba, Venezuela - these countries are tiny compared to the Soviet Union. They don't pose a serious threat to us the way the Soviet Union posed a threat to us.

and then turned around and called Iran a "grave threat":

"Let me be absolutely clear: Iran is a grave threat."

I also found something else,in the same article,that I found hypocritical to the max:

If McCain is elected, Obama said, "We'll keep talking tough in Washington, while countries like Iran ignore our tough talk."

Wait a @#$% minute there Barimmy,isn't TALKING TOUGH the very policy you have been promoting as your foreign policy all along? Haven't those of us who remain sane,and remember the Jimmy Carter Appeasement Tour,been saying that tough talk don't mean $#!t to a terrorist? Now for the money question:

Why do you support TOUGH TALK as your own foreign policy and then condemn others for the same policy? If it will be a failure for McCain,how will doing the same thing be a success for you?

[Link: apnews.myway.com...]

57 David IV of Georgia  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:12:09pm

re: #22 A Kiwi Infidel

Nope, some stinky old english stilton.

Stilton is far too good for him.

Try really stale, really cheap generic macaroni and cheese. The kind were the cheese reminds one of orange-yellow water....

58 loppyd  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:12:44pm

re: #38 offendi

Lunch With a Liberal - True Story

College friend. Obama supporter.

Friend: " You know, Obama reminds me of John F. Kennedy".
Me: " I agree. "
Friend: " Oh, so you are voting for Obama? "
Me: " No. "
Friend: " Why not?"
Me: " Well, Kennedy's inexperience got us into the Bay of Pigs. He also brought the country closest in it's history to a nuclear war with the Soviet Union, also based on his inexperience and Kruschev's sense he could be taken advantage of. "
Friend: " Well, Obama will have good advisors. "
Me: "Well, so did Kennedy. "

After that we spoke about family and the weather.

Will be forced into some mandatory family fun with the BF's family this weekend and I will be doing a lot of tongue biting.

The good news is the BF is on the right team....much to his moonbat father's chagrin.

BWAAAHAHAHAHA.

59 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:12:47pm

re: #50 joncelli

Disk...sometimes people who have mailboxes close to the road put reflectors on the boxes so people don't accidentally clean the boxes out at night -- could that be what you mean?

Deep in the heart of Appalachia, those reflective disks just help Bubba and his buddies aim better with either their shotguns or their baseball bats.

60 alegrias  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:12:48pm

re: #25 galloping granny

Obama's spokeman on Fox just called Libya's government "an administration" - then quickly changed it to "regime."

* * *
Totalitarians R us! What's not to talk about! Without preconditions.

61 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:12:52pm

re: #52 Occasional Reader


Thanks, all, for prompt replies, I will consign this referred material to the shredder, as conspiracy theory.

62 joncelli  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:13:10pm

re: #55 galloping granny

Yes, I mean slam into them. Neighbors lost a box that way.

63 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:13:43pm

I've been wondering something. When we were up in Sonoma for a wedding, it seemed to me that their "watch out for deer lepping merrily across the freeway" signs portrayed a rather rotund fellow, while Alameda, San Mateo and Santa Clara Counties used a buck with a nice, tucked little belly.

Has anyone else noted this variation anywhere else?

64 Honorary Yooper  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:14:08pm

re: #54 alegrias

Having survived the Carter years, and being a conservative, I actually don't like to overheat or over air condition my environment! This year I didn't even turn on the heat, though we've had cold days in the DC Metro area. My wool sweater collection is awesome!

And I prefer to walk when I can.

Lucky you then. It's far too cold in Chicago to avoid not turning on the heat. Well, you can leave it off, but your pipes'll freeze. I just keep it down near 62.

I just hope for a cooler summer where I can leave the AC off most of the time.

65 alegrias  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:14:12pm

re: #25 galloping granny

Obama's spokeman on Fox just called Libya's government "an administration" - then quickly changed it to "regime."

* * *
Kleptocracy would be more accurate.

66 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:14:25pm

re: #61 A Kiwi Infidel

Thanks, all, for prompt replies, I will consign this referred material to the shredder, as conspiracy theory.

Always happy to help. By the way... naturally, I've reported your post to UN Central Command. Black helicopters are being dispatched. Please stay by your computer.

67 galloping granny  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:14:37pm

re: #62 joncelli

Yes, I mean slam into them. Neighbors lost a box that way.

We were rather surprised to see ours ice skating down the road. We now have one big enough to put a small child into that is coal black and firmly attached to a 6x6 sunk in cement. I'll get one of those reflector disks on a whip before the plow comes around again.

68 Ojoe  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:14:42pm

re: #63 Dianna

Sometimes people put a red round reflector on the deer's nose. (Rudolph).

69 eschew_obfuscation  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:14:56pm

re: #61 A Kiwi Infidel

Thanks, all, for prompt replies, I will consign this referred material to the shredder, as conspiracy theory.


What was the conspiracy supposed to be?

70 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:14:59pm
71 nikis-knight  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:15:07pm

re: #54 alegrias

* * *
Having survived the Carter years, and being a conservative, I actually don't like to overheat or over air condition my environment! This year I didn't even turn on the heat, though we've had cold days in the DC Metro area. My wool sweater collection is awesome!

And I prefer to walk when I can.

well, doing things because they make sense for you is a far cry different from doing things because Obama wants to impress his friends in Davos with the lovely progressive (ie, coercive) laws he's signed.

72 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:15:33pm

re: #63 Dianna

When we were up in Sonoma for a wedding, it seemed to me that their "watch out for deer lepping merrily across the freeway" signs portrayed a rather rotund fellow, while Alameda, San Mateo and Santa Clara Counties used a buck with a nice, tucked little belly.

Either style of sign is okay with me, as long as they have the obligatory bullet holes in them.

73 alegrias  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:15:40pm

re: #38 offendi

Lunch With a Liberal - True Story

College friend. Obama supporter.

Friend: " You know, Obama reminds me of John F. Kennedy".
Me: " I agree. "
Friend: " Oh, so you are voting for Obama? "
Me: " No. "
Friend: " Why not?"
Me: " Well, Kennedy's inexperience got us into the Bay of Pigs. He also brought the country closest in it's history to a nuclear war with the Soviet Union, also based on his inexperience and Kruschev's sense he could be taken advantage of. "
Friend: " Well, Obama will have good advisors. "
Me: "Well, so did Kennedy. "

After that we spoke about family and the weather.


* * *

And Kennedy sent military advisors to VIETNAM.

74 Ojoe  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:15:50pm

re: #70 buzzsawmonkey

extra bad joke

75 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:16:08pm
76 galloping granny  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:16:24pm

re: #64 Honorary Yooper

Lucky you then. It's far too cold in Chicago to avoid not turning on the heat. Well, you can leave it off, but your pipes'll freeze. I just keep it down near 62.

I just hope for a cooler summer where I can leave the AC off most of the time.

I wouldn't give AC house room for a couple of reasons, not least of which is allergies. My dad keeps his car so air conditioned it is like riding in a nitrogen freezer. Then you get out of the car and 80 feels like 280. No thanks!

77 Pshawalaw  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:16:30pm

re: #21 Diamond Bullet

Obama also can't handle Fox News, surely he can't handle Ahmydinnerjacket if he can't take a few questions from Chris Wallace.

78 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:16:59pm

re: #68 Ojoe

I've seen that, and also little target circles just behind the shoulder.

79 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:17:03pm

re: #57 David IV of Georgia

Stilton is far too good for him.

Try really stale, really cheap generic macaroni and cheese. The kind were the cheese reminds one of orange-yellow water....

As young fellas we would practice our sniper skills on wild goats. The old billy goats really stank, like I mean a pong that could stop a bull elephant at 30 paces. I cannot eat goats cheese as there is alway a hint of this smell, even as you bring the cheese up to the mouth, you catch a hint of the smell, and then nearly throw up.........

80 DownRightMeanAmerican  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:17:09pm

Where did door to door solicitors get the idea that ringing my door bell rapidly 5 times and then immediately giving 12 or so forceful knocks on my hollow core thin skinned wood front door, would make me want to do anything else but kick the solicitor right between the legs rapidly 5 times then immediately give a dozen or so forceful knocks on their forehead.

Then I would loudly proclaim, “the lights are on, but nobody is home”, a**hole, and no I don’t want any.

Rant off.

81 loppyd  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:17:24pm

I hated wearing sweaters and having the heat on 68 when I was a kid and I sure as you-now-what am not going through that again just because Barry says so.

82 cygnus  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:17:45pm

re: #1 Honorary Yooper

I think this is the first open thread of the day, IIRC?

Hey! He said 'First'! :P

83 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:18:01pm

re: #63 Dianna

I've been wondering something. When we were up in Sonoma for a wedding, it seemed to me that their "watch out for deer lepping merrily across the freeway" signs portrayed a rather rotund fellow, while Alameda, San Mateo and Santa Clara Counties used a buck with a nice, tucked little belly.

Has anyone else noted this variation anywhere else?

Beats me. All I can tell you is that I was in my earl 30s before I figured out that the deer didn't know to cross where the sign was instead of the highway department knowing where the deer trails cross the road.

84 offendi  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:18:02pm

re: #48 MandyManners

I congratulate you for not deploying your salad fork.

Since it was sushi it would have been a chopstick.

85 Killian Bundy  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:18:20pm

re: #46 Dianna

I saw no links, just a great picture of a cat.

My bad.

/Obama hates cats

86 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:18:22pm

re: #72 Occasional Reader

Either style of sign is okay with me, as long as they have the obligatory bullet holes in them.

We must be kin.

87 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:18:49pm

re: #72 Occasional Reader

Last month, driving up 280, I saw a "watch out for deer lepping merrily" sign flattened, with a deer staring down at it.

88 offendi  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:19:02pm

re: #73 alegrias

Yes, responsible for the Vietnam War too!

89 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:19:11pm

re: #84 offendi

Since it was sushi it would have been a chopstick.

Bigger hole. Splinters, too.

90 bosforus  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:19:19pm

So, about that comment by Huckabee at the NRA on Friday. Anyone else grateful that the Obama camp spent so much time on the 'appeasement' issue that they didn't have the effort to stir up anything against Huckabee. I don't think anyone's talked about it since Friday.

91 loppyd  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:19:33pm

Time to head out and check out Inifdelia's handiwork at the local Whole Foods.

Have a good night, LN!

92 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:19:55pm

re: #87 Dianna

Last month, driving up 280, I saw a "watch out for deer lepping merrily" sign flattened, with a deer staring down at it.

Did it actually say "deer leeping merrily"? Wow. I gotta' get out to California some time.

93 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:19:56pm

re: #72 Occasional Reader

Either style of sign is okay with me, as long as they have the obligatory bullet holes in them.

No, you don't want to warn the deer that someone's hunting for them.

The moose signs near us have the moose standing there and looking at the car, like the car can be stopped by its gaze.

94 galloping granny  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:20:14pm

re: #81 loppyd

I hated wearing sweaters and having the heat on 68 when I was a kid and I sure as you-now-what am not going through that again just because Barry says so.

I don't mind keeping the thermostat on about 64. If we turn it much higher than that the bedrooms are so hot upstairs that it is nearly unbearable and we freeze out in the schoolroom anyway. So we keep the thermostat lowish and fill in with a space heater that costs very little to run. Nice compromise, since we have oil heat.

95 loppyd  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:20:33pm

re: #90 bosforus

So, about that comment by Huckabee at the NRA on Friday. Anyone else grateful that the Obama camp spent so much time on the 'appeasement' issue that they didn't have the effort to stir up anything against Huckabee. I don't think anyone's talked about it since Friday.

Tim Russert played it for Huckabee while he was on Meet the Press and Huckabee apologized.

Now I'm really gone.

Later, taters!

96 vagabond trader  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:20:46pm

Oh, this is rich. The Obama began wearing a flag pin again at the request of some veterans. LMAO!

97 Creeping Eruption  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:20:57pm

re: #80 DownRightMeanAmerican

Where did door to door solicitors get the idea that ringing my door bell rapidly 5 times and then immediately giving 12 or so forceful knocks on my hollow core thin skinned wood front door, would make me want to do anything else but kick the solicitor right between the legs rapidly 5 times then immediately give a dozen or so forceful knocks on their forehead.

Then I would loudly proclaim, “the lights are on, but nobody is home”, a**hole, and no I don’t want any.

Rant off.

Just open the door slowly and sweetly ask if he/she has ever seen Silence of the Lambs, then promptly invite them in for a glass of Chianti. You will probably finish your sentence to a rapidly retreating back.

98 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:21:06pm

Was it 40 Years Ago, Today?

In a previous thread, someone was talking about social programs that actually reduced freedom. Interesting quote "In 1965, Democrats held more than two-thirds of both chambers of Congress." I guess the more things change the more they stay the same.

99 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:21:24pm

re: #66 Occasional Reader

Always happy to help. By the way... naturally, I've reported your post to UN Central Command. Black helicopters are being dispatched. Please stay by your computer.


Well that would be nice. Our airforce certainly needs some new hardware. If you could get some assigned to NZ on a permanent basis, I think would be happier.

100 toomanysnax[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:21:25pm
101 loppyd  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:22:28pm

re: #94 galloping granny

I don't mind keeping the thermostat on about 64. If we turn it much higher than that the bedrooms are so hot upstairs that it is nearly unbearable and we freeze out in the schoolroom anyway. So we keep the thermostat lowish and fill in with a space heater that costs very little to run. Nice compromise, since we have oil heat.

I grew up in a house built in the late 1700's. It was freezing no matter where you went! LOL

Gone, baby gone.

BYE

102 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:22:39pm

re: #80 DownRightMeanAmerican

Where did door to door solicitors get the idea that ringing my door bell rapidly 5 times and then immediately giving 12 or so forceful knocks on my hollow core thin skinned wood front door, would make me want to do anything else but kick the solicitor right between the legs rapidly 5 times then immediately give a dozen or so forceful knocks on their forehead.

Then I would loudly proclaim, “the lights are on, but nobody is home”, a**hole, and no I don’t want any.

Rant off.

Well, if a salesman walked up our driveway, through the locked gate with the "Beware of the dog" sign and rang the bell, I think the barking would be enough to convince him to leave.
If he didn't, the sight of two dogs looking at him through the window might.

103 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:22:44pm

re: #83 MandyManners

The deer do seem to be in the habit of ignoring the signs, yes.

Not as badly, though, as the eagle I nearly hit in the Klamath River country. It came crashing down on the road in front of me, and I barely stopped in time.

104 Ackomanyuki  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:22:48pm

re: #17 A Kiwi Infidel

I have been reading some stuff which borders on "conspiracy theory" but I would be interested to know if you peoples have coloured disks on your letter boxes?

No, but twenty years ago I delivered communications equipment and mainframes to locations in abandoned mines in the Appalachian Mountains where the only directions I had after meeting a contact at a loading dock was a series of grossly rounded off distances and a list of color coded disks that marked each turn on the path to my destination.

105 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:23:00pm

re: #86 MandyManners

We must be kin.

That said, while I favor bullet holes in the signs, I could never bring myself to shoot a deer.

106 cygnus  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:23:05pm

re: #85 Killian Bundy

My bad.

/Obama hates cats

Now I know that I'll never vote for him. He's a liberal appeaser who hates cats. Loser.

107 vagabond trader  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:23:05pm

re: #100 toomanysnax

A bit on the self absorbed side isn't he?

108 The Other Les  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:23:05pm

This thought just occurred to me:

McCain: I've been through shit you people wouldn't believe.

Obama: Our peace loving socialist brothers would never...blah...blah...blah...

McCain: Told you so.

109 offendi  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:23:22pm

re: #58 loppyd

Why bite your tongue? A drink or two can certainly get things going.

BTW, my friend from college was an anarchist when we were going to school and loved the radical professors' courses the most. Logical progression to Obama supporter considering Ayers?

110 Empire1  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:23:36pm

I've got a question (or several) for those of you who have, or at least have seen. e-book readers. They're still awfully pricey for what you get, but I really like the idea of 200 books on an SD chip ... that would free up a lot of space here, and save quite a bit in hardback prices, even at discount. I'm currently leaning toward the HanLin eReader, since it handles the most formats, but I've not made a solid decision.

Do the available titles make it worth getting one at all? (I mostly read SF/Fantasy for fiction, and I think I'd do better to keep my references in paper editions.)

Are they as easy to use as the ads and folks at "Daily Pundit" claim?

Does e-paper really look like paper? I have a hard time reading back-lit material for really long things, but I can read real paper all day, so this is important.

More later, probably, as I get input here!

-- Ann

111 OldLineTexan  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:23:41pm

re: #88 offendi

Yes, responsible for the Vietnam War too!

Kennedy? Surely you jest.

112 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:23:55pm

re: #100 toomanysnax

"Half-breed"? WTF?

113 bosforus  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:24:03pm

re: #95 loppyd

Tim Russert played it for Huckabee while he was on Meet the Press and Huckabee apologized.

Now I'm really gone.

Later, taters!

Thanks for the update. But it still seems like it didn't pick up much traction, which is fine by me, since crying about Bush all weekend only brought more attention to Obama's ludicrous foreign policy stance. It was a win-win weekend, I suppose.

114 OldLineTexan  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:24:12pm

re: #105 Occasional Reader

That said, while I favor bullet holes in the signs, I could never bring myself to shoot a deer.

They are entirely too hard to eat while alive. That is what I have found.

115 cygnus  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:24:21pm

re: #87 Dianna

Last month, driving up 280, I saw a "watch out for deer lepping merrily" sign flattened, with a deer staring down at it.

That's a photo-worthy moment. Too bad you didn't have a camera.

116 galloping granny[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:24:23pm
117 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:24:25pm

re: #100 toomanysnax

I'm about half-way through O'Bama's first book. I'm past the part where he's tired of getting high and past the part where he goes to visit his favorite Communist "Frank" and at the part where he is learning about the Nation of Islam. This guy is creepier than any of the press make out. Have any of you lizards read this thing? Does it have a happy ending? Is there a point to all the words other than a half-breed trying to decide which racial team to play on? Wierd!

The happy ending will be when he loses the election by a landslide and retires to Iran, where his wife can be proud of wearing a bag.

118 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:24:31pm

re: #103 Dianna

The deer do seem to be in the habit of ignoring the signs, yes.

Not as badly, though, as the eagle I nearly hit in the Klamath River country. It came crashing down on the road in front of me, and I barely stopped in time.

Stupid animals encroaching on our civilization.

119 Killian Bundy  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:24:39pm

re: #106 cygnus

Now I know that I'll never vote for him. He's a liberal appeaser who hates cats. Loser.

And he doesn't have a dog.

/think about that

120 gop_patriot  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:24:43pm

re: #80 DownRightMeanAmerican

That's a hell of a visual. ROFLOL!

121 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:24:49pm

re: #87 Dianna

I saw a "watch out for deer lepping merrily" sign

Sounds like a LOLDEER sign.

I CAN HAZ LEPPING MERRILY?!

122 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:25:00pm

re: #92 MandyManners

No, that's my characterization. The deer silhouette is usually portrayed as if it is leaping, and (to my eye) the angle of the antlered head looks awfully cheerful to me. So I don't call it a "deer crossing" sign, but a deer lepping merrily sign.

123 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:25:11pm

re: #105 Occasional Reader

That said, while I favor bullet holes in the signs, I could never bring myself to shoot a deer.

I don't know if I could. Well, if that was my source of protein, I could.

124 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:25:26pm

Bruce Ramsey at the Seattle Times is still digging.

May 17, 2008 4:00 PM
"Appeasement," again
Posted by Bruce Ramsey
My previous post having inflamed a few hundred people, I'll try another tack. Forget the Munich conference. My point is really not about that anyway. It is about "appeasement" as a political label to prevent a conversation in the present.

I grew up facing the prospect of nuclear death from the Russians, and also the specter of world Communism. Well, we talked to the Russians. It didn't solve everything, but it did lead to a nuclear test ban, and a red telephone, and a few useful things. And finally, Communism went away.

I lived through the time when China was "Red China," and we didn't talk to it. Well, Richard Nixon opened the door. It was a good thing. It didn't settle everything with China, but it lowered tensions. The Chinese government, dictatorial as it was, was not totally unreasonable--and over the years it has become somewhat more reasonable. We have businesses there, and academics there, and tourists there, and thousands of Chinese students here. Talking to China, and trading with it, was a good idea.

It is said we can't talk to terrorists. Get beyond the "terrorist" label, which is another device for barring communication. You have to ask: do these people represent the political aspirations of a large group? if they do, you'd better talk to them, because they're not going away. Find out what they want. You don't have to knuckle under. But talk. Hear them out. Have them hear you out.

There is a whole Internet jeering section that considers this a weakling's argument. Gotta be tough. Don't give an inch. They also seem to think the United States is surrounded, beleaguered, encircled, vulnerable and insecure. I see a nation that is a dominant superpower that might profit greatly if it listened more.

Forget what I said!

Okay, Brucey baby, "But talk. Hear them out. Have them hear you out." Just what do we talk about, death by bomb or knife, does a dhimmi have property rights, does wife need a burka or just a scarf, what the rate of jizya is?

Tool, utter useless tool.

125 turn  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:25:34pm

Dr. Sanity is going on a blogging hiatus:

"However, I need a break from all the daily insanity. Unfortunately, I am suffering from "blogger burnout", and consequently my level of enthusiasm for blogging has declined. Add to that some significant personal and professional issues; as well as the fact that there are several other major writing projects I have been putting off for a long time now and would like to begin/finish--well, it was either take a long vacation, or quit the blogging rat race entirely."

126 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:25:49pm

re: #114 OldLineTexan

They are entirely too hard to eat while alive. That is what I have found.

LOL!

127 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:25:50pm
128 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:26:00pm

re: #69 eschew_obfuscation


Follow the trail from here, there is a link in the latest article.

www.thegoldenreport.com

129 joncelli  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:26:09pm

re: #104 Ackomanyuki

Sounds like the black helicopters have another pickup to make. (When you hear the rotors, sit very still.)

130 toomanysnax  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:26:19pm

re: #116 galloping granny

I must mention as part of my question that I got a used paperback on Amazon for $1.00 plus postage. The first buyer paid the royalty.

131 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:26:26pm

re: #119 Killian Bundy

And he doesn't have a dog.

/think about that

132 bosforus  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:26:27pm

re: #100 toomanysnax

Wierd!

I also think it's weird that the word 'weird' doesn't follow the "'i' before 'e' except after c and and when sounding like 'a'" rule. Any etymologists out there?

133 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:26:39pm

re: #114 OldLineTexan

They are entirely too hard to eat while alive. That is what I have found.

Ah, wise words from the Texan Sage

134 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:26:50pm

re: #122 Dianna

No, that's my characterization. The deer silhouette is usually portrayed as if it is leaping, and (to my eye) the angle of the antlered head looks awfully cheerful to me. So I don't call it a "deer crossing" sign, but a deer lepping merrily sign.

Coooooooool!

135 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:27:02pm

re: #17 A Kiwi Infidel

I have been reading some stuff which borders on "conspiracy theory" but I would be interested to know if you peoples have coloured disks on your letter boxes?

Have blue and red reflective disks.

Gives the drunk drivers and aiming point.

136 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:27:07pm

re: #100 toomanysnax

Buh-bye.

137 offendi  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:27:12pm

re: #89 MandyManners

That's not nice, but perhaps appropriate.

As a product of American meritocracy I am unfamiliar with salad fork/martial art etiquette. Perhaps a Letticia Baldridge course is in order?

138 MellyMel  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:27:50pm

re: #102 Kosh's Shadow

Well, if a salesman walked up our driveway, through the locked gate with the "Beware of the dog" sign and rang the bell, I think the barking would be enough to convince him to leave.
If he didn't, the sight of two dogs looking at him through the window might.

I purposely don't let the dog (a large golden) out back when they knock like I do when friends and family visit. As soon as I open the door she goes nuts barking and trying to get at them so bad it's hard to hold her back. Little do they know she really just wants to play and wouldn't hurt a fly -- but the look they get (and the backing away slowly) is priceless.

139 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:28:11pm

re: #104 Ackomanyuki

You've been reading Von Neumann's War? Or you know people even more paranoid than some of my friends during the Clinton administration?

140 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:28:17pm

re: #110 Empire1

It's been a while, but there were a lot of cheap ebooks at Fictionwise, and Baen Books has a free ebook library.

141 jamgarr  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:28:20pm

re: #132 bosforus

I also think it's weird that the word 'weird' doesn't follow the "'i' before 'e' except after c and and when sounding like 'a'" rule. Any etymologists out there?

My neighbor weighed in on that once - but never figured it out.

142 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:28:20pm

re: #124 jcm

Get beyond the "terrorist" label, which is another device for barring communication.

The stupid is strong with this one.

143 joncelli  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:29:00pm

re: #110 Empire1

If I could afford it I would get a Kindle -- Amazon keeps adding titles and you're bound to get the fantasy/SF titles you're looking for eventually (I read mostly that too -- it would be great to get A Storm of Swords, etc. in a more portable form). The downside to the Kindle is obsolescence -- what happens to all this reading material 10 years from now?

144 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:29:04pm

re: #125 turn

Dr. Sanity is going on a blogging hiatus:

"However, I need a break from all the daily insanity. Unfortunately, I am suffering from "blogger burnout", and consequently my level of enthusiasm for blogging has declined. Add to that some significant personal and professional issues; as well as the fact that there are several other major writing projects I have been putting off for a long time now and would like to begin/finish--well, it was either take a long vacation, or quit the blogging rat race entirely."

I hope she has a nice break!

145 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:29:07pm

re: #118 MandyManners

Stupid animals encroaching on our civilization.

"Stupid wildlife! Serves 'em right!"

-H. Simpson

146 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:29:11pm

re: #129 joncelli

Sounds like the black helicopters have another pickup to make. (When you hear the rotors, sit very still underneath your foil wrap.)

147 galloping granny  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:29:20pm

re: #110 Empire1

I've got a question (or several) for those of you who have, or at least have seen. e-book readers. They're still awfully pricey for what you get, but I really like the idea of 200 books on an SD chip ... that would free up a lot of space here, and save quite a bit in hardback prices, even at discount. I'm currently leaning toward the HanLin eReader, since it handles the most formats, but I've not made a solid decision.

Do the available titles make it worth getting one at all? (I mostly read SF/Fantasy for fiction, and I think I'd do better to keep my references in paper editions.)

Are they as easy to use as the ads and folks at "Daily Pundit" claim?

Does e-paper really look like paper? I have a hard time reading back-lit material for really long things, but I can read real paper all day, so this is important.

More later, probably, as I get input here!

-- Ann

I've used etexts for a couple of decades now, usually for educational purposes. Project Gutenberg has a huge selection available. eText readers have come and gone over the last decade or so and I'm not buying. The main reason is that I read about 20X faster with paper (which I can take into the tub) than I can on any screen - which is hard on my eyes.

One other problem: you might have 200 books on a chip, but only your specific ebook reader will read them, as there is no universal format. So, the minute something newer, better and tredier comes along, as it will in a couple of years, everything you "own" is now useless, just like out of date software.

148 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:29:51pm

re: #135 jcm

You do?

149 WayDownSouthInBama  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:30:08pm

re: #125 turn

Dr. Sanity is going on a blogging hiatus:

"However, I need a break from all the daily insanity. Unfortunately, I am suffering from "blogger burnout", and consequently my level of enthusiasm for blogging has declined. Add to that some significant personal and professional issues; as well as the fact that there are several other major writing projects I have been putting off for a long time now and would like to begin/finish--well, it was either take a long vacation, or quit the blogging rat race entirely."

AAARRGGGGHHHHH! I LOVE that site! I hope it's a short one. I may need some therapy myself if she stays away for too long.

150 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:30:09pm

re: #137 offendi

That's not nice, but perhaps appropriate.

As a product of American meritocracy I am unfamiliar with salad fork/martial art etiquette. Perhaps a Letticia Baldridge course is in order?

Smile when stabbing.

151 Racer X  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:30:16pm

re: #142 MandyManners

The stupid is strong with this one.

LOL!

152 opnion  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:30:21pm

re: #100 toomanysnax

I'm about half-way through O'Bama's first book. I'm past the part where he's tired of getting high and past the part where he goes to visit his favorite Communist "Frank" and at the part where he is learning about the Nation of Islam. This guy is creepier than any of the press make out. Have any of you lizards read this thing? Does it have a happy ending? Is there a point to all the words other than a half-breed trying to decide which racial team to play on? Wierd!

I read as much as I could stand. He is full of self pity and his wife seems to have real anger issues.
The whole idea of Reverend Wright was for Obama to find his male African American identity. Good choice!

153 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:30:33pm

re: #136 Occasional Reader

Buh-bye.

I'd ding it down a dozen times if I could.

154 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:30:55pm

re: #115 cygnus

I had my treo, but it's hard to get a picture from a car doing 85.

155 OldLineTexan  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:31:18pm

re: #148 A Kiwi Infidel

You do?



Red and Blue. It's for the 3-D effect you get when you cross your eyes. For drunks.

/joke

156 galloping granny  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:31:55pm

re: #105 Occasional Reader

That said, while I favor bullet holes in the signs, I could never bring myself to shoot a deer.

Shooting deer in neither barbaric nor "unkind" - especially if you intend to use the animal as food. Here in New England if we did not allow deer hunting the herds would grow so big that huge numbers would end up dying of starvation each winter. Most of the US has a similar problem.

157 toomanysnax  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:32:03pm

Heard they found blood in Ted Kennedy's arteries.

158 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:32:13pm

re: #145 Occasional Reader

"Stupid wildlife! Serves 'em right!"

-H. Simpson

Living southwest of Denver really opened my eyes. Where tasty deer go, so do the predators.

159 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:32:29pm

re: #147 galloping granny

I've stayed away from the "secure" ebooks at Fictionwise, and gotten the "multiformat" ones. Every time I've wanted to, it let me re-download the book in another format, without buying it again.

160 snopercod  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:32:41pm

This morning at 8:30AM, I put a pork butt on the grill and smoked the delectable thing for 9 hours over oak wine-barrel chips. When the time was right, I chopped it up and smothered it with Spicy BBQ Sauce from [Link: www.henryssmokehouse.com...] Eat your heart out, all you Muslims.

161 turn  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:32:57pm

re: #144 MandyManners

I get the impression this is pretty serious, she may not return at all and I will really miss her posts with clinical explanations for the behavior of the deranged left.

TTFN - Time to walk the black lab.

162 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:32:58pm
163 galloping granny  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:32:58pm

re: #143 joncelli

If I could afford it I would get a Kindle -- Amazon keeps adding titles and you're bound to get the fantasy/SF titles you're looking for eventually (I read mostly that too -- it would be great to get A Storm of Swords, etc. in a more portable form). The downside to the Kindle is obsolescence -- what happens to all this reading material 10 years from now?

Three tops.

164 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:33:10pm

re: #121 Occasional Reader

The sign's design is not my fault.

I suppose my odd sense of humor is, though.

165 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:33:28pm

re: #156 galloping granny

Shooting deer in neither barbaric nor "unkind" - especially if you intend to use the animal as food. Here in New England if we did not allow deer hunting the herds would grow so big that huge numbers would end up dying of starvation each winter. Most of the US has a similar problem.

I'm not arguing with you, just saying *I* couldn't bring myself to do it (unless I had to in order to eat, or feed my family... or, self-defense against Attack Deer, I suppose).

166 Creeping Eruption[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:33:28pm
167 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:34:04pm

re: #162 buzzsawmonkey

The pre-daters on eHarmony are also looking for tasty dears.

HA! One reason why I will steer clear of that place when I get back to dating.

168 godfrey  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:34:11pm

Mmm. Deer.

169 galloping granny  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:34:13pm

re: #159 Kosh's Shadow

I've stayed away from the "secure" ebooks at Fictionwise, and gotten the "multiformat" ones. Every time I've wanted to, it let me re-download the book in another format, without buying it again.

For now. Give it a bit to become popular and you won't see that happen any more than you can trade in your DVDs for BluRay discs.

170 Russkilitlover  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:34:16pm

re: #106 cygnus

Now I know that I'll never vote for him. He's a liberal appeaser who hates cats. Loser.

Wasn't The Mummy afraid of cats, too? Hmmm.....

171 jamgarr  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:34:21pm

re: #160 snopercod

This morning at 8:30AM, I put a pork butt on the grill and smoked the delectable thing for 9 hours over oak wine-barrel chips. When the time was right, I chopped it up and smothered it with Spicy BBQ Sauce from [Link: www.henryssmokehouse.com...] Eat your heart out, all you Muslims.

Smoked the pork ribs yesterday with mesquite - tasty!

172 Charles  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:34:31pm

re: #100 toomanysnax

Way wrong. I'm not blocking you because I don't see any history of this in your other comments. Another incident will do it, though.

173 The Other Les  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:34:31pm

re: #157 toomanysnax

Heard they found blood in Ted Kennedy's arteries.

Time for a ... naaah ... I'd better not. It would be too obvious.

174 Ackomanyuki  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:34:33pm

re: #139 Dianna


Von Neumann's War?

175 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:34:43pm

re: #164 Dianna

The sign's design is not my fault.

What we're asking about is the "lepping" misspelling. That was on the sign? Or it's just your own typo?

176 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:34:54pm

re: #166 Creeping Eruption

The post is gone.

177 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:34:57pm

re: #166 Creeping Eruption

Don't quote deletable posts, it makes more work for Stinky.

178 OldLineTexan  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:34:58pm

re: #157 toomanysnax

I think we have a moratorium on Kennedy levity. Not sure, but that's the way it seems to me.

179 Ward Cleaver  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:35:01pm

re: #166 Creeping Eruption

UNCOOL! Get lost

It's gone.

180 galloping granny  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:35:20pm

re: #165 Occasional Reader

I'm not arguing with you, just saying *I* couldn't bring myself to do it (unless I had to in order to eat, or feed my family... or, self-defense against Attack Deer, I suppose).

Most of the hunters that I know hunt specifically to feed their families and to keep up their skills in case they ever have to hunt to feed their families.

181 opnion  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:35:29pm

re: #119 Killian Bundy

And he doesn't have a dog.

/think about that

Yeah, I noticed that no dog. There is a major religion that hates dogs.
Wait a minute, you don't think..........? Nah

182 godfrey  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:35:44pm

Kennedy "levity"? Isn't that some kind of oxymoron?

183 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:35:45pm

re: #148 A Kiwi Infidel

You do?

This kind of thing.
When we moved in our box was a target.
Putting 'em on only made it worse.
Took 'em off only have to replace once a year now.

184 Ward Cleaver  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:35:46pm

re: #172 Charles

Way wrong. I'm not blocking you because I don't see any history of this in your other comments. Another incident will do it, though.

It was okay until he got to the last part.

185 eschew_obfuscation  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:35:55pm

re: #128 A Kiwi Infidel

Follow the trail from here, there is a link in the latest article.

www.thegoldenreport.com

Wow....those people have cornered the market on tin-foil hats!

186 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:35:59pm

Re: #172--

I'M BEGINNING TO SUSPECT THAT "STINKY BEAUMONT" AND "CHARLES JOHNSON" ARE THE SAME PERSON!

/cue X-Files theme music

187 rawmuse  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:36:21pm

re: #80 DownRightMeanAmerican

Where did door to door solicitors get the idea that ringing my door bell rapidly 5 times and then immediately giving 12 or so forceful knocks on my hollow core thin skinned wood front door, would make me want to do anything else but kick the solicitor right between the legs rapidly 5 times then immediately give a dozen or so forceful knocks on their forehead.

Then I would loudly proclaim, “the lights are on, but nobody is home”, a**hole, and no I don’t want any.

Rant off.

I took my doorbell off. Anyone wants me calls me first and tells me they are coming over. Plus I have a web-cam that shows me who is at my front door. That way I avoid being gang-saved by the Jehovah's.

188 Russkilitlover  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:36:24pm

re: #118 MandyManners

Stupid animals encroaching on our civilization.

Democrats?

189 Creeping Eruption  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:36:30pm

re: #177 CyanSnowHawk

Don't quote deletable posts, it makes more work for Stinky.

You are right. My bad. Douche-bags like that usually don't even know what they did wrong unless you point it out. - Won't happen again.

190 godfrey  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:36:44pm

re: #186 Occasional Reader

Stinky Beaumont sounds like a flatpicking champion from Kansas.

191 DownRightMeanAmerican  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:36:55pm

re: #97 Creeping Eruption

I had full metal jacket playing, so I had a different mind set, but that is one good idea. I think I can slurp like Doctor lector though.

re: #102 Kosh's Shadow

Living on a postage stamp So Cal circa 1970 1,400 square foot home on a enormous 5,000 square foot lot, if I put up a fence I would have to knock a big hole in the garage just so my truck would fit in the driveway.

192 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:37:05pm

Charles, please delete my No. 112, too. I quoted a bit of it. Sorry to be a bother.

193 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:37:36pm

re: #168 godfrey

Mmm. Deer.

Yes, indeed, hopefully

194 GGMac  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:37:42pm

re: #127 buzzsawmonkey

Liberals look backwards with longing to the Kennedy era, during which they viewd the US as Camelot.

Liberals look forward with longing to an Obama presidency, under which his appeasement of the Islamists will turn the US into a camel lot.

Too funny...while pathetically true.

195 bosforus  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:37:43pm

re: #192 MandyManners

Charles, please delete my No. 112, too. I quoted a bit of it. Sorry to be a bother.

#116's got it too.

196 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:38:07pm

re: #188 Russkilitlover

Democrats?

Let's not confuse the noble deer and bald eagles with Democrats, please.

197 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:38:15pm

re: #189 Creeping Eruption

You are right. My bad. Douche-bags like that usually don't even know what they did wrong unless you point it out. - Won't happen again.

I have to learn to read the posts I quote more carefully.
Twice now I've missed the slur on first reading, and replied.

However, I have taken to "replying" instead of quoting when the context is obvious enough, or not necessary.

198 Honorary Yooper  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:38:18pm

re: #192 MandyManners

I can't even make sense of what he wrote from your #112.

199 OldLineTexan  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:38:28pm

re: #182 godfrey

Kennedy "levity"? Isn't that some kind of oxymoron?

Not in my opinion. Why do you think so?

200 The Other Les  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:38:31pm

re: #186 Occasional Reader

Re: #172--

I'M BEGINNING TO SUSPECT THAT "STINKY BEAUMONT" AND "CHARLES JOHNSON" ARE THE SAME PERSON!

/cue X-Files theme music

How would he get any sleep?

(Unless he really is a lizardroid from the planet Aidemydni.)

201 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:38:45pm

re: #190 godfrey

Stinky Beaumont sounds like a flatpicking champion from Kansas.

"Kansas"? Oh, you mean one of those "states in the middle"...

/channeling BHO

202 hazzyday  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:38:53pm

re: #77 Pshawalaw

Obama also can't handle Fox News, surely he can't handle Ahmydinnerjacket if he can't take a few questions from Chris Wallace.

This a point McCain needs to debate him about.

203 galloping granny  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:39:25pm

re: #195 bosforus

#116's got it too.

Yup. Mandy and I must both be napping at the keyboard this afternoon. That kind of trash doesn't usually elude both of us.

204 wrenchwench  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:39:43pm

You know, if you head west on Interstate 10 from L.A., sooner or later you go through Beaumont, CA. The name of the next town is Banning.

205 nikis-knight  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:39:51pm

re: #124 jcm

There is a whole Internet jeering section that considers this a weakling's argument. Gotta be tough. Don't give an inch. They also seem to think the United States is surrounded, beleaguered, encircled, vulnerable and insecure. I see a nation that is a dominant superpower that might profit greatly if it listened more.

I don't think he means profit, I think he means "become more socialist like I'd like it to."

206 Russkilitlover  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:40:01pm

re: #127 buzzsawmonkey

Liberals look backwards with longing to the Kennedy era, during which they viewd the US as Camelot.

It was only TWO frigging years! Just what did Kennedy do that is so revered today? Cripes, I that the whole Kennedy adoration thing.

207 galloping granny  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:40:19pm

re: #197 Kosh's Shadow

I have to learn to read the posts I quote more carefully.
Twice now I've missed the slur on first reading, and replied.

However, I have taken to "replying" instead of quoting when the context is obvious enough, or not necessary.

I mostly hate it when people reply instead of quoting, because I then end up having to scroll back and forth up the thread.

208 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:40:21pm

re: #199 OldLineTexan

Not in my opinion. Why do you think so?

I think he means there's nothing "light" about Ted Kennedy.

(and yes, I wish him a speedy recovery, followed by retirement from public life and a conservative elected in his place)

209 vagabond trader  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:40:23pm

re: #184 Ward Cleaver

I dinged afore noting that also.I've seen worse slip through.

210 wrenchwench  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:40:42pm

Ooops, that would be east...

211 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:41:08pm

re: #183 jcm

This kind of thing.
When we moved in our box was a target.
Putting 'em on only made it worse.
Took 'em off only have to replace once a year now.


then you will get a real kick out of this, see post #128, follow link

212 joncelli  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:41:09pm

re: #204 wrenchwench

Now that calls for the Twilight Zone music. (Doodledoodle, doodldoodle.)

213 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:41:10pm

re: #186 Occasional Reader

I don;t think so... Charles is much more handsome and Stinky is... well stinky - but lovable.

214 bosforus  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:41:13pm

re: #203 galloping granny

Yup. Mandy and I must both be napping at the keyboard this afternoon. That kind of trash doesn't usually elude both of us.

The comment rubbed me the wrong way but I'm a horrible judge of what should and shouldn't be banned so I usually just keep my mouth shut.

215 Killian Bundy  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:41:49pm

half - breed

Okay, I get it, good for the seventies.

/not so much anymore

216 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:41:51pm

re: #207 galloping granny

I mostly hate it when people reply instead of quoting

We have been requested by Senior Management to do just that in referencing a deletable post, so that Stinky does not have to delete multiple posts.

217 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:41:51pm

re: #174 Ackomanyuki

I think it was just released in paperback. It's by John Ringo and Dr. Travis. I liked it quite well.

One character in it has a lot of stuff delivered to an abandoned mine.

218 godfrey  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:42:03pm

re: #199 OldLineTexan

The distinguished Senator from Massachusetts can rather tip the old scale, what?

re: #201 Occasional Reader

He probably thinks bluegrassers clap on the one and the three. Show 'em how it's done, Bryan Sutton.

219 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:42:11pm

re: #185 eschew_obfuscation


Yes, I thought that, but it always pays to check.

220 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:42:19pm

re: #204 wrenchwench

Yes, between Redlands and Joshua Tree.

221 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:42:25pm

BBL!

222 Creeping Eruption  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:42:54pm

re: #214 bosforus

The comment rubbed me the wrong way but I'm a horrible judge of what should and shouldn't be banned so I usually just keep my mouth shut.

Trust your instincts on something like that.

223 Honorary Yooper  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:43:00pm

re: #200 The Other Les

How would he get any sleep?

(Unless he really is a lizardroid from the planet Aidemydni.)

Are you sure he sleeps? "Stiny Beaumont" could be the anglicised version of what his Aidemydni name is, and "Charles Johnson" is just a cover to make people think he and Stinky are two different beings.

224 galloping granny  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:43:01pm

re: #216 Occasional Reader

We have been requested by Senior Management to do just that in referencing a deletable post, so that Stinky does not have to delete multiple posts.

True - however, I missed the deletable bit buried in the last sentence.

225 joncelli  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:43:04pm

Time to head home, Lizards. See you tonight.

226 Cognito  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:43:15pm

How brave of Google. They traced and gave up an Indian dissident to the government for offending a politician.

227 snopercod  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:43:20pm

re: #171 jamgarr

Mesquite sounds good. I used to use that when I lived out West. I'll have to try and locate a source for it here in NC. Hickory trees are like weeds here , though (grin). Wanna' trade?

228 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:43:23pm

re: #207 galloping granny

I mostly hate it when people reply instead of quoting, because I then end up having to scroll back and forth up the thread.

That's why I quote usually, but sometimes, I miss the slur and my brilliant commentary gets deleted too.

Like this time, on how Obama's book ends.
I said the happy ending comes when he loses by a landslide and retires to Iran.

229 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:43:49pm

re: #205 nikis-knight

I don't think he means profit, I think he means "become more socialist like I'd like it to."

Ding, Ding.
He writes in a town with a Lenin Statue, that thinks Patty Murray is Senate material, and that Jim McDermott is a voice of reason.

230 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:44:24pm

re: #223 Honorary Yooper

and "Charles Johnson" is just a cover

Definitely. We're supposed to think "Charles Johnson" is a real name?! I suppose his address is "123 Fake Street", right?!

/

231 Creeping Eruption  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:44:25pm

re: #228 Kosh's Shadow

I'm glad you are not referring to any other "happy endings." That would not be a book I would be interested in reading.

232 bosforus  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:44:29pm

re: #222 Creeping Eruption

Trust your instincts on something like that.

[burying my head in shame]
Not really, I just wanted an excuse to link to that picture.

233 galloping granny  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:44:46pm

re: #226 Cognito

How brave of Google. They traced and gave up an Indian dissident to the government for offending a politician.

I don't like Google. They do this in China too. I don't see them rushing to track down the jihadis who post snuff videos on YouTube (owned by Google) though, do you?

234 Creeping Eruption  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:44:47pm

re: #230 Occasional Reader

Definitely. We're supposed to think "Charles Johnson" is a real name?! I suppose his address is "123 Fake Street", right?!

/

Nope. 2121 N. Jump St.

235 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:44:51pm

re: #175 Occasional Reader

I spent far too much of my 20's among the Irish. The Irish do not leap, they lep. Thus, lepping.

The deer, as I said, looks awfully cheerful. I think it's lepping about, not leaping.

/I'm digging in deeper, aren't I?

236 nikis-knight  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:45:10pm

re: #196 MandyManners

Let's not confuse the noble deer and bald eagles with Democrats, please.

One of those three is a very patriotic group.

237 opnion  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:46:00pm

re: #228 Kosh's Shadow

That's why I quote usually, but sometimes, I miss the slur and my brilliant commentary gets deleted too.

Like this time, on how Obama's book ends.
I said the happy ending comes when he loses by a landslide and retires to Iran.


I don' know about that. Isn't Bary a Suni?

238 Cognito  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:46:02pm

re: #233 galloping granny

I don't like Google. They do this in China too. I don't see them rushing to track down the jihadis who post snuff videos on YouTube (owned by Google) though, do you?

It's indefensible. They said, "But the government subpoenaed us!"

Well, you know what? Sometimes subpoenas are meant to be ignored.

239 MellyMel  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:46:14pm

re: #187 rawmuse

I took my doorbell off. Anyone wants me calls me first and tells me they are coming over. Plus I have a web-cam that shows me who is at my front door. That way I avoid being gang-saved by the Jehovah's.

"gang-saved" -- I love it! Good one.

240 Ackomanyuki  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:46:15pm

re: #217 Dianna

Thanks,

I just looked at a quick review. John Ringo, I've heard of, never read.

No tinfoil needed on data storage redundancy for alphabets.

241 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:46:20pm

re: #187 rawmuse


Daughter rang me at work yesterday. She was at home on her day off. The JW's were walking up the neighbours driveway. "what do I do if they come here and knock on the door?"

"Are the dogs* out?"

"Yes"

"then dont worry"

* Stella, 8 year german shepherd bitch, Ringo 18month german shepherd dog, 42 kilos, barks loudly

242 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:47:07pm
... I have the Cubs' magic number at 117 and the [White] Sox at 118. Is it too early to start running one of those cheap graphic countdown devices? Look, if the main news section can run delegate counts since the Iowa Caucuses, then the Sports section should have its own countdown gizmo, too, sweetie.

By Steve Rosenbloom, columnist for the Chicago Tribune

243 itellu3times  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:47:22pm

re: #127 buzzsawmonkey

Liberals look backwards with longing to the Kennedy era, during which they viewd the US as Camelot.

Camelot fell. Maybe it's the fall they really want to repeat.

244 Honorary Yooper  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:47:43pm

re: #236 nikis-knight

re: #196 MandyManners

Let's not confuse the noble deer and bald eagles with Democrats, please.


One of those three is a very patriotic group.

Yep, bald eagles are very patriotic. On the other hand, never question a Dem's patriotism even if he/she is working with the enemy.

245 eschew_obfuscation  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:48:55pm

re: #223 Honorary Yooper

Are you sure he sleeps? "Stiny Beaumont" could be the anglicised version of what his Aidemydni name is, and "Charles Johnson" is just a cover to make people think he and Stinky are two different beings.


Oh, I get it......"Charles Johnson" is Stinky' sock puppet!

246 rawmuse  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:48:57pm

re: #239 MellyMel

"gang-saved" -- I love it! Good one.

Don't you notice they show up in groups of five or six?

247 jamgarr  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:49:38pm

re: #227 snopercod

Mesquite sounds good. I used to use that when I lived out West. I'll have to try and locate a source for it here in NC. Hickory trees are like weeds here , though (grin). Wanna' trade?

Hickory is probably my favorite. Apple's good too. My mesquite comes from the grocery store.

248 Empire1  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:50:15pm

re: #143 joncelli

If I could afford it I would get a Kindle -- Amazon keeps adding titles and you're bound to get the fantasy/SF titles you're looking for eventually (I read mostly that too -- it would be great to get A Storm of Swords, etc. in a more portable form). The downside to the Kindle is obsolescence -- what happens to all this reading material 10 years from now?

The Kindle is tempting for those reasons, but it's $400, and only handles 3 formats -- though one is Amazon's proprietary AZW (which I admit bugs me no end -- I want to buy a book and read it the way I can do on paper, not have to worry about who published it and what reader that publisher will let it be seen on.)

-- Ann

249 Russkilitlover  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:51:41pm

re: #196 MandyManners

Let's not confuse the noble deer and bald eagles with Democrats, please.

My bad and a thousand apologies to the entire animal kingdom. I should have said Liberals, anyway. There are some non-moonbat Dems and I sure do hope they come out in droves to vote Repub this Nov.

250 debutaunt  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:51:49pm

re: #63 Dianna

I've been wondering something. When we were up in Sonoma for a wedding, it seemed to me that their "watch out for deer lepping merrily across the freeway" signs portrayed a rather rotund fellow, while Alameda, San Mateo and Santa Clara Counties used a buck with a nice, tucked little belly.

Has anyone else noted this variation anywhere else?

Someone up Napa way might be giving some 'beer-bellies to Bambi?

251 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:52:45pm
252 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:53:06pm

re: #246 rawmuse

No more than three in the 'burbs.

I must say, at least they haven't found my new place, yet. I generally give the Mormon kids some water or 7-up if they come by during the summer, though I won't let them tell me about their religion or give me any reading material.

253 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:53:33pm
254 MellyMel  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:53:56pm

re: #246 rawmuse

Don't you notice they show up in groups of five or six?

Oh yeah -- and they keep coming back. Last time I answered the door I told them we were Jewish and not converting (and pointed to the mezuzah). (Small lie, my husband is Jewish I am not). The next time they came, he answered the door and they told him I asked them to come back. Creeping me out really.

255 Render  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:54:08pm

re: #111 OldLineTexan

No jest.

However Kennedy was clearly not responsible for the debacle it became afterward.

HE'S
DEAD
JIM,
R

256 DownRightMeanAmerican  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:54:18pm

re: #187 rawmuse

Why that’s no fun, them JW’s can be a real hoot. I think they are on to me, they keep sending me the really old ones and I don’t have the heart to challenge them.

257 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:54:25pm

re: #250 debutaunt

Considering that the couple deer I did see in Sonoma looked like they could stand to go on a low-carb diet, the signs are very representative.

258 galloping granny  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:56:13pm

re: #254 MellyMel

Oh yeah -- and they keep coming back. Last time I answered the door I told them we were Jewish and not converting (and pointed to the mezuzah). (Small lie, my husband is Jewish I am not). The next time they came, he answered the door and they told him I asked them to come back. Creeping me out really.

Tell them the next time they come back you will call the police. Or answer the door naked. Either way, you won't see them again.

259 Empire1  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:56:52pm

re: #147 galloping granny


One other problem: you might have 200 books on a chip, but only your specific ebook reader will read them, as there is no universal format. So, the minute something newer, better and tredier comes along, as it will in a couple of years, everything you "own" is now useless, just like out of date software.

::groan:: Yes, one of the reasons I'm reluctant, despite the convenience. I've still got books published before I was born that are easily readable (an antique Bible I got my mother, then got back when she died, for instance). But things I put on a 3.5" disk are unreadable now without an expensive transfer to CD ...

-- Ann

260 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:56:58pm

re: #257 Dianna

Considering that the couple deer I did see in Sonoma looked like they could stand to go on a low-carb diet, the signs are very representative.

Don't worry, President Obama will convince those deer that they can't just eat as much as they want, and expect other countries to say, "that's okay".

261 itellu3times  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:57:43pm

re: #253 buzzsawmonkey

They think Obama is King Arthur, when he's really Mordred.

And Hillary is Morgana, I think I said the other day.

262 Russkilitlover  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:57:44pm

re: #243 itellu3times

Camelot fell. Maybe it's the fall they really want to repeat.

And it fell through betrayal from within. Camelot. It's really not such a good label.

263 nikis-knight  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:57:50pm

re: #229 jcm

Ding, Ding.
He writes in a town with a Lenin Statue, that thinks Patty Murray is Senate material, and that Jim McDermott is a voice of treason.

Fixed it for him. (according to a recent spin-off link, anyway.)

264 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:58:50pm
265 itellu3times  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:58:59pm

re: #262 Russkilitlover

And it fell through betrayal from within. Camelot. It's really not such a good label.

Watch out for any French guys in Obama's inner circle.

266 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:59:19pm

re: #258 galloping granny

Granny, "Naked at the door?"


I thought I was the only one who had done that... Made some very determined solicitor (sales not legal) very, very nervous, too.

267 galloping granny  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:59:40pm

re: #259 Empire1

::groan:: Yes, one of the reasons I'm reluctant, despite the convenience. I've still got books published before I was born that are easily readable (an antique Bible I got my mother, then got back when she died, for instance). But things I put on a 3.5" disk are unreadable now without an expensive transfer to CD ...

-- Ann

Yup. I own close to 40K worth of software that is on the "big" 1.2 MB floppies that is unreadable.

268 yochanan  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:59:52pm

re: #158 MandyManners

Living southwest of Denver really opened my eyes. Where tasty deer go, so do the predators.

WE HAVE PLENTY OF DEER IN C(R)OOK COUNTRY WOULD EXPLAIN THE COUGAR (FOUR LEGGED KIND) THEY SHOT WITH IN WALKING DISTANCE OF THE LOUP (DOWN TOWN CHICAGO)

269 opnion  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:00:09pm

re: #262 Russkilitlover

And it fell through betrayal from within. Camelot. It's really not such a good label.

The really big reason for tying the kennedys to Camelot is that the musical stage play was huge at the time

270 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:01:56pm

re: #268 yochanan

Especially in news Western Crook County! Talk about a lack of foliage on some of the tasty young shoots, too.

271 Russkilitlover  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:02:06pm

re: #269 opnion

The really big reason for tying the kennedys to Camelot is that the musical stage play was huge at the time

Then we should call the Obama years American Idol.

272 The Other Les  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:02:16pm

re: #264 buzzsawmonkey

You could just hang the dessicated corpse of a chicken butchered according to Santeria rites on your front door like a wreath. It will probably keep unwanted callers at bay, and your friends will know and understand.

Would a rubber chicken do?

273 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:02:51pm

re: #270 Conservative in Liberal Hands

Especially in news Western Crook County! Talk about a lack of foliage on some of the tasty young shoots, too.

Just washed my hands and can't type.

274 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:02:56pm
275 nikis-knight  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:03:24pm

re: #271 Russkilitlover

Then we should call the Obama years American Idol.

Oh that's good. Similar in depth, demographics, and repetition of voting come Novemeber, I'll wager.

276 opnion  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:03:56pm

re: #271 Russkilitlover

Then we should call the Obama years American Idol.


How about, Deal or no deal?

277 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:03:57pm

re: #268 yochanan

THE COUGAR (FOUR LEGGED KIND) THEY SHOT WITH IN WALKING DISTANCE OF THE LOUP

A cougar within walking distance of a (French) wolf? All you need is a bear, and... oh my!

278 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:04:03pm
279 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:04:39pm

re: #276 opnion

How about, Deal or no deal?

Lost comes to mind.

280 nikis-knight  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:05:55pm

re: #271 Russkilitlover

Then we should call the Obama years American Idol.

Actually, given his voting patterns, maybe it should be American Idle.

/In before Buzzsawmonkey?

281 debutaunt  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:06:15pm

re: #106 cygnus

Now I know that I'll never vote for him. He's a liberal appeaser who hates cats. Loser.

You can train a cat to do anything it wants to do. - Solomon Short

282 opnion  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:06:19pm

re: #279 Occasional Reader

Lost comes to mind.

283 Granola  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:07:05pm

re: #270 Conservative in Liberal Hands

Especially in news Western Crook County! Talk about a lack of foliage on some of the tasty young shoots, too.

Lack of hunters and hunting will do that.

284 Killian Bundy  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:07:39pm

re: #268 yochanan

WE HAVE PLENTY OF DEER IN C(R)OOK COUNTRY WOULD EXPLAIN THE COUGAR (FOUR LEGGED KIND) THEY SHOT WITH IN WALKING DISTANCE OF THE LOUP (DOWN TOWN CHICAGO)

Downtown Chicago, toss a donut on the sidewalk.

/what happens next?

285 Russkilitlover  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:08:00pm

re: #279 Occasional Reader

Lost comes to mind.

That's the winner!

286 opnion  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:09:24pm

re: #283 Granola

Lack of hunters and hunting will do that.


Cook county does not have a lot of hunters, but there is still a lot of gun play.

287 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:09:31pm

I'm off for a run. Hopefully I won't be attacked by cougars.

288 gop_patriot  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:09:40pm

re: #284 Killian Bundy

Downtown Chicago, toss a donut on the sidewalk.

/what happens next?

Dang, I should know this one!

/Just came up on your last pop quiz...

289 Cognito  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:09:43pm

From the Dept. of Heinous Acts:

People in South Africa have a new hobby: Burning foreigners alive.

Rocks and fire. Nice.

290 opnion  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:09:54pm

re: #285 Russkilitlover

That's the winner!


I second

291 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:11:43pm

re: #289 Cognito

From the Dept. of Heinous Acts:

People in South Africa have a new hobby: Burning foreigners alive.

Rocks and fire. Nice.

Delightful.
/

292 bosforus  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:12:21pm

re: #289 Cognito

Here's a gem of a quote.


They are bad people, he said: “A South African may take your cell phone but he won’t kill you. A foreigner will take your phone and kill you.”
293 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:12:46pm

re: #260 Occasional Reader

Obambi! You're eating too much and have too large a carbon footprint!

- BOH

294 Conspirator  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:13:32pm

Here's yet another good Obama cartoon from [Link: www.americanthinker.com....]

295 debutaunt  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:13:48pm

re: #137 offendi

That's not nice, but perhaps appropriate.

As a product of American meritocracy I am unfamiliar with salad fork/martial art etiquette. Perhaps a Letticia Baldridge course is in order?

She was very funny.

296 Killian Bundy  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:14:03pm

re: #288 gop_patriot

Dang, I should know this one!

Just came up on your last pop quiz...

/it's actually pretty amazing and Alfred Hitchcock is dead

297 bosforus  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:14:07pm

It'd be nice if some day in this world we didn't have to see pictures of people being put out by fire extinguishers.

298 gop_patriot  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:14:49pm

re: #289 Cognito

Oh, God. That's despicable.

/but the USA is the worst country in the history of the world, and treats it's illegal immigrants the worst, by heinously deporting them

299 Racer X  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:15:28pm

re: #298 gop_patriot

Oh, God. That's despicable.

/but the USA is the worst country in the history of the world, and treats it's illegal immigrants the worst, by heinously NOT deporting them

Fixed.

300 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:15:33pm

re: #297 bosforus

It'd be nice if some day in this world we didn't have to see pictures of people being put out by fire extinguishers.

I saw that, and thought cleaning him up will be hell. (I familiar with want goes on on a burn ward)

301 gop_patriot  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:15:46pm

re: #296 Killian Bundy

/it's actually pretty amazing and Alfred Hitchcock is dead

Da birds!

/complete with Chicago accent

302 gop_patriot  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:16:20pm

re: #299 Racer X

True, true.

303 Russkilitlover  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:16:48pm

re: #293 Dianna

Obambi! You're eating too much and have too large a carbon footprint!

- BOH

I think I've missed something. What are the comments about Obama saying we eat too much about?

304 bosforus  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:17:17pm

re: #300 jcm

I saw that, and thought cleaning him up will be hell. (I familiar with want goes on on a burn ward)

My brother was in South Africa about 15 years ago and remembers seeing news footage of a person who had a tire thrown around him and set on fire.

305 Mich-again  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:18:12pm

The South African "Necktie". One of Winnie Mandela's favorite tactics for political foes.

306 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:20:11pm

re: #303 Russkilitlover

Another of his gaffes - this one was in an earlier thread.

307 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:20:45pm
308 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:21:05pm

BHO in Pendleton OR.

If Iran ever tried to pose a serious threat to us, they wouldn't stand a chance. And we should use that position of strength that we have to be bold enough to go ahead and listen. That doesn't mean we agree with them on everything. We might not compromise on any issues, but at least, we should find out other areas of potential common interest, and we can reduce some of the tensions that has caused us so many problems around the world."

19 hijackers and 4 planes made for a bad day.
What's 15Kt in Manhattan gonna' look like?

Do you understand Barack, Dinnerjacket and the Mad Mullahs DON'T CARE IF THEY DON'T STAND A CHANCE.
THEY WELCOME IT!

309 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:21:32pm

re: #307 song_and_dance_man

Well, thank goodness for that!

310 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:21:53pm

re: #304 bosforus

My brother was in South Africa about 15 years ago and remembers seeing news footage of a person who had a tire thrown around him and set on fire.

Necklacing. Wonderful quaint cultural practice.
/////

311 tigerwoman  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:23:13pm

Is the "driving SUV's, eating all we want, and keeping our thermostats at 72" comment getting any play? That bastard. I'll set my f#$%#ing thermostat wherever I want. This comment really chaps my ass! He wants the rest of us to live like the f#$%ing third worlders while he lives in a mansion. That bastard.

312 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:23:42pm

re: #310 jcm

That was also done in Haiti. Horrible business.

313 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:24:36pm

re: #311 tigerwoman

Well, you know, he needs that mansion to be at 72 degrees so he can keep a cool head and work for all of us.

/

314 DownRightMeanAmerican  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:24:39pm

New avatar, I am the big shark fisherman. /

Why is it that I always seem to hear my cell phone ringing when its not, yet when it really does ring I don’t hear it.

I think I have cell phonephobia.

315 Mich-again  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:24:57pm

re: #308 jcm

And we should use that position of strength...

Weapons are only a deterrent if your foe believes you will actually use them. And Flat Barry ain't scaring anybody in Iran.

316 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:26:12pm

re: #312 Dianna

That was also done in Haiti. Horrible business.

Hard to imagine. That amount of brutality.

317 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:26:18pm
318 DownRightMeanAmerican  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:27:08pm

What’s this thermostat at 72 BS, mine is at 78 for the last week and the damn thing wont shut off, Thanks Al Gore you ***hole.

319 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:27:10pm

re: #315 Mich-again

Weapons are only a deterrent if your foe believes you will actually use them. And Flat Barry ain't scaring anybody in Iran.

He might not scare 'em in Tehran, but I sure got the jitters.

320 bosforus  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:28:21pm

re: #316 jcm

Hard to imagine. That amount of brutality.

I'd be surprised if it didn't originate from the Quran.

321 tigerwoman  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:29:37pm

I don't need Obama working for me. Even if he is a candidate for the POTUS!

322 Yankee Division Son  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:29:38pm

re: #311 tigerwoman

Is the "driving SUV's, eating all we want, and keeping our thermostats at 72" comment getting any play? That bastard. I'll set my f#$%#ing thermostat wherever I want. This comment really chaps my ass! He wants the rest of us to live like the f#$%ing third worlders while he lives in a mansion. That bastard.

This reminds me of a Carter speach "turn down your thermostat, and wear a sweater, leave your car home once a week, carpool, it's your duty!" I think it was the "malaise" speach...

Obama, the candidate for those who didn't get enough of the Carter administration.

323 Russkilitlover  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:29:52pm

re: #317 buzzsawmonkey

Brilliant. You've outdone yourself on this one.

324 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:29:59pm

re: #320 bosforus

I'd be surprised if it didn't originate from the Quran.

Given the groups involved I'd suspect Lefortovo first.

325 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:30:25pm

I'm headed home.

Take care, all!

326 DesertSage  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:30:38pm

Thermostat?

What's all this thermostat crap? I have one little window A/C for the entire house, and I barely use it.

327 Mich-again  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:31:03pm

When Barry makes a foreign policy statement he has to walk the thin line between reality and what his base constituency believes reality to be. The width of that line is the square root of negative 1. That explains the imaginary nature of his strategy.

328 sngnsgt  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:31:51pm

re: #311 tigerwoman

Is the "driving SUV's, eating all we want, and keeping our thermostats at 72" comment getting any play? That bastard. I'll set my f#$%#ing thermostat wherever I want. This comment really chaps my ass! He wants the rest of us to live like the f#$%ing third worlders while he lives in a mansion. That bastard.

When he proves to me he's living anywhere near these standards, then he can talk to me about what my thermostat is set to, what I drive, and how much fossil fuel I burn! Go f*#$ yourself Obama!

329 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:32:09pm

I think Hugh Hewitt just announced John Bolton up next on his program.

330 bosforus  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:32:13pm

re: #324 jcm

Given the groups involved I'd suspect Lefortovo first.

I don't follow. A quick google search of Lefortovo told me what that is but I don't understand how it applies here.

331 yochanan  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:32:51pm

re: #291 jcm

Delightful.
/

S. A. is only 10 years behind zimbawa i suspect many will look back on apartied a little more kindly in the future, of course apartied was racist and undemocratic but they did believe in a rule of law which they don't seem to have now.

332 Mich-again  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:33:50pm

re: #319 jcm

He has to get Hillary off his ankle first. And she's got the jaws of a pit bull.

333 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:34:06pm
"If Iran ever tried to pose a serious threat to us, they wouldn't stand a chance. And we should use that position of strength that we have to be bold enough to go ahead and listen. That doesn't mean we agree with them on everything. We might not compromise on any issues, but at least, we should find out other areas of potential common interest, and we can reduce some of the tensions that has caused us so many problems around the world."


If he keeps talking he will get the republicans to the polls. He's as dangerous as the enemy.
Wow! just Wow!

334 DesertSage  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:34:37pm

re: #331 yochanan

S. A. is only 10 years behind zimbawa...

Saudi Arabia?
San Antonio?

335 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:35:16pm

re: #330 bosforus

I don't follow. A quick google search of Lefortovo told me what that is but I don't understand how it applies here.

The current government and Mendela are solid Red in out look. I suspect the practice of Necklacing was a little intimidation practice cooked up by the KGB back in the "good" old days.

336 Mich-again  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:35:40pm

re: #311 tigerwoman

Is the "driving SUV's, eating all we want, and keeping our thermostats at 72" comment getting any play?

Any estimates on the carbon footprint of Jeremiah Wright's taxpayer subsidized mansion?

337 bosforus  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:35:46pm

re: #335 jcm

Gotcha

338 rageman  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:36:11pm

Obama should see if Carter is available to serve as VP. Birds of a feather....

339 yochanan  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:36:39pm

re: #334 DesertSage

south africa

340 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:37:02pm

re: #328 sngnsgt

When he proves to me he's living anywhere near these standards, then he can talk to me about what my thermostat is set to, what I drive, and how much fossil fuel I burn! Go f*#$ yourself Obama!

Do you remember this?

In other words, the temperature of your home will no longer be yours to control. Your desires and needs can and will be overridden by the state of California through its public and private utility organizations. All this is for the common good, of course.
341 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:37:29pm
342 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:38:19pm
343 rageman  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:39:23pm

No se puede (in CA).

344 Mich-again  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:39:41pm

Bob Seger wrote the theme song for this Summer's DNC convention..

Get out Denver baby go...
Get out of Denver baby go go..
Get out of Denver cause you look just like a commie and you might just be a member baby..
Get out of Denver baby go-oh-oh..

Soon to be followed by "Like a Rock" when the polls come out afterward.

345 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:42:04pm

re: #344 Mich-again

Bob Seger wrote the theme song for this Summer's DNC convention..

Soon to be followed by "Like a Rock" when the polls come out afterward.

I was thinking all the delegates around the Pepsi Center singing We didn't Start the Fire.

346 Mich-again  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:43:33pm

re: #345 jcm

I was thinking all the delegates around the Pepsi Center singing We didn't Start the Fire.

And theres always, "Send in the Clowns"

347 gop_patriot  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:43:37pm

re: #342 buzzsawmonkey

"NO WE CAN'T!" --BHO

My thoughts on this matter...

348 UFO TOFU  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:43:42pm

re: #340 jcm
It's California, it's probably a done deal.

349 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:44:14pm

re: #346 Mich-again

And theres always, "Send in the Clowns"

Think we can make a broadway musical of it?

350 infidel Alan  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:44:23pm

Four of my relatives are talking about going to South Africa with a youth orchestra on tour next summer. I've been telling them it is a bad idea.

351 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:44:51pm

re: #348 UFO TOFU

It's California, it's probably a done deal.

The backlash was pretty substantial. It's been shelved..... for now.

352 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:45:09pm

I keep my thermostat on 65 in the winter and 72 in the summer, but those are MY choices. In a free market, I can choose what I'm willing to pay.

Goodness, I wish Hillary would pull off the nomination.

353 UFO TOFU  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:47:23pm

re: #351 jcm
It's getting pretty hot here already. Rolling blackouts will have the politicans springing into action.

354 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:50:02pm

re: #353 UFO TOFU

It's getting pretty hot here already. Rolling blackouts will have the politicans springing into action.

The energy reform plan in CA worked out really well didn't it?
/

Yep then same bunch who got you into the fix will get you out.

Hope you've got a good hold on your wallet.

355 sngnsgt  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:50:45pm

re: #340 jcm

I don't remember it, but it sounds like the same s*!?, different day.

356 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:51:30pm

re: #352 goddessoftheclassroom

I keep my thermostat on 65 in the winter and 72 in the summer, but those are MY choices. In a free market, I can choose what I'm willing to pay.

Goodness, I wish Hillary would pull off the nomination.

Tsk, tsk, think how much easier our live would be if we didn't have to think about the little things like where the thermostat is set.

BHO will take care of everything, relax.
/

357 Conspirator  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:51:32pm

re: #352 goddessoftheclassroom

I keep my thermostat on 65 in the winter and 72 in the summer, but those are MY choices. In a free market, I can choose what I'm willing to pay.

Goodness, I wish Hillary would pull off the nomination.

So do I. Even she scares me less than Obama. At least she's not friends with an unrepentant terrorist, and didn't go to Wright's church for 20 years, listening to his lunacy.

358 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:51:33pm

Interesting thoughts....
Sam Harris - Stem Cells and Morality

359 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:52:45pm

re: #355 sngnsgt

I don't remember it, but it sounds like the same s*!?, different day.

Hey, we're all too fookin' stupid to know this stuff. Let them handle it for us.
Utopia!
///

360 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:54:13pm
361 Mich-again  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:54:19pm

California needs more power plants. And since the locals won't allow any to be built I recommend a ship with a nuclear reactor anchored just off the coast with HV cables tethered to land. OK, so its not in your backyard. Kwitcherbitchin.

362 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:56:05pm

re: #361 Mich-again

California needs more power plants. And since the locals won't allow any to be built I recommend a ship with a nuclear reactor anchored just off the coast with HV cables tethered to land. OK, so its not in your backyard. Kwitcherbitchin.

Hell, even the founder of Greenpeace is now pro nuclear.

363 Mich-again  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:58:32pm

re: #362 jcm

Anybody taking a realistic view of our country’s energy requirements knows nuclear has to be a big part of the global warming equation,” Moore said. “These environmental groups are not doing that.”

Moore’s critiques of the Sierra Club and Friends of the Earth have not been well-received. He’s been called a traitor, a prostitute, and has even been branded the “eco Judas” by former colleagues.

Another anti-idiotarian is hatched. Always a good sign.

364 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:58:45pm
365 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:00:12pm

re: #364 song_and_dance_man

Hey SaDM, how ya' been?

366 UFO TOFU  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:00:31pm

re: #362 jcm
Wasn't the guy that wrote The Skeptical Environmentalist originally part of Greenpeace?

367 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:01:32pm
368 UFO TOFU  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:01:34pm

re: #364 song_and_dance_man
I have the video of one with Johnson. Would love to see that live.

369 Maximu§  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:02:05pm

re: #352 goddessoftheclassroom

I keep my thermostat on 65 in the winter and 72 in the summer, but those are MY choices. In a free market, I can choose what I'm willing to pay.

Goodness, I wish Hillary would pull off the nomination.

I'm an engineer and the desired indoor Human comfort temperature is 75 F. You can bet the Obama's thermostat never goes above 72 F.

370 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:02:08pm

re: #362 jcm

Hell, even the founder of Greenpeace is now pro nuclear.

Patrick Moore broke away from Greenpeace, which he founded, when it became obvious that it was completely overrun by anti-capitalist wackos and science was no longer a serious consideration in their actions. His new group is Greenspirit, and the Greenspirit website is worth a read.

371 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:02:59pm
372 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:03:13pm

re: #366 UFO TOFU

Wasn't the guy that wrote The Skeptical Environmentalist originally part of Greenpeace?

I think so, I know he was pretty deep into and start asking questions.

373 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:03:16pm
374 gop_patriot  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:03:21pm

Indiana Man Operates Oil Well in Backyard, Producing Three Barrels of Crude a Day


"It's a money maker. It is paying off," Losh told FOX.

The oil is stored in a tank and transported to Ohio for sale, he said. His oil well also produces natural gas to heat his home and several others.

375 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:03:24pm

re: #369 Maximu§

I'm an engineer and the desired indoor Human comfort temperature is 75 F. You can bet the Obama's thermostat never goes above 72 F.

I can take chilly, but I HATE being hot!

376 Tigger2005  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:03:33pm

Anyone hear about Sen. Robert Byrd's endorsement of Obama? Yyeeeecccchhhhh. Vomit-inducing.

He will happily sell his country down the river to assuage his white guilt.

377 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:04:26pm
378 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:05:13pm

re: #375 goddessoftheclassroom

I'm with you on that goddess. Bring on the Ice Age!

/Oops, maybe that's a little bit too much cold.

379 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:05:15pm

re: #331 yochanan

S. A. is only 10 years behind zimbawa i suspect many will look back on apartied a little more kindly in the future, of course apartied was racist and undemocratic but they did believe in a rule of law which they don't seem to have now.

It will get worse. With Zuma lined up as the next pres of SA, Mandela, at 90yrs, cant last forever. Even tho Mandela is no-longer a political force his influence is still there. When he "goes" we may see some real fire works in SA, in the same vein as Zimbabwe.

380 Tigger2005  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:05:16pm

re: #375 goddessoftheclassroom

I can take chilly, but I HATE being hot!

I'm the opposite. I hate being cold.

381 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:05:40pm
382 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:06:21pm

re: #371 ploome hineni


There you go, get me John Howard on the Phone. Oh, he's gone. Bugger.

383 gop_patriot  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:06:30pm

Probably already been posted somewhere, but still, amazing and scary photos. May God bless and keep our military men and women!

Photos Show Marine's Narrow Escape From Death in Afghanistan

384 Intrepid  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:07:06pm

re: #190 godfrey

Stinky Beaumont sounds like a flatpicking champion from Kansas.

First time I saw the name "Stinky Beaumont" it reminded me of all my first grade classmates - I remember them all by the full name, never just their first name. I think we had a "Stinky" in our class....

385 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:07:35pm

re: #380 Tigger2005

I'm the opposite. I hate being cold.

My mom and sister-in-law are like you. My kids run around the house all winter in shorts and t-shirts!

Actually. as long as it's not too humid, I can get by with a fan at night.

386 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:08:21pm

re: #383 gop_patriot

wow.

387 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:08:35pm

re: #370 CyanSnowHawk

Patrick Moore broke away from Greenpeace, which he founded, when it became obvious that it was completely overrun by anti-capitalist wackos and science was no longer a serious consideration in their actions. His new group is Greenspirit, and the Greenspirit website is worth a read.

I'm all for science based, logical and reasoned proper stewardship of our resources.

I think the thing that tick me off most about the current crop of "greenies" isn't the control the want over me. It that the want to relegate third world countries to substance levels. Imbued with the "noble savage" myth that somehow they think that it's a good thing to keep people on the brink catastrophe all the time.

388 LeePro  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:08:37pm

re: #347 gop_patriot

My thoughts on this matter...

WTG, gop! ! !

389 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:09:28pm
390 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:09:29pm

re: #384 Intrepid

First time I saw the name "Stinky Beaumont" it reminded me of all my first grade classmates - I remember them all by the full name, never just their first name. I think we had a "Stinky" in our class....


We ALL had a "stinky" in our classroom.

391 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:09:47pm

re: #367 song_and_dance_man

Doing good and enjoying my Saturday. Mu son graduated from 8th grade today.

Congratulation to you and he both!

Took the kids to a local lake beach on Sunday. Great fun.

392 Maximu§  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:09:53pm

re: #377 ploome hineni

I keep my summer temp at 78

Same here, 78 F is perfect.

Who the Hell does Obama think he is? Should we sit and swelter in a hut, with hunger pangs shooting through our guts to make him and the 3rd world happy?

393 sngnsgt  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:10:42pm

re: #380 Tigger2005
Ditto, give me 100 degrees plus all day long, as long as it's not humid, I love it!
/worked outside in Vegas for 10 years

394 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:10:51pm
395 gop_patriot  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:13:09pm

re: #386 Killgore Trout

Did you click on the whole series of photos? Unreal.

/does anyone know what type of gun that is? It's huge!

396 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:13:10pm

re: #394 song_and_dance_man

I'm hot where ever I go;-?

I'm So Hot!

*ducks and runs*

397 DesertSage  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:13:37pm

If it gets over 80° I'm miserable.

398 Ojoe  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:13:46pm

Obama is a tiny candidate

399 gop_patriot  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:14:24pm

re: #388 LeePro

LOL! I was so irritated that I made a typo, which I only noticed when linking it above. :p

/how are you doing?

400 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:15:43pm
401 Render  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:17:21pm

re: #383 gop_patriot

That's a man's US Marine right there. Jumped into the firing line without his helmet and armor.

The pix don't show it, but I'll bet that once that Marine finished cataloging all his body parts as being present and accounted for, he stepped right back into the line.

PULLERS
MEN,
R

402 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:18:10pm

re: #375 goddessoftheclassroom

I can take chilly, but I HATE being hot!

I'm the opposite. I can always take off extra clothes but, bundling up restricts movement.

403 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:18:20pm

re: #395 gop_patriot

Did you click on the whole series of photos? Unreal.

/does anyone know what type of gun that is? It's huge!

Looks like an M-16 with a few accessories hanging off of it.

405 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:18:28pm

Oh, lordy. What did I just say?

406 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:19:15pm

re: #395 gop_patriot

Did you click on the whole series of photos? Unreal.

/does anyone know what type of gun that is? It's huge!

Looks like the M16A2 with a a quad rail barrel shroud, scope and extra grip.

407 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:19:22pm
408 Ojoe  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:19:23pm

re: #405 MandyManners

Don't worry, this is a comedy site.

409 madisonsfriend  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:19:40pm

I avoid a lot of the campaign news- because really, do I need to know that someone's advisor is a scumbag- isn't that the definition of a campaign advisor? However, I skimmed an article today about people Hillary worked with when she was a young lawyer who said that she should have watched her mouth when she accused Obama of consorting with radicals. It seems the law firm defended Black panthers, the american communist party and similar quiet,conservative types and that Hillary knew what she was doing then. But this can't be new info, can it?

410 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:20:16pm

re: #400 song_and_dance_man

I haven't heard that in a long time and never want to hear it again.

Sorry, my evil twin hopped on line there for a moment.

411 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:20:41pm

re: #405 MandyManners

Oh, lordy. What did I just say?

Saved for eternity ;-P

412 sngnsgt  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:20:47pm
"We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK."

Yes I will Barry, in fact, I keep my thermostat lower than 72 in the summer and higher than 72 in the winter. I'm going to do these things for 1 reason: Because I can. I'm the one that brings the bread home, I'll spend it any way I want to.

413 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:20:57pm

re: #408 Ojoe

Don't worry, this is a comedy site.

I swear sometimes my brain-to-finger filter doesn't function.

414 Ojoe  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:21:32pm

re: #413 MandyManners

fortunately for us!

415 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:21:33pm

re: #405 MandyManners

Oh, lordy. What did I just say?

I believe it went something like this.

...I can always take off extra clothes...

416 gop_patriot  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:21:52pm

re: #401 Render

That's a man's US Marine right there. Jumped into the firing line without his helmet and armor.

The pix don't show it, but I'll bet that once that Marine finished cataloging all his body parts as being present and accounted for, he stepped right back into the line.

PULLERS
MEN,
R

Well, if I was younger, and you know, single, I'd find that guy and marry him.

417 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:22:04pm

re: #411 jcm

Saved for eternity ;-P

I'll will it to The Kid.

418 LeePro  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:22:10pm

re: #391 jcm

Congratulation to you and he both!

Took the kids to a local lake beach on Sunday. Great fun.

Congratulations to... he... ?

Arrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhh! ! !

419 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:22:30pm

re: #414 Ojoe

fortunately for us!

Glad to amuse.

420 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:22:36pm

re: #404 Ojoe

We can't eat as much as we want? WTF? I have kids, I'll feed them thank you very much Mr. Obama.

*spit*

He trotted out the old commie attack line, "6% of the worlds population consume 25% of the resources."

421 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:23:05pm

re: #415 CyanSnowHawk

I believe it went something like this.

...I can always take off extra clothes...

Yeah, well, at least I put that caveat in there.

422 gop_patriot  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:23:15pm

re: #403 CyanSnowHawk

re: #406 jcm

Thanks!

423 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:23:50pm

Supernatural Graffiti....
Amazing face of Jesus

An amazing face of a praying jesus appears in two knots on the back of a cabinet

Miraculous!

424 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:24:04pm

re: #418 LeePro

Congratulations to... he... ?

Arrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhh! ! !

sorry
I'll take Mandy's excuse, brain to finger filter not working.

425 Ojoe  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:24:19pm

Gotta get back to work so we can eat as much as we want.

BBL

426 gop_patriot  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:24:31pm

re: #405 MandyManners

LOL!

427 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:24:53pm

re: #397 DesertSage

If it gets over 80° I'm miserable.

I am currently enjoying the just over 100° temp with 11% humidity. Could be worse, certainly will be by June/July. The thing that is really awful is that the air quality is for shit here during the summer months.

/and no, I am NOT "currently enjoying" this weather

428 stevieray  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:25:01pm

re: #354 jcm

The energy reform plan in CA worked out really well didn't it?
/

Yep then same bunch who got you into the fix will get you out.

Hope you've got a good hold on your wallet.

Here's a good summary of California's energy problems from City Journal:

California's Potemkin Environmentalism

429 Render  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:25:07pm

re: #406 jcm

M-16A4.

The A2 version has a full auto-capability that's rough on optics.

THREE
ROUND
BURST,
R

430 LeePro  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:25:10pm

re: #399 gop_patriot

LOL! I was so irritated that I made a typo, which I only noticed when linking it above. :p

/how are you doing?

Good, but can't stay long.

...dinner and all.

431 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:25:10pm

re: #404 Ojoe

We can't eat as much as we want? WTF? I have kids, I'll feed them thank you very much Mr. Obama.

*spit*

Seriously, how much exposure is this getting off the Internet?

432 WhiteRasta  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:25:13pm

re: #387 jcm

You raise an interesting point.

I have always thought that Greenpeace and similar organizations were inherently racist.

433 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:25:29pm

re: #431 MandyManners

Seriously, how much exposure is this getting off the Internet?

Anyone?

434 debutaunt  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:25:44pm

re: #418 LeePro

Congratulations to... he... ?

Arrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhh! ! !

Darned prepositions.

435 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:25:45pm

re: #423 Killgore Trout

Supernatural Graffiti....
Amazing face of Jesus


Miraculous!

Aliens left a monument on Mars to.

436 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:27:06pm
437 debutaunt  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:27:16pm

re: #420 jcm

He trotted out the old commie attack line, "6% of the worlds population consume 25% of the resources."

Algore and mmoore consume the vast majority of_________.

438 Scoreboard44  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:28:27pm

Hey dudes.

439 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:29:17pm

re: #435 jcm

Why doesn't anyone claim that's JC? It's a better likeness than the kitchen cabinet.

440 Tigger2005  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:30:06pm

Does Obama really think our eating less is going to keep anyone from starving? Does he really think we're taking food out of other people's mouths? "Hands off, poor person! That rice is mine!"

The world can produce more than enough food to meet the demand. You just have to let the free market DO it.

More people are starving because of biofuels than because of overeating Americans.

BTW Barry, I'm speaking as a 42 year old guy who drinks SlimFast twice a day and lost 30 lbs in the last three months.

441 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:30:45pm

re: #432 WhiteRasta

You raise an interesting point.

I have always thought that Greenpeace and similar organizations were inherently racist.

If you look at Kyoto and other "plans" they require the 3rd world to jump straight to next gen energy technologies. They can't use their own fossil resources to boot strap themselves up.

It's very classist which is functionally racist, we've got ours, to save the planet you can't get yours.

442 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:31:28pm

re: #439 Killgore Trout

Why doesn't anyone claim that's JC? It's a better likeness than the kitchen cabinet.

He came to save the world not Mars.
;-P

443 sngnsgt  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:31:37pm
"Can't I just eat as much waffle as I want to Sweetie'?"

Barry Obama

444 Scoreboard44  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:32:33pm

I eat nine grain bread.

Maybe I should not be so greedy and maybe eat like...seven or five grain bread.

445 LeePro  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:33:23pm

re: #404 Ojoe

We can't eat as much as we want? WTF? I have kids, I'll feed them thank you very much Mr. Obama.

*spit*

During a rally in Roseburg, Oregon, this past Saturday, Barack Obama proclaimed: "We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK."

Excuse me?!?!?!?!

I don't really give a flying fuck what other countries think!
And to compound what he just said, he added...

That's not leadership. ...

Excuse me2 ...?
Leadership is contingent on what other countries think?!?!?!

446 mich-again  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:33:37pm

The Democratic Reactor is approaching critical mass..

LA Times Blog: Geraldine Ferraro, calling Barack Obama "sexist," may not back him The commenters are getting awfully testy with each other.

Geraldine Ferraro is really making herself popular. She is part of the failed, pathetic, spineless, gravy-sucking Democratic Party of yesteryear.

and this one..

If ALL Hillary Clinton supporters WRITE HER IN, and there WILL BE A MASSIVE MOVEMENT to do this, SHE WILL OBLITERATE BOTH McCain and Obama.

This is the HRC supporters' NUCLEAR OPTION, and it will work, because most of us will ignore any attempt of Hillary's to rally us behind Obama WHEN ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS WRITE HER IN TO WIN.

447 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:33:41pm
448 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:33:43pm
449 nyc redneck  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:33:45pm

re: #289 Cognito

From the Dept. of Heinous Acts:

People in South Africa have a new hobby: Burning foreigners alive.

Rocks and fire. Nice.

i have a friend from cape town. he has talked abt. certain warring factions filling a car tire w/ gas, putting it around an enemies neck and then lighting it. they call it giving somebody a necklace.
pretty gruesome. i'd ask for a string or pearls, please.

450 Scoreboard44  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:33:47pm

Scoreboard 44 on post 444

Maybe I should eat four grain bread.

Save some for the other peeps.

451 WhiteRasta  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:34:52pm

re: #441 jcm

Exactly!

No one calls them on their racist card..

Let the Black People suffer malaria as long as we don't use DDT, etc.

No GM corn for Black People. etc, etc.

452 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:35:34pm
453 reine.de.tout  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:35:54pm

re: #369 Maximu§

I'm an engineer and the desired indoor Human comfort temperature is 75 F. You can bet the Obama's thermostat never goes above 72 F.

OOH, I'm in deep DouDou then - my summertime thermostat setting is 65 - but then, my wintertime thermostat setting is also 65, so maybe it all works out.

454 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:35:54pm
455 gop_patriot  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:36:02pm

re: #445 LeePro

Leadership is contingent on what other countries think?!?!?!

It boggles the mind.

456 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:36:23pm

re: #440 Tigger2005

Does Obama really think our eating less is going to keep anyone from starving? Does he really think we're taking food out of other people's mouths? "Hands off, poor person! That rice is mine!"

The world can produce more than enough food to meet the demand. You just have to let the free market DO it.

More people are starving because of biofuels than because of overeating Americans.

BTW Barry, I'm speaking as a 42 year old guy who drinks SlimFast twice a day and lost 30 lbs in the last three months.

Lack of food is almost universal a problem of government instability, not having the means to protect citizens property from planting to harvest. Or government induced famines, destroyed crops, denial of water etc... Zimbabwe is the current example, a net exporter is now in tough shape.

The old Soviet Union regularly had export quantity harvests. The crop would rot in the fields or transfer points for lack of labor and equipment. Resulting in shortage at the consumer level.

457 nyc redneck  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:36:57pm

re: #404 Ojoe

We can't eat as much as we want? WTF? I have kids, I'll feed them thank you very much Mr. Obama.

*spit*

lots of americans are over weight and happy to continue eating. i think this just lost osama the election.

458 WhiteRasta  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:37:08pm

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