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Mon, May 19, 2008 at 1:56:50 pm PDT

A journey of a thousand miles begins with an open thread...

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1 Honorary Yooper  Mon, May 19, 2008 1:58:01pm

I think this is the first open thread of the day, IIRC?

2 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 1:58:19pm

twwwiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllllll

3 Creeping Eruption  Mon, May 19, 2008 1:58:29pm

re: #1 Honorary Yooper

I think this is the first open thread of the day, IIRC?

"First?"

4 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 1:58:36pm

re: #1 Honorary Yooper

oooooooooooooooohhhhhhhh

5 joncelli  Mon, May 19, 2008 1:58:54pm

Ah, wide open threadiness. Beats working.

6 Creeping Eruption  Mon, May 19, 2008 1:59:12pm

re: #5 joncelli

Ah, wide open threadiness. Beats working.

Tell me about it.

7 alegrias  Mon, May 19, 2008 1:59:38pm

Thank you Charles for the change of scenery. That previous thread was hellish and unbecoming even by people who will stoop at nothing.

8 bosforus  Mon, May 19, 2008 1:59:49pm

re: #5 joncelli

Ah, wide open threadiness. Beats working.

Few things don't.

9 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 19, 2008 1:59:59pm

Good morning, a lovely Tuesday and the Finance man is coming down for a visit, so we are skiving off and taking him out for a deer hunt. I mean, what better way to enjoy a work day.

10 alegrias  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:00:29pm

re: #7 alegrias

Thank you Charles for the change of scenery. That previous thread was hellish and unbecoming even by people who will stoop at nothing.

* * *
(I meant the "art" work of feverish minds)

11 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:00:48pm

re: #9 A Kiwi Infidel

Good morning, a lovely Tuesday and the Finance man is coming down for a visit, so we are skiving off and taking him out for a deer hunt. I mean, what better way to enjoy a work day.

How does one "skiv off"?

12 Honorary Yooper  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:01:16pm

re: #5 joncelli

Ah, wide open threadiness. Beats working.

That it does. :-)

13 galloping granny  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:01:23pm

Obama's speech about Michelle is on Fox right now.

14 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:02:02pm

re: #11 MandyManners


Pronounced "sky-ve" and means to sneak off without telling the telephonist.

15 Honorary Yooper  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:02:08pm

re: #13 galloping granny

Obama's speech about Michelle is on Fox right now.

Will they have some brie for Obama to go with his whine?

16 alegrias  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:02:29pm

Three cheers for the American family farm--my hat is off to these hard-working people who feed half the world with efficiency & integrity. (Spent a working weekend doing manual labor with a shovel and have only good things to say to those who feed us fatty-Americans.)

17 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:03:44pm

I have been reading some stuff which borders on "conspiracy theory" but I would be interested to know if you peoples have coloured disks on your letter boxes?

18 looking closely  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:03:51pm

re: #16 alegrias

Three cheers for the American family farm--my hat is off to these hard-working people who feed half the world with efficiency & integrity. (Spent a working weekend doing manual labor with a shovel and have only good things to say to those who feed us fatty-Americans.)

Just don't drive an SUV or have your thermostat set to 72, because the rest of the world that's being fed might not like it.

19 Chingachgook  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:03:56pm

Is Obama's 57 state comment news to only me? I'm not seeing much on this?!

20 Ojoe  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:04:20pm
21 Diamond Bullet  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:04:29pm

Although I have serious problems with the guy, I have to profess admiration for the way McCain has been dribbling Obama up and down the court the last couple of days. Obama talks a big game about bipartisanship, but if you poke him he starts spitting acid just like every other loony leftist politician. McCain spent years in a freaking Vietnamese torture camp, I don't think Obama exactly frightens him. It's going to be fun watching McCain abuse him while Obama clings to a giant waffle and begs everyone to switch the subject back to generalized "change".

Honest to god, the Democrats make fun of McCain's age and "senility" - but if Obama can't handle one ornery Vietnam war vet, how is he going to handle Iran?

22 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:04:37pm

re: #15 Honorary Yooper

Will they have some brie for Obama to go with his whine?


Nope, some stinky old english stilton.

23 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:04:42pm

re: #14 A Kiwi Infidel

Pronounced "sky-ve" and means to sneak off without telling the telephonist.

Thank you.

Now, what's a telephonist?

24 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:05:28pm

re: #19 Chingachgook

Is Obama's 57 state comment news to only me? I'm not seeing much on this?!

We kicked it around last week.

25 galloping granny  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:06:02pm

Obama's spokeman on Fox just called Libya's government "an administration" - then quickly changed it to "regime."

26 Ojoe  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:06:24pm

re: #19 Chingachgook

The organization of islamic states has 57 states.

27 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:06:26pm

re: #24 MandyManners

We kicked it around last week.

So we won't have Dick Nixon Obama's 57 states to kick around any more?

28 joncelli  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:06:51pm

re: #23 MandyManners

If I'm reading this correctly, I think Kiwi is saying she blew off the rest of the day and didn't bother to tell the receptionist. Which sounds great, since it's nice and cool and breezy today here.

29 eschew_obfuscation  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:07:21pm

re: #17 A Kiwi Infidel

I have been reading some stuff which borders on "conspiracy theory" but I would be interested to know if you peoples have coloured disks on your letter boxes?


I think you're referring to what we call 'mail boxes' (where postal mail is delivered in suburbia). There are also Post Office Boxes.....where postal mail is delivered to patrons at the post office.

As far as I know, none have colored disks on them.....

30 Honorary Yooper  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:07:32pm

re: #17 A Kiwi Infidel

I have been reading some stuff which borders on "conspiracy theory" but I would be interested to know if you peoples have coloured disks on your letter boxes?

Colored disks on what letter boxes? Mailboxes? If so, no. Mine's on the house.

31 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:07:36pm

re: #17 A Kiwi Infidel

No? Or, at least, I haven't noticed?

32 HBob  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:07:45pm

31 - That's Numberwang!

33 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:07:52pm

re: #23 MandyManners


Since we dont employ one, I have no idea.

34 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:07:57pm

re: #21 Diamond Bullet

Although I have serious problems with the guy, I have to profess admiration for the way McCain has been dribbling Obama up and down the court the last couple of days. Obama talks a big game about bipartisanship, but if you poke him he starts spitting acid just like every other loony leftist politician. McCain spent years in a freaking Vietnamese torture camp, I don't think Obama exactly frightens him. It's going to be fun watching McCain abuse him while Obama clings to a giant waffle and begs everyone to switch the subject back to generalized "change".

Honest to god, the Democrats make fun of McCain's age and "senility" - but if Obama can't handle one ornery Vietnam war vet, how is he going to handle Iran?

35 Killian Bundy  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:08:05pm

Extra Extra!

/read all about it (five jaw dropping links)

36 joncelli  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:08:21pm

re: #28 joncelli

"Here" being Pennsylvania, of course, so it doesn't really follow from Kiwi's situation, which is, you know, in NZ. (I REALLY need a decent night's sleep.)

37 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:08:24pm

re: #27 Occasional Reader

So we won't have Dick Nixon Obama's 57 states to kick around any more?

Oh, we'll never give it up!

38 offendi  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:08:38pm

Lunch With a Liberal - True Story

College friend. Obama supporter.

Friend: " You know, Obama reminds me of John F. Kennedy".
Me: " I agree. "
Friend: " Oh, so you are voting for Obama? "
Me: " No. "
Friend: " Why not?"
Me: " Well, Kennedy's inexperience got us into the Bay of Pigs. He also brought the country closest in it's history to a nuclear war with the Soviet Union, also based on his inexperience and Kruschev's sense he could be taken advantage of. "
Friend: " Well, Obama will have good advisors. "
Me: "Well, so did Kennedy. "

After that we spoke about family and the weather.

39 HBob  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:08:43pm

re: #26 Ojoe

The organization of islamic states has 57 states.

Plus two more!

40 Creeping Eruption  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:08:45pm

re: #17 A Kiwi Infidel

I have been reading some stuff which borders on "conspiracy theory" but I would be interested to know if you peoples have coloured disks on your letter boxes?

/No - just chalk lines and x's occasionally show up unexpectedly.

41 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:09:09pm

re: #28 joncelli

If I'm reading this correctly, I think Kiwi is saying she blew off the rest of the day and didn't bother to tell the receptionist. Which sounds great, since it's nice and cool and breezy today here.

Thank you! That makes sense. It's been a while since I read Ngaio Marsh.

42 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:09:11pm
43 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:09:16pm

re: #30 Honorary Yooper


Mailbox or disk?

44 Honorary Yooper  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:09:58pm

re: #43 A Kiwi Infidel

Mailbox or disk?

Mailbox. There's no colored disks on it.

45 Ward Cleaver  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:09:59pm

re: #2 MandyManners

twwwiiiiiiirrrrrrllllllllllllllllllllll

Wow, that was awesome.

46 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:10:02pm

re: #35 Killian Bundy

I saw no links, just a great picture of a cat.

47 galloping granny  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:10:18pm

re: #17 A Kiwi Infidel

I have been reading some stuff which borders on "conspiracy theory" but I would be interested to know if you peoples have coloured disks on your letter boxes?

Nope. Some have small locks and single boxes have little flags you pop up if you want the mail man to stick up, but the post box design is pretty standard - dictated by the Post Office.

48 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:10:24pm

re: #38 offendi

Lunch With a Liberal - True Story

College friend. Obama supporter.

Friend: " You know, Obama reminds me of John F. Kennedy".
Me: " I agree. "
Friend: " Oh, so you are voting for Obama? "
Me: " No. "
Friend: " Why not?"
Me: " Well, Kennedy's inexperience got us into the Bay of Pigs. He also brought the country closest in it's history to a nuclear war with the Soviet Union, also based on his inexperience and Kruschev's sense he could be taken advantage of. "
Friend: " Well, Obama will have good advisors. "
Me: "Well, so did Kennedy. "

After that we spoke about family and the weather.

I congratulate you for not deploying your salad fork.

49 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:10:54pm

re: #40 Creeping Eruption

/No - just chalk lines and x's occasionally show up unexpectedly.

And, those bar codes on the back of highway signs.

50 joncelli  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:11:06pm

re: #43 A Kiwi Infidel

Disk...sometimes people who have mailboxes close to the road put reflectors on the boxes so people don't accidentally clean the boxes out at night -- could that be what you mean?

51 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:11:22pm

re: #45 Ward Cleaver

Wow, that was awesome.

Tanks. It makes me dizzy.

52 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:11:25pm

re: #17 A Kiwi Infidel

I have been reading some stuff which borders on "conspiracy theory" but I would be interested to know if you peoples have coloured disks on your letter boxes?

Well, sure, I installed them there as signals to let the UN troops know which of my neighbors own firearms for them to confiscate.

So?

53 Honorary Yooper  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:11:46pm

re: #47 galloping granny

Nope. Some have small locks and single boxes have little flags you pop up if you want the mail man to stick up, but the post box design is pretty standard - dictated by the Post Office.

Only the ones on the street have those flags though. Since mine is on the house, I have no flag for it.

Then there are mailslots that some people have in their doors.

54 alegrias  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:11:47pm

re: #18 looking closely

Just don't drive an SUV or have your thermostat set to 72, because the rest of the world that's being fed might not like it.

* * *
Having survived the Carter years, and being a conservative, I actually don't like to overheat or over air condition my environment! This year I didn't even turn on the heat, though we've had cold days in the DC Metro area. My wool sweater collection is awesome!

And I prefer to walk when I can.

55 galloping granny  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:11:50pm

re: #50 joncelli

Disk...sometimes people who have mailboxes close to the road put reflectors on the boxes so people don't accidentally clean the boxes out at night -- could that be what you mean?

I think by cleaning them out what you mean is drive into them - as the town plow did to ours this winter.

56 WayDownSouthInBama  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:12:06pm

I'm going to ignore for a minute that Barimmy Obarter,in the space of only a few hours, called Iran "tiny" and didn't pose a "serious threat". :

"Iran, Cuba, Venezuela - these countries are tiny compared to the Soviet Union. They don't pose a serious threat to us the way the Soviet Union posed a threat to us.

and then turned around and called Iran a "grave threat":

"Let me be absolutely clear: Iran is a grave threat."

I also found something else,in the same article,that I found hypocritical to the max:

If McCain is elected, Obama said, "We'll keep talking tough in Washington, while countries like Iran ignore our tough talk."

Wait a @#$% minute there Barimmy,isn't TALKING TOUGH the very policy you have been promoting as your foreign policy all along? Haven't those of us who remain sane,and remember the Jimmy Carter Appeasement Tour,been saying that tough talk don't mean $#!t to a terrorist? Now for the money question:

Why do you support TOUGH TALK as your own foreign policy and then condemn others for the same policy? If it will be a failure for McCain,how will doing the same thing be a success for you?

[Link: apnews.myway.com...]

57 David IV of Georgia  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:12:09pm

re: #22 A Kiwi Infidel

Nope, some stinky old english stilton.

Stilton is far too good for him.

Try really stale, really cheap generic macaroni and cheese. The kind were the cheese reminds one of orange-yellow water....

58 loppyd  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:12:44pm

re: #38 offendi

Lunch With a Liberal - True Story

College friend. Obama supporter.

Friend: " You know, Obama reminds me of John F. Kennedy".
Me: " I agree. "
Friend: " Oh, so you are voting for Obama? "
Me: " No. "
Friend: " Why not?"
Me: " Well, Kennedy's inexperience got us into the Bay of Pigs. He also brought the country closest in it's history to a nuclear war with the Soviet Union, also based on his inexperience and Kruschev's sense he could be taken advantage of. "
Friend: " Well, Obama will have good advisors. "
Me: "Well, so did Kennedy. "

After that we spoke about family and the weather.

Will be forced into some mandatory family fun with the BF's family this weekend and I will be doing a lot of tongue biting.

The good news is the BF is on the right team....much to his moonbat father's chagrin.

BWAAAHAHAHAHA.

59 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:12:47pm

re: #50 joncelli

Disk...sometimes people who have mailboxes close to the road put reflectors on the boxes so people don't accidentally clean the boxes out at night -- could that be what you mean?

Deep in the heart of Appalachia, those reflective disks just help Bubba and his buddies aim better with either their shotguns or their baseball bats.

60 alegrias  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:12:48pm

re: #25 galloping granny

Obama's spokeman on Fox just called Libya's government "an administration" - then quickly changed it to "regime."

* * *
Totalitarians R us! What's not to talk about! Without preconditions.

61 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:12:52pm

re: #52 Occasional Reader


Thanks, all, for prompt replies, I will consign this referred material to the shredder, as conspiracy theory.

62 joncelli  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:13:10pm

re: #55 galloping granny

Yes, I mean slam into them. Neighbors lost a box that way.

63 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:13:43pm

I've been wondering something. When we were up in Sonoma for a wedding, it seemed to me that their "watch out for deer lepping merrily across the freeway" signs portrayed a rather rotund fellow, while Alameda, San Mateo and Santa Clara Counties used a buck with a nice, tucked little belly.

Has anyone else noted this variation anywhere else?

64 Honorary Yooper  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:14:08pm

re: #54 alegrias

Having survived the Carter years, and being a conservative, I actually don't like to overheat or over air condition my environment! This year I didn't even turn on the heat, though we've had cold days in the DC Metro area. My wool sweater collection is awesome!

And I prefer to walk when I can.

Lucky you then. It's far too cold in Chicago to avoid not turning on the heat. Well, you can leave it off, but your pipes'll freeze. I just keep it down near 62.

I just hope for a cooler summer where I can leave the AC off most of the time.

65 alegrias  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:14:12pm

re: #25 galloping granny

Obama's spokeman on Fox just called Libya's government "an administration" - then quickly changed it to "regime."

* * *
Kleptocracy would be more accurate.

66 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:14:25pm

re: #61 A Kiwi Infidel

Thanks, all, for prompt replies, I will consign this referred material to the shredder, as conspiracy theory.

Always happy to help. By the way... naturally, I've reported your post to UN Central Command. Black helicopters are being dispatched. Please stay by your computer.

67 galloping granny  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:14:37pm

re: #62 joncelli

Yes, I mean slam into them. Neighbors lost a box that way.

We were rather surprised to see ours ice skating down the road. We now have one big enough to put a small child into that is coal black and firmly attached to a 6x6 sunk in cement. I'll get one of those reflector disks on a whip before the plow comes around again.

68 Ojoe  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:14:42pm

re: #63 Dianna

Sometimes people put a red round reflector on the deer's nose. (Rudolph).

69 eschew_obfuscation  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:14:56pm

re: #61 A Kiwi Infidel

Thanks, all, for prompt replies, I will consign this referred material to the shredder, as conspiracy theory.


What was the conspiracy supposed to be?

70 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:14:59pm
71 nikis-knight  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:15:07pm

re: #54 alegrias

* * *
Having survived the Carter years, and being a conservative, I actually don't like to overheat or over air condition my environment! This year I didn't even turn on the heat, though we've had cold days in the DC Metro area. My wool sweater collection is awesome!

And I prefer to walk when I can.

well, doing things because they make sense for you is a far cry different from doing things because Obama wants to impress his friends in Davos with the lovely progressive (ie, coercive) laws he's signed.

72 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:15:33pm

re: #63 Dianna

When we were up in Sonoma for a wedding, it seemed to me that their "watch out for deer lepping merrily across the freeway" signs portrayed a rather rotund fellow, while Alameda, San Mateo and Santa Clara Counties used a buck with a nice, tucked little belly.

Either style of sign is okay with me, as long as they have the obligatory bullet holes in them.

73 alegrias  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:15:40pm

re: #38 offendi

Lunch With a Liberal - True Story

College friend. Obama supporter.

Friend: " You know, Obama reminds me of John F. Kennedy".
Me: " I agree. "
Friend: " Oh, so you are voting for Obama? "
Me: " No. "
Friend: " Why not?"
Me: " Well, Kennedy's inexperience got us into the Bay of Pigs. He also brought the country closest in it's history to a nuclear war with the Soviet Union, also based on his inexperience and Kruschev's sense he could be taken advantage of. "
Friend: " Well, Obama will have good advisors. "
Me: "Well, so did Kennedy. "

After that we spoke about family and the weather.


* * *

And Kennedy sent military advisors to VIETNAM.

74 Ojoe  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:15:50pm

re: #70 buzzsawmonkey

extra bad joke

75 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:16:08pm
76 galloping granny  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:16:24pm

re: #64 Honorary Yooper

Lucky you then. It's far too cold in Chicago to avoid not turning on the heat. Well, you can leave it off, but your pipes'll freeze. I just keep it down near 62.

I just hope for a cooler summer where I can leave the AC off most of the time.

I wouldn't give AC house room for a couple of reasons, not least of which is allergies. My dad keeps his car so air conditioned it is like riding in a nitrogen freezer. Then you get out of the car and 80 feels like 280. No thanks!

77 Pshawalaw  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:16:30pm

re: #21 Diamond Bullet

Obama also can't handle Fox News, surely he can't handle Ahmydinnerjacket if he can't take a few questions from Chris Wallace.

78 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:16:59pm

re: #68 Ojoe

I've seen that, and also little target circles just behind the shoulder.

79 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:17:03pm

re: #57 David IV of Georgia

Stilton is far too good for him.

Try really stale, really cheap generic macaroni and cheese. The kind were the cheese reminds one of orange-yellow water....

As young fellas we would practice our sniper skills on wild goats. The old billy goats really stank, like I mean a pong that could stop a bull elephant at 30 paces. I cannot eat goats cheese as there is alway a hint of this smell, even as you bring the cheese up to the mouth, you catch a hint of the smell, and then nearly throw up.........

80 DownRightMeanAmerican  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:17:09pm

Where did door to door solicitors get the idea that ringing my door bell rapidly 5 times and then immediately giving 12 or so forceful knocks on my hollow core thin skinned wood front door, would make me want to do anything else but kick the solicitor right between the legs rapidly 5 times then immediately give a dozen or so forceful knocks on their forehead.

Then I would loudly proclaim, “the lights are on, but nobody is home”, a**hole, and no I don’t want any.

Rant off.

81 loppyd  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:17:24pm

I hated wearing sweaters and having the heat on 68 when I was a kid and I sure as you-now-what am not going through that again just because Barry says so.

82 cygnus  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:17:45pm

re: #1 Honorary Yooper

I think this is the first open thread of the day, IIRC?

Hey! He said 'First'! :P

83 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:18:01pm

re: #63 Dianna

I've been wondering something. When we were up in Sonoma for a wedding, it seemed to me that their "watch out for deer lepping merrily across the freeway" signs portrayed a rather rotund fellow, while Alameda, San Mateo and Santa Clara Counties used a buck with a nice, tucked little belly.

Has anyone else noted this variation anywhere else?

Beats me. All I can tell you is that I was in my earl 30s before I figured out that the deer didn't know to cross where the sign was instead of the highway department knowing where the deer trails cross the road.

84 offendi  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:18:02pm

re: #48 MandyManners

I congratulate you for not deploying your salad fork.

Since it was sushi it would have been a chopstick.

85 Killian Bundy  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:18:20pm

re: #46 Dianna

I saw no links, just a great picture of a cat.

My bad.

/Obama hates cats

86 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:18:22pm

re: #72 Occasional Reader

Either style of sign is okay with me, as long as they have the obligatory bullet holes in them.

We must be kin.

87 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:18:49pm

re: #72 Occasional Reader

Last month, driving up 280, I saw a "watch out for deer lepping merrily" sign flattened, with a deer staring down at it.

88 offendi  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:19:02pm

re: #73 alegrias

Yes, responsible for the Vietnam War too!

89 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:19:11pm

re: #84 offendi

Since it was sushi it would have been a chopstick.

Bigger hole. Splinters, too.

90 bosforus  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:19:19pm

So, about that comment by Huckabee at the NRA on Friday. Anyone else grateful that the Obama camp spent so much time on the 'appeasement' issue that they didn't have the effort to stir up anything against Huckabee. I don't think anyone's talked about it since Friday.

91 loppyd  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:19:33pm

Time to head out and check out Inifdelia's handiwork at the local Whole Foods.

Have a good night, LN!

92 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:19:55pm

re: #87 Dianna

Last month, driving up 280, I saw a "watch out for deer lepping merrily" sign flattened, with a deer staring down at it.

Did it actually say "deer leeping merrily"? Wow. I gotta' get out to California some time.

93 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:19:56pm

re: #72 Occasional Reader

Either style of sign is okay with me, as long as they have the obligatory bullet holes in them.

No, you don't want to warn the deer that someone's hunting for them.

The moose signs near us have the moose standing there and looking at the car, like the car can be stopped by its gaze.

94 galloping granny  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:20:14pm

re: #81 loppyd

I hated wearing sweaters and having the heat on 68 when I was a kid and I sure as you-now-what am not going through that again just because Barry says so.

I don't mind keeping the thermostat on about 64. If we turn it much higher than that the bedrooms are so hot upstairs that it is nearly unbearable and we freeze out in the schoolroom anyway. So we keep the thermostat lowish and fill in with a space heater that costs very little to run. Nice compromise, since we have oil heat.

95 loppyd  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:20:33pm

re: #90 bosforus

So, about that comment by Huckabee at the NRA on Friday. Anyone else grateful that the Obama camp spent so much time on the 'appeasement' issue that they didn't have the effort to stir up anything against Huckabee. I don't think anyone's talked about it since Friday.

Tim Russert played it for Huckabee while he was on Meet the Press and Huckabee apologized.

Now I'm really gone.

Later, taters!

96 vagabond trader  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:20:46pm

Oh, this is rich. The Obama began wearing a flag pin again at the request of some veterans. LMAO!

97 Creeping Eruption  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:20:57pm

re: #80 DownRightMeanAmerican

Where did door to door solicitors get the idea that ringing my door bell rapidly 5 times and then immediately giving 12 or so forceful knocks on my hollow core thin skinned wood front door, would make me want to do anything else but kick the solicitor right between the legs rapidly 5 times then immediately give a dozen or so forceful knocks on their forehead.

Then I would loudly proclaim, “the lights are on, but nobody is home”, a**hole, and no I don’t want any.

Rant off.

Just open the door slowly and sweetly ask if he/she has ever seen Silence of the Lambs, then promptly invite them in for a glass of Chianti. You will probably finish your sentence to a rapidly retreating back.

98 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:21:06pm

Was it 40 Years Ago, Today?

In a previous thread, someone was talking about social programs that actually reduced freedom. Interesting quote "In 1965, Democrats held more than two-thirds of both chambers of Congress." I guess the more things change the more they stay the same.

99 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:21:24pm

re: #66 Occasional Reader

Always happy to help. By the way... naturally, I've reported your post to UN Central Command. Black helicopters are being dispatched. Please stay by your computer.


Well that would be nice. Our airforce certainly needs some new hardware. If you could get some assigned to NZ on a permanent basis, I think would be happier.

100 toomanysnax[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:21:25pm
101 loppyd  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:22:28pm

re: #94 galloping granny

I don't mind keeping the thermostat on about 64. If we turn it much higher than that the bedrooms are so hot upstairs that it is nearly unbearable and we freeze out in the schoolroom anyway. So we keep the thermostat lowish and fill in with a space heater that costs very little to run. Nice compromise, since we have oil heat.

I grew up in a house built in the late 1700's. It was freezing no matter where you went! LOL

Gone, baby gone.

BYE

102 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:22:39pm

re: #80 DownRightMeanAmerican

Where did door to door solicitors get the idea that ringing my door bell rapidly 5 times and then immediately giving 12 or so forceful knocks on my hollow core thin skinned wood front door, would make me want to do anything else but kick the solicitor right between the legs rapidly 5 times then immediately give a dozen or so forceful knocks on their forehead.

Then I would loudly proclaim, “the lights are on, but nobody is home”, a**hole, and no I don’t want any.

Rant off.

Well, if a salesman walked up our driveway, through the locked gate with the "Beware of the dog" sign and rang the bell, I think the barking would be enough to convince him to leave.
If he didn't, the sight of two dogs looking at him through the window might.

103 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:22:44pm

re: #83 MandyManners

The deer do seem to be in the habit of ignoring the signs, yes.

Not as badly, though, as the eagle I nearly hit in the Klamath River country. It came crashing down on the road in front of me, and I barely stopped in time.

104 Ackomanyuki  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:22:48pm

re: #17 A Kiwi Infidel

I have been reading some stuff which borders on "conspiracy theory" but I would be interested to know if you peoples have coloured disks on your letter boxes?

No, but twenty years ago I delivered communications equipment and mainframes to locations in abandoned mines in the Appalachian Mountains where the only directions I had after meeting a contact at a loading dock was a series of grossly rounded off distances and a list of color coded disks that marked each turn on the path to my destination.

105 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:23:00pm

re: #86 MandyManners

We must be kin.

That said, while I favor bullet holes in the signs, I could never bring myself to shoot a deer.

106 cygnus  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:23:05pm

re: #85 Killian Bundy

My bad.

/Obama hates cats

Now I know that I'll never vote for him. He's a liberal appeaser who hates cats. Loser.

107 vagabond trader  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:23:05pm

re: #100 toomanysnax

A bit on the self absorbed side isn't he?

108 The Other Les  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:23:05pm

This thought just occurred to me:

McCain: I've been through shit you people wouldn't believe.

Obama: Our peace loving socialist brothers would never...blah...blah...blah...

McCain: Told you so.

109 offendi  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:23:22pm

re: #58 loppyd

Why bite your tongue? A drink or two can certainly get things going.

BTW, my friend from college was an anarchist when we were going to school and loved the radical professors' courses the most. Logical progression to Obama supporter considering Ayers?

110 Empire1  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:23:36pm

I've got a question (or several) for those of you who have, or at least have seen. e-book readers. They're still awfully pricey for what you get, but I really like the idea of 200 books on an SD chip ... that would free up a lot of space here, and save quite a bit in hardback prices, even at discount. I'm currently leaning toward the HanLin eReader, since it handles the most formats, but I've not made a solid decision.

Do the available titles make it worth getting one at all? (I mostly read SF/Fantasy for fiction, and I think I'd do better to keep my references in paper editions.)

Are they as easy to use as the ads and folks at "Daily Pundit" claim?

Does e-paper really look like paper? I have a hard time reading back-lit material for really long things, but I can read real paper all day, so this is important.

More later, probably, as I get input here!

-- Ann

111 OldLineTexan  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:23:41pm

re: #88 offendi

Yes, responsible for the Vietnam War too!

Kennedy? Surely you jest.

112 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:23:55pm

re: #100 toomanysnax

"Half-breed"? WTF?

113 bosforus  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:24:03pm

re: #95 loppyd

Tim Russert played it for Huckabee while he was on Meet the Press and Huckabee apologized.

Now I'm really gone.

Later, taters!

Thanks for the update. But it still seems like it didn't pick up much traction, which is fine by me, since crying about Bush all weekend only brought more attention to Obama's ludicrous foreign policy stance. It was a win-win weekend, I suppose.

114 OldLineTexan  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:24:12pm

re: #105 Occasional Reader

That said, while I favor bullet holes in the signs, I could never bring myself to shoot a deer.

They are entirely too hard to eat while alive. That is what I have found.

115 cygnus  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:24:21pm

re: #87 Dianna

Last month, driving up 280, I saw a "watch out for deer lepping merrily" sign flattened, with a deer staring down at it.

That's a photo-worthy moment. Too bad you didn't have a camera.

116 galloping granny[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:24:23pm
117 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:24:25pm

re: #100 toomanysnax

I'm about half-way through O'Bama's first book. I'm past the part where he's tired of getting high and past the part where he goes to visit his favorite Communist "Frank" and at the part where he is learning about the Nation of Islam. This guy is creepier than any of the press make out. Have any of you lizards read this thing? Does it have a happy ending? Is there a point to all the words other than a half-breed trying to decide which racial team to play on? Wierd!

The happy ending will be when he loses the election by a landslide and retires to Iran, where his wife can be proud of wearing a bag.

118 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:24:31pm

re: #103 Dianna

The deer do seem to be in the habit of ignoring the signs, yes.

Not as badly, though, as the eagle I nearly hit in the Klamath River country. It came crashing down on the road in front of me, and I barely stopped in time.

Stupid animals encroaching on our civilization.

119 Killian Bundy  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:24:39pm

re: #106 cygnus

Now I know that I'll never vote for him. He's a liberal appeaser who hates cats. Loser.

And he doesn't have a dog.

/think about that

120 gop_patriot  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:24:43pm

re: #80 DownRightMeanAmerican

That's a hell of a visual. ROFLOL!

121 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:24:49pm

re: #87 Dianna

I saw a "watch out for deer lepping merrily" sign

Sounds like a LOLDEER sign.

I CAN HAZ LEPPING MERRILY?!

122 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:25:00pm

re: #92 MandyManners

No, that's my characterization. The deer silhouette is usually portrayed as if it is leaping, and (to my eye) the angle of the antlered head looks awfully cheerful to me. So I don't call it a "deer crossing" sign, but a deer lepping merrily sign.

123 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:25:11pm

re: #105 Occasional Reader

That said, while I favor bullet holes in the signs, I could never bring myself to shoot a deer.

I don't know if I could. Well, if that was my source of protein, I could.

124 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:25:26pm

Bruce Ramsey at the Seattle Times is still digging.

May 17, 2008 4:00 PM
"Appeasement," again
Posted by Bruce Ramsey
My previous post having inflamed a few hundred people, I'll try another tack. Forget the Munich conference. My point is really not about that anyway. It is about "appeasement" as a political label to prevent a conversation in the present.

I grew up facing the prospect of nuclear death from the Russians, and also the specter of world Communism. Well, we talked to the Russians. It didn't solve everything, but it did lead to a nuclear test ban, and a red telephone, and a few useful things. And finally, Communism went away.

I lived through the time when China was "Red China," and we didn't talk to it. Well, Richard Nixon opened the door. It was a good thing. It didn't settle everything with China, but it lowered tensions. The Chinese government, dictatorial as it was, was not totally unreasonable--and over the years it has become somewhat more reasonable. We have businesses there, and academics there, and tourists there, and thousands of Chinese students here. Talking to China, and trading with it, was a good idea.

It is said we can't talk to terrorists. Get beyond the "terrorist" label, which is another device for barring communication. You have to ask: do these people represent the political aspirations of a large group? if they do, you'd better talk to them, because they're not going away. Find out what they want. You don't have to knuckle under. But talk. Hear them out. Have them hear you out.

There is a whole Internet jeering section that considers this a weakling's argument. Gotta be tough. Don't give an inch. They also seem to think the United States is surrounded, beleaguered, encircled, vulnerable and insecure. I see a nation that is a dominant superpower that might profit greatly if it listened more.

Forget what I said!

Okay, Brucey baby, "But talk. Hear them out. Have them hear you out." Just what do we talk about, death by bomb or knife, does a dhimmi have property rights, does wife need a burka or just a scarf, what the rate of jizya is?

Tool, utter useless tool.

125 turn  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:25:34pm

Dr. Sanity is going on a blogging hiatus:

"However, I need a break from all the daily insanity. Unfortunately, I am suffering from "blogger burnout", and consequently my level of enthusiasm for blogging has declined. Add to that some significant personal and professional issues; as well as the fact that there are several other major writing projects I have been putting off for a long time now and would like to begin/finish--well, it was either take a long vacation, or quit the blogging rat race entirely."

126 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:25:49pm

re: #114 OldLineTexan

They are entirely too hard to eat while alive. That is what I have found.

LOL!

127 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:25:50pm
128 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:26:00pm

re: #69 eschew_obfuscation


Follow the trail from here, there is a link in the latest article.

www.thegoldenreport.com

129 joncelli  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:26:09pm

re: #104 Ackomanyuki

Sounds like the black helicopters have another pickup to make. (When you hear the rotors, sit very still.)

130 toomanysnax  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:26:19pm

re: #116 galloping granny

I must mention as part of my question that I got a used paperback on Amazon for $1.00 plus postage. The first buyer paid the royalty.

131 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:26:26pm

re: #119 Killian Bundy

And he doesn't have a dog.

/think about that

132 bosforus  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:26:27pm

re: #100 toomanysnax

Wierd!

I also think it's weird that the word 'weird' doesn't follow the "'i' before 'e' except after c and and when sounding like 'a'" rule. Any etymologists out there?

133 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:26:39pm

re: #114 OldLineTexan

They are entirely too hard to eat while alive. That is what I have found.

Ah, wise words from the Texan Sage

134 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:26:50pm

re: #122 Dianna

No, that's my characterization. The deer silhouette is usually portrayed as if it is leaping, and (to my eye) the angle of the antlered head looks awfully cheerful to me. So I don't call it a "deer crossing" sign, but a deer lepping merrily sign.

Coooooooool!

135 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:27:02pm

re: #17 A Kiwi Infidel

I have been reading some stuff which borders on "conspiracy theory" but I would be interested to know if you peoples have coloured disks on your letter boxes?

Have blue and red reflective disks.

Gives the drunk drivers and aiming point.

136 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:27:07pm

re: #100 toomanysnax

Buh-bye.

137 offendi  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:27:12pm

re: #89 MandyManners

That's not nice, but perhaps appropriate.

As a product of American meritocracy I am unfamiliar with salad fork/martial art etiquette. Perhaps a Letticia Baldridge course is in order?

138 MellyMel  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:27:50pm

re: #102 Kosh's Shadow

Well, if a salesman walked up our driveway, through the locked gate with the "Beware of the dog" sign and rang the bell, I think the barking would be enough to convince him to leave.
If he didn't, the sight of two dogs looking at him through the window might.

I purposely don't let the dog (a large golden) out back when they knock like I do when friends and family visit. As soon as I open the door she goes nuts barking and trying to get at them so bad it's hard to hold her back. Little do they know she really just wants to play and wouldn't hurt a fly -- but the look they get (and the backing away slowly) is priceless.

139 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:28:11pm

re: #104 Ackomanyuki

You've been reading Von Neumann's War? Or you know people even more paranoid than some of my friends during the Clinton administration?

140 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:28:17pm

re: #110 Empire1

It's been a while, but there were a lot of cheap ebooks at Fictionwise, and Baen Books has a free ebook library.

141 jamgarr  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:28:20pm

re: #132 bosforus

I also think it's weird that the word 'weird' doesn't follow the "'i' before 'e' except after c and and when sounding like 'a'" rule. Any etymologists out there?

My neighbor weighed in on that once - but never figured it out.

142 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:28:20pm

re: #124 jcm

Get beyond the "terrorist" label, which is another device for barring communication.

The stupid is strong with this one.

143 joncelli  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:29:00pm

re: #110 Empire1

If I could afford it I would get a Kindle -- Amazon keeps adding titles and you're bound to get the fantasy/SF titles you're looking for eventually (I read mostly that too -- it would be great to get A Storm of Swords, etc. in a more portable form). The downside to the Kindle is obsolescence -- what happens to all this reading material 10 years from now?

144 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:29:04pm

re: #125 turn

Dr. Sanity is going on a blogging hiatus:

"However, I need a break from all the daily insanity. Unfortunately, I am suffering from "blogger burnout", and consequently my level of enthusiasm for blogging has declined. Add to that some significant personal and professional issues; as well as the fact that there are several other major writing projects I have been putting off for a long time now and would like to begin/finish--well, it was either take a long vacation, or quit the blogging rat race entirely."

I hope she has a nice break!

145 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:29:07pm

re: #118 MandyManners

Stupid animals encroaching on our civilization.

"Stupid wildlife! Serves 'em right!"

-H. Simpson

146 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:29:11pm

re: #129 joncelli

Sounds like the black helicopters have another pickup to make. (When you hear the rotors, sit very still underneath your foil wrap.)

147 galloping granny  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:29:20pm

re: #110 Empire1

I've got a question (or several) for those of you who have, or at least have seen. e-book readers. They're still awfully pricey for what you get, but I really like the idea of 200 books on an SD chip ... that would free up a lot of space here, and save quite a bit in hardback prices, even at discount. I'm currently leaning toward the HanLin eReader, since it handles the most formats, but I've not made a solid decision.

Do the available titles make it worth getting one at all? (I mostly read SF/Fantasy for fiction, and I think I'd do better to keep my references in paper editions.)

Are they as easy to use as the ads and folks at "Daily Pundit" claim?

Does e-paper really look like paper? I have a hard time reading back-lit material for really long things, but I can read real paper all day, so this is important.

More later, probably, as I get input here!

-- Ann

I've used etexts for a couple of decades now, usually for educational purposes. Project Gutenberg has a huge selection available. eText readers have come and gone over the last decade or so and I'm not buying. The main reason is that I read about 20X faster with paper (which I can take into the tub) than I can on any screen - which is hard on my eyes.

One other problem: you might have 200 books on a chip, but only your specific ebook reader will read them, as there is no universal format. So, the minute something newer, better and tredier comes along, as it will in a couple of years, everything you "own" is now useless, just like out of date software.

148 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:29:51pm

re: #135 jcm

You do?

149 WayDownSouthInBama  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:30:08pm

re: #125 turn

Dr. Sanity is going on a blogging hiatus:

"However, I need a break from all the daily insanity. Unfortunately, I am suffering from "blogger burnout", and consequently my level of enthusiasm for blogging has declined. Add to that some significant personal and professional issues; as well as the fact that there are several other major writing projects I have been putting off for a long time now and would like to begin/finish--well, it was either take a long vacation, or quit the blogging rat race entirely."

AAARRGGGGHHHHH! I LOVE that site! I hope it's a short one. I may need some therapy myself if she stays away for too long.

150 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:30:09pm

re: #137 offendi

That's not nice, but perhaps appropriate.

As a product of American meritocracy I am unfamiliar with salad fork/martial art etiquette. Perhaps a Letticia Baldridge course is in order?

Smile when stabbing.

151 Racer X  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:30:16pm

re: #142 MandyManners

The stupid is strong with this one.

LOL!

152 opnion  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:30:21pm

re: #100 toomanysnax

I'm about half-way through O'Bama's first book. I'm past the part where he's tired of getting high and past the part where he goes to visit his favorite Communist "Frank" and at the part where he is learning about the Nation of Islam. This guy is creepier than any of the press make out. Have any of you lizards read this thing? Does it have a happy ending? Is there a point to all the words other than a half-breed trying to decide which racial team to play on? Wierd!

I read as much as I could stand. He is full of self pity and his wife seems to have real anger issues.
The whole idea of Reverend Wright was for Obama to find his male African American identity. Good choice!

153 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:30:33pm

re: #136 Occasional Reader

Buh-bye.

I'd ding it down a dozen times if I could.

154 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:30:55pm

re: #115 cygnus

I had my treo, but it's hard to get a picture from a car doing 85.

155 OldLineTexan  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:31:18pm

re: #148 A Kiwi Infidel

You do?



Red and Blue. It's for the 3-D effect you get when you cross your eyes. For drunks.

/joke

156 galloping granny  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:31:55pm

re: #105 Occasional Reader

That said, while I favor bullet holes in the signs, I could never bring myself to shoot a deer.

Shooting deer in neither barbaric nor "unkind" - especially if you intend to use the animal as food. Here in New England if we did not allow deer hunting the herds would grow so big that huge numbers would end up dying of starvation each winter. Most of the US has a similar problem.

157 toomanysnax  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:32:03pm

Heard they found blood in Ted Kennedy's arteries.

158 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:32:13pm

re: #145 Occasional Reader

"Stupid wildlife! Serves 'em right!"

-H. Simpson

Living southwest of Denver really opened my eyes. Where tasty deer go, so do the predators.

159 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:32:29pm

re: #147 galloping granny

I've stayed away from the "secure" ebooks at Fictionwise, and gotten the "multiformat" ones. Every time I've wanted to, it let me re-download the book in another format, without buying it again.

160 snopercod  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:32:41pm

This morning at 8:30AM, I put a pork butt on the grill and smoked the delectable thing for 9 hours over oak wine-barrel chips. When the time was right, I chopped it up and smothered it with Spicy BBQ Sauce from [Link: www.henryssmokehouse.com...] Eat your heart out, all you Muslims.

161 turn  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:32:57pm

re: #144 MandyManners

I get the impression this is pretty serious, she may not return at all and I will really miss her posts with clinical explanations for the behavior of the deranged left.

TTFN - Time to walk the black lab.

162 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:32:58pm
163 galloping granny  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:32:58pm

re: #143 joncelli

If I could afford it I would get a Kindle -- Amazon keeps adding titles and you're bound to get the fantasy/SF titles you're looking for eventually (I read mostly that too -- it would be great to get A Storm of Swords, etc. in a more portable form). The downside to the Kindle is obsolescence -- what happens to all this reading material 10 years from now?

Three tops.

164 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:33:10pm

re: #121 Occasional Reader

The sign's design is not my fault.

I suppose my odd sense of humor is, though.

165 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:33:28pm

re: #156 galloping granny

Shooting deer in neither barbaric nor "unkind" - especially if you intend to use the animal as food. Here in New England if we did not allow deer hunting the herds would grow so big that huge numbers would end up dying of starvation each winter. Most of the US has a similar problem.

I'm not arguing with you, just saying *I* couldn't bring myself to do it (unless I had to in order to eat, or feed my family... or, self-defense against Attack Deer, I suppose).

166 Creeping Eruption[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:33:28pm
167 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:34:04pm

re: #162 buzzsawmonkey

The pre-daters on eHarmony are also looking for tasty dears.

HA! One reason why I will steer clear of that place when I get back to dating.

168 godfrey  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:34:11pm

Mmm. Deer.

169 galloping granny  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:34:13pm

re: #159 Kosh's Shadow

I've stayed away from the "secure" ebooks at Fictionwise, and gotten the "multiformat" ones. Every time I've wanted to, it let me re-download the book in another format, without buying it again.

For now. Give it a bit to become popular and you won't see that happen any more than you can trade in your DVDs for BluRay discs.

170 Russkilitlover  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:34:16pm

re: #106 cygnus

Now I know that I'll never vote for him. He's a liberal appeaser who hates cats. Loser.

Wasn't The Mummy afraid of cats, too? Hmmm.....

171 jamgarr  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:34:21pm

re: #160 snopercod

This morning at 8:30AM, I put a pork butt on the grill and smoked the delectable thing for 9 hours over oak wine-barrel chips. When the time was right, I chopped it up and smothered it with Spicy BBQ Sauce from [Link: www.henryssmokehouse.com...] Eat your heart out, all you Muslims.

Smoked the pork ribs yesterday with mesquite - tasty!

172 Charles  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:34:31pm

re: #100 toomanysnax

Way wrong. I'm not blocking you because I don't see any history of this in your other comments. Another incident will do it, though.

173 The Other Les  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:34:31pm

re: #157 toomanysnax

Heard they found blood in Ted Kennedy's arteries.

Time for a ... naaah ... I'd better not. It would be too obvious.

174 Ackomanyuki  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:34:33pm

re: #139 Dianna


Von Neumann's War?

175 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:34:43pm

re: #164 Dianna

The sign's design is not my fault.

What we're asking about is the "lepping" misspelling. That was on the sign? Or it's just your own typo?

176 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:34:54pm

re: #166 Creeping Eruption

The post is gone.

177 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:34:57pm

re: #166 Creeping Eruption

Don't quote deletable posts, it makes more work for Stinky.

178 OldLineTexan  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:34:58pm

re: #157 toomanysnax

I think we have a moratorium on Kennedy levity. Not sure, but that's the way it seems to me.

179 Ward Cleaver  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:35:01pm

re: #166 Creeping Eruption

UNCOOL! Get lost

It's gone.

180 galloping granny  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:35:20pm

re: #165 Occasional Reader

I'm not arguing with you, just saying *I* couldn't bring myself to do it (unless I had to in order to eat, or feed my family... or, self-defense against Attack Deer, I suppose).

Most of the hunters that I know hunt specifically to feed their families and to keep up their skills in case they ever have to hunt to feed their families.

181 opnion  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:35:29pm

re: #119 Killian Bundy

And he doesn't have a dog.

/think about that

Yeah, I noticed that no dog. There is a major religion that hates dogs.
Wait a minute, you don't think..........? Nah

182 godfrey  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:35:44pm

Kennedy "levity"? Isn't that some kind of oxymoron?

183 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:35:45pm

re: #148 A Kiwi Infidel

You do?

This kind of thing.
When we moved in our box was a target.
Putting 'em on only made it worse.
Took 'em off only have to replace once a year now.

184 Ward Cleaver  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:35:46pm

re: #172 Charles

Way wrong. I'm not blocking you because I don't see any history of this in your other comments. Another incident will do it, though.

It was okay until he got to the last part.

185 eschew_obfuscation  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:35:55pm

re: #128 A Kiwi Infidel

Follow the trail from here, there is a link in the latest article.

www.thegoldenreport.com

Wow....those people have cornered the market on tin-foil hats!

186 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:35:59pm

Re: #172--

I'M BEGINNING TO SUSPECT THAT "STINKY BEAUMONT" AND "CHARLES JOHNSON" ARE THE SAME PERSON!

/cue X-Files theme music

187 rawmuse  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:36:21pm

re: #80 DownRightMeanAmerican

Where did door to door solicitors get the idea that ringing my door bell rapidly 5 times and then immediately giving 12 or so forceful knocks on my hollow core thin skinned wood front door, would make me want to do anything else but kick the solicitor right between the legs rapidly 5 times then immediately give a dozen or so forceful knocks on their forehead.

Then I would loudly proclaim, “the lights are on, but nobody is home”, a**hole, and no I don’t want any.

Rant off.

I took my doorbell off. Anyone wants me calls me first and tells me they are coming over. Plus I have a web-cam that shows me who is at my front door. That way I avoid being gang-saved by the Jehovah's.

188 Russkilitlover  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:36:24pm

re: #118 MandyManners

Stupid animals encroaching on our civilization.

Democrats?

189 Creeping Eruption  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:36:30pm

re: #177 CyanSnowHawk

Don't quote deletable posts, it makes more work for Stinky.

You are right. My bad. Douche-bags like that usually don't even know what they did wrong unless you point it out. - Won't happen again.

190 godfrey  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:36:44pm

re: #186 Occasional Reader

Stinky Beaumont sounds like a flatpicking champion from Kansas.

191 DownRightMeanAmerican  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:36:55pm

re: #97 Creeping Eruption

I had full metal jacket playing, so I had a different mind set, but that is one good idea. I think I can slurp like Doctor lector though.

re: #102 Kosh's Shadow

Living on a postage stamp So Cal circa 1970 1,400 square foot home on a enormous 5,000 square foot lot, if I put up a fence I would have to knock a big hole in the garage just so my truck would fit in the driveway.

192 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:37:05pm

Charles, please delete my No. 112, too. I quoted a bit of it. Sorry to be a bother.

193 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:37:36pm

re: #168 godfrey

Mmm. Deer.

Yes, indeed, hopefully

194 GGMac  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:37:42pm

re: #127 buzzsawmonkey

Liberals look backwards with longing to the Kennedy era, during which they viewd the US as Camelot.

Liberals look forward with longing to an Obama presidency, under which his appeasement of the Islamists will turn the US into a camel lot.

Too funny...while pathetically true.

195 bosforus  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:37:43pm

re: #192 MandyManners

Charles, please delete my No. 112, too. I quoted a bit of it. Sorry to be a bother.

#116's got it too.

196 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:38:07pm

re: #188 Russkilitlover

Democrats?

Let's not confuse the noble deer and bald eagles with Democrats, please.

197 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:38:15pm

re: #189 Creeping Eruption

You are right. My bad. Douche-bags like that usually don't even know what they did wrong unless you point it out. - Won't happen again.

I have to learn to read the posts I quote more carefully.
Twice now I've missed the slur on first reading, and replied.

However, I have taken to "replying" instead of quoting when the context is obvious enough, or not necessary.

198 Honorary Yooper  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:38:18pm

re: #192 MandyManners

I can't even make sense of what he wrote from your #112.

199 OldLineTexan  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:38:28pm

re: #182 godfrey

Kennedy "levity"? Isn't that some kind of oxymoron?

Not in my opinion. Why do you think so?

200 The Other Les  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:38:31pm

re: #186 Occasional Reader

Re: #172--

I'M BEGINNING TO SUSPECT THAT "STINKY BEAUMONT" AND "CHARLES JOHNSON" ARE THE SAME PERSON!

/cue X-Files theme music

How would he get any sleep?

(Unless he really is a lizardroid from the planet Aidemydni.)

201 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:38:45pm

re: #190 godfrey

Stinky Beaumont sounds like a flatpicking champion from Kansas.

"Kansas"? Oh, you mean one of those "states in the middle"...

/channeling BHO

202 hazzyday  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:38:53pm

re: #77 Pshawalaw

Obama also can't handle Fox News, surely he can't handle Ahmydinnerjacket if he can't take a few questions from Chris Wallace.

This a point McCain needs to debate him about.

203 galloping granny  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:39:25pm

re: #195 bosforus

#116's got it too.

Yup. Mandy and I must both be napping at the keyboard this afternoon. That kind of trash doesn't usually elude both of us.

204 wrenchwench  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:39:43pm

You know, if you head west on Interstate 10 from L.A., sooner or later you go through Beaumont, CA. The name of the next town is Banning.

205 nikis-knight  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:39:51pm

re: #124 jcm

There is a whole Internet jeering section that considers this a weakling's argument. Gotta be tough. Don't give an inch. They also seem to think the United States is surrounded, beleaguered, encircled, vulnerable and insecure. I see a nation that is a dominant superpower that might profit greatly if it listened more.

I don't think he means profit, I think he means "become more socialist like I'd like it to."

206 Russkilitlover  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:40:01pm

re: #127 buzzsawmonkey

Liberals look backwards with longing to the Kennedy era, during which they viewd the US as Camelot.

It was only TWO frigging years! Just what did Kennedy do that is so revered today? Cripes, I that the whole Kennedy adoration thing.

207 galloping granny  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:40:19pm

re: #197 Kosh's Shadow

I have to learn to read the posts I quote more carefully.
Twice now I've missed the slur on first reading, and replied.

However, I have taken to "replying" instead of quoting when the context is obvious enough, or not necessary.

I mostly hate it when people reply instead of quoting, because I then end up having to scroll back and forth up the thread.

208 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:40:21pm

re: #199 OldLineTexan

Not in my opinion. Why do you think so?

I think he means there's nothing "light" about Ted Kennedy.

(and yes, I wish him a speedy recovery, followed by retirement from public life and a conservative elected in his place)

209 vagabond trader  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:40:23pm

re: #184 Ward Cleaver

I dinged afore noting that also.I've seen worse slip through.

210 wrenchwench  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:40:42pm

Ooops, that would be east...

211 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:41:08pm

re: #183 jcm

This kind of thing.
When we moved in our box was a target.
Putting 'em on only made it worse.
Took 'em off only have to replace once a year now.


then you will get a real kick out of this, see post #128, follow link

212 joncelli  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:41:09pm

re: #204 wrenchwench

Now that calls for the Twilight Zone music. (Doodledoodle, doodldoodle.)

213 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:41:10pm

re: #186 Occasional Reader

I don;t think so... Charles is much more handsome and Stinky is... well stinky - but lovable.

214 bosforus  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:41:13pm

re: #203 galloping granny

Yup. Mandy and I must both be napping at the keyboard this afternoon. That kind of trash doesn't usually elude both of us.

The comment rubbed me the wrong way but I'm a horrible judge of what should and shouldn't be banned so I usually just keep my mouth shut.

215 Killian Bundy  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:41:49pm

half - breed

Okay, I get it, good for the seventies.

/not so much anymore

216 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:41:51pm

re: #207 galloping granny

I mostly hate it when people reply instead of quoting

We have been requested by Senior Management to do just that in referencing a deletable post, so that Stinky does not have to delete multiple posts.

217 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:41:51pm

re: #174 Ackomanyuki

I think it was just released in paperback. It's by John Ringo and Dr. Travis. I liked it quite well.

One character in it has a lot of stuff delivered to an abandoned mine.

218 godfrey  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:42:03pm

re: #199 OldLineTexan

The distinguished Senator from Massachusetts can rather tip the old scale, what?

re: #201 Occasional Reader

He probably thinks bluegrassers clap on the one and the three. Show 'em how it's done, Bryan Sutton.

219 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:42:11pm

re: #185 eschew_obfuscation


Yes, I thought that, but it always pays to check.

220 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:42:19pm

re: #204 wrenchwench

Yes, between Redlands and Joshua Tree.

221 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:42:25pm

BBL!

222 Creeping Eruption  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:42:54pm

re: #214 bosforus

The comment rubbed me the wrong way but I'm a horrible judge of what should and shouldn't be banned so I usually just keep my mouth shut.

Trust your instincts on something like that.

223 Honorary Yooper  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:43:00pm

re: #200 The Other Les

How would he get any sleep?

(Unless he really is a lizardroid from the planet Aidemydni.)

Are you sure he sleeps? "Stiny Beaumont" could be the anglicised version of what his Aidemydni name is, and "Charles Johnson" is just a cover to make people think he and Stinky are two different beings.

224 galloping granny  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:43:01pm

re: #216 Occasional Reader

We have been requested by Senior Management to do just that in referencing a deletable post, so that Stinky does not have to delete multiple posts.

True - however, I missed the deletable bit buried in the last sentence.

225 joncelli  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:43:04pm

Time to head home, Lizards. See you tonight.

226 Cognito  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:43:15pm

How brave of Google. They traced and gave up an Indian dissident to the government for offending a politician.

227 snopercod  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:43:20pm

re: #171 jamgarr

Mesquite sounds good. I used to use that when I lived out West. I'll have to try and locate a source for it here in NC. Hickory trees are like weeds here , though (grin). Wanna' trade?

228 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:43:23pm

re: #207 galloping granny

I mostly hate it when people reply instead of quoting, because I then end up having to scroll back and forth up the thread.

That's why I quote usually, but sometimes, I miss the slur and my brilliant commentary gets deleted too.

Like this time, on how Obama's book ends.
I said the happy ending comes when he loses by a landslide and retires to Iran.

229 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:43:49pm

re: #205 nikis-knight

I don't think he means profit, I think he means "become more socialist like I'd like it to."

Ding, Ding.
He writes in a town with a Lenin Statue, that thinks Patty Murray is Senate material, and that Jim McDermott is a voice of reason.

230 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:44:24pm

re: #223 Honorary Yooper

and "Charles Johnson" is just a cover

Definitely. We're supposed to think "Charles Johnson" is a real name?! I suppose his address is "123 Fake Street", right?!

/

231 Creeping Eruption  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:44:25pm

re: #228 Kosh's Shadow

I'm glad you are not referring to any other "happy endings." That would not be a book I would be interested in reading.

232 bosforus  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:44:29pm

re: #222 Creeping Eruption

Trust your instincts on something like that.

[burying my head in shame]
Not really, I just wanted an excuse to link to that picture.

233 galloping granny  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:44:46pm

re: #226 Cognito

How brave of Google. They traced and gave up an Indian dissident to the government for offending a politician.

I don't like Google. They do this in China too. I don't see them rushing to track down the jihadis who post snuff videos on YouTube (owned by Google) though, do you?

234 Creeping Eruption  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:44:47pm

re: #230 Occasional Reader

Definitely. We're supposed to think "Charles Johnson" is a real name?! I suppose his address is "123 Fake Street", right?!

/

Nope. 2121 N. Jump St.

235 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:44:51pm

re: #175 Occasional Reader

I spent far too much of my 20's among the Irish. The Irish do not leap, they lep. Thus, lepping.

The deer, as I said, looks awfully cheerful. I think it's lepping about, not leaping.

/I'm digging in deeper, aren't I?

236 nikis-knight  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:45:10pm

re: #196 MandyManners

Let's not confuse the noble deer and bald eagles with Democrats, please.

One of those three is a very patriotic group.

237 opnion  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:46:00pm

re: #228 Kosh's Shadow

That's why I quote usually, but sometimes, I miss the slur and my brilliant commentary gets deleted too.

Like this time, on how Obama's book ends.
I said the happy ending comes when he loses by a landslide and retires to Iran.


I don' know about that. Isn't Bary a Suni?

238 Cognito  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:46:02pm

re: #233 galloping granny

I don't like Google. They do this in China too. I don't see them rushing to track down the jihadis who post snuff videos on YouTube (owned by Google) though, do you?

It's indefensible. They said, "But the government subpoenaed us!"

Well, you know what? Sometimes subpoenas are meant to be ignored.

239 MellyMel  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:46:14pm

re: #187 rawmuse

I took my doorbell off. Anyone wants me calls me first and tells me they are coming over. Plus I have a web-cam that shows me who is at my front door. That way I avoid being gang-saved by the Jehovah's.

"gang-saved" -- I love it! Good one.

240 Ackomanyuki  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:46:15pm

re: #217 Dianna

Thanks,

I just looked at a quick review. John Ringo, I've heard of, never read.

No tinfoil needed on data storage redundancy for alphabets.

241 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:46:20pm

re: #187 rawmuse


Daughter rang me at work yesterday. She was at home on her day off. The JW's were walking up the neighbours driveway. "what do I do if they come here and knock on the door?"

"Are the dogs* out?"

"Yes"

"then dont worry"

* Stella, 8 year german shepherd bitch, Ringo 18month german shepherd dog, 42 kilos, barks loudly

242 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:47:07pm
... I have the Cubs' magic number at 117 and the [White] Sox at 118. Is it too early to start running one of those cheap graphic countdown devices? Look, if the main news section can run delegate counts since the Iowa Caucuses, then the Sports section should have its own countdown gizmo, too, sweetie.

By Steve Rosenbloom, columnist for the Chicago Tribune

243 itellu3times  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:47:22pm

re: #127 buzzsawmonkey

Liberals look backwards with longing to the Kennedy era, during which they viewd the US as Camelot.

Camelot fell. Maybe it's the fall they really want to repeat.

244 Honorary Yooper  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:47:43pm

re: #236 nikis-knight

re: #196 MandyManners

Let's not confuse the noble deer and bald eagles with Democrats, please.


One of those three is a very patriotic group.

Yep, bald eagles are very patriotic. On the other hand, never question a Dem's patriotism even if he/she is working with the enemy.

245 eschew_obfuscation  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:48:55pm

re: #223 Honorary Yooper

Are you sure he sleeps? "Stiny Beaumont" could be the anglicised version of what his Aidemydni name is, and "Charles Johnson" is just a cover to make people think he and Stinky are two different beings.


Oh, I get it......"Charles Johnson" is Stinky' sock puppet!

246 rawmuse  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:48:57pm

re: #239 MellyMel

"gang-saved" -- I love it! Good one.

Don't you notice they show up in groups of five or six?

247 jamgarr  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:49:38pm

re: #227 snopercod

Mesquite sounds good. I used to use that when I lived out West. I'll have to try and locate a source for it here in NC. Hickory trees are like weeds here , though (grin). Wanna' trade?

Hickory is probably my favorite. Apple's good too. My mesquite comes from the grocery store.

248 Empire1  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:50:15pm

re: #143 joncelli

If I could afford it I would get a Kindle -- Amazon keeps adding titles and you're bound to get the fantasy/SF titles you're looking for eventually (I read mostly that too -- it would be great to get A Storm of Swords, etc. in a more portable form). The downside to the Kindle is obsolescence -- what happens to all this reading material 10 years from now?

The Kindle is tempting for those reasons, but it's $400, and only handles 3 formats -- though one is Amazon's proprietary AZW (which I admit bugs me no end -- I want to buy a book and read it the way I can do on paper, not have to worry about who published it and what reader that publisher will let it be seen on.)

-- Ann

249 Russkilitlover  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:51:41pm

re: #196 MandyManners

Let's not confuse the noble deer and bald eagles with Democrats, please.

My bad and a thousand apologies to the entire animal kingdom. I should have said Liberals, anyway. There are some non-moonbat Dems and I sure do hope they come out in droves to vote Repub this Nov.

250 debutaunt  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:51:49pm

re: #63 Dianna

I've been wondering something. When we were up in Sonoma for a wedding, it seemed to me that their "watch out for deer lepping merrily across the freeway" signs portrayed a rather rotund fellow, while Alameda, San Mateo and Santa Clara Counties used a buck with a nice, tucked little belly.

Has anyone else noted this variation anywhere else?

Someone up Napa way might be giving some 'beer-bellies to Bambi?

251 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:52:45pm
252 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:53:06pm

re: #246 rawmuse

No more than three in the 'burbs.

I must say, at least they haven't found my new place, yet. I generally give the Mormon kids some water or 7-up if they come by during the summer, though I won't let them tell me about their religion or give me any reading material.

253 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:53:33pm
254 MellyMel  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:53:56pm

re: #246 rawmuse

Don't you notice they show up in groups of five or six?

Oh yeah -- and they keep coming back. Last time I answered the door I told them we were Jewish and not converting (and pointed to the mezuzah). (Small lie, my husband is Jewish I am not). The next time they came, he answered the door and they told him I asked them to come back. Creeping me out really.

255 Render  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:54:08pm

re: #111 OldLineTexan

No jest.

However Kennedy was clearly not responsible for the debacle it became afterward.

HE'S
DEAD
JIM,
R

256 DownRightMeanAmerican  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:54:18pm

re: #187 rawmuse

Why that’s no fun, them JW’s can be a real hoot. I think they are on to me, they keep sending me the really old ones and I don’t have the heart to challenge them.

257 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:54:25pm

re: #250 debutaunt

Considering that the couple deer I did see in Sonoma looked like they could stand to go on a low-carb diet, the signs are very representative.

258 galloping granny  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:56:13pm

re: #254 MellyMel

Oh yeah -- and they keep coming back. Last time I answered the door I told them we were Jewish and not converting (and pointed to the mezuzah). (Small lie, my husband is Jewish I am not). The next time they came, he answered the door and they told him I asked them to come back. Creeping me out really.

Tell them the next time they come back you will call the police. Or answer the door naked. Either way, you won't see them again.

259 Empire1  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:56:52pm

re: #147 galloping granny


One other problem: you might have 200 books on a chip, but only your specific ebook reader will read them, as there is no universal format. So, the minute something newer, better and tredier comes along, as it will in a couple of years, everything you "own" is now useless, just like out of date software.

::groan:: Yes, one of the reasons I'm reluctant, despite the convenience. I've still got books published before I was born that are easily readable (an antique Bible I got my mother, then got back when she died, for instance). But things I put on a 3.5" disk are unreadable now without an expensive transfer to CD ...

-- Ann

260 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:56:58pm

re: #257 Dianna

Considering that the couple deer I did see in Sonoma looked like they could stand to go on a low-carb diet, the signs are very representative.

Don't worry, President Obama will convince those deer that they can't just eat as much as they want, and expect other countries to say, "that's okay".

261 itellu3times  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:57:43pm

re: #253 buzzsawmonkey

They think Obama is King Arthur, when he's really Mordred.

And Hillary is Morgana, I think I said the other day.

262 Russkilitlover  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:57:44pm

re: #243 itellu3times

Camelot fell. Maybe it's the fall they really want to repeat.

And it fell through betrayal from within. Camelot. It's really not such a good label.

263 nikis-knight  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:57:50pm

re: #229 jcm

Ding, Ding.
He writes in a town with a Lenin Statue, that thinks Patty Murray is Senate material, and that Jim McDermott is a voice of treason.

Fixed it for him. (according to a recent spin-off link, anyway.)

264 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:58:50pm
265 itellu3times  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:58:59pm

re: #262 Russkilitlover

And it fell through betrayal from within. Camelot. It's really not such a good label.

Watch out for any French guys in Obama's inner circle.

266 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:59:19pm

re: #258 galloping granny

Granny, "Naked at the door?"


I thought I was the only one who had done that... Made some very determined solicitor (sales not legal) very, very nervous, too.

267 galloping granny  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:59:40pm

re: #259 Empire1

::groan:: Yes, one of the reasons I'm reluctant, despite the convenience. I've still got books published before I was born that are easily readable (an antique Bible I got my mother, then got back when she died, for instance). But things I put on a 3.5" disk are unreadable now without an expensive transfer to CD ...

-- Ann

Yup. I own close to 40K worth of software that is on the "big" 1.2 MB floppies that is unreadable.

268 yochanan  Mon, May 19, 2008 2:59:52pm

re: #158 MandyManners

Living southwest of Denver really opened my eyes. Where tasty deer go, so do the predators.

WE HAVE PLENTY OF DEER IN C(R)OOK COUNTRY WOULD EXPLAIN THE COUGAR (FOUR LEGGED KIND) THEY SHOT WITH IN WALKING DISTANCE OF THE LOUP (DOWN TOWN CHICAGO)

269 opnion  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:00:09pm

re: #262 Russkilitlover

And it fell through betrayal from within. Camelot. It's really not such a good label.

The really big reason for tying the kennedys to Camelot is that the musical stage play was huge at the time

270 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:01:56pm

re: #268 yochanan

Especially in news Western Crook County! Talk about a lack of foliage on some of the tasty young shoots, too.

271 Russkilitlover  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:02:06pm

re: #269 opnion

The really big reason for tying the kennedys to Camelot is that the musical stage play was huge at the time

Then we should call the Obama years American Idol.

272 The Other Les  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:02:16pm

re: #264 buzzsawmonkey

You could just hang the dessicated corpse of a chicken butchered according to Santeria rites on your front door like a wreath. It will probably keep unwanted callers at bay, and your friends will know and understand.

Would a rubber chicken do?

273 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:02:51pm

re: #270 Conservative in Liberal Hands

Especially in news Western Crook County! Talk about a lack of foliage on some of the tasty young shoots, too.

Just washed my hands and can't type.

274 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:02:56pm
275 nikis-knight  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:03:24pm

re: #271 Russkilitlover

Then we should call the Obama years American Idol.

Oh that's good. Similar in depth, demographics, and repetition of voting come Novemeber, I'll wager.

276 opnion  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:03:56pm

re: #271 Russkilitlover

Then we should call the Obama years American Idol.


How about, Deal or no deal?

277 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:03:57pm

re: #268 yochanan

THE COUGAR (FOUR LEGGED KIND) THEY SHOT WITH IN WALKING DISTANCE OF THE LOUP

A cougar within walking distance of a (French) wolf? All you need is a bear, and... oh my!

278 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:04:03pm
279 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:04:39pm

re: #276 opnion

How about, Deal or no deal?

Lost comes to mind.

280 nikis-knight  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:05:55pm

re: #271 Russkilitlover

Then we should call the Obama years American Idol.

Actually, given his voting patterns, maybe it should be American Idle.

/In before Buzzsawmonkey?

281 debutaunt  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:06:15pm

re: #106 cygnus

Now I know that I'll never vote for him. He's a liberal appeaser who hates cats. Loser.

You can train a cat to do anything it wants to do. - Solomon Short

282 opnion  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:06:19pm

re: #279 Occasional Reader

Lost comes to mind.

283 Granola  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:07:05pm

re: #270 Conservative in Liberal Hands

Especially in news Western Crook County! Talk about a lack of foliage on some of the tasty young shoots, too.

Lack of hunters and hunting will do that.

284 Killian Bundy  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:07:39pm

re: #268 yochanan

WE HAVE PLENTY OF DEER IN C(R)OOK COUNTRY WOULD EXPLAIN THE COUGAR (FOUR LEGGED KIND) THEY SHOT WITH IN WALKING DISTANCE OF THE LOUP (DOWN TOWN CHICAGO)

Downtown Chicago, toss a donut on the sidewalk.

/what happens next?

285 Russkilitlover  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:08:00pm

re: #279 Occasional Reader

Lost comes to mind.

That's the winner!

286 opnion  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:09:24pm

re: #283 Granola

Lack of hunters and hunting will do that.


Cook county does not have a lot of hunters, but there is still a lot of gun play.

287 Occasional Reader  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:09:31pm

I'm off for a run. Hopefully I won't be attacked by cougars.

288 gop_patriot  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:09:40pm

re: #284 Killian Bundy

Downtown Chicago, toss a donut on the sidewalk.

/what happens next?

Dang, I should know this one!

/Just came up on your last pop quiz...

289 Cognito  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:09:43pm

From the Dept. of Heinous Acts:

People in South Africa have a new hobby: Burning foreigners alive.

Rocks and fire. Nice.

290 opnion  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:09:54pm

re: #285 Russkilitlover

That's the winner!


I second

291 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:11:43pm

re: #289 Cognito

From the Dept. of Heinous Acts:

People in South Africa have a new hobby: Burning foreigners alive.

Rocks and fire. Nice.

Delightful.
/

292 bosforus  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:12:21pm

re: #289 Cognito

Here's a gem of a quote.


They are bad people, he said: “A South African may take your cell phone but he won’t kill you. A foreigner will take your phone and kill you.”
293 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:12:46pm

re: #260 Occasional Reader

Obambi! You're eating too much and have too large a carbon footprint!

- BOH

294 Conspirator  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:13:32pm

Here's yet another good Obama cartoon from [Link: www.americanthinker.com....]

295 debutaunt  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:13:48pm

re: #137 offendi

That's not nice, but perhaps appropriate.

As a product of American meritocracy I am unfamiliar with salad fork/martial art etiquette. Perhaps a Letticia Baldridge course is in order?

She was very funny.

296 Killian Bundy  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:14:03pm

re: #288 gop_patriot

Dang, I should know this one!

Just came up on your last pop quiz...

/it's actually pretty amazing and Alfred Hitchcock is dead

297 bosforus  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:14:07pm

It'd be nice if some day in this world we didn't have to see pictures of people being put out by fire extinguishers.

298 gop_patriot  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:14:49pm

re: #289 Cognito

Oh, God. That's despicable.

/but the USA is the worst country in the history of the world, and treats it's illegal immigrants the worst, by heinously deporting them

299 Racer X  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:15:28pm

re: #298 gop_patriot

Oh, God. That's despicable.

/but the USA is the worst country in the history of the world, and treats it's illegal immigrants the worst, by heinously NOT deporting them

Fixed.

300 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:15:33pm

re: #297 bosforus

It'd be nice if some day in this world we didn't have to see pictures of people being put out by fire extinguishers.

I saw that, and thought cleaning him up will be hell. (I familiar with want goes on on a burn ward)

301 gop_patriot  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:15:46pm

re: #296 Killian Bundy

/it's actually pretty amazing and Alfred Hitchcock is dead

Da birds!

/complete with Chicago accent

302 gop_patriot  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:16:20pm

re: #299 Racer X

True, true.

303 Russkilitlover  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:16:48pm

re: #293 Dianna

Obambi! You're eating too much and have too large a carbon footprint!

- BOH

I think I've missed something. What are the comments about Obama saying we eat too much about?

304 bosforus  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:17:17pm

re: #300 jcm

I saw that, and thought cleaning him up will be hell. (I familiar with want goes on on a burn ward)

My brother was in South Africa about 15 years ago and remembers seeing news footage of a person who had a tire thrown around him and set on fire.

305 Mich-again  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:18:12pm

The South African "Necktie". One of Winnie Mandela's favorite tactics for political foes.

306 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:20:11pm

re: #303 Russkilitlover

Another of his gaffes - this one was in an earlier thread.

307 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:20:45pm
308 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:21:05pm

BHO in Pendleton OR.

If Iran ever tried to pose a serious threat to us, they wouldn't stand a chance. And we should use that position of strength that we have to be bold enough to go ahead and listen. That doesn't mean we agree with them on everything. We might not compromise on any issues, but at least, we should find out other areas of potential common interest, and we can reduce some of the tensions that has caused us so many problems around the world."

19 hijackers and 4 planes made for a bad day.
What's 15Kt in Manhattan gonna' look like?

Do you understand Barack, Dinnerjacket and the Mad Mullahs DON'T CARE IF THEY DON'T STAND A CHANCE.
THEY WELCOME IT!

309 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:21:32pm

re: #307 song_and_dance_man

Well, thank goodness for that!

310 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:21:53pm

re: #304 bosforus

My brother was in South Africa about 15 years ago and remembers seeing news footage of a person who had a tire thrown around him and set on fire.

Necklacing. Wonderful quaint cultural practice.
/////

311 tigerwoman  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:23:13pm

Is the "driving SUV's, eating all we want, and keeping our thermostats at 72" comment getting any play? That bastard. I'll set my f#$%#ing thermostat wherever I want. This comment really chaps my ass! He wants the rest of us to live like the f#$%ing third worlders while he lives in a mansion. That bastard.

312 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:23:42pm

re: #310 jcm

That was also done in Haiti. Horrible business.

313 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:24:36pm

re: #311 tigerwoman

Well, you know, he needs that mansion to be at 72 degrees so he can keep a cool head and work for all of us.

/

314 DownRightMeanAmerican  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:24:39pm

New avatar, I am the big shark fisherman. /

Why is it that I always seem to hear my cell phone ringing when its not, yet when it really does ring I don’t hear it.

I think I have cell phonephobia.

315 Mich-again  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:24:57pm

re: #308 jcm

And we should use that position of strength...

Weapons are only a deterrent if your foe believes you will actually use them. And Flat Barry ain't scaring anybody in Iran.

316 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:26:12pm

re: #312 Dianna

That was also done in Haiti. Horrible business.

Hard to imagine. That amount of brutality.

317 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:26:18pm
318 DownRightMeanAmerican  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:27:08pm

What’s this thermostat at 72 BS, mine is at 78 for the last week and the damn thing wont shut off, Thanks Al Gore you ***hole.

319 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:27:10pm

re: #315 Mich-again

Weapons are only a deterrent if your foe believes you will actually use them. And Flat Barry ain't scaring anybody in Iran.

He might not scare 'em in Tehran, but I sure got the jitters.

320 bosforus  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:28:21pm

re: #316 jcm

Hard to imagine. That amount of brutality.

I'd be surprised if it didn't originate from the Quran.

321 tigerwoman  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:29:37pm

I don't need Obama working for me. Even if he is a candidate for the POTUS!

322 Yankee Division Son  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:29:38pm

re: #311 tigerwoman

Is the "driving SUV's, eating all we want, and keeping our thermostats at 72" comment getting any play? That bastard. I'll set my f#$%#ing thermostat wherever I want. This comment really chaps my ass! He wants the rest of us to live like the f#$%ing third worlders while he lives in a mansion. That bastard.

This reminds me of a Carter speach "turn down your thermostat, and wear a sweater, leave your car home once a week, carpool, it's your duty!" I think it was the "malaise" speach...

Obama, the candidate for those who didn't get enough of the Carter administration.

323 Russkilitlover  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:29:52pm

re: #317 buzzsawmonkey

Brilliant. You've outdone yourself on this one.

324 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:29:59pm

re: #320 bosforus

I'd be surprised if it didn't originate from the Quran.

Given the groups involved I'd suspect Lefortovo first.

325 Dianna  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:30:25pm

I'm headed home.

Take care, all!

326 DesertSage  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:30:38pm

Thermostat?

What's all this thermostat crap? I have one little window A/C for the entire house, and I barely use it.

327 Mich-again  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:31:03pm

When Barry makes a foreign policy statement he has to walk the thin line between reality and what his base constituency believes reality to be. The width of that line is the square root of negative 1. That explains the imaginary nature of his strategy.

328 sngnsgt  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:31:51pm

re: #311 tigerwoman

Is the "driving SUV's, eating all we want, and keeping our thermostats at 72" comment getting any play? That bastard. I'll set my f#$%#ing thermostat wherever I want. This comment really chaps my ass! He wants the rest of us to live like the f#$%ing third worlders while he lives in a mansion. That bastard.

When he proves to me he's living anywhere near these standards, then he can talk to me about what my thermostat is set to, what I drive, and how much fossil fuel I burn! Go f*#$ yourself Obama!

329 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:32:09pm

I think Hugh Hewitt just announced John Bolton up next on his program.

330 bosforus  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:32:13pm

re: #324 jcm

Given the groups involved I'd suspect Lefortovo first.

I don't follow. A quick google search of Lefortovo told me what that is but I don't understand how it applies here.

331 yochanan  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:32:51pm

re: #291 jcm

Delightful.
/

S. A. is only 10 years behind zimbawa i suspect many will look back on apartied a little more kindly in the future, of course apartied was racist and undemocratic but they did believe in a rule of law which they don't seem to have now.

332 Mich-again  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:33:50pm

re: #319 jcm

He has to get Hillary off his ankle first. And she's got the jaws of a pit bull.

333 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:34:06pm
"If Iran ever tried to pose a serious threat to us, they wouldn't stand a chance. And we should use that position of strength that we have to be bold enough to go ahead and listen. That doesn't mean we agree with them on everything. We might not compromise on any issues, but at least, we should find out other areas of potential common interest, and we can reduce some of the tensions that has caused us so many problems around the world."


If he keeps talking he will get the republicans to the polls. He's as dangerous as the enemy.
Wow! just Wow!

334 DesertSage  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:34:37pm

re: #331 yochanan

S. A. is only 10 years behind zimbawa...

Saudi Arabia?
San Antonio?

335 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:35:16pm

re: #330 bosforus

I don't follow. A quick google search of Lefortovo told me what that is but I don't understand how it applies here.

The current government and Mendela are solid Red in out look. I suspect the practice of Necklacing was a little intimidation practice cooked up by the KGB back in the "good" old days.

336 Mich-again  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:35:40pm

re: #311 tigerwoman

Is the "driving SUV's, eating all we want, and keeping our thermostats at 72" comment getting any play?

Any estimates on the carbon footprint of Jeremiah Wright's taxpayer subsidized mansion?

337 bosforus  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:35:46pm

re: #335 jcm

Gotcha

338 rageman  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:36:11pm

Obama should see if Carter is available to serve as VP. Birds of a feather....

339 yochanan  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:36:39pm

re: #334 DesertSage

south africa

340 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:37:02pm

re: #328 sngnsgt

When he proves to me he's living anywhere near these standards, then he can talk to me about what my thermostat is set to, what I drive, and how much fossil fuel I burn! Go f*#$ yourself Obama!

Do you remember this?

In other words, the temperature of your home will no longer be yours to control. Your desires and needs can and will be overridden by the state of California through its public and private utility organizations. All this is for the common good, of course.
341 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:37:29pm
342 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:38:19pm
343 rageman  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:39:23pm

No se puede (in CA).

344 Mich-again  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:39:41pm

Bob Seger wrote the theme song for this Summer's DNC convention..

Get out Denver baby go...
Get out of Denver baby go go..
Get out of Denver cause you look just like a commie and you might just be a member baby..
Get out of Denver baby go-oh-oh..

Soon to be followed by "Like a Rock" when the polls come out afterward.

345 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:42:04pm

re: #344 Mich-again

Bob Seger wrote the theme song for this Summer's DNC convention..

Soon to be followed by "Like a Rock" when the polls come out afterward.

I was thinking all the delegates around the Pepsi Center singing We didn't Start the Fire.

346 Mich-again  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:43:33pm

re: #345 jcm

I was thinking all the delegates around the Pepsi Center singing We didn't Start the Fire.

And theres always, "Send in the Clowns"

347 gop_patriot  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:43:37pm

re: #342 buzzsawmonkey

"NO WE CAN'T!" --BHO

My thoughts on this matter...

348 UFO TOFU  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:43:42pm

re: #340 jcm
It's California, it's probably a done deal.

349 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:44:14pm

re: #346 Mich-again

And theres always, "Send in the Clowns"

Think we can make a broadway musical of it?

350 infidel Alan  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:44:23pm

Four of my relatives are talking about going to South Africa with a youth orchestra on tour next summer. I've been telling them it is a bad idea.

351 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:44:51pm

re: #348 UFO TOFU

It's California, it's probably a done deal.

The backlash was pretty substantial. It's been shelved..... for now.

352 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:45:09pm

I keep my thermostat on 65 in the winter and 72 in the summer, but those are MY choices. In a free market, I can choose what I'm willing to pay.

Goodness, I wish Hillary would pull off the nomination.

353 UFO TOFU  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:47:23pm

re: #351 jcm
It's getting pretty hot here already. Rolling blackouts will have the politicans springing into action.

354 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:50:02pm

re: #353 UFO TOFU

It's getting pretty hot here already. Rolling blackouts will have the politicans springing into action.

The energy reform plan in CA worked out really well didn't it?
/

Yep then same bunch who got you into the fix will get you out.

Hope you've got a good hold on your wallet.

355 sngnsgt  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:50:45pm

re: #340 jcm

I don't remember it, but it sounds like the same s*!?, different day.

356 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:51:30pm

re: #352 goddessoftheclassroom

I keep my thermostat on 65 in the winter and 72 in the summer, but those are MY choices. In a free market, I can choose what I'm willing to pay.

Goodness, I wish Hillary would pull off the nomination.

Tsk, tsk, think how much easier our live would be if we didn't have to think about the little things like where the thermostat is set.

BHO will take care of everything, relax.
/

357 Conspirator  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:51:32pm

re: #352 goddessoftheclassroom

I keep my thermostat on 65 in the winter and 72 in the summer, but those are MY choices. In a free market, I can choose what I'm willing to pay.

Goodness, I wish Hillary would pull off the nomination.

So do I. Even she scares me less than Obama. At least she's not friends with an unrepentant terrorist, and didn't go to Wright's church for 20 years, listening to his lunacy.

358 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:51:33pm

Interesting thoughts....
Sam Harris - Stem Cells and Morality

359 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:52:45pm

re: #355 sngnsgt

I don't remember it, but it sounds like the same s*!?, different day.

Hey, we're all too fookin' stupid to know this stuff. Let them handle it for us.
Utopia!
///

360 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:54:13pm
361 Mich-again  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:54:19pm

California needs more power plants. And since the locals won't allow any to be built I recommend a ship with a nuclear reactor anchored just off the coast with HV cables tethered to land. OK, so its not in your backyard. Kwitcherbitchin.

362 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:56:05pm

re: #361 Mich-again

California needs more power plants. And since the locals won't allow any to be built I recommend a ship with a nuclear reactor anchored just off the coast with HV cables tethered to land. OK, so its not in your backyard. Kwitcherbitchin.

Hell, even the founder of Greenpeace is now pro nuclear.

363 Mich-again  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:58:32pm

re: #362 jcm

Anybody taking a realistic view of our country’s energy requirements knows nuclear has to be a big part of the global warming equation,” Moore said. “These environmental groups are not doing that.”

Moore’s critiques of the Sierra Club and Friends of the Earth have not been well-received. He’s been called a traitor, a prostitute, and has even been branded the “eco Judas” by former colleagues.

Another anti-idiotarian is hatched. Always a good sign.

364 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 3:58:45pm
365 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:00:12pm

re: #364 song_and_dance_man

Hey SaDM, how ya' been?

366 UFO TOFU  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:00:31pm

re: #362 jcm
Wasn't the guy that wrote The Skeptical Environmentalist originally part of Greenpeace?

367 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:01:32pm
368 UFO TOFU  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:01:34pm

re: #364 song_and_dance_man
I have the video of one with Johnson. Would love to see that live.

369 Maximu§  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:02:05pm

re: #352 goddessoftheclassroom

I keep my thermostat on 65 in the winter and 72 in the summer, but those are MY choices. In a free market, I can choose what I'm willing to pay.

Goodness, I wish Hillary would pull off the nomination.

I'm an engineer and the desired indoor Human comfort temperature is 75 F. You can bet the Obama's thermostat never goes above 72 F.

370 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:02:08pm

re: #362 jcm

Hell, even the founder of Greenpeace is now pro nuclear.

Patrick Moore broke away from Greenpeace, which he founded, when it became obvious that it was completely overrun by anti-capitalist wackos and science was no longer a serious consideration in their actions. His new group is Greenspirit, and the Greenspirit website is worth a read.

371 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:02:59pm
372 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:03:13pm

re: #366 UFO TOFU

Wasn't the guy that wrote The Skeptical Environmentalist originally part of Greenpeace?

I think so, I know he was pretty deep into and start asking questions.

373 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:03:16pm
374 gop_patriot  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:03:21pm

Indiana Man Operates Oil Well in Backyard, Producing Three Barrels of Crude a Day


"It's a money maker. It is paying off," Losh told FOX.

The oil is stored in a tank and transported to Ohio for sale, he said. His oil well also produces natural gas to heat his home and several others.

375 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:03:24pm

re: #369 Maximu§

I'm an engineer and the desired indoor Human comfort temperature is 75 F. You can bet the Obama's thermostat never goes above 72 F.

I can take chilly, but I HATE being hot!

376 Tigger2005  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:03:33pm

Anyone hear about Sen. Robert Byrd's endorsement of Obama? Yyeeeecccchhhhh. Vomit-inducing.

He will happily sell his country down the river to assuage his white guilt.

377 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:04:26pm
378 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:05:13pm

re: #375 goddessoftheclassroom

I'm with you on that goddess. Bring on the Ice Age!

/Oops, maybe that's a little bit too much cold.

379 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:05:15pm

re: #331 yochanan

S. A. is only 10 years behind zimbawa i suspect many will look back on apartied a little more kindly in the future, of course apartied was racist and undemocratic but they did believe in a rule of law which they don't seem to have now.

It will get worse. With Zuma lined up as the next pres of SA, Mandela, at 90yrs, cant last forever. Even tho Mandela is no-longer a political force his influence is still there. When he "goes" we may see some real fire works in SA, in the same vein as Zimbabwe.

380 Tigger2005  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:05:16pm

re: #375 goddessoftheclassroom

I can take chilly, but I HATE being hot!

I'm the opposite. I hate being cold.

381 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:05:40pm
382 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:06:21pm

re: #371 ploome hineni


There you go, get me John Howard on the Phone. Oh, he's gone. Bugger.

383 gop_patriot  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:06:30pm

Probably already been posted somewhere, but still, amazing and scary photos. May God bless and keep our military men and women!

Photos Show Marine's Narrow Escape From Death in Afghanistan

384 Intrepid  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:07:06pm

re: #190 godfrey

Stinky Beaumont sounds like a flatpicking champion from Kansas.

First time I saw the name "Stinky Beaumont" it reminded me of all my first grade classmates - I remember them all by the full name, never just their first name. I think we had a "Stinky" in our class....

385 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:07:35pm

re: #380 Tigger2005

I'm the opposite. I hate being cold.

My mom and sister-in-law are like you. My kids run around the house all winter in shorts and t-shirts!

Actually. as long as it's not too humid, I can get by with a fan at night.

386 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:08:21pm

re: #383 gop_patriot

wow.

387 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:08:35pm

re: #370 CyanSnowHawk

Patrick Moore broke away from Greenpeace, which he founded, when it became obvious that it was completely overrun by anti-capitalist wackos and science was no longer a serious consideration in their actions. His new group is Greenspirit, and the Greenspirit website is worth a read.

I'm all for science based, logical and reasoned proper stewardship of our resources.

I think the thing that tick me off most about the current crop of "greenies" isn't the control the want over me. It that the want to relegate third world countries to substance levels. Imbued with the "noble savage" myth that somehow they think that it's a good thing to keep people on the brink catastrophe all the time.

388 LeePro  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:08:37pm

re: #347 gop_patriot

My thoughts on this matter...

WTG, gop! ! !

389 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:09:28pm
390 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:09:29pm

re: #384 Intrepid

First time I saw the name "Stinky Beaumont" it reminded me of all my first grade classmates - I remember them all by the full name, never just their first name. I think we had a "Stinky" in our class....


We ALL had a "stinky" in our classroom.

391 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:09:47pm

re: #367 song_and_dance_man

Doing good and enjoying my Saturday. Mu son graduated from 8th grade today.

Congratulation to you and he both!

Took the kids to a local lake beach on Sunday. Great fun.

392 Maximu§  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:09:53pm

re: #377 ploome hineni

I keep my summer temp at 78

Same here, 78 F is perfect.

Who the Hell does Obama think he is? Should we sit and swelter in a hut, with hunger pangs shooting through our guts to make him and the 3rd world happy?

393 sngnsgt  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:10:42pm

re: #380 Tigger2005
Ditto, give me 100 degrees plus all day long, as long as it's not humid, I love it!
/worked outside in Vegas for 10 years

394 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:10:51pm
395 gop_patriot  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:13:09pm

re: #386 Killgore Trout

Did you click on the whole series of photos? Unreal.

/does anyone know what type of gun that is? It's huge!

396 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:13:10pm

re: #394 song_and_dance_man

I'm hot where ever I go;-?

I'm So Hot!

*ducks and runs*

397 DesertSage  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:13:37pm

If it gets over 80° I'm miserable.

398 Ojoe  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:13:46pm

Obama is a tiny candidate

399 gop_patriot  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:14:24pm

re: #388 LeePro

LOL! I was so irritated that I made a typo, which I only noticed when linking it above. :p

/how are you doing?

400 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:15:43pm
401 Render  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:17:21pm

re: #383 gop_patriot

That's a man's US Marine right there. Jumped into the firing line without his helmet and armor.

The pix don't show it, but I'll bet that once that Marine finished cataloging all his body parts as being present and accounted for, he stepped right back into the line.

PULLERS
MEN,
R

402 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:18:10pm

re: #375 goddessoftheclassroom

I can take chilly, but I HATE being hot!

I'm the opposite. I can always take off extra clothes but, bundling up restricts movement.

403 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:18:20pm

re: #395 gop_patriot

Did you click on the whole series of photos? Unreal.

/does anyone know what type of gun that is? It's huge!

Looks like an M-16 with a few accessories hanging off of it.

405 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:18:28pm

Oh, lordy. What did I just say?

406 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:19:15pm

re: #395 gop_patriot

Did you click on the whole series of photos? Unreal.

/does anyone know what type of gun that is? It's huge!

Looks like the M16A2 with a a quad rail barrel shroud, scope and extra grip.

407 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:19:22pm
408 Ojoe  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:19:23pm

re: #405 MandyManners

Don't worry, this is a comedy site.

409 madisonsfriend  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:19:40pm

I avoid a lot of the campaign news- because really, do I need to know that someone's advisor is a scumbag- isn't that the definition of a campaign advisor? However, I skimmed an article today about people Hillary worked with when she was a young lawyer who said that she should have watched her mouth when she accused Obama of consorting with radicals. It seems the law firm defended Black panthers, the american communist party and similar quiet,conservative types and that Hillary knew what she was doing then. But this can't be new info, can it?

410 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:20:16pm

re: #400 song_and_dance_man

I haven't heard that in a long time and never want to hear it again.

Sorry, my evil twin hopped on line there for a moment.

411 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:20:41pm

re: #405 MandyManners

Oh, lordy. What did I just say?

Saved for eternity ;-P

412 sngnsgt  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:20:47pm
"We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK."

Yes I will Barry, in fact, I keep my thermostat lower than 72 in the summer and higher than 72 in the winter. I'm going to do these things for 1 reason: Because I can. I'm the one that brings the bread home, I'll spend it any way I want to.

413 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:20:57pm

re: #408 Ojoe

Don't worry, this is a comedy site.

I swear sometimes my brain-to-finger filter doesn't function.

414 Ojoe  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:21:32pm

re: #413 MandyManners

fortunately for us!

415 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:21:33pm

re: #405 MandyManners

Oh, lordy. What did I just say?

I believe it went something like this.

...I can always take off extra clothes...

416 gop_patriot  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:21:52pm

re: #401 Render

That's a man's US Marine right there. Jumped into the firing line without his helmet and armor.

The pix don't show it, but I'll bet that once that Marine finished cataloging all his body parts as being present and accounted for, he stepped right back into the line.

PULLERS
MEN,
R

Well, if I was younger, and you know, single, I'd find that guy and marry him.

417 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:22:04pm

re: #411 jcm

Saved for eternity ;-P

I'll will it to The Kid.

418 LeePro  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:22:10pm

re: #391 jcm

Congratulation to you and he both!

Took the kids to a local lake beach on Sunday. Great fun.

Congratulations to... he... ?

Arrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhh! ! !

419 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:22:30pm

re: #414 Ojoe

fortunately for us!

Glad to amuse.

420 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:22:36pm

re: #404 Ojoe

We can't eat as much as we want? WTF? I have kids, I'll feed them thank you very much Mr. Obama.

*spit*

He trotted out the old commie attack line, "6% of the worlds population consume 25% of the resources."

421 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:23:05pm

re: #415 CyanSnowHawk

I believe it went something like this.

...I can always take off extra clothes...

Yeah, well, at least I put that caveat in there.

422 gop_patriot  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:23:15pm

re: #403 CyanSnowHawk

re: #406 jcm

Thanks!

423 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:23:50pm

Supernatural Graffiti....
Amazing face of Jesus

An amazing face of a praying jesus appears in two knots on the back of a cabinet

Miraculous!

424 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:24:04pm

re: #418 LeePro

Congratulations to... he... ?

Arrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhh! ! !

sorry
I'll take Mandy's excuse, brain to finger filter not working.

425 Ojoe  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:24:19pm

Gotta get back to work so we can eat as much as we want.

BBL

426 gop_patriot  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:24:31pm

re: #405 MandyManners

LOL!

427 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:24:53pm

re: #397 DesertSage

If it gets over 80° I'm miserable.

I am currently enjoying the just over 100° temp with 11% humidity. Could be worse, certainly will be by June/July. The thing that is really awful is that the air quality is for shit here during the summer months.

/and no, I am NOT "currently enjoying" this weather

428 stevieray  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:25:01pm

re: #354 jcm

The energy reform plan in CA worked out really well didn't it?
/

Yep then same bunch who got you into the fix will get you out.

Hope you've got a good hold on your wallet.

Here's a good summary of California's energy problems from City Journal:

California's Potemkin Environmentalism

429 Render  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:25:07pm

re: #406 jcm

M-16A4.

The A2 version has a full auto-capability that's rough on optics.

THREE
ROUND
BURST,
R

430 LeePro  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:25:10pm

re: #399 gop_patriot

LOL! I was so irritated that I made a typo, which I only noticed when linking it above. :p

/how are you doing?

Good, but can't stay long.

...dinner and all.

431 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:25:10pm

re: #404 Ojoe

We can't eat as much as we want? WTF? I have kids, I'll feed them thank you very much Mr. Obama.

*spit*

Seriously, how much exposure is this getting off the Internet?

432 WhiteRasta  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:25:13pm

re: #387 jcm

You raise an interesting point.

I have always thought that Greenpeace and similar organizations were inherently racist.

433 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:25:29pm

re: #431 MandyManners

Seriously, how much exposure is this getting off the Internet?

Anyone?

434 debutaunt  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:25:44pm

re: #418 LeePro

Congratulations to... he... ?

Arrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhh! ! !

Darned prepositions.

435 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:25:45pm

re: #423 Killgore Trout

Supernatural Graffiti....
Amazing face of Jesus


Miraculous!

Aliens left a monument on Mars to.

436 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:27:06pm
437 debutaunt  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:27:16pm

re: #420 jcm

He trotted out the old commie attack line, "6% of the worlds population consume 25% of the resources."

Algore and mmoore consume the vast majority of_________.

438 Scoreboard44  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:28:27pm

Hey dudes.

439 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:29:17pm

re: #435 jcm

Why doesn't anyone claim that's JC? It's a better likeness than the kitchen cabinet.

440 Tigger2005  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:30:06pm

Does Obama really think our eating less is going to keep anyone from starving? Does he really think we're taking food out of other people's mouths? "Hands off, poor person! That rice is mine!"

The world can produce more than enough food to meet the demand. You just have to let the free market DO it.

More people are starving because of biofuels than because of overeating Americans.

BTW Barry, I'm speaking as a 42 year old guy who drinks SlimFast twice a day and lost 30 lbs in the last three months.

441 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:30:45pm

re: #432 WhiteRasta

You raise an interesting point.

I have always thought that Greenpeace and similar organizations were inherently racist.

If you look at Kyoto and other "plans" they require the 3rd world to jump straight to next gen energy technologies. They can't use their own fossil resources to boot strap themselves up.

It's very classist which is functionally racist, we've got ours, to save the planet you can't get yours.

442 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:31:28pm

re: #439 Killgore Trout

Why doesn't anyone claim that's JC? It's a better likeness than the kitchen cabinet.

He came to save the world not Mars.
;-P

443 sngnsgt  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:31:37pm
"Can't I just eat as much waffle as I want to Sweetie'?"

Barry Obama

444 Scoreboard44  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:32:33pm

I eat nine grain bread.

Maybe I should not be so greedy and maybe eat like...seven or five grain bread.

445 LeePro  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:33:23pm

re: #404 Ojoe

We can't eat as much as we want? WTF? I have kids, I'll feed them thank you very much Mr. Obama.

*spit*

During a rally in Roseburg, Oregon, this past Saturday, Barack Obama proclaimed: "We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK."

Excuse me?!?!?!?!

I don't really give a flying fuck what other countries think!
And to compound what he just said, he added...

That's not leadership. ...

Excuse me2 ...?
Leadership is contingent on what other countries think?!?!?!

446 mich-again  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:33:37pm

The Democratic Reactor is approaching critical mass..

LA Times Blog: Geraldine Ferraro, calling Barack Obama "sexist," may not back him The commenters are getting awfully testy with each other.

Geraldine Ferraro is really making herself popular. She is part of the failed, pathetic, spineless, gravy-sucking Democratic Party of yesteryear.

and this one..

If ALL Hillary Clinton supporters WRITE HER IN, and there WILL BE A MASSIVE MOVEMENT to do this, SHE WILL OBLITERATE BOTH McCain and Obama.

This is the HRC supporters' NUCLEAR OPTION, and it will work, because most of us will ignore any attempt of Hillary's to rally us behind Obama WHEN ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS WRITE HER IN TO WIN.

447 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:33:41pm
448 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:33:43pm
449 nyc redneck  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:33:45pm

re: #289 Cognito

From the Dept. of Heinous Acts:

People in South Africa have a new hobby: Burning foreigners alive.

Rocks and fire. Nice.

i have a friend from cape town. he has talked abt. certain warring factions filling a car tire w/ gas, putting it around an enemies neck and then lighting it. they call it giving somebody a necklace.
pretty gruesome. i'd ask for a string or pearls, please.

450 Scoreboard44  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:33:47pm

Scoreboard 44 on post 444

Maybe I should eat four grain bread.

Save some for the other peeps.

451 WhiteRasta  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:34:52pm

re: #441 jcm

Exactly!

No one calls them on their racist card..

Let the Black People suffer malaria as long as we don't use DDT, etc.

No GM corn for Black People. etc, etc.

452 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:35:34pm
453 reine.de.tout  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:35:54pm

re: #369 Maximu§

I'm an engineer and the desired indoor Human comfort temperature is 75 F. You can bet the Obama's thermostat never goes above 72 F.

OOH, I'm in deep DouDou then - my summertime thermostat setting is 65 - but then, my wintertime thermostat setting is also 65, so maybe it all works out.

454 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:35:54pm
455 gop_patriot  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:36:02pm

re: #445 LeePro

Leadership is contingent on what other countries think?!?!?!

It boggles the mind.

456 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:36:23pm

re: #440 Tigger2005

Does Obama really think our eating less is going to keep anyone from starving? Does he really think we're taking food out of other people's mouths? "Hands off, poor person! That rice is mine!"

The world can produce more than enough food to meet the demand. You just have to let the free market DO it.

More people are starving because of biofuels than because of overeating Americans.

BTW Barry, I'm speaking as a 42 year old guy who drinks SlimFast twice a day and lost 30 lbs in the last three months.

Lack of food is almost universal a problem of government instability, not having the means to protect citizens property from planting to harvest. Or government induced famines, destroyed crops, denial of water etc... Zimbabwe is the current example, a net exporter is now in tough shape.

The old Soviet Union regularly had export quantity harvests. The crop would rot in the fields or transfer points for lack of labor and equipment. Resulting in shortage at the consumer level.

457 nyc redneck  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:36:57pm

re: #404 Ojoe

We can't eat as much as we want? WTF? I have kids, I'll feed them thank you very much Mr. Obama.

*spit*

lots of americans are over weight and happy to continue eating. i think this just lost osama the election.

458 WhiteRasta  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:37:08pm

re: #449 nyc redneck

Dear G-d! That's beyond horrific.......

459 sngnsgt  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:37:18pm

I'll have that DOUBLE WHOPPER too!

460 X-ray  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:37:34pm

Heck I can heat my house too 100 degrees in the winter and 50 degrees in the summer with less energy than Obama can at his standards.

461 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:37:55pm
462 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:38:15pm
463 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:38:24pm

re: #404 Ojoe

*spit* indeed.


"We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK."

When I need to get somewhere, I will drive whatever the hell I please to get their. This is America.

When I am hungry, I will eat whatever I damn well please, and as much of it as I damn well please. This is America.

When it's one-hundred and suck-arse degrees outside, I will set my thermostat to whatever number pleases me. This is America.

I will watch all the gory action films I wanna watch, read all the conservative blogs/books I wanna read, play as many violent video games I damn well please, watch as much porn as I damn well please, and if I feel like it, I will smoke enough cigarettes and drink enough beers to make a cardiologist faint. THIS IS AMERICA!

And, as an American, I am entitled to do whatever the fuck I want so long as it doesn't infringe on another American's constitutional rights.

And while I do the things that I do, I will do them not giving a flying fuck if you or "other countries" think it's OK.

464 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:38:34pm

re: #445 LeePro

Excuse me2 ...?
Leadership is contingent on what other countries think?!?!?!

It is when you're looking to lead us into a one world government.

465 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:38:55pm

re: #429 Render

M-16A4.

The A2 version has a full auto-capability that's rough on optics.

THREE
ROUND
BURST,
R

A4, thanks.

Rounds
on
Target
Count
J/

466 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:39:39pm
467 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:40:00pm

re: #463 Slumbering Behemoth

Getting awfully clingy SB!
/

468 nyc redneck  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:40:01pm

re: #458 WhiteRasta

Dear G-d! That's beyond horrific.......

yes.

469 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:41:09pm
470 LeePro  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:41:47pm

re: #440 Tigger2005

Does Obama really think our eating less is going to keep anyone from starving? Does he really think we're taking food out of other people's mouths? "Hands off, poor person! That rice is mine!"

The world can produce more than enough food to meet the demand. You just have to let the free market DO it.

More people are starving because of biofuels than because of overeating Americans.

BTW Barry, I'm speaking as a 42 year old guy who drinks SlimFast twice a day and lost 30 lbs in the last three months.

Well, I figger it must be like my grandmother kept telling me... "You eat every morsel on that plate, young lady... think of the poor starving children...!"

So I cleaned my plate... and the poor starving children are still here?!?!?!

471 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:42:37pm

re: #469 buzzsawmonkey

Look on the bright side, folks. South Africa's communist government has achieved the democratization of torture. It isn't just for security forces any more.

Now there's change!

472 nyc redneck  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:43:14pm

re: #466 savage_nation

Winnie Mandela was very fond of necklacing. I think that POS invented it, to be honest

she was a monster. arrested and charged w/ killing some teenage runaways to silence them regarding other charges against her. pos

473 LeePro  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:43:36pm

re: #444 Scoreboard44

I eat nine grain bread.

Maybe I should not be so greedy and maybe eat like...seven or five grain bread.

Yeah. Shame on you! It's the least you could do!

474 sngnsgt  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:43:58pm

Barry, I'll be as dumb, fat, and happy as I want to be. Keep your hands out of my refrigerator, off my thermostat, and your better than you and holier than thou self out of my life!

475 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:44:05pm

re: #467 jcm

You'll have to pry this mouse/game/smoke/beer/dirty magazine/steering wheel/greasy cheeseburger/thermostat from my cold, dead hands!

/that's how clingy I am

476 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:44:46pm
477 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:44:53pm
478 nyc redneck  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:45:14pm

re: #461 buzzsawmonkey

You are overly optimistic. 3/4 of the electorate will never hear of it; 3/4 of those who do will assume that it would never apply to them.

well maybe we can get this message out. people don't want some long legged skinny pimp telling them how much to eat.
sh*t.

479 rawmuse  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:45:31pm

re: #264 buzzsawmonkey

You could just hang the dessicated corpse of a chicken butchered according to Santeria rites on your front door like a wreath. It will probably keep unwanted callers at bay, and your friends will know and understand.

Always the easy way out...

480 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:45:57pm

re: #475 Slumbering Behemoth

You'll have to pry this mouse/game/smoke/beer/dirty magazine/steering wheel/greasy cheeseburger/thermostat from my cold, dead hands!

/that's how clingy I am

I'll take that as a NO vote for the Dali Bama.

481 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:45:57pm

re: #415 CyanSnowHawk

I believe it went something like this.

...I can always take off extra clothes...

With or without tequila?

482 LeePro  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:46:01pm

re: #448 song_and_dance_man

Another one

Ahhh, shit, S&DM!

You've found bin Laden!

483 eaglewingz08  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:46:18pm

Openthreadliness is next to Godliness!

You know what I haven't heard is whether now that we've seen the natural disasters in Myanmar(Burma) and China, where hundreds of thousands have died and millions more may die of starvation, doesn't Bush's 'incompetence' on Katrina, actually show that he handled the natural disaster of that magnitude pretty well considering the down side?

I mean if Bush was as bad as the libs claim, then we would have seen the suffering that is now present in China and Myanmar to pretty much the same degree. The fact that we don't, means that although Bush could have done better (couldn't that claim be made about anyone), didn't he do amazingly well under the circumstances given the magnitude of the disaster, when compared to the liberals' socialist paradises of Burma and China?

Just asking.

484 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:47:41pm
485 LeePro  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:47:50pm

re: #457 nyc redneck

lots of americans are over weight and happy to continue eating. i think this just lost osama the election.

HOPE!

486 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:48:28pm

re: #470 LeePro

Well, I figger it must be like my grandmother kept telling me... "You eat every morsel on that plate, young lady... think of the poor starving children...!"

So I cleaned my plate... and the poor starving children are still here?!?!?!

I used to get that same lecture about sober children in Japan.
/

Weird Al!

487 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:48:59pm

Oh Boy! Oh Boy! Just went to Barnes and Noble and bought Caliphate. I knew it was in Science Fiction, but made one of the Nobleites find it for me. Then, said that I had received a Barnes and Noble coupon just today (the truth) but had forgotten to bring it with me (the truth again) and the guy dug one out for me.

Got it for 21.42.

Making out to be a big deal, but what happened was, I got a shrug, he told me where he thought it was, and took me to it.

No moonbat story to tell. I really wanted a moonbat story to tell. REEEAAAAALLLLY wanted a moonbat story to tell.

Got friendly, courteous, helpful service. Allah be praised.

488 Noam Sayin'  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:49:48pm

re: #447 savage_nation

Fargo ND is the most boring city I have ever seen!

Hi kids

Were you there? I grew up just east of there.

And you're right.

489 tigerwoman  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:50:25pm

Here's an idea for BO. If he is so concerned about what other countries think, why don't we eat OUR food that is grown here in the USA and the other countries can stick to THEIR food. That bastard. I really am beginning to develop a serious dislike for this turd.

490 rightymouse  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:50:26pm

re: #470 LeePro

My mother told me to think of all the starving children in China when I didn't eat all my food. One time I was brave enough to tell her to go ahead and send my leftovers to them. Not sure I sat down comfortably for a week or so.

491 unclassifiable  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:50:28pm

re: #404 Ojoe

Look at the flip-side of that statement. In that rhetoric is the belief that there are enough people "living a good life" right now and that there just simply is not enough for any more.

Think about it. It bespeaks that we as human beings are at the end of our intelligence, our inventiveness, and our drive.

It is not a statement of hope.

It is the statement of someone who is afraid to be found wanting in their own contribution to mankind. And in that fear, they have concocted and end time story of which they alone have the solution which involves none of the traditional values of hard work, discipline, and intellectual advancement.

It is the rhetoric of a spoiled generation.

492 LeftJustAintRight  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:50:51pm

Obama /Carter 08 !
Make Change happen

493 wkett  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:51:19pm

Obama:
Half Honky
All Donkey

494 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:51:21pm

re: #483 eaglewingz08

Hadn't considered that. So, Nagin was the Burmese junta before hand, and was so ill prepared that the aftermath is awful.

Seriously, I pray often for these poor people. As I did following Katrina.

495 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:51:28pm
496 Ma Sands  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:51:46pm

re: #449 nyc redneck

There were two links up in the spinoffs earlier today.....one, of Obama's relative in Kenya saying the "youths" that did the rioting there a couple of months ago, should be given amnesty and released as they are merely languishing in prison; and the other, the same guy saying his country has turned a new page, and asking the British people to come and vacation in his country to help the economy......

That's the place where the churches people were taking refuge in, were burned down, people & all.....

497 LeePro  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:52:08pm

re: #464 MandyManners

It is when you're looking to lead us into a one world government.

Yup.
Why I posted that.

498 nyc redneck  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:52:19pm

re: #485 LeePro

HOPE!

well, if he's elected we'll get in shape because he will ration the food.
how intrusive is this assh*le?
wow, i guess he is a commie.

499 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:52:51pm

Hey Mandy, can you tell I had a day off? I am not good at days off.

500 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:53:27pm
501 doriangrey  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:53:39pm

The Hilton Hotel across the street from San Diego California's Petco Park exploded at 2:15 pm this afternoon, but CalOSHA determined, before even arriving that it was only a construction accident................. Yea right..........

502 LeftJustAintRight  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:53:41pm

re: #498 nyc redneck

well, if he's elected we'll get in shape because he will ration the food.
how intrusive is this assh*le?
wow, i guess he is a commie.

That is the least of our problems with him
Israel will suffer first

503 tigerwoman  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:54:44pm

#493 Haaaaa! That's funny!

504 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:54:50pm

re: #495 savage_nation

Im at the flying jihad at I29 and I94, right now.

I spent a night there at the Holiday Inn Express. Brace yourself...it was snowing.

No, I didn't feel any smarter.
(Pre-emptive shhhh!)

505 LeePro  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:55:15pm

re: #480 jcm

I'll take that as a NO vote for the Dali Bama.

Dali Bama...

That's a keeper!

506 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:55:32pm
507 rightymouse  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:55:55pm

re: #500 savage_nation

OMG! My mom did the same thing to her mother. Mom was 6 when WWII ended.

She got her ass blistered with a willow switch. ouch


Believe me. I think I would have preferred a willow switch. lol!

508 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:55:58pm
509 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:56:06pm

re: #506 savage_nation

LOL!
its 63 outside, shhhh

How far from Wall Drugs? The Corn Palace?

510 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:57:10pm

re: #480 jcm

I'll take that as a NO vote for the Dali Bama.

Ya got that right! I am morally opposed to nanny-statism regardless of which side of the aisle it comes from.

511 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:57:25pm

re: #500 savage_nation

My mom didn't use that one on me. I grew up in India and whatever we didn't eat could be quickly delivered to the poor without the speech.

512 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:57:55pm
513 Ma Sands  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:58:21pm

re: #511 Killgore Trout

Was it, though.....? And, were you the deliver-er.....? :)

514 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:58:24pm

re: #511 Killgore Trout

I used to tell my mom to name one.

She would make up a Chinese name...she was a sharp cookie.

515 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:59:18pm

re: #512 savage_nation

473 to Wall, 300 to Mitchell

The Corn Palace was the oddest thing I think I have ever seen. Nope. Not worth the trip.

516 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:59:19pm
517 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 19, 2008 4:59:33pm

re: #513 Ma Sands

Sure. It wasn't a big deal. They were always grateful.

518 rightymouse  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:00:01pm

re: #511 Killgore Trout

My mom didn't use that one on me. I grew up in India and whatever we didn't eat could be quickly delivered to the poor without the speech.


I grew up in Thailand. Why didn't she think of delivering to the poor in Bangkok?

519 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:00:41pm
520 Ma Sands  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:00:46pm

re: #517 Killgore Trout

How I wish I had that capability! That'd be so great! Can't ever find anyone around me who needs any food.....

521 rightymouse  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:00:48pm

re: #516 savage_nation

ooh boy!


She liked to use the back of a hair brush and for ANY bad words out of my mouth, it was Dial soap. lol!

522 bosforus  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:01:06pm

re: #447 savage_nation

Fargo ND is the most boring city I have ever seen!

Hi kids

howdy, savage

523 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:01:09pm

re: #519 buzzsawmonkey

I'm going to spray you with some maize!

524 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:01:38pm
525 LeePro  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:01:41pm

re: #498 nyc redneck

well, if he's elected we'll get in shape because he will ration the food.
how intrusive is this assh*le?
wow, i guess he is a commie.

I was agreeing with you...
HOPE he just lost the election!

526 nyc redneck  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:02:00pm

re: #502 LeftJustAintRight

That is the least of our problems with him
Israel will suffer first

of course they will. being overweight and having osama dictate our diets is the least of our problems. it just shows how nuts he is, across the board.

527 Alouette  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:02:21pm

re: #511 Killgore Trout

My mom didn't use that one on me. I grew up in India and whatever we didn't eat could be quickly delivered to the poor without the speech.

My mom used to tell me not to use up so much paper, because children in India have to write on their knees!

528 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:02:29pm

My wife is watching "Dancing with the Stars". I'm groaning now, but if someone tangos, I'll be up cheering! (slink away). Don't tell her I said that.

529 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:02:51pm
530 FishFearMe  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:03:16pm

Re: Winnie Mandela and "necklacing".

Didn't the Drug Lords in South America used to do that and call it a "Colombian Neck-tie"?

531 Racer X  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:03:21pm

re: #521 rightymouse

She liked to use the back of a hair brush and for ANY bad words out of my mouth, it was Dial soap. lol!

Yeeech. Dial. Zest was worse. I preferred the taste of Dove.

532 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:03:44pm
533 tonysdca  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:04:04pm

Saw it from my window!

534 doriangrey  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:04:13pm

Four floors of the Hilton were blown out 13 people injured and 5 critically...But be assured it was not an act of terrorism, the cause is completely unknown, but they know it was not terrorism......... Fucking asshole politicians.........

535 doriangrey  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:05:03pm

re: #533 tonysdca

Saw it from my window!

Saw what tonysdca? The Hilton blowing up?

536 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:05:07pm
537 Ma Sands  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:05:11pm

re: #447 savage_nation

Fargo ND is the most boring city I have ever seen!


Well that explains an old family mystery:

My uncle, who lived there, was traveling and fell asleep at the wheel......and merely woke up to find himself driving round and round in a field, none the worse for wear..... :)

538 Intrepid  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:05:22pm

re: #534 doriangrey

Four floors of the Hilton were blown out 13 people injured and 5 critically...But be assured it was not an act of terrorism, the cause is completely unknown, but they know it was not terrorism......... Fucking asshole politicians.........

Where was this and when?

539 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:06:05pm

re: #447 savage_nation

Fargo ND is the most boring city I have ever seen!

Hi kids

It might a boring city, savage, but what a GREAT movie by the Coen brothers!

540 Steve Young  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:06:29pm

re: #93 Kosh's Shadow

No, you don't want to warn the deer that someone's hunting for them.

The moose signs near us have the moose standing there and looking at the car, like the car can be stopped by its gaze.

Ahhhh...the Mighty Zionist Moose Gaze--very powerful!

541 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:06:37pm
542 rightymouse  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:06:53pm

re: #529 savage_nation

My mom waited for Dad to get home and we would get our asses smacked with his thick belt. He was a suit and tie man.


Mom never bothered waiting for Dad. He was a pussy-cat anyway. I only saw him get really, really mad once, in a physical way, and that was at my older brother. Otherwise, he would just holler.

543 nyc redneck  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:06:53pm

re: #496 Ma Sands

i know they need tourism now for their economies but i wouldn't go if i had a free ticket.

544 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:06:56pm

re: #527 Alouette

Ha! that's a new one.

545 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:07:08pm

Savage! Stay away from the wood chipper!

546 bosforus  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:07:17pm

re: #524 savage_nation

HI bos

How were curves of our sexy lookin'?

547 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:07:38pm
548 doriangrey  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:07:38pm

re: #536 buzzsawmonkey

What? Where? When?

re: #538 Intrepid

Where was this and when?

The San Diego Hilton Hotel, across the street from Petco Park in San Diego California, at 2:15 pm this afternoon... But be assured it was not an act of terrorism, the cause is completely unknown, but they know it was not terrorism......... Fucking asshole politicians.........

549 bosforus  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:07:40pm

re: #546 bosforus

How were curves of our sexy lookin'?

sexy earth lookin'
oopsie

550 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:07:45pm

re: #490 rightymouse

My mother told me to think of all the starving children in China when I didn't eat all my food. One time I was brave enough to tell her to go ahead and send my leftovers to them. Not sure I sat down comfortably for a week or so.

I guess my mom had it easy with me. I ate whatever she put in front of me, even the stuff I didn't really like, and I never made a fuss. Being broke has that affect on you.

There was one (only one) exception though, liver. I didn't make a fuss, I didn't get ugly, I just refused to eat it. She told me I could go straight to bed without any supper. When she saw how fast I did exactly that, she could tell I wasn't just trying to be a snot.

I know there are many people who like it, but I find liver to be repentantly offensive to all five senses. If I had ESP, it would probably give me a headache as well.

551 rightymouse  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:07:53pm

re: #531 Racer X

Yeeech. Dial. Zest was worse. I preferred the taste of Dove.

I refuse to buy Dial or Zest for the home.

Dove is good. We use Jergens.

552 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:08:02pm
553 nyc redneck  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:08:06pm

re: #537 Ma Sands

Well that explains an old family mystery:

My uncle, who lived there, was traveling and fell asleep at the wheel......and merely woke up to find himself driving round and round in a field, none the worse for wear..... :)

LOL, you need to put that scene in a screen play.

554 Ojoe  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:08:16pm

re: #491 unclassifiable

It shows a HUGE lack of faith, as if God did not love us and that we would not live well if we did not follow His rules.

I am thunderstruck by this Obama and the people who fawn after him.

555 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:08:20pm

re: #547 savage_nation

You know, I have yet to see that flick. Pretty good?

You're serious?

556 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:08:26pm
557 Ma Sands  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:09:12pm

re: #543 nyc redneck

Yes. This young lady I know, was trying to get up a group, right in the worst time, to go and give compassion..... ): I asked, do you know what you'd be walking into, and she affirmed it --but then, the "urge" kind of died out.....they've not gone.......yet....

558 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:09:22pm
559 beblebrox  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:10:03pm

re: #500 savage_nation

OMG! My mom did the same thing to her mother. Mom was 6 when WWII ended.

She got her ass blistered with a willow switch. ouch

i told my mom the same thing. told her if there were children starving in china to please send it to them. it didn't go over that well but eventually the overall house policy became you only eat when you are hungry snd you quit when you are full. there was no obligation to eat something simply because it was put in front of you.

560 bosforus  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:10:26pm

re: #556 savage_nation

OH! They were fab!

I like big women. They don't get much bigger than earth.

561 nyc redneck  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:10:30pm

re: #530 FishFearMe

Re: Winnie Mandela and "necklacing".

Didn't the Drug Lords in South America used to do that and call it a "Colombian Neck-tie"?

a colombian neck tie was not a south african necklace. but it was just as horrifying.

562 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:10:46pm
563 sngnsgt  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:11:07pm

Dallas vs. Detriot starting on Versus, Red Wings lead series 3-2

564 Intrepid  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:11:20pm

re: #548 doriangrey

The San Diego Hilton Hotel, across the street from Petco Park in San Diego California, at 2:15 pm this afternoon... But be assured it was not an act of terrorism, the cause is completely unknown, but they know it was not terrorism......... Fucking asshole politicians.........

If "the cause is completely unknown", how the hell do they know it wasn't terrorism? That's idiotic!

565 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:11:39pm

re: #558 savage_nation

Please put it on your list. Frances McDormand alone is worth the two hours. Great Cast! Great Script! Bill Macy is great in it too.

566 Tangonine  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:11:40pm

so I'm wathcing obama spew his bs on c-span.

He says you can join the peace corps, the legion of chicken humpers, the group of lesbians for change; and get a free college education.

The single, solitary group that he doesn't mention is the military. Apparently, that sort of "service" doesn't merit the "hussein-benefits"

funny how that works.

567 lobo91  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:11:41pm

re: #530 FishFearMe

Re: Winnie Mandela and "necklacing".

Didn't the Drug Lords in South America used to do that and call it a "Colombian Neck-tie"?

I believe a Colombian necktie involves cutting the victim's throat and pulling his tongue out through the opening.

568 So?  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:11:52pm

Scientists have been given the go ahead to mix human and animal embryos. I think it's sick and disgusting. Man is literally playing with pandemic. One mistake...one unknown virus, one unknown bacteria...and it's bye bye humanity.

Please don't tell me that the scientists will have everything under control. Just look at the dozen of pharmeceuticals that were pulled over the past decade. They left a trail of death and destruction while the pharmas made $$$billions. And each drug supposedly goes thru 10 years of trials before it hits the marketplace...yeah...all trials are done by pharma scientists...not non-partial scientists.

569 LeePro  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:12:03pm

re: #529 savage_nation

My mom waited for Dad to get home and we would get our asses smacked with his thick belt. He was a suit and tie man.

We got the hairbrush, AND the belt, AND a thin wooden ruler!

/oh, yeah, and the fly-swatter, and sometimes the ping-pong paddle!

570 Ma Sands  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:12:37pm

re: #564 Intrepid

What it really means is, we're not telling, until we've got more information and figure out how to best deliver it to the public.....

571 doriangrey  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:13:04pm

re: #564 Intrepid

If "the cause is completely unknown", how the hell do they know it wasn't terrorism? That's idiotic!

They are psychic... Besides there is a Padre game in a couple of hours... Wouldn't want the fans to stay home and have to cancel the game, cant have the loss of a couple million dollars dont ya know...

572 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:13:06pm

re: #569 LeePro

Once I got a razor strop!

573 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:13:08pm

Hamas is at their fake truce stuff again.

First, Olmert skeptical of cease-fire, but going along for Mubarak

Israel is skeptical that a cease-fire with Hamas will be reached and, therefore, the IDF is preparing for a large-scale military operation in the Gaza Strip, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has said in recent closed-door meetings while adding that he is letting the process play out in order to show respect for the Egyptian leadership.

Good thing they're preparing, because 'Truce doesn't mean end of resistance'

As for freeing Shalit, Hamas says forget it:

Referring to the case of kidnapped IDF Cpl. Gilad Schalit, the Hamas official said his movement would not "succumb" to Israel's demand that the issue be part of any truce deal.

"We won't surrender to Israeli extortion," he added. "Hamas is different from the other Palestinian parties, which are used to making free concessions to Israel."

Funny, I haven't heard of any Palestinan party making any form of concession to Israel, short of not destroying Israel right now (because they're too weak)

I'm sure Jimmy Carter and B. Hussein Obama are ready to negotiate with Hamas, without preconditions, though.

574 Yankee Division Son  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:14:02pm

re: #566 Tangonine

so I'm wathcing obama spew his bs on c-span.

He says you can join the peace corps, the legion of chicken humpers, the group of lesbians for change; and get a free college education.

The single, solitary group that he doesn't mention is the military. Apparently, that sort of "service" doesn't merit the "hussein-benefits"

funny how that works.

appeasement and surrender doesn't require allot of troops.

575 gettinby  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:14:24pm

re: #569 LeePro

We got the hairbrush, AND the belt, AND a thin wooden ruler!

/oh, yeah, and the fly-swatter, and sometimes the ping-pong paddle!

Coat-hangar.

/haven't spoken to my mother in 50 years as a result. :)

576 rightymouse  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:14:33pm

re: #550 Slumbering Behemoth

I guess my mom had it easy with me. I ate whatever she put in front of me, even the stuff I didn't really like, and I never made a fuss. Being broke has that affect on you.

There was one (only one) exception though, liver. I didn't make a fuss, I didn't get ugly, I just refused to eat it. She told me I could go straight to bed without any supper. When she saw how fast I did exactly that, she could tell I wasn't just trying to be a snot.

I know there are many people who like it, but I find liver to be repentantly offensive to all five senses. If I had ESP, it would probably give me a headache as well.

I love liver.

And I was always a good eater. It was just some things when I was young - porridge would make me sick to my stomach and Mom made me eat it every morning before school - that's what our fight was about - freaking oatmeal that was like snot going down the back of my throat. The other one was tomato soup. Too acidic or something. It made me throw up.

577 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:15:32pm

re: #547 savage_nation

You know, I have yet to see that flick. Pretty good?

Like FBV said, great acting throughout. Steve Bushemi is so great in it.

578 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:15:48pm

re: #548 doriangrey

The San Diego Hilton Hotel, across the street from Petco Park in San Diego California, at 2:15 pm this afternoon... But be assured it was not an act of terrorism, the cause is completely unknown, but they know it was not terrorism......... Fucking asshole politicians.........

Well, it was under construction, not occupied. It seems to me terrorists usually go after a more densely-populated target.
On the other hand, a truck with ATF markings was on the scene.
Maybe terrorists were trying to set up bombs in the building while it was under construction, and they had a work accident.

579 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:15:59pm
580 rightymouse  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:16:05pm

re: #547 savage_nation


'Fargo' is very well done. Lots of 'eff' words if you can overlook those. But otherwise, it's a 'must see' movie.

581 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:16:11pm

re: #576 rightymouse

A pinch of sugar totally neutralizes the acidic quality of Tomato Soup. It is delicious. But without it, it tears me up too.

582 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:16:42pm

re: #579 savage_nation

Don't read up on it or anything. Just watch it. Pretty violent, but great!

583 nyc redneck  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:16:51pm

nobody had to beat us to eat. hell, most of the time we were hungry.

584 doriangrey  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:17:29pm

re: #578 Kosh's Shadow

Well, it was under construction, not occupied. It seems to me terrorists usually go after a more densely-populated target.
On the other hand, a truck with ATF markings was on the scene.
Maybe terrorists were trying to set up bombs in the building while it was under construction, and they had a work accident.

Helloieeee........................................ .......... Petco Park (Padre Stadium) directly across the street............. Padre game in a couple of hours.................... You were saying?

585 Racer X  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:17:58pm

Thirteen injured in San Diego explosion

Five people were critically injured this afternoon in an explosion at a high-rise Hilton Hotel under construction on the San Diego waterfront. Eight others needed treatment, the San Diego Fire Department said. Officials were not yet certain of the cause but said it may have been a gas leak.

The incident occurred about 2:15 on Harbor Drive next to the convention center and near the Petco Park baseball stadium.

Four floors of the hotel were damaged at one corner, with some windows and metal railings destroyed.

Dozens of police and fire vehicles and ambulances raced to the scene. Police said the explosion may have taken place in a room with mechanical equipment such as heating and air-conditioning units.

The injured were believed to be construction workers.


Chill. This does not appear to be a splodeydope.

586 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:18:05pm
587 lobo91  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:18:14pm

re: #574 Yankee Division Son

appeasement and surrender doesn't require allot of troops.

God, I hope that ass doesn't become president.

I just got promoted, so I have to stay in another 3 years in order to retire at my current grade. I really don't want his signature on my retirement certificate.

588 beblebrox  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:18:14pm

re: #576 rightymouse

I love liver.

And I was always a good eater. It was just some things when I was young - porridge would make me sick to my stomach and Mom made me eat it every morning before school - that's what our fight was about - freaking oatmeal that was like snot going down the back of my throat. The other one was tomato soup. Too acidic or something. It made me throw up.

ugh! liver! overall in my home growing up it was decided the only foods that would be prepared would be things we all agreed we liked. if you wanted something other than that, go make it yourself.

589 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:18:23pm

re: #576 rightymouse

I love liver.

And I was always a good eater. It was just some things when I was young - porridge would make me sick to my stomach and Mom made me eat it every morning before school - that's what our fight was about - freaking oatmeal that was like snot going down the back of my throat. The other one was tomato soup. Too acidic or something. It made me throw up.

I was in a boarding school the year I had mumps. The house mother feed me onion soup. Those big loops of onions just turned me off. She made me eat it eat. Eating something you don't like when feeling like crap tends to leave a mark.

I couldn't eat anything with visible onions for years afterwards.

590 doriangrey  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:19:03pm

re: #585 Racer X

Thirteen injured in San Diego explosion


Chill. This does not appear to be a splodeydope.

Helloieeee.............................. .................... Petco Park (Padre Stadium) directly across the street............. Padre game in a couple of hours.................... You were saying?

591 Intrepid  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:19:10pm

re: #579 savage_nation

OK, I will. I dont even know what the movie is about...

You know anyone from Minnesota or Northern Wisconsin? That helps. It's dry, and funny as heck.

592 Lucius Septimius  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:19:11pm

I get here just in time for real thread, and I'm in no mood for seriousity.

How's everyone this fine (albeit warm) evening?

593 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:19:41pm

re: #579 savage_nation

OK, I will. I dont even know what the movie is about...

Fargo

594 Ma Sands  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:20:03pm

re: #583 nyc redneck

Wish you'a lived near me; woulda loved to share with you --me and my kids always had enough to eat, even if sometimes it was only an old box of Cheerios & a can of cherry pie filling....... :)

595 doriangrey  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:20:07pm

re: #586 savage_nation

Dad loved to take that belt off, double it up in his hand and pull it tight. Made a SMACK! We knew we were in deep shit then...

Oh the memories........................... Shit I was hoping they were gone..........

596 Nevergiveup  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:20:10pm

re: #587 lobo91

God, I hope that ass doesn't become president.

I just got promoted, so I have to stay in another 3 years in order to retire at my current grade. I really don't want his signature on my retirement certificate.

Just seeing his face on the chain of command board will turn my stomach!

597 rightymouse  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:20:23pm

re: #581 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

A pinch of sugar totally neutralizes the acidic quality of Tomato Soup. It is delicious. But without it, it tears me up too.

Cream does the trick too. Funny thing is, I can eat spaghetti sauce with no problem. I guess it's the other stuff (and sugar as you point out) in it.

598 beblebrox  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:20:25pm

for the most part, though, eating has been somewhat of a chore to me. it is an interruption from whatever i was doing. and i have always wanted to get it out of the way as quickly as possible to get back to whatever i was doing beforehand.

599 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:20:28pm

Never went hungry. But one of six kids. Got home late from playing once, missed dinner, and there was a bunch of country fried steak left over. Whoo Hoo...grabbed a piece and bit into it...Liver.

There was never meat left over at my house growing up. Should have known better.

I think that was the first moment I ever considered going vegetarian. I was about 10 years old.

600 reine.de.tout  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:20:39pm

re: #569 LeePro

We got the hairbrush, AND the belt, AND a thin wooden ruler!

/oh, yeah, and the fly-swatter, and sometimes the ping-pong paddle!

And . . . was that after you walked 5 miles uphill in the snow from school to home

601 Racer X  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:20:41pm

re: #590 doriangrey

Take a deep breath.

602 BignJames  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:20:47pm

re: #588 beblebrox

Liver...makes me quiver.....really.

603 LeePro  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:21:19pm

re: #550 Slumbering Behemoth

...but I find liver to be repentantly offensive to all five senses.

Liver that is very, very sorry...

604 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:21:24pm

re: #536 buzzsawmonkey

What? Where? When?

Hilton Hotel near Downtown San Diego, Today at about 3PM.

From the San Diego Union Tribune website SignOnSanDiego

SAN DIEGO – At least 13 construction workers were injured Monday afternoon, five of them critically, following an explosion at a hotel being built downtown near the San Diego Convention Center.

The blast occurred on the lower floors of the Hilton Hotel shortly after 2 p.m.

A San Diego police spokesman said the explosion apparently occurred in a mechanical room of the hotel, on Harbor Drive near Eighth Avenue.

Authorities said there were no indications the blast had been triggered deliberately.

One worker said a boiler in the hotel exploded, a claim that could not be immediately verified.

continue

605 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:21:56pm

re: #579 savage_nation

We did what your family did last night- Chinese buffet for dinner tonight. I was shocked. The kids wanted to go to Mickey D's, but I suggested Bamboo Garden. They actually said they'd rather go there! And Bamboo has all you can eat crab legs for $8.99! Great idea, dude!

606 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:22:07pm

re: #593 jcm

Fargo

NOOOO savage, don't read it. Just wait and watch it cold! (no pun intended)

607 rightymouse  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:22:12pm

re: #588 beblebrox

ugh! liver! overall in my home growing up it was decided the only foods that would be prepared would be things we all agreed we liked. if you wanted something other than that, go make it yourself.

If it's not fresh and cooked right, it can be awful. But I learned to like it.

Still hate eel to this day, though. lol!

608 lobo91  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:22:13pm

re: #596 Nevergiveup

Just seeing his face on the chain of command board will turn my stomach!

Ugh! I didn't even think of that...

609 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:22:29pm

re: #584 doriangrey

Helloieeee.............................. .................... Petco Park (Padre Stadium) directly across the street............. Padre game in a couple of hours.................... You were saying?

OK, that part didn't connect. I thought "Petco Park" was a place that you might take a nice walk with your dogs; I don't pay that much attention to sports (except for Boston teams) so I didn't recognize the name.

It would be fairly easy to smuggle in rocket launchers in pipes into a construction site. Add some illegal aliens on the construction job, and an attack makes a lot of sense.
The media is really downplaying this. I don't see it on MSNBC front page, but I do on the Boston Globe.

610 Intrepid  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:22:48pm

re: #589 jcm

I was in a boarding school the year I had mumps. The house mother feed me onion soup. Those big loops of onions just turned me off. She made me eat it eat. Eating something you don't like when feeling like crap tends to leave a mark.

I couldn't eat anything with visible onions for years afterwards.

I had a stomach virus just after eating a bunch of Triscuits once - still can't stand the sight or smell of 'em, and that was 35 years ago.

611 doriangrey  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:22:59pm

re: #601 Racer X

Take a deep breath.

Fuck taking a deep breath, there have been like three other bombings here in the last six months......... CalOSHA claimed it was an accident before they even got on site. San Diego is border town... No sorry fuck taking a deep breath................

612 nyc redneck  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:23:01pm

re: #592 Lucius Septimius

I get here just in time for real thread, and I'm in no mood for seriousity.

How's everyone this fine (albeit warm) evening?

we're so wonderful. just reminiscing abt. getting beaten, as children, for not eating everything on our plates. (doesn't include me, i was always happy to get a meal)

613 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:23:05pm
614 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:23:45pm

re: #585 Racer X

Your article didn't include this paragraph from this article:

The site was surrounded by firefighters and utility crews, and a truck with the markings of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives arrived.
615 wii42  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:23:54pm

Hi all -

I've got this Perl script that, if it's useful to anyone else in the world, they're someone hanging out here.

(It's changed from the last time - this version adds an index to the comments.)

You can run the html source of an LGF comment thru it and get an html page you can pull up locally in your browser that puts the comments into a tree structure.

I've found it useful for looking at long threads. Mostly it was fun just coding it. DIY instructions are at this link:
lgftree.html

Example of this AM's open thread run thru the script is at this link:
lgf30006.html


nb - last time the hosting service went down - if it does that again check back later, the link will be there for a while.

616 rightymouse  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:24:18pm

re: #589 jcm


I was in a boarding school the year I had mumps. The house mother feed me onion soup. Those big loops of onions just turned me off. She made me eat it eat. Eating something you don't like when feeling like crap tends to leave a mark.

I couldn't eat anything with visible onions for years afterwards.

Amazing what we remember about food from our youth. I can certainly see how that would make you go green after the experience.

617 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:24:25pm

LUCIUS!

618 nyc redneck  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:25:12pm

re: #594 Ma Sands

Wish you'a lived near me; woulda loved to share with you --me and my kids always had enough to eat, even if sometimes it was only an old box of Cheerios & a can of cherry pie filling....... :)

grampa could work a veritable miracle w/ a can of cherry pie filling and a box of graham crackers.

619 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:26:35pm
620 doriangrey  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:27:09pm

re: #614 Kosh's Shadow

Your article didn't include this paragraph from this article:

And CalOSHA claimed it was an accident before they even got on site..... Cant allow a explosion to deprive San Diego of millions of dollars of revenue from the Game... Which will go on.....................................

621 DistantThunder  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:27:16pm

re: #454 buzzsawmonkey

Don't forget the people starving and dying through lack of medical care in Burma because their lunatic junta won't let relief workers in.

If the UN had any credibility, and any balls, it would land a food-and-medical relief party protected by blue-helmet troops with orders to shoot down any of the Myanmorons who got in the way of the relief effort.

What does the dialogue sound like with Obama and a genocidal ruler?

O: Don't do that.

GR: Make me.

O: I'm warning you or I'll

GR: You'll what?


O: uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

622 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:27:17pm

re: #603 LeePro

Liver that is very, very sorry...

Oh, that made me laugh. Nice catch, it was supposed to be repellently , but the spell checker betrayed me.

...last time I trust that good fer nuthin' thing to understand what I'm trying to say...:grumblegrumble:

623 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:27:41pm

re: #613 savage_nation

Chinese is always a good idea. Lot better for you than a damn McDonalds meal.

Not if you listen to Center for Science in the Public Interest.

WASHINGTON - The typical Chinese restaurant menu is a sea of nutritional no-nos, a consumer group has found.
624 gettinby  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:27:49pm

re: #615 wii42

Hi all -

I've got this Perl script that, if it's useful to anyone else in the world, they're someone hanging out here.

(It's changed from the last time - this version adds an index to the comments.)

You can run the html source of an LGF comment thru it and get an html page you can pull up locally in your browser that puts the comments into a tree structure.

I've found it useful for looking at long threads. Mostly it was fun just coding it. DIY instructions are at this link:
lgftree.html

Example of this AM's open thread run thru the script is at this link:
lgf30006.html


nb - last time the hosting service went down - if it does that again check back later, the link will be there for a while.

[clunk]

Wha'...?

625 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:28:03pm

re: #268 yochanan

WE HAVE PLENTY OF DEER IN C(R)OOK COUNTRY WOULD EXPLAIN THE COUGAR (FOUR LEGGED KIND) THEY SHOT WITH IN WALKING DISTANCE OF THE LOUP (DOWN TOWN CHICAGO)

You haven't lived until you have a cougar with paws six inches across and seven feet from head to tail in your front yard, and looking at you intently from about 20 feet away.

More deer culling, please.

626 Yankee Division Son  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:29:08pm

re: #587 lobo91

God, I hope that ass doesn't become president.

I just got promoted, so I have to stay in another 3 years in order to retire at my current grade. I really don't want his signature on my retirement certificate.

You and me both...

627 Lucius Septimius  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:29:29pm

re: #612 nyc redneck

We had a sort of odd dinner tonight -- went to cook and we really didn't have enough of anything in particular to make a meal, so it ended up sort of eclectic.

Rule of thumb: if you are lacking the right ingredients and have to make a strange substitution, just call if "fusion."

As to food as a kid, I recall a thin patch in our family finances where we ate a lot of creamed chip beef on toast as well as some other God-awful stewed tomato, corn, hard-boiled egg, and olive concoction on toast. The mere thought of the latter gives me the dry heaves.

re: #617 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

LUCIUS!

c'est moi!

628 rightymouse  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:29:52pm

re: #618 nyc redneck

grampa could work a veritable miracle w/ a can of cherry pie filling and a box of graham crackers.

That sounds good!

We always dreaded coming to the States on home leave which was every 4 or 5 years because Mom had to cook. She was from Boston so everything was cooked or boiled to death. And she thought that Spam had all the daily nutrients for kids.

629 LeePro  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:30:00pm

re: #600 reine.de.tout

And . . . was that after you walked 5 miles uphill in the snow from school to home

Sorry, reine. Not bullshit. Got the scars to prove it.

630 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:30:03pm
631 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:30:05pm

re: #550 Slumbering Behemoth

I guess my mom had it easy with me. I ate whatever she put in front of me, even the stuff I didn't really like, and I never made a fuss. Being broke has that affect on you.

There was one (only one) exception though, liver. I didn't make a fuss, I didn't get ugly, I just refused to eat it. She told me I could go straight to bed without any supper. When she saw how fast I did exactly that, she could tell I wasn't just trying to be a snot.

I know there are many people who like it, but I find liver to be repentantly offensive to all five senses. If I had ESP, it would probably give me a headache as well.

Poor thing--I know live is a hate it or love it food.

Liver, dipped in flour and panfried in bacon grease, with sauted onions--YUM!

632 Ma Sands  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:30:06pm

re: #618 nyc redneck

Oh, I loved our meals when we got down to the bottom of the cupboard.....so did the kids --the meals got quite interesting....an adventure..... :)

633 Lucius Septimius  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:30:33pm

re: #619 savage_nation

My grandfather used to make mock apple pie with Ritz crackers.

I seem to recall a dead thread debate about that dish -- there were those (mostly the under 40 crowd IIRC) who denied its existence.

634 doriangrey  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:31:50pm

Breaking news..... My nephew has just determined, based upon the complicated nature of the debris, that the Hilton Hotel explosion was.... A weather balloon, which accidentally exploded as a result of Santa Anna winds which blew through San Diego several months ago..........Case closed...............

635 Lucius Septimius  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:32:00pm

Ultimate comfort food for me is a mess of potatoes fried up in butter with onions and lots of salt and black pepper, served with some kind of sausage and a bunch of hot mustard. Deeeeelishh!

636 Ma Sands  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:32:30pm

re: #634 doriangrey

Oh. :)

637 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:32:31pm
638 Lucius Septimius  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:32:57pm

re: #631 goddessoftheclassroom

How much more school do you have?

Our oldest was pretty pissed today when he discovered that being home-schooled meant no meaningful summer vacation.

639 Lucius Septimius  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:33:29pm

re: #637 savage_nation

Any Ritz Cracker box has that recipe on it.

Still? I haven't seen a Ritz cracker since Moby Dick was a minnow. Just not the sort of thing the wife buys.

640 Ma Sands  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:33:57pm

re: #635 Lucius Septimius

Well, that does it --I've been staving off the hunger just to talk here with all you nice people......but you've made me drool...... :)

641 doriangrey  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:34:00pm

re: #636 Ma Sands

Oh. :)

Hey what can I say..... You cant argue with the weather balloon explanation....................

642 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:34:01pm

re: #625 really grumpy big dog Johnson

They're that big? Dayam!

643 beblebrox  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:34:05pm

re: #631 goddessoftheclassroom

hi GOTC! just a quick note to say i remember your home crisis last year and just wanted to say the same situation just began for me a week ago.

644 rightymouse  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:34:53pm

re: #631 goddessoftheclassroom

Liver, dipped in flour and panfried in bacon grease, with sauted onions--YUM!

**drool**

With mashed potatoes and gravy too. :)

645 jcm  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:35:15pm

re: #630 savage_nation

Good, I'll have double helpings of egg foo young next trip. And more bbq ribs! And sweet and sour pork!

Center for Science in the Public Interest wouldn't know science if it hit them between the eyes.

646 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:35:56pm

re: #638 Lucius Septimius

How much more school do you have?

Our oldest was pretty pissed today when he discovered that being home-schooled meant no meaningful summer vacation.

Two more weeks. I'm actually sad about the year ending. I love my kids.

647 Racer X  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:36:44pm

re: #615 wii42

Very interesting.

648 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:37:14pm
649 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:37:30pm

Ever had one of those nights where you just want to respond to everything? This is one of those nights. Sorry. I'll try to dial down the enthusiasm a bit.

650 LeePro  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:37:47pm

re: #631 goddessoftheclassroom

Poor thing--I know live is a hate it or love it food.

Liver, dipped in flour and panfried in bacon grease, with sauted onions--YUM!

Oooooooooooooo, YEAH! ! !
MUST be calves' liver, though. Otherwise way too tough and chewy.

651 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:38:23pm

re: #650 LeePro

Oooooooooooooo, YEAH! ! !
MUST be calves' liver, though. Otherwise way too tough and chewy.

Aw crap!

652 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:38:27pm
653 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:39:34pm

re: #643 beblebrox

hi GOTC! just a quick note to say i remember your home crisis last year and just wanted to say the same situation just began for me a week ago.

(beblebox)

I am so sorry for your pain. Do what you must to be at peace with yourself, but also know that sometimes free will means that the other person can choose what is wrong, and it's not your fault.

I do not mean to pry, but feel free to share as you need to. I will be glad to listen (well,. read--you know what I mean.)

Would you like me to add you to the prayer list in a general way?

654 LeePro  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:40:16pm

re: #639 Lucius Septimius

Still? I haven't seen a Ritz cracker since Moby Dick was a minnow. Just not the sort of thing the wife buys.

...the wife? ? ?

What's keepin' you from takin' yer lazy ass to the store? ? ?

655 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:40:17pm

re: #631 goddessoftheclassroom

Poor thing--I know liver is a hate it or love it food.

Liver, or any other organ food, is the only thing I refuse to eat*, with the exception being chorrizo.

Actually, I feel pretty lucky. I know some people who are deathly allergic to this or that, and one guy who is deathly allergic to just about every kind of fruits or vegetables there are. I have no food allergies that I know of.

*Oops, I have to amend that. I also won't eat shellfish (crab, lobster, etc.). That was never an issue growing up, though, since we couldn't afford that kind of fancy stuff.

656 rightymouse  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:40:50pm

When my parents were first married and still in college, Mom decided to prove herself as a thrifty wife and fried up some cheap horse-meat.

Dad hollered.

She never did that again. lol!

657 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:41:08pm

re: #650 LeePro

Oooooooooooooo, YEAH! ! !
MUST be calves' liver, though. Otherwise way too tough and chewy.

ABSOLUTELY!

And I forgot a step--dip the live in milk first, then the flour.

I never understood the funny looks my friends gave me when I said I love liver!

658 LeePro  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:41:30pm

re: #644 rightymouse

**drool**

With mashed potatoes and gravy too. :)

OMG, you're killing me! !

659 gettinby  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:41:39pm

re: #649 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ever had one of those nights where you just want to respond to everything? This is one of those nights. Sorry. I'll try to dial down the enthusiasm a bit.

Don't you dare!

Enthusiasm goes with everything!

Food, relationships, jobs, sex, conversation, posting, sex, food, driving, just EVERYTHING!

660 Tangonine  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:41:43pm

so I'm watching barrack obama field questions from 10 year olds and whackos that proclaim to have solved the "alien problem"


is this **** for real?

661 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:42:07pm

re: #633 Lucius Septimius

I seem to recall a dead thread debate about that dish -- there were those (mostly the under 40 crowd IIRC) who denied its existence.

What?!? That's ridiculous, the recipe is right on the friggin' box!

662 Tangonine  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:43:05pm

...and his answer to both the 10 year old and the alien whacko is:

I'll raise taxes.

wtf?

663 nyc redneck  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:43:23pm

re: #619 savage_nation

My grandfather used to make mock apple pie with Ritz crackers.

and sometimes at night when we listened to the ball game on the radio, he'd give me a little glass of whiskey (mostly water and sugar).
and velveeta on saltines.

664 Lucius Septimius  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:44:01pm

re: #654 LeePro

...the wife? ? ?

What's keepin' you from takin' yer lazy ass to the store? ? ?

She doesn't allow me to go shopping -- it's usually a bad idea to let me loose in a grocery store when we're on a budget.

665 Lucius Septimius  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:44:27pm

re: #661 Slumbering Behemoth

I seem to recall a dead thread debate about that dish -- there were those (mostly the under 40 crowd IIRC) who denied its existence.

What?!? That's ridiculous, the recipe is right on the friggin' box!

Maybe so, but there were those who were incredulous.

666 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:44:32pm

re: #659 gettinby

Aren't you sweet.

667 beblebrox  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:44:40pm

re: #653 goddessoftheclassroom

(beblebox)

I am so sorry for your pain. Do what you must to be at peace with yourself, but also know that sometimes free will means that the other person can choose what is wrong, and it's not your fault.

I do not mean to pry, but feel free to share as you need to. I will be glad to listen (well,. read--you know what I mean.)

Would you like me to add you to the prayer list in a general way?

sure. I'd appreciate it. i'm not the most religious person but knowing that people are thinking of me means a lot right now.

suffice it to sayi received incontrovertible proof that my wife of 12years, the center of my life for 19, was sleeping with, and is most likely pregnant with, my "best friend's" child.

668 rightymouse  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:44:45pm

re: #658 LeePro

OMG, you're killing me! !


Had some liver with the fixings the other night at a restaurant. My son was grossing out. Hubby told him that it was comfort food. Son said he'd prefer to live for the rest of his days without that kind of comfort. lol!

669 Lucius Septimius  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:45:39pm

re: #663 nyc redneck

Mmmmm. Saltines.

One of my favorite snacks as a kid was to smush down marshmellows and make sandwiches with them on saltines. Don't knock it until you've tried it. Best washed down with Mountain Dew.

670 doriangrey  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:46:35pm

Hey.... My nephew just had an idea for an awesome movie.... Possibly one of the most awesome movies ever made.... The disappearance of Micheal Moore... How the government made Micheal Moore disappear because he was getting to close to the truth about... Well something.... Never mind the fact that Micheal Moore hasn't disappeared, better yet that Micheal Moore is screaming that he hasn't disappeared.... Awesome movie plot.... who wants to finance it?

671 Ojoe  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:47:03pm

Food, glorious food
Food

672 nyc redneck  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:48:08pm

re: #669 Lucius Septimius

Mmmmm. Saltines.

One of my favorite snacks as a kid was to smush down marshmellows and make sandwiches with them on saltines. Don't knock it until you've tried it. Best washed down with Mountain Dew.

i won't knock anything on saltines. including peanut butter and strawberry jam. (milk, if you've got it)

673 Ojoe  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:48:42pm

"Go hungry, America"

— Obama

674 Lucius Septimius  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:49:15pm

re: #667 beblebrox

My heart goes out to you, my friend.

That happened to my dad; he remarried and I'm the result.

675 doriangrey  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:49:45pm

re: #667 beblebrox

sure. I'd appreciate it. i'm not the most religious person but knowing that people are thinking of me means a lot right now.

suffice it to sayi received incontrovertible proof that my wife of 12years, the center of my life for 19, was sleeping with, and is most likely pregnant with, my "best friend's" child.

First, my condolences on your situation, that sucks.... Second... GOTCR gets results with her prayers... So unless you want results dont ask her to put you on her prayer list... Third... The results are not always what you want.... But they are always what you really do need....

676 rightymouse  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:50:21pm

re: #673 Ojoe

"Go hungry, America"

— Obama


He can kiss my posterior.

677 beblebrox  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:51:19pm

re: #674 Lucius Septimius

My heart goes out to you, my friend.

That happened to my dad; he remarried and I'm the result.

i don't know what makes me more sick: installing an internet camera in my home, or what i saw and heard on it.

678 Lucius Septimius  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:51:20pm

re: #675 doriangrey

First, my condolences on your situation, that sucks.... Second... GOTCR gets results with her prayers... So unless you want results dont ask her to put you on her prayer list... Third... The results are not always what you want.... But they are always what you really do need....

I agree -- her prayer lists do seem to work.

679 Lucius Septimius  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:51:56pm

re: #677 beblebrox

The latter, though that you felt the need to do the former is bad enough.

680 gettinby  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:52:27pm

re: #666 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Aren't you sweet.

Why...thank you.

681 nyc redneck  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:52:38pm

re: #673 Ojoe

"Go hungry, America"

— Obama

whoa, scary.
artificial famine because he likes it like that?
(well, michelle insists she can't afford fruit)

682 doriangrey  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:52:46pm

re: #674 Lucius Septimius

My heart goes out to you, my friend.

That happened to my dad; he remarried and I'm the result.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, please excuse me for thinking I am glad that happened to your dad. Not that I wish any ill upon him.... But you I find awe inspiring.......... Strange to hear this expressed perhaps, but thank god because you are an exceptional individual and this would be a much poorer and sadder world without you.....

683 beblebrox  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:52:48pm

re: #675 doriangrey

First, my condolences on your situation, that sucks.... Second... GOTCR gets results with her prayers... So unless you want results dont ask her to put you on her prayer list... Third... The results are not always what you want.... But they are always what you really do need....

as i said,i'll take any help i can get. and i am grateful

684 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:53:18pm

re: #682 doriangrey

What he said!

685 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:54:02pm

All this talk of food is making me hungry. I'm gonna leave my air conditioned apartment, drive down to my favorite taqueria, and get me an impossibly huge burrito.

And if Barack thinks he can stop me, he's got another thing coming!

Ya hear that Obama, you can go f*ck yourself!

686 doriangrey  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:54:47pm

re: #683 beblebrox

as i said,i'll take any help i can get. and i am grateful

Then grab your hat Dorthy, because Kansas is about to go bye bye.....

687 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:54:54pm

re: #667 beblebrox

Again, I'm so sorry.

Please see attorney TOMORROW to protect your interests. An initial consultation might run about $75 (mine did, anyway).

Secondly, call a counseling agency for an appointment. A neutral third party can help you work through your feelings in order to decide what course you want to pursue.

Your case is more painful than mine in that it involves the betrayal of a friend as well as your wife, not to mention the complication of a child. Do you have any other children? I have two, and my first priority was to save my marriage whatever it took. However, my EH did not share that commitment, and I reached the point where I knew that I could do no more.

Please let me know how things go. I will be thinking of and praying for you.

688 Lucius Septimius  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:55:33pm

re: #682 doriangrey

I am the product of many different unfortunate circumstances -- the atom bomb, for one.

My friends say I am the "karmic tool" -- it is my lot in life to turn the wheel.

689 gettinby  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:55:41pm

re: #677 beblebrox

{beblebrox}

690 beblebrox  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:55:43pm

re: #679 Lucius Septimius

The latter, though that you felt the need to do the former is bad enough.

it took three weeks of phone records and endless hours of agonization with myself and some trusted friends to come to that decision.

691 Lucius Septimius  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:55:52pm

re: #687 goddessoftheclassroom

Ditto -- get a good lawyer pronto.

692 doriangrey  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:56:00pm

re: #683 beblebrox

as i said,i'll take any help i can get. and i am grateful

Oh and yes, I am on her prayer list... I have no idea how I got there... But I can attest first hand to the power of her prayers........

693 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:56:07pm

re: #685 Slumbering Behemoth

Hey Big Guy, all you have to do is tell Obama to click your avatar (the best one that I am aware of).

694 nyc redneck  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:57:11pm

re: #667 beblebrox

{beblebrox}

695 Lucius Septimius  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:57:14pm

re: #690 beblebrox

it took three weeks of phone records and endless hours of agonization with myself and some trusted friends to come to that decision.

I was lucky in that regard -- my ex moved out before I found out, and then it was only because of a slip-up by one of her friends that I found out. By that time she'd screwed up so many things in the divorce proceedings my attorney told me that if I really wanted to push it I could have had her paying me alimony. (I didn't go there)

696 beblebrox  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:58:29pm

re: #687 goddessoftheclassroom

Again, I'm so sorry.

Please see attorney TOMORROW to protect your interests. An initial consultation might run about $75 (mine did, anyway).

Secondly, call a counseling agency for an appointment. A neutral third party can help you work through your feelings in order to decide what course you want to pursue.

Your case is more painful than mine in that it involves the betrayal of a friend as well as your wife, not to mention the complication of a child. Do you have any other children? I have two, and my first priority was to save my marriage whatever it took. However, my EH did not share that commitment, and I reached the point where I knew that I could do no more.

Please let me know how things go. I will be thinking of and praying for you.

i have retained council, and for me there can only be one possible solution. we have no children, so at he moment, this is a very lonely,quiet home.

697 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:58:47pm

re: #693 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Duly noted. Sometimes I forget that I put it there for that very purpose.

I'm off, burritos don't eat themselves ya know.

BBL

698 doriangrey  Mon, May 19, 2008 5:59:30pm

re: #693 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hey Big Guy, all you have to do is tell Obama to click your avatar (the best one that I am aware of).

That is without a doubt a truly great avatar................... Makes my vette pale in comparison........

699 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, May 19, 2008 6:00:14pm

re: #696 beblebrox

My heart is aching for you. I know I can speak for all your lizard friends that we care deeply about you, and that you are not alone.

700 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 19, 2008 6:00:35pm

re: #698 doriangrey

Of course. Even a vette can't stand up to Johnny!

701 beblebrox  Mon, May 19, 2008 6:01:30pm

re: #695 Lucius Septimius

I was lucky in that regard -- my ex moved out before I found out, and then it was only because of a slip-up by one of her friends that I found out. By that time she'd screwed up so many things in the divorce proceedings my attorney told me that if I really wanted to push it I could have had her paying me alimony. (I didn't go there)

yes. I told her to leave house that night. he was actually inside messing around with her while was outside cutting grass. She immediatly moved in with him.

702 joncelli  Mon, May 19, 2008 6:01:59pm

re: #463 Slumbering Behemoth

Fuckin' A, SB.

703 beblebrox  Mon, May 19, 2008 6:05:49pm

it kills me ATM that is have to be a cold calculating b@#tard about this, but I want to come out of this asintact as possible.I have had an endless line of friends and family making sure I didn't do anything stupid. (made very good friends with a few bottles for several days).

704 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, May 19, 2008 6:09:32pm

re: #703 beblebrox

Absolutely. Now it's a business situation, not a "personal" one. She broke the contract.

Someone pointed that out to me in my situation, and it helped me immensely to move beyond emotional decision-making. I am very devoted to the teachings of my faith, and I felt terribly guilty about filing for divorce until my priest gently reassured me that I was not committing a sin; I was the one sinned against.

705 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 19, 2008 6:09:46pm

re: #703 beblebrox

Nothing I can say, haven't lived it. But I am sorry.

706 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, May 19, 2008 6:12:04pm

I'm going to mosey over to another thread after I take out my contacts.

707 nyc redneck  Mon, May 19, 2008 6:12:41pm

re: #701 beblebrox

yes. I told her to leave house that night. he was actually inside messing around with her while was outside cutting grass. She immediatly moved in with him.

betrayal is so painful. people are often just who they are. sounds like your friend and your wife deserve each other.
so sorry you are suffering.

708 Lucius Septimius  Mon, May 19, 2008 6:13:25pm

re: #706 goddessoftheclassroom

I'm going to mosey over to another thread after I take out my contacts.

Don't want to read what's going on over there?

709 doriangrey  Mon, May 19, 2008 6:13:46pm

re: #701 beblebrox

yes. I told her to leave house that night. he was actually inside messing around with her while was outside cutting grass. She immediatly moved in with him.


beblebrox, I am a simple man, a musician if one dare call me that, but a relatively simple man none the less. I, like you, have had my heart broken before. Sadly I find myself absent of words that might bring you comfort. What I can tell you will not help at this moment. The pain will pass. The memory will not, but the pain will.

There is perhaps nothing more painful than that of the betrayal of that one special love. No amount of words, however well intentioned can dull that pain. No person claiming kinship with the feeling can soften what you are now feeling.

This does not mean that we would not were it in our power to do so, for though I can speak only for myself I know I would do what ever I could to spare you this pain. Sadly all I can say is that you are not alone, this is not the end, and you will survive.

710 wii42  Mon, May 19, 2008 6:15:14pm

re: #624 gettinby

Well I've gotta admit I've spent more time coding it than using it, but it's kinda handy for long threads when you just want to read them. Looking at the lgf30006.html link is what you get - that's better than I could explain it.

If you're running linux then you have Perl. You can get it for free for Windows - the name/url escapes me right now. But if you've never heard of it than it's probably more trouble than it's worth, although it should just work right out of the box.

Also, fwiw, it's not taxing the LGF hamsters since once you've looked at the page, the way I understand it anyway, it doesn't take another round-trip to Charles' server to get the HTML source. So everything is happening locally

Anyways it was just fun coding it - perl's addictive and recursive functions are trippy.

711 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 19, 2008 6:15:31pm

re: #708 Lucius Septimius

Internal dialogue....
"That a question? Or a statement? Damn question marks. Phrased like a statement. Damn, but it's Lucius. What to do? What to do?"

712 Lucius Septimius  Mon, May 19, 2008 6:16:21pm

re: #682 doriangrey

Thanks for the kind words, btw. I really need them these days -- going through my own rough spot.

713 wii42  Mon, May 19, 2008 6:16:49pm

re: #647 Racer X

Thanks - it was - I learned a lot doing it.

714 goddessoftheclassroom  Mon, May 19, 2008 6:17:07pm

re: #708 Lucius Septimius

Don't want to read what's going on over there?

I'm nearsighted--I'll just put my nose on the screen! :)

715 doriangrey  Mon, May 19, 2008 6:17:29pm

re: #704 goddessoftheclassroom

I am very devoted to the teachings of my faith,


May the creator and king of the universe, father of the author and finisher of our salvation, the lamb of God, slain before the foundations of the world greatly bless you and keep you.

716 Lucius Septimius  Mon, May 19, 2008 6:17:31pm

re: #711 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I was just wondering how she was going to read the thread without her contacts -- perhaps there is something particularly interesting about posting when you can't really read what it is you're responding to ...

717 Lucius Septimius  Mon, May 19, 2008 6:17:50pm

re: #714 goddessoftheclassroom

I'm nearsighted--I'll just put my nose on the screen! :)

eewwww -- you don't have a cold, I hope.

718 doriangrey  Mon, May 19, 2008 6:19:14pm

re: #712 Lucius Septimius

Thanks for the kind words, btw. I really need them these days -- going through my own rough spot.

I only state the obvious truth, sadly I am not capable of more...

719 doriangrey  Mon, May 19, 2008 6:20:19pm

re: #714 goddessoftheclassroom

I'm nearsighted--I'll just put my nose on the screen! :)

And such a cute little nose it is............. :)

720 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 19, 2008 6:21:37pm

re: #716 Lucius Septimius

Totally makes sense now. I apologize for not considering context.

721 Lucius Septimius  Mon, May 19, 2008 6:22:14pm

re: #720 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Totally makes sense now. I apologize for not considering context.

izallcool.

722 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, May 19, 2008 6:25:19pm

re: #721 Lucius Septimius

izallcool.

Somebody say Iz?

Found this today...beautiful

723 joecitizen  Mon, May 19, 2008 6:41:10pm

re: #307 song_and_dance_man

Looks like Joe Citizen caved to the pressure and removed his foul rendering.

you talkin' to me?


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