France Has 'Informal Contact' with Hamas
Mon, May 19, 2008 at 6:15:03 pm PDT
France says it’s had informal contacts with Hamas. Are you surprised?
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Mon, May 19, 2008 at 6:15:03 pm PDT
France says it’s had informal contacts with Hamas. Are you surprised?
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jcm Mon, May 19, 2008 6:16:01pm |
Do we need to wave the white flag or will holding the white flag limply do?
/fwance
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SpringheelJack Mon, May 19, 2008 6:16:11pm |
Why would anybody be surprised at French diplomacy?
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astronmr20 Mon, May 19, 2008 6:16:52pm |
The IAF should make informal "contact" with them more often, too.
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mikeinmd Mon, May 19, 2008 6:18:17pm |
Informal Contact With Hamas .
In France that means they've been selling them weapons for 6 months.
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astronmr20 Mon, May 19, 2008 6:19:18pm |
re: #6 buzzsawmonkey
Is that "informal contact" like the kind a businessman makes with the lady hanging out under the lamp post?
You mean like a John and a Ho?
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WhiteRasta Mon, May 19, 2008 6:20:20pm |
re: #5 mikeinmd
I have to disagree with you there.
I think it means we have been selling them weapons for the last 25 years......
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LoFlyer Mon, May 19, 2008 6:20:35pm |
France has informal contacts with Hamass, so does Israel, about three times a day courtesy of 122 MM unguided rockets. Lifes a bitch unless you are French!
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Occasional Reader Mon, May 19, 2008 6:20:47pm |
Say it ain't so, Sarko.
Yes, Carla is hottie, but you have to get out of bed some time and get to work.
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Zach_the_Lizard Mon, May 19, 2008 6:21:55pm |
So France has been sleeping with Hamas? I'm sure France's wife, the local [bigoted word]s, will be a little upset. I mean, they can't have any competition when it comes to capitulation.
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astronmr20 Mon, May 19, 2008 6:22:48pm |
Ah.. this is just like the informal contact that Bill was given under the Oval office desk.
Nothing to see here.
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WhiteRasta Mon, May 19, 2008 6:22:59pm |
re: #14 Occasional Reader
Nikko will soon be out of the velcro stage ........
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Lucius Septimius Mon, May 19, 2008 6:23:25pm |
re: #15 Zach_the_Lizard
So France has been sleeping with Hamas?
It's ok, they're just friends -- doesn't really mean anything.
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WayDownSouthInBama Mon, May 19, 2008 6:24:14pm |
France had "informal contact" with Saddam too. They called it oil-for-food. I called it treason. No,Im not surprised.
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paint-right Mon, May 19, 2008 6:24:36pm |
re: #4 song_and_dance_man
Is preemptive surrender in the works?
with no preconditions!
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Racer X Mon, May 19, 2008 6:24:39pm |
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JammieWearingFool Mon, May 19, 2008 6:24:45pm |
How do you say "Let them eat their waffles" in French?
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looking closely Mon, May 19, 2008 6:27:00pm |
"Informal" contact could mean all sorts of things.
Israel has "informal" contact with Hamas all the time, right?
McCain said it well. . .Hamas may be terrorists, but they are nominally in charge of Gaza, and we may have to "deal" with them from time to time. ("Deal with" was his exact word usage).
But there is a big difference between occasional back-channel or third party brokered communications over matters of legitimate urgency, and face-to-face negotiations of the kind Obama advocates with Iran.
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Occasional Reader Mon, May 19, 2008 6:27:16pm |
re: #17 WhiteRasta
Nikko will soon be out of the velcro stage ........
Huh?
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nyc redneck Mon, May 19, 2008 6:28:05pm |
ad in a newspaper: FOR SALE french rifle. never fired. dropped once.
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really grumpy big dog Johnson Mon, May 19, 2008 6:28:12pm |
With the particular issues at hand, i.e. unconditional talks with terror states, I think that Sarkozy just figured it's the right time to come clean and admit the truth that we've already known for ages.
The French think they are so forward-looking, but we see what they are doing. No need to hide it. We need to talk to them.
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LittleRed1 Mon, May 19, 2008 6:28:22pm |
Oh well, at least they are admitting it at last. Sort of. Ish.
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BGOH Mon, May 19, 2008 6:28:36pm |
Short answer: no.
If it turns out that "informal contact" means that Sarkozy has been bangin' Pali chics: yes and no.
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jcm Mon, May 19, 2008 6:28:38pm |
Does Hamas roar like a tiger and France yelp like a hyena during these informal contacts?
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brainwizard73 Mon, May 19, 2008 6:28:42pm |
Prediction:
This is the first step in the Nicholas Sarkozy rope-a-dope.
Hamas might want to watch thier behinds...
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TallTexan Mon, May 19, 2008 6:29:25pm |
I am sure the French were just getting the catering order right for the day they surrender.
In college I met a man who was in the OSS during WWII who said that if every Frenchman he met after the war who claimed to be in the resistance had been in the resistance, the German would have never made it over the border.
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x-ray Mon, May 19, 2008 6:29:38pm |
France is just preemptively surrendering too their new Muslim Overlords.
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Killgore Trout Mon, May 19, 2008 6:29:40pm |
Informal Contact? When do the conjugal visits start?
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mitthrawnurdo Mon, May 19, 2008 6:29:59pm |
re: #19 Lucius Septimius
Yeppers. They're just "studying together", nothing wrong is going on there, right?!?! France would never sleep with Hamas.
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looking closely Mon, May 19, 2008 6:30:27pm |
IMO, this is the absolute WORST kind of "informal talks with Hamas:
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LittleRed1 Mon, May 19, 2008 6:30:51pm |
Why did the French invent the TGV?
So the French Army can bet the German Army to Paris during the next war.
/HT The MunchkinWrangler's comments page
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nyc redneck Mon, May 19, 2008 6:31:16pm |
how long did it take the nazis to take paris?
three days and that's because it was raining.
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Killian Bundy Mon, May 19, 2008 6:31:51pm |
They must have run out of Saddam money.
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WhiteRasta Mon, May 19, 2008 6:31:51pm |
re: #26 Occasional Reader
Never been in the velcro stage with a new lover?
Nikko will have to wake up and get his ass back to work.
Although the concept of "Work"is foreign to a Frenchman....
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mitthrawnurdo Mon, May 19, 2008 6:31:52pm |
re: #39 song_and_dance_man
lol, good one!
/although didn't the Israelis use old Mirages to great advantage during the 6-Day War?
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really grumpy big dog Johnson Mon, May 19, 2008 6:31:53pm |
Bush, against his better instincts, signed the SOR suspension bill.
I can dig it. Doesn't mean I like it. It's like swatting a bumblebee with a feather.
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Lucius Septimius Mon, May 19, 2008 6:32:24pm |
re: #37 mitthrawnurdo
Yeppers. They're just "studying together", nothing wrong is going on there, right?!?! France would never sleep with Hamas.
No. A little bukkake, perhaps, but nothing serious.
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HelloDare Mon, May 19, 2008 6:32:34pm |
re: #38 looking closely
I managed to stay pretty calm today until I saw that picture again.
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ted Mon, May 19, 2008 6:32:49pm |
" I didn't have sex with that woman"
William J. Clinton
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really grumpy big dog Johnson Mon, May 19, 2008 6:33:01pm |
re: #31 jcm
Does Hamas roar like a tiger and France yelp like a hyena during these informal contacts?
wickedly funny, jcm. But I regress...
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NGrove Mon, May 19, 2008 6:33:53pm |
I tend to think of "informal contact" with Hamas as involving explosives.
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Yankee Division Son Mon, May 19, 2008 6:33:58pm |
"..to inform us about the situation"... "...just to inform ourselves..."
Inform ourselves of WHAT?, one wonders.. what Hamas proclaims France can or cannot do?!
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WhiteRasta Mon, May 19, 2008 6:34:00pm |
re: #41 nyc redneck
Why do the French plant trees on the Champs Elyse?
Because the German Army likes to march in the shade....
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Sarge1984 Mon, May 19, 2008 6:34:16pm |
Okay, in the spirit of some of the comments, Blackfive's Encounter with a French General.
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Shiplord Kirel Mon, May 19, 2008 6:34:20pm |
I am an advocate of informal contact with Hamas. What could be less formal than a MOAB crashing through the roof of their headquarters? It would be positively rude, it would.
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nyc redneck Mon, May 19, 2008 6:34:29pm |
we shouldn't look to europe for anything but a laugh. (and a sigh)
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looking closely Mon, May 19, 2008 6:34:34pm |
re: #47 HelloDare
I managed to stay pretty calm today until I saw that picture again.
Good thing I didn't post this one instead.
Carter is a fool.
Legitimizing Hamas by meeting with them doesn't just hurt Israel, it hurts all the Palestinians.
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LoFlyer Mon, May 19, 2008 6:35:10pm |
Can anyone imagine the outcry from the UN, ME, WE, and the US if Israel started launching three unguided missiles a day at Gaza or Lebanon? The sh-t would truly hit the fan. This double standard is beyond comprehension. Israel does everything possible to limit casualties and Hamas keeps using human shields to up the casualties and our fracking media suppresses reports on the policy of human shields to inflict maximum civilian casualties for propaganda. This is insane....
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Lucius Septimius Mon, May 19, 2008 6:35:14pm |
re: #51 mitthrawnurdo
Alcohol can do that.
Yep -- cause of and solution to all life's problems.
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WhiteRasta Mon, May 19, 2008 6:36:08pm |
What's the first thing they teach you when you join the French Arny?
How to say, "I surrender." In German...
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Lucius Septimius Mon, May 19, 2008 6:36:18pm |
re: #58 looking closely
Good thing I didn't post this one instead.
Love the body language in that picture -- Assad is looking like "whoah! This dude is starting to creep me out!"
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BGOH Mon, May 19, 2008 6:37:19pm |
re: #56 Shiplord Kirel
I am an advocate of informal contact with Hamas. What could be less formal than a MOAB crashing through the roof of their headquarters? It would be positively rude, it would.
A Daisy Cutter or two is pretty "informal," as well.
/bad taste, but I couldn't resist...
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Lucius Septimius Mon, May 19, 2008 6:37:34pm |
re: #61 WhiteRasta
What's the first thing they teach you when you join the French Arny?
How to say, "I surrender." In German...
And the intepreters always tell them "Ich bin eine Schwulli!"
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WayDownSouthInBama Mon, May 19, 2008 6:38:05pm |
The toxic fumes from all of the burning automobiles left behind by the last bunch France tried to appease should be enough to remind their leaders of what happens when terrorists tire of "informal contacts" and decide the mouse has been played with long enough....and now it's time for dinner.
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Shiplord Kirel Mon, May 19, 2008 6:38:24pm |
re: #59 LoFlyer
Can anyone imagine the outcry from the UN, ME, WE, and the US if Israel started launching three unguided missiles a day at Gaza or Lebanon? The sh-t would truly hit the fan. This double standard is beyond comprehension. Israel does everything possible to limit casualties and Hamas keeps using human shields to up the casualties and our fracking media suppresses reports on the policy of human shields to inflict maximum civilian casualties for propaganda. This is insane....
Imagine what would happen if the Mexican army starting lobbing rockets into El Paso. There wouldn't be two boards left nailed together in Ciudad Juarez 48 hours later. Yet we blithely demand that Israel endure similar provocation from a terrorist gang (Mexico is at least a legitimately constituted country.)
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opnion Mon, May 19, 2008 6:38:24pm |
Obama is actually worse.He is talking about unconditional direct contact with the President of the U.S.
No pass for the French, but Obama is out frenching the French.
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jcm Mon, May 19, 2008 6:38:33pm |
re: #58 looking closely
Good thing I didn't post this one instead.
Carter is a fool.
Legitimizing Hamas by meeting with them doesn't just hurt Israel, it hurts all the Palestinians.
[deleted]
*any comments on Rabbit Bait would be ban worthy*
Deep breath.
Find your happy place.
Deep breath.
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mattm Mon, May 19, 2008 6:39:09pm |
If France will attempt to work with Hamas, that means the US must. As president i will do whatever it takes to make Hamas happy.
/B. Hussein Obama off
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Lucius Septimius Mon, May 19, 2008 6:39:18pm |
re: #70 LittleRed1
Re. # 65. That's mean. Funny, but mean
I know -- it's the image of the German response when the surrending Frenchmen say that that completes the picture.
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HelloDare Mon, May 19, 2008 6:39:25pm |
re: #48 ted
" I didn't have sex with that woman"
William J. Clinton
Please quote the scumbag correctly. He used what he considered was a weasel word . "I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky." Conservatives always misrepresent liberals.
/sarc
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nyc redneck Mon, May 19, 2008 6:39:55pm |
re: #61 WhiteRasta
What's the first thing they teach you when you join the French Arny?
How to say, "I surrender." In German...
ich bin ein franzosische arschloch.
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really grumpy big dog Johnson Mon, May 19, 2008 6:40:33pm |
re: #59 LoFlyer
Can anyone imagine the outcry from the UN, ME, WE, and the US if Israel started launching three unguided missiles a day at Gaza or Lebanon? The sh-t would truly hit the fan. This double standard is beyond comprehension. Israel does everything possible to limit casualties and Hamas keeps using human shields to up the casualties and our fracking media suppresses reports on the policy of human shields to inflict maximum civilian casualties for propaganda. This is insane....
There's no such thing as a single fatality in a targeted Israeli strike. If you want to get rich in paliform land, you rent your reusable caskets by the hour.
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Lucius Septimius Mon, May 19, 2008 6:41:05pm |
re: #75 nyc redneck
ich bin ein franzosische arschloch.
"Und meine Mutter ist eine zwei Groschen Dirne"
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looking closely Mon, May 19, 2008 6:41:36pm |
re: #68 opnion
Obama is actually worse.He is talking about unconditional direct contact with the President of the U.S.
No pass for the French, but Obama is out frenching the French.
In fairness to Obama he DID say that he wouldn't meet with HAMAS.
The problem is Obama seems idiotically unaware (and I don't use the term lightly) that Hamas, Syria, Hizb'Allah, and Iran are more or less different sides of the same square, and he DOES want to have "face time" with the respective thugs from Iran and Syria.
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NGrove Mon, May 19, 2008 6:41:58pm |
re: #55 Sarge1984
Okay, in the spirit of some of the comments, Blackfive's Encounter with a French General.
Hey Sarge, What's new? BTW That one's always been a favorite of mine.
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LittleRed1 Mon, May 19, 2008 6:42:37pm |
Bitte, bitte! Vielleicht lesen die Monitorlizards Deutsch.
Oder vielleicht nicht.
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Lucius Septimius Mon, May 19, 2008 6:42:56pm |
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Yankee Division Son Mon, May 19, 2008 6:43:06pm |
I wonder if "contract" is new speak for "non-aggression pact".
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slokat Mon, May 19, 2008 6:43:20pm |
If I were to ever find myself in a compromising position I will now know to use the "Informal Contact" defense...
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Sarge1984 Mon, May 19, 2008 6:44:11pm |
re: #79 NGrove
Good to see you back, NGrove!
That's been one of my faves since you turned me on to milblogs last year! Thanks!
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nyc redneck Mon, May 19, 2008 6:44:37pm |
re: #77 Lucius Septimius
"Und meine Mutter ist eine zwei Groschen Dirne"
und mein vati ist ein besofener huhnerkopf.
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gman Mon, May 19, 2008 6:44:48pm |
re: #20 WayDownSouthInBama
France had "informal contact" with Saddam too. They called it oil-for-food. I called it treason. No,Im not surprised.
not to mention giving Saddam regular reports on private meetings between American and French diplomats.
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Ma Sands Mon, May 19, 2008 6:44:48pm |
(OT: Oh, dear.....there's a petition to get the one good reporter on Islam at the Star/Trib, Katherine Kersten, fired..... ):
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LoFlyer Mon, May 19, 2008 6:45:50pm |
re: #67 Shiplord Kirel
Imagine what would happen if the Mexican army starting lobbing rockets into El Paso. There wouldn't be two boards left nailed together in Ciudad Juarez 48 hours later. Yet we blithely demand that Israel endure similar provocation from a terrorist gang (Mexico is at least a legitimately constituted country.)
Agreed! Rice and the State departments insistence that Israel "turn the other cheek" after her civilians are massacred is BS and they (Rice and the State dept.) should be "burned" by Americans citizens for their sympathetic overtures to terrorists..
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Grammy Cracker Mon, May 19, 2008 6:46:25pm |
re: #81 LittleRed1
Bitte, bitte! Vielleicht lesen die Monitorlizards Deutsch.
Oder vielleicht nicht.
Guten tag! Danke!
This covers the gamut of my knowledge of the German language, learned while visiting there. Thankfully, they are a kind people and those two phrases were sufficient to endear me to the locals...
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NGrove Mon, May 19, 2008 6:46:50pm |
re: #85 Sarge1984
De Nada. Yes, we are back (sigh). So not ready to put out fires at work tomorrow but five days without phone, tv, internet or newspapers was very relaxing. Nice beach and big bay didn't hurt either!
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nyc redneck Mon, May 19, 2008 6:49:01pm |
re: #92 gman
Ich spreche ein bisschen deutsch.
ein bier bitte!
er wird bestimmt besser als man trinkt.
so i know what you're talking abt.
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LittleRed1 Mon, May 19, 2008 6:49:15pm |
War bei Universitaet in Deutschland. Studierte Militaergeschichte.
/Trans. I went to university in Germany for a while and studied military history as well as languages.
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nyc redneck Mon, May 19, 2008 6:50:46pm |
re: #95 LittleRed1
War bei Universitaet in Deutschland. Studierte Militaergeschichte.
/Trans. I went to university in Germany for a while and studied military history as well as languages.
wunderschon (es tut mir leid, ich habe kein umlaut for over the o)
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LittleRed1 Mon, May 19, 2008 6:51:49pm |
Haven't figured out umlauts on the Web yet, either. I use the ae, ue, oe as replacements.
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Grammy Cracker Mon, May 19, 2008 6:52:10pm |
re: #96 buddyg
German for wrench:
Guten Tight
Doesn't Billy Mays do the commercials for that?
...But WAIT...order in the next 15 minutes, and we'll double your order! Get 2 Guten Tights for the low, low price of $19.95 (plus shipping and handling)...
LOL
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joecitizen Mon, May 19, 2008 6:53:20pm |
re: #97 song_and_dance_manhey song..curious about your comment #307 in the Monday open thread..were you referencing THIS joecitizen and if so,what's the context? thnks in advance.Your pal,joe
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Lucius Septimius Mon, May 19, 2008 6:53:28pm |
re: #99 LittleRed1
Haven't figured out umlauts on the Web yet, either. I use the ae, ue, oe as replacements.
Look down at the bottom of the comment box for the "how to enter special characters" instructions.
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Lucius Septimius Mon, May 19, 2008 6:54:11pm |
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really grumpy big dog Johnson Mon, May 19, 2008 6:54:37pm |
re: #94 nyc redneck
er wird bestimmt besser als man trinkt.
so i know what you're talking abt.
This is an American political blog. If you want to converse in a foreign language, hit the chatroom. You can even start a subchat for those who also want to converse in a foreign language.
See how easy that is?
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Grammy Cracker Mon, May 19, 2008 6:55:13pm |
re: #99 LittleRed1
Haven't figured out umlauts on the Web yet, either. I use the ae, ue, oe as replacements.
Try clicking on Charles' *special characters* link at the bottom of the comment window. There is a chart for all European language characters there....
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Lucius Septimius Mon, May 19, 2008 6:55:59pm |
Time to feed the baby and get him off to slumberland. Night all!
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LittleRed1 Mon, May 19, 2008 6:56:04pm |
Re. #102, 103. Vielen Dank. (Many thanks.)
And, alas, back to work. Good night, fellow lizards!
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Roentgen Mon, May 19, 2008 6:56:28pm |
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Grammy Cracker Mon, May 19, 2008 6:56:44pm |
re: #109 Lucius Septimius
Time to feed the baby and get him off to slumberland. Night all!
Awww...that's what Grandpa Cracker calls it, too....
LOL
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Alouette Mon, May 19, 2008 6:57:02pm |
Letzte November haben wir eine paar Stunden in Frankfurt geblieben. Als wir den koscheren Restaurant besuchten, hat der Eigentumer verlangt, das wir nur Englisch oder Hebraisch sprechen!
Da ware ein Messerangriff vor zwei Wochen in der Synagogue.
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really grumpy big dog Johnson Mon, May 19, 2008 6:57:41pm |
re: #108 Grammy Cracker
Try clicking on Charles' *special characters* link at the bottom of the comment window. There is a chart for all European language characters there....
Grammy, not to worry. American English still consists of twenty-six simple characters of the alphabet.
If you wan't to know who's already preparing to lay down and die, count the accents, umlauts etc. in their posts. You'll get the bigger picture.
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Roentgen Mon, May 19, 2008 6:57:44pm |
re: #111 Roentgen
Yeah, "oe" works.
Does this mean I have to change my username?
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joecitizen Mon, May 19, 2008 6:58:15pm |
re: #107 song_and_dance_man
It was the Joe Citizen who posted that atrocious picture in the KOSlam diaries on that thread.
ok,thanks..I didn't see it (nor did I post it!)..just to clarify,was that posted on here by ANOTHER joe or on kos? a site I have thankfully never felt the urge to post at..just curious
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Grammy Cracker Mon, May 19, 2008 6:58:43pm |
re: #115 really grumpy big dog Johnson
Grammy, not to worry. American English still consists of twenty-six simple characters of the alphabet.
If you wan't to know who's already preparing to lay down and die, count the accents, umlauts etc. in their posts. You'll get the bigger picture.
Oui?!
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really grumpy big dog Johnson Mon, May 19, 2008 6:59:03pm |
re: #114 Alouette
Letzte November haben wir eine paar Stunden in Frankfurt geblieben. Als wir den koscheren Restaurant besuchten, hat der Eigentumer verlangt, das wir nur Englisch oder Hebraisch sprechen!
Da ware ein Messerangriff vor zwei Wochen in der Synagogue.
This is an American blog, not a foreign language class. You earned a down ding for that one.
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really grumpy big dog Johnson Mon, May 19, 2008 6:59:29pm |
re: #119 Grammy Cracker
Oui?!
Exactly!
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Alouette Mon, May 19, 2008 6:59:41pm |
re: #120 really grumpy big dog Johnson
This is an American blog, not a foreign language class. You earned a down ding for that one.
%u05EA%u05E0%u05E9%u05E7 %u05DC%u05D9 %u05E2%u05DC %u05E6%u05D3 %u05E9%u05E0%u05D9
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PeggyU Mon, May 19, 2008 6:59:57pm |
Casual contact with Hamas ... That sounds unsanitary.
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Sharmuta Mon, May 19, 2008 6:59:59pm |
France Has 'Informal Contact' with Hamas
If it's good enough for the obama campaign, it's good enough for France!
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Cognito Mon, May 19, 2008 7:00:52pm |
I'm not sure what all the fuss is about. "Informal contact" means business casual, and that's the way people do things now. Khakis and loafers.
You people are so stuck on formality. "Silk ties" here, and "wingtips" there, and "no dealing with terrorists."
So old-fashioned.
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Grammy Cracker Mon, May 19, 2008 7:01:24pm |
re: #120 really grumpy big dog Johnson
This is an American blog, not a foreign language class. You earned a down ding for that one.
Wait, I'm trying to get this.... November...student?...Frankfurt...kosher restaurant...English...speaking Hebrew?....Synagogue
/sigh...It's so much easier to read French and Italian...
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Noam Sayin' Mon, May 19, 2008 7:01:38pm |
This is just another reason not to vote for Obama.
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really grumpy big dog Johnson Mon, May 19, 2008 7:01:54pm |
re: #124 Alouette
%u05EA%u05E0%u05E9%u05E7 %u05DC%u05D9 %u05E2%u05DC %u05E6%u05D3 %u05E9%u05E0%u05D9
How to make friends and influence enemies?
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jcm Mon, May 19, 2008 7:01:55pm |
re: #125 PeggyU
Casual contact with Hamas ... That sounds unsanitary.
Wear protection.
Practice safe informal contact.
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nyc redneck Mon, May 19, 2008 7:02:54pm |
re: #106 really grumpy big dog Johnson
This is an American political blog. If you want to converse in a foreign language, hit the chatroom. You can even start a subchat for those who also want to converse in a foreign language.
See how easy that is?
nicht so schwer, meister doktor professor sehr bose grosse hund johnson.
;)
that means. ok.
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Killian Bundy Mon, May 19, 2008 7:03:01pm |
re: #100 Grammy Cracker
Doesn't Billy Mays do the commercials for that?
...But WAIT...order in the next 15 minutes, and we'll double your order! Get 2 Guten Tights for the low, low price of $19.95 (plus shipping and handling)...
/are you mocking Billy Mays?
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, May 19, 2008 7:03:04pm |
Reposted from an earlier thread; more relevant here.
Hamas is at their fake truce stuff again.
First, Olmert skeptical of cease-fire, but going along for Mubarak
Israel is skeptical that a cease-fire with Hamas will be reached and, therefore, the IDF is preparing for a large-scale military operation in the Gaza Strip, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has said in recent closed-door meetings while adding that he is letting the process play out in order to show respect for the Egyptian leadership.
Good thing they're preparing, because 'Truce doesn't mean end of resistance'
As for freeing Shalit, Hamas says forget it:
Referring to the case of kidnapped IDF Cpl. Gilad Schalit, the Hamas official said his movement would not "succumb" to Israel's demand that the issue be part of any truce deal.
"We won't surrender to Israeli extortion," he added. "Hamas is different from the other Palestinian parties, which are used to making free concessions to Israel."
Funny, I haven't heard of any Palestinan party making any form of concession to Israel, short of not destroying Israel right now (because they're too weak)
I'm sure Jimmy Carter and B. Hussein Obama are ready to negotiate with Hamas, without preconditions, though.
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Grammy Cracker Mon, May 19, 2008 7:03:04pm |
re: #130 really grumpy big dog Johnson
How to make friends and influence enemies?
How to make friends and scare enemies.....
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snowcrash Mon, May 19, 2008 7:03:12pm |
I am continually impressed with the many talents of the Lizards...considering we're knuckle draggers.lol
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Grammy Cracker Mon, May 19, 2008 7:03:34pm |
re: #133 Killian Bundy
/are you mocking Billy Mays?
Hell no! I really do love Oxy-Clean!
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sparrowlake Mon, May 19, 2008 7:04:45pm |
re: #126 Sharmuta
France Has 'Informal Contact' with Hamas
If it's good enough for the obama campaign, it's good enough for France!
Lay off.
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Sharmuta Mon, May 19, 2008 7:04:54pm |
re: #138 song_and_dance_man
LGF - better than the French
Rotating title nomination!
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Sharmuta Mon, May 19, 2008 7:05:19pm |
re: #139 sparrowlake
I'm not helping Michelle's children, am I?
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USBeast Mon, May 19, 2008 7:05:22pm |
How formal can contact be after one has dropped one's pants?
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nyc redneck Mon, May 19, 2008 7:06:02pm |
gosh, i can't believe i can remember any german at all. lol
es freut mich so das ich ein bissel sprechen.
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Killian Bundy Mon, May 19, 2008 7:06:36pm |
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jcm Mon, May 19, 2008 7:07:15pm |
re: #143 USBeast
How formal can contact be after one has dropped one's pants?
I did not have informal relations with that terrorist group, Hamas.
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Bosch Fawstin Mon, May 19, 2008 7:07:52pm |
re: #1 jcm
Do we need to wave the white flag or will holding the white flag limply do?
/fwance
Actually, what we need to do is turn the enemy's black flag white
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ameridan Mon, May 19, 2008 7:08:40pm |
re: #134 Kosh's Shadow
"Referring to the case of kidnapped IDF Cpl. Gilad Schalit, the Hamas official said his movement would not "succumb" to Israel's demand that the issue be part of any truce deal."
At least he's not in Gitmo.
/major sarc
/praying for Gilad Schalit's safe return
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Cognito Mon, May 19, 2008 7:08:45pm |
re: #145 Killian Bundy
Okay.
I can't believe I just watched that.
"You're going spend twenty dollars on paper towels this month anyway!"
Wait... what?
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nyc redneck Mon, May 19, 2008 7:09:14pm |
re: #136 snowcrash
I am continually impressed with the many talents of the Lizards...considering we're knuckle draggers.lol
ich bin kein knuckle dragger. :D
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Killian Bundy Mon, May 19, 2008 7:12:48pm |
re: #151 Cognito
"You're going spend twenty dollars on paper towels this month anyway!"
Wait... what?
We actually had that argument one night.
/apparently some people do spend $20 on paper towels per month
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, May 19, 2008 7:12:52pm |
re: #144 nyc redneck
gosh, i can't believe i can remember any german at all. lol
es freut mich so das ich ein bissel sprechen.
I remember a little German. (Cue the dwarf in lederhosen) (OK, I stole that from Top Secret)
Here's my German phrase:
Ein bier, bitte!
Very useful during Oktoberfest.
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, May 19, 2008 7:14:05pm |
re: #155 Killian Bundy
We actually had that argument one night.
/apparently some people do spend $20 on paper towels per month
We didn't spend that much when we had a lot of puppies!
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goddessoftheclassroom Mon, May 19, 2008 7:15:27pm |
re: #138 song_and_dance_man
LGF - better than the French
Yes, but at least I speak French!
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Intrepid Mon, May 19, 2008 7:15:46pm |
re: #155 Killian Bundy
We actually had that argument one night.
/apparently some people do spend $20 on paper towels per month
Families with small kids probably blow through $20 in paper towels in a month. Or they have to wash kitchen towels everyday.
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goddessoftheclassroom Mon, May 19, 2008 7:16:06pm |
re: #146 Cognito
Je ne parle pas.
Mais non!
Non!
Pas un peu? Un petit peu?
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lobo91 Mon, May 19, 2008 7:16:35pm |
re: #151 Cognito
I can't believe I just watched that.
"You're going spend twenty dollars on paper towels this month anyway!"
Wait... what?
I'd be surprised if I spend $20 a year on paper towels.
That guy must be really messy.
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ameridan Mon, May 19, 2008 7:17:22pm |
re: #159 Intrepid
Families with small kids probably blow through $20 in paper towels in a month. Or they have to wash kitchen towels everyday.
Repent, ye killers of Mother Gaia!
/Al Gore
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nyc redneck Mon, May 19, 2008 7:18:03pm |
re: #156 Kosh's Shadow
I remember a little German. (Cue the dwarf in lederhosen) (OK, I stole that from Top Secret)
Here's my German phrase:
Ein bier, bitte!
Very useful during Oktoberfest.
das ist genug. (perfect, aber make it zwei bier, one for me. actually make it drei bier, another for grumpy)
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goddessoftheclassroom Mon, May 19, 2008 7:18:19pm |
re: #154 BuddyG
Bon-jer mada-moy-zell
Bon soir, monsieur! Comment ca va? Je vais bien quand je peux compter les etoiles.
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Grammy Cracker Mon, May 19, 2008 7:18:23pm |
re: #138 song_and_dance_man
LGF - better than the French without even trying
/fixed it
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Grammy Cracker Mon, May 19, 2008 7:20:02pm |
re: #160 goddessoftheclassroom
Pas un peu? Un petit peu?
Ah, oui! Je parle un peu....tres peu!
/four years of high school French...about 100 years ago!
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goddessoftheclassroom Mon, May 19, 2008 7:23:09pm |
re: #166 Grammy Cracker
I read it better than I hear it. I can speak it fairly well, and my accent is impressive, so I've been told!
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ameridan Mon, May 19, 2008 7:24:46pm |
re: #166 Grammy Cracker
/four years of high school French...about 100 years ago!
Wow, you don't look or act your age.
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Grammy Cracker Mon, May 19, 2008 7:25:01pm |
re: #167 goddessoftheclassroom
I read it better than I hear it. I can speak it fairly well, and my accent is impressive, so I've been told!
Oui, moi aussi!
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Grammy Cracker Mon, May 19, 2008 7:25:52pm |
re: #168 ameridan
Wow, you don't look or act your age.
Not bad for 118, eh? LOL
It only SEEMS like 100 years ago.....
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Opinionated Mon, May 19, 2008 7:26:25pm |
re: #134 Kosh's Shadow
Prime Minister Ehud Olmert has said in recent closed-door meetings while adding that he is letting the process play out in order to show respect for the Egyptian leadership.
I don't know exactly when it occurred but one morning I woke up in an alternate universe.
A universe where a young novice politician who hangs around with American haters may be elected President in time of war and economic distress and where the PM of Israel is willing to put his nation at risk and allow Jewish blood to flow in the streets in order to "respect" an Arab tyrant and enemy of Israel.
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Mormon Doc Mon, May 19, 2008 7:28:40pm |
I wondered who Obama was getting his foreign policy advice from. Now I know.
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ggt Mon, May 19, 2008 7:31:28pm |
Now, what are you-all doing down here when there is a perfectly good techie thread upstairs?
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Daryl Herbert Mon, May 19, 2008 7:34:14pm |
Yes, but just imagine how bad the situation would be if France wasn't meeting with them!
(Seriously, though, this is exactly what Bush was talking about in his speech before the Knesset.)
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Bosch Fawstin Mon, May 19, 2008 7:35:53pm |
Can't wait 'till Israel has Full contact with Hamas once and for all. It's unreal what the civilized world is willing to take from the scum of the earth. Meeting with terrorists for any other reason than to destroy them makes them stronger. We will learn this when we've endured enough.
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, May 19, 2008 7:36:12pm |
re: #172 Mormon Doc
I wondered who Obama was getting his foreign policy advice from. Now I know.
Who? Stan?
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Grammy Cracker Mon, May 19, 2008 7:37:41pm |
re: #167 goddessoftheclassroom
I read it better than I hear it. I can speak it fairly well, and my accent is impressive, so I've been told!
A funny story to tie the German and French together...
When visiting Rothenburg, Germany, we stayed at a beautiful little inn with a very nice restaurant. None of us spoke any German, so we couldn't read the menus. The manager spoke almost no English, but he indicated that he understood the problem and brought one new menu to the table, which he gave to me.
I managed to suppress my giggles until he walked away; the menu he proudly gave me was in Italian! Luckily, I adore Italian food and can at least read the menu item basics...."that one is fish,....no, that one is beef..." We all had a good meal, and a great time.
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nyc redneck Mon, May 19, 2008 7:41:50pm |
re: #176 Bosch Fawstin
Can't wait 'till Israel has Full contact with Hamas once and for all. It's unreal what the civilized world is willing to take from the scum of the earth. Meeting with terrorists for any other reason than to destroy them makes them stronger. We will learn this when we've endured enough.
perfect
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ameridan Mon, May 19, 2008 7:44:42pm |
re: #178 Grammy Cracker
Luckily, I adore Italian food
I thought the French were food snobs and only served French foods(like french fries, snails, etc.).
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Sunlight Mon, May 19, 2008 7:48:33pm |
TANKS? Who knew?
Egyptian FM: US, Israeli tanks make Mideast unstable
This Egyptian foreign minister seems totally baffled as to why there isn't peace between the Palis and Egypt. If only the Israelis wanted it. And if they can't get it together within 10 years, then, well, he figures a one state solution should be imposed.
Not a word about rockets and bombers over Israel's borders... probably because those are normal occurrences in his own society. By insisting on no dead people in the streets caused by the neighbors, Israel is asking for special treatment! And this guy is just frustrated and baffled by that. Look in the mirror, Mr. Aboul Geiht. It's your attitudes that leave your people in misery, poverty, death.
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ameridan Mon, May 19, 2008 7:49:27pm |
re: #180 ameridan
I thought the French were food snobs and only served French foods(like french fries, snails, etc.).
Upon further review, I see that you were in Germany.
All those European countries look alike to me.
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brainwizard73 Mon, May 19, 2008 7:53:30pm |
re: #134 Kosh's Shadow
Reposted from an earlier thread; more relevant here.
Hamas is at their fake truce stuff again.
First, Olmert skeptical of cease-fire, but going along for Mubarak
Funny, I haven't heard of any Palestinan party making any form of concession to Israel, short of not destroying Israel right now (because they're too weak)I'm sure Jimmy Carter and B. Hussein Obama are ready to negotiate with Hamas, without preconditions, though.
Will they be negotiating in French?
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, May 19, 2008 8:09:29pm |
re: #181 Sunlight
TANKS? Who knew?
Egyptian FM: US, Israeli tanks make Mideast unstableThis Egyptian foreign minister seems totally baffled as to why there isn't peace between the Palis and Egypt. If only the Israelis wanted it. And if they can't get it together within 10 years, then, well, he figures a one state solution should be imposed.
Not a word about rockets and bombers over Israel's borders... probably because those are normal occurrences in his own society. By insisting on no dead people in the streets caused by the neighbors, Israel is asking for special treatment! And this guy is just frustrated and baffled by that. Look in the mirror, Mr. Aboul Geiht. It's your attitudes that leave your people in misery, poverty, death.
If the Israelis wanted death the way the Palestinians do, there would be peace. And 7 million dead Israelis.
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LEGION Mon, May 19, 2008 8:36:48pm |
Nope- not surprised at all- the fwench show their true colors- or color- YELLOW.
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kevinmumaw Mon, May 19, 2008 8:45:35pm |
Didn't France have informal contact with Hitler before they were conquered...yet again?
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Pass The Moonbaticide Tue, May 20, 2008 2:52:54am |
'Informal Contact' : Is that a new euphemism meaning 'Grovel to' ?
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Ledger1 Tue, May 20, 2008 4:01:14am |
re: #55 Sarge1984
Okay, in the spirit of some of the comments, Blackfive's Encounter with a French General.
Yeh, I read that when Matt first posted it 5 years ago and I still think it is funny.
[Matt of B5 discussing M1A1 Abrams with a French Gen.]
The Captain, exasperated as well, just mumbled, "He says that it is inferior to the Leclerc (French) tank. That's all."
My incredulous voice went up a few decibels, "Inferior?!", a few more decibels, "Why?! Because it doesn't have three gears for REVERSE?"
The smile on the M1A1's Sergeant's face was priceless. However, the Captain turned white as a ghost. I could read the "Oh SH#T!" look on his face. General Jannier looked stunned, then you could see his eyes narrowed on me, his smirk faded into a sneer.
The Army Captain's face tightened up. He turned to me to address me directly, "Lieutenant, General Jannier can speak English. HE...JUST...CHOOSES...NOT...TO!"
I was replaced by another escort officer (faster than you can say "Your career is OVER!"), told to stay in my quarters, received a General Letter of Reprimand for pissing off an allied General Officer (conduct unbecoming), and ordered to stay away from all French nationals on base.
All Things French - Blackfive's Encounter with a French Army General
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Ledger1 Tue, May 20, 2008 4:05:06am |
The “3 speeds of reverse” could be rephrased as “3 speeds of retreat.”
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Cygnus Tue, May 20, 2008 6:37:03am |
re: #41 nyc redneck
how long did it take the nazis to take paris?
three days and that's because it was raining.
Why did the French plant all those trees along the Champs D'Elysees?
So the Nazis could march in the shade.
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