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Mon, May 19, 2008 at 9:03:00 pm PDT

More principled dissent from the idiot left: Digg - Why Little Green Footballs Sucks — ‘Frances Loves Hamas’.

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1 lobo91  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:05:23pm

Umm...okay, then.

2 infidel Alan  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:05:27pm

Like, who cares?

3 rawmuse  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:05:28pm

Hey sweetie, coming from you, it means nothing.

4 6pat6  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:05:40pm

Strange people.

5 bosforus  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:06:12pm

Who, exactly, writes these posts for digg? Is this just some random person registered with Digg?

6 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:06:23pm
7 Yankee Division Son  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:06:29pm

Charles! Where's my check?!

8 LEGION  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:06:42pm

Just ignore the little man behind the curtains at Digg Inc.

9 lobo91  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:06:45pm
profiteers of divisiveness, xenophobia, irrational paranoia, misinformation

Rotating title nomination.

10 6pat6  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:06:57pm

I think it's just some random person, period. One of those half-human/half-camel experiments, perhaps?

11 bystander  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:07:24pm

1 hour, 13 minutes and three measly comments on that DIGG thread. LGF gets, what, a hundred a minute?

12 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:07:27pm

"None of you homos touch my stuff! And don't call me Frances."

13 Fenway_Nation  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:08:01pm
But then again I hate all profiteers of divisiveness, xenophobia, irrational paranoia, misinformation and basically anybody who knowingly makes the world a stupider place to live in for profit.

So is it safe to assume that he hates Arafat and Nasrallah, too?

14 BGOH  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:08:08pm

Charles, let it be known publicly that I profit greatly on an intellectual level from your "divisiveness, xenophobia, irrational paranoia, [and] misinformation."

I proclaim this loudly from the mountaintops of freedom and liberty.

15 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:08:31pm

Who's Frances?

16 Spiny Norman  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:09:00pm

Po' widdle babies got their widdle noses bent outta shape.

Intellectual infants.

17 Mich-again  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:09:11pm
But then again I hate all profiteers of divisiveness, xenophobia, irrational paranoia, misinformation and basically anybody who knowingly makes the world a stupider place to live in for profit

This longtime Lizard agrees wholeheartedly. Too bad Digg is the lefts' Porta Pottie. Drop in and pee.

18 x-ray  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:09:15pm
Frances


Is that the plural of France or a name?

19 Spiny Norman  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:10:08pm

re: #13 Fenway_Nation

So is it safe to assume that he hates Arafat and Nasrallah, too?

"Resistance heroes".

Ain't public education grand?

20 Catttt  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:10:16pm

I don't get it. Does anyone get it?

Plus I really don't understand why so many people use the word "suck" as an epithet but like being sucked.

21 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:10:17pm
22 Sharmuta  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:10:20pm

re: #15 MandyManners

Who's Frances?

LMAO!

23 x-ray  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:10:31pm

re: #18 x-ray

I hope it's a name since I don't want to think of a world with more than one France.

24 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:10:45pm

re: #15 MandyManners

Who's Frances?

25 bosforus  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:11:11pm

The irony in this is that this person accuses of lgf of profiting off of divisiveness when in actuality it profits off of those who oppose terrorism and this one post is profiting off of hating people for practicing their freedom of speech. One is legit, the other is the rant of some random idiot.

26 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:11:19pm
27 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:12:20pm

re: #24 karmic_inquisitor

[Link: youtube.com...]

at 2:11

28 katemaclaren  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:12:52pm

re: #15 MandyManners

Who's Frances?

The Talking Mule Donkey?

29 Neo Con since 9-11  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:12:59pm

LGF hatres haz Blog

30 Sharmuta  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:13:09pm

re: #15 MandyManners

Who's Frances?

Mandy, really. You should be ashamed of capitalizing on this diggbat's typos.

/

31 LEGION  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:13:21pm

re: #12 karmic_inquisitor

That's a fact JACK! We're 10 & 1!

32 katemaclaren  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:13:42pm

re: #23 x-ray

I hope it's a name since I don't want to think of a world with more than one France.

lol

33 x-ray  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:13:47pm

re: #28 katemaclaren

The Talking Mule Donkey

Ass?

34 Mich-again  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:14:26pm

re: #15 MandyManners

Who's Frances?

In the movie "Stripes" Sgt. Hulka had that classic line. "Lighten up Francis."

35 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:14:37pm

re: #20 Cattt

I don't get it. Does anyone get it?

Plus I really don't understand why so many people use the word "suck" as an epithet but like being sucked.

It's all about misogyny, Cattt.

I could start with a tale about how grand it is to have a penis but to feel ashamed about having "certain feelings" as a youth.

Goodness. Let's not got there.

36 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:14:45pm

re: #15 MandyManners

Who's Frances?

Maybe they meant Francis the Talking Mule
But I doubt it.

37 katemaclaren  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:14:53pm

re: #33 x-ray

Ass?

Oh MUCH better! Thanks!

38 Jefiner  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:15:05pm

With these silly people in mind, is there any news about le petit idiot, non_croyant?

39 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:16:09pm

Digg.com, an unworthy opponent, barely worth noticing. No need to wonder why they are what they are...

Gotta Digg

/WTF?! Senator Ron Paul?!

She does have a lovely singin' voice, though.

40 Macker  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:16:10pm

I'm surprised this writer didn't call LGF Late German Fascists...

41 Sharmuta  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:16:19pm

re: #29 Neo Con since 9-11

LGF hatres haz Blog

Is this some kind of a moby post at digg? His blog roll isn't bad.

42 Glen Wishard  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:16:32pm
Who's Frances?

Must be a new politically correct term for "Frenchmen".

43 hermeneutics  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:16:55pm

re: #20 Cattt

I don't get it. Does anyone get it?

Plus I really don't understand why so many people use the word "suck" as an epithet but like being sucked.

Cattt! Shhh. :)

44 Catttt  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:16:59pm

re: #28 katemaclaren

The Talking Mule Donkey?

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought of Francis the talking mule. Francis would not love Hamas - I'm sure of that.

45 katemaclaren  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:17:18pm

re: #38 Jefiner

OT--is your cat the Avatar? Looks my shaded silver kitten, Lucy. Only Lucy doesn't use a helmet.

46 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:17:34pm

re: #38 Jefiner

With these silly people in mind, is there any news about le petit idiot, non_croyant?

Do you know this poor critter?

47 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:17:53pm
48 The Other Les  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:17:57pm

re: #39 Slumbering Behemoth

I think he ran for the senates once and lost.

49 Sarge1984  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:18:05pm

Oh, that's funny. That's the entire post!

I have a feeling whoever posted that will get a case of stairway repartee before long!

50 Spiny Norman  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:18:09pm

re: #12 karmic_inquisitor

"None of you homos touch my stuff! And don't call me Frances."

Lighten up Frances!

51 Legion  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:18:44pm

Ahhh Stripes- Top 10 movie from my youth- Bill Murray was a gas. Francis' friends call him "Psycho".

52 DesertSage  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:19:23pm

Who's Frances?

53 BlueCanuck  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:19:30pm

Good Morning all. Night shift checking in. It's so good to see we're being appreciated by lefty's. Why if it wasn't for them we wouldn't know how much we hate all the rest of the world.

54 Legion  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:19:55pm

Too many YOUNG people here-- deep sigh!

55 DesertSage  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:20:10pm

re: #52 DesertSage

Who's Frances?

I see Mandy already asked that question.

56 Catttt  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:20:35pm

re: #35 MandyManners

It's all about misogyny, Cattt.

I could start with a tale about how grand it is to have a penis but to feel ashamed about having "certain feelings" as a youth.

Goodness. Let's not got there.

I think I see what you mean. Men can certainly be confusing.

57 jaunte  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:20:50pm

commenter fillmore sez:
"Remember, every time an unsuspecting person clicks through to LGF, it just feeds the beast instead of starving it."

/Someone tell him he's been quoted.

58 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:20:52pm
59 The Other Les  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:21:04pm

re: #54 Legion

Too many YOUNG people here-- deep sigh!

Depends on gender. But then I'm biased.

60 gman  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:21:21pm

re: #41 Sharmuta

Is this some kind of a moby post at digg? His blog roll isn't bad.

the blog doesn't match the diggs

61 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:21:27pm
62 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:21:41pm

re: #56 Cattt

I think I see what you mean. Men can certainly be confusing.

But, they're awfully fun to snuggle.

63 Legion  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:21:44pm

Karmic Inquisitor already answered Mandy in #27- watch YouTube clip.

64 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:21:54pm

re: #17 Mich-again

This longtime Lizard agrees wholeheartedly. Too bad Digg is the lefts' Porta Pottie. Drop in and pee.

I thought that Kos was the left's Porta Pottie?

65 nigella  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:22:22pm

Anybody calls me Francis their dead. Sargent Hulka"lighten up Francis."...Love that movie

66 Tigger2005  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:23:30pm
But then again I hate all profiteers of divisiveness, xenophobia, irrational paranoia, misinformation

Sounds like Rev. Wright and Barry.

67 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:23:35pm

re: #56 Cattt

I think I see what you mean. Men can certainly be confusing.

I thinki'd be fun to be a man for a day. I'd like to see what it's like to pee standing up and to have sex as a man. I wonder if i'd dress to the left or right.

68 hermeneutics  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:23:41pm

OT -- can someone explain "twitter" to me and how it impacts newsgathering?

69 Sharmuta  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:23:45pm

re: #60 gman

the blog doesn't match the diggs

It doesn't- it's really strange. Maybe there is more than one bull cutter?

70 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:23:52pm
71 The Other Les  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:23:53pm

re: #64 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

The Left urinates anywhere it wants to.

72 Catttt  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:23:58pm

re: #38 Jefiner

With these silly people in mind, is there any news about le petit idiot, non_croyant?

This digg person actually reminded me of non_croyant - most of its diggs are conservativish, but it appears to bear enmity for lizarddom.

73 katemaclaren  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:24:40pm

re: #54 Legion

Too many YOUNG people here-- deep sigh!

hahaha--the sad thing is...? They're not that young! Boy, am I feeling ancient. I'd better lighten up!

74 Abu Bin Squid  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:24:50pm

"L" on the forehead. My daughter says it means loser.

/like I should know :)

75 realwest  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:25:05pm

re: #52 DesertSage Either the Talking Mule, Bill Murray in "Stripes" or, apparently, a collection of people from France!

76 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:25:49pm

People actually pay attention to Digg?

77 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:25:54pm

Well night all!

78 Legion  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:26:13pm

Lets switch movies---Let's see if you can guess what I am- (stuffs jello and cream puffs in cheeks and then pushes them out spewing food on all) I'm a zit- get it? FOOD FIGHT!
We should do this to the dumbo at Digg.

79 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:26:19pm
80 DesertSage  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:26:45pm

Lefty loves to hate.
I see that word all over the Leftosphere. They 'hate' this, they 'hate' that.

They 'hate' just about everything!

I hardly ever see that word bandied about here at LGF. We disagree with positions, policies, and certain ideologies...but rarely do we ever 'hate' someone or something.
Lefty's heart is filled with hate...it must really suck to be them.

81 realwest  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:27:32pm

re: #67 The Pulchritudinous Patriot Uh, are you right or left handed?

82 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:27:34pm

re: #70 song_and_dance_man

Where is the love?

Right here, Fred.

83 katemaclaren  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:28:01pm

Well, sweet dreams everyone. I am on the "right" coast--and the witching hour is half past. I have an early morning class to teach--Summer semester--why oh why did I sign on for it?

84 JeremyR  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:28:07pm

re: #28 katemaclaren

The Talking Mule Donkey?

Guess again, even the donkmessiah says nothing when he talks.

85 hermeneutics  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:28:21pm

re: #79 song_and_dance_man

To be, or not to be: that is the question:
Twitter 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous digging.
Or to take arms against a sea of bloggers,
And by opposing end them? To die: to sleep;

No more; and by a dig to say we end
the heart-ache and the thousand natural digs
That flesh is heir to, "tis a diggumation
devoutly to be wish'd. To die. To dig.

86 Catttt  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:28:43pm

My mother met Chill Wills once. (Voice of Francis the talking mule for you children)

When you live in the rural Rockies, you don't meet a lot of celebs, so it was a big deal to her.

87 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:29:21pm
88 hermeneutics  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:29:40pm

re: #83 katemaclaren

Don't go yet. What are you teaching? Fun?

89 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:30:29pm

re: #48 The Other Les

I think he ran for the senates once and lost.

The "WTF?!" part I added is because Paul is a congressman. A point that young lady would likely be aware of if she ever bothered to "RTFA" instead of just mindlessly "Digging" them.

90 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:30:54pm

WASHINGTON - The Supreme Court on Monday ruled against an Algerian convicted of conspiring to detonate explosives at Los Angeles International Airport during the millenium holiday travel rush.

In its 8-1 decision, the court upheld Ahmed Ressam's conviction on an explosives charge, one of nine convictions that resulted in a 22-year prison sentence. At issue was whether Ressam should be convicted of carrying explosives during the commission of another serious crime, in Ressam's case, lying on a U.S. Customs form when he crossed the border in December 1999.

SNIP

91 LEGION  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:31:06pm

Wow- don't all guess at once! Yesh! Well as I'm on the right coast also, I'll clue ya in before I split also- Animal House.

92 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:31:30pm

re: #87 song_and_dance_man

Can I have this dance?

You betcha'!

93 x-ray  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:31:47pm

If there is a frances than here is it's opposite.

Not completely in tune with the conversation but I'll shoehorn it in anyways.

94 FreckleFaceFourEyes  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:32:01pm

I wish I could keep up with comments at LGF! There's just not enough time in the day. ARRRGH

I know this is all just a rabbit trail off the thread, but I just want to say how much I appreciate how folks can actually have DISCUSSION here at LGF. Certainly not so in many corners of the net.

95 Catttt  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:32:18pm

re: #67 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

There's a little thingybob you can get at sporting goods stores - so you can pee standing up. I really hate dropping trou to pee in the woods. I think the army invented it (the thingybob, that is).

Re the other thing - never mind. :D

96 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:32:38pm

This is awesome.

97 realwest  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:33:24pm

re: #93 x-ray Glad you did shoehorn it in! Great story, just really great!
Thank you.

98 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:33:33pm
99 DesertSage  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:33:40pm

Lefty just hates everything.

100 x-ray  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:33:44pm

re: #78 Legion

Bluto in Animal house.

101 hermeneutics  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:34:16pm

re: #95 Cattt

A few weeks ago someone on LGF claimed that her entire female family stood like men when they peed.

I'd fill my shoes.

102 Spiny Norman  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:34:23pm

re: #64 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

re: #17 Mich-again
This longtime Lizard agrees wholeheartedly. Too bad Digg is the lefts' Porta Pottie. Drop in and pee.

I thought that Kos was the left's Porta Pottie?

Overflowing latrine.

103 Sarge1984  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:34:44pm

re: #95 Cattt

I think this is the first peeing thread I've seen on here...

104 hermeneutics  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:34:46pm

re: #98 song_and_dance_man

YOU WIN!

105 jaunte  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:35:35pm

re: #99 DesertSage
Lefty just wants free *** asterisks.

106 Plumed Basilisk  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:35:48pm

Hey I'm not French and I love ham ass - who wouldn't like bacon?

/drops to the floor and slinks from the room - apologizing for interrupting the serious tone of the conversation. - sorry couldn't resist.

107 hermeneutics  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:35:59pm

re: #94 FreckleFaceFourEyes

Why not add your $0.02 ... please.

108 realwest  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:36:03pm

re: #99 DesertSage Hey Sage! How's it going for ya tonight?
Oh and btw, y'all have e-mail!

109 TheMedianSib  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:36:17pm
But then again I hate all profiteers of divisiveness, xenophobia, irrational paranoia, misinformation and basically anybody who knowingly makes the world a stupider place to live in for profit

A typical lefty rant - namecalling up a storm. And they have no clue how ridiculous they are leaving divisive and parnoid comments accusing someone else of being devisive and paranoid. What could be "stupider" than that?

110 pat  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:36:41pm

Mandy, I would love to dancewith you.
Topically, this is a very silly, and a bit ignorant, person.I do not approve.

111 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:37:13pm
112 realwest  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:37:19pm

re: #90 MandyManners
Did y'all post that on the prior thread? I mean I know I'm getting older and have taken all my meds, but I could swear I saw that on the prior thread!

113 Spiny Norman  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:37:29pm

re: #101 hermeneutics

A few weeks ago someone on LGF claimed that her entire female family stood like men when they peed.

I'd fill my shoes.

My ex-girlfriend could use a urinal. Quite well, actually. She'd just lean back a bit, angle her hips a bit, and away she'd go. I thought it was pretty funny at the time.

Why, yes, alcohol was involved. Why do you ask?

114 jaunte  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:37:50pm

re: #109 TheMedianSib

I'm not sure if it had a specific whine, or was just kicking randomly.

115 Catttt  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:37:55pm

re: #90 MandyManners

Clinton appointee Justice Stephen Breyer was the lone dissenter.

116 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:38:07pm

Can I brag just a bit about the fine young man I'm trying to raise?

As we were walking to the car after BEATING THE SNOT OUT OF THE NO. 1 RANKED TEAM TONIGHT, he looked up at the moon and started speaking about it in English, French and Spanish.

I got him and his bat-bag thingy secured. I drove toward home.

He asked me why "those Muslims crashed two plains."

I explained. He said that the Pennsylvania passengers were "cool."

My heart swelled greatly and immediately.

117 Sarge1984  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:38:22pm

re: #111 song_and_dance_man

Hey, sailor. New in town? ;)

118 Killgore Trout  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:38:26pm

Maybe they can be appeased.
/

119 Abu Bin Squid  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:39:05pm

"Love's Theme" reminds me of golf on ABC, back in the day. Just how sad is that? (Rhetorical)

Also reminds me of just why I love the guitar so much. What great muted sound.

120 U.S.S. Nixon  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:39:06pm

What a bunch of simps

121 hermeneutics  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:39:29pm

re: #113 Spiny Norman

Many years ago I was in Tehran -- don't ask -- and I saw women in chador standing in the long, gutter-like sanitation drain. Just standing there. When I looked closer, I could see a little trickle of water emerging underneath their long gowns.

They just stood as if nothing was happening.

122 Tarkus289  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:39:30pm

re: #116 MandyManners

The future just got a little brighter

123 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:39:32pm

re: #15 MandyManners

Who's Frances?

We were talking about the movie "Fargo" a few threads ago. Frances McDormand.

124 realwest  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:39:39pm

re: #99 DesertSage
Uh, not if its free. Lefty likes everything that's free.

125 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:39:50pm

re: #106 Plumed Basilisk

Hey I'm not French and I love ham ass - who wouldn't like bacon?

/drops to the floor and slinks from the room - apologizing for interrupting the serious tone of the conversation. - sorry couldn't resist.

*whack*

Sorta'.

Keep on posting, PB!

Please.

126 Spiny Norman  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:40:13pm

re: #103 Sarge1984

I think this is the first peeing thread I've seen on here...

On that subject:

6:28 p.m. A man who complained that he’d been assaulted and his backpack stolen at an I Street store was no day at the beach himself, with his mohawk hairdo, blue trench coat and verbally abusive comments. He wasn’t helpful in resolving the complaint, and was asked to leave.

9:29 p.m. In the same parking lot, two booze-emboldened men harassed passing women, setting a bad example for their canine companion. Then they wandered on.

9:33 p.m. Maybe it was the same free-lance theoretical physicists, who, just minutes later, performed practical experimentation with fluid dynamics against the wall of an antiquarian bookstore in the 1000 block of H Street.

Heh.

127 Sarge1984  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:40:14pm

re: #116 MandyManners

Good on ya! And the man-child, too!

but..."bat-bag thingy"?

128 Catttt  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:40:20pm

re: #101 hermeneutics

A few weeks ago someone on LGF claimed that her entire female family stood like men when they peed.

I'd fill my shoes.

Those women could make a lot of money in show biz. :D

129 6pat6  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:40:30pm

re: #18 x-ray

French's = Mustard
Frances = someone's name
France = A whacked-out EuroIslamo nation

Or, something like that, anyway!

130 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:40:34pm

re: #112 realwest

Did y'all post that on the prior thread? I mean I know I'm getting older and have taken all my meds, but I could swear I saw that on the prior thread!

Yes, it was on the prior thread.

131 x-ray  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:40:48pm

re: #97 realwest

Blackfive wads hitting on all cylinders today. There were at least three stories just as good. The Hitmen video was awesome.

132 hermeneutics  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:40:49pm

re: #116 MandyManners

What a wonderful son you have, Mandy. I hope he runs for political office some day.

133 Sarge1984  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:41:04pm

re: #124 realwest

Uh, not if its free. Lefty likes everything that's free.

Lefty Just Wants Free Stuff™!

134 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:41:11pm

re: #115 Cattt

Clinton appointee Justice Stephen Breyer was the lone dissenter.

There you go.

135 DesertSage  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:41:44pm

re: #108 realwest

Hey RW! How are you this fine, warm evening?

BTW, you've got mail.

136 Shiplord kirel  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:41:45pm

"Frances Loves Hamas"

Perhaps the outraged one is thinking of Francis the Talking Mule and just got the spelling wrong (all too easy for the gender-indentity challenged). A distant relative perhaps?

137 jaunte  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:41:52pm

re: #121 hermeneutics

Wasn't that function the origin of the female covering in arabic culture, back in the 600's?

138 6pat6  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:42:18pm

re: #136 Shiplord kirel

Oh, hell, I forgot about Francis!

139 Sarge1984  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:42:44pm

re: #126 Spiny Norman

Oh, that's good. Freelance theoretical physicists.

That's, like, a rocket handyman.

140 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:42:49pm

re: #99 DesertSage

Lefty just hates everything.

Now, you of all people should know that's not true. They love free stuff, and of course fake stuff.

141 x-ray  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:43:19pm

re: #124 realwest

Uh, not if its free. Lefty likes everything that's free.

That must be why they hate Freedom so much.

142 hermeneutics  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:43:31pm

re: #137 jaunte

I have no idea if that was its original function. If it was, well, I guess they could have adjusted the clothing better. Why cover a woman's face, for instance?

143 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:44:41pm
144 jaunte  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:44:52pm

re: #142 hermeneutics

I think the customs have shifted through the years, but I remember reading
that originally it was for modesty. Not many shrubs in the desert.

145 Shiplord kirel  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:45:01pm

re: #99 DesertSage

Lefty just hates everything.


Nah, they love Hamas. (and Che and Kim and Zimbob Mugabe and anyplace where soap and toilet paper are considered to be bourgeois affectations)

146 Jefiner  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:45:12pm

re: #46 MandyManners

Do you know this poor critter?

Sorry, had to step away for a moment.

No, just hoping that Charles had been able to follow up with the university regarding la petite non_croyant. This guy is just a seething mass of negative karma--the kind that could bust through a classroom door sporting firearms and an obscure death wish.

147 realwest  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:45:31pm

re: #116 MandyManners
I sure sounds like you're doing a fine job of raising your son, Mandy! Congratulations!

148 Sarge1984  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:45:39pm

re: #126 Spiny Norman

Matter of fact, I just favorited their page. That's teh funny.

149 DesertSage  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:45:58pm

re: #140 Slumbering Behemoth

Now, you of all people should know that's not true. They love free stuff, and of course fake stuff.

I stand corrected, I of all people should have known better.

Lefty Just Wants Free Stuff.

150 Shiplord kirel  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:46:06pm

re: #146 Jefiner

Sorry, had to step away for a moment.

No, just hoping that Charles had been able to follow up with the university regarding la petite non_croyant. This guy is just a seething mass of negative karma--the kind that could bust through a classroom door sporting firearms and an obscure death wish.


If he starts denouncing our debaucheries, I'll call the FBI.

151 AllBoysMom  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:46:39pm

Uumm Spiny...How much liquor and are you real certain that your ex was truly a girl? I hear they can do remarkable things now with sex changes. Just a thought...

152 6pat6  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:47:05pm

Lefty diggs free!
Lefty hates work.
Lefty hates good.
Lefty loves scum.
Lefty loves misery.
Lefty hates life.
Lefty loves apologizing.
Lefty loves appeasement.
Lefty loves self-esteem.
Lefty hates criticism of Lefty.
Lefty hates Right.
Lefty hates self.
Left loves foolishness.
Lefty hates religion (except islam).

153 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:47:36pm

re: #146 Jefiner

Sorry, had to step away for a moment.

No, just hoping that Charles had been able to follow up with the university regarding la petite non_croyant. This guy is just a seething mass of negative karma--the kind that could bust through a classroom door sporting firearms and an obscure death wish.

I hit the REPORT button when I read your post.

Not to report you but, the content of your post.

154 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:47:42pm
155 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:48:26pm

re: #152 6pat6

Lefty diggs free!
Lefty hates work.
Lefty hates good.
Lefty loves scum.
Lefty loves misery.
Lefty hates life.
Lefty loves apologizing.
Lefty loves appeasement.
Lefty loves self-esteem.
Lefty hates criticism of Lefty.
Lefty hates Right.
Lefty hates self.
Left loves foolishness.
Lefty hates religion (except islam).

/Phil Mickelson?

156 realwest  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:48:33pm

re: #135 DesertSage I'm doing ok, thanks my friend, but I'm about ready to go to sleep about now! LOL!
Oh and btw, now you have mail, again! LOL!

157 6pat6  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:48:46pm

LOL!

158 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:49:09pm

re: #146 Jefiner

Sorry, had to step away for a moment.

No, just hoping that Charles had been able to follow up with the university regarding la petite non_croyant. This guy is just a seething mass of negative karma--the kind that could bust through a classroom door sporting firearms and an obscure death wish.

Anyone else?

159 pat  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:49:38pm

Souter, the Gay Priest, and Breyer, the Quilty White Richman, are really intellectually challenged. That is why they constantly stretch the legal envelope to include their proclivities. These 2 are really beyond education or princiiple. Their pretense at intellectuallism, disquised as novelty, is sickening. Sortn of like watching Obama or hillary talking of their 'poor' upbringing.

160 Jefiner  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:49:59pm

re: #153 MandyManners

I hit the REPORT button when I read your post.

Not to report you but, the content of your post.

egads!

161 Killian Bundy  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:51:00pm

re: #96 karmic_inquisitor

This is awesome.

/do they do combat tours?

162 Spiny Norman  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:51:11pm

re: #121 hermeneutics

Many years ago I was in Tehran -- don't ask -- and I saw women in chador standing in the long, gutter-like sanitation drain. Just standing there. When I looked closer, I could see a little trickle of water emerging underneath their long gowns.

They just stood as if nothing was happening.

I guess there weren't any signs like this: Prohibited.

::WARNING::

Probably NOT SAFE FOR WORK.

::WARNING::

163 Intrepid  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:51:32pm

Wait - we're supposed to be receiving profits here? Is that in addition to our Zionist checks? WooHoo! We're rich!

See ya'll - xenophobic racemongering really DOES pay off!

/

164 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:51:34pm

OT -

TNR has a story "linking" Obama to Teamster corruption and the Chicago mob. All sorts of deniability, but Barak certainly can't claim "judgment" and "new, clean government" after this one.

[Link: tnr.com...]

Also posted the spinoff.

165 Bob in Breckenridge  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:51:36pm

re: #159 pat

Souter, the Gay Priest, and Breyer, the Quilty White Richman, are really intellectually challenged. That is why they constantly stretch the legal envelope to include their proclivities. These 2 are really beyond education or princiiple. Their pretense at intellectuallism, disquised as novelty, is sickening. Sortn of like watching Obama or hillary talking of their 'poor' upbringing.

Why the "Gay Priest" reference?

166 realwest  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:51:36pm

re: #146 Jefiner Hi! Last I heard, Charles had gotten a not-quite-form letter back saying they were investigating this matter - but he may have made a later post which I missed.

167 6pat6  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:51:43pm

My evening of fun is done. Y'all have fun. Righty likes fun. I like fun. Fun is done.

168 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:51:50pm

re: #160 Jefiner

egads!

You posted something that must be reported.

169 Noam Sayin'  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:51:56pm

re: #118 Killgore Trout

Maybe they can be appeased.
/

That would be an interesting experiment. Go into a lefty blog on the pretense of dialog, and see how far you get.

170 jaunte  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:52:36pm

re: #162 Spiny Norman

That's a strange sign. "Come on in and relax against this X-shaped chairback."

171 hermeneutics  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:52:36pm

re: #162 Spiny Norman

What is he sitting on?

172 Jefiner  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:52:39pm

re: #162 Spiny Norman

I guess there weren't any signs like this: Prohibited.

::WARNING::

Probably NOT SAFE FOR WORK.

::WARNING::


hmmm. . . seeing little human landmines all round there, too . . .

Humanure!

173 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:52:43pm

re: #161 Killian Bundy

/do they do combat tours?

In "related" there is a clip of them in France. So ... yes!

174 Intrepid  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:53:47pm

re: #15 MandyManners

Who's Frances?

And is "Frances" a girl's name or a boy's? Which is which - Frances/Francis, male female?

Never could get it straight!

175 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:54:41pm
176 realwest  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:54:59pm

re: #141 x-ray I'm not sure why, but you're certainly right about lefty hating freedom - for everyone else, anyway. And a typical lefties concern for poor, hungry, suffering people in Africa or other "Third-World" places is about level to cow-piss on a flat rock.
All Lefty really want's is POWER and will do ANYTHING to get it.

177 Jefiner  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:55:02pm

Off to drain the dogs, then to bed.

Have a good evening!

178 FreckleFaceFourEyes  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:55:48pm

re: #107 hermeneutics

Why not add your $0.02 ... please.


I have to be honest, I often times can't keep as upbeat as most of you while trying to wade through all the vitriol strewn throughout both the mainstream media and the blogosphere. It's refreshing how so many folks here can keep a cool head in the face of such hate, paraded as some kind of perverted love.

In regards to this Digg post, as many have in other words communicated, it's the textbook case of accusing another party of your own crimes. Divisiveness, xenophobia, irrational paranoia, misinformation?
Seriously?

If we're resorting to playground politics, I'll lay down the trump card: Whoever smelt it, dealt it. :-D

179 realwest  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:56:24pm

re: #151 AllBoysMom
ROTFL! Good one!

180 hermeneutics  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:56:33pm

Mandy,
This is for your blog:

[Link: www.mcclatchydc.com...]

181 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:56:37pm
182 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:58:56pm
183 markie  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:59:10pm

re: #174 Intrepid

And is "Frances" a girl's name or a boy's? Which is which - Frances/Francis, male female?

Never could get it straight!

You must be youngsters. Francis was an ASS!

184 hermeneutics  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:59:19pm

re: #178 FreckleFaceFourEyes

Sometimes I think our upbeat discussion is more like galley-humor or the sort of jokes that surgeons tell while operating on a terminal patient.

Perhaps we laugh because we are painfully worried?

185 jaunte  Mon, May 19, 2008 9:59:43pm

re: #178 FreckleFaceFourEyes

One thing I've found that helps is to just get rid of the television.
It is good to have this place to come and vent, and discuss, and get news and opinion.

186 CapeCoddah  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:01:11pm

re: #174 Intrepid
Hey All
Intrepid, both of my maternal grandparents were named Such.
Grandad was Francis, and Gram is Frances.

187 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:01:44pm

re: #180 hermeneutics

Mandy,
This is for your blog:

[Link: www.mcclatchydc.com...]

My blog is about Islam's misogyny.

I know plenty about the other forms of DV. I wil not turn away from more knowledge about them but, my blog is about Islam and misogyny.

But, I do appreciate you, hermeneutics!

188 realwest  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:01:47pm

re: #169 Noam Sayin'
HEY NOAM! Um, Killgore had that little "/" indicating sarcasm there, but you're right - I've been bounced off DU for - get this, wanting to discuss Freedom of Speech (NO, I'm not joking) and got bounced off of Kos when I wanted to post something about how shitty (to put it VERY mildly) women are treated in most Islamic countries.

Say, how's the scooter working out for ya?!

189 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:02:18pm

re: #111 song_and_dance_man

I want to dance with almost everyone here.

Lone Star Texan and Slumbering Behemoth back off, this isn't for you.

Hehe hey! No argument from me, chief. For that sort of thing, I'd much prefer a song_and_dance_woman.

/not that there's anything wrong with that.

190 Sharmuta  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:02:18pm
Little Green Footballs is nothing but Neo-con spam.

What an incredibly intellectual argument.

191 hermeneutics  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:02:39pm

re: #187 MandyManners

Oops. Sorry. I'll tailor any citations in the future to your parameters.

192 FreckleFaceFourEyes  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:02:54pm

re: #185 jaunte
Agreed - just one reason I'm so glad the a recent brown-out nuked our only TV. Hahaha. Nature's jihad in my own living room.

193 jaunte  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:03:57pm

re: #187 MandyManners

One related point from Richard Landes (in the books spinoff link above).

"This absolutizing of cultural diversity, in which any criticism of another culture’s values becomes a form of racism is one of the great failures of “progressive” thought, and I do think a significant role can be attributed to Edward Said’s Orientalism in which any form of “othering” is a form of racism. This is particularly true of any discussion of honor-shame culture, which in turn makes any condemnation of honor-killing problematic. And, of course, since no progressive can possibly support honor-killings — especially feminists — it most often elicits a deafening silence."
194 zombie  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:04:06pm

OK, who's fluent in French idioms?

I just came into possession of a cute tea cup from France that has this phrase on it:

"Le plus fort l'emporte"

Direct literal translations ("The strongest carries it") don't exactly make sense. My best guess is that it is an idiomatic expression that means basically "The strongest prevail." It's a commemorative cup from the French bicentennial in 1989, so I suspect it was a famous Revolutionary slogan from 1789. Hmmm.

Anyway, hoping some native Francophone here can set me straight. My high-school French has failed me yet again.

195 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:04:45pm
196 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:05:17pm

re: #190 Sharmuta

If that were even remotely true, I'd be having scrambled eggs and diced green footballs for breakfast every morning.

/oh, that kind of spam

197 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:05:34pm

re: #193 jaunte

What?

198 Sarge1984  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:05:34pm

Uncle!

First Call comes early.

Weet dreams, y'all!

199 hermeneutics  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:05:46pm

Good night, Lizards. Sleep well and ponder deeply.

200 x-ray  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:05:56pm

re: #176 realwest

I'm not sure why, but you're certainly right about lefty hating freedom - for everyone else, anyway. And a typical lefties concern for poor, hungry, suffering people in Africa or other "Third-World" places is about level to cow-piss on a flat rock.
All Lefty really want's is POWER and will do ANYTHING to get it.

Freedom isn't free and the current crop of lefties will only sacrifice others too attain power.

I think that may be why they hate the military so much. Soldiers put their own lives on the line for their ideals. Leftists and Fascists brainwash others to die for their ideals.

201 jaunte  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:06:51pm

re: #194 zombie

Looks like they were making plates with the slogan in 1789:
[Link: www.atheisme.org...]

202 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:06:59pm

re: #191 hermeneutics

Oops. Sorry. I'll tailor any citations in the future to your parameters.

Stop it and stop it now!

203 CapeCoddah  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:08:12pm

Hey Mandy, how does one find your blog?

204 jaunte  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:08:22pm

re: #197 MandyManners

What?

Sidelight on your blog theme of islamo-misogyny; why progressives here have a hard time addressing it.

205 realwest  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:08:37pm

re: #195 MandyManners
Great song Mandy - excellent choice!
Thanks.

206 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:09:10pm

re: #203 CapeCoddah

Hey Mandy, how does one find your blog?

Not for a long time.

207 WrathofG-d  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:09:20pm

The AP and AD ("Arab Dictators") play from the same playbook: When in doubt, mention/blame Israel.

Reminds me of an story I once heard that I will give the shortest version of. Dean of Harvard is complaining that the Jews are all sharing notes, and thus need to be kicked out of school. Another faculty member exclaims "but ALL students share notes" The Dean quickly screams back "we aren't talking about ALL students...we are talking about the JEWS!"

208 CapeCoddah  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:09:49pm

re: #206 MandyManners
?

209 zombie  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:10:05pm

re: #201 jaunte

Looks like they were making plates with the slogan in 1789:
[Link: www.atheisme.org...]

Good find! Thanks!

So, it really was a 1789 phrase.

210 MandyManners  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:10:48pm

re: #204 jaunte

Sidelight on your blog theme of islamo-misogyny; why progressives here have a hard time addressing it.

211 realwest  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:11:07pm

re: #200 x-ray Actually I think they hate the Military because the Military stands in the way of their unbridled lust for power.

212 Sharmuta  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:14:21pm

re: #196 Slumbering Behemoth

If this guy was hoping to get an LGF hate thread going, he's been sorely let down.

213 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:14:46pm

re: #178 FreckleFaceFourEyes

If we're resorting to playground politics, I'll lay down the trump card: Whoever smelt it, dealt it. :-D

Love it. I'll be plagiarizing that in the future, just so you know.

214 realwest  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:15:50pm

re: #209 zombie See, High School French can come in handy! LOL!
That might indeed be a valuable piece, if only you could get a full translation - can you ask the person from whom you obtained it?

215 jaunte  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:16:25pm

re: #210 MandyManners

I like that one.

216 x-ray  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:17:27pm

re: #211 realwest

That would explain why they constantly push for a dumber class of Soldier.

217 realwest  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:20:06pm

re: #215 jaunte Hi juante my friend - yeah I like that a lot too (and thanked Mandy for it somewhere up thread). He may very well be a moonbat, but he at least used to be able to really write and was ok at singing songs.
I saw him perform that once in concert with Maurice Williams (of Maurice Williams and the Zodiacs) who did the original "Stay" - really great stuff!

218 CapeCoddah  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:20:49pm

OT, but I just went to Greta Van Susterns blog to participate in a poll she just mentioned on Fox, and clicked on the blog. Check out the first post, it is interesting.
[Link: gretawire.foxnews.com...]

219 realwest  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:21:26pm

re: #216 x-ray Yeah, well unless they get rid of the Service Academies, they're gonna be shit out of luck.

220 jaunte  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:22:19pm

re: #217 realwest

I saw him once in concert at the old Summit in Houston, (now a large church)
and once in a restaurant in LA having a fight with Darryl Hannah and her father at the next table. Liberal vs. conservative politics. I wish I had a tape recorder on me at the time.

221 x-ray  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:23:57pm
222 Sharmuta  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:24:01pm

re: #185 jaunte

One thing I've found that helps is to just get rid of the television.
It is good to have this place to come and vent, and discuss, and get news and opinion.

I have found life much improved without television. I still have one, for watching movies, and maybe some sports. I guess I'll watch the conventions and election returns on it too, but I really don't miss tv.

223 CapeCoddah  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:24:31pm

re: #218 CapeCoddahSorry, it moved, comment by Paige @1:12am

224 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:24:46pm

re: #212 Sharmuta

If this guy was hoping to get an LGF hate thread going, he's been sorely let down.

Epic Fail on bullcutter's part.

225 jaunte  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:26:48pm

re: #222 Sharmuta

It does tend to grab way too much attention when it's on.
That's what it was designed to do, and the people that work at designing the programming that way still keep the promise level high. It always failed to deliver though. One-eyed siren!

226 Noam Sayin'  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:27:40pm

re: #188 realwest

HEY NOAM! Um, Killgore had that little "/" indicating sarcasm there, but you're right - I've been bounced off DU for - get this, wanting to discuss Freedom of Speech (NO, I'm not joking) and got bounced off of Kos when I wanted to post something about how shitty (to put it VERY mildly) women are treated in most Islamic countries.

Say, how's the scooter working out for ya?!

I got bounced off Kos for calling Ted Kennedy an ass - on his very own thread, no less.

Just the same, I wish him a speedy recovery.

I haven't scooted since Wednesday night. I was in motorcycle riding class all weekend - so I was on a real bike. Going to get my motorcycle endorsement in the morning, and now I'm starting to think about buying a motorcycle, maybe this one.

227 realwest  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:29:10pm

re: #220 jaunte Hey juante - do you have that link handy about Obama's overseas "Americans" giving him campaign money? I want to post a link to it on Greta's open blog tonight (actually I'd rather you do it as I'm exhausted and have to get to sleep - just focus on all the money he's getting from Americans in the M.E., ESPECIALLY from all the American's in IRAN! (see link at #218).

228 jaunte  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:29:28pm

Goodnight all.

"Drop the One Ring! Drop it NOW!"
- Jack Bauer in Lord of the Rings

229 x-ray  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:29:37pm

re: #226 Noam Sayin'

Hey Noam you aren't a local talk radio host are you?

230 Sharmuta  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:29:54pm

re: #224 Slumbering Behemoth

Since he's an obama shill, I hope he gets used to disappointment.

231 realwest  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:30:15pm

re: #223 CapeCoddah
I got it at your link at #218: [Link: gretawire.foxnews.com...]

232 Sharmuta  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:31:00pm

re: #228 jaunte

Goodnight all.

"Drop the One Ring! Drop it NOW!"
- Jack Bauer in Lord of the Rings

LOL!

I was going to reply to you, but you're going to bed, so it can wait for another time. Good night, jaunte.

233 realwest  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:31:13pm

re: #228 jaunte

ARRRGH juante NO - please see my #227!

234 BGOH  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:32:03pm

re: #206 MandyManners

Not for a long time.

Mandy, I would like to read your blog, as well. Please pass along a link if you feel comfortable doing so. I have never created a blog, but the thought has crossed my mind, and I can definitely image the hesitance to publicize such a thing. I know I certainly would feel so. You are a smart woman, though. I wouldn't worry if I were you.

/I could be way off in misinterpreting your secrecy

235 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:32:27pm

re: #222 Sharmuta

Trapped in a Box

It's about the T and V, but I suppose the same argument could be made about computers.

/This is not enough for a human to grow

236 Noam Sayin'  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:32:59pm

re: #229 x-ray

I wish I was that talented.

G'night, everyone. Wet dreems.

237 CapeCoddah  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:33:13pm

re: #234 BGOH

Seconded. I have not been here long, but I have developed a healthy respect for yoour thought process Mandy. You are awesome!

238 The Other Les  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:33:45pm

re: #200 x-ray

Freedom isn't free and the current crop of lefties will only sacrifice others too attain power.

I think that may be why they hate the military so much. Soldiers put their own lives on the line for their ideals. Leftists and Fascists brainwash others to die for their ideals.

The Citizen Soldier of a free nation is living proof that the ideology and worldview of the Leftist is wrong. The Leftist wants to believe that a soldier is an essentially mindless thug who robotically obeys their political masters regardless of the consequences. In fact it is the mindless thug that the Leftists (and parasites in general) needs in order to inflict their will upon their productive subjects.

The Soldier on the other hand must be actively conscious in order to survive on the battlefield and carry out his mission. Every one of them, from the individual rifleman to the commanding general must constantly perform the Boyd Cycle, the Observe-Orient-Decide-Act loop, as quickly as possible in the course of the conflict.

The Soldier, being mentally active as a virtue, can see through the reams of nonsense emitted by the Leftist demagogue. And is thus feared and hated by the Left in general.

The Thug on the other hand may be useful to the Leftist ruler but is utterly useless on the battlefield.

(BTW, I happen to agree with Dr. John Ray that Leftists and Fascists are essentially two versions of the same thing.)

239 Noam Sayin'  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:33:45pm

Oops. Forgot an 'e.'

Heh™

240 realwest  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:33:52pm

re: #226 Noam Sayin'Wow, Noam, that Vulcan bike is considerably larger than your scooter - dont'cha think you ought to get good on your scooter before you move up to something like that?!

241 realwest  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:35:58pm

OK ALL Y'ALL - one last one before I crash tonight - do you know the true origin of the name "redneck"?!

242 CapeCoddah  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:37:21pm

re: #241 realwest
Plantation workers?

243 x-ray  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:37:28pm

re: #236 Noam Sayin'

Wet dreams Noam. Heres a link if you lurk just a little.

244 Sharmuta  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:38:57pm

re: #235 Slumbering Behemoth

It's about the T and V, but I suppose the same argument could be made about computers.

The argument for computer being like tv only goes so far though. I remember hearing about a study where parts of the brain were measured for use- one area of the brain was used for reading and radio, where another part was used for tv. Tv is more passive, where reading and radio were more stimulating, because the imagination has to be used to visualize what the brain is taking in. To that extent, computers are less like tv, and more like radio. But I suppose if you did nothing on your computer but watch videos from youtube, then yeah- the computer would be not much different than tv.

245 x-ray  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:39:15pm

re: #241 realwest

OK ALL Y'ALL - one last one before I crash tonight - do you know the true origin of the name "redneck"?!

It's what you get when you ride a tractor all day. Didn't google so I may be wrong on origin.

246 BGOH  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:39:32pm

re: #241 realwest

I don't know if it's entirely true, but what I have heard is that the red clay soil in the South tends to leave a "red" stain on the necks of farmers in that region. I try not to use this term pejoratively, and I'm sure I'm wrong but I thought it might be worth a shot.

What could I have won?

247 BlueCanuck  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:41:05pm

re: #241 realwest

I think it's the sunburn farmers got on the back of their necks while outside doing work.

/could be wrong.

248 Killian Bundy  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:41:23pm

re: #239 Noam Sayin'

Oops. Forgot an 'e.'

Heh™

re: #239 Noam Sayin'

Oops. Forgot an 'e.'

Heh™

/mind the river

249 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:44:34pm

re: #238 The Other Les

The Soldier, being mentally active as a virtue, can see through the reams of nonsense emitted by the Leftist demagogue. And is thus feared and hated by the Left in general.

Hammer meets nail squarely. This is also the reason I want our service men and women, this new "Greatest Generation", to start running for political offices when they come home.

My country desperately needs them to do so, IMAO.

250 x-ray  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:48:17pm

re: #238 The Other Les

Which is why, though Americas record is young it has not lost a war militarily ever. The numbers of soldiers have shrunk over time but their mass has grown.

And by mass I mean E=MC squared. There is no equal to the mass they project.

251 Intrepid  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:48:19pm

re: #186 CapeCoddah

Hey All
Intrepid, both of my maternal grandparents were named Such.
Grandad was Francis, and Gram is Frances.

Yikes! Mayhaps things were a bit confusing around their house!

252 realwest  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:48:22pm

re: #242 CapeCoddah
Nope, good guess though - apparently in the late 1870's or maybe late 1890's a coal miner who's name was Bill Blizzard was working in a union coal mine in northwest West Virginia and had heard about all the deaths, injuries, company stores and shit going on in south east Virgina, where the Owners of the coal mines refused to allow workers to unionize. So he organized a "militia" of about 2,000 union coal miners to go down to the southeast part of the state with the idea of compelling Coal Mine owner's to allow unionization.
Said Coal Mine Owner's hired around 3,000 professional gunmen to stop them at the top of a hill in the middle of a forest.
Blizzard had his men wear red handkerchiefs around their necks so they wouldn't accidentally shoot each other!
Got it from a documentary called "Hillbilly's The Real Story" on the History Channel tonight - about the Scots-Irish who pushed into Appalachia and settled it. Good show, too.

253 The Other Les  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:49:19pm

re: #249 Slumbering Behemoth

Hammer meets nail squarely. This is also the reason I want our service men and women, this new "Greatest Generation", to start running for political offices when they come home.

My country desperately needs them to do so, IMAO.

And also the fact that Citizen Soldier's basic mission is the defense of the existing society. Leftists of course feel threatened by this.

Don't have to ask why now do we?

254 realwest  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:49:52pm

re: #252 realwestPIMF southeast West Virginia!

255 realwest  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:51:22pm

Well it's been grand as usual y'all but I gotta get some sleep!
I sure hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get a chance to see you down the road!

Good night all!

256 x-ray  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:52:48pm

re: #255 realwest

Good night

257 WrathofG-d  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:54:50pm

Peoples still listening

258 x-ray  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:56:40pm

re: #250 x-ray

I really have to stop and look at what I write, it's way too often too clever by half.

What I meant too say is there is no better military than that of the USA.

Condensed further.

Our troops kick ass!

259 bsod  Mon, May 19, 2008 10:58:54pm

LGF-Haters Say What?

LGF-Haters say Ho-o
"Ho-o"

Lizard Army, rock tha house!

260 Intrepid  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:01:08pm

re: #218 CapeCoddah

OT, but I just went to Greta Van Susterns blog to participate in a poll she just mentioned on Fox, and clicked on the blog. Check out the first post, it is interesting.
[Link: gretawire.foxnews.com...]

Fran doesn't care for Hillary's policies, but she'll vote for her because she's a woman! Fran is in the same boat as blacks are who vote for Obama just because he is black!

Identity Politics at its best!/worst!

Yet there are those of us who will vote based on the stated policies of the candidates. My vote goes to Senator McCain, because he has the balls to confront evil where it's needed. Even though he could use a smack on the face with a wet fish about his illegal immigration policy.

261 Syrah  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:01:49pm

Lefty (narcissistic nihilist) thinks he deserves free stuff.

262 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:04:10pm

re: #244 Sharmuta

Wait, what were you saying? I missed it, I was going ga-ga over your avatar.
/

I understand what you're say, and I agree that the computer is far more engaging with regards to critical thought than the passive experience of television. This is especially true if you are spending time with the Lizards.

My point in comparing the T.V. to the computer in that post was that if you spend all your time in front of either, you will not grow as a human.

Aside from that: P.C. > T.V., no doubt about it.

263 Sharmuta  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:05:17pm

re: #261 Syrah

Lefty (narcissistic nihilist) thinks he deserves free stuff.

I like that...narcissistic nihilist. N2 is the new L3.

264 x-ray  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:07:16pm

re: #259 bsod

LGF-Haters Say What?

LGF-Haters say Ho-o
"Ho-o"

Lizard Army, rock tha house!

The post
The Post
The Post is on fire
We don't need no water let the motherf*^cker burn,
Burn motherf*^ker burn.
/off

265 jainphx  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:08:35pm

re: #109 TheMedianSib

Not much, but then again the LLL are not noted for there intelligence.

266 Syrah  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:13:16pm

re: #263 Sharmuta

I like that...narcissistic nihilist. N2 is the new L3.

Narcissistic Nihilism is the core essence of the Loony Left Logic.

267 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:14:02pm

re: #263 Sharmuta

I like that...narcissistic nihilist. N2 is the new L3.

Holy crap! Sharmuta has discovered the base molecule of the substance known as Stupidium: N2L3.

Nice work, your discovery shall be a milestone in scientific history.

Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein.

268 The Other Les  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:14:37pm

re: #265 jainphx

Not much, but then again the LLL are not noted for there intelligence.

I really can't think of them as properly dumb, it's more like they are antismart.

269 mean Gene  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:15:25pm

I think it's great that all the comments are pretty much proLGF.
It seems that people like the original poster get other people's curiosity up so that they come here to see for themselves.
Then, guess what?
More potential lizards.
Open the registration and see.

270 Sharmuta  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:15:44pm

re: #262 Slumbering Behemoth

Wait, what were you saying? I missed it, I was going ga-ga over your avatar.
/

Well- it is smurftastic.

I understand what you're say, and I agree that the computer is far more engaging with regards to critical thought than the passive experience of television. This is especially true if you are spending time with the Lizards.

I had to ding you for that.

271 Sharmuta  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:17:05pm

re: #267 Slumbering Behemoth

LMAO!

272 WrathofG-d  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:17:53pm

woot! woot! liZards

273 x-ray  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:19:39pm

re: #267 Slumbering Behemoth

So is Stupidium #104 since it's next or do we need to bump up the number since it's density is such a leap from the known elements?

274 Sharmuta  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:20:29pm

re: #267 Slumbering Behemoth

I'll only except this honor with Syrah as co-discoverer.

275 haakondahl  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:21:04pm

re: #241 realwest

OK ALL Y'ALL - one last one before I crash tonight - do you know the true origin of the name "redneck"?!

"Redneck" refgerred to the fact that conservative farmboys had decent haircuts, and therefore were prone to sunburn on the backs of their necks. As opposed to the "Longhairs", whose prissy lily-white complexions were threatened only by burns from joints.

276 haakondahl  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:21:40pm

-g

277 The Other Les  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:21:47pm

re: #273 x-ray

So is Stupidium #104 since it's next or do we need to bump up the number since it's density is such a leap from the known elements?

What's the half-life and what's the critical mass of this element?

278 haakondahl  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:22:23pm

re: #274 Sharmuta

I'll only except this honor with Syrah as co-discoverer.

"Accept". Come on.

279 Sharmuta  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:24:03pm

re: #278 haakondahl

Sorry. It's late. Nice job at digg, btw.

280 haakondahl  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:24:30pm

re: #273 x-ray

So is Stupidium #104 since it's next or do we need to bump up the number since it's density is such a leap from the known elements?

Well, we run into a problem here. If Stupidium is an element, then it can't be composed of other substances. If it is composed of other substances, then it is a compound molecule, and cannot be assigned an element number.

More research required.

281 NY Nana  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:24:38pm

OT: G'night, all. We got back from Brooklyn about an hour ago, after taking care of our 20 month old grandson, and it was one of the funniest days ever. He is very sweet and very funny, and adores an audience. One son came after work to help out in case the bandit wore us out...;) He didn't want to leave, either, when the kids got home.

Putting him to sleep was a breeze, much to our surprise, and daughter and son in law went to Radio City Music Hall to see a stage show. It was their Fourth Anniversary. They had a great time, but I think we had the best time of all.

Off to bed. Exhausted, but the very best kind of exhaustion. They grow up too darned fast! I also learned that food from someone else's plate tastes better than from a toddler's own plate. And he doesn't even say 'please'! Just that big grin, and those sparking eyes.

Sweet dreams!

282 haakondahl  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:25:32pm

re: #279 Sharmuta

Sorry. It's late. Nice job at digg, btw.

Thanks. Just doing my job as Hall Monitor.

Did you have to choose to show the comment which had been hidden in order to view my reply?

283 Sharmuta  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:25:47pm

I blame the N2L3!

284 Syrah  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:26:41pm

The TV becomes to much like God in peoples lives.

Just look at the way they arrange their living rooms. The focus of the room is on the one eyed god.

The living Room/Family room should be focused on living and the family, not the vicarious "living" through the antics of "other peoples" families.

We should not live at the mercy, demands and schedule of the one eyed god.

We should live our own lives in our own families.

285 The Other Les  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:26:43pm

re: #276 haakondahl

-g

Sounds like you had an encounter with an Elder God.

[Link: www.macguff.fr...]

[Link: www.macguff.fr...]

286 Sharmuta  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:26:51pm

re: #282 haakondahl

Yes- I wanted to see what was said, so I made the effort.

287 pat  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:28:06pm

NYNana. Cool. Goondnite. Wish my kids would get serious.

288 jainphx  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:29:10pm

re: #268 The Other Les

I guess the lack of common sense just makes them seem stupid. Just wish once they would think of the consequences of there actions, so many innocent people get hurt.

289 Syrah  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:29:54pm

re: #274 Sharmuta

I'll only except this honor with Syrah as co-discoverer.

Accepted.

It would be an honor to share in this discovery with you.

290 WrathofG-d  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:30:14pm

why don't we just do it in the road, and have peace and love.
GNA

291 redc1c4  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:33:25pm

well, i just got done playing a round of golf, and i'm in the clubhouse for a Scotch... and figured i'd share this "Change" video with y'all...

/drink!

292 The Other Les  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:34:15pm

re: #288 jainphx

I guess the lack of common sense just makes them seem stupid. Just wish once they would think of the consequences of there actions, so many innocent people get hurt.

If they were to think in terms of cause and effect they would ultimately have to face the fact that material wealth is caused by the thought and labor of distinct persons and not some magical process, and thus have to acknowledge the Right of Property. Parasites simply can't do that.

293 x-ray  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:34:54pm

re: #277 The Other Les

Stupedium is radioactive and I think its half life appears to be 20 years since it's runs in politics when not replenished is 40 years. Its mass is almost nill.
Unfortunately Stupedium is shiny and its opposite Conservium is dull.

Conservium is useful for it's strength and but it's mass is low.
Stupendium is almost completely useless but it's mass is high.

294 x-ray  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:38:37pm

I need to engineer world domination tomorrow so Good night all:)

295 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:40:12pm

re: #273 x-ray

So is Stupidium #104 since it's next or do we need to bump up the number since it's density is such a leap from the known elements?

Well, Stupidium is a molecule rather than a periodic element. It is comprised of two atoms of nihilism and three atoms of leftism. Thus N2L3.

Also, the numbering of periodic elements is not based on order of discovery, but on their atomic weight.

With all this in mind, I will finally get around to answering your original question:

Full studies have not yet been conclusive as to the exact atomic weight of nihilism and leftism, but it is the resounding consensus of the scientific community that both will eventually be placed on the periodic table somewhere between #0 and #-10, as both carry no weight whatsoever.
/

296 The Other Les  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:41:06pm

re: #293 x-ray

Stupedium is radioactive and I think its half life appears to be 20 years since it's runs in politics when not replenished is 40 years. Its mass is almost nill.
Unfortunately Stupedium is shiny and its opposite Conservium is dull.

Conservium is useful for it's strength and but it's mass is low.
Stupendium is almost completely useless but it's mass is high.

So Stupedium is basically a dead mass that causes a slowing or drag effect on when it contaminates otherwise functional machinery. Right?

297 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:43:44pm

re: #274 Sharmuta

I'll only except this honor with Syrah as co-discoverer.

Duly noted, and there is so much egg on my face. How could I forget your co-researcher on this subject. You are in good company.

298 haakondahl  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:44:02pm

From the haakondahl Executive Strategies series:

Saying No
-or-
Training the Staff not to Bring Me This Crap At The Last Minute.

"If it was important today, then it will still be important tomorrow. If it can't wait until tomorrow, then it's already too late, because it's not getting done today. Next item?"

Also useful for re-training idiot bosses, which I have been blessedly free from in recent years.

299 redc1c4  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:46:18pm

re: #295 Slumbering Behemoth

Well, Stupidium is a molecule rather than a periodic element. It is comprised of two atoms of nihilism and three atoms of leftism. Thus N2L3.

Also, the numbering of periodic elements is not based on order of discovery, but on their atomic weight.

With all this in mind, I will finally get around to answering your original question:

Full studies have not yet been conclusive as to the exact atomic weight of nihilism and leftism, but it is the resounding consensus of the scientific community that both will eventually be placed on the periodic table somewhere between #0 and #-10, as both carry no weight whatsoever.
/

as in "you numbah 10 GI!"? %-)

300 x-ray  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:46:55pm

re: #295 Slumbering Behemoth

Crap how did I miss the molecule vs element part. Jumped the gun (stepped on my own dick). I did have the density part right though I think.

301 x-ray  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:48:30pm

re: #296 The Other Les

Yes,

302 redc1c4  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:48:50pm

if you haven't seen Day by Day for today... take the 15 seconds. it's worth it, IMHO.

/Monty Python humor warning

303 Intrepid  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:50:20pm

re: #295 Slumbering Behemoth

Well, Stupidium is a molecule rather than a periodic element. It is comprised of two atoms of nihilism and three atoms of leftism. Thus N2L3.

Also, the numbering of periodic elements is not based on order of discovery, but on their atomic weight.

With all this in mind, I will finally get around to answering your original question:

Full studies have not yet been conclusive as to the exact atomic weight of nihilism and leftism, but it is the resounding consensus of the scientific community that both will eventually be placed on the periodic table somewhere between #0 and #-10, as both carry no weight whatsoever.
/

Sorry, but doesn't Stupidium comprise two atoms of nihilism and three atoms of leftism?

Instead of "is comprised of"?

The parts comprise the whole, but the whole is composed of the parts, right?

304 haakondahl  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:50:30pm

re: #295 Slumbering Behemoth

Well, Stupidium is a molecule rather than a periodic element. It is comprised of two atoms of nihilism and three atoms of leftism. Thus N2L3.

Also, the numbering of periodic elements is not based on order of discovery, but on their atomic weight.

With all this in mind, I will finally get around to answering your original question:

Full studies have not yet been conclusive as to the exact atomic weight of nihilism and leftism, but it is the resounding consensus of the scientific community that both will eventually be placed on the periodic table somewhere between #0 and #-10, as both carry no weight whatsoever.
/

I beg to differ. Recent experiments carried out ny researchers at the haakondahl Institute indicate that stupidity is indeed an element, and is present in both Nihilism and Leftism. While theoretically there are configurations of Leftism which contain no stupidity, this has never been observed in nature, and can be found only in dubious media reports and the back pages of advanced University-level texts. Many graduate papers are predicated upon the existence of Leftism without Stupidity, but despite repeated experiments, this remains, ahem! "just a theory".
Nihilism, on the other hand, absolutely implies stupidity.

305 The Other Les  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:52:04pm

re: #304 haakondahl

Can Stupidium be formed into long chain molecules?

306 redc1c4  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:53:15pm

re: #303 Intrepid

Sorry, but doesn't Stupidium comprise two atoms of nihilism and three atoms of leftism?

Instead of "is comprised of"?

The parts comprise the whole, but the whole is composed of the parts, right?

"Some people have a great command of the English language. A certain
percentage of them, however, tend to lead it into suicidal charges."

- Unknown Usenet Wit

/white smoke

307 x-ray  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:53:30pm

re: #294 x-ray
Man I would have probably figured out that whole world domination thing if I could actually focus on a task as simple as going to bed.
Exit attempt #2

308 redc1c4  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:54:44pm

re: #305 The Other Les

Can Stupidium be formed into long chain molecules?

it was evidently present on the "Long March", but extrapolations from that data are difficult.

309 Intrepid  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:55:16pm

re: #306 redc1c4

"Some people have a great command of the English language. A certain
percentage of them, however, tend to lead it into suicidal charges."

- Unknown Usenet Wit

/white smoke

So does that mean I'm right? :-) or :-(

310 LeePro  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:56:07pm

re: #218 CapeCoddah

OT, but I just went to Greta Van Susterns blog to participate in a poll she just mentioned on Fox, and clicked on the blog. Check out the first post, it is interesting.
[Link: gretawire.foxnews.com...]

Read the comment from "Goldstarwife" at your link.

Excellent analysis!

311 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:57:55pm

re: #303 Intrepid

Sorry, but doesn't Stupidium comprise two atoms of nihilism and three atoms of leftism?

Instead of "is comprised of"?

The parts comprise the whole, but the whole is composed of the parts, right?

Sure, if you wanna be a jerk about it.

/I can only pull so much pseudo-science outta my butt, and I can't do so while worrying about what an english major might think.
//to be sure I'm not offended, and will keep your correction in mind the next time I try to make stuff up.

:)

312 redc1c4  Mon, May 19, 2008 11:59:50pm

re: #309 Intrepid

So does that mean I'm right? :-) or :-(

well, i'm still trying to decide how you can have anything comprise a whole, since they are usually an empty space in a solid object, such as a doughnut...

/scotch?

313 Intrepid  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:01:27am

re: #308 redc1c4

it was evidently present on the "Long March", but extrapolations from that data are difficult.

The Long March is an excellent example of stupidium. However, because so many subjects in the experiment expired - both during the march and in the several years afterward - it is difficult to determine the value of it.

With one exception - the progress of life on Formossa, aka Taiwan. There is a good example of the fruits of the Great March.

314 Intrepid  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:04:23am

re: #311 Slumbering Behemoth

Sure, if you wanna be a jerk about it.

/I can only pull so much pseudo-science outta my butt, and I can't do so while worrying about what an english major might think.
//to be sure I'm not offended, and will keep your correction in mind the next time I try to make stuff up.

:)

Heh - no English major here. It's just one of those things I REALLY REMEMBERED from English Class.

And you do very well at pulling pseudo-science from your butt - I sure as heck can't, since my high school science teacher was having an affair with one of my classmates!

/several, several years ago.

315 Intrepid  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:05:32am

re: #312 redc1c4

well, i'm still trying to decide how you can have anything comprise a whole, since they are usually an empty space in a solid object, such as a doughnut...

/scotch?

Dewars, please. On the rocks!

316 The Other Les  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:05:57am

re: #308 redc1c4

it was evidently present on the "Long March", but extrapolations from that data are difficult.

Yes. There was quite a lot of it then.

[Link: www.iisg.nl...]

317 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:09:27am

re: #313 Intrepid

The Long March is an excellent example of stupidium. However, because so many subjects in the experiment expired - both during the march and in the several years afterward - it is difficult to determine the value of it.

With one exception - the progress of life on Formosa, aka Taiwan. There is a good example of the fruits of the Great March.

i could opine that Formosa is the antithesis of the "Great March" experiment, or the "control", if you will. however, the case could be made that it actually is the experiment, whereas the "Great March" and all that came after, up through today, are the ultimate "control" which proves the validity of the Formosa experiment and it's outcome.

it could also be that i'm a verbose punster who will go to any lengths for a bad one or a scotch & water.

/my glass is empty: brb

318 Slumbering Behemoth  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:14:34am

re: #304 haakondahl


I beg to differ. Recent experiments carried out ny researchers at the haakondahl Institute indicate that stupidity is indeed an element, and is present in both Nihilism and Leftism. While theoretically there are configurations of Leftism which contain no stupidity, this has never been observed in nature, and can be found only in dubious media reports and the back pages of advanced University-level texts. Many graduate papers are predicated upon the existence of Leftism without Stupidity, but despite repeated experiments, this remains, ahem! "just a theory".
Nihilism, on the other hand, absolutely implies stupidity.

I am afraid you are arguing your point without understanding the difference between stupidity (a concept) and Stupidium (a compound molecule) Stupidium is composed of* two atoms nihilism and two atoms leftism. Thus the scientific abbreviation N2L3.

However, I must admit that I am no expert in this field. You might be better served by presenting your arguments to Dres. Sharmuta and Syrah. (Peer Review FTW!)

*see Intrepid, I can take a hint

319 Slumbering Behemoth  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:17:06am

re: #318 Slumbering Behemoth

Aw PIMF! That should be THREE atoms of leftism!

Dangit, here I am trying to act all smart, and I go and screw up a simple thing!
/

320 Intrepid  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:18:51am

re: #317 redc1c4

i could opine that Formosa is the antithesis of the "Great March" experiment, or the "control", if you will. however, the case could be made that it actually is the experiment, whereas the "Great March" and all that came after, up through today, are the ultimate "control" which proves the validity of the Formosa experiment and it's outcome.

it could also be that i'm a verbose punster who will go to any lengths for a bad one or a scotch & water.

/my glass is empty: brb

Hee. Is the basis of the experiment "democracy"? If it is, then the Long March failed, and in a monumental way. However, Taiwan succeeded, perhaps because Chaing Kai Shek and his Guomindang brothers and sisters made it so.

God help them if Barack Obama becomes President - he'll probably offer up Taiwan to the mainland on a platter! Just to keep the peace, mind you.

321 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:20:01am

re: #315 Intrepid

Dewars, please. On the rocks!

if you insist, but there are so many good single malts, why go there?

/Lagavulin, Talisker, McClallan, etc...

322 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:22:24am

re: #320 Intrepid

Hee. Is the basis of the experiment "democracy"? If it is, then the Long March failed, and in a monumental way. However, Taiwan succeeded, perhaps because Chaing Kai Shek and his Guomindang brothers and sisters made it so.

God help them if Barack Obama becomes President - he'll probably offer up Taiwan to the mainland on a platter! Just to keep the peace, mind you.

not so much democracy, as free will, personal initiative, and the ability to dream.

323 Intrepid  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:23:40am

re: #321 redc1c4

if you insist, but there are so many good single malts, why go there?

/Lagavulin, Talisker, McClallan, etc...

Because Kay Scarpetta (from Patricia Cornwell's books) drinks Dewars, and since I don't really drink Scotch, that always sounded cool.

/would rather have a good brew, or a glass of wine. Not a hard stuff quaffer.

324 Slumbering Behemoth  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:27:51am

re: #314 Intrepid

Hey Intrepid, don't get the impression that I'm ticked or anything. I have always encouraged Lizards to point out any mistakes I make (and I make many) while butchering the english language, especially if a good joke can be made from it. A good laugh is always welcomed, even if it is at my expense.

Lizard LeePro snagged me on a good one earlier today. Well, it made me laugh anyway.

325 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:29:43am

re: #323 Intrepid

Because Kay Scarpetta (from Patricia Cornwell's books) drinks Dewars, and since I don't really drink Scotch, that always sounded cool.

/would rather have a good brew, or a glass of wine. Not a hard stuff quaffer.

i'll have to look Kay up: she doesn't ring a bell. i'm a Raymond Chandler sort myself.

if you'd rather have a glass of the grape, may i suggest Zin Alley?

326 LeePro  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:30:22am

re: #303 Intrepid

Sorry, but doesn't Stupidium comprise two atoms of nihilism and three atoms of leftism?

Instead of "is comprised of"?

The parts comprise the whole, but the whole is composed of the parts, right?

Excellent catch, Intrepid! I'm very proud of you.
;D

327 Intrepid  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:34:07am

re: #324 Slumbering Behemoth

Hey Intrepid, don't get the impression that I'm ticked or anything. I have always encouraged Lizards to point out any mistakes I make (and I make many) while butchering the english language, especially if a good joke can be made from it. A good laugh is always welcomed, even if it is at my expense.

Lizard LeePro snagged me on a good one earlier today. Well, it made me laugh anyway.

No! I'm sorry that you took my post to mean I was scolding you! NEVER!

I just thought that compose/comprise was the way I had been taught, and was hoping that the way I was taught was right!

No scolding here. None. Nada.

Complete respect for the Slumbering Behemoth!

328 LeePro  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:34:27am

re: #311 Slumbering Behemoth

Sure, if you wanna be a jerk about it.

/I can only pull so much pseudo-science outta my butt, and I can't do so while worrying about what an english major might think.
//to be sure I'm not offended, and will keep your correction in mind the next time I try to make stuff up.

:)

Watch it, Big Guy! Intrepid is a friend of mine. That would be jerkette.

;)

329 LeePro  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:36:43am

re: #312 redc1c4

well, i'm still trying to decide how you can have anything comprise a whole, since they are usually an empty space in a solid object, such as a doughnut...

/scotch?

Arrrggghhh!
When are you young 'uns gonna get the spelling shit?

Whole = entire
Hole = middle of donut

330 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:36:54am

re: #328 LeePro

Watch it, Big Guy! Intrepid is a friend of mine. That would be jerkette.

;)

is this now a name calling thread? %-)

/woot!

331 LeePro  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:38:59am

re: #314 Intrepid

Heh - no English major here. It's just one of those things I REALLY REMEMBERED from English Class.

And you do very well at pulling pseudo-science from your butt - I sure as heck can't, since my high school science teacher was having an affair with one of my classmates!

/several, several years ago.

I admired the "pseudo-science from the butt" thing, too. Googled, but could find no reference to video.

332 Intrepid  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:39:02am

re: #325 redc1c4

i'll have to look Kay up: she doesn't ring a bell. i'm a Raymond Chandler sort myself.

if you'd rather have a glass of the grape, may i suggest Zin Alley?

"...hint of Chocolate". I'll go for that! If a wine can give me choco, then bring it on! What more could I ask for?

333 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:39:11am

re: #329 LeePro

Arrrggghhh!
When are you young 'uns gonna get the spelling shit?

Whole = entire
Hole = middle of donut

when are you going to get the hole "pun" slant of the post?

(i'd say i was "jes "Yank"ing your chain, but you're a Southern Belle." %-)

/white smoke

334 Intrepid  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:42:02am

re: #326 LeePro

Excellent catch, Intrepid! I'm very proud of you.
;D

Ophelia would be so proud, right before she took a nose dive off the bar stool!

/Fords are high quality, don't cha know...

335 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:42:50am

re: #332 Intrepid

"...hint of Chocolate". I'll go for that! If a wine can give me choco, then bring it on! What more could I ask for?

their Port goes down very easy with little bits of chocolate. you take a small chuck of something dark & yummy, place it on your tongue to start melting, then take a sip of the port. swirl it around and repeat as necessary. you can reverse the order for a slightly different but equally enjoyable result.

Household 6 doesn't even *like* chocolate on a day to day basis, but will cheerfully consume (for her) mass quantities if there's port involved.

336 Bacchus's daddy  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:42:52am

Hi lizards-
I'm only making a post because I just took the time to figure out how to make an avatar from my doggie's picture. Digg this!

337 LeePro  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:44:20am

re: #323 Intrepid

Because Kay Scarpetta (from Patricia Cornwell's books) drinks Dewars, and since I don't really drink Scotch, that always sounded cool.

/would rather have a good brew, or a glass of wine. Not a hard stuff quaffer.

Ah. Used to be a huge fan of hers, but last few books she's (Cornwell) way too full of herself, IMNSHO.

338 Intrepid  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:44:55am

re: #329 LeePro

Arrrggghhh!
When are you young 'uns gonna get the spelling shit?

Whole = entire
Hole = middle of donut

Ooooh, I want donuts. Krispi Kreme! Good, fresh KK donuts!

/Fresh KK donuts with good coffee - BETTER THAN SEX!

339 LeePro  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:45:53am

re: #330 redc1c4

is this now a name calling thread? %-)

/woot!

Welll...

You're here...

340 Slumbering Behemoth  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:46:41am

re: #327 Intrepid

No! I'm sorry that you took my post to mean I was scolding you! NEVER!

I did not take your post to mean you were scolding me at all. I found it funny.

I just wanted to clarify that my sarcastic response was meant as friendly banter, and not intended to be snarky or imply anger.

341 Bacchus's daddy  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:47:02am

BTW- the pic is Daisy, my adopted Gordon Setter/ Aussie mix (2 yrs old). Bacchus, my eponymous labrador died last Nov. (before I became a lizard, so I guess I should be Daisy's daddy). Bacchus's pics will rotate into my avatar now that I've figured it out. And I will now shut up after taking up space OT. Good night lizards!

342 LeePro  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:48:31am

re: #333 redc1c4

when are you going to get the hole "pun" slant of the post?

(i'd say i was "jes "Yank"ing your chain, but you're a Southern Belle." %-)

/white smoke

Yer damn right I am!

And you are an all too typical redneck.

/credit where credit is due

343 LeePro  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:49:20am

re: #334 Intrepid

Ophelia would be so proud, right before she took a nose dive off the bar stool!

/Fords are high quality, don't cha know...

Heh.

344 BlueCanuck  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:50:40am

re: #338 Intrepid

Ooooh, I want donuts. Krispi Kreme! Good, fresh KK donuts!

/Fresh KK donuts with good coffee - BETTER THAN SEX!

Gahhh, you 'mericans and your Krispy Kremes. They aren't a bad doughnut, if you like something that's sickeningly sweet. I prefer a good Tim Horton's doughnut. More flavour less sugar.

/just my humble opinion.

345 Intrepid  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:50:50am

re: #335 redc1c4

their Port goes down very easy with little bits of chocolate. you take a small chuck of something dark & yummy, place it on your tongue to start melting, then take a sip of the port. swirl it around and repeat as necessary. you can reverse the order for a slightly different but equally enjoyable result.

Household 6 doesn't even *like* chocolate on a day to day basis, but will cheerfully consume (for her) mass quantities if there's port involved.

Where are these folks? I wish to go there and sample their wares. And perhaps live with them for a few weeks. Do they have wireless internet?

Maybe they can teach me how to truly "taste" wine?

'Cause I can't get the whole "oak" and "raspberries" thing. My palette needs training!

346 LeePro  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:50:52am

re: #336 Bacchus's daddy

Hi lizards-
I'm only making a post because I just took the time to figure out how to make an avatar from my doggie's picture. Digg this!

Cool! Is that Bacchus? Is he a Newfoundland?

347 BlueCanuck  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:52:41am

re: #345 Intrepid

My advice is go to a winery and take a tour. Usually afterwards they will do a tasting and give you pointers on what to do. Also a great way of discovering new wines.

348 Intrepid  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:52:47am

re: #336 Bacchus's daddy

Hi lizards-
I'm only making a post because I just took the time to figure out how to make an avatar from my doggie's picture. Digg this!

Good looking doggie there, Bacchus! He a Rottie?

349 Bacchus's daddy  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:53:41am

re: #346 LeePro
That's Daisy (gordon/ Aussie mix). Bacchus (black lab) picture will replace once I shrink it down to avatar size. Newfoundland's are great dogs though too!

350 Intrepid  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:55:41am

re: #340 Slumbering Behemoth

I did not take your post to mean you were scolding me at all. I found it funny.

I just wanted to clarify that my sarcastic response was meant as friendly banter, and not intended to be snarky or imply anger.

Hee - I love friendly, sarcastic banter. And out-of-the-butt science.

Thumbs up, SB! (why don't we have smilies?)

351 Bacchus's daddy  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:56:37am

re: #348 Intrepid
Daisy's Gordon Setter half gives her the Rotti black-and-tan coloring. She is much sweeter though (and I do have two rottweiler neighbors who are sweet in their own right- lest I be misconstrued as slighting rotti's).

352 Slumbering Behemoth  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:56:38am

re: #331 LeePro

I admired the "pseudo-science from the butt" thing, too. Googled, but could find no reference to video.

You have to remove/get around the "Child Safety Filter" thing. You will then find many videos, none of which have anything to do with science, and will most likely get you stared at or fired from your job.

/fair warning
//and no, the above link is not pron. it is Van Halen.

353 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:58:25am

Good morning, haters! lizards!

354 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:00:51am

Who says we have no smiles?

Here there are five for you:
:) :) :) :) :)

/Help yourselves...

lol

There are two variants also:
:-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
or
:D :D :D :D :D

/Emoticonologist.

355 Intrepid  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:00:58am

re: #344 BlueCanuck

Gahhh, you 'mericans and your Krispy Kremes. They aren't a bad doughnut, if you like something that's sickeningly sweet. I prefer a good Tim Horton's doughnut. More flavour less sugar.

/just my humble opinion.

Blue, we don't have Tim Horton's down here!

Anyway, I can eat donuts for a snack with coffee, but cannot abide donuts for breakfast. Nothing sweet should ever be in a good breakfast!

/not that I really eat breakfast, mind you. But I sure wouldn't eat sweet donuts for breakfast! Yuck! (toast and eggs - yes; toast and bacon - yes)

356 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:01:32am

re: #338 Intrepid

Ooooh, I want donuts. Krispi Kreme! Good, fresh KK donuts!

/Fresh KK donuts with good coffee - BETTER THAN SEX!

then you need to w*rk on your sex...

(or maybe we have better doughnuts here in LA? %-)

/white smoke

357 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:03:22am

re: #342 LeePro

Yer damn right I am!

And you are an all too atypical redneck.

/credit where credit is due

fixed that for ya... %-)

358 LeePro  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:04:21am

re: #352 Slumbering Behemoth

You have to remove/get around the "Child Safety Filter" thing. You will then find many videos, none of which have anything to do with science, and will most likely get you stared at or fired from your job.

/fair warning
//and no, the above link is not pron. it is Van Halen.

I was JOKING!
Looking for video of Slumbering Behemoth pulling pseudo-science from your butt...

%-/

359 Intrepid  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:05:27am

re: #353 MigueldowninMexico

Good morning, haters! lizards!

Buenos dias, Miguel! Nosotros are not haters! Dios mio!

/I suck at Spanish.

360 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:05:32am

re: #344 BlueCanuck

Gahhh, you 'mericans and your Krispy Kremes. They aren't a bad doughnut, if you like something that's sickeningly sweet. I prefer a good Tim Horton's doughnut. More flavour less sugar.

/just my humble opinion.

and you're right...

(for once. %-)

nasty things: all sugar and sawdust, from what i can tell.

/never understood the attraction

361 LeePro  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:06:43am

re: #354 MigueldowninMexico

:)   :-)   :D   to you, too, {Miguel}!

362 BlueCanuck  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:07:24am

re: #360 redc1c4

Thank you for your kind words.

/put a mark on the wall some one, quick.
//don't know why, but it's significant somewhere.
///REALLY tired right now, can't think well.

363 LeePro  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:07:26am

re: #344 BlueCanuck

{ { {Blue} } }

364 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:07:45am

re: #359 Intrepid

Buenos dias, Miguel! Nosotros are not haters! Dios mio!

/I suck at Spanish.

Hahahaha Intrepid.
I got it all ;)

365 BlueCanuck  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:08:24am

re: #363 LeePro

{ {LeePro} }, good morning to you.
/been busy lurking

366 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:08:26am

re: #361 LeePro

:) %u2002 :-) %u2002 :D %u2002 to you, too, {Miguel}!

Right back at you, dear Lee!
{LeePro}

:) :-) :D

367 Intrepid  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:10:11am

re: #356 redc1c4

then you need to w*rk on your sex...

(or maybe we have better doughnuts here in LA? %-)

/white smoke

Hee - ya'll just work on your streets first. Your road work is atrocious! We get pot holes filled quickly here, but I've gone to LA and driven from the airport area to the Thai consulate on Larchmont; and then the next year made the same trip, and the same pot holes are there!

Where is your tax dollars going?

368 Slumbering Behemoth  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:10:44am

re: #358 LeePro

I was JOKING!

I knew you were. I thought you were lobbing me a soft pitch, that's why I responded the way I did.

Looking for video of Slumbering Behemoth pulling pseudo-science from your butt...

That is part of an incredibly niche fetish market, and will likely be difficult to obtain. Whatever videos you may find in such a search, I want you to know right now, that IS NOT ME!

/I too am joking

369 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:11:19am

re: #365 BlueCanuck
/been busy lurking

This made me laugh! ROFL!

370 BlueCanuck  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:14:03am

re: #369 MigueldowninMexico

Hey, lurking is hard work. Keeping up on comments, checking spinoffs, reading articles. I am swamped I tell you, swamped. :)

371 Slumbering Behemoth  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:14:30am

re: #350 Intrepid

Hee - I love friendly, sarcastic banter. And out-of-the-butt science.

Thumbs up, SB! (why don't we have smilies?)

Gah! Make up your mind! Out or Up, which is it?!

/also joking

372 Intrepid  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:15:47am

Ooops - Red, are you talking LA, being Los Angeles, or LA, being Louisanna?

Big difference there.

373 Slumbering Behemoth  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:16:18am

PIMF! My #371 should read like this:

re: #350 Intrepid

Hee - I love friendly, sarcastic banter. And out-of-the-butt science.

Thumbs up, SB! (why don't we have smilies?)

Gah! Make up your mind! Out or Up, which is it?!

/also joking

374 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:18:20am

re: #354 MigueldowninMexico

Who says we have no smiles?

Here there are five for you:
:) :) :) :) :)

/Help yourselves...

lol

There are two variants also:
:-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
or
:D :D :D :D :D

/Emoticonologist.

would this be a simile?
%-) %-) %-) %-) %-)

375 karridine  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:18:35am

Well, I did a thorough skim on the way down, and NOBODY posted this, so I'll ask Mr Smaht Guy, the Smaht Guy with TWO left hands, and TWICE the Brain of ANY Green-Footballer, who said "irrational paranoia" if he can show us an example of RATIONAL paranoia?

Please?

/oh, that's right... paranoia IS an irrational fear, isn't it? So "irrational paranoia" is either ignorantly redundant OR ignorantly wrong.

Which is it, Lefty?

376 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:20:12am

re: #370 BlueCanuck

Hey, lurking is hard work. Keeping up on comments, checking spinoffs, reading articles. I am swamped I tell you, swamped. :)

Hahahaha!

377 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:20:45am

re: #374 redc1c4

would this be a simile?
%-) %-) %-) %-) %-)

That's called a "red smile".
usually behind white smoke ;)

378 Intrepid  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:20:48am

re: #373 Slumbering Behemoth

PIMF! My #371 should read like this:

re: #350 Intrepid

Gah! Make up your mind! Out or Up, which is it?!

/also joking

Hee - depends on what you're doing with it, SB. But I reckon it doesn't really matter, unless you're "out". Then that makes a big difference where and in which company you'll be "up".

379 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:21:16am

re: #367 Intrepid

Hee - ya'll just work on your streets first. Your road work is atrocious! We get pot holes filled quickly here, but I've gone to LA and driven from the airport area to the Thai consulate on Larchmont; and then the next year made the same trip, and the same pot holes are there!

Where is your tax dollars going?

Switzerland? Brazil? Mexico? not even the mayor's hairdresser knows for sure.

380 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:21:49am

re: #362 BlueCanuck

Thank you for your kind words.

/put a mark on the wall some one, quick.
//don't know why, but it's significant somewhere.
///REALLY tired right now, can't think well.

nothing new there... %-)

381 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:22:54am

I have a rational case of paranoia, Dr. K.

This is driving my shrink insane.

382 infidel Alan  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:23:05am

re: #367 Intrepid

Hee - ya'll just work on your streets first. Your road work is atrocious! We get pot holes filled quickly here, but I've gone to LA and driven from the airport area to the Thai consulate on Larchmont; and then the next year made the same trip, and the same pot holes are there!

Where is your tax dollars going?

Our tax dollars are going for welfare, medical care and schooling for illegals and their children of course.

383 karridine  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:23:06am

re: #380 redc1c4

Really tired at 1525 Tuesday afternoon? Wassmatta U.

384 LeePro  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:23:09am

re: #374 redc1c4

would this be a simile?
%-) %-) %-) %-) %-)

like-wise

385 Intrepid  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:23:23am

re: #375 karridine

Well, I did a thorough skim on the way down, and NOBODY posted this, so I'll ask Mr Smaht Guy, the Smaht Guy with TWO left hands, and TWICE the Brain of ANY Green-Footballer, who said "irrational paranoia" if he can show us an example of RATIONAL paranoia?

Please?

/oh, that's right... paranoia IS an irrational fear, isn't it? So "irrational paranoia" is either ignorantly redundant OR ignorantly wrong.

Which is it, Lefty?

Khao mai mi samong leuy.

Sawasdii khaa, Phii!

How are you today? Is it hot hot in Bangkok or just hot?

386 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:23:45am

re: #372 Intrepid

Ooops - Red, are you talking LA, being Los Angeles, or LA, being Louisanna?

Big difference there.

not really... we don't usually have the humidity, but we have all the stupidity. %-)

/Lost Angels native

387 karridine  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:24:14am

re: #381 MigueldowninMexico

Ah, but YOU do not qualify as Left-Leaning Liberal, and so cannot even BEGIN to respond to the question.

/NEXT!

388 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:25:01am

re: #375 karridine

Well, I did a thorough skim on the way down, and NOBODY posted this, so I'll ask Mr Smaht Guy, the Smaht Guy with TWO left hands, and TWICE the Brain of ANY Green-Footballer, who said "irrational paranoia" if he can show us an example of RATIONAL paranoia?

Please?

/oh, that's right... paranoia IS an irrational fear, isn't it? So "irrational paranoia" is either ignorantly redundant OR ignorantly wrong.

Which is it, Lefty?

perfect paranoia is perfect awareness.

/the paranoids are out to get me!

389 LeePro  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:25:28am

re: #378 Intrepid

Hee - depends on what you're doing with it, SB. But I reckon it doesn't really matter, unless you're "out". Then that makes a big difference where and in which company you'll be "up".

ROFLMAO

390 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:26:30am

re: #377 MigueldowninMexico

That's called a "red smile".
usually behind white smoke ;)

it keeps my teeth gleaming, btw... %-)

391 karridine  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:26:45am

re: #385 Intrepid

"...mai mee semong, leuy..." (Pom hen-duay!)

Here? Mai lawn, towrai... not very hot, breezy with scattered high clouds...
fragrant blossoms scent carried on the breeze, and the kind of day I recall WHY I fell in love with Thailand, 23 years ago, Intrepid...

/Hola, Miguel!

392 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:30:10am

re: #383 karridine

Really tired at 1525 Tuesday afternoon? Wassmatta U.

that was the moody Blues Canuck... only about 0130 local here: still plenty of drinking left in the night. %-)

/now if only Firefox would quit crashing/locking up...

393 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:30:23am

re: #387 karridine

Ah, but YOU do not qualify as Left-Leaning Liberal, and so cannot even BEGIN to respond to the question.

/NEXT!

Oops.

/Coming back next Monday ;)

394 Intrepid  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:32:02am

re: #386 redc1c4

not really... we don't usually have the humidity, but we have all the stupidity. %-)

/Lost Angels native

But ya'll have a state income tax, right? Does that money go to support all the illegals around ya?

TN is one of the hold outs in voting in a state income tax. Of course, our sales tax is 9.75, so I reckon it evens out.

395 Slumbering Behemoth  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:32:12am

Well, since we've been discussing Stupidium...

With that, I am out.

May my dreams consist of the mantra:
PIMF
PIMF
PIMF

G'nite Lizards!

396 BlueCanuck  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:32:30am

re: #392 redc1c4

Almost 4:30 am here. Was a little foolish today and only got 3 hours of sleep. Was it worth it? IMHO hell yah. I will sleep when I am dead. ;)

/wish I could find that Warren Zevon tune with that line in it on youtube.

397 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:32:43am

re: #393 MigueldowninMexico

Oops.

/Coming back next Monday ;)

you missed your opening: as a person of color, you should have claimed he was being racist and taken over the discussion for your personal benefit as a victim.


/

398 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:33:23am

Ok, red wrote: the code words "blues" and "night"
That's the queue I was wating for...

399 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:34:08am

re: #391 karridine

Hello My dear Karridine :)

400 karridine  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:34:23am

re: #394 Intrepid

No, it spreads the taxation across BUYERS, not INCOME EARNERS...

/but when the state is squandering the tax anyway, does it matter WHO they're double-dealing?

401 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:35:28am

re: #394 Intrepid

But ya'll have a state income tax, right? Does that money go to support all the illegals around ya?

TN is one of the hold outs in voting in a state income tax. Of course, our sales tax is 9.75, so I reckon it evens out.

we have both: sales is 8.5 or higher, IIRC: some areas have added additional levies that are *supposed* to fund certain projects, but that's all BS once the legislature is in session. there's no problem so simple that we can't make it worse by throwing more money at it to keep doing the same things that failed previously.

402 Intrepid  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:35:29am

re: #391 karridine

"...mai mee semong, leuy..." (Pom hen-duay!)

Here? Mai lawn, towrai... not very hot, breezy with scattered high clouds...
fragrant blossoms scent carried on the breeze, and the kind of day I recall WHY I fell in love with Thailand, 23 years ago, Intrepid...

/Hola, Miguel!

OOey, khit thung. So the hot HOT season has yet to hit...

What is the word there about the situation in Burma? Any inroads to be able to help?

403 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:36:51am

re: #398 MigueldowninMexico

Ok, red wrote: the code words "blues" and "night"
That's the queue I was wating for...

"cue"

/LeePro

404 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:38:06am

re: #395 Slumbering Behemoth

Well, since we've been discussing Stupidium...

With that, I am out.

May my dreams consist of the mantra:
PIMF
PIMF
PIMF

G'nite Lizards!

PIFW
PIFW
PIFW

hth

/you've got guard duty in two hours. %-)

405 Intrepid  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:38:24am

re: #395 Slumbering Behemoth

'Nite, SL! Weet dreams!

406 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:38:44am

re: #395 Slumbering Behemoth

Good night Behemoth! ;)

407 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:39:02am

Slumbering's on his way to slumber lol

408 karridine  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:39:35am

re: #398 MigueldowninMexico

Cab Calloway! AWRIGHT! Blew Sin, the Knight...

409 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:40:03am

Taking about slumbering...

410 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:40:49am

re: #408 karridine

Cab Calloway! AWRIGHT! Blew Sin, the Knight...

I love it!

411 LeePro  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:41:21am

re: #403 redc1c4

"cue"

/LeePro

OMG! ! !

How'd you get inside my head?

412 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:42:35am

re: #403 redc1c4

"cue"

/LeePro

Thanks, I was very hesitant there.

413 Intrepid  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:43:15am

So who should pay?

The democrats say the earners should pay.
The republicans say the buyers should pay.

Who should pay?

414 karridine  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:43:54am

re: #402 Intrepid

Intrepid, about the best that can be done is being done by Thailand, the only nation permitted to move any real amount of goods/helpers into Burma... and Thailand ain't being permitted to do very much a tall!

A 3 minute video, low-quality but smuggled past the censors, was shown on Thai TV about 3 days ago... fully HALF the video was just corpse after corpse after corpses... the vid-shooter couldn't ignore the ubiquity of the black, unburied bodies literally EVERYWHERE...

So that's what we're seeing, hearing re Burma, here...

415 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:45:04am

re: #414 karridine

How sad, Karridine.

Effing marxism.
Grrr.

416 karridine  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:45:52am

re: #413 Intrepid

So who should pay?

The democrats say the earners should pay.
The republicans say the buyers should pay.

Who should pay?

Me? I'm partial to a 9% fixed tax, across the board, Male/Female, 21-and-older...

AND THEN FORCE THE GUMMINT to make do with what it GETS!

417 Intrepid  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:47:20am

re: #414 karridine

Oh Lord, that's just awful! They're not even letting Thailand in? If they won't let Thailand in, they sure won't let anybody else in!

And China has its own disaster with the earthquake!

Makes my heart ache for the Burmese...

418 karridine  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:47:26am

I hear you, Miguel.

/"The people of (this socialist hellhole) only exist to support the State."

419 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:49:33am

re: #418 karridine

I hear you, Miguel.

/"The people of (this socialist hellhole) only exist to support the State."

So sadly true :(

420 Intrepid  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:49:49am

re: #418 karridine

What's the newest word on the death toll?

421 LeePro  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:50:10am

re: #412 MigueldowninMexico

Thanks, I was very hesitant there.

;D

422 karridine  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:51:52am

re: #417 Intrepid

And contributing countries are begging off, what with looming food shortages of their own...

Me gets a hunch we're on the cusp of a world-wide food/war/famine/disease disaster, and it won't be pretty and I might not make it through, but when humankind has been brought to its knees by its own stupidity, cupidity, willfulness and obstinance, those who survive will be prepared to turn heart and soul to the Lord, God Almighty!

/humbly

423 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:52:35am

re: #421 LeePro

;D

Heh ;)

424 karridine  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:54:29am

re: #420 Intrepid

It should've been 35,000 but its past 78,000 now, what with diarrhea and exposure, and starvation...

Cruel and calculated, Intrepid!

/Latabahn chai-dahm, ching-ching leuy!

425 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:56:08am

re: #411 LeePro

OMG! ! !

How'd you get inside my head?

through the back door... it was unlocked. %-)

/Repo Man

426 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:57:25am

re: #413 Intrepid

So who should pay?

The democrats say the earners should pay.
The republicans say the buyers should pay.

Who should pay?

everybody, equally?

/just a thought. %-)

427 littleoldlady  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:00:04am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

428 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:02:01am

re: #422 karridine

And contributing countries are begging off, what with looming food shortages of their own...

Me gets a hunch we're on the cusp of a world-wide food/war/famine/disease disaster, and it won't be pretty and I might not make it through, but when humankind has been brought to its knees by its own stupidity, cupidity, willfulness and obstinance, those who survive will be prepared to turn heart and soul to the Lord, God Almighty!

/humbly

or, if you've read history, maybe not.
(no religious offense intended, i'm just experienced.)

there is plenty of food in the world, it's just being dragged to the wrong places for the wrong reasons, and in certain areas, being restrained/withheld for political reasons, just as it's being diverted to alternative uses other places for political reasons. it's economics & politics, not pure supply & demand, imho.


"Cynicism is the smoke that rises from the ashes of burned out dreams."

429 karridine  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:03:03am

re: #426 redc1c4

That's what I said, #416...

EVERYBODY pays a little bit, EVERYBODY enjoys the benefits of OUR cooperation and sacrifice...

430 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:03:17am

re: #427 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

the fruit cup has been seized as an unauthorized foreign aid shipment and is being tested for insidious contaminants as we speak.

/all too true

431 Intrepid  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:05:42am

re: #424 karridine

It should've been 35,000 but its past 78,000 now, what with diarrhea and exposure, and starvation...

Cruel and calculated, Intrepid!

/Latabahn chai-dahm, ching-ching leuy!

Latabahn chai-rai, neh naun!

For some strange reason, I remember from my P.6 test studies, "Ahi watagarook". It is a term that will be reported much in the days to come!

God have mercy on them and bless them!

432 littleoldlady  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:06:32am

re: #430 redc1c4

I was about to ask Karridine for his address so I could send him some.

433 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:07:45am

re: #414 karridine

Intrepid, about the best that can be done is being done by Thailand, the only nation permitted to move any real amount of goods/helpers into Burma... and Thailand ain't being permitted to do very much a tall!

A 3 minute video, low-quality but smuggled past the censors, was shown on Thai TV about 3 days ago... fully HALF the video was just corpse after corpse after corpses... the vid-shooter couldn't ignore the ubiquity of the black, unburied bodies literally EVERYWHERE...

So that's what we're seeing, hearing re Burma, here...

what is the disaster level in the Karen & Kachin areas?

434 BlueCanuck  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:07:55am

re: #430 redc1c4

Darn, red messing with the decoys yet again?

/one of my lurk duties.

435 karridine  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:07:57am

re: #428 redc1c4

Oh, I'm with you on that, RedC... The gasohol debacle in Brazil and America driving food prices higher to compete/compensate for foodstock being diverted to gasohol production...

And govts (ie, Burmese, NorK) diverting what they're given, for THEIR people or soldiers, NOT the suffering...

And refusal to ring the Sahara with desalination plants and pumping stations, to turn that Canada-sized chunk of stuff into arable, FOOD-producing property...

Oh, we CAN do whatever we want, so when we get results like those we see around us, it is sure evidence that our Human Spirit is mal-attuned, individually and collectively, Red

436 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:09:39am

re: #427 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

Hello littleoldlady!
Thanks! :)

437 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:10:06am

re: #429 karridine

That's what I said, #416...

EVERYBODY pays a little bit, EVERYBODY enjoys the benefits of OUR cooperation and sacrifice...

that's prolly too high a flat tax: the geniuses would have too much money, and build new programs that would get out of control... especially if you considered corporations paying the same levy.

5% Fed, 2.5% state, max.

438 littleoldlady  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:10:28am

BlueCanuck! :-)

I think we need a logistics person to figure out how to smuggle it into Burma.

/oy

439 littleoldlady  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:11:10am

Miguelito! :-)

And where have you been, young man?!

440 LeePro  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:11:33am

re: #427 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

Made it!
{ { {littleoldlady} } }

Thanks for the fruitcup!
G'nite {Lizards}!

441 karridine  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:11:33am

re: #433 redc1c4

Less than in the basin-lowlands, Red... The typhoon blew in a 2-3 METER tidal surge, and that just uprooted houses, drowned people & livestock and pulled down infrastructure, such as it was...

But the Ka-rehn and Ka-chin (to help readers with pronunciation) are higher hill-tribes... hit, but not as severely by comparison.

442 Intrepid  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:11:53am

re: #432 littleoldlady

I was about to ask Karridine for his address so I could send him some.

It would take several boatloads of fruitcup to help those folks I fear, littleoldlady. I hope and pray for them that they will at least get some water, as that will help with cholera.

May God send both water and fruitcup to them, and may their idiot political leaders accept it, for the good of their people!

443 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:12:48am

re: #434 BlueCanuck

Darn, red messing with the decoys yet again?

/one of my lurk duties.

just publicizing a junta Press Release...

i sell those decoys at the swap meet as kitchen decorations

/ya can't bullshit a bullshitter. %-)

444 Intrepid  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:12:55am

re: #433 redc1c4

what is the disaster level in the Karen & Kachin areas?

The Karen should be far enough inland - not sure about the Kachin.

445 littleoldlady  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:13:18am

Lee! Hi! :-)

Bye! :-(

446 littleoldlady  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:15:04am

re: #442 Intrepid

Intrepid! :-)

If we could get it IN, I'm sure we'd come up with the boatloads somehow.

/adding my prayers to yours...

447 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:15:58am

re: #441 karridine

Less than in the basin-lowlands, Red... The typhoon blew in a 2-3 METER tidal surge, and that just uprooted houses, drowned people & livestock and pulled down infrastructure, such as it was...

But the Ka-rehn and Ka-chin (to help readers with pronunciation) are higher hill-tribes... hit, but not as severely by comparison.

that was my guess, but i hadn't gotten out the histories & maps to ascertain.

for those not hip to ancient history, both tribes fought side by side with US troops during WW2, and it has always disturbed me that we haven't done more to protect them. now would be a good time to air drop in all sorts of goodies and tell the junta in Rangoon to FOAD.

/just me

448 Intrepid  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:16:32am

re: #438 littleoldlady

BlueCanuck! :-)

I think we need a logistics person to figure out how to smuggle it into Burma.

/oy

I know missionary folks who are in that area...I can ask a few discrete questions as to what is going on behind the scenes.

With respect to Karradine...

449 Intrepid  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:19:27am

re: #447 redc1c4

that was my guess, but i hadn't gotten out the histories & maps to ascertain.

for those not hip to ancient history, both tribes fought side by side with US troops during WW2, and it has always disturbed me that we haven't done more to protect them. now would be a good time to air drop in all sorts of goodies and tell the junta in Rangoon to FOAD.

/just me

Can o' worms, Red. Big huge can o' worms, particularly with the Karen.

450 karridine  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:20:06am

re: #444 Intrepid

But no matter HOW high or low they're situated, if they're asking/demanding autonomy from the Gutless Generals, then they're LOW on the disaster relief list, THAT's for sure!

These are who the Burmese army were recently killing and displacing by the hundred-thousands... genocide, yeppir!

451 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:20:07am

re: #439 littleoldlady

Miguelito! :-)

And where have you been, young man?!

Sleeeping.
I've been able to sleep a few hours at night, so I take advantage.

452 littleoldlady  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:22:06am

re: #451 MigueldowninMexico

I'm jealous. :-(

453 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:22:25am

re: #450 karridine

But no matter HOW high or low they're situated, if they're asking/demanding autonomy from the Gutless Generals, then they're LOW on the disaster relief list, THAT's for sure!

These are who the Burmese army were recently killing and displacing by the hundred-thousands... genocide, yeppir!

Same in VietNam.
The government is mass murdering the Catholic peasants in the central mountain range.

Don't you love communism?

454 karridine  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:22:39am

re: #447 redc1c4

And that particular Relief Effort SINGS to me, too, My Brother!

Do what's right and let the Burmese chips fall where they may!

455 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:23:11am

re: #452 littleoldlady

I'm jealous. :-(

As a rewards for your prayers, I'll pray for you to be able to sleep better.

{LoL}

456 karridine  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:24:02am

I will not give in to hatred, but "I have sworn on the altar of God, eternal enmity to ALL FORMS of tyranny," to quote a Dead White Guy, Miguel...

457 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:24:38am

re: #435 karridine

Oh, I'm with you on that, RedC... The gasohol debacle in Brazil and America driving food prices higher to compete/compensate for foodstock being diverted to gasohol production..

/global warming bs, yet no one 'fesses up

And govts (ie, Burmese, NorK) diverting what they're given, for THEIR people or soldiers, NOT the suffering...

/but yet no one will sanction taking out said governments

And refusal to ring the Sahara with desalination plants and pumping stations, to turn that Canada-sized chunk of stuff into arable, FOOD-producing property...

/capital costs and theft. two show stoppers right off the top. then add white guilt & the UN/red cross and the cultural issues that are Africa. neva happen GI!.

Oh, we CAN do whatever we want, so when we get results like those we see around us, it is sure evidence that our Human Spirit is mal-attuned, individually and collectively, Red

if i think my individual Spirit is mal-attuned, i adjust the temperature on the still so that i'm getting the pure distillate again...

speaking of which, my personal spirit container is empty: BRB!

458 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:25:50am

re: #456 karridine

I will not give in to hatred, but "I have sworn on the altar of God, eternal enmity to ALL FORMS of tyranny," to quote a Dead White Guy, Miguel...

Was that Patrick Henry?

I adhere to that determination.

459 karridine  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:26:55am

re: #453 MigueldowninMexico

This IS a religious world civil-war, Miguel.

Lotsa folks here are uncomfortable with that, because it implies that those old tales from 6,000 and 5,000 and 4 and 3 and 2,000 years ago and 164 years ago May 23, 1844... implies that they're ALL evidence of the Hand of God...

and a growing, maturing humankind, like it or not, as we now must all live on One World...

460 karridine  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:27:47am

re: #458 MigueldowninMexico

Tomas Hefferson

461 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:28:44am

re: #449 Intrepid

Can o' worms, Red. Big huge can o' worms, particularly with the Karen.

should we wait for the worms to all be exterminated?

the junta has shown, once and for all, that it it unfit, by any measure, to lead any of it's people. the down side to the hill tribes resistance movements is due in part to this intransigence.

i say better some new worms and a chance to move things around than the status quo that is killing hundreds of thousands of people. doing nothing has gotten us where we are. my guess is more of the same will result in more of the same.

462 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:29:15am

re: #459 karridine

This IS a religious world civil-war, Miguel.

Lotsa folks here are uncomfortable with that, because it implies that those old tales from 6,000 and 5,000 and 4 and 3 and 2,000 years ago and 164 years ago May 23, 1844... implies that they're ALL evidence of the Hand of God...

and a growing, maturing humankind, like it or not, as we now must all live on One World...

I'm positive that this is a fight between light and darkness, yes.
And their respective followers.

Ok, Jefferson heh.

PH was the one who said "give me liberty or give me death", right?

I adhere to that also.

463 karridine  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:31:37am

re: #461 redc1c4

Well said, and observably congruent with the reality on the ground!

Status Quo is KILLING GOOD PEOPLE! Let's try a new way of dealing with military thugocracies!

464 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:31:51am

re: #459 karridine

This IS a religious world civil-war, Miguel.

Lotsa folks here are uncomfortable with that, because it implies that those old tales from 6,000 and 5,000 and 4 and 3 and 2,000 years ago and 164 years ago May 23, 1844... implies that they're ALL evidence of the Hand of God...

and a growing, maturing humankind, like it or not, as we now must all live on One World...

nope: that's why we have NASA...

/not that you could tell from the way they run it, but there's always private enterprise. %-)

465 The Other Les  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:33:09am

re: #453 MigueldowninMexico

Well since you asked. No.

466 littleoldlady  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:35:20am

re: #464 redc1c4

YUP!

467 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:35:30am

re: #465 The Other Les

Well since you asked. No.

LOL

468 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:40:24am
469 littleoldlady  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:40:58am

plooomie! :-)

470 The Other Les  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:42:04am

re: #468 ploome hineni

hello everyone

Hello.

471 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:42:57am

re: #453 MigueldowninMexico

Same in VietNam.
The government is mass murdering the Catholic peasants in the central mountain range.

Don't you love communism?

you forgot the Hmong... another group of Allies that we pretty much up & left.

/thanks Congress

/MM communism

472 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:45:27am
473 littleoldlady  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:47:08am

re: #472 ploome hineni

We're losing.

I have a nice brand new Coach bag for Spring.

/Chanel is out of budget at the moment...

474 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:47:21am

re: #471 redc1c4

I agree.

475 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:47:39am

Hey ploome! :)

476 karridine  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:49:40am

re: #462 MigueldowninMexico

And today, Patrick Henry is the (pseudonym for the) guy who gave us "Its in the Koran" and "You Owe Us an Apology"!

477 godfrey  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:51:54am

*yawn*

Is the sun out yet? This rock is making my butt numb.

478 Intrepid  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:52:01am

re: #461 redc1c4

should we wait for the worms to all be exterminated?

the junta has shown, once and for all, that it it unfit, by any measure, to lead any of it's people. the down side to the hill tribes resistance movements is due in part to this intransigence.

i say better some new worms and a chance to move things around than the status quo that is killing hundreds of thousands of people. doing nothing has gotten us where we are. my guess is more of the same will result in more of the same.

The Karen have been freedom fighters for a very long time now. But some of the factions have forgotten that children are not acceptable warriors to use in the cause. And there are many Karen child warriors out there fighting and dying for their cause, when they should be in school in the city.

I just Skyped a friend in Bangkok and asked what was going on behind the scenes - she said there isn't much, because the Prime Minister of Thailand went over and met with the Junta and then came back and said "The Military government is doing their best to deal with the situation".

There's a few more folks I can contact and ask, but that is disheartening.

479 karridine  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:52:56am

So, that's the latest from the Thai-Burma border in the wake of the Typhoon disaster... 78,000 dead and climbing, govt unwilling to let in anybody who might corroborate accusations of genocide...

...and I've got some Audio Spots to record! Seejoo lettah, Folks!

480 littleoldlady  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:53:41am

Karridine,

Thank you for the update.

/even though it's incredibly depressing... :-(

481 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:53:55am

re: #477 godfrey

*yawn*

Is the sun out yet? This rock is making my butt numb.

maybe if you didn't put you butt on it 5 times a day...

/white smoke

482 karridine  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:54:56am

re: #478 Intrepid

Good stuff, Kiddo! Really! I don't know everything here, I have my sources but you have others... tap into us all, rattle the bushes, see what flies up...

...and keep an eye on that accursed Burmese hunta!

483 karridine  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:57:20am

re: #480 littleoldlady

Karridine,

Thank you for the update.

/even though it's incredibly depressing... :-(

Little Olde, for just a minute or two, stop and VISUALIZE seventy-eight THOUSAND dead souls, men, women, children, elderly...

Then say a prayer for their advancement in the next world, and let the exercise be...

484 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:57:32am

re: #478 Intrepid

i agree that having children fight is disagreeable, but that's hardly a reason to condone genocide. if we had supported them previously, they might not be in the situation where they thought dipping that low in the manpower pool was necessary.

hell, with the proper support, they'd have their own independent country by now.

/and a whole list of different problems, but that's life.

485 yochanan  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:58:30am

re: #41 Sharmuta

sure looks like it esp what he posts on his blog unless he was someone who was banned.

486 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:58:47am

re: #482 karridine

Good stuff, Kiddo! Really! I don't know everything here, I have my sources but you have others... tap into us all, rattle the bushes, see what flies up...

...and keep an eye on that accursed Burmese hunta!

be much more effective to lase them at the appropriate time...

/Harmony Church Rules

487 godfrey  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:00:12am

Hi red

Listen, I've been sitting on foreign rocks these past ten days. Totally missed the Burma disaster.

By the way, I think the military junta and its top-down socialist stupidities should be called "Burma's postcolonial government."

Could they have been better off under the British wing? Maybe they should've given the British presence another generation.

488 Intrepid  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:01:36am

re: #484 redc1c4

i agree that having children fight is disagreeable, but that's hardly a reason to condone genocide. if we had supported them previously, they might not be in the situation where they thought dipping that low in the manpower pool was necessary.

hell, with the proper support, they'd have their own independent country by now.

/and a whole list of different problems, but that's life.

No condoning genocide here! Not in the remotest bit! But who is to say we haven't been supporting them? So many issues in that part of SEA...

It is not cut and dried.

And child warriors are NEVER acceptable! Not 12 year old boys with weapons they struggle to carry, much less shoot!

489 yochanan  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:02:23am

re: #483 karridine

any reports on the Bahai' leadership that the iranians arrested?

490 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:02:29am

re: #472 ploome hineni

...LoL...mwahhh

how is everybody? are we winning yet?

did you find me a handbag?

we've got a hand basket, but you might not like where it's headed...

Road to Nowhere

491 littleoldlady  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:03:17am

re: #483 karridine

Unfortunately, I can visualize that.

/and much worse. :-(

492 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:04:40am

re: #487 godfrey

Hi red

Listen, I've been sitting on foreign rocks these past ten days. Totally missed the Burma disaster.

By the way, I think the military junta and its top-down socialist stupidities should be called "Burma's postcolonial government."

Could they have been better off under the British wing? Maybe they should've given the British presence another generation.

i was making a bad joke about the rocks... never mind.

(don't need to get banned %-)

493 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:06:32am

re: #476 karridine

And today, Patrick Henry is the (pseudonym for the) guy who gave us "Its in the Koran" and "You Owe Us an Apology"!

That's true, Karridine!
I have both in my HD.

He does it so well! lol

494 godfrey  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:07:52am

Miguel!

495 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:08:10am

re: #494 godfrey

Miguel!

Hello godfrey! :)

496 godfrey  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:08:17am

There have been bannings?

497 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:09:01am

re: #496 godfrey

There have been bannings?

Quite a few, it seems.

I dare say maybe 12 in the last two weeks.

Among them, storagemanager...

498 littleoldlady  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:09:58am

re: #497 MigueldowninMexico

WOW. What happened with storage?

/how do I always miss this stuff?!
// Just lucky, I guess

499 yochanan  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:10:05am

problem with all communist countries not just Burma or china is that they don't have an independent civil society to keep the gov't in check. no one to see if the building codes are more than just the paper they are printed on.
example in China no use of steel support beams or rebare in buildings that needed it, thus in major earthquake they fail. One of the reasons that during natural disasters people in communist/islamo fascist countries do so much worse.

500 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:10:28am

re: #497 MigueldowninMexico

Quite a few, it seems.

I dare say maybe 12 in the last two weeks.

Among them, storagemanager...

WHAT?

Good morning, Lizards.

PLEASE EXPLAIN!

501 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:10:52am

re: #498 littleoldlady

WOW. What happened with storage?

/how do I always miss this stuff?!
// Just lucky, I guess

I think that yes, you're lucky ;)

502 godfrey  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:11:20am

No! Wow.

I love Caroline Glick:

The repeated assertion is that once Hizbullah and the Palestinians were placed in charge of territory, and didn't have Israel to kick around anymore, they would transform themselves from insurgents into respectable civilian authorities that would be compelled to abandon war in favor of building economies and keeping public order.

The basic problem with this Israeli strategic assertion is that it ignores the basic interests of the other side. Hizbullah and the Palestinians have no interest in instilling order in the territories they wrest from Israeli control.

Preach it. The West's support for the "two-state solution" is predicated on this fundamental error, and that error says more about Western preconceptions and wishful thinking than it does about reality.

503 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:12:33am

I don't remember very well what happened with storage.
It seems he used up all of Charles' pacience.
But I don't remember specifically why.

504 yochanan  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:13:46am

no whorled peas in Gaza for sure even though there is no hated occupation there anymore.

505 godfrey  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:13:58am

Where's Babba? Has she been around?

506 godfrey  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:18:26am

Oh, one last thing before breakfast: does anyone actually use Digg?

What a complete waste of brainpower.

507 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:18:41am

re: #488 Intrepid

No condoning genocide here! Not in the remotest bit! But who is to say we haven't been supporting them? So many issues in that part of SEA...

It is not cut and dried.

And child warriors are NEVER acceptable! Not 12 year old boys with weapons they struggle to carry, much less shoot!

an AR-15/M-16 weighs a whopping 8.5 pounds loaded. an AK a few pounds more. (never memorized that fact: i didn't carry it). a 12 year old can carry/operate one. shooting them is easy: they're designed to be that way. extra ammo/water/food is another issue, but that's life in the Infantry. so is shooting them accurately, but in combat, that's problematic anyway, as all studies have shown.

i say again: i am against "child warriors", but the Kachin and the Karens have been effectively abandoned by the "free world". that is our disgrace and any issues with "child warriors" pretty much falls back on us.

we didn't support them. we didn't give them the logistic support they needed to survive and defend their homelands. we didn't give them the diplomatic support they needed to get their independence. they, on the other hand, fought and died with us in WW2, when they likely could have just disappeared into the forest and let us sort it out amongst ourselves. where is *our* honor?

instead, we tacitly supported the government that strangled and killed them in their lands, and now, when their backs are too the wall, we should put the boot in because they made a hard call for survival?

i say we pick a side and stand for what this country was founded on, and let the usual suspects bitch. that's all they ever do anyway.

/Harmony Church Rules

508 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:20:49am

Goddess
Here.

509 opnion  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:22:36am

Good Morning Lizards. Michelle Obama is not proud of you.

510 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:23:36am

Since there have been a few updtates, I'd like to post the list this morning.
Prayers for comfort, strength, healing, and hope 5/20/08

Health issues:
Jim Robinson of FreeRepublic.com: leg amputated
incanus: uncle dying of liver cancer
Pro-Bush Canuck: sister’s illness
LanceKates: dad’s continued recovery from surgery
Ma Sands: daughter dealing with postpartum issues
Tarkus289: father is in hospital; may have pneumonia after two strokes and stage 7 Alzheimer'
kcladderman: father’s throat cancer; just finisher second round of radiation
Clutch: 82-year-old mom’s recovery from eye surgery
realwest: cancer; mom diagnosed with Type II diabetes
BBev: wife’s illness; recovering from surgery
Kenneth: beloved daughter "M" serious chronic illness.
loppyd: nephew, recently diagnosed with Type I Diabetes
Babbazee: ancillary health problems
Cartman: liver and other health problems
Irene NYC: mom’s cancer
EC Marm: wife is hurt
Lucius Septimius: mother
Storagemanager: copd (chronic obstructive pulmonary disease)
BenZacharia: wifffeee’s recovery from surgery
USMC1968: cancer

Family, friend, and life situations:
bebelbrox: upheaval in life
SavageNation: wife's best friend, Geneine (29) died 5/14 of ovarian cancer, leaving 3 little kids behind.
Shrug: Mrs. Shrug—Shrug Junior due in 2 ½ weeks
Lizards who are traveling, especially those going abroad.
Eyes of Blue: daughter’s neighbor's husband was killed in Iraq yesterday. His son and my grandson are best buds. They are 2. I don't know what his name is but his son is named Drake. He had 2 kids ages 1 and 2
committed: brother lost his mobile home to fire this past week
Intrepid:. Mom has Alzheimer's and Intrepid is caretaker
Gromster: mother’s passing
Bikermailman: mom’s heart surgery next month
Loppyd: stepfather recovering from serious surgery
wolfie: nephew (USAR) who is being sent into the thick of things in Iraq. We lost another nephew (USMC) two years ago.
vxbush: father’s passing; her & son
conservgirl: atheist SPM, that he finds the Lord
Lizards with family issues
Savage Nation: Dad Frank’s passing & new direction
Hayseed: extended family challenges
gibsonz: the passing of Sonia Neeley
Maximus: son reports for active duty in August.
Noraono: colleagues laid off in building industry
antiislamist: in need of prayers
tfc3rid: friend’s passing shortly after diagnosis, leaving wife and 2 young children; friend’s pregnancy/complications
lone_wolf_in_illinois: friends and family in Israel
Crusader Rabbit: safe traveling
Spidly: brother’s passing
GotC: EH/kids; losing cousin and aunt within 4 months
Danger close: general
zulubaby, Carl in Jerusalem, Mr Pol, Golden Jerusalem, basically all the minion in eretz Yisrael
noam sayin': comfort for a lost brother
DorianGrey: much sorrow
Buckeye Abroad: in the belly of the beast of Eurabia
ChildOfMary: job for hubby and health for self
nonic: general
yank in EU: general
MdiM: general
Suzette: general


Community issues:
Gilad Schalit, Ehud Goldwasser, Eldad Regev, for their release.
Those at risk for speaking the truth
The families of John Young and Ron Withrow and those of the contractors still held hostage
Those pushing back against dhimmitude
Israel, especially for those who mourn
Ezra Levant and Brian at Snapped Shot: for justice

Thanksgivings

laZardo: friend’s brain scan came back clear
savage nation: healing in family
BlueCanuck (and mom)--brother, SIL, and niece in China and safe.
The Albatross: my father-in-law Walt, cancer reoccurrence, but living life to fullest
FishFearMe: "artifact" or a "sclerotic bone lesion" on sacroiliac IS BENIGN!.
killgore trout: stepfather’s doing better
Conservgirl: Father-in-law Oliver is in remission from Multiple Myeloma. It's a miracle.
Suzette: things improving
MamaWinger Father in law doing better

511 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:24:32am

Goddess
Thanks a lot for keeping and posting that list!
God bless you abundantly :)

512 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:24:48am

re: #508 MigueldowninMexico

Goddess
Here.

Any particular reason?

I think he's posting over at BabbaZee's blog, but I'm not sure.

513 littleoldlady  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:25:03am

re: #509 opnion

Good Morning Lizards. Michelle Obama is not proud of you.

Yeah, but my mother finally is.

/took WAY longer than Michelle...
//trust me.

opnion! :-)

514 godfrey  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:25:08am

Did you all see this story?

Muslims School Officials Attack News Crew in MN

Local ABC affiliate KSTP has also continued to update the reporting on this story. Today they went to the school to determine how TiZA would respond to the state’s demand for corrective action. Instead, they found themselves at the center of the story as two TiZA officials attacked the news crew and stole their camera

I suppose the news crew was not there to "celebrate diversity," eh?

515 littleoldlady  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:26:12am

goddess! :-)

Miguel,

That didn't explain anything, other than yes, it sounds as though Charles lost patience.

516 rightside  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:27:26am

Morning Lizards!

517 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:28:12am

re: #512 goddessoftheclassroom

Any particular reason?

I think he's posting over at BabbaZee's blog, but I'm not sure.

Not that I was aware of. It seemed more like fatigue than some particular comment, or comments, contrary to most bannings I've seen.

518 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:28:40am

re: #515 littleoldlady

goddess! :-)

Miguel,

That didn't explain anything, other than yes, it sounds as though Charles lost patience.

Exactly!

519 godfrey  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:30:15am

Morning, rightside!

520 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:30:54am

Ok, dear lizards.
My eyelids are heavy zzz.
Good bye and God bless all :)

521 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:31:08am

re: #509 opnion

Good Morning Lizards. Michelle Obama is not proud of you.

that's okay... she's still welcome to the body moisture from my neither regions.

/besides: she's not helping my children with her statements. %-)

522 Pater Coop  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:31:29am

Good morning, everybody! Goddess, how do you think the AP testing went?

523 rightside  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:31:29am

re: #519 godfrey

morning godfrey!

524 opnion  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:33:25am

re: #513 littleoldlady

Yeah, but my mother finally is.

/took WAY longer than Michelle...
//trust me.

opnion! :-)

All things considered, you are better off.

525 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:33:26am

re: #515 littleoldlady

goddess! :-)

Miguel,

That didn't explain anything, other than yes, it sounds as though Charles lost patience.

pretty sure that's all it takes.

/his house

526 godfrey  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:33:54am

Is is unreasonable to conclude that Michelle Obama is a pampered, bitter, vindictive, race-baiting, demagogic young harridan?

527 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:34:32am

re: #522 Pater Coop

Thanks for asking!

The Lizard in Training felt he did well. We'll have to see...

528 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:35:09am

re: #520 MigueldowninMexico

Ok, dear lizards.
My eyelids are heavy zzz.
Good bye and God bless all :)

Good night, {MigueldowninMexico}!

529 opnion  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:37:40am

re: #526 godfrey

Is is unreasonable to conclude that Michelle Obama is a pampered, bitter, vindictive, race-baiting, demagogic young harridan?

No, that is totally reasonable.

530 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:38:21am

re: #526 godfrey

Is is unreasonable to conclude that Michelle Obama is a pampered, bitter, vindictive, race-baiting, demagogic young harridan?

at 44, she's not *young*... unless you buy into the whole "50 is the new 30" bullshit.

/my body wont.

531 littleoldlady  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:42:00am

'Night, Miguelito! :-)

My husband - normally a "yapper" - watched a few minutes of Michelle on TV the other day and was succinct for maybe the first time in his life:

"EWWW!"

532 godfrey  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:42:18am

Well, usually one hears "old harridan." She's 44? And still so locked into her spite? Brr.

533 godfrey  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:43:24am

re: #530 redc1c4

I buy into the "40 is the new 30" BS completely, though. Everything got wayyy better after 30.

534 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:44:32am

re: #530 redc1c4

at 44, she's not *young*... unless you buy into the whole "50 is the new 30" bullshit.

/my body wont.

Ahem.
Forty-four IS TOO young!

/guess my age...

535 sparrowlake  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:45:03am

re: #526 godfrey

Is is unreasonable to conclude that Michelle Obama is a pampered, bitter, vindictive, race-baiting, demagogic young harridan?

Yes.
Hubby thinks she's a sweetie.
And she ain't no spring chicken.

536 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:46:48am

re: #532 godfrey

Well, usually one hears "old harridan." She's 44? And still so locked into her spite? Brr.

yup: her childhood issues have issues. Get Over It!

537 WriterMom  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:48:00am

re: #502 godfrey

What am I? Chopped livah?

538 opnion  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:48:03am

re: #532 godfrey

Well, usually one hears "old harridan." She's 44? And still so locked into her spite? Brr.

It is really not reasonable for the Obama people to think that Michelle can make outrageous statements and that the opposition party will just ignore her.

539 godfrey  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:48:05am

I like summer chickens.

540 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:48:25am

re: #533 godfrey

I buy into the "40 is the new 30" BS completely, though. Everything got wayyy better after 30.

must be nice: my body went to hell... "Army Training Sir!"

/11B10

541 godfrey  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:48:35am

re: #537 WriterMom

WRITERMOM!

/snoopy dance

542 WriterMom  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:50:47am

Hahaha. I have 5 more minutes of quiet. Then its chaos.

543 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:51:00am

re: #534 goddessoftheclassroom

Ahem.
Forty-four IS TOO young!

/guess my age...

too young for what? we're all waiting for you to share your deepest, most innermost and secretive thoughts...

/evil

544 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:51:38am

re: #538 opnion

It is really not reasonable for the Obama people to think that Michelle can make outrageous statements and that the opposition party will just ignore her.

/racist!

545 WriterMom  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:51:44am

re: #526 godfrey

No.

546 WriterMom  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:52:36am

Have a great day...BBL.

547 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:52:59am

re: #539 godfrey

I like summer chickens.

i prefer summer pork butts, summer briskets, summer ribs, etc...

and who could forget summer Tri-Tips!

548 godfrey  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:53:25am

WriterMom, only 5 minutes? Me, too. And I have 10 minutes of new anecdotes ready to go!

549 sparrowlake  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:53:52am

re: #539 godfrey

I like summer chickens.


LOL.
Then you probably remember this.

550 godfrey  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:54:14am

"Tri-Tips"?

Is that some kind of betting? Summer in Saratoga is real nice.

551 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:54:20am

re: #543 redc1c4

too young for what? we're all waiting for you to share your deepest, most innermost and secretive thoughts...

/evil

either that, or you're old and faking it. %-)

/white smoke

552 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:55:26am

re: #550 godfrey

"Tri-Tips"?

Is that some kind of betting? Summer in Saratoga is real nice.

nope: Food of the Gawds!

553 godfrey  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:55:31am

re: #549 sparrowlake

I don't remember it. I'm 41. But I dig it, daddy-o. Gene Vincent, too.

554 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:55:44am

re: #543 redc1c4

too young for what? we're all waiting for you to share your deepest, most innermost and secretive thoughts...

/evil

Ok, fine, my post did not adequately convey the necessary whine of a 10-year-old. Allow me to try again.

redc1c4: "at 44, she's not *young*..."

gotc: (sticking out tongue) Is too!

555 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:57:28am

re: #554 goddessoftheclassroom

Ok, fine, my post did not adequately convey the necessary whine of a 10-year-old. Allow me to try again.

redc1c4: "at 44, she's not *young*..."

gotc: (sticking out tongue) Is too!

i feel yo' pain... %-)

/just turned 49

Taurus

556 godfrey  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:58:07am

Today's college freshmen were born around 1989.

/good Lord

557 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:59:22am

having upset nearly all the female lizards posting, and incited a civil war in SEA, i think i'll head for bed before the boss has her alarm go off.

who knows: i might actually get something done today.

Scouts Out!

L8r, y'all...

558 opnion  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:59:38am

re: #544 redc1c4

/racist!

According to Bob Beckle , anything less than flattering about either Obama is racist

559 godfrey  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:00:14am

Cheers, red.

College freshmen were still in diapers when the Berlin Wall fell.

560 littleoldlady  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:00:34am

I'm hanging out with a bunch of Spring chickens!

/ACK!
//Fall chicken, here
///everything is falling; gravity is NOT my friend :-(

Do they still make Geritol™?

/are you old enough to remember it?

Good day, ALL!™

561 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:00:39am

re: #556 godfrey

Today's college freshmen were born around 1989.

/good Lord

Reagan babies?

/room for hope?

/what was i thinking... "doomed".

562 godfrey  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:01:38am

re: #558 opnion

Oh, Beckel... Now there's a true hatchet man. A monolith of pure agenda.

563 Jim in Virginia  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:01:39am

re: #554 goddessoftheclassroom

Ok, fine, my post did not adequately convey the necessary whine of a 10-year-old. Allow me to try again.

redc1c4: "at 44, she's not *young*..."

gotc: (sticking out tongue) Is too!


OK, who are you and what have you done with goddess? (who is always mature, sophisticated, etc.)
Rainy morning here in VA. We've had rain six of the last eight days by my count.

564 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:01:52am

Got to run--take care, Lizards!

565 godfrey  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:01:57am

re: #560 littleoldlady

We love you, littleoldlady!

566 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:02:14am

re: #563 Jim in Virginia

OK, who are you and what have you done with goddess? (who is always mature, sophisticated, etc.)
Rainy morning here in VA. We've had rain six of the last eight days by my count.

LOL!

567 Jim in Virginia  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:03:30am

re: #556 godfrey

Today's college freshmen were born around 1989.

/good Lord


No memories of Ronald Reagan's presidency, few of Bill Clinton's.

568 godfrey  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:04:04am

Jim in VA!

I've got to run -- listen, just wanted to say that I'm still running, and turning nicely into a distance guy. Might go for a half-marathon. At 41, my sprinting potential went into senescence about, lesseee, twenty years ago.

569 sparrowlake  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:04:52am
570 godfrey  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:04:55am

re: #567 Jim in Virginia

Easy pickin's.

571 Jim in Virginia  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:05:16am

re: #560 littleoldlady

I'm hanging out with a bunch of Spring chickens!

/ACK!
//Fall chicken, here
///everything is falling; gravity is NOT my friend :-(

Do they still make Geritol™?

/are you old enough to remember it?

Good day, ALL!™


Serutan spelled backwards is natures. Geritol spelled backwards is Lotireg.
(52 here. It doesnt feel old.)

572 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:05:17am

re: #563 Jim in Virginia

OK, who are you and what have you done with goddess? (who is always mature, sophisticated, etc.)
Rainy morning here in VA. We've had rain six of the last eight days by my count.

it's been clear, dry and hot as hell here for about a week.

wanna trade?

goddess just found out she's a mirror to Michelle Obama, and that may have rocked her world view a tad, just from a cooties POV.

/gonna be clear, dry, hot, & burning until (if) the winter rains get here.

573 godfrey  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:05:46am

re: #569 sparrowlake

Ha! Most of them have never touched a record player.

574 godfrey  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:06:20am

OK, looks like the morning crew is starting to arrive. Cheers to all.

575 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:06:23am

re: #567 Jim in Virginia

No memories of Ronald Reagan's presidency, few of Bill Clinton's.

to my undying horror, i can remember Jimmy Carter.

/farther back too, but not as bad. %-)

576 redc1c4  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:07:08am

take 2:

nite/morning all!

L8r!

577 Jim in Virginia  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:08:09am

re: #568 godfrey

Jim in VA!

I've got to run -- listen, just wanted to say that I'm still running, and turning nicely into a distance guy. Might go for a half-marathon. At 41, my sprinting potential went into senescence about, lesseee, twenty years ago.


Do it!
I did a half marathon on Sunday. Perfect weather to run,and I made my goal. (I finished.) I'm signed up for the Marine Corps marathon next fall.

578 sparrowlake  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:09:06am

re: #571 Jim in Virginia

Serutan spelled backwards is natures. Geritol spelled backwards is Lotireg.
(52 here. It doesnt feel old.)

LOL.
Can't ya feel it growin'?

579 Jim in Virginia  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:11:06am

re: #575 redc1c4

to my undying horror, i can remember Jimmy Carter.

/farther back too, but not as bad. %-)

I remember getting up in 1979, hearing the news of the failed Iranian rescue mission, and thinking, my God, we've become a nation of Italians.

580 Bubblehead II  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:12:19am

re: #575 redc1c4

Morning Lizards.

Hell, I can remember watching news reports from Viet Nam on the evening news, Watergate and Gerald Ford stumbling down the stairs of Air Force One.

581 galloping granny  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:15:30am

re: #580 Bubblehead II

Morning Lizards.

Hell, I can remember watching news reports from Viet Nam on the evening news, Watergate and Gerald Ford stumbling down the stairs of Air Force One.

I remember the night that Dwight Eisenhower was elected :)

582 tokyobk  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:17:14am
re: #526 godfrey

Is is unreasonable to conclude that Michelle Obama is a pampered, bitter, vindictive, race-baiting, demagogic young harridan?

No, that is totally reasonable.

I like Obama a lot more than most people around here seem to, but it is obvious even to me having had a sip or two of the Kool-Aid that Obama married way beneath his intellect to get some needed authenticity. He is after all not only not a decscendent of African Americans who went through the horrors of slavery and Reconstruction and Jim Crow, but a descendent on both sides of slave owners and traders.

583 Jim in Virginia  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:20:16am

Via Tigerhawk, here's an anti discrimination law I can support. Britain acts against Harrod's ban on troops in uniform.

584 WayDownSouthInBama  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:20:26am
"... anybody who knowingly makes the world a stupider place to live in ..."

Stupider? Physician,heal thyself!

585 Jim in Virginia  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:21:21am

re: #581 galloping granny

I remember the night that Dwight Eisenhower was elected :)


Now I can't remember why I came downstairs.

586 Bubblehead II  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:22:05am

re: #581 galloping granny

Ya got me beat. :-)

Anybody link to this story yet? This is one lucky dude!

Photos Show Marine's Narrow Escape From Death in Afghanistan

587 galloping granny  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:22:26am

re: #585 Jim in Virginia

Now I can't remember why I came downstairs.

That too. Or where I last saw my glasses. Or what day of the week it is.

588 galloping granny  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:23:13am

re: #586 Bubblehead II

Ya got me beat. :-)

Anybody link to this story yet? This is one lucky dude!

Photos Show Marine's Narrow Escape From Death in Afghanistan

I don't know if anyone linked it yet. I saw that yesterday.

589 Jim in Virginia  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:27:43am

re: #587 galloping granny

That too. Or where I last saw my glasses. Or what day of the week it is.


What were we talking about anyway?

590 galloping granny  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:29:16am

re: #589 Jim in Virginia

What were we talking about anyway?

We were talking?

591 Jim in Virginia  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:29:43am

Breaking news on Fox: Iraqi troops move to seize control of Sadr City.
Bye bye Moqtada.

592 Bubblehead II  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:30:26am

Well time to head off to work. I will leave you all with this song as the sun is just lighting up the sky here in Twin Falls

Morning Has Broken

L8R

593 Areopagitica  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:37:40am

re: #12 karmic_inquisitor

"Lighten up Frances. One of these men might save your life one day."

"And then again maybe one of us won't"

re: #15 MandyManners

Its from the movie Stripes with Bill Murray, Harold Ramis and John Candy

594 LittleRed1  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:37:59am

Good morning! It's a lovely 60 degrees here, light west wind and an average sunrise. Sunset was better.

595 LittleRed1  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:40:47am

Re # 591. I suppose this means that Al Sader's handlers in Iran decided to be shed of him. Do you think he got cold feet, or that they just no longer think they need him and his supporters?

596 pingjockey  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:41:00am

Morning all. I must admit that is the first time that I've ever gone to digg. Whoop de damn do.

597 pingjockey  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:43:15am

Good Lord, Cher is 64 today.

598 yochanan  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:45:27am

any lizards in Oz?
whats up with this story?

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
'roos offed to save rare lizards?

599 galloping granny  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:45:42am

re: #597 pingjockey

Good Lord, Cher is 64 today.

ROFL! Yup. Still looks pretty good too, even if it is mostly plastic and hormone shots these days.

600 Widow'smight  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:47:44am

re: #596 pingjockey

I went outside to digg this morning, had to plant 4 rhodedendrons. Later, I'll digg for a hydrangea, and a few Clematis.

Never disgusts me, were you digging on some moonbat chick or sumpin?

601 Jim in Virginia  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:47:57am

re: #597 pingjockey

Good Lord, Cher is 64 today.

That's nothing, Tina Turner at 68 is going out on tour this summer. She still looks hot.

602 mikeinmd  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:49:22am

Commissioning Week in Annapolis

Blue Angels due to arrive today @ 11. Drizzly, dreary day here, Hope I get to see them when they arrive, at least.

Have a great day, everyone. Gotta go make MO'M some dough.

603 pingjockey  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:50:01am

re: #600 Widow'smight
No, went to the link at the top of the page. Some fool totally(as usual) misread the thread about Fwance and hamasholes.

604 haakondahl  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:50:59am

To boldly go where no man has gone before!

George Takei to get "married" now that California has become an oligarchy.

605 Lucius Septimius  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:51:47am

Good morning all. 67 degrees in the greater metropolitan Doraville area as we get a slow start this morning. Chance for thunderboomers later.

How's everyone this fine sunny morning?

606 Widow'smight  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:53:22am

re: #603 pingjockey

I try not to ruin my day by exploring the Dark side of the Moonbats.

How's the weather out there?

607 galloping granny  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:53:38am

re: #600 Widow'smight

I went outside to digg this morning, had to plant 4 rhodedendrons. Later, I'll digg for a hydrangea, and a few Clematis.

Never disgusts me, were you digging on some moonbat chick or sumpin?

What kind of clematis did you get?

608 Lucius Septimius  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:55:47am

From yesterday's BotW, in a report on Lieberman's speech, this little tidbit:

we decided to ask him [Lieberman] about the 2000 nominee. Two years after that election, we noted, Lieberman's erstwhile running mate was delivering angry anti-Iraq rants to MoveOn.org. What, we asked, happened to Al Gore?

Lieberman's answer: "Damned if I know."

609 Lucius Septimius  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:56:29am

re: #607 galloping granny

What kind of clematis did you get?

Isn't that that clam and tomato juice stuff? How would that help the garden? I'm so confused ...

610 pingjockey  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:58:15am

re: #606 Widow'smight
Nice today. Low 80s. Slight chance of showers. The run off from the snow pack has finally started and the rafters will be out in force.

611 yochanan  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:58:28am

re: #608 Lucius Septimius

From yesterday's BotW, in a report on Lieberman's speech, this little tidbit:


WORKS FOR ME

612 galloping granny  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:59:01am

re: #609 Lucius Septimius

Isn't that that clam and tomato juice stuff? How would that help the garden? I'm so confused ...

Clematis are big beautiful flowers usually 6-8 inches across that grow on a vine. My mother had a purple one (Jackmanii I think) that covered the entire outside of the porch. They look wonderfully festive and tropical but will even grow in Vermont.

613 yochanan  Tue, May 20, 2008 5:06:09am

STRIPERS MAKE A COMEBACK IN VA.
[Link: www.wtopnews.com...]

614 Lucius Septimius  Tue, May 20, 2008 5:12:21am

Sure is quiet 'round here ...

615 Widow'smight  Tue, May 20, 2008 5:13:18am

re: #607 galloping granny

I have about 7 so far, different colors and types. Just bought 3 pink ones (wife chose them over Purple). I used Chicken wire to cover the neighbors Stockade fence for them to grow on.

Right behind my Hydrangea bushes.

I must take mini-mom to the bus, maybe I'll see you later.

616 Widow'smight  Tue, May 20, 2008 5:14:24am

re: #610 pingjockey


Here's hoping for good news coming from the rafters.

You have a great day, gotta go.

617 Lucius Septimius  Tue, May 20, 2008 5:18:36am

Oh well, while everyone is chewing their bagels, a couple of reviews of what look to be good books.

The Rebel Had Second Thoughts

The First War of North and South (I've glanced at the second of these -- gave it to my mom for her summer reading)

618 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 5:19:37am
619 irish rose  Tue, May 20, 2008 5:22:13am

Good morning lizards, I don't have a lot of time to chat, but I had some wonderful news to wake up to this morning!

The U.S.S. Nimitz turned East towards home this morning, following an off load with the U.S.S. Niagra Falls. The captain played a breakaway tune over the PA when they pulled away, a rousing rendition of "Home Sweet Home" (Motley Crue) to the cheers of everyone on board.

My son is coming home.

620 doriangrey  Tue, May 20, 2008 5:22:39am

Good morning Lizards...

621 galloping granny  Tue, May 20, 2008 5:23:16am

re: #615 Widow'smight

I have about 7 so far, different colors and types. Just bought 3 pink ones (wife chose them over Purple). I used Chicken wire to cover the neighbors Stockade fence for them to grow on.

Right behind my Hydrangea bushes.

I must take mini-mom to the bus, maybe I'll see you later.

I like that idea! I've been thinking about covering the stockade fence that surrounds the pool area with Arctic Beauty kiwi - the tricolors.

622 galloping granny  Tue, May 20, 2008 5:23:49am

re: #619 irish rose

Good morning lizards, I don't have a lot of time to chat, but I had some wonderful news to wake up to this morning!

The U.S.S. Nimitz turned East towards home this morning, following an off load with the U.S.S. Niagra Falls. The captain played a breakaway tune over the PA when they pulled away, a rousing rendition of "Home Sweet Home" (Motley Crue) to the cheers of everyone on board.

My son is coming home.

Congratulations! I know you will be overjoyed to see him.

623 doriangrey  Tue, May 20, 2008 5:24:53am

re: #614 Lucius Septimius

Sure is quiet 'round here ...

Yea, way to quiet if you ask me...

624 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 5:29:42am
625 Lucius Septimius  Tue, May 20, 2008 5:42:47am

re: #620 doriangrey

re: #619 irish rose

re: #618 savage_nation

Good morning and welcome --

Irish Rose -- glad to hear about your son.

626 LeftJustAintRight  Tue, May 20, 2008 5:46:50am

re: #625 Lucius Septimius
Lucius
I found a job for you

Lucius @ CU

627 doriangrey  Tue, May 20, 2008 5:46:54am

re: #625 Lucius Septimius

re: #619 irish rose

re: #618 savage_nation

Good morning and welcome --

Irish Rose -- glad to hear about your son.

So ummm, whats the deal with this unnatural quiet here this morning? Has a Lizard gotten everyones keyboard?

628 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 5:48:21am
629 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 5:49:14am

Good morning Y'all - from a warm (68 degrees, going up to 74 degrees with rain in the forecast) muggy and overcast Charlotte!
How is everyone this fine morning?

AND - did any of y'all have a problem getting on LGF this morning?!

630 doriangrey  Tue, May 20, 2008 5:49:54am

re: #628 savage_nation

Hamsters must be on strike

Oh dear... Either Stinky forget to feed them again, or Charles must have forgotten to send out the Zionist checks...

631 maddogg  Tue, May 20, 2008 5:50:26am

Heres an RNC ad. thats gonna hurt Michelle's sock puppet in flyover country.

632 chief long name  Tue, May 20, 2008 5:51:02am

re: #629 realwest

Good morning brother B.
/no but just woke up

633 doriangrey  Tue, May 20, 2008 5:51:31am

re: #629 realwest

Good morning Y'all - from a warm (68 degrees, going up to 74 degrees with rain in the forecast) muggy and overcast Charlotte!
How is everyone this fine morning?

AND - did any of y'all have a problem getting on LGF this morning?!

Good morning realwest from a slightly foggy San Diego Ca... I did have one moment of page not found, but it only lasted for a couple of minutes.

634 Lucius Septimius  Tue, May 20, 2008 5:52:51am

re: #629 realwest

Mornin' Real.

Yes, I had trouble.

635 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 5:52:57am

re: #632 chief long name
Good morning Chief! Well I had about three Pages NNot Found messages but persistence paid off!
How are you doing today?

636 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 5:53:41am
637 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 5:54:10am

re: #633 doriangrey
and
re: #634 Lucius Septimius
Ah, it's nice to know that it wasn't my TimeWarner Cable for a change! LOL!

How are each of you guys doing today?

638 doriangrey  Tue, May 20, 2008 5:55:42am

re: #637 realwest

and
re: #634 Lucius Septimius
Ah, it's nice to know that it wasn't my TimeWarner Cable for a change! LOL!

How are each of you guys doing today?

Sigh, doing very well thank you, however now that LGF is starting to show signs of life, its almost time for me to trundle off to work...

639 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 5:56:12am

Holy crap - there really must be something to this Hamster "work slowdown" cause there's barely 100 of us on line right now!
Someone please call the Hamster Shop Steward right away!

640 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 5:57:40am

re: #638 doriangrey Well, that always seems to be the case for you my friend! Y'all gotta get a job with better hours - I mean Lordy, it's only 5:56 AM where you are; how long is your commute?

641 The Albatross  Tue, May 20, 2008 5:58:10am

re: #629 realwest

As I was going through the link depot I got caught in limbo a couple of times and had to reboot. Good morning Realwest!

642 LeftJustAintRight  Tue, May 20, 2008 5:58:41am

'Bush intends to attack Iran before the end of his term'

US President George W. Bush intends to attack Iran in the upcoming months, before the end of his term, Army Radio quoted a senior official in Jerusalem as saying Tuesday


Bush Intends to Attack Iran before term ends

643 Nevergiveup  Tue, May 20, 2008 5:59:12am

re: #640 realwest

Well, that always seems to be the case for you my friend! Y'all gotta get a job with better hours - I mean Lordy, it's only 5:56 AM where you are; how long is your commute?

My favorite day of work is friday. I start at 6:00 AM and I am out here by 1:00 PM. I would start every day that early if I could.

644 doriangrey  Tue, May 20, 2008 5:59:33am

re: #640 realwest

Well, that always seems to be the case for you my friend! Y'all gotta get a job with better hours - I mean Lordy, it's only 5:56 AM where you are; how long is your commute?

40 to 45 minutes... But I love my commute... Long winding roads... 1984 Corvette... Whats not to love (gas prices not withstanding)...

645 doriangrey  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:00:15am

re: #642 LeftJustAintRight

'Bush intends to attack Iran before the end of his term'


Bush Intends to Attack Iran before term ends

Sigh...IF ONLY IT WERE TRUE...

646 Nevergiveup  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:00:25am

re: #642 LeftJustAintRight

'Bush intends to attack Iran before the end of his term'


Bush Intends to Attack Iran before term ends

I hope so, but I am not holding my breath.

647 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:01:07am
648 doriangrey  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:02:13am

Well the time has come for this Lizard to skiddidle off to work...

649 draeknet  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:02:54am

GO LGF - that is all I got to say about that.

650 chief long name  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:02:55am

re: #635 realwest

I'm fine and rubbin' the sleep out of my eyes.
How are you and MOM doin'?

BTW is anyone here tuned into Fox & Friends?

651 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:03:26am

re: #641 The Albatross
Hey good morning back atcha! I suspect all the hamsters snuck out for a smoke break at the same time - realized once they were outside that there was no one left inside and, typical smokers, took a couple quick drags, then rushed back inside! LOL!

652 Nevergiveup  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:03:49am

re: #650 chief long name

I'm fine and rubbin' the sleep out of my eyes.
How are you and MOM doin'?

BTW is anyone here tuned into Fox & Friends?

On and Off. Why?

653 Lucius Septimius  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:04:06am

re: #637 realwest

and
re: #634 Lucius Septimius
Ah, it's nice to know that it wasn't my TimeWarner Cable for a change! LOL!

How are each of you guys doing today?

OK -- not great, but OK. I'll write you later; I have lots of homeschooling to do today. We're starting mollusks in science, which will call for a field trip to the farmer's market later this week to get some bivalves to dissect. Later I have to interview a job candidate who I'm praying will work out.

654 galloping granny  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:04:22am

re: #650 chief long name

I'm fine and rubbin' the sleep out of my eyes.
How are you and MOM doin'?

BTW is anyone here tuned into Fox & Friends?

Yup. Why?

655 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:05:58am

re: #642 LeftJustAintRight YEA! The JP is now saying what I've been saying for some time; I believe the week after the November elections, no matter who wins, Bush is gonna go after Iran through the use of Airpower (including Tomahawk and other cruise-missles with a variety of non-nuclear warheads).
And he'd legally be within his rights to do that, too!

656 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:06:38am

Oh Yeah, the hamsters be back - I'm back to my usual huffin' and puffin' to catch up!

657 paxnhymn  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:06:40am

re: #650 chief long name

I'm fine and rubbin' the sleep out of my eyes.
How are you and MOM doin'?

BTW is anyone here tuned into Fox & Friends?

I watched it earlier where Doocey was giving Oberman the "what-for" for dissing his son's questions to McCain. It's hard to tell because Doocey is so goofy, but I think he was really pissed!

658 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:07:37am

re: #644 doriangrey Well I can sure understand you're loving the commute but what time do you usually arrive for work?

659 chief long name  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:07:47am

re: #652 Nevergiveup

re: #654 galloping granny

Don't have e-mail here @ home.
Could one of you send this to Doocy?
[Link: nymag.com...]
Thanx

660 galloping granny  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:07:58am

re: #657 paxnhymn

I watched it earlier where Doocey was giving Oberman the "what-for" for dissing his son's questions to McCain. It's hard to tell because Doocey is so goofy, but I think he was really pissed!

He did seem really pissed. However, he kept referring to his son, who is a junior in college, as a "kid." Sorry, he stopped being a kid a few years back Steve. Get over it.

661 Nevergiveup  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:09:09am

re: #657 paxnhymn

I watched it earlier where Doocey was giving Oberman the "what-for" for dissing his son's questions to McCain. It's hard to tell because Doocey is so goofy, but I think he was really pissed!

I think I'd take Doocey in a fight over Olberman. Olberman definetly looks like he has got a glass chin.

662 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:09:18am

re: #650 chief long name
Well we're doing ok, sorta. Mom is (if she isn't napping just yet) watching Fox and Friends - if that's the name of the early morning Fox show - I was halfway listening to it while eating breakfast myself - why do you ask?

663 paxnhymn  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:10:56am

re: #660 galloping granny

He did seem really pissed. However, he kept referring to his son, who is a junior in college, as a "kid." Sorry, he stopped being a kid a few years back Steve. Get over it.


my feelings exactly. Old enough to vote- old enough to eneter the fray! Besides, the kid wouldn't have gotten near the flack had he not beem a media darlings kid! What'd Doocey expect?! He's actin' kinda whiney like...hussein?

:-D

664 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:11:20am

re: #653 Lucius Septimius Huh. Shopping for clams is part of homeschooling?! I look forward to hearing from you my friend!

665 The Albatross  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:11:41am

For the record and in the interest of full disclosure, I miss Babba and after some thought decided to visit her site and post. I hope that I can be a lizard and Babba's friend too and that this will be respected. I enjoy my membership here and would like to think I can also post on her blog too without any controversy. Much of what I post is inconsequential anyways. So I'm putting it out here, to preempt the illusion of questionable alliances later. Charles, I hope you're cool with that... I very much admire what you do here and decided against using another nic because I feel it could just snap me in the ass later on.

666 chief long name  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:11:46am

re: #657 paxnhymn

Yes he was and that article mentions something I heard that dirtbag Olberman say about being beat up by girls as a boy.
He's still a priss!

667 yochanan  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:12:27am

QUESTION how did the term 'LIZARD' start?

this lizard wants to know

668 Nevergiveup  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:13:39am

re: #667 yochanan

QUESTION how did the term 'LIZARD' start?

this lizard wants to know

I think because the word " PATRIOTS" was taken?

669 paxnhymn  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:14:04am

re: #661 Nevergiveup

I think I'd take Doocey in a fight over Olberman. Olberman definetly looks like he has got a glass chin.

I dunno. Those morning folks are starting to get on my damn nerves with their goofiness. I miss the days of The Huntley / Brinkley hour...(sigh)..just the facts , mam. Of course, Mrs. Pax says I dress like a throwback from Apollo's misson control too...maybe I'm a dinosaur at 50...

670 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:14:50am
671 Nevergiveup  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:15:42am

re: #669 paxnhymn

I dunno. Those morning folks are starting to get on my damn nerves with their goofiness. I miss the days of The Huntley / Brinkley hour...(sigh)..just the facts , mam. Of course, Mrs. Pax says I dress like a throwback from Apollo's misson control too...maybe I'm a dinosaur at 50...

My wife a 2 daughters laugh at the way I dress also.

672 Mike in Boulder  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:16:05am

NPR has lost its mind. Last night's broadcast from China on All Things Considered was discussing the beginning of the 3-day mourning period for the victims of the earthquake.

To paraphase Melissa Bloch:

May 12, 5/12, is now China's 9/11.

Here is the link and you only need to the first 20 seconds to hear this.

Don't get me wrong the earthquake was and continues to be a horrible tragedy but to link the two in any way is beyond misguided.

673 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:16:33am

re: #665 The Albatross
"I enjoy my membership here and would like to think I can also post on her blog too without any controversy." Well why shouldn't you be able to post at both sites? Babba wasn't banned here, I think she's just devoting her time and energy to her somewhat neglected blog. Hell I post here and there and at Jammie's and sometimes at lawhawks and I certainly go to zombietime.
Course I would never go to another blog and be disrespetful towards Charles there and then come back over here and play nice with him. I like and respect Charles a lot and feel the same way with Babba Zee. I don't see what the problem is; BZ's blog isn't GCP or anything like that, ya know?

674 lawhawk  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:16:47am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. An Iraqi translator was sentenced to 11 years for stealing classified documents that compromised operational security of the military mission in Iraq. He complained that he got a harsher treatment because he was Iraqi.

I'd argue that he got off easy compared to what he could have gotten. However, he has a point if you recall another individual who stole classified documents - down his pants - Sandy Berger.

675 galloping granny  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:17:19am

re: #663 paxnhymn

my feelings exactly. Old enough to vote- old enough to eneter the fray! Besides, the kid wouldn't have gotten near the flack had he not beem a media darlings kid! What'd Doocey expect?! He's actin' kinda whiney like...hussein?

:-D

I have to agree. Steve's kid did not impress me at ALL. He seemed like a smart ass and full of himself. But good, bad or indifferent, the kid is long since old enough to vote, old enough to serve in the military and I suspect old enough to drink, since he is a college junior. NOT a kid.

I mostly like Steve Doucey, but on this he is highly symptomatic of one of the biggest problems with the younger generation today. Their parents refuse to allow them to take any personal responsibility for anything, including their own words.

676 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:17:43am

re: #667 yochanan Isn't it in the LGF Dictionary (too lazy to go look myself!)?

677 Nevergiveup  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:19:38am

re: #672 Mike in Boulder

NPR has lost its mind. Last night's broadcast from China on All Things Considered was discussing the beginning of the 3-day mourning period for the victims of the earthquake.

To paraphase Melissa Bloch:

Here is the link and you only need to the first 20 seconds to hear this.

Don't get me wrong the earthquake was and continues to be a horrible tragedy but to link the two in any way is beyond misguided.

The left does anything in it's power to water down the significants of not only 9/11 but also the entire war on Terror and Radical Islam and Jihadists ( up yours State Department!) .

678 paxnhymn  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:19:41am

re: #671 Nevergiveup

My wife a 2 daughters laugh at the way I dress also.


Hell, I LIKE white undershirts (I always wear an undershirt) and flat tops. There's nothing wrong with preffering a button down over a pullover, I like my square framed tortoise shell glasses, and those "mailman" looking shoes happen to be very damn comfortable. So to the world I say, "Thow me in a museum...I don't care! I love me just fine!"

:-D

679 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:20:14am

re: #674 lawhawk Hey morning hawk! Yep, Sandy Burglar got off SOOO light I still can't beleive it. Can you imagine the sentenancing for either you or me if one of us went into the National Archives and tried to steal ORIGNIAL documents?

680 galloping granny  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:20:26am

re: #672 Mike in Boulder

NPR has lost its mind. Last night's broadcast from China on All Things Considered was discussing the beginning of the 3-day mourning period for the victims of the earthquake.

To paraphase Melissa Bloch:

Here is the link and you only need to the first 20 seconds to hear this.

Don't get me wrong the earthquake was and continues to be a horrible tragedy but to link the two in any way is beyond misguided.



What absolute BULL!
I would half-buy that it is China's New Orleans, but even that is not true at all. China has a 3000 year history of horrible disasters, including mass famines where millions starved to death at least a couple of times a century. At least one within my life time.

681 OldLineTexan  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:20:54am

re: #674 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. An Iraqi translator was sentenced to 11 years for stealing classified documents that compromised operational security of the military mission in Iraq. He complained that he got a harsher treatment because he was Iraqi.

I'd argue that he got off easy compared to what he could have gotten. However, he has a point if you recall another individual who stole classified documents - down his pants - Sandy Berger.

Point well taken, until one recognizes the fact that the justice system is contaminated, like it or not, by what you know and who you know.

Berger has both going for him. Mr. Small-Fry document thief, not so much.

682 OldLineTexan  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:22:15am

re: #680 galloping granny


What absolute BULL!
I would half-buy that it is China's New Orleans, but even that is not true at all. China has a 3000 year history of horrible disasters, including mass famines where millions starved to death at least a couple of times a century. At least one within my life time.

Absolutely correct, and also the reason I ate my carrots. ;)

683 The Albatross  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:22:19am

re: #673 realwest

Thanks Realwest. I haven't been around as long as some... but felt like I had to put it out there because I value my membership here.

684 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:22:36am

re: #677 Nevergiveup
Absolutely Spot On comment. I feel badly for the people of China - not so much it's government - but there is just no comparision with 9/11 which was a deliberate murdering of masses of people by other people (well, sorta people) not an natural disaster.

685 wahabicorridor  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:22:36am

re: #665 The Albatross

For the record and in the interest of full disclosure, I miss Babba and after some thought decided to visit her site and post. I hope that I can be a lizard and Babba's friend too and that this will be respected. I enjoy my membership here and would like to think I can also post on her blog too without any controversy. Much of what I post is inconsequential anyways. So I'm putting it out here, to preempt the illusion of questionable alliances later. Charles, I hope you're cool with that... I very much admire what you do here and decided against using another nic because I feel it could just snap me in the ass later on.

WHAT?! You miss Babba? WTF happened to Babba?

morning all. In the "The UK Is Still Lost and the EU Is Still a Totaliarian Piece of Shit" dept:

Home Office plans to create 'Big brother' database for phones calls, emails and web use

The Home Office will create a database to store the details of every phone call made, every email sent and every web page visited by British citizens in the previous year under plans currently under discussion, it has emerged.
The Government wants to create the system to fight terrorism and crime. The police and security services believe it will make it easier to access important data as communications become more complex.

Telecoms firms and internet service providers (ISPs) have already been approached by the Home Office, which would be given customer records if the plans were realised.

The security services and police would then be able to access records for any individual over the previous 12 months by gaining permission through the courts.

Good luck storing that crap, suckers, let alone accessing it in any timely manner.

686 The Albatross  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:27:19am

She's still a member, just not posting lately... and enjoyed drinking my morning coffee and going through her links. She's been busy on her own site.

687 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:28:07am

re: #683 The Albatross Well I've been around LGF since before registration, and it's my observation that most of all the bannings Charles has done you could see coming (maybe all of 'em, I wasn't around for some of them) - you don't go into Charles' house, shit on his rug and expect to get hugs and kisses from Charles. He has been an amazingly tolerant guy given some of the provocation he's endured.
But if you diss Charles at BZ's or anyplace else, don't be surprised to find your ass banned here. You CAN disagree with Charles, as long as you don't insult him, call him names or make personal attacks on him - at least that's been my observaton.

688 Endangered in MASS  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:29:47am

re: #673 realwest

Morning Realwest. Well said.

689 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:30:12am

re: #685 wahabicorridor
Good morning wahabi! Nothing happened to Babba - she's just trying to get her blog underway again - and I might say with pretty good results, too- but she hasn't been banned or anything like that.
How are you doing?

690 Ward Cleaver  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:30:47am

re: #686 The Albatross

She's still a member, just not posting lately... and enjoyed drinking my morning coffee and going through her links. She's been busy on her own site.

She's taken breaks from LGF before.

691 The Albatross  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:31:05am

re: #687 realwest

No worries there Realwest.

692 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:32:32am

re: #688 Endangered in MASS Good morning and thank you! It's really nice to start my day with a compliment! LOL!
How are y'all doing today?

693 paxnhymn  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:32:49am

re: #690 Ward Cleaver

She's taken breaks from LGF before.

and then of course she does have health concerns, and used to say she tires easily at times...

{Babba}

No I'm not huggin' you Ward!

(fist bumps Ward)

694 formercorpsman  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:33:01am

re: #686 The Albatross

I have been a little busier as of late, and have had less time here.

It is obvious we have had some conflagrations lately, and folks go.

It almost threw me for a loop thinking Bab got herself banned.

I hate being busy.

695 Roger  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:33:16am

Who's yer candidate?

696 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:33:35am

re: #690 Ward Cleaver
Hey Ward! How are things in the Cleaver household today? Well I hope!

697 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:33:39am
698 lawhawk  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:35:06am

re: #679 realwest

Hey morning hawk! Yep, Sandy Burglar got off SOOO light I still can't beleive it. Can you imagine the sentenancing for either you or me if one of us went into the National Archives and tried to steal ORIGNIAL documents?

You'd never hear from us again. We'd be like the mythical ark shuffled off into a warehouse somewhere. Catalogued, but never to see the light of day.

699 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:35:57am
700 paxnhymn  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:35:57am

re: #697 savage_nation

Fargo ND is boring

"If God would'a meant people to live in the snow, he'd'a put fur on our asses"

(Pax' late father..God bless him.)

701 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:36:31am

re: #694 formercorpsman Good morning my friend!
Uh, why do you hate being busy? Cause it takes away from your LGF time?
Back in the day when I could work to support myself, I LOVED being busy - mind you I'd bitch and moan about it - but when you're self-employed (more or less) more work = more money; less work = more anxiety about where the work is!

702 Shug  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:37:36am

Koran shooting is just getting waaay over the top

1.Bush apologizes to Iraqi PM over Koran shooting
Did he apologize to the Koran itself?
2."We need to try this soldier since he committed a grievous crime

oh brother

703 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:37:45am
704 Endangered in MASS  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:38:03am

re: #692 realwest

I am well thank you. Nice story for Sox left Jon Lester. Pitched a no no last night a year a half removed from cancer diagnosis. There is hope.Praise god.

705 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:38:15am

re: #697 savage_nation
Good morning Savage! What, the hometown of Bobby Vee is boring? (and please don't tell me you never heard of Bobby Vee; it's too early for me to be reminded of my age!). How long are you gonna be stuck there?

706 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:38:58am
707 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:39:25am
708 yesandno  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:39:33am

"Your Pilikia is all pau"

How did you know?

709 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:39:56am

re: #698 lawhawk "We'd be like the mythical ark shuffled off into a warehouse somewhere. Catalogued, but never to see the light of day."
Whoa, you sure know how to turn a phrase! But you are, of course, totally correct - no moonlight candle vigilis for either of us I'm afraid!

710 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:40:16am
711 wahabicorridor  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:40:16am

re: #689 realwest

morning real! Yeah, I just got email from her. We're good. It's raining again! We put the ark in storage - will have to haul it out again.

I owe you an email, I know. Today is going to be gentle and slow, I think - finally, so I should be able to get to it.

712 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:41:51am
713 Endangered in MASS  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:43:44am

re: #705 realwest

Real,

Here ya go...

He had quite a few hits. Slick as shit production with tin pan alley hitmakers. A winning combo pre-BeachBoys and Beatles.

714 galloping granny  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:43:48am

re: #706 savage_nation

Just like I said, they are gonna have a public execution of that soldier. Nothing else will suffice for the Islamist

Yup, I am afraid you are right on this one savage. How fast can we spell s-c-a-p-e-g-o-a-t.

I have to tell you, as much as I admire and support the military and hate what the lefties say, I would be hard put to serve in today's military. As they have amply demonstrated with the Haditha Marines and many others, you might just get thrown to the wolves by the home team.

715 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:44:21am
716 Endangered in MASS  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:46:08am

re: #712 savage_nation

Mr Lonely...Bobby Vinton indeed...

717 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:46:46am

re: #707 savage_nation
Yeah him. But when he took over for Buddy Holly on that tour (after Buddy Holly died in that plane crash) iirc he was maybe 17 and was more than just good as a fill in!

718 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:47:37am
719 Endangered in MASS  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:47:42am

re: #715 taxfreekiller

That is good news.

720 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:48:15am

re: #711 wahabicorridor
Hey I'm sorry it's crappy weather up by you (promises to be rainy, t-stormy here, too) but I'd love to hear from you!

721 formercorpsman  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:48:44am

re: #701 realwest

Yeah, it's like being out of the loop.

The busy, tongue in cheek.

I realize, in order to make the money, you gotta be busy.

722 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:48:46am

Morning Lizards!

Sorry I'm late to the debate, but after reading the YouTube/Google thread in which they tell Senator Leibermann to pound sand, I have to ask Charles a question. Why keep posting YouTube videos of cool musicians? Why support these terrorist enablers at YouTube if you don't have to? I've had YouTube blocked since the year began & l don't miss it one bit.

723 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:49:00am
724 OldLineTexan  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:49:16am

re: #714 galloping granny

Yup, I am afraid you are right on this one savage. How fast can we spell s-c-a-p-e-g-o-a-t.

I have to tell you, as much as I admire and support the military and hate what the lefties say, I would be hard put to serve in today's military. As they have amply demonstrated with the Haditha Marines and many others, you might just get thrown to the wolves by the home team.

Same for the Border Patrol. It's disgusting.

Mr. Koran Shooter should be busted a couple ranks and that is all. My reason: You are apparently too impulsive to be a sniper, go back and work on thinking your actions through.

If anything more happens to him, I am going to buy a case of Korans (in Arabic, so they are real) and shoot a hole through each and every one. Just to be fair, I will shoot an equal pile of Bibles. Then I will glue them to a big old piece of plywood and call it art.

725 Endangered in MASS  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:49:46am

re: #718 savage_nation


He must have fit the suit.

My favorite Bobby Vinton..


726 Alouette  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:50:28am

Italians bulldoze mosque, build memorial to Oriana Fallaci.
My Italian's kinda rusty, but here's a rough translation:

Goodbye, mosque! In its place, Oriana Fallaci Plaza. This was the decision of the city coundil of Oppeano (Verona) where yesterday, a bulldozer razed a building used by Muslims for prayer, where the Council intends to build a plaza named after the author of "The Rage and the Pride," which inspired a bitter confrontation with Islam. The decision to raze the structure, opened by the organization "For the Success of Muslims," was made by the municipal administration which acquired the land for 70 million Euros with the objective of transforming it into an open space for parking and a green zone. "Many citizens were not in favor of this project," said Alessandro Montagnoli, deputy mayor of Lega Nord, "because it might create conflicts among the residents."

727 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:51:10am
728 Lively  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:51:25am

re: #722 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

...because I can listen to music I'd otherwise have to pay for?

/ducks

729 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:51:53am
730 haakondahl  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:52:20am

re: #724 OldLineTexan

Same for the Border Patrol. It's disgusting.

Mr. Koran Shooter should be busted a couple ranks and that is all. My reason: You are apparently too impulsive to be a sniper, go back and work on thinking your actions through.

If anything more happens to him, I am going to buy a case of Korans (in Arabic, so they are real) and shoot a hole through each and every one. Just to be fair, I will shoot an equal pile of Bibles. Then I will glue them to a big old piece of plywood and call it art.

You'd better play it safe and just shoot the Bibles. If you shoot Korans, the Museum Directors will seethe and the National Endowment for the Arts will cut off your funding.

731 galloping granny  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:52:37am

re: #724 OldLineTexan

Same for the Border Patrol. It's disgusting.

Mr. Koran Shooter should be busted a couple ranks and that is all. My reason: You are apparently too impulsive to be a sniper, go back and work on thinking your actions through.

If anything more happens to him, I am going to buy a case of Korans (in Arabic, so they are real) and shoot a hole through each and every one. Just to be fair, I will shoot an equal pile of Bibles. Then I will glue them to a big old piece of plywood and call it art.

One of the things that really bothers me about this is that there does not seem to be ANY proof that a member of the US military did this. All anyone has said is that the koran was found on the shooting range. It could just as easily been one of the Iraqis with access to that range who left it there.

To the best of my knowlege, I have not seen even one incident like this anywhere in the Mideast that has turned out to be true. And there are at least a couple of incidents of korans being deliberately burned for the propaganda value.

732 The Albatross  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:52:50am

Did anybody else vomit burp when Reid endorsed Obama? I hope all the jack asses struggling for relevance will dog pile Barry and we walk away with the election.

733 Lively  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:53:29am

re: #726 Alouette

That is incredible news. I had to scroll over your link to make sure it wasn't the onion, lol. I wonder what the muslim reaction will be to that. Will we have to apologize to the Koran again?

734 galloping granny  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:53:40am

re: #726 Alouette

Italians bulldoze mosque, build memorial to Oriana Fallaci.
My Italian's kinda rusty, but here's a rough translation:

Goodbye, mosque! In its place, Oriana Fallaci Plaza. This was the decision of the city coundil of Oppeano (Verona) where yesterday, a bulldozer razed a building used by Muslims for prayer, where the Council intends to build a plaza named after the author of "The Rage and the Pride," which inspired a bitter confrontation with Islam. The decision to raze the structure, opened by the organization "For the Success of Muslims," was made by the municipal administration which acquired the land for 70 million Euros with the objective of transforming it into an open space for parking and a green zone. "Many citizens were not in favor of this project," said Alessandro Montagnoli, deputy mayor of Lega Nord, "because it might create conflicts among the residents."

Good for the Italians!

735 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:53:55am
736 OldLineTexan  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:54:17am

re: #727 savage_nation

The sniper did a dumb thing. He earned a reasonable punishment.

However, there's no reason to bend over and kiss anyone's ass over it, especially the usual suspects.

I am weary of apologies.

To all involved, grow up and grow a pair.

737 Nevergiveup  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:54:47am

Pompano Beach Florida- on FOX- a car played chicken with a train today. Guess which one lost?

738 paxnhymn  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:54:55am

re: #727 savage_nation

When I hear of shit like this, I'd like to withdraw our troops from Iraq also. Let these ungrateful pigs eat themselves alive. Boo fucking hoo, to Hell with all of them.


no matter. It'll happen whenever we decide to leave. These folks have been eatin' their own for a thousand years, and it's not gonna change any time soon...

739 OldLineTexan  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:55:04am

re: #730 haakondahl

You'd better play it safe and just shoot the Bibles. If you shoot Korans, the Museum Directors will seethe and the National Endowment for the Arts will cut off your funding.

I am an equal opportunity offender, and I refuse to be Van Goghed.

740 wahabicorridor  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:55:46am

re: #726 Alouette

WOW!

741 haakondahl  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:55:58am

Goog-Trans-O-Matic:

Piazza Oriana Fallaci instead of mosque

Republic - May 18, 2008 page 4 section: CHRONICLE
VERONA - Goodbye mosque. In its place, square Oriana Fallaci. is the decision of the Government of Oppeano (Verona), where yesterday morning bulldozers have demolished a building used by Muslims of the area as a place of prayer, instead of which the municipality will carry out a square entitled to its writer, with "anger and pride ', Had promoted a very bitter campaign against' Islam. The decision to shave the soil structure, initiated by the Foundation "For the success of Muslims", was taken by 'city administration who had bought the' area by 70 thousand euros in order to transform it into an open space for parking and green areas . "My people did not want that there was this settlement - said the mayor Alessandro Montagnoli, neodeputato the Northern League - especially because it could create problems of viability and coexistence with residents.

742 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:55:58am
743 OldLineTexan  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:56:09am

re: #733 Lively

That is incredible news. I had to scroll over your link to make sure it wasn't the onion, lol. I wonder what the muslim reaction will be to that. Will we have to apologize to the Koran again?

I will be happy to apologize, about twenty minutes after my second cup of tea...

744 formercorpsman  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:56:31am

re: #726 Alouette

Wow, if this is correct, I would ding you up a million.

Sadly, you only got one.

745 republic  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:56:56am

Can somebody help me out, please.

When I come to LGF and try to click on anything here, I get a ""Script Error" box that locks up my computer, and no matter how many times I click "Yes" to continue to run scripts, nothing changes, then, after many minutes, it redirects me to the main page, even after I've logged in.

The wierd thing is, it only happens at LGF.

WTH?

746 galloping granny  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:57:31am

re: #736 OldLineTexan

The sniper did a dumb thing. He earned a reasonable punishment.

However, there's no reason to bend over and kiss anyone's ass over it, especially the usual suspects.

I am weary of apologies.

To all involved, grow up and grow a pair.

Absolutely. There is not a single line in the US Constitution prohibiting the shooting, tearing, burning or using for toilet paper ANY book. Just as much protected speech as burning the American flag is. The Uniform Code is a little different than civilian law, but still has to conform to the Constitution. There are no grounds at all to haul the kid up on charges on.

And since he has already been punished - which would have required at least a hearing - then any further hauling into "court" is double jeopardy. Specifically prohibited.

747 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:57:52am

re: #716 Endangered in MASS Huh, Bobby Vee did a cover of this, but I couldn't find it anywhere: [Link: www.imeem.com...]

BTW - this was recorded when Buddy was I think, 20 or 21 years old; early Rock - can anyone here tell me what the "background" instrument is?!

748 LeftJustAintRight  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:58:09am

re: #745 republic
Blame global warming
Then cuss bill gates

749 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:58:12am
750 OldLineTexan  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:58:32am

re: #731 galloping granny

Granny, if this is true then I am even more upset.

Is there a picture of the alleged "victim"?

Was it in any language other than Arabic? Because if it was, it's not really a Koran, according to the several Muslims I know.

751 DesertSage  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:58:42am

Frances?

752 OldLineTexan  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:59:25am

re: #751 DesertSage

Frances?

He never has lightened up.

753 ggt  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:59:48am

Good Morning Lizards! It's gray and coolish in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland this morning.

How are you-all and what are we talking about?

754 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:59:52am
755 sparrowlake  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:00:11am

re: #690 Ward Cleaver

She's taken breaks from LGF before.


Hey Ward, I heard something disturbing - your neighbours have been talking about the Cleavers lately. They say that since you've been on line so much June has been feeling lonely, and it has gotten so bad that the other day when Eddie complimented June on how pretty her dress was, June encouraged him to go on.
Just thought you should know.

756 galloping granny  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:00:27am

re: #745 republic

Can somebody help me out, please.

When I come to LGF and try to click on anything here, I get a ""Script Error" box that locks up my computer, and no matter how many times I click "Yes" to continue to run scripts, nothing changes, then, after many minutes, it redirects me to the main page, even after I've logged in.

The wierd thing is, it only happens at LGF.

WTH?

It seems to be an incompatibility between the scripts that Charles is using and the latest update of Firefox, at least as far as I can tell. Answer cancel to the "continue to run scripts" question.

757 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:00:31am
758 The Albatross  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:00:33am

Woot?!? *Blink, blink* Somebody hit this guy with a clue bat.

Change sky's colour, proposes Flannery

759 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:00:41am

re: #722 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Good morning, well maybe because Charles can seperate the music from the musician's politics? Just a guess, but it's what I do all the time.

760 Shug  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:01:07am

re: #706 savage_nation

Just like I said, they are gonna have a public execution of that soldier. Nothing else will suffice for the Islamist


Not good enough for them. after all, a book was humiliated.

a holy koran was made holey.

I am not excusing stupidity as in shooting up a Koran in a country full of hypersensitive people and media scum who will exploit it.

but for crying out loud, the president personally groveling over this: Absurd!

761 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:01:46am
762 Lucius Septimius  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:01:51am

re: #759 realwest

Good morning, well maybe because Charles can seperate the music from the musician's politics? Just a guess, but it's what I do all the time.

If you didn't, there wouldn't be much to listen to.

763 sparrowlake  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:02:11am

re: #726 Alouette

Italians bulldoze mosque, build memorial to Oriana Fallaci.
My Italian's kinda rusty, but here's a rough translation:

Goodbye, mosque! In its place, Oriana Fallaci Plaza. This was the decision of the city coundil of Oppeano (Verona) where yesterday, a bulldozer razed a building used by Muslims for prayer, where the Council intends to build a plaza named after the author of "The Rage and the Pride," which inspired a bitter confrontation with Islam. The decision to raze the structure, opened by the organization "For the Success of Muslims," was made by the municipal administration which acquired the land for 70 million Euros with the objective of transforming it into an open space for parking and a green zone. "Many citizens were not in favor of this project," said Alessandro Montagnoli, deputy mayor of Lega Nord, "because it might create conflicts among the residents."

Bravo. Long live the cherished memory of Oriana Fallaci.

764 formercorpsman  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:02:34am

re: #731 galloping granny

Truly, the slap in the face for the rest of the civilized world in all of this, is the outrage of book being used as target practice.

Parse this with the desecration of age old antiquities pre-dating islam, such as in Afghanistan, Israel, and Northern Africa.

I think the world is on a collision course.

765 DesertSage  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:02:38am

re: #758 The Albatross

Woot?!? *Blink, blink* Somebody hit this guy with a clue bat.

Change sky's colour, proposes Flannery

Professor Flannery says climate change is happening so quickly that mankind may need to pump sulphur into the atmosphere to survive.

Science!

766 Endangered in MASS  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:02:43am

re: #729 savage_nation

That's a close second with Mr. Lonely.

767 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:02:45am
768 ggt  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:03:15am

re: #734 galloping granny

Just more proof that there is a G-d and he loves us.

769 LeftJustAintRight  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:03:20am

Lucius
Did you apply for the job ?
LOL

770 Nevergiveup  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:03:47am

re: #759 realwest

Good morning, well maybe because Charles can seperate the music from the musician's politics? Just a guess, but it's what I do all the time.

Personally, I find it extremely difficult to separate an Actors, Musicians, or even friends/family political leanings ( particularly if they are totally unsupported by any rational thought or facts) from my dealings with said person.

771 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:04:11am

re: #759 realwest

Good morning, well maybe because Charles can seperate the music from
the musician's politics? Just a guess, but it's what I do all the time.


I'm not talking about the musicians, but about YouTube. I can (usually) separate a musician from his/her politics, but why keep linking to YouTube, a monopoly that explicitly refuses to take down jihadi videos, but will take down anti-islamist videos & do other evils.

772 haakondahl  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:04:16am

re: #746 galloping granny

Absolutely. There is not a single line in the US Constitution prohibiting the shooting, tearing, burning or using for toilet paper ANY book. Just as much protected speech as burning the American flag is. The Uniform Code is a little different than civilian law, but still has to conform to the Constitution. There are no grounds at all to haul the kid up on charges on.

And since he has already been punished - which would have required at least a hearing - then any further hauling into "court" is double jeopardy. Specifically prohibited.

Servicemen cannot burn a flag, speak freely, or tear toilet paper if it runs counter to lawful orders they have been issued. Even a blanket order such as "Don't do anything blatantly stupid which a reasonable Soldier knows will just piss off the locals!" would be enough to put this guy in dutch.

So I actually support some NJP for the guy IF he has violated an order of that sort. But there is just no call for this to go the Judicial route (court-martial).

The Army should cast Ehren Watada from its eye before trifling with a mote like this Soldier who shot a Koran.

773 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:04:30am

re: #745 republic Hmm, have you tried refreshing the page the first thing after LGF comes up on your screen? I used to get that damn script warning too and that got rid of it for me.
That or try re-booting (total extent of realwest's tech knowledege!).

774 haakondahl  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:04:43am

re: #747 realwest

Huh, Bobby Vee did a cover of this, but I couldn't find it anywhere: [Link: www.imeem.com...]

BTW - this was recorded when Buddy was I think, 20 or 21 years old; early Rock - can anyone here tell me what the "background" instrument is?!

Not without logging in. Screw it.

775 Iron Fist[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:05:17am
776 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:05:27am

re: #751 DesertSage HEY Sage! How are you today my friend?

777 incanus  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:05:31am

It's been posted, but here it is again (this is BIG!)

KSTP news crew assaulted at Muslim charter school

778 ggt  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:05:33am

re: #761 savage_nation

Wasn't this covered in one of the Highlander movies?

779 OldLineTexan  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:06:12am

re: #767 savage_nation

It's actually a very nice ranch, despite Camp Sheehag.

I will miss the original GW; this imposter I have no use for.

However, seeing what's lined up to take his place, maybe I should just start missing him now.

780 galloping granny  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:06:14am

re: #750 OldLineTexan

Granny, if this is true then I am even more upset.

Is there a picture of the alleged "victim"?

Was it in any language other than Arabic? Because if it was, it's not really a Koran, according to the several Muslims I know.

If you look through the links posted yesterday about this, one of them had a link to the story on al-arabiyeh I think it was. They had pictures. though I really should say picture, since it was just one small picture with 4 or 5 thumbnails that one could not even blow up to examine closely. Matter of fact, if you look through my comments from yesterday, I remarked on that.

What I did see was this - appears to be in Arabic BUT - the holes are very small and very neat. Not at all what you would expect from the hardware our military carries. Might be a pistol, but only officers and the Duty Officer carry pistols. Also, there were two pictures showing the "bullet holes" but the holes on one page did not seem to me to line up with the holes on the other page. No cover was shown, so they book really could have been almost anything in Arabic.

781 ggt  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:06:25am

re: #759 realwest

hey rw! how you doin'?

782 DesertSage  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:06:49am

re: #776 realwest

HEY Sage! How are you today my friend?

Things are good.
I'm still looking for Frances.

Science!

783 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:06:58am

re: #762 Lucius Septimius I'm afraid that's the truth right there.
Dunno why, but it does seem that way.

784 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:07:41am

Ex-Army chaplain cleared in Gitmo spy case is Obama delegate


OLYMPIA, Wash. (AP) — A former Army chaplain at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, who was cleared of spy accusations will be a delegate to the Democratic National Convention.

Former Capt. James J. Yee, a Muslim, was among the delegates pledged to Sen. Barack Obama who were elected by precinct representatives Saturday. He's representing the state's 9th Congressional District at the party's convention in Denver in August.

785 sparrowlake  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:07:55am

re: #770 Nevergiveup

Personally, I find it extremely difficult to separate an Actors, Musicians, or even friends/family political leanings ( particularly if they are totally unsupported by any rational thought or facts) from my dealings with said person.

I guess you don't see many movies or listen to much music.
Most great artists are borderline crazy - it's right in the job description.

786 galloping granny  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:08:09am

re: #764 formercorpsman

Truly, the slap in the face for the rest of the civilized world in all of this, is the outrage of book being used as target practice.

Parse this with the desecration of age old antiquities pre-dating islam, such as in Afghanistan, Israel, and Northern Africa.

I think the world is on a collision course.

I don't think there is the least bit of doubt about that.

787 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:08:24am

Good morning. Regarding the B-27 Koran Economy Target thingy: White House says that Bush expressed "concern" over incident, but did not apologize.

#706 savage:

Just like I said, they are gonna have a public execution of that soldier.

Don't be ridiculous. It will be a cold day in Hell before President Bush would allow that to happen.

788 ggt  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:08:44am

re: #770 Nevergiveup

Me too! I won't donate one dollar to the incomes of certain celebrities: Johnny Depp, John Travolta, Michael Moore, Barbara Streisand . . .

789 The Albatross  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:08:48am

My brain froze up after reading my last posted article... I think I will go paint and ponder the idea of changing the color of the sky. What a sad day if that were ever to be. Later Lizards... have a great day.

790 haakondahl  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:09:00am

re: #784 NJDhockeyfan

OLYMPIA, Wash. (AP) — A former Army chaplain at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, who was cleared of spy accusations will be a delegate to the Democratic National Convention.

Ah-HA! He was spying for the DEMOCRATS!

791 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:09:07am
792 Lucius Septimius  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:09:23am

re: #769 LeftJustAintRight

Lucius
Did you apply for the job ?
LOL

Trust me -- I'd think about it, but I think they want someone in a different field. Plus I don't like the idea of being that far away from the water.

793 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:09:27am

re: #766 Endangered in MASS Hey don't you want to at least GUESS at the answer to my #747 ?

794 Endangered in MASS  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:09:52am

re: #747 realwest


zylephone?

795 LeftJustAintRight  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:10:22am

re: #792 Lucius Septimius

I saw that and thougt of you
Charles would be good too

796 OldLineTexan  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:10:44am

re: #780 galloping granny

Thanks, I missed all that.

The holes could be very neat using US weaponry. It depends on the range. I would assume standard military "ball" may have been used, which has a full metal jacket. I own rifles in 5.56 NATO (.223 Rem) and 7.62 x 51 (.308 Win) which approximate the standard combat and sniper rounds, and either would leave a nice round hole at 200 yards, maybe 300.

797 Widow'smight  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:11:13am

re: #755 sparrowlake

Hello there beautiful. Just so you know, I did 340 last night (without your help or anything).

Then I went home and watched parts of two Chick Flicks with the girls and the main Actor had a last name of Ruffalo. I was like, who named this guy, Scooby-Doo?

798 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:11:28am

re: #764 formercorpsman

Truly, the slap in the face for the rest of the civilized world in all of this, is the outrage of book being used as target practice.

Parse this with the desecration of age old antiquities pre-dating islam, such as in Afghanistan, Israel, and Northern Africa.

Huh? Nobody has claimed that this was some priceless, historic Koran.

799 jorline  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:11:38am

re: #726 Alouette

the objective of transforming it into an open space for parking and a green zone.

Call Al Gore...this all sounds Eco-friendly

800 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:11:48am
801 ggt  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:12:00am
802 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:12:01am

re: #770 Nevergiveup I'm sorry to hear that. Truly, I think you're missing some really good music because of that.Films, not so much cause there haven't been all that many good movies made in the last several years.

803 Nevergiveup  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:12:08am

re: #785 sparrowlake

I guess you don't see many movies or listen to much music.
Most great artists are borderline crazy - it's right in the job description.

I don't actually. If they don't wear their politics on their sleeves and/or make ludicrous statements, then I pretty much ignore it. But when they decide to use their fame to promote a left wing agenda, then I don't feel the urge to financially support them.

804 OldLineTexan  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:12:34am

re: #798 Occasional Reader

Huh? Nobody has claimed that this was some priceless, historic Koran.

Here, lemme help...I have a spare one somewhere...

/sarc

There ya go.

805 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:12:48am

re: #797 Widow'smight

Hello there beautiful. Just so you know, I did 340 last night (without your help or anything).


Then I went home and watched parts of two Chick Flicks with the girls
and the main Actor had a last name of Ruffalo. I was like, who named
this guy, Scooby-Doo?


Hey, a person can't help what their last name is. First names, however, are open for mocking all you want - the parents had a choice to name their child something normal.

806 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:13:25am
807 galloping granny  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:13:27am

re: #787 Occasional Reader

Good morning. Regarding the B-27 Koran Economy Target thingy: White House says that Bush expressed "concern" over incident, but did not apologize.

#706 savage:

Don't be ridiculous. It will be a cold day in Hell before President Bush would allow that to happen.

That is not what Reuters is reporting - titled Bush apologizes to Iraqi PM Over Koran Shooting

President George W. Bush has apologized to Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki and promised prosecution of a U.S. soldier accused of using a copy of the Koran for target practice, Iraq said on Tuesday.
ADVERTISEMENT

Bush apologized in a telephone call on Monday with Maliki, who told him the incident had humiliated and angered Iraq's largely Muslim population, the cabinet said in a statement.

"The American president apologized on behalf of the United States ... promising to present the soldier to the courts," it said.

808 Roger  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:13:43am

Thought so.

809 Endangered in MASS  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:14:15am

re: #801 ggt

Youse do'n't like my frea forme spelling. Facist.

I ment to hit spellcheck not post.

810 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:14:36am

re: #780 galloping granny

holes are very small and very neat. Not at all what you would expect from the hardware our military carries.

5.56mm hardball will punch very small, neat holes in paper.

811 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:14:48am

re: #774 haakondahlHuh? Imeems a FREE music site and probably has the biggest music library around.
Loggin' in doesn't cost anything, no "secret" info you have to give out or anything (though I suspect I'll get some spam from time to time because of it) but I'm serious; if Imeem doesn't have what you want to listen too, you're unlikely to find it anyplace else on the 'net!

812 yochanan  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:14:56am

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

This can't be posted too much, spot on OBAMA AND APEASEMENT

you know when you toss a rock in to a pack of kurs the one you hit yelps the loudest.

813 wahabicorridor  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:15:35am

re: #780 galloping granny

What I did see was this - appears to be in Arabic BUT - the holes are very small and very neat.

I saw that also and noticed the small bullet holes. As far as I know, sniper rifles are .50 cal. Having fired one of those once upon a time, I can tell you the hole left in that book would have been a hell of a lot larger (the book would not have stopped a .50 cal) - and why were there so many? Did the guy use a .22 just for practice?

814 ggt  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:16:19am

re: #809 Endangered in MASS

just trying to contribute ;)

815 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:16:20am

re: #781 ggt Hey good morning {ggt} I'm doing ok, thanks, how about yourself?

816 Iron Fist[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:16:32am
817 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:16:38am

re: #807 galloping granny

That is not what Reuters is reporting

Reuters is reporting what the Iraqi cabinet said that Bush said. CNN is reporting the White House's reaction to that report - "no, that's not what he said".

818 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:16:52am
819 ggt  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:17:34am

re: #815 realwest

Hangin' in there sans laptop, thanks for asking.

820 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:17:34am

re: #784 NJDhockeyfan
I'm absolutely SHOCKED at that news! LOL! But a good catch and post, thanks!

821 formercorpsman  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:17:51am

re: #798 Occasional Reader

Rhetorical musing.

It's a book.

The rest of the civilized world, complains in unison with those so offended by said actions about the book.

Tear down ancient sculptures, desecrate some of the most holy places in the world to Christianity, and consider just a fractional percent of what they have done to Jewish antiquity, but the civilized world is on eggshells because of a book.

Like I said, the world is on a collision course.

Because sooner or later, sane people (who used to be represented by a free press, clear thinking intelligentsia, and rationale academics) will be left to having defend themselves.

822 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:18:03am

re: #813 wahabicorridor

As far as I know, sniper rifles are .50 cal.

The Barrett is .50 cal, but that is not the typical sniper rifle. More typically they are .308. And I have not seen what weapon the shooter allegedly used for this "crime"; it was not necessarily a sniper rifle.

823 galloping granny  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:19:00am

re: #813 wahabicorridor

I saw that also and noticed the small bullet holes. As far as I know, sniper rifles are .50 cal. Having fired one of those once upon a time, I can tell you the hole left in that book would have been a hell of a lot larger (the book would not have stopped a .50 cal) - and why were there so many? Did the guy use a .22 just for practice?

The thing is, your ordinary enlisted person would not have routine access to anything other than standard military issue. An officer might and a non-com serving as Duty Officer would have a pistol, but some E3 out on the line does not. And usually ranges are supervised. I've never heard of anyone being allowed to just go out to some military range and fire away.

824 lobo91  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:19:49am

re: #746 galloping granny

And since he has already been punished - which would have required at least a hearing - then any further hauling into "court" is double jeopardy. Specifically prohibited.

Not true. The only "punishment" this Soldier has received, to my knowledge, is a transfer and a letter of reprimand. Neither was the result of an Article 15 or a court martial. Those are admininstrative actions.

The Constitution doesn't say you can't be "punished" more than once for the same act. It says you can't be tried more than once for the same crime. Big difference.

825 sparrowlake  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:20:12am

re: #803 Nevergiveup

I don't actually. If they don't wear their politics on their sleeves and/or make ludicrous statements, then I pretty much ignore it. But when they decide to use their fame to promote a left wing agenda, then I don't feel the urge to financially support them.

The only ones I will absolutely not watch anymore are Mel Gibson and Sean Penn. It just turns my stomach to see them.
Very sad.

826 Roger  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:20:29am

re: #822 Occasional Reader

The Barrett is .50 cal, but that is not the typical sniper rifle. More typically they are .308. And I have not seen what weapon the shooter allegedly used for this "crime"; it was not necessarily a sniper rifle.

A Tommy Gun would be most appropriate.

827 Iron Fist[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:20:31am
828 galloping granny  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:20:53am

re: #816 Iron Fist

,

If Reuters says it, it must be false. Bush could have told them to take a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut, and Reuters would have reported it as an appology. Whatever makes the US look bad.

This is true, of course. But this IS what Yahoo, who carries Reuters, is reporting as the "true" story. It is also, BTW, what Fox News is reporting -

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Either Bush did throw the trooper to the wolves or get ready for the explosion.

829 Lively  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:21:01am

re: #737 Nevergiveup

Pompano Beach Florida- on FOX- a car played chicken with a train today. Guess which one lost?


Home of the hangin' chad.

830 Widow'smight  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:21:02am

re: #805 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I don't know if he made up that name, never heard of it. His first name is Mark. Might be I'm just commenting cause I spent "Quality" time with the girls watching the chick flicks.

My only son is my dog, and we do guy stuff together.

831 paxnhymn  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:21:03am

re: #787 Occasional Reader

Good morning. Regarding the B-27 Koran Economy Target thingy: White House says that Bush expressed "concern" over incident, but did not apologize.

#706 savage:


Don't be ridiculous. It will be a cold day in Hell before President Bush would allow that to happen.

ridiculous is right! Ridiculous to get that fired up over an effing book! All-uhhh must be a piss poor excuse for a diety if his people have to fume and foment to protect his very existence. Remember, OR, I never thought W would stoop to allowing the wahabist cradle of terrorism to have enhanced nuclear material either, so anything's possible now!

832 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:21:10am

re: #794 Endangered in MASS Ya know, for twenty some odd years that's what I thought too, but discovered it was...a harpsichord! No shit! I heard William F. Buckley Jr. (RIP) playing harpsichord on some show and recognized the sound, went on a research project and yeppers, Buddy Holly, the 21 year old Texas Swing fan, wrote a very early Rock and Roll song featuring the harpsichord!

833 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:22:48am

re: #801 ggt Nope, harpsichord! LOL!

834 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:23:14am

re: #831 paxnhymn

Ridiculous to get that fired up over an effing book!

I agree. But if you really think that Bush is going to preside over this soldier being EXECUTED for this (as savage said)... well, I am open to any wager you care to propose on the subject.

835 incanus  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:23:54am

re: #280 haakondahl

Well, we run into a problem here. If Stupidium is an element, then it can't be composed of other substances. If it is composed of other substances, then it is a compound molecule, and cannot be assigned an element number.

More research required.

It's an anti-element, and therefore requires a new periodic table.

836 haakondahl  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:24:23am

re: #824 lobo91

Not true. The only "punishment" this Soldier has received, to my knowledge, is a transfer and a letter of reprimand. Neither was the result of an Article 15 or a court martial. Those are admininstrative actions.

The Constitution doesn't say you can't be "punished" more than once for the same act. It says you can't be tried more than once for the same crime. Big difference.

I could be wrong on this--a little rusty, and never had to deal with any of my guys making this choice but...
I believe that NJP is actually like a two-party agreement to binding resolution outside of the Judicial process. Anytime a Serviceman is offered NJP, he may decline it and opt for a Court-Martial. But that's typically a stupid idea. Very stupid.
Hidden in that deal is the fact that the Command has offered the NJP, which I believe removes their opportunity (if the NJP is actually carried out) to go the Judicial route.

837 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:25:23am

re: #819 ggt They still haven't fixed it? (memo to self -never buy an Acer puter). Geez, what's their excuse?

838 jaunte  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:25:33am

re: #783 realwest

Hi realwest. I shut down quickly last night, but here's that link you were looking for, to save for the next time you need it:
[Link: donate.barackobama.com...]
Just look for the country pulldown menu for the contribution from Iran option!

839 galloping granny  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:25:38am

re: #834 Occasional Reader

I agree. But if you really think that Bush is going to preside over this soldier being EXECUTED for this (as savage said)... well, I am open to any wager you care to propose on the subject.

I don't think he will be executed, but I think that he is going to be hauled into court on trumped up charges with little or no proof, and then he is going to be thrown in the brig for the duration of the useful part of his natural life, just like the Haditha Marines and the Border Patrol agents. Scape goat for political purposes.

840 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:26:01am

re: #827 Iron Fist

It looks to me like the Mohammedans shot up a Koran with an AK-47 to use as a propaganda tool.


Not that I'd in any way put that past the Islamists, but that just doesn't look to be the case here. Apparently the guy has admitted doing it, the Army said he did, so did the White House... I mean, Occam's Razor time, folks.

And YES, in a better world, the reaction would be "yeah? so?".

841 Sharmuta  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:27:19am

re: #835 incanus

It's an anti-element, and therefore requires a new periodic table.

I had no idea the discovery of N2L3 would be so ground breaking.

842 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:27:34am

re: #839 galloping granny

and then he is going to be thrown in the brig for the duration of the useful part of his natural life

For shooting a book? No.

just like the Haditha Marines and the Border Patrol agents

Who were accused of, ah, rather more serious crimes.

843 paxnhymn  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:28:13am

re: #840 Occasional Reader

Not that I'd in any way put that past the Islamists, but that just doesn't look to be the case here. Apparently the guy has admitted doing it, the Army said he did, so did the White House... I mean, Occam's Razor time, folks.

And YES, in a better world, the reaction would be "yeah? so?".

I've alwys loved the Harry Truman defense.."Yeah, I did. What about it?"

844 DesertSage  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:29:20am

re: #837 realwest

They still haven't fixed it? (memo to self -never buy an Acer puter). Geez, what's their excuse?

I have an Acer computer. With Vista.

2 gig RAM, and the thing runs like a dream!

845 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:29:38am

re: #836 haakondahl
Yep, that's my recollection also - course it was a looong time ago, but I don't think the UCMJ has changed that part - the Army offers you an Article 15, take it like a man; go for a courts-martial and you could get really SLAMMED!

846 ggt  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:29:38am

re: #837 realwest

Their excuse is that I haven't take it in to them yet. Very busy over the weekend. Still have to find the original receipt. I think I've got some block over this.

847 haakondahl  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:30:23am

re: #843 paxnhymn

I've alwys loved the Harry Truman defense.."Yeah, I did. What about it?"

For pithy eloquence, it's right up there with "Yeah? Make me."

848 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:30:41am

re: #838 jaunte

Hi realwest. I shut down quickly last night, but here's that link you were looking for, to save for the next time you need it:
[Link: donate.barackobama.com...]
Just look for the country pulldown menu for the contribution from Iran option!

Venezuela & Cuba are listed too.

849 lobo91  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:31:21am

re: #780 galloping granny

What I did see was this - appears to be in Arabic BUT - the holes are very small and very neat. Not at all what you would expect from the hardware our military carries. Might be a pistol, but only officers and the Duty Officer carry pistols.

As others have already mentioned, small, neat holes are exactly what you get from either a 5.56mm service rifle or a 7.62mm sniper rifle.

As for pistols, you'd be surprised at how many Soldiers carry them in Iraq and Afghanistan today. They are in no way restricted to officers.

The Soldier in question is a sniper. Snipers always carry pistols as backup weapons, because you can't shoot someone effectively at close range with a scoped sniper rifle. Same goes for machine gunners. Armored vehicle crew members also carry pistols.

Anyway, I've spent the last four years training units that are deploying overseas, and I've seen as much as one out of two Soldiers in a given unit carrying pistols (often in addition to their standard M-16/M-4).

850 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:31:29am

re: #840 Occasional Reader

Not that I'd in any way put that past the Islamists, but that just
doesn't look to be the case here. Apparently the guy has admitted doing
it, the Army said he did, so did the White House... I mean, Occam's
Razor time, folks.

Instead of "Achmed's Razor," which is to find islamic shenanigans as the most likely explanation.

851 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:31:55am

re: #838 jaunte Hey thanks a lot my friend - wish I coulda found it myself in time to get it on Gerta's blog but such is life.
I have, of course, written to Senator Clinton with that link and a description, but she may never have read it or had a staff member read it, cause I stupidly "cc'd" Johh McCain on the e-mail!

852 ggt  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:32:11am

re: #838 jaunte

over on the right, under Legal Complaince, it says you have to be a US Citizen or permanent resident. So, I guess you could be an ex-pat with internet access in Iran?

853 OldLineTexan  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:32:30am

re: #842 Occasional Reader

Who were accused of, ah, rather more serious crimes.

"Accused" and even "charged with" being a bit different from "guilty of".

For the record, the only thing the Border Patrol agents should have been punished for was being lousy shots.

The "Haditha Marines" - well, let's just say that I am not holding my breath waiting for an apology from Jack F'in Murtha for trying them in public. We can all see how that turned out.

854 haakondahl  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:32:41am

Oh Bama.
Oh Eight.
Oh Shit.

855 Lively  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:33:01am

re: #850 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

...Achmed's Razor, lol.

856 bosforus  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:33:47am

No early morning thread? Interesting.

857 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:33:50am

re: #842 Occasional Reader Morning O.R. and, iirc, the "Haditha Marines" who had all been convicted in the court of public opinion thanks to John Fucking Murtha, were in fact acquitted of the charges by the military courts.

858 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:34:13am

re: #853 OldLineTexan

"Accused" and even "charged with" being a bit different from "guilty of".

Of course. But "you are accused of murder and are facing serious jail time" is still rather different from "you are accused of shooting a book and are facing serious jail time".

859 incanus  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:34:16am

re: #510 goddessoftheclassroom

Please see this comment for an update. Thank you.

860 snowcrash  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:34:30am

N2L3, sits next to the element of Surprise on the periodic table. Stupid pun, I know! Just wanted to enter a comment to see if my computer is working OK. Very strange this am. Will log out, close IE and start again.

861 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:34:41am

re: #844 DesertSage
See ggt for my response to that one! LOL!

862 haakondahl  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:35:01am

Olbermann's Razor:

It's Bush's Fault! And YOU are the WORst! PERson! In the WO-O-ORLD!

863 jaunte  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:35:10am

re: #852 ggt

I just wondered, if so many contributions were coming in at $200 or under, how anyone could be sure the overseas contributors were citizens just because they checked a box saying they were. Who has the time to check before the election?

864 wahabicorridor  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:35:26am

re: #827 Iron Fist

A sniper would have had a much smaller grouping, rather than sprinkled all over the book

Good point. Hell, MY grouping would have been better.

865 Dustoff-507  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:35:47am

Morning All. Hey Realwest.

I feel like hunting! LOL

866 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:35:56am

re: #846 ggt Oh fer cryin' out loud {ggt} - how the hell are they gonna fix it if they don't have it to fix?!? Geez!

867 haakondahl  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:36:09am

re: #864 wahabicorridor

Good point. Hell, MY grouping would have been better.

Depends on the range of course. If that was from a quarter-mile, Not Bad. Not Too Shabby.

868 formercorpsman  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:36:20am

re: #838 jaunte


Wow, that's great.

In addition to government funds being directed to Rezko that find their way back as campaign contributions, now Iran can some of the same themsleves., (all that extra paper from their own U.S. mints)

Maybe I can find a good color copier on Craigslist.

869 Lucius Septimius  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:36:43am

re: #866 realwest

Hey Real; you got mail.

870 haakondahl  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:37:26am

re: #868 formercorpsman

Wow, that's great.

In addition to government funds being directed to Rezko that find their way back as campaign contributions, now Iran can some of the same themsleves., (all that extra paper from their own U.S. mints)

Maybe I can find a good color copier on Craigslist.

And some Un-Shredders. Made in Tehran.

871 ggt  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:37:36am

re: #863 jaunte

I agree. I think they probably used a standard payment submit form which as the drop-down box for all the countries.

Somehow, I think the Election Commission should have a way of efficiently tracking this.

872 Iron Fist[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:37:46am
873 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:38:01am

re: #849 lobo91 I reckon pistols (although I HATE that 9.mm) might be useful in house-to-house searches where you can't chuck in a grenade or even a flash/bang.

874 ggt  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:38:30am

re: #866 realwest

Hubby is going to take it in Wed or Thurs. I, obviously, am not emotionally prepared to do so. ;)

875 Doctor Know  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:38:34am

I would just like to point out, as of 10:30 AM NYC time, the comments on the Digg site are refreshingly thoughtful. They almost uniformly take the original poster to task for his ridiculous post, and a good many openly support our esteemed chief Lizard.

876 galloping granny  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:38:38am

re: #849 lobo91

As others have already mentioned, small, neat holes are exactly what you get from either a 5.56mm service rifle or a 7.62mm sniper rifle.

As for pistols, you'd be surprised at how many Soldiers carry them in Iraq and Afghanistan today. They are in no way restricted to officers.

The Soldier in question is a sniper. Snipers always carry pistols as backup weapons, because you can't shoot someone effectively at close range with a scoped sniper rifle. Same goes for machine gunners. Armored vehicle crew members also carry pistols.

Anyway, I've spent the last four years training units that are deploying overseas, and I've seen as much as one out of two Soldiers in a given unit carrying pistols (often in addition to their standard M-16/M-4).

Okay, I'll take your word for it. Wasn't allowed back when I was a good Army wife.

877 Lucius Septimius  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:38:45am

re: #873 realwest

I reckon pistols (although I HATE that 9.mm) might be useful in house-to-house searches where you can't chuck in a grenade or even a flash/bang.

OK, I'll bite -- why do you hate 9 mm?

878 jaunte  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:38:53am

re: #868 formercorpsman

Think of the shot of those guys in an 'internet cafe' (roomful of computers in Gaza) multiply by Ahmadinejad's x and again by $200, and the money starts to add up.

879 sparrowlake  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:39:00am

re: #797 Widow'smight

LOL. Hi there beautiful.
I'm far from beautiful - I double-checked just to be sure and my wife confirms this to be accurate.
What's 340?

880 lobo91  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:39:14am

re: #839 galloping granny

I don't think he will be executed, but I think that he is going to be hauled into court on trumped up charges with little or no proof, and then he is going to be thrown in the brig for the duration of the useful part of his natural life, just like the Haditha Marines and the Border Patrol agents. Scape goat for political purposes.

Not going to happen. He received a General Officer leter of reprimand already, and was returned to CONUS. If he were going to be tried, they wouldn't have already taken those actions (not because they couldn't, but because it would be redundant--no point in putting a letter in the file of someone you plan to put in jail).

He should probably start thinking about what he's going to do when his current enlistment runs out, because his military career is over, but I'd be surprised if any other action is taken against him.

881 Dustoff-507  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:39:27am

re: #873 realwest


Naaa 9MM have zero 'knock-down' power. It's just a darn 38 round. )-:

882 Lucius Septimius  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:39:35am

re: #876 galloping granny

Okay, I'll take your word for it. Wasn't allowed back when I was a good Army wife.

When did you become a bad one?

883 Roger  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:40:04am

re: #839 galloping granny

I don't think he will be executed, but I think that he is going to be hauled into court on trumped up charges with little or no proof, and then he is going to be thrown in the brig for the duration of the useful part of his natural life, just like the Haditha Marines and the Border Patrol agents. Scape goat for political purposes.

Bush will need that soldier when Barry hands Bush over to the ICC.

884 galloping granny  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:40:25am

re: #871 ggt

I agree. I think they probably used a standard payment submit form which as the drop-down box for all the countries.

Somehow, I think the Election Commission should have a way of efficiently tracking this.

I've installed more than a few standard form scripts and shopping carts. There is no "standard" list. Usually you have to add whatever you want there. And I think you would be pretty hard put to find Iran or Cuba listed on any US based website conducting financial transactions.

885 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:41:35am

re: #872 Iron Fist

Why would the US give the Koran to the Mohammedans?

The news accounts are that an Iraqi cop found the book at the range.

Again, I don't put it past them to fake something like this (either the incident or the photos), but the evidence seems against it in this case.

As for grouping... well, depends as what range and with what weapon. If he was at 200 yards with a scoped M24, sure, I'd expect better grouping. If he was just spitballin' it with an M4 with iron sights - that's pretty good shooting, actually.

886 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:41:47am

re: #852 ggt Oh yeah, LOTS and LOTS of Americans living in Iran and Cuba right now and just couldn't wait to get back to the States to contribute to Obama.
My ass - his friends in the M.E. (like that Phone Bank in Gaza that Charles had a thread about) just clicked "American Citizen" - I'd wager a TON of money has reached Obama's campaign coffers through what would be considered illegal means it the true donars were known.

887 yochanan  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:41:49am

does a lizard that keeps kosher the the gamey 4qtr of the morlock

888 ggt  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:41:53am

re: #884 galloping granny

Good to know! So it was planned to so the whole world could elect him.

Yes, that one-world government wants our money. Barack ain't stopping at the US. His handlers have a grand plan.

ugh.

889 galloping granny  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:42:19am

re: #880 lobo91

Not going to happen. He received a General Officer leter of reprimand already, and was returned to CONUS. If he were going to be tried, they wouldn't have already taken those actions (not because they couldn't, but because it would be redundant--no point in putting a letter in the file of someone you plan to put in jail).

He should probably start thinking about what he's going to do when his current enlistment runs out, because his military career is over, but I'd be surprised if any other action is taken against him.

That is what I said earlier - he's already been punished. Many news stories, however, are reporting that he is going to be taken into court over it. Reuters, Yahoo and Fox are all carrying this as coming from Bush. So, either the dude IS going to now be hauled into court or all hell is going to break loose because he isn't.

890 formercorpsman  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:42:27am

re: #838 jaunte

You know, the more I think about this, the more I getting fucking steamed.

How dare this fucker allow funds to come from a country that we have eliminated diplomatic ties with, the same money that can buy air time, ad time, to influence our election?

The same country counterfeiting our currency to purchase weaponry to kill our guys fighting for Iraqis as we speak.

The same country, where American companies have been punished by our own government for doing business?

I better quit now.

I know it will get me banned.

891 coz  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:42:28am

Good Morning and Happy Tuesday from the Land of Coz!

892 Dolphin  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:42:48am

re: #852 ggt

over on the right, under Legal Complaince, it says you have to be a US Citizen or permanent resident. So, I guess you could be an ex-pat with internet access in Iran?

Yea, that's it.

/sarc

893 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:42:55am

re: #877 Lucius Septimius

OK, I'll bite -- why do you hate 9 mm?

Ah, here comes the religious war...

Answer: Because the 9mm Luger round wasn't intelligently designed!

(I agree with realwest; insufficient stopping power)

894 ggt  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:43:03am

re: #886 realwest

So, how is this investigated? Which agency? Can an internet savy citizen do it?

Americans would be very interested to know.

895 galloping granny  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:43:05am

re: #886 realwest

Oh yeah, LOTS and LOTS of Americans living in Iran and Cuba right now and just couldn't wait to get back to the States to contribute to Obama.
My ass - his friends in the M.E. (like that Phone Bank in Gaza that Charles had a thread about) just clicked "American Citizen" - I'd wager a TON of money has reached Obama's campaign coffers through what would be considered illegal means it the true donars were known.

I could not agree with you more. And I think that he should be forced to account for every dime by country of donation.

896 jaunte  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:43:55am

re: #890 formercorpsman

Anyone know anyone working for the FEC?
I wonder if they have any checks at all for online contributions?

897 realwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:44:03am

re: #865 Dustoff-507 LOL! Howdy there Dustoff - wish you could post that video out here! ROTFLMAO at that, still!

898 lobo91  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:44:15am

re: #876 galloping granny

Okay, I'll take your word for it. Wasn't allowed back when I was a good Army wife.

There's actually a very practical reason for the number of pistols people carry in Iraq and Afghanistan: There's a rule on most FOBs that you have to be armed at all times, unless you're out doing PT.

Many Soldiers have an M-249 or an M-240B machine gun as their primary weapon.

Trust me, when you're walking across the FOB at 0300 to go to the latrine, or going to eat at the DFAC, you do not want to have to lug an M-240B around with you.

899 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:44:19am

re: #886 realwest

Oh yeah, LOTS and LOTS of Americans living in Iran and Cuba right now and just couldn't wait to get back to the States to contribute to Obama.
My ass - his friends in the M.E. (like that Phone Bank in Gaza that Charles had a thread about) just clicked "American Citizen" - I'd wager a TON of money has reached Obama's campaign coffers through what would be considered illegal means it the true donars were known.

Follow the money. We know Hillary had China donating via "Hsu", I guarantee that Mr. Obamessiah is getting a cash flow from Middle East contacts."

900 Charles  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:44:39am

re: #839 galloping granny

I don't think he will be executed, but I think that he is going to be hauled into court on trumped up charges with little or no proof, and then he is going to be thrown in the brig for the duration of the useful part of his natural life, just like the Haditha Marines and the Border Patrol agents. Scape goat for political purposes.

You're joking, right? Nobody could write this seriously.

901 ggt  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:44:45am

re: #887 yochanan

Don't Trolls automatically become kosher when bbq'd?

I thought I heard that somewhere. As long as they are properly "dressed" of course.

902 Dustoff-507  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:44:54am

re: #897 realwest


Me too buddy... Hunting a deer with a cannon... WRONG!

903 galloping granny  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:45:01am

re: #882 Lucius Septimius

When did y