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Urban Outfitters Glorifies Terrorism

Tue, May 20, 2008 at 8:23:09 am PDT

The clothing chain Urban Outfitters has been featured before at LGF, when they began selling the Palestinian kaffiyeh as a hip, stylish accessory, but this time they’ve stepped way over the line — with an openly anti-Israel T-shirt that glorifies Palestinian terrorism and child abuse.

This is really sick. UrbanOutfitters.com - Fresh Jive Victimized Tee.

What is wrong with these people?

Here’s the contact page at Urban Outfitters.

UPDATE at 5/20/08 8:28:09 am:

The reader who emailed about this outrage pointed to a Facebook page where someone posted an email from the maker of the shirt:

From: [redacted]

In regards to the Victimized T:

Expressing our view that the Palestinians are victims/have been victimized.
It is not an “anti-Israel” statement.

I appreciate your inquiry.

Thanks. Regards,
RICK

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1 bosforus  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:23:51am

What kids don't know will kill them.

2 Ojoe  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:24:18am

I want to see more Scout uniforms.

3 Sharmuta  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:24:18am

Fresh Jive? WTF?!

4 LeftJustAintRight  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:24:25am

Free speach and all ya know

5 rawmuse  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:24:42am

I've seen worse, but not on kids.

6 SalsaNChips  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:24:47am

Hoo-boy, the S is about to hit the F...

7 chinesearithmetic  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:26:02am

Fashion is cancer.

8 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:27:12am
9 Teacake!  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:27:16am

Perhaps these people grew up on violent video games and can't distinguish between fiction and reality when it comes to moral values.

10 alexwest  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:27:18am

Do they do this on purpose for free advertising?

This is ludicrous.

11 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:27:24am

Living near a college campus, I've seen some pretty disgusting tee shirts, but this beats all.

12 lobosan5  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:27:32am
'There is nothing to gained from sacrificing your Brain!'


OR

'This is your Brain on Stupid!'


are my 2 T-Shirt answers to this crap......to be printed on the back.

13 Let's Roll  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:27:43am

At least they didn't show the entire outline of Israel this time. Not much solace, of course.

14 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:28:13am

What a load of utter and complete shite.

15 daddycrack  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:28:40am

How about we put a picture of the aftermath of the sbarro bombing on a t-shirt as a contrast. I forgot, the Israelis deserved that because they victimized the palestinians. My mistake.

16 GGMac  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:28:52am

The propaganda methods/inroads become more and more disgusting.

17 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:29:01am
18 Kailen  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:29:25am

The kaffiyeh appears to be back too.

Second one?

Just a search for "scarf" on their site brings up a few similar designs.

19 JammieWearingFool  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:29:25am

These should sell like hotcakes at the Democrat Convention.

20 Ojoe  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:29:32am
21 jamgarr  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:29:36am

I'm not sure I get it. Victimized by whom?

22 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:30:06am

It's cuz of the VIDEO GAMES!

/

23 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:30:11am

Yeah, I'd say the Pali child soldiers depicted on the shirt have been "victimized". But not by Israel.

24 Sharmuta  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:30:48am

Well- if urban outfitters is soo concerned about these poor "victims", I wonder why it is these t-shirts were made in the USA. Are any of the profits going to assist these little "victims"? So not only are these t-shirts blatantly anti-Israeli, they're hypocritically pro-palestinian. The children on the shirt are being victimized by islam, hamas and now urban outfitters.

25 FrogMarch  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:30:52am

Leave it to hard core left-wingers to elevate and celebrate Jew-hatred, the eternal victim, and child abuse.

And I'm sure the t-shirts are made with toxic chemicals and cheap labor IN CHINA. That way the holy leftists can rat-fuck our souls and the planet.

26 Pawn of the Oppressor  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:31:33am

Funny how the shirt admits that the poverty-stricken "victims" somehow find the scratch to outfit their kids with jihad gear, machine guns, and explosives. Besides the fact that we're talking about a f-cking kid with a gun here, which is what the UN would call a "child soldier" (as in, that's a bad thing)?

I guess I shouldn't go looking for logic from the pro-"Palestinian" crowd. That's asking way too much.

27 lawhawk  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:31:44am

Jive (slang) = BS!

28 VegasRick  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:31:54am

re: #21 jamgarr

I'm not sure I get it. Victimized by whom?

Themselves.

29 jaunte  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:32:18am

What's that little circular design on the shirt above the Palestinian flag?

30 Alouette  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:32:19am

re: #24 Sharmuta

Well- if urban outfitters is soo concerned about these poor "victims", I wonder why it is these t-shirts were made in the USA.

Who says these T shirts are made in the USA? They are probably made in China, Namibia, Guatemala, or Sierra Leone.

31 GGMac  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:32:20am

I've got a new T-shirt, also...mine says:

Anti-terrorisn Task Force
Camp Whoop-Ass


:)


Hubby found it at a local flea market.

32 bosforus  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:32:22am

re: #21 jamgarr

I'm not sure I get it. Victimized by whom?

Hold that picture up to a liberal and I'm sure you'll get the same reaction as holding a cross to a vampire.

33 Squirrelguy  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:32:48am

Can't say it. Self deleted. Save Stinky from having to swing the stick.

34 toonman  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:32:50am

OT: The Cable Show 2008

Not that many visitors. Looks like they could of used some "booth babes". :)

35 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:33:07am

re: #32 bosforus

Hold that picture up to a liberal and I'm sure you'll get the same reaction as holding a cross to a vampire.

Or get asked on a date...

36 lawhawk  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:33:30am

Oh, and they're glorifying child soldiers? Who thought that was a good idea? Anyone? Bueller? These are kids being depicted carrying real guns.

This isn't fashion - it's showcasing the ugly worldview of those who run Urban Outfitters.

37 Squirrelguy  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:33:34am

re: #21 jamgarr

I'm not sure I get it. Victimized by whom?

It's the damn Amish I tell 'ya.

38 Sharmuta  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:33:36am

re: #30 Alouette

Who says these T shirts are made in the USA? They are probably made in China, Namibia, Guatemala, or Sierra Leone.

The details on the product from the link:

Armed and dangerous. Soft cotton tee from Fresh Jive with Victimized graphic at the front. Made in the USA. Machine wash.

39 brent  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:33:39am

I don't get it - what's wrong with showing kids with automatic weapons, kids that are assumed to be ready to kill -

Oh, I get it. It's supporting and (?) encouraging murder? While turning a profit? In that light, it is fairly malevolent, huh?


Why do I NOT think these people will be on Ubermahn's "Worst People (besides me and GE)" list this week / ever? What a tool, now that I think about it....

40 FrogMarch  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:33:44am

How come anti-capitalists get to sell t-shirts for money? Shouldn't they be happily working in a state run work camp?

Hypocrites.

41 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:33:52am
42 Squirrelguy  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:34:05am

re: #31 GGMac

I've got a new T-shirt, also...mine says:

Anti-terrorisn Task Force
Camp Whoop-Ass


:)


Hubby found it at a local flea market.

I want one!

43 bosforus  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:34:28am

Product description

Fresh Jive Victimized Tee

$9.99(Was $32.00) [tough sell]

Armed and dangerous. Soft cotton tee from Fresh Jive with Victimized graphic at the front. Made in the USA. Machine wash.
* Regular fit
* 26.5"l from shoulder to hem
* Fits true to size
* Cotton

44 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:34:37am

Urban Outfitters is now selling AK's as fashion 'accessories'.

/

45 LEGION  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:34:38am

Boycott, ostracize, condemn, and then ignore them. The wicked stench that comes from them is intolerable.

46 akak  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:35:40am

Global battlefield......rules of engagement.

47 GGMac  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:35:42am

re: #26 Pawn of the Oppressor

Funny how the shirt admits that the poverty-stricken "victims" somehow find the scratch to outfit their kids with jihad gear, machine guns, and explosives. Besides the fact that we're talking about a f-cking kid with a gun here, which is what the UN would call a "child soldier" (as in, that's a bad thing)?

I guess I shouldn't go looking for logic from the pro-"Palestinian" crowd. That's asking way too much.

And so...the UN is sending a rep to the USA to investigate for human rights abuses.

Some warped logic going on there on the East River.

48 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:35:58am
49 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:36:00am

Well, they do look victimized. Kids carrying guns in a culture of murdering religious nutters...are, by default being abused and victimized. That's how I choose to read the "T". Victimized by their own idiot culture.

50 kynna  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:36:25am

Mind blowing. The guy has a right to make the T-Shirt, and UO has the right to sell it, but do they have the slightest bit of sense in their stupid brains? How did UO become so successful being so moonbatty and idiotic?

I'm just appalled and speechless.

51 jaunte  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:36:30am

re: #43 bosforus

The story is in the price reduction from $32 to $9. It's an ugly design and no one wants to buy it, for non-political reasons. They can remainder them for automotive washrags.

52 Endangered in MASS  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:36:38am

re: #19 JammieWearingFool

I'll see your Chamberlain,Hughes and Kennedy and raise you a
Papelbon,Bucholz,and Lester.

53 Squirrelguy  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:36:38am

re: #39 brent

I don't get it - what's wrong with showing kids with automatic weapons, kids that are assumed to be ready to kill -

Then said kids need to be assumed ready to die.

54 Sharmuta  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:36:41am

Fresh Jive- the company producing this shirt also has a "hip" arafat shirt.

55 opnion  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:37:10am

re: #19 JammieWearingFool

These should sell like hotcakes at the Democrat Convention.


XXL for Michael Moore.

56 thedopefishlives  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:37:14am
Expressing our view that the Palestinians are victims/have been victimized. It is not an “anti-Israel” statement.

*head asplode* I don't GET these people sometimes. Saying the people commonly referred to as Palestinians are victims is tantamount to saying that Israel victimized them. Given that this statement is patently false, that would make this an anti-Israel statement. Why doesn't logic work on these people?!

57 Mike DeGuzman  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:37:14am

Guess what! I called the company and they told me that the tee was taken off and is no longer available!

58 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:37:18am

I made the mistake of googling Fresh jive. One of their other shirts is a giant picture of Arafat captioned "The good ol' days". Nothing but a bunch of crap.

59 yochanan  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:37:53am

message to urban out fitter GAY COCK OFF YOM in english go shit in the ocean.

60 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:38:38am

Is this shirt actually available in their stores?

If it is, I'm going to go into the Urban Outfitters near my home - which happens to be in one of the most Jewish areas in the US - and cause a real stink.

61 pegcity  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:38:43am

If it were the 1930's the left would be marching around in red arm bands.

They are truly the spawn of a hybrid of Nazism and Communism.

Fuck them, i hope they enjoy losing yet another election.

62 WriterMom  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:38:56am

Charles-these FreshJive people are LUNATICS.

Gang bang clothing, violence, yadda yadda.

They have a STORMTROOPER line of clothing. Is that effing sick or what?

63 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:39:13am

re: #2 Ojoe

I want to see more Scout uniforms.

re: #20 Ojoe

This is much better

Unfortunately, I can only give you one up ding per comment.
These comments deserve to be repeated - often!

64 sabra412  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:39:14am

re: #57 Mike DeGuzman

I called as well.
It is still on their website though.

65 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:39:20am
66 brent  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:39:29am
XXL for Michael Moore.

I'm sorry, on what planet does that tubby beotch wear double X-L?!?

I'm suddenly stuck with the image of him wearing that to bear his sexay midriff, and I feel the light fading to black before my eyes as merciful unconsciousness takes me away ..............

67 MellyMel  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:40:08am

Got a new t-shirt m'self. It says:

"The terrorists have won the toss...and have elected to RECEIVE!"

Of course, there is a picture of a bad ass US bomber in the middle. Picked up that diddy at the air show at Andrews AFB over the weekend.

68 WriterMom  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:40:59am
69 opnion  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:41:24am

re: #66 brent

I'm sorry, on what planet does that tubby beotch wear double X-L?!?

I'm suddenly stuck with the image of him wearing that to bear his sexay midriff, and I feel the light fading to black before my eyes as merciful unconsciousness takes me away ..............


Get that image out of your mind!

70 mj  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:41:34am

A few years ago Urban Outfitters sold a T-Shirt which said
"Everyone Loves A Jewish Girl" with the dollar bill symbol all over it.
Nice piece of antisemitism. They changed it after the ADL got involved and put Stars of David on it instead of the money symbol.

Face it: Urban Outfitters is a Jew-hating business.

71 opinionated  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:42:55am

To Urban Outfitters

If you want to know what a victim looks like, notice the hands, and the fact that the victimizer- not the victim- has a weapon.

[Link: www.jtf.org...]

72 bosforus  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:42:56am

re: #21 jamgarr

I'm not sure I get it. Victimized by whom?

Oops, earlier I meant to reply to #20, the picture of a boy scout in front of the American flag. Sorry for the confusion.

73 Yankee Zionist  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:43:00am

It's one thing to draw attention to the suffering of the Palestinian people. It's another thing altogether to glorify groups that murder civilians.

74 pegcity  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:43:51am

re: #70 mj

Jew Hatred is cool man.

Someone on here wrote years back that soon enough the left would try and make the swastika hip, i used to laugh at the idea, now im just waiting for American Jew Hatred apparel or whatever slacker POS company to do it.

75 sarah  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:44:02am

Sick. This is why I don't shop name brands.

76 JCM  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:44:06am

Jus' askin'

Wonder how Urban Outfitters would feel if a spoldydope went off in one of their stores?

Jus' askin'

77 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:44:21am

I wonder if wearing one to high school would violate the zero-tolerance policy?

78 miguelj  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:44:37am

The worst of it--the very worst!--is that these T-shirts will be bought by "liberals" (sic) in places like Vermont and Oregon who are so noble-hearted that they refuse to buy toy guns for their children!
(unlike those bitter folks in Appalachia who cling to their God and guns)

--Billy! I thought I told you to stop making those gun sounds!

----But, Mom! We're playing Freedom Fighter! And I've nearly got the Zionist racist oppressors finished off!

--Oh. OK, then.

79 montersj  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:44:38am

Well I don't find it offensive or sick at all. If I hadn't read all the comments here I would have thought these T-Shirts were kind of tongue-in-cheek humor.
I mean someone carrying a machine gun and all that stuff can hardly be described as a victim, and certainly not 'victimized.'
It is just yet another stupid t-shirt, just like the many that we see here in the streets of Jerusalem every day. And as a general rule, the Jews can be relied upon to carry even more rude or stupid messages than the Arabs.

80 bosforus  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:45:11am

re: #51 jaunte

The story is in the price reduction from $32 to $9. It's an ugly design and no one wants to buy it, for non-political reasons. They can remainder them for automotive washrags.

Or toilet paper.

81 pegcity  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:46:00am

re: #79 montersj

er ok,

well im pretty sure that 99.99% of people here disagree with you

82 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:46:31am

re: #55 opnion

XXL for Michael Moore.

XXL wouldn't fit around his neck, much less his waist.

83 miguelj  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:46:34am

PS - and dont'cha just love the Dove of PEACE over the kid's head?
What a little warrior for Peace!

84 brent  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:46:58am

That's something that's really horrific to me - this sick pattern of making a group a victim to turn them into thugs, into an army. It's being repeated all over - the Palestinians, the Muslims, the youth.

You're all oppressed, so here's how to inflict as much harm and hate as possible - all while looking just fabulous! My guts are just churning about this crap. Well, to be fair, I'm pretty hungry, too.. Still.

85 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:47:22am
86 WalterMitty  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:47:56am

I guess it's a fine line separating KP and, um, fashion statements.

Technically, the piece is absolutely true; but the Pavlovian response will be false. There is no plausible deniability for the producers of this item.

I remember seeing "1984" as a youngster and thinking, "No Way".

But I was just a kid.

87 WriterMom  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:48:20am

re: #79 montersj

And as a general rule, the Jews can be relied upon to carry even more rude or stupid messages than the Arabs

Bullshit.

As a general rule, the Arabs tend to blow up people-generally groups of Jews, they tend not to go for t-shirts.

88 tedzilla99  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:48:20am

My email:

I have seen your Victimized shirt and I am appalled and disgusted. You are glorifying terrorism and child abuse. These children are taught hatred and anger towards Israel and Jews, and grow up to murder Israeli women and children as suicide bombers. They CHOOSE to be 'victims' by shooting rockets at schools and homes in Israel, completely unprovoked. Your shirt shows your company to be incredibly naive, foolish, and ignorant of world issues. I have never, and now will never show you one single dollar. I thought the kaffiyehs were bad, but this is absolutely vile. And please don't tell me that you're not anti-Israel...there is no other definition for promoting palestinian terrorism. And that is what you are doing. You should be ashamed, but if you had any shame, I wouldn't have to write this.

89 WriterMom  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:49:02am

PS

Sniff sniff

90 pegcity  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:49:24am

re: #84 brent

That's something that's really horrific to me - this sick pattern of making a group a victim to turn them into thugs, into an army. It's being repeated all over - the Palestinians, the Muslims, the youth.

You're all oppressed, so here's how to inflict as much harm and hate as possible - all while looking just fabulous! My guts are just churning about this crap. Well, to be fair, I'm pretty hungry, too.. Still.

Can you imagine that ever other group did the same thing when angered, wed see how long the muslims remained so uppity.

But normal people have lives and jobs, we can't be bothered to go burn down bookstores and internet cafes when we feel slighted.

91 pegcity  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:50:00am

re: #87 WriterMom

Yeah i don't think my UZI DOES IT tshirt is quite on the same level as homicide bombings

92 The Albatross  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:50:53am

I am a US military veteran and I am very unhappy that your product line includes not only Palestinian kaffiyehs as "fashion accessories"... but I find now that you've chosen to include a very offensive t-shirt.

I am referring to your "Fresh Jive Victimized" item.

The glorification of children who have been victims of child abuse by their parents not only by arming them, indoctrination to anti-Semitism, but also by using them as shields, propaganda, and even by blowing up their own is abhorrant and repulsive.

The world could do without being bombarded by the Palestinian adgenda every 30 seconds. I find nothing fashionable about your merchandise and hope that you will pull this item from your line. Your "fashion statements" are subversive and a piss poor way of making a quick buck.

Shame on you Urban Outfitters. I'd very much appreciate it if you'd stop influencing the young people of America - as trendy as it may be - to glorify violence.

93 Is it me?  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:51:47am

I've just sent them an email to complain. I was polite but firm. I told them why I didn't like it and told them I found the T shirt offensive.

Don't just vent people! email, thats why Charles put up the contact details *slaps head*. I'm not an American so I wouldn't buy from them anyway but some things are beyond the pale. This is one of them.

94 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:53:39am

re: #88 tedzilla99

My email was less polite.

95 cjstavern  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:53:53am

While they're at it why not make a t-shirt with Hitler, Goebbles, and Auschwitz?

96 JCM  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:54:19am

A victim is powerless in the given situation, is unable to have an effect on the situation.

The Palestinians are not powerless, they can have an effect on their circumstances.

They can choose to act civilized.

97 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:54:34am
98 TalkinKamel  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:54:36am

re: #79 montersj

What planet do you come from?

99 pegcity  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:54:54am

re: #95 cjstavern

That's next, just wait.

The left will try and make Nazism cool.

100 jamgarr  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:55:39am

re: #79 montersj

And as a general rule, the Jews can be relied upon to carry even more rude or stupid messages than the Arabs.

Examples please

101 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:56:15am
102 Opinionated  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:57:08am

re: #93 Is it me?

I'm not an American so I wouldn't buy from them anyway

It looks like they have stores internationally, which may explain why it seems OK to them.

Where they have stores in Europe, this sentiment - and the anti Semitism from which it comes- is common and conventional wisdom.

103 sparrowlake  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:57:09am

re: #79 montersj

Well I don't find it offensive or sick at all. If I hadn't read all the comments here I would have thought these T-Shirts were kind of tongue-in-cheek humor.
I mean someone carrying a machine gun and all that stuff can hardly be described as a victim, and certainly not 'victimized.'
It is just yet another stupid t-shirt, just like the many that we see here in the streets of Jerusalem every day. And as a general rule, the Jews can be relied upon to carry even more rude or stupid messages than the Arabs.

Do tell.
Piss off.

104 tedzilla99  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:58:30am

re: #94 Ringo the Gringo

My email was less polite.

Good cop - bad cop!

105 pegcity  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:58:47am

re: #101 buzzsawmonkey

You just know the left wants too, it's just not appropriate, but wearing a tshirt with Mao or Che or any other tyrant except hitler is just aok.

Id be curious if i made a shirt and put Pol Pot on it and wore it to a campus if people would find it offensive, my guess is no.

The left is just not that offended with genocide, unless its a made up genocide commited by jews or americans.

106 Spiny Norman  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:58:53am
In regards to the Victimized T:

Expressing our view that the Palestinians are victims/have been victimized.
It is not an “anti-Israel” statement.

I appreciate your inquiry.

Thanks. Regards,
RICK

Palestinian Hitlerjugend are "victimized" all right - by their parents and the Hamas/Fatah propagandists who've indoctrinated them, filling their heads so full of hate they can see nothing else.

I suppose one could say the same for RICK.

107 TalkinKamel  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:00:18am

re: #68 WriterMom

Sent off an email, WriterMom. Hope it helps.

Boycott Urban Outfitters. And spread the word.

108 mj  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:00:26am

re: #74 pegcity

Jew Hatred is cool man.

Someone on here wrote years back that soon enough the left would try and make the swastika hip, i used to laugh at the idea, now im just waiting for American Jew Hatred apparel or whatever slacker POS company to do it.


"Kill a Jew For Palestine"?

"Dead Jews=Free Palestine"?

109 GGMac  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:01:22am

re: #65 buzzsawmonkey

Note the combination here: "Fresh Jive" is a hip-hop term, i.e., black in origin. "Victimization" is a common theme of both domestic race-hustlers and the Perpetual International Welfare Recipients who call themselves "Palestinians." The automatic weapons recall the old Huey Newton Black Panther posters.

Recall that the PLO, which invented the "Palestinian" people, was formed in 1964, after the Civil Rights Movement had achieved its true civil rights victories, and at the start of that movement's long slide into the hands of Marxists, hustlers, Islamists and black separatists. Almost immediately from the time the PLO was formed, the people who were beginning to wrest the movement away from its church-based roots, and its identification with the Israelites and the Exodus, began to build bridges to, and connections with, the Islamo-Marxist PLO, and to identify the American black community with the "Palestinians," not with Israel.

This T-shirt shows the triumph of those efforts begun long ago to build a unified identity of resentment between these two groups, and its mainstreaming in the larger American society.

buzzsawmonkey is spot-on once again. buzzsaw monkey is on a roll - not just today, but every day.

110 loppyd  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:03:57am

re: #107 TalkinKamel

Sent off an email, WriterMom. Hope it helps.

Boycott Urban Outfitters. And spread the word.

Just sent mine.

Oh and Good Morning/Afternoon Lizard Nation!

111 Spiny Norman  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:03:59am

re: #105 pegcity

You just know the left wants too, it's just not appropriate, but wearing a tshirt with Mao or Che or any other tyrant except hitler is just aok.

Id be curious if i made a shirt and put Pol Pot on it and wore it to a campus if people would find it offensive, my guess is no.

The left is just not that offended with genocide, unless its a made up genocide commited by jews or americans.

Most of the "young skulls full of mush" probably wouldn't recognise him. Kim Il Sung and/or his loinfruit, the maniacal dwarf with a pompadour, Kim Jong Il, might get a few "thumbs up", though.

112 WriterMom  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:05:10am

{loppy}

{Kamel}

113 loppyd  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:06:21am

re: #79 montersj

Hey Troll,

Enjoy your time while it lasts.

114 pegcity  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:06:28am

re: #111 Spiny Norman

i think its their skin tight jeans cutting off the oxygen to their brains

115 loppyd  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:07:25am

re: #112 WriterMom

{loppy}

{Kamel}

{WriterMom}

Victimized my ass.

116 elkafir  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:07:35am

My email:

Regarding your "Victimized" T-shirt:

You may want to consider an improved design featuring a Palestinian child with a suicide bomb vest featured in the front ot the t-shirt and the same child this time in scattered body parts on the back.

Also, a t-shirt featuring Palestinians dancing and jumping with joy in the streets at the news that the Twin Towers were brought down and 3000+ American were dead on 9/11 would be an instant marketing hit, don't you think?

117 bosforus  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:08:09am

re: #79 montersj

Well I don't find it offensive or sick at all. If I hadn't read all the comments here I would have thought these T-Shirts were kind of tongue-in-cheek humor.
I mean someone carrying a machine gun and all that stuff can hardly be described as a victim, and certainly not 'victimized.'
It is just yet another stupid t-shirt, just like the many that we see here in the streets of Jerusalem every day. And as a general rule, the Jews can be relied upon to carry even more rude or stupid messages than the Arabs.

3 comments and one's rated down to -9. Good start.

118 NoSubmission  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:08:12am

'fresh jive'?
I'm speechless. Literally.

119 montersj  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:08:53am

re: #81 pegcity

er ok,

well im pretty sure that 99.99% of people here disagree with you

So I see.
I certainly didn't mean to offend.
I mean, I'm living here in Israel since 1987, I've had Saddam firing stuff at me, constantly exploding buses, cafes etc., Hamas firing stuff at me, Hizbullah firing stuff at me, and a silly picture on a t-shirt I just can't get all that worked up over.
Please G-d that was the most dangerous thing I had to deal with this week...

120 soccerdad  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:09:36am

Sent to Urban Outfitters:

Your new 'Fresh Jive victimized Tee' shirt is over the top in blatant support of Palestinian terrorists. Are you kidding me? These people are lobbing rockets daily into Israel in an attempt to kill as many RANDOM (and innocent) Jews as possible. I cannot fathom why a company of your size would take this type of stand.

I understand and support your freedom to offer any product you can market. That's America. I also have the freedom to never, ever, purchase a product from Urban Outfitters and ensure my many friends and family understand my position.

Sincerely,

121 FreakyBoy  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:10:06am

More like Fashion Victimized.

Yeesh, what an ugly design.

122 Tikk  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:10:37am

I sent in my opinion of their products; and I'm sure it'll be dismissed.

123 Spiny Norman  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:11:39am

re: #114 pegcity

i think its their skin tight jeans cutting off the oxygen to their brains

Is skin tight coming back, like a "1970s punk revival" thing? I thought the cool kids were still wearing their baggies at mid-thigh.

124 bosforus  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:12:17am

re: #119 montersj

OK, I may have judged too quickly. Your side of the story is completely understandable. You definitely have a different perspective than we here in the US.

125 yma o hyd  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:12:22am

re: #79 montersj

I dinged you up by mistake - sorry about that.
(Forgive me, Lizards ...!)
This is pretty horrible, and drivel as well.
You may be unable to see what is wrong with that particular t-shirt - but the remark about the Jews was gratuitously offensive, and totally besides the point, as well as untrue.

So - sorry for the up-ding, can someone please rectify that and add more downdings, please!

126 JHW  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:13:41am

re: #89 WriterMom

In the link you gave to their catalog, there are some very strange photos under their advertising history section, I'm wondering what their target audience is. Some fairly tame ones but the photo of the fat guy sitting on the can had me wondering "What the...."? Storm troopers wanna-bes, weirdos, emos, the Folsom Street crowd, white kids pretending to be tough hip-hop guys.........a truly confused, strange bit of advertising. I guess that's what they call "edgy" now.
?

127 Yankee Zionist  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:14:29am

re: #79 montersj

Well I don't find it offensive or sick at all. If I hadn't read all the comments here I would have thought these T-Shirts were kind of tongue-in-cheek humor.
I mean someone carrying a machine gun and all that stuff can hardly be described as a victim, and certainly not 'victimized.'
It is just yet another stupid t-shirt, just like the many that we see here in the streets of Jerusalem every day. And as a general rule, the Jews can be relied upon to carry even more rude or stupid messages than the Arabs.

Proof? Got proof?

128 GGMac  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:14:56am

re: #79 montersj

Well I don't find it offensive or sick at all. If I hadn't read all the comments here I would have thought these T-Shirts were kind of tongue-in-cheek humor.
I mean someone carrying a machine gun and all that stuff can hardly be described as a victim, and certainly not 'victimized.'
It is just yet another stupid t-shirt, just like the many that we see here in the streets of Jerusalem every day. And as a general rule, the Jews can be relied upon to carry even more rude or stupid messages than the Arabs.

Interesting avatar. Did you know chocolate-covered cherries are poisonous if not properly "cured"?

Also - you can't be down-clicked enough for that comment.

Just sayin'

129 pegcity  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:14:58am

#123 Spiny Norman


re: #114 pegcity

i think its their skin tight jeans cutting off the oxygen to their brains

Is skin tight coming back, like a "1970s punk revival" thing? I thought the cool kids were still wearing their baggies at mid-thigh.

Nope tight is in, also having 0 muscle, dressing like a girl or a guy if your a girl, horribly dyed black hair and checkered sweaters and old school vans.

It's the 80's all over again, and for the first time in my life at 26 i feel old.

130 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:15:09am
131 Ezekiel2517  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:17:16am

re: #9 Teacake!

Perhaps these people grew up on violent video games and can't distinguish between fiction and reality when it comes to moral values.

Or maybe they grew up on violent word games, like Hangman.

132 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:17:44am
133 docremulac  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:18:35am

Ok, Urban Outfitters supports child soldiers.

Let's face it, "progressives" are the nazis of our time.

134 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:20:33am
135 pegcity  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:21:25am

re: #133 docremulac

how about the nazis were the progressives of their time

136 Twilight  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:21:29am

What's next? Bin Laden with burning WTC background and a "down with capitalism" slogan? Aftermath of a Tel Aviv homicide bombers with pictures of martyrs carried to heaven by angels with the writing "by blood and fire we'll free Al-Akza"? A picture of Hitler with Auschwitz death machine at work in the background titled "Hitler had the right idea"? How low can this leftist pro-terrorist atrocity go?

Freedom of speech is mighty fine, but enough is definitely enough.

137 sparrowlake  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:22:20am

re: #119 montersj

So I see.
I mean, I'm living here in Israel since 1987, I've had Saddam firing stuff at me, constantly exploding buses, cafes etc., Hamas firing stuff at me, Hizbullah firing stuff at me, and a silly picture on a t-shirt I just can't get all that worked up over.

Trollish behaviour. You said in #79 that you do not believe the T-Shirt is "offensive or sick at all". Yet your claimed experiences are completely inconsistent with your position. So you'll kindly excuse me if I don't believe you.
And a hearty FOAD to you.

138 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:22:38am
139 Ezekiel2517  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:23:47am

I sold my Urban Outshitters stock the moment I found out they were hawking Hamas scarves as fashion.

140 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:23:54am
141 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:24:41am
142 sffilk  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:24:44am

I just sent a lengthy e-mail about how, if the Palestinians are "victims," then the company is automatically anti-Israel, and how the company should check its history, wherein it would find that the Palestinian are victims only because they listened to those who told them to leave Israel in 1948 and that they'd be allowed to return when the Arab armies drove the Jews into the sea.

I don't think I'll get an honest answer, but figured it wouldn't hurt to try.

143 solergic  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:24:48am

I have a friend that was shot through the chest, and lived, by a gun toting Palestinian youth about 5 years ago while serving in the IDF. This tee is sickening.

144 JCM  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:24:52am

re: #119 montersj

So I see.
I certainly didn't mean to offend.
I mean, I'm living here in Israel since 1987, I've had Saddam firing stuff at me, constantly exploding buses, cafes etc., Hamas firing stuff at me, Hizbullah firing stuff at me, and a silly picture on a t-shirt I just can't get all that worked up over.
Please G-d that was the most dangerous thing I had to deal with this week...

Thanks for that clarification.

We've got another problem here in the US. A lot of people buy into sentiments on the [deleted] shirt. Those people are going to vote Obama.

If Obama get elected, your problems just got a whole lot worse. Those "victim" are going feel like they have a free hand.

While you live on the front lines, we do battle on the ideological front.

145 pegcity  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:25:02am

re: #139 Ezekiel2517

these idiots have stock?

im suprised they managed that between the clouds on bong smoke

146 Green Helmet Guy  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:26:51am

Now even Dunkin' Doughnuts has jumped on the Jihad- "peace" scarf craze. check out what their new mascot, Rachel Ray is wearing:

decide for yourselves if it is really a "peace" scarf.

147 MarineGrunt  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:28:31am

You think that's bad, check out Rachel Ray Pimping for Dunkin Donuts and the Palis

148 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:28:35am
149 GGMac  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:29:33am

re: #146 Green Helmet Guy

Now even Dunkin' Doughnuts has jumped on the Jihad- "peace" scarf craze. check out what their new mascot, Rachel Ray is wearing:

decide for yourselves if it is really a "peace" scarf.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm...interesting that the link came up "page cannot be found". Backlash already? :)

150 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:30:23am
151 Green Helmet Guy  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:30:48am

re: #149 GGMac

I wouldn't be surprised...lets hope.

152 pegcity  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:31:01am

re: #147 MarineGrunt

by the sound of her voice i wouldn't be suprised if that bitch gets lung cancer, she sounds like she smokes 3 packs a day

153 lostlakehiker  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:34:02am

So, let's try to understand this.

Are the Palestinians victims of some natural disaster? Of course not. If they are victims, it can only be that they are victims of Israel.

And what has Israel done to them? It has existed. If it were not for Israelis, all those nice homes and rich businesses now accidentally and purely by the whim of chance sitting inside the boundaries of Israel would belong to the Palestinians.

Just like those nice greenhouses that used to yield such a handsome income sat inside Gaza, back when Israel occupied Gaza.

Now, again by chance, because the Palestinians just can't get a break, the greenhouses are broken.

154 montersj  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:34:26am

re: #140 ploome hineni

tongue-in-cheek humor like the Breslov link?


That is not a link!
That, my friend, is my own personal website, which I built for my Yeshiva.

155 David Simon  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:34:55am

re: #152 pegcity

by the sound of her voice i wouldn't be suprised if that bitch gets lung cancer, she sounds like she smokes 3 packs a day

Or at least a food-borne illness. Have you ever watched her show? What an unhygienic pig!

156 MarineGrunt  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:37:07am

re: #152 pegcity

Or swallows three a day:)

157 dm60462  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:37:30am

When I called and said the name of the product, the sales rep immediately asked if I was calling to complain, so they've obviously been receiving similar messages.

158 pegcity  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:37:41am

#153 lostlakehiker

didn't you read the latest news out of the Middle east, the jews do control the weather

159 Green Helmet Guy  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:39:39am

re: #150 buzzsawmonkey

good call my bad...sorry

160 pegcity  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:39:49am

#157 dm60462

When I called and said the name of the product, the sales rep immediately asked if I was calling to complain, so they've obviously been receiving similar messages.

Sounds like Urban outfitters is going to run itself into the ground, and the best news is once Obama is elected and inflation is 10% and unemployement sits at 12% those worthless slackers who shop there won't have any jobs or incomes to by their nazi garbage.

161 Alibaba  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:40:49am

The Rick" who responsed to complaints is probably a little panty waist who has a boy crush on the Pali terrorist kids.re: #23 Occasional Reader

162 Green Helmet Guy  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:41:00am

re: #150 buzzsawmonkey

I already posted it under moonbats 40 mins ago anyway...

163 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:41:00am
164 winston06  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:43:09am

re: #7 chinesearithmetic

This type of fashion sucks and it is ugly...

165 Alibaba  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:43:43am

re: #142 sffilk
I also sent an email telling them they are out of their minds and if they think I would even dream of buying their garbage . . .

166 Alibaba  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:45:39am

re: #146 Green Helmet Guy
It is an ugly, ugly scarf and she looks like a space alien!

167 Alibaba  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:47:24am

re: #136 Twilight
Speaking of which, Pat Buchanan's latest beaut is a defense of Neville Chamberlain! That this guy gets any respect at all, is unbelievable!

168 GGMac  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:51:09am

Re: Rachel Ray/Dunkin' Donuts:

In case this link [Link: www.karmaloop.com...] doesn't work, go to comment #54 (Sharmuta), click on the arafat shirt link. Just to the left of the arafat shirt wearer's neck - click on KAZBAH. On that page, click on the NIKE HEAD (red), which takes you to a page with: DUNKS N' JORDANS t-shirt:

"Inspired by the classic doughnut chain...(etc)..."

Colors on the shirt, and graphics match the Dunkin' Donuts name/logo.
Looking as though Dunkin Donuts is another outfit perhaps all too ready to patronize the patrons of the palis.

169 Spiritualized  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:52:10am

'Freshjive' is a brand in itself.

Freshjive.com

There's another t-shirt featuring Arafat with the slogan 'the good ol days'.

170 Spiritualized  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:56:26am

That's already been covered, I see. Should've refreshed the thread before I typed.

171 anubis_soundwave  Tue, May 20, 2008 10:01:43am

...who are URBAN OUTFITTERS? Never saw them in the mall--not even next to HOT TOPIC.

Whoever they are, Charles should quit giving them free advertising. :)

172 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 10:02:09am
173 montersj  Tue, May 20, 2008 10:03:19am

re: #137 sparrowlake

Trollish behaviour. You said in #79 that you do not believe the T-Shirt is "offensive or sick at all". Yet your claimed experiences are completely inconsistent with your position. So you'll kindly excuse me if I don't believe you.
And a hearty FOAD to you.

Hey buddy, I take either the #1 or the #2 bus home every day from the Western Wall in Jerusalem, a bus that is usually full, and a proven prime target, and when I am waiting at the bus stop or standing on the bus, watching the Arabs getting on, believe me, what far far more occupies my mind is what they have under that t-shirt, as opposed to the picture that is on it.
By saying that I find it unoffensive, I simply meant that the picture pales into insignificance compared with the everyday situation that we are living with here.
Still, I see I offended a whole bunch of people, and I do apologise and hope you all forgive me. Perhaps I'll just keep my big mouth shut next time. It's just that everyone seemed to find it so offensive, and to me, it just....well, I wont repeat myself.

174 Else  Tue, May 20, 2008 10:05:29am

Looky! They are out of stock (when you click "check avilability")! It didn't take long. What a shame that it takes a bunch of LGF readers to pull their attention to the garbage messages they offer. All two and a half brain cells is definitely not enoough to figure it out BEFORE putting it for sale.

175 Mr Scientist  Tue, May 20, 2008 10:06:48am

re: #18 Kailen

The kaffiyeh appears to be back too.
...
Just a search for "scarf" on their site brings up a few similar designs.

As shown in the above link Wikipedia is wrong in that it says they've stopped selling the keffiyah.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...] (bottom of page)

176 David Simon  Tue, May 20, 2008 10:09:51am

re: #167 Alibaba

Speaking of which, Pat Buchanan's latest beaut is a defense of Neville Chamberlain! That this guy gets any respect at all, is unbelievable!

Oh it's way more than that:

Hitler had not wanted war with Poland. He had wanted an alliance with Poland in his anti-Comintern pact against Joseph Stalin.

But the Poles refused to negotiate. Why? Because they were a proud, defiant, heroic people and because Neville Chamberlain had insanely given an unsolicited war guarantee to Poland. If Hitler invaded, Chamberlain told the Poles, Britain would declare war on Germany.

From March to August 1939, Hitler tried to negotiate Danzig. But the Poles, confident in their British war guarantee, refused. So, Hitler cut his deal with Stalin, and the two invaded and divided Poland.

The cost of the war that came of a refusal to negotiate Danzig was millions of Polish dead, the Katyn massacre, Treblinka, Sobibor, Auschwitz, the annihilation of the Home Army in the Warsaw uprising of 1944, and 50 years of Nazi and Stalinist occupation, barbarism and terror.

[Link: www.theconservativevoice.com...]

What's his point? That Hitler would have stopped if he had been given Danzig and the Corrider? Apparently, Buchanan missed the lebensraum lecture in history class. Oh, and by the way Pat, even a cursory reading of Hitler's musings would inform you that Hitler had always intended to attack Russia.

177 drewberto  Tue, May 20, 2008 10:09:56am

This is how you send hate/complaint mail to corporate profiteers! I sent my letter directly to fresh jive because after all they actually make the shit. My letter:

Your company's politics SUCK.

o shit i got a really good idea all of a sudden. you
could take that classic fresh jive shirt with the
sliced lemon or lime. in the middle where all the
sections of lime meet you could photoshop it to look
like a swastika. That would certainly get you the
attention and market you are going after!

congratulations you company is allied with team
hitler! no seriously, since you have a portion of your
website dedicated to middle eastern political issues i
suggest you investigate the "palestinian"-nazi
alliance.

heres a nice link for you get an idea of where these
"victims" have been
coming from for the past 100 years.

[Link: www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...]

Do this fucking mess of a world a favor and stay the
fuck out of complex politics. Actually if i were you i
would even avoid simple things like PTA meetings.

ps... Do you really believe the shit you are selling?
its so homeless man cardboard sign cut and paste
aliens have landed and taken over the capital
political jibberish.

NOW THATS FRESH JIVE! LOL

178 Anthony (Los Angeles)  Tue, May 20, 2008 10:11:20am

I sent the following message through Urban Outfitter's web site:

I'm writing to complain about Urban Outfitter's glorification of Palestinian terrorism (the kaffiyeh, the AK-47, and the flag) and child abuse (using children as soldiers), as represented by your "Fresh Jive Victimized Tee." Palestinian terror groups such as Hamas, Islamic Jihad, and Fatah have killed thousands of Israeli Jews in a war of genocide. (Please check the Hamas charter to see what I mean.) The UN itself has been engaged in a campaign for years to stamp out the impressment of children into military service. (Did you never hear of Sierra Leone?) For Urban Outfitters to glorify such crimes, selling anti-Semitism and the mistreatment of children as edgy and "urban hip," is disgusting and reprehensible. I urge UO to stop selling such obscene items, and I can assure you that, as long as you do, I will not buy a single item from your shops and I will try my best to convince others to do likewise.

I'll be interested to see if I get any sort of answer.

179 nyc redneck  Tue, May 20, 2008 10:21:03am

it is disgusting how low people will go to make a buck. these immoral 'designers', may not even believe this stuff. bottom line it's abt. their bottom line. they are pushing the envelope for cash. it is so irresponsible. they are playing w/ the devil.

180 Tigger2005  Tue, May 20, 2008 10:26:18am

While I understand what you're saying monstersj, and I cannot imagine living as a constant target like you do, I think you need to consider something. Shirts like this assist in the mainstreaming of the Palestinian "victim" meme, and make the chances of the world ever coming to its senses about the Palestinian situation--and allowing Israel to truly defend itself and eliminate the threat--ever more remote. Therefore, this shirt directly helps perpetuate the circumstances in which you find yourself. It is not just offensive...it is harmful, dangerous propaganda.

re: #173 montersj

Hey buddy, I take either the #1 or the #2 bus home every day from the Western Wall in Jerusalem, a bus that is usually full, and a proven prime target, and when I am waiting at the bus stop or standing on the bus, watching the Arabs getting on, believe me, what far far more occupies my mind is what they have under that t-shirt, as opposed to the picture that is on it.
By saying that I find it unoffensive, I simply meant that the picture pales into insignificance compared with the everyday situation that we are living with here.
Still, I see I offended a whole bunch of people, and I do apologise and hope you all forgive me. Perhaps I'll just keep my big mouth shut next time. It's just that everyone seemed to find it so offensive, and to me, it just....well, I wont repeat myself.

181 nekama  Tue, May 20, 2008 10:29:25am

I just sent them this message:

I find the UrbanOutfitters.com - Fresh Jive Victimized Tee to be absolutely repulsive. It glorifies using children as soldiers and implies that Palestinians are victims of something other than their own depravity.

Why not do something about real victims such as the people of Darfur who are murdered by Islamists, or Jews who were murdered by Nazis?

We won't be shopping with you any more.

I'll post their response if I get one.

182 soccerdad  Tue, May 20, 2008 10:31:30am

re: #177 drewberto

EXCELLENT RANT! I laughed

183 soccerdad  Tue, May 20, 2008 10:35:32am

re: #172 buzzsawmonkey

You should check out the Freshjive "political blog" at the link "the world's got problems" on their site. Moonbat ravings.

Warning, warning, Not safe for work (Porn there too!)

184 trdlgmsr  Tue, May 20, 2008 10:36:22am

I just emailed the publisher and news director at the local paper - the Aiken Standard in South Carolina. Pointed them to the company's website and sent a picture of the t-shirt. This is absolutely disgusting.

185 sparrowlake  Tue, May 20, 2008 10:44:30am

re: #173 montersj

By saying that I find it unoffensive, I simply meant that the picture pales into insignificance compared with the everyday situation that we are living with here.

OK, and I assume that you have the same explanation for why you didn't think it was "sick" either. While the picture does pale in significance to the actual terrorist threat, we are actually talking about two different things - propoganda vs actual terror.
I certainly accept your explanation, but in future kindly just say what you mean - that way we won't all have to waste a lot of energy sorting out what you really meant.

186 Sunlight  Tue, May 20, 2008 10:45:57am
Expressing our view that the Palestinians are victims/have been victimized.
It is not an “anti-Israel” statement.

Well then. If it's not an anti-Israel statement, then that means any victimization has been done by themselves or their Arab co-travellers.

Urban Outfitters says Palestinian kids victimized by surrounding Arabs. Pass the word all over the internet.

187 TalkinKamel  Tue, May 20, 2008 10:51:12am

Here's a place you can get some really good, beautiful scarves: [Link: www.a-zara.com...]

188 ArmyWife  Tue, May 20, 2008 11:00:18am

I sent an email thanking them for getting the message out that the children of Palestine are, in fact, victims. I noted they are victimized by their parents, by Hamas, by Islam and by other Palestinians. I pointed out that children should not be decked out in automatic weapons and used as pawns in Palestine's ugly game. I stated its about time someone noticed these people don't even care about their children much less a peace process. Wonder how they will respond....

189 descolada9  Tue, May 20, 2008 11:04:54am

'scuse me while I pick my jaw up off of the floor. Un'friggin'believable

190 DANEgerus  Tue, May 20, 2008 11:08:18am
191 Yankee Zionist  Tue, May 20, 2008 11:09:26am

According to the facebook page, UO is yanking the tee-shirt.

192 jeremyglass  Tue, May 20, 2008 11:10:09am

I sent an email about the above to everyone I know and I insisted that they send it around. I also emailed Michelle Malkin, Drudge and the NY Post.

193 drewberto  Tue, May 20, 2008 11:25:54am

re: #182 soccerdad

Thanks soccer dad! I also serve ass kickings as well, but blast this damn interweb for forcing limits on the depths of my altercations :(

194 uptight  Tue, May 20, 2008 11:30:04am
Expressing our view that the Palestinians are victims/have been victimized.... is not an “anti-Israel” statement.

Which, logically means that either

a) They aren't saying that Israel is doing the victimizing
or
b) They do think that Israel is victimizing the Paleos, but they don't think that's a bad thing.

Urban Outfitters - brain dead, vacuous fashion whores.

That might make a good slogan.

195 themaninthestripedsuit  Tue, May 20, 2008 11:48:04am

This is an anti-hunting matter. This is all about the poor dove, victimized by the dove hunter shown on the t-shirt.

196 RobCon  Tue, May 20, 2008 11:53:25am

Urban Outfitters stock ticket is URBN.
Check your stock portfilio (IRA, 401K, ect) and make damn certain URBN is not in it. If it is, dump it and encourage others to do the same.

197 reine.de.tout  Tue, May 20, 2008 11:56:26am

Latest from that facebook page - Urban Outfitters is pulling the shirt and will not sell it. Apologies if someone has already posted this:

Urban Outfitters is removing the shirt. Thank you all for your help. Here is a copy of the email they sent me.

Hello Stevie –

Thank you for contacting us. We apologize for offending you with our t-shirt selection.

Please understand that we do not buy items to provoke controversy or to intentionally offend. We have pulled this item in all of our locations and will no longer be selling it online either.

We appreciate your concerns and our customer’s opinions are always welcomed and greatly appreciated.

Thank you for taking the time to express your opinion in this matter and I hope that you will continue to shop with us in the future

Regards,

Tracey Strober
Store Operations
Urban Outfitters

198 RobCon  Tue, May 20, 2008 11:56:26am

Charles
Perhaps it is time to inform readers that the stock ticker for Urban Outfitters is URBN.
Temporary boycotts mean nothing but if stock holders walk out, that's big trouble.

199 RobCon  Tue, May 20, 2008 11:58:30am

Who cares if they pull the shirt. Next year it will be another outrage.
Pull your URBN stock.

200 uptight  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:06:38pm

Charles & fellow lizardoids
Inspired by Urban Outfitter's chic, edgy haute couture, I've created this tribute tshirt.

Do you think they'll include it in next season's catalog?

201 OnTheRightSide  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:22:58pm

Wow, there are so many things wrong with that t-shirt.

202 Slumbering Behemoth  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:26:59pm
From: [redacted]

In regards to the Victimized T:

Expressing our view that the Palestinians are victims/have been victimized.
It is not an “anti-Israel” statement.

I appreciate your inquiry.

Thanks. Regards,
RICK

I suspect a typo. I am almost that is meant to be spelled with a silent "P".

203 Render  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:30:27pm

From: Render

In regards the Victimized T:

Expressing my view that Urban Outfitters should be shut down and all of its employees held without bail pending a full scale investigation to the last decimal point for possible fraud, drug possession, income tax evasion, hiring illegal aliens, child porn, aiding abetting this nations enemies in time of war, and dealing with terrorist organizations is not an "anti-Rick" statement.

It just means I think you're a terrorist loving dickhead who should leave this country.

POST
HASTE,
R

204 Robert L  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:38:49pm

There's a lot of these stores in NYC. The basic store theme seems to be dress like "Che". The Tee Shirt is just another step towards satisfying the City's young Lefties. I doubt if writing to them will do much.

205 Dave the.....  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:41:00pm

The Mall of America in Bloomington Minnesota has one of these. The mall owners are Orthodox Jews.

A little bit of irony.

206 justiceforall  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:49:02pm

The maker says, "Expressing our view that the Palestinians are victims/have been victimized. It is not an “anti-Israel” statement."

To be fair, this is a good point. However, more importantly, Urban Outfitters has been blasted in the past for making games like "Ghetto-opoloy," which many people saw as anti-black, and then there was a t-shirt that says, "New Mexico: Cleaner than Old Mexico," which a lot of people saw as anti-Mexican.

Do you all see this t-shirt in line with these products, which have since been pulled?

207 Dave the.....  Tue, May 20, 2008 12:54:12pm

Justice, difference is this shirt shows a terrorist holding a gun. The sole purpose that terrorists like this carry guns is to kill Jews.

Equivalent would be, say selling shirts with the Confederate flag...no problem in my view. Selling a shirt with a KKK member holding a noose, different story.

208 Render  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:10:27pm

re: #206 justiceforall

The Palestinians are not victims.

They are willing participants in the wholesale ethnic cleansing of all Jews from most of the Muslim world, including the Gaza Strip and West Bank.

What was your point again?

ERASER
HEAD,
R

209 Davidari  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:19:53pm

BREAKING -- Urban Outfitters has pulled the shirt. From the Facebook page:

"Urban Outfitters is removing the shirt. Thank you all for your help. Here is a copy of the email they sent me.

Hello Stevie –

Thank you for contacting us. We apologize for offending you with our t-shirt selection.

Please understand that we do not buy items to provoke controversy or to intentionally offend. We have pulled this item in all of our locations and will no longer be selling it online either.

We appreciate your concerns and our customer’s opinions are always welcomed and greatly appreciated.

Thank you for taking the time to express your opinion in this matter and I hope that you will continue to shop with us in the future

Regards,

Tracey Strober
Store Operations
Urban Outfitters"

210 legalbgl  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:37:54pm

My e-mail to Urban Outfitters:

I can not express my outrage in strong enough terms to your completely anti-semetic product, "Fresh Jive Victimized Tee". How can a company such as yours even sell such violently anti-semetic material.

Please note, until this item is pulled and an apology is taken out in a full page add ot the New York Times, I will do what ever possible to organize a boycott of your stores.

I am extremely hurt that you would sell such garbage! I am extremely hurt that you would attempt to slander the jewish people with such filth. Moreover, to popularize murderers and thugs, who think nothing of killing innocent women and children, degrades not only Jews, but, after 9/11, degrades all of America.

Regards,
A former customer!

211 Alibaba  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:43:36pm

I love it! It is a keeper!re: #200 uptight

212 Alibaba  Tue, May 20, 2008 1:46:03pm

re: #176 David Simon
Years ago, Bill Bennett said that "Pat flirts with fascism". He was kind when he said that - I would have said something much stronger. Pat has a history of defending Nazi war criminals and demeaning Holocaust victims - in addition to his naked hatred of Israel. It blows my mind that this man is a guest on radio and television and treated with respect.

213 TalkinKamel  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:21:22pm

re: #206 justiceforall

Well, since you ask---yeah, I do.

214 Cato  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:23:00pm

IT HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE WEBSITE

215 TalkinKamel  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:27:06pm

re: #206 justiceforall

By which I mean, it's tasteless and offensive----and I hope it does get pulled, along with those other items.

In fact, it's worse, since, as Dave the. . . points out, the kid (who actually looks scared, by the way) is shown holding a gun, presumably to shoot those horrible Israelis, who are, presumably, victimizing him. And this is being peddled as some hip, cool fashion statement, for little weenage girls/guys to wear to the mall, or at parties, or the beach. Not. Good. At all.

We really don't need anybody encouraging more hostility towards Jews, and/or more drooling idealization of the Palestinians as uber-victims. (I think we need "Ghetto-opoly, or the other trash Urban Outfitters pushes, but that's another topic, for another time.)

216 TalkinKamel  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:27:32pm

re: #214 Cato

Woo-hoooo!

217 norar  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:40:10pm

I wonder where these tees and kaffiehs are made. It looks that UO while trying to make an easy buck on the back of MSM lasy "reporters" also steal job from their favorite "victims".

I feel some regret that I succeeded in explaining to my teen kid sometime ago that Urban Outfiters sell greatly overpriced cheap copycat trash for style challenged kids. So I can't make him quit their shops again. He'd already told me to send their catalogues directly to recycling.

218 PloniAlmoni  Tue, May 20, 2008 2:41:22pm
219 PloniAlmoni  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:02:12pm

WOW. Okay, it's on Amazon too!
[Link: www.amazon.com...]

220 TalkinKamel  Tue, May 20, 2008 3:55:04pm

Ooops, should have said we DON'T need stuff like ghetto-opoloy! (What "genuis" thought that one up?)

That's what happens when the Kamel writes when she's all steamed up!

(Speaking of steamed up. . . Ploni, do you have a contact for Amazon.com? I keep trying to complain about their carrying the shirt, and I keep getting redirected to the tracking-your-order section.)

221 PloniAlmoni  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:13:40pm

re: #220 TalkinKamel

Negative, I couldn't find any Amazon contact either. This child abuse crap is also on sale at AOL shopping and MSN shopping. The company "Freshjive" is right here in Los Angeles too. Their website is really sick and disturbing. Look at their "good old days" shirt: [Link: www.freshjive.com...]

222 TalkinKamel  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:22:30pm

re: #221 PloniAlmoni

Ah, yes, the good old days. . . when Yassir was in charge, robbing the Palestinians blind, while plotting murder and playing "Tiger & Hyena with his favorite bodyguards. The good old days, when he got to plan the killing of American diplomats. . . it is to spew.

JusticeForAll, assuming you're still reading this, I suggest you check out Ploni's link. Me, far as I'm concerned, any flak these guys catch for their "whimsical" and "edgy" fashion, be it ghett0-you-know-what, or pics of Arafat, or Palestinian child abuse, it's very well deserved. Far as I'm concerned, everyone can pile on them.

223 TalkinKamel  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:25:56pm

re: #200 uptight

ROFLMA! Love your shirt! I want to see it featured in Vogue! (G-d that was funny! Helped save a most depressing day!)

(Howzabout one with Palestinians dancing on 9/11? It could be captioned, "They like us! They really like us!" Of course, what I'd really like is a T-shirt with one of the dread Mo-toons on it---maybe even all of them.)

P.S. Did you email your design to Urban Outfitters?

224 minion  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:28:51pm

Art obscures life.
Life Imitates art.

225 TalkinKamel  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:29:11pm

re: #188 ArmyWife

Have they replied to you yet? If they do, please share it with us!

226 TalkinKamel  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:31:11pm

re: #214 Cato

Now, if we could just get them to remove "The Good Old Days" Yassir Arafat T, as well.

(See their link, provided by PloniAloni in Post #221.)

227 ZionismRules  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:34:40pm

According to that facebook group, Urban Outfitters is pulling the item from their shelves. Here's part of an email posted on the group:

"Thank you for contacting us. We apologize for offending you with our t-shirt selection.

Please understand that we do not buy items to provoke controversy or to intentionally offend. We have pulled this item in all of our locations and will no longer be selling it online either."

Nice going everyone!

228 exredtory  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:40:47pm

As noted, the shirt doesn't explicitly accuse Israel, and it's true the Palestinians have been victimized - by the Arab governments that surround them, and their own vile leaders. Israel, not so much.

229 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:41:30pm
230 TalkinKamel  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:52:01pm

re: #206 justiceforall

Who are the Palestinians being "oppressed" by, if not Israel? And how is it NOT anti Israel to accuse it of victimizing the Palestinians?

(We know it's not the Palestinians' corrupt leadership they're blaming the oppression on, 'cuz they also sell a T-shirt with Arafat's ugly mug on it, and the caption "The Good Old Days." By the way, what do you think of that one?)

231 loggiedog  Tue, May 20, 2008 4:55:08pm

I'm waiting for Urban Outfitters to come out with the Daily Kos picture of the Israeli Flag draped over a coffin.

I hope Urban Outfitters goes belly up in this recession. So many other retailers of schlock (eg Sharper Image) are going into bankruptcy, yet no retailer deserves to go out of business more than Urban Outfitters, with its leftist, Israel Hating wicker laden trash.

232 dak  Tue, May 20, 2008 5:50:07pm

Victims with AK-47s.

Are they "toy guns" too?

233 dak  Tue, May 20, 2008 5:51:14pm

Always seems like "the oppressed", "the people", "the victims" have AK-47s.

I wonder why that is.

234 aces47  Tue, May 20, 2008 5:59:46pm

re: #227 ZionismRules

As of 6pm PDT, the Tee Shirt is no longer found on the Urban Outfitters web site...they responded to this quickly, as they should have.

235 Canadian  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:18:02pm

So I emailed the national post about this item...They published a story or a brief part on it here is the url

[Link: network.nationalpost.com...]

236 Red Ruffansore  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:36:30pm

They also sell shirts with "Bored with the USA" to which I could only reply (after knocking the snot out of their otherwise empty skulls) is "so why are you still here dipstick?". Then there is the edgy arabic McDonalds shirts which could only be accurate if the infidel wearing it was missing his teenage head which up to this point only served as a hat rack. The "Who AM I?" T shirt pretty well sums up the entire consumer base for this rope smoking crew. Worthless products for brain dead zombies. Seems like a match made in heaven, they profit from the stupid to produce more...well stupid. Zombies, they're all zombies.

237 Dave Brown  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:06:50pm

This Freshjive product line has a definite theme:

Oil Tick: [Link: www.karmaloop.com...]
Arafat: [Link: www.karmaloop.com...]
Victim: [Link: www.karmaloop.com...]

Seems to be a popular gang-oriented style. Just right for those edgy suburban rebels, to boost their street cred (at their local Liberal Arts college or barista gig).

Urban Outfitters is now "Out of Stock" of their "Fresh Jive Victimized Tee".
Awwww. Too bad.

But there's plenty more from the scumbags at Fresh Jive:
[Link: www.freshjive.com...]

Naturally, they've got no problem with taking a swipe at Jesus:
[Link: thehundreds.com...]

I guess we'll see laughing-boy Mohamad silkscreened on a funny tee-shirt soon, right?

238 Dave Brown  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:21:18pm

This is weird:

Richard Hayne is the president of Urban Outfitters, a chain of clothing retailers. Hayne is included in the Top 40 richest people in Pennsylvania. He is a graduate of Lehigh University. He founded Urban Outfitters, Inc. in 1970. The first store was located on the campus of the University of Pennsylvania. Today, the company operates over 200 stores under three brands: Urban Outfitters, Free People, and Anthropologie. Hayne is a prominent conservative today, and has donated to prominent senator Rick Santorum. The liberal tone of Free People and Urban Outfitters is a reflection of his more liberal early roots.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]


More here: [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

239 aaron's rantblog  Tue, May 20, 2008 11:09:00pm

The keffiyeh is this century's swastika.

240 akforty777  Wed, May 21, 2008 9:33:42am

I submitted a comment through the link but there was no confirmation or anything. There is an Urban store in Ybor City close to my home/school...they have some edgy stuff but this one takes the cake.

241 bentcursor  Wed, May 21, 2008 12:18:07pm

I just checked the web site and all I get is this on a blank page:

System error has occured. Please contact the System Administrator

([Link: www.urbanoutfitters.com...]

Btw, when I search for Palestine, I get this:

NO ITEMS FOUND: palestine
Perhaps you meant: "valentine"?
If you mistyped your query, please try another search, or use the menus above to search.

"Valentine"? I don't THINK so!

242 Dr. Shalit  Fri, May 23, 2008 5:32:37pm

Everyone -

"VICTIMIZED is RIGHT!" The entire rest of the world has been VICTIMIZED by the "Palestinian Refugee Myth" since 1948/9.
Approximately the same number of Jews living in Arab/Muslim lands were displaced by "the 1948 unpleasantness," to borrow a phrase from the "Daughters of the Confederacy." THOSE refugees have by and large become productive citizens of Israel or other nations that accepted them.
The "Palestinian Refugee" - at least the 'professional' ones have been on WORLD WELFARE, WITH THEIR OWN UN AGENCY, since 1948/9. The smarter and more enterprising among them have done well after they escaped the "VICTIM PLANTATION" - as they deserved to do. If we want to "Play Keys" - I will produce a set - made out of styrofoam, as big as a man's chest, for my Simi's ex-Father and Mother-in Laws old apartment in BAGHDAD, IRAQ where he was a Professor of English. Mom and Dad-in-Law are divorced - CITIZENS of the STATE of ISRAEL, and NOT on the WORLD DOLE!

-S-

243 Kalak  Fri, May 23, 2008 10:06:27pm

Why is it that the same leftists who would hyperventilate, if not call the police if I wore a Sig-Sauer shirt with an outline of a SIG P226 on it...are perfectly okay with a shirt showing a Pali terrorist kid holding an AK?

The same people who say that semiauto AK lookalikes are bad and evil love when actual bad people over there use them for atrocities.

Where is this mental disconnect? Were they all dropped on their head as children?


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