The Big Lie, redux

The Holey Koran

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These people should learn how to separate fact from falsehood, but that is forbidden in Islam.

re: #2 Shug

The Holey Koran

From the pics I saw, everyone over there should be glad it was just a book & not their chest. Pretty good shooting.

Weren't there instances of Allied soldiers using Mein Kampf for target practice in occupied Germany?

Can you imagine General Patton being forced to kiss "Mein Kampf" during an apology ceremony in occupied Germany?

Would Truman apologize to Hirohito if an Allied soldier shot up a copy of The Kojiki?

This incident is absurdity on stilts.

re: #2 Shug

The Holey Koran

"Holey shit, Batman"

(with apologies to "Portal") The book is a lie!

If we were still fighting for control of Iraq the soldiers actions would be one thing. You know war sucks and all that. But in my opinion, we've begun the 100 years occupation of Iraq and just as soldiers in South Korea and Germany don't thumb their noses at the country they're in this soldier should not have either.
Transfer him to Hawaii, and make him check for ordnance on the beach until his tour runs out. But let the rest of the troops know, next time won't be treated as lightly.

If one wanted to get deployed back home, this is a sure fire way to do it! Although super majority want to be there with their buddies, even the previously wounded. Much ado about nothing, those super sensitive shiites should shadd-up.

re: #7 VegasRick

"Holey shit, Batman"

I would never insult excrement by...

I'm sure the Bible is held in high esteem in any country which practices the RoP.

re: #3 taxfreekiller

Will the U.S. unSenate sell out today on the amnesty attached to the Iraq War funds.

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Already faxed and called my Senators complaining about this. Let's all get on the phone!

I don't think there is any way this soldier will be handed over to an Iraqi court for this.

Not new this pc shit in combat zones.

LBJ back in the day, he sent this CIA hack Gen. Cushman to the Maries in the I-Corps. . The sob, had our ass in a sling 4 times for "over reaction" to NVA and "other country troops"...

re: #9 EC Marm

There's a nice uninhabited island in the chain that the Navy used to use for target practice...

Eurabia ranks US;

Economist (UK): US more violent than Libya, Cuba, Syria

..."The U.S. does so badly because [it] has the highest proportion of jailed people in the world. And it has high levels of homicide and high potential for terrorist attacks," Killelea told The Associated Press. "Its overall score is a reflection of that. The index is not making any moral statements by the ranking."

Gavin Hayman, director of campaigns for Global Witness, a non-governmental organization that lobbies against corruption and human rights abuse, said the results were slightly skewed.

/slightly?

re: #11 The Other Les

I would never insult excrement by...

You are right. I should not insult excrement.

OT, why is the NBC editing of Bush's comments, not a big story, even on the right side of the web? This should be THE Story right now, IMHO...

re: #14 Sharmuta

I don't think there is any way this soldier will be handed over to an Iraqi court for this.

Of course not, Shar. It'd be tantamount to saying that we'd sign on to the International Criminal Court.

Sad to say, I can think of at least one Presidential nominee who would do just that.

re: #17 Terp Mole

Frak Eurabia.

When did Richard Engel start working for Al-Maliki ?

I think this soldier's 'punishment' should be to actually read the Koran, which would make him feel more justified for shooting it up. That is, if that wasn't the reason he shot it up in the first place. This is what happens when we pretend to give a damn about a book that calls for our destruction.

Real Koran shooting.

Thanks for this thread Charles - the media really IS doing it's best (and they are doing it pretty damn well) to get all "sides" involved overheated with this non-issue.
This thread will at least calm down some LGFer's and, I hope, a lot of LGF "readers"!

AOL is funny
"Which is the better response?"
Apology
Concern
"Vote"

They forgot to list "Who gives a shit" as a response.

Weird.

So it's OK to shoot and kill terrorists who fanatically follow the tenets of the book, but shooting the book itself is off limits?

This Gen. let the Special Forces base at Lang Veigh get over run by the NVA and VC, sat on his ass and would not send the Marines up the road from Ka Song, Gen. Westmoreland had to get in his command chopper and go to the I-Corps headqts and issue the Order himself.

PC will loose wars forever.

what are done to bibles confiscated at Saudi airports?

re: #20 thedopefishlives

Of course not, Shar. It'd be tantamount to saying that we'd sign on to the International Criminal Court.

Sad to say, I can think of at least one Presidential nominee who would do just that.

Yep, I am sure Obama is all for the ICC, bet he will never be asked that question before now and his coronation...

re: #9 EC Marm

Sensible suggestion.

I don't understand the Iraqi ministry claiming there was an apology, though.

If this were an Obama-led administration, the soldier would have been figuratively drawn and quartered. with accelerated "sensitivity training" immediately required for all military personnel.

The book was victimized!

/urban outfitters

re: #29 Shug

what are done to bibles confiscated at Saudi airports?

Don't trouble yourself with such trivial matters.

re: #17 Terp Mole

Eurabia ranks US;

/slightly?

Next time they need their asses pulled out of a fire, call Libya, China or Syria.

I don't think another soldier should die for these idiot people and their trifling book.

re: #26 VegasRick

AOL is funny
"Which is the better response?"
Apology
Concern
"Vote"

They forgot to list "Who gives a shit" as a response.

D: F*** em if they cant take a joke

re: #14 Sharmuta

He's been removed from Iraq, and they have no jurisdiction over him anyway.

tfk calls "set up", something smells on this

re: #31 Dianna

Sensible suggestion.

I don't understand the Iraqi ministry claiming there was an apology, though.

Unless it was a Pope Benedict style, "we're sorry you got so upset" type of non-apology.

re: #37 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

D: F*** em if they cant take a joke

F*** em even if they can.

Shooting the Koran does American troops harm because it needlessly inflames some locals who are trending in our direction. We know that the Koran inspires those who kill us, but it also does inspire those who work with us like the Iraqi Army and the Kurds. It would be one thing to use it at a shooting range in the US or even in Iraq and dispose of it, but it is different to inflame our allies.
Terp Mole's analogy with "Mein Kampf" (#6) is way off because Mein Kampf was strictly political, while the Koran is political and religious. Mein Kampf only inspired our enemy while this inspires our enemy and our allies. A better WWII analogy would be shooting up something relating to Charlemagne (if people still actively cared about it), offending both the touchy allies the Free French and the Germans.

So let's be clear, shooting up a Koran and leaving it around for the locals to find was a knucklehead thing to do. With that said, I am glad the President did not actually apologize and that the soldier will not face trial.

MSM won't be happy until they turn this into another Abu Ghraib. Cheap sensationalism.

re: #42 Canadastani

So let's be clear, shooting up a Koran and leaving it around for the locals to find was a knucklehead thing to do. With that said, I am glad the President did not actually apologize and that the soldier will not face trial.

close this thread. nothing can improve on that

If the big media cannot turn this into Abu Graib (sp) then it is a sign that their grip is slipping, and that is good.

re: #43 snowcrash

MSM won't be happy until they turn this into another Abu Ghraib. Cheap sensationalism.

They'll flog this dead horse all the way to the glue factory.

BBC's headline: 'Bush apology' for Koran shooting

US President George W Bush has made a personal apology over the shooting of a Koran by an American soldier...

Their source for this apology isn't, as you might think, the words of President Bush, but rather, Reuters.

"The American president apologised on behalf of the United States... promising to present the soldier to the courts," Reuters news agency quoted the statement as saying.

Bravo, BBC! Well done. Journalism at its finest.

An American staff sergeant — a sniper section leader

Among other things, this whole thing represents a real waste of talent. Guys with this skill set we NEED over there.

So someone shot up a Koran.

re: #31 Dianna

I don't understand the Iraqi ministry claiming there was an apology, though.

Imagine what it must be like dealing with these people on a daily basis.

Gag me..... We are a nation of whiney babies with no spine.

Shoot the Bible, no reaction. Koran, and all hell breaks loose. Screw the over-sensitive Muslims. I wouldn't freak out if a Bible was shot up. I'd be pissed, but it's an oh well situation. I'm sick of our armed forces being nuetered by PC Generals.... *sighs* When will we come to our senses.

I think I'll purchase a Koran this weekend and take it to the range with me. I need to sight in my ar15 and run some rounds through my glock 33.

Hole - e koran, Batman

I am in poor taste

I ate as much as I wanted

If only people cared as much about human lives as an inanimate object. And if they chose to care about this inanimate object, they'd care just as much about other inanimate objects of similar significance.

The media has sought to blow this situation out of proportion, which is understandable since the situation in Iraq has improved to the point of it being an anti-story. Good news is the only thing going on in Iraq these days as the political situation and military situation are improving on a daily basis.

So, when the military informs that they've taken action against a soldier who acted stupidly, the media goes into a lather.

Nice.

re: #48 Occasional Reader

Among other things, this whole thing represents a real waste of talent. Guys with this skill set we NEED over there.

Ain't that the truth...

re: #48 Occasional Reader

Among other things, this whole thing represents a real waste of talent. Guys with this skill set we NEED over there.

Yes we do, but his actions, if true, does question his judgement.

Don't eat too much now, wouldn't want people to think we're not OK

re: #50 Charles

Imagine what it must be like dealing with these people on a daily basis.

A cconstantly moving target, so to speak.

re: #32 Cartman

If this were the Obama admin. it never would have happened.

Obama would have unassed that AO on day one.

The media continues its single minded obsession with showing Iraq as a incurable mess.

Are you well-fed and rested?

er...constantly

/sheesh

re: #14 Sharmuta

I don't think there is any way this soldier will be handed over to an Iraqi court for this.

That was never in the realm of possibility.

US military personnel are not subject to Iraqi jurisdiction, period.

Bacon?

re: #48 Occasional Reader
I agree completely. Besides, Muslims seem to be doing a real bang-up job of destroying Korans when they attack other Muslims at a mosque.

re: #59 snowcrash

The media continues its single simple minded obsession with showing Iraq as a incurable mess.

fixed for reuters

re: #50 Charles

Imagine what it must be like dealing with these people on a daily basis.

Like talking to the bad guys in ATLAS SHRUGGED squared and cubed.

re: #49 ROPMA

So someone shot up a Koran.

NSFW!

Good thing Bush is president and not Obama.
He'd throw the soldier to the Islamists.
Oh, that's right. He'd get all of our soldiers out, with the biggest retreat since the French left Vietnam.

Dietary supplements are not OK

re: #51 Limitbreak22

Gag me..... We are a nation of whiney babies with no spine.

People used to say: "Grow Up!"

Now they hold your hand and suggest complaints you probably are bravely holding back.

OT-
DailyKos's "new southern strategy" post has now been completely removed..

sometimes your only options are either angry defiance (shooting at a Koran) or slavish obedience (kissing the Koran).
sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't

I'll have a milkshake

BBL

re: #3 taxfreekiller

Will the U.S. unSenate sell out today on the amnesty attached to the Iraq War funds.

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Hah. Here's the e-mail I sent off to Bob Bennett's office last week:

I noticed on Michelle Malkin’s website that you have tacked your name onto Dianne Feinstein’s illegal alien amnesty rider for the Iraq war supplemental spending bill. I can’t help but wonder why you have done so. This certainly does not represent my view of the situation, and I hope you change your mind — preferably before the bill goes to vote on the Senate floor. I strongly encourage you to remove your support from the entire bill and vote against it; the Iraq war needs funding, but if the liberals and Democrats are going to try to sneak in things like illegal alien amnesty along with it, the bill heartily deserves to die. More to the point, if Senators such as yourself are willing to go along with this deceit, then to my mind you are no better than they are and will not be receiving my vote when the time comes.

Coming from someone whose first time voting, ever, will be this November, and who thus has a chance to influence the election for a looooong time, I hope he perks up and listens.

I guess the Prsident of Iraq really did not have too much on the agenda at the teleconference. Or at least nothing as important as this trivial incident.

re: #7 VegasRick

"Holey shit, Batman"

Holey shiite, imam.

re: #46 Cartman

They'll flog this dead horse all the way to the glue factory.

Then they'll flog the bottle of Elmer's Glue-All.

Has Rage Boy been reached for comment?

re: #77 Ward Cleaver

Then they'll flog the bottle of Elmer's Glue-All.

They strike me as glue eaters rather than glue floggers

re: #55 Nevergiveup
Well, I'm not so sure the Koran was in fact shot up by an American, but - as I posted in my #64 - it would appear that Muslims don't mind destroying the Koran at all.

re: #53 lawhawk

If only people cared as much about human lives as an inanimate object. And if they chose to care about this inanimate object, they'd care just as much about other inanimate objects of similar significance.

The Koran is (for a Muslim) the embodied spoken thought of God. To shoot a Koran is to shoot the physically manifested part of God.

Of course in the real world the Koran is really part of the mutilated and dessicated corpse of a tree.