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New York Times Blog Blooper of the Day

Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:13:01 am PST

At New York Times “blog” The Lede, Mike Nizza has a post about blogosphere reactions to the Koran-shooting kerfuffle: Reactions: Defusing a Koran Shooting in Iraq - The Lede - New York Times Blog.

Nizza apparently went hunting for some right-wing ranting, and posted this:

...even a gun-rights advocate who railed against what he considered Muslim overreactions to previous incidents like the Koran shooting eventually wound up expressing his backing:

By the way, so no one takes this the wrong way, I’m not criticizing the senior commanders for apologizing; this is a reality that they have to deal with in Iraq. It would be counter-productive to do anything else, when a simple statement can defuse a lot of irrational popular anger, and only senior military officials will receive the necessary respect to cool things down.

It’s still an absurd situation, though.

Why does that quote sound so familiar? Maybe because I wrote it on Sunday.

Nizza seems surprised that a “gun rights advocate” is being reasonable about this. Imagine how much greater his shock will be when he realizes it’s actually the dreaded Little Green Footballs.

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1 The Other Les  5/20/08 10:14:15 am reply quote 2

Why work when you can Plagerize?

2 The Other Les  5/20/08 10:14:39 am reply quote 2

But please call it research!

3 buzzsawmonkey  5/20/08 10:15:12 am reply quote 1

re: #1 The Other Les

re: #2 The Other Les

Nice Lehrer quote.

4 shibumi  5/20/08 10:16:39 am reply quote 3

Wow, when the NYT finds out they inadvertently quoted Charles, their collective heads are going to explode, just like in the sci-fi classic "Scanners."

5 The Other Les  5/20/08 10:17:04 am reply quote 0

re: #3 buzzsawmonkey

Thank you.

Must go off and do laundry.

6 Charles  5/20/08 10:17:12 am reply quote 7

Layers of high-quality fact-checking!

7 bosforus  5/20/08 10:17:40 am reply quote 1

Ha ha, traction control cited lgf but obviously the citation was too hard to find for the NYT. Losers.

8 bosforus  5/20/08 10:18:46 am reply quote 0

Should we tell him, or let his ignorance fester?

9 Sharmuta  5/20/08 10:19:21 am reply quote 0

re: #7 bosforus

Ha ha, traction control cited lgf but obviously the citation was too hard to find for the NYT. Losers.

Well- I wouldn't be surprised if the nyt didn't want to send traffic to LGF, so they used a proxy site.

10 jorline  5/20/08 10:20:26 am reply quote 3

Charles, you made the Times...congrats!

11 tfc3rid  5/20/08 10:20:31 am reply quote 0

OT:

Ted Kennedy diagnosed with a brain tumor...

12 Shug  5/20/08 10:20:51 am reply quote 1

The Lede Load ( of shit )

13 soccerdad  5/20/08 10:20:58 am reply quote 2

re: #8 bosforus

Should we tell him, or let his ignorance fester?


I vote fester.

I LOVE the irony. Charles -- you've been published in the NY Slimes. (you've got friends in loooow places, where the whiskey flows and beer chases....etc.)

14 buzzsawmonkey  5/20/08 10:21:12 am reply quote 2

O Tempera! O Morons!

15 DistantThunder  5/20/08 10:21:12 am reply quote 0

Breaking - Kenney has a malignant brain tumor in the parietal lobe.

Prayers - my father had a non-malignant tumor - and it took him 2 years to recover after surgery.

16 Shug  5/20/08 10:21:20 am reply quote 0

re: #11 tfc3rid

OT:

Ted Kennedy diagnosed with a brain tumor...


Link?

17 bosforus  5/20/08 10:21:21 am reply quote 0

re: #9 Sharmuta

Well- I wouldn't be surprised if the nyt didn't want to send traffic to LGF, so they used a proxy site.

Either one wouldn't surprise me.

18 Dolphin  5/20/08 10:21:25 am reply quote 0

Sen. Ted Kennedy Has Brain Tumor, Doctors Say

19 DistantThunder  5/20/08 10:21:28 am reply quote 1

Sorry Kennedy

20 ishabibble  5/20/08 10:22:36 am reply quote 0

re: #1 The Other Les


Two words: General Praetreus.


He forged the alliance, one dumb Marine set it back, grand machinations made it right. The NYT blog is for those with the mouth, without the heart.

21 newton  5/20/08 10:22:52 am reply quote 0

Hey guys!

OT, but has anyone seen this at RedState?

Greg Craig, one of Barack Obama's foreign policy advisors defended John Hinckley, who shot Ronald Reagan.

A possible appointment to an Obama Administration's Department of State! For a man who has been compared to Reagan, this should remove all doubt that he is anything but.

22 bosforus  5/20/08 10:23:07 am reply quote 0

re: #18 Dolphin

Sen. Ted Kennedy Has Brain Tumor, Doctors Say

Of course, if Fox News is wrong, they'll be demonized till the cows come home. As if they're not already.

23 Endangered in MASS  5/20/08 10:24:06 am reply quote 0

re: #3 buzzsawmonkey

Lehrer on You tube(sorry)

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

24 Cygnus  5/20/08 10:24:22 am reply quote 1

re: #18 Dolphin

Sen. Ted Kennedy Has Brain Tumor, Doctors Say

I'm very sorry to hear this. I'm no fan of his, but I still wish him the best.

25 The Albatross  5/20/08 10:24:42 am reply quote 0

Heh... simpering idiot.

26 MandyManners  5/20/08 10:24:55 am reply quote 0
Imagine how much greater his shock will be when he realizes it’s actually the dreaded Little Green Footballs.

His widdle head will go "pop".

27 opnion  5/20/08 10:24:58 am reply quote 0

re: #22 bosforus

Of course, if Fox News is wrong, they'll be demonized till the cows come home. As if they're not already.

Other radio stations are now reporting the same story.

28 Dolphin  5/20/08 10:25:05 am reply quote 0

re: #22 bosforus

Actually heard it on ABC - went to Fox for the link.

/but understand the sarcasim

29 Endangered in MASS  5/20/08 10:25:08 am reply quote 0

re: #15 DistantThunder

That's not good. Prayers for Ted and his family.

30 JammieWearingFool  5/20/08 10:26:35 am reply quote 0

The idiot linked me in there.

To be sure, there were extreme views expressed on both sides. On the left, a Daily Kos blogger asserted that the Koran shooting was “Worse Than Abu Ghraib.” On the right, the incident was called overblown, and the apology overdone (“He kissed the [expletive] book?“) and useless (”Good luck with the groveling“).

Since I had already noted the Kos link, I redirected added the NYT link just to bamboozle their readers.

Update: In typical understated fashion, a Kosling says this is worse than Abu Ghraib. And we all know how well that went over with the haters on the left.
31 Russkilitlover  5/20/08 10:26:57 am reply quote 0
Why does that quote sound so familiar? Maybe because I wrote it yesterday.

Big NYT is ripping you off!

32 JammieWearingFool  5/20/08 10:27:28 am reply quote 0

re: #21 newton

Hey guys!

OT, but has anyone seen this at RedState?


A possible appointment to an Obama Administration's Department of State! For a man who has been compared to Reagan, this should remove all doubt that he is anything but.

IIRC, Craig was one of Slick's impeachment lawyers.

33 taxfreekiller  5/20/08 10:27:49 am reply quote 0

Could be its a direct feed from here.

34 Endangered in MASS  5/20/08 10:31:16 am reply quote 0

re: #2 The Other Les

"Let no one elses work evade your eyes..."

Nicoli Ivanovitch Levachinski

35 jorline  5/20/08 10:31:51 am reply quote 1

re: #15 DistantThunder

Breaking - Kenney has a malignant brain tumor in the parietal lobe.

Prayers - my father had a non-malignant tumor - and it took him 2 years to recover after surgery.

I never agreed with his politics, but my prayers go out to Senator Kennedy and his family.


This is what separates LGF from HuffPo. Had this been Bush or Cheney the they would have posted every vile comment and they would be dancing in the streets.

Thanks for keeping LGF a clean and classy site, Charles.

36 snowcrash  5/20/08 10:32:31 am reply quote 0

Good news: Everyone shops at the blogosphere info warehouse.
Bad news: Not siting source of content sampling.

37 JammieWearingFool  5/20/08 10:34:09 am reply quote 0

re: #33 taxfreekiller

Could be its a direct feed from here.

That site links to here but basically reprints entire posts from here and elsewhere.

It's one thing to link someone's else material, quite another to reprint the whole thing on your own site.

Seems to be alot of that going on.

38 Kostya Lotz  5/20/08 10:34:12 am reply quote 0

Weasels and their weasel words, lead to weasel madness, fomented by weasel management. W-E-E-E-A-Z-E-L-S I says!

Cowardly weasels at that too.

Shoes for Industry

39 Ward Cleaver  5/20/08 10:37:11 am reply quote 0

Fear the football!

40 sonoffar  5/20/08 10:38:06 am reply quote 0

Plagiarism is a writers sincerest form of flattery.

41 taxfreekiller  5/20/08 10:39:29 am reply quote 1

Of some note:

The sorry ass Dallas Morning News.

Their Monday edition is so small now you can not tell it from the little
local news papers when they throw them in the mornings.

This Monday's was only like 15 pages, aka mini lies.

Soon they will be mini loons and self delivering the lies on the way home in their personal cars.

fn' commie loons

42 Pawn of the Oppressor  5/20/08 10:45:25 am reply quote 0

"Gun rights advocate"? LOL. So that's what LGF is about!

From my cold dead cycling gloves!

Er... That doesn't sound right...

43 hazzyday  5/20/08 10:48:35 am reply quote 0

No standards for blog quoting. I found his article hard to read. Too much "cut and dash". I found myself thinking that the poster on that blog probably hadn't read the articles either. It takes a little time to read, digest, and summarize. I think the lowest common quoting standard is accurate link and funny title. Accurate link, accurate title, and blogroll name would be better. And in his case he should color code the stuff that he copies to distinguish it from his original content.

44 RoughRider  5/20/08 10:52:02 am reply quote 0

re: #41 taxfreekiller

Of some note:

The sorry ass Dallas Morning News.

Their Monday edition is so small now you can not tell it from the little
local news papers when they throw them in the mornings.

This Monday's was only like 15 pages, aka mini lies.

Serves them right for naming the Illegal Alien as their "Texan of the Year" for 2007.

45 Charles  5/20/08 10:53:24 am reply quote 1

re: #30 JammieWearingFool

The idiot linked me in there.

I missed that -- "good luck with the groveling" is an extreme view?

On the other hand, "extreme" is the right word for the other blog he linked in that paragraph.

46 astronmr20  5/20/08 10:55:15 am reply quote 0

Even if this WAS written by an anonymous gun-rights advocate... what does gun rights have to do with the story to begin with? ?


These people shouldn't have passed pre-school.

47 astronmr20  5/20/08 11:01:51 am reply quote 0

re: #45 Charles

I missed that -- "good luck with the groveling" is an extreme view?

On the other hand, "extreme" is the right word for the other blog he linked in that paragraph.

So... how do you handle this one? Just let them realize it after some readers email them.... or demand in a strongly-worded letter that they admit to the egg on their face and acknowledge who you are, and that your site has nothing to do with gun rights?

48 JammieWearingFool  5/20/08 11:04:54 am reply quote 0

re: #45 Charles

I missed that -- "good luck with the groveling" is an extreme view?

On the other hand, "extreme" is the right word for the other blog he linked in that paragraph.

I guess I'm an extremist to them.

Had to read it twice to make sure they weren't calling me useless.

49 Tom Kratman  5/20/08 11:05:50 am reply quote 0

Does anyone know if the alleged Koran was:

a. In Arabic, or
b. A translation, or
c. In whole or in part bilingual?

I ask because if it was b, a translation, it was _not_ a Koran. That's right, unlike the OT and NT, it's only official if it's in Arabic.

If it was a, an Arabic copy, do we know if the soldier could read Arabic? If not, no intentional "crime."

Only if it was c was there an intentional shooting at something we might call a Koran.

50 Daryl Herbert  5/20/08 11:36:38 am reply quote 1

Why would a "gun rights advocate" be in favor of a U.S. soldier deliberately inflaming tensions (by shooting the Koran, and then leaving the copy to be found by Iraqis)?

Does the NYT think "gun rights advocates" are in favor of all uses of guns, any time, any way? That doesn't make any sense.

No. The correct answer is that the NYT assumes gun rights advocates are stupid bigots. That, in and of itself, is bigoted. The NYT has shown its bigotry once again.

51 markie  5/20/08 11:56:07 am reply quote 0

re: #4 shibumi

Wow, when the NYT finds out they inadvertently quoted Charles, their collective heads are going to explode, just like in the sci-fi classic "Scanners."


Pop go the weasels....

52 Winslow  5/20/08 12:00:36 pm reply quote 0

re: #14 buzzsawmonkey

O Tempera! O Morons!

'Tis true, 'tis pithy, buzz.

53 DJ Wahaba  5/20/08 12:09:17 pm reply quote 0

People, seriously now,
We're dealing with a nation that the worst terror attack made on their land was a rumor that a bomb was placed in a mosque; nearly 1000 people died without using firearms or knives...
I mean, the Koran might be a good book, really, but it's a printed copy that costs 50 Iraqi cents (It's not like they destroyed the first manuscript written by Mohamed (Was there one anyways?)). How that justifies hurting other human beings for real?
And the reason why these people get hurt? having the same origin geographically.
And we're suppose to apologize to people who rationalize in this way....

Charles, help...

54 Occasional Reader  5/20/08 12:32:39 pm reply quote 0

Charles, I am happy to see you are now a designated gun rights advocate. So will you join us on the gun threads now? Just as long as you aren't one of those heretics who defend 9mm parabellum... all of whom should be burned at the stake!

/getting into the swing of "exaggeration week" here at LGF

55 Occasional Reader  5/20/08 12:34:03 pm reply quote 0

re: #14 buzzsawmonkey

O Tempera!

Coming right up.

56 offendi  5/20/08 1:15:50 pm reply quote 0

Beyond ongoing loss of revenue and the firing of reporters the Times is increasingly in my opinion becoming the befuddled old uncle who the democratic left wants to stay in his room when company (voters ) come over. Jayson Blair and helping John Kerry lose the last election with an article quoting him equating terrorism to simple crime.

It is certainly embarrassing to come out in support of Clinton and then have your columnists wage an ongoing campaign of decimation against her. What will the result be if Obama tanks in 2008 and Clinton rises as the democratic phoenix in 2012?

I predict that by 2012 the Times will be owned by Rupert Murdoch. When I open the paper in that year I expect to see "Times Page 3 Girls". Heh, heh.

57 Ceemack  5/20/08 2:11:06 pm reply quote 0

As far as The Times is concerned, anyone in favor of gun rights is one step away from being up in a clock tower. So yes, any sign of what they would term "reasonableness" comes as a complete shock to them.

58 2SoonOld2LateSmart  5/20/08 2:14:23 pm reply quote 0

Ha, ha.

This is better than prime time TV.


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