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Breaking: Ted Kennedy Diagnosed with Brain Tumor

Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:23:13 am PDT

The cause of Senator Ted Kennedy’s seizure has been announced: a malignant tumor in the left parietal lobe of his brain.

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1 itellu3times  5/20/08 10:23:57 am reply quote

No linkage?

I can't find any article, just messages here.

2 Shug  5/20/08 10:24:07 am reply quote

Well I wish him the best. If a cure is not possible, then as many quality months with his family as are possible.

3 Tamron[deleted]  5/20/08 10:24:18 am
4 Dianna  5/20/08 10:24:26 am reply quote

Poor man. I hope there's a treatment.

If not, may he reach peace.

5 itellu3times  5/20/08 10:24:33 am reply quote

Headlines on news sites, not yet on Drudge.

6 Israel4ever  5/20/08 10:24:40 am reply quote

wth? Is this a joke? (Sorry! I haven't been watching the news the last couple of days!)

7 bosforus  5/20/08 10:24:54 am reply quote
8 Nevergiveup  5/20/08 10:25:08 am reply quote

re: #6 Israel4ever

wth? Is this a joke? (Sorry! I haven't been watching the news the last couple of days!)

Appears to be true.

9 Dianna  5/20/08 10:25:20 am reply quote

re: #6 Israel4ever

He had a seizure over the weekend.

10 bosforus  5/20/08 10:25:26 am reply quote
11 MandyManners  5/20/08 10:25:26 am reply quote

Bummer.

12 Israel4ever  5/20/08 10:25:34 am reply quote

oh i see. I almost couldn't believe this. yikes

13 marge45b  5/20/08 10:25:36 am reply quote

Our prayers are with him and his family.

14 itellu3times  5/20/08 10:25:39 am reply quote

re: #6 Israel4ever

wth? Is this a joke? (Sorry! I haven't been watching the news the last couple of days!)

He had seizures, not a stroke, and now this diagnosis, which sounds very, very serious, according to postings here.

15 CIA Reject  5/20/08 10:25:46 am reply quote

I disagree with Senator Kennedy's politics, but he is a fellow American and a fellow human being so I sincerely pray for his recovery and wish his family well.

16 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  5/20/08 10:25:51 am reply quote

left parietal lobe

Damage to the left parietal lobe can result in what is called "Gerstmann's Syndrome." It includes right-left confusion, difficulty with writing (agraphia) and difficulty with mathematics (acalculia). It can also produce disorders of language (aphasia) and the inability to perceive objects normally (agnosia).

17 MandyManners  5/20/08 10:25:51 am reply quote

re: #6 Israel4ever

The front page has a thread about it.

18 kayatribe  5/20/08 10:26:14 am reply quote

frack. this news makes my rainy seattle day that much more grey. here's wishing the senator much strength for what he faces.

19 jcm  5/20/08 10:27:02 am reply quote

Prayers for the Ted and Kennedy family. Much strength and peace for them in the coming days.

20 soccerdad  5/20/08 10:27:20 am reply quote

re: #2 Shug

Well I wish him the best. If a cure is not possible, then as many quality months with his family as are possible.

What she said.

21 Silhouette  5/20/08 10:27:36 am reply quote

May he enjoy the blessings of God, the comfort of his family, and the services of the finest medical treatment.

22 Scarab  5/20/08 10:27:37 am reply quote

My prayers for him and his family.

S.

23 Fellay Timi  5/20/08 10:27:43 am reply quote

Not my favourite politician, but I wish him all the best, hope he gets better soon.

24 jcm  5/20/08 10:27:50 am reply quote

re: #18 kayatribe

frack. this news makes my rainy seattle day that much more grey. here's wishing the senator much strength for what he faces.

I hoped you enjoyed our summer last weekend.
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25 Shug  5/20/08 10:27:54 am reply quote

I need a new nickname.
Everybody thinks I'm a she

how about Brutus?

26 Dolphin  5/20/08 10:28:01 am reply quote

I don't care who you are or how much I disagree with you - NOBODY deserves cancer. Lost my mother to it, my brother is in remission (bladder), sister in remmision (brain), lost father-in-law two years ago (lung). I HATE CANCER.

27 Sabnen  5/20/08 10:28:05 am reply quote

I've disagreed with many of the things he has championed and his questionable behavior, but I'm still sorry to hear about his troubles. A difficult road lays ahead.

28 lawhawk  5/20/08 10:28:12 am reply quote

Reuters reports it is a glioma.

29 dalejrfanfreak  5/20/08 10:28:22 am reply quote

Ya know, I hate to say it but if Kennedy was a Republican he'd probably have the left wing sites happy that he's got a tumor like they were happy that Tony Snow had cancer. I hope he gets better, even though I strongly disagree with his political policies.

30 mustng66  5/20/08 10:28:24 am reply quote

Not good, my brother died of lung cancer 1 1/2 years ago and it started going to the brain. Bad news for Mr. Kennedy and his family, another tragedy for the Kennedys. I despise the man's politics to my very core but I wish him longer life and comfort at this terrible time in his life. May he be in no pain.

31 buzzsawmonkey  5/20/08 10:28:25 am reply quote

One may dislike Ted Kennedy's politics; one may joke about his fondness for the grape. One may deeply despise his behavior in, and the handling of, the Chappaquiddick incident.

But it is tragic that he should have to experience this. May he have a refuah shelema (a complete healing).

32 JammieWearingFool  5/20/08 10:28:34 am reply quote

I wish him the best. Hopefully, he can overcome this.

33 Sharmuta  5/20/08 10:28:38 am reply quote

That's too bad. Prayers for the Kennedy family.

34 Nevergiveup  5/20/08 10:28:59 am reply quote

My best wishes go out to the Kennedy family. G-D knows they have had their share of tragedy. But I am a tad ticked already seeing liberal talking heads on TV already using this to plug their liberal agendas.

35 joncelli  5/20/08 10:29:12 am reply quote

Here's a link (might be the same AP story). I don't like Teddy but that's a horrifying diagnosis. May he fight to live on.

36 opnion  5/20/08 10:29:14 am reply quote

It may be too early, but has anyone heard his prognosis?

37 really grumpy big dog Johnson  5/20/08 10:29:20 am reply quote

My thoughts are with Senator Kennedy and his family in this very tough time. While I don't agree with his politics, there's no doubt that he's been a major figure on the political scene for a great many years.

The news sounds pretty scary, but I understand that the place where he is now is one of the best in the world, so here's to hoping he can fight through this to more quality years of life with his family.

38 LionFromzion  5/20/08 10:29:22 am reply quote

I'm no fan but Good Luck Senator!

39 Vergeltung  5/20/08 10:29:49 am reply quote

re: #15 CIA Reject

I disagree with Senator Kennedy's politics, but he is a fellow American and a fellow human being so I sincerely pray for his recovery and wish his family well.

same here. none of us should wish ill on anyone...

40 Nevergiveup  5/20/08 10:29:54 am reply quote

re: #36 opnion

It may be too early, but has anyone heard his prognosis?

Poor.

41 wolfie  5/20/08 10:30:02 am reply quote

This sounds just awful.

Can any lizards w/ medical savvy fill us in?
If it's a malignant glioma in the parietal lobe, my guess is that it is inoperable. Is that probably so?
Will radiation retard its progress?
I've known a couple of people w/ brain tumors who suffered horrible headaches.
Is this likely to happen?

I'm hoping he won't be in pain and that they can do something to slow down the growth.

42 galloping granny  5/20/08 10:30:13 am reply quote

re: #1 itellu3times

No linkage?

I can't find any article, just messages here.

I don't think anyone has had time to type anything yet. Tumor is a glioma in the left parietal lobe. They have already (as I understand it the day he was flown into MA General) done a biopsy.

Gliomas are very fast growing, very invasive turmors. Very dangerous.

43 Dianna  5/20/08 10:30:18 am reply quote

re: #26 Dolphin

It is utterly awful.

44 dsrtegl  5/20/08 10:30:23 am reply quote

Although we do not share the same point-of-view, I wish him the best for a speedy recovery.

Regardless of political persuasion, no one deserves that diagnosis.

45 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  5/20/08 10:30:25 am
46 Ojoe  5/20/08 10:30:42 am reply quote

As much as I dislike his politics I wish him health and if not that then the loving arms of his family

47 jetprop  5/20/08 10:30:52 am reply quote

Godspeed, Mr. Kennedy.

48 ted  5/20/08 10:31:45 am reply quote

My mom died of the same thing. Sadly it is a grim diagnosis even with removal, chemo and radiation. Rarely more than a year.
My prayers are with the Senator and his family.

49 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  5/20/08 10:31:55 am reply quote

re: #28 lawhawk

Reuters reports it is a glioma.

Quick googling says thats one of the nastiest kinds, does not respond well to treatment.

50 calcajun  5/20/08 10:31:56 am reply quote

Do they know if it is operable? What kind of chances does a man of his age (and habits) have with chemo and radiation therapies?

I pity him and his family and what they are all going to have to go through in the coming weeks and months.

51 galloping granny  5/20/08 10:32:01 am reply quote

re: #41 wolfie

This sounds just awful.

Can any lizards w/ medical savvy fill us in?
If it's a malignant glioma in the parietal lobe, my guess is that it is inoperable. Is that probably so?
Will radiation retard its progress?
I've known a couple of people w/ brain tumors who suffered horrible headaches.
Is this likely to happen?

I'm hoping he won't be in pain and that they can do something to slow down the growth.

They biopsied it so it is likely also operable. The big problem with a glioma is actually getting it all - very difficult to do. Let me see if I can find anything in layman's terms.

52 wolfie  5/20/08 10:32:03 am reply quote

re: #25 Shug

I need a new nickname.
Everybody thinks I'm a she

how about Brutus?

I second that motion.
He was "the noblest Roman of them all."

53 jcm  5/20/08 10:32:15 am reply quote

Glioma.
Wiki is fast, Kennedy is already in the notable cases section.

54 Cygnus  5/20/08 10:32:18 am reply quote

re: #29 dalejrfanfreak

Ya know, I hate to say it but if Kennedy was a Republican he'd probably have the left wing sites happy that he's got a tumor like they were happy that Tony Snow had cancer. I hope he gets better, even though I strongly disagree with his political policies.

Kos would be doing handsprings and passing out candy.
Prayers for Sen. Kennedy and his family.

55 DieLibsDie  5/20/08 10:32:19 am reply quote

Isn't it nice to see that everybody on this side is, to this point anyway, civil and supportive? What would happen, I wonder, on one of the opposition's sites, if it was someone from our team?

Anyway, this is pretty much a death sentence, especially since it wasn't caught until he had major symptoms. Go with God.

56 ArmyWife  5/20/08 10:32:32 am reply quote

My prayers to Senator Kennedy, his faily and his friends. Though a hope for a cure is always wished for, if that can't happen, may he find comfort and peace.

57 loppyd  5/20/08 10:32:33 am reply quote

This is the most I can find right now from CNN

Kennedy has malignant tumor
Sen. Edward Kennedy has a malignant brain tumor. The hospital treating Kennedy released a statement today saying that the tumor was found during tests after the senator had a seizure Saturday. The tumor is in his left parietal lobe. Full story soon.

58 vxbush  5/20/08 10:32:40 am reply quote

I had a friend who had a brain tumor (not sure where; almost assuredly not where Senator Kennedy's is) and while they were able to get it out with surgery and she's in remission, she is definitely not the same person. Lots of physical disabilities now and a real problem with fatigue.

It's tough to watch in a friend. I just wonder what the doctors are suggesting for the senator. Prayers for him.

59 ladycatnip  5/20/08 10:32:43 am reply quote

Politics aside, my prayers are with him and his family, for peace, comfort and consolation during this very traumatic time.

60 THorfin  5/20/08 10:32:45 am reply quote

I have had much fun over the years poking fun at the fat man but I would not wish this on anyone. I watched my aunt die of a series of brain tumors.

My prayers are with him and for his family. I hope he has made his peace with the maker.

61 Marine Mom  5/20/08 10:32:49 am reply quote

Shoot. I'm sorry to hear it.
Hope he'll have great treatment and will recover.

62 Green Helmet Guy  5/20/08 10:32:56 am reply quote

re: #2 Shug

There is treatment for it:

On May 20, 2008, doctors discovered that Kennedy has a glioma, a type of malignant brain tumor.The typical treatment is indicated as radiation and chemotherapy.

A speedy recovery.

63 doppelganglander  5/20/08 10:33:26 am reply quote

I lost a good friend to a brain tumor a few years ago. She was only in her early 50s. It's so sad to watch. His family should be with him now, while he still knows what's going on around him.

64 Pawn of the Oppressor  5/20/08 10:33:39 am reply quote

*cringe* Not good.

I extend basic human sympathy and a broad wish that he not suffer needlessly. As for the rest... That's not up to me.

66 Shr_Nfr  5/20/08 10:33:55 am reply quote

My sympathies are out to him. Even for this to be successfully treated is nasty. Chemo, radiation and all the rest. May it go easy for him. I dislike his positions, but I wish no ill for any human.

67 itellu3times  5/20/08 10:34:18 am reply quote

re: #41 wolfie

I've known a couple of people w/ brain tumors who suffered horrible headaches.
Is this likely to happen?

Um, it's already causing seizures.

68 ted  5/20/08 10:34:32 am reply quote

Glioblastoma Multiforme:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

69 Ringo the Gringo  5/20/08 10:34:37 am reply quote

One thing you can say about Ted Kennedy, he's a fighter.

70 Conservative in Liberal Hands  5/20/08 10:34:38 am reply quote

In looking up "glioma" at Glioma, there is ALREADY a reference to: Ed K.

Notable cases

* Fred Conlon
* Daniel W. Hardy
* Edward Kennedy
* Kim Walker

71 galloping granny  5/20/08 10:34:54 am reply quote

Here is a fair synopsis from the Society for Neuroscience -

For years, researchers puzzled over an aggressive form of brain cancer. The lethal glioma tumors often outsmart traditional cancer treatments such as surgery, and quickly invade healthy brain tissue. But now an understanding of the biological makeup and survival mechanisms of glioma tumors is helping researchers develop methods that they hope will kill the cancer.

Brain tumors always have been one of the most devastating diseases because they are so difficult to treat, much less cure. But now scientists are on track toward finding what may be definitive treatments for the most virulent of these tumors.
The growing mass of cells in a brain tumor bullies healthy cells by pushing them out of their way and squeezing them against the skull. This hinders the brain's ability to orchestrate life functions. Depending on the tumor's size and location, paralysis, behavior changes and dizziness, to name a few of the symptoms, can occur.
A glioma tumor is particularly damaging because it tends to quickly sprout and spread within the brain. Each year, approximately 20,000 Americans find out that they have a glioma. More than half die within 18 months.

[Link: www.sfn.org...]

72 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  5/20/08 10:35:23 am reply quote

Now how does this affect his Senatorship? Would he be required to step down and if so, who would replace him, or would a special election get called?

73 Dianna  5/20/08 10:35:41 am reply quote

re: #67 itellu3times

That's not a good sign, is it? That's what they call "frank systems".

74 Kosh's Shadow  5/20/08 10:35:46 am reply quote

re: #39 Vergeltung

same here. none of us should wish ill on anyone...

Well, there are some people I wish ill to. Amadmanonjihad, for example, and the various heads of Hamas. And Osama, even if he's already dead.

But Kennedy should have had a long, comfortable retirement. I hope he still can.

And I hope we elect a Republican in his place, although given Moonbattachusetts, that seems less likely than a quick and full recovery.

75 Nevergiveup  5/20/08 10:35:50 am reply quote

re: #58 vxbush

I had a friend who had a brain tumor (not sure where; almost assuredly not where Senator Kennedy's is) and while they were able to get it out with surgery and she's in remission, she is definitely not the same person. Lots of physical disabilities now and a real problem with fatigue.

It's tough to watch in a friend. I just wonder what the doctors are suggesting for the senator. Prayers for him.

In cases such as Kennedy's, sometimes the "cure" ( and I use that term loosely) is worse than the disease. I hope that just because he is famous, his doctors do not over treat him. He deserves some dignity in his dying days.

76 kiwiviv  5/20/08 10:36:07 am reply quote

Prayers for the family and the Senator

77 JammieWearingFool  5/20/08 10:36:13 am reply quote

re: #53 jcm

Glioma.
Wiki is fast, Kennedy is already in the notable cases section.

In some cases, Wikis are nearly as fast as Lizards. Nobody's faster than this crew.

78 Scott P  5/20/08 10:36:22 am reply quote

God bless, Senator. Best wishes to you and your family.

79 Endangered in MASS  5/20/08 10:36:22 am reply quote

re: #35 joncelli


"May he fight to live on."


...and live to fight on.

80 chinesearithmetic  5/20/08 10:36:42 am reply quote

What tragic news. I will pray for him.

81 THorfin  5/20/08 10:36:49 am reply quote

I have been told that the type of tumor teddy has is very bad. They grow fast and the treatment depends upon the location of the tumor.

82 Pawn of the Oppressor  5/20/08 10:37:18 am reply quote

Read the Wiki... Ugh, that's awful. It sounds like one of those issues where the treatment is as bad as the problem.

Honestly if I had that, I'd be tempted to just set a date for a lonely walk in the woods with a shotgun, and spend the intervening time with loved ones.

83 lurking faith  5/20/08 10:37:18 am reply quote

re: #36 opnion

It may be too early, but has anyone heard his prognosis?

There will probably have to be further testing and analysis of the particular cell structure of the glioma before they can suggest a prognosis. If it's the most aggressive kind, he'll be lucky to live a year.

I may not approve of his politics or his personal behavior, but I pity him greatly for the road he now has ahead of him. Also the family.

84 Conservative in Liberal Hands  5/20/08 10:37:20 am reply quote
Symptoms of gliomas depend on which part of the central nervous system is affected. A brain glioma can cause headaches, nausea and vomiting, seizures, and cranial nerve disorders as a result of increased intracranial pressure. A glioma of the optic nerve can cause visual loss. Spinal cord gliomas can cause pain, weakness, or numbness in the extremities. Gliomas do not metastasize by the bloodstream, but they can spread via the cerebrospinal fluid and cause "drop metastases" to the spinal cord. - Wikipedia


His prognosis is not very good. Thoughts and prayers to his family!

85 gtiness  5/20/08 10:37:22 am reply quote

that's awful. best of luck/wishes to him and his family.

86 NoSubmission  5/20/08 10:37:34 am reply quote

Wishing the Senator and his family the best at this difficult time.

87 the jinxmedic  5/20/08 10:37:36 am reply quote

May God give him the strength to fight this, but if that is not to be, please grant him freedom from physical pain and give him peace.

88 loppyd  5/20/08 10:37:48 am reply quote

CNN has more now....


"Preliminary results from a biopsy of the brain identified the cause of the seizure as a malignant glioma in the left parietal lobe," according to a statement from the doctors treating the senator.

"The usual course of treatment includes combinations of various forms of radiation and chemotherapy," they said.
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"Decisions regarding the best course of treatment for Senator Kennedy will be determined after further testing and analysis," the doctors continued.

"Senator Kennedy will remain at Massachusetts General Hospital for the next couple of days according to routine protocol. He remains in good spirits and full of energy."

89 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  5/20/08 10:37:52 am
90 coquimbojoe  5/20/08 10:37:53 am reply quote

I have always wanted him to be out of our Government, but this is never the way I had wanted it to happen. I hope the best for him and his family at what must be a horribly difficult time.

91 debutaunt  5/20/08 10:38:00 am reply quote

re: #25 Shug

I need a new nickname.
Everybody thinks I'm a she

how about Brutus?

I always think of the Shug character in the Color Purple.

92 yma o hyd  5/20/08 10:38:07 am reply quote

re: #42 galloping granny

Terrible diagnosis - lets hope he and his family can get through this with dignity and with all the medical help available.

Prayers for him and his family.

93 Conservative in Liberal Hands  5/20/08 10:38:07 am reply quote

re: #87 the jinxmedic

May God give him the strength to fight this, but if that is not to be, please grant him freedom from physical pain and give him peace.

Amen!

94 galloping granny  5/20/08 10:38:16 am reply quote

re: #72 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Now how does this affect his Senatorship? Would he be required to step down and if so, who would replace him, or would a special election get called?

He is not required to step down. He might choose to, in which case the Governor of Massachusetts will appoint somebody to finish his term.

95 El matamoros  5/20/08 10:38:24 am reply quote

Im glad to see that only ONE post was deleted! Don't turn LGF into a SEWER! I can only imagine what KOS would look like if Bush had a brain tumor. For a man with so much family tragedy i hope only the best!

96 wahabicorridor  5/20/08 10:38:28 am reply quote

ach. This sucks. But there should be an enormous amount that can be done. I've had my brain operated on 3 times - the last time about 20 years and I'm sure there's been much progress since then.

God speed Senator, and may the Lord bless and keep you and your family.

97 Mazeman  5/20/08 10:38:32 am reply quote

Too bad for him and his family.

Lizards are nice folks. I just learned about this on a different board, and the comments were brutal. So I left. Much nicer tone here.

98 JammieWearingFool  5/20/08 10:38:36 am reply quote

My prayers go out in particular to his wife and kids.

I've been down this road enough times and know how difficult it will be for them.

99 Dianna  5/20/08 10:38:38 am reply quote

re: #82 Pawn of the Oppressor

He is a Catholic; that's a sin. I don't think he'd do that.

100 loppyd  5/20/08 10:38:44 am reply quote

re: #89 song_and_dance_man

A lot of states have laws that give the Governor power to appoint in the case of Senator resignations.

not sure how it works here in MA....

looking now

101 Kostya Lotz  5/20/08 10:38:51 am reply quote

Looks like I lost my liver bet.

102 MandyManners  5/20/08 10:38:52 am reply quote

Contrast this thread with the one at Huffpost about Tony Snow or VP Cheney.

103 Iron Fist  5/20/08 10:39:03 am reply quote

re: #54 Cygnus,

Imagine HuffPo if this were, say, Dick Cheney. Sometimes, if you can't say anything good, the best thing to do is remain silent.

OT,

This isn't good, either. The cost of ammo is going through the roof. Wah.

104 mongrel19  5/20/08 10:39:13 am reply quote

As most of us lizards have acknowledged, we don't care for his politics. But may he find peace (and his family comfort) in the coming days.

105 NoSubmission  5/20/08 10:39:17 am reply quote

I have a friend who survived brain cancer. It can be done.

106 docremulac  5/20/08 10:39:26 am reply quote

You probably won't see any people celebrating a man being struck with a horrible disease on this site. Non-progressives aren't motivated by a desire to see human suffering like progressives are.

Any leftists reading this, might want to look realistically at yourself if you've got the nerve. If this were somebody from the right like Cheney or Ann Coulter, think how happy you'd be right now, fantasizing about their pain and agony.

That's one of the main differences between us.

107 JustAVoter  5/20/08 10:39:34 am reply quote

I had hoped that relative silence from the media and others was a good sign and that all would be well. It appears I was sadly mistaken.

My best to Senator Kennedy and his family in this hard time. May God grant health, and if not health, peace.

108 Zooty Zoot  5/20/08 10:39:36 am reply quote

Particularly sad in view of what happened to his brothers, as well as his nephew, and various others in his family who have more than their fair share of hard knocks.

109 jcm  5/20/08 10:39:50 am reply quote

re: #72 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Now how does this affect his Senatorship? Would he be required to step down and if so, who would replace him, or would a special election get called?

Varies by state. Some have incapacitation clauses others only death. Either case the governor selects a person to fill out the term to the next election for that seat. Mass. Gov. is a (D) so should Kennedy need to be replaced no ramifications for the Senate.

110 Ward Cleaver  5/20/08 10:40:05 am reply quote

Wow, that is not good. A friend of mine recently passed away from brain cancer, which had spread from his neck. He only had a short period of remission. Also, being that June is a cancer survivor, and we still live with the specter of her cancer returning, I send my prayers to him and his family.

111 amphibian  5/20/08 10:40:07 am reply quote

Hm, bad thing. Of course we do not agree with all of Sen. Kennedy's views, but this is the time for hopes and prayers.

112 Carolyn  5/20/08 10:40:13 am reply quote

I wouldn't wish this on anyone.
I have seen a couple of people die with this cancer.

113 Ward Cleaver  5/20/08 10:40:28 am reply quote

re: #84 Conservative in Liberal Hands

His prognosis is not very good. Thoughts and prayers to his family!

Especially given his age.

114 experiencedtraveller  5/20/08 10:40:43 am reply quote
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Fight hard Teddy.

115 X-ray  5/20/08 10:41:03 am reply quote

Prayers for his speedy recovery.

116 mad_scientist  5/20/08 10:41:08 am reply quote

Doesnt sound good....

Treatment can involve chemotherapy, radiotherapy, and surgery, all of which are acknowledged as palliative measures, meaning that they do not provide a cure. Even with complete surgical resection of the tumor, combined with the best available treatment, the survival rate for GBM remains very low

117 cheeseweasel  5/20/08 10:41:10 am reply quote

God bless and save Sen. Kennedy in his time of need. Here's hoping his relatives and friends find strength.

118 jcm  5/20/08 10:41:12 am reply quote

re: #90 coquimbojoe

I have always wanted him to be out of our Government, but this is never the way I had wanted it to happen. I hope the best for him and his family at what must be a horribly difficult time.

I want him to back up his office and hand over the key to his office to a (R). Not this way, not for him, not for anyone.

119 lurking faith  5/20/08 10:41:13 am reply quote

re: #34 Nevergiveup

My best wishes go out to the Kennedy family. G-D knows they have had their share of tragedy. But I am a tad ticked already seeing liberal talking heads on TV already using this to plug their liberal agendas.


I agree. A man, their longtime ally, has a personal tragedy, and the first thing they think is "How can we use this?" No human feeling at all.

120 victor_yugo  5/20/08 10:41:29 am reply quote

Dear Teddy,

Get thee to Duke University.

STRAIGHT AWAY!

If anyone can halt this foul abomination, they can.

With hopes for your recovery,
victor_yugo.

121 iWatas  5/20/08 10:41:39 am reply quote

An absolutely terrible thing to happen to anyone. I echo all the words of sadness and sympathy posted here.

122 Endangered in MASS  5/20/08 10:41:46 am reply quote

re: #88 loppyd

Did the Mass Legislature strip the governor of his power to appoint replacement Senators? I recall discussion of it when it looked like Mitt might get to name Liveshots replacement.

Eitherway were're screwed.

123 Ward Cleaver  5/20/08 10:41:47 am reply quote

re: #109 jcm

Varies by state. Some have incapacitation clauses others only death. Either case the governor selects a person to fill out the term to the next election for that seat. Mass. Gov. is a (D) so should Kennedy need to be replaced no ramifications for the Senate.

Except that his replacement would be a freshman, and wouldn't have the seniority that Kennedy has.

124 Warm Mountain  5/20/08 10:41:55 am reply quote

Dang. He's not my favorite politician, but I would not wish brain cancer on him. My 23 year old brother died of an inoperable brain tumor, and his brief battle was agonizing for him and us. Senator Kennedy, I wish you good luck and a good fight against a devastating disease.

125 Shug  5/20/08 10:42:15 am reply quote

re: #97 Mazeman

Too bad for him and his family.

Lizards are nice folks. I just learned about this on a different board, and the comments were brutal. So I left. Much nicer tone here.


Class comes from the top down.

126 big L  5/20/08 10:42:26 am reply quote

maybe gov could name himself,if you know....he is a donk

127 bigpinkfluffybunny  5/20/08 10:42:27 am reply quote

My mother died from brain cancer over 20 years ago. I hope that there is some treatment, or somewhere that can help him, whether it is a cure or simply pain relief.

Will be hoping for the best for the Senator and his family.

128 carray  5/20/08 10:42:36 am reply quote

Prayers for him and his family. May he make his peace with his maker.

129 cannon2  5/20/08 10:42:36 am reply quote

don't like his tax and spend like a drunken sailor politics..
don't agree with his all encompassing nanny state socialist view of what this country should be
he's been there(washington) since 1962...waaaaayyyyy too long.
got there riding his borthers coattails....
wish he could have been trounced at the ballot box long ago....
hope he has to resign and live out his life outside politics...
believe the country would be better off whih him retired...

hope and pray for his recovery..as a person, he has my best wishes.

130 Conservative in Liberal Hands  5/20/08 10:42:38 am reply quote

re: #109 jcm

There are ramifications concerning ranking. The committee assignments and positions would be changed. Again, not much of a change except within Democratic party and the Senate.

131 Shug  5/20/08 10:42:44 am reply quote

re: #120 victor_yugo

Dear Teddy,

Get thee to Duke University. MD Anderson

STRAIGHT AWAY!

If anyone can halt this foul abomination, they can.

With hopes for your recovery,
victor_yugo.


/everything's better in Texas

132 Endangered in MASS  5/20/08 10:42:59 am reply quote

re: #98 JammieWearingFool

Ted has been down this road with his son who lost a leg to cancer at a young age.

133 Smashmaster  5/20/08 10:43:04 am reply quote

Poor bastard. That's all I got to say about that.

134 wahabicorridor  5/20/08 10:43:18 am reply quote

re: #119 lurking faith

their longtime ally, has a personal tragedy, and the first thing they think is "How can we use this?"

Remember Paul Wellstone's memorial service?

gotta hop.

135 Tigger2005[deleted]  5/20/08 10:43:20 am
136 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  5/20/08 10:43:29 am
137 IslandLibertarian  5/20/08 10:43:32 am reply quote

Very sad............My prayers for the Kennedy's.............Gods will be done.............

138 ted  5/20/08 10:43:41 am reply quote

He probably will step down. Symptoms are both mental and physical. Also Chemo and Radiation are devastating.

139 jcm  5/20/08 10:43:45 am reply quote

re: #123 Ward Cleaver

Except that his replacement would be a freshman, and wouldn't have the seniority that Kennedy has.

Dat true. Only Byrd is senior to Kennedy.

140 snowcrash  5/20/08 10:43:50 am reply quote

re: #120 victor_yugo
Boston has the Dana Farber Cancer Institute, really state of the art.

141 chicagodudewhotrades  5/20/08 10:43:57 am reply quote

Years ago I watched pancreatic cancer take my mom. Her cancer spread quickly through her body. Granted, pancreatic cancer is different then a cancerous brain tumor, but i wouldn't want anyone to go through this. Best wishes to Ted and his family

142 THorfin  5/20/08 10:44:14 am reply quote

A thought for the masses. Mitt Romney could run for the senate seat when it becomes vacant and win. Being appointed to a seat is not the same as being elected. How long is Teddies remaining term?

143 ted  5/20/08 10:44:37 am reply quote

re: #120 victor_yugo

Dear Teddy,

Get thee to Duke University.

STRAIGHT AWAY!

If anyone can halt this foul abomination, they can.

With hopes for your recovery,
victor_yugo.

Yes, my mom went there.

144 SalsaNChips  5/20/08 10:44:46 am reply quote

Prayers for Senator Kennedy and his family.

(BTW, the contrast of the comments here on LGF and other political blogs of a different persuasion, given an event of similar magnitude and opposite ideological circumstance, is striking.)

145 itellu3times  5/20/08 10:44:58 am reply quote

re: #142 THorfin

A thought for the masses. Mitt Romney could run for the senate seat when it becomes vacant and win. Being appointed to a seat is not the same as being elected. How long is Teddies remaining term?

Four years.

146 jcm  5/20/08 10:45:08 am reply quote

re: #142 THorfin

A thought for the masses. Mitt Romney could run for the senate seat when it becomes vacant and win. Being appointed to a seat is not the same as being elected. How long is Teddies remaining term?

His seat is up in '12.

147 realwest  5/20/08 10:45:09 am reply quote

I'm very sorry to hear this news. I do wish the Senator the finest in treatment and the fullest possible recovery.
My sympathies to his family.
BTW, as someone who is also suffering from cancer (albeit a completely different type than Senator Kennedy's) I've done a TON of research on cancer in general and I have to say that regardless of what doctors who are not HIS doctors may say, cancer is different with everyone - even the same type of cancer in the same location. So any "guesses" or quotes from medical manuals are just that; whether, when and how well Senator Kennedy will recover are totally up to his doctors, himself and the Lord.
Good luck Senator Kennedy, and may the Lord be with you.

148 ladycatnip  5/20/08 10:45:21 am reply quote

#29 dalejrfanfreak

Ya know, I hate to say it but if Kennedy was a Republican he'd probably have the left wing sites happy that he's got a tumor like they were happy that Tony Snow had cancer. I hope he gets better, even though I strongly disagree with his political policies.

What a stark difference between the left and the right. The comments here are uplifting and encouraging to a politician whose policies sicken most posters (with the exception of a few trolls); yet we're all praying for healing, comfort, and peace for Ted and his family.

When ill befalls a conservative, the left revel and party just like the Middle Easterners did at 9/11 and any other opportunity to celebrate death.

149 DistantThunder  5/20/08 10:45:29 am reply quote

He has a primary tumor meaning that it started in the brain, not somewhere else.

150 jcm  5/20/08 10:45:44 am reply quote

re: #145 itellu3times

re: #146 jcm

Dang, ya' beat me by ten seconds.
;-)

151 BGOH  5/20/08 10:45:52 am reply quote

A friend's grandmother just passed away on Sunday from a brain tumor. From what I was told, Steroids kept her comfortable, and although she was wheelchair bound because of it, she was up and around until her final weeks.

Here's to hoping that Ted can return to his work in the Senate. No matter how much we disagree with him on politics, it would be a sincere shame if he were not able to end his long career on his own terms.

152 vxbush  5/20/08 10:46:18 am reply quote

re: #149 DistantThunder

He has a primary tumor meaning that it started in the brain, not somewhere else.

Stupid question: How can they tell without looking for tumors everywhere else?

153 Gus205  5/20/08 10:46:27 am reply quote

Senator Kennedy,

Our best wishes go out to you and your family in this time.

Gus

154 Silhouette[deleted]  5/20/08 10:46:28 am
155 Endangered in MASS  5/20/08 10:46:36 am reply quote

re: #136 song_and_dance_man


Especially when the Mittster went on Howie Carr and told Howie he would get the nod.

156 NY Nana  5/20/08 10:46:43 am reply quote

re: #14 itellu3times

When I heard that he had 2 seizures, I had said that it may very well be a brain tumor...now I am waiting to hear what grade it is. That will give an idea as to how bad it is..a grade IV is the worst. Gliomas are in and of themselves about the worst kind of brain tumor.

157 realwest  5/20/08 10:46:43 am reply quote

re: #135 Tigger2005
Uh, you forgot the sarc tag there.

158 opnion  5/20/08 10:46:46 am reply quote

By definition there is no such thing as a good disese.
Cancer thogh is particularly loathsome.
Anybody who has dealt with cancer either personaly or family knows that.
The Senator has gotten awful news. I know that right now there has to be a great deal of fear. I do hope that he gets a good outcome.

159 itellu3times  5/20/08 10:46:55 am reply quote

re: #150 jcm

re: #146 jcm

Dang, ya' beat me by ten seconds.
;-)

more concise!

160 thedopefishlives  5/20/08 10:47:24 am reply quote

re: #152 vxbush

Stupid question: How can they tell without looking for tumors everywhere else?

They've figured out a way to identify what type of cancer cells are generated by the tumors, so that if the cell types "match", in a sense, they know that's the origin of the cancer.

161 MilkOfMalfeasance  5/20/08 10:47:27 am reply quote

I have had 2 people close to me in my life suffer and die from this. I would not wish this on anyone. What a terrible circumstance this is. I hope there is something they can do. Hope for the best everyone.

162 ted  5/20/08 10:47:30 am reply quote

re: #152 vxbush

GBM's rarely metastasize.

163 DistantThunder  5/20/08 10:47:32 am reply quote

Over the left ear - i wonder if it is related to cell phone use.

The last person to hold his senate seat was his brother, John F. Kennedy.

164 DesertSage  5/20/08 10:47:36 am reply quote

My father had a malignant brain tumor back in 1963. After they operated and removed it, they gave him 6 months to live.

He died in 1993.

165 winston06  5/20/08 10:48:02 am reply quote

I've no comment! :-D

166 Ward Cleaver  5/20/08 10:48:17 am reply quote

re: #131 Shug

/everything's better in Texas

I agree, M.D. Anderson.

/get on down to houston!

167 bosforus  5/20/08 10:48:31 am reply quote

Gotta run. Keep up the kind words. Dem or Rep he's an American, just like most of us, and he fights for what he believes will make America better, and those are the kinds of politicians America wants.

168 Perry  5/20/08 10:48:40 am reply quote

Gliomas are tendril-ish and seed into other areas. If it's operable, he could get symptom relief. Hearing that he might have chemo + radiation sounds like it might not be operable. In which case the chemo might be worse than present symptoms. Seizures caused by a tumor are not likely to be helped by anti-seizure meds.

Cancer be damned.

169 wordwarp[deleted]  5/20/08 10:48:44 am
170 Sharmuta[deleted]  5/20/08 10:48:50 am
171 brent  5/20/08 10:48:50 am reply quote

Lost a brother to cancer, and dad lost his bladder to it when I was in college - folks live where they do now because he didn't expect to survive.

All the best, to all the Kennedys.

172 Ward Cleaver  5/20/08 10:48:51 am reply quote

re: #164 DesertSage

My father had a malignant brain tumor back in 1963. After they operated and removed it, they gave him 6 months to live.

He died in 1993.

Wow, a miracle case.

173 Dianna  5/20/08 10:48:56 am reply quote

re: #152 vxbush

Not a stupid question at all, but I would suspect they've tested him extensively already.

174 Shug  5/20/08 10:49:06 am reply quote

re: #152 vxbush

Stupid question: How can they tell without looking for tumors everywhere else?

appearance on imaging.
biopsy to confirm

175 Nevergiveup  5/20/08 10:49:41 am reply quote

A Kennedy has been the US Senator from Mass. for the last 56 years. That is a long time. I am only 53 years old.

176 marjoriemoon  5/20/08 10:49:42 am reply quote

re: #105 NoSubmission

I have a friend who survived brain cancer. It can be done.

Yep. Me too. Funny story...

My g/f was released from the hospital in California with the side of her head shaved and a "crown" of staples down her head from above her ear to the base of her neck.

A friend took her for a cup of coffee at an outside cafe and as they were sipping their java, a young fella came up on his skateboard, sporting a mohawk, many tattoos and multiple piercings (lip, eyebrow, cheek) etc.

He takes one look at my g/f's staples and exclaims, "Whoa dude! Where'd ya get THAT!" LOL My g/f laughed and said, "St. Vincent."

Anyway... other than ringing in her ears and some equilibrium issues, she's doing very well. It depends on so many things. I'm sure Senator Kennedy will have the best of care. God bless him.

177 nyc redneck  5/20/08 10:49:55 am reply quote

how sad. this is a very tough diagnosis, he will need prayers.

178 ted  5/20/08 10:49:55 am reply quote

re: #163 DistantThunder

Over the left ear - i wonder if it is related to cell phone use.

The last person to hold his senate seat was his brother, John F. Kennedy.

No risk factors have ever been linked to GBM.

179 Ward Cleaver  5/20/08 10:50:13 am reply quote

re: #168 Perry

Gliomas are tendril-ish and seed into other areas. If it's operable, he could get symptom relief. Hearing that he might have chemo + radiation sounds like it might not be operable. In which case the chemo might be worse than present symptoms. Seizures caused by a tumor are not likely to be helped by anti-seizure meds.

Cancer be damned.

Chemo is not as bad as it used to be, but then he's 76 years old.

180 Perry  5/20/08 10:50:17 am reply quote

re: #152 vxbush

Cell type.

181 jcm  5/20/08 10:50:19 am reply quote

re: #159 itellu3times

more concise!

Speed wins!

182 vxbush  5/20/08 10:50:42 am reply quote

re: #174 Shug

appearance on imaging.
biopsy to confirm

Would the appearance be more dense, then? Sorry, just curious. I've looked at lots of CT scans of my son's brain, so I know a minuscule amount.

183 rorschach  5/20/08 10:50:43 am reply quote
#25 Shug

I need a new nickname.
Everybody thinks I'm a she

How about Shag. That's a decidedly male endeavor.

184 Ojoe  5/20/08 10:50:46 am reply quote

re: #163 DistantThunder

Could very well be.

I do not think cell phones are a very good idea.

185 DistantThunder  5/20/08 10:51:03 am reply quote

It's due to our advanced health care that we die from cancers and tend not to from flu and pneumonia, and other common things.

186 DesertSage  5/20/08 10:51:05 am reply quote

re: #172 Ward Cleaver

Wow, a miracle case.

Throughout the 30 years he lived after the tumor was removed he would often say, "what do the doctors know anyway? they're only human after all".

187 Son of the Black Dog  5/20/08 10:51:08 am reply quote

re: #142 THorfin

A thought for the masses. Mitt Romney could run for the senate seat when it becomes vacant and win. Being appointed to a seat is not the same as being elected. How long is Teddies remaining term?

In the cases I remember, the governor's appointment is only until the next regular election. So, were Kennedy to step down now, his appointed replacement might only be serving until the November election, depending on things like deadlines. The elected successor would then serve until the end of Kennedy's regular term. Also, the elected successor is sworn in immediately after the election, thus getting a leg up in terms of seniority.

188 Mazeman  5/20/08 10:51:20 am reply quote

re: #175 Nevergiveup

A Kennedy has been the US Senator from Mass. for the last 56 years. That is a long time. I am only 53 years old.

46 years.

189 nyc redneck  5/20/08 10:51:22 am reply quote

re: #149 DistantThunder

He has a primary tumor meaning that it started in the brain, not somewhere else.

and that is a problem.

190 Nemo  5/20/08 10:51:29 am reply quote

re: #154 Silhouette

Right. We've gotta to convince the left we are decent, thoughtful people before we can finally cut off all school lunch programs, deny seniors medicine, remove access to all medical care and finally, enslave them all.

Oh and I do hope Kennedy does recover. Although I do disagree with him on most of his political stands, he is a very smart and, although misguided imo, good man.

191 victor_yugo  5/20/08 10:51:31 am reply quote

re: #131 Shug

/everything's better in Texas

Duke U experimental treatment stopped the brain tumor of someone near and dear to me, after his own doc told him to get his affairs in order and prepare for the end.

This might also be a good time to pitch Folding@Home. I run it, and I suggest it to people who want their (own) computers not to be wasting CPU cycles.

192 Dianna  5/20/08 10:51:37 am reply quote

re: #170 Sharmuta

Are you testing for drunkenness?

193 Morganfrost  5/20/08 10:51:40 am reply quote

I wish him a speedy recovery (ok, I'll say it) to be followed promptly by a long and happy retirement.

194 Ojoe  5/20/08 10:52:05 am reply quote

re: #178 ted

What is "GBM"?

195 taxfreekiller  5/20/08 10:52:06 am reply quote

this is the same thing that got tfk's bud from nam back early this year
he had balance problems went to the big place in San Fran, they did cemo for a while , he told no one, once they said no use, he let every one know and called me to spend a week with him, he lasted two months, not good this,

Pray for a good thing for him.

196 ted  5/20/08 10:52:10 am reply quote

re: #176 marjoriemoon

Yep. Me too. Funny story...

My g/f was released from the hospital in California with the side of her head shaved and a "crown" of staples down her head from above her ear to the base of her neck.

A friend took her for a cup of coffee at an outside cafe and as they were sipping their java, a young fella came up on his skateboard, sporting a mohawk, many tattoos and multiple piercings (lip, eyebrow, cheek) etc.

He takes one look at my g/f's staples and exclaims, "Whoa dude! Where'd ya get THAT!" LOL My g/f laughed and said, "St. Vincent."

Anyway... other than ringing in her ears and some equilibrium issues, she's doing very well. It depends on so many things. I'm sure Senator Kennedy will have the best of care. God bless him.

It can, but GBM's have at most an average of 14 months survival.

197 Endangered in MASS  5/20/08 10:52:35 am reply quote

re: #175 Nevergiveup

Do you mean 46 years? He was first elected in1962.

198 opnion  5/20/08 10:52:40 am reply quote

re: #134 wahabicorridor

Remember Paul Wellstone's memorial service?

gotta hop.


The Wellstone Memorial Service was a disgrace that backfired.
There was whopping & hollering & partisan attacks. It cost them at the pollls.
I wish the Senator the best. If however it goes badly, I trust that his farewell will be dignified.

199 NY Nana  5/20/08 10:52:48 am reply quote

I lost my Dad zt'l to Ca. of the pancreas 25 years ago.

He fought a very brave battle against a foe that has not yet been vanquished, nor has the survival rate improved.

200 Vergeltung  5/20/08 10:53:00 am reply quote

re: #74 Kosh's Shadow

Well, there are some people I wish ill to. Amadmanonjihad, for example, and the various heads of Hamas. And Osama, even if he's already dead.
But Kennedy should have had a long, comfortable retirement. I hope he still can.
And I hope we elect a Republican in his place, although given Moonbattachusetts, that seems less likely than a quick and full recovery.

well, you know what I mean. most sane people would wish ill on Hitler, Stalin, etc., to the list of the evil men of history. but that is the exception, not the rule.

additionally, here in sane LGF-land, notice no hate-filled bile thrown at the sick man. contrast that with what is seen on the LLL sites re ill conservatives, etc.

'nuff said.

201 rusty_armor  5/20/08 10:53:09 am reply quote

Well, my own superstitions don't allow for gloating when an enemy falls ... I would have preferred that his constituents woke up and tossed his butt out of the Senate rather than see him go out this way.

Perhaps they will figure out a way to fight this.

202 S.P.E.C.T.R.E.  5/20/08 10:53:16 am reply quote

I think it goes without saying that most of us here on LGF parted ways with Sen. Kennedy on his political views long ago. However, this is not something you'd wish on anyone, even a tough political opponent, and I hope the best for Sen. Kennedy and his family.

203 Carolyn  5/20/08 10:53:45 am reply quote

The two people I knew were little guys, (7 and 3)
neither lived over a year from diagnosis.
It was the saddest thing I have ever witnessed.

It has been years since...but it still makes me cry.

204 CapeCoddah  5/20/08 10:53:46 am reply quote

Afternoon all, Sad news for the Senator, and my family, as I am sure all of yours are also, are sending our prayers and thoughts his way.
I have lived on the Cape all my life, and since I was old enough to vote, I have always had issues with the Senators political views, but, Having met the man many times, and he is always a gentleman in person, I am deeply saddened by this horrific news. No one deserves this diagnosis, and I wish the senator the very best, from the bottom of my heart. Best wishes Senator, We are ALL pulling for you.

205 Nevergiveup  5/20/08 10:53:53 am reply quote

re: #188 Mazeman

46 years.

JFK was elected to the US Senate in 1952.

206 jcm  5/20/08 10:53:57 am reply quote

re: #175 Nevergiveup

A Kennedy has been the US Senator from Mass. for the last 56 years. That is a long time. I am only 53 years old.

I was 2 years old when he was elected to the Senate.

I have a distinct memory of JFK's assassination. I'm riding on my dad's shoulders in a very busy noisy place. Then suddenly every one, and everything, all the noise just stopped. I told my dad that memory later and he said we where walking through Chicago's O'Hare when the announcement was made. One of my earliest memory is tied to the Kennedy's.

207 Nevergiveup  5/20/08 10:54:11 am reply quote

re: #197 Endangered in MASS

Do you mean 46 years? He was first elected in1962.

JFK was elected in 1952

208 Ward Cleaver  5/20/08 10:54:12 am reply quote

re: #163 DistantThunder

Over the left ear - i wonder if it is related to cell phone use.

The last person to hold his senate seat was his brother, John F. Kennedy.

Actually, the last person to hold it was an appointee, Benjamin A. Smith II, from 1961 until 1963. Ted didn't turn 30 until 1962, so he wasn't eligible to run for the Senate until then.

209 Taqyia2Me  5/20/08 10:54:17 am reply quote

My hopes and prayers go out to Sen Kennedy and his family. May he always be able to look to his Baptism for his salvation by Grace.

210 DistantThunder  5/20/08 10:54:32 am reply quote

I'm posting on a new women's liberal website Women on the Web

It's very liberal and I'm getting attacked for saying Obama is a marxist - they say it's hyperbole. heh.

211 thedopefishlives  5/20/08 10:54:44 am reply quote

re: #167 bosforus

Gotta run. Keep up the kind words. Dem or Rep he's an American, just like most of us, and he fights for what he believes will make America better, and those are the kinds of politicians America wants.

There is one comment I'd like to make about the Senator: I do not agree with his political views, but I am certain everyone here can attest that the man was dogged in pursuing what he believed in. Left or right, THAT'S what this country needs, not more flip-flopping wishy-washy types. Kennedy was a man you either agreed with or disagreed with, no two ways about it. You knew where he stood, and that means something, even if he stood on the wrong side sometimes. (Okay, most of the time. ;)

212 ted  5/20/08 10:54:59 am reply quote

re: #194 Ojoe

What is "GBM"?

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

213 Tamron  5/20/08 10:55:04 am reply quote

Well, at any rate Teddy has had a controversial life, and he hasn't been a wallflower. Not that I care for his leftist leanings (for the record, someone should compile a full summary of every issue that he's ever supported or opposed), but he's certainly had the persistence to have his day in the sun, over and over again.

This kind of tumor/seizure is almost impossible to recover from, especially if you're not young and fit.

Off-Topic:

--Did anyone see Bobby Kennedy Jr. on David Letterman the other night? He's an impressive individual who seems to be well-informed on a variety of subjects. I especially appreciated his take on alternative energy, and the necessity of doing away with our independence on foreign suppliers. Very well said.

Honestly, I don't know what the total Iraq cost is by now -- I remember seeing Cheney being interviewed several years ago and he was adamantly insisting that Iraq DID NOT cost the $130 billion figure that the interviewer was quoting, and now lately that figure is supposedly up in the trillions of dollars.

Geez, if we'd have economized on expenses regarding Halliburton, etc. and been able to pump one-third or one-half of that total into R&D of alternative energy (or releasing and utilizing the already-existing patents on such, etc.), we'd be a LOT better off today. Even adjusting for inflation, if the original Manhattan Project cost approximately five billion dollars back in the 1940's, then what -- in today's dollars -- could a trillion dollars do, towards clean and safe and renewable energy for the broad public?

If this energy-shortage (caused by deliberately high prices) crap keeps up, then one of our biggest white elephant problems will be getting rid of all of the millions and millions of old V8 gas-guzzlers around the country. Over $100 to fill up the gas tank? Nobody wants 'em any more! Crush them all, and have Toyota turn them into electric cars?

What Say You......
.

214 Perry  5/20/08 10:55:04 am reply quote

re: #179 Ward Cleaver

Yes, depending on the agent. And palliatives are much better too. But it's still true that chemo agents are in general formualted to kill rapidly replicating cells like cancers, GI tract lining, hair.

215 Thanos  5/20/08 10:55:15 am reply quote

Senator Kennedy will probably get the similar treatment to that given Jerry Pournelle, you can follow his travails the past three months over at his blog, [Link: www.jerrrypournelle.com...]

He had some interesting symptoms while they were basically frying part of his brain, but seems to be recovering pretty well.

I wish the Senator best of luck recovering, but he's not as healthy as Jerry was going in, and his liver is probably not in as good shape as Jerry's, which is important to recovery.

That said, the radiation therapy might not be the path taken in the Senator's case.

216 Dad O' Blondes  5/20/08 10:55:18 am reply quote

Unfortunate and terrible diagnosis for Sen. Kennedy.

I wish him and his family the best under these difficult circumstances.

.

217 jetpilot1101  5/20/08 10:55:25 am reply quote

I am no fan of Senator Kennedy's politics but I sincerely hope he overcomes and beats this cancer. You will be in my prayers senator. God bless.

218 rcris5  5/20/08 10:55:26 am reply quote

Sad enough for those who are close to him, I sympathize with the family. But what a destructive legacy for the country this man has left for my children.

219 wolfie  5/20/08 10:55:53 am reply quote

re: #34 Nevergiveup

My best wishes go out to the Kennedy family. G-D knows they have had their share of tragedy. But I am a tad ticked already seeing liberal talking heads on TV already using this to plug their liberal agendas.

For the left, everything is politics and there is nothing outside of politics...to paraphrase Mussolini. The chief distinction between the left and the rest of us is not that they are natural slimeballs and we are natural angels. It is that they have developed within themselves a totalitarian mindset that does not admit the purely personal, the private, or the transcendent.
There is no "problem" or no subject they believe to be outside the purview of state control. And there is likewise nothing than ought not to be politicized.

220 keefe  5/20/08 10:55:55 am reply quote

My Dad bought it this way. 10 months.

I was able to spend a month with him during the last summer. Instead of contract bridge, we played tile rummy.

He had a chance to wrap things up and say goodbye, for which I've always been grateful.

I imagine the politics are done now, and I hope the senator and his family is given the same chance.

221 loppyd  5/20/08 10:56:12 am reply quote

re: #122 Endangered in MASS

Did the Mass Legislature strip the governor of his power to appoint replacement Senators? I recall discussion of it when it looked like Mitt might get to name Liveshots replacement.

Eitherway were're screwed.

MA changed the law while Liveshot was running for president.

There would be a special election.

US Senate site


The 17th Amendment to the Constitution (1913) established direct election of senators, as well as a means of filling vacant Senate seats. If a vacancy occurs due to a senator's death, resignation, or expulsion, the 17th Amendment allows state legislatures to empower the governor to appoint a replacement to complete the term or to hold office until a special election can take place. There are a few exceptions to this rule. The states of Oregon, Wisconsin and Massachusetts do not allow the governor to appoint, but rather require special elections to fill a vacancy.
222 Endangered in MASS  5/20/08 10:56:22 am reply quote

re: #207 Nevergiveup


Your are correct. I did not read your post carefully enough. My bad.

223 CapeCoddah  5/20/08 10:56:24 am reply quote

If the Governor of Massachusetts has to appoint someone to take the Senators seat, it will most assuredly be his nephew, Joe, who is Bobbys son.

224 galloping granny  5/20/08 10:56:32 am reply quote

re: #179 Ward Cleaver

Chemo is not as bad as it used to be, but then he's 76 years old.

76 is the new 40. My Dad was still riding a motorcycle at 76. And 79.

225 Cygnus  5/20/08 10:56:36 am reply quote

re: #80 chinesearithmetic

What tragic news. I will pray for him.

Please do. I knew somebody several years who was healed of brain tumors. She went in for an MRI a few days after being prayed for and the tumors were completely gone! It's truly amazing what God can do.

226 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  5/20/08 10:56:43 am
227 schultzw  5/20/08 10:57:14 am reply quote

Sad news indeed...prayers are with him. I'm proud that us LGF folks haven't stooped to the level of some of our counterparts on the left, but let's not toot our own horns and be self-righteous.

228 Endangered in MASS  5/20/08 10:57:33 am reply quote

re: #221 loppyd

I digress, we're screwed.

229 misfit138  5/20/08 10:57:40 am reply quote

Lost my mother and father-in-law to a brain tumor. Wouldn't even wish it on my worst enemy. This is a time where one pray for one of this country's leaders in his family's time of need - agree w/ his politcs or not.

Attn. Trolls from Kos or HuffPo: This is how to act like a grown up. Please note for future reference.

230 Thanos  5/20/08 10:57:47 am reply quote

Bleh,

Corrected link for Jerry Pournelle's journal

231 realwest  5/20/08 10:57:51 am reply quote

re: #196 ted Are you a doctor? More specifically, an oncologist or brain surgeon?
I'd humbly suggest that you read my #147 above.

232 itellu3times  5/20/08 10:57:56 am reply quote

re: #213 Tamron

Re energy, a trivial amount of government money could probably get the oil shale into production in a few years, not renewable but good for a couple of centuries, and it would nail oil prices well below $100/barrel for the next decade while we work on fancier stuff.

233 formercorpsman  5/20/08 10:57:59 am reply quote

This is sad.

Very sad.

No matter what, cancer knows no politics. It is an equal oppurtunist.
I wish him, and his family well. This will be difficult.

234 galloping granny  5/20/08 10:58:03 am reply quote

re: #196 ted

It can, but GBM's have at most an average of 14 months survival.

Probably the #1 thing that Ted has going for him right now is that he gets top of the line medical care so they caught this very early.

235 patrickafir  5/20/08 10:58:04 am reply quote

Jeez, poor guy. What a horrible tragedy for him and his family. I can only hope that he'll be as comfortable and in as good spirits as possible. I dislike his politics, but I salute him as one American to another. If I was a drinking man, I'd raise a glass of Chivas to the old bastard. Godspeed, Ted.

236 Son of the Black Dog  5/20/08 10:58:08 am reply quote

re: #185 DistantThunder

It's due to our advanced health care that we die from cancers and tend not to from flu and pneumonia, and other common things.

People should think about this before they go fooling around with our country's health care system. The system isn't as broken as some would have you believe, and many of the aspects that do create disfunction are the result of government interference in the process.

237 JammieWearingFool  5/20/08 10:58:25 am reply quote

I noted the other day on the Kennedy thread that I'd crossed paths with him several times on the Cape, and while we oviously have our disagreements, he's still a personable guy with a sense of humor. Politics oftens blinds us to the fact we're all human and have our faults.

Was with my mother that day and she still has fond memories of his brothers and had known both of them at various times back in the 60s. Ted reminds me quite a bit of one of my uncles, not necessarily politically, but they bear a resemblance and are the same age.

This is just another reminder of their mortality.

238 Moody leo  5/20/08 10:58:50 am reply quote

I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy. I've taken care of several patients with brain tumors or cancer and it isn't pretty. Praying for him and family.

Now we know what some of the trouble with speech he had, and the problems with balance.

239 Lawrence Schmerel  5/20/08 10:58:53 am reply quote

I hope Ted Kennedy will be okay.

(It would have to be the left side.)

241 snowcrash  5/20/08 10:59:49 am reply quote

"There but for the grace of God go I." Only kind thoughts and prayers for Ted and his family at this time.

242 harrylook  5/20/08 11:00:20 am reply quote

Perhaps others have mentioned it (I haven't read all comments yet), but though I disagree with Sen. Kennedy's politics, there is no denying he is a fantastic representative of the people of my state. It is easy to find people he has personally assisted over the years. In fact, it appears to be his mission in life.

I hope he pulls through, b/c the other guy - Just For Kerry as even Democrats know him around these parts - is useless.

243 Endangered in MASS  5/20/08 11:00:24 am reply quote

re: #221 lopped

The wannabe K-Mart Kennedy hack salons must already be circling like vultures yet not appear to be too macabre.

244 JammieWearingFool  5/20/08 11:00:43 am reply quote

re: #221 loppyd

Correct.

Were he to resign or die in office, state law requires a special election for the seat no sooner than 145 days and no later than 160 days after the vacancy occurs.
245 loppyd  5/20/08 11:00:54 am reply quote

re: #223 CapeCoddah

If the Governor of Massachusetts has to appoint someone to take the Senators seat, it will most assuredly be his nephew, Joe, who is Bobbys son.

Cadillac Deval will have no say. There would be a special election.

246 Shug  5/20/08 11:01:27 am reply quote

re: #147 realwest

I have to agree completely with this statement.....and RW, you know I am in the know on these subjects.

I pray senator Kennedy has 1/10 the strength you have shown....and he will do well no matter what the outcome

247 Kosh's Shadow  5/20/08 11:01:27 am reply quote

re: #200 Vergeltung

well, you know what I mean. most sane people would wish ill on Hitler, Stalin, etc., to the list of the evil men of history. but that is the exception, not the rule.

additionally, here in sane LGF-land, notice no hate-filled bile thrown at the sick man. contrast that with what is seen on the LLL sites re ill conservatives, etc.

'nuff said.

I know what you meant, yes. I sometimes question the humanity of the real evil people.
Teddy is human. Flawed, which is part of being human, but I wouldn't say he deserves this. But then, I'm not the being doing the judging, and worse things have happened to far more innocent people.

248 ted  5/20/08 11:01:43 am reply quote

re: #231 realwest

Are you a doctor? More specifically, an oncologist or brain surgeon?
I'd humbly suggest that you read my #147 above.

I am a doctor.

249 joecitizen  5/20/08 11:01:48 am reply quote

"I gaze into the doorway of temptations angry flame,
and every time I pass that way I always hear my name.."

250 alegrias  5/20/08 11:01:49 am reply quote

Senator Kennedy has my respect for bravely trying to unseat the horrid President Carter during the democrats' presidential primaries in 1980.

Ted Kennedy tried to intervene & end the Carter Administration and our nation's long nightmare vis-a-vis Iran but failed to capture the nomination from Carter.

Teddy Kennedy tried to enact what his older brothers Jack or Robert might have tried to enact, had they lived.

251 secretfire  5/20/08 11:01:50 am reply quote

Lord have mercy on this man and heal him. Take all of the cancer away, every part, and give him a long and fruitful life.

There is something profoundly humbling about standing at the threshold of this life and what is beyond. Whatever the rightness or wrongness of our political beliefs, we are all fragile, stumbling creatures, with more folly than wisdom. May the good-hearted God of all mercy have compassion on all of us, including Ted Kennedy.

252 realwest  5/20/08 11:02:18 am reply quote

re: #246 Shug Thank you, my friend.

253 eschew_obfuscation  5/20/08 11:02:26 am reply quote

re: #213 Tamron

If this energy-shortage (caused by deliberately high prices) crap keeps up, then one of our biggest white elephant problems will be getting rid of all of the millions and millions of old V8 gas-guzzlers around the country. Over $100 to fill up the gas tank? Nobody wants 'em any more! Crush them all, and have Toyota turn them into electric cars?

What Say You......
.

The only thing 'deliberate' about gas prices is the tax that is levied on gas.

254 lurking faith  5/20/08 11:02:30 am reply quote

re: #176 marjoriemoon

Love your story.

255 Cygnus[deleted]  5/20/08 11:02:31 am
256 Lightning_Man  5/20/08 11:03:02 am reply quote

I add my sympathies to him and his family and I commend the lizard army for being the adults I've always known you are .

257 lawhawk  5/20/08 11:03:06 am reply quote

Since we're talking about political repercussions of Kennedy's ailment, consider that he is one of Obama's biggest backers. This is going to have an effect on what goes on with the nomination and back room dealings all the way to the convention and beyond. As a serious power broker, Kennedy was pushing Obama's candidacy in a big way. Now, it will be interesting to see who picks up the slack.

258 Dr. Shalit  5/20/08 11:03:09 am reply quote

At age 76, the stroke being a joke, but THE TUMOR - NO RUMOR, may G-d guide the hands of his physicians.

-S-

259 ted  5/20/08 11:03:10 am reply quote

Also, my mom died of a GBM.

260 Yankee Division Son  5/20/08 11:03:19 am reply quote

While I've disagreed with Ted on just about every political issue, and voted against him every chance I've had, I would not wish this on anyone. My Dad died of an inoperable brain tumor, watching it was, in a word, horrific.

Thoughts and prayers to him, and especially to his family.

261 NotTheMomma  5/20/08 11:03:39 am reply quote

Pushing all I know and think about him to the side, I hope he recovers, and I wish him the best. Honest.
Having said that.
Can you imagine the hatred that would come out from the left blogosphere if this were anyone with an (R) next to their name?
I honestly can not find an unkind word about Mr. Kennedy on any conservative blog. None.

262 joecitizen  5/20/08 11:04:02 am reply quote

"I am hangimg in the balance of the reality of Man,
like every sparrow falling,like every grain of sand.."

263 goforbroke  5/20/08 11:04:03 am reply quote

I can't help think and picture the get together with the inlaws, namely Arnold! The Arnold says "It's not a toomma"!

On a serious note, I hope the Senator all the best.

264 Nekama  5/20/08 11:04:04 am reply quote

Regardless of whether we like their politics we should all wish the Kennedy family our sincerest prayers for recovery and peace.

They have given this country their best; the least we can do is wish them the same.

BTW, I'm proud of my fellow Lizards on this thread.

265 realwest  5/20/08 11:04:24 am reply quote

re: #248 ted Do you disagree with what I said in #147?

266 galloping granny  5/20/08 11:04:24 am reply quote

Is anyone besides me irritated by the Fox news coverage of this matter that keeps repeating Ted Kennedy's support for Obama? Almost seems like shilling for Obama to me.

267 Spiny Norman  5/20/08 11:04:38 am reply quote

Such terrible news.

268 MilkOfMalfeasance  5/20/08 11:04:40 am reply quote

re: #77 JammieWearingFool

Wiki can time travel. I have seen where they have rewritten history many many times.

269 sffilk  5/20/08 11:05:16 am reply quote
270 Endangered in MASS  5/20/08 11:05:20 am reply quote

re: #250 alegrias

"Teddy Kennedy tried to enact what his older brothers Jack or Robert might have tried to enact, had they lived"

Bobby maybe. Jack no way.JFK was more conservative than most of the current Republican Congressman and Senators.

271 pschne54  5/20/08 11:05:29 am reply quote

Just think if we had the socialized medical system Teddy wants us all to have (not for him ,of course). He might have to wait 6 months for his chemotherapy and radiation.

272 Nevergiveup  5/20/08 11:05:37 am reply quote

re: #250 alegrias

Senator Kennedy has my respect for bravely trying to unseat the horrid President Carter during the democrats' presidential primaries in 1980.

Ted Kennedy tried to intervene & end the Carter Administration and our nation's long nightmare vis-a-vis Iran but failed to capture the nomination from Carter.

Teddy Kennedy tried to enact what his older brothers Jack or Robert might have tried to enact, had they lived.

I am not so sure I agree with your synopsis of Ted Kennedy's career. I think he moved far to the left of at least JFK's positions. As for trying to unseat Carter, I am not so sure if it was for personal or political reasons? And knowing how bad Carter was, why he would support Obama is beyond me.

273 victor_yugo  5/20/08 11:05:51 am reply quote

re: #247 Kosh's Shadow

Teddy is human. Flawed, which is part of being human, but I wouldn't say he deserves this.

He deserves it no more than we; we deserve it no less than he. We are all equally flawed.

274 GGMac  5/20/08 11:06:05 am reply quote

Separating politics from our common humanity, as we all teeter on the edge of unknown possibilities on our mortal trek: prayers for Teddy, and for those who love him...

275 bolivar  5/20/08 11:06:06 am reply quote

I lost my Dad to brain cancer so I know what he will be going thru. Most on this thread are far more charitable about Teddy than I can manage. He has done some disgraceful things and I just cannot say anything nice so I won't say anything other than I hope his family can find peace.

276 loppyd  5/20/08 11:06:08 am reply quote

re: #243 Endangered in MASS

The wannabe K-Mart Kennedy hack salons must already be circling like vultures yet not appear to be too macabre.

Short list of Dems:

Capuano
Tierney
Delahunt
Markey
Harshbarger
Tollman

Short list of Republicans

Bruce Tarr
Scott Brown
?
?
?

277 jcm  5/20/08 11:06:08 am reply quote

re: #221 loppyd

Did not know that, just assumed they all did the same thing.
That makes Teddy stepping down a little more problematic. Won't Swing the Senate, but will impact some committees.

278 MarineMomSue  5/20/08 11:06:20 am reply quote

re: #109 jcm

Varies by state. Some have incapacitation clauses others only death. Either case the governor selects a person to fill out the term to the next election for that seat. Mass. Gov. is a (D) so should Kennedy need to be replaced no ramifications for the Senate.

He is a super delegate, isn't he?

If he steps down from the Senate, does that effect his status as a super delegate?

Also does anybody know if a super delegate has to be physically present at the convention to cast his/her official vote?

279 Just sayin...  5/20/08 11:06:33 am reply quote

He may be a horrible old liberal whom I thoroughly with, but I wish the old guy well. Nobody deserves this. My prayers go out to Ted and his family.

280 victor_yugo  5/20/08 11:06:35 am reply quote

re: #263 goforbroke

I can't help think and picture the get together with the inlaws, namely Arnold! The Arnold says "It's not a toomma"!

I thought that was Kindergarten Cop, where he answered the oncologist's kid.

281 loppyd  5/20/08 11:07:17 am reply quote

re: #270 Endangered in MASS

"Teddy Kennedy tried to enact what his older brothers Jack or Robert might have tried to enact, had they lived"

Bobby maybe. Jack no way.JFK was more conservative than most of the current Republican Congressman and Senators.

Moonbats get very upset when presented with such facts.

282 patriot62  5/20/08 11:07:36 am reply quote

I agree with Senator Kennedy on nothing, but I wish Senator Kennedy a complete and speedy recovery. Sad news indeed.

283 monkey den  5/20/08 11:07:58 am reply quote

Seriously, contrast the well wishes here with what you see from those psychos over at Kos. A whole different grade of person.

284 wolfie  5/20/08 11:08:02 am reply quote

re: #272 Nevergiveup

I am not so sure I agree with your synopsis of Ted Kennedy's career. I think he moved far to the left of at least JFK's positions. As for trying to unseat Carter, I am not so sure if it was for personal or political reasons? And knowing how bad Carter was, why he would support Obama is beyond me.

He opposed Carter from the left.

285 Tricky Dick  5/20/08 11:08:15 am reply quote

OT

Congress' Approval Rating Ties Lowest in Gallup Records

Thats' 11 points lower than Bush's rating.

286 loppyd  5/20/08 11:08:24 am reply quote

re: #277 jcm

Did not know that, just assumed they all did the same thing.
That makes Teddy stepping down a little more problematic. Won't Swing the Senate, but will impact some committees.

MA changed the law while Kerry was running for president because they were convinced Kerry would win and knew Mitt Romney would appoint a Republican.

287 Kenneth  5/20/08 11:08:33 am reply quote

Wow! What a contrast between the respectful comments here at LGF expressing sympathy and compassion for Ted Kennedy & his family as compared to the vile rants at Daily Kos when Cheney had heart trouble.

That says a lot.

I add my prayers for Senator Kennedy & his family.

288 SusanL  5/20/08 11:08:34 am reply quote

My prayers for his family. I may not care for his politics, but as said above, he is a fellow human and as such deserves our best wishes.

S

289 ted  5/20/08 11:08:36 am reply quote

re: #147 realwest

I'm very sorry to hear this news. I do wish the Senator the finest in treatment and the fullest possible recovery.
My sympathies to his family.
BTW, as someone who is also suffering from cancer (albeit a completely different type than Senator Kennedy's) I've done a TON of research on cancer in general and I have to say that regardless of what doctors who are not HIS doctors may say, cancer is different with everyone - even the same type of cancer in the same location. So any "guesses" or quotes from medical manuals are just that; whether, when and how well Senator Kennedy will recover are totally up to his doctors, himself and the Lord.
Good luck Senator Kennedy, and may the Lord be with you.

I agree totally with you rw, but GBM is tough. I have muscular dystrophy. My docs told me I wouldn't make 30. I'll be 53yo Thursday. We always keep hope alive. Every day is a gift

290 ghost707  5/20/08 11:08:39 am reply quote

Read that he will be doing chemotherapy.
My father went through that before he died.

I feel for anyone that has to go through that.

291 lurking faith  5/20/08 11:08:46 am reply quote

re: #215 Thanos

Jerry Pournelle has brain cancer? I had no idea.

That stinks.

292 Grok the Fullness  5/20/08 11:09:00 am reply quote

So, they'll try to move Patrick into his old man's spot?

293 DanceswithElvis  5/20/08 11:09:08 am reply quote

Poor man. I'd not wish this on anyone. Hopefully they can treat it and get rid of it.

294 opnion  5/20/08 11:09:19 am reply quote

re: #236 Son of the Black Dog

People should think about this before they go fooling around with our country's health care system. The system isn't as broken as some would have you believe, and many of the aspects that do create disfunction are the result of government interference in the process.

Good point. We have the finest medical delivery system in the world
Affordability is our issue. However if the system is nationalised it will actually cost more in total dollars.
Look at Canada , rationing and late year budgets being blown

295 loppyd  5/20/08 11:09:20 am reply quote

re: #292 Grok the Fullness

So, they'll try to move Patrick into his old man's spot?

Can't. He's not a MA resident.

296 Eowyn2  5/20/08 11:09:36 am reply quote

re: #25 Shug

I need a new nickname.
Everybody thinks I'm a she

how about Brutus?

you're a pitbull?

you're a backstabber?

et tu?

297 tonysdca  5/20/08 11:09:49 am reply quote

re: #131 Shug

Yes, MD Anderson is where I would want to go in the case of the big CA

298 sifty  5/20/08 11:09:50 am reply quote

Here's hoping that he does well.

299 Abu Al-Poopypants  5/20/08 11:10:16 am reply quote

Out of deference to Ted I have removed the link to the photoshopped image that makes fun of him that I've been using as my LGF "web site" link for a few years.

300 Endangered in MASS  5/20/08 11:10:26 am reply quote

re: #276 loppyd

D- Joe Kennedy
Marty Meehan


R- Oganowski
Mittster- Although the backlash for abandoning us to Deval is considerable. At least for me anyway.

301 realwest  5/20/08 11:10:54 am reply quote

re: #289 ted I'm very sorry to hear that you have muscular dystrophy and couldn't agree more that every day is a gift.
I hope God continues to bless you and that you live to be 100!

302 cod_is_great  5/20/08 11:11:00 am reply quote

My daughter had a seizure last year. She turned out OK, but while she was being tested this was by far my biggest unspoken fear.

Best wishes.

303 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  5/20/08 11:11:23 am reply quote

This is a real shame. My dad passed away from a brain tumor - six years ago today, as a matter of fact. Will keep Senator Jennedy in my prayers.

304 cheesehead  5/20/08 11:11:36 am reply quote

The prognosis is probably not good if it is a glioblastoma tumor. My Mom was taken to the hospital after having seizures at home, was diagnosed with a stage 4 glioblastoma tumor and died exactly 30 days after being admitted to the hospital. It's a very aggressive cancer. I wish him well.

305 wolfie  5/20/08 11:11:36 am reply quote

re: #285 Tricky Dick

OT

Congress' Approval Rating Ties Lowest in Gallup Records

Thats' 11 points lower than Bush's rating.

You can bet there won't be any headlines in the MSM about this! They are constantly telling Americans that everybody hates Bush.........but they NEVER tell us everybody hates Congress even more.
Turn the page. Nothing to see here.

306 harrylook  5/20/08 11:11:37 am reply quote

re: #257 lawhawk

Since we're talking about political repercussions of Kennedy's ailment, consider that he is one of Obama's biggest backers. This is going to have an effect on what goes on with the nomination and back room dealings all the way to the convention and beyond. As a serious power broker, Kennedy was pushing Obama's candidacy in a big way. Now, it will be interesting to see who picks up the slack.

Good point, lawhawk. It might said that Kennedy's endorsement was what really pushed BHO ahead of Cackle. I don't think anyone can pick up the slack, but maybe it will create a sort of sympathy vote for BHO.

307 Pawn of the Oppressor  5/20/08 11:11:47 am reply quote

re: #213 Tamron


What Say You......

I say that we should insist that the guys who start wars as geopolitical pet projects should take a direct stake in paying for them. Maybe then they wouldn't have bright ideas about blowing people up without thinking it through very carefully.

It should be pointed out to the Executives with their finger on the national trigger that it would actually save money in the long run to unhook from current energy policies. Unfortunately, Uranium miners don't have enough money to pay for Presidential Libraries.

308 victor_yugo  5/20/08 11:11:55 am reply quote

re: #290 ghost707

Read that he will be doing chemotherapy.
My father went through that before he died.

I feel for anyone that has to go through that.

My mom went through it, and lived (although the chemo itself nearly killed her).

As she says repeatedly, it's a crap shoot. Your only option to stay in control is not to fight it; beyond that, it's a gamble.

309 MikeMelb  5/20/08 11:11:59 am reply quote

Oh dear, this is awful. I hope that he and family can come to terms with it and find some peace.

310 Dahveed  5/20/08 11:11:59 am reply quote

I am so sorry to hear this news. I certainly wish only the best for Senator Kennedy and his family. Like his politics or don't like his politics. I believe Senator Kennedy is a patriot and wants nothing but the best for his country. I hope in the time he has left he realizes he did make a difference.

311 Rogue198[deleted]  5/20/08 11:12:20 am
312 Sounder  5/20/08 11:12:45 am reply quote

God Bless him and his family. I wish for the best.

313 Logic  5/20/08 11:12:50 am reply quote

What a frightening thing for anyone to have to face. I wish him courage and peace.

314 Tigger2005  5/20/08 11:13:02 am reply quote

re: #157 realwest

Uh, you forgot the sarc tag there.

LOL my first deleted post EVER! Sorry Charles, just a lil tongue in cheek humor there.

315 alegrias  5/20/08 11:13:03 am reply quote

re: #270 Endangered in MASS

"Teddy Kennedy tried to enact what his older brothers Jack or Robert might have tried to enact, had they lived"

Bobby maybe. Jack no way.JFK was more conservative than most of the current Republican Congressman and Senators.

* * *

Who knows! Robert Kennedy worked with conservatives early on, but then became more liberal; Jack Kennedy may have been conservative as many hawkish dems were early on, but may have ended up liberal also. Or not.

Either way they all meant well.

316 goforbroke  5/20/08 11:13:06 am reply quote

Sorry for the small bit of levity in 263. Sheesh this is a tough crowd!

317 SusanL  5/20/08 11:13:10 am reply quote

My friend Nanci's daughter died from brain cancer. It was an awful, long, drawn out process that almost destroyed her family.

318 mcclain  5/20/08 11:13:12 am reply quote

A moment to consider the nature of the normative LGF reader (normative conservative) here -- over 300 posts thus far, and all expressing genuinely heartfelt care and compassion for the situation of a political advesary. Contrast w/ the vitroil we find on the other side. What be more telling...

319 Wargalas  5/20/08 11:13:20 am reply quote

Well I guess that explains why he supports Obama.

Now here comes the hate mail. :)

320 ted  5/20/08 11:13:26 am reply quote

re: #231 realwest

I admire you for your strength, intellect and toughness. You are an example and a gift to LGF.

321 loppyd  5/20/08 11:13:28 am reply quote

re: #300 Endangered in MASS

D- Joe Kennedy
Marty Meehan


R- Oganowski
Mittster- Although the backlash for abandoning us to Deval is considerable. At least for me anyway.

Marty must be agonizing now that he took that "job" at Umass.

Forgot about JOE 4 OIL. Sympathy vote.

Oganowski is already running against Kerry, though.....

I thought about Mitt, but I think he would hold out to see if he gets the nod for VP from McCain

322 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  5/20/08 11:13:54 am
323 turn  5/20/08 11:13:54 am reply quote

Oh no, this is not good.

I've sure seen my share of brain tumors. There was, what I still believe to be true today, a cluster of brain tumors at the company I used to work for way back when in West Sacramento. Two of my immediate supervisors wasted away and died from them along with an office accountant and a shop worker. That's three men and one woman from the same plant.

I wouldn't be lying if I told you I have a little fear I could be next. The water in West Sac sucked big time, who knows what bad chemicals could have been in it. But I believe the cluster may have been due to exposure to some really bad chemicals being used in production back in the day. Guys used to wipe down units with MEK soaked rags all day long with no significant ventilation or respirators not to mention the vinyl glue and isocyanate's.

I surely hope this works out different for the Kennedy's than what I've experienced.

324 wolfie  5/20/08 11:13:59 am reply quote

re: #290 ghost707

Read that he will be doing chemotherapy.
My father went through that before he died.

I feel for anyone that has to go through that.


I probably wouldn't bother.
But Teddy is a fighter, I think, so this doesn't surprise me.
I'm rooting for him.

325 Lightning_Man  5/20/08 11:14:12 am reply quote

re: #316 goforbroke

Sorry for the small bit of levity in 263. Sheesh this is a tough crowd!

Had a good friend of my wife's die of brain cancer. Hard to get a laugh in.

326 ted  5/20/08 11:14:17 am reply quote

re: #301 realwest

I'm very sorry to hear that you have muscular dystrophy and couldn't agree more that every day is a gift.
I hope God continues to bless you and that you live to be 100!

L'chaim! Same to you friend.

327 joecitizen  5/20/08 11:14:17 am reply quote

re: #255 Cygnus

Did you forget your sarc tag? You'd better have.

wasn't the sarcasm obvious in this case?

328 crazytraveler  5/20/08 11:14:28 am reply quote

That sucks that Kennedy has a brain tumor. Despite me thinking he's a lousy politician, I feel bad for him and his family. Hopefully the docs at Mass General will be able to treat him successfully.

329 Fasternu426  5/20/08 11:14:43 am reply quote

I would rather him be tossed out by voters than to go like this. I pray he makes a miraculous recovery. Then gets tossed out by the voters.

330 galloping granny  5/20/08 11:14:44 am reply quote

re: #271 pschne54

Just think if we had the socialized medical system Teddy wants us all to have (not for him ,of course). He might have to wait 6 months for his chemotherapy and radiation.

If we had the socialized medicine that Canada has, Teddy would still be waiting to get the CAT that showed the tumor. Might still be waiting 6 months from . And then he would wait more to get the biopsy.

A dear friend up in CA had one of his friend's die of cancer under the Canadian medical system. Every single time he got to the top of the list for one thing, his condition had gone far beyond that so he had to go on still more lists. Went years like this for what started out to be a very treatable cancer. He didn't have enough $ to come to the US for treatment though. . .

331 trailortrash  5/20/08 11:14:54 am reply quote

prayers with him and his family.

332 realwest  5/20/08 11:14:57 am reply quote

re: #320 ted Thank you, but I'm not so sure about how tough I am or whether or not I'm a gift to LGF, but I do wish you the very best.

333 eric  5/20/08 11:15:12 am reply quote

I heard this in the car a little while ago and my first thpiugt was "Jeezz I hope he's OK"

My second thought was, if this were a republican, how many on the left would be cheering and hoping for his death?

334 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  5/20/08 11:15:12 am reply quote

re: #291 lurking faith

Jerry Pournelle has brain cancer? I had no idea.

That stinks.

Yeah, I used to read the stuff he did with Niven all the time.

335 somaking[deleted]  5/20/08 11:15:30 am
336 alegrias  5/20/08 11:15:43 am reply quote

re: #284 wolfie

He opposed Carter from the left.

* * *
I repeat, Teddy Kennedy will always have my respect for OPPOSING Carter, our worst president ever!

337 MES41067  5/20/08 11:15:54 am reply quote

I didn't think I could but my heart truly goes out to him and wish him the best.

338 ted  5/20/08 11:16:05 am reply quote

The same.

339 rightside  5/20/08 11:16:38 am reply quote

I am no medical expert but,

My first son had bilateral optic nerve glioma when he was born. We didn't find out until he was about 1 year of age though. It surrounded both his optic nerves and his optic chiasm. They were able to biopsy it, but it's location under the brain rendered it impossible to operate on.

No one would even consider it. We had some of the leading neurosurgeons of the country look at him, with no one even coming close to suggesting surgery. He was at Bethesda Naval Hospital where he was treated, and had Dr's. from Johns Hopkins look at him as well.

It was a low grade type glioma (grade 4 IIRC, could be wrong) so it was slow growing. He was treated with chemotherapy only. God called him home on Mothers Day, 1995.

That said, there are so many possibilities for treatment, but that all depends on what grade it is, it's location in the parietal lobe, etc. I am certain the best Dr's. will be thoroughly reviewing his case, and all the best options will be available.

Thank God we live in the greatest country on earth, with some of the brightest physicians among us. My thoughts and prayers go out to the Senator and his family at this time, despite my loathing of his politics.

340 nikis-knight  5/20/08 11:16:48 am reply quote

Brain injury/illness is the worst. I hope/pray he retains full functioning or as much as possible. Wouldn't wish that kind of trouble on my worst enemy (and badly misguided politicians aren't enemies in any real sense anyway.)

341 realwest  5/20/08 11:16:58 am reply quote

I do have to leave now. I just want to say that I'm not at all surprised that the comments here have been gracious and sympathetic to Senator Kennedy.
This is, after all, littlegreenfootballs.

Hope I have the chance to see you all down the road.

342 Endangered in MASS  5/20/08 11:16:58 am reply quote

re: #295 loppyd

It's the Kennedys Loppy. Rose had been petrified on Cape Cod for years prior to her death yet they still declared her a Florida resident to avoid the inheritence tax..

Which begs the question if she was a Florida resident how do they name the greenway after her?

343 NJDhockeyfan  5/20/08 11:16:59 am reply quote

C'mon folks. Charles seems busy deleting posts.

344 somaking  5/20/08 11:17:28 am reply quote

re: #335 somaking

But I hope he does not suffer. Cancer killed my Dad.

345 loppyd  5/20/08 11:17:38 am reply quote

re: #303 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

{BDVM}

346 turn  5/20/08 11:17:49 am reply quote

re: #147 realwest


Kind of bouncing around trying to get caught up on this thread.
Good luck to you too Realwest!

347 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  5/20/08 11:17:55 am
348 Rogue198  5/20/08 11:18:01 am reply quote

re: #322 song_and_dance_man

That post you quoted was deleted over an hour ago.

Your post will follow since it quotes the offensive remark.


So be it, it was still there since I hit the new comments button and not refresh screen., wasn't aware of it's deletion. My apologies Charles.

349 Pawn of the Oppressor  5/20/08 11:18:14 am reply quote

JFK was the last nationally prominent Democrat who was worth a damn.

That said, even my politically aggessive father, who was a young working man during the Cuban Missile Crisis and saw all the Camelot media bullshit first-hand (who's first reaction to the assassination was "Wow, that was a good shot!"), just shrugged and said "Who knows what might have happened, had he lived?"

(Frankly I think Vietnam might have been over with sooner, with a victory instead of defeat, had Kennedy been in charge - assuming that he'd have had the guts to fire McNamara. The whole modern world would be different.)

350 pilots wife  5/20/08 11:18:14 am reply quote

My dad died of a glioblastoma 10 years ago. We had 9 weeks between diagnosis and death.

My prayers go out to Sen Kennedy and his family.

351 loppyd  5/20/08 11:18:18 am reply quote

re: #341{realwest}

Later, Handsome!

352 FigJam  5/20/08 11:18:26 am reply quote

I think its noteworthy to point out the very positive reactions here. Many, many comments wishing Sen. Kennedy well, despite profound political disagreements with him. I daresay there would be a somewhat different reaction on Kos or Huff Po had the news been about, say, Dick Cheney having a brain tumor.

353 hailing frequencies open  5/20/08 11:18:43 am reply quote

This is terrible news for the Senator and his family. Prayers for a full recovery, or for peace, love, and comfort if a recovery is not granted.

354 Nevergiveup  5/20/08 11:19:03 am reply quote

re: #315 alegrias

* * *

Who knows! Robert Kennedy worked with conservatives early on, but then became more liberal; Jack Kennedy may have been conservative as many hawkish dems were early on, but may have ended up liberal also. Or not.

Either way they all meant well.

I would rather not over romanticize the Kennedy Legacy. I would hope all who serve in the Senate mean well, but there was a mean streak that often ran thru Kennedy politics, especially Bobbies. And I still resent some of the Nasty things Ted said about President Bush.

355 jcm  5/20/08 11:19:05 am reply quote

re: #286 loppyd

MA changed the law while Kerry was running for president because they were convinced Kerry would win and knew Mitt Romney would appoint a Republican.

The (D) created the super delegates after the McGovern fiasco. It sure looks like that's gonna' bite 'em on the ass, hard.

They fiddled with MA Senate succession, I wonder if they're going to regret that?

Symptomatic of (D)s, do something, and don't think the ramifications all the way through.

356 alegrias  5/20/08 11:19:09 am reply quote

re: #300 Endangered in MASS

D- Joe Kennedy
Marty Meehan


R- Oganowski
Mittster- Although the backlash for abandoning us to Deval is considerable. At least for me anyway.

* * *
Your wonderful former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney was on Fox & Friends this morning, now that's a presidential person I could salute for four years!

May Mitt Romney serve our country ably in any capacity in future, as the Kennedy family has tried to serve our country.

357 Kailen  5/20/08 11:19:18 am reply quote

Senator Kennedy, may you live forever.

358 ted  5/20/08 11:19:22 am reply quote

re: #335 somaking

I will not miss him

That' a tacky thing to say. This is something you don't wish on your worst enemy. It brings terrible pain and suffering to him and his family.

359 MacGregor  5/20/08 11:19:30 am reply quote

oh jeez- this is how my father met his demise. Two years of anguish. Bless him and his family.

360 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  5/20/08 11:19:36 am
361 Robert Schwartz[deleted]  5/20/08 11:19:41 am
362 victor_yugo  5/20/08 11:19:49 am reply quote

re: #348 Rogue198

So be it, it was still there since I hit the new comments button and not refresh screen., wasn't aware of it's deletion. My apologies Charles.

"New Comments" also updates deleted posts.

Nice try, your consolation prize is over there.

363 g3n3r1c  5/20/08 11:19:52 am reply quote

Although I will never agree with what Sen. Kennedy stood for on most of his stances. God Speed on recovery and prayers to him and his family

364 harley2002[deleted]  5/20/08 11:20:13 am
365 ted  5/20/08 11:20:31 am reply quote

re: #339 rightside

GBM'S are the highest grade.

366 pegcity  5/20/08 11:20:43 am reply quote

lets hope they can just remove it with no damage

367 rogerskirk  5/20/08 11:21:00 am reply quote

My prayers go out to Senator Kennedy and his family.

368 loppyd  5/20/08 11:21:05 am reply quote

re: #355 jcm

The (D) created the super delegates after the McGovern fiasco. It sure looks like that's gonna' bite 'em on the ass, hard.

They fiddled with MA Senate succession, I wonder if they're going to regret that?

Symptomatic of (D)s, do something, and don't think the ramifications all the way through.

They also fiddled with the pledged delegates and thanks to Jessie Jackson have a proportionate system.

If they had winner take all like most of the Republican primaries, Hillary would be the nominee.

369 sffilk  5/20/08 11:21:36 am reply quote

If it's G-D's will, may Senator Kennedy have a full recovery. If not, may he live comfortably.

Prayers go out to the Kennedy clan.

370 Eowyn2  5/20/08 11:21:45 am reply quote

re: #305 wolfie

these polls suck
they never say WHY the approval rating is low

"Excuse me, do you think Bush is doing a good job"

Moonbat "No"
Conservative "No"

371 Endangered in MASS  5/20/08 11:22:04 am reply quote

re: #321 loppyd


Oganowski is already running against Kerry, though

True dat but who would you rather face..Live shot or likes if Delahunt Capuano the capo .. or Fast Eddy Markey.

372 ted  5/20/08 11:22:05 am reply quote

re: #361 Robert Schwartz

This is not revenge. To suggest is irresponsible.

373 galloping granny  5/20/08 11:22:28 am reply quote

re: #332 realwest

Thank you, but I'm not so sure about how tough I am or whether or not I'm a gift to LGF, but I do wish you the very best.

You are tough realwest. And you are a gift to everyone who knows you.

374 loppyd  5/20/08 11:22:55 am reply quote

re: #371 Endangered in MASS

Oganowski is already running against Kerry, though

True dat but who would you rather face..Live shot or likes if Delahunt Capuano the capo .. or Fast Eddy Markey.

Good point....

375 SagamoreGal  5/20/08 11:23:10 am reply quote

Ted Sr has always been a rock for Caroline and Ethel and her children and grandchildren. May their prayers comfort them all over the next weeks/months.

Cancer SUCKS!

376 Nevergiveup  5/20/08 11:23:11 am reply quote

Dodd, Reid, and Kerry.---oh my eyes!

377 Rogue198  5/20/08 11:23:54 am reply quote

re: #362 victor_yugo

"New Comments" also updates deleted posts.

Nice try, your consolation prize is over there.

It was there sir when I hit new comments, hit quote, was distracted by work, you know, that thing some of us have to do, came back to the lounge and finished my post.

Charles has taken care of it and I gave my apologies. If you want to continue being an jerk about it, feel free.

378 Eowyn2  5/20/08 11:24:02 am reply quote

re: #315 alegrias

* * *

Who knows! Robert Kennedy worked with conservatives early on, but then became more liberal; Jack Kennedy may have been conservative as many hawkish dems were early on, but may have ended up liberal also. Or not.

Either way they all meant well.


good intentions are not reality based.

379 ted  5/20/08 11:24:03 am reply quote

re: #373 galloping granny

You are tough realwest. And you are a gift to everyone who knows you.

Exactly. I could not agree more, gg!

380 keithgabryelski  5/20/08 11:24:09 am reply quote

My family's thoughts are with you and yours, Senator.

381 Julio Jurenito  5/20/08 11:24:16 am reply quote

Whenever there is talk about cancer survival statistics, I recommend this article by Stephen Jay Gould: "The Median Is Not the Message".

[Link: www.cancerguide.org...]

Julio

382 Yishai  5/20/08 11:24:33 am reply quote

You know what I love about the lizardoid community? Charles can put up a post about a Senator who extremely apposed to what LGF stands for, and not worry about inhuman jibes and insensitive remarks about his health. Many other blogs do not have that peace of mind, and must shut down comments.

I'm proud to hang out here!

383 galloping granny  5/20/08 11:24:36 am reply quote

Re #361, somebody please go ding that down for me. I accidentally hit the wrong button.

to the author of that post- just who do YOU think you are to pass judgement on Teddy for that? Someday he will face his creator, just like we all will, and he will answer himself for his own actions, good and bad.

384 zonkerharris  5/20/08 11:24:39 am reply quote

Concur with the above comment that Duke is at the cutting edge with GBM. Also suggest that doctors attempt experimental therapy utilizing the endogenous antiangiogenesis inhibitors endostatin (ES) plus angiostatin (AS) at the same time at therapeutic dosages administered continuously. ES plus AS together cured every form of cancer in mice back in 1997 in Judah Folkman's famous Nature study. It's a shame that ES plus AS have never been tried together in humans to this day.

385 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  5/20/08 11:24:40 am reply quote

re: #370 Eowyn2

these polls suck
they never say WHY the approval rating is low

"Excuse me, do you think Bush is doing a good job"

Moonbat "No"
Conservative "No"

True, like the questions on the war as well.

"Do you agree with the way the war has been run?"

Moonbat; "No, we need to pull out all our forces now"
Conservative "No, we need to hit them harder and start going after Iran and Syria"

386 ArmyWife  5/20/08 11:25:19 am reply quote

re: #361 Robert Schwartz

That isn't necessary now. We all know the history, perhaps you will reconsider this and its appropriateness for this particular forum.

387 NY Nana  5/20/08 11:25:33 am reply quote

Info from WHDH TV,Boston on Sen. Kennedy's diagnosis, etc..

388 zeir  5/20/08 11:25:40 am reply quote

I want to second that the compassion showed by 99+% of posters reflects well on everybody...

389 Consumer  5/20/08 11:26:07 am reply quote

It warms my heart to see such positive support for a political opponent; such support is almost never reciprocated from across the aisle under similar terms.

390 turn  5/20/08 11:26:09 am reply quote

re: #361 Robert Schwartz

Tasteless comment. If you've seen the suffering this tragedy can bring you would self sensor your own post Schwartz.

391 Creeping Eruption  5/20/08 11:26:21 am reply quote

re: #383 galloping granny

Too late. Post deleted.

392 Dan G.  5/20/08 11:26:22 am reply quote

Good luck senator. Hopefully its operable and that not too much fucntion is lost.

For the curious:
The Parietal Lobe

Hey, lurking fuck-head mobies, if you are so certain in the correctness of your position and that this site is full of biggoted assholes, why do you need to fabricate evidence?

393 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  5/20/08 11:26:23 am
394 alegrias  5/20/08 11:26:28 am reply quote

re: #354 Nevergiveup

I would rather not over romanticize the Kennedy Legacy. I would hope all who serve in the Senate mean well, but there was a mean streak that often ran thru Kennedy politics, especially Bobbies. And I still resent some of the Nasty things Ted said about President Bush.

* * *
I;m not over-romanticizing, trust me--McCain's family has said nasty things about Pres. Bush I & II that I heard first hand. Maybe it's an inter-dynastic family rivalry issue, these families who've been powerful, presidential or presidential wannabes.

395 Land Shark  5/20/08 11:26:29 am reply quote

A brain tumor? Man, what a bummer. My prayers are with Senator Kennedy and his family. I may not agree on anything with him, and I'm well aware of what he did to poor Mary Jo Kopechne, but having lost dear relatives to cancer I know what he and his family are going through. It's a terrible thing. He's a human being, and I hope God has mercy on him.

396 Eowyn2  5/20/08 11:26:35 am reply quote

re: #382 Yishai

we like you too

397 mean Gene  5/20/08 11:26:42 am reply quote

Malignant.
That's not good.
Prayers for him and his family.
They say chemo and radiation are the usual courses in cases like this.
I hope they don't open him up....at his age that's got to be a bad idea.
But I know he and his family are making informed decisions.

398 rubix  5/20/08 11:26:49 am reply quote

Way to go LGF! I am so happy that this post isn't riddled with comments deriding Mr. Kennedy. Can you imagine what the Kos kids would say if such a diagnosis were to befall President Bush?

Our prayers are with you Mr. Kennedy. May you have a speedy and complete recovery -- refuah shlema.

399 Carolyn  5/20/08 11:27:09 am reply quote

re: #375 SagamoreGal

Yes it does.
I have lost so many family members to cancer.
I know there has been progress made in the cure for cancer, but not enough.

400 GGMac  5/20/08 11:27:22 am reply quote

re: #289 ted

I agree totally with you rw, but GBM is tough. I have muscular dystrophy. My docs told me I wouldn't make 30. I'll be 53yo Thursday. We always keep hope alive. Every day is a gift

53 with MD - you are a walking miracle, and heretofore you are onto the daily prayer list, along with realwest - in the hope that you both continue to grace the citizens of LGF with your presence.

And.....HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

401 Cygnus  5/20/08 11:27:37 am reply quote

re: #358 ted

That' a tacky thing to say. This is something you don't wish on your worst enemy. It brings terrible pain and suffering to him and his family.

That post was deleted. Good work, Charles.
Thank God I decided not wear my "I'd rather go hunting with Dick Cheney than ask Ted Kennedy for a ride" shirt today. There's nothing funny about any of this.

402 Creeping Eruption  5/20/08 11:27:52 am reply quote

re: #398 rubix

Way to go LGF! I am so happy that this post isn't riddled with comments deriding Mr. Kennedy. Can you imagine what the Kos kids would say if such a diagnosis were to befall President Bush?

Our prayers are with you Mr. Kennedy. May you have a speedy and complete recovery -- refuah shlema.

The KOS Kiddies would say something like this:

" . . .I don't wish ill on anyone, but I am so darn sad and angry. Why Senator Kennedy? I can only hope some Karma will visit BushCo and the people who most deserve punishment for the terrible deeds and deaths they've caused to have their day in court."

403 Silhouette  5/20/08 11:28:05 am reply quote

re: #385 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

True, like the questions on the war as well.

"Do you agree with the way the war has been run?"

Moonbat; "No, we need to pull out all our forces now"
Conservative "No, we need to hit them harder and start going after Iran and Syria"

Passed a business with "PEACE IN IRAQ NOW" in the window. I smiled and said to my family, "We working on it. We're killing the bad guys as fast as we can."

404 Nevergiveup  5/20/08 11:28:11 am reply quote

Kerry wants us to let the Kennedy family have privacy, but he sure beat a fast path to the microphone?

405 Charles  5/20/08 11:28:15 am reply quote

Please note: if you can't express sympathy, or be respectful, your best course is to simply not post anything.

Think before you post, because I'm very serious about keeping this thread decent. Several people have had accounts blocked already because they couldn't refrain from abusing their posting privileges.

406 Endangered in MASS  5/20/08 11:28:19 am reply quote

re: #378 Eowyn2


Isn't there road to a hot place that's paved with good intentions?

407 markie  5/20/08 11:29:00 am reply quote

Cancer is a bitch and shows no favoritism. Hope he can enjoy a little comfort during this time.

Maybe he'll get well enough to start a blog. We can visit, exchange ideas and derisive diatribe.

408 indythinker  5/20/08 11:29:05 am reply quote

Best wishes to Senator Kennedy and his family. I hope he has a comfortable course of treatment. Get well soon, and come back strong, Ted!

409 Thanos  5/20/08 11:29:16 am reply quote

re: #291 lurking faith

Jerry Pournelle has brain cancer? I had no idea.

That stinks.

Yes it does, but he's handling it superbly. His journal the past few months has been inspirational, and he appears to be recovering well. His biggest frustrations right now are his general malaise from recovery (he's a dyed in the wool type-A workaholic,) and his at times fumbling speech.

Another notable who's also recovering from cancer is Virginia Postrel, ex-editor at Reason from when it was worth reading.

[Link: dynamist.com...]

(she's also looking for a good web-designer who understands fashion and Glamour if any lizards are interested.)

410 Cygnus  5/20/08 11:29:37 am reply quote

re: #382 Yishai

You know what I love about the lizardoid community? Charles can put up a post about a Senator who extremely apposed to what LGF stands for, and not worry about inhuman jibes and insensitive remarks about his health. Many other blogs do not have that peace of mind, and must shut down comments.

I'm proud to hang out here!

Me too. Lizard Nation is a class act all the way.

411 ghost707  5/20/08 11:29:48 am reply quote

re: #308 victor_yugo

My mom went through it, and lived (although the chemo itself nearly killed her).

As she says repeatedly, it's a crap shoot. Your only option to stay in control is not to fight it; beyond that, it's a gamble.

I think within the next few decades the medical community will figure out a way to make cancer benign.

That will be a great day for mankind.

412 markie  5/20/08 11:30:06 am reply quote

re: #382 Yishai

There have been a few that have tripped up, but not many.

413 Diamond Bullet  5/20/08 11:30:06 am reply quote

Awful news. I disagree with almost everything he stands for, but respect his right to say it. Hope he pulls through - the silver lining is that there has never been a better time in the entire history of mankind to get cancer. People survive now what were automatic death sentences even 20 years ago.

414 looking closely  5/20/08 11:30:29 am reply quote

The prognosis for glioblastoma multiforme is miserable.

There is no effective treatment, and most patients have under a year to live after the dx is made (many a lot less than that).

The teensy silver lining to this very black cloud is that by the time the end comes, most patients don't know what's happening any more.

Lower grade gliomas have correspondingly longer survival times, but the prognoses are still bad. Radiation can slow things a little there.

There is no good outcome here.

Best wishes to Kennedy's family.

415 secretfire  5/20/08 11:30:31 am reply quote

re: #31 buzzsawmonkey

One may dislike Ted Kennedy's politics; one may joke about his fondness for the grape. One may deeply despise his behavior in, and the handling of, the Chappaquiddick incident.

But it is tragic that he should have to experience this. May he have a refuah shelema (a complete healing).

"Refuah shlema" is a beautiful phrase. Here is a picture. [Link: dubiquilts.blogspot.com...]

I wholeheartedly agree with your prayer.

416 azdavesoulsearcher  5/20/08 11:30:57 am reply quote

I wish the best for Senator Kennedy and his family. Whatever the politics, there should be compassion for human suffering.

417 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  5/20/08 11:31:05 am reply quote

re: #345 loppyd

Thanks, loppy.

418 Robert Schwartz  5/20/08 11:31:10 am reply quote

"That isn't necessary now. We all know the history, perhaps you will reconsider this and its appropriateness for this particular forum."

This is not his wake, it is the internet.

419 drewberto[deleted]  5/20/08 11:31:21 am
420 jamfish  5/20/08 11:31:31 am reply quote

One minute I was harping and cutting Ted down to size; utterly disliked his politics. Now this happens and my heart aches for this man and his family. Positively aches.

421 mean Gene  5/20/08 11:31:33 am reply quote

The radio personality Al Rantel (sp?) is coming back to the radio next week after cancer.
He's been gone too long.
As we baby boomers age we're going to be seeing more and more of those we know, admire, care about getting hit by this scourge.
It is so sad.

422 Fasternu426  5/20/08 11:31:48 am reply quote

re: #388 zeir

I want to second that the compassion showed by 99+% of posters reflects well on everybody...


Agreed! Many of us would pounce on liberal ideas and beliefs and tear them to pieces unmercifully. But not so for the person that believes them. Kennedy is what he is, but he is a human and an American. The left may have prayed and screeched for Cheney to die when he went in for a heart problem, but that just shows how shallow their beliefs really are. Ted Kennedy and his family will be in my prayers. I don't hate Ted Kennedy, I wholeheartedly disagree with him. I can dislike what someone believes without hating them, that is the difference between the left and the right.

423 Eowyn2  5/20/08 11:32:11 am reply quote

re: #384 zonkerharris

Concur with the above comment that Duke is at the cutting edge with GBM. Also suggest that doctors attempt experimental therapy utilizing the endogenous antiangiogenesis inhibitors endostatin (ES) plus angiostatin (AS) at the same time at therapeutic dosages administered continuously. ES plus AS together cured every form of cancer in mice back in 1997 in Judah Folkman's famous Nature study. It's a shame that ES plus AS have never been tried together in humans to this day.

back in the late 70s, a good friend of my brother became a human test subject for cancer. He took every medication possible. His cancer would go into remission, come out of remission and on and on. He died about 1980 at the age of 24. When we think of the great strides that have been made in the last 30 years regarding radiation, chemo and laser, let us not forget the thousands of people who never gave up hope that a cure could, eventually, be found and spent their dying days so that others might live. There is no hall of fame, no wall, no monument to those brave people.

424 alegrias  5/20/08 11:32:19 am reply quote

re: #378 Eowyn2

good intentions are not reality based.

* * *
A person's good intentions are some measure of character, not all.

True, I'm not happy Senator Kennedy tried to undercut Reagan's attempt to bankrupt the USSR by reaching out to Yuri Andropov, but Kennedy failed, and Reagan toppled the USSR.

Still, Massachusetts voters must have their reasons for keeping Senator Kennedy in office, and good intentions may be one of them.

My last tv image of Teddy Kennedy was his lusty singing of farm labor songs in horrible Spanish at an Obama rally (ultimately Hillary won in Massachusetts).

425 drewberto  5/20/08 11:32:36 am reply quote

re: #419 drewberto

i didnt see charles post there. sorry for making light of the guys tribulations i hope gets better but i also hope he retires.

426 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  5/20/08 11:32:37 am
427 markie  5/20/08 11:32:53 am reply quote

re: #414 looking closely

There have been strides made getting medications across the brain-blood barrier. Maybe Teddy will benefit.

428 Sponge[deleted]  5/20/08 11:33:21 am
429 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  5/20/08 11:33:21 am reply quote

re: #403 Silhouette

Passed a business with "PEACE IN IRAQ NOW" in the window. I smiled and said to my family, "We working on it. We're killing the bad guys as fast as we can."

I get to drive by a moonbat house every day. They've got 2 huge signs in the front yard, "End the War now" and "Who would Jesus bomb?".

430 buzzsawmonkey  5/20/08 11:33:27 am reply quote

re: #415 secretfire

Thanks for the link!

431 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  5/20/08 11:33:27 am
432 ted  5/20/08 11:33:35 am reply quote

re: #400 GGMac

53 with MD - you are a walking miracle, and heretofore you are onto the daily prayer list, along with realwest - in the hope that you both continue to grace the citizens of LGF with your presence.

And.....HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

Tell me about it. Thx so much ! But I ain't walking, I'm rolling.. !

[Link: www.electricwheelchair-electricscooter.com...]

433 Pawn of the Oppressor  5/20/08 11:33:41 am reply quote

re: #407 markie

Cancer is a bitch and shows no favoritism. Hope he can enjoy a little comfort during this time.

Maybe he'll get well enough to start a blog. We can visit, exchange ideas and derisive diatribe.

That would be something.

I suppose if there's any one guy I'd want to get into a drunken fight with in stereotypical Irish tradition, it would be Ted Kennedy. Think of the story your spouse could tell. "Kids, do you want to hear about the time daddy had too much to drink and got into a fist-fight with a famous Senator?"

434 loppyd  5/20/08 11:34:47 am reply quote

As someone who has a loved one who was recently diagnosed with cancer, had major surgery and is facing chemo, I find no joy whatsoever in Kennedy's diagnosis.

It is no secret that I have never been a fan of his or the rest of the Kennedy Clan, but I do extend my sympathies to his wife and children and hope that he does not suffer.

435 galloping granny  5/20/08 11:34:54 am reply quote

Just said on Fox that the tumor is inoperable and that makes the prognosis unfavorable.

436 Skeptical Patriot  5/20/08 11:35:04 am reply quote

The class of this thread is why I'm a proud reader of this site.

SP

437 bill in tx  5/20/08 11:35:11 am reply quote

The Democrats were already spinning this to their advantage on Saturday. On Fox News, the anchor asked the guest, a "Democratic Strategist" (don't remember who) that since Sen. Kennedy is an Obama supporter, if this would affect the Presidential race. The "Democratic Strategist" replied: "I don't want to get into politics..." (OK, I'm thinking, good answer) "...but I think this will give many people second thoughts about voting for someone as old as John McCain."

My jaw hit the floor. Despicable. They do indeed eat their young.

To Sen. Kennedy -- Make it a glorious sunset!

438 JCM  5/20/08 11:35:12 am reply quote

re: #418 Robert Schwartz

re: #419 drewberto

Take it elsewhere.

439 bald headed geek  5/20/08 11:35:27 am reply quote

I may agree with Senator Kennedy on virtually nothing, but I wish him nothing but a speedy and complete recovery. I know all too well the havoc that the evil illness of cancer can wreak on a person, having lost both my parents, one of my aunts, and one of my grandfathers to it.

BHG

440 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  5/20/08 11:35:33 am
441 Nevergiveup  5/20/08 11:35:34 am reply quote

I have been hearing that Obama was gong to declare a victory of sorts tonight after winning Oregon. I wonder if he has the sensitivity to keep his yap shut tonight?

442 g3n3r1c  5/20/08 11:35:37 am reply quote

re: #435 galloping granny

Just said on Fox that the tumor is inoperable and that makes the prognosis unfavorable.

That is truly horrible news for the Kennedy Family

443 Pullus Iulius  5/20/08 11:35:40 am reply quote

My thoughts and prayers are with the Senator and his family. I know I am joined by many. We live in an age of miracles.

444 Sponge  5/20/08 11:35:40 am reply quote

Wow. Deleted? I didn't say anything bad.

445 Atweber  5/20/08 11:35:41 am reply quote

Do any of you liz's remember where you were when his bro JF was shot? I was in class in high school as a freshman in world history with a Mrs. Clemenshaw.

446 Eowyn2  5/20/08 11:35:47 am reply quote

re: #385 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

we are in concensus.
Your approval rating is 99%

447 ted  5/20/08 11:35:51 am reply quote

re: #401 Cygnus

That post was deleted. Good work, Charles.
Thank God I decided not wear my "I'd rather go hunting with Dick Cheney than ask Ted Kennedy for a ride" shirt today. There's nothing funny about any of this.

I lived through this with my mom for 9 months. It was hell.

448 wolfie  5/20/08 11:35:58 am reply quote

re: #370 Eowyn2

these polls suck
they never say WHY the approval rating is low

"Excuse me, do you think Bush is doing a good job"

Moonbat "No"
Conservative "No"

Absolutely! Great point!
I have great fun with sufferers of BDS where that is concerned. They start off on their usual rants, and I jump right in blasting Bush for things like No Child Left Behind or the prescription drug benefit, big-spending, getting too many low-income people totally off the tax rolls with his tax cuts, failure to cut corporate tax rates down to European levels, squishiness on domestic Wahabis, etc.
It's always fun to do this just to see the moonbat smiles turn to utter consternation when they realize the agree with Bush more than with me!
I dare say that no moonbat w/ whom I've played this card has ever brought up BDS in my presence. !

449 turn  5/20/08 11:36:22 am reply quote

re: #435 galloping granny

Just said on Fox that the tumor is inoperable and that makes the prognosis unfavorable.

Oh no, not good.

450 BackwardsBoy  5/20/08 11:36:34 am reply quote

My prayers go out to Senator Kennedy and his family. It's good to see this is the overarching theme of these comments.

451 Pawn of the Oppressor  5/20/08 11:36:48 am reply quote

re: #429 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I get to drive by a moonbat house every day. They've got 2 huge signs in the front yard, "End the War now" and "Who would Jesus bomb?".

I always find it funny when anti-war types try to bring Jesus into politics. Isn't the existence of a Christofascist Theocracy a pre-requisite for even being able to ask that question?

For that matter, the answer might be surprising. We are talking about a guy who said "Render unto Caesar", etc. and died because he tried to start a riot on a politically sensitive holiday.

452 Cygnus  5/20/08 11:36:54 am reply quote

re: #437 bill in tx

The Democrats were already spinning this to their advantage on Saturday. On Fox News, the anchor asked the guest, a "Democratic Strategist" (don't remember who) that since Sen. Kennedy is an Obama supporter, if this would affect the Presidential race. The "Democratic Strategist" replied: "I don't want to get into politics..." (OK, I'm thinking, good answer) "...but I think this will give many people second thoughts about voting for someone as old as John McCain."

My jaw hit the floor. Despicable. They do indeed eat their young.

To Sen. Kennedy -- Make it a glorious sunset!

Bastards.

453 Silhouette  5/20/08 11:37:06 am reply quote

re: #440 song_and_dance_man

It also happens to not be your blog.

It reminds me of the good advice, "Never tell a judge, 'You can't *do* that.' "

454 Cygnus  5/20/08 11:37:34 am reply quote

re: #440 song_and_dance_man

It also happens to not be your blog.

So STFU.

455 Nevergiveup  5/20/08 11:37:36 am reply quote

re: #437 bill in tx

Who was it?

456 markie  5/20/08 11:37:53 am reply quote

re: #435 galloping granny

Just said on Fox that the tumor is inoperable and that makes the prognosis unfavorable.

Damn.

May he rest well, stay home, and dream of large women.

457 Eowyn2  5/20/08 11:38:11 am reply quote

re: #406 Endangered in MASS

Isn't there road to a hot place that's paved with good intentions?


that's what I hear. But daddy used to say "never believe anything you hear and only half of what you see"

458 Exdamyankee  5/20/08 11:38:15 am reply quote

As much as I positively despised the man on a purely political level--as much as I believe he personifies what is wrong with the "political class" in this country--and as much as I believe his absence from US politics would be a benefit to US policy as a whole-- this is sorry news indeed.

The Kennedy family has endured much pain over the years. So many of them were taken in the prime of their lives. I feel for them, and pray for the senator's healing, with as much fervor as I have prayed for his defeat at the polls. May he recover fully, and live a long and happy life in retirement.

It occurs to me as I read the comments, how different a place this is, and what a different caliber of human being there is among the LGF community, in comparison to the average cesspool moonbat blog. Imagine the reaction should a prominant GOPer be similarly stricken.

459 CIA Reject  5/20/08 11:38:37 am reply quote

re: #433 Pawn of the Oppressor

Don't know about fist fights, but I do have an aunt who called Henry Ford a "son of a bitch" - in person, to his face.

/She was 11 years old at the time...

460 MandyManners  5/20/08 11:38:47 am reply quote

re: #435 galloping granny

Just said on Fox that the tumor is inoperable and that makes the prognosis unfavorable.

Ah, nutz.

461 galloping granny  5/20/08 11:38:58 am reply quote

re: #445 Atweber

Do any of you liz's remember where you were when his bro JF was shot? I was in class in high school as a freshman in world history with a Mrs. Clemenshaw.

I was also in class - watching it live on TV. Our school always went to great lengths to make sure we saw things like space missions and local-ish appearances of presidents and other notables.

462 loppyd  5/20/08 11:38:58 am reply quote

re: #445 Atweber

Do any of you liz's remember where you were when his bro JF was shot? I was in class in high school as a freshman in world history with a Mrs. Clemenshaw.

I hadn't been born yet.

I'm a member of the 'do you remember where you were when the space shuttle exploded?' generation.

Oh and it was sophomore year in Mrs. MacDonald's French class.

LOL

463 Chris in Toronto  5/20/08 11:39:20 am reply quote

This same thing got my grandmother, so I feel the family's pain. My heart goes out to them.

Wikipedia's Ted Kennedy citation has already been updated to reflect his diagnosis, btw. I can't provide a link, sorry: got there through an Apple Spotlight(?) search. It's near the top of the Health section.

464 johnm  5/20/08 11:39:42 am reply quote

Awful news. Right or wrong, he's dedicated most of his life serving the American public and all of his countrymen should keep him and his family in their thoughts. Good luck, Senator.

465 Abu Lahab  5/20/08 11:39:48 am reply quote

I love LGF.
Lizards are the best crowed to be among. Most reactions one sees here tell a lot.
Get well, Senator

466 MandyManners  5/20/08 11:40:10 am reply quote

re: #458 Exdamyankee

Imagine the reaction should a prominant GOPer be similarly stricken.

Remember the way Huffpost reacted to Tony Snow's cancer?

467 bald headed geek  5/20/08 11:40:25 am reply quote

re: #447 ted

I definitely feel your pain. Been there, done that with BOTH parents. Cancer is evil, plain and simple.

BHG

468 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  5/20/08 11:40:35 am reply quote

re: #462 loppyd

I hadn't been born yet.

I'm a member of the 'do you remember where you were when the space shuttle exploded?' generation.

Oh and it was sophomore year in Mrs. MacDonald's French class.

LOL

I was in my junior high English class.

469 Eowyn2  5/20/08 11:40:49 am reply quote

re: #445 Atweber

Do any of you liz's remember where you were when his bro JF was shot? I was in class in high school as a freshman in world history with a Mrs. Clemenshaw.

I was 5 (or 4 3/4) so I'm guessing I was home. No kindergarten for Parochial schoolers.

When Bobby was shot, I was in school. We even got out of school when his motorcade drove through on its way to CA.

470 nyc redneck  5/20/08 11:40:50 am reply quote

re: #441 Nevergiveup

I have been hearing that Obama was gong to declare a victory of sorts tonight after winning Oregon. I wonder if he has the sensitivity to keep his yap shut tonight?

some one will have to suggest it to him. i'm sure. (probably won't be his classy wife.)

471 markie  5/20/08 11:40:51 am reply quote

re: #466 MandyManners

I'd still like to drop a turd in someone's pocket over there.

472 really grumpy big dog Johnson  5/20/08 11:40:58 am reply quote

It would be interesting to know the usernames of the seven people who've had their posts deleted.

There's something wrong with those folks...

473 Pawn of the Oppressor  5/20/08 11:41:06 am reply quote

re: #459 CIA Reject

Don't know about fist fights, but I do have an aunt who called Henry Ford a "son of a bitch" - in person, to his face.

/She was 11 years old at the time...

If she's still with us, please thank her for me.

474 Creeping Eruption  5/20/08 11:41:14 am reply quote

re: #468 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Home sick from 8th grade myself

475 galloping granny  5/20/08 11:41:18 am reply quote

re: #463 Chris in Toronto

This same thing got my grandmother, so I feel the family's pain. My heart goes out to them.

Wikipedia's Ted Kennedy citation has already been updated to reflect his diagnosis, btw. I can't provide a link, sorry: got there through an Apple Spotlight(?) search. It's near the top of the Health section.

Ted Kennedy's mother also died of a brain tumor.

476 littleben  5/20/08 11:41:44 am reply quote

I am a relative newcomer to this blog but I am awestruck at the civility and humanity expressed by the bloggers about a man who had his share of controversy and was a political adversary of most of us.

We all know what the Left blogs would look like if this happened to a conservative senator.

I also wish to share with the rest of you something surprising I heard from the personal assistant to a great Rebbe who said about John Kennedy that he was to be considered on of the Righteous of The Nations. I can't say for sure that this extended to Ted also, but he was a friend of the Jewish People and Israel.

May he have a speedy recovery.

477 Sharmuta  5/20/08 11:41:46 am reply quote

re: #472 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Just click the football, and you can see the profile.

478 mean Gene  5/20/08 11:41:47 am reply quote

re: #456 markie

Damn.

May he rest well, stay home, and dream of large women.

Wouldn't that be your hope for Bill Clinton?
Love the Princess Bride.
My dear hubby has seen it one too many times.
He can quote just about the entire thing.

479 MilkOfMalfeasance  5/20/08 11:41:51 am reply quote

The Lizard Nation is a class act, and forgive me if this is nit picky, but IMO: starting every comment with something like "I don't agree with anything he did, but...." seems kind of back handed to me. This really has nothing to do with politics in my book. This is empathy for another human and nothing more. Clearly there will be people out there who will try to make a political play with this, but I can tell you that no one in the Kennedy house is thinking much about politics right now. I think we can help give them strength by doing the same.

480 MandyManners  5/20/08 11:41:59 am reply quote

re: #471 markie

I'd still like to drop a turd in someone's pocket over there.

I shouldn't be laughing on such a somber thread but, I am.

481 markie  5/20/08 11:42:06 am reply quote

re: #445 Atweber

Do any of you liz's remember where you were when his bro JF was shot? I was in class in high school as a freshman in world history with a Mrs. Clemenshaw.

Cafeteria in grade school. Ruined lunch and we all went home like when Cuba heated up.

482 looking closely  5/20/08 11:42:12 am reply quote

re: #381 Julio Jurenito

Whenever there is talk about cancer survival statistics, I recommend this article by Stephen Jay Gould: "The Median Is