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Hamas TV: Bush is Dracula, a Vampire

Tue, May 20, 2008 at 2:19:56 pm PDT

My favorite part of this deranged little hate spew by Hamas “Minister of Culture (!)” and Jimmy Carter negotiating partner Atallah Abu Al-Subh is when he flips over a sheet of paper like a Western newscaster. Is he actually reading something that he wrote in advance?

Probably.

From Hamas’ Al Aqsa TV, May 18, 2008. (Courtesy of MEMRI TV.)

Click picture to play video. Requires Windows Media Player; Mac users should install Flip4Mac.

Atallah Abu Al-Subh: American support of Israel is total. It gets to the point where the Israeli demands turn into resolutions adopted by the Security Council, under the complete auspices of America. Thank you, America! In every alley, house and neighborhood, and [whenever they commit] a holocaust, the Israelis should erect a statue of little Bush, who gave them everything. This is not viewed as deplorable by the mistress of criminality, America, or by the master of killing, destruction, crime, violence, tyranny, and injustice – little Bush. I can see the blood of the children of Afghanistan between his fangs. Their blood drips onto his lips and chest. He is Dracula, a vampire. I can see the holocausts in which the Iraqi people is burned, the land that is being torn to shreds, the oil that is being plundered, and the four million Iraqis scattered throughout the land, or exiled in their own country. The forces of little Bush deny them their lives every morning. They destroy civilization and humanity, until the day comes when he can bring Israel the good tidings: In Baghdad, there is a nation that loves peace with the Israelis.

He tells us that the situation in Damascus and Iran will inevitably change, and that the peoples and regimes there will transform into neo-Americans, who protect every Israeli smile, and welcome every bullet used to kill their Arab brothers. This is what is going on. These are the “good tidings” Bush brings us. Afghanistan is being destroyed, Iraq is being destroyed - Qana, the Al-’Amariya shelter... All the hatred and all the fire that consumes people from within are matches lit by Bush. Bush will be the worst human being – if I may go so far as to call him a human – throughout history. The deeds committed by Nero pale in comparison with Bush’s deeds. The crimes of warlords like Mussolini, Hitler, and Franco cannot be compared to one quarter of Bush’s shoelace – let alone to his full height.

Bush thirsts for blood day and night. He derives pleasure from killing. He has surpassed all types of crimes and all sadistic traits. That’s Bush for you. With all his audacity and insolence, Bush tears the Arab land to shreds. He makes decisions and has the audacity to call for the killing of life, and the killing of any person fighting for his right to live. That’s Bush for you.

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1 MandyManners  5/20/08 2:20:49 pm reply quote

Didn't Vlad kick Muslim ass?

2 Pent.  5/20/08 2:22:08 pm reply quote
The deeds committed by Nero pale in comparison with Bush’s deeds.


Bush killed his mother? Huh.

3 goddessoftheclassroom  5/20/08 2:22:10 pm reply quote

There's so much at stake...

4 Cognito  5/20/08 2:22:35 pm reply quote

No, no, no. Bush is "Dracula, a rodeo clown."

(I love that he had to explain 'Dracula.' Ha.)

5 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  5/20/08 2:22:37 pm
6 rp1138  5/20/08 2:22:52 pm reply quote

Is it just me, or does it sound like he stole all his material from the Daily Kos?

7 MandyManners  5/20/08 2:23:02 pm reply quote

re: #3 goddessoftheclassroom

There's so much at stake...

LOL!

8 MandyManners  5/20/08 2:23:30 pm reply quote

re: #5 song_and_dance_man

Oh yeah, well Allah is Frankenstein.

Bits and pieces of the pagan spirits.

9 calcajun  5/20/08 2:23:41 pm reply quote

So, who is Hamas casting as "Buffy; The Vampire Slayer"?

10 MandyManners  5/20/08 2:23:57 pm reply quote

re: #6 rp1138

Is it just me, or does it sound like he stole all his material from the Daily Kos?

I wouldn't doubt that he or an assistant reads it.

11 Israel4ever  5/20/08 2:24:03 pm reply quote

are we sure this isn't a Daily Kos diary?

12 goddessoftheclassroom  5/20/08 2:24:07 pm reply quote

re: #7 MandyManners

LOL!

You're too kind!

{MandyManners}

13 MandyManners  5/20/08 2:24:24 pm reply quote

re: #9 calcajun

So, who is Hamas casting as "Buffy; The Vampire Slayer"?

WAB?

14 GFinOaktown  5/20/08 2:24:55 pm reply quote

...sounds like Olberman to me...

15 karmic_inquisitor  5/20/08 2:25:31 pm reply quote

That guy looks like Daniel Schor!

/Is there a difference?

16 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  5/20/08 2:25:47 pm
17 David IV of Georgia  5/20/08 2:26:07 pm reply quote

Science!

18 calcajun  5/20/08 2:26:12 pm reply quote

re: #13 MandyManners

Sorry, what is "WAB"?

19 gop_patriot  5/20/08 2:26:14 pm reply quote
All the hatred and all the fire that consumes people from within are matches lit by Bush. Bush will be the worst human being – if I may go so far as to call him a human – throughout history. The deeds committed by Nero pale in comparison with Bush’s deeds. The crimes of warlords like Mussolini, Hitler, and Franco cannot be compared to one quarter of Bush’s shoelace – let alone to his full height.

Has this guy been reading Kos and HuffPo? Or the signs that Zombie photographs at those protests? Good Lord, how ridiculous. Ol' Atallah has gone right around the bend.

20 savage_nation[deleted]  5/20/08 2:26:16 pm
21 chinesearithmetic  5/20/08 2:26:20 pm reply quote

Bush will be the worst human being – if I may go so far as to call him a human – throughout history. The deeds committed by Nero pale in comparison with Bush’s deeds. The crimes of warlords like Mussolini, Hitler, and Franco cannot be compared to one quarter of Bush’s shoelace – let alone to his full height

I never should have subscribed to Vanity Fair

22 TN_Vol  5/20/08 2:26:35 pm reply quote

My, he's a wordy fellow.

23 Sharmuta  5/20/08 2:27:08 pm reply quote

Let's give them a state!

24 calcajun  5/20/08 2:27:20 pm reply quote

re: #20 savage_nation

I always knew I liked him. Dunno why. Guess, he was mad, Vlad and dangerous to know.

25 FoolsMate  5/20/08 2:27:36 pm reply quote

Who is Frankenstein then?

26 gop_patriot  5/20/08 2:27:46 pm reply quote

re: #6 rp1138

Is it just me, or does it sound like he stole all his material from the Daily Kos?

Ha, you beat me to it. :)

27 Nevergiveup  5/20/08 2:27:50 pm reply quote

I wonder if he is one of Obama's foreign policy advisers?

28 Sharmuta  5/20/08 2:28:34 pm reply quote
American support of Israel is total. It gets to the point where the Israeli demands turn into resolutions adopted by the Security Council, under the complete auspices of America. Thank you, America!

You're welcome!

29 Dianna  5/20/08 2:28:39 pm reply quote

re: #1 MandyManners

He did. Unfortunately, he kicked peasant ass most of all.

30 turn  5/20/08 2:28:56 pm reply quote

Atallah, don't forget little Bush carries a very big stick.

31 UberInfidel67  5/20/08 2:29:03 pm reply quote

For you Mandy:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

32 nikis-knight  5/20/08 2:29:08 pm reply quote

Bush is The Count.
One terrorist supporting government toppled!
TWO terrorist supporting governments toppled!
...
Hmm, children, are there any more terrorist supporting governments to topple?
...
YES!
THREE! Three terrorist supporting governments toppled!

/7 months left...

33 Mich-again  5/20/08 2:29:11 pm reply quote
...the Israelis should erect a statue of little Bush, who gave them everything.

Correction, you nitwit.

It was a burning bush who gave the Israeli's everything.

34 David IV of Georgia  5/20/08 2:29:26 pm reply quote

re: #19 gop_patriot

This is why Angel Dust (PCP) is illegal here.


Oh, he isn't on drugs?
So he's just insane?
He thought he was Mohammed's horse yesterday?

35 turn  5/20/08 2:29:39 pm reply quote

re: #16 song_and_dance_man

They had to go with Bush is Dracula since their friend Bruce Ramsey in Seattle declared Hitler reasonable.

LOL

36 MandyManners  5/20/08 2:29:52 pm reply quote

re: #18 calcajun

Sorry, what is "WAB"?

WhinyAssBitch, Michelle Obama.

37 alegrias  5/20/08 2:30:02 pm reply quote

Safe to say this outfit does NOT support John McCain's candidacy to WIN against such Iran-funded outfits who kill our friends and our troops.

38 Dianna  5/20/08 2:30:40 pm reply quote

re: #20 savage_nation

Evidently, yes. Vlad, at that point, had nothing to lose.

39 savage_nation[deleted]  5/20/08 2:30:50 pm
40 goddessoftheclassroom  5/20/08 2:31:14 pm reply quote

re: #24 calcajun

I always knew I liked him. Dunno why. Guess, he was mad, Vlad and dangerous to know.

OMG, a pun and a historical allusion in one comment! How glorious!

41 Dianna  5/20/08 2:31:35 pm reply quote

re: #24 calcajun

Oh, no, he was never as good a poet as Byron!

42 calcajun  5/20/08 2:31:39 pm reply quote

re: #36 MandyManners

Ah. She's not as lithe as S. Michelle Gellar, though.

43 uncle_monkey  5/20/08 2:31:43 pm reply quote

You look sorta like Wolfman, pal.

44 turn  5/20/08 2:32:01 pm reply quote

Hopefully a bit more again tomorrow, time to go walk the black lab along the American river. Stay safe ...

45 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  5/20/08 2:32:04 pm
46 bosforus  5/20/08 2:32:25 pm reply quote

He says it like it's a bad thing.

47 jamgarr  5/20/08 2:32:35 pm reply quote

H'Purb Ali

48 FrogMarch  5/20/08 2:32:55 pm reply quote

No wonder leftists want to sell t-shirts with Palestinian children holding machine guns. (the only guns leftists like.)
The left hate George Bush the same way the Palestinians hate the Jews.

49 goddessoftheclassroom  5/20/08 2:33:00 pm reply quote

re: #47 jamgarr

H'Purb Ali

Ah, clever!

50 jaunte  5/20/08 2:33:50 pm reply quote

Is there any arab rhetoric that doesn't involve extreme exaggeration?
On the other hand, how effective can you at getting attention if every grievance is blamed on "the most evil devils to walk the earth, supernaturally awesomely evil. Really evil, I'm telling you!"
I get the impression that this guy could just go on for hours in this vein and his usual audience might yawn a little, and go have dinner.

51 Ward Cleaver  5/20/08 2:34:27 pm reply quote

re: #9 calcajun

So, who is Hamas casting as "Buffy; The Vampire Slayer"?

Pelosi?

52 Beddgelert  5/20/08 2:34:34 pm reply quote

Guess he got a phone call threat from Amadenijad over the weekend...

53 Deafdog  5/20/08 2:34:46 pm reply quote

Are you sure this guy is from Palestine?

Could have been from moveon.com, The Nation or the Barrack Obama Presidential Campaign.

54 Render  5/20/08 2:35:27 pm reply quote

I can't get past the first two sentences.

I never would have noticed the vampire reference...

===

"American support of Israel is total."

-uh yeah, sure yer right...and the sun revolves around a flat earth.

"It gets to the point where the Israeli demands turn into resolutions adopted by the Security Council, under the complete auspices of America."

-That could only happen in that one Star Trek episode where Spock had a beatnik beard.

TOO
WEIRD
FOR
SANITY,
R

55 bosforus  5/20/08 2:36:33 pm reply quote

1600 Transylvania Ave

56 Diamond Bullet  5/20/08 2:36:53 pm reply quote
The crimes of warlords like Mussolini, Hitler, and Franco cannot be compared to one quarter of Bush’s shoelace – let alone to his full height

What is it with the Arab fixation on shoes? I still recall those insane rants the Iraqi Information Minister used to give about hitting our soldiers with shoes. Is it just the fact that they walk around in their own feces all day?

57 kuffarharbi  5/20/08 2:36:54 pm reply quote

Vlad the impaler scared the shit out of the Turks by displaying 20.00o of their comrades' heads on stakes on the approach to his castle. In his unorthodox and intemperate way he held back the wave of jihad for awhile. They understood his language.

As for the smirking cockroach on Al-Agsa TV.....yawn, yawn, yawn. Bush, Bush, Bush. BDS par excellence. Massive projection. Everything he says about Bush here could be describing his own sorry self and his pals down in the seventh circle of hell.

58 nikis-knight  5/20/08 2:37:04 pm reply quote

re: #53 Deafdog

Are you sure this guy is from Palestine?

Could have been from moveon.com, The Nation or the Barrack Obama Presidential Campaign.

or all of the above.

59 jamgarr  5/20/08 2:37:46 pm reply quote

The Scourge of Carpathia - The Sorry of Moldavia!

60 calcajun  5/20/08 2:37:47 pm reply quote

re: #41 Dianna

When a man hath no freedom to fight for at home
Let him combat for that of his neighbors
To remember the glories of Greece and Rome
And get knocked on the head for his labours
To do good to mankind is the chivalrous plan
And as always we're nobly requited
To battle for freedom where ever we can
and if not shot or hanged, we'll get knighted.

61 sparrowlake  5/20/08 2:38:03 pm reply quote
The crimes of warlords like Mussolini, Hitler, and Franco cannot be compared to one quarter of Bush’s shoelace – let alone to his full height.
Bush thirsts for blood day and night.

If there is anything that can make me applaud and cheer the bumbling petrofunds-addicted Dubbya it is the maniacal yet comical rantings of these animalistic interlopers who are so totally blinded by their insane hatred of Jews.

62 abolitionist  5/20/08 2:38:07 pm reply quote

Did Hamas buy moveon.org ?

63 jamgarr  5/20/08 2:38:24 pm reply quote

Crap:

The Scourge of Carpathia - The Sorrow of Moldavia!

64 MandyManners  5/20/08 2:38:35 pm reply quote
65 goddessoftheclassroom  5/20/08 2:38:49 pm reply quote

re: #57 kuffarharbi

Vlad the impaler scared the shit out of the Turks by displaying 20.00o of their comrades' heads on stakes on the approach to his castle. In his unorthodox and intemperate way he held back the wave of jihad for awhile. They understood his language.

As for the smirking cockroach on Al-Agsa TV.....yawn, yawn, yawn. Bush, Bush, Bush. BDS par excellence. Massive projection. Everything he says about Bush here could be describing his own sorry self and his pals down in the seventh circle of hell.

Oh, no, he practiced preemptive attacks!
Disproportionate responses!
Asymmetrical warfare!

66 calcajun  5/20/08 2:39:40 pm reply quote

re: #57 kuffarharbi

He did not display the heads on stakes. He displayed the Turks on stakes, hence the epithet "Impaler", which was a pretty nasty way to get dispatched (though hear tell of people paying for it in San Fran).

67 shibumi  5/20/08 2:39:49 pm reply quote
The crimes of warlords like Mussolini, Hitler, and Franco cannot be compared to one quarter of Bush’s shoelace – let alone to his full height.

Bush thirsts for blood day and night. He derives pleasure from killing. He has surpassed all types of crimes and all sadistic traits.

Atallah. Dude. You might want to pick up a dictionary and read the definition of "hyperbole." Then after that, you might want to read a history book.

After you've finished that herculean task, maybe you should take a stress pill and stay in the house for a while.

68 Eowyn2  5/20/08 2:40:08 pm reply quote

"Minister of Culture"

thats all I can say

69 kuffarharbi  5/20/08 2:40:24 pm reply quote

re: #65 goddessoftheclassroom

Oh, no, he practiced preemptive attacks!
Disproportionate responses!
Asymmetrical warfare!

Yeah Vlad was the master of the disproportionate response. And it worked.

70 Dianna  5/20/08 2:40:54 pm reply quote

re: #60 calcajun

I don't recognize that? It reads like one of Wilde's sharper bits, though. Unless Byron was feeling more than usually cynical?

71 calcajun  5/20/08 2:41:02 pm reply quote

re: #59 jamgarr

Don't forget, the "My Bad of Macedonia"

72 goddessoftheclassroom  5/20/08 2:41:23 pm reply quote

re: #67 shibumi

Atallah. Dude. You might want to pick up a dictionary and read the definition of "hyperbole." Then after that, you might want to read a history book.

After you've finished that herculean task, maybe you should take a stress pill and stay in the house for a while.

Years ago, I gave a multi[le-choice test on figures of speech. One of the choices for "hyperbole" was "a football game for very excited players."

73 calcajun  5/20/08 2:41:26 pm reply quote

re: #70 Dianna

It is in fact, Byron.

74 savage_nation[deleted]  5/20/08 2:42:12 pm
75 shibumi  5/20/08 2:42:26 pm reply quote

re: #32 nikis-knight

Bush is The Count.
One terrorist supporting government toppled!
TWO terrorist supporting governments toppled!
...
Hmm, children, are there any more terrorist supporting governments to topple?
...
YES!
THREE! Three terrorist supporting governments toppled!

/7 months left...

LOL!

76 IowaInfidel  5/20/08 2:42:26 pm reply quote

So a muslim can believe in vampires? Is that allowed in islam? I know jinns are real according to islam, but vampires?

I think this guy should be brought up in front of a sharia court.

77 Dianna  5/20/08 2:43:09 pm reply quote

re: #66 calcajun

No, you don't. You hear about a lot of things, some done with objects, but not that.

Impalement on a short stake is beyond nightmare.

78 Dianna  5/20/08 2:44:22 pm reply quote

re: #73 calcajun

I don't pretend to an encyclopedic knowledge of the Romantics. Thanks.

79 calcajun  5/20/08 2:44:53 pm reply quote

re: #77 Dianna

probably a horribly slow and agonizing death. The only solace wold be for shock to set in quickly.

80 Whiterasta  5/20/08 2:45:09 pm reply quote

Aaaaah, he's just ticked off he did not get to taste a little taste of the 400 Million, delicious, tasty, yummy, sugar coated, US Taxpayer dollars that BushHitler gave to his pal Abu Abbas, or whatever his name is this week.

81 Ward Cleaver  5/20/08 2:45:37 pm reply quote

re: #31 UberInfidel67

For you Mandy:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

He knew how to stick it to 'em.

82 Dianna  5/20/08 2:45:55 pm reply quote

re: #79 calcajun

From the accounts I've read, horribly, it doesn't. Just nightmare stuff.

83 eon  5/20/08 2:46:04 pm reply quote
He makes decisions and has the audacity to call for the killing of life, and the killing of any person fighting for his right to live. That's Bush for you.

And this guy is a typical Islamist- defining "spending the last 1400 years trying to enslave and/or exterminate everyone on Earth who isn't exactly like them" as "fighting for (their) right to live".

That's Islam for you.

cheers

eon

84 shibumi  5/20/08 2:46:26 pm reply quote

re: #72 goddessoftheclassroom

Years ago, I gave a multi[le-choice test on figures of speech. One of the choices for "hyperbole" was "a football game for very excited players."

LOL!

That's just brilliant.

...and BTW, this guy does sound pretty excited, so he fits at least half of the wrong defiintiion!

85 Deafdog  5/20/08 2:46:40 pm reply quote

I just figured out what the paper was that he was flipping.....

.....it's the script for the new Michael Moore movie.

This was his audition!

86 goddessoftheclassroom  5/20/08 2:48:16 pm reply quote

re: #84 shibumi

LOL!

That's just brilliant.

...and BTW, this guy does sound pretty excited, so he fits at least half of the wrong defiintiion!

And now, for bonus points, what is the OPPOSITE of hyperbole (understatement)?

87 Capitalist Tool  5/20/08 2:48:20 pm reply quote

This important session is helping alleviate Global Warming by keeping me from mowing my lawn.

88 Izzy Dunne  5/20/08 2:48:44 pm reply quote

the oil that is being plundered


Somebody 'splain to me where this oil is going.

It sure ain't into MY tank...

89 Annar  5/20/08 2:49:22 pm reply quote

Get this guy a green card, he is prime material for Imam Obama's team, He'll help get our savior up to speed for those face to face encounters with all those middle east peace seekers so that surrender (our own and that of Israel) may be arranged during his first year in office.
/sarc

90 goddessoftheclassroom  5/20/08 2:52:07 pm reply quote

BBL

91 Kosh's Shadow  5/20/08 2:52:50 pm reply quote

American support of Israel is total. It gets to the point where the Israeli demands turn into resolutions adopted by the Security Council, under the complete auspices of America.

If this were true, this dipshit would be scattered into many little pieces, and Israel would have at least the land from the Mediterranean to the Jordan.
Is he too stupid to realize this, or just exaggerating?

92 buzzsawmonkey  5/20/08 2:55:46 pm reply quote

If Bush is indeed that bloodthirsty, the Hamasniks must be (Islamic) green with envy, given their own oft-self-proclaimed and oft-self-celebrated bloodthirstiness.

They're whining that they've been pwned.

93 David IV of Georgia  5/20/08 2:56:46 pm reply quote

(Disturbing)
Impaling is perhaps the most horrible form of torture ever devised. Some people lived over a week like that before infection, hunger and thirst killed them. Doctors were sometimes (mis-)used to ensure that nothing important was injured so that death would be slow. I'm not sure what Vlad did, but that's how the Ottoman Turks impaled.

94 Viking6  5/20/08 2:57:41 pm reply quote

re: #9 calcajun

Who else BHO

95 Dad O' Blondes  5/20/08 2:58:50 pm reply quote

re: #1 MandyManners

Didn't Vlad kick Muslim ass?

Yes, Vlad "the Impaler" kicked some major Muslim ass.

Vlad's nickname says it all. He impaled thousands of them on pikes and set them upright for miles down the roads leading to his castle/fortress.

And thus, the legend of "Dracula" was born.

.

96 astronmr20  5/20/08 2:58:55 pm reply quote

All your style guide and on-camera demeanor are belong to us.

97 Dianna  5/20/08 2:59:27 pm reply quote

re: #93 David IV of Georgia

The Romanians did it fairly recently, and I saw a picture from Africa in the last 20 years.

It's enough to weaken your faith in humanity. About the only thing I haven't seen used recently is crucifixion, for which we can all be grateful. It gives impalement a run for its money for lingering, agonizing and humiliating.

98 savage_nation[deleted]  5/20/08 3:00:55 pm
99 Dianna  5/20/08 3:01:34 pm reply quote

re: #95 Dad O' Blondes

Actually, that legend got born because, after a battle in which he was terribly wounded, Vlad Scorcinae was seen crawling from wounded to wounded and drinking their blood.

Vlad was...determined. He was probably nuts, too. He didn't just impale Turks, but pretty much anybody who annoyed him.

100 eon  5/20/08 3:01:52 pm reply quote

re: #79 calcajun

probably a horribly slow and agonizing death. The only solace wold be for shock to set in quickly.

Vlad used tall stakes, with blunt, rounded tips, greased with pig fat.

Nothing quick or easy about it.

He was a genuinely twisted b*****d, but considering the Rules of War practiced by his enemies, he was probably less extreme than he seems to us today.

As for the whole "vampire" mythos, that was created by Abraham (Bram) Stoker, pretty much out of whole cloth. Then and now, Vlad Tepes (The Impaler) is a national hero in Romania- the general whose counter-offensive vs. the Turks along the Danube into Bulgaria in 1461 threw them back out of Moldavia for the first time in a generation. When he fell, it was due to the treachery of his own kinsmen who sold him out to the Turks. The "vampire" part of the mythos that Stoker embellished was based on German tales about Vlad- they didn't like him much more than the Turks did.

He may have been pretty unbalanced by our standards (in fact, by any standards)- but at the time, the Muslim armies were terrified of him.

/In case you haven't guessed, I have an old and cherished copy of McNally and Florescu's book. And their book on Frankenstein as well.


cheers

eon

101 astronmr20  5/20/08 3:03:58 pm reply quote

re: #97 Dianna

The Romanians did it fairly recently, and I saw a picture from Africa in the last 20 years.

It's enough to weaken your faith in humanity. About the only thing I haven't seen used recently is crucifixion, for which we can all be grateful. It gives impalement a run for its money for lingering, agonizing and humiliating.

Think again. Christians in some parts of Africa have been recently crucified.

102 Dianna  5/20/08 3:04:58 pm reply quote

re: #100 eon

Stoker dressed it up, but Vlad came by his rep by his own efforts. And, of course, Vlad's blood drinking after a battle got twisted up with the Countess Bathory's exploits.

103 David IV of Georgia  5/20/08 3:05:59 pm reply quote

re: #97 Dianna

I've heard, all hearsay, that in parts of the Soviet/Eastern Block prisons crucifixion was sometimes done to mock Christianity. The reliable sources I've seen don't confirm this, however. There are plenty of methods just as brutal that take less work.

104 Dianna  5/20/08 3:06:17 pm reply quote

re: #101 astronmr20

I read something to that effect, but I have not yet seen a picture, or found an account I consider reliable.

Not that I'm looking. My ability to remain calm in the face of this stuff has rather faded in the last decade.

105 Dianna  5/20/08 3:07:12 pm reply quote

re: #103 David IV of Georgia

Yes, I think we've seen the same sources. Like you, I have not seen anything I consider reliable.

106 Plato  5/20/08 3:10:43 pm reply quote

The president tried in a way
To help give these people their say
Just like way back when
They blew it again
And threw all the goodwill away

It's way past the time to be sad
They ruined what goodness they had
They just couldn't see
It's nice just to be
To be nice and to stop being bad

107 calcajun  5/20/08 3:11:06 pm reply quote

re: #94 Viking6

Silly, slayers are supposed to be females. (Don't go there) Back to work, now.

108 eon  5/20/08 3:13:45 pm reply quote

re: #102 Dianna

Stoker dressed it up, but Vlad came by his rep by his own efforts. And, of course, Vlad's blood drinking after a battle got twisted up with the Countess Bathory's exploits.

No argument there. By McNally & Florescu's account, Tepes may have killed as many as 100,000 people (report of the Papal Nuncio, bishop of Erlau, in 1475). Including 40,000 of all ages, genders, and nationalities in a single "incident" at Buda in 1464. According to them, his entire principality had a total population of about half a million when he came to power- by the time he was deposed, one-fifth of the population was dead at his hands.

Considering all of the above, for the people of the region to still count him as a hero, I can only assume that what he did to their enemies was even worse.

cheers

eon

109 Dianna  5/20/08 3:15:42 pm reply quote

re: #108 eon

That does tend to give one pause, doesn't it?

110 Pshawalaw  5/20/08 3:15:54 pm reply quote

This Hamas accusation just bites.

111 Spiritualized  5/20/08 3:16:29 pm reply quote
Minister of Culture

This guy drew the short straw when the fake jobs were being handed out, didn't he?

I'm thinking he hasn't found any culture yet, hence the deranged ranting.

112 Sizzlack  5/20/08 3:16:55 pm reply quote

This guy can claim Bush drinks blood all he wants. As WE ALL REMEMBER, it was his Palestinian buddies who slaughtered an endangered turtle to do ahhwhat? Drink its blood!

113 Pshawalaw  5/20/08 3:17:34 pm reply quote

re: #95 Dad O' Blondes

I am finding a newfound respect for Dracula. And, yes, I know, I'm a baaaaad boy.

114 savage_nation[deleted]  5/20/08 3:19:30 pm
115 Natasha  5/20/08 3:20:01 pm reply quote

Hamas Minister of Culture.... The mingd boggles! Oh, they're a culture all right... The noxious kind that usually is found festering in a Petri dish.

116 RickZ  5/20/08 3:20:20 pm reply quote
Hamas TV: Bush is Dracula, a Vampire

Now c'mon. Who's really the bloodsuckers here?