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Tuesday Night Video: Vintage Keith Jarrett

Tue, May 20, 2008 at 6:54:20 pm PDT

I once had a girlfriend who heard me listening to this Keith Jarrett piece (from My Song), and said, “Eeeewww! You like that?”

Well, yeah, I do.

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1 Mambo Bananapatch  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:55:26pm

You had a girlfriend?

2 Mambo Bananapatch  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:56:12pm

I only ask because I'm a Web developer and I never had a girlfriend.

3 jcm  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:56:46pm

Ewwww! You like that?

*WHACK*
Stinkies stick hurts!

4 rcris5  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:56:47pm

"Once," as in past tense. Seems you have good judgment in relationships.

5 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:56:59pm

It sounds nothing like Kenny G.

6 Grammy Cracker  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:57:06pm

Well, I guess that's why she's a former girlfriend...

7 Killgore Trout  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:58:22pm

The pianist looks like Lionel Ritchie.

8 klywood  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:58:55pm

Phenomenal, amazing genius stuff. Thank G-d it doesn't sound like Kenny G.

9 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 20, 2008 6:58:58pm

I saw Keith Jarrett once at... Avery Fisher Hall, I think. Great stuff.

10 paxnhymn  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:01:37pm

now, music we agree on...Jarrett.

11 Roentgen  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:01:41pm

Glad to hear that this girlfriend is referred to in the past tense.

12 paxnhymn  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:03:25pm

Charles, you like Eberhard Weber & Colors?

13 Dr. Shalit  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:03:32pm

Charles -

I LOVE George T. and the Delaware Destroyers. 'Specially on "ROUNDER RECORDS" Vinyl.

-S-

14 bellamags  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:03:47pm

Its amazing they can play it again, just like that.

15 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:03:50pm

Of course, under sharia, this sort of thing will be banned, as Allah intended it.

16 Dr. Shalit  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:05:52pm

re: #15 Occasional Reader

"O-R" -

If that is the case, then Screw Sha'aria, and "Allah" as well. Joke 'em if they can't take a ....!

-S-

17 jcm  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:07:29pm

re: #15 Occasional Reader

Of course, under sharia, this sort of thing will be banned, as Allah intended it.

Whatever are you talking about?
/moonbat

"Allah did not create man so that he could have fun. The aim of creation was for mankind to be put to the test through hardship and prayer. An Islamic regime must be serious in every field. There are no jokes in Islam. There is no humor in Islam. There is no fun in Islam. There can be no fun and joy in whatever is serious."
-- Ayatollah Khomeini

18 jcm  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:09:13pm

re: #17 jcm

Whatever are you talking about?
/moonbat

"Allah did not create man so that he could have fun. The aim of creation was for mankind to be put to the test through hardship and prayer. An Islamic regime must be serious in every field. There are no jokes in Islam. There is no humor in Islam. There is no fun in Islam. There can be no fun and joy in whatever is serious."
-- Ayatollah Khomeini

May he rest in pieces.

19 Dr. Shalit  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:09:48pm

re: #17 jcm

jcm -

Pray tell - Khomeni Says "There are No Jokes in Islam." Dr. Shalit says - "Islam is NO JOKE!"

-S-

20 freetoken  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:09:49pm

Strangely, this piece sounds similar to how I expect the Democratic Convention will be...

21 jcm  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:10:30pm

re: #19 Dr. Shalit

jcm -

Pray tell - Khomeni Says "There are No Jokes in Islam." Dr. Shalit says - "Islam is NO JOKE!"

-S-

The humor of stan.

22 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:10:36pm

re: #17 jcm


Ayatollah Khomeini

Oh, come on, he was only kidding! That Ruhollah was always such a cut-up.

23 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:11:04pm
24 BignJames  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:11:27pm

re: #22 Occasional Reader

Yeah, funny as a tumor.

25 jcm  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:11:53pm

re: #22 Occasional Reader

Oh, come on, he was only kidding! That Ruhollah was always such a cut-up.

He was never the same after his last appearance.

26 Roentgen  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:12:29pm

"Allah did not create man so that he could have fun. The aim of creation was for mankind to be put to the test through hardship and prayer. An Islamic regime must be serious in every field. There are no jokes in Islam. There is no humor in Islam. There is no fun in Islam. There can be no fun and joy in whatever is serious."
-- Ayatollah Khomeini Beavis

27 Dr. Shalit  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:12:39pm

re: #20 freetoken

"free" -

I expect that the 2008 Democratic Convention will be a regular riot, Alice!
Like "Bang, Zoom, to the Moon." Hope I am proven wrong.

-S-

28 deeson windbladder  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:13:13pm

noise. sorry.

29 Occasional Reader  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:13:29pm

re: #25 jcm

He was never the same after his last appearance.

Yes, he took a tumble on that occasion, as I recall. Fortunately, the Ayatollah wasn't injured.

/stolen from Letterman from way back when

30 Roentgen  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:14:21pm

"Allah did not create man so that he could have fun. The aim of creation was for mankind to be put to the test through hardship and prayer. An Islamic regime must be serious in every field. There are no jokes in Islam. There is no humor in Islam. There is no fun in Islam. There can be no fun and joy in whatever is serious."
-- Ayatollah Khomeini

OMG! We are so-o-o screwed!

31 Dr. Shalit  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:14:30pm

re: #26 Roentgen

"Ron" -

So, Khomeni is "BUTTHEAD" Not surprised!

-S-

32 joecitizen  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:15:02pm

re: #5 Killgore Trout

It sounds nothing like Kenny G.

thank God for that!

33 Roentgen  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:15:20pm

re: #31 Dr. Shalit

"Ron" -

So, Khomeni is "BUTTHEAD" Not surprised!

-S-


Ah-haa! Ipso facto!

34 Racer X  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:15:43pm

Music is math.

This is is a bunch of complex calculations.

I dig it.

35 Killian Bundy  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:15:59pm

Daily Kos Photochop Depicts Michelle Obama Being Tortured by Klan Members

Yesterday, Barack Obama began crying again. Someone should remind him... there's no crying in politics. He has whined that we can't use his middle name, he has whined when we bring up his close relations with aging hippy terrorists, that we ask aloud about his "spiritual mentor, the racist Rev. Jeremiah Wright, and now he is crying that we are highlighting the anti-American statements made by his wife as she campaigns for him all across the country. So, on Monday he whined "lay off my wife,". Well, fast on the heels of Obama telling us we can't use the anti-American statements of his wife as a campaign issue we get the kiddies over at the DailyKos doing their best to "help" Barack Obama by making an image of Michelle Obama hanging from a tree with robbed KKK figures torturing her with a branding iron and claiming that this is the "NEW IMPROVED" GOP strategy. So much for the subtleties and civility that Barack claims he wants, eh?

Even more damning, Kos pulled the entire post off the website, photochopped image of Michelle as KKK victim and all. Little Green Footballs has a great screen shot of the original post, but here is the original photochopped image:

/busted

36 jcm  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:16:51pm

re: #29 Occasional Reader

Yes, he took a tumble on that occasion, as I recall. Fortunately, the Ayatollah wasn't injured.

/stolen from Letterman from way back when

IIRC some "souvenirs" were obtained on that occasion by exuberant mourners.

37 Roentgen  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:18:24pm

re: #35 Killian Bundy

Daily Kos Photochop Depicts Michelle Obama Being Tortured by Klan Members


/busted


Web pages come and go on Kos like client 9 on a business trip.

38 Dr. Shalit  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:20:20pm

re: #33 Roentgen

"Ron" -

In my small mind like - "RES IPSA LOQUITOR!"

-S-

39 snowcrash  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:21:22pm

I'm sure there were other things you had in common.

40 Pastorius  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:29:17pm

If you ever find a video of Arbour Zena, please post it.

41 flipflop  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:30:51pm

And now we know where the phrase "close enough for jazz" comes from.

42 LEGION  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:42:41pm

20 seconds and I went "ewwww" too. So still got the old girlfriends #?

43 spankaccount  Tue, May 20, 2008 7:56:00pm

I find non-melodic music very challenging. This comes across as technical, and written for academics.

44 David IV of Georgia  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:10:50pm
"Allah did not create man so that he could have fun. The aim of creation was for mankind to be put to the test through hardship and prayer. An Islamic regime must be serious in every field. There are no jokes in Islam. There is no humor in Islam. There is no fun in Islam. There can be no fun and joy in whatever is serious."
-- Ayatollah Khomeini

I'm sure he will enjoy his serious non-fun humorless afterlife. Dante claimed it was cold near that throne. Mohammed claimed it to be quite hot. Either way, it is serious non-fun.

45 David IV of Georgia  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:11:40pm

Unresolved cords bouncing around in my head...

46 Sharmuta  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:30:57pm

Dig Keith's crazy 'fro!

47 Timbre  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:35:52pm

If hurricanes, earthquakes, global melting, and Jihadist whordes (sic) don't destroy the world, I'm going to buy a curved bell soprano saxophone and rule the world from my practice room!

48 Macker  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:40:20pm

Charles: do you have any music videos with you jammin'?

49 Abu Al-Poopypants  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:43:55pm

re: #12 paxnhymn

Charles, you like Eberhard Weber & Colors?

Weber reportedly had a stroke within the past year and can no longer play. :^(

50 Catttt  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:47:07pm

Different strokes, Charles. Definitely different strokes time. Whew.

51 wvobiwan  Tue, May 20, 2008 8:48:52pm

Ugh. First time I've had to disagree with Charles on his musical tastes.

Too cluttered, introverted, and technical for me.

52 Abu Al-Poopypants  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:00:31pm

Something a little more sedate, also with Jan Garbarek on reeds:

Live in Burghausen 2006

Live in Warsaw 1994 , pt. 1

Live in Warsaw 1994 , pt. 2

53 Boogberg  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:18:48pm

Well I've got the headphones on and I'm listening to All the World's a Stage (Rush). It ain't pristine digital but hey, it was over 30 years ago. You can purchase the double live album at Amazon. 8 bucks. :D

54 Boogberg  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:26:43pm

re: #1 Mambo Bananapatch

You had a girlfriend?

After seeing Charles on TV, that's a good question. :D

55 ShowMeStateOfMind  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:34:48pm

wait just a cotton pickin' moment... Charles used to have GIRLFRIEND! No way! I thought he was a music & tech geek! No girlfriends for him! ;)

56 Boogberg  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:54:45pm

Well if he'd get a frickin' haircut, what's not to like? :D

57 socratease  Tue, May 20, 2008 9:59:34pm

I'm sorry, I just can't get that music to parse.

58 zombie  Tue, May 20, 2008 10:15:06pm
I once had a girlfriend who heard me listening to this Keith Jarrett piece (from My Song), and said, “Eeeewww! You like that?”

Well, yeah, I do

Hate to say it, but I gotta side with the girlfriend on this one. Keith Jarrett may be a genius an' all, but this kind of ultra-modern jazz is borderline unlistenable to me. Not that I have a visceral revulsion for it, I'd just much rather listen to something else -- something with a regular meter, something with a recognizable melody, something with a song structure that doesn't make you feel like an extra in Shock Corridor.

I'm all for jazz up until the mid-'50s. After that -- too self-indulgent for my taste.

59 tchad  Tue, May 20, 2008 11:36:40pm

I actually tried giving Jarrett's Koln Concert to a girlfriend-candidate. The music is easily accessible. You don't even have to like jazz to love Koln. How could she not find it as astonishing as I did?

"Um yeah thanks that was real pretty. Where are we going for dinner?"

60 Sprite  Wed, May 21, 2008 12:31:27am

To Charles,

I doubt you'll ever see this message, ....but,

For several years now at LGF I've wanted to thank you So Very Much (!) for honoring Keith Jarrett. Ahhhh. I am a self-taught piano player. I bought Keith's cd, and later, book of sheet music titled "Koln Concert" too many years ago to count. It is my favorite Keith improv......... It is superb!

Thank you, Charles Johnson. Not only do you keep me informed....but you also remind me that music will manage to keep us happy and sane.

Thank you!

61 Sprite  Wed, May 21, 2008 12:33:12am

re: #58 zombie

You'll readily hear the melody if you listen, Zombie. How could you not?

62 fooburger  Wed, May 21, 2008 12:45:52am

I really like the guitar links... and the Brecker links... but I just can't deal with modern jazz. Arrhythmic, tonally random, themeless void is what I'd call it.

What was the point of more than one instrument playing there anyways? And that annoying random drumming-ish stuff in the background.

Sorry... couldn't stand it... and the grimaces of pain didn't really get me either.

63 Ledger1  Wed, May 21, 2008 2:41:40am

Will Obama lose a delegate?

It’s a bummer that Ted Kennedy has brain cancer. I know - my cousin died from brain cancer.

As to the political ramifications of the situation I can’t find much information. Bloomberg notes it will just slow down some legislation but not for long.

[Bloomberg]

Senator Edward Kennedy's brain cancer will, for now, deprive Democrats of one of their strongest legislative leaders and presidential candidate Barack Obama of his most iconic supporter. Legislation granting new union rights to police and firefighters that Kennedy was shepherding through Congress stalled this week and a measure to reauthorize higher-education programs also will be put off at least until after the Memorial Day recess, Senate aides and analysts said.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid was already struggling to push an agenda while having only a 51-49 majority and two Democrats, Obama and New York Senator Hillary Clinton often away campaigning. Kennedy's absence cuts the Democratic margin and sidelines one of the party's best negotiators, said Jack Pitney, a political science professor at Claremont McKenna College in Claremont, California.

Kennedy's Illness Slows Democratic Agenda, Idles Obama Ally

Who is the likely replacement for Ted Kennedy in the Senate?

Which committees will be affected the most?

Is Kennedy a super delegate?

What happens if Kennedy doesn’t make to the convention?

64 godfrey  Wed, May 21, 2008 3:34:34am

I love it. It sounds like a party where everyone is buzzing with ideas.

65 sparrowlake  Wed, May 21, 2008 5:46:40am

The music is very interesting and engaging.
The pianist's constant moaning and groaning is distracting and downright ugly.

66 littleO  Wed, May 21, 2008 6:08:40am

"you like that"? My God, my brain is puny but orderly.

67 chinesearithmetic  Wed, May 21, 2008 6:42:47am

I'll be seeing Keith Jarrett again when he comes east this fall. My, "Eeew, you like that?" moment was during the first season of Saturday Night Live, when Kate and Anna McGarrigle were on and two girls in front of me went, "They're so weird."

68 Lawrence Schmerel  Wed, May 21, 2008 6:49:21am

I am not fooled by these clowns. That is not a real song. They are just making it up as they go along.

69 CowardKerry  Wed, May 21, 2008 8:30:54am

I think your girlfriend has good taste in music.

70 Charles  Wed, May 21, 2008 9:11:12am

Heh. I'm shocked that most people don't like this. Shocked!

But if you think this is atonal jazz, wait until you hear Anthony Braxton.

71 wrenchwench  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:01:14am
“Eeeewww! You like that?”

I only say that about Nine Inch Nails.

:)

72 SuprKufr  Wed, May 21, 2008 1:58:51pm

That music is horrible. It's insultingly bad.

Why do I say "insultingly" bad? Let me explain.

A long time ago, what we today call "Classical music" was called "music". It was codified and had rules. Over time, those rules would gradually start being violated as more and more innovative features to what was previously called "music" started to be added. "Classical" music became "romantic", which became "impressionistic" (which correlated with the impressionist period in art). Come to think of it, take a look at Monet's early work and watch it evolve. It starts off as true impressions of ideas and slowly disintegrates into blogs of formless color. After Monet died, art became even worse. Art's so-called "pinnacle" is that talentless shit-eater Jackson Pollack, who paints meaningless blobs. But "art culture" demands that you like it or be considered uncultured, and that's why people pretend to like it. It's faux-appreciation for the sake of social approval.

Basically, the same thing happened with music. More and more rules were broken until there were no more rules. Things like "a good melody" and "tension and release" were deemed too restrictive, probably because everything had pretty much been written. You couldn't write any more music that didn't already resemble something else.

So these ersatz composers started making up new rules. They "wrote" music by throwing dice, for instance. The result? Garbage, of course. The concept of writing music that way was much more interesting than the execution. And "cultured" music people (who "like" jazz to show off their sophistication) pretend to like this kind of garbage, because that's what they need to do in order to prove that they're cultured. Again, faux appreciation for the sake of social approval.

So, no, I simply don't believe that anyone genuinely likes this music, because I've seen far too many people pretend to like "music" that has no pattern, no form, no phrasing, no tension/release, no melody, and no structure. It's not music. It's equivalent to a bunch of those "spoken word" douchebags start ranting all at once and calling that "music". Wouldn't that be new and innovative to call that "music"? Someone once "wrote" a "piece" of "music" that was nothing but silence. I'm not kidding. It was a serious artistic musical work which was nothing but silence. Music!

I consider it insulting to call this music.

The only thing worse than that is Contemporary Christian Music. Jesus Christ slits his wrists when people sing those abortiony "praise songs".

73 64warhorse  Wed, May 21, 2008 2:53:01pm

Hmmm ... while I can appreciate that there is a considerable amount of skill involved in creating something like this piece, I fear that it is too lacking in melody to hold much interest for me. What the heck, if everybody thought like me, the world would be a lot less interesting. Glad you liked it ... :-)

74 Abu Al-Poopypants  Wed, May 21, 2008 7:40:06pm

#72, was that a put-on?
Fail, in any case.


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