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Wed, May 21, 2008 at 3:12:48 am PDT
Work without hope draws nectar in a sieve,
And hope without an object cannot live.
— Samuel Taylor Coleridge
750 comments
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BlueCanuck Wed, May 21, 2008 3:17:14am |
Dang, I think the auto quote function has ingested a dose of Hopium.
/can't remember it's half-life
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merav Wed, May 21, 2008 3:17:52am |
ISRAEL OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCES PEACE TALKS WITH SYRIA
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
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goddessoftheclassroom Wed, May 21, 2008 3:19:11am |
Good morning, Lizards, especially
{galloping granny}
{Blue Canuck}
{merav}
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redc1c4 Wed, May 21, 2008 3:19:45am |
re: #2 BlueCanuck
Dang, I think the auto quote function has ingested a dose of Hopium.
/can't remember it's half-life
it's not like you've been poasting this evening anyway...
/whipped already?
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Karridine Wed, May 21, 2008 3:19:59am |
re: #2 BlueCanuck
Dang, I think the auto quote function has ingested a dose of Hopium./can't remember it's half-life
Better than Governmentium! :D
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Onslow Wed, May 21, 2008 3:20:08am |
Today is the Champions League final. May the best English team win.
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BlueCanuck Wed, May 21, 2008 3:20:09am |
Morning {goddess}
/just getting in a last couple of posts before hometime.
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redc1c4 Wed, May 21, 2008 3:20:54am |
re: #3 merav
ISRAEL OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCES PEACE TALKS WITH SYRIA
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
does this mean that Zahal has taken Damascus?
/wishful
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BlueCanuck Wed, May 21, 2008 3:20:59am |
re: #6 redc1c4
it's not like you've been poasting this evening anyway...
/whipped already?
Nope, unable to concentrate for some reason.
/need more sleep.
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 3:22:02am |
re: #4 rightside
gg, you beat me to it LOL!
I was surprised to see that :)
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 3:22:48am |
Morning Goddess. How comes the garden?
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Karridine Wed, May 21, 2008 3:23:21am |
Here's the written documentation for Governmentium, and here's an MP3 for Governmentium!
Enjoy, Blue!
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rightside Wed, May 21, 2008 3:23:49am |
re: #12 galloping granny
Um, I was up getting coffee...Yeah! that's it!
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stuiec Wed, May 21, 2008 3:25:09am |
Sorry to mention He-Who-Should-Not-Be-Named, but...
... the result in Oregon wasn't even close.
I wish it had been, or even that she'd managed a win there, because that would have caused a sea-change in the campaign and forced Vobamamort to tack over to bring all his guns to bear on the She-Beast. (I know, I know, mixing Harry Potter and nautical metaphors. It's early, don't yell at me.)
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Karridine Wed, May 21, 2008 3:25:53am |
re: #13 galloping granny
No, no Granny!
Like this:
"Morning, Goddess, good to see you, how does your garden grow?
With silver bells and cockle shells and Bat-eared O'bammies all in a row?"
/somethin' like that...
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goddessoftheclassroom Wed, May 21, 2008 3:25:59am |
re: #13 galloping granny
Morning Goddess. How comes the garden?
It's on pause right now. I'm too overwhelmed with the end of school to think about it, but my Lizard-in-Training did dig out most of the thistles Monday.
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merav Wed, May 21, 2008 3:26:33am |
#5 goddess,
Good morning!
#11, redc1c4,
LOL! I just don't think chinless is that smart, though.
Thanks for the early morning laugh!
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stuiec Wed, May 21, 2008 3:27:46am |
re: #3 merav
ISRAEL OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCES PEACE TALKS WITH SYRIA
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
Seems to me that the Syrians have no reason to make a peace deal with Israel at the moment. Given that they've just won back their kingmaker role in Lebanon, it's hardly a propitious time for Baby Assad to cut a deal that would require him to cut off ties to Hezbollah, and yet the Israelis would insist on nothing less.
/back to sleep
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goddessoftheclassroom Wed, May 21, 2008 3:28:23am |
re: #17 Karridine
Gotc, Gotc, quite the hottie*,
How does your garden grow?
With silver bells and cockle shells and moonbats all in a row?
*I'm only going for a close rhyme; my degree of "hotness" is not for mee to say!
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BlueCanuck Wed, May 21, 2008 3:29:07am |
re: #21 goddessoftheclassroom
You are as hot as you feel. :)
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 3:29:13am |
re: #16 stuiec
Sorry to mention He-Who-Should-Not-Be-Named, but...
... the result in Oregon wasn't even close.
I wish it had been, or even that she'd managed a win there, because that would have caused a sea-change in the campaign and forced Vobamamort to tack over to bring all his guns to bear on the She-Beast. (I know, I know, mixing Harry Potter and nautical metaphors. It's early, don't yell at me.)
Oregon holds their primary in a pretty unusual way. Everybody votes by mail. That seems to me to be a method wide open for abuse, so I'm not all that sure how much credence I give the results at all.
On top of that, Oregon is right up there with Berkeley & Washington state when it comes to the loon factor. Definitely a part of the Left Coast. I suspect that the views of my pretty liberal state (Vermont) are much closer to the national consensus and Barack Hussein Obama is not popular here. So much so that the last time I was down at the only grocery store in town the folks one checkout over were all talking about how they could not possibly vote for Obama because he is a Marxist.
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 3:30:31am |
re: #16 stuiec
Sorry to mention He-Who-Should-Not-Be-Named, but...
... the result in Oregon wasn't even close.
I wish it had been, or even that she'd managed a win there, because that would have caused a sea-change in the campaign and forced Vobamamort to tack over to bring all his guns to bear on the She-Beast. (I know, I know, mixing Harry Potter and nautical metaphors. It's early, don't yell at me.)
And actually it was fairly close if you look at the delegates. He got 14 in Kentucky and she beat him two to one plus a couple. In Oregon she took 17 to his 25 or so - much closer.
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opnion Wed, May 21, 2008 3:30:39am |
Good Morning All.
I missed the last thread & probably every thing has been said.
What I was struck by was the nice looking family being rolled out & the soothing speech.
If you nothing about, Wright ,Rezko, Ayers, Michelles rants, Barrys prior Maxist lectures etc. you could get sucked in. That crowd did. How could they not know what we do?
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stuiec Wed, May 21, 2008 3:31:29am |
re: #17 Karridine
No, no Granny!
Like this:
/somethin' like that...
An evil thought...
My wife was scared as a child by some old sci-fi B movie on TV -- maybe It Conquered the World or Zontar, Thing from Venus -- where the alien entity sent out bat-things that wrapped themselves around people's heads and turned them into white-eyed zombies.
I shall have to tell her how much Obama's ears make him look like one of those bat-things...
BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA!
/wondering why he has no sex life
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Karridine Wed, May 21, 2008 3:31:49am |
re: #21 goddessoftheclassroom
Hey! No apologies accepted, it scans AND rhymes...
Moonbats all in a row! (personally, I doubt you could herd them into close quarters, what with their aversion to order, orderliness and following rational orders, Goddess!)
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 3:32:35am |
re: #26 stuiec
An evil thought...
My wife was scared as a child by some old sci-fi B movie on TV -- maybe It Conquered the World or Zontar, Thing from Venus -- where the alien entity sent out bat-things that wrapped themselves around people's heads and turned them into white-eyed zombies.
I shall have to tell her how much Obama's ears make him look like one of those bat-things...
BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA!
/wondering why he has no sex life
I will not comment on his ears. Too many in my family have those ears.
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stuiec Wed, May 21, 2008 3:34:09am |
re: #23 galloping granny
Oregon holds their primary in a pretty unusual way. Everybody votes by mail. That seems to me to be a method wide open for abuse, so I'm not all that sure how much credence I give the results at all.
On top of that, Oregon is right up there with Berkeley & Washington state when it comes to the loon factor. Definitely a part of the Left Coast. I suspect that the views of my pretty liberal state (Vermont) are much closer to the national consensus and Barack Hussein Obama is not popular here. So much so that the last time I was down at the only grocery store in town the folks one checkout over were all talking about how they could not possibly vote for Obama because he is a Marxist.
Wait... what?
Isn't Bernie Sanders a Marxist, and didn't your fellow Vermonters elect him to something or other in Congress?
Or are the folks at the cracker barrel saying that Obama is too much Marxist, even by Vermont standards?
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goddessoftheclassroom Wed, May 21, 2008 3:34:41am |
re: #27 Karridine
Hey! No apologies accepted, it scans AND rhymes...
Moonbats all in a row! (personally, I doubt you could herd them into close quarters, what with their aversion to order, orderliness and following rational orders, Goddess!)
My Goddess Glare can achieve great things...(LOL!)
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 3:36:08am |
FOX is just now reporting live that Bush has apologized to Maliki over the shooting of the koran incident and promised that the soldier will be prosecuted.
/so much for the denial of yesterday!
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Karridine Wed, May 21, 2008 3:36:19am |
re: #25 opnion
Opnion, Hussein was talking to OREGON, also known as 'Moonbat Central'... a REAL STRONGHOLD for LLL, oddballs, weirdos, rabid individualists, Democrats, socialists, marxists, conspiracy-theorists, alien abductees and a smattering of normal people...
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redc1c4 Wed, May 21, 2008 3:38:33am |
re: #31 galloping granny
FOX is just now reporting live that Bush has apologized to Maliki over the shooting of the koran incident and promised that the soldier will be prosecuted.
/so much for the denial of yesterday!
i' claim it was political speech protected under the 1st amendment...
/assuming i was that dumb to begin with.
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merav Wed, May 21, 2008 3:41:18am |
re: #20 stuiec
I don't see this as a propitious time for Syria to negotiate either, but since their "negotiations" would never be in good faith anyway, and are influenced by Iran, commonsense would never enter into it.
Iran and Syria just want to deprive Israel of the Golan. They can say it's for sovereignty issues, or even security, but I think it's 'cause they want all that yummy Golani wine that Israel produces.
Off to work. Nice day, everyone.
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stuiec Wed, May 21, 2008 3:41:46am |
re: #24 galloping granny
And actually it was fairly close if you look at the delegates. He got 14 in Kentucky and she beat him two to one plus a couple. In Oregon she took 17 to his 25 or so - much closer.
'T'ain't about delegate totals anymore. It's about casting doubt on his electability, therefore his inevitability.
My personal wish and fervent desire is that all of the Democrat superdelegates get ulcers and mild clinical depression from the anxiety over choosing their candidate, and that the supporters of each candidate are mobbed outside the Convention Center with pitchforks and torches to remind those superdelegates of the dire consequences of picking the wrong (i.e., other) candidate. I want to see the Democrat Party undergo an irrevocable split -- possibly a three-way split between Hillary socialists, Obama Marxists, and Truman-Scoop Jackson patriots.
(By the way, do you recall the children's book Millions of Cats by Wanda Gag? Exactly the scenario I want to see... except without the forlorn kitten emerging as the consensus candidate.)
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 3:42:08am |
re: #29 stuiec
Wait... what?
Isn't Bernie Sanders a Marxist, and didn't your fellow Vermonters elect him to something or other in Congress?
Or are the folks at the cracker barrel saying that Obama is too much Marxist, even by Vermont standards?
Bernie certainly has socialist leanings. I'm not so sure I would call him a Marxist.
My daughter and I went and looked up Obama's voting record a couple of days back and were very surprised to find the astoundingly large number of NOVOTEs (as in he voted present or not at all) that this Senator who has yet to serve a single term has to his credit. Over 100 of them!
So, we went and looked up Bernie Sanders by way of comparison. In all the years that he has served in the Senate combined he has missed or refused to cast a vote a grand total of FIVE times.
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 3:42:59am |
re: #33 jemima
#28
OT Granny, will you shoot me an email?
Morning Jem. Yup. Will send it from the online account because the other one is being hokey.
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goddessoftheclassroom Wed, May 21, 2008 3:43:46am |
re: #36 stuiec
Millions of Cats
[Link: www.amazon.com...]
I haven't thought of that in DECADES! I loved that book!
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opnion Wed, May 21, 2008 3:46:15am |
re: #32 Karridine
Opnion, Hussein was talking to OREGON, also known as 'Moonbat Central'... a REAL STRONGHOLD for LLL, oddballs, weirdos, rabid individualists, Democrats, socialists, marxists, conspiracy-theorists, alien abductees and a smattering of normal people...
I thought that the speech was from Iowa. I do see what you mean though. He was thanking Oregon for the victory.Oregon is way far left of the American center.
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jemima Wed, May 21, 2008 3:47:56am |
#38
I know! I got bounces all day long from the 1 note I sent.
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stuiec Wed, May 21, 2008 3:48:44am |
re: #25 opnion
Good Morning All.
I missed the last thread & probably every thing has been said.
What I was struck by was the nice looking family being rolled out & the soothing speech.
If you nothing about, Wright ,Rezko, Ayers, Michelles rants, Barrys prior Maxist lectures etc. you could get sucked in. That crowd did. How could they not know what we do?
Dude, you're kidding, right?
All the folks in that crowd see is Obama's skin color. They are so wrapped up in their guilt over America's "original sin" of slavery and its "racist character" that they will overlook, rationalize or forgive anything Obama says, does or is in order to receive absolution for that guilt by electing him.
And if he loses -- hey, it just reaffirms how RIGHT they've been all along to believe that America is a racist society.
Objective knowledge and rational understanding have nothing to do with it -- nothing.
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opnion Wed, May 21, 2008 3:49:18am |
re: #31 galloping granny
FOX is just now reporting live that Bush has apologized to Maliki over the shooting of the koran incident and promised that the soldier will be prosecuted.
/so much for the denial of yesterday!
I heard the apology part. Did Bush really say that the soldier would be prosecuted?
If he did I wonder what venue.
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RedSoxNation Wed, May 21, 2008 3:49:35am |
Problem with big speech leadership...
Earl Weaver, the Hall-of-Fame Manager for the Baltimore Orioles, once noted that he despised the big speech at a team meeting before a game. The problem, according to Weaver, "is that if you lose the next game after the meeting, then what do you do?"
I feel the same way about Obama and his big speeches on meeting with the leaders of Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea, etc. If he gains nothing from these meetings, "then what does he do?"
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Karridine Wed, May 21, 2008 3:50:22am |
re: #40 opnion
He's almost always talking PAST the immediate crowd, Op... he might be at Whissle-Stop Gulch, southern Outback, but if Obama Supporters (and reporters) are there, he'll pitch a Socialist Dream or two...
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goddessoftheclassroom Wed, May 21, 2008 3:50:29am |
re: #43 opnion
I heard the apology part. Did Bush really say that the soldier would be prosecuted?
If he did I wonder what venue.
I wonder whether that soldier disobeyed an order concerning defiling the quran. He would be prosecuted not for shooting it up as much as for insubordination.
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 3:51:05am |
re: #39 goddessoftheclassroom
Millions of Cats
[Link: www.amazon.com...]
I haven't thought of that in DECADES! I loved that book!
I remember that one. We have a copy of it somewhere in the kiddie library. Speaking of, I guess I better find the kiddie library since the littlest iis coming to spend a week with Granny soon.
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 3:52:26am |
re: #41 jemima
#38
I know! I got bounces all day long from the 1 note I sent.
did you get my email the other day telling you that the email address I've been using is no longer active? the one where the provider's name starts with @su ?
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 3:53:13am |
re: #46 goddessoftheclassroom
I wonder whether that soldier disobeyed an order concerning defiling the quran. He would be prosecuted not for shooting it up as much as for insubordination.
He has already been subjected to military discipline.
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hhc 2-2 scr Wed, May 21, 2008 3:54:38am |
galloping granny,
From reading a number of your post I gather your rather a gardening guru, maybe you can help me out.
We live in Germany and I have a bunch of lilies in my garden, they are being plagued by this red beetle type bug that kinda sings when held. Not only does it eat the leaves but it also lays its eggs on the leaves and when they hatch the larvae eat the leaves until adult form to continue eating. Besides pesticides, which are frowned upon here, how can I get rid of these things. Getting tired of washing the red blotch of the patio from squishing them, although I must admit it is a little gratifying. Have also found that throwing them in the pond doesn't work unless they land on their back, they swim quite well.
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opnion Wed, May 21, 2008 3:54:52am |
re: #42 stuiec
Dude, you're kidding, right?
All the folks in that crowd see is Obama's skin color. They are so wrapped up in their guilt over America's "original sin" of slavery and its "racist character" that they will overlook, rationalize or forgive anything Obama says, does or is in order to receive absolution for that guilt by electing him.
And if he loses -- hey, it just reaffirms how RIGHT they've been all along to believe that America is a racist society.
Objective knowledge and rational understanding have nothing to do with it -- nothing.
That is kind of what I meant. Of course they know all of the negatives.
The problem is that they do not consider the issues to be negatives. You know that they have to think that Wright & Ayers are good guys & that Michelle is right.
It really does not matter, Barrys race trumps all.
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 3:56:49am |
re: #43 opnion
I heard the apology part. Did Bush really say that the soldier would be prosecuted?
If he did I wonder what venue.
This story first broke a couple of days ago. Then yesterday the Whitehouse issued a statement contradicting that. We were discussing it on yesterday's DT then the first thread the Charles put up yesterday was about this.
Every version of the original Bush apologized story also says the soldier in question will be prosecuted.
I must say I am pretty surprised to see the White House denial completely and entirely ignored by Fox.
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godfrey Wed, May 21, 2008 3:57:02am |
re: #44 RedSoxNation
What will he do then? Make more speeches, of course.
To Obama, it's more important to say the right thing than to do it. It's not like there's anything important at stake.
Remember, this is a guy who has essentially accomplished nothing himself. He has been handled.
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Karridine Wed, May 21, 2008 3:58:23am |
re: #50 hhc 2-2 scr
You might try applying a froth of dish-washing soapy foam... to the affected (infected, egg-carrying) leaves...
Taking a blowtorch to them is a bit extreme, although it does work...
Does making a paste of the adults and spreading THAT on the larvae deter them?
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opnion Wed, May 21, 2008 3:59:44am |
re: #46 goddessoftheclassroom
I wonder whether that soldier disobeyed an order concerning defiling the quran. He would be prosecuted not for shooting it up as much as for insubordination.
Insubordination would probably be the charges. Would Bush actually give the soldier up to Iraqi justice? I doubt it.
If he did there would be a humiliating show trial, demoralising all of our troops in country.
I could see the soldier sentnced to death & then magnanimously recieve a suspended sentence, maybe due to Iranian humanitarian intervention.
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Karridine Wed, May 21, 2008 4:00:13am |
re: #51 opnion
That is kind of what I meant. Of course they know all of the negatives.
The problem is that they do not consider the issues to be negatives. You know that they have to think that Wright & Ayers are good guys & that Michelle is right.
It really does not matter, Barry's race trumps all.
Wow, when did America enslave Arabs or Arab-Kenyan Americans?
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 4:00:39am |
re: #50 hhc 2-2 scr
galloping granny,
From reading a number of your post I gather your rather a gardening guru, maybe you can help me out.
We live in Germany and I have a bunch of lilies in my garden, they are being plagued by this red beetle type bug that kinda sings when held. Not only does it eat the leaves but it also lays its eggs on the leaves and when they hatch the larvae eat the leaves until adult form to continue eating. Besides pesticides, which are frowned upon here, how can I get rid of these things. Getting tired of washing the red blotch of the patio from squishing them, although I must admit it is a little gratifying. Have also found that throwing them in the pond doesn't work unless they land on their back, they swim quite well.
Oh I can help you but you might not like the answer. Those are called red lily beetles and they are very invasive. I had them here last year. They are also pretty fithy - one stage carries their poop around on their back. You can try handpicking them off the lilies. I ended up last year cutting down the lilies and putting the whole stem into a big ziplock until everything disintegrated. Then I sent it off to the landfill. The lillies are back this year.
I try not to use chemicals and the lilies here also happen to be very close to my herb garden. If you don't have those concerns you might find something you can try to kill them with.
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Jim in Virginia Wed, May 21, 2008 4:00:53am |
re: #10 redc1c4
does this mean that Zahal has taken Damascus?
/wishful
Talking is not necessarily good. Talking from a position of strength is not necessarily bad. The Israelis bombed the Nork nuke site in the Syrian desert back in September. So far the Syrians have done...nothing.
Who knows, maybe we can split Assad from Teheran.
/Dr. Pangloss mode off
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 4:01:18am |
re: #54 Karridine
You might try applying a froth of dish-washing soapy foam... to the affected (infected, egg-carrying) leaves...
Taking a blowtorch to them is a bit extreme, although it does work...
Does making a paste of the adults and spreading THAT on the larvae deter them?
Soap does not work on red lily beetles :(
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Karridine Wed, May 21, 2008 4:02:53am |
re: #50 hhc 2-2 scr
I defer to Granny. Period.
Cut 'em down, bag it up, let it rot, and await the glorious growback.
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 4:03:02am |
re: #56 Karridine
Wow, when did America enslave Arabs or Arab-Kenyan Americans?
Arabs DID, however, enslave Americans. Quite some large number of us. A big enough number to send us to war. You've heard of the Shores of Tripoli I'm sure . . .
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hhc 2-2 scr Wed, May 21, 2008 4:03:28am |
re: #54 Karridine
You might try applying a froth of dish-washing soapy foam... to the affected (infected, egg-carrying) leaves...
Taking a blowtorch to them is a bit extreme, although it does work...
Does making a paste of the adults and spreading THAT on the larvae deter them?
I'm not sure of the ratio for soap versus water and I really don't want to kill them.
Yeah, blowtorching would be pretty extreme. As for the paste ewww, but very interesting, hmmm... I wonder.
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 4:04:26am |
re: #62 hhc 2-2 scr
I'm not sure of the ratio for soap versus water and I really don't want to kill them.
Yeah, blowtorching would be pretty extreme. As for the paste ewww, but very interesting, hmmm... I wonder.
Oh yes you DO want to kill them. Absolutely and unequivocally.
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opnion Wed, May 21, 2008 4:04:34am |
re: #61 galloping granny
Arabs DID, however, enslave Americans. Quite some large number of us. A big enough number to send us to war. You've heard of the Shores of Tripoli I'm sure . . .
That is why Thomas Jefferson bought a Koran, to learn how the enemy thinks
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 4:06:45am |
re: #64 opnion
That is why Thomas Jefferson bought a Koran, to learn how the enemy thinks
He must have been spinning to see that koran used to swear in a congressperson.
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Jim in Virginia Wed, May 21, 2008 4:07:39am |
re: #63 galloping granny
Oh yes you DO want to kill them. Absolutely and unequivocally.
Are we talking about beetles or some other vermin?
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 4:09:23am |
re: #68 Jim in Virginia
Are we talking about beetles or some other vermin?
red lily beetles. Nasty, disgusting things! Though that applies to other vermin too.
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BlueCanuck Wed, May 21, 2008 4:10:13am |
re: #68 Jim in Virginia
Are we talking about beetles or some other vermin?
re: #69 galloping granny
red lily beetles. Nasty, disgusting things! Though that applies to other vermin too.
Aren't all vermin nasty vile creatures?
/that's why they are called that. :)
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yesandno Wed, May 21, 2008 4:10:23am |
Obama mailed in his victory speech from Iowa much like the voters in Oregon mailed in their votes from the loony bin of leftist politics.
The national trend never had a time to develop because the early primaries and the media drum banging put both Obama and McCain in the driver's seat. This is an election the media wanted because if its overwhelming symbolism. Young vs old, the warrior vs the humanitarian, black vs white, progressive democrat vs progressive Republican, global activist vs America first. It has all the drama of a bad "B" movie because our hero on the left has no substance and the substance on the right has no hero.
Never have like Hillary, would never vote for her for President. But she seems to be the best candidate right now for the Dems...but since they never admit mistakes, they will just ignore her.
Wonder what life would be like in America if we had a majority of grown-ups actually voting?
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hhc 2-2 scr Wed, May 21, 2008 4:12:04am |
re: #57 galloping granny
So it sounds like hand picking them off is my best option. Can't cut them down, we only stay in one place for so long so every year counts, going to have to dig them up this fall to try to get them back to the states.
Well at least squishing them into the patio gives me some type of satisfaction.
Thank you and happy gardening to you!
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 4:15:12am |
re: #72 hhc 2-2 scr
So it sounds like hand picking them off is my best option. Can't cut them down, we only stay in one place for so long so every year counts, going to have to dig them up this fall to try to get them back to the states.
Well at least squishing them into the patio gives me some type of satisfaction.
Thank you and happy gardening to you!
Two things - just hand picking will not get rid of them. And in order to bring live plant material back to the states you need a certificate of inspection. You will not get one for those lilies if you have red lily bugs. And you shouldn't get one for them. This is a tremendously damaging and invasive species. PLEASE don't bring it home!
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Jim in Virginia Wed, May 21, 2008 4:15:43am |
re: #71 yesandno
Wonder what life would be like in America if we had a majority of grown-ups actually voting?
Joe Lieberman would be President.
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 4:16:18am |
re: #71 yesandno
Bill Kristol just said that this isn't an election, it's a survey. Lots of truth there.
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Jim in Virginia Wed, May 21, 2008 4:17:30am |
re: #73 galloping granny
This is a tremendously damaging and invasive species. PLEASE don't bring it home!
I'm sending you some kudzu cuttings. Enjoy!
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hhc 2-2 scr Wed, May 21, 2008 4:17:48am |
I have no problem killing them, do it on a daily basis and my 5 year old helps me, thats how we found out they kinda sing. Creeped me out big time! I was just hoping that there was an easier way of doing so.
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 4:18:40am |
re: #76 Jim in Virginia
I'm sending you some kudzu cuttings. Enjoy!
Oh no you don't! I was flabbergasted the last time I was in North Carolina to see hundreds of acres just buried. Whole forests, huge fields, even buildings.
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 4:19:44am |
re: #77 hhc 2-2 scr
I have no problem killing them, do it on a daily basis and my 5 year old helps me, thats how we found out they kinda sing. Creeped me out big time! I was just hoping that there was an easier way of doing so.
The problem isn't the adults you see and kill - it is the eggs you cannot see and the mid-stage that looks like a lump of dirt, though it is actually bug shit (use gloves.)
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yesandno Wed, May 21, 2008 4:19:45am |
re: #75 galloping granny
Bill Kristol just said that this isn't an election, it's a survey. Lots of truth there.
And Mark Steyn mentioned a while back that Democrats have attitudes not policies. This is truly one for the books. This is the win of celebrity over substance.
God help us all.
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 4:20:54am |
re: #80 yesandno
And Mark Steyn mentioned a while back that Democrats have attitudes not policies. This is truly one for the books. This is the win of celebrity over substance.
God help us all.
From your lips to his ears . . .
otherwise I am afraid that we are in for "change" alright. And it won't be pretty.
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yesandno Wed, May 21, 2008 4:21:31am |
re: #78 galloping granny
Oh no you don't! I was flabbergasted the last time I was in North Carolina to see hundreds of acres just buried. Whole forests, huge fields, even buildings.
Think South Carolina is worse. Wouldn't if be great if it could be used to make ethanol so the rest of the world could eat!
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yesandno Wed, May 21, 2008 4:23:11am |
re: #79 galloping granny
The problem isn't the adults you see and kill - it is the eggs you cannot see and the mid-stage that looks like a lump of dirt, though it is actually bug shit (use gloves.)
And why does this remind me of the Democrat Party?
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 4:23:18am |
re: #82 yesandno
Think South Carolina is worse. Wouldn't if be great if it could be used to make ethanol so the rest of the world could eat!
That it would. As far as I am concerned, using vital food resources to produce ethanol to burn as fuel is a sin against G_d and a crime against humanity.
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hhc 2-2 scr Wed, May 21, 2008 4:23:28am |
re: #73 galloping granny
I was just bringing the bulb back, not the whole plant. Army won't pack up plants. Was also going to freeze the bulb so they could survive the 2 month voyage back.
No soil, no plant just the bulb.
But if they live within the bulb theres no way I'm bringing that back with me. They can stay here and I'll start over again.
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ciaospirit Wed, May 21, 2008 4:24:11am |
re: #71 yesandno
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but since they never admit mistakes, they will just ignore her.
They sure are ignoring her. The Yahoo news front page this morning only shows a smiling Hussein Obama with a glowing headline. Not a word about Hillery or her huge victory in Kentucky. Much as I dislike her, she really has been up against it and I give her credit for not folding.
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 4:26:26am |
re: #85 hhc 2-2 scr
I was just bringing the bulb back, not the whole plant. Army won't pack up plants. Was also going to freeze the bulb so they could survive the 2 month voyage back.
No soil, no plant just the bulb.
But if they live within the bulb theres no way I'm bringing that back with me. They can stay here and I'll start over again.
The bulbs are considered live plant materials. Army probably intends those too when it says "no plants." Surely the Department of Agriculture and Customs do.
One of my daughters just came back from a trip to EU, spent some time in Amsterdam and grabbed a bunch of bulbs while she was there. Every package though has to have a certificate of inspection on it or they will confiscate it at the gate.
Bringing animal or plant materials into the US without the right certificates, etc., carries HUGE fines.
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 4:27:55am |
re: #86 ciaospirit
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They sure are ignoring her. The Yahoo news front page this morning only shows a smiling Hussein Obama with a glowing headline. Not a word about Hillery or her huge victory in Kentucky. Much as I dislike her, she really has been up against it and I give her credit for not folding.
Agreed. And I have to tell you, I think her female supporters who are complaining about disparate treatment and gender discrimination by the media are dead on. Yahoo's front page is a perfect example.
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opnion Wed, May 21, 2008 4:30:55am |
Bill Richardson was just on FNC. The spin is that Barry did not mean talks with Amendinijad. It was kind of like "Sill is that what you thought?"
He went on to say & you can't make it up, "He meant moderate clerics." Yeah, thats the ticket!
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 4:32:00am |
re: #89 opnion
Bill Richardson was just on FNC. The spin is that Barry did not mean talks with Amendinijad. It was kind of like "Sill is that what you thought?"
He went on to say & you can't make it up, "He meant moderate clerics." Yeah, thats the ticket!
That isn't what Obama said. What he meant doesn't count. And there are NO moderate clerics in Iran. The moderate clerics that once lived there left more than 30 years ago. Or were killed.
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Roentgen Wed, May 21, 2008 4:33:02am |
re: #87 galloping granny
The bulbs are considered live plant materials. Army probably intends those too when it says "no plants." Surely the Department of Agriculture and Customs do.
One of my daughters just came back from a trip to EU, spent some time in Amsterdam and grabbed a bunch of bulbs while she was there. Every package though has to have a certificate of inspection on it or they will confiscate it at the gate.
Bringing animal or plant materials into the US without the right certificates, etc., carries HUGE fines.
Yes, vendors there will sell you stuff that looks like it's packaged ready to take home with you on your flight, but may in fact fail inspection upon return to the U.S., and be a pain in the ass.
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madisonsfriend Wed, May 21, 2008 4:34:24am |
re: #89 opnion
Bill Richardson was just on FNC. The spin is that Barry did not mean talks with Amendinijad. It was kind of like "Sill is that what you thought?"
I wanted direct talks with Imanutjob when he was in NYC- I was going to tell him to F-k off.
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Jim in Virginia Wed, May 21, 2008 4:34:42am |
A personal note. I'm bummed. My two seventh grade daughters head off today on the annual school camping trip to West Virginia. Normally I'd go- it's a great trip. Instead I am heading to Nebraska for a funeral. My mom's last surviving sibling died at 92. Mom is 85, (she is in amazingly good health, just got a new cornea.) She will be there along with a dozen cousins, so she will have lots of moral support.I And it will be great for the extended family to get together. There is a lot to be thankful for. My uncle had dementia but was otherwise very content and in good health until a couple week sbefore he died. He had been in a nursing home the last two years. We will probably sell the farm now (he was the last one living there). It has been in the family for over a century. For me, it's grandma's house. It's the house my mom grew up in. Lots of good memories (we've forgotten the bad ones), but as much as we will miss the place, no one wants to live there. What we miss is all the people who used to fill the house.
It will be a bittersweet trip.
I missed my daughters' school trip last year for another out of town funeral. Being a grown up sucks some times.
OK, I'll stop whining. Thanks.
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opnion Wed, May 21, 2008 4:35:01am |
re: #90 galloping granny
That isn't what Obama said. What he meant doesn't count. And there are NO moderate clerics in Iran. The moderate clerics that once lived there left more than 30 years ago. Or were killed.
You are right on. Barry said nothing about talking to clerics.
If there is a moderate cleric in Iran, the guy is awful quiet.
There is such a disturbing trend, 'Barry did not really say what you heard him say."
You know what is coming? "If you heard what you heard, then you are a racist."
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madisonsfriend Wed, May 21, 2008 4:36:04am |
re: #82 yesandno
Think South Carolina is worse. Wouldn't if be great if it could be used to make ethanol so the rest of the world could eat!
Can't you make something useful from Kudzu? Wait, I see a future business for me- as soon as I figure it out.
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Jim in Virginia Wed, May 21, 2008 4:37:16am |
re: #78 galloping granny
Oh no you don't! I was flabbergasted the last time I was in North Carolina to see hundreds of acres just buried. Whole forests, huge fields, even buildings.
If there were a cost effective way to make biofuel from kudzu, we could tell OPEC to kiss our grits.
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madisonsfriend Wed, May 21, 2008 4:37:43am |
re: #93 Jim in Virginia
I'm sorry for your loss. My mom is the last of a large family-sadly, she is not doing well and is only anxious for "it" to all be over.
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Widow'smight Wed, May 21, 2008 4:37:51am |
re: #90 galloping granny
By not allowing production/extraction of our own oil, the Dumbocrats/Rinos have give Ach---Terd exactly what he wants, higher oil prices, more revenue for him. What will Berry give them next, the missiles to put the Nukes in?
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 4:39:16am |
re: #93 Jim in Virginia
A personal note. I'm bummed. My two seventh grade daughters head off today on the annual school camping trip to West Virginia. Normally I'd go- it's a great trip. Instead I am heading to Nebraska for a funeral. My mom's last surviving sibling died at 92. Mom is 85, (she is in amazingly good health, just got a new cornea.) She will be there along with a dozen cousins, so she will have lots of moral support.I And it will be great for the extended family to get together. There is a lot to be thankful for. My uncle had dementia but was otherwise very content and in good health until a couple week sbefore he died. He had been in a nursing home the last two years. We will probably sell the farm now (he was the last one living there). It has been in the family for over a century. For me, it's grandma's house. It's the house my mom grew up in. Lots of good memories (we've forgotten the bad ones), but as much as we will miss the place, no one wants to live there. What we miss is all the people who used to fill the house.
It will be a bittersweet trip.
I missed my daughters' school trip last year for another out of town funeral. Being a grown up sucks some times.
OK, I'll stop whining. Thanks.
You're not whining. It is sad. My Dad's (dad is 87, cousin was in his 90's) cousin & his wife passed a few months back. They had lived on the family farm for close to a hundred years, one of the last old time farms in Massachusetts. Still heated with wood, still had a wood cookstove in the kitchen. As long as I can remember we've been going up to the farm. And now the farm is gone. It did go to a landtrust, but still . . .
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vagabond trader Wed, May 21, 2008 4:40:15am |
re: #79 galloping granny
My lily's have been attacked for the last 2 or 3 seasons.The first year I squished those filthy things big time and it seems to have diminished their numbers.Wondering if there is any other way to get rid of the remainder when they show up this year.
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 4:40:15am |
re: #98 Widow'smight
By not allowing production/extraction of our own oil, the Dumbocrats/Rinos have give Ach---Terd exactly what he wants, higher oil prices, more revenue for him. What will Berry give them next, the missiles to put the Nukes in?
I think the Norks have already given them those. And if they haven't the Russians will. The Cold War is back in spades.
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pingjockey Wed, May 21, 2008 4:41:45am |
Mornin' all. The beast and obamarama have gone to florida to campaign! Didn't Florida already vote? Oh yeah, they did and the donks said hey you jumped the gun, it doesn't count. Bwahaha!
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 4:41:46am |
re: #100 vagabond trader
My lily's have been attacked for the last 2 or 3 seasons.The first year I squished those filthy things big time and it seems to have diminished their numbers.Wondering if there is any other way to get rid of the remainder when they show up this year.
Here is a page at gardenweb about getting rid of them'
[Link: faq.gardenweb.com...]
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hhc 2-2 scr Wed, May 21, 2008 4:42:24am |
re: #87 galloping granny
Exactly. I don't want to go through all the hassle of getting my bulbs back to the states if the creature is able to survive without the leaves of the plant.
You had said that you had to cut all yours back to get rid of them and didn't have a problem the next year.
I so don't want to bring these nasty things back with me to feast on a new garden. Lilies aren't cheap and I have a limited time in which they can spread to form their beautiful display.
Heck with it. I think I'll just start saving for my new lilies now and leave these behind.
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Roentgen Wed, May 21, 2008 4:43:39am |
re: #93 Jim in Virginia
I hope things work out as best they can.
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 4:44:24am |
re: #94 opnion
You are right on. Barry said nothing about talking to clerics.
If there is a moderate cleric in Iran, the guy is awful quiet.
There is such a disturbing trend, 'Barry did not really say what you heard him say."
You know what is coming? "If you heard what you heard, then you are a racist."
There has been a lot of that going on already. Follow the Messiah - except he is the AntiChrist and you are dancing your way to destruction.
Sorry. Not buying. If they want to call me a racist so be it.
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Dar ul Harbarian Wed, May 21, 2008 4:45:52am |
Found this quote in today's WSJ
"no people in history have ever survived, who thought they could protect their freedom by making themselves inoffensive to their enemies."
- Dean Acheson
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 4:46:06am |
re: #104 hhc 2-2 scr
Exactly. I don't want to go through all the hassle of getting my bulbs back to the states if the creature is able to survive without the leaves of the plant.
You had said that you had to cut all yours back to get rid of them and didn't have a problem the next year.
I so don't want to bring these nasty things back with me to feast on a new garden. Lilies aren't cheap and I have a limited time in which they can spread to form their beautiful display.
Heck with it. I think I'll just start saving for my new lilies now and leave these behind.
Oh no, I didn't say I haven't had a problem this year. I cut the leaves and stems down to the ground last year before the bulbs bloomed to get rid of the bugs. The bulbs have shot up new leaves/stems this year, but they are new and most bugs are just starting to arrive here in Vermont. I won't know for another few weeks if I managed to rid my plants of them.
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Widow'smight Wed, May 21, 2008 4:46:38am |
re: #101 galloping granny
Difference is we only had one non-suicidal enemy to deal with. Now we have many, and our politicians are destroying our leverage by not allowing us to Drill.
John McCain is one of those.
We have enough oil in this country to produce all our own. When we don't need their oil, the equations will change.
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Jim in Virginia Wed, May 21, 2008 4:51:24am |
Thanks for the kind thoughts. I really have very little to complain about, lots and lots of blessings.
Have a wonderful day, all.
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godfrey Wed, May 21, 2008 4:51:39am |
re: #93 Jim in Virginia
You have my sympathy, and I'm sure of many others.
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pingjockey Wed, May 21, 2008 4:52:59am |
re: #111 Widow'smight
Except the moonbats won't let us drill! That is the whole reason for getting polar bears listed as a threatened species. It will stop all drilling, even exploratory wells. Can't drill off of Fla. But Castro is or was going to let the Chicoms drill 90 miles from the coast. We can't drill but the commies can. Madness.
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madisonsfriend Wed, May 21, 2008 4:55:01am |
re: #114 pingjockey
Except the moonbats won't let us drill! That is the whole reason for getting polar bears listed as a threatened species. It will stop all drilling, even exploratory wells. Can't drill off of Fla. But Castro is or was going to let the Chicoms drill 90 miles from the coast. We can't drill but the commies can. Madness.
Wait, are the polar bears in Florida now? Or is that just the older ones escaping wnter?
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pingjockey Wed, May 21, 2008 4:55:12am |
Fox is slamming the msm. Apparently things in Irak are going better than they let on! Who'd a thunk it?
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Widow'smight Wed, May 21, 2008 4:56:34am |
re: #114 pingjockey
President Bush tried to get ANWR and the Gulf opened up 6 years ago when he had a Republican Majority in both houses. The Rinos stopped it in committee.
John McCain was part of that, and with this "Green" crap, he has enough Moonbat in him it seems.
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pingjockey Wed, May 21, 2008 4:58:48am |
re: #118 Widow'smight
That little speech he made in Oregon did not go over well with me. Gorebull warming is not our no. 1 problem. Crazed jihadi zealots are.
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rightside Wed, May 21, 2008 4:59:38am |
Anyway you look at it, we're screwed this November!
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 5:00:15am |
re: #119 pingjockey
That little speech he made in Oregon did not go over well with me. Gorebull warming is not our no. 1 problem. Crazed jihadi zealots are.
Gorebull warming is so much bull crap. Had I known about the danged petition, it would have had 31,001 signatures instead of 31,000.
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pingjockey Wed, May 21, 2008 5:00:44am |
re: #120 rightside
This whole having to choose the lesser of evils for elected office is getting very old.
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 5:00:55am |
re: #120 rightside
Anyway you look at it, we're screwed this November!
Pretty much - the only question being how screwed we are.
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Widow'smight Wed, May 21, 2008 5:01:54am |
re: #119 pingjockey
It's May 21st, and it hasn't been over 80 yet here, infact it's been in the 60's most of may.
I need Global warming to get my Tomatoes and Pepper plants going!
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pingjockey Wed, May 21, 2008 5:01:55am |
re: #121 galloping granny
Well this is the first I heard about a petition. So it would've had mine signature on it too.
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pingjockey Wed, May 21, 2008 5:03:16am |
re: #124 Widow'smight
Hahaha! Yep. We'v had 2 really hot days, then back down to below average temps here in North Central Wash. State.
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 5:03:27am |
re: #124 Widow'smight
It's May 21st, and it hasn't been over 80 yet here, infact it's been in the 60's most of may.
I need Global warming to get my Tomatoes and Pepper plants going!
We haven't made it to 80 yet! My tomatoes and peppers all have really nice root development, but I am starting to worry that they are only going to be 2 or 3 inches tall come Memorial Day.
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 5:04:35am |
re: #125 pingjockey
Well this is the first I heard about a petition. So it would've had mine signature on it too.
31,000 card carrying scientists signed a statement saying there was no evidence of global warming, etc. and so forth. Like I said, had I known. .
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LeonidasOfSparta Wed, May 21, 2008 5:05:10am |
re: #42 stuiec
I don't think I have ever seen everything wrapped so perfectly into one nutshell before-- you're absolutely right. The lens of their thoughtglass is so skewed, not unlike trying to see distance using a magnifying glass, that to them the world is upside down and consequently they create elaborate systems to turn everything right side up (when in fact if they would correct their lens to the proper focal distance they would see it was always right side up.)
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pingjockey Wed, May 21, 2008 5:05:29am |
re: #128 galloping granny
Well I'm not a card carrying scientist, but I play one at home!
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rightside Wed, May 21, 2008 5:05:54am |
I just found out that there was a free concert right after obamessiah spoke in Oregon. No wonder there were so may yutes there. Ain't it funny, how the drive-by's neglected to report that?
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yesandno Wed, May 21, 2008 5:07:56am |
If they DO find a moderate cleric in Iran...HE WILL HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO POWER...like talking to the wall.
The stupidity of these people knows no bounds. You cannot spin your foot out of your mouth, particularly when you constantly re-stated what you said to begin with.
We are condemned to stupidity!
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pingjockey Wed, May 21, 2008 5:07:59am |
re: #131 rightside
We knew that here, but you are right the msm failed to include that little item. It was 80+ in Portland, which is a heatwave so all the kids were out for the concert. No concert, no huge crowd.
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 5:08:08am |
re: #130 pingjockey
Well I'm not a card carrying scientist, but I play one at home!
I am. Semi-retired but I still have the card somewhere :)
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pingjockey Wed, May 21, 2008 5:09:33am |
re: #132 yesandno
No, we are condemed to putting up with stupidity. Our national parties seemed to be determined to apply the Peter principle to its fullest extent.
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 5:10:04am |
re: #131 rightside
I just found out that there was a free concert right after obamessiah spoke in Oregon. No wonder there were so may yutes there. Ain't it funny, how the drive-by's neglected to report that?
There was something else funny about that concert. . . . the band, don't remember there name right this minute but apparent they are very Marxist . . .
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Widow'smight Wed, May 21, 2008 5:10:19am |
re: #120 rightside
The Democrats rely on these high gas prices, the Msm and control of the educational systems to spread their class warfare and misery.
The more you know, the less likely you'll be a democrat. Course, being a Republican ain't what it used to be either.
Most things in life are pretty simple, Many scripture references about debts and debtors. Time to change the equation.
I feel sorry for those who have a big chunk of their income going to food and fuel, but our politicians don't care about them, they are immune to their suffering, but want their votes.
Time to get Mini-mom on the bus.
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pingjockey Wed, May 21, 2008 5:10:37am |
re: #134 galloping granny
Cool. Was answereing biology questions the other day, and table of the elements stuff.
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 5:11:55am |
re: #136 galloping granny
There was something else funny about that concert. . . . the band, don't remember there name right this minute but apparent they are very Marxist . . .
From what I remember from last night, the band plays the Soviet National Anthem.
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rightside Wed, May 21, 2008 5:12:07am |
re: #136 galloping granny
The Decemberists. Never heard of them myself. I have BabbaZee taste in music.
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pingjockey Wed, May 21, 2008 5:12:25am |
Rudy just slammed obamaramas lack of experience!
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 5:13:29am |
re: #138 pingjockey
Cool. Was answereing biology questions the other day, and table of the elements stuff.
That is always fun. I love teaching chemistry in particular - especially to women who think that they could not possibly learn the stuff.
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pingjockey Wed, May 21, 2008 5:13:47am |
re: #140 rightside
Me neither, but I'm not 19, in college, and have succesful parents who are guilty about being succesful feeding me marxist/leftist pap.
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 5:13:59am |
re: #140 rightside
The Decemberists. Never heard of them myself. I have BabbaZee taste in music.
I never heard of them either. Might go look them up.
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doriangrey Wed, May 21, 2008 5:14:34am |
re: #145 rightside
Morning dorian
Morning rightside...
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WayDownSouthInBama Wed, May 21, 2008 5:14:43am |
Work withouthopeCHANGE draws nectar in a sieve,
AndhopeCHANGE without an object cannot live.
Some guy named Barry
The political campaign theme of change doesn't change the one thing that needs to be changed...our choices for president.
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pingjockey Wed, May 21, 2008 5:14:57am |
re: #143 galloping granny
Why don't they think they can learn that? I've never understood some girls mindsets about the "hard" sciences.
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 5:15:56am |
re: #146 galloping granny
I never heard of them either. Might go look them up.
Daughter says she is not incredibly fond of their music, that it "isn't particularly - well, musical."
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pingjockey Wed, May 21, 2008 5:16:29am |
Mornin' DG. WTF is going on down is SD? Bombs in the courthouse, gas explosions, power going off at Lindberg Field? Are there gremlins loose?
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rightside Wed, May 21, 2008 5:16:44am |
re: #144 pingjockey
I agree. I think after years of the drive-by's doing nothing but hammering that republican=bad, democrat=all that is good and right in the universe, it slowly has become the mindset. Repeat a lie often enough, and...
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Lucius Septimius Wed, May 21, 2008 5:18:27am |
Morning all -- 58 degrees and the dryer is broke and two loads of wet clothes and about three more loads that need to be done. If there are appropriate intercessory prayers for appliances, I'd appreciate them.
On the other hand, finally got around to watching "Ratatouille" last night. Cute movie, though there was this constant tension between becoming really hungry looking at the food and really nauseous looking at the rats.
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 5:19:18am |
re: #149 pingjockey
Why don't they think they can learn that? I've never understood some girls mindsets about the "hard" sciences.
Its a societal thing. Even my mother, who was a brilliant woman and probably the single most powerful non-elected woman in the US government post WWII, often told me not to let people know how smart I was, that boys don't like girls who are smarter than they are and so on. Even today a tremendous amount of that attitude remains, changed now to something that says that girls/women need to learn math and science "differently" - like we are not capable of understanding things in the same way as a man is. All of which is crap.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, May 21, 2008 5:19:23am |
Just got here; everybody being nice to Kennedy?
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 5:19:52am |
re: #151 pingjockey
Mornin' DG. WTF is going on down is SD? Bombs in the courthouse, gas explosions, power going off at Lindberg Field? Are there gremlins loose?
SD - South Dakota or San Diego?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, May 21, 2008 5:20:31am |
re: #157 galloping granny
Yesterday Savage was in South Dakota. Should be safe there.
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opnion Wed, May 21, 2008 5:20:55am |
re: #120 rightside
Anyway you look at it, we're screwed this November!
That is the sad truth. We are so screwed, but I will take my chances with McCain. No other option really.
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 5:20:55am |
re: #153 Lucius Septimius
Morning all -- 58 degrees and the dryer is broke and two loads of wet clothes and about three more loads that need to be done. If there are appropriate intercessory prayers for appliances, I'd appreciate them.
On the other hand, finally got around to watching "Ratatouille" last night. Cute movie, though there was this constant tension between becoming really hungry looking at the food and really nauseous looking at the rats.
Did you check the breaker box for a tripped breaker? And kick the miserable thing?
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rightside Wed, May 21, 2008 5:20:57am |
re: #155 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
lol, I don't think he has been mentioned until you did. Some gardening tips, and the obamessiah concert in Orgeon the other day are the hot topics.
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Dr. Shalit Wed, May 21, 2008 5:21:06am |
re: #16 stuiec
Sorry to mention He-Who-Should-Not-Be-Named, but...
... the result in Oregon wasn't even close.
I wish it had been, or even that she'd managed a win there, because that would have caused a sea-change in the campaign and forced Vobamamort to tack over to bring all his guns to bear on the She-Beast. (I know, I know, mixing Harry Potter and nautical metaphors. It's early, don't yell at me.)
"stuie" -
Better than that - Sen. Obama was the "attraction" following a FREE Concert by a band called the "Decembrists." Free concert, a great way to
gin up a crowd of 75,000. My hat is off, on a professional basis, to whoever figured that one out. A Bronx Cheer to the MSM for not mentioning it.
-S-
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pingjockey Wed, May 21, 2008 5:21:20am |
re: #154 galloping granny
That is correct. Look how many girls are valedictorians. Bet it is over 60% nation wide.
Everbody has been very polite about the swimmers affliction.
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opnion Wed, May 21, 2008 5:22:23am |
re: #136 galloping granny
There was something else funny about that concert. . . . the band, don't remember there name right this minute but apparent they are very Marxist . . .
Decemberists
, the Bolshevek Revolution.
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Lucius Septimius Wed, May 21, 2008 5:22:42am |
re: #160 galloping granny
Heating element went during a humongous thunderstorm last night. It was pretty scary -- at least three tornadoes in the area around us.
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doriangrey Wed, May 21, 2008 5:22:54am |
re: #151 pingjockey
Mornin' DG. WTF is going on down is SD? Bombs in the courthouse, gas explosions, power going off at Lindberg Field? Are there gremlins loose?
Nothing to see here, move along... All just a confluence of accidents, nothing to worry about, or so our glorious leaders tell us... Secure the borders so terrorists dont sneak in? Dont be absurd, we dont need no stinking secure borders, we just need the sheeple to keep handing their money over and continue being sheeple...
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rightside Wed, May 21, 2008 5:23:02am |
re: #156 pingjockey
If you won't vote for shrillary/obamessiah, you are obviously a sexist/racist, clinging bitterly to your guns and religion.
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yesandno Wed, May 21, 2008 5:23:03am |
OT
Obesity contributes to global warming!
[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]
At least now the whole corn to ethanol thingy makes sense...you have to starve to be globally reponsible.
Paging Al Gore, Paging Al Gore...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, May 21, 2008 5:23:11am |
re: #161 rightside
Well, agree or disagree with him; my wife works in Radiation Oncology and what he has is awful. A horrible way to die, if it is as bad as they are saying.
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 5:23:25am |
Here is the Decembrists them song -
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
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opnion Wed, May 21, 2008 5:24:56am |
re: #168 rightside
If you won't vote for shrillary/obamessiah, you are obviously a sexist/racist, clinging bitterly to your guns and religion.
So, what to do? You only get one vote unless you live in Chicago.
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doriangrey Wed, May 21, 2008 5:25:00am |
re: #166 Lucius Septimius
Heating element went during a humongous thunderstorm last night. It was pretty scary -- at least three tornadoes in the area around us.
Its Gorebull warming I tell you, we're all doomed... Doomed I say...
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 5:27:21am |
re: #171 galloping granny
Here is the Decembrists them song -
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
According to Wiki, they're named after ther December, 1825 revolt against the czar.
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doriangrey Wed, May 21, 2008 5:28:39am |
re: #170 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Well, agree or disagree with him; my wife works in Radiation Oncology and what he has is awful. A horrible way to die, if it is as bad as they are saying.
My brother died of it in Oct of 06, you are right it is awful. I personally dislike his politics, but would never have wished this on him. I am convinced that despite the misguided nature of his politics Ted is a genuine patriot. He will be in my prayers.
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 5:28:42am |
Interesting that BHO would appear at their concert.
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pingjockey Wed, May 21, 2008 5:28:44am |
re: #177 MandyManners
That would make more sense. Wasn't the Bolshevik revolution in October?
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doriangrey Wed, May 21, 2008 5:29:53am |
re: #180 MandyManners
Interesting that BHO would appear at their concert.
Why, the Obamanation is obviously a Marxist through and through..
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pingjockey Wed, May 21, 2008 5:30:28am |
re: #179 doriangrey
Yep. Don't like Teddy at all but wouldn't wish this on him. There are a few other people I'd wish plagues on, but they are across the pond.
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 5:30:42am |
re: #162 Dr. Shalit
"stuie" -
Better than that - Sen. Obama was the "attraction" following a FREE Concert by a band called the "Decembrists." Free concert, a great way to
gin up a crowd of 75,000. My hat is off, on a professional basis, to whoever figured that one out. A Bronx Cheer to the MSM for not mentioning it.-S-
I just hunted up the band on Youtube. They are named after the Decemberist Revolt in 1825 in Russia. What I've listened to is hardly unique music - fairly standard Russian stuff from decades past.
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doriangrey Wed, May 21, 2008 5:31:06am |
re: #182 rightside
I lived in SD til '04!
Aw yes, the good old US Navy... Join the Navy, get trapped in San Diego California... lol...lol...lol...
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opnion Wed, May 21, 2008 5:31:31am |
re: #178 rightside
Write in candidate.
Rightside, I sense that we share the same opnion of John McCain.
I was hoping for a more Republican , Republican.
But the thought of Barack Hussein in the White House with his "associates" in & out is too heinous.
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 5:31:46am |
re: #185 galloping granny
I just hunted up the band on Youtube. They are named after the Decemberist Revolt in 1825 in Russia. What I've listened to is hardly unique music - fairly standard Russian stuff from decades past.
Soviet National Anthem
1.
Unbreakable union of free republics,
Great Russia has joined forever!
Long live the created by the will of peoples
United and mighty Soviet Union
CHORUS:
To Glory, our free Fatherland
The stronghold of the friendship of peoples
Party of Lenin is the power of the people
It leads us to the triumph of Communism
2.
Through storms the sun of freedom shone to us
And the great Lenin lighted us the way
He raised peoples to the right cause
He inspired us for labour and for acts of heroism
CHORUS
3.
In the victory of the immortal ideas of Communism
We see the future of our country,
And to the Red banner of our glorious Fatherland
We shall always be selflessly loyal
CHORUS
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opnion Wed, May 21, 2008 5:32:16am |
re: #181 pingjockey
That would make more sense. Wasn't the Bolshevik revolution in October?
Yup, I had that wrong.
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 5:32:23am |
re: #170 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Well, agree or disagree with him; my wife works in Radiation Oncology and what he has is awful. A horrible way to die, if it is as bad as they are saying.
Yup. Probably the single most horrible cancer you can have.
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pingjockey Wed, May 21, 2008 5:32:36am |
re: #186 doriangrey
Well I'd rather get trapped in San Diego than Norfolk, Va. Or Bremerton, Wa.
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 5:33:32am |
re: #188 MandyManners
Soviet National Anthem
There are others too - all very USSR-ish.
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pingjockey Wed, May 21, 2008 5:34:26am |
Ha, how are the shysters gonna spin this? Some Gitmo detainess can't go home cause their countries don't want them back!
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rightside Wed, May 21, 2008 5:34:37am |
re: #186 doriangrey
Actually, I chose there. Spent my entire career on the east coast, and wanted my final tour to be on the west coast. So many had told me, "you have to go out for a tour on the west coast, so laid back, etc.,"
Little did I know it turned out to be the worst tour of my 20 years. I spent the final 11 months on deployment.
The only thing I miss there is the weather, and Fry's!
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 5:35:17am |
re: #192 galloping granny
There are others too - all very USSR-ish.
It really is kind of mind-boggling to hear young people gaga over music that every single one of us recognizes as communist revolutionary music - and the kiddies do not have the first half of a clue.
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yesandno Wed, May 21, 2008 5:35:28am |
re: #193 pingjockey
Ha, how are the shysters gonna spin this? Some Gitmo detainess can't go home cause their countries don't want them back!
Same way as usual...it's BUSH's fault!
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pingjockey Wed, May 21, 2008 5:36:02am |
re: #192 galloping granny
Somebody ought to tell those kids the USSR is dead. Pooty Poot is trying to resurrect the Russian Empire, not the USSR. I think he wants to be Czar Pooty Poot the first.
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rightside Wed, May 21, 2008 5:36:34am |
re: #187 opnion
I am worried about potential supreme court nominees from any of the three. The only solace, is that those who would retire are leftists, IMO. So, no net loss. How wonderful it would be to have one or two more conservatives on the bench.
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 5:36:47am |
re: #195 galloping granny
It really is kind of mind-boggling to hear young people gaga over music that every single one of us recognizes as communist revolutionary music - and the kiddies do not have the first half of a clue.
Makes me wonder what they've learned in history classes.
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 5:37:10am |
re: #198 pingjockey
Somebody ought to tell those kids the USSR is dead. Pooty Poot is trying to resurrect the Russian Empire, not the USSR. I think he wants to be Czar Pooty Poot the first.
LOL!
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opnion Wed, May 21, 2008 5:37:52am |
re: #199 rightside
I am worried about potential supreme court nominees from any of the three. The only solace, is that those who would retire are leftists, IMO. So, no net loss. How wonderful it would be to have one or two more conservatives on the bench.
McCain is a mixed bag re the Court. He supported Roberts, but not Allito.
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 5:38:05am |
re: #200 MandyManners
Makes me wonder what they've learned in history classes.
Not history for sure.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, May 21, 2008 5:39:02am |
I sure am busy in the awful economy. Who'da thunk it?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Wed, May 21, 2008 5:41:02am |
re: #204 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Couple of weeks ago, my pastor said (in a sermond) "it is our duty...etc". Walked up to him after and whispered, "Heh, you said doodie." and kept walking.
The next old lady to shake his hand got a face full of laughter spittle.
My work there was finished.
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laZardo Wed, May 21, 2008 5:42:03am |
Work without hope draws nectar in a sieve,
And hope without an object cannot live.
...CHANGE!
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doriangrey Wed, May 21, 2008 5:42:33am |
re: #194 rightside
Actually, I chose there. Spent my entire career on the east coast, and wanted my final tour to be on the west coast. So many had told me, "you have to go out for a tour on the west coast, so laid back, etc.,"
Little did I know it turned out to be the worst tour of my 20 years. I spent the final 11 months on deployment.
The only thing I miss there is the weather, and Fry's!
ROTFLMAO...yes the weather and Fry's, two of the best things in Insain Diego...
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yesandno Wed, May 21, 2008 5:42:51am |
re: #202 opnion
McCain is a mixed bag re the Court. He supported Roberts, but not Allito.
More importantly, the Congress is going to be bad news so getting anyone past someone like smarmy Shumer et. al. isn't going to be easy at best. The most we can hope for is no one getting confirmed, because the only ones likely to get out of committee will not be conservative jurists..
And the list of "litmus" tests will be long indeed...
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doriangrey Wed, May 21, 2008 5:44:41am |
re: #206 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Couple of weeks ago, my pastor said (in a sermond) "it is our duty...etc". Walked up to him after and whispered, "Heh, you said doodie." and kept walking.
The next old lady to shake his hand got a face full of laughter spittle.
My work there was finished.
Hmmm, looks like you got a potty mind this morning... ;P
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Endangered in MASS Wed, May 21, 2008 5:45:07am |
re: #188 MandyManners
Nice people. Glorification of the Soviet Union in any any form repugnant.
They couldn't find a band in SS regalia to play Duetchland Uber Alles or Die Horst Wessell Lied ?
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littleO Wed, May 21, 2008 5:46:28am |
Yet, belief in spiritual guidance
though not respected, nor, reflected
can turn tides with a firm stance.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 21, 2008 5:47:59am |
This is on the front page of the NYT:
Operation in Sadr City Is an Iraqi Success, So Far
BAGHDAD — Iraqi forces rolled unopposed through the huge Shiite enclave of Sadr City on Tuesday, a dramatic turnaround from the bitter fighting that has plagued the Baghdad neighborhood for two months, and a qualified success for Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki.
Good news about Iraq on the front page of the NYT. Flying pig moment?
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doriangrey Wed, May 21, 2008 5:49:44am |
re: #211 Endangered in MASS
Nice people. Glorification of the Soviet Union in any any form repugnant.
They couldn't find a band in SS regalia to play Duetchland Uber Alles or Die Horst Wessell Lied ?
Probably just couldnt get the bands uniforms cleaned in time...I mean seriously its Oregon were talking about right? The only place in the country that is capable of making San Fransicko look, well conservative and sane...
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pingjockey Wed, May 21, 2008 5:50:18am |
Darth Rove on Fox now. Ha, called obamarama an 'elitist'.
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laZardo Wed, May 21, 2008 5:50:55am |
re: #213 NJDhockeyfan
Note the So Far in the title. Not holding my breath.
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doriangrey Wed, May 21, 2008 5:50:58am |
re: #214 pingjockey
A gliding pig. Not flying.
Hmmm sure you dont mean Gelded? As in a gelding horse... er pig?
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Endangered in MASS Wed, May 21, 2008 5:51:02am |
re: #214 pingjockey
I would not want to get underneath any airborne porcine object originating from the NYT.
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maddogg Wed, May 21, 2008 5:51:38am |
We have a couple of people down dinging this open thread, what the hell is that about?
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pingjockey Wed, May 21, 2008 5:52:19am |
re: #215 doriangrey
Ummm, no. They are just two halves of the same loony whole. I don't think anything could make SF look sane. Wait a minute, St. Pancakes alma mater, Evergreen State College. Somewhere over in the moonbat half of my state.
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doriangrey Wed, May 21, 2008 5:52:24am |
re: #219 Endangered in MASS
I would not want to get underneath any airborne porcine object originating from the NYT.
You are already under it, your only hope it to pray for strong winds and keep your head down...
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laZardo Wed, May 21, 2008 5:53:07am |
re: #211 Endangered in MASS
Did someone say Motherland?
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Endangered in MASS Wed, May 21, 2008 5:53:16am |
re: #215 doriangrey
Those douche bags need to spend some time with some folks that lived in DDR and USSR.
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pingjockey Wed, May 21, 2008 5:53:58am |
re: #218 doriangrey
I think the NY Slimes is gelded about the facts. That don't fit their template. Haven't figured out how this made the front page.
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doriangrey Wed, May 21, 2008 5:54:42am |
re: #220 maddogg
We have a couple of people down dinging this open thread, what the hell is that about?
I dont know and cant say I recognize either of them either. Trolls loose in Lizard land perhaps?
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maddogg Wed, May 21, 2008 5:55:46am |
re: #226 doriangrey
I dont know and cant say I recognize either of them either. Trolls loose in Lizard land perhaps?
Must be. Come on out and play, trolls. I be hongry!
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realwest Wed, May 21, 2008 5:55:56am |
Good morning y'all - from a warm (59 degrees, going up to 80 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?
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DistantThunder Wed, May 21, 2008 5:56:37am |
This is the point of the movie when Godzilla is wrestling with the T-Rex. Two Gargantuans in a life and death struggle - and only one can survive.
I hope Obama has a food taster by now.
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doriangrey Wed, May 21, 2008 5:57:23am |
re: #225 pingjockey
I think the NY Slimes is gelded about the facts. That don't fit their template. Haven't figured out how this made the front page.
Yup, the Slimes has definitely been intellectually gelded... Oh crap... sirians heading out of town and I need to leave for work, hope this doesnt complicate my commute.
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doriangrey Wed, May 21, 2008 5:59:14am |
re: #227 pingjockey
Where? Way back upthread?
Dinging the thread down, not posting...
re: #228 maddogg
Must be. Come on out and play, trolls. I be hongry!
Whats for breakfast... Why freshly BBQ's gamey troll buttocks of course... lol...lol...lol...
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Endangered in MASS Wed, May 21, 2008 5:59:27am |
re: #223 laZardo
The bad old days. I did two tours in Germany in the 80's ( 2nd AD and 1st AD) and replicated Russian tactics at the NTC at Ft Irwin as part of the 32nd Guards Motorized Rifle Regiment (OPFOR). I have been through Check Point Charlie and spent time East Berlin when it was the DDR.
I de- fucking - test commies.
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realwest Wed, May 21, 2008 6:00:29am |
re: #227 pingjockey
Good morning! No the two trolls who dinged down this entire thread - their names are "all else failed" and "xwarzone" - I frankly have never heard of either one of them myself.
Must be registered lizards who aren't really lizards, just idjits who managed to sneak in during registration so they could bop Charles (and us) when they thought it safe to do so.
YO! all else failed and xwarzone - come on out and play!
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Killian Bundy Wed, May 21, 2008 6:00:42am |
It's likely that the next president will face at least one Supreme Court vacancy. Obama should promise Hillary Clinton, now, that if he wins in November, the vacancy will be hers, making her first on a list of one.
Obama and Clinton have wound up agreeing on nearly every major issue during the campaign; at the end of the day, they share many orthodoxies. Unless the Supreme Court were to get mired in minuscule details of what constitutes universal health care, Obama could assume that he'd be pleased with most Clinton votes, certainly on major issues such as abortion.
/be afraid
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Widow'smight Wed, May 21, 2008 6:00:47am |
re: #221 pingjockey
Surprisingly for a Blue State, there are very few Moonbats here in PA. The part of Pittsburgh near Carnagie Mellon is one enclave. They might be angry cause they're surrounded by so many Rednecks.
I never get a chance to go to one of their parades, would like to carry Old Glory around during one of them.
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madisonsfriend Wed, May 21, 2008 6:01:51am |
re: #128 galloping granny
31,000 card carrying scientists signed a statement saying there was no evidence of global warming, etc. and so forth. Like I said, had I known. .
What kind of card do they carry?
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 6:02:16am |
re: #235 Endangered in MASS
The bad old days. I did two tours in Germany in the 80's ( 2nd AD and 1st AD) and replicated Russian tactics at the NTC at Ft Irwin as part of the 32nd Guards Motorized Rifle Regiment (OPFOR). I have been through Check Point Charlie and spent time East Berlin when it was the DDR.
I de- fucking - test commies.
I sat smack dab in the middle of the Fulda Gap in the 60's & 70's. I know exactly what you mean.
/never got close to Checkpoint Charlie. Forbidden to go to Berlin.
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LeonidasOfSparta Wed, May 21, 2008 6:02:58am |
Babba-- where are you these days? If you're out there reading-- Hi Babba!
{babba zee}
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 6:03:53am |
re: #237 Killian Bundy
/be afraid
I would find that pretty surprising. I think the MSM is offering up this idea and the VP slot trying to induce her to quit so Annointed One can proceed to his coronation unimpeded.
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realwest Wed, May 21, 2008 6:03:58am |
re: #231 pingjockey I'm doing ok, thanks - LOTS of chores to do today with Mom, but otherwise just fine.
Just listened to Karl Rove and Terry McCauliffe on Fox News talking about the primaries.
Did you know that Hillary after last nights' primaries, now leads Obama in popular votes by about 150,000?!
Wasn't it Obama - back when the superdelegates were in Hillary's back pocket - who was saying the "will of the people in terms of popular vote shouldn't be overturned by the party insiders"?!
HEY Obama - how do you feel about that now, hmmm?!
ROFL!
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realwest Wed, May 21, 2008 6:06:36am |
re: #241 LeonidasOfSparta Hey there, I think Babba's working on her blog today.
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laZardo Wed, May 21, 2008 6:07:36am |
re: #243 realwest
"There were many people out there who could not vote during these elections, and perhaps belatedly, I would like to call upon their duly and democratically elected representatives to help them express their support."
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madisonsfriend Wed, May 21, 2008 6:07:38am |
Popular Vote Total 16,649,545 49.0% 16,207,987 47.7% Obama +441,558 +1.3%
Estimate w/IA, NV, ME, WA* 16,983,629 49.1% 16,431,849 47.5% Obama +551,780 +1.6%
Popular Vote (w/FL) 17,225,759 48.2% 17,078,973 47.8% Obama +146,786 +0.4%
Estimate w/IA, NV, ME, WA* 17,559,843 48.3% 17,302,835 47.6% Obama +257,008 +0.7%
Popular Vote (w/FL & MI)** 17,225,759 47.5% 17,407,282 48.0% Clinton +181,523 +0.50%
Estimate w/IA, NV, ME, WA* 17,559,843 47.5% 17,631,144 47.7% Clinton +71,301 +0.20
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realwest Wed, May 21, 2008 6:08:47am |
re: #244 phil flavin I don't know but I don't think so, cause just before that Karl was talking about "seating" Florida and Michigan and how if the Dem's don't do that, they risk throwing Florida and Michigan to the Repub's in the general election.
But I'm not sure if that popular vote count includes Florida and/or Michigan.
Hey, what's your avatar?
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realwest Wed, May 21, 2008 6:10:45am |
re: #247 laZardo Heee.
Yeah, I'm just eating this Democrat disarray with a spoon!
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tfc3rid Wed, May 21, 2008 6:12:46am |
Good morning everyone... Hope everyone is doing well...
Beautiful morning here in the Big Apple...
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phil flavin Wed, May 21, 2008 6:13:15am |
re: #249 realwest
My beloved, and first place Columbus Crew!
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realwest Wed, May 21, 2008 6:13:36am |
re: #250 laZardo Well no one can replace BZ as the music of WLGF, but here's something that might tide you over:
[Link: www.imeem.com...]
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realwest Wed, May 21, 2008 6:14:56am |
re: #252 tfc3rid
Good morning my friend! Gosh I really LOVED NYC in the spring - actually loved it year round but spring especially!
How are you doing today?
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maddogg Wed, May 21, 2008 6:15:38am |
Well, guess what folks, we have at least 3 different trolls dinging down the other threads from yesterday. Such brave trolls!
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realwest Wed, May 21, 2008 6:15:54am |
re: #253 phil flavin
Well I know what crew is but where or what is Columbus?!
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sparrowlake Wed, May 21, 2008 6:17:41am |
It was just a goofy kid who shot a prayer book for crying out loud.
Maybe it has become politically correct in our society to pander to religious zealots - I guess we've all been conditioned to tolerate increasing degrees of deference over the last 20 years thanks to our very own home-grown bible-thumping preachers and politicians. None of that however prepared me for the most recent nauseating spectacle of U.S. military leaders literally kissing up to Iraqi religious zealots in a public display of dhimmitude.
If this represents the type of fawning, coddling, submissive relationship we are to have with our so-called Iraqi allies, then maybe we shouldn't worry too much about Obama - could his nose get much browner than what we just witnessed?
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Endangered in MASS Wed, May 21, 2008 6:17:53am |
re: #240 galloping granny
I went on a tour to West Berlin with a group of soldiers. While there we went on a tour of East Berlin in Class A uniform. As part of the SOFA ( status of forces agreement) French, British, US and Soviet had access to the other's zones in Berlin for recreational purposes.
As part of the tour we were left for two hours in East Berlin in the Alexandria Platz or as the commies so ingeniously redsignated it ,Karl Marx Platz. It was surreal.
Taking pictures of bridges,military installations etc was verbotten and result in immediate STASI or KGB interdiction.
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phil flavin Wed, May 21, 2008 6:17:54am |
re: #257 realwest
Well I know what crew is but where or what is Columbus?!
Columbus is a slightly less fashionable part of the midwest! (for the record the Crew is a MLS team.)
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tfc3rid Wed, May 21, 2008 6:18:16am |
re: #255 realwest
Good morning my friend! Gosh I really LOVED NYC in the spring - actually loved it year round but spring especially!
How are you doing today?
I'm all right... Heading for Boston tomorrow for the long weekend... Should be fun...
How are you doing?
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realwest Wed, May 21, 2008 6:18:28am |
re: #256 maddogg Hey there maddogg! What are there names? Are "all else failed" and "xwargame" two of 'em? They were the two dinging down THIS thread and whom I invited to come out and play at #236 but I reckon they don't feel like chatting with us!
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realwest Wed, May 21, 2008 6:20:07am |
re: #260 phil flavin Ah, as in "Goodbye Columbus"?! And I'm sorry, but I thought "crew" was a sculling term!
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 6:21:01am |
re: #259 Endangered in MASS
I went on a tour to West Berlin with a group of soldiers. While there we went on a tour of East Berlin in Class A uniform. As part of the SOFA ( status of forces agreement) French, British, US and Soviet had access to the other's zones in Berlin for recreational purposes.
As part of the tour we were left for two hours in East Berlin in the Alexandria Platz or as the commies so ingeniously redsignated it ,Karl Marx Platz. It was surreal.
Taking pictures of bridges,military installations etc was verbotten and result in immediate STASI or KGB interdiction.
I remember. Lots of folks I knew got to go to Berlin, but because of my mother's position with the government I was not allowed to go to a huge number of places most US citizens could visit at the time. Had an entire page of "not valid for" stamps in the front of the passport.
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phil flavin Wed, May 21, 2008 6:21:10am |
re: #263 realwest
Hey there maddogg! What are there names? Are "all else failed" and "xwargame" two of 'em? They were the two dinging down THIS thread and whom I invited to come out and play at #236 but I reckon they don't feel like chatting with us!
Gotta use my troll call.
No blood for oil!
Chimpy McHalliburton
HOPECHANGE
florida 2000
Ohio 2004
That should do it.
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ibmkeyboard Wed, May 21, 2008 6:21:41am |
re: #251 realwest
Heee.
Yeah, I'm just eating this Democrat disarray with a spoon!
morning west!
Obamas changes
will lower
gas prices
down to 12 dollars a gallon.
Affordable health care for the world!
/but you will pay 80 dollars trying to get to a doctor.
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realwest Wed, May 21, 2008 6:21:51am |
re: #262 tfc3rid I'm doing ok, I guess - hope you have a great weekend in Bahston! LOL! And they think youse all have a funny accent!
Gee I really miss living/working in Manhattan SO MUCH.
Do you know if NYC is gonna have a Memorial Day Parade and if so will it be on Monday?
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freetoken Wed, May 21, 2008 6:23:25am |
re: #111 Widow'smight
We have enough oil in this country to produce all our own.
That is somewha similar to what another person said earlier this morning (though his was even a stronger statement.)
So, I will ask you the same question I asked him: do you have any evidence for this?
As far as I can determine, from what estimates I can find for southern California, Florida, and ANWR, even if all three were tapped simultaneously they would be nowhere near enough daily production to replace our 11 million barrel per day (roughly) imports.
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 6:24:04am |
I wonder if Bruce Cockburn will become more popular if BHO is elected. Other extreme lefty musicians?
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realwest Wed, May 21, 2008 6:24:40am |
re: #267 ibmkeyboard
HEY THERE YOU! How are you doing ibm? Gee I haven't seen you around in a while and it's good to see you again!
Yeah, well I'd make book now that Obama ain't gonna win - something like 50% of Hillary's backers have stated in Exit Polls that they could "never" vote for Obama! LOL!
But I'm afraid those gas prices are gonna go up, no matter who the next POTUS is.
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maddogg Wed, May 21, 2008 6:24:50am |
re: #263 realwest
Hey there maddogg! What are there names? Are "all else failed" and "xwargame" two of 'em? They were the two dinging down THIS thread and whom I invited to come out and play at #236 but I reckon they don't feel like chatting with us!
Morning, realwest. Besides the two dinging this thread down, we also have Artki, and wvobiwan. I too have invited them to breakfast.
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realwest Wed, May 21, 2008 6:25:48am |
re: #266 phil flavin
Are those the nicnames of the folks dinging folks down on the threads from yesterday?! Who the hell are they?! Which threads?
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nyc redneck Wed, May 21, 2008 6:26:48am |
re: #241 LeonidasOfSparta
Babba-- where are you these days? If you're out there reading-- Hi Babba!
{babba zee}
yes, where's babba?
anyway, good morning everyone.
abt. hussein's, big crowd, well, jon cary was able to get 80,000 people at a rally. they showed up to see bruce springstien, enjoyed the music and then promptly went home w/out voting.
so a big crowd is no guarantee.
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 6:26:49am |
re: #274 buzzsawmonkey
Now there's an insufferably smug performer I have mercifully not heard about for a while.
I went to see him in Seattle at some theater downtown. Good show. That was when I was still a member of the CPUSA.
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 6:27:18am |
re: #277 laZardo
...Cock-burn?
/hump day penis thread is now in session
*whack*
Seriously, it's pronounced "Coburn" but, you knew that already, didn't you?
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laZardo Wed, May 21, 2008 6:28:55am |
re: #281 MandyManners
*whacked* X_x
But seriously, I don't know many extreme lefty musicians apart from the ones on MTV here. (; I tried to prevent myself from cringing when I saw U2's Katrina tribute video...
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realwest Wed, May 21, 2008 6:29:16am |
re: #279 MandyManners
Good morning Mandy! How are you today?
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phil flavin Wed, May 21, 2008 6:29:30am |
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OldLineTexan Wed, May 21, 2008 6:29:30am |
re: #285 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
Morning all!
Good morning cutie!
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tigerwoman Wed, May 21, 2008 6:29:31am |
Okay Lizards please help me as my head is about to explode. Did anyone hear this?! My damn BP is through the roof. I HATE our press. All I heard about this was Obama drew 75K people to one of his rallies. It ruined my day when I heard this. Now the truth comes out. Spread the word guys and gals! Do the job our press refuses to do!
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 6:29:58am |
re: #275 Endangered in MASS
Was your mom a spook?
Would you believe I do not know? There are some things I know about her life, but there is an entire decade completely missing. I know she was at Yalta. There are some things I have known about all of my life that I only learned as an adult were not public knowledge. And when she came to visit me in Germany we were leaving the airport and she looks around, says "Why I haven't been here since. . " and slapped both hands over her face. Flatly refused to say another word, no matter how I begged. In her later years she had brain surgery several times - always with the Men In Black in the same room in case she said something she shouldn't have. (I don't know if they were Secret Service or FBI or CIA.)
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 6:30:11am |
re: #274 buzzsawmonkey
Now there's an insufferably smug performer I have mercifully not heard about for a while.
Are he and Alexander Cockburn related?
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realwest Wed, May 21, 2008 6:30:36am |
re: #282 BFSkinner Good morning to you. Say, didn't you write a book about behavioral science or was that someone else?!
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WriterMom Wed, May 21, 2008 6:30:54am |
You all really should listen to Steyn on the radio...he's so funny. Talkign about Obama and the Bush speech now.
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Widow'smight Wed, May 21, 2008 6:31:08am |
re: #270 freetoken
There are also hundreds of wells still capped, a huge Oil-shale deposit in Colorado/Utah, a estimated 400 billion barrel field in Montana/N. Dakota. Plus, there are many places in the Gulf of Mexico we're not allowed to explore.
We went from 9 million barrels per day production in 1985 to 5 million today, and it wasn't because the wells dried up.
There is also enough Natural Gas in the Gulf to Power every home in the US for 150 years from what I read.
What are we saving it for?
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 6:31:09am |
re: #289 tigerwoman
Okay Lizards please help me as my head is about to explode. Did anyone hear this?! My damn BP is through the roof. I HATE our press. All I heard about this was Obama drew 75K people to one of his rallies. It ruined my day when I heard this. Now the truth comes out. Spread the word guys and gals! Do the job our press refuses to do!
Yes we heard about it. Very communist band it was too. I posted links above.
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 6:31:14am |
re: #284 laZardo
*whacked* X_x
But seriously, I don't know many extreme lefty musicians apart from the ones on MTV here. (; I tried to prevent myself from cringing when I saw U2's Katrina tribute video...
Rage against the Machine.
Is Tracey Chapman an extreme lefty?
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OldLineTexan Wed, May 21, 2008 6:31:47am |
re: #281 MandyManners
*wha* the ck is silent
Seriously, it's pronounced "Coburn" but, you knew that already, didn't you?
See above. It's going to get confusing if the silent "ck" becomes popular.
/Time to get ba to work; I need to go ki start the day.
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Endangered in MASS Wed, May 21, 2008 6:31:50am |
re: #290 buzzsawmonkey
"He's big with OXFAM. His career is that of an emotional vulture, stuffed fat on the carrion of other people's misery. He comes back from some leftist starvation swamp and makes pretty ditties of peasant misery for his broad-backsided audiences, so that they can feel vicarious empathy for the Noble Poor."
But can you trip on his crunchy grooves?
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Grammy Cracker Wed, May 21, 2008 6:31:54am |
GOOD MORNING, LIZARDS! Is everyone doing well today, I hope? HOPE! CHANGE!
How about a little humor with your morning coffee?
/The site's a work in progress, but I'm having fun doing it.
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BFSkinner Wed, May 21, 2008 6:32:09am |
re: #294 realwest
Good morning to you. Say, didn't you write a book about behavioral science or was that someone else?!
The "real" B.F. Skinner was the most famous Psychologist of the last century. He led the field of Radical Behaviorism. He was an Agnostic Humanist. Founder of Operant Conditioning. He is the person I most admire, so I use the handle online.
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realwest Wed, May 21, 2008 6:32:14am |
re: #270 freetoken How's about if we did all that - could we make up the differnece in imports from say Mexico and Canada?
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realwest Wed, May 21, 2008 6:33:04am |
re: #285 The Pulchritudinous Patriot Good morning to you! How are you this fine morning?
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 6:33:22am |
re: #290 buzzsawmonkey
He's big with OXFAM. His career is that of an emotional vulture, stuffed fat on the carrion of other people's misery. He comes back from some leftist starvation swamp and makes pretty ditties of peasant misery for his broad-backsided audiences, so that they can feel vicarious empathy for the Noble Poor.
Don't like the fellow much do ya'?!
I googled and found this.
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 6:33:54am |
re: #286 realwest
Good morning Mandy! How are you today?
I'm fine! How're you and your mom?
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Carl B Wed, May 21, 2008 6:34:24am |
** Breaking News at Augean Stables **
French court reportedly overturns Karsenty conviction in al-Dura hoax!
More details to follow. But word from Paris is that the court dismissed charges against Philippe Karsenty today. Now we get to see how the French (and Western) MSM handle this. It’s a stunning victory for Karsenty and loss for Enderlin and France2 who initiated this case when they didn’t have to.In order for an appeals court to reverse a decision, they must have strong evidence to the contrary.
The fact that they did indicates that their written decision will be very critical of France2. The implications of this decision are immense. We’ll be following up in the days, weeks and months to come.
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Endangered in MASS Wed, May 21, 2008 6:34:25am |
re: #298 MandyManners
Is Tracey Chapman an extreme lefty?
I am gonna go out on limb and say her idea of "social justice" would be a Mao like purge of undesirables.
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laZardo Wed, May 21, 2008 6:34:35am |
re: #298 MandyManners
RAtM = Sellout. >__>
Dunno about Chapman though, I hardly watch MTV at all anymore... 'cept for perhaps Celebrity Deathmatch.
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 6:34:47am |
re: #300 buzzsawmonkey
I don't believe so; Bruce is Canadian, and Alex is a Brit.
Remarkable coincidence in the name.
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realwest Wed, May 21, 2008 6:35:01am |
re: #290 buzzsawmonkey Hey buzz - I dinged you up on that! Loved that last " He comes back from some leftist starvation swamp and makes pretty ditties of peasant misery for his broad-backsided audiences, so that they can feel vicarious empathy for the Noble Poor." a lot!
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tigerwoman Wed, May 21, 2008 6:35:24am |
Thank you Granny. Sorry I didn't have time to read the entire thread. I should have known you guys were on top of this!
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 6:35:31am |
re: #301 OldLineTexan
See above. It's going to get confusing if the silent "ck" becomes popular.
/Time to get ba to work; I need to go ki start the day.
ROFLMAO! LOL!
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Mars Needs Neocons Wed, May 21, 2008 6:35:34am |
re: #304 BFSkinner
The "real" B.F. Skinner was the most famous Psychologist of the last century. He led the field of Radical Behaviorism. He was an Agnostic Humanist. Founder of Operant Conditioning. He is the person I most admire, so I use the handle online.
One of my final Psych papers that I wrote was on Skinner. I think he had some good ideas, but later psychologists took some strange turnings and didn't fully flesh out what he was heading toward.
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Endangered in MASS Wed, May 21, 2008 6:35:44am |
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 6:35:54am |
re: #306 OldLineTexan
Wow. Just plain wow.
It is actually pretty frustrating you know. My mother died nearly 30 years ago so I can't get any further information from her, my Dad refuses to say anything and yet as family things come our way we keep discovering things. Two years ago I discovered that the name that I knew her as was similar to but not the same as the one she was born with - changed right after she went to DC.
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ibmkeyboard Wed, May 21, 2008 6:36:38am |
re: #281 MandyManners
re: #277 laZardo
...Cock-burn?
/hump day penis thread is now in session
*whack*
Why cant we ever have a legs thread?
[Link: www.zoccoli-style.com...]
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Widow'smight Wed, May 21, 2008 6:37:01am |
re: #301 OldLineTexan
I didn't know this guy could sing, although he could blast a corn dodger out of the air while drunk with his Colt.
[Link: www.imdb.com...]
How ya doin?
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laZardo Wed, May 21, 2008 6:37:03am |
re: #320 galloping granny
Maybe she was a ZIONIST AGENT. O_O
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vxbush Wed, May 21, 2008 6:38:10am |
*Yawn*
Good morning, everyone. It's taking me an extra long time to wake up today. Reading some interesting news today: some good, some insane. Not sure what people would be interested in here.
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OldLineTexan Wed, May 21, 2008 6:38:14am |
re: #322 Widow'smight
I am just barely here. Please don't tell me Rooster's "g" is silent; I've so few bubbles left to burst.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, May 21, 2008 6:38:25am |
re: #321 ibmkeyboard
Why cant we ever have a legs thread?
[Link: www.zoccoli-style.com...]
I second that. Then we could play some ZZ Top instead of getting Cockburned!
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BFSkinner Wed, May 21, 2008 6:38:38am |
re: #318 Mars Needs Neocons
One of my final Psych papers that I wrote was on Skinner. I think he had some good ideas, but later psychologists took some strange turnings and didn't fully flesh out what he was heading toward.
Unfortuantly a lot of what he taught is not taught correctly by many professors today who mis-represent what his views were. I know, big suprise huh, that professors of today do not do a good job in teaching reality. :)
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realwest Wed, May 21, 2008 6:40:46am |
re: #303 Grammy Cracker Hey there {Grammy}! Oh, No - you've started a blog, TOO?! Egads, Mandy's starting one too (one of these days) and BZ and lawhawk and zombie and Jammie all already have theirs, who the heck is gonna be left to chat with?
LOL! Great, funny first time out of the gates though Grammy, I must say! Loved Kerry's answer to why did the chicken cross the road!
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Mars Needs Neocons Wed, May 21, 2008 6:41:05am |
I think also if you read my comment from the other day you'll see that BHO is the product of a twisted kind of conditioning. Maybe not as direct as operant conditioning, but absolutely some form of social engineering.
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 6:41:05am |
re: #312 Endangered in MASS
Is Tracey Chapman an extreme lefty?
I am gonna go out on limb and say her idea of "social justice" would be a Mao like purge of undesirables.
I like "Fast Car"
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ibmkeyboard Wed, May 21, 2008 6:41:48am |
re: #327 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
I second that. Then we could play some ZZ Top instead of getting
Cockburned!
that has to hurt.
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Kulhwch Wed, May 21, 2008 6:41:53am |
re: #2 BlueCanuck
Dang, I think the auto quote function has ingested a dose of Hopium.
/can't remember it's half-life
Well, as long as it's not Thiotimoline, we're okay ...
}:) ['morning, lizards ... *yawn* ... is there fresh coffee?]
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yesandno Wed, May 21, 2008 6:41:59am |
re: #270 freetoken
That is somewha similar to what another person said earlier this morning (though his was even a stronger statement.)
So, I will ask you the same question I asked him: do you have any evidence for this?
As far as I can determine, from what estimates I can find for southern California, Florida, and ANWR, even if all three were tapped simultaneously they would be nowhere near enough daily production to replace our 11 million barrel per day (roughly) imports.
Don't think the initial response to all this is "REPLACEMENT". Rather then that, it is a way to begin to reduce dependence and still have enough fuel to let the economy function while we develop alternative resources. It isn't a question of one against the other, but rather a manner of allowing us breathing room until we can sever the chord.
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maddogg Wed, May 21, 2008 6:42:00am |
re: #321 ibmkeyboard
Why cant we ever have a legs thread?
[Link: www.zoccoli-style.com...]
I too, am a leg man, and thats a good question. Discrimination! Equal time for gams!
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realwest Wed, May 21, 2008 6:42:02am |
re: #304 BFSkinner Well if he's the person you most admire, I don't blame you for using his name as your nic. Uh, is he still alive (sorry for my ignorance here)?
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Grammy Cracker Wed, May 21, 2008 6:42:03am |
re: #329 GeeWiz
LOL! Great site, I'm impress.
Thanks! I pretty much had to do it...holding all the inevitable rants in during this election cycle was giving me a screaming headache...LOL
If only I could get the layout the way I want it... Sigh. Not quite geeky enough yet, don't ya know!
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Mars Needs Neocons Wed, May 21, 2008 6:42:10am |
re: #330 buzzsawmonkey
If you did a paper on Skinner and Kinsey, you could call it "Skinner and Boner."
That was just plain awful. LOL
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Dustoff-507 Wed, May 21, 2008 6:42:26am |
OK I'm here, the cheering can start.
/ hope I don't get beat for that one. (-:
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Endangered in MASS Wed, May 21, 2008 6:42:41am |
re: #291 galloping granny
I'll take that as a yes. Sounds like she was old school OSS. The kind that was privy to and participated in some heavy duty skullduggery.
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OldLineTexan Wed, May 21, 2008 6:42:53am |
re: #334 laZardo
I declare a fatwa on you for that.
May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your armpits.
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Ojoe Wed, May 21, 2008 6:43:10am |
I can't eat as much as I want. Guess I'll eat my shorts.
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BFSkinner Wed, May 21, 2008 6:43:11am |
re: #340 realwest
Well if he's the person you most admire, I don't blame you for using his name as your nic. Uh, is he still alive (sorry for my ignorance here)?
Yes, he died in 1990 or so.
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realwest Wed, May 21, 2008 6:43:36am |
re: #310 MandyManners
Glad to hear you're doing well! I'm more or less ok, and Mom is good, but she always gets "tense" whenever we have a list of daunting chores to do and boy do we have one today!
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laZardo Wed, May 21, 2008 6:43:52am |
re: #321 ibmkeyboard
Then it's time to get dressed...
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WriterMom Wed, May 21, 2008 6:44:00am |
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Ojoe Wed, May 21, 2008 6:44:21am |
Half a biscuit for breakfast and no bacon, and the world will love us once again.
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maddogg Wed, May 21, 2008 6:44:22am |
re: #347 Ojoe
I can't eat as much as I want. Guess I'll eat my shorts.
If Obama can get all the lefties to stop eating, I'll vote for him.
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Kenneth Wed, May 21, 2008 6:44:39am |
re: #324 buzzsawmonkey
Good morning. I once had the great displeasure of sitting at a table next to the Bruce Cockburn was sitting at in a restaurant in Toronto. Surrounded by sycophants he held forth on all topics with a whiny self-important faux-sensitive morally superior tone. In fact in everything, he would insist on his moral superiority: which food to order, which wine to drink, which films & plays he had "been impressed with"...on & on & on. The man was a Class A Drip.
I found myself singing, "if i had a rocket launcher..."
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Grammy Cracker Wed, May 21, 2008 6:44:49am |
re: #331 realwest
Hey there {Grammy}! Oh, No - you've started a blog, TOO?! Egads, Mandy's starting one too (one of these days) and BZ and lawhawk and zombie and Jammie all already have theirs, who the heck is gonna be left to chat with?
LOL! Great, funny first time out of the gates though Grammy, I must say! Loved Kerry's answer to why did the chicken cross the road!
Well...since I have exactly NO previous experience in creating and maintaining a blog, I decided to start three at once! What the heck...LOL
My 'Crumbs' site is the only one for commentary, news and humor, though. I have one for photography and one for dog-related issues, too.
I've been busy lately...
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Dustoff-507 Wed, May 21, 2008 6:45:37am |
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Ojoe Wed, May 21, 2008 6:45:46am |
re: #351 WriterMom
Do not drink so much coffee, other countries say it is not OK.
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 6:45:47am |
re: #324 buzzsawmonkey
I don't like his politics, and I don't like that he gives them--or used to give them--an extra gloss by claiming to be some sort of born-again.
For the most part, he has managed to keep his World Empathy Quest out of the Middle East, but I believe that I once heard/read of him coming out for the "Palestinians." I didn't like that either.
From what I can recall, he really loved the Sandinistas.
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realwest Wed, May 21, 2008 6:46:03am |
re: #320 galloping granny Good morning {galloping granny} you really ought to write a book - do a little more research and write it - your mom was a fascinating person!
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lawhawk Wed, May 21, 2008 6:46:32am |
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. So, Israel and Syria are publicly announcing that they're in talks. No surprises there. No surprise that the Syrians are pushing the claim that Israel has already agreed to give up the Golan.
Oh, and there's preconditions too - Israel wants Syria to give up the ghost on Hamas, Hizbullah, and all the other terrorist groups they support that operate in the region.
Have no doubt that Iran would be none too pleased by all that.
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Ojoe Wed, May 21, 2008 6:47:04am |
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nyc redneck Wed, May 21, 2008 6:47:06am |
re: #357 Ojoe
Do not drink so much coffee, other countries say it is not OK.
can i at least finish this cereal if i promise not to eat again today?
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WriterMom Wed, May 21, 2008 6:47:09am |
re: #357 Ojoe
Ojoe, you for sure already know what I think of that line of thinking...
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WriterMom Wed, May 21, 2008 6:47:38am |
re: #362 nyc redneck
Only if you promise just to wipe with one square for the rest of your life.
HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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realwest Wed, May 21, 2008 6:48:03am |
re: #325 vxbush Good morning {vxbush} I vote for the insane (unless it's about the Bush "apology")!
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 6:48:14am |
re: #354 Kenneth
Good morning. I once had the great displeasure of sitting at a table next to the Bruce Cockburn was sitting at in a restaurant in Toronto. Surrounded by sycophants he held forth on all topics with a whiny self-important faux-sensitive morally superior tone. In fact in everything, he would insist on his moral superiority: which food to order, which wine to drink, which films & plays he had "been impressed with"...on & on & on. The man was a Class A Drip.
I found myself singing, "if i had a rocket launcher..."
LOL!
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freetoken Wed, May 21, 2008 6:48:19am |
re: #296 Widow'smight
There are also hundreds of wells still capped
They're numbered in the thousands, not hundreds... but, does that mean you can still get any/much oil from them?
, a huge Oil-shale deposit in Colorado/Utah,
Nope. It's.Not.Oil. Put simply, calling it "oil shale" is just plain incorrect. It is simply a sedimentary rock with partially decomposed organic matter; said rock can be burned like a very very poor quality coal. Or, if you add energy to it (through extensive heating) you can convert some of the partially decomposed matter into useful liquids. After many decades of trying no one has yet figured out a way to make a commercial liquid industry out of it (though again, if you are really hard up for coal you could burn the stuff - as is done in a couple of European countries.)
a estimated 400 billion barrel field in Montana/N. Dakota.
Nope - that was all fantasy that got blown out of proportion on the internet. The latest USGS estimate of technically recoverable oil is between 3 and 4 billion barrels, over many years of production (of low production rates.)
Plus, there are many places in the Gulf of Mexico we're not allowed to explore.
Oh, where? You mean Florida? Yes, the Floridians in classic NIMBYism don't want oil rigs off their coasts. However, from Texas to Alabama you can find plenty of rigs, and also in the deep waters of the Gulf too.
We went from 9 million barrels per day production in 1985 to 5 million today, and it wasn't because the wells dried up.
Well, about wells... according to the EIA, in 1985 the month with the most US crude production was May, with 283,093,000 barrels. With 31 days in May that makes the average crude production a bit over. However, I wonder why you think "it wasn't because the wells dried up"? Do not oil wells deplete?
There is also enough Natural Gas in the Gulf to Power every home in the US for 150 years from what I read.
? Are these discovered reserves, or estimates?
What are we saving it for?
Because in theory our children and grandchildren will have need for some... oil is not just used for transport but for all sorts of products.
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 6:48:22am |
re: #359 realwest
Good morning {galloping granny} you really ought to write a book - do a little more research and write it - your mom was a fascinating person!
But I really don't know anything about her to write realwest, fascinating though she was. I know more than I've told here, but not much more and not a lot, certainly not enough to turn into a book. And anyone that I might have gotten answers from is dead or flatly not talking.
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 6:48:45am |
re: #357 Ojoe
Do not drink so much coffee, other countries say it is not OK.
And let Juan Valdez go idle?!
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WriterMom Wed, May 21, 2008 6:48:48am |
I also liked the Barenaked Ladies a lot more before I heard them spewing their commie moonbat drooling NDP trash. It's sad when artists are moonbats.
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Occasional Reader Wed, May 21, 2008 6:48:58am |
The tragic condition known as "Cockburn" can be avoided with these.
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Kulhwch Wed, May 21, 2008 6:49:03am |
re: #93 Jim in Virginia
Hey, you sound like a good dad to me, as far as I'm concerned you can continue to whine all you like.
}:) [Family is what it's all about ... ]
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JeremyR Wed, May 21, 2008 6:49:06am |
re: #343 Dustoff-507
OK I'm here, the geering can start.
/ hope I don't get beat for that one. (-:
SMACK
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 6:49:30am |
re: #364 buzzsawmonkey
I had a similar experience the one time I saw him perform, at a theatre in Burlington, Vermont. The ventilation system in the theatre could not clear out the suffocating fog of self-congratulation emanating from Cockburn and the audience.
Muscle strain from patting themselves on their backs.
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WriterMom Wed, May 21, 2008 6:49:51am |
re: #376 Occasional Reader
How did I KNOW you were going to show up now?
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 6:50:59am |
re: #366 buzzsawmonkey
Yes indeed he did.
One thing that helped start my exodus from the CPUSA was learning about how the Sandinistas treated the Mosquito (sp?) Indians.
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WriterMom Wed, May 21, 2008 6:51:01am |
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OldLineTexan Wed, May 21, 2008 6:51:04am |
re: #365 WriterMom
Only if you promise just to wipe with one square for the rest of your life.
HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Ask any Marine, they will teach you how to do just that.
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Ojoe Wed, May 21, 2008 6:51:08am |
re: #363 WriterMom
Obama's food quote is indicative of so much.
Why doesn't he believe that all can, and should, have enough to eat?
That right there goes against the very spirit in which this country was founded.
Anyway, here's the Mt. Wilson Towercam this AM. Some little clouds in the canyons, lower right.
Good morning all.
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opnion Wed, May 21, 2008 6:51:31am |
re: #298 MandyManners
Rage against the Machine.
Is Tracey Chapman an extreme lefty?
I never liked Bono. After 9/11 he I disliked him more.
IT was a tribute concert to the victims with people like John Bonjovi.
Everybody had something patriotic on , whether or not they were American.
Bono's turn & no pin or anything, He sings some God awful song & preens all over the place.
At the very end, He pulls open his sport coat just the wee littlest bit, to reveal an American flag sewn inside. He stood there with a smirk that to me seemed like, you don't deserve this ,but here.
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alegrias Wed, May 21, 2008 6:51:35am |
Buenos dias/Mornin' y'all,
Scanned the thread but want to know, have you discussed or noted yesterday's death of Jimmy Carter's brain trust man, Hamilton Jordan?
Jordan was the guy who told Jimmy Carter to campaign in every state, darn him! Some legacy. Poor guy had cancer for twenty years before expiring at 63 yesterday. Did he regret what Carter begat, as worst president ever?
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WriterMom Wed, May 21, 2008 6:51:59am |
re: #384 Ojoe
Because he's part of the leftist death cult-humans suck-zero population growth-save Gaia movement.
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freetoken Wed, May 21, 2008 6:52:13am |
re: #338 yesandno
I'm not really against drilling off either of these states... but at the same time I do believe people are wanting to believe something that is false, namely, we can simply 'drill our way out of it', as some have said.
We really, really have painted ourselves into a tight corner... with our oil requirements. Honestly, I don't see a way out that doesn't incur some discomfort. We're just going to have to suck up and live more frugally.
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Kenneth Wed, May 21, 2008 6:52:25am |
re: #366 buzzsawmonkey
All together, in your best whiny voice:
Her scent was lemony,
As we fought US hegemony,
She was my anarcho-syndicalist,
Marxist-Leninist Lover,
Yeah, Baby
My favourite parody of a Bruce Cockburn song. Note the characteristic broken meter & weak rhymes.
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realwest Wed, May 21, 2008 6:52:28am |
re: #334 laZardo LOL! Well you could always post some Scorpions or Dylan so we don't miss WLGF too much!
Like this one: [Link: www.imeem.com...]
Although I prefer this version myself: [Link: www.imeem.com...]
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nyc redneck Wed, May 21, 2008 6:52:30am |
re: #365 WriterMom
Only if you promise just to wipe with one square for the rest of your life.
HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
is there a restriction on corncobs or the sears catalog yet?
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Occasional Reader Wed, May 21, 2008 6:52:40am |
re: #374 WriterMom
I also liked the Barenaked Ladies
I always found their music quite boring.
So I don't feel so bad about their being pinkos.
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 6:52:49am |
re: #376 Occasional Reader
The tragic condition known as "Cockburn" can be avoided with these.
LOL! I was thinking of asbestos-lined Eldridge Cleaver pants.
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WriterMom Wed, May 21, 2008 6:53:12am |
re: #383 OldLineTexan
What a great conversation starter! See a gorgeous marine, flutter eyelashes and ask how to wipe with one square. Ladies! Remember this...
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Occasional Reader Wed, May 21, 2008 6:53:28am |
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Carl B Wed, May 21, 2008 6:53:50am |
re: #378 JeremyR
re: #343 Dustoff-507
OK I'm here, the geering can start.
/ hope I don't get beat for that one. (-:
SMACK
OK, I'll bite with a jeer: what do you mean by "geering"? :-)
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realwest Wed, May 21, 2008 6:53:58am |
re: #343 Dustoff-507
Yea! applause, applause YEA! Dustoff's here YEA!
There, make y'all feel better my friend?! LOL!
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OldLineTexan Wed, May 21, 2008 6:54:01am |
re: #374 WriterMom
I also liked the Barenaked Ladies a lot more before I heard them spewing their commie moonbat drooling NDP trash. It's sad when artists are moonbats.
No offense to you or Canadians in general, but one look at those guys and the fact that they are Canadian adds up to "moonbat" pretty quick.
I still like the white-boy rap song with the "Chinese chicken" line, and "It's All Been Done". Fun group.
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 6:54:06am |
re: #385 opnion
I never liked Bono. After 9/11 he I disliked him more.
IT was a tribute concert to the victims with people like John Bonjovi.
Everybody had something patriotic on , whether or not they were American.
Bono's turn & no pin or anything, He sings some God awful song & preens all over the place.
At the very end, He pulls open his sport coat just the wee littlest bit, to reveal an American flag sewn inside. He stood there with a smirk that to me seemed like, you don't deserve this ,but here.
Funny how many lefty artists rake in those Capitalist dollars.
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redstateredneck Wed, May 21, 2008 6:54:31am |
re: #374 WriterMom
I also liked the Barenaked Ladies a lot more before I heard them spewing their commie moonbat drooling NDP trash. It's sad when artists are moonbats.
If they were from the south their name would be Butt-Nekkid Wimmin.
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OldLineTexan Wed, May 21, 2008 6:54:40am |
re: #378 JeremyR
SMACK
I'm sorry, that's pronounced "SMA"...the ck is silent!
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Occasional Reader Wed, May 21, 2008 6:54:46am |
re: #389 Kenneth
All together, in your best whiny voice:
My favourite parody of a Bruce Cockburn song. Note the characteristic broken meter & weak rhymes.
And yet without even knowing his music, I bet Cockburn is both a poet, a great musician, and a rock-ribbed conservative, next to Billy Bragg.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, May 21, 2008 6:54:50am |
re: #364 buzzsawmonkey
I
had a similar experience the one time I saw him perform, at a theatre
in Burlington, Vermont. The ventilation system in the theatre could not
clear out the suffocating fog of self-congratulation emanating from
Cockburn and the audience.
Smug alert! Smug alert!
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WriterMom Wed, May 21, 2008 6:54:57am |
re: #396 Occasional Reader
Truth be told, I saw it yesterday in Reuters 'oddly enough', but didn't have the perfect opportunity to post it till now. BLESS YOU BLESS YOU.
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 6:55:17am |
re: #386 alegrias
Buenos dias/Mornin' y'all,
Scanned the thread but want to know, have you discussed or noted yesterday's death of Jimmy Carter's brain trust man, Hamilton Jordan?
Jordan was the guy who told Jimmy Carter to campaign in every state, darn him! Some legacy. Poor guy had cancer for twenty years before expiring at 63 yesterday. Did he regret what Carter begat, as worst president ever?
I saw that yesterday and the name took me back in memory to some rather gloomy days.
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OldLineTexan Wed, May 21, 2008 6:55:17am |
re: #390 buzzsawmonkey
But can they make an origami peace crane afterwards?
If they are eating MREs, no, but they can make an adobe hut.
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laZardo Wed, May 21, 2008 6:55:22am |
re: #391 realwest
And on a random musical note...
laZee + babbaZee = ZeeZee Top?
/where's my rotating guitar belt?
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OldLineTexan Wed, May 21, 2008 6:55:53am |
re: #397 Carl B
re: #343 Dustoff-507
OK I'm here, the geering can start.
/ hope I don't get beat for that one. (-:
OK, I'll bite with a jeer: what do you mean by "geering"? :-)
That's where you get an actor, a gerbil, and a paper towel tube, and you...
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alegrias Wed, May 21, 2008 6:56:20am |
re: #361 Ojoe
Fat chance.
* * *
Eating less for most of us would be a good thing, and an example to our younger people, who grow flabby & look to others to help them lose weight & keep their fitness. How many of our countries' kids can't even waddle outside to play without electronics? We have early onset obesity/diabetes problems that will bankrupt families & fed alike!
So eating less is a discipline thing as individuals we would be smart to try. Charles Johnson is a foremost example of fitness & fabulousness, thanks to portion control no doubt (not that I know our lizard leader).
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Ojoe Wed, May 21, 2008 6:56:25am |
re: #401 redstateredneck
There was a CW band called "Buck Naked and the Bare-Ass boys", here once.
My favourite CW band name: Kerosene Kondors
Just local I think (No. Cal)
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ibmkeyboard Wed, May 21, 2008 6:56:29am |
re: #361 Ojoe
If Obama can get all the lefties to stop eating, I'll vote for him.
Fat chance.
If he can scellulite, I will vote for him.
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JeremyR Wed, May 21, 2008 6:56:38am |
re: #386 alegrias
Buenos dias/Mornin' y'all,
Scanned the thread but want to know, have you discussed or noted yesterday's death of Jimmy Carter's brain trust man, Hamilton Jordan?
Jordan was the guy who told Jimmy Carter to campaign in every state, darn him! Some legacy. Poor guy had cancer for twenty years before expiring at 63 yesterday. Did he regret what Carter begat, as worst president ever?
Hard to believe he was only 63. Another subject where I need to keep quiet. He and Floater get a pass so I don't get banned for language befitting a Daily KOS writer.
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incanus Wed, May 21, 2008 6:56:48am |
re: #93 Jim in Virginia
A personal note. I'm bummed. My two seventh grade daughters head off today on the annual school camping trip to West Virginia. Normally I'd go- it's a great trip. Instead I am heading to Nebraska for a funeral. My mom's last surviving sibling died at 92. Mom is 85, (she is in amazingly good health, just got a new cornea.) She will be there along with a dozen cousins, so she will have lots of moral support.I And it will be great for the extended family to get together. There is a lot to be thankful for. My uncle had dementia but was otherwise very content and in good health until a couple week sbefore he died. He had been in a nursing home the last two years. We will probably sell the farm now (he was the last one living there). It has been in the family for over a century. For me, it's grandma's house. It's the house my mom grew up in. Lots of good memories (we've forgotten the bad ones), but as much as we will miss the place, no one wants to live there. What we miss is all the people who used to fill the house.
It will be a bittersweet trip.
I missed my daughters' school trip last year for another out of town funeral. Being a grown up sucks some times.
OK, I'll stop whining. Thanks.
Hang in there. I know from recent experience that people here WILL BE thinking of you and that it WILL help.
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WriterMom Wed, May 21, 2008 6:57:13am |
re: #399 OldLineTexan
Ya. Just fun music. With some funny stuff.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, May 21, 2008 6:57:20am |
re: #374 WriterMom
I also liked the Barenaked Ladies a lot more before I heard them
spewing their commie moonbat drooling NDP trash. It's sad when artists
are moonbats.
Barenaked Ladies? There's a case of flagrant false advertising if I ever saw one!
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ibmkeyboard Wed, May 21, 2008 6:57:29am |
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freetoken Wed, May 21, 2008 6:57:45am |
Well, I've got to run... but I'll repost a link I put out last night. For all of you who are interested in the USGS estimates of oil (and other hydrocarbons), here is their official webpage:
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incanus Wed, May 21, 2008 6:57:49am |
re: #96 Jim in Virginia
If there were a cost effective way to make biofuel from kudzu, we could tell OPEC to kiss our grits.
Recently I heard that biomass ethanol is making progress and will be viable within a few years. Here's hoping ...
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JeremyR Wed, May 21, 2008 6:57:50am |
re: #397 Carl B
I hit the wrong side of the H key when I edited it. PIMF.
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Kenneth Wed, May 21, 2008 6:57:52am |
re: #405 WriterMom
Big Phallological Museum is Ripping Us Off!
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realwest Wed, May 21, 2008 6:58:33am |
re: #372 galloping granny Crap, that's a real shame - sounds like she was either old OSS or brand spanking new CIA but could have been any one of a bunch of other Intel agencies too. Would love to hear more about her though! (HINT!)!
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OldLineTexan Wed, May 21, 2008 6:58:39am |
re: #395 WriterMom
What a great conversation starter! See a gorgeous marine, flutter eyelashes and ask how to wipe with one square. Ladies! Remember this...
I know a few Devil Dogs...be careful if you're joking, because that ploy would work.
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redstateredneck Wed, May 21, 2008 6:58:41am |
re: #412 Ojoe
There was a CW band called "Buck Naked and the Bare-Ass boys", here once.
My favourite CW band name: Kerosene Kondors
Just local I think (No. Cal)
These guys?
A San Francisco, California based band, (originally from Omaha, Nebraska) whose music, in a rockabilly vein, was dubbed pornobilly thanks to their lyrics and song titles. Buck Naked (whose real name was Phillip Bury) himself used to turn up on stage wearing only cowboy boots, a cowboy hat, a guitar, and a strategically placed toilet plunger. Filling out the band were Buck's brother, Stephen Bury (taking the stage name "Hector Naked") and David Wees (known on stage as "Stinky LePew"). Despite its name, the rest of the band were always fully clothed on stage
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 6:59:08am |
re: #410 WriterMom
Lefty artist LUUUVVVSS $$$.
I wonder if they get all the free stuff that Hollywood stars get from designers' marketing people.
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JeremyR Wed, May 21, 2008 6:59:16am |
re: #409 OldLineTexan
That's where you get an actor, a gerbil, and a paper towel tube, and you...
I learned something new already. And you know this HOW?
Ducks runs...
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Kenneth Wed, May 21, 2008 7:00:35am |
re: #410 WriterMom
It's the morality version of Carbon Offsets. Make tubs of money singing tunes, partying and taking drugs. Balance that with a preachy moral superiority, telling other people how toi think & live.
And wear pink sunglasses.
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redstateredneck Wed, May 21, 2008 7:00:55am |
re: #423 incanus
Recently I heard that biomass ethanol is making progress and will be viable within a few years. Here's hoping ...
My BIL is working on a biofuel from switchgrass project at the University of Tennessee.
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nyc redneck Wed, May 21, 2008 7:01:07am |
re: #385 opnion
I never liked Bono. After 9/11 he I disliked him more.
IT was a tribute concert to the victims with people like John Bonjovi.
Everybody had something patriotic on , whether or not they were American.
Bono's turn & no pin or anything, He sings some God awful song & preens all over the place.
At the very end, He pulls open his sport coat just the wee littlest bit, to reveal an American flag sewn inside. He stood there with a smirk that to me seemed like, you don't deserve this ,but here.
i remember when he was asking for a mere 8 billion dollars so he could solve all of africa's problems. just like that.
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OldLineTexan Wed, May 21, 2008 7:01:09am |
re: #432 JeremyR
I learned something new already. And you know this HOW?
Ducks runs...
Montrose is just down the road.
Houston is a port city.
My wife likes the E! channel on cable.
I have a good friend who is an ER nurse.
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opnion Wed, May 21, 2008 7:01:27am |
re: #400 MandyManners
Funny how many lefty artists rake in those Capitalist dollars.
The thing about Bono is, he is always over here trying to put us on a guilt trip. More cash for Africa, more cash for this, more cash for that.
Worthy causes, but Bono is Irish. How about a shake down on the European Union?
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 7:01:34am |
I still love Steve Earle's Copperhead Road.
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GeeWiz Wed, May 21, 2008 7:01:50am |
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Kulhwch Wed, May 21, 2008 7:01:58am |
Okay, this foul beast is dragging hisself off to work now ... have a good productive day, lizards.
}:) [ ... and still *yawn* I can't get awake ... ]
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 7:02:00am |
re: #433 buzzsawmonkey
Big Phallological Museum is Jerking Us Off.
*snicker*
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godfrey Wed, May 21, 2008 7:02:10am |
re: #437 redstateredneck
Yee ha. Get that mojo working, and drill like crazy in ANWR and elsewhere.
Rock the casbah, on its heels.
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WriterMom Wed, May 21, 2008 7:02:22am |
re: #430 MandyManners
I dunno. But the swag situation for stars is out of control. You should see the stuff that gets distributed at the Toronto International Film Festival. Unbelievable.
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Occasional Reader Wed, May 21, 2008 7:02:54am |
re: #419 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Barenaked Ladies? There's a case of flagrant false advertising if I ever saw one!
Call Lionel Hutz! (He won that landmark case against the producers of The Neverending Story)
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redstateredneck Wed, May 21, 2008 7:02:58am |
re: #446 godfrey
Yee ha. Get that mojo working, and drill like crazy in ANWR and elsewhere.
Rock the casbah, on its heels.
They have opened a lot of old wells here in southwest Mississippi.
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realwest Wed, May 21, 2008 7:03:37am |
re: #408 laZardo LOL!
Hey seriously, listen to that second tune I linked to, Eric Clapton and Lenny Kravitz doing All Along the Watchtower - really good shit [Link: www.imeem.com...]...]
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 7:03:38am |
I was browsing tornado videos on youtube the other day and was impressed with the way the men reacted to the tornadoes, which strike me as giant phallic storms.
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Kenneth Wed, May 21, 2008 7:03:42am |
The one central issue that has never been resolved or even officially debated because of political sensitivity is what is the strategic center of gravity of the enemy? Is it the theology of militant Islam? Is is venture capital support for terrorist entrepreneurs? Is it states seeking to develop WMDs? Is it Islam itself?
Neither party seems inclined to give an answer. President Bush has given the impression that the enemy consists of renegades to the "religion of peace". Barack Obama appears to agree -- about the "religion of peace" part -- and seems to suggest the enemy is much as President Bush has described them. Except that they are in Afghanistan and not in Iraq.
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godfrey Wed, May 21, 2008 7:03:43am |
re: #441 opnion
Bono has good fu, and he's clearly a cut above average. Let him run.
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 7:04:05am |
re: #447 WriterMom
I dunno. But the swag situation for stars is out of control. You should see the stuff that gets distributed at the Toronto International Film Festival. Unbelievable.
'Dems dat got, gets.
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alegrias Wed, May 21, 2008 7:04:18am |
re: #431 buzzsawmonkey
Since we're talking about leftists urging everyone eat less, how about a new set of prepared heat-and-eat meals, called--naturally--Global™ Warming Meals?
Guaranteed to make you carbon-footprint compliant! Five exotic Third World meals!
* * *
You don't like no stinkin' frijoles?
They are excellent for you! 1/2 cup a day keeps heart attack away.
Have you see the price of tapas & "small plates" appetizers lately? They are exotic third world bites and we pay top dollar for them & like them...
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laZardo Wed, May 21, 2008 7:04:49am |
re: #385 opnion
I gave Incubus' "Megalomaniac" a probationary spot on my playlist after I read a forum post saying it could actually be interpreted to be criticizing Bono, not Bush.
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redstateredneck Wed, May 21, 2008 7:05:02am |
re: #451 Ojoe
Willie Rubio - Lead vocals, rhythm guitar. Buddy Stubbs - Lead guitar. Luke Stone - Piano. Scott Southard/Nicky Pancakes - Bass, vocals. Jubal Stedman - Drums.
Gotta love a dude named Buddy Stubbs! Nicky Pancakes sounds like Mafia.
;-)
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ibmkeyboard Wed, May 21, 2008 7:05:03am |
re: #428 OldLineTexan
What a great conversation starter! See a gorgeous marine, flutter eyelashes and ask how to wipe with one square.
Ladies! Remember this...
I know a few Devil Dogs...be careful if you're joking, because that ploy would work.
I wiped with jungle leaves and I swear 'the crabs' jumped off them and into my skivvies.
Anyway, thats what I told the first sergeant.
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godfrey Wed, May 21, 2008 7:05:05am |
re: #454 Kenneth
Why publicize what you think the center of gravity is? Let them look around in confusion while you keep popping rounds at the bullseye.
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Widow'smight Wed, May 21, 2008 7:05:18am |
re: #371 freetoken
There are various agencies that measure the Estimated/Recoverable Oil and energy. You probably have researched this further than I, but as with any exploration, you don't really know until you do it.
I have full confidence in the abilities of Oil companies to find/extract the Oil/energy necessary to power this country. Even if we only get half the amount needed to cut out imports, we still will reduce other Oil producers revenue, rasie the value of the US dollar, while keeping more money in this country and giving us more leverage throughout the world.
Maybe we can't replace it all, but why not try? Commodity traders would be shorting 130 dollar a barrel contracts instead of buying them if this happened.
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realwest Wed, May 21, 2008 7:05:19am |
re: #411 alegrias You're correct about eating less and exercise, I just don't want it mandated by the government, ya know?
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opnion Wed, May 21, 2008 7:05:31am |
re: #434 ploome hineni
the nasty Bob Beckel kept on about how Hamilton Jordan got Carter elected, as a huge triumph. Jordan brought an unknown into the White House as if the repercussions of that catastrophe was not being felt up to now.
That is what is wrong with American thinking on a certain level.
Praising someone for getting the worst POS elected President of the USA, while the population VOTING FOR HIM, knew next to nothing about him
/sound familliar?
Beckle thinks that criticism of Barry or Michelle in any guise is racist.
Even if you use their own words, it's racist
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JeremyR Wed, May 21, 2008 7:06:28am |
re: #440 OldLineTexan
Montrose is just down the road.
Houston is a port city.
My wife likes the E! channel on cable.
I have a good friend who is an ER nurse.
Had it happen once when I was at Ft Riley. I got stuck being the MP on call for IAH. Desk was unimpressed when I turned it in as a homicide report.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, May 21, 2008 7:06:29am |
re: #449 Occasional Reader
Call Lionel Hutz! (He won that landmark case against the producers of The Neverending Story)
He has argued in front of every judge in the state, often as a lawyer.
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alegrias Wed, May 21, 2008 7:07:11am |
re: #434 ploome hineni
the nasty Bob Beckel kept on about how Hamilton Jordan got Carter elected, as a huge triumph. Jordan brought an unknown into the White House as if the repercussions of that catastrophe was not being felt up to now.
That is what is wrong with American thinking on a certain level.
Praising someone for getting the worst POS elected President of the USA, while the population VOTING FOR HIM, knew next to nothing about him
/sound familliar?
* * *
Yes, but Carter II is new & improved, with more change & international flavor, less militaristic training than Carter I.
(Did you see where Tom Harkin D-Iowa said McCain has too much military background to be commander in chief, which Harkin says is a civilian job? DUH. Eisenhower, Kennedy, Nixon, Johnson, Ford, Carter, all served in our militaries)
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ibmkeyboard Wed, May 21, 2008 7:07:17am |
re: #433 buzzsawmonkey
Big Phallological Museum is Jerking Us Off.
OOOH Shit!
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Clio Wed, May 21, 2008 7:07:22am |
News flash just posted on the excellent website Augean Stables:
A French Court of Appeals has thrown out France2 Television's claim of libel against Philippe Karsenty.
That is: The court ruled that Karsenty WAS RIGHT in claiming that the report that Israeli soldiers killed the Arab boy Muhammad al-Dura was a France 2 HOAX.
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Wed, May 21, 2008 7:07:24am |
re: #274 buzzsawmonkey
Now there's an insufferably smug performer I have mercifully not heard about for a while.
Hey, it's Franklin
Comin' over to play
I'm glad my kid has outgrown Noggin.
The worst of the lefty folksingers is U. Utah Philips. I walked out of his show when he said money should be liberated from banks because it was just sitting there not doing anybody any good.
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redstateredneck Wed, May 21, 2008 7:07:35am |
re: #471 godfrey
Beckel's an attack dog.
Speaking of attack dogs, where the hell has James Carville been?
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godfrey Wed, May 21, 2008 7:07:56am |
Maybe we can't replace it all, but why not try?
Spotted owls, dude. Rare lichens. Where's your sense of proportion?
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FrogMarch Wed, May 21, 2008 7:08:06am |
Good morning all.
So - The pro-Obama bias is EVERYWHERE today. (today?)
the front page of the Boulder Camera says:
In bold: "OBAMA WIN OREGON; CLOSES ON DEM NOD..."
"Clinton takes lopsided victory in Kentucky"
Look at Yahoo: chick out the photo of McCain vs. Obama. No bias there.
[Link: www.yahoo.com...]
Any description of Obama is laced with positive words.
Any description of Hillary or a Republican is laced with the negative. Nothing new - but it's just amazing how ubiquitous it is.
Big smiling Obama. pimp pimp pimp.
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Occasional Reader Wed, May 21, 2008 7:08:46am |
re: #470 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
"What's that? You want me to drink you? But I'm in the middle of a trial!"
(I am so waiting for the opportunity to use that line... too bad I'm not a trial lawyer)
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JeremyR Wed, May 21, 2008 7:09:02am |
re: #451 Ojoe
Most of the musicians have gotten so bad IMHO. The only agreeable band I've found anymore is Memorex, the all mime group, also the number one seller for more then a decade, yet you never see them on billboards chart anywhere.
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realwest Wed, May 21, 2008 7:09:16am |
re: #461 redstateredneck Hey there {Red} how are you today?
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godfrey Wed, May 21, 2008 7:09:31am |
re: #477 redstateredneck
Carville's probably living large with Mary Matalin and only drinks Abita Springs (LA) beer when someone's watching.
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redstateredneck Wed, May 21, 2008 7:10:59am |
re: #486 realwest
Hey there {Red} how are you today?
{real}!
I'm okay. Been really busy; not much time for LGF.
:-(
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 7:11:14am |
re: #472 alegrias
* * *
Yes, but Carter II is new & improved, with more change & international flavor, less militaristic training than Carter I.(Did you see where Tom Harkin D-Iowa said McCain has too much military background to be commander in chief, which Harkin says is a civilian job? DUH. Eisenhower, Kennedy, Nixon, Johnson, Ford, Carter, all served in our militaries)
I wonder what Harkin thinks of George Washington.
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alegrias Wed, May 21, 2008 7:11:20am |
re: #465 realwest
You're correct about eating less and exercise, I just don't want it mandated by the government, ya know?
* * *
Realwest, I salute you & realize that as a military person, the government already told you just how fit & fabulous you were supposed to be--probably screamed at you at high decibels.
Thank you again for serving our country.
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GeeWiz Wed, May 21, 2008 7:11:26am |
re: #476 realwest
Maybe HRC's stare can turn BHO into...
Turn to Stone
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paxnhymn Wed, May 21, 2008 7:11:49am |
re: #466 opnion
Beckle thinks that criticism of Barry or Michelle in any guise is racist.
Even if you use their own words, it's racist
Beckle's a hack. He's riding the Obamania wave to what he hopes is a continued suckling from the Donkey teat. He probably has a pucker factor of about 9, as does Richardson and others, that if she rangels (snicker) the nomination away from hussein, she's gonna have a whole list of lives to ruin, and they know she'll do it!
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redstateredneck Wed, May 21, 2008 7:11:51am |
re: #487 godfrey
Carville's probably living large with Mary Matalin and only drinks Abita Springs (LA) beer when someone's watching.
I was at a crawfish boil a couple of weeks ago and somebody had the new strawberry Abita. Sounds hideous, but it wasn't half bad.
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Clio Wed, May 21, 2008 7:12:02am |
re: #485 ploome hineni
www.theaugeanstables.com.
The report should soon be out in the media, but Richard Landes, who writes Augean Stables, has been studying this case all along and knows all there is to know about it.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Wed, May 21, 2008 7:13:05am |
re: #462 ibmkeyboard
I wiped with jungle leaves and I swear 'the crabs' jumped off them and into my skivvies.
Anyway, thats what I told the first sergeant.
I just finished reading a book about the Tanker War in the Persian Gulf in the late 80s, Inside The Danger Zone, & the author tells a story that after SEALS boarded a captured Iranian frigate that was so filthy, each SEAL got crabs.
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snowcrash Wed, May 21, 2008 7:13:07am |
re: #477 redstateredneck
James Carville reminds me of the Paul Begala quote, "politics is show business for ugly people." haha
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godfrey Wed, May 21, 2008 7:13:20am |
re: #488 ploome hineni
They only let him out of his cage when it's late in the fight. He has good killer instincts. It takes a personality like Bolton's to put him down.
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Occasional Reader Wed, May 21, 2008 7:13:22am |
re: #472 alegrias
Did you see where Tom Harkin D-Iowa said McCain has too much military background to be commander in chief, which Harkin says is a civilian job?
Mark Steyn and, I think, James Taranto have noted how Harkin's position on this topic has... ah... "evolved"... since the 2004 elections. When, as you recall, being a certified war hero [cough] was trumpeted as a prerequisite to being C-in-C.
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Endangered in MASS Wed, May 21, 2008 7:13:37am |
re: #483 Occasional Reader
Sorry to go OT or it OC?
Some additional thoughts on the Stephen King discussion from the other day..
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vxbush Wed, May 21, 2008 7:13:40am |
re: #476 realwest
Hey thanks, I just LOVE ELO!
You and me both! What fun...that might wake me up!
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godfrey Wed, May 21, 2008 7:14:10am |
Beckle's a hack, but like Carville, he's a good hack.
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 7:14:47am |
Sven-Erik Karlsson, spokesman for Kalmar County Police, said police received a call from the Oskarshamn plant at 7:58 a.m.
"They told us a welder who was going to perform a job there had been stopped in a random security check. He had been carrying small amounts of the highly explosive material TATP," Karlsson said.
SNIP
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redstateredneck Wed, May 21, 2008 7:14:52am |
re: #498 snowcrash
James Carville reminds me of the Paul Begala quote, "politics is show business for ugly people." haha
Great quote, considering it comes from The Forehead.
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godfrey Wed, May 21, 2008 7:15:01am |
Hey, where can I get good information on Obama's advisors these days? I want names.
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Kenneth Wed, May 21, 2008 7:15:03am |
re: #463 godfrey
That's an interesting way to look at it. But I'm not seeing much evidence that Bush or Obama are willing to admit what the center of gravity really is. And if you don't know that, you can't identify the real target, and therefore you can't hit the bullseye.
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JeremyR Wed, May 21, 2008 7:15:04am |
re: #485 ploome hineni
linky please
Seen it mentioned several places this morning. Looking for a link now.
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alegrias Wed, May 21, 2008 7:15:17am |
re: #487 godfrey
Carville's probably living large with Mary Matalin and only drinks Abita Springs (LA) beer when someone's watching.
* * *
Mary Matalin was kind enough to raise money to defray legal expenses for that administration guy who worked for VP Cheney, blamed unjustly in the Valerie Pflame matter. Guy was on crutches, name started with an S...
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turn Wed, May 21, 2008 7:15:32am |
Morning all.
I get the feeling this is mostly a rock your morning music thread.
OK dig this
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maddogg Wed, May 21, 2008 7:15:41am |
Wow, two more brave trolls dinging down posts. Ain't we fortunate?
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realwest Wed, May 21, 2008 7:16:40am |
re: #492 alegrias Uh, you're welcome but you DO realize that it was 30 plus some odd years ago when I was in that kind of shape!
Just meant that politically, now that the government has made cigarette smoking De Facto illegal (too expensive for a lot of folks), they'll be coming after Obesity soon too - and I would truly like the government to stay the hell out of my life.
And the arguements about raising the cost of health care are bullshit - we ALL raise the cost of health care if we have kids, drive, drink, smoke, eat too much, exercise too little (or too much) work too hard, don't work hard enough and on and on and on. Thank you Obama and Hillary and your ilk, I'd like to make my own decisions, thank you very much.
And if Obama and Hillary don't like my attitude about all that, then fuck them very much.
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jorline Wed, May 21, 2008 7:17:00am |
re: #443 GeeWiz
Here's something to wake ya up this mornin'
ELO
Thanks Wiz...now I listening to all of the songs listed...LOL
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alegrias Wed, May 21, 2008 7:17:11am |
re: #491 MandyManners
I wonder what Harkin thinks of George Washington.
* * *
Why do dem Iowans vote for this guy? Iowa's republicans also fell for Huckabee.
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David Simon Wed, May 21, 2008 7:17:28am |
re: #479 ploome hineni
the disgusting yechhh Colmes
My feeling too. Everyone says what a nice man he is, but I can't get past the fact that he's a Jew who defends the indefensible. He's worse than a prostitute as far as I'm concerned.
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godfrey Wed, May 21, 2008 7:18:36am |
re: #508 Kenneth
Yeah, that's the question. Coughlin's demotion, continued support for Abbas, bowing to Saudis... makes you hope that someone (anyone!) is actually dialing it in and shooting straight. It sucks never to know.
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laZardo Wed, May 21, 2008 7:18:40am |
re: #474 Clio
Given that the terrorists who beheaded Daniel Pearl claimed Al-Dura as part of the "reason"... does that mean France2 can be countersued as well?
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lawhawk Wed, May 21, 2008 7:18:46am |
re: #331 realwest
Hey there {Grammy}! Oh, No - you've started a blog, TOO?! Egads, Mandy's starting one too (one of these days) and BZ and lawhawk and zombie and Jammie all already have theirs, who the heck is gonna be left to chat with?
LOL! Great, funny first time out of the gates though Grammy, I must say! Loved Kerry's answer to why did the chicken cross the road!
Hey, I'm still here... aren't I? :)
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alegrias Wed, May 21, 2008 7:19:12am |
re: #495 redstateredneck
I was at a crawfish boil a couple of weeks ago and somebody had the new strawberry Abita. Sounds hideous, but it wasn't half bad.
* * *
I hope everyone here knows what a scam bottled water is on our individual & national budgets!
Offices pay tons of money for this, when tap water is probably higher quality & fresher, and doesn't cost as much in gas to ship around the country.
Expect Obama to outlaw bottled water!
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 7:19:34am |
re: #516 Iron Fist
,
With a name like Cockburn, I'd expect him to be a prick :-)
Who is he? I've never heard of him.
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realwest Wed, May 21, 2008 7:19:52am |
re: #512 maddogg Shit, I hope it's not those two xwargamer and alleslefails
that I already done invited out to play and they refused!
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David Simon Wed, May 21, 2008 7:20:06am |
Speaking of Carville, he was the featured speaker at a JUF dinner I attended years ago. Man, can he put away the free booze.
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paxnhymn Wed, May 21, 2008 7:20:06am |
re: #364 buzzsawmonkey
I had a similar experience the one time I saw him perform, at a theatre in Burlington, Vermont. The ventilation system in the theatre could not clear out the suffocating fog of self-congratulation emanating from Cockburn and the audience.
effing shame...guy was a helluva writer.
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 7:20:11am |
re: #518 alegrias
* * *
Why do dem Iowans vote for this guy? Iowa's republicans also fell for Huckabee.
I wish I knew. Does it have something to do with their early primary?
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redstateredneck Wed, May 21, 2008 7:20:25am |
re: #524 alegrias
I hope everyone here knows what a scam bottled water is on our individual & national budgets!
Abita's beer. Yes, strawberry beer.
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GeeWiz Wed, May 21, 2008 7:20:33am |
re: #494 paxnhymn
Beckle's a hack. He's riding the Obamania wave to what he hopes is a continued suckling from the Donkey teat. He probably has a pucker factor of about 9, as does Richardson and others, that if she rangels (snicker) the nomination away from hussein, she's gonna have a whole list of lives to ruin, and they know she'll do it!
If anyone has any doubt about how dangerous the Clinton machine can be see here:
Hillary
Do not cross the Clintons. I have the movie and it would make me cringe if was Bill R..
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realwest Wed, May 21, 2008 7:21:14am |
re: #522 lawhawk Why yes, yes you are and we hear at LGF are all the better for it!
Hope you're doing well today my friend!
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alegrias Wed, May 21, 2008 7:21:15am |
re: #498 snowcrash
James Carville reminds me of the Paul Begala quote, "politics is show business for ugly people." haha
* * *
McCain says that too, and he and his family are probably happiest when partying with Hollywood celebrities like Warren Beatty, who "defended" McCain's "conservative" credentials recently, or making cameo appearances in their movies.
Politics is where the real power's at!
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godfrey Wed, May 21, 2008 7:21:19am |
re: #531 ploome hineni
Ahhh... like a good steak, that linkfest is. Much obliged, ploome!
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 21, 2008 7:22:42am |
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 7:22:54am |
re: #516 Iron Fist
,
With a name like Cockburn, I'd expect him to be a prick :-)
Who is he? I've never heard of him.
The lyrics.
Uranium dust and the smell of decay
Sewage in the street where the kids run and play
Not enough morphine and not enough gauze
Firefight in darkness like snapping of jaws
SNIP
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redstateredneck Wed, May 21, 2008 7:23:19am |
re: #518 alegrias
* * *
Why do dem Iowans vote for this guy? Iowa's republicans also fell for Huckabee.
$78.5 million in labor and health and human services projects in Iowa, home of Labor/HHS Appropriations Subcommittee chairman Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, including $100,000 to encourage children to hold fairs displaying their inventions and $3 million for the Iowa Communications Network.
He brings home the bacon.
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realwest Wed, May 21, 2008 7:23:23am |
Well y'all it's been grand as usual, but I gotta hop - some chores to do and all that jazz!
Hope you ALL have a great day (cept for those effin registered lizards who never comment just ding down many of us and many of Charles' threads (like this one) and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!
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Occasional Reader Wed, May 21, 2008 7:23:29am |
re: #537 buzzsawmonkey
then writes lengthy free-form songs about the noble peasants and their liberation movements.
Does he ever visit the many spots where famines are CAUSED by the "liberation movements"?
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 7:23:36am |
re: #523 Occasional Reader
It was... performance art?
What was he thinking?
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 7:23:43am |
re: #426 realwest
Crap, that's a real shame - sounds like she was either old OSS or brand spanking new CIA but could have been any one of a bunch of other Intel agencies too. Would love to hear more about her though! (HINT!)!
It would have had to be OSS from what I know if it was either one.
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laZardo Wed, May 21, 2008 7:23:44am |
Sometimes I think the only difference between "country" and "folk" is that "country" is patriotic "folk."
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alegrias Wed, May 21, 2008 7:24:07am |
re: #514 redstateredneck
Scooter Libby
* * *
Thank you! Yes, a good man who now can't practice law nor work for anyone, because the media blamed him for leaking PFlame's name.
In fact it was McCain buddy Richard Armitage over at State Department under Colin Powell, who leaked PFlame's name & let the administration take the bad publicity for three years, without the guts to admit Armitage did it.
Shame on Armitage & Powell for undermining our country in time of war, giving ammo to opponents out to lose what our troops fight so hard to gain.
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godfrey Wed, May 21, 2008 7:24:52am |
re: #537 buzzsawmonkey
lengthy free-form songs about the noble peasants and their liberation movements
snooore
I'd rather hear accordion songs about pig sausages.
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, May 21, 2008 7:24:56am |
re: #524 alegrias
* * *
I hope everyone here knows what a scam bottled water is on our individual & national budgets!Offices pay tons of money for this, when tap water is probably higher quality & fresher, and doesn't cost as much in gas to ship around the country.
Expect Obama to outlaw bottled water!
I live near where Aquafina is bottled. I'd rather drink the tap water where I live, but the tap water is good anyway. However, I lived in another town where the water was sometimes green or greenish-yellow. There, we bought a lot of bottled water.
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opnion Wed, May 21, 2008 7:25:46am |
re: #459 laZardo
I gave Incubus' "Megalomaniac" a probationary spot on my playlist after I read a forum post saying it could actually be interpreted to be criticizing Bono, not Bush.
There ya go
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maddogg Wed, May 21, 2008 7:25:52am |
re: #527 realwest
Shit, I hope it's not those two xwargamer and alleslefails
that I already done invited out to play and they refused!
I believe we now have 6 each new trolls. With more in the woodwork, waiting to stick their antennae out.
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WriterMom Wed, May 21, 2008 7:25:58am |
OH SHIT.
I wanted to see who the dings were and accidentally dinged down. Sorry Charles. Paging a monitor lizard! GA. That was stupid!
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 7:26:06am |
re: #538 NJDhockeyfan
Obama's opening band...
Here's the opening to the Portland-based band The Decemberists performance at Messiah College in Grantham, Pa., south of Harrisburg, in March of 2007.The Soviet Union national anthem is used as their intro music.
I posted links to the YouTube of their anthem up above.
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laZardo Wed, May 21, 2008 7:26:12am |
re: #541 realwest
Later, West! If Babba comes back while I'm asleep or something, tell her I said hello. >_>
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Occasional Reader Wed, May 21, 2008 7:26:26am |
re: #551 buzzsawmonkey
was that he was (discreetly) Christian
Of the liberation theology/"Christian Peacemaker Teams" flavor, no doubt.
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, May 21, 2008 7:26:38am |
re: #538 NJDhockeyfan
Obama's opening band...
Here's the opening to the Portland-based band The Decemberists performance at Messiah College in Grantham, Pa., south of Harrisburg, in March of 2007.The Soviet Union national anthem is used as their intro music.
Still trying to find out if they opened the Obama show with the anthem. It would fit, though.
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redstateredneck Wed, May 21, 2008 7:26:44am |
re: #547 alegrias
Hopefully Bush will pardon him before leaving office, but I wouldn't count on it.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, May 21, 2008 7:26:44am |
re: #555 galloping granny
I posted links to the YouTube of their anthem up above.
Cool. I hope Charles makes a thread about it.
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alegrias Wed, May 21, 2008 7:26:54am |
re: #532 redstateredneck
Abita's beer. Yes, strawberry beer.
* * *
My bad! Ever try raspberry beer called Lambeck Framboise? That's interesting too.
Guiness floats--with vanilla icecream no less--are tasty, however weird sounding. Martha Stewart approves this message/recipe.
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Endangered in MASS Wed, May 21, 2008 7:27:07am |
re: #549 godfrey
pig sausages.
Tell me more about this "magical" animal the pig. I suppose you get bacon and ham from them too.
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laZardo Wed, May 21, 2008 7:27:13am |
re: #542 Occasional Reader
They've just started on the long road to recovery from oppression.
/how many must they walk down?
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redstateredneck Wed, May 21, 2008 7:27:28am |
re: #549 godfrey
snooore
I'd rather hear accordion songs about pig sausages.
At least you can dance to 'em.
:D
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 7:27:54am |
re: #560 NJDhockeyfan
Cool. I hope Charles makes a thread about it.
So do I.
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galloping granny Wed, May 21, 2008 7:28:08am |
re: #560 NJDhockeyfan
Cool. I hope Charles makes a thread about it.
Played through several of "their" pieces on Youtube. The words might be new, but the music was all old and very recognizable. Soviet revolutionary stuff.
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opnion Wed, May 21, 2008 7:28:19am |
re: #468 buzzsawmonkey
Especially if you use their own words.
It is pretty obvious that the left pundits etc. are trying to shield Obama from scrutiny & Inoculate him from crticism by just throwing out racism.
I really hope that , that kind of intimidation does not work.
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WriterMom Wed, May 21, 2008 7:28:24am |
re: #562 buzzsawmonkey
Ohhh, memories..that CPT person that I worked with is now living and working in Ramallah.
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alegrias Wed, May 21, 2008 7:28:55am |
re: #528 David Simon
Speaking of Carville, he was the featured speaker at a JUF dinner I attended years ago. Man, can he put away the free booze.
* * *
Carville & Matalin were at a McCain Xmas party years back in the DC area where McCain lives during the week.
Some of these inside the Beltway folks probably eat & drink at other's expense 7 days a week!
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godfrey Wed, May 21, 2008 7:30:25am |
re: #539 MandyManners
Ooh ooh, let me play!
Everything's broken in my leftozoid brain
but that doesn't stop me from showing you pain
that's all I can see, the American Gun
and cartoons of Bush who kills kids just for fun!
Etc.
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alegrias Wed, May 21, 2008 7:31:08am |
re: #538 NJDhockeyfan
Obama's opening band...
Here's the opening to the Portland-based band The Decemberists performance at Messiah College in Grantham, Pa., south of Harrisburg, in March of 2007.The Soviet Union national anthem is used as their intro music.
* * *
The Soviet Union national anthem is used as their intro music.
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incanus Wed, May 21, 2008 7:31:55am |
re: #291 galloping granny
Would you believe I do not know? There are some things I know about her life, but there is an entire decade completely missing. I know she was at Yalta. There are some things I have known about all of my life that I only learned as an adult were not public knowledge. And when she came to visit me in Germany we were leaving the airport and she looks around, says "Why I haven't been here since. . " and slapped both hands over her face. Flatly refused to say another word, no matter how I begged. In her later years she had brain surgery several times - always with the Men In Black in the same room in case she said something she shouldn't have. (I don't know if they were Secret Service or FBI or CIA.)
WOW! Sounds like a good book or movie! Too bad your mom doesn't work for the New York Times so we could hear all about it.
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David Simon Wed, May 21, 2008 7:31:59am |
re: #572 alegrias
* * *
Carville & Matalin were at a McCain Xmas party years back in the DC area where McCain lives during the week.Some of these inside the Beltway folks probably eat & drink at other's expense 7 days a week!
What's so amazing is that, when he spoke, you couldn't detect the amount of liquor that he had imbibed.
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, May 21, 2008 7:32:08am |
With all this about radical folk singers, here's Tom Lehrer's
The Folk Song Army (Parody)
"We all hate poverty, war and injustice,
unlike the rest of you squares"
"To the fight against poverty, war, and injustice,
Ready, aim, sing!"
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godfrey Wed, May 21, 2008 7:32:54am |
re: #562 buzzsawmonkey
I know those types. It's as if they have a third of their brain permanently switched "off."
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, May 21, 2008 7:33:04am |
re: #566 laZardo
They've just started on the long road to recovery from oppression.
/how many must they walk down?
The answer is blowin' in the wind.
/couldn't resist
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 7:33:17am |
re: #573 godfrey
The lyrics from the song are breath-takingly juvenile and simplisitic.
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godfrey Wed, May 21, 2008 7:34:15am |
re: #576 alegrias
Last week, I met a guy who spent ten years in a Siberian gulag for being an "enemy of the people."
Anyone who plays the Soviet anthem within my earshot gets a face full of pure outrage.
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alegrias Wed, May 21, 2008 7:34:56am |
re: #576 alegrias
* * *
The Soviet Union national anthem is used as their intro music.
* * *
Another marxist retread idea from the trashbin of history that democrats think is just swell for the USA...
What next, Olga Korbut for US Ministry of Physical Fitness?
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jorline Wed, May 21, 2008 7:35:13am |
re: #527 realwest
Shit, I hope it's not those two xwargamer and alleslefails
that I already done invited out to play and they refused!
I noticed them as well...one of Charles' post has six or seven negative dings.
I guess they want to play in the shadows and wait for a thread like yesterdays Kennedy post to spew their crap.
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, May 21, 2008 7:35:29am |
re: #585 godfrey
Last week, I met a guy who spent ten years in a Siberian gulag for being an "enemy of the people."
Anyone who plays the Soviet anthem within my earshot gets a face full of pure outrage.
Imagine if Obama is elected, and the Decemberists play at his inauguration?
And play the Soviet anthem?
NOOO!
Get everyone you know to vote for McCain!
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WriterMom Wed, May 21, 2008 7:35:34am |
re: #585 godfrey
Have you ever read Fear No Evil by Natan Sharansky? Same idea. One of my favourite books evah. He talks about how he kept himself sane and the tactics that the Soviets used to try to destroy him spiritually before physically.
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Broomer Wed, May 21, 2008 7:35:41am |
No more Dunkin's Donuts for me:
[Link: jammiewearingfool.blogspot.com...]
I already fired a strongly worded comment to them.
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WriterMom Wed, May 21, 2008 7:36:24am |
re: #587 jorline
Mine is there TOTALLY by accident. I hope it gets taken out. Spaz that I am.
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alegrias Wed, May 21, 2008 7:36:28am |
re: #586 alegrias
* * *
Another marxist retread idea from the trashbin of history that democrats think is just swell for the USA...What next, Olga Korbut for US Ministry of Physical Fitness?
(Because the 1972 Munich Olympics were so NevilleChamberesque, with respect to Palestinian bad guys owning the event without preconditions)
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Honorary Yooper Wed, May 21, 2008 7:36:43am |
re: #553 maddogg
I believe we now have 6 each new trolls. With more in the woodwork, waiting to stick their antennae out.
Do we need a can of Raid for them?
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vxbush Wed, May 21, 2008 7:37:15am |
re: #590 Broomer
No more Dunkin's Donuts for me:
[Link: jammiewearingfool.blogspot.com...]
I already fired a strongly worded comment to them.
Hmm. No Starbucks, because they are disgustingly overpriced; no Dunkin' Donuts. Who's left?
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 7:37:28am |
re: #591 WriterMom
Mine is there TOTALLY by accident. I hope it gets taken out. Spaz that I am.
The - + buttons are close together.
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 7:37:56am |
re: #594 Honorary Yooper
Do we need a can of Raid for them?
Nah. Just really big boots.
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paxnhymn Wed, May 21, 2008 7:38:33am |
re: #535 alegrias
* * *
McCain says that too, and he and his family are probably happiest when partying with Hollywood celebrities like Warren Beatty, who "defended" McCain's "conservative" credentials recently, or making cameo appearances in their movies.Politics is where the real power's at!
Yep...'member Leaky Leahy's cameo in Batman II? Birds of a feather...
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godfrey Wed, May 21, 2008 7:38:34am |
re: #589 WriterMom
I'll put it on my list. I also met people a little older than I who were pressured for years to join the Party or KGB. Good news: their kids think the Soviet repression was "totally unfair," because they see how much better off the Western kids are. They're punk against the CCCP. Authentically rebellious. I love those kids.
Ploome
Obama's surrounding himself with the Brookings crew. Bleh.
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laZardo Wed, May 21, 2008 7:39:26am |
re: #581 Kosh's Shadow
You can't get a better parody than from the originals themselves.
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jorline Wed, May 21, 2008 7:39:56am |
re: #591 WriterMom
Mine is there TOTALLY by accident. I hope it gets taken out. Spaz that I am.
LOL...I know you're a positive poster here'''perhaps a brain fart?
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bosforus Wed, May 21, 2008 7:40:05am |
Just when you though the UN couldn't get any more useless.
UN sends a quarter of a million condoms to Burna.
[Link: www.iol.co.za...]
Bangkok - The United Nations will send nearly a quarter of a million condoms into cyclone-hit Myanmar to help needy survivors with no access to contraceptives, a UN official said Tuesday.
So far the UN Population Fund (UNFPA) says it has sent 72 800 condoms to survivors struggling to maintain their family planning after the storm hit in early May.
Let's get some UN guys into Burma to check out the looks on their faces when they rip open a relief box and find condoms.
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alegrias Wed, May 21, 2008 7:40:21am |
re: #585 godfrey
Last week, I met a guy who spent ten years in a Siberian gulag for being an "enemy of the people."
Anyone who plays the Soviet anthem within my earshot gets a face full of pure outrage.
* * *
Our "progressives" ignore the experience of billions of people living in such gulags.
Myanmar's junta REFUSED US AID in today's news--let their own people perish--that's 10 times worse than Hurricane Katrina's aftermath.
Name any 'progressives' holding juntas & maoists & fidels to account for crimes against their own people.
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WriterMom Wed, May 21, 2008 7:40:33am |
re: #596 MandyManners
My brain was telling me-check the number digit to see who did a ding down. Then my stupid fingers pressed the minus.
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maddogg Wed, May 21, 2008 7:40:56am |
re: #594 Honorary Yooper
Do we need a can of Raid for them?
Have you seen my canines? I like the personal touch:)
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sparrowlake Wed, May 21, 2008 7:41:06am |
re: #474 Clio
News flash just posted on the excellent website Augean Stables:
A French Court of Appeals has thrown out France2 Television's claim of libel against Philippe Karsenty.
That is: The court ruled that Karsenty WAS RIGHT in claiming that the report that Israeli soldiers killed the Arab boy Muhammad al-Dura was a France 2 HOAX.
Watch how fast this one gets muzzled, defanged, put down and buried by MSM.
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WriterMom Wed, May 21, 2008 7:41:21am |
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Wed, May 21, 2008 7:41:47am |
The Decembrist revolt or the Decembrist uprising (Russian: %u0412%u043E%u0441%u0441%u0442á%u043D%u0438 %u0435 %u0434%u0435%u043Aá%u0431%u0440%u0438%u0441 %u0442%u043E%u0432) took place in Imperial Russia on December 14 (December 26 New Style), 1825. Russian army officers led about 3,000 soldiers in a protest against Nicholas I's assumption of the throne after his elder brother Constantine removed himself from the line of succession. Because these events occurred in December, the rebels were called the Decembrists (Dekabristy, Russian: %u0414%u0435%u043Aá%u0431%u0440%u0438%u0441 %u0442%u044B). This uprising took place in the Senate Square in Saint Petersburg. In 1925, to mark the centenary of the event, it was renamed as Decembrist Square (Ploshchad' Dekabristov, Russian: %u041F%u043Bó%u0449%u0430%u0434%u044C %u0414%u0435%u043Aá%u0431%u0440%u0438%u0441 %u0442%u043E%u0432). The revolt was personally suppressed by Nicholas I of Russia.
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godfrey Wed, May 21, 2008 7:42:49am |
re: #601 ploome hineni
lol
There's a McDonald's in Ukraine. It's one of the few places in a certain city that opens on time, serves consistent food, and trains its workers to higher standards. They are very proud that their city has one, since it shows they can offer product and service at a Western standard.
To them, it's a big step up from the Standardized Offal dished out by the Soviets.
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Kenneth Wed, May 21, 2008 7:43:08am |
re: #595 vxbush
Tim Horton's, they support the troops!
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opnion Wed, May 21, 2008 7:43:29am |
re: #593 taxfreekiller
Keep up the faxes, but inside Cornyn's office a contact says he thinks the "Ag. amnesty" has been revoved over night due to the fire storm,
and McCain not wanting it done now, he wants to do it himself when
he gets elected,"ass wipes
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lawhawk Wed, May 21, 2008 7:44:14am |
re: #534 realwest
Yes, doing well, though shaken just a wee bit by the death of a guy living in the apartment building next door. Police aren't sure if foul play is involved or not. Very sad in any event.
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Endangered in MASS Wed, May 21, 2008 7:44:24am |
re: #585 godfrey
My post from upthread..
"The bad old days. I did two tours in Germany in the 80's ( 2nd AD and 1st AD) and replicated Russian tactics at the NTC at Ft Irwin as part of the 32nd Guards Motorized Rifle Regiment (OPFOR). I have been through Check Point Charlie and spent time East Berlin when it was the DDR.
I de- fucking - test commies."
I met an East German who had escaped to the west...His comments during the Pershing II brouha..If they needed someplace to put them they can put them in my yard.
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Kenneth Wed, May 21, 2008 7:44:56am |
re: #606 WriterMom
A couple weeks ago I accidentally dinged down Buzz! I love his lyrics and Imeant to ding it up. He was offended, but many mia-culpa's later, I think he forgave me. I still owe him a beer, any time he comes to Toronto.
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jorline Wed, May 21, 2008 7:45:01am |
re: #609 WriterMom
Women? Fart?
What is this thing you speak of?
:P
LOL...who was it that women would say...excuse meee, I made a smelly.
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godfrey Wed, May 21, 2008 7:46:06am |
re: #605 alegrias
In a similar vein, last night I went for drinks at this guy's house -- he had a poster in his kitchen that said: "Illegal Iraq War: Keep Our Troops Safe, and Bring them Home Soon!"
Translated: "Put our troops in harm's way, don't let them fight hard, and then retreat as quickly as possible. Oh, and let the bad guys slaughter the good guys over there. We don't care."
Ethical, these types.
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Honorary Yooper Wed, May 21, 2008 7:46:31am |
re: #597 MandyManners
Nah. Just really big boots.
Heh. There's always the Stinky B. brand of troll motels:
They check in through the door, but they get kicked out through the window.
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Miss Trixie Wed, May 21, 2008 7:46:47am |
♪ ♬ Good morning, {lizards}! ♬ ♪
Totally swamped at work with no time to post and when I get home, I'm too tired to do anything.
Simmering down a bit now.
What snoo?
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WriterMom Wed, May 21, 2008 7:46:49am |
re: #617 Kenneth
Kenneth, that's funny. I seriously have a problem with my fingers getting ahead of my brain sometimes. I talk a mile a minute but I type almost as fast. Sometimes it's just OUTA CONTROL.
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David Simon Wed, May 21, 2008 7:46:51am |
re: #605 alegrias
Myanmar's junta REFUSED US AID in today's news--let their own people perish--that's 10 times worse than Hurricane Katrina's aftermath.
And in the socialist utopia of Europe, tens of thousands died from a simple heat wave in 2003. And they had the nerve to wag their fingers at us after Katrina.
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WriterMom Wed, May 21, 2008 7:47:56am |
This morning, I had this flash of Gordon. It was very weird...
Get used to it lizards-President Obama.
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alegrias Wed, May 21, 2008 7:48:07am |
re: #588 Kosh's Shadow
Imagine if Obama is elected, and the Decemberists play at his inauguration?
And play the Soviet anthem?
NOOO!Get everyone you know to vote for McCain!
* * *
Talk about OLD music, USSR military marching musik!
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godfrey Wed, May 21, 2008 7:48:13am |
re: #615 Endangered in MASS
Props. I met a former DDR kid back in '90. He and his family were allowed out two years before the wall came down. His stories were the same: in the DDR, you never knew who was compromised. So no one, not even your brother or sister, could be trusted.
Sick.
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sparrowlake Wed, May 21, 2008 7:49:31am |
re: #611 godfrey
lol
There's a McDonald's in Ukraine. It's one of the few places in a certain city that opens on time, serves consistent food, and trains its workers to higher standards. They are very proud that their city has one, since it shows they can offer product and service at a Western standard.
To them, it's a big step up from the Standardized Offal dished out by the Soviets.
ROFL. Russian fine dining.
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jorline Wed, May 21, 2008 7:49:46am |
re: #618 jorline
LOL...who was it that women would say...excuse meee, I made a smelly.
Hell...what's my problem today...I did more coffee.
LOL...who was it that said that women while farting would say...excuse meee, I made a smelly.
Crap...I need to go back to bed.
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kansas Wed, May 21, 2008 7:50:46am |
We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK.
Barack Hussein Obama on asking other countries what we should do.
Why is anyone voting for this idiot?
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Occasional Reader Wed, May 21, 2008 7:50:48am |
re: #616 Peacekeeper
gah.
Is that a Chesterton quote?
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Alouette Wed, May 21, 2008 7:50:58am |
re: #331 realwest
Hey there {Grammy}! Oh, No - you've started a blog, TOO?! Egads, Mandy's starting one too (one of these days) and BZ and lawhawk and zombie and Jammie all already have theirs, who the heck is gonna be left to chat with?
LOL! Great, funny first time out of the gates though Grammy, I must say! Loved Kerry's answer to why did the chicken cross the road!
I don't have a blog, I have an online store, one-stop Zionist shopping. Why blog when you can make money? Heh.
/crafty money-grubbing Zionist
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jorline Wed, May 21, 2008 7:51:31am |
re: #627 WriterMom
This morning, I had this flash of Gordon. It was very weird...
Get used to it lizards-President Obama.
Now I know I'm going back to bed...for the next four years!
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Occasional Reader Wed, May 21, 2008 7:51:47am |
re: #629 godfrey
you never knew who was compromised
Uh, excuse me, those were community organizers, you non-progressive pig.
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laZardo Wed, May 21, 2008 7:52:23am |
re: #605 alegrias
* * *
Our "progressives" ignore the experience of billions of people living in such gulags.Myanmar's junta REFUSED US AID in today's news--let their own people perish--that's 10 times worse than Hurricane Katrina's aftermath.
Sssshhh! We can't let the Americans know that!
/MSM
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WriterMom Wed, May 21, 2008 7:52:30am |
re: #624 David Simon
Ah yes, Fwance, where people iced their grammies so as not to cancel out their Aout vacation.
As horrendous as it is, people are just going to have to either accept that many more innocents are going to die in Burma as a result of the junta's sole interest in self-preservation, pray for them and/or just drop the gadddanged aid into their borders and hope for the best.
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Occasional Reader Wed, May 21, 2008 7:52:38am |
re: #632 kansas
Barack Hussein Obama on asking other countries what we should do.
Which he defined as "leadership". Really.
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mixa Wed, May 21, 2008 7:52:51am |
Good news
The French Court of Appeals has overturned the libel judgment against Phillipe Karsenty and has determined that Karsenty did not libel France 2 correspondent Charles Enderlin when he reported that the 'death' of 12-year old Mohamed Al-Dura at Netzarim in the Gaza Strip in September 2000 may have been staged, and that it was unlikely that the death was caused by IDF soldiers.
[Link: israelmatzav.blogspot.com...]
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godfrey Wed, May 21, 2008 7:53:17am |
re: #630 sparrowlake
In East Berlin, the finest dining establishment for Party Members was an open-air cafe' type place that bordered a long reflecting pool. In the pool swam thousands of distended carp, like white, scaly cadavers, rolling over themselves in the murky water. Apparently, the good time was to take your date there and throw biscuits to them, to watch them fight and roil.
Disgusting.
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, May 21, 2008 7:53:22am |
re: #615 Endangered in MASS
Well, then, from the movie Top Secret, here is
The East German National Anthem
Hail, hail East Germany / Land of fruit and grape / Land where you'll regret / If you try to escape / No matter if you tunnel under or take a running jump at the wall / Forget it, the guards will kill you, if the electrified fence doesn't first.
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Endangered in MASS Wed, May 21, 2008 7:53:30am |
re: #629 godfrey
It's amazing how easily the Soviet sector transformed from one totalitarian police state to another.
Could Jonah Goldberg be correct... Communism and Nazism are birds of a feather not polar opposites?
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Occasional Reader Wed, May 21, 2008 7:53:41am |
USSR military marching musik!
[sigh] Okay, Peacekeeper, go ahead.
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 7:54:20am |
re: #621 Honorary Yooper
Heh. There's always the Stinky B. brand of troll motels:
They check in through the door, but they get kicked out through the window.
Stink's a defenestrator.
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yochanan Wed, May 21, 2008 7:54:29am |
re: #477 redstateredneck
Speaking of attack dogs, where the hell has James Carville been?
i bet the SNAKE IS UNDER A ROCK
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Intrepid Wed, May 21, 2008 7:55:06am |
Mornin'! Great article by Michelle Malkin about Barack Obama's many gaffes in NRO late last night...
[Link: article.nationalreview.com...]
Obama is approaching Dan Quayle level now, and his "miss spokes" are much more serious than a simple miss spelling of 'tater.
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godfrey Wed, May 21, 2008 7:55:51am |
re: #637 Occasional Reader
Five-star Godfrey Movie Recommendation: "Mrs Ratcliffe's Revolution" produced by Leslee Udwin. About an addled but sincere British socialist who renounces his citizenship and takes his family to the DDR paradise. Problems ensue. Extremely funny and well-done.
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, May 21, 2008 7:56:02am |
re: #649 Intrepid
Mornin'! Great article by Michelle Malkin about Barack Obama's many gaffes in NRO late last night...
[Link: article.nationalreview.com...]
Obama is approaching Dan Quayle level now, and his "miss spokes" are much more serious than a simple miss spelling of 'tater.
I guess his creators didn't properly program him. He'll have to go back to Manchuria for debugging.
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Occasional Reader Wed, May 21, 2008 7:56:21am |
re: #604 bosforus
Let's get some UN guys into Burma to check out the looks on their faces when they rip open a relief box and find condoms.
Reminds me of the "parachuted berets" scene in A Bridge Too Far.
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David Simon Wed, May 21, 2008 7:56:30am |
re: #639 WriterMom
As horrendous as it is, people are just going to have to either accept that many more innocents are going to die in Burma as a result of the junta's sole interest in self-preservation, pray for them and/or just drop the gadddanged aid into their borders and hope for the best.
Yep. Just like when we tried to provide humanitarian aid to North Korea, and li'l Kim used it to take care of his soldiers. There's not much we can do to help those poor people.
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Intrepid Wed, May 21, 2008 7:56:32am |
re: #649 Intrepid
Ooops - sorry. Just noticed that article is already on the spin-off links.
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redstateredneck Wed, May 21, 2008 7:56:54am |
re: #622 Miss Trixie
{Miss Trixie}!
Girl, I haven't seen you in forever.
:D
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godfrey Wed, May 21, 2008 7:57:00am |
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Occasional Reader Wed, May 21, 2008 7:57:18am |
re: #650 godfrey
Five-star Godfrey Movie Recommendation: "Mrs Ratcliffe's Revolution" produced by Leslee Udwin. About an addled but sincere British socialist who renounces his citizenship and takes his family to the DDR paradise. Problems ensue. Extremely funny and well-done.
I will check it out.
It goes without saying you've seen The Lives of Others?
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Endangered in MASS Wed, May 21, 2008 7:57:59am |
re: #643 Kosh's Shadow
Makes me want to goose step in fromt of the heros of the great patriotic war memorial...
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Intrepid Wed, May 21, 2008 7:58:18am |
How many moby-folk were smoked out in the Kennedy thread from yesterday? Anybody know?
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Kenneth Wed, May 21, 2008 7:58:25am |
re: #632 kansas
It's good for you whether you like it or not! Now shut up and eat your bitter arugula.
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GeeWiz Wed, May 21, 2008 7:59:27am |
OKay, time to give this thread some life. Picture BHO calling HRC and offering her the VP slot...incoming call
Jus' trying to keep the ELO thingy goin'.
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incanus Wed, May 21, 2008 7:59:34am |
re: #652 Occasional Reader
Reminds me of the "parachuted berets" scene in A Bridge Too Far.
My favourite scene in that movie is when the transports fly over the church.
My grandmother would get very nervous if more than three propeller planes flew over at the same time. She lived in Coventry when it was firebombed by the Germans.
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JammieWearingFool Wed, May 21, 2008 8:00:45am |
re: #331 realwest
Hey there {Grammy}! Oh, No - you've started a blog, TOO?! Egads, Mandy's starting one too (one of these days) and BZ and lawhawk and zombie and Jammie all already have theirs, who the heck is gonna be left to chat with?
LOL! Great, funny first time out of the gates though Grammy, I must say! Loved Kerry's answer to why did the chicken cross the road!
Hey, I'm still around on occasion to chat, but I have a new employee this week and have to spend much of my in-office time with her. Plus since I haev a four-day weekend forthcoming, things are very busy.
How're things with you?
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tripster Wed, May 21, 2008 8:00:53am |
re: #638 laZardo
Sssshhh! We can't let the Americans know that!
/MSM
Not in less, of course, we can blame Bush for it.
/msm
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Occasional Reader Wed, May 21, 2008 8:01:39am |
re: #643 Kosh's Shadow
That's almost as good as the Kazakhstan National Anthem!
Kazakhstan greatest country in the world.
All other countries are run by little girls.
Kazakhstan number one exporter of potassium.
Other countries have inferior potassium.Kazakhstan home of Tinshein swimming pool.
It’s length thirty meter and width six meter.
Filtration system a marvel to behold.
It remove 80 percent of human solid waste.Kazakhstan, Kazakhstan you very nice place.
From Plains of Tarashek to Norther fence of Jewtown.
Kazakhstan friend of all except Uzbekistan.
They very nosey people with bone in their brain.Kazakhstan industry best in the world.
We invented toffee and trouser belt.
Kazakhstan’s prostitutes cleanest in the region.
Except of course Turkmenistan’sKazakhstan, Kazakhstan you very nice place.
From Plains of Tarashek to Norther fence of Jewtown.
Come grasp the might penis of our leader.
From junction with the testes to tip of its face
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opnion Wed, May 21, 2008 8:01:56am |
re: #649 Intrepid
Mornin'! Great article by Michelle Malkin about Barack Obama's many gaffes in NRO late last night...
[Link: article.nationalreview.com...]
Obama is approaching Dan Quayle level now, and his "miss spokes" are much more serious than a simple miss spelling of 'tater.
Could this guy be a product of Affirmative Action run amok?
He did edit Harvard Law Review. You assume that he cannot be an idiot.
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David Simon Wed, May 21, 2008 8:01:59am |
Some common sense about taxation and economic growth:
"Raising taxes encourages taxpayers to shift, hide and underreport income. . . . Higher taxes reduce the incentives to work, produce, invest and save, thereby dampening overall economic activity and job creation."
Putting it a different way, capital migrates away from regimes in which it is treated harshly, and toward regimes in which it is free to be invested profitably and safely. In this regard, the capital controlled by our richest citizens is especially tax-intolerant.
[Link: online.wsj.com...]
But don't expect any of our populist politicians to quote it.
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yochanan Wed, May 21, 2008 8:02:28am |
There was a black panther radical that went into exile into africa and after living there for some time came back to America and became very pro America, can't remember which one.
anyone remember this?
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Honorary Yooper Wed, May 21, 2008 8:02:57am |
re: #659 Intrepid
How many moby-folk were smoked out in the Kennedy thread from yesterday? Anybody know?
No idea, but I hope everyone behaved themselves, I wish this form of cancer on no-one.
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redstateredneck Wed, May 21, 2008 8:03:18am |
"Unlike most politicians, Barack Obama does not waffle. He comes out boldly, saying mutually contradictory things."
~ Thomas Sowell
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cartoonboy Wed, May 21, 2008 8:03:52am |
If I farted while watching Obama on tv would that be racist?
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 8:04:10am |
re: #670 yochanan
There was a black panther radical that went into exile into africa and after living there for some time came back to America and became very pro America, can't remember which one.
anyone remember this?
I'd love to read about that.
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Occasional Reader Wed, May 21, 2008 8:04:12am |
re: #663 incanus
My favourite scene in that movie is when the transports fly over the church.
Mine is when the German soldier bearing a white flag appears on the bridge to "discuss the terms of surrender", and Anthony Hopkins and his adjutant say, "we're terribly sorry, but we haven't the facilities for you."
Also, the wounded British soldiers near the end singing "Abide With Me" as the Germans are coming to take them prisoner; very moving.
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sparrowlake Wed, May 21, 2008 8:04:20am |
re: #642 godfrey
In East Berlin, the finest dining establishment for Party Members was an open-air cafe' type place that bordered a long reflecting pool. In the pool swam thousands of distended carp, like white, scaly cadavers, rolling over themselves in the murky water. Apparently, the good time was to take your date there and throw biscuits to them, to watch them fight and roil.
Disgusting.
How romantic.
I'll stick with the filet of fish combo - supersized.
LOL.
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lawhawk Wed, May 21, 2008 8:04:28am |
re: #672 Honorary Yooper
There were far too many mobys for my taste... a Snafu of Mobys.
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MandyManners Wed, May 21, 2008 8:04:41am |
re: #674 cartoonboy
If I farted while watching Obama on tv would that be racist?
Only if you do it in his general direction.
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opnion Wed, May 21, 2008 8:05:40am |
re: #674 cartoonboy
If I farted while watching Obama on tv would that be racist?
There will be a knock on your door and you will be sent for reducation
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Honorary Yooper Wed, May 21, 2008 8:05:43am |
re: #679 lawhawk
There were far too many mobys for my taste... a Snafu of Mobys.
Anyone we know get the stick?
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rawmuse Wed, May 21, 2008 8:06:00am |
re: #441 opnion
The thing about Bono is, he is always over here trying to put us on a guilt trip. More cash for Africa, more cash for this, more cash for that.
Worthy causes, but Bono is Irish. How about a shake down on the European Union?
BONO, you mean that worthless, self-righteous little prick who wore an American flag sewn in to his jacket armpit, then revealed it during Super Bowl, where he sniffed it?
Deal breaker for me.
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cartoonboy Wed, May 21, 2008 8:06:33am |
re: #682 opnion
There will be a knock on your door and you will be sent for reducation
I heard a knock.
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alegrias Wed, May 21, 2008 8:07:05am |
re: #611 godfrey
lol
There's a McDonald's in Ukraine. It's one of the few places in a certain city that opens on time, serves consistent food, and trains its workers to higher standards. They are very proud that their city has one, since it shows they can offer product and service at a Western standard.
To them, it's a big step up from the Standardized Offal dished out by the Soviets.
* * *
Soviet Borscht is not offal!
Borscht with arugula will be progressive "good food" choice number one at People's Food Stores USA-SSR!
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Endangered in MASS Wed, May 21, 2008 8:07:52am |
re: #657 Occasional Reader
I was checking out the trailer on you tube...from the comments
"Awarded Best Film 2007 because the stupid Academy thought it was anti-communist (it wasn't) and that El Laberinto del Fauno (actual best) was pro-communist (it was). Police hero struggles between commitment to defend the Stalinist DDR against the neo-fascist BRD and his human desire to protect artists from the corrupt Stasi secret police. Message of hope: even in the hearts of tyranny's most faithful professionals a spark of humanity resides which can grow into a beacon of universal brotherhood. "
And this...
"This movie is so relavant for our time period because this is once again happening. Check out what targeted Individuals are saying about being followed around and spied on, or check out the term Gang Stalking.
This is happening to citizens of countries like Canada, UK, US, etc"
ya right.
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Intrepid Wed, May 21, 2008 8:08:02am |
re: #668 opnion
Could this guy be a product of Affirmative Action run amok?
He did edit Harvard Law Review. You assume that he cannot be an idiot.
Nah - sure he can be an idiot. He must be - he really doesn't study in any depth the subjects of the bills he votes on (the nuclear storage facility in Washington State) and he shows astonishing ignorance on the languages spoken in Afghanistan, a country we've been fighting in for over seven years!
I'm looking forward to the McCain v Obama debates. He's awful when he's unscripted.
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nyc redneck Wed, May 21, 2008 8:09:12am |
re: #639 WriterMom
Ah yes, Fwance, where people iced their grammies so as not to cancel out their Aout vacation.
As horrendous as it is, people are just going to have to either accept that many more innocents are going to die in Burma as a result of the junta's sole interest in self-preservation, pray for them and/or just drop the gadddanged aid into their borders and hope for the best.
you know, it is absolutely the right thing to do. just drop the aid and to hell w/ what these thugs think. people ate starving and dying of thirst and we have to respect evil dictators. fck protocol.
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vxbush Wed, May 21, 2008 8:09:32am |
re: #689 Intrepid
Nah - sure he can be an idiot. He must be - he really doesn't study in any depth the subjects of the bills he votes on (the nuclear storage facility in Washington State) and he shows astonishing ignorance on the languages spoken in Afghanistan, a country we've been fighting in for over seven years!
I'm looking forward to the McCain v Obama debates. He's awful when he's unscripted.
Yes, but you know supporters are going to say it was just because he was tired from all the campaigning. You just know it.
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bosforus Wed, May 21, 2008 8:09:34am |
re: #671 WriterMom
Here's a good one:
In Iran they spend 1/100th of what we spend on the military.
Make that 1/2 come January if a democrat wins.
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alegrias Wed, May 21, 2008 8:09:50am |
re: #620 godfrey
In a similar vein, last night I went for drinks at this guy's house -- he had a poster in his kitchen that said: "Illegal Iraq War: Keep Our Troops Safe, and Bring them Home Soon!"
Translated: "Put our troops in harm's way, don't let them fight hard, and then retreat as quickly as possible. Oh, and let the bad guys slaughter the good guys over there. We don't care."
Ethical, these types.
* * *
Progressives for the Unethical Mistreatment of Humans.
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opnion Wed, May 21, 2008 8:10:13am |
re: #684 rawmuse
BONO, you mean that worthless, self-righteous little prick who wore an American flag sewn in to his jacket armpit, then revealed it during Super Bowl, where he sniffed it?
Deal breaker for me.
The very same cretin
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Spiny Norman Wed, May 21, 2008 8:10:28am |
re: #605 alegrias
Our "progressives" ignore the experience of billions of people living in such gulags.Myanmar's junta REFUSED US AID in today's news--let their own people perish--that's 10 times worse than Hurricane Katrina's aftermath.
Name any 'progressives' holding juntas & maoists & fidels to account for crimes against their own people.
But you see, to make an omelette, it may be necessary to break a few eggs.
/duranty
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laZardo Wed, May 21, 2008 8:10:41am |
re: #666 tripster
Well, Bush does support viciously militaristic anti-democracy dictatorships as his predecessors (and ancestors) had...
/
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Occasional Reader Wed, May 21, 2008 8:11:58am |
re: #688 Endangered in MASS
Awarded Best Film 2007 because the stupid Academy thought it was anti-communist (it wasn't) and that El Laberinto del Fauno (actual best) was pro-communist (it was)
The correct answers, of course, are "was" and "was", respectively.
"Police hero struggles between commitment to defend the Stalinist DDR against the neo-fascist BRD"
Neo-fascist West Germany... a constant menace to East Germany... oh. my. God. I suppose that commenter also really believes that the Berlin Wall was constructed merely as a defense against Western infilitrators.
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Spiny Norman Wed, May 21, 2008 8:12:12am |
re: #674 cartoonboy
If I farted while watching Obama on tv would that be racist?
Very much so. To sensitivity training the re-education camp with you!
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GeeWiz Wed, May 21, 2008 8:12:26am |
re: #671 WriterMom
The most revelant quote,
The real problem is a book with a name like “Terrorism for Dummies” would have to become bedside reading at the White House.
.
That's gonna leave a mark.
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paxnhymn Wed, May 21, 2008 8:13:07am |
re: #670 yochanan
There was a black panther radical that went into exile into africa and after living there for some time came back to America and became very pro America, can't remember which one.
anyone remember this?
vaguely, but that's no surprise. Hell even a monkey doesn't throw feces at his own section of the cage...it's always at the other monkeys or the tourists! He may still be a Rev. Wright type of patriot, if you know what I mean...
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opnion Wed, May 21, 2008 8:13:29am |
re: #689 Intrepid
Nah - sure he can be an idiot. He must be - he really doesn't study in any depth the subjects of the bills he votes on (the nuclear storage facility in Washington State) and he shows astonishing ignorance on the languages spoken in Afghanistan, a country we've been fighting in for over seven years!
I'm looking forward to the McCain v Obama debates. He's awful when he's unscripted.
McCain can be a nasty little pecker.
I look for him to say something like, "Thank you for the question. Before I answer, I would like to correct the disinformation just dispensed by Senator Obama.
Barry would freak
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alegrias Wed, May 21, 2008 8:14:07am |
re: #632 kansas
We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK.
Barack Hussein Obama on asking other countries what we should do.
Why is anyone voting for this idiot?
* * *
Since almost no-one leaves this country willingly, and folks are dying to get here, seems we've sur-passed the GLOBAL test progressives keep saying we're failing!
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Spiny Norman Wed, May 21, 2008 8:14:15am |
re: #697 Occasional Reader
Neo-fascist West Germany... a constant menace to East Germany... oh. my. God. I suppose that commenter also really believes that the Berlin Wall was constructed merely as a defense against Western infilitrators.
Probably, since lots of (left-leaning) people actually did at the time.
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docremulac Wed, May 21, 2008 8:15:00am |
Witch burning's made a big comeback in Africa.
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, May 21, 2008 8:15:21am |
re: #667 Occasional Reader
Which reminds me, I hear Michael Moore's new movie will involve him filming the UN racism inspector, Dou-Dou, as he looks for racism in the US.
It will be called
"Racist Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Overlords of the UN"
/not really, but it could happen
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Kenneth Wed, May 21, 2008 8:15:39am |
re: #703 Spiny Norman
In the East Bloc, the Berlin wall was officially called "The Great Anti-Fascist Barrier". Seriously.
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sparrowlake Wed, May 21, 2008 8:15:59am |
re: #696 laZardo
Well, Bush does support viciously militaristic anti-democracy dictatorships as his predecessors (and ancestors) had...
/
Only if they have lots of the Texas tea.
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Spiny Norman Wed, May 21, 2008 8:16:30am |
re: #689 Intrepid
Nah - sure he can be an idiot. He must be - he really doesn't study in any depth the subjects of the bills he votes on (the nuclear storage facility in Washington State) and he shows astonishing ignorance on the languages spoken in Afghanistan, a country we've been fighting in for over seven years!
I'm looking forward to the McCain v Obama debates. He's awful when he's unscripted.
Careful... you're assuming that the MSM-sponsored and MSM-moderated debates will be unscripted.
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tripster Wed, May 21, 2008 8:16:39am |
re: #683 Honorary Yooper
Anyone we know get the stick?
I count 3 who got the stick. 2 were new, 1 had 724 posts (squirrelguy)
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Miss Trixie Wed, May 21, 2008 8:17:34am |
re: #655 redstateredneck
{Miss Trixie}!
Girl, I haven't seen you in forever.
:D
Hello, toots! I've been extraordinarily bizzaaay of late and haven't had much lizard time to spare.
How are you folks down south? And the pack?
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redstateredneck Wed, May 21, 2008 8:18:17am |
re: #710 Miss Trixie
We're all good. Baby daughter graduates from high school tomorrow night. Busy times!
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sparrowlake Wed, May 21, 2008 8:18:42am |
re: #704 docremulac
Witch burning's made a big comeback in Africa.
People must not take the law into their own hands simply because they suspected someone," said Mwangi Ngunyi, the head of Nyamaiya district.
LOL. Yeah, they really should have a trial before they burn them.
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WriterMom Wed, May 21, 2008 8:20:29am |
DOUBLE AND TRIPLE HEH
Short version: met a very high ranking police officer at an event...chatted, blah blah...now is helping me with people parking in the disabled spots at my kid's school. Bwa. Ha. Ha.
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Spiny Norman Wed, May 21, 2008 8:21:42am |
re: #712 sparrowlake
LOL. Yeah, they really should have a trial before they burn them.
A duck!
/sorry. not funny at all...
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WriterMom Wed, May 21, 2008 8:22:29am |
re: #716 Kenneth
Kenneth, the details are even more delicious. I'll fill you in at the next Lizard Lunch if you can make it.
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alegrias Wed, May 21, 2008 8:23:24am |
re: #642 godfrey
In East Berlin, the finest dining establishment for Party Members was an open-air cafe' type place that bordered a long reflecting pool. In the pool swam thousands of distended carp, like white, scaly cadavers, rolling over themselves in the murky water. Apparently, the good time was to take your date there and throw biscuits to them, to watch them fight and roil.
Disgusting.
* * *
You can do this at the National Arboretum in Washington, DC too--the main building is surrounded by a Koi pool, which people come to feed fish.
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Spiny Norman Wed, May 21, 2008 8:23:30am |
re: #713 Occasional Reader
Did I really write "infilitrators"?
You did, Occasional. You did.
/obscure
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Occasional Reader Wed, May 21, 2008 8:23:41am |
re: #704 docremulac
Witch burning's made a big comeback in Africa.
Sweet jebus. And Kenya is considered one of the more advanced countries on the continent.
I think this calls for a reprise of... (new and improved, digitally remastered)...
The Africa Song
Haunch of eland roasting on an elephant-dung fire
Tse-tse flies nipping at your nose
Marxist dogma being preached to the choir
and folks dressed up like Bakongos
Everybody knows
some oxblood and a calabash
help your belly feel less tight
Hottentots
with their bonfires aglow
will find it hard to sleep tonight
They know that clan war's on its way
They've loaded up the Kalashnikovs, they're gonna slay
every mother's child, from that other tribe
while the UN stands idly by
And so I'm offering this simple plan
to kids, whose life expectancy's thirty-two
Marxist paradise has failed, many times, many ways
Western capitalism's... for you
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sparrowlake Wed, May 21, 2008 8:23:44am |
re: #714 WriterMom
DOUBLE AND TRIPLE HEH
Short version: met a very high ranking police officer at an event...chatted, blah blah...now is helping me with people parking in the disabled spots at my kid's school. Bwa. Ha. Ha.
Too bad valuable police resources are wasted on traffic enforcement.
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jorline Wed, May 21, 2008 8:24:32am |
re: #674 cartoonboy
If I farted while watching Obama on tv would that be racist?
NO, but if you place a lighter by your butt and create a two foot flame it could be attempted murder...watch for Secret Service officers.
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GeeWiz Wed, May 21, 2008 8:24:50am |
The problem I have with Obama is not what he says but what he hides behind the curtain.
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Ojoe Wed, May 21, 2008 8:25:12am |
re: #663 incanus
Coventry lost its cathedral. And the Brits knew the raid was coming but they couldn't evacuate as much as they wanted because that would tip the Huns off that the Brits had beaten the German code with "Ultra".
Such is the tragedy of war.
Let us hope we are wise enough to stop the next set of bastards before they get too strong.
Obama is certainly
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wannabuyaduck Wed, May 21, 2008 8:25:20am |
re: #670 yochanan
There was a black panther radical that went into exile into africa and after living there for some time came back to America and became very pro America, can't remember which one.
anyone remember this?
Eldridge Cleaver --
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Kenneth Wed, May 21, 2008 8:25:51am |
re: #726 wannabuyaduck
Eldridge Cleaver --
nope, Stokley Carmichael.
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WriterMom Wed, May 21, 2008 8:27:48am |
re: #722 sparrowlake
Actually, the police are just speaking to the Traffic Enforcement people to get them on it. Not doing it themselves.
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Kenneth Wed, May 21, 2008 8:27:49am |
re: #727 Kenneth
oh wait a minute, Carmichael went to exile in Africa, but never became pro-American. I'm wrong. Cleaver it is, he even became a Mormon!
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sparrowlake Wed, May 21, 2008 8:28:56am |
re: #717 Spiny Norman
Sometimes you just gotta laugh or you'll cry.
Did the shitheaded elders in Salem give the witches a trial?
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wannabuyaduck Wed, May 21, 2008 8:29:03am |
re: #727 Kenneth
nope, Stokley Carmichael.
It would be both of them then -- Cleaver was in Algeria for awhile as well as Cuba among other places. He became a Republican and endorsed Ronald Reagan.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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redstateredneck Wed, May 21, 2008 8:29:06am |
re: #715 WriterMom
Aww. Mazel tov!
Thank you!
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wannabuyaduck Wed, May 21, 2008 8:30:08am |
re: #729 Kenneth
oh wait a minute, Carmichael went to exile in Africa, but never became pro-American. I'm wrong. Cleaver it is, he even became a Mormon!
Beat me to it! Got to be quick around here --
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sparrowlake Wed, May 21, 2008 8:30:49am |
re: #728 WriterMom
Actually, the police are just speaking to the Traffic Enforcement people to get them on it. Not doing it themselves.
Actually I applaud you for speaking up.
I hate those lazy, inconsiderate bastards who park in the disabled spots.
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Endangered in MASS Wed, May 21, 2008 8:31:23am |
re: #697 Occasional Reader
The anti-personnel mines that faced East were to cut down the 5th columnists that would help the invading capitalist war mongers.
Same with the machine gun towers.
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alegrias Wed, May 21, 2008 8:33:16am |
re: #695 Spiny Norman
But you see, to make an omelette, it may be necessary to break a few eggs.
/duranty
* * *
The Potato omelette (tortilla espanyola) is made same way!
That's what Stalin's people and duped Westerners said when they came to "help" during Spain's civil war.
Smash churches, nuns, priests, private property, people's homes, businesses, families, etc. For benefit glorious Proletariat People!
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yochanan Wed, May 21, 2008 8:34:40am |
re: #681 Kenneth
it was someone else this person did not change his view point.
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Spiny Norman Wed, May 21, 2008 8:36:15am |
re: #721 Occasional Reader
Sweet jebus. And Kenya is considered one of the more advanced countries on the continent.
It was. Until, that is, the Muslims went on a rampage throughout a large portion of the country... after their candidate, and Friend of Barry, Raila Odinga lost/was robbed of the election last December. The violence was (and is) heavily one-sided, but you'd never know it from the MSM reporting.
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wannabuyaduck Wed, May 21, 2008 8:37:23am |
re: #729 Kenneth
oh wait a minute, Carmichael went to exile in Africa, but never became pro-American. I'm wrong. Cleaver it is, he even became a Mormon!
I see that Carmichael did renounce the Black Panthers but otherwise remained anti-American, except when it came to his medical treatment.
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redstateredneck Wed, May 21, 2008 8:38:00am |
Since I'm leaving early today and tomorrow and taking off Friday, I'd better at least pretend to be working today.
Y'all have a good one!
Later, lizards.
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Kenneth Wed, May 21, 2008 8:38:31am |
re: #737 yochanan
#726 wannabuyaduck got it: Eldridge Cleaver -- he denounced the Black Panthers, became a Mormon and endorsed Ronald Reagan!
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Spiny Norman Wed, May 21, 2008 8:39:34am |
re: #730 sparrowlake
Sometimes you just gotta laugh or you'll cry.
Did the shitheaded elders in Salem give the witches a trial?
Yes, with lurid and outrageous court testimony hardly different from "She turned me into a newt!".
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GeeWiz Wed, May 21, 2008 8:39:35am |
The time has come for this lizard to catch some shut-eye. I leave you with this re: Writer Mom, MandyManners, VXBush & Miss Trixie:
Just had to continue the ELO thingy, sorry.
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Charles Wed, May 21, 2008 8:41:47am |
I see some people have noticed the down dingers for my posts -- there are some people who apparently hate it when I post anything that isn't about radical Islam or another "serious" topic. Open threads make them hit that minus button like crazed ferrets.
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Former SSG Wed, May 21, 2008 8:44:42am |
re: #372 galloping granny
Not true. You can use the freedom of information act to get all kinds of stuff. It should be declassed by now.
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WriterMom Wed, May 21, 2008 8:45:32am |
re: #744 Charles
Charles, could you please ask Stinky to change the down ding I did-I meant to see who the dingers were and did a down-ding by accident.
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yochanan Wed, May 21, 2008 8:46:30am |
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
he was a very complex person hope his conversion to LDS made him happy I am not sure it did because he had drug problems later in life.
remember the very early black nationalists like WEB DeBois may have had a more positive outlook than later ones like Louis Farakhan DeBois supported Zionism as a positive example for black americans.
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Kenneth Wed, May 21, 2008 8:53:36am |
Peruvian Nazis rally against Jews.
everything old is new again!
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calcajun Wed, May 21, 2008 10:25:15am |
Suddenly, the line of "We found a witch! May we burn her?!" is not so funny anymore.
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
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