Good news from France!

All that Israel has done during the past decade, capitulation after capitulation, failure after failure, allowing attack without response, was, IMO, telegraphed by how they reacted to the El Dura incident.

Anyone with half a brain and a passing familiarity with physics that just comes from living on this planet, could see immediately that the IDF could not have been the ones shooting at this kid- EVEN IF THEY WANTED TO.

Even as some of us on other boards at the time where posting this truth over and over again, the idiotic Government of Israel was issuing apologies.

From that Israeli attitude followed suicide bombings, surrendering Gaza, electing Olmert, surrender in Lebanon, allowing soldiers to be held for ransom, the current surrender talks on various fronts, just repulsive behavior, an Israel without self respect or purpose.

Will Israel push this truth now?

/dancing in the streets and handing out candy

A victory for France!

Good news indeed. In America leftist moonbat Judges would have left a similar suit to linger for years.

The truth won? In France? That's just outstanding.

Finally some good news today!

The anti-Israel media and the Palestinian sympathizers will continue peddling the nonsense about how al Dura was murdered by the IDF, regardless of how this case was resolved.

That's due, in part, to the failure of the Israeli government to show it was impossible for them to have killed al Dura and that he was killed by Palestinian terrorists in crossfire. Spray and pray terrorists.

Not Israelis.

And the Israeli government continues to slowly respond to these kinds of incidents - whenever Palestinians are killed in airstrikes, they're quick to apologize for civilian casualties, especially children, even though the terrorists purposefully surround themselves with children and women to be used as cannon fodder for the evening news.

It's a start ...

I may just have to start eating FRENCH toast and FRENCH fries again

France: soaking up (indeed, aiding and abetting) Palestinian propaganda while SUING anyone who questions it.

What's next, suing firemen for reporting that 300 cars mysteriously caught fire in Parisian suburbs the night before?

Karsenty is a hero.

now it's time to really turn the screw on France 2 and the rest of the dhimmi Israel hating media.

For those not in the know about this, like myself, I found what appears to be a pretty good summary of the entire situation.
[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Unspeedy trial.

Injustice has been done.

re: #14 buzzsawmonkey

Not together, I hope.

hey ,, don't knock it till you've tried it !

maybe this is the start of france looking closely and acting courageously.
now is the time.

All together now in France:

"Al-Dura was murdered by dirty Jews...the car riots never happened...our ghettos are filled with assimilated Muslims who place France above Islam...and Arafat did not die of AIDS!"

(Entire nation repeats the mantra while covering its ears & closing its eyes).

And we can expect a big apology from AFP, as well as articles explaining how the Israelis aren't terrorists, but the palis are, in
10, 9, Oh, so how cold is it there now? 6000 degrees? I guess it will be a while before it freezes over. I'm not waiting

re: #15 Diamond Bullet

France: soaking up (indeed, aiding and abetting) Palestinian propaganda while SUING anyone who questions it.

What's next, suing firemen for reporting that 300 cars mysteriously caught fire in Parisian suburbs the night before?

THEY HATE THESE CARS!

/Steve Martin's The Jerk

re: #5 buzzsawmonkey,

The Mohammedans don't need the truth to believe in. After all, they believe in the Koran and Mohammed.

re: #10 lawhawk

Spray and pray terrorists.

I thought they prayed before they sprayed.

Well it took long enough. That Bull $#!+ lie was debunked last year.

Maybe this explains the three visits from Reuters today.

re: #10 lawhawk

and that he was killed by Palestinian terrorists in crossfire

Or, deliberately.

HOLY CRAP!

Swedish police hold two men over nuclear scare

STOCKHOLM, May 21 (Reuters) - Swedish police detained two men on suspicion of planning to sabotage a nuclear power station on Wednesday after one of them was discovered entering it with small amounts of a highly explosive material.

"Two men who were taken in for questioning this morning have now been detained on suspicion of preparing for sabotage," said Kalmar County Police spokesman Sven-Erik Karlsson.

Police were alerted shortly before 8 a.m. by the Oskarshamn nuclear power plant on the southeast coast of Sweden. Initially, police only said they were interrogating one man.

"They told us a welder who was going to perform a job there had been stopped in a random security check. He had been carrying small amounts of the highly explosive material TATP," Karlsson said.

TATP, or triacetone triperoxide, is extremely unstable, especially when subjected to heat, friction and shock.

The compound can be prepared in a home laboratory from easily available household chemicals. It has been used by suicide bombers in Israel and by Richard Reid, the thwarted British "shoebomber" who attempted to blow up a transatlantic airliner in 2001.

While it is good news we've seen the move from saying one thing in English, another in Arabi (Arafat's day) to putting together rather slick fauxnews for PR purposes.
When will we see the day of general debunking?
The truth is remaining hidden for too long.
These Palestinian deceivers should be totally repudiated.
And any future attempt by them to pull more of the same should be instantly dealt with.

re: #30 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Still no names?
When do we learn the names of these men?

The ironic thing is that France 2's Enderlin himself brought attention to his hoax through his false suit against Karsenty.

It seems he failed to learn from Oscar Wilde's experience:
"Do not sue a man for libel if what he said about you is true."

re: #30 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

HOLY CRAP!

Swedish police hold two men over nuclear scare

Yeah, I'm surprised that I have not heard this on Fox yet - not a peep.

re: #32 mean Gene

Still no names?
When do we learn the names of these men?

probably Carl Johannson and Gunnard Lindblom...Two fundamentalist Buddhists

re: #29 Occasional Reader

Or, deliberately.

I felt that this story was a great example as to how these evil f**ks will sacrifice their own children to further their lost cause. I'll say it was DELIBERATE... Final Answer.

Is France still saying Arafat did not die of AIDS while simultaneously maintaining if he died of AIDS it was because filthy Jews injected him with the AIDS virus?

That's what the Palis have been saying-- and official France just parrots whatever the Palis instruct them to say.

re: #36 ethanxxx

I felt that this story was a great example as to how these evil f**ks will sacrifice their own children to further their lost cause. I'll say it was DELIBERATE... Final Answer.

It may very well be that the boy was never killed at all -- that it was entirely play-acting.

If so, one may wonder where he now is and what he is doing.

re: #34 galloping granny

It was a false alarm.

JPost reports Enderlin still insists he's still correct;

A statement forwarded to The Jerusalem Post from Enderlin noted that "the appeals court ruled that Karsenty's words were, in fact, libelous, and that Karsenty failed to prove that the news was staged and/or false." The statement added that the case was nevertheless overturned because "the court believed Karsenty had the right to stridently criticize the [France 2] report, since it dealt with an emotional topic, and that Karsenty's investigation into the matter convinced the court he was bring [sic]sincere."

A source close to Enderlin's side of the case explained that "you can get out of a libel suit either by proving you're right, or by showing you were sincere and had some research. The court found the latter to be the case."

The source also said Enderlin and France 2 would appeal the verdict, noting that they had won three out of four instances of judgment in the matter.

But, replied Karsenty, the only appeal left would be to France's Supreme Court.

"If they continue to insist they are correct," added Karsenty, "we will have victims of terror attacks that directly resulted from the [al-Dura] footage sue France 2."

re: #27 ethanxxx

Well it took long enough. That Bull $#!+ lie was debunked last year.

It takes a rat a while to stop squirming to get out once trapped...

So the French brought back Philip Karsenty from Devil's Island, and, like Dreyfus, said he wasn't really guilty.
Good.
However, Charles Enderlin and France2 remain the Major Ferdinand Walsin Esterhazy of the MSM.

re: #34 galloping granny

Yeah, I'm surprised that I have not heard this on Fox yet - not a peep.

ya ever notice they don't do "nucular" news? Any of them. Even the yellow cake thing was only talked about after it saw the light of day...

wonder why? Hell, I tough they loved frothing up the masses...

re: #30 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Was it those crazy Methodists again?

re: #39 Killgore Trout

It was a false alarm.

what's that mean? They had only detonators and no nuclear materials?

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re: #38 Clio

It may very well be that the boy was never killed at all -- that it was entirely play-acting.

If so, one may wonder where he now is and what he is doing.

Probably one of the moving corpses seen in the footage from the last invasion of Lebanon. He's rehearsing now for the next one. Green helmet guy is coaching him.

re: #38 Clio

It may very well be that the boy was never killed at all -- that it was entirely play-acting.

If so, one may wonder where he now is and what he is doing.

2007 - Production Assistant, "Mortar Hits Ambulance"
2007 - Camera operator, "Al-Yahud fires rocket at children"
2008 - Camera operator, "Gaza: Open-air prison" (in production)

re: #18 bosforus

For those not in the know about this, like myself, I found what appears to be a pretty good summary of the entire situation.
[Link: www.jpost.com...]

You will note, though, that the court did not rule France 2 fabricated their story, only that Karsenty conducted sufficient research to establish his 'sincerity.' While unquestioningly a positive ruling, France still hasn't denounced this blatant media hoax for what it is.

A statement forwarded to The Jerusalem Post from Enderlin noted that "the appeals court ruled that Karsenty's words were, in fact, libelous, and that Karsenty failed to prove that the news was staged and/or false." The statement added that the case was nevertheless overturned because "the court believed Karsenty had the right to stridently criticize the [France 2] report, since it dealt with an emotional topic, and that Karsenty's investigation into the matter convinced the court he was bring sincere."

A source close to Enderlin's side of the case explained that "you can get out of a libel suit either by proving you're right, or by showing you were sincere and had some research. The court found the latter to be the case."

re: #45 paxnhymn

what's that mean? They had only detonators and no nuclear materials?

It looks like the test was a false positive. I've tested positive for explosives at airports screenings before. It happens.

re: #48 carl b is correct... which is why tort suits should be brought against France2;

"If they continue to insist they are correct," added Karsenty, "we will have victims of terror attacks that directly resulted from the [al-Dura] footage sue France 2."

re: #38 Clio

It may very well be that the boy was never killed at all -- that it was entirely play-acting.

If so, one may wonder where he now is and what he is doing.

I seem to recall some postings or speculation that the *dad* and their *family* were at a wedding and it was put forth that is was the kid's wedding being celebrated. Somehow the numbers of the ages added up. Made a lot of sense at the time but I can't recall the details.

Can't remember where those posts are exactly.

Lizards?

re: #48 carl b

You will note, though, that the court did not rule France 2 fabricated their story, only that Karsenty conducted sufficient research to establish his 'sincerity.' While unquestioningly a positive ruling, France still hasn't denounced this blatant media hoax for what it is.

Great point. Legally speaking, if I understand correctly, this has absolutely no impact on France2. The positives of this, however, are increased confidence for those wishing to question and criticize France's media outlets and it does throw some egg on France2's face just by being the ones that Karsenty was up against.

France2 is the real "Faux News" at this point.

This is a victory for media watchdogs everywhere, as well as for people that know Israel gets a raw deal in global media coverage. It has been proven for the record.

If the media were as complicit in reporting these developments in an attempt to correct the record as they were to misreport Palestinian propaganda this would be a victory.

However, it's low visibility and thus this issue will still be an Islamist victory.

At least we have faithful bloggers who keep us informed of the truth. Without their efforts I would have been deceived by their lies and deceit. Thanks, LGF.

J'accuse! Non, pardon monsieur, s'il vous plait.....

re: #49 Killgore Trout

It looks like the test was a false positive. I've tested positive for explosives at airports screenings before. It happens.

I can buy that. Most of the quick test are designed to give a positive reading at even the slightest detection, under a better safe than sorry mentality. In depth tests can then rule out whether the substance was actually dangerous.

Aha! Found the link. Mohammad's wedding.

Whoops! Forgot to post this:

I'm going to go a step further. On September 30, 2000, the day Mohamed was 'killed,' he was 12 years old. That would make him 19 or 20 today. 19 or 20 is marrying age in this part of the world - in some communities even for the boys. I'm going to go out on a limb to say that the wedding was Mohamed's and that the reason Hamas called al-Dura in was to 'remind him' not to do anything that would damage Mohamed's propaganda value.

Thanks Miss Trixie.
I vaguely remembered al Dura's dad getting into some trouble a while back.
I thought the Pali's were worried he'd talk, what with the brain damage and all.

Sad thing is that it's already been proven that the IDF didn't kill Al Dura, and that will never receive the same kind of news coverage as when he was "killed."

It took 7 minutes for Israel to apologize, and 7 years for Israel to regret for its stupidity, in which hundreds of people died.

When will Israel ever learn that words count? They haven't yet.

re: #10 lawhawk

The anti-Israel media and the Palestinian sympathizers will continue peddling the nonsense about how al Dura was murdered by the IDF, regardless of how this case was resolved.

That's due, in part, to the failure of the Israeli government to show it was impossible for them to have killed al Dura and that he was killed by Palestinian terrorists in crossfire. Spray and pray terrorists.

Not Israelis.

And the Israeli government continues to slowly respond to these kinds of incidents - whenever Palestinians are killed in airstrikes, they're quick to apologize for civilian casualties, especially children, even though the terrorists purposefully surround themselves with children and women to be used as cannon fodder for the evening news.

I don't think it is Israel's fault. Once the story is created, it makes not one whit of difference to the press or lefties whether it is accurate or not. It is the "narrative" that counts, even if it is a pack of lies. False but true. I know people like this. You show them the truth and it doesn't even register except that they pity you for not understanding and accepting the narrative. This for sure is not Israel's fault. It is the fault of our marxist education system which has brainwashed our citizens for more than a generation now.

Yassir Aracat is upset at the ruling.

more cat pictures

I tried Google News for this story - just to see how it's being play - and found that it's not being played. The only news sources to run the story so far are either Israeli and Jewish news outlets or American bloggers.

Hurray! Victory! Now we should all search the subject on Google several times so that they know people are looking for the story because that is how they decide to list it as a news story!