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A Concise History of the Fauxtography Blogstorm in the 2006 Lebanon War

Wed, May 21, 2008 at 9:04:03 pm PDT

A great piece by Stephen D. Cooper: A Concise History of the Fauxtography Blogstorm in the 2006 Lebanon War - American Communication Journal.

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1 Render  Wed, May 21, 2008 9:05:58pm

whoa whoa whoa!

I just got back.

BLOG
POST
BLAST,
R

2 Vero  Wed, May 21, 2008 9:06:23pm

if you can't beat em, fake it

3 Globular Cluster  Wed, May 21, 2008 9:06:44pm

If only there were more professors like Cooper.

4 Americain  Wed, May 21, 2008 9:08:04pm

Let the Faux Times roll!

5 MandyManners  Wed, May 21, 2008 9:08:27pm

That was the summer of my arrival here.

REUTERS, YOU SUCK DONKEY.

6 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, May 21, 2008 9:08:40pm

re: #3 Globular Cluster

If only there were more professors like Cooper.

He'd never make it at Hahvahd or Chomsky's MIT. He actually thinks.

7 Sharmuta  Wed, May 21, 2008 9:10:46pm

Makes me proud to be a Lizard.

8 Globular Cluster  Wed, May 21, 2008 9:16:16pm

re: #6 Kosh's Shadow

He'd never make it at Hahvahd or Chomsky's MIT. He actually thinks.

The Harvard journalism school is a disgrace. Not much different than Columbia's. I recall a professor appearing on PBS regarding the NY Times hit piece on McCain (his non-existent "affair"). The Harvard professor was defending the Times.

9 LEGION  Wed, May 21, 2008 9:20:20pm

Ditto

10 Fenway_Nation  Wed, May 21, 2008 9:21:20pm

One can always hope that show of force by Hezbollah last week was simply the photographer trying to remove (large quantites of ) dirt under difficult lighting....

11 pat  Wed, May 21, 2008 9:23:56pm

French News Media right on it.

12 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 21, 2008 9:24:22pm

Scholarly!

13 bosforus  Wed, May 21, 2008 9:26:48pm

re: #5 MandyManners

That was the summer of my arrival here.

REUTERS, YOU SUCK DONKEY.

Same here, except it took me a year to finally register! Next time I try to register at a site that has selective registration I'll be sure to have already thought of a screen name to avoid a repeat of my panic attack when I finally caught an open registration.

14 gop_patriot  Wed, May 21, 2008 9:28:19pm

Wow, that's an amazing article. Concise, indeed! I haven't even gone through it all yet. Fantastic.

15 itellu3times  Wed, May 21, 2008 9:29:32pm

LGF - it's the real thing.

16 DesertSage  Wed, May 21, 2008 9:30:06pm

Cheese Wiz

17 pat  Wed, May 21, 2008 9:30:37pm

Mandy, cool. And loved since.

18 JimmyTheClaw  Wed, May 21, 2008 9:37:57pm

what a night
why do i have to keep correcting "point out truth" the msm oh well i only pissed off a few kool-aid drinkers at the private club i drink at

19 jaunte  Wed, May 21, 2008 9:38:19pm

Reposting from the Eurofascists thread:

I have to make a comment about MacGregor's spinoff link upstairs:
My business partner, who has spent the last 15 years or more with a cell-phone near his head, has had two brain surgeries recently to remove "schwannomas," and is now deaf in one ear. Read the whole thing, and be warned. Use the cell sparingly.

Acoustic neuromas, also called schwannomas, are a non-cancerous tumor that develops on the nerve that connects the ear to the brain. The tumor usually grows slowly. As it grows, it presses against the nerves responsible for hearing and balance. Radiosurgery is usually the standard treatment.

Signs and symptoms of acoustic neuromas may include hearing loss, usually gradual — although in some cases sudden — and occurring on only one side or more pronounced on one side, ringing (tinnitus) in the affected ear, dizziness (vertigo), loss of balance, facial numbness and tingling. The tumor also may press on the brainstem and in rare cases, it may grow large enough to compress the brainstem and be life-threatening.
[Link: [Link: www.cancermonthly.com...]...]

20 realwest  Wed, May 21, 2008 9:40:44pm

I simply must say congratulations to Charles, zombie, Rusty and the other bloggers involved in all this.
While I certainly was aware of much of this through LGF and Charles' efforts to get the truth out into the light of day, and especially zombie's truly excellent work in assembling, analyzing and presenting a great deal of the bloggers work, until I read this article by Mr. Cooper I still didn't appreciate the nature and the incredible extent of these exercises in journalistic dishonestly and deceit.
Again, congratulations to Charles, zombie, Rusty, all of the other bloggers involved and especially to Mr. Cooper for synthesizing so clearly the events that occurred and the manifest lying and cover up's by not just the Mainstream Media, but especially the SOURCES (AP, AFP, Reuters) of the MSM's information. That these perfect examples of journalist perfidy - really first covered by Charles and especially after zombies' excellent pieces, continued and were, only partially and grudgingly accepted by those news sources speaks VOLUMES about the lack of ANY journalistic ethic's or mores.

21 right_on_target  Wed, May 21, 2008 9:41:08pm

The news wire services need to wise up.
EVERYBODY has access to computers and can clearly see when photos and documents have been altered. EVERY digital camera comes with almost production photo studio software so people have learned a lot fixing Uncle Joe's snaggle tooth, Aunt Emma's red eyes and getting rid of the tree growing out of Grandpa's head.

Maybe they need to go back to pen/ink drawings and dream up their own propaganda.

22 Neo Con since 9-11  Wed, May 21, 2008 9:41:08pm
con·cise (kn-ss)
adj.
Expressing much in few words; clear and succinct.

Excellent and thorough the article was. At 16,000 words, concise it was not.

23 Irene NYC  Wed, May 21, 2008 9:42:36pm

Ah, the memories, the memories!

24 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, May 21, 2008 9:42:38pm
25 jaunte  Wed, May 21, 2008 9:43:36pm

re: #24 ploome hineni

Sounds like you might want to get that checked!

26 jaunte  Wed, May 21, 2008 9:44:08pm

re: #20 realwest

Excellent summation, realwest: hear hear.

27 pat  Wed, May 21, 2008 9:44:55pm

Juante, that does not sound well, re ear phones, does it? (pun intended (sometimes they are just missed, sigh))

28 realwest  Wed, May 21, 2008 9:46:53pm

re: #21 right_on_target Um, with all due respect, while I obvioulsy do have access to computers and the net, I can't always tell when a photo has been fooled around with or digitally altered. Thank God for people like Charles and Zombie and Rusty Shackelford who in fact can see or at least "sense" that something is wrong with a photograph.

29 realwest  Wed, May 21, 2008 9:48:50pm

re: #26 jaunte Thanks juante! It's easy to summarize that which has been presented so clearly (though I must confess I had to read Mr. Cooper's article twice to really get the summation correct)!

30 pat  Wed, May 21, 2008 9:49:02pm

I will confess to a miniscule part. After Charles did his photo analysis, the first time, I contacted Michelle Malkin, late at nite. She went nuts on it. Lead story in minutes. She thanked me. She likes Charles.

31 jaunte  Wed, May 21, 2008 9:50:05pm

re: #27 pat

I have to say, I'm not a scientist or a doctor, and my knowledge of "schwannomas" is only by knowing my business partner. but he is a heavy cell-phone user, and he did have to have surgery twice. He is a sailor. If he had just (by chance) done any scuba diving, the doctors say the tumor would have killed him at depth, because it had weakened his eardrum and made a passageway into his brain that seawater could have entered.

32 realwest  Wed, May 21, 2008 9:50:28pm

re: #30 pat You know, I haven't really been to Michelle's site in quite a while, does she have LGF on her blogroll?

33 jaunte  Wed, May 21, 2008 9:53:12pm

re: #32 realwest

She has a "Buzzworthy" column on the right side of her site, but no permanent blogroll I can see.

34 ophidian  Wed, May 21, 2008 9:54:19pm

The author also has a book "Watching the Watchdog: Bloggers As the Fifth Estate." The summary on Amazon notes that the book touches on Rathergate.

35 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 21, 2008 9:56:53pm

re: #34 ophidian

Interesting. Looks like we have a lizard here.

36 pat  Wed, May 21, 2008 9:59:22pm

jaunte, I am concerned only as a runner. Ipod. only 12 people have my cell # and I don't know how to use it any way.

RW, I have no idea, Michelle attracts a different group than LGF. Let us say that Mandy, Trigger Girlie, Ginn, Bebe Boobs Destroy, tfk, song and dance, etc would be considered abnormal. Here?......they are the gang.

37 right_on_target  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:00:09pm

re: #28 realwest
Sorry,
Didn't mean to demean anyone in the general public but I meant to emphasize to the Wire services that THEY should realize the public in general are wise-ing up because of progress in technology.

That's one of the great things about this blog and a few others is that
the moderators TEACH.

But I don't know which course Charles is on now, Fauxtography 101, 102 or 110.

38 tradewind  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:00:19pm
To the false disseminator Charles of the small green imperialist/infidel game ball made of skin of the pig /spit/ and his evil minions:

You people have no idea how hard you are making my life as I struggle to adjust to my new gig as Syrian Information Minister, dammit....
You should all be committing suicide at the Cedars by the hundreds, I am quite certain of this.....


PBUH, Mohammed S'ayd Ali, Aka Baghdad Bob
Former Iraqi Information minister

39 Intrepid  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:00:37pm

I read through the first inch or so (as noted by the lil' scroll button on the right) but I will save it to go back and read it all later. It is a scholarly work, and one that is most appreciated for its recognition of the true journalistic work of those who debunk the "work" (spit) of those who are supposedly "real" journalists.

In this internet age, the term "journalist" has changed indeed.

40 BlueCanuck  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:01:58pm

Well, that was quite a read. Very well written and documented.

41 ophidian  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:02:50pm

re: #34 ophidian

Interestingly (for someone interested in blogging), I cannot find a web page for the Professor, though he is responsible for his department's home page (see bottom).

42 NY Nana  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:02:52pm

What a bunch of fauxnies!

43 least  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:05:12pm

Unfortunately, the MSM has a deep, deep, DEEP memory hole.

I predict that this story will get not the coverage it should. And I'm confident that those who should read about it and learn from it - won't.

Be vigilant, Leezards!
('cause they sure won't)

44 jaunte  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:05:17pm

re: #36 pat

I think ipod through the earbuds is no problem. Radio waves through the skull is a problem...

45 Intrepid  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:05:55pm

re: #36 pat

jaunte, I am concerned only as a runner. Ipod. only 12 people have my cell # and I don't know how to use it any way.

RW, I have no idea, Michelle attracts a different group than LGF. Let us say that Mandy, Trigger Girlie, Ginn, Bebe Boobs Destroy, tfk, song and dance, etc would be considered abnormal. Here?......they are the gang.

There is definitely a narrow scope of viewpoint on MM's site, but sometimes I get good insight from them. They have a troll or two, but they all join together to trounce them soundly.

Her focus often runs toward illegal immigration issues, and general critique of the Republican party. I've seen LGF headlines on her rotating blogroll - that's how I came to read here, back a number of months ago.

Michelle sure can whip out the zingers against idiocy, I must say.

/grateful to MM's site for leading me to lizardia!

46 slokat  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:06:27pm

re: #35 Killgore Trout

How about a slew of slow ol' lizards?

47 gop_patriot  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:06:38pm

re: #41 ophidian

The closest thing I found was this, his profile page. Doesn't appear to have his own blog, though.

48 lummox  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:07:16pm

The MSM lies and distorts, yawn.

That's the msm's good point.

49 pat  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:07:28pm

NYNana, LOL. (all my home computers are down except this old iMac).
Did you read my articles at 1000 Papercuts?

50 slokat  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:08:15pm

re: #44 jaunte

link to a study?

51 Intrepid  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:08:18pm

re: #37 right_on_target

The great thing I've seen here is that Charles starts the lessons, and the lizards continue on with the instructions! I've learned heaps from being here.

Hope to continue learning!

52 realwest  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:08:21pm

re: #35 Killgore Trout Well, not new exactly, but someone whom I trust will post more often that he/she has to date!
Oh, and my apologies to Dr. Cooper for calling him Mr. instead of Doctor.
Hey Killgore, did you read the two customer reviews - pretty damned good!

53 Intrepid  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:10:39pm

re: #44 jaunte

I think ipod through the earbuds is no problem. Radio waves through the skull is a problem...

Except for hearing loss - watch out for the volume on your IPod!

54 zombie  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:11:13pm

Wow, zombietime is mentioned extensively in this chapter. I'm an object of academic analysis!

55 pat  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:11:25pm

Of course I love Michelle, or would not mention that she personally thanked me. She is as polite as she is pretty.

56 jaunte  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:11:31pm

re: #50 slokat

I didn't see one in the article; take my caution as a sample of one, but it's serious enough I thought I should post it. Here's the link to the article:
[Link: www.cancermonthly.com...]

This study did not say that cell phone use leads to brain tumors, only that long-term use may increase one’s statistical risk of certain brain tumors. In addition, it should be noted, that other studies have concluded that there is no connection between cell phones and increased risk of cancer. This issue is far from resolved. But for those heavy cell-phone users who want to err on the side of caution, it may be wise to use one of the various non-RF devices (such as headphones) that can place some distance between a cell phone and the user’s brain.
57 ophidian  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:12:00pm

re: #47 gop_patriot

Good find! (I couldn't find much of anything on that website.) That page also links to an (audio) interview about the book.

58 jaunte  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:13:10pm

re: #54 zombie

We're not worthy!

59 ophidian  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:13:20pm

re: #57 ophidian

Good find! (I couldn't find much of anything on that website.) That page also links to an (audio) interview about the book.

Which, of course, is broken.

60 Psaturn  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:13:45pm

I read that article...it ends with commentary about Zombie...

Zombie is FAMOUS!

61 pat  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:13:52pm

#54 zombie ,no doubt curious as to why the undead are so interested in war and the fauxtography thereof...

62 Psaturn  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:14:38pm

re: #54 zombie

Wow, zombietime is mentioned extensively in this chapter. I'm an object of academic analysis!

Yeah! Will you let the author take your picture and show to the whole world?

Just kidding!

63 right_on_target  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:15:06pm

re: #47 gop_patriot

Read the syllabus for each one of his courses. You'll get an idea about the professor.

64 Intrepid  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:15:24pm

re: #54 zombie

Wow, zombietime is mentioned extensively in this chapter. I'm an object of academic analysis!

With all your work, how could you not be mentioned?

Be ready for scholarly folk to come and dig through your work!

65 NY Nana  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:15:47pm

re: #49 pat

NYNana, LOL. (all my home computers are down except this old iMac).
Did you read my articles at 1000 Papercuts?

Ouch! No, I didn't...in the spinoffs or the blog?

/I have Macaphobia...my daughter and son in law both have Macs, and I have yet to use theirs in the 4 years they are married!

The 20-month old thinks he is sending me emails...hilarious! Yipes! He will be 22 months old in a week.

66 zombie  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:16:58pm

I still feel guilty as hell about all this because my "Taxonomy of Fraud" chapter is still half-finished after all this time; and I wasted many days working on the supra-directory of which the ambulance report was originally just a small subset, but never got around to finishing any of it. Look at this tragic page:

THIS PAGE IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION

as of December 28, 2006

We hope to have it online sometime in January. Check back then. It will be worth the wait!

Until then, you can see the previous version of the report that will soon updated here by visiting the zombietime Reuters Photo Scandal page.

You should see the half-finished report that was gonna go there. A thing of beauty. Alas, I now accept that i will never finish it. There's simply not enough time in the day.

67 realwest  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:17:16pm

re: #48 lummox You are of course correct, but what I found fascinating was how the MSM's only real "sources" of news in the ME (I do NOT count "journalists" hiding in the hotel bars in the Green Zone), that is, Reuters, AP and AFP, were the ones guilty of distorting and lying and covering up - not just to us, but to the very MSM itself.
Mind you I'm not excusing the MSM - any source needs to be checked and especially sources with photographs, where the MSM all would seem to have photography "editors" who ought to be able to see this bullshit and either don't or choose to ignore it.

68 Intrepid  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:18:22pm

re: #55 pat

Of course I love Michelle, or would not mention that she personally thanked me. She is as polite as she is pretty.

And she rose highly in my esteem when Geraldo Rivera said he would spit on her if he saw her!

Which led to her not being on Bill O'Reilly's show anymore, since Bill didn't stand up to Geraldo for his statement.

Anyone who pisses off Geraldo in such a way gets my respect.

69 redc1c4  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:20:36pm

re: #54 zombie

Wow, zombietime is mentioned extensively in this chapter. I'm an object of academic analysis!

you're probably the author..... %-)

70 realwest  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:21:55pm

re: #47 gop_patriot Great find! Dr. Cooper is apparently very well trained in dealing with matters such as the one he wrote upon and there is a half hour or so audio clip of his being interviewed which I WILL listen to tomorrow when I can turn on the speakers!
Thanks!

71 ophidian  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:22:41pm

re: #59 ophidian

re: #70 realwest

Although the web link does not seem to work, the podcast is still on iTunes (search for tcs). Interview is with Ed Driscoll (who, of course, has also interviewed Charles and a variety of other interesting people).

72 zombie  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:23:15pm

re: #69 redc1c4

you're probably the author..... %-)

Oh yeah, that's right, I've got that professor gig in Kansas....

...I've got so many identities, even I lose track of them all!

73 Killgore Trout  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:25:03pm

re: #52 realwest

Hey Killgore, did you read the two customer reviews - pretty damned good!


It looks very interesting. I've bookmarked it but I'm not sure if I'll ever get around to reading it. I'm way behind on my reading.

74 zombie  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:26:25pm

The truth is, I really am that absent-minded. Once, in college, I signed up for a required class, went for two sessions, then completely forgot about it and never went again -- the entire thing just slipped right out of my mind. Weird, hunh? Luckily, I found out the next semester that I had been automatically dropped, since the prof assumed I meant to withdraw from the class and had just neglected to tell him. Saved my ass from getting an F.

I took it again the following year, to great embarrassment.

75 pat  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:26:37pm

65 NYNana. I posted 2 little articles at Death By 1000 Papercuts, (google) they are a few days old. And since i do not really have a computer can not do more for a while. One was obama Fitness, The other On Turkey Torture, those are key words I think. I would like your opinion.

76 ophidian  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:26:50pm

Powerline's take on Watching the Watchdogs is here.

77 Intrepid  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:26:55pm

re: #72 zombie

Oh yeah, that's right, I've got that professor gig in Kansas....

...I've got so many identities, even I lose track of them all!

Hey, a zombie's gotta make a buck somehow! A tenured college gig can pay decent bucks, even if it is in Kansas!

78 realwest  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:27:25pm

re: #54 zombie Yes, indeed you are the object of academic analysis! And it's truly well done analysis of some truly special work on your part! Indeed your work was prominently and heartily congratulated on #20 above!

79 lostlakehiker  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:27:41pm

What is most interesting here is that an academic even dares to act like an academic and use logic and evidence in this politically fraught realm.

This is good academic work, to be sure. But it's also courageous.

Battlefield courage isn't the only kind. It takes courage, of sorts, to put a career at risk when one could quietly walk on by on the other side and no one would ever notice that you'd chickened out.

Although the author studiously avoids concluding that the photojournalism in question is systemically fraudulent, he assembles so much evidence that the conclusion is pretty much inescapable. He also credits the blogosphere with a degree of rationality. Well, yes, but that is a daring observation.

80 NY Nana  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:28:30pm

re: #65 NY Nana

The 20 21-month old thinks he is sending me emails...hilarious! Yipes! He will be 22 months old in a week.

Note to me: your math sucks!

81 realwest  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:28:54pm

re: #71 ophidian Thank you! And hey - seriously - I hope you can come out on LGF more often!

82 zombie  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:29:05pm

re: #78 realwest

Yes, indeed you are the object of academic analysis! And it's truly well done analysis of some truly special work on your part! Indeed your work was prominently and heartily congratulated on #20 above!

I saw that! Now you've got me blushing.

83 Racer X  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:30:31pm

re: #74 zombie

Once, in college, I signed up for a required class, went for two sessions, then completely forgot about it and never went again -- the entire thing just slipped right out of my mind. Weird, hunh?


Weed?

84 slokat  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:30:57pm

...Blushing Zombies

I think I saw that band once in the 80's?

85 NY Nana  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:31:25pm

re: #75 pat

I will google them...if I can still see straight!

My email is blue if you should need it.

Good luck with the computer mess. My Dell (rhymes with Hell for a reason) scares me a lot!

86 Intrepid  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:32:01pm

re: #80 NY Nana

Note to me: your math sucks!

NY Nana - is he the one who keeps sending out all those angels hugging teddy bears w/scriptures mass e-mails, with an encouragement to send it to 10 of your closest friends?

I swear, if I get another one of those I'm gonna scream!

87 realwest  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:33:29pm

re: #82 zombie Well heck, it's the least I can do for you - LGF Operative and proprietor of zombietime, who has given us all significant insights through not only your work cited in Dr. Cooper's article, but in so many other pieces of work. Can't thank you enough - now STOP blushing! LOL!

88 slokat  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:33:58pm

Y'all were doing theme songs the other day... I'm partial to this one Zombie

89 wolfie  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:34:57pm

re: #72 zombie

Oh yeah, that's right, I've got that professor gig in Kansas....

...I've got so many identities, even I lose track of them all!

re: #77 Intrepid

Hey, a zombie's gotta make a buck somehow! A tenured college gig can pay decent bucks, even if it is in Kansas!

Marshall University is in bitter, clingy, typical white West Virginia ! A fine month for WVA, I'd say!

Don't know why Obama doesn't like them. They have a Waffle House on practically every corner.

90 zombie  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:35:17pm

re: #83 Racer X

Weed?

Nope. No drugs involved. My main problem was that I was taking way too many classes and juggling way too many other life responsibilities simultaneously. I look back now and wonder hell in the hell I did it. I basically never slept for a couple years.

91 ophidian  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:35:20pm

re: #81 realwest

Thanks. I am a long-time lurker (and I do lurk quite a bit), but I don't have time to post much. In fact, it's time for bed; I'll need to read the paper later.

92 jaunte  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:35:34pm

Good morning all; time for me to hit the hay.

93 realwest  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:37:06pm

re: #79 lostlakehiker
Good post - really. I hadn't frankly thought about that until you made that comment.
Thanks a lot!

94 zombie  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:37:13pm

re: #89 wolfie

Marshall University is in bitter, clingy, typical white West Virginia !

Well that explains it! No wonder I lost track of that job. I was looking in the wrong state.

95 Psaturn  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:37:35pm

re: #89 wolfie

Wow...I saw quite a few Waffle House in Florida. I did not get a chance to go but my friends did. They said it was awful.

Oh well.

96 zombie  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:38:45pm

re: #87 realwest

My work is not done until I stop Obama from getting elected. Which is exactly what I plan to do.

97 redc1c4  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:40:33pm

re: #96 zombie

My work is not done until I stop Obama from getting elected. Which is exactly what I plan to do.

you racist!

98 Intrepid  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:42:57pm

re: #89 wolfie

Marshall University is in bitter, clingy, typical white West Virginia ! A fine month for WVA, I'd say!

Don't know why Obama doesn't like them. They have a Waffle House on practically every corner.

Dang, Wolfie - you've got me hankering now for an order of hash browns w/cheese and onions, with a side of toast!

99 Winslow  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:42:58pm
He analyzes media fraud;
She leaves her readers overawed.
It spells the propagandists’ doom,
By blogging in its living room.

He now uncloaks the Red Cross hoax;
She lays it bare with masterstrokes.
It’s zombietime, let forth a yell!
That tireless zombie infidel!

100 realwest  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:44:07pm

re: #51 Intrepid Well I can honestly say, after having been here since, iirc, December of 2003 - before registration - that there hasn't been a week go by that I haven't learned something new and valuable out here (well, except when I had the misfortune of missing LGF for about six weeks total due to hospitalizations). Indeed, I'm very tempted to say that it's rare that a day goes by when I don't learn something of value out here.

101 wolfie  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:45:20pm

re: #95 Psaturn

Wow...I saw quite a few Waffle House in Florida. I did not get a chance to go but my friends did. They said it was awful.

Oh well.

Well, the waffles are a little bit rubbery.
Oh, all right. They are very rubbery.
But the sausage is pretty good and the jukeboxes always have at least a couple of vintage George Jones & Merle Haggard songs.

102 realwest  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:45:37pm

re: #96 zombie Now that's the best news I've heard all week! GO for it!
And if y'all need a little research help or anything, my nic's in blue!

103 zombie  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:46:01pm

re: #99 Winslow

Quite accurate -- except I blog from my hot tub, not my living room!

104 DesertSage  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:46:19pm

Obama, his Socialist agenda and his Marxist stormtroopers need to be stopped!

We need to get it together...because there's something in the air!

105 Killian Bundy  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:47:03pm

Burning missionaries' New Testaments in Israel?

/hmm . . .

106 zombie  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:47:27pm

re: #102 realwest

Now that's the best news I've heard all week! GO for it!
And if y'all need a little research help or anything, my nic's in blue!

When the time comes, I'll be asking a lot of people -- you included -- for help!

107 kay1212  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:48:55pm

The article is excellent. My congrats to all involved. I am inordinately and ridiculously proud to be the kay1212 that Charles so kindly hat tipped for using "fauxtography" to mean fake photos as noted in the first footnote in the article.

[What actually happened was my painters had just finished some columns in my entryway and I still had faux painting on my mind. When I was reading the amazing coverage in LGF and the obviously altered photos, the phrase was obvious and popped out. Still...I am honored to have played the tiniest bit part in the great media oversight team, led by Charles Johnson, that is LGF.]

108 realwest  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:48:56pm

re: #104 DesertSage Hey Sage! I sorta prefer this one:

109 realwest  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:49:58pm

re: #106 zombie You've got it!

110 wolfie  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:50:24pm

re: #98 Intrepid

Dang, Wolfie - you've got me hankering now for an order of hash browns w/cheese and onions, with a side of toast!

Lord, I almost forgot about those! When I was pregnant w/ my 2nd kid I was seriously addicted to those hash browns. I used to sneak over there in the middle of the night to get 'em. Really! All the waitresses knew me by name and would put on a little extra cheese and butter. :D

Haven't eaten since then....over 15 years ago!

111 realwest  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:51:31pm

Well all y'all it's really late again for me and again I have a bunch of chores to get done tomorrow, so I'm going to get some sleep!
I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you down the road.

Goodnight, All.

112 slokat  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:51:36pm

...result from google for Zombie in a Hot Tub

113 Psaturn  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:51:58pm

re: #106 zombie

When the time comes, I'll be asking a lot of people -- you included -- for help!

Feel free to ask for my help too!

The area I can help is the Christian theology aspect, specially with United Church of Christ / Liberation Theology / Rev. Wright...

114 DesertSage  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:52:02pm

It seems like a dream....Obama has half the country Hypnotized.

115 Psaturn  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:53:03pm

re: #107 kay1212

The article is excellent. My congrats to all involved. I am inordinately and ridiculously proud to be the kay1212 that Charles so kindly hat tipped for using "fauxtography" to mean fake photos as noted in the first footnote in the article.

[What actually happened was my painters had just finished some columns in my entryway and I still had faux painting on my mind. When I was reading the amazing coverage in LGF and the obviously altered photos, the phrase was obvious and popped out. Still...I am honored to have played the tiniest bit part in the great media oversight team, led by Charles Johnson, that is LGF.]

Wow! So YOU are the one that came up with the term !

Nice to meet ya!

116 Clemente  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:55:56pm

Them were interesting times.

Meh. I do wish Dr. Shackleford would correct his attribution for the F-16 enlargement with the red highlights - it was our own Middle_Earth, of course.

Still, fond memories of MSM follies.

117 zombie  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:57:33pm

re: #107 kay1212

The article is excellent. My congrats to all involved. I am inordinately and ridiculously proud to be the kay1212 that Charles so kindly hat tipped for using "fauxtography" to mean fake photos as noted in the first footnote in the article.

[What actually happened was my painters had just finished some columns in my entryway and I still had faux painting on my mind. When I was reading the amazing coverage in LGF and the obviously altered photos, the phrase was obvious and popped out. Still...I am honored to have played the tiniest bit part in the great media oversight team, led by Charles Johnson, that is LGF.]

The coiner of "fauxtography"! A legend walks among us!

Your (nick)name will now go down in history.

We are not worthy!

118 kay1212  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:57:53pm

re: #115 Psaturn

Nice to meet you too. I'm normally a lurker. I usually reach a thread after several hundred comments are already posted. Still....I rarely miss a day. There is so much to learn.

119 kay1212  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:59:01pm

re: #117 zombie


Zombie, your work is amazing and I bow in admiration. I am not worthy.

120 NY Nana  Wed, May 21, 2008 10:59:35pm

re: #86 Intrepid

Not guilty! ;) He types in some sort of code that I have yet to break! I have them saved, and am thinking of sending them to the Secret Service or Mossad.

He is innocent, I tell you!

/I get all the boring spam.

121 wolfie  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:01:17pm

re: #110 wolfie

Haven't eaten the hash browns, I mean!

122 wolfie  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:02:15pm

re: #107 kay1212

Congratulations! :)

123 NY Nana  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:02:31pm

re: #114 DesertSage

Thanks, Sage! You know how much I ♥ you, in a Grandmotherly way! You just did a mitzvah, and I am falling asleep! ;)

G'nite, all.

124 wolfie  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:03:46pm

re: #112 slokat

...result from google for Zombie in a Hot Tub

Omigod! We finally have a picture of zombie! :O

125 NY Nana  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:06:45pm

re: #75 pat

Got them! Will read in the morning. Thanks!

Sweet dreams.

126 Killian Bundy  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:10:54pm

2 arrested as explosives seized at nuclear plant

Sweden - Two people were arrested Wednesday after a worker was stopped at the entrance of a Swedish nuclear plant with a bag containing traces of an explosive which has been used in terror attacks.

. . .

"They told us a welder who was going to perform a job there had been stopped in a random security check. He had been carrying small amounts of the highly explosive material TATP," Karlsson said.

Well gee, where's the reporting been on this?

/nothing to see here I guess, move along

127 astronmr20  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:11:37pm

re: #36 pat

jaunte, I am concerned only as a runner. Ipod. only 12 people have my cell # and I don't know how to use it any way.

RW, I have no idea, Michelle attracts a different group than LGF. Let us say that Mandy, Trigger Girlie, Ginn, Bebe Boobs Destroy, tfk, song and dance, etc would be considered abnormal. Here?......they are the gang.

Why? The Ipod gives off no RF. Headphones have no RF.

128 astronmr20  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:13:35pm

re: #126 Killian Bundy

There have been a few posts of this in the spinoff links... looks pretty scary.

And yes.. haven't see it picked up yet. However I have a feeling Charles is holding onto it and giving it the 'old 48-hour rule.

Also, no names of suspects yet, if you know what I mean.

129 Psaturn  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:16:45pm

re: #128 astronmr20

Yeah...it is always a good idea not to jump on bandwagon until you know the facts...

It is curious that they would not describe the alleged law breaker at all...could they be native Swede? Maybe one of those Baden Baden gang?

130 charolais  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:17:33pm

Off topic, sorry. Who can help me find a picture, I thought I saw it here on LGF yesterday.

It was of the defendant in a knifing case in Frankfurt, who had stabbed a rabbi and nearly killed him. His sentence, given last Monday, was only three and a half years, and so he was photographed laughing it up hysterically with his homies outside the courthouse.

Taken with an extreme wide angle lens, almost a fisheye.

If anyone can help me find that photo, I'd be much obliged,

131 DesertSage  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:18:27pm

Battle Hymn of the Republic

Obama must be defeated!

132 least  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:18:27pm

re: #105 Killian Bundy

Very accurate picture of "religion vs relationship"
Very accurate picture of zeal without knowledge: USAT article has a quote from an Israeli who says that such book burning is a "commandment"

I have searched The Tanakh and couldn't find such a commandment.
I did, however, find this in Isaiah: "This people honor Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me"

However, in Gaza, the ROP burns Christian books and shoots Christians - an example of extreme zeal and practicing what is preached.

133 wolfie  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:19:40pm

re: #126 Killian Bundy

Residue of the stuff on his hands?!
Egads.
A story to keep an eye on, that's for sure.

134 bosforus  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:20:16pm

re: #126 Killian Bundy

If anything, it will be reported as another reason why we shouldn't go nuclear.

135 astronmr20  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:21:01pm

re: #134 bosforus

If anything, it will be reported as another reason why we shouldn't go nuclear.

Exactly. By the same people who tell us there is no terrorist threat!

136 pat  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:21:02pm

#127 Astro, because the causation implies the exterior ear, sound as opposed to RD. A build up of protective tissue would likely be the exact response of the body to recognized stimulae. There is almost no research on unobservable biologic interaction to radiation, radiowaves, microwaves etc. And most of such studies are selective.

137 Edward Halper  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:21:47pm

My thanks to all who were involves in uncovering these photo frauds.

We need to remember that these shams are the ones that can be uncovered because the photos contain evidence of being doctored. The vast majority of the reporting that comes out the region cannot be investigated in this way. We can surmise that these phony reporters thought that could get poorly doctored photos past the news agencies because they they had experience getting sham stories past the news agencies.

What's happened to journalism?

138 Killian Bundy  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:22:50pm

re: #128 astronmr20

It just kind of suprised me.

/it was a blurb in Investor's Business Daily

139 astronmr20  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:24:57pm

re: #136 pat

#127 Astro, because the causation implies the exterior ear, sound as opposed to RD. A build up of protective tissue would likely be the exact response of the body to recognized stimulae. There is almost no research on unobservable biologic interaction to radiation, radiowaves, microwaves etc. And most of such studies are selective.

Yes, the research in regards to RF affecting human tissue is spotty (it didn't stop the Europeans for enacting ridiculous restrictions and practices, though). However the only known problematic effect of noise by your ear is either hearing loss or tinnitus.

By the way, I'm an RF engineer (:

140 bosforus  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:25:10pm

re: #135 astronmr20

Exactly. By the same people who tell us there is no terrorist threat!

They'll kill two birds with one stone with this story by ignoring the terrorism angle.

141 astronmr20  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:26:20pm

re: #138 Killian Bundy

Surprised the crap out of me too... Even with the MSM being the MSM, makes no sense to me that this has not been picked up by many more news outlets... even if it's somewhat of a false alarm.

142 gop_patriot  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:27:50pm

re: #130 charolais

This probably isn't the one you're talking about, but it does show the defendant's friends laughing as they lead him away from the courtroom. It's the 2nd picture, click the arrow under the first picture of the Rabbi who was stabbed to get there.

143 Killian Bundy  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:28:09pm

re: #132 least

However, in Gaza, the ROP burns Christian books and shoots Christians - an example of extreme zeal and practicing what is preached.

Well, there's that.

/it just seemed kind of extreme for Israel, Christian missionaries pass their books out, that's what they do, they don't force anyone to accept them in the first place

144 redc1c4  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:29:01pm

re: #124 wolfie

Omigod! We finally have a picture of zombie! :O

i'm pretty sure putting a zombie in a hot tub would wind up looking like this.

145 wolfie  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:29:43pm

re: #132 least

Very accurate picture of "religion vs relationship"
Very accurate picture of zeal without knowledge: USAT article has a quote from an Israeli who says that such book burning is a "commandment"

I have searched The Tanakh and couldn't find such a commandment.
I did, however, find this in Isaiah: "This people honor Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me"

However, in Gaza, the ROP burns Christian books and shoots Christians - an example of extreme zeal and practicing what is preached.


I realize I may be a bit paranoid about this, but I almost find this story annoying. I appreciate USAT reporting on it, and it is dismaying. Yet I can't help but think that , if it had happened anywhere but Israel, we wouldn't be hearing about it at all.
There is a great deal of violence against Christians in Africa and Asia now, but the MSM ignores 90% of it.

146 Intrepid  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:30:11pm

re: #110 wolfie

Lord, I almost forgot about those! When I was pregnant w/ my 2nd kid I was seriously addicted to those hash browns. I used to sneak over there in the middle of the night to get 'em. Really! All the waitresses knew me by name and would put on a little extra cheese and butter. :D

Haven't eaten since then....over 15 years ago!

Hee - I'm guessing your teen is doing well, regardless of his/her gestation meal?!

Gotta love Waffle House - they are open 24/7.

147 kay1212  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:30:20pm

re: #137 Edward Halper

My thanks to all who were involves in uncovering these photo frauds.

We need to remember that these shams are the ones that can be uncovered because the photos contain evidence of being doctored. The vast majority of the reporting that comes out the region cannot be investigated in this way. We can surmise that these phony reporters thought that could get poorly doctored photos past the news agencies because they they had experience getting sham stories past the news agencies.

What's happened to journalism?

I think the same thing that has happened to Wall Street, mortgage lenders, and others. They are lazy. And sometimes, they have an overriding agenda. My own skill set is in the finance area and I've uncovered many things by slogging through SEC filings that are purposely obtuse. So let's all continue to support Charles and Zombie and others when the truth needs ferreting out. Keep digging lizards.

148 redc1c4  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:31:01pm

everything you might want to know about TATP.

i especially like how they give ways to make it with commonly available ingredients......... WTF were they thinking?

149 wolfie  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:33:16pm

re: #144 redc1c4

i'm pretty sure putting a zombie in a hot tub would wind up looking like this.

Blasphemy against the undead! Blasphemy, I say!

150 astronmr20  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:34:10pm

re: #148 redc1c4

everything you might want to know about TATP.

i especially like how they give ways to make it with commonly available ingredients......... WTF were they thinking?

Notice how the article says "use in crime," rather than "use in terrorism," or "use in murder."

151 Fenway_Nation  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:35:43pm

re: #148 redc1c4

everything you might want to know about TATP.

i especially like how they give ways to make it with commonly available ingredients......... WTF were they thinking?

Not enough 'workplace accidents' in Gaza lately?

152 BlueCanuck  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:37:04pm

re: #144 redc1c4

i'm pretty sure putting a zombie in a hot tub would wind up looking like this.

Oh great, now you have ruined my appetitte for soups and stews. Bad red, very bad red.

/only reason for the down ding. :p

153 Killian Bundy  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:38:17pm

re: #134 bosforus

If anything, it will be reported as another reason why we shouldn't go nuclear.

Well, then were going to be energy [expletive deleted] in the long run.

/nuclear plants are actually really hard targets for terrorists on foot, child's play for the B-2 or F-22

154 redc1c4  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:42:13pm

re: #149 wolfie

Blasphemy against the undead! Blasphemy, I say!

what? it's vegetarian in the *best* Bay Area tradition...... %-)

155 Killian Bundy  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:43:23pm

re: #148 redc1c4

i especially like how they give ways to make it with commonly available ingredients......... WTF were they thinking?

I didn't see that or I would have reported it. Chemical or electrical bombmaking links/tips aren't particularly appreciated by Charles.

/your call

156 redc1c4  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:44:31pm

re: #152 BlueCanuck

Oh great, now you have ruined my appetitte for soups and stews. Bad red, very bad red.

/only reason for the down ding. :p

you're just mad because someone took a picture of you going out to get the paper..... you look a bit cold. %-)

157 BlueCanuck  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:45:27pm

re: #156 redc1c4

yeah, I forgot my longjohns that day.

158 abolitionist  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:46:07pm

re: #130 charolais

Off topic, sorry. Who can help me find a picture, I thought I saw it here on LGF yesterday.

It was of the defendant in a knifing case in Frankfurt, who had stabbed a rabbi and nearly killed him. His sentence, given last Monday, was only three and a half years, and so he was photographed laughing it up hysterically with his homies outside the courthouse.

Taken with an extreme wide angle lens, almost a fisheye.

If anyone can help me find that photo, I'd be much obliged,

Don't know about the wideangle/fisheye part, but look here, and just below the 1st pic, and click to view next [2nd] image.
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
(Same 2 pics both places.)

159 astronmr20  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:46:10pm

re: #155 Killian Bundy


Relax.

It's a wiki. And splodeydopes know where to find 'splodin instructions anyway.

160 Racer X  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:46:14pm

Let's Say Thanks - in support of our troops.

Program sponsored by Xerox to send a printed postcard to U.S. military personnel stationed overseas. Easy to do and free.

161 redc1c4  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:46:40pm

re: #155 Killian Bundy

I didn't see that or I would have reported it. Chemical or electrical bombmaking links/tips aren't particularly appreciated by Charles.

/your call

read the "Accidental Byproduct" section.... it's not completely spelled out, but there's enough info there for someone to try, either for fun or maliciously, and if they had some chemistry training......

/especially if you read a few other articles for different hints.

162 charolais  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:47:20pm

re: #142 gop_patriot

thank you for the quick response, but that isn't the one I was looking for... in the meantime I also found [Link: www.bild.de...] , however that is also not the one of the Afghan-born perp laughing it up hysterically.

As I said, it was an extreme wide angle photograph. Strange. I could almost swear I saw it here first.

Thank you again.

163 wolfie  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:47:25pm

re: #154 redc1c4

what? it's vegetarian in the *best* Bay Area tradition...... %-)

LOL !
Hmm........an excellent question to examine in philosophy class.
Would a zombie be classified as meat or veggie?
I say meat. They're the walking dead, y'no.

164 astronmr20  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:47:38pm

re: #158 abolitionist

Those pics REALLY make me want to smack those smiles off their sick faces.

/sorry... that shit enrages me. I mustn't let it, but it really does.

165 wolfie  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:48:57pm

re: #156 redc1c4

you're just mad because someone took a picture of you going out to get the paper..... you look a bit cold. %-)

Ah, yes. Canada in August!

166 Killian Bundy  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:52:30pm

re: #159 astronmr20

Relax.

It's a wiki. And splodeydopes know where to find 'splodin instructions anyway.

Probably at least 20% of Lizards know how to make improvised explosives and most of the rest could easily find it online.

/that doesn't mean Charles likes the information linked or reproduced on LGF, just sayin', I recall one thread on basic circuits that drew deletions and an admonishment

167 redc1c4  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:54:26pm

i found a link to a page that purports to be how to make TATP.....

also, since i googled to find it, i'm sure i'm now on a list somewhere.

168 victor_yugo  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:57:15pm

re: #154 redc1c4

what? it's vegetarian in the *best* Bay Area tradition...... %-)

In well-trained hands, tofu is quite delicious. It's one of the few things I miss about the Bay Area.

Fresh Choice on Mountain View's El Camino Real has the best vegetarian menu I've ever had, bar none. I always enjoyed spending my hard-earned ca$h there. If you go, check out the roasted garlic soup.

169 wolfie  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:57:50pm

re: #164 astronmr20

I'd like to smack the judge first.
You plunge a knife into someone's abdomen and it's not attempted manslaughter?
Self-defense?! A strong young man like that?

170 gop_patriot  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:59:07pm

re: #167 redc1c4

Oh, please, red. Your name's probably been on "a list" for years- with at least four check marks, and 2 notations beside it. ROFL ;)

171 redc1c4  Wed, May 21, 2008 11:59:54pm

re: #168 victor_yugo

In well-trained hands, tofu is quite delicious. It's one of the few things I miss about the Bay Area.

Fresh Choice on Mountain View's El Camino Real has the best vegetarian menu I've ever had, bar none. I always enjoyed spending my hard-earned ca$h there. If you go, check out the roasted garlic soup.

that's a long drive for a snack: i live in LA.

besides, i'm a firm believer in the 4 basic food groups:
red meat
alcohol
caffeine
stress

172 redc1c4  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:00:46am

re: #170 gop_patriot

Oh, please, red. Your name's probably been on "a list" for years- with at least four check marks, and 2 notations beside it. ROFL ;)

well, Santa *does* leave me coal every year........ %-)

173 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:01:08am

re: #74 zombie

The truth is, I really am that absent-minded. Once, in college, I signed up for a required class, went for two sessions, then completely forgot about it and never went again -- the entire thing just slipped right out of my mind. Weird, hunh? Luckily, I found out the next semester that I had been automatically dropped, since the prof assumed I meant to withdraw from the class and had just neglected to tell him. Saved my ass from getting an F.

I took it again the following year, to great embarrassment.

This actually describes a recurring bad dream of mine. Every so often I dream that I didn't really graduate college because there was a class I flat-out forgot to attend. In the dream, I usually find out by looking at my schedule and realizing that I've neglected to attend some very important class. At this point I usually wake up, as the sick feeling of anxiety and being left behind is strong enough to disturb me into consciousness.

The roots of this anxiety are very real, as it took me seven years and attendance at three different post-secondary institutions in two different states to finally wrap up a Bachelor's (my post-high school life was a bit complicated).

I've always envied my friends who went right from high school to a nice neat four years of college, complete with dorm life, off-campus apartments, friends, partying, and girls, and right into a career relevant to their area of study.

174 redc1c4  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:01:47am

re: #170 gop_patriot

BTW: you just had your LGF birthday..... dancing rodents!

175 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:06:39am

re: #117 zombie

The coiner of "fauxtography"! A legend walks among us!

Your (nick)name will now go down in history.

We are not worthy!

He's in interesting company. I always got a laugh out of the way Saddam Hussein actually contributed to the English language, by giving us the phrase "mother of all (fill in the blank)". There are many other recent examples but that's the one that always comes to my mind.

I'm a bit disappointed my word "Mohammicide" didn't take off. (Mohammicide is when someone is killed by a Muslim for criticising or poking fun at their "prophet").

176 wolfie  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:09:06am

re: #168 victor_yugo

In well-trained hands, tofu is quite delicious.

So is possum!
(VERY well-trained, though.)

177 Killian Bundy  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:10:31am

Crude Scapegoats

The Day Lebanon Died

Google's TerrorTube

McCain Gets It On Latin America

All on one IBD editorial page, plus a cartoon. This is what the capitalist movers and shakers on the U.S. economy will be reading today.

/the communist/socialists will be reading the NYT, daily America in a nutshell

178 wolfie  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:12:47am

re: #175 Pawn of the Oppressor

Mohammicide is a very good one!
Some lizard.....I think it was scaramouche.....came up with Wahabilicious for anything a fanatic Muslim would find delightful. I like that one.

179 gop_patriot  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:13:49am

re: #174 redc1c4

Ha, I missed it, par for the course this month.

I have 3800+ comments, over 2 years- you've been here since last September and have almost as many. I don't think I commented very much at all until recently. I was intimidated at first. LOL

180 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:15:30am

I've read the whole article, and it's just a great comprehensive analysis of the entire issue. I greatly respect his very complimentary portrayal of the cross-checking of facts and notable self-restraint exhibited by those bloggers who were reporting on this stories. It was in sharp contrast to his implied message about the damage to mainstream credibity this has incurred.

We are the big dogs now. Let's not go chew up every chihuahua out there, but let's not back down from injustice either. It's was too easy to become complacent, like what I'm afraid that much of the American voting public has become. Because if they had been paying the kind of attention that we have to this election, things would be very different right now.

181 gop_patriot  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:16:06am

re: #177 Killian Bundy

I love Michael Ramirez.

182 Fenway_Nation  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:19:37am

re: #178 wolfie

Mohammicide is a very good one!
Some lizard.....I think it was scaramouche.....came up with Wahabilicious for anything a fanatic Muslim would find delightful. I like that one.


Seetheapolooza remains a favorite of mine.

183 gop_patriot  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:20:19am

re: #180 really grumpy big dog Johnson

It's was too easy to become complacent, like what I'm afraid that much of the American voting public has become. Because if they had been paying the kind of attention that we have to this election, things would be very different right now.

Well said.

184 Killian Bundy  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:20:34am

Potato-Potatoe, What About Obama Gaffes?

MICHELLE MALKIN get's an IBD byline.

/I just can't believe Obama will survive the next five months and get elected

185 victor_yugo  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:23:12am

re: #171 redc1c4

red meat
alcohol
caffeine
stress

No, no no no no....

It's:

sugar
salt
grease
caffeine

186 wolfie  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:25:09am

re: #182 Fenway_Nation

Seetheapolooza remains a favorite of mine.

:D !

187 BlueCanuck  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:26:41am

re: #185 victor_yugo

No, no no no no....

It's:

sugar
salt
grease
caffeine

And you got it wrong it's:
Caffeine
Carbs
Sugar
Salt
/gamers four food groups.

188 victor_yugo  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:31:50am

re: #187 BlueCanuck

And you got it wrong it's:
Caffeine
Carbs
Sugar
Salt
/gamers four food groups.

Sugar is carbs!

That's like saying

Solar, not Is Nuclear!

/thanks, whoever posted that months ago

189 zombie  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:33:58am

No no no, the four basic food groups are:

kombucha
xylitol
wasabi
acai

Where have you people been?

190 Psaturn  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:34:18am

re: #184 Killian Bundy

Potato-Potatoe, What About Obama Gaffes?

MICHELLE MALKIN get's an IBD byline.

/I just can't believe Obama will survive the next five months and get elected

Well there are quite a few voters who think Obama represent change and a change for the positive.

Of course many people could not believe that the US voted in President Bush in the last election, specially folks in the large cities such as San Francisco and NYC.

191 gop_patriot  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:35:13am

re: #189 zombie

LOL! Where I live, it's

pork barbecue
biscuits
iced sweet tea
buttah

;)

192 Psaturn  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:36:07am

re: #189 zombie

No no no, the four basic food groups are:

kombucha
xylitol
wasabi
acai

Where have you people been?

Boy, you must have been living in the Bay Area too long!

LOL

Do you really like Kombucha? I think it tastes nasty.

I tried raw milk kefir...the texture and the taste was enough for me to gasp....

My roommate said after trying it, "you got to be kidding!"

193 Intrepid  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:36:39am

re: #191 gop_patriot

LOL! Where I live, it's

pork barbecue
biscuits
iced sweet tea
buttah

;)

Yep, that's me too. Although I try to throw in a salad or two in the mix.

194 Psaturn  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:38:09am

re: #191 gop_patriot

Over here in the Southern California desert it is:

Fish tacos

Tostada salad

tortilla chips and pico de gallo salsa

smoothie

195 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:39:24am

re: #183 gop_patriot

Well said.

I could have said it better, too, if it wasn't so damn late. I get lazy and avoid preview, but even when I do, I still make sentence construction gaffes and use words poorly. It's not my normal mode, but my malfunction mode sometimes gets the better of me.

196 BlueCanuck  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:39:33am

re: #188 victor_yugo

LOL, okay you got me. Hmmm, guess I can't use starches either.

/thinking hard

197 redc1c4  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:41:22am

re: #187 BlueCanuck

And you got it wrong it's:
Caffeine
Carbs
Sugar
Salt
/gamers four food groups.

and here i thought you're list would read
Tim Hortons
Back Bacon
Molsen's
Poutine

198 redc1c4  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:42:41am

re: #196 BlueCanuck

LOL, okay you got me. Hmmm, guess I can't use starches either.

/thinking hard

stand by for explosion!

199 Neo Con since 9-11  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:43:45am

Four food groups:
Bombay Sapphire Gin
Earl Gray
Catch Eucalyptus
Fruit cup--->

200 gop_patriot  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:49:19am

re: #199 Neo Con since 9-11

Fruit cup--->

LOL!

/what's catch eucalyptus?

201 redc1c4  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:50:12am

re: #200 gop_patriot

LOL!

/what's catch eucalyptus?

hard on the hands if they use too big a chunk!

202 BlueCanuck  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:50:52am

re: #197 redc1c4

Only during the playoffs, and only with Canadian teams.

203 littleoldlady  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:51:48am

Cheesesteaks
Scrapple
Tastykakes

Okay, fruitcup.

204 Neo Con since 9-11  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:52:23am

re: #200 gop_patriot

LOL!

/what's catch eucalyptus?

Finest tasting, least lethal tobacco product currently made. It tastes like a tic tac but it helps you quit smoking

205 redc1c4  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:52:37am

there's something wrong with the DSL line, as i keep getting intermittent time out issues that self resolve in a few minutes.

besides, we're supposed to be going to Hollyweird for music gig tomorrow night, so i prolly should get some extra sleep.

L8r!

/PS: let me know how big the Blue Cannuck explosion is %-)

206 Sprite  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:52:55am

re: #184 Killian Bundy

Good for Michelle. And that's just scratching the surface.

Unfortunately, I believe Obama will end up bamboozling his way into the White House.

re: #189 zombie

Zombie, I have admired your work for a long time now. However, there are some who would include arugula and waffles.

207 gop_patriot  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:53:28am

re: #205 redc1c4

Goodnight, red. :) Have fun tomorrow night!

208 Fenway_Nation  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:53:29am

re: #202 BlueCanuck

Only during the playoffs, and only with Canadian teams.

So in other words, they hardly see the light of day.

209 gop_patriot  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:53:59am

re: #204 Neo Con since 9-11

Ah! Thanks :)

210 BlueCanuck  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:54:15am

re: #205 redc1c4


/PS: let me know how big the Blue Cannuck explosion is %-)

I don't know, but it may measure in micro-tonnes.

/not that worked up.

211 abolitionist  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:54:16am

re: #162 charolais

thank you for the quick response, but that isn't the one I was looking for... in the meantime I also found [Link: www.bild.de...] , however that is also not the one of the Afghan-born perp laughing it up hysterically.

As I said, it was an extreme wide angle photograph. Strange. I could almost swear I saw it here first.

Thank you again.

Ok, found it: [Link: www.faz.net...]
Found the link in the comments at JihadWatch: [Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]

Here is a picture of this §%?!§§?%$! just after trial:
[Link: tinyurl.com...]
212 Sharmuta  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:54:34am

re: #203 littleoldlady

Cheesesteaks
Scrapple
Tastykakes

Okay, fruitcup.

And Gamey Troll Buttocks!

213 zombie  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:55:04am

re: #192 Psaturn

Do you really like Kombucha? I think it tastes nasty.

Actually, I really really like kombucha. I find it extremely refreshing. This company makes/distributes the best kombucha in the US, in my opinion. But when I get a chance, I'll shop at a great Ukrainian corner market in San Francisco and stock up on authentic Ukrainian kvass, kombucha-style. Yeah baby.

214 Sprite  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:55:08am

re: #203 littleoldlady

Scrapple! Just today I was checking prices for Habbersett, which is shipped on dry ice. Yummmm.

Hello lol :)

215 BlueCanuck  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:55:10am

re: #208 Fenway_Nation

So in other words, they hardly see the light of day.

Oh, you wound my national pride. Unfortunately I am not a good Canadian. Don't watch hockey.

216 littleoldlady  Thu, May 22, 2008 12:59:10am

Sharmuta! :-)

Not too much difference between scrapple and gamey buttocks.

Sprite! :-)

You ordered scrapple on purpose?!

/I thought it's only what they give you with eggs at the diner - whether you ask for it or not.

217 Killian Bundy  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:01:16am

re: #206 Sprite

Unfortunately, I believe Obama will end up bamboozling his way into the White House.

/I'm not so sure, here's five jawdropping links with five months to go, we've only just begun

218 Sprite  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:05:24am

re: #216 littleoldlady

You bet! I was raised on scrapple 'n eggs in the south. My Mom was from Philadelphia.

I've ordered Habbersett from California to Idaho for the last almost 30 years :)

219 gop_patriot  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:06:29am

re: #216 littleoldlady

Ha, I thought you were talking about Snapple, and wondered why it'd be like gamey buttocks or served with eggs. LOL

220 gop_patriot  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:08:10am

re: #219 gop_patriot

Cause I'd never heard of scrapple. ;)

221 littleoldlady  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:09:03am

re: #219 gop_patriot

gop! :-)

I suppose you could eat scrapple with Snapple.

/would you eat it in a box?

Yuck.

222 Sprite  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:10:37am

re: #217 Killian Bundy

It's a shame to waste such a beautiful song on him.

If the American public was aware of your links/the truth, I might agree with you. However, the MSM will never allow it to be disseminated.

223 Killian Bundy  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:12:36am

Scrapple.

/food/humor

224 Fenway_Nation  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:13:04am

re: #215 BlueCanuck

Oh, you wound my national pride. Unfortunately I am not a good Canadian. Don't watch hockey.

For what its worth, that four-letter network in Connecticut is looking more and more like they want the NHL back. They have none other than Don Cherry on staff as a commentator.

/You know....the Don Cherry that put together a very moving tribute to the fallen Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan the same weekend FOX's The Simpsons took it upon themselves to demean American servicemen and women ON VETERAN'S DAY!

225 charolais  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:13:08am

re: #211 abolitionist

THat's it! Good detective work abolitionist! 23 years old, already a record as long as his arm, and a hero in the eyes of his homies!

226 Killian Bundy  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:13:46am

re: #221 littleoldlady

would you eat it in a box?

/would you eat it with a fox?

227 littleoldlady  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:14:00am

re: #223 Killian Bundy

Killian! :-)

There. You see? "Hog offal".

a/k/a Hog Awful

228 Neo Con since 9-11  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:15:22am

re: #226 Killian Bundy

/would you eat it with a fox?


Would you eat it off a c.... [Deleted]

229 gop_patriot  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:18:05am

re: #221 littleoldlady

What is it, like homemade Spam? :X

OK I just looked it up, that's interesting. I can't laugh too hard though, some people down here eat chitlins. GAAAGGGG You can just imagine what they smell like when they're cooking. An African-American friend of mine told me once that her uncle made them over at her house regularly. She would leave and stay with friends the day he'd start the batch and not come home for two days. LOL

/Just for the record, I've NEVER eaten chitlins. I'm a city girl, and never even saw one until I was in my 20s.

230 Killian Bundy  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:18:56am

re: #227 littleoldlady

There. You see? "Hog offal"

/the American equivalent of haggis, only haggis is illegal in the U.S.

231 Hengineer  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:19:02am

Congrats to Zombie and Charles, both getting multiple mentions! =-)

232 littleoldlady  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:21:25am

re: #229 gop_patriot

Just like when my mother comes to my house and makes stuffed cabbage. I have to go outside, mostly because she starts cooking before I have enough coffee in me not to get nauseated by the smell.

/good thing she doesn't show up in the winter! ;-)

233 Intrepid  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:23:24am

re: #229 gop_patriot

What is it, like homemade Spam? :X

OK I just looked it up, that's interesting. I can't laugh too hard though, some people down here eat chitlins. GAAAGGGG You can just imagine what they smell like when they're cooking. An African-American friend of mine told me once that her uncle made them over at her house regularly. She would leave and stay with friends the day he'd start the batch and not come home for two days. LOL

/Just for the record, I've NEVER eaten chitlins. I'm a city girl, and never even saw one until I was in my 20s.

Hey, in Bangkok folks eat congee loaded with pig intestines for breakfast. It doesn't smell nice, though, I must say.

/experience

234 BlueCanuck  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:25:46am

re: #224 Fenway_Nation

Don Cherry is a national icon, and hero of many males in this country.

/he of the loud ties, and high collars.

235 Sprite  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:26:37am

Here's the way to cook scrapple and love it:

Lightly dust 1/4 inch slices of 'the King of breakfast meat' in flour. Saute in a bit of oil on medium high until nicely browned. Serve with ketchup, fried eggs and grits.

236 gop_patriot  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:29:37am

re: #233 Intrepid

Eeeww! For breakfast! :p

It's funny, what we in the U.S. call ethnic food (Thai, Indian, Mexican) in no way represents what the average person in those countries eat. You go on vacation, and get a big shock. LOL

237 Sharmuta  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:30:51am

I gotta go with littleoldlady on the stuffed cabbage- ugh!

238 Hengineer  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:32:28am

re: #236 gop_patriot

Eeeww! For breakfast! :p

It's funny, what we in the U.S. call ethnic food (Thai, Indian, Mexican) in no way represents what the average person in those countries eat. You go on vacation, and get a big shock. LOL

I can vouch for the Mexican...its funny though, what so many Americans consider Mexican food is so flat-out make-believe anyway.

Give me "Street Tacos" (warmed corn tortillas with a bit of carne asada and some onions grilled together) any day.

239 Sprite  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:32:42am

I love cabbage, too. Bubble and squeak! Must be me Irish genes..

240 Fenway_Nation  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:35:49am

re: #234 BlueCanuck

Don Cherry is a national icon, and hero of many males in this country.

/he of the loud ties, and high collars.

And former Boston Bruins coach....even tho' it was before my time, he needs little introduction.

241 gop_patriot  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:35:59am

re: #232 littleoldlady

Stinky! Yes, I can imagine not being able to open the windows because it's so cold would be a problem if your house smelled like cooked cabbage! I like sauerkraut but my family protests the smell if I cook it, so I don't. lol

re: #237 Sharmuta

Glad you posted that, I missed her comment! Just read right past it, I hate it when I do that. ;)

242 gop_patriot  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:36:28am

Well, I'm exhausted, and am heading to bed. :) Hope y'all have a nice overnight and morning, talk to you later!

243 Hengineer  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:37:41am

re: #242 gop_patriot

Well, I'm exhausted, and am heading to bed. :) Hope y'all have a nice overnight and morning, talk to you later!


later patriot!

244 Render  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:37:43am

*scrapple?*

*chitlins?*

cough...

Any place around here I can get a hot fresh plain bagel with (Phillie) creme cheese and lox to go with my Fruitcup?

2
MUCH
2
ASK,
R

245 littleoldlady  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:37:59am

'Night gop! :-)

/what? no fruitcup?

246 Hengineer  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:38:20am

re: #244 Render

*scrapple?*

*chitlins?*

cough...

Any place around here I can get a hot fresh plain bagel with (Phillie) creme cheese and lox to go with my Fruitcup?

2
MUCH
2
ASK,
R

what the heck is lox?

247 gop_patriot  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:38:52am

re: #243 Hengineer

later patriot!

Goodnight, stay safe. (((Hengineer)))
:)

248 Sprite  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:39:04am

re: #236 gop_patriot

Hmmmmm. Hello gop, pleased to meet you.

I must disagree. I lived in San Diego for 10 years and went on many, many trips to Mexico.

The Mexican (at least..not speaking for Thai or Indian) food we're treated to in the U.S. is bona fide fabulous and authentic. Even here in Idaho, one of the local restaurants is owned by people who had other restaurants in San Diego....and who are from Mexico.

Absolutely wonderful.

249 BlueCanuck  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:39:07am

re: #246 Hengineer

what the heck is lox?

Liquid Oxygen? ;)

/thinly sliced smoked salmon actually.

250 gop_patriot  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:39:19am

re: #245 littleoldlady

Save me one? =)

lol bye

251 littleoldlady  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:39:45am

re: #244 Render

Render! :-)

Have some kippered salmon!

/to die for

252 Render  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:40:37am

re: #246 Hengineer

You don't wanna know...

*on second thought*

It's really horrible and creepy, you wouldn't like it.

CAN I
HAVE
YOUR
SHARE?,
R

253 BlueCanuck  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:41:29am

Here's an update on the TATP scare in Sweden. Still no nationality identifier.

254 Hengineer  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:41:49am

re: #248 Sprite

Hmmmmm. Hello gop, pleased to meet you.

I must disagree. I lived in San Diego for 10 years and went on many, many trips to Mexico.

The Mexican (at least..not speaking for Thai or Indian) food we're treated to in the U.S. is bona fide fabulous and authentic. Even here in Idaho, one of the local restaurants is owned by people who had other restaurants in San Diego....and who are from Mexico.

Absolutely wonderful.

Sprite I'm referring to Tex-Mex and the "pre-packaged" "taco set" dinners you can by in the Grocery store. That contain those "taco shells"....

I agree Some of the better Mexican places I've been to are on the east side of my hometown (Bakersfield, California), where all the latinos live.

Heck in the southeast, is a big Mexican Market (you can get freshly made corn tortillas and thinly sliced Carne Asada steak)

255 Hengineer  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:42:18am

re: #252 Render

You don't wanna know...

*on second thought*

It's really horrible and creepy, you wouldn't like it.

CAN I
HAVE
YOUR
SHARE?,
R

gladly?

/not much of a seafood/fish eater

256 Killian Bundy  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:42:53am

re: #244 Render

Any place around here I can get a hot fresh plain bagel with (Phillie) creme cheese and lox to go with my Fruitcup?

/sorry, this morning we're having a rat barbecue, it's eat what you catch only

257 Sprite  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:44:48am

re: #254 Hengineer

Exactly, Hengineer. Pleased to meet you, too.

Are you familiar with puffy tacos?

258 littleoldlady  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:46:29am

Lox is not "seafood". Fish, yes.

259 Hengineer  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:47:23am

re: #257 Sprite

Exactly, Hengineer. Pleased to meet you, too.

Are you familiar with puffy tacos?

not sure what you meant by puffy tacos?

260 Intrepid  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:47:51am

re: #249 BlueCanuck

Liquid Oxygen? ;)

/thinly sliced smoked salmon actually.

If that's what it is, the Lox seems like it wants me to eat it. No holds barred.

261 Render  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:48:11am

re: #251 littleoldlady

re: #256 Killian Bundy

That's it. I'm calling for delivery.

===

"Yes, thats Little Green Footballs."

"L"
"I"
"T"
"Yes. Little Green Footballs is the name."

"Under the Denver Airport."

"Yes, under."

""Follow the nitrogen tubes and the cigar smoke until you find the pile of troll bones."

CLICK,
R

262 littleoldlady  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:52:20am

re: #261 Render

Good idea!

/I'm in

263 BlueCanuck  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:52:39am

re: #261 Render

Don't forget to put it on your Zionist Express, business expenses you know.

264 littleoldlady  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:53:44am

re: #260 Intrepid

Intrepid! :-)

It's an acquired taste, and probably better if you start with limited quantities.

/on a bagel with cream cheese, a slice of onion, a bissel tomato...

265 Sprite  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:54:08am

re: #259 Hengineer

Deep fried, flour tortillas.....which puff up in the process and are formed into taco shapes with a spoon while in the oil. Lovely!

re: #256 Killian Bundy

Dang, Killian! Lost my appetite for scrapple and puffy tacos with that one.
I suppose I'm grateful that I'm able to view those youtubes at all. A year ago I could not have....

Sweet night, Lizards :)

266 Hengineer  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:56:45am

re: #265 Sprite

Deep fried, flour tortillas.....which puff up in the process and are formed into taco shapes with a spoon while in the oil. Lovely!

re: #256 Killian Bundy

Dang, Killian! Lost my appetite for scrapple and puffy tacos with that one.
I suppose I'm grateful that I'm able to view those youtubes at all. A year ago I could not have....

Sweet night, Lizards :)

Ah, I'm very much a fan of Corn tortillas for tacos, I LOVE their flavor.

Anyways, gotta run, back to work!

267 Intrepid  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:58:58am

re: #264 littleoldlady

Intrepid! :-)

It's an acquired taste, and probably better if you start with limited quantities.

/on a bagel with cream cheese, a slice of onion, a bissel tomato...

Does it help if I'm used to sushi? Or is the taste so different? Or texture?

Bagel and cream cheese makes lox taste sweet? Do you add onion to that sweet taste?

Must admit, I could go for a bagel and cream cheese right about now!

(must be in need of fruitcup!)

268 littleoldlady  Thu, May 22, 2008 1:59:59am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*™

Fruitcup (etc.) is on the buffet ------------------------->
Help yourselves!

/I can't help it!
//NOW I'm hungry.

269 littleoldlady  Thu, May 22, 2008 2:00:31am

So hungry I jumped the gun. ;-(

270 Fenway_Nation  Thu, May 22, 2008 2:02:50am

re: #269 littleoldlady

So hungry I jumped the gun. ;-(

The Fruitcupitron 3000 would never have made a mistake like that.

271 littleoldlady  Thu, May 22, 2008 2:03:24am

re: #270 Fenway_Nation

I know.

/sigh

272 Intrepid  Thu, May 22, 2008 2:04:13am

re: #269 littleoldlady

So hungry I jumped the gun. ;-(

Yep, by one second. If we were muslim, you'd probably be in really big trouble.

SO glad we're not! Wee! Fruitcup....

Thanks LOL!

273 Sharmuta  Thu, May 22, 2008 2:05:06am

re: #270 Fenway_Nation

The Fruitcupitron 3000 would never have made a mistake like that.

Blasphemy! We don't need no stinkin' Fruitcupitron!

274 BlueCanuck  Thu, May 22, 2008 2:05:46am

re: #270 Fenway_Nation

But, but, if we automated fruitcup littleoldlady wouldn't be able to put that special touch on it.

/besides red could probably monkey around with the innards easily

275 Render  Thu, May 22, 2008 2:06:38am

re: #269 littleoldlady

No you didn't.

When you use Zionist Express, it gets there before you hang up the phone.

OR
MONEY
BACK,
R

276 Sprite  Thu, May 22, 2008 2:07:38am

re: #268 littleoldlady

Loved your fruit cup (as always) and buffet. Hey, I'm not Kosher, but I'm a caterer, too. Would be honored to feed you and yours any day.

G'night.

277 Sharmuta  Thu, May 22, 2008 2:08:47am

Automated fruitcup! The very thought makes me cringe.

/Now I'm going to have nightmares for a week.

278 Intrepid  Thu, May 22, 2008 2:09:14am

BTW, who actually signs our Zionist checks? The only one I can think of who is qualified is Bibi Netanyahu. Is anyone else able, or ABLE?

279 littleoldlady  Thu, May 22, 2008 2:09:54am

re: #267 Intrepid

Lox and other fish (see link in #268) are smoked raw. I don't think it's a matter of making them taste "sweet". They're strong flavored, you really don't need to eat a lot of it to get the taste (which is a good thing, because you wouldn't BELIEVE how expensive the stuff is!), and the bagel, etc. just adds to the experience. ;-)

There's an array of Jewish style fish to choose from - regular lox (salty), Nova lox (unsalty), kippered salmon, whitefish, whitefish salad, sable, smoked carp, sturgeon...what am I leaving out?

280 littleoldlady  Thu, May 22, 2008 2:11:54am

'Night, Sprite! :-)

Sharmuta,

No Fruitcupitron without a linen dispenser! ;-)

281 BlueCanuck  Thu, May 22, 2008 2:12:08am

re: #279 littleoldlady

Gefilte(sp?)?

282 Intrepid  Thu, May 22, 2008 2:12:44am

re: #279 littleoldlady

Lox and other fish (see link in #268) are smoked raw. I don't think it's a matter of making them taste "sweet". They're strong flavored, you really don't need to eat a lot of it to get the taste (which is a good thing, because you wouldn't BELIEVE how expensive the stuff is!), and the bagel, etc. just adds to the experience. ;-)

There's an array of Jewish style fish to choose from - regular lox (salty), Nova lox (unsalty), kippered salmon, whitefish, whitefish salad, sable, smoked carp, sturgeon...what am I leaving out?

Shrimp? Hee.

/sorry

283 littleoldlady  Thu, May 22, 2008 2:13:17am

re: #281 BlueCanuck

NO!

re: #282 Intrepid

NO!

284 Killian Bundy  Thu, May 22, 2008 2:13:25am

re: #279 littleoldlady

There's an array of Jewish style fish to choose from - regular lox (salty), Nova lox (unsalty), kippered salmon, whitefish, whitefish salad, sable, smoked carp, sturgeon...what am I leaving out?

/Lutefisk

285 Intrepid  Thu, May 22, 2008 2:13:57am

Bad Intrepid, bad bad!

286 Sharmuta  Thu, May 22, 2008 2:14:29am

re: #280 littleoldlady

Sharmuta,

No Fruitcupitron without a linen dispenser! ;-)

LOL!

287 Sprite  Thu, May 22, 2008 2:15:55am

And you're welcome, lol. It's a Southern thing, I guess?....
Nothing much has really changed, eh?

Just thought I'd check in on the late night crew.

288 littleoldlady  Thu, May 22, 2008 2:16:05am

re: #284 Killian Bundy

NO! NO! NO!

/good news! I'm not hungry anymore... :-/

289 BlueCanuck  Thu, May 22, 2008 2:19:06am

re: #282 Intrepid

I like shrimp, a lot.

/*sigh* I could never go kosher.

290 Render  Thu, May 22, 2008 2:19:31am

re: #284 Killian Bundy

Horrible, horrible of you.

MAKE MINE
TO GO,
R

291 BlueCanuck  Thu, May 22, 2008 2:21:26am

re: #290 Render

Horrible, horrible of you.

MAKE MINE
TO GO,
R

Yeah, far, far away.

/the further the better.

292 littleoldlady  Thu, May 22, 2008 2:22:15am

re: #289 BlueCanuck

So do I.

293 Intrepid  Thu, May 22, 2008 2:22:34am

re: #289 BlueCanuck

I like shrimp, a lot.

/*sigh* I could never go kosher.

Yeah, me neither. Love shrimp and crab and clam too much. Oh, and pork.

OH! And cheeseburgers.

sigh

294 BlueCanuck  Thu, May 22, 2008 2:23:23am

re: #292 littleoldlady

A dirty little secret?

it's safe with me ;)

295 Intrepid  Thu, May 22, 2008 2:24:08am

re: #292 littleoldlady

So do I.

Aumm, I'm tellin'! Wait, who do I tell?

/confused

296 Sprite  Thu, May 22, 2008 2:27:02am

re: #287 Sprite

And you're welcome, lol. It's a Southern thing, I guess?....
Nothing much has really changed, eh?

Just thought I'd check in on the late night crew.

That is to say: I offered/said I'd be honored to cater for you and yours. No thank you in response! Where are your manners? Where I come from, that's...

It's just like you've always treated me, lol. You may provide fruitcup, but you aren't awfully nice, in my book.

297 littleoldlady  Thu, May 22, 2008 2:29:31am

re: #294 BlueCanuck

It is. ;-)

298 littleoldlady  Thu, May 22, 2008 2:31:45am

re: #296 Sprite

I've never been able to satisfy you, Sprite.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OFFER!

299 Sprite  Thu, May 22, 2008 2:32:34am

re: #298 littleoldlady

You bet.

300 Intrepid  Thu, May 22, 2008 2:41:31am

re: #298 littleoldlady

I've never been able to satisfy you, Sprite.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE OFFER!

Sometimes folks need a Tefilat HaDerech as they make their way through the internet, LOL.

/wiki

301 Sprite  Thu, May 22, 2008 2:49:55am

re: #300 Intrepid

That is a beautiful prayer. You do not know that I was married to a Jewish man, apparently.

I send that prayer to you and lol, too.

302 littleoldlady  Thu, May 22, 2008 2:56:34am

Okay, I'll admit it. I have...problems. I'm terrible at multi-tasking. Plus I'm a slow typer. And trying to keep up and answer 10 people at once is sometimes way more than I can handle, especially when we're talking about food.

So I apologize to one and all if I've inadvertently skipped over a message or two.

/mea culpa
//mea maxima culpa
///I'm...you know...not nice.
////trying to learn to live with that...

And a BIG thank you to those who have forgiven me and not pointed out my failings.

Now I have to get to work.

Good day, ALL!™

303 littleoldlady  Thu, May 22, 2008 2:57:38am

Oh wait. I can't leave yet...

THANK YOU FOR THE PRAYER, SPRITE!

*p00f!*

304 Sprite  Thu, May 22, 2008 2:57:57am

re: #302 littleoldlady

Sending love, lol. Please don't work too hard.

305 godfrey  Thu, May 22, 2008 2:58:28am

Hey, who ate all the maraschino cherries?

306 Sprite  Thu, May 22, 2008 2:58:37am

You bet ;)

307 Sharmuta  Thu, May 22, 2008 2:59:45am

re: #305 godfrey

Hey, who ate all the maraschino cherries?

*burp* I dunno......

*looks innocently around*

308 godfrey  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:00:45am

Sharm! I like Cooper's article. I thought it'd be work to get through this early in the morning, but it isn't. How is everyone?

309 godfrey  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:05:25am

Richard North has a nice short reflection on the fauxtography scandal here.

310 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:09:30am

Good morning, Lizards.

311 godfrey  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:11:36am

Good morning, teacher...

312 godfrey  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:12:38am

In case you think the world is moving too swiftly, take heart in knowing that some things never change: Khyber Pass Still Dangerous.

313 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:13:25am

(godfrey)

Six days left...wow, it's going too fast!

314 godfrey  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:15:31am

Soon you'll enter summertime, which is One Long Prep.

315 Sharmuta  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:18:42am

re: #314 godfrey

Soon you'll enter summertime, which is One Long Prep.

And let's be sure not to confuse preparations with preconditions.

316 BlueCanuck  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:19:04am

good morning goddess, counting down the days to summer vacation I see.

/I miss school :)

317 jdow-antijihad  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:19:41am

Astoundingly good piece. And as a report it does not reach any conclusions. It leaves that up to the reader. As a compilation it is pretty damning to Reuters, AFP, and AP. I revisited Zombies three magnum opuses (opi if you speak Latin). Visit them and note the options presented for possible reasons for the Reuters errors. Indeed, it's probably a confusion of all of them jumbled together with a huge dose of systematic bias thrown in.

News media are supposed to report. But power corrupts. The siren song of power, the power to manipulate minds, makes it very hard for people who, themselves, are very biased to pass up the opportunity to manipulate the publics' minds "for their own good." Megalomania by any other name....

{^_^}

318 Jim in Virginia  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:20:58am

Morning all. It's cloudy, cool, 50 or so here in the DC 'burbs. Someone pass the global warming please.
A couple WSJ links for today:
Henninger: Hillary's concession speech
Rove: Obama's troubling foreign policy instincts

319 opnion  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:23:12am

Good Morning all. Apparently Hillary is not yet willing to negotiate her terms of surreder. Let the anomosity grow!

320 godfrey  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:23:21am

Hot pancakes, anyone?

321 Jim in Virginia  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:24:20am

re: #320 godfrey
Fer sure, I got your Maple syrup right here.

322 BlueCanuck  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:25:39am

re: #321 Jim in Virginia

From Ontario or Quebec?

/gotta be Canadian for the great flavour.

323 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:26:08am

{Sharmuta}
{BlueCanuck}

I'm mega-stressed because I'm trying to get both the last issue of the newspaper and the literary magazine ready for publishing. I'm also waiting to hear whether I'm going to get an assignment I REALLY WANT, but I don't even know when I'll know. If I get it, I'll need to pack up everything and move to another classroom as well as do some "handover" training.

I don't deal well with unknowns...

324 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:30:52am

Morning all. Did you notice the story posted up above about Unlawful Command Influence in the Haditha Marines case? This is a big, big win for the Haditha Marines!
[Link: www.worldnetdaily.com...]

325 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:31:46am

Good morning all. 53 degrees as Eos begins to get embarrassed recalling her tryst with Orion. Hope all are well today.

re: #323 goddessoftheclassroom

I don't deal well with unknowns...

Who does? My life seems to be nothing but unknowns.

326 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:32:19am

re: #323 goddessoftheclassroom

{Sharmuta}
{BlueCanuck}

I'm mega-stressed because I'm trying to get both the last issue of the newspaper and the literary magazine ready for publishing. I'm also waiting to hear whether I'm going to get an assignment I REALLY WANT, but I don't even know when I'll know. If I get it, I'll need to pack up everything and move to another classroom as well as do some "handover" training.

I don't deal well with unknowns...

Deep breaths goddess.

327 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:34:24am

re: #323 goddessoftheclassroom

I was on the newspaper throughout High School -- I ended up as editor in chief and did a pretty good job, even though the adviser and I had a difficult relationship. She favored the managing editor, mainly because (unbeknownst to me) she was a Lesbian and trying to recruit her. She failed, but it made my life miserable for a while.

In the end the newspaper adviser left her husband and infant son to take up with the sports editor. I guess she had more success with her than with the managing editor.

328 opnion  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:35:25am

re: #324 galloping granny

Morning all. Did you notice the story posted up above about Unlawful Command Influence in the Haditha Marines case? This is a big, big win for the Haditha Marines!
[Link: www.worldnetdaily.com...]

Murtha will no doubt offer a humble apology & resign in disgrace.
Hmmmm, guess not.

329 Sharmuta  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:36:50am

re: #323 goddessoftheclassroom

Don't stress yourself- it's bad for your health, and rarely helps accomplish anything.

330 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:37:05am

re: #328 opnion

Murtha will no doubt offer a humble apology & resign in disgrace.
Hmmmm, guess not.

Unfortunately. At the very least his fellow congresspeople should publicly censure him.

331 opnion  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:39:56am

re: #330 galloping granny

Unfortunately. At the very least his fellow congresspeople should publicly censure him.


Not likely. Have you noticed how they like to refer to each other as "My good friend." I kind of think that they all know where each others skeletons are

332 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:40:35am

re: #327 Lucius Septimius

I took over the paper from a 10-year, award winning veteran adviser who retired. She was a tremendous help to me--I'd call her at 8 AM, 7 AM her time now, with questions.

I can be patient and calm with many unknowns, but waiting for a decision that will impact me is horrible.

333 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:40:51am

re: #329 Sharmuta

Don't stress yourself- it's bad for your health, and rarely helps accomplish anything.

Ditto. Though there is something oddly comforting about feeling stressed, especially if you're an adrenalin junky.

334 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:41:22am

re: #329 Sharmuta

Don't stress yourself- it's bad for your health, and rarely helps accomplish anything.

So right and so wise. I need to let go and let God.

335 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:42:01am

re: #332 goddessoftheclassroom

If I might ask, what would be the other assignment?

(I love the subjunctive -- it fits my current, shall we say, mood)

336 Jim in Virginia  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:42:15am

re: #322 BlueCanuck

From Ontario or Quebec?

/gotta be Canadian for the great flavour.


Vermont. Made in the USA! Sorry, BC.

337 Jim in Virginia  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:43:27am

re: #323 goddessoftheclassroom

{Sharmuta}
{BlueCanuck}

I'm mega-stressed because I'm trying to get both the last issue of the newspaper and the literary magazine ready for publishing. I'm also waiting to hear whether I'm going to get an assignment I REALLY WANT, but I don't even know when I'll know. If I get it, I'll need to pack up everything and move to another classroom as well as do some "handover" training.

I don't deal well with unknowns...


Change is good. You go first.

338 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:43:37am

re: #336 Jim in Virginia

Vermont. Made in the USA! Sorry, BC.

Uh oh -- fires begin to flare, I fear.

339 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:43:54am

re: #331 opnion

Not likely. Have you noticed how they like to refer to each other as "My good friend." I kind of think that they all know where each others skeletons are

Yes, I have noticed that. You are exactly right.

340 Jim in Virginia  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:45:18am

Lucius, how is your brood? Your youngest doing well?

341 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:45:29am

re: #336 Jim in Virginia

Vermont. Made in the USA! Sorry, BC.

If it is any consolation to Blue Canuck, we used to be part of what is now Canada, before we were the Hampsire Grants, before we were the independent Republic of Vermont (pre USA). . . . Quebec though.

342 Jim in Virginia  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:46:10am

re: #338 Lucius Septimius

Uh oh -- fires begin to flare, I fear.


You're in an alliterative mood also.

343 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:46:35am

re: #335 Lucius Septimius

If I might ask, what would be the other assignment?

(I love the subjunctive -- it fits my current, shall we say, mood)

{Lucius Septimius}

Taking over the drama department from a retiring teacher. I've earned it, I have the seniority, and I have the credentials, but until it's official, I can't count on it.

YOU, sir, need some down time and R&R with your Lovely Bride. Farm out the kids to relatives or friends and get away to a B&B or something for a couple days.

344 Jim in Virginia  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:47:25am

Sigh. Must head off to oppress the masses and foul the environment. Have a great day all.

345 BlueCanuck  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:47:36am

re: #336 Jim in Virginia

Vermont. Made in the USA! Sorry, BC.

Meh, whatever your taste. Got to support our respective economies. :)

346 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:52:02am

re: #340 Jim in Virginia

L. Quartius Rufus is doing fine -- sleeping through the night, sort of (got me up at 5, which was ok; better than the 4:30 wake-up calls I've been getting this week) and getting more interesting. We still have a couple of months before he "wakes up," but he seems like he's going to be a good kid. What's funny is how he responds to his siblings -- his next older brother he adores -- as soon as he sees him he smiles. He and his sister have a more contentious relationship, though she tries to be nurturing the jealousy comes out at time. He doesn't really seem to respond to his oldest brother, which is funny in a way since oldest boy's primary job seems to be to stir up everyone else.

I'll stop now -- get me talking about my kids and I could go on forever.

347 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:52:28am

re: #343 goddessoftheclassroom

I'd like that but frankly I'm the last person in the world she wants to spend any time with nowadays.

348 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:52:54am

re: #344 Jim in Virginia

Sigh. Must head off to oppress the masses and foul the environment. Have a great day all.

Good on ya! Nature is a Mother, after all.

349 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:53:05am

Hat Trick!

350 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:53:29am

Now I'm starting to feel like tfk ....

351 BlueCanuck  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:53:58am

re: #350 Lucius Septimius

Or Miguel? :)

352 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:54:25am

re: #347 Lucius Septimius

I'd like that but frankly I'm the last person in the world she wants to spend any time with nowadays.

Which is why you must. Get out the iron...

353 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:54:30am

re: #351 BlueCanuck

Si!

Oh well, I'll never get to 10K if I'm shy about posting when no one's reading.

354 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:55:19am

I'm getting the, "Mooooooooom," (drawn out to several syllables), so I've got to go.

God bless and keep us all.

355 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:55:27am

re: #352 goddessoftheclassroom

... and not the wood?

Trust me; I've made the suggestion, but it hasn't elicited a positive response.

356 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, May 22, 2008 3:57:39am

re: #355 Lucius Septimius

... and not the wood?

Trust me; I've made the suggestion, but it hasn't elicited a positive response.

Keep trying. Maybe talk to her doctor in case there are some postpartum issues? I don't want to be a busy-body, but I can't help to try to look for possible solutions when someone I care about is hurting.

Ok, I'm off.

357 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:02:02am

Did somebody kill it?

358 BlueCanuck  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:03:42am

Not yet, but it's teetering.

359 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:05:26am

re: #358 BlueCanuck

Not yet, but it's teetering.

How're things with you Blue?

360 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:07:22am

re: #357 galloping granny

It's ALIVE!

361 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:09:00am

re: #360 Lucius Septimius

It's ALIVE!

ROFLMAO!

362 BlueCanuck  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:11:13am

re: #359 galloping granny

Okay, been riding a whirlwind it feels like. Undergoing a sever lack of sleep here.

/parts are worth the lack.

363 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:13:55am

re: #362 BlueCanuck

Okay, been riding a whirlwind it feels like. Undergoing a sever lack of sleep here.

/parts are worth the lack.

I hate times like that. Then when things calm down I am usually bored out of my mind.

364 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:15:08am

From yesterday's BotW:

What kind of man supports Barack Obama? The Associated Press reports that James Yee, a former Muslim Army chaplain at Guantanamo Bay who was accused of spying, has been chosen as an Obama delegate to the Democratic National Convention.

Yee was not prosecuted on those charges. The AP states that he was "cleared," but a 2004 New York Times editorial said otherwise:

In dropping the prosecution last week, the military refused to clear Captain Yee, contending that it had acted only because of ''national security concerns that would arise from the release of the evidence.''

Last year, the Middle East Media Research Institute aired a clip of an interview Yee gave to Syrian television. Blogger Charles Johnson has a transcript. Yee claimed that the Koran "was being desecrated in Guantanamo in many different ways." Yee acknowledged that he did not actually witness any of the purported desecration; he merely took the detainees' word for it.

What kind of man supports Barack Obama? The kind of man who goes on TV in an Arab country ruled by a hostile authoritarian regime and participates in propaganda that seems designed to inflame anti-American sentiment.

365 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:16:00am

re: #363 galloping granny

I hate times like that. Then when things calm down I am usually bored out of my mind.

I crave boredom -- I wish I had the opportunity to taste, if only for a short while, sweet delicious boredom.

366 BlueCanuck  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:17:39am

re: #363 galloping granny

Ah, but some parts of the ride are exhilirating. the rush of the wind, the heights you reach. You only have to worry about the dismount.

/I am sure I can find a wicked witch to land on. ;)

367 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:19:09am

I'm married to a the sexiest vegetarian in the world; that said, I never thought I'd see the term "sexy" applied to this person (from BotW):

"People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals has posted its online ballot to determine 2008's Sexiest Vegetarian Celebrity," reports the Chicago Tribune's Mark Caro:

Just give PETA your name and e-mail address (which wouldn't happen to be the point, now, would it?), and you can vote among more than 180 sexy vegetarians listed to succeed 2007's sexy-veg winners Carrie Underwood and "Tonight Show" bandleader Kevin Eubanks . . .

Did we mention these vegetarians are sexy? We're talking Alicia Silverstone, Tobey Maguire, Naomi Watts, Casey Affleck, Christie Brinkley, Andre 3000, Natalie Portman, Joaquin Phoenix, Chelsea Clinton . . . the list goes on.

Hey, hold on a second. Chelsea Clinton? The same Chelsea Clinton whose mother loves nothing more than to grab a shotgun, blast some animals and eat them is a vegetarian? To put it another way: Hillary Clinton, who won the votes of huge majorities of Appalachian animal-lovers (in the gustatory sense, of course), raised a vegetarian?

This is a scandal. It calls into serious question Mrs. Clinton's credentials as a hunter, or at least her ability as a spokesman for hunters. So let's give Barack Obama a boost among carnivorous Montanans and South Dakotans: Click here and vote for Chelsea.

368 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:19:17am

re: #365 Lucius Septimius

I crave boredom -- I wish I had the opportunity to taste, if only for a short while, sweet delicious boredom.

I could stand sweet delicious boredom for about 15 minutes.

369 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:19:45am

re: #366 BlueCanuck

"Oh she's just mad because someone dropped a house on her sister ..."

370 BlueCanuck  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:21:44am

re: #369 Lucius Septimius

*snigger* But I never got that impression.

/besides looking for one close to home. ;)

371 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:21:49am

re: #368 galloping granny

I could stand sweet delicious boredom for about 15 minutes.

Live in my house for a while and you'd take more than 15 minutes ...

372 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:23:58am

re: #371 Lucius Septimius

Live in my house for a while and you'd take more than 15 minutes ...

I raised 4 kids of my own and two nephews part time with a couple of dogs, 3 cats and assorted kittens and puppies. As a single mother. Working and doing university at the same time when they were in their early teens. I suspect I would find your house relatively calm :)

373 Tigger2005  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:28:44am

Great analysis, but one thing I don't like about it is the way he gives the media some credit for "admitting" errors.

The media deserves no credit for anything. None. They have completely abandoned journalistic ethics and basic morality. They have capitulated to the enemies of Western civilization and are now working for them. None of these fauxtography scandals can be excused, not one. The media long ago gave up any pretense of fact checking and accuracy in favor of sensationalism and editorializing. They should not need bloggers to fact check their asses. And the bloggers are revealing, not laziness or sloppiness, but a deliberate campaign of deception.

374 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:36:09am

re: #373 Tigger2005

Great analysis, but one thing I don't like about it is the way he gives the media some credit for "admitting" errors.

The media deserves no credit for anything. None. They have completely abandoned journalistic ethics and basic morality. They have capitulated to the enemies of Western civilization and are now working for them. None of these fauxtography scandals can be excused, not one. The media long ago gave up any pretense of fact checking and accuracy in favor of sensationalism and editorializing. They should not need bloggers to fact check their asses. And the bloggers are revealing, not laziness or sloppiness, but a deliberate campaign of deception.

And "admitting errors" after repeatedly denying what any 10 year old that can run a graphics program can plainly see and a photo has run on the front page of half the newspapers nationwide is inexcusable.

375 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:36:44am

re: #367 Lucius Septimius

My wife is married to the sexiest vegetarian in the world!

376 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:38:08am

re: #375 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Good morning to you! How are things at the other end of the ATL?

377 laZardo  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:43:08am

Good eeeeeeeevening Reptilia!

378 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:43:13am

re: #373 Tigger2005

"They have completely abandoned journalistic ethics and basic morality."

Yep, they would rather air the Dirty Laundry.

Top of the morning to tou Lizards! and how is everyone this morning?

379 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:44:41am

Morning bubblehead and lazardo.

380 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:44:59am

Top of the morning to tou YOU Lizards!

PIMF! and on the first post of the day, no less... need another cup of coffee.

381 laZardo  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:46:56am

re: #378 Bubblehead II

Hope tank is running on empty, but then again it's been like that for some time. Cynicism burns a lot more efficiently and creates less greenhouse emissions. (:

382 BlueCanuck  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:48:19am

re: #381 laZardo

You been hanging around red again?

/or maybe it's contractual obligation.
//each shift needs at least one cynic.

383 Ma Sands  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:49:27am

re: #380 Bubblehead II

Hey! That's what it's FOR --to correct it before you post.....you are funny....and certainly DO need a cup of coffee --or maybe it is me who does..... :)

384 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:51:09am

re: #383 Ma Sands

Hey! That's what it's FOR --to correct it before you post.....you are funny....and certainly DO need a cup of coffee --or maybe it is me who does..... :)

I just started a pot.

385 BlueCanuck  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:51:56am

re: #384 galloping granny

I just started a pot.

Tease. I dare not have any at this time of day. Interferes with my sleep.

386 laZardo  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:52:05am

re: #382 BlueCanuck

It's hard not to hang around something you can't change. ;)

/blame the managers at the International Cynics Union Local 327. They blame my insomnia on the employers.

387 Ma Sands  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:52:57am

re: #384 galloping granny

(Me, too.....and it's GOOD --Arabica....want some? :)

388 Ma Sands  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:54:46am

re: #385 BlueCanuck

Hmmm.....you must be pretty young....when you've gotten to my great age, and have drunk as many pots per day as I do.......it won't affect sleep, or give the shakes......it'll just be for good, good enjoyment..... :)

389 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:55:42am

re: #387 Ma Sands

(Me, too.....and it's GOOD --Arabica....want some? :)

Sure, I'll trade you. I love good coffee and try lots of different varieties, but invariably I come back to good old Eight O'Clock, ground espresso superfine. Gives it an almost chocolate flavor.

390 BlueCanuck  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:56:28am

re: #388 Ma Sands

The trouble is I usually need it the most right now. Unfortunately bedtime is in 1 hour or so. Therefore real bad for good zzzz's. Don't know if it's about age or not, just what it does to me.

391 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:56:30am

re: #385 BlueCanuck

Tease. I dare not have any at this time of day. Interferes with my sleep.

Are you getting ready to go to bed?

392 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:56:55am

re: #384 galloping granny

I just make it by the cup. Folgers coffee singles. Don't particularly like it, but until the good stuff finishes brewing at 1230, I have to live with it.

393 Ma Sands  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:57:13am

re: #389 galloping granny

Well, c'mon over --my teacher son got me up way early, bringing me a new rake and grass seed.... :)

394 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:57:15am

re: #372 galloping granny

I raised 4 kids of my own and two nephews part time with a couple of dogs, 3 cats and assorted kittens and puppies. As a single mother. Working and doing university at the same time when they were in their early teens. I suspect I would find your house relatively calm :)

Very likely, though my oldest one is really worth about five kids sometimes and about three most of the time.

I still look forward to having nothing in particular to do.

395 BlueCanuck  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:57:50am

re: #391 galloping granny

In a way yes, almost done work.

396 BlueCanuck  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:58:27am

Well time to go folks, see you all next time.

397 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:58:30am

re: #389 galloping granny

Sure, I'll trade you. I love good coffee and try lots of different varieties, but invariably I come back to good old Eight O'Clock, ground espresso superfine. Gives it an almost chocolate flavor.

I'm with you -- I love Eight O'Clock. Drinking my second cup right now.

At my dad's shop we drank Navy coffee from the PX. God awful stuff, but it did keep you warm, awake .... and regular.

398 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:58:43am

re: #396 BlueCanuck

Ciao, babe!

399 Widow'smight  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:58:47am

re: #388 Ma Sands

I'm sure you were great at all your ages princess.

400 Ma Sands  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:58:55am

re: #390 BlueCanuck

I 'spect last night's tragedy of Steven Curtis Chapman's family was talked about this morning already.....?

401 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:59:34am

re: #396 BlueCanuck

Later.

402 Ma Sands  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:59:54am

re: #399 Widow'smight

You know what? I like you. :)

403 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:00:12am

You guys should go look at the picture of the "stranded polar bear" on a chunk of ice in the water" at the top front of Foxnews! What a hoot this is. Apparently the gorbull warming/save the polar bear crowd do not realize that polar bears can swim! (For miles if need be.)

404 greatdane  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:00:57am

A 200 page article about photographs, without a single photograph. Academics.

405 Ma Sands  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:01:19am

re: #403 galloping granny

:) Thank you for making me laugh. Needed that.

406 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:01:53am

re: #394 Lucius Septimius

Very likely, though my oldest one is really worth about five kids sometimes and about three most of the time.

I still look forward to having nothing in particular to do.

My eldest nephew was like that. You would have him by the seat of his pants dragging him bodily out of one total disaster bound to kill him or blow up the house and before you even let go the kiddo would have thought up a dozen more things to get into. I used to call him a little devil on jet powered roller skates.

407 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:02:40am

re: #402 Ma Sands

You know what? I like you. :)

Widow's mite is well worth liking :)

408 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:02:48am

re: #403 galloping granny

Apparently the gorbull warming/save the polar bear crowd do not realize that polar bears can swim! (For miles if need be.)

But if the water is too warm they might, um, uh ... y'know ... get tired or sumthin? Or depressed? That's the ticket ... depressed because there isn't enough snow to help them feel in tune with their environment. All that white is self-affirming for the polar bears, and when there isn't enough white stuff around to reassure them about their polar-bear-ness, they become alienated from their surroundings and begin to perish from a sense of anomie.

409 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:03:13am

re: #406 galloping granny

What does he do now?

410 Ma Sands  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:04:21am

re: #408 Lucius Septimius

Ah, you oughta write children's books! You're good. :)

411 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:04:42am

re: #397 Lucius Septimius

I'm with you -- I love Eight O'Clock. Drinking my second cup right now.

At my dad's shop we drank Navy coffee from the PX. God awful stuff, but it did keep you warm, awake .... and regular.

I just heard the gurgle, so I should be able to indulge momentarily. Assuming the coffee cream did not disappear.

I could only wish my Navy dad had made Navy coffee. He took to instant rather well. I hated coffee until I went to live in Germany and my landlady would invite me down for coffee every afternoon.

412 Widow'smight  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:04:49am

re: #402 Ma Sands

Same to you girl, and that Galloping Granny is perty darn sweet too.

413 ConservativeAtheist  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:05:14am

Been doing a bunch of research lately regarding global warming, and I just ran across a web site I found rather unbelievable. If there are any Aussies posting, I'd love to hear your comments on the state of the Australian Broadcasting Company. If this is any indication, the US mainstream media may have some catching up to do to sink quite this low. Telling kids at what age they should die to stop contributing to global warming. Unbelievable. My kids should have died at age 1.5 according to these buffoons.

414 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:06:02am

re: #410 Ma Sands

Ah, you oughta write children's books! You're good. :)

About anomie? Hmmmm ... now that's a novel idea ... children's books about alienation and Unheimlichkeit.

415 laZardo  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:08:38am

re: #408 Lucius Septimius

We should initiate a mass bongo drop just in case...

416 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:09:07am

re: #409 Lucius Septimius

What does he do now?

Now he is a contractor. He is very talented at it and loves what he does, but it makes me kind of sad. He was the single most mechanically brilliant human being I have ever met as a child. Before he could walk he was disassembling my father's manual alarm clock - and could put it back together again. Never got any academic encouragement though, and neither the school nor his parents emphasized his natural math skills. I've always felt that he was born to be the next Thomas Alva Edison or similar and missed the boat.

417 rightside  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:09:13am

Morning Lizards!

418 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:10:23am

Morning rightside!

419 Widow'smight  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:10:38am

re: #414 Lucius Septimius

You know one think I never understood. If the Polar ice caps melting supposed cause the ocean levels to rise ......

Why is it Water occupies more volume than as a solid than a liquid?

Maybe it's all those Peeing Polar Bears that are meltin the ice.

420 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:12:15am

re: #415 laZardo

We should initiate a mass bongo drop just in case...

That and some black turtle necks and berets.

421 Ma Sands  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:12:46am

re: #416 galloping granny

You are, with that mind set (think "heart" :) --still his urge-er.....don't give up; there is still time "until the last breath is drawn" --it was meant for something, and you will be that good part of it, the one who never gave up believing in him..... :)

422 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:12:54am

re: #419 Widow'smight

Maybe they all took that "when should you die" test and decide to just pack it in for the good of Gaia.

423 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:12:54am

Petraeus faces Senate on Central Command job

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Army Gen. David Petraeus, praised for curbing violence in Iraq, seeks to persuade senators on Thursday he can handle the task of heading the U.S. military in the entire Middle East and beyond.

424 Widow'smight  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:12:58am

bbl

425 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:13:07am

re: #419 Widow'smight

You know one think I never understood. If the Polar ice caps melting supposed cause the ocean levels to rise ......

Why is it Water occupies more volume than as a solid than a liquid?

Maybe it's all those Peeing Polar Bears that are meltin the ice.

This is just another one of those really bad "scientific facts" that make "global warming" so much BS.

426 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:14:08am

re: #416 galloping granny

Smart creative people are often difficult to deal with, especially as kids when it's hard to keep them directed on anything.

My oldest also has the misfortune of having the most charming and gifted little brother in the world -- no really; it makes it tough on him.

427 ConservativeAtheist  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:14:15am

re: #419 Widow'smight

The arctic melting would raise ocean levels by zero since it's already ice floating on water. The Greenland ice sheet and the Antarctic, however, would be another matter since that ice is on land today. Of course it's not happening which is quite easy to see here.

428 doriangrey  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:16:12am

Good morning Lizards........

429 laZardo  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:16:15am

re: #420 Lucius Septimius

And hair (fur?) gel. If only that rotten Bush junta would let the UN in to do so...

430 rightside  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:18:56am

re: #418 galloping granny

Morning to you granny!

re: #428 doriangrey

Morning dorian!

431 Ma Sands  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:19:15am

re: #426 Lucius Septimius

I've seen that line of thought discussed by home educators: they have studied the phenomenon and found that every last bit of the wildness, when not squashed & sat upon by every adult in the child's life, was corralled by himself as he grew, into the most useful piece of the whole, in making him wonderfully, imaginatively productive.....

432 doriangrey  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:20:42am

re: #430 rightside

Morning to you granny!

re: #428 doriangrey

Morning dorian!

Morning rightside...

433 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:21:21am

re: #431 Ma Sands

I just wish the wildness could be directed towards something productive -- mostly it comes out in stirring up his siblings and inventing things to be upset about.

This morning it was "when does my golf season begin." Ummm, we have never played golf, we can't afford it, I don't have time, there isn't a course with a membership fee of under 50K anywhere within a two hour drive, and you already know all of this.

434 doriangrey  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:22:58am

re: #433 Lucius Septimius

I just wish the wildness could be directed towards something productive -- mostly it comes out in stirring up his siblings and inventing things to be upset about.

This morning it was "when does my golf season begin." Ummm, we have never played golf, we can't afford it, I don't have time, there isn't a course with a membership fee of under 50K anywhere within a two hour drive, and you already know all of this.

ROTFLMAO.................... Poor Lucius, yer kid is trying to turn into a snob....... Good luck with that..........

435 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:23:28am

re: #426 Lucius Septimius

Smart creative people are often difficult to deal with, especially as kids when it's hard to keep them directed on anything.

My oldest also has the misfortune of having the most charming and gifted little brother in the world -- no really; it makes it tough on him.

Sometimes people try to keep smart, creative children directed on the wrong thing. Kids like that often process information at many times the rate an average person can and it is not unusual to see them multitask at several seemingly impossible things at once. Boredom is the number one enemy of this kind of brilliance. While they are young they might comply with what they see as busywork, but by the time they are teens you meet their challenge or they just give up and drop out - literally and figuratively.

If he is hard to keep directed then you need to find something more challenging for him. Canned curriculum almost never works. Also bear in mind that there is little harder in this world than being good at many things. Involve him in choosing for himself what he wants or thinks he needs to learn and be ready to explain just exactly WHY he needs to learn to do something.

436 doriangrey  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:26:16am

re: #433 Lucius Septimius

I just wish the wildness could be directed towards something productive -- mostly it comes out in stirring up his siblings and inventing things to be upset about.

This morning it was "when does my golf season begin." Ummm, we have never played golf, we can't afford it, I don't have time, there isn't a course with a membership fee of under 50K anywhere within a two hour drive, and you already know all of this.

Heh heh heh give him a lawn mower and tell him his golf season starts just as soon as he earns the money for a membership...

437 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:26:22am

re: #433 Lucius Septimius

I just wish the wildness could be directed towards something productive -- mostly it comes out in stirring up his siblings and inventing things to be upset about.

This morning it was "when does my golf season begin." Ummm, we have never played golf, we can't afford it, I don't have time, there isn't a course with a membership fee of under 50K anywhere within a two hour drive, and you already know all of this.

Ah - now you see, the solution to this is easy. Rather than giving him the answer that he did, you should have set him to finding out where to play golf, how much lessons cost, how much membership costs, how much the clubs costs, greens fees and just how he was going to earn that money, since his allowance wouldn't cover it.

NEVER give a brilliant child a straight answer unless it is life or death or a personal discussion. Make him work for it!

438 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:26:29am

re: #435 galloping granny

be ready to explain just exactly WHY he needs to learn to do something.

That's the hard sell.

Off to my labors; have a great day.

439 Ma Sands  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:26:45am

re: #433 Lucius Septimius

Well, maybe it is because I am not "there" in your proximity, but the thoughts are crowding in: set him to (what's he interested in?) whittling a set of golf clubs......or studying the history of golf players.....or dreaming up a plan to earn the money to get to take a trip to play golf....or....or..... :)

440 rightside  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:26:48am

So Happy It's Thursday!

441 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:27:43am

re: #437 galloping granny

Oh, I didn't give him that answer; he's found that out on his own. He's becoming more aware that things cost money, and some things more than others.

442 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:28:03am

re: #413 ConservativeAtheist

Been doing a bunch of research lately regarding global warming, and I just ran across a web site I found rather unbelievable. If there are any Aussies posting, I'd love to hear your comments on the state of the Australian Broadcasting Company. If this is any indication, the US mainstream media may have some catching up to do to sink quite this low. Telling kids at what age they should die to stop contributing to global warming. Unbelievable. My kids should have died at age 1.5 according to these buffoons.

It tells me I should die at 3.3 years of age.

443 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:28:31am

re: #438 Lucius Septimius

That's the hard sell.

Off to my labors; have a great day.

Lucius, if you can't sell it then maybe it really is not necessary.

Have a nice day!

444 Ma Sands  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:29:04am

re: #437 galloping granny

Hey! You type faster than me! ):


/ :)

445 Lucius Septimius  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:29:28am

re: #439 Ma Sands

Well, maybe it is because I am not "there" in your proximity, but the thoughts are crowding in: set him to (what's he interested in?) whittling a set of golf clubs......or studying the history of golf players.....or dreaming up a plan to earn the money to get to take a trip to play golf....or....or..... :)

I've got some ideas; my biggest problems are time and money -- with the other three and work I don't have much time. And lessons are, at this point out of the question, especially since he's not really old enough to start earning any money.

446 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:29:54am

re: #441 Lucius Septimius

Oh, I didn't give him that answer; he's found that out on his own. He's becoming more aware that things cost money, and some things more than others.

Then perhaps this is his idea of a "joke." We lived through some really terrible ones when the kiddo was a few years younger.

447 Ma Sands  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:31:04am

re: #445 Lucius Septimius

I doubt he'd stand for the discipline of lessons anyway..... :)

You're doing well.....

448 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:31:26am

re: #444 Ma Sands

Hey! You type faster than me! ):


/ :)

I learned to type when I was 3 - literally. I could read but I did not have the fine motor skills to write well, so my mother taught me to type on the spare typewriter in her office.

449 laZardo  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:31:56am

re: #448 galloping granny

I was typing 55 (WPM that is) in middle school.

450 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:32:37am

German Postal Service Admits Inadvertently Printing Hess Stamp

Germany's national postal service has been misused by Neo-Nazis to make stamps of one of the most senior Nazis in the Third Reich. Twenty stamps bearing a portrait of Rudolf Hess were sent out by Deutsche Post.

OOPS!

451 Ma Sands  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:32:42am

re: #448 galloping granny

(Now you've made me homesick, mentioning typewriters.......I could not bear to see them superseded..... ):

452 jorline  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:33:45am

Good morning lizards.

OT...come on Mitt!

[Link: elections.foxnews.com...]

453 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:34:13am

re: #449 laZardo

I was typing 55 (WPM that is) in middle school.

That isn't a surprise. My kids were like that. The granddaughter that I homeschool rattles the keyboard as fast as her mother does - faster sometimes. Over 100 WPM when she is on a roll.

454 Ma Sands  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:34:49am

re: #450 Bubblehead II

Wow. Getting into all the little n*****lty places, just like the Islamists.....

455 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:35:19am

re: #451 Ma Sands

(Now you've made me homesick, mentioning typewriters.......I could not bear to see them superseded..... ):

I was just thinking of my Mom, who typed even on a manual like a blaze of lightning. Almost musical. Keyboards just don't have that sound.

456 Ma Sands  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:38:30am

re: #455 galloping granny

My Mom was fast, too......she'd been secretary to the Secretary of State at the White House............me and my sister were just talking the other day, as I was regaling her with tales of life at lgf :) , how, if our Mom hadn't turned away from "new fangled inventions", she would have loved the internet, because she could type so fast and had such a wry sense of humor.....

457 jorline  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:39:38am

Even the NYT's global edition has the story.

wanting to be fair and balanced...lol

[Link: www.iht.com...]

458 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:43:07am
459 Ma Sands  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:44:24am

re: #458 savage_nation

Came to a place, in the book I was reading last night, of what to do if someone rudely gets in line in front of you! :)

460 formercorpsman  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:45:07am

Great article.

461 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:45:10am
462 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:45:35am

re: #456 Ma Sands

My Mom was fast, too......she'd been secretary to the Secretary of State at the White House............me and my sister were just talking the other day, as I was regaling her with tales of life at lgf :) , how, if our Mom hadn't turned away from "new fangled inventions", she would have loved the internet, because she could type so fast and had such a wry sense of humor.....

Wouldn't it be funny if your mom and mine once knew each other?

463 Ma Sands  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:46:55am

re: #462 galloping granny

Someday we'll know......can't wait. :)

464 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:48:04am

re: #463 Ma Sands

Someday we'll know......can't wait. :)

Oh but you must. Every day is a gift. And every day that you are still waiting means that there is something for you to do here.

465 Ma Sands  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:50:18am

re: #464 galloping granny

Yup. It doesn't keep me from, sometimes more than others :) , wondering though, what could be meant by "He is preparing things better than man can conceive of, for you"....... :)

466 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:52:45am
467 laZardo  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:55:16am

re: #466 savage_nation

Little do the lefties know that country music is geared more toward female empowerment than hip-hop...

468 Ma Sands  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:56:34am

Same thing as happened to mama winger's father-in-law....... ):

469 Widow'smight  Thu, May 22, 2008 5:58:51am

re: #466 savage_nation

That one has been out for awhile, you're kinda behind the times gramps. Bring your jacket if your coming out here, although it's supposed to warm up this weekend.

470 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:00:42am
471 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:01:52am
472 realwest  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:02:00am

Good morning all y'all - from a warm (56 degrees, going up to 82 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!

How is everyone this fine morning?

473 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:02:59am

re: #472 realwest

Good morning all y'all - from a warm (56 degrees, going up to 82 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!

How is everyone this fine morning?

We all seem to be fine - you?

474 Ma Sands  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:03:17am

re: #472 realwest

Well, I, at least, am mourning for Steven Curtis Chapman's family.....

475 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:03:41am
476 loppyd  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:03:58am

Good Morning Lizard Nation!

Jeez, ya think?

Is MSNBC a Political Liability to NBC?


MNSBC is NBC’s cable news offshoot, and a longtime runner-up behind Fox News Channel and CNN. Although it has seen its ratings rise as hosts like Mr. Olbermann have shown a more explicit point of view, the down side is that the news division has clearly grown more vulnerable to complaints about partisanship.
477 sparrowlake  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:04:08am

Good morning lizards.
Here is yet another example of Olmert's desperate attempts to hang on to power - this time by giving in to the self-destructive political meddling of the Israeli religious right.

Israeli Government Panders to Ultra-Orthodox by Firing Pro-Conversion Rabbi
"This will be seen as the government's surrender in face of a haredi attack against the conversion authority and the converts. This is another one of the government's poor attempts at survival by pleasing extreme orthodox circles, which anyway do not recognize the state's authority to convert. [Prime Minister Ehud] Olmert should take an exceptional step and cancel [Druckman's] dismissal forthwith."
478 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:04:16am

Hitler Slogan Lands Fire Brigade in Hot Water

A volunteer fire brigade from a village in eastern Germany is in trouble after showing up to a local competition with an infamous motto of the Hitler youth on the backs of their polo shirts, written in Gothic script.

479 Ma Sands  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:05:08am

re: #475 savage_nation

Christian singer.......my youngest son sang one of his songs.......see comment #468.......

480 Widow'smight  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:05:41am

re: #468 Ma Sands

Wow, that's terrible. I like his stuff.

481 laZardo  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:06:19am

re: #472 realwest

Cynical as always, you? ^-^

482 loppyd  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:06:47am

No doubt Barry will put his hands over his very large ears and say "la la la la la la I don't hear you" to this:

Kennedy Talked, Khrushchev Triumphed

But Kennedy’s one presidential meeting with Nikita Khrushchev, the Soviet premier, suggests that there are legitimate reasons to fear negotiating with one’s adversaries. Although Kennedy was keenly aware of some of the risks of such meetings — his Harvard thesis was titled “Appeasement at Munich” — he embarked on a summit meeting with Khrushchev in Vienna in June 1961, a move that would be recorded as one of the more self-destructive American actions of the cold war, and one that contributed to the most dangerous crisis of the nuclear age.

483 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:07:38am
484 Ma Sands  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:08:13am

re: #483 savage_nation

Yeah.

485 laZardo  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:08:38am

re: #478 Bubblehead II

Gross Gaglow's fire chief Jochen Schubert, 42, told Bild newspaper: "We've had the shirts for a year. We didn't know where the slogan came from."

"We know nothing! NOTHING!"

486 loppyd  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:09:03am

Obama's Troubling Instincts

SNIP


On Sunday at a stop in Oregon, Sen. Obama was dismissive of the threats posed by Iran, North Korea, Venezuela, Cuba and Syria. That's the same Iran whose Quds Force is arming and training insurgents and illegal militias in Iraq to kill American soldiers; that is supporting Hezbollah and Hamas in violent attacks on Lebanon and Israel; and that is racing to develop a nuclear weapon while threatening the "annihilation" of Israel.

By Monday in Montana, Mr. Obama recognized his error. He abruptly changed course, admitting that Iran represents a threat to the region and U.S. interests.

Voters need to ask if Sunday's comments, not Monday's correction, aren't the best evidence of his true thinking.

487 Karridine  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:09:20am

re: #466 savage_nation

Savage, that IS a great song... its the difference between the black-ink white-pages of The Great Speckled Bird and SEEING God past the pages, rising above the murmur of prayers and words, shining in bounty and grace... EVERYWHERE!

My son enters his 3rd day of high fever and related stuff, but God is with us! It is a GREAT LIFE, Old Son!

He'll be fine, I'll be back, y'all be good!

488 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:09:25am
489 Widow'smight  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:09:50am

re: #477 sparrowlake

What/who/how was he trying to convert? Inquiring Gentiles want to know.

490 Ma Sands  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:11:16am

re: #478 Bubblehead II

Hmmmm.........that's two "accidently's" this morning you've posted --both in Germany............how many Jewish people are there in Germany.....? ):

491 realwest  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:12:07am

re: #473 galloping granny Wow, well I'm sure glad that all y'all are doing fine this morning!
I'm doing pretty well myself, thanks! Do have a ton of chores to do again today - I tell ya, around our household, although we do our special Memorial Day thing - the Memorial Day weekend is the weekend we take to recover from gettng ready for the weekend! LOL!

492 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:12:56am
493 realwest  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:13:56am

re: #474 Ma Sands Hey hi {Ma} - uh, I'm sorry, probably need a little more coffee to get going here, but who is Steven Curtis Chapman ?

494 Kenneth  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:14:51am

Good morning folks.

Excellent essay on the History of Fauxtography in the Lebanese War of 2006.

Af course, that's not the only such time we have seen that kind of thing. It seems there are 3 types of fauxtography.

1. Altered photographs -cloned plumes of smoke.
2. Staged scenes presented as "news" -Green Helmet man
3. Inaccurate or misleading captions or descriptions of the content of photographs.

My favorite example of the last type was on the front page of the NYT in January of 2006:

Pakistani villagers display US missile fragments

Which is obviously not a fragment of anything, but rather an old Russian artillery shell. Eventually, the NYT was forced to publish a correction, blaming AFP for the "mistake". What is astonishing about this photograph is that even a non-expert with no military experience can recognize that the munition is so obviously not a "missile fragment". And yet, because it fit the prevailing meme of the USAF indiscriminately bombing innocent villagers, the NYT ran it.

495 loppyd  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:15:06am

re: #472 {realwest}

Good Morning, Handsome!

How's by you?

496 Ma Sands  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:15:24am

re: #493 realwest

(Check comment #468.)

497 laZardo  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:16:37am

re: #494 Kenneth

A building near my college just got torn down, and I'm thinking of tossing a stuffed toy on the rubble, photographing it, captioning it with "something the IDF did" and sending it to Reuters under an alias just to see what happens.

498 realwest  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:17:20am

re: #476 loppyd Hey there {loppyd} how are you doing today goodlooking?!
Funny, Fox and Friends or whatever the Fox early morning show is called, was talking about the same thing and - although I kinda think that the blonde guy is an airhead, he was spot on with comparing the Olbermiester to Huntley and Brinkly and, as he put it, "real journalists" and then all three of them went on an incredible rant about Olberman, Matthews and others.
Love Mom - she said "who are they talking about, who is this Olberman person?" LOL!

499 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:17:37am

re: #491 realwest

Wow, well I'm sure glad that all y'all are doing fine this morning!
I'm doing pretty well myself, thanks! Do have a ton of chores to do again today - I tell ya, around our household, although we do our special Memorial Day thing - the Memorial Day weekend is the weekend we take to recover from gettng ready for the weekend! LOL!

I guess I am just old fashioned real. Memorial Day is not till May 30th or so as far as I'm concerned. :) I will spend it planting the garden. Assuming it warms up enough by then.

500 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:17:45am

re: #485 laZardo

yeah, right..... Now something from the realm of the strange and unusual.

Man charged in dildo assault

A 37-year-old man remained in police custody Tuesday, charged with a violent assault against his former girlfriend. He has testified that his only weapon was a dildo.

501 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:17:46am
502 Globular Cluster  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:18:39am

Looks like McCain has narrowed it down to three candidates:

[Link: elections.foxnews.com...]

I vote for Romney.

503 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:18:42am

re: #497 laZardo

A building near my college just got torn down, and I'm thinking of tossing a stuffed toy on the rubble, photographing it, captioning it with "something the IDF did" and sending it to Reuters under an alias just to see what happens.

that would be funny as all heck!

504 Kenneth  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:21:23am

Mookie's going down for The Long Count

The timing of Tuesday’s operation was kept secret. Late Monday night, the Americans removed slabs in the concrete wall they had erected to cordon the neighborhood, in order that Iraqi forces could pass through. American M-1 tanks guarded the gaps throughout the rest of the night until the offensive began. ...

All told, six Iraqi battalions advanced north on six parallel routes. At full strength, an Iraqi battalion consists of about 700 troops. Two Iraqi companies ventured even farther north to secure the Iman Ali Hospital and two other sites.

It's getting harder and harder to maintain the fiction that the Surge has succeeded only because Moqtada al-Sadr has magnanimously allowed it to flourish.

Wow! Even the NYT seems to have noticed that the Iraqi army is winning.

505 realwest  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:21:56am

re: #481 laZardo LOL! Still only half awake, as always! LOL!

506 loppyd  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:22:14am

re: #502 Globular Cluster

Looks like McCain has narrowed it down to three candidates:

[Link: elections.foxnews.com...]

I vote for Romney.

I am trying not to get too excited only to get my hopes crushed, but man that would be awesome!

Romney on the ticket would bring out the base. It was the base that won the election for Bush in 04 even though the MSM would like us to believe it was because of those "crazy bible thumping Evangelicals."

507 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:22:17am
508 Kenneth  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:22:18am

re: #497 laZardo

They would indeed print it without question. "To good to check" is the expression journalists use for that sort of thing.

509 Kenneth  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:24:26am

re: #506 loppyd

Romney is the outstanding choice. Not only would he boost the electability of McCain in 2008, & be a great VP, & he would make a great presidential candidate in 2012.

510 realwest  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:24:33am

re: #486 loppyd LOPPYD! HOW DARE YOU - mentioning Obama and
thinking in the same post?!?
This guy is just another snake oil salesman, period, that's all folks.

511 loppyd  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:25:30am

re: #509 Kenneth

Romney is the outstanding choice. Not only would he boost the electability of McCain in 2008, & be a great VP, & he would make a great presidential candidate in 2012.

Exactly!

Again, trying not to get too excited.

513 realwest  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:25:58am

re: #496 Ma Sands

(ok).

514 Kenneth  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:27:43am

re: #511 loppyd

On the other hand, it would almost be worth it to have Joe Leiberman, just so we can hear all the anti-Semitic garbage spewing from Obama's supporters at Daily Kos.

515 opinionated  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:27:54am

Fashion wars / U.S. store pulls 'pro-violence' Palestinian T-shirt

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

516 Ma Sands  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:28:29am

re: #512 Bubblehead II

Well, then, something's not computing, there.....


Thank you.

517 laZardo  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:28:40am

re: #503 galloping granny

re: #508 Kenneth

re: #501 savage_nation

And if I'm ever found out, at the most I'll get a letter politely telling me not to publish with them again. LOL.

518 saberry0530  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:28:59am

re: #510 realwest

LOPPYD! HOW DARE YOU - mentioning Obama and
thinking in the same post?!?
This guy is just another snake oil salesman, period, that's all folks.

Hey Real, I was thinking communist socialist asshat, but snake oil saleman will also work.

519 laZardo  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:29:02am

re: #505 realwest

I tried playing the CHANGE! drinking game yesterday. Go figure. ;)

520 realwest  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:29:11am

re: #509 Kenneth

Romney is the outstanding choice. Not only would he boost the electability of McCain in 2008, & be a great VP, & he would make a great presidential candidate in 2012.


I agree with you and loppyd, but have to wonder about a Romney VP candidacy would go over with certain elements of the Conservative Right - his Mormonism seemed to be a problem for him during the primaries.

521 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:30:13am
522 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:30:37am

re: #517 laZardo

re: #508 Kenneth

re: #501 savage_nation

And if I'm ever found out, at the most I'll get a letter politely telling me not to publish with them again. LOL.

"If" you are ever found out? I would do it deliberately, wait until the picture had been published, and then publish the truth myself.

523 sparrowlake  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:31:05am

re: #489 Widow'smight

What/who/how was he trying to convert? Inquiring Gentiles want to know.

I'm no rabbinical authority, but my understanding is that this Rabbi Druckman has over the past 10+ years performed many hundreds of conversions of Israelis, including many immigrants who have wished to undergo conversion to orthodox Judaism. Many of these converts were non-Jewish spouses or non-Orthodox Jews. Then for some reason a panel of Orthodox Rabbis overturned one of Druckman's conversions on the basis that his methods were not up to snuff, thereby calling into question all his previous conversions.
Now we read that Olmert fired Druckman after recently extending his contract, probably as a result of ultra-orthodox political pressure.
The thing that burns my ass is that Israel desperately needs to encourage, not discourage, Jewish immigration and conversions in order to counter the existential threat posed by the explosive Muslim-Israeli birthrates.
Go figure.

524 Ma Sands  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:32:28am

re: #522 galloping granny

But, he'd have to word the original letter to Reuters in such a way that he can waffle out of meaning the obvious, later....... :)

525 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:33:48am
526 realwest  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:33:56am

re: #518 saberry0530
Good morning! Yup, I've been thinking about this for a while now - he doesn't have ANY firm positions at all politically, can't speak "off the cuff" any better than my 15 year old neice (although she too is very bright and presentable!) and changes what he says he said more often than the Great Flipper, John Effin' Kerry.
Can't talk away from the scripted speech, promise CHANGE and things will be better but can't anwser questions for which he doesn't have a pre-scripted response = snake oil salesman in my book. a VERY successful snake oil salesman, but still that's all he is and all he's ever gonna be.

527 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:35:05am
528 Kenneth  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:36:41am

The Accidental Foreign Policy by Matthew Yglesias

How an early gaffe and an excruciatingly long primary season helped Barack Obama find a distinctive voice on foreign affairs

...or how a liberal journalist paints lipstick on a pig. In case you miss it, Yglesias actually thinks Obama's "foreign policy" ideas are good:

Today, Obama calls not only for direct negotiations with leaders of rogue states, but also for an American commitment to eventual global nuclear disarmament (in part to reinvigorate nonproliferation efforts); a substantial rebalancing of American military priorities toward Afghanistan (and away from Iraq); a softening of the embargo on Cuba; and a widening of the current, single-minded focus on democracy promotion to include other development goals that might more effectively prevent terrorist recruitment.

...More to the point, it doesn’t heed the usual political advice that says Democrats should recoil in fear from anything that could be painted as weakness.

Note the high lighted point: what it says is that Obama is against promoting democracy in the Muslim world. In other words, he'll be happy to hand Iraq over to a theocratic puppet regime controlled by Iran if it gets US troops out faster.

529 laZardo  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:36:58am

re: #525 savage_nation

Can't I just take my pictures?

530 realwest  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:37:03am

Gotta go get some more coffee BBIAM - [Link: www.imeem.com...]

531 Kenneth  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:38:07am

re: #517 laZardo

And if I'm ever found out, at the most I'll get a letter politely telling me not to publish with them again. LOL.

Found out? Buddy, they'll offer you a rich contract!

532 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:38:58am

Fly the friendly skies...

Airline Pilot Charged After Naked Nighttime Romp

Police arrested Pinnacle Airlines pilot Jeffrey Bradford and flight attendant Adrianna Connor after a nighttime frolic in a Pennsylvania forest.

Officers say Bradford just had on a pair flip-flops and his watch.

Police say they made the arrests after responding to complaints about a naked man and drunken woman in the woods.

Bradford is charged with indecent exposure, public drunkenness and other offenses.

The charges against Connor also include public drunkenness.

A spokesman for the airline says the two are suspended while the investigation continues.

533 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:39:19am
534 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:39:56am
535 Kenneth  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:40:09am

re: #520 realwest

I agree with you and loppyd, but have to wonder about a Romney VP candidacy would go over with certain elements of the Conservative Right - his Mormonism seemed to be a problem for him during the primaries.

Well, they will just have to decide which they fear more: a Mormon VP or a Black Liberation Theology (and apostate/taqayya Muslim) president.

536 Roger  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:42:11am

re: #520 realwest

He has to word it in a way so as to point out he is 99% business man and Governor and 1% Mormon. He could use Romans 13 to good effect in the Conservative Right. They'd get the message and they do admire his business savvy, family and work ethic.

537 Endangered in MASS  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:43:08am

re: #482 loppyd

He may not have learned as much from his thesis as they say since some else probably wrote it. He was busy playing hide the bratwurst with a German spy at the time.... amongst others.

538 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:43:48am
539 Ma Sands  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:43:56am

re: #534 taxfreekiller

I thought I read last night that the amnesty portion got knocked off the Iraq funding bill.........I guess that wasn't the whole mess, then.....

540 realwest  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:45:07am

OK - listen up all you music heathens! LOL! This group uses NO musical instruments at all and y'all ought to give this one a real listening to: [Link: www.imeem.com...]

541 Kenneth  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:45:26am

Deserter Corey Glass Rejected in Canada

(Toronto) The Immigration and Refugee Board has denied National Guard Sgt. Corey Glass' application for refugee status.

Consequently, the Canadian Border Services Agency has issued a June 12 deportation order.

Hey, you can have your moonbat back, we don't want him.

542 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:45:56am

re: #532 NJDhockeyfan

Well that beats my #500 :-)

543 WriterMom  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:46:18am

re: #477 sparrowlake

It's a horrendous situation. There are many political battles between the "National Religious" crowd in Israel and the Haredi establishments. This is a spiteful act and so many people are being mercilessly tortured for no reason. Drukman is a well-respected, knowledgable Orthodox Rabbi...it is so disgusting.

544 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:46:34am

re: #542 Bubblehead II

Well that beats my #500 :-)

LOL

545 opnion  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:47:03am

I am at the airport. They are profiling Middle Eastern appearing males for extra scrutiny.
This is happening, particularly if ther are bearded.
Come on, I"m just shitin ya. They are profiling your granny.

546 WriterMom  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:47:32am

There was an amazing article in today's National Post about a service dog for an autistic boy...I'll see if I can find it. I know there are a lot of 'dog' folks here. It almost made me cry...

547 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:47:47am

re: #526 realwest

Good morning! Yup, I've been thinking about this for a while now - he doesn't have ANY firm positions at all politically, can't speak "off the cuff" any better than my 15 year old neice (although she too is very bright and presentable!) and changes what he says he said more often than the Great Flipper, John Effin' Kerry.
Can't talk away from the scripted speech, promise CHANGE and things will be better but can't anwser questions for which he doesn't have a pre-scripted response = snake oil salesman in my book. a VERY successful snake oil salesman, but still that's all he is and all he's ever gonna be.

Real, I really wish I could do the kind of stuff that turns out YouTube videos. Did you see the pictures of The Decembrists somebody posted yesterday? Here are some -

[Link: www.aversion.com...]
[Link: files.list.co.uk...]
[Link: gothamist.com...]

And if those pictures illustrating their outright Communist point of view are not bad enough, much of their music is nothing but soviet revolutionary music slightly repackaged but still easily recognizable.

And contrary to what some people want us to believe, Obama's invite to the event did indeed contain a specific notice that The Decembrists would be playing - they just named them by individual name. This is not a band that would "draw 200 on a summer day at the park" - it is one of the biggest, hottest Indie bands on the planet who has been signed by Columbia records.

And then there is that picture of Obama's headquarters in ..... was it Orlando? The one with the Che flag prominently displayed directly behind the campaign coordinators desk?

This guy is not just a red diaper baby, not just the child of a known Communist with family ties to Kenyan terrorists, he is a Marxist straw man. The public needs to be made aware of this.

548 realwest  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:48:02am

re: #536 Roger
Roger, I don't think it matters what HE says, it's the way the MSM is gonna spin it - and I agree with TFK (#538) - go for who will lie the least, but the MSM ain't gonna like your choice if it isn't the snake oil salesman - at this point the MSM has too much invested in his election to ever be even close to impartial.

549 laZardo  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:48:03am

re: #531 Kenneth

And I won't have to beg for scraps off Bush's table to get me through college!

550 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:49:01am
551 WriterMom  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:49:32am

Here it is:

A Boy's Best Friend

552 realwest  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:50:01am

re: #541 Kenneth Damn it Kenneth - what kinda ally is Canada anyway? We can't even ship our dregs unhappy Americans to you, eh?!

553 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:50:41am

re: #541 Kenneth

Deserter Corey Glass Rejected in Canada

Hey, you can have your moonbat back, we don't want him.

Good for Canada. Of course these days there economy is pretty substantially tied to ours in a way that it was not during Vietnam.

554 Ma Sands  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:50:44am

re: #550 taxfreekiller

They had 4 on the bill, the worst was the ag amnest


Okay, thanks.......still learning, here....

555 Endangered in MASS  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:51:03am

re: #541 Kenneth

What a disgrace to the NCO Corp.

556 laZardo  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:51:28am

re: #552 realwest

Damn it Kenneth - what kinda ally is Canada anyway? We can't even ship our dregs unhappy Americans to you, eh?!

Stop using racist stereotypes!

/

557 laZardo  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:51:47am

re: #553 galloping granny

That would explain why the Canadollar is 1:1 with the US Dollar...

558 Iron Fist  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:51:57am

re: #514 Kenneth,

Remember, Lieberman is a Liberal on most issues that divide the Parties (i.e. abortion, gun control, spending, etc.). He is a hawk on the war, and the Donks have essentially excommunicated him for it, but that is all we agree on. He'd be a terrible pick for VP. I can't think of a more egregious way McCain could slap the base in the face than by choosing Lieberman as his running mate.

Which, of course, means he may very well do it.

559 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:52:44am

re: #545 opnion

I am at the airport. They are profiling Middle Eastern appearing males for extra scrutiny.
This is happening, particularly if ther are bearded.
Come on, I"m just shitin ya. They are profiling your granny.

I heard somewhere (here) that TSA is prohibited from screening more than two obvious muslims per flight. No matter what.

560 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:53:10am
561 realwest  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:53:22am

re: #546 WriterMom Hey there WriterMom - Mom and I were over at the hospital yesterday (tests for Mom) and saw a "service" dog - a beautiful clean and golden yellow retriever - I asked if he was working and the woman said yes, thanks for asking but his job is to bring some happiness to the ill, by being petted so go ahead if you want to." So, of course, I did - and I gotta tell ya that dog REALLY likes being petted! LOL! And after about 10 seconds, I was a lot calmer than I've been in days!

562 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:53:47am
563 Kenneth  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:54:06am

re: #552 realwest

The irony is we can deport American deserters who pose no threat to us, but we can't deport Al Qaeda terrorists who are a threat.

564 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:54:13am
565 Roger  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:54:22am

re: #548 realwest

Ever sit around a Conservative Right dinner table? They growl at the MSM.

566 Miss Trixie  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:54:58am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning, {lizards}! &#9836 &#9834

Another grey, cold day in the Valley but it’s looking up for the weekend with plenty of sinshine to enjoy.

Yay! Looking forward to my first tan line of the year. :D

{realwest} Good morning *smoooooooochy-smoooooooch-SMOOOOOOOOCH!*

What’s going on these days, luv?

567 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:55:28am
568 opnion  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:55:28am

re: #559 galloping granny

I heard somewhere (here) that TSA is prohibited from screening more than two obvious muslims per flight. No matter what.


Actually, I think that it is slightly higher but not much.
The policy was instituted by former Trans Sec Minetta.
He had very hard feelings about his father being intered after Pearl Harbor.

569 jorline  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:55:29am

Wake-up music for a Thursday morning.

get a cup of joe and crank it up!

570 WriterMom  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:56:06am

re: #559 galloping granny

There is no way that is a regulation. There are some stupid idiots governing these bodies-but if that is in writing somewhere, I'll eat my hat.

571 WriterMom  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:56:47am

re: #563 Kenneth

Correct. Because that would be Islamophobic.

What do you need your head for anyway?

572 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:56:55am

Morning Lizards!

Speaking of Lebanon Wars, is there a good, even-handed book about the 1982 war? The ones I've seen all seem to portray Israel as the bad guy.

573 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:56:59am
574 loppyd  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:57:09am

re: #510 realwest

LOPPYD! HOW DARE YOU - mentioning Obama and
thinking in the same post?!?
This guy is just another snake oil salesman, period, that's all folks.

His arrogance enrages me.

575 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:57:30am

re: #570 WriterMom

There is no way that is a regulation. There are some stupid idiots governing these bodies-but if that is in writing somewhere, I'll eat my hat.

See opnion's comment. I do not know if it is true, but I did read it here a few months back. If push comes to shove, I have a contact in the TSA that I can ask on the QT. I suspect that it is true, however.

576 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:57:37am
577 laZardo  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:58:12am

re: #565 Roger

I would somehow imagine it sounds like the growling lefties make at "Faux News."

578 Ma Sands  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:58:20am

re: #559 galloping granny

Oh, good grief!

579 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:58:22am

re: #574 loppyd

His arrogance enrages me.

Shut up and eat your waffles!

580 loppyd  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:58:56am

re: #520 realwest

I agree with you and loppyd, but have to wonder about a Romney VP candidacy would go over with certain elements of the Conservative Right - his Mormonism seemed to be a problem for him during the primaries.

If his Mormonism is an issue than Obama's church is fair game. I think we know who will win that fight every time.

581 opnion  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:59:18am

re: #570 WriterMom

There is no way that is a regulation. There are some stupid idiots governing these bodies-but if that is in writing somewhere, I'll eat my hat.


It is or at least was formal TSA policy. I asaw Mineta interviewed about it.
I don't think that it has changed.

582 Ma Sands  Thu, May 22, 2008 6:59:58am

re: #567 taxfreekiller

Sorry, tfk.......no matter what, I will not ask. :)

583 loppyd  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:00:00am

re: #537 Endangered in MASS

He may not have learned as much from his thesis as they say since some else probably wrote it. He was busy playing hide the bratwurst with a German spy at the time.... amongst others.

I thought that was his father? No?

D'OH

584 loppyd  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:01:02am

re: #514 Kenneth

On the other hand, it would almost be worth it to have Joe Leiberman, just so we can hear all the anti-Semitic garbage spewing from Obama's supporters at Daily Kos.

I'd rather skip that....

585 jorline  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:02:15am

Someone yesterday was asking if BHO had a theme song...yes he does

586 Roger  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:02:58am

re: #577 laZardo

No, much more guttural and lower pitched.

587 laZardo  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:05:25am

re: #572 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

In a moment of utter shame, I confess my godmother worked for the UN mission there during those years, and if I recall she was stationed on the Israel side of the border.

588 realwest  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:07:14am

re: #558 Iron Fist Hey Bro'! You're right about Lieberman's credentials as a domestic liberal with a capital L, but ya know, as much as a slap at conservatives as McCain already is, Joe would make a good VP nominee to attract all those dissatisfied Donk's from Hillary's camp. Can't bring yourself to vote for Obama (well, naturally, can't think of one reason to vote FOR him) then vote for "old man" McCain and maybe get Lieberman as POTUS (God forbid anything should happend to McCain).
Of course, Joe is a Jew, so we can forget about attracting any really Left Wing Dems but still, the "centrist" Dems and all 5 of the Conservative Dem voters in the country and the Independents would like him a lot as the VP nominee.

589 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:07:18am
590 realwest  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:07:54am

OK, last time - WAKE UP ALL Y'ALL! [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

591 loppyd  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:08:18am

Off to the bank, P.O. and such.

BBL

592 vxbush  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:09:07am

re: #590 realwest

OK, last time - WAKE UP ALL Y'ALL! [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Oh, I'm awake. The never-ending saga of VX's medical trials continues. Now I'm pretty sure I broke a toe. I'm starting to think I should just stay in my bed and avoid reality!

593 Miss Trixie  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:09:08am

Tarek Fatah is scheduled to discuss his new book, "Chasing a Mirage", and to discuss why muslims should integrate into Western society, among other things. You can listen here. The radio host – who is a bit of a Melvin Q. Milquetoast IMO - is a fill-in for fireball Lowell Green.

Should be interesting and I can hear the seething begin ...

594 sparrowlake  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:09:09am

re: #551 WriterMom

Here it is:
A Boy's Best Friend

What a great story!
Now we'll see how long it takes for some Muslim asshat to complain that the service dog should not be allowed to sit on the sidewalk.

595 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:09:43am

1 NATO soldier killed in Quran protest

KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) - Gunfire broke out Thursday at a protest in western Afghanistan against a U.S. sniper in Iraq who used a Quran for target practice and officials said a NATO soldier and two civilians were killed.

Barbarians.

596 alegrias  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:10:19am

re: #535 Kenneth

Well, they will just have to decide which they fear more: a Mormon VP or a Black Liberation Theology (and apostate/taqayya Muslim) president.

* * *
Morning Y'all--Kenneth, you are so succinct, that's it in a nutshell.

Is there any doubt who puts AMERICA first? Romney was willing to bug mosques in Massachusetts, if they spouted or espoused radical violence. Romney acknowledges there is a big threat to the West we know & love, that must be fought & beaten.

If conservatives can't decide between Romney and the junior senator from IL after all the facts Charles Johnson and the media have reported...

597 Ma Sands  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:10:40am

re: #592 vxbush

Aw, that must hurt! I broke one once, in karate class.....

598 laZardo  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:10:47am

re: #590 realwest

And with that all-caps comment, I shall proceed to head down the street to Starbucks with my bro and get me some blended cream (fancy-ass term for a milkshake) before I head back here and collapse on my bed under the burden of cynicism. Good night all!

599 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:10:49am
600 realwest  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:11:03am

re: #566 Miss Trixie Whoa! gets up from floor, mops brow - hey *smooooooch* back atcha! And good morning to you too! I be doing ok, thanks - how's about you?
Weather nice enough up there for you and Lil Miss to go out and terrorize the 'hood?! LOL!

601 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:11:09am

re: #588 realwest

Hey Bro'! You're right about Lieberman's credentials as a domestic liberal with a capital L, but ya know, as much as a slap at conservatives as McCain already is, Joe would make a good VP nominee to attract all those dissatisfied Donk's from Hillary's camp. Can't bring yourself to vote for Obama (well, naturally, can't think of one reason to vote FOR him) then vote for "old man" McCain and maybe get Lieberman as POTUS (God forbid anything should happend to McCain).
Of course, Joe is a Jew, so we can forget about attracting any really Left Wing Dems but still, the "centrist" Dems and all 5 of the Conservative Dem voters in the country and the Independents would like him a lot as the VP nominee.

Also note that when the Dems through Lieberman under the bus and tried to take his seat, he came right back as an Independent and kept it anyway. That needs to be considered.

Something else to be considered: Over the last few years we have seen several formerly Democrat congressmen leave the party and keep their seats as Independents. Currently, they all caucus with the Dems. It might be beneficial to help them move more openly towards a more conservative point of view.

602 vxbush  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:11:29am

re: #597 Ma Sands

Aw, that must hurt! I broke one once, in karate class.....

Here's the frustrating thing: it's the second toe of my left foot. And I drive a stickshift. Driving has become something of an art form.

603 BFSkinner  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:12:12am

Howdy everyone.

604 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:12:14am

re: #595 NJDhockeyfan

1 NATO soldier killed in Quran protest

Barbarians.

I hate to say I said this would happen, but I DID say this would happen. . . .

605 lawhawk  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:12:59am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. I see that the Palestinians continue to try killing as many Israelis as possible. This time, it's a suicide truck bombing at Erez Crossing. The truck was carrying 4 tons of explosives.

No Israelis were injured in the attack, but it could have been catastrophic. And apparently, it was meant to confuse Israelis operating there so that another team of terrorists could try and kidnap Israeli soldiers.

Yes, they certainly do want peace alright. Israelis in pieces, that is.

606 Roger  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:13:27am

Have a Romney type come in there swinging punches for Change were the change is government accountability; for a Department of Fiscal Responsibility and the conservatives just might get out and vote.

Otherwise I predict Barry in a land slide. Then ~1.5 years in, a massive US upheaval like hasn't been seen in 144 years.

607 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:13:28am

re: #596 alegrias

* * *
Morning Y'all--Kenneth, you are so succinct, that's it in a nutshell.

Is there any doubt who puts AMERICA first? Romney was willing to bug mosques in Massachusetts, if they spouted or espoused radical violence. Romney acknowledges there is a big threat to the West we know & love, that must be fought & beaten.

If conservatives can't decide between Romney and the junior senator from IL after all the facts Charles Johnson and the media have reported...

I agree. Romney has a pretty bad track record in Massachusetts.

608 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:13:35am
609 vxbush  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:13:51am

re: #603 BFSkinner

Howdy everyone.

Morning, BF....[shakes hand]

610 Sharmuta  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:14:40am

re: #558 Iron Fist

,

Remember, Lieberman is a Liberal on most issues that divide the Parties (i.e. abortion, gun control, spending, etc.). He is a hawk on the war, and the Donks have essentially excommunicated him for it, but that is all we agree on. He'd be a terrible pick for VP. I can't think of a more egregious way McCain could slap the base in the face than by choosing Lieberman as his running mate.

Which, of course, means he may very well do it.

I couldn't agree with you more. As much as I respect Senator Lieberman, he's just not the man to go with. If mccain wants a VP that will bring in a lot of votes from the other side, he should go with Rudy. I spoke to a liberal just yesterday who was all ready to vote for Mayor Giuliani, but alas- she can't.

611 BFSkinner  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:14:41am

re: #609 vxbush

Morning, BF....[shakes hand]

Hello hello. I hope all is well? Finally warming up again here in metro Chicago.

612 Ma Sands  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:14:41am

re: #602 vxbush

Hmmmm.......speaking of the use of that left foot in driving.......mine got so lonesome after the automatic drives came in, that it just automatically picked up on being the braking foot.......my kids buy that & don't copy it....... :)

613 realwest  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:14:48am

re: #573 savage_nation
Hi ya Savage! Yep, that's the dogs' job title and they do it VERY WELL. They now even have them for folks who have agoraphobia (isn't that the term for folks who are nervous, to say the least, about being outside?) and other "mental health issues" and they really do work.

IF y'all haven't ever watched it, try watching the "Dog Whisperer" on the National Geographic channel - Friday nights at 8:00PM for an hour and freqeuently a repeat episode at 9:00PM - GREAT SHOW!

614 Endangered in MASS  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:15:05am

re: #574 loppyd

"His arrogance enrages me."

Hater.

615 realwest  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:16:47am

re: #585 jorline HEY! I'm trying to work this corner! LOL! Just kidding, ever since WLGF has been busy working on her blog, I miss the music in the mornings!

616 vxbush  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:17:00am

re: #605 lawhawk

The truck was carrying 4 tons of explosives.

Egads. That could have been horrific.

617 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:17:02am

re: #605 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. I see that the Palestinians continue to try killing as many Israelis as possible. This time, it's a suicide truck bombing at Erez Crossing. The truck was carrying 4 tons of explosives.

No Israelis were injured in the attack, but it could have been catastrophic. And apparently, it was meant to confuse Israelis operating there so that another team of terrorists could try and kidnap Israeli soldiers.

Yes, they certainly do want peace alright. Israelis in pieces, that is.

Isn't Erez the crossing that Condi Rice is insisting Israel open?

618 Honorary Yooper  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:17:05am

re: #611 BFSkinner

Hello hello. I hope all is well? Finally warming up again here in metro Chicago.

All's not too bad, down here in SW 'burbs. The Stevenson sucked though, this morning. Thank goodness I don't have to go all the way in, inside of the Tri-State.

Supposed to be a very nice weekend. Something like 75-80 degrees out.

619 vxbush  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:17:31am

re: #611 BFSkinner

Hello hello. I hope all is well? Finally warming up again here in metro Chicago.

We had a lovely day down here in mid-state Illinois yesterday, and we're supposed to have the same today. Other than the broken toe, I'm doing well. You?

620 alegrias  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:17:32am

re: #547 galloping granny

* * *
Spain's red diaper baby Prime Minister Zapatero is also an appeaser who negotiated without precondition with Spain's basque terrorist organization, who just keep blowing people up, imagine that.

Terrorist ETA which was almost beaten in Spain during previous administrations, is now out of control despite talks talks talks and incentives and get-out-of-jail free pardons, all thanks to appeasenik red diaper Zapatero.

THere's a lesson for us here. CHANGE IS GOING TO COME is just another word for Fidel's VIVA LA REVOLUCION!

621 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:17:33am
622 vxbush  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:18:02am

re: #612 Ma Sands

Hmmmm.......speaking of the use of that left foot in driving.......mine got so lonesome after the automatic drives came in, that it just automatically picked up on being the braking foot.......my kids buy that & don't copy it....... :)

Heh. When I drive my son around in the big van we have, I have to force myself to keep my left foot down. :D

623 BFSkinner  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:18:10am

I know this is not on topic, but if you're in need for a quick chuckle or two A good Star Trek / Python Blend

624 realwest  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:19:05am

re: #590 realwest PIMF
damnit: [Link: www.imeem.com...]

625 vxbush  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:19:17am

Oh--haven't looked at the linkviewer, but I hope people will remember to pray for Steven Curtis Chapman's family. A horrible accident at their home resulted in the death of the five-year-old.

626 CAD Daddy  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:19:20am

Great stuff. (What I read of it.)
But somebody isn't clear on the concept of concise.

627 BFSkinner  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:19:25am

re: #618 Honorary Yooper

All's not too bad, down here in SW 'burbs. The Stevenson sucked though, this morning. Thank goodness I don't have to go all the way in, inside of the Tri-State.

Supposed to be a very nice weekend. Something like 75-80 degrees out.

One advantage to getting to work from home I guess... though it gets old after the first week. NW Burb of Buffalo Grove/Arlington Heights here.

628 realwest  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:20:00am

re: #592 vxbush Ah geez {vxbush} how the hell did ya break a toe?

629 BFSkinner  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:20:13am

re: #619 vxbush

We had a lovely day down here in mid-state Illinois yesterday, and we're supposed to have the same today. Other than the broken toe, I'm doing well. You?

I am alive, both cats are OK, Obama is not president, so all in all I am OK, I guess. :)

630 Honorary Yooper  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:20:29am

re: #627 BFSkinner

One advantage to getting to work from home I guess... though it gets old after the first week. NW Burb of Buffalo Grove/Arlington Heights here.

Joliet here, work up in Burr Ridge.

631 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:20:41am

re: #626 CAD Daddy

Great stuff. (What I read of it.)
But somebody isn't clear on the concept of concise.

Sure they are. You can actually read it online, rather than having to buy a 700 page tome.

632 DesertSage  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:20:53am

I want to go for a ride. In a big truck. Across the country.

Maybe I can hitch a ride with savage? (although I'd probably end up smacking him upside his head).

Oh well....Hitchen' A Ride

633 jorline  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:21:23am

re: #615 realwest

HEY! I'm trying to work this corner! LOL! Just kidding, ever since WLGF has been busy working on her blog, I miss the music in the mornings!

LOL...someone posted ELO yesterday and I listened to various clips all day. Just thought I would return the favor.

/ walks across the street to the opposite street corner.

634 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:21:38am

re: #605 lawhawk

Soldiers opened fire at the truck, causing it to detonate early.
The crossing is closed "until repairs can be made"
It should STAY closed.

635 vxbush  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:21:53am

re: #628 realwest

Ah geez {vxbush} how the hell did ya break a toe?

Oh, you know me. I have great abilities to hurt myself when the circumstances allow. I was moving some equipment and had stacked these small but heavy boxes on a dolly. Had no problem loading the dolly or moving it or even stopping it carefully, but when I started to unload the stack, a box below the one I was grabbing slipped and landed on my left foot. I think the boxes were 10 pounds at most. But it landed point down right on my toe.

636 Just_A_Grunt  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:22:07am

My take away from the report is this. Notice that everyone of the bloggers cited were from the conservative side of the spectrum. I hope that in researching the paper they did indeed try to find some from the liberal side but as we all know they distanced themselves from the fauxtography scandals and acted as apologists.
I was surprised that almost everyone of the blogs noted I read, if not a daily basis, then very frequently.
Good to see a lot of the folks who frequent here also mentioned.
Congrats to Charles and all of the other folks who did the legwork outlined in the report.
I wonder if they will do a follow up on Zombies street fair series?

637 laZardo  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:22:08am

re: #620 alegrias

And it was El Rey himself who told Chavez to STFU, not Zapatero.

638 realwest  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:22:11am

re: #603 BFSkinner Hey good morning back atcha! How are you this fine day?

639 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:22:21am

Pastor supporting McCain calls Islam ``evil" and ``anti-Christ"

Remember the troubles Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama had over his relationship with The Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Republican presidential nominee John McCain could face his own firestorm with a pastor he calls a spiritual guide.

McCain, who has made calls for diplomacy to win the hearts and minds of the Islamic world, has the endorsement of evangelical pastor Rod Parsley, whom the candidate recently introduced as ``one of the truly great leaders in America, a moral compass, a spiritual guide."

Parsley, pastor of the World Harvest Church of Ohio, has denounced Islam as ``evil and anti-Christ."

Brian Ross, chief investigative reporter for ABC News, says that Parsley has made no secret of his feelings that Islam is the enemy.

``Islam is an anti-Christ religion that intends through violence to conquer the world," Parsley has said. ``America was founded in part with the intention of seeing this false religion destroyed."

He also has said, ``I will rail against the idea that the God of Christianity and the God of Islam are the same being. I will sound the alarm about the pernicious agendas of the enemies of my country and the cross of my Christ, and I will proclaim the truth at every opportunity."

640 alegrias  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:22:34am

re: #607 galloping granny

I agree. Romney has a pretty bad track record in Massachusetts.

* * *
Granny, I love you but if you've got grudges against main stream Mr. Romney over his religious beliefs which as far as I can tell he doesn't push on us, we're gonna have to respectfully disagree.

MITT ROMNEY's devotion to America makes me proud to be an American.

641 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:22:50am

re: #608 savage_nation

Muslims can all fuck off already. How anyone can be offended by a dog is something I'll never understand....

Dogs are real good judges of character. 'Nuff said.

642 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:22:52am

re: #634 Kosh's Shadow

Soldiers opened fire at the truck, causing it to detonate early.
The crossing is closed "until repairs can be made"
It should STAY closed.

I imagine those repairs could be made to last years. Kind of like pot holes in New England.

643 jorline  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:22:58am

re: #617 galloping granny

Isn't Erez the crossing that Condi Rice is insisting Israel open?


ROP...was Jimmy driving the truck?

644 Ma Sands  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:23:09am

(I finally was able to reach my youngest son, to find out which of Steven Curtis Chapman's songs is in his own repertoire.....)

645 blue_like_jazz  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:23:43am

re: #625 vxbush

that is a terrible tragedy. can you imagine the guilt he feels?

may God show Himself strong to the family!

646 BFSkinner  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:23:57am

re: #638 realwest

Hey good morning back atcha! How are you this fine day?


Doing well, thanks. No conference calls scheduled, so can get some real work done. Anyone want to write up some white papers or reports for me? We can divide them up evenly?

647 Endangered in MASS  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:24:24am

re: #583 loppyd


The father was schtupping Gloria Swanson and advocating that we ally ourselves with Hitler.

648 Kenneth  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:24:38am

re: #565 Roger

Ever sit around a Conservative Right Liberal Left dinner table? They growl grovel at the MSM.

649 vxbush  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:25:16am

re: #645 blue_like_jazz

that is a terrible tragedy. can you imagine the guilt he feels?

may God show Himself strong to the family!

I've been praying for the family all day. I can't imagine how bad that son feels. He is going to need a lot of loving from his father to get through this.

650 Kenneth  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:25:46am
651 realwest  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:26:48am

re: #610 Sharmuta Hey Sharm! Rudy was my first choice when all this primary stuff started, but I never heard much from him after he announced his candidacy (although the NYSlimes did six hit pieces in a row at him on their editorial pages) what the hell happened to his campaign and do you think he'd want the VP nod? He wasn't invited out to McLain's place this weekend either. Govenors of Florida, Louisiana and Romney were the only ones invited, iirc.

652 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:26:51am
653 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:27:14am

Belgian beer fans unveil urinal video game


BRUSSELS (Reuters) - Two Belgian beer fans have launched a video game named 'Place to pee', which allows players to slalom down ski slopes or kill aliens while relieving themselves at urinals.

Werner Dupont, a software developer, and Bart Geraets, an electrical engineer, got the idea while drinking Belgian trappist beers, they told Reuters Television at a local festival on Sunday.

"This thing had to be invented by Belgian people and that's what we are," they said.

The 'Place to pee' booth is designed for two users at a time and offers two games -- blowing up aliens in outer space or skiing down a virtual slope. Gamers hit their target by aiming at sensors positioned on either side of the urinal.

A specially designed paper cone allows women to play too, the inventors say.

Their 'Place to pee' logo resembles 'Manneken Pis', the little urinating boy fountain that is among Brussels' top sightseeing attractions.

654 bosforus  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:28:10am

re: #639 NJDhockeyfan

`Islam is an anti-Christ religion that intends through violence to conquer the world," Parsley has said. ``America was founded in part with the intention of seeing this false religion destroyed."

He also has said, ``I will rail against the idea that the God of Christianity and the God of Islam are the same being. I will sound the alarm about the pernicious agendas of the enemies of my country and the cross of my Christ, and I will proclaim the truth at every opportunity."

Not sure what the controversy could be. Those quotes are accurate.

655 realwest  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:28:22am

re: #614 Endangered in MASS LOL! How are ya this morning?

656 alegrias  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:28:23am

re: #637 laZardo

And it was El Rey himself who told Chavez to STFU, not Zapatero.

* * *
Right! Too bad Spain's no-nonsense King can't kick anyone around anymore.

Yes, Zapatero has negotiated without preconditions with all of Spain's formerly verboten antagonists, such as Fidel, Hugo Chavez, Evo Morales of Bolivia, FARC revolutionary change agents undermining Colombia, Syria, Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, etc.

Spain is now a laughingstock country, getting blown up by native terrorists from the inside too.

Thanks, Mr. Change Hope Zapatero.

657 Miss Trixie  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:28:45am

re: #600 realwest

Whoa! gets up from floor, mops brow - hey *smooooooch* back atcha! And good morning to you too! I be doing ok, thanks - how's about you?
Weather nice enough up there for you and Lil Miss to go out and terrorize the 'hood?! LOL!

HAHA! Hope you didn't break a toe or sumpin' :D

/I have that effect on people ...

It's pleasant enough for terrorizing the 'hood but it will be much better when the sun returns. BTW, I've a new pic of Lil Miss as an avatar. It was taken the morning before her grooming and she's suspicious as hell - judging from the look on her face. HAHA!

Suckah! :D

658 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:29:08am
659 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:30:07am
660 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:31:10am
661 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:31:45am

re: #640 alegrias

* * *
Granny, I love you but if you've got grudges against main stream Mr. Romney over his religious beliefs which as far as I can tell he doesn't push on us, we're gonna have to respectfully disagree.

MITT ROMNEY's devotion to America makes me proud to be an American.

I do not have a "grudge" against Romney for his religious beliefs. I have simply stated repeatedly that for many, many people in this country his religious beliefs are a problem. A big problem. Particularly with many Christian religious groups.

I also happen to be live quite close to Mass, all our news comes from there or New York and I still have family there. So, I am fairly aware of Mitt's reputation in Massachusetts.

The idea of choosing a running mate for McCain is to shore up HIS candidacy, not to add further burden. I like some of Romney's ideas, but he has too much baggage.

There are also too many talking heads in the MSM pushing the idea of Romney as the best candidate. Since the MSM is overwhelmingly and obviously about 90% in the tank for Obama, I wouldn't put the first grain of trust in any of their suggestions.

662 OldLineTexan  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:31:54am

re: #659 savage_nation

Dogs and little kids seems to gravitate to me like bees to honey. I cant understand it at all.

It's OK. Babies stare at me and smile. I used to think it was the glasses, but it's become obvious it's something else.

663 Kenneth  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:31:58am

re: #639 NJDhockeyfan

Pastor supporting McCain calls Islam ``evil" and ``anti-Christ"

"`Islam is an anti-Christ religion that intends through violence to conquer the world,"

What's so controversial about that? I thought he could be reading the Hadiths.

664 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:32:06am

re: #640 alegrias

* * *
Granny, I love you but if you've got grudges against main stream Mr. Romney over his religious beliefs which as far as I can tell he doesn't push on us, we're gonna have to respectfully disagree.

MITT ROMNEY's devotion to America makes me proud to be an American.

Romney is certainly a patriot, but he does have a poor record in Massachusetts. He kept state taxes down, but raised fees and because of cutbacks to local aid, towns had to raise property taxes. He did nothing to change laws that could have saved towns money, like even making it possible for towns to use the state health insurance. And the Republican party in Moonbattachusetts declined further with him as governor; even the lt. gov he left behind was incompetent and lost the election to an empty suit.

I'd prefer Guliani, but Romney as VP wouldn't stop me from voting for McCain.

665 realwest  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:32:30am

re: #626 CAD Daddy Hey there! I did read it all last night and posted my #20 right after reading it all - it's actually worth the time to read it. It's about the fraud that the groups (Reuters, AP, AFP) that supply the news to the MSM has perpetrated on all of us, including the MSM!

666 DesertSage  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:33:01am

I've seen bees gravitate to savage. They may have been killer bees.

What does that say about his character?

667 realwest  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:33:44am

re: #633 jorline Hey, come on back - if y'all want to post ELO, I'll listen!

668 OldLineTexan  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:34:21am

re: #666 DesertSage

I've seen bees gravitate to savage. They may have been killer bees.

What does that say about his character?

That he uses pollen-scented deodorant?

669 realwest  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:35:00am

re: #635 vxbush OUCH!
I learned to be real careful around Dolly's when I was about 19 or so!

670 sparrowlake  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:35:04am

Flying pig alert.

Muslim Clerics Reject Terrorism
LUCKNOW, India -Senior Muslim clerics in India rejected terrorism as anti-Islamic yesterday, despite receiving threats from an Islamist group. Khalid Rasheed, head of the oldest madrassa in Lucknow, northern India, said the Islamist group Indian Mujahideen made the threats last week in an e-mail to local media in which they also claimed responsibility for the bombs in Jaipur, western India, which killed 63 people. "We will continue to not only raise our voice against terror but also repeatedly educate the Muslim masses about the grossly un-Islamic practices adopted by terrorist bodies," Mr. Rasheed said, adding they had received support from the influential Darool-Uloom Deoband madrasa, whose strict interpretation of Islamic law is said to have inspired the Taliban.
671 CAD Daddy  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:35:44am

Hey RW. How you been?

672 Sharmuta  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:36:07am

re: #651 realwest

Yeah...sigh. I just think he'd be a smart pick. He could bring NY into play, the American public knows and loves him, strong on terror....

Just a good pick, imo.

673 realwest  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:36:27am

re: #636 Just_A_Grunt
Good morning to you - IIRC (it WAS late last night when I read the article) but he did talk about how this issue sorta crossed left/right blog lines somewhat.

674 alegrias  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:36:54am

re: #664 Kosh's Shadow

Romney is certainly a patriot, but he does have a poor record in Massachusetts. He kept state taxes down, but raised fees and because of cutbacks to local aid, towns had to raise property taxes. He did nothing to change laws that could have saved towns money, like even making it possible for towns to use the state health insurance. And the Republican party in Moonbattachusetts declined further with him as governor; even the lt. gov he left behind was incompetent and lost the election to an empty suit.

I'd prefer Guliani, but Romney as VP wouldn't stop me from voting for McCain.

* * *
Any single Republican elected in Massachusetts wasn't going to make much CHANGE & HOPE in Kennedy/Kerry country. Where were rational citizens demanding Massachusetts' liberal legislatures support conservative measures? Not enough taxpayers gave a hoot apparently.

Giuliani would be ripped apart by the media that ignores Obama's strange friends & superdelegates & funding.

675 realwest  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:37:39am

re: #639 NJDhockeyfan
Um, yeah so what's your point?!

676 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:38:16am

re: #664 Kosh's Shadow

Romney is certainly a patriot, but he does have a poor record in Massachusetts. He kept state taxes down, but raised fees and because of cutbacks to local aid, towns had to raise property taxes. He did nothing to change laws that could have saved towns money, like even making it possible for towns to use the state health insurance. And the Republican party in Moonbattachusetts declined further with him as governor; even the lt. gov he left behind was incompetent and lost the election to an empty suit.

I'd prefer Guliani, but Romney as VP wouldn't stop me from voting for McCain.

Again, the VP candidate should not stop you from voting for McCain if you intend to do so, the VP choice should encourage you to vote McCain if you are on the fence. Or a Dem that feels disenfranchised by the treatment Hillary has received.

677 BFSkinner  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:38:41am

In my view, McCain should go after Obama on his inexperience. If he selects the govenor of LA as his mate he will be shooting himself in the foot if he uses this tactic. How about selecting Colin Powell?

678 Miss Trixie  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:39:16am

re: #666 DesertSage

I've seen bees gravitate to savage. They may have been killer bees.

What does that say about his character?

He's got a big stinger? :P

679 realwest  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:40:41am

re: #645 blue_like_jazz
Good morning to you! [Link: www.imeem.com...]

680 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:41:09am

Woman strips after wolf whistle

WELLINGTON (Reuters) - Road workers in a small New Zealand town got their wish granted when a woman stripped saying she was fed up with their wolf-whistles.

The Israeli tourist was about to use an ATM in the main street of Kerikeri, in the far north of the country, when the men whistled, the New Zealand Press Association reported.

She calmly stripped off, used the cash machine, before getting dressed and walking away.

The woman told police she didn't take too kindly to the whistling from the men repairing the road.

"She said she had thought 'bugger them, I'll show them what I've got'," Police Sergeant Peter Masters told NZPA.

681 Sharmuta  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:41:23am

re: #677 BFSkinner

How about selecting Colin Powell?

Oh, hell no. Socially, the man's about as liberal as you can get.

682 Nevergiveup  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:41:26am

re: #677 BFSkinner

In my view, McCain should go after Obama on his inexperience. If he selects the govenor of LA as his mate he will be shooting himself in the foot if he uses this tactic. How about selecting Colin Powell?

Gagging over here.

683 sparrowlake  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:41:36am

re: #632 DesertSage

I want to go for a ride. In a big truck. Across the country.

Maybe I can hitch a ride with savage? (although I'd probably end up smacking him upside his head).

Oh well....Hitchen' A Ride


Go for it!

684 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:42:17am

re: #674 alegrias

* * *
Any single Republican elected in Massachusetts wasn't going to make much CHANGE & HOPE in Kennedy/Kerry country. Where were rational citizens demanding Massachusetts' liberal legislatures support conservative measures? Not enough taxpayers gave a hoot apparently.

Giuliani would be ripped apart by the media that ignores Obama's strange friends & superdelegates & funding.

He didn't even try hard. Had he proposed bills that got voted down or killed in committee, I would have a better opinion of him. But as far as I can tell, he put more effort into running for president than running Massachusetts.

That said, even if he were the Republican presidential nominee, not the VP, I'd vote for him over anyone else running.
Even if he all he did was protect the country, that's a lot today, and Obama or Clinton will cause damage with the changes they'd make.

685 Sharmuta  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:43:09am

I'm just glad to see huckabee wasn't invited. Whew!

686 vxbush  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:43:28am

re: #657 Miss Trixie

HAHA! Hope you didn't break a toe or sumpin' :D

/I have that effect on people ...

Ha! Suddenly I see the light. All my problems started when I started posting at the same time as Miss Trixie! It has to be! The correlation is certain!

/

687 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:43:43am
688 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:44:00am

re: #677 BFSkinner

In my view, McCain should go after Obama on his inexperience. If he selects the govenor of LA as his mate he will be shooting himself in the foot if he uses this tactic. How about selecting Colin Powell?

I don't think Powell wants it, and to me, he's been affected by the State Dept brain rot. But again, I'd still vote for McCain, or for Powell if he were the Republican candidate.

689 Kenneth  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:44:04am

re: #677 BFSkinner

Powell was personally fed up with politics after Rumsfeld screwed him over. At the same time, Powell was a member of the Bush administration, which McCain must distance himself from if he is to win in November. Same reason why Condi is a bad choice. Ok, there are several reasons why Condi is a bad choice.

690 alegrias  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:44:10am

re: #677 BFSkinner

In my view, McCain should go after Obama on his inexperience. If he selects the govenor of LA as his mate he will be shooting himself in the foot if he uses this tactic. How about selecting Colin Powell?

* * *
Jindal is impressive but inexperienced after less than a year on the job. Louisiana needs their new governor.

Disagree strongly about Colin Powell who missed his chance to run for President in early 2000.

Powell did not distinguish himself at State. After supporting our case or hypothesis that WMD were in Iraq, Powell got BDS, and undercut the President from State, then covered for his cowardly assistant secretary underling Richard Armitage who leaked Valerie Pflame's name & caused incalculable damage to the Administration's war effort by giving the media three years to lie and speculate.

691 realwest  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:44:47am

Well it's been grand as usual, but I gotta hop and get some chores done!
I hope you all have a GREAT DAY and that I get to see you down the road.
And for all you LGFer's who may be leaving early tomorrow morning for the holiday weekend, please have a great time, a safe time but please don't forget the real meaning of Memorial Day.

692 vxbush  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:45:21am

re: #691 realwest

Well it's been grand as usual, but I gotta hop and get some chores done!
I hope you all have a GREAT DAY and that I get to see you down the road.
And for all you LGFer's who may be leaving early tomorrow morning for the holiday weekend, please have a great time, a safe time but please don't forget the real meaning of Memorial Day.

And then, of course, once you're done at your house you should come over to mine and start working....

693 Miss Trixie  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:45:35am

re: #686 vxbush

Ha! Suddenly I see the light. All my problems started when I started posting at the same time as Miss Trixie! It has to be! The correlation is certain!

/

No doubt about it. *mwah* :D

694 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:45:56am
695 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:46:30am

re: #653 NJDhockeyfan

Belgian beer fans unveil urinal video game



Their 'Place to pee' logo resembles 'Manneken Pis', the little urinating boy fountain that is among Brussels' top sightseeing attractions.

If that doesn't sum up the capital of the EU - a child standing around taking a piss - I don't know what does.

696 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:47:17am

What the HELL has our country come to! Look at this -

Florida Teen Charged With Tainting Severely Allergic Mother's Food

DADE CITY, Fla. — A Pasco High School student has been arrested after police say she spiked her mother's food. The girl was allegedly angry that her cell phone had been taken away for texting too much, MyFOX Tampa Bay reported.

Authorities say the 16-year-old was charged yesterday with aggravated domestic battery after her mother, 39, suffered a serious allergic reaction called "anaphylactic shock."

The Pasco County Sheriff's Office says the mother told deputies she has numerous food allergies. Some are so severe that she must keep with her always an injector of epinephrine, or adrenaline, to immediately treat the shock.

[Editorial note - this means that the woman could have easily died almost immediately - and her teen surely knew it.]

According to a police report obtained by the St. Petersburg Times, the suspect's 11-year-old sister said she remembers the teen using the salt, but she said her older sister threatened to "beat her up until she was dead" if she said anything.

Authorities say the teen admitted spiking her mother's food with seasoning salt.

697 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:47:29am
698 Sharmuta  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:48:01am

re: #674 alegrias

Giuliani Republicans would will be ripped apart by the media that ignores Obama's strange friends & superdelegates & funding.

The sooner we accept the fact the msm doesn't like us, the sooner we can find a more effective strategy to get the truth out there. Picking a candidate based on msm like-ability factors is a bad idea- a losing strategy from the start.

699 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:48:05am

re: #685 Sharmuta

I'm just glad to see huckabee wasn't invited. Whew!

Too busy prepping the squirrels for his Memorial Day BBQ!

700 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:48:22am

The people Obama wants to negotiate with:
Iranian Conference to Focus on 'Israel's End'

701 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:48:39am
702 Globular Cluster  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:48:51am

Re: VP selection for McCain

I still think Condi Rice would make the best VP. As National Security Advisor she was conservative (less so as Sec State, but it's the role that conservatives should be disappointed by, not her). She is a woman, black, and relatively young. Also very eloquent.

If McCain won't select Condi, then Romney is the next best choice. Lieberman is out of the question.

703 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:49:31am

re: #689 Kenneth

Powell was personally fed up with politics after Rumsfeld screwed him over. At the same time, Powell was a member of the Bush administration, which McCain must distance himself from if he is to win in November. Same reason why Condi is a bad choice. Ok, there are several reasons why Condi is a bad choice.

I have to tell you, the only person that would convince me to sit out the election would be the presence of Condi Rice anywhere near the Republican ticket. She is every bit as dangerous as Barack Hussein Obama - and has been proving that for quite some while.

704 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:49:44am
705 Globular Cluster  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:49:48am

re: #703 galloping granny

I have to tell you, the only person that would convince me to sit out the election would be the presence of Condi Rice anywhere near the Republican ticket. She is every bit as dangerous as Barack Hussein Obama - and has been proving that for quite some while.

I completely disagree.

706 Kenneth  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:50:25am

McCain Takes Another Whack at Obama-A'jad Meeting

"After Senator Obama's own advisors and supporters backtracked from his stated desire to hold summit meetings with the leaders of the world's worst regimes, Senator Obama himself has begun to reinterpret his stand. He now claims that some 'fear' to 'negotiate' with the likes of Iranian President Ahmadinejad, who has called Israel a 'stinking corpse' or Ayatollah Khamenei, who called Israel a 'cancerous tumor.' I have news for Senator Obama: I have met some very bad people before in my life. It is not fear that drives my opposition to unconditional meetings with Ahmadinejad, Khamenei, Kim Jong Il, and Raul Castro; rather it is my clear understanding that such a course will fail to eliminate the threat posed by these rogue regimes. I don't fear to negotiate. Instead I have the knowledge and experience to understand the dangerous consequences of a naive approach to Presidential summits based entirely on emotion."

McCain has fine tuned the attack a bit by focusing on what it is Obama hopes to achieve by holding direct and unconditional talks with Ahmadinejad, among other tyrants...

At some point, Obama will be forced to explain what his goals are. As Bolton says, "Negotiation is not a policy. It is a technique." And surely Obama has goals, but one suspects they are so unrealistic--diplomatic recognition of Israel, responsible participation in Iraq, a halt to nuclear weapons development--that Obama will, in fact, look naive and reckless.

707 Endangered in MASS  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:50:26am

re: #661 galloping granny

"Since the MSM is overwhelmingly and obviously about 90% in the tank for Obama, I wouldn't put the first grain of trust in any of their suggestions."

You are a smart woman.

708 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:50:49am
709 vxbush  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:50:49am

re: #696 galloping granny

What the HELL has our country come to! Look at this -

Florida Teen Charged With Tainting Severely Allergic Mother's Food

The value of life is mostly gone in kids. They simply don't seem to understand. I could name a bunch of reasons why, but there are folks on the list who would disagree with me on why, so I'll refrain. But kids are much more self-centered now than in the past. That doesn't help.

710 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:50:52am

re: #698 Sharmuta

The sooner we accept the fact the msm doesn't like us, the sooner we can find a more effective strategy to get the truth out there. Picking a candidate based on msm like-ability factors is a bad idea- a losing strategy from the start.

Putting up a candidate that we know the MSM is going to tear to shreds instead of one they will just try to tear to shreds would be foolish. I like Rudi quite some bit and in the best of all worlds would love to see him on the ticket - or John Bolton - but that isn't going to fly.

711 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:51:00am
712 Globular Cluster  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:51:50am

re: #708 savage_nation

Sorry, gotta ding you down for that. Condi Rice is an anti-semitic beyotch!

C'mon.

713 Endangered in MASS  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:51:55am

re: #655 realwest


Realwest,

I am well. Thank you. You?

Regards,
EiM

714 Endangered in MASS  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:52:49am

Last one to the new thread is a rotten egg.

715 sparrowlake  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:52:55am

re: #702 Globular Cluster

Re: VP selection for McCain

I still think Condi Rice would make the best VP.

Cundie? - Don't make me laugh!

716 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:53:14am
717 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:53:32am

re: #702 Globular Cluster

Re: VP selection for McCain

I still think Condi Rice would make the best VP. As National Security Advisor she was conservative (less so as Sec State, but it's the role that conservatives should be disappointed by, not her). She is a woman, black, and relatively young. Also very eloquent.

If McCain won't select Condi, then Romney is the next best choice. Lieberman is out of the question.

Not after Condi's being taken over by the State Dept. pods. I don't want her making policy on dealing with Israel.

718 alegrias  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:53:41am

re: #698 Sharmuta

The sooner we accept the fact the msm doesn't like us, the sooner we can find a more effective strategy to get the truth out there. Picking a candidate based on msm like-ability factors is a bad idea- a losing strategy from the start.

* * *
I feel you Giuliani pain--Rudy was a media darling but it got him nowhere during the primaries. A political genius he may be, but it didn't get him very far politically, so it's a good thing he & McCain are good friends. Giuliani will find work with McCain, if only to campaign for him in the general election.

719 alegrias  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:54:21am

re: #704 taxfreekiller

McLame needs to make Mark Levine his press sectary.

* * *
Levin would never accept! You do know that!

720 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:54:56am
721 galloping granny  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:55:05am

re: #709 vxbush

The value of life is mostly gone in kids. They simply don't seem to understand. I could name a bunch of reasons why, but there are folks on the list who would disagree with me on why, so I'll refrain. But kids are much more self-centered now than in the past. That doesn't help.

Not just self-centered. They seem to overwhelming have no self control at all and absolutely no sense of right and wrong. Get what you want at ANY cost - including murdering your own parents.

722 JimK  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:55:08am

I wish I had time to read the entire article. Every line of it spoke the truth in pointing out the falsehoods we receive from biased media outlets. Normal people would feel shame for being such liars. The chutzpah is nothing short of amazing.

723 Widow'smight  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:55:18am

re: #694 savage_nation

Hope you're not the kind of bee that loses it's stinger after plunging it into something/one.

724 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:55:20am

re: #706 Kenneth

McCain Takes Another Whack at Obama-A'jad MeetingAt some point, Obama will be forced to explain what his goals are. As Bolton says, "Negotiation is not a policy. It is a technique." And surely Obama has goals, but one suspects they are so unrealistic--diplomatic recognition of Israel, responsible participation in Iraq, a halt to nuclear weapons development--that Obama will, in fact, look naive and reckless.

I still think Obama wants Israel destroyed.

725 bosforus  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:55:26am

re: #697 taxfreekiller

I agree 100% and I agree that it would work, but that means we'd be asking McCain to take the initiative in what would be labeled as an 'attack'. Unfortunately, that's something I don't see McCain initiating.

726 alegrias  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:56:00am

re: #699 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Too busy prepping the squirrels for his Memorial Day BBQ!

* * *
We still need the votes & support of squirrel hunters & Chuck Norris fans to fight radical ideologists!

727 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:57:01am

re: #726 alegrias

* * *
We still need the votes & support of squirrel hunters & Chuck Norris fans to fight radical ideologists!

Chuck Norris for VP!

728 Widow'smight  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:57:09am

re: #721 galloping granny

Not my princesses, they can't wait to serve this King.

729 alegrias  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:57:13am

re: #702 Globular Cluster

Re: VP selection for McCain

I still think Condi Rice would make the best VP. As National Security Advisor she was conservative (less so as Sec State, but it's the role that conservatives should be disappointed by, not her). She is a woman, black, and relatively young. Also very eloquent.

If McCain won't select Condi, then Romney is the next best choice. Lieberman is out of the question.

* * *
Did you miss Dr. Rice has stated she wants to lead the National Football League?

730 Kenneth  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:57:22am

re: #702 Globular Cluster

Reasons why Condi is a bad choice:

1. Condi is not a politician and brings no geographic constiuency with her.
2. Condi is a realist school diplomat and has consistently under-whelmed fist as NSA and as Secretary of State.
3. African Americans who are voting for Obama are not going to switch to Condi just because she is black.
4. White Americans who are voting for Obama aren't going to switch either.
5. Condi's record on Israel alienates conservative support for McCain.
6. Condi's personal life is a little too bit dubious to be acceptable to religious conservatives.
7. More than anybody else, Condi is a hard core "Bushy". McCain has to respectfully distance himself from Bush if he is to win in November.
731 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:57:57am
732 OldLineTexan  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:58:23am

re: #726 alegrias

* * *
We still need the votes & support of squirrel hunters & Chuck Norris fans to fight radical ideologists!

Nothing wrong with a little "limb chicken", but a BBQ'd squirrel is likely to be tough. Now I hear that BBQ'd raccoon is very tasty, but I have never had a sample.

733 alegrias  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:58:38am

re: #702 Globular Cluster

Re: VP selection for McCain

I still think Condi Rice would make the best VP. As National Security Advisor she was conservative (less so as Sec State, but it's the role that conservatives should be disappointed by, not her). She is a woman, black, and relatively young. Also very eloquent.

If McCain won't select Condi, then Romney is the next best choice. Lieberman is out of the question.

* * *
Besides, Condi Rice is actively undermining our ally Israel, why would McCain want more losing strategerists on board?

734 Kenneth  Thu, May 22, 2008 7:58:39am

re: #724 Kosh's Shadow

I agree.

735 Widow'smight  Thu, May 22, 2008 8:00:18am

re: #731 savage_nation

Whew, thank goodness for that. Even the thought of that happening to me shivers me timbers.

736 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 8:00:29am
737 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 22, 2008 8:00:57am
738 Widow'smight  Thu, May 22, 2008 8:01:09am

re: #732 OldLineTexan


Limb Chicken Pot Pie is much better I've heard.

739 jorline  Thu, May 22, 2008 8:01:30am

re: #667 realwest

Hey, come on back - if y'all want to post ELO, I'll listen!


Just for you real...this is one of my favorites, Mr Blue Sky

740 alegrias  Thu, May 22, 2008 8:02:44am

re: #736 savage_nation

Well, its time to bust ass across 305 miles of NE and most of WY.

I'll talk to you all later, take care peeps...

* * *
Lucky you, what beautiful country that must be! Be safe.

741 Widow'smight  Thu, May 22, 2008 8:02:54am

re: #736 savage_nation


Drive safely Grasshopper.

742 Kenneth  Thu, May 22, 2008 8:03:33am

I don't think Condi hates Israel or loves the Palis. But I do see that she is a "realist school" diplomat who believes she can solve the "Palestinian problem" by appealing to the best & nicest interests of the parties involved. This is seriously and dangerously deluded.

BTW, in the fall of 2006 when Bush was contemplating a change in strategy in Iraq to what would be called the Surge, Condi advised against it and recommended pulling back US troops to protected bases and to "let the insurgency burn itself out". The idiocy of that advice is staggering.

743 Endangered in MASS  Thu, May 22, 2008 8:05:46am

re: #691 realwest

For the fallen.

744 Widow'smight  Thu, May 22, 2008 8:11:16am

re: #742 Kenneth

The whole Pali-Israeli "Peace Process" seems to be a necessary evil, destined to go nowhere. At some point, Israelis need to value their own people more than the 7th century barbarians they have to babysit.

They're going to be hated anyway, might as well be feared again. US seems pressured into supporting this because of our Politicians not allowing us to get our own oil. If we produced most of our oil, we'd have more leverage in this matter.

745 mean Gene  Thu, May 22, 2008 9:02:05am

Coincidentally I was just researching for fauxtographs from the 2006 Lebanon war the other day.
So many no longer exist.
Only a few bloggers linked to them and have them still online.
What great timing on Prof. Cooper's part.
And thanks, Charles, for linking to it.
Green heart.

746 samsgran1948  Thu, May 22, 2008 9:28:00am

Whew! I read the whole thing, and I am exhausted!

That is one hell of an essay, and one hell of an indictment of the politicized MSM.

Will the MSM give a rat's patooie? No. But at least the essay is out there, and maybe some not-quite-closed minds will open a little bit more.

Zombie: Take a bow. In fact, take several bows.

747 Abu Al-Poopypants  Thu, May 22, 2008 9:32:49am

Did anyone else get reminded of this when they saw the infamous fauxtograph of Beirut?

Anyone?

Bueller?

748 tonysdca  Thu, May 22, 2008 4:16:57pm

What a great summary. This is a link I'll email to others. Kudos to Cooper and the bloggers.


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