Where is the pig Charles? This one deserves the Flying Pig!

If the ap can't even ignore it, you know it's bad.

More fuel for Hillary to take to the Superdelegates. Recreate '68 Denver '08!

The new thinking, however, appears not to have been thought all the way through.

LOL!

AND - Today's NY Times ran an article on how JFK got his clock cleaned by Khruschev at the 1961 Paris Summit. Maybe someone out in MSM land GETS IT.

-S-

OK
Who has been hitting the MSM with the clue stick ?
Charles ?

It's nothing more than pre-wedding jitters on the part of the AP. /

When I hear Bobby Jindal speak, he sounds so real and down to earth. Obama on the other hand sounds so overly polished, phony and full of major hot air. He gives me the creeps! Jindal on the other hand would be a shoe in for McCain! I've listened to Bobby on local radio over the years before he was gov - he always checked in to let us know what he was doing and how things were going. He is a very dedicated and hard working, sincere man who I would feel a lot of comfort if he takes up the offer! He loves Louisiana and he loves the US.

How long until the issue a correction? Or maybe it'll go down the memory hole, Kos-style.

ALSO - "The Old Spin (vs.) The New Spin." Spin is a cycle on a Washing Machine, AP. How many "Cycles" until Obama comes out clean?

-S-

re: #5 Dr. Shalit

AND - Today's NY Times ran an article on how JFK got his clock cleaned by Khruschev at the 1961 Paris Summit. Maybe someone out in MSM land GETS IT.

-S-

Now THAT is worth an update and TWO Flying Pigs!

When Obama said in one of his speeches that HE would heal America's broken soul, is when I really had enough of his BS. That is not the presidents job! That's a faith healers job. Protecting the Constitution is the presidents job. I don't want Obama mesing with my American soul!

I guess he was listening to Hugh Hewitt and John Bolton dissect the Obmessiah on the radio other day.

The ObamaMessiah is headed off to a synagogue in Florida -- to woo the wary...

re: #8 Teacake!

When I hear Bobby Jindal speak, he sounds so real and down to earth. Obama on the other hand sounds so overly polished, phony and full of major hot air. He gives me the creeps! Jindal on the other hand would be a shoe in for McCain! I've listened to Bobby on local radio over the years before he was gov - he always checked in to let us know what he was doing and how things were going. He is a very dedicated and hard working, sincere man who I would feel a lot of comfort if he takes up the offer! He loves Louisiana and he loves the US.

You know, there was a youngish black congressman from Tennessee that impressed me that way a few years back. Don't know if he is a D or an R though.

re: #5 Dr. Shalit,

One of the things that led to the Cuban Missile Crisis. That is a great pattern to emulate, isn't it?

Maybe this time we could play Global Thermonuclear War for real. Unlike Khrushchev, the Iranians don't care that they'd come out on the short end of the stick

re: #11 galloping granny

Now THAT is worth an update and TWO Flying Pigs!

A swarm of Flying Pigs !

re: #12 Teacake!

When Obama said in one of his speeches that HE would heal America's broken soul, is when I really had enough of his BS. That is not the presidents job! That's a faith healers job. Protecting the Constitution is the presidents job. I don't want Obama mesing with my American soul!

And he had best first take care of healing his own broken soul.

They could've made that article a lot simpler by simply putting quote after quote of Obama's contradicting foreign policy statements alongside the dates that he said them.

re: #15 galloping granny

You know, there was a youngish black congressman from Tennessee that impressed me that way a few years back. Don't know if he is a D or an R though.

Harold Ford? He's a Democrat.

He's much more authentic than Glowbama.

Clinton called him naive. She said she would not risk the prestige of the presidency by negotiating directly with countries such as Iran until they had agreed to change their ways.

Obama called that a case of old Washington thinking.

Well, in this case, I happen to like "old Washington thinking" and I'm guessing I'm not alone, as millions of American's agree. Even Hillary- man... that's bad.

re: #7 lawhawk

It's nothing more than pre-wedding jitters on the part of the AP. /

I had those on my wedding day. But my brother in law to be was late ( should have known taken that as a hint ) so I started drinking. I was pretty happy by the time the Rabbi said he had to leave soon because he had a funeral to go to. I told him the stiff wasn't going anywhere and my brother in law soon arrived. I don't remember much after that but I guess i went thru with it, I am still married 25 years later.

Wow, they finally took note? Amazing how long the learning curve is for the AP.

Here's a very long, but very good article about Obama's connections:

Barack Obama - Operation Board Games For Slumlords

Curtain Time for Barack Obama - Part II

Curtain Time for Barack Obama - Part III

Curtain Time for Barack Obama - Part IV

Curtain Time for Barack Obama - Part V

Final Chapter - Curtain Time for Barack Obama

re: #17 LeftJustAintRight

A swarm of Flying Pigs !

Swarm

obviously, the ap are a bunch of racists/

Is the MSM turning on B. Hussein?
Have the discovered that McCain will eat BHO's waffle?
That the only, slim chance they have in Nov. take the White House is the Broom Jockey?

I'll have have to say is...
BAWHAHAHAHAHAHA!

The other possibility is that there are still pro-Hillary people at the AP, and they're getting in their last licks.

It seems the Obama campaigns strategy is to wake every morning read the headlines and go with the liberal flow to keep his followers on the hook. Is that the sound of flip flops coming down the hall?

re: #20 JammieWearingFool

Harold Ford? He's a Democrat.

He's much more authentic than Glowbama.

That is the one. Too bad he's a Democrat.

re: #12 Teacake!

When Obama said in one of his speeches that HE would heal America's broken soul, is when I really had enough of his BS. That is not the presidents job! That's a faith healers job. Protecting the Constitution is the presidents job. I don't want Obama mesing with my American soul!

To a democrat, everything is the government's job.

re: #17 LeftJustAintRight,

A flock of pigs! Flocking pigs!

re: #28 Scorch

It seems the Obama campaigns strategy is to wake every morning read the headlines and go with the liberal flow to keep his followers on the hook. Is that the sound of flip flops coming down the hall?

Yes - the wooden clog kind of flip flops made by Dr. Scholl's that clack & echo as you walk.

re: #3 Iron Fist

More fuel for Hillary to take to the Superdelegates. Recreate '68 Denver '08!

That sword cuts both ways, if Hillary were to get the nomination at the convention she would be harder to beat than Obama. If she were to take the VP spot (unlikely IMHO) that would be bad for us. If her intention is to destroy Obama in the general election, more power to her. If the Dem. Convention becomes a bloodbath, thats best of all!

re: #26 jcm

Is the MSM turning on B. Hussein?
Have the discovered that McCain will eat BHO's waffle?
That the only, slim chance they have in Nov. take the White House is the Broom Jockey?

I'll have have to say is...
BAWHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I think Hillary has put them in their proper place (her pocket)

re: #27 lawhawk

The other possibility is that there are still pro-Hillary people at the AP, and they're getting in their last licks.

That is actually more likely.

re: #25 phoenixgirl

obviously, the ap are a bunch of racists/

You beat me to it... You're quick Oh Girl From Phoenix.

How'd that slip past the editors?

Calvin is currently out back A.P. headquarters being prepped for the beheading.

"Behead those who insult the Obamessiah!"

/

re: #12 Teacake!

When Obama said in one of his speeches that HE would heal America's broken soul, is when I really had enough of his BS. That is not the presidents job! That's a faith healers job. Protecting the Constitution is the presidents job. I don't want Obama mesing with my American soul!

This is another of the overtly religious overtones to Barack Hussein Obama's campaign that makes me VERY uneasy.

yeah, someone's getting cold feet
is this the work of hillary?

re: #27 lawhawk

The other possibility is that there are still pro-Hillary people at the AP, and they're getting in their last licks.

That's quite possible. There are a lot of Democrats out there who don't seem to like Obama very much. I posted a link to such a site this morning:

Democrats Against Obama

repost: but worth it.

Former UN Ambassador John Bolton plumbing the depths of Obama's ignorance on foreign policy

here's the some of the transcript:
JB: I think the, we haven’t plumbed the depths of that ignorance yet, but I wouldn’t count on the mainstream media to do it during the course of the campaign. Look, he has led a very cosseted, privileged existence in his life, that this is not somebody born in poverty who was risen by his bootstraps. He’s had, basically, a fairly comfortable middle class life. He’s gone to Ivy League universities, he’s lived in a liberal bubble in Chicago. And you know, you don’t have to acquire a lot of knowledge to be acceptable in those circles, and I think what we’re seeing is, as he emerges from that bubble, we’re seeing his view of reality. And I think it’s right there for Senator McCain to go after.

re: #34 LeftJustAintRight

I think Hillary has put them in their proper place (her pocket)

FBI files on the media players.......

re: #27 lawhawk

The other possibility is that there are still pro-Hillary people at the AP, and they're getting in their last licks.

There is a third possibility: that the Dems have gotten the message that they had better play it fair and square or they are going to be left with a party in tatters after most of the women and all of the Hillary supporters leave. Women are dead serious about the way Hillary has been thrown under the bus and they are not going to sit down in the corner and quietly shut up.

Democrats Prayer

Our non-gender-specific parent,
who are't Obama,
Hallowed be thine campain ads.
Forgive us our sins (that come from the founding fathers being white male slave owners),
as we forgive or foes by sending them tax money.
Give us this day or gluten-free organic bread,
unless we are on Atkins.
They will be done,
here as it is in Hyannis.

Replace A-men with O-bama

re: #41 NoSubmission

And I think it’s right there for Senator McCain to go after.

I think McCain will gut him like a fish in a foreign policy debate.

re: #40 Honorary Yooper

That's quite possible. There are a lot of Democrats out there who don't seem to like Obama very much. I posted a link to such a site this morning:

Democrats Against Obama

Interesting. I wonder if they read LGF.

re: #10 Dr. Shalit

ALSO - "The Old Spin (vs.) The New Spin." Spin is a cycle on a Washing Machine, AP. How many "Cycles" until Obama comes out clean?

-S-

He really doesn't have the knack for Clintonian obfuscation. Good to see that at least a few people in the MSM aren't going to play along.

re: #40 Honorary Yooper

That's quite possible. There are a lot of Democrats out there who don't seem to like Obama very much. I posted a link to such a site this morning:

Democrats Against Obama

Waitaminute.

They tried to make a fool of Bill Clinton.

Something about "tried" in that sentence doesn't parse, and I am pretty sure Bill has already made a fool of himself.

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Appeasing is Over in La Italia

Berlusconi Outlaws Undocumented Illegal Immigrants

Beginning in July, clandestine illegals caught will get 4 years' jail.
More crimes are committed by illegals in Italy than by the mafia!

(In Spanish @ La Razon)
[Link: www.larazon.es...]

re: #21 Sharmuta

you missed the best line! immediately following the bit you quoted:

The new thinking, however, appears not to have been thought all the way through.

love it! :)

re: #44 galloping granny

There is a third possibility: that the Dems have gotten the message that they had better play it fair and square or they are going to be left with a party in tatters after most of the women and all of the Hillary supporters leave. Women are dead serious about the way Hillary has been thrown under the bus and they are not going to sit down in the corner and quietly shut up.

Thats when POTUS Obama starts Sharia Conversion Jan 21st

Ears is spinning so fast, if we could only hook a generator up to him, we could power all of New York and parts of New Jersey!

re: #11 galloping granny

Now THAT is worth an update and TWO Flying Pigs!

"gg" -

Article is in OP-ED, written by Thrall & Wilkins. "One Pig, Two Pigs...a whole
BAY of PIGS?

-S-

For your famous quotes file:

"Negotiation is not a policy. It is a technique. Saying that one favors negotiation with, say, Iran, has no more intellectual content than saying one favors using a spoon. For what? Under what circumstances? With what objectives? On these specifics, Mr. Obama has been consistently sketchy.
--John Bolton

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

re: #17 LeftJustAintRight

A swarm of Flying Pigs !

Do flying pigs travel in flocks? I don't think I'd want to be standing under them when they fly overhead.

re: #52 LeftJustAintRight

Thats when POTUS Obama starts Sharia Conversion Jan 21st

Never! Be careful what you say. Words come back to haunt you. Not even in jest should you whisper that!

re: #57 galloping granny

Never! Be careful what you say. Words come back to haunt you. Not even in jest should you whisper that!

* * *
Say it loud & say it proud. More Americans need to know about red diaper baby's agenda for CHANGE we'd regret forever.

Granny, you know Mitt Romney wouldn't go sharia ever.

Berlusconi is back in Italy? I must have been asleep... Wasn't he deposed in favor of a Socialist?

re: #50 alegrias

OT
Appeasing is Over in La Italia

Berlusconi Outlaws Undocumented Illegal Immigrants

Beginning in July, clandestine illegals caught will get 4 years' jail.
More crimes are committed by illegals in Italy than by the mafia!

(In Spanish @ La Razon)
[Link: www.larazon.es...]

re: #59 Pyrocles

The government in Italy (I use the term loosely) changes very, very often.

re: #14 J.S.

There ain't enough woo in the world, friend.

re: #52 LeftJustAintRight

Thats when POTUS Obama starts Sharia Conversion Jan 21st

Too many knees will never bend. Most of those knees are attached to people whose hands hold guns.

Granny, Jindal is republican. A very down to earth fellow. Religious, but not fanatic

re: #50 alegrias

OT
Appeasing is Over in La Italia

Berlusconi Outlaws Undocumented Illegal Immigrants

Beginning in July, clandestine illegals caught will get 4 years' jail.
More crimes are committed by illegals in Italy than by the mafia!

(In Spanish @ La Razon)
[Link: www.larazon.es...]

Hurray for Berlusconi! I've always thought that illegal anything is by definition outlawed, but in today's world, perhaps even this needs to be spelled out.

Maybe the AP is finally realizing that Hope and Change isn't going to keep the bullies out of the neighborhood, a chicken in every pot, and a car in every garage.

Then again, maybe not.

I recall reading a spin-off link about how the MSM was finally taking the ObamaMessiah to task -- that was months ago...and I think the critical, analytical articles are few and far between (they are flukes) -- the critical pieces drowned out in a vast sea of non-stop praise and worshipful awe.

re: #41 NoSubmission

Most excellent nugget. Well worth posting again and again...

For those with a Yahoo account be sure to give that article a 5-star rating.

re: #58 alegrias

* * *
Say it loud & say it proud. More Americans need to know about red diaper baby's agenda for CHANGE we'd regret forever.

Granny, you know Mitt Romney wouldn't go sharia ever.

Note the part that I crossed out. You are right about Obama's agenda.

I just read that whole article, and it reads like a pure op-ed, even more so than a typical AP piece.

re: #53 amphibian

But, how would that help the children?

re: #63 Teacake!

Granny, Jindal is republican. A very down to earth fellow. Religious, but not fanatic

Yes I know about Bobby Jindal. I'm not familiar with the other governor the MSM claims is being "interviewed." Though I did hear that there are 10 invitees to McCain's BBQ, not just three.

Here's the deal. Obama is a lightweight socialist-minded inexperienced nancyboy.

There's no "there" there when it comes to Obama's own knowledge and expertise. All he has are vague principles, which he clothes in (surprise) vague language. He relies totally on his advisors, most of whom are from Brookings.

Ordinarily, this would be marginally acceptable: nobody can be expert in everything. The problem with Obama though is that he is so inexpert, so ignorant, and yet so overreaching in his feelings and rhetoric, that we have no way of knowing how he will evaluate the advice he's given. What does he have to test that advice against? His knowledge? No. His experience? *snort* No.

To some, he's appealing because he's "open" to doing things in a new way, but this is tantamount to admitting he doesn't know what the hell he's doing. And he doesn't. All he knows is that people seem to like him, want to back him (and get plum positions), and he's running for president dammit! He has these feelings that he's somehow important, and that's supposed to be enough for us.

All Obama is, is a vector for socialist/statist aspirations and desires to see America reduced in power and influence. That's it.

re: #59 Pyrocles

Berlusconi is back with a 30-seat majority. In a big way.

re: #63 Teacake!

Granny, Jindal is republican. A very down to earth fellow. Religious, but not fanatic

And, he has a Che-style t-shirt. In Commie Red. Drive your moonbat AND conservative friends nucking futs!

re: #70 Tasty Beverage

I just read that whole article, and it reads like a pure op-ed, even more so than a typical AP piece.

That bothered me.

OT

Algore is throwing things around his office right now.

Go Green -- Buy a Used Car. It's Better Than a Hybrid

Get behind the wheel of a 1994 Geo Metro XFi, which matches the Prius' 46 mpg, and the Prius would never close the carbon gap, Power writes.

In other Climate News causing Algore to kick his cat.

Global Warming Petition

We urge the United States government to reject the global warming agreement that was written in Kyoto, Japan in December, 1997, and any other similar proposals. The proposed limits on greenhouse gases would harm the environment, hinder the advance of science and technology, and damage the health and welfare of mankind.

This petition has been signed by over 31,000 American scientists.

re: #75 OldLineTexan

And, he has a Che-style t-shirt. In Commie Red. Drive your moonbat AND conservative friends nucking futs!

I like the Boy Scout emblem on the beret.

re: #75 OldLineTexan

And, he has a Che-style t-shirt. In Commie Red. Drive your moonbat AND conservative friends nucking futs!

I like the fleur-dis-les on the beret. :-)

re: #78 galloping granny

I like the Boy Scout emblem on the beret.

It's also a symbol of that state of Louisiana.

re: #2 Sharmuta

Check out the Obama photo AP posted an hour ago.

Note the halo effect.

re: #33 maddogg,

Yeah, the Dems have really screwed the pooch this election cycle. It should have been theirs in a walk, but no, they had to make it interesting :-) There's really no way that Hillary can take the nomination that will be seen as legitimate by the followers of the Obamessiah. Any manuver with the superdelegates or Florida and Michigan's votes will be seen as stealing the election from Obama.

But the Obamessiah is already seen as having stepped on Hillary's natural right to be the nominee. After all, this was supposed to be a coronation, not a contest. Worse, the Obamessiah will max out in the Bluest of the Blue areas, but he won't win a single State that W won in '04. Obama will likely lose in the general election. Worse, by telling Florida and Michigan to piss up a rope in the primaries, they are giving McCain a leg up in the general. McCain won't win in a landslide, but he will get the magic 270 Electoral votes no matter how many L³iberals Obama gets in Oregon.

And the superdelegates know all this. Sucks to be a them. Hillary can take it to the Convention, and it looks like she intends to take it to the Convention. It's going to be exciting :-)

I think the Obama has been very clear about his foreign policy. It's all about hope and change. He hopes the iranian leadership will change their mind on nuclear weapons once he gets into office.

I hope the next thing the AP notice is Obama's authoritarian stance towards anything he doesn't like being questioned...
It matters not that he is running for President and had he ever paid attention before he would know how everything is game
When something comes up the Obamessiah doesn't like...its simply OFF LIMITS MOVE ALONG
The 2008 Democratic party for you

Liberal facists

re: #73 godfrey

He has these FEEEEEEEELINGS that he's somehow important, and that's supposed to be enough for us.

re: #75 OldLineTexan

That's bizarre. Jindal is good people, but he'll be an even better national figure if he makes some serious progress in Louisiana first. I hope he doesn't take the VP job, and I think he won't, if it's offered. Louisiana needs him, and his national currency will be a lot stronger if he serves them well.

"I snuck a peek backstage at an Obama rally and...I swear...saw Obama...walking on water...he was exuding a radiant light...then he gently placed his hand over a shriveled woman disfigured by disease, and her health & youth were instantly restored..."

--Brian Williams, to eagerly nodding MSM colleagues

Obama's new spiritual mentor

re: #85 WriterMom

Don't you get that sense, WM? It would be of touching to see him believe in himself more than is warranted, but now... his level of belief is so out of wack with what's waranted, that you just want to avert your eyes.

Whoa. Typos and garbled syntax. Blood sugar getting low! Lunch, stat!

re: #82 Iron Fist

The thin air in Denver will make it easier to throw chairs,

said a previous poster on this site.

Susan Rice, Obama's foreign policy advisor.

"There is more than one war happening simultaneously in Iraq. Yes, we have an insurgency, we have Al Qaeda and there is a counterinsurgency challenge; but there is also separately and simultaneously a raging civil war."

"Any...uh...criticism of me...uh...my wife...the Daily Kos...and...uh...Chris Matthews... is...I find...uh...un-American...downright mean...and...uh...against hope...change...and...uh...the hope for change..."

re: #91 Ojoe

The thin air in Denver will make it easier to throw chairs,

said a previous poster on this site.

With any luck everyone will hyperventilate.

re: #67 WriterMom

Most excellent nugget. Well worth posting again and again...

Thanks! It is so worth listening too. Just dynamite.

re: #82 Iron Fist

,
SNIP

And the superdelegates know all this. Sucks to be a them. Hillary can take it to the Convention, and it looks like she intends to take it to the Convention. It's going to be exciting :-)

Granny's Popcorn Recipes -

Real Popcorn in the Microwave -

Put two small handfuls (a scant 1/4 cup) of popping corn into a brown paper lunch bag. Fold the top over firmly 1/2 inch, then fold down twice more. Microwave on high as usual, 4-5 minutes. No oil required, nothing more need be done to the bag. Yes, big popcorn has been ripping you off for years!

Southwest - add a teaspoon or two of grated lime rind to the butter as it is melting. Toss with New Mexico powdered chile and salt to taste.

Vermont - Add Maple Pepper instead of salt. Or grate in a little bit of maple sugar & add ground black pepper.

Cheese - Sprinkle with powdered cheddar from the dairy aisle or steal the cheese package from a box of mac & cheese.

Italian - Add a handful or two of freshly grated Parmesan or Romano and a splash of garlic powder.

I think that the AP has misspelled 'reacharound'.

Oh, please. You know darned well that 'reacharound' is a better description than 'outreach'.

See Y'all later.

re: #95 NoSubmission
PIMF
/to

re: #73 godfrey

Here's the deal. Obama is a lightweight socialist-minded inexperienced nancyboy.
All Obama is, is a vector for socialist/statist aspirations and desires to see America reduced in power and influence. That's it.

And that is good reason he shouldn't even be dog catcher, never mind president or senator.

re: #84 Sizzlack

I hope the next thing the AP notice is Obama's authoritarian stance towards anything he doesn't like being questioned...
It matters not that he is running for President and had he ever paid attention before he would know how everything is game
When something comes up the Obamessiah doesn't like...its simply OFF LIMITS MOVE ALONG
The 2008 Democratic party for you

Liberal facists

He certainly does not seem to understand that he is on a year+ long job interview for the single most powerful position in the world. Every word out of his mouth, every thought in his head, everything he has ever done or ever written, anyone he has ever associated with and all of their thoughts/words/deeds are ALL fair game, the more so because he has absolutely NO track record at anything (which seems almost deliberate.)

I've been trying to catch up - I gather everyone's been up or at work longer than I have.

AP actually noticed there's a few problems with Obama? Goodness, they must really have hurt themselves when they tripped over that!

re: #65 gman

Maybe the AP is finally realizing that Hope and Change isn't going to keep the bullies out of the neighborhood, a chicken in every pot, and a car in every garage.

Then again, maybe not.

* * *
Bullies, what bullies? With no preconditions,

It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood,
Please oh please
won't you be my neighbor?

re: #98 NoSubmission

I got your email, btw, and thanks. I'll listen in a bit.

My daughter has an Irish dance competition in Denver right around the time of the convention. I think we'll be skipping that one this year. Something tells me that the fireworks in July won't just happen on the 4th.

re: #104 Dianna

I got your email, btw, and thanks. I'll listen in a bit.

I don't think the link I sent you works. Please go with the one I posted above thread. Sorry! :(

Pre-flight the pig. Don't forget to remove the sock from the pitot tube.

re: #106 NoSubmission

It's OK.

Now I shall fall silent and begin working. I want to dump everything on my boss' desk before he leaves this evening.

It's also a symbol of the city of Louisville, KY.

Something about the French kings coming back or something.

re: #41 NoSubmission

repost: but worth it.

Former UN Ambassador John Bolton plumbing the depths of Obama's ignorance on foreign policy

here's the some of the transcript:
JB: I think the, we haven’t plumbed the depths of that ignorance yet, but I wouldn’t count on the mainstream media to do it during the course of the campaign. Look, he has led a very cosseted, privileged existence in his life, that this is not somebody born in poverty who was risen by his bootstraps. He’s had, basically, a fairly comfortable middle class life. He’s gone to Ivy League universities, he’s lived in a liberal bubble in Chicago. And you know, you don’t have to acquire a lot of knowledge to be acceptable in those circles, and I think what we’re seeing is, as he emerges from that bubble, we’re seeing his view of reality. And I think it’s right there for Senator McCain to go after.

I LOVE this! In one paragraph Bolton sliced, diced, and grilled BHO like a Benihana teppan chef!

re: #16 Iron Fist

,

One of the things that led to the Cuban Missile Crisis. That is a great pattern to emulate, isn't it?

Maybe this time we could play Global Thermonuclear War for real. Unlike Khrushchev, the Iranians don't care that they'd come out on the short end of the stick

Camelot was a very dangerous place.

Three more accounts have been blocked, after going into our old threads about Ted Kennedy and spewing hatred. I'm now closing those threads.

re: #112 Russkilitlover

I LOVE this! In one paragraph Bolton sliced, diced, and grilled BHO like a Benihana teppan chef!

How I wish John Bolton could run for POTUS and win!

Even Reagan tried to get around the Mad Mullahs in Iran, and try low-level meetings with the so-called "moderates" (Bud McFarland and the key-shaped cake). That got them exactly nowhere.

re: #101 galloping granny

In the south we say "it's like putting lipstick on a pig".

"Racism....it's racism...! It's massive RACISM....!"

--African-American guest lecturing Laura Ingraham on The O'Reilly Factor last night

re: #114 Charles

Three more accounts have been blocked, after going into our old threads about Ted Kennedy and spewing hatred. I'm now closing those threads.

Wow!

/when mobys attack

re: #117 jorline

In the south we say "it's like putting lipstick on a pig".

Yup. Or trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

re: #93 firebreather

"Any...uh...criticism of me...uh...my wife...the Daily Kos...and...uh...Chris Matthews... is...I find...uh...un-American...downright mean...and...uh...against hope...change...and...uh...the hope for change..."

This reminds me of a random word generator!

What is scary is that he uses these and about 600 other words, mixes 'em up and spouts 'em out. That's it. He is sooooo young.

I think Godfrey #re: #73 godfrey is dead on . . . 'nancyboy' hahahaha, that's good and accurate.

re: #114 Charles

Three more accounts have been blocked, after going into our old threads about Ted Kennedy and spewing hatred. I'm now closing those threads.

Some people have too much time on their hands.

Obama is forming a search committee to find a VP running mate. Remember, Stay near your phones for that call?

re: #114 Charles

Three more accounts have been blocked, after going into our old threads about Ted Kennedy and spewing hatred. I'm now closing those threads.

Good for you, Charles. Our civility is what sets us apart from DU and the Daily Kos.

re: #115 galloping granny

How I wish John Bolton could run for POTUS and win!

You said it. There are great statesmen/women out there, they just don't get promoted by their parties. Sad, really. We wind up with the worst of the least.

re: #122 MandyManners

Some people have too much time on their hands.

Is that directed at me by chance?

re: #18 galloping granny

And he had best first take care of healing his own broken soul.

Obama has a soul?

re: #119 Ward Cleaver

Wow!

/when mobys attack

Can we skin those moby's for their blubber?
Heating fuel for next winter!

re: #121 Sabnen

For a candidate with such an impressive vocabulary, he somehow always manages to say nothing. The pregnant pauses and the repeated "uhs" give an artificial sense of gravity to Obama's empty words.

re: #114 Charles

Three more accounts have been blocked, after going into our old threads about Ted Kennedy and spewing hatred. I'm now closing those threads.

I had a bad feeling about Kennedy when I saw him on the news last night, leaving the hospital. His gait was somewhat unsteady, and it made me think, "He's dying". I could be totally wrong here, but I get the feeling the doctors have told him to get his affairs in order, and prepare to leave this earth. He may just decide to try to enjoy his remaining time as best he can. I wouldn't want to be in his shoes.

re: #120 galloping granny

Yup. Or trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

Yep...it's still a stinking pig...LOL

re: #118 firebreather

"Racism....it's racism...! It's massive RACISM....!"

--African-American guest lecturing Laura Ingraham on The O'Reilly Factor last night

* * *
Mr. "Toure", with an accent over the "e", a Hollywood/movie critic, did have a point.

Why did Clint Eastwood (and Steven Spielberg but fact check me please) not include black actors when the US Army had black soldiers in all these WWII battles?

re: #110 bluegrassredstate

It's also a symbol of the city of Louisville, KY.

Something about the French kings coming back or something.

Yes- the Fleur-de-lis has a long and fascinating history:

While it has appeared on countless European coats of arms and flags over the centuries, the fleur-de-lis is particularly associated with the French monarchy on a historical context, and nowadays with the Spanish monarchy as the only remaining monarchs of the House of Bourbon

re: #122 MandyManners

Some people have too much time on their hands.

And not enough brains in their heads.

re: #128 jorline

Can we skin those moby's for their blubber?
Heating fuel for next winter!

And women's perfume!

re: #27 lawhawk

Another probability is that DISILLUSIONMENT is beginning to take hold. There is not much worse than to be promised CHANGE and HOPE and then discover it just ain't happening. Perhaps some of the more progressive elements in the Labor-Socialist Democratic Party sphere are starting to turn on the Messiah-Obama?

re: #114 Charles

Three more accounts have been blocked, after going into our old threads about Ted Kennedy and spewing hatred. I'm now closing those threads.

CHARLES... When do you find time to sleep? Thanks for being so consciousness and vigilant. Three Cheers for Charles!

re: #129 buzzsawmonkey

Have him call OJ. OJ will help him find the real vice-president.

I bet ahmadinnajab or chavez might have a pertinent suggestion or two.

re: #130 firebreather

For a candidate with such an impressive vocabulary, he somehow always manages to say nothing. The pregnant pauses and the repeated "uhs" give an artificial sense of gravity to Obama's empty words.

I love the guy on SNL who does Obama. He has his speech patterns and cadence down to a T.
:D

re: #122 MandyManners

Some people have too much time on their hands.

LGF can be a time sink. I have problems tearing myself away from it, since I find it enthralling. Kind of like right now, for instance.

Later, Lizards.

re: #112 Russkilitlover

I LOVE this! In one paragraph Bolton sliced, diced, and grilled BHO like a Benihana teppan chef!

He goes on to say:

This is all about specifics and context, and that is, I think, one of Senator Obama’s biggest weaknesses. He talks in vague generalities, and so far, look, he’s getting away with it. But that’s not how you conduct foreign policy in the real world.

Hey AL, We haz your Gorebull warming here in Riverside County.
Today, the high is 68 and tomorrow it's expected to be 64. Normal temps are in the 90's this time of year.

re: #130 firebreather

For a candidate with such an impressive vocabulary, he somehow always manages to say nothing. The pregnant pauses and the repeated "uhs" give an artificial sense of gravity to Obama's empty words.

* * *
Both President Bushes are sort of verbally challenged, but I've gotten over it.

re: #114 Charles

Three more accounts have been blocked, after going into our old threads about Ted Kennedy and spewing hatred. I'm now closing those threads.

I guess they enjoy going into a deserted room and playing with themselves and thought no one looking.

re: #111 taxfreekiller

Hey, that's just weather. A wee bit inconvenient after all.

And if you look at the weather in the NE of late, you're wondering what happened to spring as it's been 10 degrees below normal of late.

re: #55 jaunte

For your famous quotes file:

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

Excellent!

re: #146 buzzsawmonkey

buzz, you da man!

re: #148 jorline

I guess they enjoy going into a deserted room and playing with themselves and thought no one looking.

And BOY- were they wrong.

Obama's short list of VP candidates:

1) Markos "Screw 'Em" Something-or-other
2) Ramsey Clark
3) Arianna H
4) William Ayers
5) Achmadinejad

re: #130 firebreather

Do you think if I could trade my 'umms' for 'uhs' it will make me sound more intelligent? Is this Obama's secret? If so, I think I'll run for President!

re: #114 Charles

Three more accounts have been blocked, after going into our old threads about Ted Kennedy and spewing hatred. I'm now closing those threads.

At this point, they have to be doing it so that other blogs can say "Look at the hate here", not because any Lizards will read the posts.
Were there any regulars, or one post mobys?

re: #148 jorline

I guess they enjoy going into a deserted room and playing with themselves and thought no one looking.

More likely trying to seed the thread with some nasty comments that can then be quoted as "evidence" of our general hatefulness.

re: #146 buzzsawmonkey

Very good, buzzsaw.

re: #153 firebreather

* * *
What about his superdelegate Mr. Yee, the former Guantanamo imam, who graduated from West Point and goes on Syrian TV to trash the US!

Sounds like a match made in caliphate heaven.

Obama VP? Can any of you see it being Wesley Clark?

re: #105 redheadredstate

My daughter has an Irish dance competition in Denver right around the time of the convention. I think we'll be skipping that one this year. Something tells me that the fireworks in July won't just happen on the 4th.

Hah. Lord of the Dance in one part of Denver, Lord of the Flies in another.

Get a heavy umbrella. At this rate, there will also be Lord of the Rings somewhere, and the Flying Nazgul are very unpleasant.

"Whether Ahmadinejad is the right person to meet with right now, we don't even know how much power he is going to have a year from now," Obama added. "He is not the most powerful person in Iran."

He said he would expect "to meet with those people who can actually make decisions" in Iran on its nuclear program, its aid to terrorists and destabilization in Iraq.

Wait a minute! Does this mean Obama is now admitting Iran is aiding terrorists and destabilizing Iraq? He had denied both those points in the past, so I guess his foreign policy is growing more nuanced right before our very own eyes!

re: #149 lawhawk

Hey, that's just weather. A wee bit inconvenient after all.

And if you look at the weather in the NE of late, you're wondering what happened to spring as it's been 10 degrees below normal of late.

We're having less rain than we did at this time last year, but I am seriously starting to wonder if it will be warm enough in 8 days to put in the tomatoes and peppers - if they are even big enough to put in. I've got great root development but they are awfully small for plants that are 8-10 weeks old. Probably going to have to black-plastic mulch them and maybe cap them too if I can round up enough empty milk jugs.

re: #142 NoSubmission

OK, I have got to see this. Note to self: Look up NoSubmssion's link when home.......

re: #152 Sharmuta

And BOY- were they wrong.

Yep. We got the embarassing photographs now. ;-)

ANYONE saying ANYTHING negative about this guy gets labeled as a racist. 90% of blacks vote for this guy (nothing racist there). So are the 10% of blacks that don't vote for the chosen one racist as well? I thought that black people could not be racist. I am truly confused.

re: #133 alegrias

* * *
Mr. "Toure", with an accent over the "e", a Hollywood/movie critic, did have a point.

Why did Clint Eastwood (and Steven Spielberg but fact check me please) not include black actors when the US Army had black soldiers in all these WWII battles?

As far a Iwo Jima was concerned, the black soldiers were confined to the Army soldiers attached to Marine Divisions. They were mostly Amphib Truck (DUCK) units tasked to bring in the heavy artillery. My dad was a Captain of the 476th Amphibian truck Company attached to the 4th Marines. The other units were the 471th attached to the 5th Marines and the 473rd. There was also a 138th Anti-Aircraft Artillery Group but I am not sure if it was integrated. The Amphib units were all Black with whiter Officers. I was upset also that they were not depicted in Eastwood's movie.

Wow, I'm stunned. that article and its headline banner deserve the flying pig banner.

re: #152 Sharmuta

And BOY- were they wrong.

thought they were in there spanking the monkey alone and got caught by Dad.

Sorry for that monkey reference, buzzsaw.

re: #159 tfc3rid

Obama will make Wesley Clark his Sec-Def. That will go over really well at the Pentagon and in the ranks.

re: #159 tfc3rid

Obama VP? Can any of you see it being Wesley Clark?

Maybe. I still think Bill Richardson is more likely.

re: #163 Russkilitlover
It's radio. I know it's from a coupl of days ago, but it is good. Runs almost an hour. Turn it up, put it on while you're puttering around the house. I've listened to it a few times. Also in the beginning, John McCain's clips in response to Obama's "Iran is a tiny threat" are also priceless.

re: #159 tfc3rid

Obama VP? Can any of you see it being Wesley Clark?

Yes.

re: #81 swami

Check out the Obama photo AP posted an hour ago.

Note the halo effect.

IIRC there were photos of Jimmy Carter that were backlit to show his hair glowing.

re: #133 alegrias

* * *
Mr. "Toure", with an accent over the "e", a Hollywood/movie critic, did have a point.

Why did Clint Eastwood (and Steven Spielberg but fact check me please) not include black actors when the US Army had black soldiers in all these WWII battles?

The black soldiers who served in the Pacific & European theaters (there weren't very many, as the military was segregated at that time) are praiseworthy but Eastwood's/Spielberg's slight omissions were hardly deliberate (what would be their motive?). And how would that slight omission be an example of massive racism in America? The aggrieved Toure, or whatever his name was, was just peddling typical anti-white racism on the show. O'Reilly has had a bunch of these goofy people on recently.

re: #165 VegasRick

ANYONE saying ANYTHING negative about this guy gets labeled as a racist. 90% of blacks vote for this guy (nothing racist there). So are the 10% of blacks that don't vote for the chosen one racist as well? I thought that black people could not be racist. I am truly confused.

Black's who don't vote for Obama will be labeled Uncle Toms by Obama's cult followers.

That's about a dozen people so far who couldn't stop themselves from being ugly. Several of them have followed up with ranting, pissed off emails to me, telling me that I have no balls, I'm like Stalin, or I'm a closet leftist. In one, Ted Kennedy was described as "worse than Hitler."

The moral of the story: the left may be more accomplished at it, but they don't have any monopoly on rotten behavior.

re: #133 alegrias

Why did Clint Eastwood (and Steven Spielberg but fact check me please) not include black actors when the US Army had black soldiers in all these WWII battles?

IMHO, Black Soldiers and pilots were considered inferior. In some cases after the exploits of the Tuskegee Airmen or Black soldiers who were pressed into service in the Battle of the Bulge and received high praise from Gen. Omar Bradley, Ike and Patton.

If you want to a click speaker try a few seconds of David Miscavige.

My lack of God! What a load of bullshit!

Obama is stubborn, righteously stubborn. And it is negatively manifested in a condescending manner.

IMO, this is what made the Rev Wright mess a whole lot worse than it otherwise would have been. Obama should have canned Wright with the first whiff of press interest in him and his rantings.

And like this appeasement tag, he should have backed off this the day after he said it months ago.

But he won't. Because he's right and you're wrong. Stubborn condescension.

.

re: #169 Kenneth

Obama will make Wesley Clark his Sec-Def. That will go over really well at the Pentagon and in the ranks.

obambi will create 2 new positions. Secretary of No Defense and Secretary of No Fence.

re: #5 Dr. Shalit

Today's NY Times ran an article on how JFK got his clock cleaned by Khruschev at the 1961 Paris Summit. Maybe someone out in MSM land GETS IT.

Now I know that I'm dreaming! Did the NYT point out Obama said something stupid?..get me my fan Ashley darlin; I'm going to faint.

re: #90 godfrey

Whoa. Typos and garbled syntax. Blood sugar getting low! Lunch, stat!

Godfrey Daniel!

re: #177 Charles

That's about a dozen people so far who couldn't stop themselves from being ugly. Several of them have followed up with ranting, pissed off emails to me, telling me that I have no balls, I'm like Stalin, or I'm a closet leftist. In one, Ted Kennedy was described as "worse than Hitler."

The moral of the story: the left may be more accomplished at it, but they don't have any monopoly on rotten behavior.

Give them your cell phone number.

Kudos to Calvin Woodward, Associated Press Writer. I'm sure he will be labeled a "raciest" by the Obama attack machine, but he told it like it is.

What can the Obamanation offer Iran? After all Iran wants the US out of Iraq precipitously, so it can take over the Basra oilfields, as it attempted to do earlier this year to no success thanks to the US and Iraqi Army units, and so it could cause chaos as the troops leave.
But BHO has already promised to do this WITHOUT any concessions from Iran about any policy or behavoiral changes. So Iran could up the ante significantly, and if Iran breaks any promises it makes? A very stern letter will come from BHO's Secretary of State, Djimmah Carter.

re: #129 buzzsawmonkey

Have him call OJ. OJ will help him find the real vice-president.

Obama / Obama '08.

re: #177 Charles

Do you know if these ranters are bona-fide LGFers or are they trolls and mobies? I understand you don't want to name names, but it would clarify for us who is sending the crap.

PIMF!

If you want to see a slick speaker try a few seconds of David Miscavige.

re: #189 jcm

Obama / Obama '08.

Out of curiosity is there any law about a wife being the running mate of her husband?

re: #186 Nevergiveup

Give them your cell phone number.

Give 'em a cell phone number that starts 1-900-....

They think he skated thru the Rev stuff, so any lie will do from now on until the anyone but Bush is president.

'file under careful what you wish for

No blacks in Lord of The Rings either.

Though the bad guys were dark skinned.

I call racism.

re: #102 Dianna

I've been trying to catch up - I gather everyone's been up or at work longer than I have.

AP actually noticed there's a few problems with Obama? Goodness, they must really have hurt themselves when they tripped over that!

Currently wearing cervical collars from their double takes.

re: #189 jcm

Doesn't Secret Service Protection protocol calls for the President and Vice-President to be physically separated? Are you saying that BHO can't stand her either?

re: #176 Kenneth

Black's who don't vote for Obama will be labeled Uncle Toms by Obama's cult followers.

I think blacks that are opposed to Obama are already pretty much labeled as Uncle Toms. From what I have seen they seem to be well educated and successful people in their fields of endeavor that just also happen to be black.

re: #156 galloping granny

More likely trying to seed the thread with some nasty comments that can then be quoted as "evidence" of our general hatefulness.

LOL...was evidence left on a blue dress?

re: #192 Nevergiveup

Out of curiosity is there any law about a wife being the running mate of her husband?

You just scared the snot outta' me.

re: #197 Conservative in Liberal Hands

Can you blame him?

re: #189 jcm

Obama / Obama '08.

He's runninng along with his ego.

re: #105 redheadredstate

My daughter has an Irish dance competition in Denver right around the time of the convention. I think we'll be skipping that one this year. Something tells me that the fireworks in July won't just happen on the 4th.

No kidding?

My two nieces competed (for the 4th year in a row) in the Irish Dancing World championship in Dublin (I think, or maybe Scotland). It was held over Easter weekend.

They're spectacular dancers, but this year ended not so good: the oldest girl fell, and the younger one finished way out of the running.

Worst of all I hear, the beer was warm. Ugh.

.

re: #201 Nevergiveup

/Snicker

re: #195 Maine's Michael

No blacks in Lord of The Rings either.

Though the bad guys were dark skinned.

I call racism.

Weren't there some Sothrings or somesuch?

re: #192 Nevergiveup

Out of curiosity is there any law about a wife being the running mate of her husband?

Yes! The 12th Amendment to the Constitution.

re: #5 Dr. Shalit

Wow, and it only took 47 years.

re: #181 VegasRick

obambi will create 2 new positions. Secretary of No Defense and Secretary of No Fence.

Reminds me of a Firesign Theatre bit with a hippy government that had the "secretary of states of consciousness", the "secretary of inner peace".
It also had the representative of the Soviet Sociable Respublic say "we too want peace - of Nigeria"

re: #206 Sharmuta

Yes! The 12th Amendment to the Constitution.

Very good- they must be from seperate states.

Wait a minute...has the Messiah given anyone permission to discuss his foreign policy views?

Here comes more whining and sniveling about "out of context" and "poorly chosen words" from the savior of the lunatic left.

Seriously, the more the media, even the MSM, look at this guy, the more they are realizing there is nothing there. Aside from the kooks, I have a gram of confidence that we will begin to see more reporting deserving of a pig with wings.

re: #203 Dad O' Blondes

Warm beer... WARM BEER? Do they think we're in the UK... Scandal! Unless you're really thirsty and there's nothing else to drink

re: #195 Maine's Michael

There are relatively few blacks in the Bible too. I call Massive Racism™

OT: Pro Israel Christians Gather in Washington

re: #195 Maine's Michael

No blacks in Lord of The Rings either.

Though the bad guys were dark skinned.

I call racism.

Speaking of revisionist history, I remember a few years back when a movie was made about mass murderer Richard Ramirez (the 'Nightstalker' who killed many in California in the 1980s); the Latino Ramirez was portrayed by a blonde, blue-eyed white actor.

re: #180 Dad O' Blondes

Obama is stubborn, righteously stubborn. And it is negatively manifested in a condescending manner.

IMO, this is what made the Rev Wright mess a whole lot worse than it otherwise would have been. Obama should have canned Wright with the first whiff of press interest in him and his rantings.

And like this appeasement tag, he should have backed off this the day after he said it months ago.

But he won't. Because he's right and you're wrong. Stubborn condescension.

.

Obama made his big mistake with "reverend" Wright when he sat in the pew for TWENTY years. From that point, it does not matter when he "canned" him- if he ever did and I frankly doubt that he did. The fact remains that he agreed with Wright, if only by his silence and acquiescence. Too late now to claim that he does not.

re: #192 Nevergiveup

Out of curiosity is there any law about a wife being the running mate of her husband?

No. Nothing. The Constitution doesn't say anything about the qualifications, but constitutional law experts pretty much say that to be VP, you've got to meet the same qualifications as needed for President.

The Constitution is also silent on the "post" of First Lady (or man) if and when a woman is elected President.

re: #206 Sharmuta

Yes! The 12th Amendment to the Constitution.

I just looked and I cannot find a spousal exception.

re: #177 Charles

You can tell a lot about a person by the way they handle certain situations. I think we're much better off without those heartless clowns.

re: #211 Conservative in Liberal Hands

Warm beer... WARM BEER? Do they think we're in the UK... Scandal! Unless you're really thirsty and there's nothing else to drink

The Brits ask "Why do Americans drink their beer cold?"
Answer: "So they can tell it from piss"
That was a pre-microbrew joke.

re: #177 Charles

That's about a dozen people so far who couldn't stop themselves from being ugly. Several of them have followed up with ranting, pissed off emails to me, telling me that I have no balls, I'm like Stalin, or I'm a closet leftist. In one, Ted Kennedy was described as "worse than Hitler."

The moral of the story: the left may be more accomplished at it, but they don't have any monopoly on rotten behavior.

Nice work Comrade Charles.

re: #192 Nevergiveup

Out of curiosity is there any law about a wife being the running mate of her husband?

Not that I'm aware of. Just need to be qualified for the office of President. 35 and a natural born citizen.

re: #217 MandyManners

They have to be from different states. Unless the couple isn't living together- then I suppose they could be running-mates.

re: #81 swami

Check out the Obama photo AP posted an hour ago.

Note the halo effect.

I think someone(Malkin or the Nat Review?) is compiling all the many obamessiah "halo" photos. They had a page up on it recently. Eventually, it will probably end up being on Fox (which has a habit of not crediting the blogs that do the research). Joseph Stalin would have been so proud of these clowns.

What I'd like to know is the names of the photographers taking the photos. Specifically, if they happened to be from certain organizations.

re: #192 Nevergiveup

Out of curiosity is there any law about a wife being the running mate of her husband?

No there is not. At the time the Constitution was written the possibility that women might someday run for office was never even considered, to Abigail Adams' deep chagrin. A Constitutional Amendment was added post WWII to prevent a repeat of FDR's four consecutive terms, but that is the only modification.

re: #175 firebreather

The black soldiers who served in the Pacific & European theaters
(there weren't very many, as the military was segregated at that time)
are praiseworthy but Eastwood's/Spielberg's slight omissions were
hardly deliberate (what would be their motive?). And how would that
slight omission be an example of massive racism
in America? The aggrieved Toure, or whatever his name was, was just
peddling typical anti-white racism on the show. O'Reilly has had a
bunch of these goofy people on recently.

Iwo was mostly fought by the Marines. Were there many black Marines in WWII, were any on Iwo at all? I know that the former elevator operator in my building (yeah, it's an old building) was a black Marine, but he wasn't on Iwo - he spent time with headhunters in the jungles.

re: #217 MandyManners

I just looked and I cannot find a spousal exception.

No but the President and VP must be from separate states, so assuming both Obama and his wife are Illinois residents, he could not pick her.

re: #212 Kenneth

There are relatively few blacks in the Bible too. I call Massive Racism™

I think that Toure guy tripped & stubbed his toe, then got up & screamed: "Racism!" at the top of his lungs.

So naturally the media gave him a platform to expound on his views further.

Rush is calling Obama the illegitimate candidate if they don't count Fla

The theory that the USA is always the cause of discord is so often repeated in Liberal circles that some actually believe it. The cure. then , is to engage in some sort of dialoque wherein we can resolve differences and appease foreign concers with minimal harm to ouselves and none to foriegn nations. This theory unconciously premises that foreign nations are peaceseeking liberals just like the halfwits who fail to recognize emnity when it is spat in their faces. "Death To America." "Behead All Infidels" "God Damn The US Of KKK"

re: #205 MandyManners

Weren't there some Sothrings or somesuch?

They were based on Arabs - more racism!

re: #190 Kenneth

Do you know if these ranters are bona-fide LGFers or are they trolls and mobies? I understand you don't want to name names, but it would clarify for us who is sending the crap.

Impossible to know how many are fakers, but I don't think very many of them are. Most are definitely not mobys.

re: #206 Sharmuta

Yes! The 12th Amendment to the Constitution.

The Twelfth Amendment does not directly preclude the election of a President and Vice President from the same state,

She might still be eligible?

re: #226 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Iwo was mostly fought by the Marines. Were there many black Marines in WWII, were any on Iwo at all? I know that the former elevator operator in my building (yeah, it's an old building) was a black Marine, but he wasn't on Iwo - he spent time with headhunters in the jungles.

See my 166.

re: #133 alegrias

* * *
Mr. "Toure", with an accent over the "e", a Hollywood/movie critic, did have a point.

Why did Clint Eastwood (and Steven Spielberg but fact check me please) not include black actors when the US Army had black soldiers in all these WWII battles?

IIRC, in WWII the black soldiers were segregated into seperate units.
The U.S. military was not de-segregated until a presidential order from Harry Truman.

By the way, it was a black unit that liberated Buchenwald. The former Chief Rabbi of Israel has recalled how, when he was eight years old in Buchenwald, a black soldier gave him his first piece of chocolate.

re: #233 jcm

See my 197

re: #177 Charles

No political tendency has a monopoly on insanity. Worse, it's bad when people get frustrated and then explode.

Take care of yourself, and remember that we appreciate you.

HURGH. Can't sleep again...

re: #198 galloping granny

I read a comment posted at a liberal "news" website, written by a black resident of Chicago. He was very much opposed to what he termed "half-black" impostors like Obama & Rev. Wright standing up and pretending to speak for the real African Americans. Interesting point of view, I'll try to find it & repost it here.

Well, in my opinion, Holllywood has an obligation to accurately reflect the composition of America's troops who've served our country if true historic events are depicted on film.

Troops defending the USA are the bravest & best among us.

If liberal directors DON'T accurately depict true historic events, that is taking liberties for liberal reasons--perhaps to hide or denigrate our country's rich diversity united for freedom & defense of liberties.

Sorry, I don't buy there's no reason or there's a shortage of actors to reflect our military's true colors.

Reports: Obama Begins VP Search

A veteran Democratic activist who helped John Kerry select a VP has been picked to start the search, according to CNN.
Thursday, May 22, 2008
By Paul Westcott
National Producer
Just days after John McCain announced he is searching for a VP candidate, Barack Obama is doing the same.

Former Fannie Mae CEO Jim Johnson, who helped select John Edwards as John Kerry's running mate in 2004 will lead the search. Johnson also lead the search for Walter Mondale's VP.

Johnson told CNN the search is "at a very early point" but that campaign workers "have been informally thinking about it for a while."

Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton declined to comment on the report.
Obama / ? 08

re: #234 Nevergiveup

Didn't know that the DUKW crews were black. I learn something new everyday at LGF.

re: #235 Clio

IIRC, in WWII the black soldiers were segregated into seperate units.
The U.S. military was not de-segregated until a presidential order from Harry Truman.

By the way, it was a black unit that liberated Buchenwald. The former Chief Rabbi of Israel has recalled how, when he was eight years old in Buchenwald, a black soldier gave him his first piece of chocolate.

That is not actually entirely true. They did not liberate Buchenwald. That unit arrived soon after the liberation.

re: #235 Clio

IIRC the phrase "Go For Broke!" comes from the bemedalled Japanese-American regiment of the US Army back then...

re: #232 Charles

Impossible to know how many are fakers, but I don't think very many of them are. Most are definitely not mobys.

Are they generally people who've been registered for a long time, yet have low post counts ("lurkers")?

re: #226 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I'm far less knowledgable about the war in the Pacific than the war in the Euro theater but there were virtually no blacks serving on the front lines in the Euro theater (this is of course a stain on the military & our society at the time & not the fault of black soldiers).

But last night some racist agitator was on Fox News screeching that America is massively racist because Clint Eastwood failed to include black soldiers in his fanciful depiction of Iwo Jima. I'd be shocked if there were more than a tiny handful of blacks who participated in the battle.

re: #240 alegrias

Amen.

re: #216 lawhawk

No. Nothing. The Constitution doesn't say anything about the qualifications, but constitutional law experts pretty much say that to be VP, you've got to meet the same qualifications as needed for President.

The Constitution is also silent on the "post" of First Lady (or man) if and when a woman is elected President.

He'll need to offer a more centrist reach outer. Hillary has proven his need to do so.

Will Hillary's lawyers approve though, I think they may even push back the general due to vote%/delagates fiasco.

re: #206 Sharmuta

Yes! The 12th Amendment to the Constitution.

No, sorry Sharmuta. The kiddo and I read every word of it a couple of weeks ago re the John McCain eligibility flap raised by the Obama camp. Not one word about spouses. There is an age requirement and a citizenship requirement. There is also a specific statement that no president can serve more than 2 terms, even if one of those partial terms is an inherited term and even if there has been a haitus between terms.

Thus Bill Clinton cannot ever serve as POTUS again and so also cannot serve as VP.

Re John McCain's eligibility, at the time that John McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone, the PCZ was a territory of the United States of America in the same way that Alaska and Hawai'i were and that Puerto Rico, Guam and the Virgin Islands remain. He is without doubt an American citizen by birth not an American citizen naturalized at birth (which he would have been if he had been born on an Army base in Europe) or a dual citizen, which Obama was by way of the Kenyan citizenship of his father.

re: #226 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I read somewhere it was 900 out of an American strength of 110,000.

Our military was segregated, that is a fact.

I have seen Letters from Iwo Jima, but not Flags of Our Fathers.

Letters is from the Japanese viewpoint; there are almost no US Marines in it, actually.

Flags is less of a war story than the story of what happened to the men that raised the flag on Suribachi, from what I can gather.

Spike Lee is playing the race card for free publicity, as he always does, and the movie reviewer is acting as an echo chamber.

re: #82 Iron Fist

I agree, but I have this haunting feeling that if Obama does not get the nomination, it will be blamed on President Bush somehow. That is the only way the Dems will not tear each other apart. Somehow someone will come out and say it.

I got 5 bucks that says I am right.

re: #12 Teacake!

In the old West, he would have been called a snake oil salesman.

His "cures" will work about as well.

re: #235 Clio

IIRC, in WWII the black soldiers were segregated into seperate units.
The U.S. military was not de-segregated until a presidential order from Harry Truman.

By the way, it was a black unit that liberated Buchenwald. The former Chief Rabbi of Israel has recalled how, when he was eight years old in Buchenwald, a black soldier gave him his first piece of chocolate.

In the Navy, blacks could only serve as stewards (galley workers, essentially).
That didn't stop them from fighting, when all hands were needed to man antiaircraft guns, or in submarines. They served honorably, despite the way they were treated.

re: #235 Clio

IIRC, in WWII the black soldiers were segregated into seperate units.
The U.S. military was not de-segregated until a presidential order from Harry Truman.

By
the way, it was a black unit that liberated Buchenwald. The former
Chief Rabbi of Israel has recalled how, when he was eight years old in
Buchenwald, a black soldier gave him his first piece of chocolate.

When the Alaskan highway was being built during WWII, some Eskimo villages that were reached were so remote that the first "white man" the Eskimos ever saw were the black soldiers that were building the highway!

The film critic Touré was named after the African dictator, Ahmed Sekou Touré.

Go figure.

re: #230 pat

This theory unconciously premises that foreign nations are peaceseeking liberals just like the halfwits who fail to recognize emnity when it is spat in their faces. "Death To America." "Behead All Infidels" "God Damn The US Of KKK"

It is truly amazing how these bitchslaps are simply accepted with a smile. Is this cowardice, lack of self-respect or "turning the other cheek" gone wild?

The 12th Amendment:

The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and all persons voted for as Vice-President and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate.

The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted.

The person having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.

The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

An elector cannot vote for two people from his/her own state. Thus, Michelle Obama nor any other Illinois resident is elegible to be VP for Barack Obama.

re: #242 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Didn't know that the DUKW crews were black. I learn something new everyday at LGF.

Well those were on Iwo Jima. One of my dad's soldiers got the Silver Star. His unit did not get a Unit Citation until the 1970's due to racism in the Army at the time of WW2. I am still in touch with one of the Soldiers in his unit.

re: #231 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Not in the book. The movie is a different matter.

re: #241 LeftJustAintRight

Former Fannie Mae CEO Jim Johnson, who helped select John Edwards as John Kerry's running mate in 2004 will lead the search. Johnson also lead the search for Walter Mondale's VP.

Heck of a track record, Jimmy! Um, who was Walter Mondale's VP choice?

I saw the Toure segment. I watch when Ingram is hosting. My favorite talk radio host. I thought he had a somewhat valid observation from a historical point, but only if the black compamy's tasks were depicted in the movie. If they were amphibian piolots, I suppose there is a point. But I saw neither movie. What was most offensive was his description of "Massive Racism" in America, multiple times. To hom there is only one racist: white people. And they have desparately kept him from being a movie critic and Obama from being nominated for President. Toure is another delusional crybaby.

re: #246 firebreather

I'm far less knowledgable about the war in the Pacific than the war in the Euro theater but there were virtually no blacks serving on the front lines in the Euro theater (this is of course a stain on the military & our society at the time & not the fault of black soldiers).

But last night some racist agitator was on Fox News screeching that America is massively racist because Clint Eastwood failed to include black soldiers in his fanciful depiction of Iwo Jima. I'd be shocked if there were more than a tiny handful of blacks who participated in the battle.

re: #166 Nevergiveup

As far a Iwo Jima was concerned, the black soldiers were confined to the Army soldiers attached to Marine Divisions. They were mostly Amphib Truck (DUCK) units tasked to bring in the heavy artillery. My dad was a Captain of the 476th Amphibian truck Company attached to the 4th Marines. The other units were the 471th attached to the 5th Marines and the 473rd. There was also a 138th Anti-Aircraft Artillery Group but I am not sure if it was integrated. The Amphib units were all Black with whiter Officers. I was upset also that they were not depicted in Eastwood's movie.

There were not many.

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re: #255 Kenneth

? Those little squares are supposed to be accents over the letter "e".

re: #249 galloping granny

Sorry, Granny, but the 12th states that he cannot choose a VP candidate from his own state. See my #258 with the text for the amendment.