They're laughing at her!

Waters and oil don't mix.

Let's arrange a date for Thugo and Maxine!

Maxine is brilliantly stupid in her own special way.

Hey, it could happen. Laugh while ye may.

methinks this should be a daily thread...

ah, the moonbattery!

By my count there have been 38 congressional investigations into gas price fixing.

38 time market forces where the cause.

When she said "socialize" I thought perhaps she was worried that the employees of oil companies just didn't have any friends, and that she is here to help with that...

Did any of you listen to the recent Senate hearings with the oil execs? You think these Dems are incapable of this? I certainly don't.

re: #7 jcm

to be fair, the futures market is really screwing things up right now. but no, socializing the fuel industry won't solve anything.

This liberal will be about socia---- (bites tongue).

The real Maxine for just a second....
A Gramsican Whore!

As if we didn't already know.

re: #9 rawmuse

Did any of you listen to the recent Senate hearings with the oil execs? You think these Dems are incapable of this? I certainly don't.

That's why we must not let BHO win.

Bad guy from an Ayn Rand novel.

If the prices keep going up, the government will have to Nationalize the oil companies to prevent some serious riots from taking place.

Video: Maxine Waters threatens to nationalize America’s oil industry.

Except she couldn't even think of the word "nationalizing"

"basically.... taking over...."

Pitiful.

N²L³

Unfortunately, her knowledge of the laws of supply and demand is her forte.

re: #15 mojo jojo

or people will start curtailing their driving

re: #18 pdogg

Unfortunately, her knowledge of the laws of supply and demand is her forte.

What?

re: #20 MandyManners

That was Maxine being as smart as she could be.

That will get us cheap oil.
Well, the price will be cheap but there won't be any oil.

The Dems are trying to repeal the law of supply and demand, but laws like that can't get repealed.

re: #10 schultzw

to be fair, the futures market is really screwing things up right now. but no, socializing the fuel industry won't solve anything.

Futures market, increased demand from India and China, Oil Ticks not increasing production. Lot of effects result in $135 a barrel oil.

Bottom line is we need a rational energy policy with energy independence implemented on a War footing. I'm not talking far out stuff, bring online our know reserves, spin up oil sand and shale. That will bridge us into the next energy economy. At the same time nuclear and clean coal electrical generation. Fast track it all.

And most importantly voters need to throw the Maxine Waters' of the political scene under the bus.

Her and what army?

Maxine Waters can KMA. As soon as I finish these onion rings...

re: #9 rawmuse

Did any of you listen to the recent Senate hearings with the oil execs? You think these Dems are incapable of this? I certainly don't.

Exactly right. A socialist POTUS and socialist majorities in both houses of Congress and they will do whatever they please with perfect inside-the-beltway reasoning.

Drill for oil in ANWAR? Never!

Nationalize the oil industry? A role-call vote would do it!

re: #20 MandyManners

sarc. ;)

Yes Comrade Walters, I will do whatever you say!
/moonbat liberal socialist off

They really do want to destroy the US and turn it into a Dictatorship. Once you do oil, what will stop them from taking guns, private property, other business, etc.

re: #21 jaunte

That was Maxine being as smart as she could be.

WA's own Patty Murray make her look like a rocket scientist.

Remember Odd/Even gas rationing?

Well. That's a way to get gas to 12.00 a gallon really fast.

re: #15 mojo jojo

If the prices keep going up, the government will have to Nationalize the oil companies to prevent some serious riots from taking place do something, like maybe start allowing the oil co's drill through Rudolph's head.

re: #15 mojo jojo

If the prices keep going up, the government will have to Nationalize the oil companies to prevent some serious riots from taking place.

How will that prevent riots?

re: #24 jcm

I'm personally intrigued by the whole oil from shale or sand process and what that could mean for our independence. Yes, and drilling in ANWR is an appropriate idea. After all, once global warming wipes out every creature up north, we can drill for oil w/o disturbing them!

I loved the lady laughing behind Waters as she searched for the word "nationalize",instead saying "socialize". What a maroon.

I can't imagine sitting before this group of Congress critters and having to endure a lecture from Maxine F'ing Waters. Makes me want to gack my dinner right back up.

I nominate my Dog

To replace this shiteous politician.

Nationalize the oil industry.

25¢ gas.
You can get 5 gallons once a week.
Taxes will be increased to pay for the National Oil Agency.
Only approved vehicles will be allowed to gas up.
Complainers will be sent to Joy Camp.

re: #30 Syrah

Yes

I mentioned this in an earlier thread today, asking anyone if they could help me remember Representative Maxine Waters' name.

The video clip at the link is edited for time and to reduce the utter stupidity of her big moment on camera. It took Rep. Waters forever to find another word to replace what she started to say, "to socialize...".

You want true agenda, it was staring us in the face right there. This is where the dems have gone. The party exists no more, except as the political arm of the master plan to reform America to the socialist ideal.

Gosh, I think I'll go listen to "The Internationale" now...

Those few seconds of her stumbling to find a word other than 'socializing' epitomize the ideology of the left.

re: #34 schultzw

I wouldn't count on it very soon. You should see what Canada's program is doing to the Great White North. Very water intensive and very polluting.

re: #34 schultzw

I'm personally intrigued by the whole oil from shale or sand process and what that could mean for our independence. Yes, and drilling in ANWR is an appropriate idea. After all, once global warming wipes out every creature up north, we can drill for oil w/o disturbing them!

The creatures are the only ones in ANWR, along with billions and billions of black flies...

/Sagan off

re: #34 schultzw

Shaddup ya German

/LOL

Ah brilliant Maxine. Cause affordable magic government gas for my car is way more important than expensive gasoline that actually will get delivered to the station near my house.

re: #38 jcm

approved vehicles: Toyota Prius, mopeds, Al Gore's air transport, John Travolta's jets...

anything else I might be forgetting?

I will not trade my SUV in for a moped. How do you intimidate anybody by tailgating them with that thing ?

re: #15 mojo jojo

Nationalizing private property to appease rioters doesn't sit well with me. Appeasing violent people does not solve the problem, only postpones it.

re: #30 Syrah

Remember Odd/Even gas rationing?

That wasn't rationing. That was a brain-dead and absolutely useless constraint.

re: #46 schultzw

Um. Yes.

Her personal Escalade and Escorts?

re: #48 Idle Drifter

Nationalizing private property to appease rioters doesn't sit well with me. Appeasing violent people does not solve the problem, only postpones exacerbates it.

-fixed that for ya

I feel sorry for the oil execs who had to sit for hours and listen to that crap. You make too much money, you get payed too much, and other questions you can not answer.

They produce the fuel that allows you to fly around the country on taxpayers dimes, while restricting where they can and can't get oil and have the audacity to claim that they are the problem. They produce oil, which runs the economy, you produce NOTHING!

re: #47 mikeinmd

you could always get some of those fake testicles hanging off the back

re: #47 mikeinmd

Smith model 29 in a Bianchi shoulder holster

Looks like I bought my government approved scooter just in time.

i think the cartoon maxine is smarter and makes more sense

re: #49 abolitionist

That wasn't rationing. That was a brain-dead and absolutely useless constraint.

You weren't there, were you?

re: #53 schultzw

you could always get some of those fake testicles hanging off the back

of a moped ? HAHAHA.

Sounds like another Obama supporter looking for a cabinet position...how does Oil Minister sound?

re: #34 schultzw

I'm personally intrigued by the whole oil from shale or sand process and what that could mean for our independence. Yes, and drilling in ANWR is an appropriate idea. After all, once global warming wipes out every creature up north, we can drill for oil w/o disturbing them!

Right now as understand it Sand and Shale would profitable. The problem is the method of recovery is *gasp* STRIP MINING *gasp* *faint*.

Other restriction on supply is our refinery capacity is literally maxed out. We haven't built a refinery in 38 years. It speaks volumes about the industries efficiency gains that they've keep up with supply, but eventually we have to build more capacity.

The fuel is most likely hydrogen. We have more than enough oil to get us there.

Can we call them communists now?

re: #59 Maximu§

More like Castor Oil Minister

re: #57 Allah al Fubar

You weren't there, were you?

Out of college by then.

re: #26 average_guy Geez, I hate to say this but Senator McCain said he wouldn't drill in ANWAR either - saw it on FoxNews - maybe his interview with O'Reilly.
But he sure as shit wouldn't nationalize the oil industry.
Why is it that Democrats especially seem to feel that only "fat cats" own shares of stock in large corporations?

re: #59 Maximu§

Sounds like another Obama supporter looking for a cabinet position...how does Oil Minister sound?

Please, stone me now. I must deserve a good stoning. From Oil Minister.

/Dont' hit my dog

re: #54 markie

Smith model 29 in a Bianchi shoulder holster

"I said, 'Back off!'"

re: #60 jcm

strip mining, my favorite type

;)

California- land of the fruits and nuts- Mad Maxine should be nationalized- as an incompetent idiot- and so should the jerks that elected her. Madness. With Gov. running anything the price will go up to $100 a gallon! Dumb demorats.

re: #64 realwest

Hey, Real!

re: #48 Idle Drifter

Nationalizing private property to appease rioters doesn't sit well with me. Appeasing violent people does not solve the problem, only postpones it.

They're doing that with farms in the Former Rhodesia and its working wonderfully.

/sarcasm

Is it possible that she is engaging and intelligent to talk to in person? Just comes across as a moron over the newswires?

re: #61 unrealizedviewpoint

Yes, I have been all along anyway! Commie rats, marxist socialist liberal pigs!

re: #61 unrealizedviewpoint

Can we call them communists now?

Yep.

re: #60 jcm

The fuel is most likely hydrogen. We have more than enough oil to get us there.

We don't have a supply of hydrogen. We have fossil fuels we can get hydrogen from (while losing a lot of the energy content of the fuel), or we can get hydrogen from water, by using about 5 times or more the amount of energy we can get back from using the hydrogen. Where does that energy come from? The National Academy of Engineering says nuclear plants.

These little missteps (misspeaks?) are little windows into their souls.

We see you.

Maxine Waters: Minister of Remedial Affairs

Rhodesia?

re: #57 Allah al Fubar

You weren't there, were you?

I was there. Maxine was similar to these guys I remember from the hour-long gas line at Pendleton. Four guys drive into line in a big old Impala convertible, let the car idle for an hour, get to the pump, and buy a dollar's worth of gas.

In the meantime, my little six cylinder which got close to 30 on the highway and more than 20 around town was pushed forward in neutral whenever the line moved. I filled it up with the max.

re: #64 realwest

Geez, I hate to say this but Senator McCain said he wouldn't drill in ANWAR either - saw it on FoxNews - maybe his interview with O'Reilly.
But he sure as shit wouldn't nationalize the oil industry.
Why is it that Democrats especially seem to feel that only "fat cats" own shares of stock in large corporations?

Yeah, McCain compared ANWAR to the Grand Canyon....how many tourists go to ANWAR? I bet we could poll the lizards and no one here could even vouch for its existence.

I'm not liking trading my way of life for the comfort that the black flies and caribou get from not sharing a little of their space with some oil rigs.

re: #46 schultzw

approved vehicles: Toyota Prius, mopeds, Al Gore's air transport, John Travolta's jets...

anything else I might be forgetting?

Seattle Mayor Nickels chauffeur driven limo.

Nickels: Give cars summer vacation, drive less

Nickels spoke at a Rainier Avenue South intersection, where he showed off a billboard encouraging drivers to switch to light rail. However, they will have to wait: Sound Transit's light-rail line isn't scheduled to open until next year.

He had to be driven to the event, he couldn't drive less and make the pronouncement from his office.

This the same genius who wrote a Christmas to school children if they didn't stop global warming Santa would drown.

re: #30 Syrah Oh yes and I still remember the incredible lines to get gasoline anyway (I mean despite the odd/even deal)!

re: #79 savage_nation

Now Zimbabwe, run by Robert Mugabe

run into the ground.

re: #67 schultzw

strip mining, my favorite type

;)

EARTH FIRST!
We'll mine the other planets later!

re: #55 Noam Sayin' HEY NOAM! Yup, sure looks like you did - but are you SURE it was government approved, hmmm?!
LOL!

I guarantee you Maxine planned her response and the use of the word nationalize. She didn't just awaken with the idea of take 'em over. But why couldn't she find the word?

re: #49 abolitionist

That wasn't rationing. That was a brain-dead and absolutely useless constraint.

Politicians are only really interested in being perceived as "doing something" about a problem. If their solution fails, it will only provide them with another opportunity to be perceived as "doing something" when they propose their next solution.

Gas rationing "worked" in that it allowed politicians to "claim" that they were "doing something" about the situation.

re: #84 jcm

EARTH FIRST!
We'll mine log the other planets later!

fixed it for ya

Rep. Maxine Waters (Moonbat - CA)

/25 pounds of rocks in a ten pound bag

re: #88 Syrah

Kinda like suing OPEC. MAGIC !

re: #60 jcm

Right now as understand it Sand and Shale would profitable. The problem is the method of recovery is *gasp* STRIP MINING *gasp* *faint*.

Other restriction on supply is our refinery capacity is literally maxed out. We haven't built a refinery in 38 years. It speaks volumes about the industries efficiency gains that they've keep up with supply, but eventually we have to build more capacity.

The fuel is most likely hydrogen. We have more than enough oil to get us there.

Working in the oil industry does open people up to new sights and ideas. Drive through Rifle and Parachute, CO and you'll see oil rigs drilling for Natural Gas high up on the hills and even on some of the mountains. Hearing stories from Hot Shot truckers supplying tools to those work sites during the winter would scare some from trying to break into the business.

re: #90 savage_nation

SAVAGE!

re: #90 savage_nation

LOL, Sums it up nicely for me.

re: #74 Kosh's Shadow

We don't have a supply of hydrogen. We have fossil fuels we can get hydrogen from (while losing a lot of the energy content of the fuel), or we can get hydrogen from water, by using about 5 times or more the amount of energy we can get back from using the hydrogen. Where does that energy come from? The National Academy of Engineering says nuclear plants.

Gosh, it'll come from coal and shale, both are plentiful right here in the us.. And drilling in Anwr if we can get the tree huggers loose of them thar trees.. Oh, wait! A senator just flew over Anwr and didn't see a tree or an animal for over 700 miles.

That's okay... let's let Dubai buy us out, and let's let the Saudi's change our laws. Nobody'll notice!

/I am going to be sick.

re: #91 Killian Bundy

/25 pounds of rocks in a ten pound bag

You're certainly not talking about her intellectual quotient.

re: #81 jcm

2008 Mayor of the Year nominations are now closed. The finalists are:

Greg Nickels

Kwame Fitzpatrick

Please cast your ballots by 11:59 ET on Friday, May 23rd.

re: #87 unrealizedviewpoint

I guarantee you Maxine planned her response and the use of the word nationalize. She didn't just awaken with the idea of take 'em over. But why couldn't she find the word?

She started to say socialize..... realized what that meant and tried to recover and come up with nationalize. But was so disconcerted by letting the mask slip on her socialist agenda couldn't recover.

re: #101 savage_nation

Where you be?

re: #79 savage_nation

Oh, I thought it was a rug I bought.. from Rodhesia.

I also bought some new pants from Norweigia.. I like them a lot.

re: #86 realwest

Check yer inbox. I just sent a pic of the scoot.

re: #71 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Is it possible that she is engaging and intelligent to talk to in person? Just comes across as a moron over the newswires?

no.

When the price of oil begins to have an adverse effect on our economy McCain will awaken to the need to drill, and drill everywhere he will. He'll be the 1st to drill through some polar bears head. The man is sensible and changes his mind as the situation warrants.

re: #96 Allah al Fubar

That's okay... let's let Dubai buy us out, and let's let the Saudi's change our laws. Nobody'll notice!

Very few seem to notice it happening already...

re: #89 markie

fixed it for ya

Let's get down to brass tacks.
To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamatation of their women. Then log and mine.

re: #105 joecitizen

no.

Don't you lecture me!

Stop being so wordy, why dontcha?

re: #74 Kosh's Shadow

We don't have a supply of hydrogen. We have fossil fuels we can get hydrogen from (while losing a lot of the energy content of the fuel), or we can get hydrogen from water, by using about 5 times or more the amount of energy we can get back from using the hydrogen. Where does that energy come from? The National Academy of Engineering says nuclear plants.

This looks like a nifty way of finessing the hydrogen-storage problem:
ZINC POWDER WILL DRIVE YOUR HYDROGEN CAR

re: #101 savage_nation

FBV!

Haven't said hi yet.

SAVAGE!

re: #106 unrealizedviewpoint

He already missed that bus. It's already started.

re: #104 Noam Sayin'

Saw where you'd completed a cyclist course. What's yer ride?

Maxine Waters is what Michelle Obama will be in twenty years.

re: #84 jcm

EARTH FIRST!
We'll mine the other planets later!

HaHaHaHa
foflmao

re: #92 wolfie

Kinda like suing OPEC. MAGIC !

Better then magic.

Suing Opec is one way to make Saudi Investments in US based assests "disappear."

It could also make dollar trading of Oil change "presto" into Euro trading of Oil.

re: #114 DesertSage

Maxine Waters is what Michelle Obama will be in twenty years.

I'd a given ya 20 updings for that if I had 'em!

re: #98 schultzw

2008 Mayor of the Year nominations are now closed. The finalists are:

Greg Nickels

Kwame Fitzpatrick

Please cast your ballots by 11:59 ET on Friday, May 23rd.

It's Kwame Kilpatrick, but either way, he's a fine Irish lad...

/

re: #112 markie

He already missed that bus. It's already started.

You're young, you don't know how bad it can get.

re: #109 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Don't you lecture me!

Stop being so wordy, why dontcha?

k.

The oil executive being grilled by Comrade Waters tried telling her that the industry needs to explore and drill in new areas. Nope, can't do that. We've got to protect the polar bear and the moose and the environment, we can't risk oil spills, we can't have ugly ocean platforms or refineries, but we do want you guys to sell at a loss. You'll make it up in volume.

re: #114 DesertSage

That long, huh?

re: #119 really grumpy big dog Johnson

whoops...sad thing is, there's no excuse for that flub.

re: #80 average_guy Yup, but even so, I'm still voting for McCain cause he won't nationalize any industry and just might be serious about alternative fuels/energy resources.

But y'all know we have got to get off our asses with nuclear power - cripes France - FRANCE! - gets something like 70% of it's electrical power form Nuclear reactors. AND before anyone lectures me about how few buildings, homes use oil for heating, check out NYC - I'd wager that probably 90% of all apartment buildings in that city of 8 million people use #4 or #6 fuel oil to heat their buildings. Throw in homowners on Long Island (about 3.5 million) who also use fuel oil and we're talking about saving a HELL OF A LOT OF OIL.
Then lets move to the South/Southwest and solar energy - surely that could save us a few million barrels of oil a day too!

re: #96 Allah al Fubar

Gosh, it'll come from coal and shale, both are plentiful right here in the us.. And drilling in Anwr if we can get the tree huggers loose of them thar trees.. Oh, wait! A senator just flew over Anwr and didn't see a tree or an animal for over 700 miles.

That's okay... let's let Dubai buy us out, and let's let the Saudi's change our laws. Nobody'll notice!

/I am going to be sick.

Yes, we should use coal and shale.
But we are better off, in my opinion, using the oil we extract without further processing to get the hydrogen.
If we absolutely must curtail carbon emissions, sequestering carbon in the large electrical plants is more efficient than extracting the hydrogen.

re: #114 DesertSage

Maxine Waters is what Michelle Obama will be in twenty six years.

re: #98 schultzw

2008 Mayor of the Year nominations are now closed. The finalists are:

Greg Nickels

Kwame Fitzpatrick Kilpatrick

Please cast your ballots by 11:59 ET on Friday, May 23rd.

re: #107 average_guy

That's okay... let's let Dubai buy us out, and let's let the Saudi's change our laws. Nobody'll notice!

Very few seem to notice it happening already...

Well, when you see it unfolding right before your face, you can either kick back and wait..

Or not.

re: #121 unrealizedviewpoint

I've got quite an imagination though.

re: #117 savage_nation

Sidney NE. Right across the street from Cabela's headquarters

See if you can work me a deal on a side by side.

re: #106 unrealizedviewpoint

I hope you're right. But just remember Mccain's vote was the one vote that stopped the anwr drilling in the first place.

re: #115 unrealizedviewpoint

HaHaHaHa
foflmao

I own a planet.

re: #127 realwest

Yup, but even so, I'm still voting for McCain cause he won't nationalize any industry and just might be serious about alternative fuels/energy resources.

But y'all know we have got to get off our asses with nuclear power - cripes France - FRANCE! - gets something like 70% of it's electrical power form Nuclear reactors. AND before anyone lectures me about how few buildings, homes use oil for heating, check out NYC - I'd wager that probably 90% of all apartment buildings in that city of 8 million people use #4 or #6 fuel oil to heat their buildings. Throw in homowners on Long Island (about 3.5 million) who also use fuel oil and we're talking about saving a HELL OF A LOT OF OIL.
Then lets move to the South/Southwest and solar energy - surely that could save us a few million barrels of oil a day too!

I've got no disagreement there.

re: #117 savage_nation

I think I heard that Greeley CO, got hit hard today. You see any crazy Gorean weather?

re: #136 Allah al Fubar

I own a planet.

Uranus?

re: #134 Pdogg

I hope you're right. But just remember Mccain's vote was the one vote that stopped the anwr drilling in the first place.

Really? I'm voting for Obama.

guten abend lizards!

re: #139 jcm

Uranus?

I can't believe I typed that.

re: #139 jcm

Uranus?

I can own uranus.

But, how do you pronounce it?

How about a little tranquility, just to be different?

re: #143 Allah al Fubar

I can own uranus.

But, how do you pronounce it?

(spitting coffee on keyboard)

re: #141 schultzw

guten abend lizards!

Shatatnze

re: #134 Pdogg

I'm not convinved ANWR is worth the trouble. At the rate we use oil, ANWR represents, what, a handful of years worth? We should prepare to pump that oil for a strategic reserve, maybe.

re: #144 slokat

How about a little tranquility, just to be different?

I see the creek....
and no paddle.

re: #148 markie

I'm not convinved ANWR is worth the trouble. At the rate we use oil, ANWR represents, what, a handful of years worth? We should prepare to pump that oil for a strategic reserve, maybe.

If we don't pump it soon it won't be very strategic at all.

re: #114 DesertSage

Maxine Waters is what Michelle Obama will be in twenty years.

Maxine Waters says what Michelle is thinking.

re: #148 markie

I'm not convinved ANWR is worth the trouble. At the rate we use oil, ANWR represents, what, a handful of years worth? We should prepare to pump that oil for a strategic reserve, maybe.

My understanding is there's a gazillion barrels up there.

re: #113 M. Bensson-Levi

Saw where you'd completed a cyclist course. What's yer ride?

Lance Power Sports Vintage 150.

Now, before you bust my balls, it only cost me $1500 and they delivered it from Ontario, CA to my door for free - liftgate included.

Of course, I'm the factory-authorized service department.

re: #143 Allah al Fubar

I can own uranus.

But, how do you pronounce it?

The grade school or grad school pronunciation?

did Ted Kennedy win this in 2005 for his
04/26/2005 celebration of the one year anniversary of the Abu Ghraib misunderstanding ?

re: #139 jcm

Funny joke on "Futurama".

Fry makes a "Uranus" joke. The Professor Farnsworth says, "We got tired of that joke, so we renamed the planet. Fry asks what they named it, the professor says, "Urectum".

re: #127 realwest

Yup, but even so, I'm still voting for McCain cause he won't nationalize any industry and just might be serious about alternative fuels/energy resources.

But y'all know we have got to get off our asses with nuclear power - cripes France - FRANCE! - gets something like 70% of it's electrical power form Nuclear reactors. AND before anyone lectures me about how few buildings, homes use oil for heating, check out NYC - I'd wager that probably 90% of all apartment buildings in that city of 8 million people use #4 or #6 fuel oil to heat their buildings. Throw in homowners on Long Island (about 3.5 million) who also use fuel oil and we're talking about saving a HELL OF A LOT OF OIL.
Then lets move to the South/Southwest and solar energy - surely that could save us a few million barrels of oil a day too!

realwest, that's all fine and good, but you have to realize that the real reason the loons want alternative energy is to make their sorry bureaucratic asses rich. The costs for solar and wind are hugely increased by the hoops you have to jump through to get hooked up to the grid. If you get ANY electricity from a wire from a utility, you have to pay obscene amounts of money for permit and hookup fees, even if you plan not to ever put power on the grid, or use your energy and grid energy at the same time.

Remember, conservation is about making some people rich. It's the single largest impetus for "change".

re: #146 average_guy

Not responsible for keyboard damage or bodily injury, personal or advertising injury or any injury that might result from flippant, religious, comical, racial, or political comments. Please don't stone me.

/on second thought

re: #152 unrealizedviewpoint
My understanding is there's a gazillion barrels up there

How many zeroes in gazillion?

re: #144 slokat

How about a little tranquility, just to be different?

tranquility

re: #159 average_guy

My understanding is there's a gazillion barrels up there

How many zeroes in gazillion?

a bajillion

And how much of a gallon of gas is TAXES Maxinem hmmmm? TAXES that pay for your blinkin' presence as a Government representative. TAXES that are far more than the profit margins the oil companies get.

Well, I didn't find that funny at all.

The Shell exec decided to get in Maxine's face. I don't know what went before, but it was a mistake.

I'm tellin' y'all lizards, the current price of oil is the biggest issue going right now, and there ain't no way of telling what it's leading to, but some kind of madness is likely enough.

re: #159 average_guy

My understanding is there's a gazillion barrels up there

How many zeroes in gazillion?

All of them.

re: #145 savage_nation

Crazy! I'd love to see one. But from 5 miles away, thank you very much.

re: #104 Noam Sayin'
Did and replied my friend! I just cracked up over that helmet shot! LOL!

re: #144 slokat

How about a little tranquility, just to be different?

If there's oil there, start drilling through this tranquility.

re: #149 jcm

...not quite deep enough to paddle, more like feet wet wading. LOL

re: #145 savage_nation

I was watching that huge thunderhead from Commerce City, couple guys I work with were constantly calling to check up on friends and family.

re: #156 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm only too sorry to admit I could hear that scene play out in my head as I read that.

re: #12 savage_nation

Hey {Savage}! Hope you are doing well.

re: #150 average_guy

If we don't pump it soon it won't be very strategic at all.

About three years. But the transportation infrastructure is already largely in place, making it much more cost-efficient than most other options.

re: #148 markie
You are probably right. But i think it's worth exploring to see if there is some huge hidden reserve. In any case we still have about 1 trillion barrels of oil stuck in shale and that needs looking into.

re: #150 average_guy

Well, I was just thinking we shouldn't just burn it all up to continue business as usual. There are a lot of things we make from oil that are difficult or impossible to do in other ways.

And to think when the car was first invented, they chose gasoline as fuel because it was mostly an unused fraction....

re: #159 average_guy

A buttload.

re: #154 jcm

The grade school or grad school pronunciation?

Well, back in the 70's they would say "your anus".. Nobody thought much about your anus back then.

SUDDENLY!

When NBC discovered Uranus and decide to report on it, it became, "Urunus", or Your Un Us.

Membah when?

re: #116 Syrah "It could also make dollar trading of Oil change "presto" into Euro trading of Oil."
I give it less than a month before that actually happens.

re: #152 unrealizedviewpoint

I've been reading that it is a lot less than the North Slope we've almost pumped out.

What would happen to one of these guys if he stood up and railed on these congress-criters? I mean tell them we are where we are because we find the stupidest people in America not in mental institutions or practicing law somewhere and make them congress creatures? Who have mucked up energy policy for 30 years plus and so now we are screwed for the foreseeable future...can they throw him in jail?

re: #148 markie

I'm not convinved ANWR is worth the trouble. At the rate we use oil, ANWR represents, what, a handful of years worth? We should prepare to pump that oil for a strategic reserve, maybe.

USGS.

The total quantity of technically recoverable oil within the entire assessment area is estimated to be between 5.7 and 16.0 billion barrels (95-percent and 5-percent probability range), with a mean value of 10.4 billion barrels. Technically recoverable oil within the ANWR 1002 area (excluding State and Native areas) is estimated to be between 4.3 and 11.8 billion barrels (95- and 5-percent probability range), with a mean value of 7.7 billion barrels (table 1).

re: #166 realwest

I just cracked up over that helmet shot! LOL!

I have a 3/4 helmet that I got free with the scoot, but it wasn't dorky enough.

Goggles and a half-helmet... The babes are crawling all over me. ;)

re: #178 markie

I've been reading that it is a lot less than the North Slope we've almost pumped out.

Well then I guess we need start rationing.

re: #180 jcm

Sold!

I'm typing this simply to create a comment that I can use to experiment with the new exclamation mark button. Stinky, when you see this comment reported, just ignore it! I'm just trying out the new feature.

re: #176 Allah al Fubar

Well, back in the 70's they would say "your anus".. Nobody thought much about your anus back then.

SUDDENLY!

When NBC discovered Uranus and decide to report on it, it became, "Urunus", or Your Un Us.

Membah when?

And chewing gum in class was the big issue......

re: #137 average_guy
But no upding, either hey! LOL!

re: #184 zombie

I'm typing this simply to create a comment that I can use to experiment with the new exclamation mark button. Stinky, when you see this comment reported, just ignore it! I'm just trying out the new feature.

Every one report zombie!
/

re: #177 realwest

"It could also make dollar trading of Oil change "presto" into Euro trading of Oil."
I give it less than a month before that actually happens.

We will have to batten down the hatches for the wailing and gnashing of teeth that will result from that.

I have been having a lot of fun scaring the hell out of the kids at work, telling them about what life was like during the last oil embargo, and what they can expect in a world of $10+ Gasoline.

re: #180 jcm

That's exactly what I said to my dog, not ten minutes ago. GMTA!

/

re: #153 Noam Sayin'

Obviously for short range, urban use. Be careful. The center of gravity is a bit high on those type vehicles. Have fun, and enjoy...and hey, would I bust ya chops?... any one's chop?...very much?

Wow, that is slick!

Worked like a charm.

Fantastic new feature, Charles.

re: #180 jcm

between 5.7 and 16.0 billion barrels

Heard a stat today that said we use 10 million barrels per day, IIRC. That would mean we could use ANWR exclusively for 1.56 - 4.38 years.

re: #144 slokat IS THERE OIL UNDER THOSE ROCKS?! Cause if so I want it ALL and I want it NOW!

Charles is probably about to tear out his hair tonight. I'll be the "cluebat" has gotten a huge workout tonight.

re: #185 jcm

Yes, I got busted for that. I actually said the word, Uranus. Didnt get suspended until I stole my mother's Mustang.

/Lost a penny or two in my loafers as well.

"That Maxine Waters sure ain't got no Ethel" according to my Man the Reverend Al. He was not impressed by how many miles per gallon Maxine was getting by running full speed on stupid either. "The bitch should just shut up and ride a bicycle for the TV cameras" said Al. "She might look ridiculous, but ridiculous beats stupid every time". As usual, I told Al that he sure knew what he was talkin' about 'specially the part about ridiculous bein' better than stupid.

re: #179 Kepler Sings

What would happen to one of these guys if he stood up and railed on these congress-criters? I mean tell them we are where we are because we find the stupidest people in America not in mental institutions or practicing law somewhere and make them congress creatures? Who have mucked up energy policy for 30 years plus and so now we are screwed for the foreseeable future...can they throw him in jail?

Neal Boortz said this this morning:

WHY DON'T THESE GUYS FIGHT BACK?
It was nothing less than a show trial. The Senate brought the leaders of the largest oil companies to Washington DC for a little grandstanding yesterday. Right there in the middle of all of this was Illinois Senator Dick Durbin.

I'm sorry, but this has to be said. Dick Durbin is either a shameless demagogue or a complete dumbass. I'm going with dumbass. This fool couldn't tell you the difference between a profit and a profit margin if his reelection depended on it. He sat up there on his fat ass and said to these oil company executives "Does it trouble any of you when you see what you're doing to us?" So ... there you go. These high gas prices? This is all being done to us by the evil oil companies. They're doing it to us with their huge profits.

We have increasing demands worldwide ... and a diminishing supply of oil ... and Durbin wants the uneducated people of this country to believe that these high gas prices are something that the oil company executives are "doing to us."

Why can't these guys defend themselves? Why can't just one of them say: "Tell us, Senator, do you honestly believe that this government; the government that gave us Social Security and pork spending, could run these oil companies any better than we do? The American people instinctively know that if this was a government operation they would be waiting for days just to be able to put ten gallons of gas in their tank. Frankly, Senator, you don't know the difference between an profit and a profit margin, and you would be hard pressed to make a successful attempt at running a corner gas station."

Yeah .. I know. In my dreams.

[Link: boortz.com...]

re: #138 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I think I heard that Greeley CO, got hit hard today. You see any crazy Gorean weather?

Phoenix area's had a very strange weather week. Driving home Tuesday evening, my car's temp display read 108°. Driving home today: 52° in pouring rain. It's been raining for about 12 hours now. That just doesn't happen in Phoenix in May. I blame Algore.

re: #157 really grumpy big dog Johnson Hey really - I do understand that and I DON'T CARE if it makes the United States ENERGY INDEPENDENT.
THen we'll tax their asses off! LOL!

re: #181 Noam Sayin'

Thanks for the pics Noam, now I'm gonna have nightmares.

Noam - The Roadrunner

re: #180 jcm

The USGS came out with their techically recoverable oil assessment of that big field in the Dakotas a few weeks ago. Some seriously delusional people were claiming between 150-500 billion barrels of oil.

The assessment: 2.6-4.5 billion.

Close, just off by a couple of decimal places, that's all.

re: #187 jcm

Damn, I hit recommend.

re: #190 M. Bensson-Levi

Actually, the center of gravity is quite low on this scoot. The engine sits right on the frame ahead of the back wheel. Virtually everything else above it is plastic.

I nailed a sweet, tight, right-hand turn on it last night. Felt so good I thought about going back and doing it again.

re: #193 bosforus

Heard a stat today that said we use 10 million barrels per day, IIRC. That would mean we could use ANWR exclusively for 1.56 - 4.38 years.

yes but consider it as let's say 12% of our oil
about the amount we get from the middle east despots/democrat party compatriots

that would then last many times longer
and during that time
we tell the house of Saud to f*ck off

while we find an alternative to CHANGE to

/pun intended on the word "change"

re: #181 Noam Sayin' Aw hell Noam, the babes was crawling all over you before you got that scooter - must be the helmet!
LOL!

Weet dreams Lizard Nation! Watch Uranus tonight!

re: #195 realwest

LOL! Spoken like a true al-------

...nevermind!

;)

re: #195 realwest

Oil is about two canyons south, in shale, that they have been steam injecting and pumping out for the last 40 years... plus just west offshore, but protected & NIMBY'ed into the foreseeable future.

re: #193 bosforus

Heard a stat today that said we use 10 million barrels per day, IIRC. That would mean we could use ANWR exclusively for 1.56 - 4.38 years.

It would last a lot longer if we just started rationing.

She is a communist. But what amazes me is the people who vote for these morons... How could any person with any brain cell vote for likes of her and Hussein Obama and Sen. Dodd...

It's amazing..........

re: #184 zombie Hi zombie - why didn't you just use it and then press "Cancel"?
BTW - I am still willing to work for you as per our conversation last night!

Alaramist mode off

We went through this crap in 1973 during Vietnam and again in 1978 with the Oil Embargo when Dhimmi Carter was in place.

Can we not be smarter than we were back then?

I think we can, I know we can. The question is:

"Who is going to FINALLY stand up to these Neanderthals that are drunk with oil and power and hell bent on Israel's destruction"?

That's the question. Who will save us?

The answer will either obliterate or deliver us.

Night all,

PS. scroll down for the answer

We will save ourselves.

Can we nationalize Maxine Waters brain and then the next country we invade we will make her run the provisional government.

All those countries currently agitating against us already do that socialism crap.

Who needs oil? We ride the bus!

The short bus...

re: #194 savage_nation

I'm doing fairly well. Sleeping better and all. Hope you are safe on the roads.
/and hope your personal life has calmed down. :)

re: #191 savage_nation

It was sunny and clear from my vantage point at the time. The thunderhead seem taller than it was wide, it was huge! The whole weather system missed me, hit the mountains, and push North West.

re: #188 Syrah "I have been having a lot of fun scaring the hell out of the kids at work, telling them about what life was like during the last oil embargo" - ya know, you have a very mean streak in you - FUNNY but mean, I like that in a person!

re: #193 bosforus

Heard a stat today that said we use 10 million barrels per day, IIRC. That would mean we could use ANWR exclusively for 1.56 - 4.38 years.

Between ANWR, Bakken in ND, the Gulf coast and the CA coast we've got enough to hold for a while. We use that to give us time to make the sand and shale efficent. The North American Oil and Sand and Shales have 8 Trillion barrels, yes TRILLION.

That will give us enough time to bring up electric generation by nuclear and clean coal. And to get away from oil as a primary transportation fuel.

There is no reason to even get excited let alone panic. We just need the leadership to DO IT!

re: #206 Adrenalyn

I hear ya. I presented that stat just for the sake of showing it. I think the arguments in favor of drilling in ANWR and the Gulf of Mexico will eventually drown out the environazis. Better sooner than later too.

re: #205 Noam Sayin'

Good. A friend of mine had a Vespa, 3/4 of a lifetime ago, and it felt top heavy, and a bit unstable. But, like I said, that was 3/4 of a lifetime ago. All things evolve...except islam, of course.

Again, enjoy!

re: #216 totally berserk

Who needs oil? We ride the bus!

The short bus...

Do you also lick the window?

re: #201 realwest

Hey really - I do understand that and I DON'T CARE if it makes the United States ENERGY INDEPENDENT.
THen we'll tax their asses off! LOL!

You are taking it all wrong. I want all of our natural recoverable energy resources tapped to the max while we go on a crash program to develop economical and socially responsible substitutes. There are some really valid technology paths out there.

re: #196 Fat Bastard Vegetarian On this thread?! Maybe I haven't read too far yet or not closely enough yet. If you mean the prior thread then yeah, you may be right.

re: #214 Allah al Fubar

Can we not be smarter than we were back then?

Well we have quite a few smart individuals in this country but Maxine skews the whole smart thing into the toilet...

...that is if you are thinking about the "collective" "we".

G-Nite all.
I'm gonna be dreaming up a new gas rationing plan for us all. I didn't like "Carter's Odd & Even Day Plan" much.

re: #219 realwest

"I have been having a lot of fun scaring the hell out of the kids at work, telling them about what life was like during the last oil embargo" - ya know, you have a very mean streak in you - FUNNY but mean, I like that in a person!

It occurred to me today that we have a very large part of our population that has never really experienced bad times. I am little worried that they are too narcissistic to be able to weather it without riots and other such stupid shenanigans.

When I started to mow lawns, regular was 27 cents a gallon - a quarter almost filled my gas can. I filled my first car to go on dates @ 37 cents a gallon.

Not complaining, just sayin'

I don't see anyone resorting to actual rationing.

I do see the price being allowed to rise until everyone cries uncle.

Time to dust off the motorcycle.

re: #227 unclassifiable

Well we have quite a few smart individuals in this country but Maxine skews the whole smart thing into the toilet...

...that is if you are thinking about the "collective" "we".

AS IF....

Why treat this imbicile as a respectable member of society when we in fact pay her salary?

There is a little thing that our Great forefathers built in to our constitution (Federal) and also State follows.. IMPEACH.

You have the power to impeach her. Do it.

re: #208 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Weet dreams Lizard Nation! Watch Uranus tonight!

There's only one "e", you illiterate!

re: #28 mattm

Yes Comrade Walters, I will do whatever you say!
/moonbat liberal socialist off

They really do want to destroy the US and turn it into a Dictatorship. Once you do oil, what will stop them from taking guns, private property, other business, etc.

guns in the hands of a bitter, angry people?

(commonly known as "Americans")

re: #231 slokat

When I started to mow lawns, regular was 27 cents a gallon - a quarter almost filled my gas can. I filled my first car to go on dates @ 37 cents a gallon.

Not complaining, just sayin'

I was thinking about a similar story today. When my mom would send me out to fill up her tank she'd give me a twenty and I'd use the change to buy us sodas.

re: #202 DesertSage Hey Sage! ROTFLMAO - "Noam the roadrunner" LOL!
Still and all, he'll wind up with more "disposable income than you and me put together!

Good night, everyone.

re: #221 bosforus

I hear ya. I presented that stat just for the sake of showing it. I think the arguments in favor of drilling in ANWR and the Gulf of Mexico will eventually drown out the environazis. Better sooner than later too.

let's hope so
but you know, Americans are generally too pussified to speak the truth
especially the oil exec's to Congress folk

I'd have no problem telling them that THEY are the problem
and not the oil company/companies

where is the backbone in this country any more ?
you can take a stance and still be polite
and even if one has to be impolite
perhaps it is called for, as the only response

re: #228 savage_nation

I am so glad to hear that! :)
May it continue to get better than even normal!

Wow, just watched the video of Maxine Waters.

Not only is she a flat-out communist, self-admitted, but she's such an idiot she doesn't even know the word to describe her communistic intent.

I've never seen such hubris in a politician. And such stupidity.

re: #235 savage_nation

...so to speak...

OT:

I know LGF had a thread about this attack, but check out the biased coverage: Phakestinians attack Israel: Phakestinians the victims.

Ok i'm off to bed now. Discuss amongst yourselves.

re: #229 unrealizedviewpoint

If you have your gas cap on the right side of your car, then you can only use gas stations on the side side of the road...

re: #231 slokat

When I started to mow lawns, regular was 27 cents a gallon - a quarter almost filled my gas can. I filled my first car to go on dates @ 37 cents a gallon.

Not complaining, just sayin'

Inflation adjusted and nominal gas prices, 1918-2008.

I remember the Carter years and the embargo. I was just out of high school, and a friend of mine worked at a gas station. It was chaos trying to enforce the even-odd rules. One day my friend told a guy to get out of line since his plates were for the wrong day. The driver shot him. My friend spent the rest of his life paralyzed from the neck down. He just passed away a couple years ago. Yeah, I remember it well. None of it was good.

Weet dreams veggie Man!

re: #232 markie

I've got a killer spreadsheet weighing my cost options between taking the bus and driving.

re: #230 Syrah

You are right....many don't know what hards times are...

re: #229 unrealizedviewpoint

G-Nite all.
I'm gonna be dreaming up a new gas rationing plan for us all. I didn't like "Carter's Odd & Even Day Plan" much.

I did not like Carter's separate black and white bathrooms in school either
or the prayer every day in Home Room
the shanty towns blacks lived in under his reign still shock me too
the poverty that the democrats inflicted upon them......and on and on....

They are screaming about the "obscene" profits the heads of the oil company's are making.......... Someone should add up the REAL TIME that the congress spends on their jobs.....divide into their (self regulated) salary's....... and see just how "OBSCENE" their hourly rate is, not to mention the actual days they work out of the 365 in our calendar year.
Congress is not part of the solution...... it is a major part of the problem!
Waters..........an embarrassment to us all !

re: #222 M. Bensson-Levi

That's understandable. Vespas are made a whole lot better than the scoot I bought. On an old one, probably a fair amount of sheet metal for the body than what they make today.

That Vespa still wouldn't be around, would it?

re: #245 pdogg

*right side.. I messed up a bad joke.

re: #235 savage_nation

I think its a running gag

'Eh guy. Yeah, I'm just goofin'. :-)

You a granpa yet?

re: #233 Allah al Fubar

You my friend have forgotten the unwritten law.

It is not against the law to be stupid.

Doing stupid things -- yes of course.

But being plain flat 24x7 useless stupid.

Nope -- no laws broken there.

I'd like to see some Senate hearings on why a university education costs six figures.

re: #255 pdogg

*right side.. I messed up a bad joke.

We figured it out. WAZ very funny! Nite.

re: #217 Suzette Hi Suzette - glad to hear you're sleeping better and all!
How are other things going for you?!

re: #254 Noam Sayin'

That's understandable. Vespas are made a whole lot better than the scoot I bought. On an old one, probably a fair amount of sheet metal for the body than what they make today.

That Vespa still wouldn't be around, would it?

not only are Vespa's still around
they make a freeway legal version now

re: #254 Noam Sayin'

My friend ain't even around anymore!

re: #173 Pdogg

In any case we still have about 1 trillion barrels of oil stuck in shale and that needs looking into.

It's.
Not.
Oil.

Golly gee folks... this has been covered a hundred times or more... do a search on the subject. Also, do a search on "Synfuel Corporation" and see what you get.

Over the years chemists and chemical engineers and petroleum engineers have figured out many methods for playing with and converting long chain of carbon atoms into slightly different long chains of carbon atoms.

Put simply, the rock (in NW Colorado and elsewhere) is laden with organic matter, or what was originally living things, which now is become what is called kerogen.

Using this rock as a source material to produce liquids for our consumption has many issues... which are discussed ad naseum on the net. One of which is that it takes considerable energy to be put into a process before you get anything out... and that itself is something to consider.

There are good reasons why (to date), after many decades of discussion and research, the kerogen laden rock in NW Colorado is not used.

Maxine needs to get her own sitcom.

re: #227 unclassifiable

  re: #214 Allah al Fubar

    Can we not be smarter than we were back then?

Well we have quite a few smart individuals in this country but Maxine skews the whole smart thing into the toilet...

...that is if you are thinking about the "collective" "we".

Well, first of all, judging by the antics of both houses of the current Congress, it would be an uphill trek to get to AS smart as we were back then.

re: #240 Adrenalyn

where is the backbone in this country any more ?
you can take a stance and still be polite
and even if one has to be impolite
perhaps it is called for, as the only response

By the time someone is able to be in the position (oil execs in front of congress) to show they have a backbone and have a fraction of a chance of it making a difference they're already too much of a public figure to be able to do it without being demonized. But that's when it's needed most.

re: #10 schultzw

to be fair, the futures market is really screwing things up right now. but no, socializing the fuel industry won't solve anything.

It would guarantee us a continued shortage of affordable fuels for at least a century. Americans would get more exercise and therefore live longer from having to bike to work six days a week, and to worker education the other day.
Some day your grandkids will call you crazy for telling them you remember when gas was $1.59 a gallon.

re: #253 dewie

They are screaming about the "obscene" profits the heads of the oil company's are making.......... Someone should add up the REAL TIME that the congress spends on their jobs.....divide into their (self regulated) salary's....... and see just how "OBSCENE" their hourly rate is, not to mention the actual days they work out of the 365 in our calendar year.
Congress is not part of the solution...... it is a major part of the problem!
Waters..........an embarrassment to us all !

Federal Gas tax. 18.4 cpg.
Oil company profits 8.0 cpg.

Waters is a tool.

re: #255 pdogg

*right side.. I messed up a bad joke.

On the contrary, you messed up a very good joke! :)

re: #221 bosforus

I think the arguments in favor of drilling in ANWR and the Gulf of Mexico will eventually drown out the environazis. Better sooner than later too.

What makes you believe that the GoM is not being drilled now?

re: #261 realwest

Hey {realwest}!
My life is getting better. They changed my meds and they seem to be working. Starting to become normal here and there! :)
And you? Hope you are feeling all right.