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Sat, May 24, 2008 at 2:56:21 am PDT

People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history. — Dan Quayle

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1 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 24, 2008 2:59:47am

Wake up people! I'm making eggs and pancakes! And a drink!

2 Fenway_Nation  Sat, May 24, 2008 3:04:28am

I put everyone to sleep on the previous thread....

3 kwrxxx  Sat, May 24, 2008 3:08:16am

Icon of Evil: Hitler's Mufti & the rise of Radical Islam New book due out by June 24th, 2008 at amazon.com.

4 galloping granny  Sat, May 24, 2008 3:09:14am

Boy oh boy, they are laying it on Hillary aren't they?

5 Crepuscular Prick  Sat, May 24, 2008 3:14:32am

HOPE, CHANGE, WIERDNESS

6 kwrxxx  Sat, May 24, 2008 3:15:16am

re: #3 kwrxxx

Icon of Evil: Hitler's Mufti & the rise of Radical Islam New book due out by June 24th, 2008 at amazon.com.

Product Description
A chilling, fascinating, and nearly forgotten historical figure is resurrected in a riveting work that links the fascism of the last century with the terrorism of our own. Written with verve and extraordinary access to primary sources in several languages, Icon of Evil is the definitive account of the man who during World War II was called “the führer of the Arab world” and whose ugly legacy lives on today.

In 1921, the beneficiary of an appointment the British would live to regret, Haj Amin al-Husseini became the mufti of Jerusalem, the most eminent and influential Islamic leader in the Middle East. For years, al-Husseini fomented violence in the region against the Jews he loathed and wished to destroy. Forced out in 1937, he eventually found his way to the country whose legions he desperately wished to join: Nazi Germany.

Here, with new and disturbing details, David G. Dalin and John F. Rothmann show how al-Husseini ingratiated himself with his hero, Adolf Hitler, becoming, with his blonde hair and blue eyes, an “honorary Aryan,” while dreaming of being installed Nazi leader of the Middle East. Al-Husseini would later recruit more than 100,000 Muslims in Europe to fight in divisions of the Waffen-SS, and obstruct negotiations with the Allies that might have allowed four thousand Jewish children to escape to Palestine. Some believe that al-Husseini even inspired Hitler to implement the Final Solution. At war’s end, al-Husseini escaped indictment at Nuremberg and was harbored in France before being given a hero’s welcome in Egypt.

Icon of Evil chronicles al-Husseini’s postwar relationships with such influential Islamic figures as the radical theoretician Sayyid Qutb and Saddam Hussein’s powerful uncle, General Khairallah Talfah, and his crucial mentoring of the young Yasser Arafat. Finally, it provides compelling evidence that al-Husseini’s actions and writings serve as inspirations today to the leaders of Hamas, Hezbollah, and other terrorist organizations pledged to destroy Israel and the United States.
Revelatory and unsettling, Icon of Evil reveals an essential character in the worst crimes of the modern era. It is an important addition to our understanding of the past, present, and future of radical Islam.

About the Author
David G. Dalin is the Taube Research Fellow in American History at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University. He is the author, co-author, or editor of nine books, including Religion and State in the American Jewish Experience (with Jonathan D. Sarna), The Presidents of the United States and the Jews, and The Myth of Hitler’s Pope. His numerous articles and book reviews have appeared in American Jewish History, Commentary, First Things, The Weekly Standard, and the American Jewish Year Book.

John F. Rothmann serves on the faculty of the Fromm Institute at the University of San Francisco. He is an author, teacher, archivist, political consultant, and talk show host on the ABC-affiliated KGO 810-AM Newstalk Radio in San Francisco. He has lectured on American politics and the presidency and the Middle East throughout the United States, Canada, and Israel.

7 Crepuscular Prick  Sat, May 24, 2008 3:15:35am

Doh!

Weirdness.

8 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 24, 2008 3:16:22am

Hillary is an idiot. Obama is a Socialist, and McCain is a Democrat. No horse here. Move along...

9 galloping granny  Sat, May 24, 2008 3:22:21am

re: #8 Cannadian Club Akbar

Hillary is an idiot. Obama is a Socialist, and McCain is a Democrat. No horse here. Move along...

Hillary is a socialist, Obama is a Communist and a strawman, and McCain has at least served this nation with honor since he was 17 years old. Our nation is in the gravest danger it has been in in my lifetime. Send him $199 and pull the lever.

10 wahabicorridor  Sat, May 24, 2008 3:26:47am

re: #9 galloping granny

Obama is a Communist and a strawman

Obama is the Manchurian Candidate.

11 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 24, 2008 3:27:43am

#9
McCain will get my vote. But we have 300 million people here and these 3 are the best we can come up with?

12 galloping granny  Sat, May 24, 2008 3:28:22am

re: #10 wahabicorridor

Obama is the Manchurian Candidate.

Exactly - and then some. Complete with a voting record rigged to hide his views about anything.

13 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, May 24, 2008 3:32:47am

Hey Obama, my thermostat is at 76, screw you.

14 AndyMacOP  Sat, May 24, 2008 3:49:29am

re: #1 Cannadian Club Akbar

Don't forget the bacon!

15 AndyMacOP  Sat, May 24, 2008 3:55:35am

re: #6 kwrxxx

I will be getting my copy!

You mean to tell me someone is more evil than Pope Pius XII at the time of the Holocaust. Can it be?

/sarc -off

16 godfrey  Sat, May 24, 2008 3:57:26am

Hillary calls for Obama to concede

Frankly, there's just no way around the stark mathematics of the situation: Inconvenience(Me) = 1.0 * Accident(You). It is an inescapable statistical fact, as proven over and over again by my loyal team of Karma accountants -- including Sid Blumenthal, Howard Wolfson, and Harold Ickes.

lol

17 godfrey  Sat, May 24, 2008 3:58:32am
Though he may be young and inexperienced, I am confident Senator Obama will choose wisely. But to sweeten the pot, I am also prepared to guarantee him a post as Secretary of HUD in my administration, plus a two-year moratorium on plane crashes involving his senior campaign staff and immediate family.

Iowarocks.

18 godfrey  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:02:00am

Finally an admission of fact from the IPCC:

Rajendra Pachauri, head of the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, reluctantly admitted that there has been no global warming so far in the 21st century. .... There will be no more warming until 2015, perhaps later.
19 godfrey  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:06:43am

And finally, on a Saturday morning, I highly recommend browsing MAKE Magazine.

20 The Other Les  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:06:55am

So anyway I just got up.

What did I miss?

21 godfrey  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:08:26am

Morning, TOL. I'm about to head out, myself. Your room.

22 LeftJustAintRight  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:13:50am

re: #20 The Other Les

So anyway I just got up.

What did I miss?

My Arab joke got deleted
Hillary got caught thinking outloud
Obama is going to get the Victim Sympathy Vote
We are screwed for at least 4.5 years if not more
Thats all happy saturday

23 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:15:16am

I am having fun watchin' Congresswoman Richardson spin about her forclosed house. Is that wrong?

She wants to use her forclosure experience to help craft a bail-out bill. Howabout the "pay your freaking mortgage and you won't have a forclosure".

She says, "I had four job changes in 4 months!"

How much does a congressperson make?

24 The Other Les  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:19:41am

re: #21 godfrey

Morning, TOL. I'm about to head out, myself. Your room.

Okay.

The fun fact for today is that out of the ten Republican Presidential candidates since the end of the Second World War, four of them were military aviators.

25 The Other Les  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:23:53am

re: #23 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

From 1789 to 1815, members of Congress received only a per diem (daily payment) of $6 while in session. Members began receiving an annual salary in 1815, when they were paid $1,500 per year.[28][29] As of 2006 rank and file Members of Congress received a yearly salary of $165,200.[29] Congressional leaders are paid $183,500 per year. The Speaker of the House of Representatives earns $212,100 per annum. The salary of the President pro tempore for 2006 is $183,500, equal to that of the Majority Leader and Minority Leader of both Houses of Congress.[30]

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

26 Geepers  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:26:35am

Fat Bastard Vegetarian (#23),

How much does a congressperson make?

Don't matter how much you make if it's less than your mortgage.

27 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:29:30am

re: #26 Geepers

Good point.

I have been diligent in making sure that my income was substantially higher than my mortgage payment. Even with job losses I have never had a forclosure. I expect for members of congress to be more responsible and resourseful than I.

28 The Other Les  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:31:27am

re: #27 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That congresswoman just doesn't have the right kind of refrigerator.

29 Geepers  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:31:29am

Fat Bastard Vegetarian (#27),

Always live within your means, even if you have to borrow to do so.

30 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:31:54am

re: #27 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

And wealthier. Never been interested in "common folk" members of congress, presidents, judges, etc. I want rich, resourseful, smart and capable people in places of responsibility.

Yeah, let's hire a guy who can't manage to pay off his student loan.

31 Geepers  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:36:40am

Fat Bastard Vegetarian (#30),

Elitist.

32 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:36:57am

re: #30 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

But, they don't (except for judges) have to be lawyers either. Just rich and smart.

33 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:37:14am

re: #31 Geepers

Damn straight!

34 Masslibertarian  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:38:01am

#30 good point.

To hell with making these people release their tax returns. I'd rather see their FICO scores.

Mornin' lizards.

35 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:38:02am

Hey Geepers. Just you and me, huh. So, how's it?

36 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:38:20am

re: #34 Masslibertarian

Heh!

37 lawhawk  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:38:57am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. I see that Syria has rejected Israel's basic conditions before moving on to substantive discussion relating to the normalization of relations and return of the Golan - namely cutting ties to Hamas, Hizbullah, and Iran.

Funny, but you could see this coming from a mile away, and yet the media was all giddy over this. Now watch for the media to complain about Israel's demands getting in the way of a deal.

38 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:39:11am

re: #28 The Other Les

That congresswoman just doesn't have the right kind of refrigerator.

You mean the kind that holds $100,000.00 bundles in the freezer?

39 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:40:11am

Good morning, Lizards.

40 The Other Les  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:40:35am

re: #38 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yes.

41 Geepers  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:41:31am

Fat Bastard Vegetarian (#35),

A great day here in central Ohio.

Where you at?

42 Dustyvet  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:44:25am

re: #25 The Other Les

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Yup, we have the finest congress that money can buy....

43 LeftJustAintRight  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:45:17am

It is time for another tea party

44 Geepers  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:47:05am

LeftJustAintRight (#43),

Socialite.

45 Gang of One  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:47:19am

FBV,

Why don't you run for Congress?

46 LeftJustAintRight  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:47:45am

We need to scrap the government we have and start over from scratch

47 Gang of One  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:48:06am

re: #46 LeftJustAintRight

Do we have enough guns?

48 LeftJustAintRight  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:48:30am

re: #44 Geepers

LeftJustAintRight (#43),

Socialite.

I was referring to a Boston Tea Party

49 Dustyvet  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:48:47am

re: #45 Gang of One

What and get out of show business!

50 Gang of One  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:50:24am

Honest question:

Are there any truly altruistic people seeking public office, or is every one of them a narcissist to some degree?

51 Geepers  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:50:34am

LeftJustAintRight (#48),

Down with King George!

52 LeftJustAintRight  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:52:53am

re: #47 Gang of One

Do we have enough guns?

We don't need no stinking guns
We have the power of voting
If all the states recalled all the representatives and held special elections we could take absolute power away from all the professional lifetime politicians

53 LeftJustAintRight  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:53:46am

I know it is a pipe dream but...

54 eon  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:55:59am

re: #39 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Goddess. And all other Lizards.

I gather Hillary had a moment of "clarity", ala' Henry VIII, yesterday?


"Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest senator?"

cheers

eon

55 LeftJustAintRight  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:57:20am

re: #54 eon

I gather Hillary had a moment of "clarity", ala' Henry VIII, yesterday?


I call it thinking out loud
It only happens to me after the third Drink

56 The Other Les  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:58:05am

re: #54 eon

That's Henry II.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

57 Dustyvet  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:58:29am

re: #54 eon

Good morning, Goddess. And all other Lizards.

I gather Hillary had a moment of "clarity", ala' Henry VIII, yesterday?


cheers

eon

Wrong King, that was Henry II about Thomas Becket.

58 eon  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:58:32am

re: #55 LeftJustAintRight

I never think out loud. I don't look good in a straitjacket. :-)

cheers

eon

59 eon  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:59:40am

re: #57 Dustyvet

Drat, you're right. I knew it was Becket. Wrong Henry.

Too early, not enough coffee.

cheers

eon

60 Gang of One  Sat, May 24, 2008 4:59:56am

re: #52 LeftJustAintRight

Half the voters in this country put these poltroons in office. I'd suggest starting with the real enemies of critical thinking and liberty: academia, media and pop culture.

61 infidelia  Sat, May 24, 2008 5:01:38am

re: #59 eon

Drat, you're right. I knew it was Becket. Wrong Henry.

Too early, not enough coffee.

cheers

eon

Yeah, with Henry VIII it would be "wife" instead of "priest".

Morning all.

62 LeftJustAintRight  Sat, May 24, 2008 5:03:05am

re: #60 Gang of One

Half the voters in this country put these poltroons in office. I'd suggest starting with the real enemies of critical thinking and liberty: academia, media and pop culture.


You are right
Like I said
Only a dream
I think it may be too late for America
We should win the Lottery and go start our own country

63 eon  Sat, May 24, 2008 5:03:44am

re: #61 infidelia

Yeah, with Henry VIII it would be "wife" instead of "priest".

Morning all.

Morning, infidelia. So true.

cheers

eon

64 Gang of One  Sat, May 24, 2008 5:04:52am

re: #62 LeftJustAintRight

Hmmmmm. Maybe we could buy Mexico?

65 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, May 24, 2008 5:06:08am

re: #54 eon

Good morning, Goddess. And all other Lizards.

I gather Hillary had a moment of "clarity", ala' Henry VIII, yesterday?


cheers

eon

With respect, it was Henry II.

But Obama ain't no Tom Becket...

66 tokyobk  Sat, May 24, 2008 5:06:25am
Her lame explanation that she brought up the 1968 assassination of Robert Kennedy because his brother Ted's illness was on her mind doesn't cut it. Not even close.

Actually, it indicates a severe narcissism. At the very least a borderline personality disorder wherein her imagined superior compassion allows her to violate basic rules.

67 infidelia  Sat, May 24, 2008 5:06:38am

re: #64 Gang of One

Hmmmmm. Maybe we could buy Mexico?

Yeah, but if we did where would we keep it? The garage is full of junk already.

68 LeftJustAintRight  Sat, May 24, 2008 5:07:04am

re: #64 Gang of One

Hmmmmm. Maybe we could buy Mexico?


I bet we could get a good deal on it
We could buy the United States
With all the crooked Law Makers
Everyone has their price
And the Dems are cheap Whores
LOL

69 wahabicorridor  Sat, May 24, 2008 5:08:34am

EU Referendum has been hacked

By Muslim 'defenders'.

Apologies for being down - we've been hacked by a Muslim fundmentalist group. This is the second time this has happened recently and this time it looks like they may have done some damage to the database. Our gifted technical staff are on to it.

UPDATE: The server php handler is down - the gismo that links our forum to the site, which could means that they penetrated the host server. We have to wait for the host to do the fix.

70 tokyobk  Sat, May 24, 2008 5:09:25am

As for starting new societies based on fair and free market principles:

71 Dustyvet  Sat, May 24, 2008 5:10:35am

Exeter Blast: Police Quiz Second Suspect


[Link: news.sky.com...]

72 Gang of One  Sat, May 24, 2008 5:12:07am

re: #68 LeftJustAintRight

It's not like the Mexican government has never sold to the highest bidder, anyways, right?

73 The Other Les  Sat, May 24, 2008 5:12:18am

re: #70 tokyobk

As for starting new societies based on fair and free market principles:

Old idea.

[Link: www.oceania.org...]

74 LeftJustAintRight  Sat, May 24, 2008 5:12:18am

George Soros already made a down payment on the US
He can still be out bid tho

75 LeftJustAintRight  Sat, May 24, 2008 5:13:51am

re: #72 Gang of One

It's not like the Mexican government has never sold to the highest bidder, anyways, right?


LOL

76 Gang of One  Sat, May 24, 2008 5:15:00am

re: #74 LeftJustAintRight

I'm thinking that maybe we should get Carlos Slim and the other Mexican oligarchs to buy the U.S. They already have 20 percent of their population here ...

77 tokyobk  Sat, May 24, 2008 5:17:07am

re: #73 The Other Les

Old idea.

[Link: www.oceania.org...]

I somehow think this crop of dreamers have the will and the cash to at least get a prototype into the Bay.

78 The Other Les  Sat, May 24, 2008 5:20:15am

re: #77 tokyobk

I somehow think this crop of dreamers have the will and the cash to at least get a prototype into the Bay.

Back when the Atlantis Project was being promoted I was thinking, "Janet Reno and an Iowa Class Battleship."

79 LeftJustAintRight  Sat, May 24, 2008 5:22:07am

re: #76 Gang of One

I'm thinking that maybe we should get Carlos Slim and the other Mexican oligarchs to buy the U.S. They already have 20 percent of their population here ...

If POTUS Obama gets his way the UAE will buy the US

80 tokyobk  Sat, May 24, 2008 5:26:21am

re: #78 The Other Les

Back when the Atlantis Project was being promoted I was thinking, "Janet Reno and an Iowa Class Battleship."

Yeah, I notice they are being very careful on this issue and I am sure they will be flying a Liberian or Bahamain flag at first.

81 Sceptic Tank  Sat, May 24, 2008 5:27:36am

We, the "people" must suffer our leaders. Hail to our Soldiers on this Memorial Day. You are the best.

82 eon  Sat, May 24, 2008 5:33:53am

re: #64 Gang of One

Hmmmmm. Maybe we could buy Mexico?

I read an interesting op-ed on RealClearPolitics yesterday, which held that there is nowhere left to go on Earth for anyone who truly wants to be free. The author's solution? Colonize other worlds.

This has been a long-held dream of various SF writers, notably Poul Anderson (The Avatar), Robert Heinlein (Methuselah's Children, Time Enough For Love) and Andre' Norton (The Stars Are Ours!). Most other SF writers, however, postulate that any extraplanetary colonization, in the near term at least, will be government-run, with said government(s) choosing who goes, and very likely using extraplanetary colonies as "demonstration projects" of social constructs they find preferable. In some SF, these "experiments" end badly; Pallas by L.Neal Smith and Police Your Planet! by Lester del Rey (writing as Erik van Linn) are examples of this, as are K.W. Jeter's Blade Runner novels (based on both the movie and Philip K. Dick's original novel, Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?).

Eventually, technology may progress to the point where people may, on their own initiative, be able to emulate the pioneers who set out across the continents in search of new homes. (The Americans in the Conestogas weren't the first; read about the great forest "assarts" of the 8th and 9th Centuries A.D. in northern Europe. The Chronicles of the Slavs is a good place to start.)

There is also the possibility that the future may look more like Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged, in which our descendants may set out across this continent in Conestogas, due to the collapse of our present civilization, caused by the short-sighted and narcissistic beliefs of our "enlightened" leaders (many of whom hate, fear, and despise those whom they "lead"). In this event, learning basic 18th and 19th Century survival skills might not be a bad idea. In the future, knowing how to dig a safe septic tank and leach bed might be more useful than being able to WiFi your entire house.

I consider myself neither an optimist, nor a pessimist. I always try to be objective, and realistic. And I have a very large library of books on space technology, space exploration, and space colonization, all of which I hope may one day move from the realm of science fiction to historical fact.

But I also have copies of Practical Blacksmithing and Homemade Contrivances And How To Make Them, both reprints of practical books for farmers and ranchers from the late 1800s, as well. Not to mention books on preserving foods without refrigeration, building hewn-log homes, and basic wilderness survival. Just in case.

Because really, you never know.

cheers

eon

83 tokyobk  Sat, May 24, 2008 5:38:14am

I am suprised there has not been a Dick Morris comment yet about Hillary`s unfortunate brush with honesty. Probably he has not stopped laughing his fanny off.

84 Gang of One  Sat, May 24, 2008 5:39:56am

re: #82 eon

Have given much thought in the recent past to these ideas about survival skills. What I recall from my scouting days might help for a few days/weeks in the forest near a fresh-water stream or lake. But I never learned how to to hunt larger game with bow or rifle, much less dress it and preserve it. How does one acquire these basic skills of survival? I am no longer a spring chicken ...

85 Karridine  Sat, May 24, 2008 5:40:05am

Well, HERE's a home-hewn admission of defeat, by Hillary...

/Hat Tip IowaHawk and Keith Olderman
//spew alert

86 tokyobk  Sat, May 24, 2008 5:42:04am

re: #82 eon

Anyone who does not, along with the basic skills of modern civilization, also teach their kids how to hook a fish, plant and grow veggies, and shoot a gun, is beign irresponsible.

87 eon  Sat, May 24, 2008 5:43:59am

re: #83 tokyobk

I am suprised there has not been a Dick Morris comment yet about Hillary`s unfortunate brush with honesty. Probably he has not stopped laughing his fanny off.

Or maybe Morris is going by Napoleon's axiom,


Never interrupt your enemy when he is busy making a mistake.

Hillary seems determined to prove the validity of this.

cheers

eon

88 LeftJustAintRight  Sat, May 24, 2008 5:44:33am

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89 LeftJustAintRight  Sat, May 24, 2008 5:46:06am

re: #86 tokyobk

Anyone who does not, along with the basic skills of modern civilization, also teach their kids how to hook a fish, plant and grow veggies, and shoot a gun, is beign irresponsible.

You know it
My 8 year old is ok
Never been hunting tho
She might not like it

90 sparrowlake  Sat, May 24, 2008 5:46:12am

re: #84 Gang of One

Have given much thought in the recent past to these ideas about survival skills. What I recall from my scouting days might help for a few days/weeks in the forest near a fresh-water stream or lake. But I never learned how to to hunt larger game with bow or rifle, much less dress it and preserve it. How does one acquire these basic skills of survival? I am no longer a spring chicken ...

Do summer chickens like to Google stuff?
Good morning lizards.

91 russianbear  Sat, May 24, 2008 5:46:25am

Does anyone know about this site? Is this a hoax site? Is there any truth to this article? The writing style seems very poorly developed.

[Link: www.world-check.com...]

92 akak  Sat, May 24, 2008 5:46:50am

re: #86 tokyobk

blasphemy big oil & walmart ..............off with their heads

93 infidelia  Sat, May 24, 2008 5:49:12am

re: #91 russianbear

Does anyone know about this site? Is this a hoax site? Is there any truth to this article? The writing style seems very poorly developed.

[Link: www.world-check.com...]

New one on me, though I wouldn't put it past the Thug and the Dwarf.

94 Geepers  Sat, May 24, 2008 5:49:30am

tokyobk (#86),

A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, and die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.

~ Robert A. Heinlein

95 tokyobk  Sat, May 24, 2008 5:50:46am

I am looking at land in Northern Iwate and Hokkaido (least populated areas of Japan) thought that only protects me if "The Schumer Hits The Fan," to quote a well known survivalist, in a not completely catastrophic way. My expectation is that having your own food supply will be enough, but gun laws as they are here, I will have to pop alot of potato and cabbage thieves with a high powered airgun. Not saying in such cases I would not figure out a way to have real fire power, but for stockpiing, it will have to be a daisy type thing pumped a few hundred times.

96 Gang of One  Sat, May 24, 2008 5:52:22am

re: #90 sparrowlake

Do summer chickens like to Google stuff?
Good morning lizards.

Maybe you'd like to take me hunting for deer or buffalo this weekend? Teach me a few pointers?

97 tokyobk  Sat, May 24, 2008 5:54:42am

re: #94 Geepers

Cool quote, thanks.

98 Gang of One  Sat, May 24, 2008 5:55:36am

re: #94 Geepers

Instead, they are from an early sent to gummint or private schools where they are taught just about everything anathema to all Heinlein posits.

99 lawhawk  Sat, May 24, 2008 5:58:34am

re: #94 Geepers

change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, and die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.

Hmmm... gotta work on the fight efficiently, write a sonnet (never even attempted), and want to hold off on the dying gallantly part...

100 eon  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:00:07am

re: #84 Gang of One

Have given much thought in the recent past to these ideas about survival skills. What I recall from my scouting days might help for a few days/weeks in the forest near a fresh-water stream or lake. But I never learned how to to hunt larger game with bow or rifle, much less dress it and preserve it. How does one acquire these basic skills of survival? I am no longer a spring chicken ...

Edward R. Hamilton, Bookseller, Falls Village, CT, 06031-5000

Or just check him out on the Web.

Hamilton is a remainder bookseller who deals mainly in non-fiction; history, politics, technology, you name it. His Cooking, Self-Help, Collecting, Sports, and Do It Yourself categories are chock-full of books on survival, primitive living skills, etc. And being a remainder bookseller, his prices are often half cover, or even less. He deals entirely by mail, so the best thing is to get on his mailing list. You will receive a flyer twice a month listing available titles in all categories, and several times a year ones offering everything in the flyer for $2.95 to $4.95 regardless of original price to clear out major overstocks at publishers.

You can also order online from his website, but there is a 50 cent surcharge per book if you do so. I just send him my order by mail. About once a month, on the average.

Most of my recent book purchases, of all types, have been from Hamilton. Not just "survival" books, but history, science, even books on subjects like UFOs. (I don't believe them, but some of them are pure comedy gold.) And he does have some fiction, mainly mysteries and SF, and recently a lot of "spy" novels. Also, any Regnery books you might find interesting can often be found in his flyers at a a good bit below retail- ditto for books from the "BDS" crowd. (It's fascinating to see how quickly after initial publication the latter end up in his lists for $2.95, down from $29.95.)

His service is fast and courteous, and he will send you a refund check for any book you order that is out of stock at the time. But it often will show up later on when he gets more in, so if there's one in his list you really want, watch for it to reappear.

I cannot recommend this firm too highly. If you want this sort of material, or just love books period, you should check them out.

cheers

eon

101 realwest  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:00:46am

Good Morning all y'all - from a pleasant (62 degrees, goint up to 77 degrees) and partly sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?

102 Geepers  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:00:55am

lawhawk (#99),

But you're good on all the rest right? ;-)

103 tokyobk  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:01:40am

re: #99 lawhawk

Hmmm... gotta work on the fight efficiently, write a sonnet (never even attempted), and want to hold off on the dying gallantly part...

For me, I would rather not butcher a hog, though I suppose I would if not to meant me or my family starving.

104 Shay4l  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:01:53am

This thead is all over the place! Space colonies, throwing out the bastards, Hillary gaffes.

I have these images of millions of people trying to build log cabins next to each other and eke out a subsitence after a disaster. The biggest danger would be each other.

105 Gang of One  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:03:06am

re: #100 eon

Thanks for the info, will investigate.

Good morning, Real!

106 tokyobk  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:03:45am

re: #104 Shay4l

This thead is all over the place! Space colonies, throwing out the bastards, Hillary gaffes.

I have these images of millions of people trying to build log cabins next to each other and eke out a subsitence after a disaster. The biggest danger would be each other.


And all that smoke from the wood burning stoves would be terrible for the environment, not to mention the methane from the cows people would have penned in their compounds for cheese and beef.

107 wahabicorridor  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:04:10am

re: #100 eon

Thanks for the recommendation! I just placed an order at amazon that came to over $130.00 - and I buy used whenever I can. So you mention this guy's website, but don't give a link.

linky?

108 realwest  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:04:32am

re: #102 Geepers
Hey, good morning my friend! How are you doing this fine morning?

109 Karridine  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:04:47am

re: #103 tokyobk

That's central to this, Tokyo... NONE is just for fun, but when SURVIVAL depends on (doing this), you step up and DO IT.

110 wahabicorridor  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:05:00am

re: #101 realwest


*smooch*

111 realwest  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:05:04am

re: #105 Gang of One
Good morning! How are y'all doing this morning?

112 infidelia  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:05:30am

re: #104 Shay4l

This thead is all over the place! Space colonies, throwing out the bastards, Hillary gaffes.

I have these images of millions of people trying to build log cabins next to each other and eke out a subsitence after a disaster. The biggest danger would be each other.

Reminds me of my parents' friends who were building a backyard bomb shelter back in the 50s when I was a kid. They had 4 kids, a dog, a cat, and a parrot. My mother used to tell them that after a week in there they'd be hoping for a direct hit.

113 realwest  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:06:52am

re: #110 wahabicorridor
WooT! *smoooch* back to you {wahabi} - Man MY day just got a lot better! LOL!
How are you doing cutie?

114 Geepers  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:07:08am

realwest (#108),

I'm doing great on a beautiful morning. How are you my friend?

115 eon  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:07:11am

re: #95 tokyobk

I am looking at land in Northern Iwate and Hokkaido (least populated areas of Japan) thought that only protects me if "The Schumer Hits The Fan," to quote a well known survivalist, in a not completely catastrophic way. My expectation is that having your own food supply will be enough, but gun laws as they are here, I will have to pop alot of potato and cabbage thieves with a high powered airgun. Not saying in such cases I would not figure out a way to have real fire power, but for stockpiing, it will have to be a daisy type thing pumped a few hundred times.

Being in Japan, have you considered the daikyu, or traditional longbow? Or are they restricted as well?

I assume crossbows are completely verboten. No matter what they shoot.*


* Some crossbows, called "prodds" shoot clay or metal pellets- basically round "ball" bullets like a smoothbore musket, not bolts aka quarrels.

cheers

eon

116 wahabicorridor  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:08:33am

re: #100 eon

Found him.

117 realwest  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:09:11am

re: #112 infidelia ROFL!
Good morning and yeah, I remember those hearing about those bomb shelters, too!
Still don't know what folks were really planning on, given how long it would be before you could come out safely (assuming it would in fact protect you from any nuclear blast(s)).

118 realwest  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:10:50am

re: #114 Geepers I'm doing ok, Geepers! Promises to be a really great weekend down here weather wise.
You got any big plans for the weekend (does your hometown have a parade on Monday?)?

119 eon  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:11:02am

re: #107 wahabicorridor

Thanks for the recommendation! I just placed an order at amazon that came to over $130.00 - and I buy used whenever I can. So you mention this guy's website, but don't give a link.

linky?

Sorry about that, Chief, but if I try to look up a link while I'm composing, my computer dumps my post. Try this;

Edward R. Hamilton

or just type in

www.edwardrhamilton.com

cheers

eon

120 infidelia  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:14:13am

re: #118 realwest

I'm doing ok, Geepers! Promises to be a really great weekend down here weather wise.
You got any big plans for the weekend (does your hometown have a parade on Monday?)?

They have a parade on Monday goes right by my place. Unfortunately I'll be working at the bookstore on Monday.

121 lawhawk  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:15:42am

re: #102 Geepers

Planning invasions was part of my Zionist training don't ya know. /

I don't dig on swine, but since I know how to cook, carving up an animal for cooking is and eating is in my repertoire. :)

122 realwest  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:17:27am

re: #120 infidelia WHAT?! You're working on Memorial Day? Is it one of those chain bookstores or a private, smaller store?

123 lawhawk  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:18:45am

Planetary warming? How about multiple planets experiencing warming - the latest of which is Jupiter.

Jeez, I only have had my gas grill for a few weeks. Pretty powerful stuff that I'm able to not only influence the climate here on our planet, but can change the climate on Mars, Venus, and Jupiter.

I wonder what other factor could cause such significant changes in the Solar system. /

124 Geepers  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:19:42am

realwest (#118),

Glad to hear it.

Well, working around the house, does that qualify?

Small town parade, I should check it out.

125 Noam Sayin'  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:19:45am

Good morning, everyone. In case anyone is into it, The Dirty Dozen just started on TCM. Kelly's Heroes follows.

126 infidelia  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:20:01am

It's the dreaded B****rs of no, we won't carry that magazine with the Mo Toon on the cover fame. They only close on Thanksgiving and Christmas. Our is right between two malls which also will be open. There won't be much business so I will probably spend the day rearranging books.

127 Mich-again  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:20:42am

Stanley Cup finals starting tonight. Go Wings!

I'm hosting tonight thanks to the HD TV. That means I got to spruce up this place a bit. Anyone got a 40 yard dumpster I can borrow?

/ a 5 yarder would do.

128 infidelia  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:21:15am

re: #127 Mich-again

Stanley Cup finals starting tonight. Go Wings!

I'm hosting tonight thanks to the HD TV. That means I got to spruce up this place a bit. Anyone got a 40 yard dumpster I can borrow?

/ a 5 yarder would do.

If I did I'd be using it, heh...

129 eon  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:21:15am

Well, I have to "book", Lizards. Today's agenda includes a preemptive strike; me, my pump sprayer, and some Round-Up vs. crabgrass and what looks suspiciously like kudzu. (It's only supposed to be in the South, but apparently it didn't get the memo.)

Have a great day, Lizards. Stay safe.

cheers

eon

130 realwest  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:21:22am

re: #125 Noam Sayin'
HEY NOAM! Great way to start this weekend!
BTW if you (or anyone else) is interested, this is a link to Wiki's page on Memorial Day - it's actually kinda interesting reading: [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

131 Geepers  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:21:22am

lawhawk (#121),

Planning invasions was part of my Zionist training don't ya know.

And all I got was the sonnet writing course. [ripoff] ;-)

132 Miss Trixie  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:22:37am

re: #110 wahabicorridor

*smooch*

HEY!


{realwest} *smoochy-smooch-smooch-SMOOOOOOOOOOCH*

/that'll learn ya

:P

133 infidelia  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:23:09am

I'm off to work at the antiques gallery down in Salem, which is crawling with tourists from about now to the end of October. Can't wait for retirement age so I can get back to doing my 'real' work which is antiques and collectibles.

By for now, everyone have a great day!

134 Fredlike  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:23:49am

re: #129 eon

You would have a lot more free time if you lived by my motto. "If it is green and grows it is grass"

135 realwest  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:23:57am

re: #126 infidelia Well it's right thoughty of folks to recall the true meaning of Memorial Day that way (not blaming you, a job is a job, and I understand that!).

136 ethanxxx  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:24:22am

Good Morning Gentlemen... Ladies.

137 Gang of One  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:25:03am

re: #111 realwest

Doing just fine, sir! Sending out resumes, letters of reference, copies of my NJ State teaching licenses to just about every district here in Bergen County. Going to Staples now to buy large envelopes and then off to the P.O. to mail 'em out. Hope to get a teaching gig for September 2008.

BBL fellow lizards ...

138 wahabicorridor  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:25:47am

re: #134 Fredlike

"If it is green and grows it is grass"

How odd. My motto is "if it's green and DOESN'T grow, it must be money"

{MISS TRIXIE}

139 realwest  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:26:41am

re: #132 Miss Trixie
Now, now ladies, let's get carried away with this! Gets up off the floor, silly assed grin on my face and *smoooches* back to you gorgeous!

140 lawhawk  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:27:10am

It's high time the Israelis tried out this to deal with the incessant rocket and mortar attacks.

141 Gang of One  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:28:03am

There seems to be a whole lot of kanoodling going on here, Real.

You must have something ...

/now I'm really out of here ...

142 bullskin  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:28:06am

re: #9 galloping granny

Hillary is a socialist, Obama is a Communist and a strawman, and McCain has at least served this nation with honor since he was 17 years old. Our nation is in the gravest danger it has been in in my lifetime. Send him $199 and pull the lever.

Have you ever read this about McCain?.

143 Miss Trixie  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:28:07am

re: #139 realwest

Now, now ladies, let's get carried away with this! Gets up off the floor, silly assed grin on my face and *smoooches* back to you gorgeous!

HAHA! :D

{wahabbi} Morning, toots! :D

144 realwest  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:28:29am

re: #136 ethanxxx Hey there! Good morning to you, too! How are you doing this fine morning?

145 realwest  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:29:15am

re: #137 Gang of One See ya Gang of One - good luck!

146 realwest  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:29:48am

re: #138 wahabicorridor
ROTF! Love that one!

147 ethanxxx  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:30:51am

re: #144 realwest

Hey there! Good morning to you, too! How are you doing this fine morning?

Wet! Hopefully it will burn-off before noon. I guess you guys got rain too, huh?

148 realwest  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:36:06am

re: #140 lawhawkGood morning my friend! That's an interesting article! I never realized that Phalanx had been modified to stop artillery shells and "air to ground" rockets.
But it seems to me that someone - either the Israel's or us, have developed an anti-mortar weapon which is specifically designed to knock down enemy mortar rounds, while YOUR counter battery radar enables your mortar units to kill the mofo's who started firing mortars at you in the first place. I wonder if this wouldn't be a better system than Phalanx at knocking down the Pali rockets?

149 realwest  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:37:16am

re: #141 Gang of One Huh, I never heard of it being called kanoodling, but I reckon I must have - TWO beautiful ladies greeting me like that is really SPECIAL!

150 realwest  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:41:05am

re: #142 bullskin Hey, thank you for that post and link. Thank you very much.

151 realwest  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:42:16am

re: #147 ethanxxx No sir, we've been dry (although cloudy last night) for a couple of days now and this weekend is supposed to be truly glorious weather!

152 realwest  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:44:41am

HEY ALL Y'ALL - just an idea - if you've got a few spare hours anytime this weekend, why not see if there isn't a VA hospital somewhere near you and go visit some wounded/sick veterans. I know Memorial Day is to honor all those who've died in the service of our country, but those folks hospitalized in the VA system could use some cheering up on this truly special weekend.

153 realwest  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:45:36am

Huh - last FIVE posts were from me?!? Hello out there, can anyone hear me?! LOL!

154 lawhawk  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:47:37am

re: #148 realwest

You got me on that. The Israelis have got to do more than simply engage in counter battery fire each time the Palestinians fire on the Israelis. That's fighting the symptoms, not the cause - which is the Hamas thugocracy operating in Gaza. Deal with them, the leaders and their supply lines along with the other terror groups operating in Gaza, and that's when the mortar and rocket fire will stop. You have to defeat them, not simply allow for hudnas and ceasefires, which only enable the terrorists to claim victory and regroup and rearm for the next battle on their terms.

155 realwest  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:49:27am

re: #154 lawhawk You are of course correct, but while Olmert is PM, I'd want to have the IDF investigate the usefullness of those Phalanx or Counter-Mortar weapons really quickly.
Cause, let's face it, Olmert ain't ever gonna do the right thing here.

156 wahabicorridor  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:50:19am

*sigh*

ANOTHER book to add to the list.

Austerity Britian

“Austerity”—a condition and set of policies dictated by the government’s need, owing to a gigantic balance-of-payments deficit with the United States, to limit consumption to wartime levels and divert labor and material to the export trade—meant a home front without a war. Food, clothing, and coal would now in some cases be even more sparingly apportioned than they had been when the war was on; the British would not go completely “off ration” until 1954. With wit and ingenuity, Kynaston mines opinion surveys, radio shows, advertising slogans, parliamentary reports, and above all letters, diaries, and memoirs to evoke the gray tinge that permeated postwar life—the shabby frocks, the sallow faces, the grubby train compartments, the dreary meals (“all winter greens and root vegetables and hamburgers made of grated potato and oatmeal and just a little meat,” the food writer Marguerite Patten recalled).

need more coffee - BBIAM

157 Geepers  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:54:55am

lawhawk (#154),

The Israelis have got to do more than simply engage in counter battery fire each time the Palestinians fire on the Israelis.

At least it would be a step up from their current tactic of hiding in th basement.

158 JCM  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:57:49am

Morning all.

This was too good to pass up.

St. Paul Saints' 'bobblefoot' lampoons Larry Craig

While not saying it directly, the St. Paul Saints are having fun with Idaho Sen. Larry Craig's incident at Minneapolis/St. Paul Airport by offering a bathroom-stall "bobblefoot" giveaway for the first 2,500 fans at Sunday's game at Midway Stadium against Fort Worth.

A foot "peaks out of the bottom (of the stall) and 'taps' up and down," the Saints said in a statement. The Saints scheduled the promotion on National Tap Dance Day.

Craig pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct last year after allegedly soliciting sex from an undercover police officer, though Craig later tried to get his plea overturned. Craig's foot tapping in the bathroom stall was considered one of the signals that he wanted sex.

159 realwest  Sat, May 24, 2008 6:58:05am

Need more coffee? [Link: www.imeem.com...]

160 pittrader1988  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:00:26am

Here in Illinois, our state representatives will get an 11.7% pay raise. Last year they only got a 10% hike. The only way they won't get the raise is if they pass a bill against it!

Rickey Herndon (District of Obama) and Emil Jones (Owner of Obama), say that they can't find the time to write up a bill against that pay raise. Too many other important things they are working on.

Meanwhile, the corruption train runs wildly at City Hall in Chicago. The real reason Obama has so much support in Illinois is that they want to see the Federal Prosecutor changed. Patrick Fitzgerald has continually found corruption cases in this state-and Rezco is cutting it really close.

Obama had to run for President to try and save the gravy train for his boys in Illinois.

161 itellu3times  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:01:00am

So, great, Hillary made the same RFK statement in March.

Well, nobody ever said originality was one of her virtues - she had repeated her Bosnia sniper remarks about six times, before they finally caught up with her, too.

162 Shay4l  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:02:54am

re: #156 wahabicorridor

*sigh*

ANOTHER book to add to the list.

Austerity Britian


need more coffee - BBIAM

I can't imagine how today's softies in the West would react to such a life

163 realwest  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:05:46am

Well since WLGF seems to be (I hope) temporarily off line, let's try some of this to wake everyone up:
[Link: www.imeem.com...]

164 wahabicorridor  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:07:15am

re: #160 pittrader1988

I don't mean to demean the venality in Illinois, but you should see what's going on in the EU. MEPs get these LAVISH expense accounts - housing, travel, etc. - and they refuse to make their expenditures public. Not to mention that not a few of them have a very bad habit of putting family members on the payroll.

165 JCM  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:09:30am

re: #163 realwest

Well since WLGF seems to be (I hope) temporarily off line, let's try some of this to wake everyone up:
[Link: www.imeem.com...]

Mornings just aren't the same.

166 realwest  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:12:28am

re: #165 JCM Yeah, I know, but I'm trying, damnit!

167 wahabicorridor  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:15:46am

Gas prices: yes, I know that they're unusally high in the U.S., but in the UK it's $10 a gallon.

And their mass transit sucks.

168 JCM  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:16:18am

re: #166 realwest

Yeah, I know, but I'm trying, damnit!

*sigh*

Don't put too much of on yourself.

169 LeftJustAintRight  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:18:19am

It is a great day !
I am on vacation this week and Life is on hold so the Fun will not be interrupted
I Dont Care

170 JCM  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:19:51am

re: #169 LeftJustAintRight

It is a great day !
I am on vacation this week and Life is on hold so the Fun will not be interrupted
I Dont Care

*sticks tongue out*

Big plans or just kickin' back?

171 apb1  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:20:16am

re: #160 pittrader1988

No kiddin'! I live in that fetid political swamp as well - news this morning that one of Blagojowick's cronies will get almost a $40K/year bump in pension for 8 weeks "work." Here, where the socialist teacher's unions don't pay into Social Security but receive more than lavish pensions. From an article I read, the land o' Lincoln is looking at almost a trillion in unfunded liabilities over the next 40 years.

172 profitsbeard  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:21:53am

How dare Quayle talk about Obama like this!

Just like Bush!

173 realwest  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:22:50am

re: #168 JCM No, I'm not but ever since I "joined" Imeem (for free, btw) and can search out all the songs I'd like to hear, I'm just doing more of it.
But y'all might want to try Happy Birthday, Bobby Z
over at [Link: babbazeesbrain.blogspot.com...]

174 JCM  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:24:09am

re: #171 apb1

No kiddin'! I live in that fetid political swamp as well - news this morning that one of Blagojowick's cronies will get almost a $40K/year bump in pension for 8 weeks "work." Here, where the socialist teacher's unions don't pay into Social Security but receive more than lavish pensions. From an article I read, the land o' Lincoln is looking at almost a trillion in unfunded liabilities over the next 40 years.

Don't resist, fork over you wallet now.

Why is it when we look at government basics, public safety and infrastructure it's "mortgaging" our children's future. However socialist ponzi schemes are necessary investments in the future.

A pox on all Gramscian Whores.

175 LeftJustAintRight  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:24:44am

re: #170 JCM


Big plans or just kickin' back?


Both kinda
Taking Jessica and her friend to Disney World for the week
I bet I even might have a little FUN
Even thought I hate crowds and most people in general
LOL

176 apb1  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:27:04am

re: #174 JCM

Clutch your wallet for dear life whenever these phrases are used:

1. "It's for the children."
2. "As a devoted public servant..."

177 LeftJustAintRight  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:27:57am

re: #176 apb1

Clutch your wallet for dear life whenever these phrases are used:

1. "It's for the children."
2. "As a devoted public servant..."

Or the favorite
For the good of all

178 David IV of Georgia  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:28:04am

re: #104 Shay4l

This thead is all over the place! Space colonies, throwing out the bastards, Hillary gaffes.

I have these images of millions of people trying to build log cabins next to each other and eke out a subsitence after a disaster. The biggest danger would be each other.

The trouble with surviving after a disaster is that a lot of stupid people with no survival skills will fight those with survival skills to take their food. Luckily almost anywhere you look in nature, there is something edible and nutritious (or deadly toxic). I just hope I don't have to live off of dandelions and thistles....

My father was paid to build a log cabin in 1976 using only an axe, an adze, a horse, a rope, a grove of pine trees and a creek full of clay. Last I knew, the cabin was still standing. The roof is sagging, though.

179 JeremyR  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:29:28am

re: #9 galloping granny

Hillary is a socialist, Obama is a Communist and a strawman, and McCain has at least served this nation with honor since he was 17 years old. Our nation is in the gravest danger it has been in in my lifetime. Send him $199 and pull the lever.

Gotta disagree with your assessment, Hillary is a communist, Obama is a socialist. All a socialist is, is a communist without a spine. Obama has no spine! sure he is more liberal then Millary, but the lack of a spine is what marks him.
He hopes no one changes their mind when they find out he only votes present on the tough issues.

180 JCM  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:29:44am

re: #176 apb1

re: #177 LeftJustAintRight

Mine favorite....
An investment in the future.....

181 apb1  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:30:37am

re: #177 LeftJustAintRight

And in the true Orwellian twist, the 'good of all' is really the good of the few ...just too many don't pay attention to that detail.

182 LeftJustAintRight  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:30:47am

re: #178 David IV of Georgia


The trouble with surviving after a disaster is that a lot of stupid people with no survival skills will fight those with survival skills to take their food.


LOL
Only the strong Survive
I plan on being at the TOP of that food chain
LOL

183 realwest  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:32:25am

re: #179 JeremyR Sorry, but I agree with galloping granny's assessment of the situation. Obama is a communist and Hillary is a socialist (or whatever it pays for her to be at any given time).

184 realwest  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:33:06am

BBIAW!

185 JeremyR  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:34:25am

re: #180 JCM

re: #177 LeftJustAintRight

Mine favorite....
An investment in the future.....

IN 1998 the Manhattan KS school district pushed through a $25 million bond because of increasing enrollment to build three new schools. After the schools were built, enrollment dropped steadily for the next couple years and they closed some schools. Now they are pushing for $99 million in bonds for the children.

186 mikeinmd  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:35:35am

I have to run out to my local VFW today. Left them a message yesterday morning about volunteering if they needed some help, but noone called me back. I feel a special urgency to do something more this year for some reason. We shall see. Too many Americans think it's picnic weekend with a day off without giving a thought that real people who live right around them sacrificed so much so we could have our family gatherings, drink our beer, and argue with our idiot BIL who thinks RP is a genius (GAZE).

Enough rambling. Have a great weekend and remind those who are blasse about the weekend what it's all about. They must not be forgotten.

JS-The Forgotten II

Hope you like it !

187 apb1  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:36:14am

re: #185 JeremyR

Bonds should be for capital investment, not operational costs - what's the great $99 million scam supposed to produce?

188 LeftJustAintRight  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:36:33am

The F-ing Liberal mindset

I vote with my heart cause it makes me feel good
Equality means whats yours is mine
Let the Government handle my problems so I can be free


In reality they are spoiled brats with Me Me Me Me as priority

189 apb1  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:38:19am

re: #188 LeftJustAintRight

Great assessment.

190 JCM  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:38:22am

re: #183 realwest

Sorry, but I agree with galloping granny's assessment of the situation. Obama is a communist and Hillary is a socialist (or whatever it pays for her to be at any given time).

Both have the same political heritage, Alinsky. HRC is more pragmatic in that she's after the power and ideology can be sacrificed for advancement. BHO is more an ideologue, his father, friends, associates all his life have been hard left.

I'm in with GG and RW on this one.

191 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:39:20am

Have a great day--I've got to start the chores.

192 JeremyR  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:39:56am

re: #183 realwest

Sorry, but I agree with galloping granny's assessment of the situation. Obama is a communist and Hillary is a socialist (or whatever it pays for her to be at any given time).

I'll stick by mine. The only real diffrence between them is that Hillary has voted on tough issues where Obama votes present. He is a spineless coward.
Some people make a large distinction between socialist and communist, but the simple truth is both want the same thing. Comunists are a little braver about it, one is as bad as the other.
No, take that back, the socialist is worse because he will lie to your face much more about his intent.
Either of them would fit flawlessly into a pre 1982 USSR, or present day Cuban government. Neither of them bel;ong in ours.

193 David IV of Georgia  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:40:20am
#182 LeftJustAintRight 5/24/08 7:30:47 am

re: #178 David IV of Georgia

The trouble with surviving after a disaster is that a lot of stupid people with no survival skills will fight those with survival skills to take their food.

LOL
Only the strong Survive
I plan on being at the TOP of that food chain
LOL

The trouble with surviving after a disaster is that a lot of stupid people with no survival skills will fight those with survival skills to take their food.
It is primitive socialism at work—I don't care if you have all the skills and resources, share!

194 JCM  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:41:20am

re: #178 David IV of Georgia

The trouble with surviving after a disaster is that a lot of stupid people with no survival skills will fight those with survival skills to take their food.

Not a problem...

195 mikeinmd  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:43:43am

re: #194 JCM


Indeed. Leggo my eggo.

196 JeremyR  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:43:53am

re: #187 apb1

Bonds should be for capital investment, not operational costs - what's the great $99 million scam supposed to produce?

Refurbishing the schools that were shuttered four years ago. They have fewer students now then in 1998, and are projecting an increase that is still below what they predicted in 1998.
Scammed by the gov.
Additionally the Riley County comission is planning to create a building board, appoint themselves to it to circumvent state laws on voter approved building. If that passes, I will get royally screwed, because I live in the school district but outside the county. The county board will have authority over municipal and school district buildings as well.

197 realwest  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:45:22am

re: #186 mikeinmd From a veteran : Thank you. And if you can't find anyone at the VFW, try going to a VA hospital sometime this weekend - just to say "hi" and "thanks for your service" - I'm going to do that this year cause I do know how much the men who are hospitalized in a VA facility will appreciate it.

198 JCM  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:45:53am

re: #195 mikeinmd

Indeed. Leggo my eggo.


"Personal weapons are what raised mankind out of the mud, and the rifle is the queen of personal weapons."
"The rifle is a weapon. Let there be no mistake about that. It is a tool of power, and thus dependent completely upon the moral stature of its user. It is equally useful in securing meat for the table, destroying group enemies on the battlefield, and resisting tyranny. In fact, it is the only means of resisting tyranny, since a citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized."
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."

—Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle

199 JeremyR  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:47:00am

re: #190 JCM

Both have the same political heritage, Alinsky. HRC is more pragmatic in that she's after the power and ideology can be sacrificed for advancement. BHO is more an ideologue, his father, friends, associates all his life have been hard left.

I'm in with GG and RW on this one.

I agree that BHussein is worse, but my distinction between comunism and socialism is that socialist lack the spine (used to say balls) to tell you to your face that they intend to screw you out of everything you have. With socialists its slower and you feel it less, but in the end, its all gone.

200 laZardo  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:48:19am
People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history.

Well, I did partake in a high school graduation party that was held in the hotel right next to a coup that was preparing for its staging...

201 ishabibble  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:48:45am

re: #142 bullskin

Have you ever read this about McCain?.

I read this article more than a week ago. The same day, there was an extensive interview with Bud Day on FNC. I cannot recall the correspondent, as I was so transfixed on Bud and his story. Basically, the only time McCain ever talks about his time in the Hanoi Hilton is in his books(great reads!), so to have a man like Bud Day expand on those themes was quite illuminating. Also, anyone who has teen aged boys should use McCain's books as learning tools. I did that with my sons (Faith of My Fathers) and my Beloved paid each of them $100 bucks to read "The Godfather". It's called a well-rounded education, people!

202 JeremyR  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:49:18am

re: #198 JCM

"Personal weapons are what raised mankind out of the mud, and the rifle is the queen of personal weapons."
"The rifle is a weapon. Let there be no mistake about that. It is a tool of power, and thus dependent completely upon the moral stature of its user. It is equally useful in securing meat for the table, destroying group enemies on the battlefield, and resisting tyranny. In fact, it is the only means of resisting tyranny, since a citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized."
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."

—Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle

Some times I wonder if Jeff was wrong in that it seems there are more evil men then good.

203 MandyManners  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:49:38am

re: #6 kwrxxx

You don't post often but, when you do, it's a doozy.

204 FrogMarch  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:50:22am

Mark Steyn nails it:

The modern Democratic party is like Islam: You're either a believer or an apostate. Lieberman is an apostate.

Picking a running mate.

205 apb1  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:51:23am

re: #196 JeremyR

Shame. What really astounds me is the number of people who don't care to familiarize themselves with local issues that are costing them (or are GOING to cost them) a bleeding fortune.

The tough part is when the local area hits the tipping point. IL has passed the point where the voters "on the take" outnumber any others; we get the government we now deserve - graft and nepotism are rampant.

Our kids will both be in college this fall (freshman, junior). It *may* be time to start looking into the other lower 48...

206 laZardo  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:51:31am

re: #204 FrogMarch

Maybe Lieberman's just performing Democrat taqqiya?

207 JeremyR  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:53:13am

re: #203 MandyManners

You don't post often but, when you do, it's a doozy.

Scary huh? I've heard mention of Saddams worship of Hitler before.
al-Husseini is a very bad dude.

208 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:53:34am

Morning all,
What is the best virus protection software? I've had the AVG free version and need to change or upgrade.
Any recommendations?

209 Annar  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:54:03am

re: #3 kwrxxx

Icon of Evil: Hitler's Mufti & the rise of Radical Islam New book due out by June 24th, 2008 at amazon.com.

Preliminary reading for the above.

210 realwest  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:54:08am

re: #197 realwestPIMF Men and Women (sorry y'all, but when I served in the Army, there were no female soldiers and I tend to forget that these days!).

211 mikeinmd  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:54:11am

re: #197 realwest

Hey, that's a terrific idea, also !

Need to see what's near me, but I really like that. I'll see if I can do that tomorrow if the VFW needs any help on Monday.

Thanks for that ! and Thank YOU for your service.

212 JCM  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:54:48am

re: #201 ishabibble

I read this article more than a week ago. The same day, there was an extensive interview with Bud Day on FNC. I cannot recall the correspondent, as I was so transfixed on Bud and his story. Basically, the only time McCain ever talks about his time in the Hanoi Hilton is in his books(great reads!), so to have a man like Bud Day expand on those themes was quite illuminating. Also, anyone who has teen aged boys should use McCain's books as learning tools. I did that with my sons (Faith of My Fathers) and my Beloved paid each of them $100 bucks to read "The Godfather". It's called a well-rounded education, people!

That's one of the main reasons I don't get up in arms over McCain.

His core is solid, when it comes down the rock and the hard place, he'll do the right thing.

Is he my first choice? Not by a long shot. His frequent pandering drives me nuts. In the moment of crisis McCain will act decisively and correctly, HRC will stick a finger in the wind, BHO will whine about his waffle.

213 laZardo  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:55:33am

re: #208 newsjunkie_ky

They have 8.0 Free out. I took the advice of a couple lizards and installed Spybot Search & Destroy, and as long as you run regular scans and updates your computer should be fine.

I do also recommend CCleaner for removing temporary files though you'll still need Disk Cleanup if you'd like to remove excess Restore Points.

214 kansas  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:56:17am

People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history.

— Dan Quayle

People who are intelligent can spell one word wrong and then be beaten over the head with it forever if they are Republican.

Kansas

215 JeremyR  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:57:30am

Greensburg Kansas got hit again last night. No damage reported, but a twister went over again, touching down.
Kansas, Oklahoma and trailer parks, the three places you don't want to be when tornados hit.

216 sattv4u2  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:57:40am

re: #214 kansas

People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history.

— Dan Quayle

People who are intelligent can spell one word wrong and then be beaten over the head with it forever if they are Republican.

Kansas

BINGO ,, lets see if after 20 years anyone will be talking about how many states BHO thinks are in the union

217 realwest  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:58:47am

re: #208 newsjunkie_ky
Morning to you! LOTS of folks out here will disagree with me, and I'm not techy oriented, but I use Symantec (Norton) Internet Security - has firewall, anti-virus, anti-pop-up and will scan your incoming e-mail for you.
I also use Spyware Doctor for Ad-Aware and Malware protection.
As I said, a lot of folks will disagree with me, but for over 15 months now of near daily use, I've had no viruses, trojans, spyware, or malware using that combo.

218 JCM  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:59:42am

re: #202 JeremyR

Some times I wonder if Jeff was wrong in that it seems there are more evil men then good.

It may seem that way. Many people are passive.


Honor never grows old, and honor rejoices the heart of age. It does so because honor is, finally, about defending those noble and worthy things that deserve defending, even if it comes at a high cost. In our time, that may mean social disapproval, public scorn, hardship, persecution, or as always,even death itself. The question remains: What is worth defending? What is worth dying for? What is worth living for? - William J. Bennett - in a lecture to the United States Naval Academy November 24, 1997

One Vietnam veteran, an old retired colonel, once said this to me:

"Most of the people in our society are sheep. They are kind, gentle, productive creatures who can only hurt one another by accident." This is true. Remember, the murder rate is six per 100,000 per year, and the aggravated assault rate is four per 1,000 per year. What this means is that the vast majority of Americans are not inclined to hurt one another. Some estimates say that two million Americans are victims of violent crimes every year, a tragic, staggering number, perhaps an all-time record rate of violent crime. But there are almost 300 million Americans, which means that the odds of being a victim of violent crime is considerably less than one in a hundred on any given year. Furthermore, since many violent crimes are committed by repeat offenders, the actual number of violent citizens is considerably less than two million.

Thus there is a paradox, and we must grasp both ends of the situation: We may well be in the most violent times in history, but violence is still remarkably rare. This is because most citizens are kind, decent people who are not capable of hurting each other, except by accident or under extreme provocation. They are sheep.

I mean nothing negative by calling them sheep. To me it is like the pretty, blue robin's egg. Inside it is soft and gooey but someday it will grow into something wonderful. But the egg cannot survive without its hard blue shell. Police officers, soldiers, and other warriors are like that shell, and someday the civilization they protect will grow into something wonderful.? For now, though, they need warriors to protect them from the predators.

"Then there are the wolves," the old war veteran said, "and the wolves feed on the sheep without mercy." Do you believe there are wolves out there who will feed on the flock without mercy? You better believe it. There are evil men in this world and they are capable of evil deeds. The moment you forget that or pretend it is not so, you become a sheep. There is no safety in denial.

"Then there are sheepdogs," he went on, "and I'm a sheepdog. I live to protect the flock and confront the wolf."


Dave Grossman, author of "On Killing" and the "

Bullet Proof Mind.

"

219 realwest  Sat, May 24, 2008 7:59:52am

re: #212 JCM Another great post.
Thank you.

220 MandyManners  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:00:30am

re: #207 JeremyR

Scary huh? I've heard mention of Saddams worship of Hitler before.
al-Husseini is a very bad dude.

Learning more about the haj was my first mission here.

221 JeremyR  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:00:37am

re: #210 realwest

PIMF Men and Women (sorry y'all, but when I served in the Army, there were no female soldiers and I tend to forget that these days!).

When did you serve?

222 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:01:25am

re: #213 laZardo
Thanks.

223 realwest  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:01:49am

re: #221 JeremyR 1968-1970. US Army, 11-Bravo (Infantry).

224 realwest  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:02:46am

re: #220 MandyManners
Hey, good morning Mandy - how are you this morning?
Any idea of when you're gonna get your blog up and running?

225 laZardo  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:02:58am

re: #217 realwest

Norton IS caused my computer to take at least 5 minutes just to start up. =_= And it couldn't get rid of Vundo when my compy caught it last July...but then again maybe it was because I was using the 2005 version and getting a new, original version here costs $100 at least...

226 apb1  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:03:40am

re: #223 realwest

Thank you for your service in keeping us safe.

227 Ackomanyuki  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:03:42am

re: #216 sattv4u2

BINGO ,, lets see if after 20 years anyone will be talking about how many states BHO thinks are in the union

After Obama let's see how many States are left in the Union.

228 realwest  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:04:11am

re: #225 laZardo What is Vundo?! And you can buy Norton Internet Security through Symantic's website for less than $100!

229 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:04:25am

re: #217 realwest

Thanks, I'm not techy at all.
AVG says free 8.0 or buy it for 54.99 and then they had on another $10. I don't like that. Put the whole price up front. That just pissed me off.

230 sattv4u2  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:04:56am

re: #220 MandyManners

Learning more about the haj was my first mission here.

research the Grand Mufti's (Haj Muhammed Amin al-Husseini) ties to Hitler. [Link: www.palestinefacts.org...]

Hitler allowed him to have an SS unit made up entirely of (wait for it) MUSLIMS

from the link; The Mufti was one of the initiators of the systematic extermination of European Jewry and had been a collaborator and adviser of Eichmann and Himmler in the execution of this plan. ... He was one of Eichmann's best friends and had constantly incited him to accelerate the extermination measures. I heard him say, accompanied by Eichmann, he had visited incognito the gas chamber of Auschwitz.

231 JammieWearingFool  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:06:46am

Morning Lizards, hope all is well and a happy Memorial Day.

Still a bit brisk here in NJ, but Junior is badgering me to get in the pool already. Hopefully warms up some more the next 48 hours.

Been so cool this month I notice Algore hasn't opened his piehole to lecture us much.

232 laZardo  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:08:38am

re: #229 newsjunkie_ky

At least 8.0 doesn't annoy you with pop-up windows while it's running on the task bar...

re: #228 realwest

Vundo aka Virtumonde is an annoying little bug that causes the download of spyware that tells you that you have spyware thus causing you to download phoney anti-spyware apps that - depending on the user's stupidity - causes them to download even more.

It ground my family's McAfee desktop to a halt, so I tore out McAfee and gave them the 1-2 as prescribed above, and it's all fine now.

As for buying it online, I don't have that kind of money in my US account ever since I moved back here (long story, involves the nuthouse and overbearing parents conspiring with relatives) and the Philippines does not have compatible checking cards or credit cards with a minimum deposit way beyond what I can afford. ;_;

233 Miss Trixie  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:08:58am

re: #229 newsjunkie_ky

Thanks, I'm not techy at all.
AVG says free 8.0 or buy it for 54.99 and then they had on another $10. I don't like that. Put the whole price up front. That just pissed me off.

Me too. That happened to me yesterday and I'm not impress. But what can you do? Security is necessary.

234 MandyManners  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:09:31am

re: #224 realwest

I'm working on it more.

235 realwest  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:10:40am

re: #226 apb1 You're welcome but I wasn't any kinda hero, just did my job, kept my head down and moved fast!

236 MandyManners  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:10:53am

re: #230 sattv4u2

research the Grand Mufti's (Haj Muhammed Amin al-Husseini) ties to Hitler. [Link: www.palestinefacts.org...]

Hitler allowed him to have an SS unit made up entirely of (wait for it) MUSLIMS

from the link; The Mufti was one of the initiators of the systematic extermination of European Jewry and had been a collaborator and adviser of Eichmann and Himmler in the execution of this plan. ... He was one of Eichmann's best friends and had constantly incited him to accelerate the extermination measures. I heard him say, accompanied by Eichmann, he had visited incognito the gas chamber of Auschwitz.

Thanks! I think I already have that one but I saved it just in case I don't.

237 laZardo  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:11:49am

re: #230 sattv4u2

Wait, I thought the Ayatollahs said the Holocaust never happened!

/mmm, historical memory holes...

238 JCM  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:12:16am

PC Security.

I use Symantec on my PCs. I have it set to update definitions and scan in the early morning.

MacOS / Linux and Unix distros no vrius protection used.

239 pingjockey  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:12:21am

re: #236 MandyManners
Funny how stuff like this just disappears down the memory hole of the msm. Not.

240 apb1  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:12:38am

re: #235 realwest

Dude - that IS a hero! I'm just enjoying the fruits of your effort - life in the greatest country on the planet!

241 realwest  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:13:18am

Well all Y'all - Sorry but I gotta hop - cab here to take Mom and me to the VA hospital (just to visit some folks who don't get many visitors).
Hope you all have a GREAT DAY and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

242 Pshawalaw  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:13:23am

re: #208 newsjunkie_ky

I just "upgraded' from the AVG free version to the latest AVG frre version; they make it appear that you must pay but the fine print tells you otherwise. Btw, the latest AVG free version seems to work just fine. And, you don't have to pay for it.

243 laZardo  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:14:28am

re: #241 realwest

Cheers mate.

244 ishabibble  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:16:50am

re: #212 JCM


Agreed.

245 wahabicorridor  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:16:55am

gotta hop, lizards! Have a great day!

246 katemaclaren  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:17:31am

The Onion has a headline: Nightmare Ticket: Clinton, McCain AND Obama.
It's pretty funny!

247 MandyManners  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:19:13am

re: #239 pingjockey

Funny how stuff like this just disappears down the memory hole of the msm. Not.

This is not news so the MSM wouldn't even notice it.

248 JCM  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:19:13am

re: #235 realwest

You're welcome but I wasn't any kinda hero, just did my job, kept my head down and moved fast!

Real,

Any leg who was in country is a hero in my book. All of our combat vets are heros. Everyone stood up and answered the call of duty is owed a debt by the rest of us, included those of us who served but never saw the elephant.

Thank you. For me and my children who live safe and secure, I thank you. All our vets, especially the combat vets, thank you.

And this weekend to remember all those who gave their last full measure for all of us.

Thank you.

249 JeremyR  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:19:14am

re: #223 realwest

1968-1970. US Army, 11-Bravo (Infantry).

You were in about the same time my brothers were. As the baby of the family, I didn't join until 1979. Started out as 31V in an infantry unit.

250 pingjockey  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:20:38am

Y'all take a moment this weekend and give a little thought for those who have gone before and those serving now please. Did my duty Thursday night. Carried the colors in our local Memorial Day Parade. Pretty funny, color guard from Fairchild AFB in Spokane in front of us, all perfect and 4.0 and here are three of us behind, 2 Vietnam Vets and me, the youngest at 49 trying to keep in step! Always a good crowd in Chelan and very, very supportive. Will give strong men tears.

251 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:20:54am

re: #242 Pshawalaw

Thanks. How did you actually find the free version? Everytime I clicked download it took me to some other page still trying to sell me the package.

252 missouri boy  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:22:26am

A mugger sticks a gun into the ribs of this guy and says "Give me all your money!"
The guy says "You can't do this to me, I'm a Congressman"
Then the mugger says "Alright , then give me al MY money"

253 ggt  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:22:56am

Good Morning Lizards! It's glorious in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland this morning.

Only here for a short while, so quick, what are we talking about?

And how are you-all this morning?

254 sattv4u2  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:23:51am

re: #253 ggt

Good Morning Lizards! It's glorious in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland this morning.

Only here for a short while, so quick, what are we talking about?

And how are you-all this morning?

We were talking about YOU ,, now that you're here, we'll have to stop ,,, thanks a pantload for killing the thread !

255 pingjockey  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:23:54am

re: #253 ggt
Anything and everything. Good am to you. How goes the trial of the mayor or whoever or is that in Detroit?

256 Pshawalaw  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:25:35am

re: #251 newsjunkie_ky

Here:

[Link: free.grisoft.com...]

And just keep following the links that say free, the first one is at the bottom of the first column of the specs graph.

257 ggt  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:25:58am

re: #254 sattv4u2

oh, well, I won't be here long. You can resume your regularly scheduled rant shortly ;)

258 laZardo  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:26:39am

re: #251 newsjunkie_ky

Found it.

259 Wyatt Earp  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:27:39am

There's an eleven in the morning now? Wow, that sucks.

260 ggt  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:27:40am

re: #255 pingjockey

Hey ping!

No idea, I've been ignoring the news. Something about spring-time. Instead of listening to drive-time radio, I dusted off some old CD's. Led Zepplin, The Who . . . ..

I do know some Chicago Aldermen got put in orange jumpsuits this week.

Daley is fervently praying that Barack get's elected -- in fact, he's banking on it.

261 Pshawalaw  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:28:16am

re: #258 laZardo

There you go!

262 sattv4u2  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:28:36am

re: #259 Wyatt Earp

There's an eleven in the morning now? Wow, that sucks.

whats worse,,,,, my boss expects me to be PRODUCTIVE then !

263 pingjockey  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:28:47am

re: #260 ggt
Ah, he can resurrect voters like his dad.

264 pingjockey  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:30:13am

Later folks, yard work and all that stuff. Have a great weekend.

265 ggt  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:31:49am

re: #263 pingjockey

He's better than his dad. He can congure them from Mexico.

266 ggt  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:32:44am

Geez, I forgot, I have to go to the post office, in addition, to the rest of my Saturday morning duties.

Have a great day all!

267 rawmuse  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:33:12am

It's raining today in SF! Yay! My lawns get a much needed drink. Thank you, Lord. Now if it could gravitate south to Santa Cruz where the fire is raging, that would be good, too.

268 TomH999  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:33:34am

I always liked Dan Quayle. He ruined his political career by accepting nomination as VP. He was too young and did not fit the gravitas picture....

269 yochanan  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:36:40am

re: #160 pittrader1988

Here in Illinois, our state representatives will get an 11.7% pay raise. Last year they only got a 10% hike. The only way they won't get the raise is if they pass a bill against it!

Rickey Herndon (District of Obama) and Emil Jones (Owner of Obama), say that they can't find the time to write up a bill against that pay raise. Too many other important things they are working on.

Meanwhile, the corruption train runs wildly at City Hall in Chicago. The real reason Obama has so much support in Illinois is that they want to see the Federal Prosecutor changed. Patrick Fitzgerald has continually found corruption cases in this state-and Rezco is cutting it really close.

Obama had to run for President to try and save the gravy train for his boys in Illinois.

WHEN WILL THE TONY REZKO TRIAL COME TO A HEAD?

270 VegasRick  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:38:13am

re: #258 laZardo


Found it.

Thanks!

271 apb1  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:41:55am

re: #269 yochanan

Eh - depends! If Rezco's guilty and cuts a deal to reduce sentencing, he might end up in the Chicago river! If not guilty, he'll shut up and continue business as usual. Illinois is so corrupt, most of these jokers act with impunity.

The Daley machine still is covered in teflon - after the 30 building department employees were bagged this past week by Fitz & co., Daley was still basically saying there were only a 'few' bad apples...

272 sattv4u2  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:41:55am

TECHIE QUESTION ,, if I already have an anti=virus program (Norton) but it's about to expire, can I load that free one (AVG) now or do I have to wait till after Norton expires?

273 laZardo  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:42:05am

re: #270 VegasRick

No prob.

274 laZardo  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:43:03am

re: #272 sattv4u2

You could uninstall Norton then get AVG, it seems. One of the things AVG asks you to do upon first install is update and scan, so it's not such a bad idea.

275 vxbush  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:43:17am

Morning, morning, morning everyone. Or for those in other times zones, afternoon/evening.

This morning's breakfast: eggs and bacon! I rarely go for it, but today it just seemed right.

276 vxbush  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:43:33am

re: #274 laZardo

You could uninstall Norton then get AVG, it seems. One of the things AVG asks you to do upon first install is update and scan, so it's not such a bad idea.

What he said. :D

277 sattv4u2  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:44:33am

re: #274 laZardo

re: #276 vxbush

thanks ,,, I'll try that when I get home

278 offendi  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:46:26am

Obama seems to have a limited repertoire on McCain, i.e. "third Bush term". Due to the paucity of material I would expect a future attack ad as follows :

" John McCain. History of Melanoma. Can we really afford a Commander-In-Chief that can't go out in the sun? Americans the choice is yours this November. "

No doubt this will be picked up by the brain surgeons and rocket scientists at Kos who will start blogging McCain is actually a Vampire, and drinks the blood of young babies, just like Bush.
Of course there will be some significant disagreement there as to whether it is American or Iraqi babies, or both.

279 laZardo  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:47:18am

re: #278 offendi


Of course there will be some significant disagreement there as to whether it is American or Iraqi babies, or both.

Not that it will matter to the people who are disagreeing.

280 The Albatross  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:51:32am

Good morning lizards.... early summer for NW Florida, after the last month of turtle rescues now snakes are on the move looking for water (meaning my pool). Got a call at 8am and had to remove a pygmy rattler from the front lobby. By the time we got there, some idiot had "chased" it into an adjacent pampas grass. We didn't get it.

Snakes are usually on the move in July... looks like a drought year for us. Left instructions with the front desk to corner it, let it coil and put a bucket over it before calling me. I ain't about spending my vacation time beating the bushes for poisionous snakes.

I got better things to do, eh?

281 yochanan  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:53:19am

re: #212 JCM

That's one of the main reasons I don't get up in arms over McCain.

His core is solid, when it comes down the rock and the hard place, he'll do the right thing.

Is he my first choice? Not by a long shot. His frequent pandering drives me nuts. In the moment of crisis McCain will act decisively and correctly, HRC will stick a finger in the wind, BHO will whine about his waffle.

JOHN MCCAIN HAS BEEN TESTED JUST ASK BUD DAY.
ENOUGH SAID

282 kcladderman  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:55:47am

re: #186 mikeinmd


I do agree this weekend everyone should take pause and remember those who have given their all to protect our way of life.
There is always something more we could do for those who served along side us who did not return home, I mean besides the parades and public praise are very important. We should also take a minute to personally thank them in our own way.
When all of that is done I can't help but think all those Solders Sailors Airmen and Marines who look down on us as we celebrate, take great comfort in knowing that the American lifestyle is alive and well.
So everyone take a second at your picnics this weekend and raise a brew or a hot dog even and salute our brave warriors and thank them for all we have.

283 offendi  Sat, May 24, 2008 8:57:28am

re: #279 laZardo

I would think drinking the blood of Iraqi babies would be considered a more heinous act in that bizarro PC universe. Americans may be considered expendable, like from terrorism, if the grievance of the actor is considered good enough.

284 TS  Sat, May 24, 2008 9:00:12am

Nail bomber is mentally retarded..here is his pic:
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

The UK police better crack down on whoever got this poor guy to do this and made these bombs (the bomber sure as hell didn't make them, the guy is mentally retarded!).

OH this pisses me off!
Muslims--this aint the first time they used the mentally handicapped for terror bombings...even using Down's syndrome people.
So sick...
Charles, you should make a post with all the mentally handicapped people the Muslims tried to carry out terror attacks.
Religion of abuse!

285 apb1  Sat, May 24, 2008 9:03:44am

re: #284 TS

It sez he converted - does that prove you have to be mentally ill to be a jihadi? Inquiring minds want to know!

286 laZardo  Sat, May 24, 2008 9:05:28am

re: #284 TS

Must've been the religion that did this to him. Particularly the people who taught him that...

287 Shaky Louie  Sat, May 24, 2008 9:09:03am

re: #278 offendi

Obama seems to have a limited repertoire on McCain, i.e. "third Bush term".


Remember the little "(no) W" stickers? (Little round white ones with the red circle&slash through) Yesterday I saw a black one in the same style, except this time the letters were: "McW".

I wonder if the driver is a B-HO (h/t songanddanceman) supporter?

(re-tor-ikle qweshten)

288 apb1  Sat, May 24, 2008 9:10:11am

Later - time to cut da grass...

289 TS  Sat, May 24, 2008 9:16:01am

re: #285 apb1


You have to have some kind of mental issue to be a jihadi, that's for sure.

This poor guy is just mentally retarded and was befriended by the efing Muslims to carry out the attack. The sick bastards. I hope they get fucked up in prison....but they will probably just get special halal means and untouched-by-infidel-hands Korans, and freshly dry-cleaned prayer rugs.

290 Perry  Sat, May 24, 2008 9:19:29am

re: #94 Geepers

Thank you, I love that one. I had forgotten it. I am collecting exactly that kind of gem for a commonplace book.

A favorite...

Whatever you have received more than others--in health, in talents, in ability, in success, in a pleasant childhood, in harmonious conditions of home life--all this you must not take to yourself as a matter of course. In gratitude for your good fortune, you must render some sacrifice of your own for another’s life.
--Albert Schweitzer

291 laZardo  Sat, May 24, 2008 9:31:28am

re: #289 TS

They're gonna be told that their meals are halal, that their Korans weren't touched by infidels, and their prayer rugs were dry-cleaned properly. Then after they die of natural deaths...

"Wait...when did I do that!?"


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