Wake up people! I'm making eggs and pancakes! And a drink!

I put everyone to sleep on the previous thread....

Icon of Evil: Hitler's Mufti & the rise of Radical Islam New book due out by June 24th, 2008 at amazon.com.

Boy oh boy, they are laying it on Hillary aren't they?

HOPE, CHANGE, WIERDNESS

re: #3 kwrxxx

Icon of Evil: Hitler's Mufti & the rise of Radical Islam New book due out by June 24th, 2008 at amazon.com.

Product Description
A chilling, fascinating, and nearly forgotten historical figure is resurrected in a riveting work that links the fascism of the last century with the terrorism of our own. Written with verve and extraordinary access to primary sources in several languages, Icon of Evil is the definitive account of the man who during World War II was called “the führer of the Arab world” and whose ugly legacy lives on today.

In 1921, the beneficiary of an appointment the British would live to regret, Haj Amin al-Husseini became the mufti of Jerusalem, the most eminent and influential Islamic leader in the Middle East. For years, al-Husseini fomented violence in the region against the Jews he loathed and wished to destroy. Forced out in 1937, he eventually found his way to the country whose legions he desperately wished to join: Nazi Germany.

Here, with new and disturbing details, David G. Dalin and John F. Rothmann show how al-Husseini ingratiated himself with his hero, Adolf Hitler, becoming, with his blonde hair and blue eyes, an “honorary Aryan,” while dreaming of being installed Nazi leader of the Middle East. Al-Husseini would later recruit more than 100,000 Muslims in Europe to fight in divisions of the Waffen-SS, and obstruct negotiations with the Allies that might have allowed four thousand Jewish children to escape to Palestine. Some believe that al-Husseini even inspired Hitler to implement the Final Solution. At war’s end, al-Husseini escaped indictment at Nuremberg and was harbored in France before being given a hero’s welcome in Egypt.

Icon of Evil chronicles al-Husseini’s postwar relationships with such influential Islamic figures as the radical theoretician Sayyid Qutb and Saddam Hussein’s powerful uncle, General Khairallah Talfah, and his crucial mentoring of the young Yasser Arafat. Finally, it provides compelling evidence that al-Husseini’s actions and writings serve as inspirations today to the leaders of Hamas, Hezbollah, and other terrorist organizations pledged to destroy Israel and the United States.
Revelatory and unsettling, Icon of Evil reveals an essential character in the worst crimes of the modern era. It is an important addition to our understanding of the past, present, and future of radical Islam.

About the Author
David G. Dalin is the Taube Research Fellow in American History at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University. He is the author, co-author, or editor of nine books, including Religion and State in the American Jewish Experience (with Jonathan D. Sarna), The Presidents of the United States and the Jews, and The Myth of Hitler’s Pope. His numerous articles and book reviews have appeared in American Jewish History, Commentary, First Things, The Weekly Standard, and the American Jewish Year Book.

John F. Rothmann serves on the faculty of the Fromm Institute at the University of San Francisco. He is an author, teacher, archivist, political consultant, and talk show host on the ABC-affiliated KGO 810-AM Newstalk Radio in San Francisco. He has lectured on American politics and the presidency and the Middle East throughout the United States, Canada, and Israel.

Doh!

Weirdness.

Hillary is an idiot. Obama is a Socialist, and McCain is a Democrat. No horse here. Move along...

re: #8 Cannadian Club Akbar

Hillary is an idiot. Obama is a Socialist, and McCain is a Democrat. No horse here. Move along...

Hillary is a socialist, Obama is a Communist and a strawman, and McCain has at least served this nation with honor since he was 17 years old. Our nation is in the gravest danger it has been in in my lifetime. Send him $199 and pull the lever.

re: #9 galloping granny

Obama is a Communist and a strawman

Obama is the Manchurian Candidate.

#9
McCain will get my vote. But we have 300 million people here and these 3 are the best we can come up with?

re: #10 wahabicorridor

Obama is the Manchurian Candidate.

Exactly - and then some. Complete with a voting record rigged to hide his views about anything.

Hey Obama, my thermostat is at 76, screw you.

re: #1 Cannadian Club Akbar

Don't forget the bacon!

re: #6 kwrxxx

I will be getting my copy!

You mean to tell me someone is more evil than Pope Pius XII at the time of the Holocaust. Can it be?

/sarc -off

Hillary calls for Obama to concede

Frankly, there's just no way around the stark mathematics of the situation: Inconvenience(Me) = 1.0 * Accident(You). It is an inescapable statistical fact, as proven over and over again by my loyal team of Karma accountants -- including Sid Blumenthal, Howard Wolfson, and Harold Ickes.

lol

Though he may be young and inexperienced, I am confident Senator Obama will choose wisely. But to sweeten the pot, I am also prepared to guarantee him a post as Secretary of HUD in my administration, plus a two-year moratorium on plane crashes involving his senior campaign staff and immediate family.

Iowarocks.

Finally an admission of fact from the IPCC:

Rajendra Pachauri, head of the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, reluctantly admitted that there has been no global warming so far in the 21st century. .... There will be no more warming until 2015, perhaps later.

And finally, on a Saturday morning, I highly recommend browsing MAKE Magazine.

So anyway I just got up.

What did I miss?

Morning, TOL. I'm about to head out, myself. Your room.

re: #20 The Other Les

So anyway I just got up.

What did I miss?

My Arab joke got deleted
Hillary got caught thinking outloud
Obama is going to get the Victim Sympathy Vote
We are screwed for at least 4.5 years if not more
Thats all happy saturday

I am having fun watchin' Congresswoman Richardson spin about her forclosed house. Is that wrong?

She wants to use her forclosure experience to help craft a bail-out bill. Howabout the "pay your freaking mortgage and you won't have a forclosure".

She says, "I had four job changes in 4 months!"

How much does a congressperson make?

re: #21 godfrey

Morning, TOL. I'm about to head out, myself. Your room.

Okay.

The fun fact for today is that out of the ten Republican Presidential candidates since the end of the Second World War, four of them were military aviators.

re: #23 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

From 1789 to 1815, members of Congress received only a per diem (daily payment) of $6 while in session. Members began receiving an annual salary in 1815, when they were paid $1,500 per year.[28][29] As of 2006 rank and file Members of Congress received a yearly salary of $165,200.[29] Congressional leaders are paid $183,500 per year. The Speaker of the House of Representatives earns $212,100 per annum. The salary of the President pro tempore for 2006 is $183,500, equal to that of the Majority Leader and Minority Leader of both Houses of Congress.[30]

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Fat Bastard Vegetarian (#23),

How much does a congressperson make?

Don't matter how much you make if it's less than your mortgage.

re: #26 Geepers

Good point.

I have been diligent in making sure that my income was substantially higher than my mortgage payment. Even with job losses I have never had a forclosure. I expect for members of congress to be more responsible and resourseful than I.

re: #27 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That congresswoman just doesn't have the right kind of refrigerator.

Fat Bastard Vegetarian (#27),

Always live within your means, even if you have to borrow to do so.

re: #27 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

And wealthier. Never been interested in "common folk" members of congress, presidents, judges, etc. I want rich, resourseful, smart and capable people in places of responsibility.

Yeah, let's hire a guy who can't manage to pay off his student loan.

Fat Bastard Vegetarian (#30),

Elitist.

re: #30 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

But, they don't (except for judges) have to be lawyers either. Just rich and smart.

re: #31 Geepers

Damn straight!

#30 good point.

To hell with making these people release their tax returns. I'd rather see their FICO scores.

Mornin' lizards.

Hey Geepers. Just you and me, huh. So, how's it?

re: #34 Masslibertarian

Heh!

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. I see that Syria has rejected Israel's basic conditions before moving on to substantive discussion relating to the normalization of relations and return of the Golan - namely cutting ties to Hamas, Hizbullah, and Iran.

Funny, but you could see this coming from a mile away, and yet the media was all giddy over this. Now watch for the media to complain about Israel's demands getting in the way of a deal.

re: #28 The Other Les

That congresswoman just doesn't have the right kind of refrigerator.

You mean the kind that holds $100,000.00 bundles in the freezer?

Good morning, Lizards.

re: #38 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yes.

Fat Bastard Vegetarian (#35),

A great day here in central Ohio.

Where you at?

re: #25 The Other Les

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Yup, we have the finest congress that money can buy....

It is time for another tea party

LeftJustAintRight (#43),

Socialite.

FBV,

Why don't you run for Congress?

We need to scrap the government we have and start over from scratch

re: #46 LeftJustAintRight

Do we have enough guns?

re: #44 Geepers

LeftJustAintRight (#43),

Socialite.

I was referring to a Boston Tea Party

re: #45 Gang of One

What and get out of show business!

Honest question:

Are there any truly altruistic people seeking public office, or is every one of them a narcissist to some degree?

LeftJustAintRight (#48),

Down with King George!

re: #47 Gang of One

Do we have enough guns?

We don't need no stinking guns
We have the power of voting
If all the states recalled all the representatives and held special elections we could take absolute power away from all the professional lifetime politicians

I know it is a pipe dream but...

re: #39 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Goddess. And all other Lizards.

I gather Hillary had a moment of "clarity", ala' Henry VIII, yesterday?

"Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest senator?"

cheers

eon

re: #54 eon

I gather Hillary had a moment of "clarity", ala' Henry VIII, yesterday?

I call it thinking out loud
It only happens to me after the third Drink

re: #54 eon

That's Henry II.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

re: #54 eon

Good morning, Goddess. And all other Lizards.

I gather Hillary had a moment of "clarity", ala' Henry VIII, yesterday?

cheers

eon

Wrong King, that was Henry II about Thomas Becket.

re: #55 LeftJustAintRight

I never think out loud. I don't look good in a straitjacket. :-)

cheers

eon

re: #57 Dustyvet

Drat, you're right. I knew it was Becket. Wrong Henry.

Too early, not enough coffee.

cheers

eon

re: #52 LeftJustAintRight

Half the voters in this country put these poltroons in office. I'd suggest starting with the real enemies of critical thinking and liberty: academia, media and pop culture.

re: #59 eon

Drat, you're right. I knew it was Becket. Wrong Henry.

Too early, not enough coffee.

cheers

eon

Yeah, with Henry VIII it would be "wife" instead of "priest".

Morning all.

re: #60 Gang of One

Half the voters in this country put these poltroons in office. I'd suggest starting with the real enemies of critical thinking and liberty: academia, media and pop culture.

You are right
Like I said
Only a dream
I think it may be too late for America
We should win the Lottery and go start our own country

re: #61 infidelia

Yeah, with Henry VIII it would be "wife" instead of "priest".

Morning all.

Morning, infidelia. So true.

cheers

eon

re: #62 LeftJustAintRight

Hmmmmm. Maybe we could buy Mexico?

re: #54 eon

Good morning, Goddess. And all other Lizards.

I gather Hillary had a moment of "clarity", ala' Henry VIII, yesterday?

cheers

eon

With respect, it was Henry II.

But Obama ain't no Tom Becket...

Her lame explanation that she brought up the 1968 assassination of Robert Kennedy because his brother Ted's illness was on her mind doesn't cut it. Not even close.

Actually, it indicates a severe narcissism. At the very least a borderline personality disorder wherein her imagined superior compassion allows her to violate basic rules.

re: #64 Gang of One

Hmmmmm. Maybe we could buy Mexico?

Yeah, but if we did where would we keep it? The garage is full of junk already.

re: #64 Gang of One

Hmmmmm. Maybe we could buy Mexico?

I bet we could get a good deal on it
We could buy the United States
With all the crooked Law Makers
Everyone has their price
And the Dems are cheap Whores
LOL

EU Referendum has been hacked

By Muslim 'defenders'.

Apologies for being down - we've been hacked by a Muslim fundmentalist group. This is the second time this has happened recently and this time it looks like they may have done some damage to the database. Our gifted technical staff are on to it.

UPDATE: The server php handler is down - the gismo that links our forum to the site, which could means that they penetrated the host server. We have to wait for the host to do the fix.

As for starting new societies based on fair and free market principles:

Exeter Blast: Police Quiz Second Suspect

[Link: news.sky.com...]

re: #68 LeftJustAintRight

It's not like the Mexican government has never sold to the highest bidder, anyways, right?

re: #70 tokyobk

As for starting new societies based on fair and free market principles:

Old idea.

[Link: www.oceania.org...]

George Soros already made a down payment on the US
He can still be out bid tho

re: #72 Gang of One

It's not like the Mexican government has never sold to the highest bidder, anyways, right?

LOL

re: #74 LeftJustAintRight

I'm thinking that maybe we should get Carlos Slim and the other Mexican oligarchs to buy the U.S. They already have 20 percent of their population here ...

re: #73 The Other Les

Old idea.

[Link:

re: #77 tokyobk

I somehow think this crop of dreamers have the will and the cash to at least get a prototype into the Bay.

Back when the Atlantis Project was being promoted I was thinking, "Janet Reno and an Iowa Class Battleship."

re: #76 Gang of One

I'm thinking that maybe we should get Carlos Slim and the other Mexican oligarchs to buy the U.S. They already have 20 percent of their population here ...

If POTUS Obama gets his way the UAE will buy the US

re: #78 The Other Les

Back when the Atlantis Project was being promoted I was thinking, "Janet Reno and an Iowa Class Battleship."

Yeah, I notice they are being very careful on this issue and I am sure they will be flying a Liberian or Bahamain flag at first.

We, the "people" must suffer our leaders. Hail to our Soldiers on this Memorial Day. You are the best.

re: #64 Gang of One

Hmmmmm. Maybe we could buy Mexico?

I read an interesting op-ed on RealClearPolitics yesterday, which held that there is nowhere left to go on Earth for anyone who truly wants to be free. The author's solution? Colonize other worlds.

This has been a long-held dream of various SF writers, notably Poul Anderson (The Avatar), Robert Heinlein (Methuselah's Children, Time Enough For Love) and Andre' Norton (The Stars Are Ours!). Most other SF writers, however, postulate that any extraplanetary colonization, in the near term at least, will be government-run, with said government(s) choosing who goes, and very likely using extraplanetary colonies as "demonstration projects" of social constructs they find preferable. In some SF, these "experiments" end badly; Pallas by L.Neal Smith and Police Your Planet! by Lester del Rey (writing as Erik van Linn) are examples of this, as are K.W. Jeter's Blade Runner novels (based on both the movie and Philip K. Dick's original novel, Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?).

Eventually, technology may progress to the point where people may, on their own initiative, be able to emulate the pioneers who set out across the continents in search of new homes. (The Americans in the Conestogas weren't the first; read about the great forest "assarts" of the 8th and 9th Centuries A.D. in northern Europe. The Chronicles of the Slavs is a good place to start.)

There is also the possibility that the future may look more like Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged, in which our descendants may set out across this continent in Conestogas, due to the collapse of our present civilization, caused by the short-sighted and narcissistic beliefs of our "enlightened" leaders (many of whom hate, fear, and despise those whom they "lead"). In this event, learning basic 18th and 19th Century survival skills might not be a bad idea. In the future, knowing how to dig a safe septic tank and leach bed might be more useful than being able to WiFi your entire house.

I consider myself neither an optimist, nor a pessimist. I always try to be objective, and realistic. And I have a very large library of books on space technology, space exploration, and space colonization, all of which I hope may one day move from the realm of science fiction to historical fact.

But I also have copies of Practical Blacksmithing and Homemade Contrivances And How To Make Them, both reprints of practical books for farmers and ranchers from the late 1800s, as well. Not to mention books on preserving foods without refrigeration, building hewn-log homes, and basic wilderness survival. Just in case.

Because really, you never know.

cheers

eon

I am suprised there has not been a Dick Morris comment yet about Hillary`s unfortunate brush with honesty. Probably he has not stopped laughing his fanny off.

re: #82 eon

Have given much thought in the recent past to these ideas about survival skills. What I recall from my scouting days might help for a few days/weeks in the forest near a fresh-water stream or lake. But I never learned how to to hunt larger game with bow or rifle, much less dress it and preserve it. How does one acquire these basic skills of survival? I am no longer a spring chicken ...

Well, HERE's a home-hewn admission of defeat, by Hillary...

/Hat Tip IowaHawk and Keith Olderman
//spew alert

re: #82 eon

Anyone who does not, along with the basic skills of modern civilization, also teach their kids how to hook a fish, plant and grow veggies, and shoot a gun, is beign irresponsible.

re: #83 tokyobk

I am suprised there has not been a Dick Morris comment yet about Hillary`s unfortunate brush with honesty. Probably he has not stopped laughing his fanny off.

Or maybe Morris is going by Napoleon's axiom,

Never interrupt your enemy when he is busy making a mistake.

Hillary seems determined to prove the validity of this.

cheers

eon

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re: #86 tokyobk

Anyone who does not, along with the basic skills of modern civilization, also teach their kids how to hook a fish, plant and grow veggies, and shoot a gun, is beign irresponsible.

You know it
My 8 year old is ok
Never been hunting tho
She might not like it

re: #84 Gang of One

Have given much thought in the recent past to these ideas about survival skills. What I recall from my scouting days might help for a few days/weeks in the forest near a fresh-water stream or lake. But I never learned how to to hunt larger game with bow or rifle, much less dress it and preserve it. How does one acquire these basic skills of survival? I am no longer a spring chicken ...

Do summer chickens like to Google stuff?
Good morning lizards.

Does anyone know about this site? Is this a hoax site? Is there any truth to this article? The writing style seems very poorly developed.

[Link: www.world-check.com...]

re: #86 tokyobk

blasphemy big oil & walmart ..............off with their heads

re: #91 russianbear

Does anyone know about this site? Is this a hoax site? Is there any truth to this article? The writing style seems very poorly developed.

[Link:

tokyobk (#86),

A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, and die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.

~ Robert A. Heinlein

I am looking at land in Northern Iwate and Hokkaido (least populated areas of Japan) thought that only protects me if "The Schumer Hits The Fan," to quote a well known survivalist, in a not completely catastrophic way. My expectation is that having your own food supply will be enough, but gun laws as they are here, I will have to pop alot of potato and cabbage thieves with a high powered airgun. Not saying in such cases I would not figure out a way to have real fire power, but for stockpiing, it will have to be a daisy type thing pumped a few hundred times.

re: #90 sparrowlake

Do summer chickens like to Google stuff?
Good morning lizards.

Maybe you'd like to take me hunting for deer or buffalo this weekend? Teach me a few pointers?

re: #94 Geepers

Cool quote, thanks.

re: #94 Geepers

Instead, they are from an early sent to gummint or private schools where they are taught just about everything anathema to all Heinlein posits.

re: #94 Geepers

change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, and die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.

Hmmm... gotta work on the fight efficiently, write a sonnet (never even attempted), and want to hold off on the dying gallantly part...

re: #84 Gang of One

Have given much thought in the recent past to these ideas about survival skills. What I recall from my scouting days might help for a few days/weeks in the forest near a fresh-water stream or lake. But I never learned how to to hunt larger game with bow or rifle, much less dress it and preserve it. How does one acquire these basic skills of survival? I am no longer a spring chicken ...

Edward R. Hamilton, Bookseller, Falls Village, CT, 06031-5000

Or just check him out on the Web.

Hamilton is a remainder bookseller who deals mainly in non-fiction; history, politics, technology, you name it. His Cooking, Self-Help, Collecting, Sports, and Do It Yourself categories are chock-full of books on survival, primitive living skills, etc. And being a remainder bookseller, his prices are often half cover, or even less. He deals entirely by mail, so the best thing is to get on his mailing list. You will receive a flyer twice a month listing available titles in all categories, and several times a year ones offering everything in the flyer for $2.95 to $4.95 regardless of original price to clear out major overstocks at publishers.

You can also order online from his website, but there is a 50 cent surcharge per book if you do so. I just send him my order by mail. About once a month, on the average.

Most of my recent book purchases, of all types, have been from Hamilton. Not just "survival" books, but history, science, even books on subjects like UFOs. (I don't believe them, but some of them are pure comedy gold.) And he does have some fiction, mainly mysteries and SF, and recently a lot of "spy" novels. Also, any Regnery books you might find interesting can often be found in his flyers at a a good bit below retail- ditto for books from the "BDS" crowd. (It's fascinating to see how quickly after initial publication the latter end up in his lists for $2.95, down from $29.95.)

His service is fast and courteous, and he will send you a refund check for any book you order that is out of stock at the time. But it often will show up later on when he gets more in, so if there's one in his list you really want, watch for it to reappear.

I cannot recommend this firm too highly. If you want this sort of material, or just love books period, you should check them out.

cheers

eon

Good Morning all y'all - from a pleasant (62 degrees, goint up to 77 degrees) and partly sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?

lawhawk (#99),

But you're good on all the rest right? ;-)

re: #99 lawhawk

Hmmm... gotta work on the fight efficiently, write a sonnet (never even attempted), and want to hold off on the dying gallantly part...

For me, I would rather not butcher a hog, though I suppose I would if not to meant me or my family starving.