Wake up people! I'm making eggs and pancakes! And a drink!

I put everyone to sleep on the previous thread...

Icon of Evil: Hitler's Mufti & the rise of Radical Islam New book due out by June 24th, 2008 at amazon.com.

Boy oh boy, they are laying it on Hillary aren't they?

HOPE, CHANGE, WIERDNESS

re: #3 kwrxxx

Icon of Evil: Hitler's Mufti & the rise of Radical Islam New book due out by June 24th, 2008 at amazon.com.

Product Description
A chilling, fascinating, and nearly forgotten historical figure is resurrected in a riveting work that links the fascism of the last century with the terrorism of our own. Written with verve and extraordinary access to primary sources in several languages, Icon of Evil is the definitive account of the man who during World War II was called “the führer of the Arab world” and whose ugly legacy lives on today.

In 1921, the beneficiary of an appointment the British would live to regret, Haj Amin al-Husseini became the mufti of Jerusalem, the most eminent and influential Islamic leader in the Middle East. For years, al-Husseini fomented violence in the region against the Jews he loathed and wished to destroy. Forced out in 1937, he eventually found his way to the country whose legions he desperately wished to join: Nazi Germany.

Here, with new and disturbing details, David G. Dalin and John F. Rothmann show how al-Husseini ingratiated himself with his hero, Adolf Hitler, becoming, with his blonde hair and blue eyes, an “honorary Aryan,” while dreaming of being installed Nazi leader of the Middle East. Al-Husseini would later recruit more than 100,000 Muslims in Europe to fight in divisions of the Waffen-SS, and obstruct negotiations with the Allies that might have allowed four thousand Jewish children to escape to Palestine. Some believe that al-Husseini even inspired Hitler to implement the Final Solution. At war’s end, al-Husseini escaped indictment at Nuremberg and was harbored in France before being given a hero’s welcome in Egypt.

Icon of Evil chronicles al-Husseini’s postwar relationships with such influential Islamic figures as the radical theoretician Sayyid Qutb and Saddam Hussein’s powerful uncle, General Khairallah Talfah, and his crucial mentoring of the young Yasser Arafat. Finally, it provides compelling evidence that al-Husseini’s actions and writings serve as inspirations today to the leaders of Hamas, Hezbollah, and other terrorist organizations pledged to destroy Israel and the United States.
Revelatory and unsettling, Icon of Evil reveals an essential character in the worst crimes of the modern era. It is an important addition to our understanding of the past, present, and future of radical Islam.

About the Author
David G. Dalin is the Taube Research Fellow in American History at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University. He is the author, co-author, or editor of nine books, including Religion and State in the American Jewish Experience (with Jonathan D. Sarna), The Presidents of the United States and the Jews, and The Myth of Hitler’s Pope. His numerous articles and book reviews have appeared in American Jewish History, Commentary, First Things, The Weekly Standard, and the American Jewish Year Book.

John F. Rothmann serves on the faculty of the Fromm Institute at the University of San Francisco. He is an author, teacher, archivist, political consultant, and talk show host on the ABC-affiliated KGO 810-AM Newstalk Radio in San Francisco. He has lectured on American politics and the presidency and the Middle East throughout the United States, Canada, and Israel.

Doh!

Weirdness.

Hillary is an idiot. Obama is a Socialist, and McCain is a Democrat. No horse here. Move along...

re: #8 Cannadian Club Akbar

Hillary is an idiot. Obama is a Socialist, and McCain is a Democrat. No horse here. Move along...

Hillary is a socialist, Obama is a Communist and a strawman, and McCain has at least served this nation with honor since he was 17 years old. Our nation is in the gravest danger it has been in in my lifetime. Send him $199 and pull the lever.

re: #9 galloping granny

Obama is a Communist and a strawman

Obama is the Manchurian Candidate.

#9
McCain will get my vote. But we have 300 million people here and these 3 are the best we can come up with?

re: #10 wahabicorridor

Obama is the Manchurian Candidate.

Exactly - and then some. Complete with a voting record rigged to hide his views about anything.

Hey Obama, my thermostat is at 76, screw you.

re: #1 Cannadian Club Akbar

Don't forget the bacon!

re: #6 kwrxxx

I will be getting my copy!

You mean to tell me someone is more evil than Pope Pius XII at the time of the Holocaust. Can it be?

/sarc -off

Hillary calls for Obama to concede

Frankly, there's just no way around the stark mathematics of the situation: Inconvenience(Me) = 1.0 * Accident(You). It is an inescapable statistical fact, as proven over and over again by my loyal team of Karma accountants -- including Sid Blumenthal, Howard Wolfson, and Harold Ickes.

lol

Though he may be young and inexperienced, I am confident Senator Obama will choose wisely. But to sweeten the pot, I am also prepared to guarantee him a post as Secretary of HUD in my administration, plus a two-year moratorium on plane crashes involving his senior campaign staff and immediate family.

Iowarocks.

Finally an admission of fact from the IPCC:

Rajendra Pachauri, head of the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, reluctantly admitted that there has been no global warming so far in the 21st century. ... There will be no more warming until 2015, perhaps later.

And finally, on a Saturday morning, I highly recommend browsing MAKE Magazine.

So anyway I just got up.

What did I miss?

Morning, TOL. I'm about to head out, myself. Your room.

re: #20 The Other Les

So anyway I just got up.

What did I miss?

My Arab joke got deleted
Hillary got caught thinking outloud
Obama is going to get the Victim Sympathy Vote
We are screwed for at least 4.5 years if not more
Thats all happy saturday

I am having fun watchin' Congresswoman Richardson spin about her forclosed house. Is that wrong?

She wants to use her forclosure experience to help craft a bail-out bill. Howabout the "pay your freaking mortgage and you won't have a forclosure".

She says, "I had four job changes in 4 months!"

How much does a congressperson make?

re: #21 godfrey

Morning, TOL. I'm about to head out, myself. Your room.

Okay.

The fun fact for today is that out of the ten Republican Presidential candidates since the end of the Second World War, four of them were military aviators.

re: #23 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

From 1789 to 1815, members of Congress received only a per diem (daily payment) of $6 while in session. Members began receiving an annual salary in 1815, when they were paid $1,500 per year.[28][29] As of 2006 rank and file Members of Congress received a yearly salary of $165,200.[29] Congressional leaders are paid $183,500 per year. The Speaker of the House of Representatives earns $212,100 per annum. The salary of the President pro tempore for 2006 is $183,500, equal to that of the Majority Leader and Minority Leader of both Houses of Congress.[30]

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Fat Bastard Vegetarian (#23),

How much does a congressperson make?

Don't matter how much you make if it's less than your mortgage.

re: #26 Geepers

Good point.

I have been diligent in making sure that my income was substantially higher than my mortgage payment. Even with job losses I have never had a forclosure. I expect for members of congress to be more responsible and resourseful than I.

re: #27 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That congresswoman just doesn't have the right kind of refrigerator.

Fat Bastard Vegetarian (#27),

Always live within your means, even if you have to borrow to do so.

re: #27 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

And wealthier. Never been interested in "common folk" members of congress, presidents, judges, etc. I want rich, resourseful, smart and capable people in places of responsibility.

Yeah, let's hire a guy who can't manage to pay off his student loan.

Fat Bastard Vegetarian (#30),

Elitist.

re: #30 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

But, they don't (except for judges) have to be lawyers either. Just rich and smart.

re: #31 Geepers

Damn straight!

#30 good point.

To hell with making these people release their tax returns. I'd rather see their FICO scores.

Mornin' lizards.

Hey Geepers. Just you and me, huh. So, how's it?

re: #34 Masslibertarian

Heh!

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. I see that Syria has rejected Israel's basic conditions before moving on to substantive discussion relating to the normalization of relations and return of the Golan - namely cutting ties to Hamas, Hizbullah, and Iran.

Funny, but you could see this coming from a mile away, and yet the media was all giddy over this. Now watch for the media to complain about Israel's demands getting in the way of a deal.

re: #28 The Other Les

That congresswoman just doesn't have the right kind of refrigerator.

You mean the kind that holds $100,000.00 bundles in the freezer?

Good morning, Lizards.

re: #38 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yes.

Fat Bastard Vegetarian (#35),

A great day here in central Ohio.

Where you at?

re: #25 The Other Les

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Yup, we have the finest congress that money can buy...

It is time for another tea party

LeftJustAintRight (#43),

Socialite.

FBV,

Why don't you run for Congress?

We need to scrap the government we have and start over from scratch

re: #46 LeftJustAintRight

Do we have enough guns?

re: #44 Geepers

LeftJustAintRight (#43),

Socialite.

I was referring to a Boston Tea Party

re: #45 Gang of One

What and get out of show business!

Honest question:

Are there any truly altruistic people seeking public office, or is every one of them a narcissist to some degree?

LeftJustAintRight (#48),

Down with King George!

re: #47 Gang of One

Do we have enough guns?

We don't need no stinking guns
We have the power of voting
If all the states recalled all the representatives and held special elections we could take absolute power away from all the professional lifetime politicians

I know it is a pipe dream but...

re: #39 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Goddess. And all other Lizards.

I gather Hillary had a moment of "clarity", ala' Henry VIII, yesterday?

"Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest senator?"

cheers

eon

re: #54 eon

I gather Hillary had a moment of "clarity", ala' Henry VIII, yesterday?

I call it thinking out loud
It only happens to me after the third Drink

re: #54 eon

That's Henry II.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

re: #54 eon

Good morning, Goddess. And all other Lizards.

I gather Hillary had a moment of "clarity", ala' Henry VIII, yesterday?

cheers

eon

Wrong King, that was Henry II about Thomas Becket.

re: #55 LeftJustAintRight

I never think out loud. I don't look good in a straitjacket. :-)

cheers

eon

re: #57 Dustyvet

Drat, you're right. I knew it was Becket. Wrong Henry.

Too early, not enough coffee.

cheers

eon

re: #52 LeftJustAintRight

Half the voters in this country put these poltroons in office. I'd suggest starting with the real enemies of critical thinking and liberty: academia, media and pop culture.

re: #59 eon

Drat, you're right. I knew it was Becket. Wrong Henry.

Too early, not enough coffee.

cheers

eon

Yeah, with Henry VIII it would be "wife" instead of "priest".

Morning all.

re: #60 Gang of One

Half the voters in this country put these poltroons in office. I'd suggest starting with the real enemies of critical thinking and liberty: academia, media and pop culture.

You are right
Like I said
Only a dream
I think it may be too late for America
We should win the Lottery and go start our own country

re: #61 infidelia

Yeah, with Henry VIII it would be "wife" instead of "priest".

Morning all.

Morning, infidelia. So true.

cheers

eon

re: #62 LeftJustAintRight

Hmmm. Maybe we could buy Mexico?

re: #54 eon

Good morning, Goddess. And all other Lizards.

I gather Hillary had a moment of "clarity", ala' Henry VIII, yesterday?

cheers

eon

With respect, it was Henry II.

But Obama ain't no Tom Becket...

Her lame explanation that she brought up the 1968 assassination of Robert Kennedy because his brother Ted's illness was on her mind doesn't cut it. Not even close.

Actually, it indicates a severe narcissism. At the very least a borderline personality disorder wherein her imagined superior compassion allows her to violate basic rules.

re: #64 Gang of One

Hmmm. Maybe we could buy Mexico?

Yeah, but if we did where would we keep it? The garage is full of junk already.

re: #64 Gang of One

Hmmm. Maybe we could buy Mexico?

I bet we could get a good deal on it
We could buy the United States
With all the crooked Law Makers
Everyone has their price
And the Dems are cheap Whores
LOL

EU Referendum has been hacked

By Muslim 'defenders'.

Apologies for being down - we've been hacked by a Muslim fundmentalist group. This is the second time this has happened recently and this time it looks like they may have done some damage to the database. Our gifted technical staff are on to it.

UPDATE: The server php handler is down - the gismo that links our forum to the site, which could means that they penetrated the host server. We have to wait for the host to do the fix.

As for starting new societies based on fair and free market principles:

Exeter Blast: Police Quiz Second Suspect

[Link: news.sky.com...]

re: #68 LeftJustAintRight

It's not like the Mexican government has never sold to the highest bidder, anyways, right?

re: #70 tokyobk

As for starting new societies based on fair and free market principles:

Old idea.

[Link: www.oceania.org...]

George Soros already made a down payment on the US
He can still be out bid tho

re: #72 Gang of One

It's not like the Mexican government has never sold to the highest bidder, anyways, right?

LOL

re: #74 LeftJustAintRight

I'm thinking that maybe we should get Carlos Slim and the other Mexican oligarchs to buy the U.S. They already have 20 percent of their population here ...

re: #73 The Other Les

Old idea.

[Link: www.oceania.org...]

I somehow think this crop of dreamers have the will and the cash to at least get a prototype into the Bay.

re: #77 tokyobk

I somehow think this crop of dreamers have the will and the cash to at least get a prototype into the Bay.

Back when the Atlantis Project was being promoted I was thinking, "Janet Reno and an Iowa Class Battleship."

re: #76 Gang of One

I'm thinking that maybe we should get Carlos Slim and the other Mexican oligarchs to buy the U.S. They already have 20 percent of their population here ...

If POTUS Obama gets his way the UAE will buy the US

re: #78 The Other Les

Back when the Atlantis Project was being promoted I was thinking, "Janet Reno and an Iowa Class Battleship."

Yeah, I notice they are being very careful on this issue and I am sure they will be flying a Liberian or Bahamain flag at first.

We, the "people" must suffer our leaders. Hail to our Soldiers on this Memorial Day. You are the best.

re: #64 Gang of One

Hmmm. Maybe we could buy Mexico?

I read an interesting op-ed on RealClearPolitics yesterday, which held that there is nowhere left to go on Earth for anyone who truly wants to be free. The author's solution? Colonize other worlds.

This has been a long-held dream of various SF writers, notably Poul Anderson (The Avatar), Robert Heinlein (Methuselah's Children, Time Enough For Love) and Andre' Norton (The Stars Are Ours!). Most other SF writers, however, postulate that any extraplanetary colonization, in the near term at least, will be government-run, with said government(s) choosing who goes, and very likely using extraplanetary colonies as "demonstration projects" of social constructs they find preferable. In some SF, these "experiments" end badly; Pallas by L.Neal Smith and Police Your Planet! by Lester del Rey (writing as Erik van Linn) are examples of this, as are K.W. Jeter's Blade Runner novels (based on both the movie and Philip K. Dick's original novel, Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?).

Eventually, technology may progress to the point where people may, on their own initiative, be able to emulate the pioneers who set out across the continents in search of new homes. (The Americans in the Conestogas weren't the first; read about the great forest "assarts" of the 8th and 9th Centuries A.D. in northern Europe. The Chronicles of the Slavs is a good place to start.)

There is also the possibility that the future may look more like Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged, in which our descendants may set out across this continent in Conestogas, due to the collapse of our present civilization, caused by the short-sighted and narcissistic beliefs of our "enlightened" leaders (many of whom hate, fear, and despise those whom they "lead"). In this event, learning basic 18th and 19th Century survival skills might not be a bad idea. In the future, knowing how to dig a safe septic tank and leach bed might be more useful than being able to WiFi your entire house.

I consider myself neither an optimist, nor a pessimist. I always try to be objective, and realistic. And I have a very large library of books on space technology, space exploration, and space colonization, all of which I hope may one day move from the realm of science fiction to historical fact.

But I also have copies of Practical Blacksmithing and Homemade Contrivances And How To Make Them, both reprints of practical books for farmers and ranchers from the late 1800s, as well. Not to mention books on preserving foods without refrigeration, building hewn-log homes, and basic wilderness survival. Just in case.

Because really, you never know.

cheers

eon

I am suprised there has not been a Dick Morris comment yet about Hillary`s unfortunate brush with honesty. Probably he has not stopped laughing his fanny off.

re: #82 eon

Have given much thought in the recent past to these ideas about survival skills. What I recall from my scouting days might help for a few days/weeks in the forest near a fresh-water stream or lake. But I never learned how to to hunt larger game with bow or rifle, much less dress it and preserve it. How does one acquire these basic skills of survival? I am no longer a spring chicken ...

Well, HERE's a home-hewn admission of defeat, by Hillary...

/Hat Tip IowaHawk and Keith Olderman
//spew alert

re: #82 eon

Anyone who does not, along with the basic skills of modern civilization, also teach their kids how to hook a fish, plant and grow veggies, and shoot a gun, is beign irresponsible.

re: #83 tokyobk

I am suprised there has not been a Dick Morris comment yet about Hillary`s unfortunate brush with honesty. Probably he has not stopped laughing his fanny off.

Or maybe Morris is going by Napoleon's axiom,

Never interrupt your enemy when he is busy making a mistake.

Hillary seems determined to prove the validity of this.

cheers

eon

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re: #86 tokyobk

Anyone who does not, along with the basic skills of modern civilization, also teach their kids how to hook a fish, plant and grow veggies, and shoot a gun, is beign irresponsible.

You know it
My 8 year old is ok
Never been hunting tho
She might not like it

re: #84 Gang of One

Have given much thought in the recent past to these ideas about survival skills. What I recall from my scouting days might help for a few days/weeks in the forest near a fresh-water stream or lake. But I never learned how to to hunt larger game with bow or rifle, much less dress it and preserve it. How does one acquire these basic skills of survival? I am no longer a spring chicken ...

Do summer chickens like to Google stuff?
Good morning lizards.

Does anyone know about this site? Is this a hoax site? Is there any truth to this article? The writing style seems very poorly developed.

[Link: www.world-check.com...]

re: #86 tokyobk

blasphemy big oil & walmart ...off with their heads

re: #91 russianbear

Does anyone know about this site? Is this a hoax site? Is there any truth to this article? The writing style seems very poorly developed.

[Link: www.world-check.com...]

New one on me, though I wouldn't put it past the Thug and the Dwarf.

tokyobk (#86),

A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, and die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.

~ Robert A. Heinlein

I am looking at land in Northern Iwate and Hokkaido (least populated areas of Japan) thought that only protects me if "The Schumer Hits The Fan," to quote a well known survivalist, in a not completely catastrophic way. My expectation is that having your own food supply will be enough, but gun laws as they are here, I will have to pop alot of potato and cabbage thieves with a high powered airgun. Not saying in such cases I would not figure out a way to have real fire power, but for stockpiing, it will have to be a daisy type thing pumped a few hundred times.

re: #90 sparrowlake

Do summer chickens like to Google stuff?
Good morning lizards.

Maybe you'd like to take me hunting for deer or buffalo this weekend? Teach me a few pointers?

re: #94 Geepers

Cool quote, thanks.

re: #94 Geepers

Instead, they are from an early sent to gummint or private schools where they are taught just about everything anathema to all Heinlein posits.

re: #94 Geepers

change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, and die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.

Hmmm... gotta work on the fight efficiently, write a sonnet (never even attempted), and want to hold off on the dying gallantly part...

re: #84 Gang of One

Have given much thought in the recent past to these ideas about survival skills. What I recall from my scouting days might help for a few days/weeks in the forest near a fresh-water stream or lake. But I never learned how to to hunt larger game with bow or rifle, much less dress it and preserve it. How does one acquire these basic skills of survival? I am no longer a spring chicken ...

Edward R. Hamilton, Bookseller, Falls Village, CT, 06031-5000

Or just check him out on the Web.

Hamilton is a remainder bookseller who deals mainly in non-fiction; history, politics, technology, you name it. His Cooking, Self-Help, Collecting, Sports, and Do It Yourself categories are chock-full of books on survival, primitive living skills, etc. And being a remainder bookseller, his prices are often half cover, or even less. He deals entirely by mail, so the best thing is to get on his mailing list. You will receive a flyer twice a month listing available titles in all categories, and several times a year ones offering everything in the flyer for $2.95 to $4.95 regardless of original price to clear out major overstocks at publishers.

You can also order online from his website, but there is a 50 cent surcharge per book if you do so. I just send him my order by mail. About once a month, on the average.

Most of my recent book purchases, of all types, have been from Hamilton. Not just "survival" books, but history, science, even books on subjects like UFOs. (I don't believe them, but some of them are pure comedy gold.) And he does have some fiction, mainly mysteries and SF, and recently a lot of "spy" novels. Also, any Regnery books you might find interesting can often be found in his flyers at a a good bit below retail- ditto for books from the "BDS" crowd. (It's fascinating to see how quickly after initial publication the latter end up in his lists for $2.95, down from $29.95.)

His service is fast and courteous, and he will send you a refund check for any book you order that is out of stock at the time. But it often will show up later on when he gets more in, so if there's one in his list you really want, watch for it to reappear.

I cannot recommend this firm too highly. If you want this sort of material, or just love books period, you should check them out.

cheers

eon

Good Morning all y'all - from a pleasant (62 degrees, goint up to 77 degrees) and partly sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?

lawhawk (#99),

But you're good on all the rest right? ;-)

re: #99 lawhawk

Hmmm... gotta work on the fight efficiently, write a sonnet (never even attempted), and want to hold off on the dying gallantly part...

For me, I would rather not butcher a hog, though I suppose I would if not to meant me or my family starving.

This thead is all over the place! Space colonies, throwing out the bastards, Hillary gaffes.

I have these images of millions of people trying to build log cabins next to each other and eke out a subsitence after a disaster. The biggest danger would be each other.

re: #100 eon

Thanks for the info, will investigate.

Good morning, Real!

re: #104 Shay4l

This thead is all over the place! Space colonies, throwing out the bastards, Hillary gaffes.

I have these images of millions of people trying to build log cabins next to each other and eke out a subsitence after a disaster. The biggest danger would be each other.

And all that smoke from the wood burning stoves would be terrible for the environment, not to mention the methane from the cows people would have penned in their compounds for cheese and beef.

re: #100 eon

Thanks for the recommendation! I just placed an order at amazon that came to over $130.00 - and I buy used whenever I can. So you mention this guy's website, but don't give a link.

linky?

re: #102 Geepers
Hey, good morning my friend! How are you doing this fine morning?

re: #103 tokyobk

That's central to this, Tokyo... NONE is just for fun, but when SURVIVAL depends on (doing this), you step up and DO IT.

re: #101 realwest

*smooch*

re: #105 Gang of One
Good morning! How are y'all doing this morning?

re: #104 Shay4l

This thead is all over the place! Space colonies, throwing out the bastards, Hillary gaffes.

I have these images of millions of people trying to build log cabins next to each other and eke out a subsitence after a disaster. The biggest danger would be each other.

Reminds me of my parents' friends who were building a backyard bomb shelter back in the 50s when I was a kid. They had 4 kids, a dog, a cat, and a parrot. My mother used to tell them that after a week in there they'd be hoping for a direct hit.

re: #110 wahabicorridor
WooT! *smoooch* back to you {wahabi} - Man MY day just got a lot better! LOL!
How are you doing cutie?

realwest (#108),

I'm doing great on a beautiful morning. How are you my friend?

re: #95 tokyobk

I am looking at land in Northern Iwate and Hokkaido (least populated areas of Japan) thought that only protects me if "The Schumer Hits The Fan," to quote a well known survivalist, in a not completely catastrophic way. My expectation is that having your own food supply will be enough, but gun laws as they are here, I will have to pop alot of potato and cabbage thieves with a high powered airgun. Not saying in such cases I would not figure out a way to have real fire power, but for stockpiing, it will have to be a daisy type thing pumped a few hundred times.

Being in Japan, have you considered the daikyu, or traditional longbow? Or are they restricted as well?

I assume crossbows are completely verboten. No matter what they shoot.*

* Some crossbows, called "prodds" shoot clay or metal pellets- basically round "ball" bullets like a smoothbore musket, not bolts aka quarrels.

cheers

eon

re: #100 eon

Found him.

re: #112 infidelia ROFL!
Good morning and yeah, I remember those hearing about those bomb shelters, too!
Still don't know what folks were really planning on, given how long it would be before you could come out safely (assuming it would in fact protect you from any nuclear blast(s)).

re: #114 Geepers I'm doing ok, Geepers! Promises to be a really great weekend down here weather wise.
You got any big plans for the weekend (does your hometown have a parade on Monday?)?

re: #107 wahabicorridor

Thanks for the recommendation! I just placed an order at amazon that came to over $130.00 - and I buy used whenever I can. So you mention this guy's website, but don't give a link.

linky?

Sorry about that, Chief, but if I try to look up a link while I'm composing, my computer dumps my post. Try this;

Edward R. Hamilton

or just type in

www.edwardrhamilton.com

cheers

eon

re: #118 realwest

I'm doing ok, Geepers! Promises to be a really great weekend down here weather wise.
You got any big plans for the weekend (does your hometown have a parade on Monday?)?

They have a parade on Monday goes right by my place. Unfortunately I'll be working at the bookstore on Monday.

re: #102 Geepers

Planning invasions was part of my Zionist training don't ya know. /

I don't dig on swine, but since I know how to cook, carving up an animal for cooking is and eating is in my repertoire. :)

re: #120 infidelia WHAT?! You're working on Memorial Day? Is it one of those chain bookstores or a private, smaller store?

Planetary warming? How about multiple planets experiencing warming - the latest of which is Jupiter.

Jeez, I only have had my gas grill for a few weeks. Pretty powerful stuff that I'm able to not only influence the climate here on our planet, but can change the climate on Mars, Venus, and Jupiter.

I wonder what other factor could cause such significant changes in the Solar system. /

realwest (#118),

Glad to hear it.

Well, working around the house, does that qualify?

Small town parade, I should check it out.

Good morning, everyone. In case anyone is into it, The Dirty Dozen just started on TCM. Kelly's Heroes follows.

It's the dreaded B***rs of no, we won't carry that magazine with the Mo Toon on the cover fame. They only close on Thanksgiving and Christmas. Our is right between two malls which also will be open. There won't be much business so I will probably spend the day rearranging books.

Stanley Cup finals starting tonight. Go Wings!

I'm hosting tonight thanks to the HD TV. That means I got to spruce up this place a bit. Anyone got a 40 yard dumpster I can borrow?

/ a 5 yarder would do.

re: #127 Mich-again

Stanley Cup finals starting tonight. Go Wings!

I'm hosting tonight thanks to the HD TV. That means I got to spruce up this place a bit. Anyone got a 40 yard dumpster I can borrow?

/ a 5 yarder would do.

If I did I'd be using it, heh...

Well, I have to "book", Lizards. Today's agenda includes a preemptive strike; me, my pump sprayer, and some Round-Up vs. crabgrass and what looks suspiciously like kudzu. (It's only supposed to be in the South, but apparently it didn't get the memo.)

Have a great day, Lizards. Stay safe.

cheers

eon

re: #125 Noam Sayin'
HEY NOAM! Great way to start this weekend!
BTW if you (or anyone else) is interested, this is a link to Wiki's page on Memorial Day - it's actually kinda interesting reading: [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

lawhawk (#121),

Planning invasions was part of my Zionist training don't ya know.

And all I got was the sonnet writing course. [ripoff] ;-)

re: #110 wahabicorridor

*smooch*

HEY!

{realwest} *smoochy-smooch-smooch-SMOOOCH*

/that'll learn ya

:P

I'm off to work at the antiques gallery down in Salem, which is crawling with tourists from about now to the end of October. Can't wait for retirement age so I can get back to doing my 'real' work which is antiques and collectibles.

By for now, everyone have a great day!

re: #129 eon

You would have a lot more free time if you lived by my motto. "If it is green and grows it is grass"

re: #126 infidelia Well it's right thoughty of folks to recall the true meaning of Memorial Day that way (not blaming you, a job is a job, and I understand that!).

Good Morning Gentlemen... Ladies.

re: #111 realwest

Doing just fine, sir! Sending out resumes, letters of reference, copies of my NJ State teaching licenses to just about every district here in Bergen County. Going to Staples now to buy large envelopes and then off to the P.O. to mail 'em out. Hope to get a teaching gig for September 2008.

BBL fellow lizards ...

re: #134 Fredlike

"If it is green and grows it is grass"

How odd. My motto is "if it's green and DOESN'T grow, it must be money"

{MISS TRIXIE}

re: #132 Miss Trixie
Now, now ladies, let's get carried away with this! Gets up off the floor, silly assed grin on my face and *smoooches* back to you gorgeous!

It's high time the Israelis tried out this to deal with the incessant rocket and mortar attacks.

There seems to be a whole lot of kanoodling going on here, Real.

You must have something ...

/now I'm really out of here ...

re: #9 galloping granny

Hillary is a socialist, Obama is a Communist and a strawman, and McCain has at least served this nation with honor since he was 17 years old. Our nation is in the gravest danger it has been in in my lifetime. Send him $199 and pull the lever.

Have you ever read this about McCain?.

re: #139 realwest

Now, now ladies, let's get carried away with this! Gets up off the floor, silly assed grin on my face and *smoooches* back to you gorgeous!

HAHA! :D

{wahabbi} Morning, toots! :D

re: #136 ethanxxx Hey there! Good morning to you, too! How are you doing this fine morning?

re: #137 Gang of One See ya Gang of One - good luck!

re: #138 wahabicorridor
ROTF! Love that one!

re: #144 realwest

Hey there! Good morning to you, too! How are you doing this fine morning?

Wet! Hopefully it will burn-off before noon. I guess you guys got rain too, huh?

re: #140 lawhawkGood morning my friend! That's an interesting article! I never realized that Phalanx had been modified to stop artillery shells and "air to ground" rockets.
But it seems to me that someone - either the Israel's or us, have developed an anti-mortar weapon which is specifically designed to knock down enemy mortar rounds, while YOUR counter battery radar enables your mortar units to kill the mofo's who started firing mortars at you in the first place. I wonder if this wouldn't be a better system than Phalanx at knocking down the Pali rockets?

re: #141 Gang of One Huh, I never heard of it being called kanoodling, but I reckon I must have - TWO beautiful ladies greeting me like that is really SPECIAL!

re: #142 bullskin Hey, thank you for that post and link. Thank you very much.

re: #147 ethanxxx No sir, we've been dry (although cloudy last night) for a couple of days now and this weekend is supposed to be truly glorious weather!

HEY ALL Y'ALL - just an idea - if you've got a few spare hours anytime this weekend, why not see if there isn't a VA hospital somewhere near you and go visit some wounded/sick veterans. I know Memorial Day is to honor all those who've died in the service of our country, but those folks hospitalized in the VA system could use some cheering up on this truly special weekend.

Huh - last FIVE posts were from me?!? Hello out there, can anyone hear me?! LOL!

re: #148 realwest

You got me on that. The Israelis have got to do more than simply engage in counter battery fire each time the Palestinians fire on the Israelis. That's fighting the symptoms, not the cause - which is the Hamas thugocracy operating in Gaza. Deal with them, the leaders and their supply lines along with the other terror groups operating in Gaza, and that's when the mortar and rocket fire will stop. You have to defeat them, not simply allow for hudnas and ceasefires, which only enable the terrorists to claim victory and regroup and rearm for the next battle on their terms.

re: #154 lawhawk You are of course correct, but while Olmert is PM, I'd want to have the IDF investigate the usefullness of those Phalanx or Counter-Mortar weapons really quickly.
Cause, let's face it, Olmert ain't ever gonna do the right thing here.

*sigh*

ANOTHER book to add to the list.

Austerity Britian

“Austerity”—a condition and set of policies dictated by the government’s need, owing to a gigantic balance-of-payments deficit with the United States, to limit consumption to wartime levels and divert labor and material to the export trade—meant a home front without a war. Food, clothing, and coal would now in some cases be even more sparingly apportioned than they had been when the war was on; the British would not go completely “off ration” until 1954. With wit and ingenuity, Kynaston mines opinion surveys, radio shows, advertising slogans, parliamentary reports, and above all letters, diaries, and memoirs to evoke the gray tinge that permeated postwar life—the shabby frocks, the sallow faces, the grubby train compartments, the dreary meals (“all winter greens and root vegetables and hamburgers made of grated potato and oatmeal and just a little meat,” the food writer Marguerite Patten recalled).

need more coffee - BBIAM

lawhawk (#154),

The Israelis have got to do more than simply engage in counter battery fire each time the Palestinians fire on the Israelis.

At least it would be a step up from their current tactic of hiding in th basement.

Morning all.

This was too good to pass up.

St. Paul Saints' 'bobblefoot' lampoons Larry Craig

While not saying it directly, the St. Paul Saints are having fun with Idaho Sen. Larry Craig's incident at Minneapolis/St. Paul Airport by offering a bathroom-stall "bobblefoot" giveaway for the first 2,500 fans at Sunday's game at Midway Stadium against Fort Worth.

A foot "peaks out of the bottom (of the stall) and 'taps' up and down," the Saints said in a statement. The Saints scheduled the promotion on National Tap Dance Day.

Craig pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct last year after allegedly soliciting sex from an undercover police officer, though Craig later tried to get his plea overturned. Craig's foot tapping in the bathroom stall was considered one of the signals that he wanted sex.

Need more coffee? [Link: www.imeem.com...]

Here in Illinois, our state representatives will get an 11.7% pay raise. Last year they only got a 10% hike. The only way they won't get the raise is if they pass a bill against it!

Rickey Herndon (District of Obama) and Emil Jones (Owner of Obama), say that they can't find the time to write up a bill against that pay raise. Too many other important things they are working on.

Meanwhile, the corruption train runs wildly at City Hall in Chicago. The real reason Obama has so much support in Illinois is that they want to see the Federal Prosecutor changed. Patrick Fitzgerald has continually found corruption cases in this state-and Rezco is cutting it really close.

Obama had to run for President to try and save the gravy train for his boys in Illinois.

So, great, Hillary made the same RFK statement in March.

Well, nobody ever said originality was one of her virtues - she had repeated her Bosnia sniper remarks about six times, before they finally caught up with her, too.

re: #156 wahabicorridor

*sigh*

ANOTHER book to add to the list.

Austerity Britian

need more coffee - BBIAM

I can't imagine how today's softies in the West would react to such a life

Well since WLGF seems to be (I hope) temporarily off line, let's try some of this to wake everyone up:
[Link: www.imeem.com...]

re: #160 pittrader1988

I don't mean to demean the venality in Illinois, but you should see what's going on in the EU. MEPs get these LAVISH expense accounts - housing, travel, etc. - and they refuse to make their expenditures public. Not to mention that not a few of them have a very bad habit of putting family members on the payroll.

re: #163 realwest

Well since WLGF seems to be (I hope) temporarily off line, let's try some of this to wake everyone up:
[Link: www.imeem.com...]

Mornings just aren't the same.

re: #165 JCM Yeah, I know, but I'm trying, damnit!

Gas prices: yes, I know that they're unusally high in the U.S., but in the UK it's $10 a gallon.

And their mass transit sucks.

re: #166 realwest

Yeah, I know, but I'm trying, damnit!

*sigh*

Don't put too much of on yourself.

It is a great day !
I am on vacation this week and Life is on hold so the Fun will not be interrupted
I Dont Care

re: #169 LeftJustAintRight

It is a great day !
I am on vacation this week and Life is on hold so the Fun will not be interrupted
I Dont Care

*sticks tongue out*

Big plans or just kickin' back?

re: #160 pittrader1988

No kiddin'! I live in that fetid political swamp as well - news this morning that one of Blagojowick's cronies will get almost a $40K/year bump in pension for 8 weeks "work." Here, where the socialist teacher's unions don't pay into Social Security but receive more than lavish pensions. From an article I read, the land o' Lincoln is looking at almost a trillion in unfunded liabilities over the next 40 years.

How dare Quayle talk about Obama like this!

Just like Bush!

re: #168 JCM No, I'm not but ever since I "joined" Imeem (for free, btw) and can search out all the songs I'd like to hear, I'm just doing more of it.
But y'all might want to try Happy Birthday, Bobby Z
over at [Link: babbazeesbrain.blogspot.com...]

re: #171 apb1

No kiddin'! I live in that fetid political swamp as well - news this morning that one of Blagojowick's cronies will get almost a $40K/year bump in pension for 8 weeks "work." Here, where the socialist teacher's unions don't pay into Social Security but receive more than lavish pensions. From an article I read, the land o' Lincoln is looking at almost a trillion in unfunded liabilities over the next 40 years.

Don't resist, fork over you wallet now.

Why is it when we look at government basics, public safety and infrastructure it's "mortgaging" our children's future. However socialist ponzi schemes are necessary investments in the future.

A pox on all Gramscian Whores.

re: #170 JCM

Big plans or just kickin' back?

Both kinda
Taking Jessica and her friend to Disney World for the week
I bet I even might have a little FUN
Even thought I hate crowds and most people in general
LOL

re: #174 JCM

Clutch your wallet for dear life whenever these phrases are used:

1. "It's for the children."
2. "As a devoted public servant..."

re: #176 apb1

Clutch your wallet for dear life whenever these phrases are used:

1. "It's for the children."
2. "As a devoted public servant..."

Or the favorite
For the good of all

re: #104 Shay4l

This thead is all over the place! Space colonies, throwing out the bastards, Hillary gaffes.

I have these images of millions of people trying to build log cabins next to each other and eke out a subsitence after a disaster. The biggest danger would be each other.

The trouble with surviving after a disaster is that a lot of stupid people with no survival skills will fight those with survival skills to take their food. Luckily almost anywhere you look in nature, there is something edible and nutritious (or deadly toxic). I just hope I don't have to live off of dandelions and thistles...

My father was paid to build a log cabin in 1976 using only an axe, an adze, a horse, a rope, a grove of pine trees and a creek full of clay. Last I knew, the cabin was still standing. The roof is sagging, though.

re: #9 galloping granny

Hillary is a socialist, Obama is a Communist and a strawman, and McCain has at least served this nation with honor since he was 17 years old. Our nation is in the gravest danger it has been in in my lifetime. Send him $199 and pull the lever.

Gotta disagree with your assessment, Hillary is a communist, Obama is a socialist. All a socialist is, is a communist without a spine. Obama has no spine! sure he is more liberal then Millary, but the lack of a spine is what marks him.
He hopes no one changes their mind when they find out he only votes present on the tough issues.

re: #176 apb1

re: #177 LeftJustAintRight

Mine favorite...
An investment in the future...

re: #177 LeftJustAintRight

And in the true Orwellian twist, the 'good of all' is really the good of the few ...just too many don't pay attention to that detail.

re: #178 David IV of Georgia

The trouble with surviving after a disaster is that a lot of stupid people with no survival skills will fight those with survival skills to take their food.

LOL
Only the strong Survive
I plan on being at the TOP of that food chain
LOL

re: #179 JeremyR Sorry, but I agree with galloping granny's assessment of the situation. Obama is a communist and Hillary is a socialist (or whatever it pays for her to be at any given time).

BBIAW!

re: #180 JCM

re: #177 LeftJustAintRight

Mine favorite...
An investment in the future...

IN 1998 the Manhattan KS school district pushed through a $25 million bond because of increasing enrollment to build three new schools. After the schools were built, enrollment dropped steadily for the next couple years and they closed some schools. Now they are pushing for $99 million in bonds for the children.

I have to run out to my local VFW today. Left them a message yesterday morning about volunteering if they needed some help, but noone called me back. I feel a special urgency to do something more this year for some reason. We shall see. Too many Americans think it's picnic weekend with a day off without giving a thought that real people who live right around them sacrificed so much so we could have our family gatherings, drink our beer, and argue with our idiot BIL who thinks RP is a genius (GAZE).

Enough rambling. Have a great weekend and remind those who are blasse about the weekend what it's all about. They must not be forgotten.

JS-The Forgotten II

Hope you like it !

re: #185 JeremyR

Bonds should be for capital investment, not operational costs - what's the great $99 million scam supposed to produce?

The F-ing Liberal mindset

I vote with my heart cause it makes me feel good
Equality means whats yours is mine
Let the Government handle my problems so I can be free

In reality they are spoiled brats with Me Me Me Me as priority

re: #188 LeftJustAintRight

Great assessment.

re: #183 realwest

Sorry, but I agree with galloping granny's assessment of the situation. Obama is a communist and Hillary is a socialist (or whatever it pays for her to be at any given time).

Both have the same political heritage, Alinsky. HRC is more pragmatic in that she's after the power and ideology can be sacrificed for advancement. BHO is more an ideologue, his father, friends, associates all his life have been hard left.

I'm in with GG and RW on this one.

Have a great day--I've got to start the chores.

re: #183 realwest

Sorry, but I agree with galloping granny's assessment of the situation. Obama is a communist and Hillary is a socialist (or whatever it pays for her to be at any given time).

I'll stick by mine. The only real diffrence between them is that Hillary has voted on tough issues where Obama votes present. He is a spineless coward.
Some people make a large distinction between socialist and communist, but the simple truth is both want the same thing. Comunists are a little braver about it, one is as bad as the other.
No, take that back, the socialist is worse because he will lie to your face much more about his intent.
Either of them would fit flawlessly into a pre 1982 USSR, or present day Cuban government. Neither of them bel;ong in ours.

#182 LeftJustAintRight 5/24/08 7:30:47 am

re: #178 David IV of Georgia

The trouble with surviving after a disaster is that a lot of stupid people with no survival skills will fight those with survival skills to take their food.

LOL
Only the strong Survive
I plan on being at the TOP of that food chain
LOL

_{The trouble with surviving after a disaster is that a lot of stupid people with no survival skills will fight those with survival skills to take their food.}
It is primitive socialism at work—I don't care if you have all the skills and resources, share!

re: #178 David IV of Georgia

The trouble with surviving after a disaster is that a lot of stupid people with no survival skills will fight those with survival skills to take their food.

Not a problem...

re: #194 JCM

Indeed. Leggo my eggo.

re: #187 apb1

Bonds should be for capital investment, not operational costs - what's the great $99 million scam supposed to produce?

Refurbishing the schools that were shuttered four years ago. They have fewer students now then in 1998, and are projecting an increase that is still below what they predicted in 1998.
Scammed by the gov.
Additionally the Riley County comission is planning to create a building board, appoint themselves to it to circumvent state laws on voter approved building. If that passes, I will get royally screwed, because I live in the school district but outside the county. The county board will have authority over municipal and school district buildings as well.

re: #186 mikeinmd From a veteran : Thank you. And if you can't find anyone at the VFW, try going to a VA hospital sometime this weekend - just to say "hi" and "thanks for your service" - I'm going to do that this year cause I do know how much the men who are hospitalized in a VA facility will appreciate it.

re: #195 mikeinmd

Indeed. Leggo my eggo.

"Personal weapons are what raised mankind out of the mud, and the rifle is the queen of personal weapons."
"The rifle is a weapon. Let there be no mistake about that. It is a tool of power, and thus dependent completely upon the moral stature of its user. It is equally useful in securing meat for the table, destroying group enemies on the battlefield, and resisting tyranny. In fact, it is the only means of resisting tyranny, since a citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized."
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."
—Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle

re: #190 JCM

Both have the same political heritage, Alinsky. HRC is more pragmatic in that she's after the power and ideology can be sacrificed for advancement. BHO is more an ideologue, his father, friends, associates all his life have been hard left.

I'm in with GG and RW on this one.

I agree that BHussein is worse, but my distinction between comunism and socialism is that socialist lack the spine (used to say balls) to tell you to your face that they intend to screw you out of everything you have. With socialists its slower and you feel it less, but in the end, its all gone.

People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history.

Well, I did partake in a high school graduation party that was held in the hotel right next to a coup that was preparing for its staging...

re: #142 bullskin

Have you ever read this about McCain?.

I read this article more than a week ago. The same day, there was an extensive interview with Bud Day on FNC. I cannot recall the correspondent, as I was so transfixed on Bud and his story. Basically, the only time McCain ever talks about his time in the Hanoi Hilton is in his books(great reads!), so to have a man like Bud Day expand on those themes was quite illuminating. Also, anyone who has teen aged boys should use McCain's books as learning tools. I did that with my sons (Faith of My Fathers) and my Beloved paid each of them $100 bucks to read "The Godfather". It's called a well-rounded education, people!

re: #198 JCM

"Personal weapons are what raised mankind out of the mud, and the rifle is the queen of personal weapons."
"The rifle is a weapon. Let there be no mistake about that. It is a tool of power, and thus dependent completely upon the moral stature of its user. It is equally useful in securing meat for the table, destroying group enemies on the battlefield, and resisting tyranny. In fact, it is the only means of resisting tyranny, since a citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized."
"The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles."
—Jeff Cooper, The Art of the Rifle

Some times I wonder if Jeff was wrong in that it seems there are more evil men then good.

re: #6 kwrxxx

You don't post often but, when you do, it's a doozy.

Mark Steyn nails it:

The modern Democratic party is like Islam: You're either a believer or an apostate. Lieberman is an apostate.

Picking a running mate.

re: #196 JeremyR

Shame. What really astounds me is the number of people who don't care to familiarize themselves with local issues that are costing them (or are GOING to cost them) a bleeding fortune.

The tough part is when the local area hits the tipping point. IL has passed the point where the voters "on the take" outnumber any others; we get the government we now deserve - graft and nepotism are rampant.

Our kids will both be in college this fall (freshman, junior). It *may* be time to start looking into the other lower 48...

re: #204 FrogMarch

Maybe Lieberman's just performing Democrat taqqiya?

re: #203 MandyManners

You don't post often but, when you do, it's a doozy.

Scary huh? I've heard mention of Saddams worship of Hitler before.
al-Husseini is a very bad dude.

Morning all,
What is the best virus protection software? I've had the AVG free version and need to change or upgrade.
Any recommendations?

re: #3 kwrxxx

Icon of Evil: Hitler's Mufti & the rise of Radical Islam New book due out by June 24th, 2008 at amazon.com.

Preliminary reading for the above.

re: #197 realwestPIMF Men and Women (sorry y'all, but when I served in the Army, there were no female soldiers and I tend to forget that these days!).

re: #197 realwest

Hey, that's a terrific idea, also !

Need to see what's near me, but I really like that. I'll see if I can do that tomorrow if the VFW needs any help on Monday.

Thanks for that ! and Thank YOU for your service.

re: #201 ishabibble

I read this article more than a week ago. The same day, there was an extensive interview with Bud Day on FNC. I cannot recall the correspondent, as I was so transfixed on Bud and his story. Basically, the only time McCain ever talks about his time in the Hanoi Hilton is in his books(great reads!), so to have a man like Bud Day expand on those themes was quite illuminating. Also, anyone who has teen aged boys should use McCain's books as learning tools. I did that with my sons (Faith of My Fathers) and my Beloved paid each of them $100 bucks to read "The Godfather". It's called a well-rounded education, people!

That's one of the main reasons I don't get up in arms over McCain.

His core is solid, when it comes down the rock and the hard place, he'll do the right thing.

Is he my first choice? Not by a long shot. His frequent pandering drives me nuts. In the moment of crisis McCain will act decisively and correctly, HRC will stick a finger in the wind, BHO will whine about his waffle.

re: #208 newsjunkie_ky

They have 8.0 Free out. I took the advice of a couple lizards and installed Spybot Search & Destroy, and as long as you run regular scans and updates your computer should be fine.

I do also recommend CCleaner for removing temporary files though you'll still need Disk Cleanup if you'd like to remove excess Restore Points.

People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history.

— Dan Quayle

People who are intelligent can spell one word wrong and then be beaten over the head with it forever if they are Republican.

Kansas

Greensburg Kansas got hit again last night. No damage reported, but a twister went over again, touching down.
Kansas, Oklahoma and trailer parks, the three places you don't want to be when tornados hit.

re: #214 kansas

People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history.

— Dan Quayle

People who are intelligent can spell one word wrong and then be beaten over the head with it forever if they are Republican.

Kansas

BINGO ,, lets see if after 20 years anyone will be talking about how many states BHO thinks are in the union

re: #208 newsjunkie_ky
Morning to you! LOTS of folks out here will disagree with me, and I'm not techy oriented, but I use Symantec (Norton) Internet Security - has firewall, anti-virus, anti-pop-up and will scan your incoming e-mail for you.
I also use Spyware Doctor for Ad-Aware and Malware protection.
As I said, a lot of folks will disagree with me, but for over 15 months now of near daily use, I've had no viruses, trojans, spyware, or malware using that combo.

re: #202 JeremyR

Some times I wonder if Jeff was wrong in that it seems there are more evil men then good.

It may seem that way. Many people are passive.

Honor never grows old, and honor rejoices the heart of age. It does so because honor is, finally, about defending those noble and worthy things that deserve defending, even if it comes at a high cost. In our time, that may mean social disapproval, public scorn, hardship, persecution, or as always,even death itself. The question remains: What is worth defending? What is worth dying for? What is worth living for? - William J. Bennett - in a lecture to the United States Naval Academy November 24, 1997

One Vietnam veteran, an old retired colonel, once said this to me:

"Most of the people in our society are sheep. They are kind, gentle, productive creatures who can only hurt one another by accident." This is true. Remember, the murder rate is six per 100,000 per year, and the aggravated assault rate is four per 1,000 per year. What this means is that the vast majority of Americans are not inclined to hurt one another. Some estimates say that two million Americans are victims of violent crimes every year, a tragic, staggering number, perhaps an all-time record rate of violent crime. But there are almost 300 million Americans, which means that the odds of being a victim of violent crime is considerably less than one in a hundred on any given year. Furthermore, since many violent crimes are committed by repeat offenders, the actual number of violent citizens is considerably less than two million.

Thus there is a paradox, and we must grasp both ends of the situation: We may well be in the most violent times in history, but violence is still remarkably rare. This is because most citizens are kind, decent people who are not capable of hurting each other, except by accident or under extreme provocation. They are sheep.

I mean nothing negative by calling them sheep. To me it is like the pretty, blue robin's egg. Inside it is soft and gooey but someday it will grow into something wonderful. But the egg cannot survive without its hard blue shell. Police officers, soldiers, and other warriors are like that shell, and someday the civilization they protect will grow into something wonderful.? For now, though, they need warriors to protect them from the predators.

"Then there are the wolves," the old war veteran said, "and the wolves feed on the sheep without mercy." Do you believe there are wolves out there who will feed on the flock without mercy? You better believe it. There are evil men in this world and they are capable of evil deeds. The moment you forget that or pretend it is not so, you become a sheep. There is no safety in denial.

"Then there are sheepdogs," he went on, "and I'm a sheepdog. I live to protect the flock and confront the wolf."

Dave Grossman, author of "On Killing" and the "

Bullet Proof Mind.

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re: #212 JCM Another great post.
Thank you.

re: #207 JeremyR

Scary huh? I've heard mention of Saddams worship of Hitler before.
al-Husseini is a very bad dude.

Learning more about the haj was my first mission here.

re: #210 realwest

PIMF Men and Women (sorry y'all, but when I served in the Army, there were no female soldiers and I tend to forget that these days!).

When did you serve?

re: #213 laZardo
Thanks.

re: #221 JeremyR 1968-1970. US Army, 11-Bravo (Infantry).

re: #220 MandyManners
Hey, good morning Mandy - how are you this morning?
Any idea of when you're gonna get your blog up and running?

re: #217 realwest

Norton IS caused my computer to take at least 5 minutes just to start up. =_= And it couldn't get rid of Vundo when my compy caught it last July...but then again maybe it was because I was using the 2005 version and getting a new, original version here costs $100 at least...

re: #223 realwest

Thank you for your service in keeping us safe.

re: #216 sattv4u2

BINGO ,, lets see if after 20 years anyone will be talking about how many states BHO thinks are in the union

After Obama let's see how many States are left in the Union.

re: #225 laZardo What is Vundo?! And you can buy Norton Internet Security through Symantic's website for less than $100!

re: #217 realwest

Thanks, I'm not techy at all.
AVG says free 8.0 or buy it for 54.99 and then they had on another $10. I don't like that. Put the whole price up front. That just pissed me off.

re: #220 MandyManners

Learning more about the haj was my first mission here.

research the Grand Mufti's (Haj Muhammed Amin al-Husseini) ties to Hitler. [Link: www.palestinefacts.org...]

Hitler allowed him to have an SS unit made up entirely of (wait for it) MUSLIMS

from the link; The Mufti was one of the initiators of the systematic extermination of European Jewry and had been a collaborator and adviser of Eichmann and Himmler in the execution of this plan. ... He was one of Eichmann's best friends and had constantly incited him to accelerate the extermination measures. I heard him say, accompanied by Eichmann, he had visited incognito the gas chamber of Auschwitz.

Morning Lizards, hope all is well and a happy Memorial Day.

Still a bit brisk here in NJ, but Junior is badgering me to get in the pool already. Hopefully warms up some more the next 48 hours.

Been so cool this month I notice Algore hasn't opened his piehole to lecture us much.

re: #229 newsjunkie_ky

At least 8.0 doesn't annoy you with pop-up windows while it's running on the task bar...

re: #228 realwest

Vundo aka Virtumonde is an annoying little bug that causes the download of spyware that tells you that you have spyware thus causing you to download phoney anti-spyware apps that - depending on the user's stupidity - causes them to download even more.

It ground my family's McAfee desktop to a halt, so I tore out McAfee and gave them the 1-2 as prescribed above, and it's all fine now.

As for buying it online, I don't have that kind of money in my US account ever since I moved back here (long story, involves the nuthouse and overbearing parents conspiring with relatives) and the Philippines does not have compatible checking cards or credit cards with a minimum deposit way beyond what I can afford. ;_;

re: #229 newsjunkie_ky

Thanks, I'm not techy at all.
AVG says free 8.0 or buy it for 54.99 and then they had on another $10. I don't like that. Put the whole price up front. That just pissed me off.

Me too. That happened to me yesterday and I'm not impress. But what can you do? Security is necessary.

re: #224 realwest

I'm working on it more.

re: #226 apb1 You're welcome but I wasn't any kinda hero, just did my job, kept my head down and moved fast!

re: #230 sattv4u2

research the Grand Mufti's (Haj Muhammed Amin al-Husseini) ties to Hitler. [Link: www.palestinefacts.org...]

Hitler allowed him to have an SS unit made up entirely of (wait for it) MUSLIMS

from the link; The Mufti was one of the initiators of the systematic extermination of European Jewry and had been a collaborator and adviser of Eichmann and Himmler in the execution of this plan. ... He was one of Eichmann's best friends and had constantly incited him to accelerate the extermination measures. I heard him say, accompanied by Eichmann, he had visited incognito the gas chamber of Auschwitz.

Thanks! I think I already have that one but I saved it just in case I don't.

re: #230 sattv4u2

Wait, I thought the Ayatollahs said the Holocaust never happened!

/mmm, historical memory holes...

PC Security.

I use Symantec on my PCs. I have it set to update definitions and scan in the early morning.

MacOS / Linux and Unix distros no vrius protection used.

re: #236 MandyManners
Funny how stuff like this just disappears down the memory hole of the msm. Not.

re: #235 realwest

Dude - that IS a hero! I'm just enjoying the fruits of your effort - life in the greatest country on the planet!

Well all Y'all - Sorry but I gotta hop - cab here to take Mom and me to the VA hospital (just to visit some folks who don't get many visitors).
Hope you all have a GREAT DAY and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

re: #208 newsjunkie_ky

I just "upgraded' from the AVG free version to the latest AVG frre version; they make it appear that you must pay but the fine print tells you otherwise. Btw, the latest AVG free version seems to work just fine. And, you don't have to pay for it.

re: #241 realwest

Cheers mate.

re: #212 JCM

Agreed.

gotta hop, lizards! Have a great day!

The Onion has a headline: Nightmare Ticket: Clinton, McCain AND Obama.
It's pretty funny!

re: #239 pingjockey

Funny how stuff like this just disappears down the memory hole of the msm. Not.

This is not news so the MSM wouldn't even notice it.

re: #235 realwest

You're welcome but I wasn't any kinda hero, just did my job, kept my head down and moved fast!

Real,

Any leg who was in country is a hero in my book. All of our combat vets are heros. Everyone stood up and answered the call of duty is owed a debt by the rest of us, included those of us who served but never saw the elephant.

Thank you. For me and my children who live safe and secure, I thank you. All our vets, especially the combat vets, thank you.

And this weekend to remember all those who gave their last full measure for all of us.

Thank you.

re: #223 realwest

1968-1970. US Army, 11-Bravo (Infantry).

You were in about the same time my brothers were. As the baby of the family, I didn't join until 1979. Started out as 31V in an infantry unit.

Y'all take a moment this weekend and give a little thought for those who have gone before and those serving now please. Did my duty Thursday night. Carried the colors in our local Memorial Day Parade. Pretty funny, color guard from Fairchild AFB in Spokane in front of us, all perfect and 4.0 and here are three of us behind, 2 Vietnam Vets and me, the youngest at 49 trying to keep in step! Always a good crowd in Chelan and very, very supportive. Will give strong men tears.

re: #242 Pshawalaw

Thanks. How did you actually find the free version? Everytime I clicked download it took me to some other page still trying to sell me the package.

A mugger sticks a gun into the ribs of this guy and says "Give me all your money!"
The guy says "You can't do this to me, I'm a Congressman"
Then the mugger says "Alright , then give me al MY money"

Good Morning Lizards! It's glorious in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland this morning.

Only here for a short while, so quick, what are we talking about?

And how are you-all this morning?

re: #253 ggt

Good Morning Lizards! It's glorious in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland this morning.

Only here for a short while, so quick, what are we talking about?

And how are you-all this morning?

We were talking about YOU ,, now that you're here, we'll have to stop ,,, thanks a pantload for killing the thread !

re: #253 ggt
Anything and everything. Good am to you. How goes the trial of the mayor or whoever or is that in Detroit?

re: #251 newsjunkie_ky

Here:

[Link: free.grisoft.com...]

And just keep following the links that say free, the first one is at the bottom of the first column of the specs graph.

re: #254 sattv4u2

oh, well, I won't be here long. You can resume your regularly scheduled rant shortly ;)

re: #251 newsjunkie_ky

Found it.

There's an eleven in the morning now? Wow, that sucks.

re: #255 pingjockey

Hey ping!

No idea, I've been ignoring the news. Something about spring-time. Instead of listening to drive-time radio, I dusted off some old CD's. Led Zepplin, The Who . . ..

I do know some Chicago Aldermen got put in orange jumpsuits this week.

Daley is fervently praying that Barack get's elected -- in fact, he's banking on it.

re: #258 laZardo