Solar Powered iPhone:
[Link: technology.timesonline.co.uk...]

Yup, because I always leave my cell phone out in the sun to cook?

Okay, now it's BHO's GREAT uncle, and it's Buchenwald.

or the 80's. 70's was yesterday...

re: #1 song_and_dance_man

If you want it to be.

cool! what plat is on ur head?

re: #1 song_and_dance_man

Is this the 60's music thread?

Sure....

Ohhhhh! You meant 1960s.

pimf PLANT dang

re: #3 JCM

Okay, now it's BHO's GREAT uncle, and it's Buchenwald.

Presumably? We still might find his great uncle was shoveling shit in Louisiana?

A few days ago, there was an entry in the links discussing the fact that Obambi could be on drugs. That would certainly explain his now daily gaffes.

Well, either that or his speech writer is one of Rush's secret Operation Chaos operatives.

Repost from tail end of last thread.
Campaign says Obama mistaken on Nazi camp

...The campaign said Tuesday that he named the wrong camp. They said it was actually Buchenwald.

Aides said his grandmother's brother, Charlie Payne, helped liberate a Buchenwald sub-camp in April 1945 as part of the 89th Infantry Division.....

So first it was his grandfather in Auschwitz and Treblinke.
Then it was his uncle in Auschwitz.
Now it's his great uncle in Buchenwald!
His family practically won WWII all by themselves!

re: #6 song_and_dance_man

I'm devoing

OK, tech help if possible. I'm a completely untrained lizard, but I have a pdf I would like to post. I know it's easy, I just don't know how.
Any suggestions?
Thanks

re: #10 Nevergiveup

Presumably? We still might find his great uncle was shoveling shit in Louisiana?

Patton's 761st Tank Brigade (Black) may have been at Buchenwald. Seems to be some dispute whether the 761st was there.

Was BHO's uncle in the 761st?

re: #13 bosforus

Repost from tail end of last thread.
Campaign says Obama mistaken on Nazi camp

So first it was his grandfather in Auschwitz and Treblinke.
Then it was his uncle in Auschwitz.
Now it's his great uncle in Buchenwald!
His family practically won WWII all by themselves!

89th was a white div.
Must be the brother to the grandma under the bus.

"I never worked on a car, but my uncle worked on the design team for the Corvair, so I am pretty familiar with getting dirt under my fingernails and knowing how corporate greed can ruin a good thing."

/Channeling you-know-who-talking-to-gear-heads

60's music...yeah!

campaign spokesman Bill Burton says, his great uncle was a member of the 89th Infantry Division that liberated the Ohrduf camp, part of (sub-camp of) Buchenwald

re: #13 bosforus

Repost from tail end of last thread.
Campaign says Obama mistaken on Nazi camp

So first it was his grandfather in Auschwitz and Treblinke.
Then it was his uncle in Auschwitz.
Now it's his great uncle in Buchenwald!
His family practically won WWII all by themselves!

Well it was actually Buchenwald.. It was Ohrduf which was a work camp administered out of Buchenwald.
[Link: www.89infdivww2.org...]

re: #16 JCM

Patton's 761st Tank Brigade (Black) may have been at Buchenwald. Seems to be some dispute whether the 761st was there.

Was BHO's uncle in the 761st?

No 89th--see my #21 above

re: #17 JCM

And also a correction on my part, in 2002, Obama didn't say his grandfather went into Auschwitz, merely that he heard stories of fellow troops who first entered Auschwitz.

re: #19 ted

no, you may NOT bring Spanky to this thread.....lol

hate that song

Obama must suck at Clue.

re: #21 Nevergiveup

Well it was actually Buchenwald.. It was Ohrduf which was a work camp administered out of Buchenwald.
[Link: www.89infdivww2.org...]

Oops, I meant it was NOT Buchenwald

re: #15 leboaz

OK, tech help if possible. I'm a completely untrained lizard, but I have a pdf I would like to post. I know it's easy, I just don't know how.
Any suggestions?
Thanks

Is it on you're local machine?

Or on a web site?

If on you machine, you have to get it up on the web then link to it.

If it's on the web.

Write you comment.
Go to the link to the pdf, right click, use the "copy link location"
Back to your comment, highlight the text you want to make you link.
Clink the links button (the chain button on the right of five button just above the comment box you are typing in).
Past the link in the dialog box that pops up.

Submit comment.

Flash!

This just in:

Obama's great-great-great grandfather Zeke helped liberate Fort Sumter.

Woodcuts at 11!

Zappa at the BBC 1968 during his great 50's phase.

In the Sky

Barry's Play Uncle, Saddam Ishkabibble, was in the 432nd Underwater Messkit Repair Battalion.

re: #25 mikeinmd

Obama must suck at Clue.

We'd need to give him one to see if he does suck at it.

re: #25 mikeinmd

Obama must suck at Clue.

And being a Presidential candidate... good thing he has help!

re: #31 Neo Con since 9-11

Perhaps he should buy the game?

re: #31 Neo Con since 9-11

We'd need to give him one to see if he does suck at it.

Have fun with that. The rest of us will be choppin' down trees and building engines.
:)

Tom Principato Band: Tango'd up in the Blues

re: #25 mikeinmd

Obama must suck at Clue.

/grandma, under the bus, with the flag pin

I haven't felt this good since my great uncle liberated Sharpesburg from those damn yankees..... oh, wait. It was my uncles brother in laws cousin on his mothers side and it was Shiloh.

re: #27 JCM

Thanks. It's on my machine, so I'll find a way to get it on the web.
I was thinking I could email it to Charles, or you, or another wizardlizard and that way it could get put on the web. Sound plausable?

Aushwitz, Buchenwald, Dachau, what's the difference.

It's been scientifically proven the holocaust could not happen.

The IAEA is concerned about Iran. And this is suddenly Brand New Important News? International Pressure Building? EU to offer incentives? I bet most of these people are Ivy League grads. You don't get this smart just by accident?

re: #31 Neo Con since 9-11

We'd need to give him one to see if he does suck at it.

Obama gets Col. Mustard and Mean Mr. Mustard confused.

FYI - New Indiana Jones movie is not worth $7.50 (or whatever your showplace charges).

I kept waiting for it to get better..I waited...and waited...and waited...then it ended.

Ha! This is cool. I've never seen a helmet like this.

A crew member of a U.S. military Black Hawk helicopter wears a helmet painted with a skull at LZ Washington helipad in the fortified Green Zone in Baghdad May 26, 2008.
REUTERS/Erik de Castro (IRAQ)

Of course, they're probably wanting to show how scary and evil our troops are. But it just comes across as cool, to me.

re: #36 Killian Bundy

Heh.

"Red on Red" fratricide in Iraq

no one injured.....

re: #42 see bs

FYI - New Indiana Jones movie is not worth $7.50 (or whatever your showplace charges).

I kept waiting for it to get better..I waited...and waited...and waited...then it ended.

Kinda like how the Cub's baseball season usually ends I guess? Sorry couldn't resist.

re: #39 JCM

It's been scientifically proven the holocaust could not happen.

Ahmadinejad's Razor

re: #31 Neo Con since 9-11

We'd need to give him one to see if he does suck at it.

can we issue it to him via a Clue by Four?

re: #38 leboaz

Thanks. It's on my machine, so I'll find a way to get it on the web.
I was thinking I could email it to Charles, or you, or another wizardlizard and that way it could get put on the web. Sound plausable?

Send it on to Charles.

re: #45 redc1c4

Those crazy "militants"!

Buchenwald was liberated by the 442 and 552 Artillery, I think. The 86th was in vicinity. The Captain for the 552 ordered the Mayor of the town to send food ASAP, got resistence. I believe i read in our local paper the 442 cut the locks to the gate. The Jewish prisoners could not grasp the Japanese (Americans) in American Army uniforms for the first few minutes.

re: #24 jjmckay1216

no, you may NOT bring Spanky to this thread.....lol

hate that song

?

re: #43 gop_patriot

Ha! This is cool. I've never seen a helmet like this.

Of course, they're probably wanting to show how scary and evil our troops are. But it just comes across as cool, to me.

Get the skeered in 'em!

re: #42 see bs

Was going to take mini me to see that sometime this week. Maybe we'll see something else...

Obama said. “Because our individual salvation depends on collective salvation."
It's time to ask Karl Marx into your heart and accept him as your personal Saviour.

For the sake of us all:
NObama

Heading for home, it only feels like "at last."

Take care, lizards.

re: #46 Nevergiveup

Kinda like how the Cub's baseball season usually ends I guess? Sorry couldn't resist.

Cruel. Very cruel.
Possibly a hate crime.

(Is Cubbomania a certified condition under the ADA yet?)

re: #57 wolfie

Cruel. Very cruel.
Possibly a hate crime.

(Is Cubbomania a certified condition under the ADA yet?)

no, but being a Cubs fan means you're certifiable......... %-)

/white smoke

re: #55 IslandLibertarian

Obama said. “Because our individual salvation depends on collective salvation."
It's time to ask Karl Marx into your heart and accept him as your personal Saviour.

For the sake of us all:
NObama

NOBAMA

re: #41 USBeast

Obama gets Col. Mustard and Mean Mr. Mustard confused.

That is because Col. Mustard was his Uncle that was in the Soviet Red Army that liberated Aushwicz and Mean Mr Mustard was his Great Uncle that beat Nikolei Volkoff to win the WWF Intercontinental Championship. Not necessarily two sides of the same coin.

re: #36 Killian Bundy

/grandma, under the bus, with the flag pin

Oh, that's marvelous!

When is the general public going to start fact checking everything that pops out of Obama-boner's mouth? It can't be soon enough for me!

Ok, so a friend of mine was asked for 5 reasons (excluding Israel) why one shouldn't vote for Obama.

he could only come up with 4.

1.FORIEGN POLICY: He is naive when it comes to what the World is really like. His desire to just sit down with leaders like Achmadinajad (of Iran) and somehow change his mind by just speaking to him is naive, dangerous and only bolsters those evil leaders' standing in the world

2. POLITICAL EXTREMIST: He is the most liberal member of the senate.

3. TAXES & ROLE OF GOVERNMENT: It is not hidden, as it is a central tenant to his campaign, that Obama wishes to raise taxes, and use the money to provide more entitlements

4. OBAMAS FRIENDS.

Suggestions.

re: #19 ted

Great tune! I see your tune and raise you this!

re: #62 Wilderstad

When is the general public going to start fact checking everything that pops out of Obama-boner's mouth? It can't be soon enough for me!

Isn't that our job?

So Obama goes to a church and does not listen to the pastor. It also seems that his uncle was not listened to either. Gee, Maybe Obama is more 'typical white' person in him than originally thought. Quick, check for the Barry Manilow records in his collection!

re: #62 Wilderstad

When is the general public going to start fact checking everything that pops out of Obama-boner's mouth? It can't be soon enough for me!

that would certainly be a "Change!".............

How about a Zydeco version of a Hendrix song?

I wish the people who are hell bent on voting for him no matter what would get a clue.

re: #62 Wilderstad

When is the general public going to start fact checking everything that pops out of Obama-boner's mouth? It can't be soon enough for me!

Problem is he rarely dabbles in facts. When he does you get Americans liberating Poland and 57 states.

"Hope" and "Change" are hard to fact check.

re: #63 WrathofG-d

Ok, so a friend of mine was asked for 5 reasons (excluding Israel) why one shouldn't vote for Obama.

he could only come up with 4.

1.FORIEGN POLICY: He is naive when it comes to what the World is really like. His desire to just sit down with leaders like Achmadinajad (of Iran) and somehow change his mind by just speaking to him is naive, dangerous and only bolsters those evil leaders' standing in the world

2. POLITICAL EXTREMIST: He is the most liberal member of the senate.

3. TAXES & ROLE OF GOVERNMENT: It is not hidden, as it is a central tenant to his campaign, that Obama wishes to raise taxes, and use the money to provide more entitlements

4. OBAMAS FRIENDS.

Suggestions.

Trade Policies

Here's one for BHO and the poor uncle in the attic.
(caution: vile language)

re: #63 WrathofG-d
Do he want universal health care?

re: #71 redc1c4

Could you give me a 4 liner on it?

re: #54 mikeinmd

Was going to take mini me to see that sometime this week. Maybe we'll see something else...

My kids (aged 12 thru 17) liked it, but they never saw the original ones. Mr. Wolf thought it was so-so.

All six of went to see Prince Caspian and enjoyed it. I thought it was better than the first Narnia one, BTW.

re: #43 gop_patriot

Ha! This is cool. I've never seen a helmet like this.

Of course, they're probably wanting to show how scary and evil our troops are. But it just comes across as cool, to me.

Definitely Megadeth!

re: #63 WrathofG-d

Ok, so a friend of mine was asked for 5 reasons (excluding Israel) why one shouldn't vote for Obama.

he could only come up with 4.

1.FORIEGN POLICY: He is naive when it comes to what the World is really like. His desire to just sit down with leaders like Achmadinajad (of Iran) and somehow change his mind by just speaking to him is naive, dangerous and only bolsters those evil leaders' standing in the world

2. POLITICAL EXTREMIST: He is the most liberal member of the senate.

3. TAXES & ROLE OF GOVERNMENT: It is not hidden, as it is a central tenant to his campaign, that Obama wishes to raise taxes, and use the money to provide more entitlements

4. OBAMAS FRIENDS.

Suggestions.

Experience
His own words

What's up with Lieberman referring to Hagee as like "Moses"?

Hagee is the one who reckon's Hitler was all part of God's plan right?

And Liberman loves this guy...talk about a self-loathing Jew....

re: #73 snowcrash

That was included in the "Taxes and Role Of Government" section.

Mock if you want to. It is a fact that Obamas great great uncle Barack Hussein Edison invented the light bulb.

The Day Hillary Tried To Run Over Jimmy Carter

re: #63 WrathofG-d

Inexperience? Check his voting record in Illinois and in the Senate..?

Empty suit, words are empty and meaningless?

Arrogant and condescending to those very people he claims to want to represent? ARGH

I put too much dressing on my salad. Needless to say, I regret it with each bite.

re: #63 WrathofG-d

He is a freak en lier!
He belongs to a racist church.
His choice in women.
Did I mention his choice in women?

re: #63 WrathofG-d

Ok, so a friend of mine was asked for 5 reasons (excluding Israel) why one shouldn't vote for Obama.

he could only come up with 4.

1.FORIEGN POLICY: He is naive when it comes to what the World is really like. His desire to just sit down with leaders like Achmadinajad (of Iran) and somehow change his mind by just speaking to him is naive, dangerous and only bolsters those evil leaders' standing in the world

2. POLITICAL EXTREMIST: He is the most liberal member of the senate.

3. TAXES & ROLE OF GOVERNMENT: It is not hidden, as it is a central tenant to his campaign, that Obama wishes to raise taxes, and use the money to provide more entitlements

4. OBAMAS FRIENDS.

Suggestions.

I would like to know where all of his $$ is coming from too. You know that it cannot be from his drug addled new college groupies and the libtard "intelligencia". Foreign $$ in $200 bundles?

re: #58 redc1c4

no, but being a Cubs fan means you're certifiable......... %-)

/white smoke

Yes. Mr. Wolf has been certifable for years, but as long as he doesn't eat the drapes, I'll let it pass.

How 'bout this one?

Can you tell I'm a Booker T. fan? LOL

re: #59 JCM

NOBAMA

I like it, but my car would be keyed minutes after putting it on the bumper.

Thinking about ZerObama
That might confuse them.

re: #54 mikeinmd

I'm sure the kiddies would like it, but either see it early for the reduced price or see Iron Man (quite good).

I love Raiders and Last Crusade, but this was so over the top unbelievable... I actually booed at the end of the movie. If you do see it, suspend your sense of reality...I mean really suspend it.

Hey the Cubbies can still win it all! Evey team has a bad century now and then :)

re: #82 gop_patriot

Yes, the "empty suit". That would have been good to include. Not sure how one would encapsule it in a short paragraph...but that is a good one.

re: #84 Nevergiveup

You get the wife you deserve. :)

Repost from tail end of last thread.
Campaign says Obama mistaken on Nazi camp

...The campaign said Tuesday that he named the wrong camp. They said it was actually Buchenwald.
Aides said his grandmother's brother, Charlie Payne, helped liberate a Buchenwald sub-camp in April 1945 as part of the 89th Infantry Division.....

Hmmmmm...I seem to remember predicting THIS EXACT RESULT a couple of threads ago, but no one would listen. Sigh, when will you ever learn.

/end shameless self promotion

re: #85 Truck Monkey

George Sorros!

re: #63 WrathofG-d

The #1 reason why we should vote for him is because he is black. John effin Kerry said so.

Drudge has posted this on the latest ObamaGaffe(r)

Campaign says Obama mistaken on Nazi camp

re: #63 WrathofG-d

Ok, so a friend of mine was asked for 5 reasons (excluding Israel) why one shouldn't vote for Obama.

he could only come up with 4.

1.FORIEGN POLICY: He is naive when it comes to what the World is really like. His desire to just sit down with leaders like Achmadinajad (of Iran) and somehow change his mind by just speaking to him is naive, dangerous and only bolsters those evil leaders' standing in the world

2. POLITICAL EXTREMIST: He is the most liberal member of the senate.

3. TAXES & ROLE OF GOVERNMENT: It is not hidden, as it is a central tenant to his campaign, that Obama wishes to raise taxes, and use the money to provide more entitlements

4. OBAMAS FRIENDS.

Suggestions.

5. Black Liberation Theology (BLT!...whatever THAT is.) / the whole black victimhood thing.

OK, I'll stop now. I guess today's posters are more interested in current events than 60's music. Sorry!

re: #63 WrathofG-d

Ok, so a friend of mine was asked for 5 reasons (excluding Israel) why one shouldn't vote for Obama.

he could only come up with 4.

1.FORIEGN POLICY: He is naive when it comes to what the World is really like. His desire to just sit down with leaders like Achmadinajad (of Iran) and somehow change his mind by just speaking to him is naive, dangerous and only bolsters those evil leaders' standing in the world

2. POLITICAL EXTREMIST: He is the most liberal member of the senate.

3. TAXES & ROLE OF GOVERNMENT: It is not hidden, as it is a central tenant to his campaign, that Obama wishes to raise taxes, and use the money to provide more entitlements

4. OBAMAS FRIENDS.

Suggestions.

Um . . .

/JUDGES!

re: #86 wolfie

I'd better get dinner on or he will eat the drapes.

Okay, since it's '60s, how's this for an Obama campaign song?

re: #77 JCM

Experience
His own words

Experience -- He was a low ranking Illinois legislature. He isa first term Junior Senator. His experience is as an Alinsky community organizer.

His own words -- He show a profound lack of understanding of basic historical facts. He is hypersensitive when this is pointed out. This lack of historical context means he has not learned or understands the lessons of history. The next president will have to make decision the require an understand of history, culture, religion, and the will of tyranny he has not demonstrated any understand of these subjects.

re: #86 wolfie

Yes. Mr. Wolf has been certifable for years, but as long as he doesn't eat the drapes, I'll let it pass.

Those who the gods would make mad, they first mke Cubs fans.

re: #91 yitzy

Hmmmmm...I seem to remember predicting THIS EXACT RESULT a couple of threads ago, but no one would listen. Sigh, when will you ever learn.

/end shameless self promotion

But they still have the WRONG camp: Ohrdruf

[Link: www.89infdivww2.org...]

re: #90 WrathofG-d

You get the wife you deserve. :)

Thank goodness you are wrong, or I'd be married to a missing link. LOL.

# 91 Y, hey, I got it too!

re: #63 WrathofG-d

Ok, so a friend of mine was asked for 5 reasons (excluding Israel) why one shouldn't vote for Obama.

he could only come up with 4.

1.FORIEGN POLICY: He is naive when it comes to what the World is really like. His desire to just sit down with leaders like Achmadinajad (of Iran) and somehow change his mind by just speaking to him is naive, dangerous and only bolsters those evil leaders' standing in the world

2. POLITICAL EXTREMIST: He is the most liberal member of the senate.

3. TAXES & ROLE OF GOVERNMENT: It is not hidden, as it is a central tenant to his campaign, that Obama wishes to raise taxes, and use the money to provide more entitlements

4. OBAMAS FRIENDS.

Suggestions.

Barack Hussein Obama believes that the only American citizens who should have any firearms, are law enforcement, words out of his own mouth.

Barack Hussein Obama voted against legislation as an IL State Senator, for a homeowner using a firearm, in his or her own home, for self defense.

Obama has a 100% anti-gun voting record, 100%, anti-gun.

"We can't drive our SUV's, eat anything we want, keep our homes at 72 degrees and expect the world to say, OK."

Words out of his own mouth.

I could increase the reasons not to vote for him by the hundreds, all either his own words, or his voting actions.

re: #96 GeeWiz

OK, I'll stop now. I guess today's posters are more interested in current events than 60's music. Sorry!

No, no . . .

/60's music is good

re: #76 Macker

Definitely Megadeth!

Ooo, it is! LOL!

re: #75 wolfie

re: #89 see bs

He's going to say "I want to see that" and that'll be it.

Thanks for the suggestions. Kids rule all.

BHO, opens his mouth and inserts both of his feet up to his hips when he's talking without a teleprompter. He might also be feeling the stresses of campaigning with its associated lack of sleep, poor diet, and a bad case of RDS (republican derangement syndrome). This should serve as an indication of how he would handle himself in a crisis to every American citizen and is totally unsuitable for the office of President since if he can't handle the stresses of running for office how would he handle another Katrina, 9/11, disaster?

re: #96 GeeWiz

OK, I'll stop now. I guess today's posters are more interested in current events than 60's music. Sorry!

Wrong. Here's something good.

re: #96 GeeWiz

Don't stop, it's an open thread! :) Post away!

re: #63 WrathofG-d

Ok, so a friend of mine was asked for 5 reasons (excluding Israel) why one shouldn't vote for Obama.

he could only come up with 4.

1.FORIEGN POLICY: He is naive when it comes to what the World is really like. His desire to just sit down with leaders like Achmadinajad (of Iran) and somehow change his mind by just speaking to him is naive, dangerous and only bolsters those evil leaders' standing in the world

2. POLITICAL EXTREMIST: He is the most liberal member of the senate.

3. TAXES & ROLE OF GOVERNMENT: It is not hidden, as it is a central tenant to his campaign, that Obama wishes to raise taxes, and use the money to provide more entitlements

4. OBAMAS FRIENDS.

Suggestions.

He will probably ban guns and outlaw churches, so the bitter-clingers won't have any choice but to depend on (his) government.

Debka disclaimer.

First documentary evidence Iran is into nuclear explosives, missile warhead design

The International Atomic Energy Agency in Vienna based its new and damning findings partly on 18 intelligence documents submitted by the United States, and now accuse Tehran of willful lack of cooperation. Iran dismissed the documents as forged or fabricated.

DEBKAfile reports that the documents came from materials contained in a laptop stolen from one of the heads of Iran’s nuclear program in Tehran in late 2006 by Iranian dissidents. It was passed to the CIA. Despite this evidence of an ongoing nuclear weapons program, sixteen US intelligence agencies, including the CIA, combined last year to announce this program was suspended in 2003.

Even the nuclear watchdog’s director Mohammed ElBaradei, who often meets the Iranians halfway, has concluded that Iran’s nuclear activities are of “serious concern” and require “substantial explanations.” which Tehran has refused to offer.

His latest report describes Iran’s installation of new IR-2 and IR-3 centrifuges for enriching uranium at the Natanz site as “significant” yet not communicated to his agency. IAEA inspectors on a visit in April were denied access to the sites where the centrifuges are manufactured and the scientists involved. Some, the report states, were produced by Iran’s “military” (a reference to the Revolutionary Guards corps which is in charge of Iran’s nuclear weapons industry).

An official connected to the watchdog disclosed that since December, the Iranians have processed close to 150 kilograms, double the amount produced in the same period 18 months ago.

The watchdog director’s report was released Monday, May 26, to the IAEA’s 35-member board of directors and the UN Security Council, and will be discussed by the board next week.

re: #95 yitzy

Yea that was placed under "Obama's Friends".

re: #63 WrathofG-d

Ok, so a friend of mine was asked for 5 reasons (excluding Israel) why one shouldn't vote for Obama.

he could only come up with 4.

1.FORIEGN POLICY: He is naive when it comes to what the World is really like. His desire to just sit down with leaders like Achmadinajad (of Iran) and somehow change his mind by just speaking to him is naive, dangerous and only bolsters those evil leaders' standing in the world

2. POLITICAL EXTREMIST: He is the most liberal member of the senate.

3. TAXES & ROLE OF GOVERNMENT: It is not hidden, as it is a central tenant to his campaign, that Obama wishes to raise taxes, and use the money to provide more entitlements

4. OBAMAS FRIENDS.

Suggestions.

Would it be childish to include his EARS?

re: #115 opnion

Would it be childish to include his EARS?

Yes, but what's your point?

re: #112 DesertSage

He will probably ban guns and outlaw churches, so the bitter-clingers won't have any choice but to depend on (his) government.

That's why I spending my tax rebated on GUNS!
Church I can have in my home, WHERE I KEEP MY GUNS!

/hows that for clingy

re: #105 republic

That is wonderful stuff, I didn't know all that.

I'm trying to convince a New York Liberal though. He probably thinks no guns will = no crime. (because his drug use, bar fights, etc., aren't crime you know..)

re: #96 GeeWiz

OK, I'll stop now. I guess today's posters are more interested in current events than 60's music. Sorry!

Ilove 60's music. Don't be sorry. Here is one for you.

re: #115 opnion

Would it be childish to include his EARS HEAD HANDLES?

/not at all

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Floyd Shale - MS, AL
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Each of the above represent hundreds of TCFe of RECOVERABLE oil and gas.

Tell Nancy, Chuck, Harry, et al to let us build some refineries!

Zombie
I saw one of your pictures on another site I was stumbling on.

[Link: my.mmoabc.com...]
It's about halfway down the page, it's of the pin the molotov on the cop car.

re: #116 Nevergiveup

Yes, but what's your point?

He is rediculously sensitive about his ears & told the media that they were off limits.

re: #89 see bs

I love Raiders and Last Crusade, but this was so over the top unbelievable...

My son compared it to the second Raiders, Temple of Doom, as far as 'reality' was concerned. He's there at the movie again with his sister right now, they watched it the other day and the movie broke 20 minutes away from the ending. Had a rain check, nothing to do today, so they went to finish it.

Definitely not the best one, but he said the thing that saved it for him was that he kept saying to himself "Hey, I'm in a theater, watching a NEW Indiana Jones movie!" LOL He wasn't born until '90, a year after Last Crusade came out. :)

Someone ought to drag Obama's granny out from under the bus and ask her if that "6 months in the attic" story about Grandpa is true, or is a slander.

Listening to President Bush's Memorial Day speech. Awesome! He can't express it enough how proud he is of our military. He may have made a bunch of mistakes during his presidency but I will always respect him for his stand on our military.

re: #123 opnion

True story? ha! I guess all Bush had to do was tell the MSM that his speech impedament and dislexia was "off limits".

re: #106 Killian Bundy

No, no . . .
/60's music is good

Enjoy.

Speaking of guns....

Does anybody have a reliable reference supporting the rise in crime AFTER they took all the guns away from the Brits? I thought I saw it in a film (or on Youtube) but can't find the statistic anywhere.

re: #119 Truck Monkey

Ilove 60's music. Don't be sorry. Here is one for you.
[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Strawberry Alarm Clock
Herman's Hermits
Iron Butterfly
King Crimson
Janis Joplin
Hendrix
Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young
Santana
Animals

Filmore East & West

re: #127 WrathofG-d

True story? ha! I guess all Bush had to do was tell the MSM that his speech impedament and dislexia was "off limits".

It's true

re: #119 Truck Monkey

Ilove 60's music. Don't be sorry. Here is one for you.
[Link: www.youtube.com...]

WTF was that?
I did notice the fat guy in the middle was wearing a Che tee shirt.

re: #118 WrathofG-d

That is wonderful stuff, I didn't know all that.

I'm trying to convince a New York Liberal though. He probably thinks no guns will = no crime. (because his drug use, bar fights, etc., aren't crime you know..)

Tell your NY liberal friend, that 99% of the gun crime in NY, is caused by mega repeat offenders, most of which already have previous gun crime charges against them, and ask your NY friend why Michael Bloomberg doesn't demand that his city attorneys throw the book at these thugs, instead of letting them back out on the streets time, after time, after time, and why putting further infringements of gun control on law abiding citizens is somehow going to curb gun crime, when 99.9% of the common citizenry isn't in any way responsible for any gun crime.

Oh what's the use, liberals and leftist don't want to get it, they already have the same statistics and info that everyone else has.

re: #125 Ojoe

Or Great Uncle, not Grandpa ...

still some confusion here.

Just one more by a team that wrote hits for many groups during the 60's and decided to record this one themselves. Boyce & Hart, in case you are curious.

Tuesday open thread
I'm just beginning to see
theres so much here I can read.
Chaseing the clowns away.
Tuesday's open thread
I'll read the thoughts from your heads,
and readings from some other threads
cause I have nothing to say!

re: #121 Hydrocarbon Hank

Emerging domestic onshore oil and gas plays:

Marcellus - NY, PA, WV, WA
Floyd Shale - MS, AL
Fayetteville Shale - AR
Woodford Shale - OK, AR, TX
Barnett - TX
Palo Duro - TX
Maverick Basin - TX
Green River Basin - UT, CO, WY
Bakken - MT, ND

Each of the above represent hundreds of TCFe of RECOVERABLE oil and gas.

Tell Nancy, Chuck, Harry, et al to let us build some refineries!

DRILL ANWAR NOW!

The caribou and mosquitos will be just fine.

re: #135 GeeWiz

Just one more by a team that wrote hits for many groups during the 60's and decided to record this one themselves. Boyce & Hart, in case you are curious.

I thought that Sam Cook wrote every rock song of the 60's.

re: #123 opnion

He is rediculously sensitive about his ears & told the media that they were off limits.

Actually I was trying to make a joke and it got all fouled up. My bad.

re: #127 WrathofG-d

True story? ha! I guess all Bush had to do was tell the MSM that his speech impedament and dislexia was "off limits".

GWB's dyslexia and speech is all a Rove plot get his enemies to p%u01DD%u0287%u0250%u026F%u0131%u0287s%u01DD%u0279 %u01DDpuns%u0131%u026F him.

re: #140 JCM

GWB's dyslexia and speech is all a Rove plot get his enemies to p%u01DD%u0287%u0250%u026F%u0131 ;%u0287s%u01DD%u0279%u01DDpuns&# x0131;%u026F him.

pffffttttt.

Didn't work.

*hangs head*

re: #125 Ojoe

Someone ought to drag Obama's granny out from under the bus and ask her if that "6 months in the attic" story about Grandpa is true, or is a slander.

Was there a toilet in the attic?

re: #137 republic

The nonsense make me ill....really it does.

...Perhaps no Western media outlet has exhibited this habit of moral inversion more regularly than the BBC. In 2006, to take a typical example, Manchester’s top imam told psychotherapist John Casson that he supported the death penalty for homosexuality. Casson expressed shock—and the BBC, in a dispatch headlined imam accused of “gay death” slur, spun the controversy as an effort by Casson to discredit Islam. The BBC concluded its story with comments from an Islamic Human Rights Commission spokesman, who equated Muslim attitudes toward homosexuality with those of “other orthodox religions, such as Catholicism” and complained that focusing on the issue was “part of demonizing Muslims.”

In June 2005, the BBC aired the documentary Don’t Panic, I’m Islamic, which sought to portray concerns about Islamic radicalism as overblown. This “stunning whitewash of radical Islam,” as Little Green Footballs blogger Charles Johnson put it, “helped keep the British public fast asleep, a few weeks before the bombs went off in London subways and buses” in July 2005. In December 2007, it emerged that five of the documentary’s subjects, served up on the show as examples of innocuous Muslims-next-door, had been charged in those terrorist attacks—and that BBC producers, though aware of their involvement after the attacks took place, had not reported important information about them to the police. ...

...We need to recognize that the cultural jihadists hate our freedoms because those freedoms defy sharia, which they’re determined to impose on us. So far, they have been far less successful at rolling back freedom of speech and other liberties in the U.S. than in Europe, thanks in no small part to the First Amendment. Yet America is proving increasingly susceptible to their pressures.

The key question for Westerners is: Do we love our freedoms as much as they hate them? Many free people, alas, have become so accustomed to freedom, and to the comfortable position of not having to stand up for it, that they’re incapable of defending it when it’s imperiled—or even, in many cases, of recognizing that it is imperiled. As for Muslims living in the West, surveys suggest that many of them, though not actively involved in jihad, are prepared to look on passively—and some, approvingly—while their coreligionists drag the Western world into the House of Submission.

But we certainly can’t expect them to take a stand for liberty if we don’t stand up for it ourselves.

An Anatomy of Surrender
Motivated by fear and multiculturalism, too many Westerners are acquiescing to creeping sharia.

Took over 1000 comments.

/but the Obama cavalry has finally arrived on the "liberation" thread

re: #129 yitzy

Speaking of guns....

Does anybody have a reliable reference supporting the rise in crime AFTER they took all the guns away from the Brits? I thought I saw it in a film (or on Youtube) but can't find the statistic anywhere.

"Reliable references" have never stopped the anti-gun kooks.

The Brady Campaign's own statistics clearly show that where the most strict gun control laws are, is where the highest crime is, and they don't miss beat, at trying to do away with the 2nd Amendment, of which ALL of the Constitution and Bill of Rights are founded upon.

Take away the 2nd Amendment, and the rest will fall faster than you can blink your eyes.

Oh what's the use.

News from the 144th Raisin Pickers Union(soon to be the 72nd): Zionist enemy helpless in confronting Palestinians

Appreciating the heroic resistance of the Palestinian people, resistance forces and Hamas government in confronting the atrocities of the Zionist regime, bullying powers and their allies, Ayatollah Khamenei underlined that the Zionist enemy has become helpless in fighting the lonely, innocent but resistant nation of Palestine.

The Supreme Leader of the Islamic Revolution made the remarks in a meeting with head of political bureau of the Palestinian Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) Khalid Mashal.

See ya' Khalid...sucker.

re: #110 sparrowlake

Great tune! One of my favorites from my courting days. How about some Soul music?

re: #135 GeeWiz

Nice, reminds me a bit of this sweet one.

re: #117 JCM

That's why I spending my tax rebated on GUNS!
Church I can have in my home, WHERE I KEEP MY GUNS!

/hows that for clingy

It's a good start, but you need to work some bitterness and resentment into the mixture if you wanna convince me of your level of commitment.

/maybe a batch of lemons with a grudge

re: #133 republic

Ok I got a response from one of them:

Setting aside so many other issues I have with your line of reasoning, I find it extraordinarily offensive that you say this, with the worst part bolded:

I said: I work very hard and pay for my own services, the Government (and this is what it is all about) should not have the ability to FORCE me (which is what the IRS does through taxes) to pay for programs they believe others should have (even though they don't work hard enough to afford them)

She said:

OK, fine. I don't believe that we should have invaded Iraq, therefore I refuse to pay taxes. I don't believe in the unmitigated right to bear arms, therefore I refuse to pay taxes. I don't believe in this government's foreign "abstinence-only" policy, therefore I refuse to pay taxes. Too bad I don't get to pick and choose what I want to pay taxes for.

But to assume that those who can't afford things like health insurance don't work enough? That's so far beyond the pale that I don't even believe that anyone could actually think this. Shame on you. For what it's worth--I myself, in 2000, was working six days a week at a job that paid me 10 dollars an hour, for anywhere between 10 and 16 hours a day. And I not only wasn't given health insurance, I still couldn't afford it. Nor could I afford to move out of my parents' home. Working at one of the largest corporations in America. And I was one of the lucky ones, with an Ivy League degree, and two college-educated, successful parents with an apartment on the Upper East Side of Manhattan.

If you honestly think that not working hard enough is the problem--you need not only a wake-up call, but to do some serious self-examination about why you feel so much better than everyone else. There are millions of Americans in foreclosure; millions who have to decide daily between gas, food and medicine. Median household income actually decreased in the last five years, the first time this has happened in American history. Five million fewer Americans have employer-provided healthcare-insurance now than they did in 2000. How are THEY to blame for these problems? Because they didn't work hard enough?

Congratulations; you officially disgust me.

Emotional much?

Who could forget The Righteous Brothers and of course their song from the hit movie, Ghost. Two of the greatest make-out songs of my courtship years. Kudos to Bill Medley & Bobby Hatfield.

re: #151 WrathofG-d

I myself, in 2000, was working six days a week at a job that paid me 10 dollars an hour, for anywhere between 10 and 16 hours a day. And I not only wasn't given health insurance, I still couldn't afford it.

That's between $31,200 and $49,920 a year, with no rent or mortgage. Health insurance was more than $2600/month in 2000?

I guess everyone left the old music thread to find something "new & different". Change I say!

Obama & Clinton , the early years.

click the enlarge image button.

re: #148 GeeWiz

Yes, very good, now stop me if you heard it lately.

re: #63 WrathofG-d

Ok, so a friend of mine was asked for 5 reasons (excluding Israel) why one shouldn't vote for Obama.

he could only come up with 4.

1.FORIEGN POLICY: He is naive when it comes to what the World is really like. His desire to just sit down with leaders like Achmadinajad (of Iran) and somehow change his mind by just speaking to him is naive, dangerous and only bolsters those evil leaders' standing in the world

2. POLITICAL EXTREMIST: He is the most liberal member of the senate.

3. TAXES & ROLE OF GOVERNMENT: It is not hidden, as it is a central tenant to his campaign, that Obama wishes to raise taxes, and use the money to provide more entitlements

4. OBAMAS FRIENDS.

Suggestions.

5. HIS WIFE

I want her as far away from the White House as possible!

And now... dinner

bbiaw

re: #153 Silhouette

She has an Ivy League Education, and lives at home. That alone should tell you something.

If you'd like, I'll post my response.

Too bad everyone left, I've saved my favorites for last.

#1

#2

#3

OK, the last one is from the 70's but still a great song.

this thing on?

re: #156 sparrowlake

Yes, but have you asked yourself
this question lately?
ps: watch the video

re: #87 GeeWiz

How 'bout this one?

Can you tell I'm a Booker T. fan? LOL

Amen. My favorite: Melting Pot

re: #153 Silhouette

That's between $31,200 and $49,920 a year, with no rent or mortgage. Health insurance was more than $2600/month in 2000?

Also I'd reccomend she get the f**k out of NY and go to the real world where people make under 20000 a year and still survive.

re: #158 WrathofG-d

Sure, though it will likely just frustrate me because nothing will have gotten through.

re: #158 WrathofG-d

She has an Ivy League Education, and lives at home. That alone should tell you something.

If you'd like, I'll post my response.

Please do

re: #129 yitzy

Speaking of guns....

Does anybody have a reliable reference supporting the rise in crime AFTER they took all the guns away from the Brits? I thought I saw it in a film (or on Youtube) but can't find the statistic anywhere.

re: #65 Nevergiveup

Our meaning just Lizards? Heck no. Everyone should be watching him now. I swear he's opening his mouth only to change socks and shoes on the feet he's inserted.

re: #163 Mars Needs Neocons

My response to her had something to do with making sacrifices in life, and understanding the difference between wants and needs.

Hello,

Sorry you were "offended". A bit of an extreme response to what I argued, but eitherway, I appologize. We are all civil people here having a discussion upon issues that it seems we disagree. (or at least that is how I look at it)

To respond however (or shall I say clarify): First, you misunderstood my statement about Taxes. I do not want a Gov that creates more reasons to take money out of my pockets to pay for their pet projects. Dealing with the stupid things we already have taxes paying for is another story. (ie: Guns, War, Abstainance-only, etc.) My point was that I would not vote for Obama because he wishes to (a) create more stupid things that the people are forced to pay for & (b) he wants to steal more money out of our pockets (against our will) to pay for them. That being said, you don't "pay" for Gun laws, or the Abstainance-only policies. However, they would be good reasons for you to not want to vote for someone who shares those beliefs, on that point I understand where you are coming from. But you are right, through Government we do NOT get to pick and choose what we pay for, which is EXACTLY why I don't want more entitlement projects, I want less. In the private sector however (as was my suggestion) we get to pick exactly what we want to pay for....thus if the Gov didn't get involved in "Abstainance-Only" policies, you wouldn't have to pay for it (as you woudln't be taxed for it) and instead could choose to pay in the private arena for Pro-Abortion/"choice" projects across the globe. On this "note", I would love for you to respond to my private idea of how to fix the problems without forcing the citizens to pay for it. (Ie: the Private Fund Idea)

Second, as to your working many many hours a week and not getting paid over $10/hour although you had an "Ivy League Education", I really don't know what to tell you as they only way I could respond would probably only "offened" you further. This however, as I'm sure you are a nice person, is not my intent.

As for myself however, I work extremely hard, and sacrificed a lot to get what I have. (and it is not much) I don't have an "ivy league education" but have still been able to afford to live. This is probably because I took responsibility for my own place in life, gave up on my childhood dreams (because they weren't paying the rent) and did what was necessary to be able to put food on my table. (so to speak). Never once did I blame my hard times on anyone else but myself. When I needed to, or when I wanted something, I worked harder, and saved more.

To me this entire issue is about Government intrusion, and self responsibility. I don't need a "wake-up" call to realize that I need to work more hours to pay for other people who cannot succeed, or aren't able to pay for the things that I work my ass off to afford for myself. I don't have any special powers that allow me to perform magical acts that put food on my plate and money in my pocket. I was born with exactly the same baic abilities and skills as anyone else. I work so I can eat, and so I can spend my extremely hard earned money on things I want to buy...not things that someone else tells me I have to buy for someone else. (and to such an extent that after I pay for their wants, I can no longer afford my own)

(snip)

re: #65 Nevergiveup

Isn't that our job?

Whups, wrong quote, the above is the correct referent. PIMF is your friend.

(snip)

As to those in forclosures, they shouldn't have over extended themselves and bought houses they couldn't afford in the first place. When I was buying a house, I bought wayyyyy under my means so that I could ensure that I could afford the place. I dont' have good insurance through my employment, and thus I save my money so that I can afford any medical services that I need, if and when I need them. I sacrifice my wants for my needs. I'd much rather go out and buy something nice and expensive, or have a great meal, but instead I eat tuna on bread so that I save money just in case I need medical services, can afford my mortgatge, etc.

The problem is that some people think that just because they want something that somehow it is coming to them. (ie: house they cannot afford, free medical services so they can spend their money elsewhere, etc.) I expect nothing from my Government but roads, police/ambulance, etc., and National Defense). Obama, believes that he can create further strain on the civilian population, and economy with higher taxes (while he finds more reaons not to pay his own as a Millionaire), and just tax our way out of it. Overall, how about I pay for myself, and everyone else pay for themselves. I don't need a Goverment of Millionaires forcing Thousandairs to pay for their pet social programs.

More importantly than anything else however, I am sorry that I "officially disgust" you. I'm sure if we met we'd be great friends. I respect you and your opinion, even if we disagree, try not to take my opinion so personally, it isn't intended to offend.

It would take me the skills of a contortionist to be "great friends" with someone like her.

Thank you that was nicely done.

re: #162 Bloodnok

Thanks. How about a 60's hit that was in a foreign language and one that my Mom also liked!

re: #171 Mars Needs Neocons

I don't know this person, but I'm sure she is nice enough; just wrong.

I don't hate her, I just disagree with her.

I only wish she was able to respect our disagreement as much as I do. So emotional and rude..sheesh!

Anyway, this article about how the next/possibly soon-to-be UN Education guy only a couple months ago said he would burn any Israeli book he found, is more interesting than my mini-drama.

re: #173 WrathofG-d

I don't know this person, but I'm sure she is nice enough; just wrong.

I don't hate her, I just disagree with her.

I only wish she was able to respect our disagreement as much as I do. So emotional and rude..sheesh!

that describes every lib I've ever met, including the few I actually like

re: #175 Mars Needs Neocons

that describes every lib I've ever met, including the few I actually like

Report yourself, charles needs to hear about this if he hasn't already. I've already reported your article (recommend)

Oops meant your 174

Nothin special to add this afternoon.

So without much ado, I give you...

Motorhead - I Ain't No Nice Guy

AFTER
ALL,
R

Have you seen the latest headline at Time?

note the author:With reporting by Jamil Hamad/Bethlehem

Dear Time, let me know when Olmert hosts Nasrallah or Amadinnerjacket in direct talks........

From the article:
"Through the Egyptians, Hamas is offering to stop firing rockets onto southern Israel's towns and farming communities. In return, Hamas wants Israel to cease its targeted assassinations of militant leaders and to lift an international blockade on Gaza's 1.5 million Palestinians, imposed in June 2007 after Hamas seized power in the coastal enclave."

I have breaking news for Time and Mr. Hamad: What Israel is doing is anything but "talking" or "negotiations" with one's enemies. Israel is punishing the shit out of Hamas for it's terrorist policies.

(I guess Hamad forgot about Israeli bombing run on the Syrians as well - NOW THAT IS NEGOTIATING)

re: #178 Render

I shall trump with a
classic from the 60's-70's era. So there! lol :)

re: #179 neverquit

Hamas is offering to stop firing rockets onto southern Israel's towns and farming communities. In return, Hamas wants Israel to cease its targeted assassinations of militant leaders and to lift an international blockade on Gaza's 1.5 million Palestinians, imposed in June 2007 after Hamas seized power in the coastal enclave."

In addition to your input, Hamas doesn't need to make this bargain. If they just did it, stopped firing rockets into Israel and otherwise stopped trying to kill Jews, all those things would naturally happen.

Is is like a prostitute making the bargain that she'll quit street walking if only the police will stop arresting her.

hey Wrath!

from his web page:
Trade

Obama believes that trade with foreign nations should strengthen the American economy and create more American jobs. He will stand firm against agreements that undermine our economic security.

* Fight for Fair Trade: Obama will fight for a trade policy that opens up foreign markets to support good American jobs. He will use trade agreements to spread good labor and environmental standards around the world and stand firm against agreements like the Central American Free Trade Agreement that fail to live up to those important benchmarks. Obama will also pressure the World Trade Organization to enforce trade agreements and stop countries from continuing unfair government subsidies to foreign exporters and nontariff barriers on U.S. exports.
* Amend the North American Free Trade Agreement: Obama believes that NAFTA and its potential were oversold to the American people. Obama will work with the leaders of Canada and Mexico to fix NAFTA so that it works for American workers.
* Improve Transition Assistance: To help all workers adapt to a rapidly changing economy, Obama would update the existing system of Trade Adjustment Assistance by extending it to service industries, creating flexible education accounts to help workers retrain, and providing retraining assistance for workers in sectors of the economy vulnerable to dislocation before they lose their jobs.

in short, he wants to kill off the free trade agreements, and saddle the left overs with "global warming" and union preferred "good labor" standrds.... the last item is yet another entitlement that we'll have to pay out of any spare change we have left after taxes.

as for NAFTA, here's how the Canadians see it.

re: #63 WrathofG-d

Ok, so a friend of mine was asked for 5 reasons (excluding Israel) why one shouldn't vote for Obama.

he could only come up with 4.

1.FORIEGN POLICY: He is naive when it comes to what the World is really like. His desire to just sit down with leaders like Achmadinajad (of Iran) and somehow change his mind by just speaking to him is naive, dangerous and only bolsters those evil leaders' standing in the world

2. POLITICAL EXTREMIST: He is the most liberal member of the senate.

3. TAXES & ROLE OF GOVERNMENT: It is not hidden, as it is a central tenant to his campaign, that Obama wishes to raise taxes, and use the money to provide more entitlements

4. OBAMAS FRIENDS.

He will kill off NASA in order to fund his early education program. [Link: bsimmons.wordpress.com...]

hat tip to: Ackomanyuki (comment 322 in "Images From Another Planet' thread.)

re: #183 Pshawalaw

Oh, come on!

How about "Completely ill-prepared for the job, and complete lack of experience."
Economic illiteracy is an example of this. Most libs are, of course, but Obama tries to do his extemporaneous speech thing and shows his ignorance. An example of this is one of his recent debates against Clinton where he flatly said the the capital gains tax isn't about money it's about being "fair".
A week or so later he was quoted again, now incorporating what the debate moderator brought up - that lowering the cap gains tax rate brings in more revenue. Embarrassing. He's learning economics during his speeches. I don't think I've EVER seen a less qualified candidate at the top of a ticket.