Let them eat their waffles and wear their terrorist head scarves -- buncha freaks.

The keffiyeh kerfuffle. Let's call the whole thing off, and let me eat my kerwaffle!
/

Would you believe I’m still getting hate mail from leftists and Rachael Ray fans over this post?

And you've yet to post the juiciest ones, sir.

/please, please

re: #1 Israel4ever

Let them eat their waffles and wear their terrorist head scarves -- buncha freaks.

The collaborators are easy to spot.....

Dunkin' Donuts, the pastry of the caliphate!

How is "kaffiyeh" pronounced?

It looks so good with a Che beret

re: #4 jcm

Hey there Sir! Hope all is well!

"Progressives" refuse to *think* about issues and understand things in a rational manner, rather they prefer to express how they "feel", hence the irrational responses.

"Solidarity"
"Resistance"

bullshit

. The keffiyeh will be de rigueur this summer in Denver.

re: #6 MandyManners

How is "kaffiyeh" pronounced?

Ka (as in CAlf), ffi like 'fee', yeh like ya in 'ya'll'

re: #6 MandyManners

How is "kaffiyeh" pronounced?

ka FEE ah

re: #12 buzzsawmonkey

Perfect!

re: #3 David Simon

And you've yet to post the juiciest ones, sir.

/please, please

There really haven't been any noteworthy hate mails yet. They're all like this:

IT'S A FUCKING SCARF! You people are freaks. Try leaving your computer for a while, walk down main street and you'll see these evil
scarfs on all kinds of woman.

It's only natural for leftists to get offended by the truth being exposed- it makes it harder for them to continue to lie.

I hate moonbats.

re: #8 coquimbojoe

Hey there Sir! Hope all is well!

I want little munchette in my life boat. She discovered bailing last night. Bailing out the bath tub that is. ;-)

re: #6 MandyManners

How is "kaffiyeh" pronounced?

TER ror ist RAG.

I wonder how the people complaining would feel if Klan hoods became the latest fashion trend.

Try leaving your computer for a while, walk down main street and you'll see these evil scarfs on all kinds of woman.

And that makes it Okay!

Which, you know, might be the whole point in stating why it's a symbol of terrorism.

I hate Kaffiyah as much as I hate the SS/Nazi armbands that neo-nazis wear these days. They are the symbol of hate and violence and should be banned

re: #6 MandyManners

Fuh king scar fa

let the moonbats wear it, tells me who my friends are right away, don't have to beat around the bush.

sort of like the silver shirts in the 1930's

re: #6 MandyManners

How is "kaffiyeh" pronounced?

Ka - as in bread, ffi - as in apple, and yah - as in symphony.
:)

for example, claiming that I said Dunkin’ Donuts and Rachael Ray have “terrorist ties”

Ties, scarves--neckwear is neckwear.

/

Some of the complaints strike me as being less over the scarf and more over the right wing blogosphere's power in influencing outcomes.

re: #5 coquimbojoe

Dunkin' Donuts, the pastry of the caliphate!

Hmm - perhaps the answer to this whole thing is more marketing- only of the proper products. Get Sam Adams and Swift's Premium to wrap beer and hams in these rags and see how fast the screams of AYE KEEL YEW! dampen the enthusiasm for any more foolishness.

Even the Boston Globe had an article on this.
(Although since DD is headquartered in Canton, near Boston, it isn't too surprising)
They mentioned Michelle Malkin, but not LGF.

IT'S A FUCKING SCARF! You people are freaks. Try leaving your computer for a while, walk down main street and you'll see these evil scarfs on all kinds of woman.

I don’t walk down the street but I do drive down it and I don’t see any women wearing that f***ing scaf.

re: #13 coquimbojoe

Ka (as in CAlf), ffi like 'fee', yeh like ya in 'ya'll'

re: #14 red satellite

ka FEE ah

KA fee or ka FEE?

re: #20 David Simon

TER ror ist RAG.

I can say that!

re: #30 Kosh's Shadow

"LGF" is one of the words the msm isn't allowed to utter.

re: #32 MandyManners

KA fee or ka FEE?

Accent second syllable

You know, I'll bet that if the origins of this "scarf" was an aboriginal loin cloth it wouldn't be so damn popular with all these dimwits.

/nad bag

re: #24 ethanxxx

Fuh king scar fa

LOL! Easy for me.

re: #21 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I wonder how the people complaining would feel if Klan hoods became the latest fashion trend.

exactly. duplicitous hypocritical terrorist-loving assholes.

re: #26 bosforus

Ka - as in bread, ffi - as in apple, and yah - as in symphony.
:)

*whack*

It's just a scarf!
Oh yeah? Well, it's just a cartoon.
That okay with you?

"Ms. Hukahori doesn’t have to answer any such questions; she hasn’t worn her kaffiyeh in public in months. It would never make her stand out with a club doorman today, she feels. The kaffiyeh, she said, is “dead.”

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
There's the true viewpoint of a fashionista, from the NYT story: the kaffiyeh is "dead." Let everyone know that the kaffiyeh is out-of-fashion, last season's news, and you've gone a long way toward eliminating the ignorant part of the display. Then everyone will know for sure that the wearer is making a political statement.

Which kaffiyeh controversy? There have been so many. /wish it weren't so.

These folks fail to remember that the kaffiyeh chic came into fashion after none other than Yasir Arafat made a big deal about how he wore his. Had to be just right in public so that it would appear as though it was mirroring an image of Palestine (all of it - not just the West Bank/Gaza two-state solution variety).

Since then, Palestinian sympathizers have adorned themselves in such garb - though not in Arafat's stylings.

Never mind that Arafat remained an unrepentant terrorist until his death, and that his minions remain unrepentant terrorists to this day, along with Islamic terrorists the world over, and use the keffiyah to mask their identities when carrying out terrorist attacks.

re: #31 DownRightMeanAmerican

I don’t walk down the street but I do drive down it and I don’t see any women wearing that f***ing scaf.

That's because you don't go to UC Irvine, or hang around CAIR meetings.

re: #26 bosforus

Ka - as in bread, ffi - as in apple, and yah - as in symphony.
:)

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAA

re: #35 red satellite

Accent second syllable

Thanks! Don't wanna' sound like the knuckle-dragging troglodyte that I am.

They are morons. The Salon piece essentially argues that the Kaffiyeh is merely a traditional Arab headscarf, and that in only recent times has it become associated with terrorists. Therefore to say that is pro terrorist means that you are saying all Arabs are terrorists.

I pointed out yesterday, that utter stupidity of that. Following that logic, one who was to criticize a person wearing a swatika as showing Nazi solidarity would be guilty of calling all Chinese and Indians Nazis (the swaztika is a good luck symbol for Hinuds and Budhists).

re: #40 MandyManners

*whack*

Can't say I didn't see that coming.

re: #44 Kosh's Shadow

That's because you don't go to UC Irvine, or hang around CAIR meetings.

That's true.

re: #26 bosforus

Ka - as in bread, ffi - as in apple, and yah - as in symphony.
:)

Are you funnin' on me?

re: #51 coquimbojoe

Are you funnin' on me?

Nah, just messin' with Mandy. Your answer just gave me the idea. I should've given you a hat tip.

IT'S A FUCKING SCARF! You people are freaks. Try leaving your computer for a while, walk down main street and you'll see these evil
scarfs on all kinds of woman.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Sometimes not.

There are SYMBOLS that mean things. Display of these symbols expresses a MESSAGE. This "f***ing scarf" is a symbol that means something. It means standing with those who believe blowing children to pieces on a bus is a legitimate political act. It means standing with evil.

re: #7 opnion

It looks so good with a Che beret

Indeed.

Hat tip: Lawhawk No. 43.

'scarfs'

. The progressive plural of 'scarf'.

The text and comments on the Kos diary made it exceedingly clear that the lefties were fully aware of the meaning of the kaffiyeh and approved of the same. Apparently this disingenuous arguement that it is just a scarf is to ridicule those that expose the meaning to the general public.

re: #49 bosforus

Can't say I didn't see that coming.

Didja' duck?

Wouldn't it be great to see a Rachel Ray vs. Martha Stewart steel cage match? And all the idiots who are Ray and Steward fans could beat on each others small brains while their icons do the same inside the cage.

I know it will never happen but I can dream, can I?

re: #31 DownRightMeanAmerican

I don’t walk down the street but I do drive down it and I don’t see any women wearing that f***ing scaf.

Her ein NYC, it's chic... Lots of women have it on... The gf doesn't want one thankfully... I told her what it was about and what it represented and she said that if it were not for me, she never would have known it to be anything other than the latest fashion trend...

re: #47 MandyManners

You will also see spelling variations. (eg. keffiyeh, kaff%u012Bya)

Thank you Charles for reporting! Maybe you'll gain some rational fans.

If you really want to look to die for while wearing your Kaffiyeh, don't forget to accessorize with a matching vest.

Explosives and trigger sold separately.

Don't forget the various pages I've put up documenting the success of this mainstreaming of the kaffiyeh:

The Al-Aqsa Kaffiyeh Brigade

Arabian Nights Costume Party

Kaffiyehs as Fashion

...among many others.

The largest kaffiyeh-mocking repository on the Net!

Speaking of, "showing solidarity with Palestinian 'resistance,' " here's something that struck me as ironic...

From the Haaretz new ticker:

16:44 UN envoy Archbishop Desmond Tutu calls Israeli blockade of Gaza illegal (Reuters)

16:34 5 mortar shells hit Negev causing some property damage (Army Radio)

Yes, back-to-back items, only 10 minutes apart. Though, in the Reuters article, Desmond Tutu says, "...the people of Sderot those who suffer from the Qassam rockets, we care about them too." Reuters also helpfully points out that "Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter last month referred to the blockade as an atrocity."

One last tidbit regarding Desmond Tutu in Gaza:

"Israel, which regards the [U.N. Human Rights Council] as biased against it, denied Tutu a visa, forcing him to cross into the Gaza Strip through Egypt."

Egypt? Blockade? What blockade?

Heh.

re: #62 alegrias HEY! We're rational fans! LOL!

The lefty blogs and the Rachael Ray fans seem to be making the same circular argument: It's a scarf, not a Kaffiyeh...and even if it is a Kaffiyeh, so what?

Well it's been grand as usual but I gotta go eat lunch and write a bunch of letters to my congresscritters over that UN Peacekeeper Thread Charles so kindly put up yesterday evening.
Hope you all have a GREAT DAY and that I get the chance to see you down the road.

re: #5 coquimbojoe

Dunkin' Donuts, the pastry of the caliphate!

Actually, it looks like DD is a stand-up, non-moonbat company. At least that's what Malkin says in her column.
They pulled the ad and apologized immediately and have been getting hate-mail from the left for doing it. (acc to Malkin)
So we can have a munchkin in good conscience!

re: #60 tfc3rid

Her ein NYC, it's chic... Lots of women have it on...

And NYC is something like a third Jewish. Oy gevalt.

Seriously, though, I can see why somebody would want a big substantial cloth wrapped around their neck when hanging out with headchoppers.

re: #56 buzzsawmonkey

Troglodytes.

I'm laughing and dancing!

It is no different than any person trying to defend wearing a swastika.

Same evil cause, different symbols.

re: #61 red satellite

You will also see spelling variations. (eg. keffiyeh, kaff%u012Bya)

AIYEEEEEEEE!

re: #58 MandyManners

Didja' duck?

No. And now I need ice. :(

I liked my caption for this photo:

"The Holy Grail of protest photos: woman wearing a kaffiyeh while carrying a '9/11 Truth' sign!"

Exurban League is still getting flooded with moonbat trolls from DU and related environs for our related posts. Not surprisingly, I've had to ban many anti-semitic commenters blaming everything on the JOOOOOOS!

I moved on several days ago, but our "moral betters" on the Left can't seem to let it go.

re: #59 Land Shark

Wouldn't it be great to see a Rachel Ray vs. Martha Stewart steel cage match? And all the idiots who are Ray and Steward fans could beat on each others small brains while their icons do the same inside the cage.

I know it will never happen but I can dream, can I?

* * *
Martha Stewart is a woman of refinement who celebrates America, down to the chickens she grows on her farms.

Sure hope I'm right to say this. Martha Stewart also spent time in Wild and Wonderful West Virginia, and when she left her women's prison, she wore a beautiful American poncho someone knitted for her.

Yes, capitalist Martha Stewart even made money off her chic US-made prison wear poncho!

Who's smarter I ask you!

re: #74 MandyManners

I lived in Irvine, CA. Home of UCI, the Western Caliphate.

re: #67 Ringo the Gringo

The lefty blogs and the Rachael Ray fans seem to be making the same circular argument: It's a scarf, not a Kaffiyeh...and even if it is a Kaffiyeh, so what?

Wearing their anti-semitism as a badge of honor! You gotta problem wid dat?

re: #70 David Simon

And NYC is something like a third Jewish. Oy gevalt.

Yeah, well, I know of about gour Jewish young women in my office who have them wear them daily...

re: #76 zombie

I liked my caption for this photo:

"The Holy Grail of protest photos: woman wearing a kaffiyeh while carrying a '9/11 Truth' sign!"

Hmm. What's the deal with the leather cap? Is that some sort of nod to gay sadomasochism?

Gotta' get back to cleaning. Wish I had one of those to scrub the toilet.

re: #76 zombie

I liked my caption for this photo:

"The Holy Grail of protest photos: woman wearing a kaffiyeh while carrying a '9/11 Truth' sign!"

Good G*D! Are these people born that stupid or do they have to work at it?

/shakes head...

If only Honey Baked Ham would come out with a new design for their ham marketing: a kaffiyeh covered platter with their spiral ham on top.
I'd even buy some.

re: #76 zombie

I liked my caption for this photo:

"The Holy Grail of protest photos: woman wearing a kaffiyeh while carrying a '9/11 Truth' sign!"

The holy grail would be a "breasts not bombs" protester with a kaffiyeh and troofer sign...
;-P

re: #73 republic

It is no different than any person trying to defend wearing a swastika.

Same evil cause, different symbols.

I completely and wholeheartedly agree... Nazi's took the swastika and perverted it for themselves... I'd LOVE to see Old Navy try and pass one into the mainstream market...

I'll be honest, if someone showed me that picture of Rachael Ray, I wouldn't have thought twice of it.

I personally don't think we need to go crazy over the issue. A polite comment should be sufficient.

re: #66 realwest

HEY! We're rational fans! LOL!

* * *
Haven't you learned a lot since discoverying LGF? Charles has definitely opened my eyes, along with the smart people here from all over the world.

/If only there were a way to combine the Keffiyeh and the Confederate battle flag into one loveable garment. . .

re: #81 tfc3rid

Yeah, well, I know of about gour Jewish young women in my office who have them wear them daily...

Wouldn't surprise me if more than half of them understand the symbolism. Sigh...

ZOMBIE
nothin' better
daily visits should be required

I meant four young Jewish women in my office... Not gour...

So wearing the confederate flag is OK or a swastika is just a good luck symbol?
/moonbat logic

Hmmm, funny how the same people screaming it's just a f*cking scarf would be having a meltdown over a student wearing a pro military t shirt into school, or a ROTC uniform at a graduations, or a cross necklace in a school in NJ.......etc..etc...etc.

re: #91 David Simon

Wouldn't surprise me if more than half of them understand the symbolism. Sigh...

I would think none of them understand it... I'm just the crazy far right winger...

i bet the left want to bring the swastika back also.

Jew Hatred is in, didn't you know, and for all those jews on LGF you can join in on the fun, all you need to do is renounce Israel and your judiasm, then your in.

You will just need to ignore all the snide comments and overt hatred displayed by your commrades.

re: #86 jcm

The holy grail would be a "breasts not bombs" protester with a kaffiyeh and troofer sign...

Dang! Now I have to start all over again in my quest.

re: #95 seekeroftruth

Hmmm, funny how the same people screaming it's just a f*cking scarf would be having a meltdown over a student wearing a pro military t shirt into school, or a ROTC uniform at a graduations, or a cross necklace in a school in NJ.......etc..etc...etc.

Or, as someone astutely pointed out above, 'It's Just a Cartoon!'

re: #95 seekeroftruth

So you're saying I shouldn't invest in the fashionable KKK hood idea?

It's not a Kaffiyeh, it's an anti-Jew scarf.

Let's get the terminology right.

re: #95 seekeroftruth

Hmmm, funny how the same people screaming it's just a f*cking scarf would be having a meltdown over a student wearing a pro military t shirt into school, or a ROTC uniform at a graduations, or a cross necklace in a school in NJ.......etc..etc...etc.

Hell, I get dirty looks wearing my USS Ronald Reagan ball cap in Seattle.

I have a Deskflag on my computer, when I gave a presentation at work a co-worker had a little bitch fit.

I'm outta here. Take care!

re: #27 wrenchwench

Ties, scarves, nooses - neckwear is neckwear.

/

re: #84 CIA Reject

Good G*D! Are these people born that stupid or do they have to work at it?

/shakes head...

You have to go to college for that.

I have to admit, I'm still kinda stunned by an active group collectively known as "Rachael Ray Fans." And I thought I did not have a life.
Too Funny

re: #88 CEQAttorney

I'll be honest, if someone showed me that picture of Rachael Ray, I wouldn't have thought twice of it.

I personally don't think we need to go crazy over the issue. A polite comment should be sufficient.

* * *
Arafat's scarf is like Che Guevara's basque beret.
Maybe it's just fashion to you.
Like wearing a flag pin is just fashion to some people.

Don't kid yourself that symbols don't matter.

re: #98 zombie

Dang! Now I have to start all over again in my quest.

Sorry! But you do such stellar work, I figured if that did happen you'd be right there!

I hope I'm close enough to the 100 mark to get away with an OT comment, so here goes:

I just noticed that not only is the vile "McCain Cancer" post still up over at DKook, but it has been "updated" by the author. The update, of course, is replete with claims of fascism and censorship on the part of the other KosKids who were offended by it.

Somehow hundreds of comments have disappeared from the post, too.

[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

re: #76 zombie

I liked my caption for this photo:

"The Holy Grail of protest photos: woman wearing a kaffiyeh while carrying a '9/11 Truth' sign!"

I wonder if she thinks the Israelis blow themselves up.

The Obama camp releases faded pictures,found in the attic, of Obama`s great grandmother in a headscarf pushing Franklin D. Roosevelt in his wheelchair up San Juan hill during the Korean war while under heavy German sniper fire after fighting off a Japenese banzai charge led by Col. Khadafi in a desperate attempt to show "unity" for the Palestinian "cause"!

\\\

re: #27 wrenchwench

LOL

re: #112 Kosh's Shadow

I wonder if she thinks the Israelis blow themselves up.

Perhaps ,,,, but she absolutey beleives it's their fault that they get blown up!

re: #52 bosforus

No H/T necessary. Smartassery is appreciated greatly.

The Guardian is all aghast at Israel for denying entry to terrorist fellow-traveller Finkelstein:
[Link: commentisfree.guardian.co.uk...]

Maybe we should join in the fray.

The dreadlock butt-kaffiyeh.

The righteous Commie-kaffiyeh.

And the suburban terror-chic kaffiyeh.

"all Palestinians are terrorists”

Outrageous!

Walid Shoebat is not a terrorist any more, so there's at least one exception.

But the scarf is actually paisley! It's PAISLEY![/liberal apologist]

Paisley, my arse.[/me]

Re: "It's a fucking scarf"

Hey now, here's an experiment: Try putting on one covered with Stars of David and see how fast your opinion changes. Just a thought.

Promoting violent "resistance" = No Big Deal. Displaying anything smacking of Judeo-Christianity? Unpardonable sin.

"We beat them overseas, now we have to beat them at home" - my father, regarding Communists.

re: #118 Ringo the Gringo

The dreadlock butt-kaffiyeh.

The righteous Commie-kaffiyeh.

And the suburban terror-chic kaffiyeh.

fools ,,,,,, (ummm,,, btw ,, you don't happen to have a frontal photo of butt-kaffiyeh woman ,, do you ?) ,, (just sayin!)

re: #86 jcm

The holy grail would be a "breasts not bombs" protester with a kaffiyeh and troofer sign...
;-P

Even better would be Inflated Scrotum Man with a kaffiyeh and 9/11 sign.

re: #123 Cygnus

Even better would be Inflated Scrotum Man with a kaffiyeh and 9/11 sign.

OKAY! Lunch is OVER!

I just got back from a freakin ANIME convention where there were keffiyehs (lots, actually). It has officially become a fashion statement for the fauxhemian set.

On Topic, this is from a letter I sent to my denomination after reading a report on their visit to Gaza. Many thanks to Nekama and others for content;

I'm writing in response to the article in the June issue in which you were each referenced. If there is a group e-mail address for those who contributed to the paper, I would appreciate you passing this along to them. I was disturbed by what I saw as half-truths and mis-representations and I hope to clarify some of them below. Contrary to the statements of some of those quoted, their point of view is very much the prevailing view in the media and is heard very often.

First of all, let's start on a positive note; I agree with you all that life in the disputed territories is hell on earth and a humanitarian disgrace. Also, I agree that the modern state of Israel is "not chosen of God" or in need of saving for some End-Times purposes. My disagreements were not influenced by Zionist preachers, simply by my heart and brain.

1) First of all, the Palestinians are kept in sub-human conditions for political purposes. Do any of you find it ironic that the wretched people you observed are "brothers and sisters" to some of the wealthiest nations and kingdoms on earth that surround them? These countries literally have wealth pouring out of the ground and yet find it more convenient to keep the "Palestinians" in the world's first multi-generational refugee camps to show the TV cameras and tour groups how mean the Israelis are. The U.S. and the UN have poured billions of dollars of aid into these territories and yet no one's life seems to improve.

2) The Jews have been living in the West Bank and Gaza strip for over 4,000 years of uninterrupted occupation except for some periods when they were massacred and chased out by the Ottoman Empire.

3) Are you aware that the Disputed Territories never belonged to the “Palestinians” and only came into Israeli possession as a result of the 1967 six day war in which Egypt, Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon all massed forces at Israel’s border in order to “push the Jews into the sea”. The Arabs lost and Israel took control of the land as a buffer to future, promised attacks.

4) Did you know that the “Palestinians” could have had their own country as far back as 1948 had they accepted the UN sponsored partition plan which gave Israel AND the Palestinians a country of their own on land which Jews had lived on for thousands of years? The Arabs rejected the UN offer and instead went to war with the infant Israeli nation. Did you know that many of the Palestinians are Jordanian but were massacred and kicked out by King Hussein of Jordan in 1970 after an uprising?

5) If your complaint is about the security fence which Israel is finally building in the Disputed Territories, are you aware that it is built solely to keep the Arab terrorists out so that they can no longer self detonate on busses, in dining halls or pizzerias and kill Jewish grandmothers and schoolchildren? Attacks have dramatically dropped off since the security fence has been built.

6) Regarding your concerns for fellow Christians in these territories, I am with you whole-heartedly. You seem, however, to blame their current troubles on Israel somehow and not the fact that they are being systemically harassed and threatened out of their historic towns by the Muslim majority. Ask yourselves this: Would you rather be an Arab in Israel where they are citizens and are allowed to vote and are even in the Knesset or a Jew in any Arab nation on earth?

The dreaded Zionist kaffiyeh

re: #124 CIA Reject

OKAY! Lunch is OVER!

Both would be equally nauseating.

Will somebody explain to me the difference (if any) between a "keffiyeh" and a "shemagh"?

If the former is politicized, the latter seems to have legitimate application as a desert scarf.

re: #107 bushleague

I have to admit, I'm still kinda stunned by an active group collectively known as "Rachael Ray Fans." And I thought I did not have a life.
Too Funny

The first time I saw the photo, I just figured some model for the ad. Didn't know Rachel Ray from nobody. The building in the background looks like the OR State Capital Building in Salem. So I figured it was moonbat from a local Community College.

re: #108 alegrias

* * *
Arafat's scarf is like Che Guevara's basque beret.
Maybe it's just fashion to you.
Like wearing a flag pin is just fashion to some people.

Don't kid yourself that symbols don't matter.

I disagree that the scarf is the same of the beret.

If you are wearing the scarf in the traditional manner or are purposefully highlighting the scarf, I would agree.

But, if you're just wearing it, it is not a significant issue. Hopefully, the person is just ignorant of the issue.

A polite comment is all that is needed.

Roasted moonbat:

Pluck large, or 2 medium moonbats.
marinate in herbed olive oil for 2 hours in room temperature.
heat large iron skillet on high heat.
Pre-heat oven to 450 degrees.
When oven is hot spray skillet with cooking oil and quickly seer both sides of the moonbat(s).
Move to oven for 20 minutes.
After buzzer sounds throw Moonbats in garbage. You can't eat that cr' p anyway.

RR

re: #126 Spenser (with an S)

Very well done!

re: #130 jcm

The first time I saw the photo, I just figured some model for the ad. Didn't know Rachel Ray from nobody. The building in the background looks like the OR State Capital Building in Salem. So I figured it was moonbat from a local Community College.

Why they picked Rachel instead of Giada I'll never understand.

Can someone help me out? When or where did it get established that the kaffiyeh is th symbol of Palestinian terrorism? Is this scarf worn only by Pali jihadists?

The reason I ask, is that I've seen these worn by Americans for more than 20 years. In college, you could tell which girls were dating arab men by the scarf they wore. I also once worked with a dude at a Kinko's who wore one on this wlak home in the wee hours of a cold winter night. He said it was great for keeping out the wind and staying on your head. I've just never thought that much of it, really. I just thought the college girls were pathetic for having to advertise their multiculturality. The kinko dude seemed to have a good idea.

Link, explanation, anything will do. I'm completely ignorant of this controversy.

Thanks.

rachael ray is overdone.

re: #133 littleO

Roasted moonbat:

Pluck large, or 2 medium moonbats.
marinate in herbed olive oil for 2 hours in room temperature.
heat large iron skillet on high heat.
Pre-heat oven to 450 degrees.
When oven is hot spray skillet with cooking oil and quickly seer both sides of the moonbat(s).
Move to oven for 20 minutes.
After buzzer sounds throw Moonbats in garbage. You can't eat that cr' p anyway.

RR

What do you do with the leftie-overs?

re: #136 Noam Sayin'

Can someone help me out? When or where did it get established that the kaffiyeh is th symbol of Palestinian terrorism? Is this scarf worn only by Pali jihadists?

The reason I ask, is that I've seen these worn by Americans for more than 20 years. In college, you could tell which girls were dating arab men by the scarf they wore. I also once worked with a dude at a Kinko's who wore one on this wlak home in the wee hours of a cold winter night. He said it was great for keeping out the wind and staying on your head. I've just never thought that much of it, really. I just thought the college girls were pathetic for having to advertise their multiculturality. The kinko dude seemed to have a good idea.

Link, explanation, anything will do. I'm completely ignorant of this controversy.

Thanks.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

(HT: Lawhawk)

The Food Channel = Porn for Fat People

re: #120 Jinx McHue

When I first read that, I looked more closely at the photo. It does look like a paisley print (characterized by a curved teardrop pattern), so I figured it was an innocent mistake.

But that's what bugs me about people who hijack everyday items or images. It narrows the options for the rest of us and means that everyone has to be tuned into, or at least aware of, their secret code warpness, or be accused of sending a message that was never intended. You can't wear X because it means you sympathize with terrorists, you can't wear Y because it means you're in the homosexual scene, you can't say Z because some think you're referring to some clandestine lifestyle that I'd never heard of.

OT
Just finished DLing Fire Fox 2.0. and getting ready to install. Anything I should be aware of before I begin the install process?

Much thanks in advance.

re: #142 Bubblehead II

OT
Just finished DLing Fire Fox 2.0. and getting ready to install. Anything I should be aware of before I begin the install process?

Much thanks in advance.

Yes ,,,,, if you're anything like me,,, make sure you have your 13 year old son around !

re: #142 Bubblehead II

OT
Just finished DLing Fire Fox 2.0. and getting ready to install. Anything I should be aware of before I begin the install process?

Much thanks in advance.

Ahhh download 3 RC 1?

Just run the Install / setup .exe.

This is funny. I just read an Arab guy's blog where he's irate (but humorous) about "loony-tunes hippies" dissing kaffiyahs by wearing "anti-war" versions.

Bottom line - no one likes your stupid scarf, lady!

re: #16 Charles
So I walked down the street here in Virginia and saw no one wearing a keffiyah. We did(as I posted) have a contractor wearing one - once- with his expensive tailored overcoat. Perhaps one of his even more expensive bosses told him it was inappropriate because i never saw it again

re: #136 Noam Sayin'

Can someone help me out? When or where did it get established that the kaffiyeh is th symbol of Palestinian terrorism? Is this scarf worn only by Pali jihadists?

Arabs have been wearing these for centuries. As per my last comment about the shemagh, fashion/political issues aside, a light cotton cloth makes a good covering to keep the sun and sand out of your face in the desert.

My understanding is that these were worn as such by British soldiers in the desert campaign during the second world war (ie pre-dating any country of Israel or future Palestinian conflict). So non-Arabs wearing them isn't exactly something new.

It became a symbol of Palestinian nationalism (not necessarily terrorism) when Yassir Arafat personally made it one.

re: #142 Bubblehead II

OT
Just finished DLing Fire Fox 2.0. and getting ready to install. Anything I should be aware of before I begin the install process?

Much thanks in advance.

Make sure your mouse isn't set too lean and that you have changed your keyboard fluid. You should be fine.

re: #16 Charles

The pure stupidity of the "everyone is doing it" excuse for bad behavior is very telling (and frustrating).

Furthermore, I don't imagine these same people would be as "open minded" about the whole "fashion" issue if instead of Liberals in "kiffiyehs", it were Conservatives in the Crosses of the Crusades, Nazi arm bands (hey! Its just a hindu symbol), or KKK robes/symbols.

re: #141 frodolives

I think that many on the Left know quite well what they're doing, when they take over the culture in this way; it's one of their biggest weapons in this war of ideas. That's the real reason they're so upset that Charles, and Michelle Malkin, have called them on this. They're in the business of peddling violence, anti-semetism and anti-western sentiments as "hipness", "coolness", "romance", "fashion"; in a media-centered culture such as ours, that's far more effective than logical argument, or presenting facts. Who cares about facts? We want to be COOL!

re: #148 ethanxxx

Make sure your mouse isn't set too lean and that you have changed your keyboard fluid. You should be fine.

Might want to unplug the internet cable. Let it drain, the bits get stale if you don't drain it now and then.

re: #143 sattv4u2

re: #144 jcm

re: #148 ethanxxx

Sounds like it has no installations bugs then. Well I will log out and shut down IE 6 and commence install.

BBIW

re: #48 jayzee

The Salon piece essentially argues that the Kaffiyeh is merely a traditional Arab headscarf, and that in only recent times has it become associated with terrorists. Therefore to say that is pro terrorist means that you are saying all Arabs are terrorists.

I pointed out yesterday, that utter stupidity of that. Following that logic, one who was to criticize a person wearing a swastika as showing Nazi solidarity would be guilty of calling all Chinese and Indians Nazis (the swastika is a good luck symbol for Hindus and Budhists).

Not to nitpick but I think both the Salon piece and your retort are both logically flawed. I think that for an Arab to wear the headdress would not be tantamount to supporting terror or sending a message. However for a Kaffir to do so likely is. In the same way that I am not offended when traveling in Asia and seeing the swastika in in a Buddhist temple. However, I most certainly am if I see the same symbol in a public washroom.
It is quite clear that the symbol of the Kefiyah has become generally a symbol of "peace" activists, anti- globalism activists as well as supporters of the "Palestinian" movement. Fashion is always about making a statement. The Kefiyah is no different. Lets hold those pushing this fashion accountable for its message.

re: #151 jcm

Might want to unplug the internet cable. Let it drain, the bits get stale if you don't drain it now and then.

Unless you are on a token ring network- if you disconnect the cable you may lose the token!

Addendum:

When it comes to fashion and the Left's/Islamists response/treatment of it we need to look no futher then LGF itself. The thread before this one revolves around how seriously the left/Islamists take fashion & dress codes.

We also, should not forget (when it comes to symbols) how seriously the Left takes the depiction of the Cross. It was not too long ago when they were in an uproar because there was a tiny little cross on the LA Seal.

Symbols have meaning!

re: #129 looking closely

I think this topic was pretty much beaten to death the other day. It was Arafat who popularized the kayyifeh (white cotton with a distinctive spider web or checkered black-line pattern)...Arafat the father of all terrorists -- the one who popularized air plane hijackings and glorified terrorist murderers. He used his kayyifeh as a symbol for "Palestine" -- when he wore it, he folded it in such a way as to show a map of "Palestine" -- without, of course, Israel...that was his agenda -- to wipe Israel off the map...to eliminate Israel -- push the Jews into the sea (just part and parcel of the Muslim Brotherhood agenda)...(yet, of course, to the MSM he'd talk about "peace"...meanwhile he'd arm his terrorist militias and send them out to murder Israelis.)

re: #150 TalkinKamel

Well said.

Establishing and using the 'cool factor' is intended to take the stigma away from it that Arafat established.

If this ever became a major fashion trend wore by millions, does anyone think for a moment that the left or the terrorist propaganda specialists wouldn't hesitate to point out the popularity as proof of support for their cause?

Addendum II:

Or shall I add the hard feelings that the Left has against the Confederate Flag.

Orson Scott Card: "As for the Palestinians, they have never kept any agreement. Israel makes concessions; the Palestinians make promises. The Palestinians break the promises; Israel refuses to make any more concessions; and then the Palestinians scream that it's Israel that is not keeping the treaty. The Palestinians murder Israeli schoolchildren, and when Israel strikes back against terrorists, the Palestinians scream about Israeli aggression."

[Link: www.ornery.org...]

re: #131 CEQAttorney

Would a necktie with a tasteful image of KKK hoods be ok with you?

re: #84 CIA Reject
I wonder how many of the people holding the signs that say the workers struggle has no borders- actually work. Look like a bunch of college students living off mom and dad.

My daughter(a working student) once told a group of these morons that they know nothing about the struggle or socialism. Socialism to these losers means sharing the weed they buy with their parents money.

re: #154 CIA Reject

Unless you are on a token ring network- if you disconnect the cable you may lose the token!

That's why token ring nets fell out of favor. It was just too bloody hard to find the right token - and they were pretty small to be able to fit into those wires.

re: #141 frodolives

It does get complicated, doesn't it?
Who determines what a particular symbol means?
I can imagine, for example, that the PC media elite at some time in the future might decide that wearing a Star of David is a sign of bigotry, "apartheid," hate, etc. etc. Or the cross could be classified as a hate symbol. Didn't the KKK use it? And don't forget the crusadestheinquisitionandgalileo.
Symbols may be created out of nothing, as you say. Other symbols may be robbed and destroyed by a PC elite determined to destroy all loyalties and ideas that rival its own ideology.
Very complicated.

re: #118 Ringo the Gringo

Now in one of your photos- there is a kid wearing a kaffiyeh and a Che beret with a sign that has a Jewish star and says the "biggest terrorist nation in world history". I would not necessarily rip up his sign- I would walk up to him and tell him he knows nothing about history and is a stupid little moron. I am getting ready for these idiots to show up at the Israel celebration this Sunday in DC.

Wearing a terrorist neckscarf
or an armband with swastika glowing
is just my fashion statement
to keep my solidarity showing
My lovely t-shirt with Che
that goes so well with my beret
is progressively leading my brain
down the leftist drain

I now have a Deskflag on my computer also. Thanks for that link!

re: #102 jcm

re: #165 wolfie

It does get complicated, doesn't it?
Who determines what a particular symbol means?
I can imagine, for example, that the PC media elite at some time in the future might decide that wearing a Star of David is a sign of bigotry, "apartheid," hate, etc. etc.

In the future? the moonbats think it right now.

Hanyi Lee, a graphic designer in New York, who had bought a kaffiyeh at Urban Outfitters and now owns three, didn’t intend anything provocative when she wore hers. “I didn’t think it was anything that heavy,” Ms. Lee said, noting that she takes fashion cues from a variety of cultures.

Of course, because all cultures are equal...can hardly wait until she attaches scalps to her belt, or shrunken head on a leather thong, or even better, mud in the hair to prevent lice infestation or a chastity belt with lock and key "held" by her master.....sooooooooo fashionable.

/unless it is Western culture which is somehow now below the others.

re: #154 CIA Reject

Unless you are on a token ring network- if you disconnect the cable you may lose the token!

No worries Frodo has the ring.

re: #150 TalkinKamel

I'm sorry if it sounded like I was excusing the left in any way. I get annoyed because I'm not up on all the secret codes. I've been in the situation where I've something I've said or worn was met with knowing looks. Only afterwards did I learn the misinterpretation was. It bugs me no end.

re: #64 zombie

The largest kaffiyeh-mocking repository on the Net!

"That oughta rotate."

re: #101 Ringo the Gringo

It's a keff-stika.

HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

re: #165 wolfie

Yes. That's what I meant.

re: #172 jcm

Wish I could wear it sometimes.

re: #157 Athos

OT:

I've wanted to point out how the Left misuses and confuses the concept of Love and propagates a message of Romance/Love = Adultry. To prove this one would only have to look at "Romance" Movies:

I'd bet that about 90% (if not more) of all Romance/Love movies are actually anti-Love and pro-cheating/Adultry movies.

Let's take some of the most famous "Romance/Love" movies of the last 40 years or so.

-Titanic: Woman who is engaged, poses naked, and sleeps around with younger man. The audience is made to cheer on and support the "love" between the Fiance and the younger man, and hate the soon-to-be-married couple.

-The Wedding Planner: Soon-to-be-married husband cheats on his Fiance, and falls in love with the Wedding Planner. The audience is made/asked to cheer on the cheating and Adultry.

-When Harry Met Sally: All throughout this movie the audience is encouraged/asked to cheer on the non dating couple, against the present Wife/Husband/Boyfriend/Girlfriend that they are presently with.

-Casablanca: The audience is asked to cheer on/encourage the two "past lovers" (Ilsa and Rick) to get back together. (ie: cheat on Ilsa's husband) The central climax of the movie is when you hope Ilsa leaves the Country with Rick, not her Husband, Victor.

-Cider House Rules: A married couple takes in an orphan into their home. The Husband goes off to fight WW2, and leaves Wife home to take care of farm, slaves, and orphan. Audience is encouraged to cheer on the Orphan committing Adultry with the Wife as the Husband is off fighting the Nazis.

Pick your favorite contemporary "Love/Romance" movie.....have fun.

re: #140 ethanxxx

The Food Channel = Porn for Fat People

You don't have to be overweight to be aroused by The Food Channel. In fact, I'll wager that skinny, hungry folk get more excited by it than the obese. That's just a guess, though.
/

re: #76 zombie

I liked my caption for this photo:

"The Holy Grail of protest photos: woman wearing a kaffiyeh while carrying a '9/11 Truth' sign!"

BOY DO I HATE TROOTHERS

ok percolate, i'm out. bbl

re: #139 David Simon

re: #147 looking closely

Thanks...

re: #157 Athos

Many thanks, Athos.

Yes, they certainly would use the popularity of their fashion statement as proof that the people of the world supported Their Cause. How can you deny the Palestinian people a state, when everybody loves them so, and wears the keffiiyah as a sign of solidarity with them?

Fashion stigmas are important. The swastika, when it appears at all, outside of some European neo-Nazi rally, is sported by low-life, tattooed bikers (outcasts of society), or by Nazis baddies in the latest "Indiana Skywalker and the Raiders of the Lost Box Office" movie---i.e., people nobody would idolize, or think "cool". (Yeah, some have tried the "Hindu symbol" schtick, but that just doesn't fly.)

On the other hand, movie stars, popular chefs, writers, activists, politician's daughters and other absolutely fabulous folk have been spotted wearing Keffiyahs, peace symbols and Che T-shirts. A hip coffee shop in Santa Monica calls itself, "Chairman Mao's"; can you imagine an eatery calling itself "Himmler's Hofbrau", or "Adolph's Gas Oven?" A columnist for the OC Weekly used the moniker "Commie Girl"; can you imagine a hip girl writer dubbing herself, "Facist Femme" or "Mussolini Momma?"

Making this stuff acceptable does have consequences. It might not seem important---a scarf is just a scarf, right?---but it is, and it needs to get called on.

You can just imagine how pissed the Left would be if it became hip to sport Crusader regalia: crosses, T-shirts with Richard the Lionheart, Baldwin IV or Jan Sobieski, Holy Sepulchre pendants, etc. And, of course, they wouldn't be mollified if anybody told them, "Awww, c'mon, it's just a T-shirt/pendant/cross whatever! It's just fashion!"

It's never just fashion, and they know that.

re: #173 frodolives

No problem, friend!

:>)

re: #178 Slumbering Behemoth

You don't have to be overweight to be aroused by The Food Channel. In fact, I'll wager that skinny, hungry folk get more excited by it than the obese. That's just a guess, though.
/

I've noticed that most of the televisions at the fitness center where I work out at are tuned to the Food Channel.
:D

I love the Food Network. They have fun shows.

I quess I'm stupid. (don't answer that) But under Islamist laws women are barely second class citizens, yet American women choose that symbol as stylish.
Go figure.

re: #185 WriterMom

I love it too!

(I confess, I'm not too crazy about Rachel Ray. I do get a kick out of Alton Brown.)

These folks probably have a problem if you say Merry Christmas or Happy Hanukkah to their keffiyeh-wearing selves.

re: #186 littleO

Honestly, I've given up trying to figure out the left on this one. (I'm still scratching my head over "Queers for Palestine----don't these guys know how Islam treats gays?)

re: #187 TalkinKamel

Kamel-you need an avitar!

I'm confused... which of these kaffiyeh's is chic and which ones are a fashion faux pas?

A red, white and blue kaffiyeh
A rainbow kaffiyeh
A confederate kaffiyeh
A Chicago Bears kaffiyeh
A Che Guvara kaffiyeh
A pink kaffiyeh

Please advise ASAP. I have an important soiree to attend in Denver this summer.

re: #147 looking closely

It became a symbol of Palestinian nationalism (not necessarily terrorism) when Yassir Arafat personally made it one

.

And the swastika became a symbol of evil when Hitler made it one.

re: #156 J.S.

I think this topic was pretty much beaten to death the other day. It was Arafat who popularized the kayyifeh (white cotton with a distinctive spider web or checkered black-line pattern)...Arafat the father of all terrorists -- the one who popularized air plane hijackings and glorified terrorist murderers. He used his kayyifeh as a symbol for "Palestine" -- when he wore it, he folded it in such a way as to show a map of "Palestine" -- without, of course, Israel...that was his agenda -- to wipe Israel off the map...to eliminate Israel -- push the Jews into the sea (just part and parcel of the Muslim Brotherhood agenda)...(yet, of course, to the MSM he'd talk about "peace"...meanwhile he'd arm his terrorist militias and send them out to murder Israelis.)

I understand completely (see my last post #147).

The point is, as with all symbolism, context is everything here.

If you are wearing one of these draped around your head in the desert, its one thing.

If you are wearing one at a political rally in Berkeley CA, its a totally different thing.

Rachel Ray wearing one in a Dunkin' Donuts ad doesn't, to my mind, fall into category #1. She likely falls into category #3, which is "clueless adherence to current fashion trend".

re: #186 littleO

I quess I'm stupid. (don't answer that) But under Islamist laws women are barely second class citizens, yet American women choose that symbol as stylish.
Go figure.

I don't think they have a clue, really. I know my 18 year old daughter and her friends don't. Or didn't until I read them the riot act and threatened to use them to strangle them if they wore them in my presence.
:D

re: #189 TalkinKamel

Or all the liberal Jews with the ACLU, the mind just freezes...it's a complete disconnect.

re: #194 redstateredneck

Good technique.

re: #196 WriterMom

Good technique.

A mom's gotta do what a mom's gotta do.

re: #194 redstateredneck

I don't think they have a clue, really. I know my 18 year old daughter and her friends don't. Or didn't until I read them the riot act and threatened to use them to strangle them if they wore them in my presence.
:D

* * *
Giving your children a cluebat is the kindest & best parenting.

It is pretty disgusting that people identify and ally themselves with terrorists and murderers.
But you know, people wear these in Israel too. I mean jewish, israeli, army-serving, regular citizens.
Why? Just because it’s fashionable and they don’t think/care about it.
While I can’t say I like it, and quite honestly it makes me cringe every time, I don’t think it’s such an important bad thing.

Having the kuffiah worn by random (even if they sympathize, who the hell can connect between Ricky Martin and the palestinians?) people marginalizes it, makes it just another commercial vehicle to sell stuff to the clueless.
You don’t really think that everyone who wears a Che t-shirt is spreading communist propaganda, reading ‘The Capital’ like the Bible, and planning the world revolution?
No, most likely it’s just some ignorant kids.

Nowadays Che Guevara is no different from a Mickey Mouse on a t-shirt, a capitalist mass-produced item – everything he ‘fought’ against, which hopefully makes him spin in his grave.
Same thing will eventually happen to the kuffiah, it will become a meaningless fashion/novelty item.
The western culture is very good at absorbing other people’s cultural symbols and turning them into cheap crap, which renders them hollow and harmless.

re: #16 Charles

They're mind dead, Charles.

The Kaffiyeh has become the latest fashion statement for the left, their undying support for the downtrodden of the world. We have to remember that the US represents everything that's bad in the world. The Kaffiyeh is proudly worn by the left along with Che shirts, handbags and flags. This is nothing more than an "in your face" poke at anyone who supports our country and traditional values. These people never think about what Arafat and Che really stood for and how many Innocent people they killed to create that dream.
I remember in the 60's when my father, a USAF Lt. Col., nearly kicked my ass for wearing a patch on my pants. That patch was a round American flag with the peace symbol on top of the flag. He quickly reminded me how disrespectful that patch was and even more so since it was located on the seat of my pants...needless to say that patch was off within five minutes. I was young and not thinking clearly.

re: #182 TalkinKamel

It's never just fashion, and they know that.

Exactly. It's a concerted intent. Depending on the issue, it is to condition the people into accepting behavior that was formally rightly stigmatized and counterproductive for society (Great Examples here by WrathofG-d in order to effect societal change. On other issues, the intent is to demonize and modify behavior and beliefs to work against something that can effectively oppose the application of the progressive fascist agenda.

It's not by accident that we are starting to see a number of books that are looking to redefine the 'Good War' (WW2) to re-position it (as Buchanan is actively trying to do) as a war not because of fascism but because of the failures and faults of UK and USA. It's also not by accident that academia has been a focus of the fascist left for over 50 years - in that position they can re-educate the masses in the messages that support their agenda.

Apparently according to the left, the US is no longer good, and there is really no evil except the evil to oppose their desires to establish power and society in their model. Multiculturalism, inability to make judgments, the need to redefine the norms of society, free speech only for those who speak a certain way, old evils are not the evil they were thought to be - and those who saw that evil firsthand are no longer around to confront the lies, etc.. so failed ideologies of the past can rise again with all of the things that help defeat them before effectively neutered.

Speaking of Che'...
/puke

re: #186 littleO

I quess I'm stupid. (don't answer that) But under Islamist laws women are barely second class citizens, yet American women choose that symbol as stylish.
Go figure.

And only the men are allowed to wear kaffiyehs. The women wear the headcoverings or a bag. The kaffiyehs is never just draped artistically about the neck of a woman. Of course, her husband is free to drape it in preparation for strangulation for her transgression, but that's another topic.

I prefer my coffee non-kaffiyehinated.

re: #161 debutaunt

Would a necktie with a tasteful image of KKK hoods be ok with you?

What in the hell are you talking about?

Reality check: 90% of the American population have no idea of the meaning behind the different color of head scarves.

The idea that we need to scream about people who wear a scarf is ridiculous.

Now, if someone knows the meaning behind the scarf, we can rightfully harangue them.

However, I seriously doubt that Dunkin' Doughnuts or Rachael Ray had any idea of the meaning of the scarf.

re: #184 redstateredneck

I've noticed that most of the televisions at the fitness center where I work out at are tuned to the Food Channel.
:D

It's a conspiracy perpetrated by the Fitness-Industrial Complex and the Elders of the Grocer Cabal!
//

re: #189 TalkinKamel

Honestly, I've given up trying to figure out the left on this one. (I'm still scratching my head over "Queers for Palestine----don't these guys know how Islam treats gays?)

Yes, but they are here in the US- how their brothers and sisters are murdered in Islamic nations isn't important. How do any women hre support countries that allow- promote- FGM and women as chattel and that encourages(I believe this) "honor" murders?

re: #201 Athos

Apparently according to the left, the US is no longer good,

It's more like the US has never been good. Since it's inception, the US has downtrodden the indigenous peoples, wallowed in slavery and the arrogance of empire, and promoted the wicked unfairness of capitalism.

According to me, they suck. :-)

The well-dressed terrorist would coordinate his kaffiyeh with a matching suicide vest and a pair or Richard Reid shoes.

Charles,
The idea of Palo-chic is disgusting to me, and I've seen examples of it worn deliberately by St Pancake types (mostly in Hollywood) , but I'm not sure that Ray's headgear qualifies..... granted, the checkered pattern is similar, but I bet that Ray had no clue and just grabbed a scarf.
I am not a fan of hers, btw.....most of her food seems uninspired and she does suck up to the lib/Dem contingent. Maybe Susan Sarandon sent it to her after a guest spot on the show.

re: #209 Name The Enemy

The well-dressed terrorist would coordinate his kaffiyeh with a matching suicide vest and a pair or Richard Reid shoes.

That would be so Hot.

re: #207 madisonsfriend

As I said, I've given up trying to figure it out. I simply can't get into the minds of the women who think like this.

I'm beginning to think being on the Left really is a mental illness.

they have a song to go with the scarf..
"Nothing could be finah than to be in Palest-eye-Nah
in the morning...
Nothing could be sweetah than to gaze on a Kafiyeh
in the morning..."

re: #205 CEQAttorney

maybe neither Rachel Ray, nor Dunkin' Doughnuts, had any idea of what the scarf means, but I suspect somebody did---the fashion department, the PR people, whoever.

And, at this point, after decades of Islamic warfare, and terrorism, Americans in general know what that scarf means, even if dum-dum Rachel Ray doesn't.

re: #190 WriterMom

I know, I know! (Sniffs, blows loudly into polka-dot hanky), I've been a bad, lazy Kamel of late!

Yes, yes, I know! Liberal Jews, gays, feminists, etc., supporting the very people sworn to wipe them out! The mind croggles. I really don't know what to make of them! My head just can't wrap itself around that kind of double-think! HOW CAN I PICK OUT AN AVATAR WHEN I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THIS SORT OF INSANITY? AIIIIIEEEEE!

(Dances off stage left, spinning on hump.)

re: #201 Athos

Excellent post. By the way, I'm glad you mentioned the recent historical revisionist movement, to portray WWII as being the fault of the allies, not Hitler or the Axis powers. Who knows, maybe we'll get trendy little swastikas yet! (Shudder!).

And, of course, the point isn't did Rachel know what the scarf means, or didn't she? (Doesn't the woman ever watch the news? Is she too busy whipping up 30-minute meals to follow what's going on in the world?) The point, as you pointed out, is that it's de-stigmatizing a symbol of evil, making it hip and fashionable. Whether Rachel Ray was aware of the symbolism of the scarf or not just doesn't matter. She's a popular celebrity. People follow her recipes, they'll probably follow her fashion sense too (a lot of them), and they'll get the impression, subconsciously, if not consciously, that radical Islam is a kinda hip, cool thing. Rachel Ray supports it, after all. . .

re: #207 madisonsfriend

As Athos points out in Post #201, many on the left, feminist and/or otherwise, simply hate the US, and refuse to see anything good about it. (They're even trying to debunk its role in WWII at the moment.) As far as I can figure them out at all, my guess that their reasoning, such as it is, is along the lines of "The enemy of my enemy, America, must be my friend."

(As for why they hate America so, my guess there is they've been poisoned by Marxist thinking, and the influence of KGB propaganda on our culture, and the effect of Gramscian thinking, in academia. But, again, I find it hard to wrap my mind around the way they think---or don't think.)

re: #205 CEQAttorney

What in the hell are you talking about?

Reality check: 90% of the American population have no idea of the meaning behind the different color of head scarves.

The idea that we need to scream about people who wear a scarf is ridiculous.

Now, if someone knows the meaning behind the scarf, we can rightfully harangue them.

However, I seriously doubt that Dunkin' Doughnuts or Rachael Ray had any idea of the meaning of the scarf.

I'm talking about symbols. I didn't scream about anything and I suspected that Rachel Ray was clueless about what the scarf meant to many people. Dunkin Donuts took down the ad because the symbol offended a lot of customers.

re: #218 debutaunt

I agree that RR didn't know about the meaning and it probably was just put on her by wardrobe, but that doesn't change the impact that a symbol can have on society.

Its interesting that the same people who probably completely freaked out over the "nooses" (a symbol of murder, violence, racism and hatred) at that school a couple months ago (and rightfully so) would excuse this symbol of murder, violence, racism, and hatred.

One argument that keeps popping up is the "well, everyone in my town is wearing one, so that makes it alright"

The problem with that argument is it's not an argument but an observation. I could care less how mainstream the scarf is when the symbolism remains.

If anything, this "mainstreaming" that is occuring with the kaffiyeh, indicates that we need to keep bringing these issues up and spreading the knowledge we have to others.

re: #177 WrathofG-d

Pick your favorite contemporary "Love/Romance" movie.....have fun.

I think you're on to something. This could be fun:

Pretty Woman - "I haven't met the right guy yet; so I'll just whore around until I do."

re: #220 gman

I wonder if this response is actually a very interesting understanding of how the "kids"/populace thinks today.

Its a world of Truth being whatever Wiki says, and Wiki being nothing more than whatever is most popular.

A world where whatever you believe can be given an audience of millions (through blogs, and net) , and the actual Truth is never called into question.

Etc., etc., etc.,

re: #222 WrathofG-d

I wonder if this response is actually a very interesting understanding of how the "kids"/populace thinks today.

Its a world of Truth being whatever Wiki says, and Wiki being nothing more than whatever is most popular.

A world where whatever you believe can be given an audience of millions (through blogs, and net) , and the actual Truth is never called into question.

Etc., etc., etc.,

Good point, though very frightening.

We, the people, have become our own Big Brother. Our knowledge is becoming more and more based on "popular knowledge".

At least we have LGF as our safe haven of critical thinking.

re: #221 David Simon

Not to mention the whole "Sex in the City" industry, or the appalling garbage on "reality" TV, such as "Flavah of Love", "Girls next door" (Blonde skank, in a fluffy pink bedroom: "I just love Hugh Hefner! He's such a funny guy! He gave me a diamond necklance for my (bleeping) 20th birthday, and told me I could (bleeping) party all night long with my (bleeping) frirends wherever I (bleeping) want to! (Bleep, bleep, bleep, BLEEEEEP!)"

re: #224 TalkinKamel

Not to mention the whole "Sex in the City" industry, or the appalling garbage on "reality" TV, such as "Flavah of Love", "Girls next door" (Blonde skank, in a fluffy pink bedroom: "I just love Hugh Hefner! He's such a funny guy! He gave me a diamond necklance for my (bleeping) 20th birthday, and told me I could (bleeping) party all night long with my (bleeping) frirends wherever I (bleeping) want to! (Bleep, bleep, bleep, BLEEEEEP!)"

Good grief Fritzi, is that what I'm missing by not watching television anymore? I never thought I'd live to see the day that Jerry Springer trash would go prime time.

re: #205 CEQAttorney

I think most folks who have made the argument, are disagreeing with the possibility of naivete.

However, it is not happenstance either.

Truthfully, how is it that all the examples cited here, and at Malkin's site can just be folks wearing a similar scarf?

Many have hit the nail on the head.

It is about mainstreaming, and legitimizing a symbol that when left to stand on it's own merit, most people would reject.

No different than any other symbolic gesture of the past, masquerading as the Cause Celebre for ignorant people who feel the need to get as close to the reality of their craft, (losing weight for a movie role) but are too lazy to actually invest the time to understand recent American history, or world history for that matter.

They have modeled this after the red ribbon for aids.

The fact so many elite have traded intellectual honesty for a flash in the pan provides for the advancement for something like this scarf which emulated such a disgusting human being like Arafat.

"Those who forget the past are damned to repeat it"

It seems that the term "Fat Bombs" will have new meanings with Dunkin' Donuts.

I understand that Rachael Ray is famous for using EVOO (Extra VIRGIN Olive Oil in all of her recipes). Do you think that she is going to convince Dunkin' Donuts to use 72 bottles of EVOO when they provide refreshments for suicide bombers. Maybe they'll eat themselves to death before they can detonate.

Finally, could there be a Rachel (or Rachael) conspiracy?
First there was Rachel Corrie, a.k.a. Saint Pancake who committed "suicide by Caterpillar" wearing her Kafiyyah. Now there's Rachael Ray, the Kafiyyah clad donut (ass)hole. Sounds like a possible Carb Conspiracy to me.

Anyway, it's time to switch to Krispy Kreme!
Rabbbi

Moonbat Thoughts.

---looking through the closet for something to wear; spot my brown hoodie with swastikas on the arms, Che' on the front, ObamaWeAreWhatWeAreWaitingFor and a hammer and sickle on the back, and hoodie hood printed like a kafiyeh with the little bo-daggits hanging around my face ----

All dressed up, but where to go? A journey of a thousand miles begins by. . . turning off my computer, sneaking up the basement stairs, and stealing Mom's Escort station wagon. Sweet Freedom - if Mom doesn't catch me on the way out.

Charles,

Have you or anyone else noticed the Pontiac Vibe commercial running on TV where the young black kid is featured wearing a Kaffiyeh during the entire ad? He is a dj/rapper and enters and exits the car out of all of the doors and hatchbacks. Why hasn't anyone mentioned this?

AOTC

re: #225 David Simon

It's worse than Jerry Springer, now. Hey, I didn't even get into "Boy Meets Boy", or the "I love the 70's/80/90's" specials on VH1. (washed up minor T.V. star, burbling on "I Love the 70's"; "I mean, like, I had my first sexual experience while watching the Brady Bunch. I mean, like to me, Brady Bunch was always about sex, ya know? I also did some really kinky stuff while watching "Dukes of Hazard", and I'd always smoke crack while watching Mork n' Mindy, cuz, y'know, the 70's, they were like having sex on crack. . . say, I think Mindy was an alien too. She was hot!")

You're not missing a damn thing. I wish I could persuade hubby to get rid of our T.V.

The daughter of Aztlanista wet dream Juan McCain's daughter Meghan sporting a keffiyeh. That Cindy is so dim as to not know the symbolism is troubling: Meghan and Cindy and Meghan.

In 2008, a black and white Palestinian-style keffiyeh IS a hate statement. It has been a hate statement since the founding of the PLO over 40 years ago.

Ignorance isn't an excuse. That Urban Outfitters portrays the keffiyeh as "Anti-War" is obscene.

Rachel Ray wasn't wearing houndstooth or tartain or spots or skulls or zebra or Fendi or Burberry.

re: #153 petero

Which was precisely my point. The fact the piece insinuated that Charles thought that all Arabs were terrorists is absurd. Sorry if I didn't express it well.

re: #193 looking closely

but I don't know if you understand...not when I read: "It became a symbol of Palestinian nationalism (not necessarily terrorism) when Yassir Arafat personally made it one."

When wasn't Arafat a terrorist? Arafat began his "career" as a terrorist. (Have you read any biographies -- unbiased ones -- about Arafat? Do you know of Arafat's "accomplishments?" He was the Number 2 killer of Jews -- second only to Hitler.) The "Pali" kayyifeh is Arafat's personal symbol (that's how he wound it around his head as his head-dress -- completely distinctively and originally -- no one else ever wore it in the manner in which Arafat did -- the way he wore the kaffiyeh was to smbolize the wiping out of the State of Israel which was/is the Mandate of the PLO...founded 1964 as a terrorist organization...and that's prior to the Six Day War.) I don't have time to search for the image of that F--- head's headdress -- you can use Google to look it up -- under images...(you'll see how Arafat wore it, and now you know what it symbolized.)

Gah, the story has hit on the Yahoo! boards and the ignorance and leftwing hatred is dripping like burning pitch. So many people are utterly clueless as to the whole meaning and point of the damn thing, too. When did America become so friggin' ignorant?

CNN is breaking that Dunkin Donuts has pulled the ad, and they (CNN pundits )
are shaking their heads in amazement at the ignorance......
They will have to educate the masses, I guess.......
/sarc/

Dunkin Donuts is at least partially owned by the Carlyle Group. See [Link: www.dunkindonuts.com...]

The Carlyle Group sold part of itself last year (raising capital to stay afloat just like Citi, Merrill, etc.) to Mubadala Development, which a sovereign wealth fund out of Abu Dhabi. [Link: www.carlyle.com...]

In a world of strange coincidences, in December last year, Iran was showing off a "supercomputer" it claimed to have built on its own and was generous enough to show photos of the computer on its web site. The photos showed boxes, stacked against a wall, of AMD computer chips used to make the computer. AMD is based in the US, and it is illegal for them to sell chips to Iran. The boxes bore the shipping mark of AMD's Middle East distributor based in Abu Dhabi.
[Link: www.computerworld.com...]

Last November Mubadala also purchased 8% of Advanced Micro Devices.

[Link: www.computerworld.com...]

So now the latest lefty talking point is

"Rachel is not a terrorist"

.

Gee, ya think?

Leave it to the group-think to totally miss the point.

They have Pulled the Add
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

They just had a piece on Fox news on this story and in a kettle calling the pot black the liberal guy accused the woman from Canada, who was explaining what the keffayieh represented, of being too PC. he then went on to say he thought most people did not know what it represented and tried to dismiss it as just something worn in the Middle East.
He hasn't been on a college campus recently has he?