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NYT Blogs the Kaffiyeh Kontroversy

Thu, May 29, 2008 at 5:47:12 pm PDT

New York Times “blog” The Lede has a surprisingly even-handed (for them) article on the kaffiyeh controversy: Doughnuts: The Third Rail of American Politics? - The Lede - Breaking News - New York Times Blog.

And yes, I’m still getting hate mail over this one. Who knew there were so many rabid Rachael Ray fans out there?

Her publicist must be chortling in delight right now.

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1 Sharmuta  Thu, May 29, 2008 5:48:35pm
Alas, the two sides in this debate seemed unlikely to find common ground. The right is outraged, the left is dumbfounded. Here’s an idea: chalk it up to a crime of passion — for doughnuts.

This ain't about the donuts.... it's about a terrorist symbol!

2 average_guy  Thu, May 29, 2008 5:48:53pm

I thought covering her neckline would be a move that was against her best interest...but I'm obviously a sexist, so what can I say?

3 godfrey  Thu, May 29, 2008 5:49:47pm

Now's the time for Rachel Ray Inc. to introduce America to the dark arts of the kitchen. Subvert the dominant culinary paradigm!

4 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, May 29, 2008 5:50:17pm
5 pat  Thu, May 29, 2008 5:50:37pm

The left uses this as an excuse for ridicule, while tacitly acknowledging they understand the symbolism completely. In fact most think they can read the mind of those that disagree with them. BS

6 Charles  Thu, May 29, 2008 5:51:01pm

Notice I spelled her name right. I owe her that much.

7 WrathofG-d  Thu, May 29, 2008 5:51:24pm

The fact that we cannot agree that this obvious symbol of anti-Western/pro-Phakestinian ideals is a bad thing that should be shunned is to me a huge red flag that we are not accomplishing the necessity of acknowledging and knowing who the enemy is and uniting to defeat it.

Although this symbol is not the enemy itself, its is a symbol on its behalf.

Throughout all this I feel as if it is 1934 and I have just seen a prominent actor wearing a Swastika and when I complain that it is a Nazi symbol I instead get a response going through the thousands of years this symbol was used by Asians and Hindu.

If we can't get it together...we are going to have some real trouble defeating the enemy.

8 pat  Thu, May 29, 2008 5:51:33pm

Cooked one her recipes the other day. Very good.

9 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, May 29, 2008 5:51:40pm

The comments below are amazing, right in line with the Times reader. See if you can spot Cognitos.

10 godfrey  Thu, May 29, 2008 5:51:49pm

"Rachael"? Ok.

11 Sharmuta  Thu, May 29, 2008 5:51:58pm

Leave it to the nyt to spin this issue more towards nice, light, fluffy donuts instead of taking a deeper look into the meaning of the symbol that actually caused this controversy. It's really shameful.

12 godfrey  Thu, May 29, 2008 5:52:14pm

I cooked her Chicken Noodle Soup recipe. Bleh.

13 psyop  Thu, May 29, 2008 5:52:28pm

They should do an ad with some white guys wearing white robes and see how it goes over.

14 Charles  Thu, May 29, 2008 5:52:45pm

"All publicity is good publicity, as long as they spell your name right."

-- often attributed to P. T. Barnum

15 Gang of One  Thu, May 29, 2008 5:52:47pm

Are there still those who get excited by the idea of RadicalChic® ?

16 Alouette  Thu, May 29, 2008 5:53:21pm

It's just an ugly accessory worn by a silly bimbo with no fashion sense.

17 godfrey  Thu, May 29, 2008 5:53:53pm

re: #14 Charles

At this point, it's purely etiquette. What other "Rachael" or "Rachel" Rays exist in MSM World?

18 sngnsgt  Thu, May 29, 2008 5:54:06pm

It's like Michael without the 'Mi'

19 seekeroftruth  Thu, May 29, 2008 5:54:17pm

re: #7 WrathofG-d

It doesn't help that per the State Dept we're not supposed to name the enemy.
We've all said it here - how can you fight a war when no one is allowed to say who we are fighting?

20 Nevergiveup  Thu, May 29, 2008 5:54:19pm

re: #16 Alouette

It's just an ugly accessory worn by a silly bimbo with no fashion sense.

There is a pie joke in there, but.....

21 psyop  Thu, May 29, 2008 5:54:46pm

re: #7 WrathofG-d

The swastika being subverted by the Nazis is a perfect and concise analogy. Just because it WAS harmless and may still be used innocently, it has come to represent vile and hateful things.

As with the kaffiyeh.

22 godfrey  Thu, May 29, 2008 5:55:01pm

re: #19 seekeroftruth

Oh fer pete's sake. You can bloody well fight a war without naming the enemy explicitly. This isn't WWII.

23 godfrey  Thu, May 29, 2008 5:56:10pm

It's like wearing the Jolly Roger during our war against the Barbary Pirates, no?

24 seekeroftruth  Thu, May 29, 2008 5:56:19pm

re: #22 godfrey

Yup - it's WWIII of WWIV depending on who you talk to.

25 psyop  Thu, May 29, 2008 5:57:22pm

re: #23 godfrey

It's like wearing the Jolly Roger during our war against the Barbary Pirates, no?

Except the JR was never meant for anything other than to inspire fear.

26 gop_patriot  Thu, May 29, 2008 5:57:56pm

re: #6 Charles

LOL

27 jcm  Thu, May 29, 2008 5:58:11pm

Okay I'm a cave man.

Just what is Ray's claim to 15 minutes of fame?

Other than posing in a "peace scarf" in front of the OR Capital Building.

28 Gang of One  Thu, May 29, 2008 5:58:18pm

Once upon a time, you could wear a kaffiyeh, and nobody made an issue of it. Until the LLL started assigning a political identity to it by referring to it as a 'freedom scarf', or some such idiocy, it was just another piece of cloth from the ME. Now it is worn precisely to show solidarity with the splodeys and their murderous ideology. You can thank the liberal left for turning everything into a political statement.

29 Sharmuta  Thu, May 29, 2008 5:58:25pm

re: #23 godfrey

For me- as a woman- it's more than just palestinian solidarity. You're wearing a scarf of a culture that oppresses women. So I find it disgusting on a couple levels.

30 Cognito  Thu, May 29, 2008 5:58:28pm

re: #9 unrealizedviewpoint

The comments below are amazing, right in line with the Times reader. See if you can spot Cognitos.

Picador.

Easier than a direct statement of your own, I suppose.

31 Charles  Thu, May 29, 2008 5:58:50pm

Rachael Ray is one of O'Reilly's "pinheads" tonight.

32 jcm  Thu, May 29, 2008 5:59:17pm

re: #22 godfrey

Oh fer pete's sake. You can bloody well fight a war without naming the enemy explicitly. This isn't WWII.

re: #24 seekeroftruth

Cold War -- WWIII.
GWoT -- WWIV.

By my count.

33 psyop  Thu, May 29, 2008 5:59:39pm

re: #31 Charles

Rachael Ray is one of O'Reilly's "pinheads" tonight.

I didn't realize he would be elevating her status.

34 hrhamilton  Thu, May 29, 2008 5:59:45pm

I think Rachael Ray is as cute as a bug in a rug. I also think she is probably not the sharpest tool in the bag. She may not have known what she was getting into.

The fact that we can not agree on our enemy is a cultural failure. Education has failed to ground our people in our own history. Churches have failed to teach people between what is right and wrong. Politicians have failed to educate the public on the dangers this country faces.

The result is that there are more idiots in the USA now that you can shake a stick at.

35 Idle Drifter  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:00:37pm

Is it so hard for to understand that the donuts are fine and it's the scarf being worn is the problem?

36 Gang of One  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:01:26pm

re: #34 hrhamilton

That's because the LLL have politicized everything from the vagina to, well, scarves.

37 Nevergiveup  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:01:54pm

re: #34 hrhamilton

I think Rachael Ray is as cute as a bug in a rug. I also think she is probably not the sharpest tool in the bag. She may not have known what she was getting into.

The fact that we can not agree on our enemy is a cultural failure. Education has failed to ground our people in our own history. Churches have failed to teach people between what is right and wrong. Politicians have failed to educate the public on the dangers this country faces.

The result is that there are more idiots in the USA now that you can shake a stick at.

I think that is the biggest mistake President Bush made. Not naming the enemy and white washing radical Islam from the get go. And it went down hill from there.

38 Sharmuta  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:01:55pm

re: #35 Idle Drifter

Is it so hard for to understand that the donuts are fine and it's the scarf being worn is the problem?

Apparently, yes. But this is the nyt we're talking about- obfuscating the real issue is what they do best.

39 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:02:14pm
40 acapesket123  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:02:26pm

O'Reilly is too stupid to really call Ms. Ray a "pinhead".
So many ssues pass him by due to his fear and loathing of the blogs.

41 psyop  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:02:37pm

re: #34 hrhamilton

The result is that there are more idiots in the USA now that you can shake a stick at.

You could shake a stick at them, they would just begin to debate the meaning of it. Whether it was a fair expression of protected speech, or perhaps the shaking stick represented some psychological failure. Maybe their was some primal spiritual significance to shaking a stick...?

/sarc

42 seekeroftruth  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:02:43pm

re: #32 jcm

Thanks !

43 WrathofG-d  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:03:05pm

re: #16 Alouette


Wait, wait, wait. We should not put this Kaffiyeh thing on Rachel Ray. If you know anything about the entertainment industry you know that the actors (talent) are nothing but puppets.

She doesn't pick her clothing, she doesn't pick what she is supposed to say, she doesn't pick anything. She shows up, and has a bunch of other people instruct her on all of that.

The Kiffiyeh being used is the problem....not the person that wore it.

44 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:03:42pm

I see that the commenters at the NYT pretty much all drink from the same poisoned tub of koolaid.

When you fail to recognize the influence of creeping islamization in western society, by the time its pervasiveness has truly alarmed you, it's just way too late.

All these "progressive thinkers" out there had better get real soon, or they will get exactly what they are asking for, which is something that they would never ever want if they truly understood what it would mean to them.

45 hrhamilton  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:03:49pm

I am all for politicizing right back at the LLL. The problem is no Republicans want to get down and dirty.

46 Grammy Cracker  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:03:57pm

GOOD EVENING, LIZARDS!

I'm baffled by the hate mail from Rachael's 'fans'... as far as I can recall, Charles never attacked Rachael Ray, just the symbolic attire she was wearing. Some posters here may have had fun at Rachael's expense; I don't know. Most of us took the position that Ms. Ray probably didn't understand the offensive nature of her stylists' wardrobe choice. So...what gives with the hate mail?

The very LAST thing Rachael Ray needs is MORE publicity. Her Joker-from-Batman grin is EVERY damn place. I used to like her a little. Now she's just obnoxious, and ubiquitous. GACK!

47 Charles  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:04:40pm

re: #43 WrathofG-d

The Kiffiyeh being used is the problem....not the person that wore it.

Exactly.

48 sngnsgt  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:05:19pm

OT
McClellan might vote for Obama?

49 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:05:20pm

re: #30 Cognito

Picador.

Easier than a direct statement of your own, I suppose.

I've noticed you say things just like the above statement an awful lot when addressing someone who has issue with your position. WTF

50 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:06:27pm

re: #36 Gang of One

That's because the LLL have politicized everything from the vagina to, well, scarves.

I was subjected to a tv ad earlier today that featured two bright-eyed and presumably intelligent women discussing their new birth control pills which reduce their periods to only four a year.

We are doomed.

51 jaunte  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:06:31pm

The Lede (NYT) says:

On Tuesday, Dunkin’ Donuts announced that it was dropping the advertisement. But they also made clear that this was all a big misunderstanding. “Rachael Ray is wearing a black-and-white silk scarf with a paisley design,” the company said in a statement, according to The Boston Globe. “Absolutely no symbolism was intended.”


The Boston Globe says:

Said the suits in a statement: ‘‘In a recent online ad, Rachael Ray is wearing a black-and-white silk scarf with a paisley design. It was selected by her stylist for the advertising shoot.


[Link: www.boston.com...]

Has anyone actually seen a high-res photo of this 'paisley' scarf, or are the reporters just repeating what the company said, without checking the original scarf? This is just sloppy.

52 offendi  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:06:49pm

Imagine Martha Stewart wearing " The Taliban Are Cool" t-shirt on one of her shows. Would never happen.

Fact is I find it incredibly amazing that this attractive idiot, the ladies from "The View", and leftist women in the media in general haven't set up a charity that would provide places of refuge for muslim women facing honor killings, genital mutilation, and the like.

The rights of women only matter to these women when they dovetail perfectly with their leftist views and occur in the western countries it seems.

53 Cognito  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:07:17pm

re: #49 unrealizedviewpoint

I've noticed you say things just like the above statement an awful lot when addressing someone who has issue with your position. WTF

Really. I don't believe I've ever brought up another commenter on a thread. Ever.

Please feel free to prove me wrong.

54 seekeroftruth  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:07:19pm

re: #37 Nevergiveup

I think that is the biggest mistake President Bush made. Not naming the enemy and white washing radical Islam from the get go. And it went down hill from there.

It doesn't look like it's going to get better:

Jihad Watch is talking about " The great war against nothing in particular"

"Security chief decries ‘war on terror,’" by Demetri Sevastopulo in the Financial Times, May 28 - The west needs a more comprehensive strategy to counter al-Qaeda propaganda and the US should stop using the term “war on terror”, according to a top intelligence official.


[Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]

55 FightingBack  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:07:25pm

Rachael's Fashion Sense.

(Note the stockings, please.)

56 looking closely  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:07:27pm

Honestly, I wouldn't know Ray if I bumped into her.

Isn't her claim to fame making "orgasm face" when eating things on the TV screen?

57 yochanan  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:08:03pm

When my boys were rug rats i was known to use a' piece of shit scarf' as a diaper cover. good use for it i think.

58 stevieray  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:08:18pm

re: #28 Gang of One

Once upon a time, you could wear a kaffiyeh, and nobody made an issue of it. Until the LLL started assigning a political identity to it by referring to it as a 'freedom scarf', or some such idiocy, it was just another piece of cloth from the ME. Now it is worn precisely to show solidarity with the splodeys and their murderous ideology. You can thank the liberal left for turning everything into a political statement.

You got it. This only became an issue because the MSM decided to portray terrorists, and their symbols, as freedom fighters. Only a mind terminally addled by deconstructionism [or Islamism] could possibly see them as such. It is the job of the righteous to thwart the lies of the corrupted.

59 sngnsgt  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:08:40pm

re: #56 looking closely

Honestly, I wouldn't know Ray if I bumped into her.

Isn't her claim to fame making "orgasm face" when eating things on the TV screen?

Yea, that's the face, she makes it on TV too?

60 Gang of One  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:08:48pm

re: #45 hrhamilton

I dunno. The LLL politicize everything because that is the only way they can frame an argument -- by making it a matter of the oppressor vs. the oppressed. It's just the same old tired Marxist dialectic applied to every conceivable idea and object. Refuting and demolishing their 'arguments' is more important, and to do that we need to marshal all our facts -- historical, scientific, literary, etc. LLL and facts are like water and oil: they just don't mix well together.

61 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:09:07pm

re: #53 Cognito

Really. I don't believe I've ever brought up another commenter on a thread. Ever.

Please feel free to prove me wrong.

How dense are you? I'm referring to the comment, not the commenter.

62 Nevergiveup  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:09:09pm

The Kiffiyeh being used is the problem....not the person that wore it.
Unless the person wearing it is doing it to make a political point. I don't think Rachael Ray was doing that. On the other hand being uneducated and uninformed is not way to go through life!

63 Alouette  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:09:16pm

re: #55 FightingBack

Rachael's Fashion Sense.

(Note the stockings, please.)

So, she cut up that dress and wore it as a scarf?

64 Slumbering Behemoth  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:09:17pm

re: #55 FightingBack

Rachael's Fashion Sense.

(Note the stockings, please.)

Stockings?

65 looking closely  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:09:19pm

re: #56 looking closely

Honestly, I wouldn't know Ray if I bumped into her.

Isn't her claim to fame making "orgasm face" when eating things on the TV screen?

Yup.
I thought so.

66 WrathofG-d  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:09:55pm

re: #58 stevieray

To the Left....everything is politics!

67 Idle Drifter  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:11:07pm

re: #41 psyop

Post-modernism will be the death of us all.

68 Grammy Cracker  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:11:15pm

re: #55 FightingBack

Rachael's Fashion Sense.

(Note the stockings, please.)

Eeeewww! That's wrong on SO many levels! But, she still could have relied on a stylist to pick that crap out. Scary....

69 Cognito  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:11:53pm

re: #61 unrealizedviewpoint

How dense are you? I'm referring to the comment, not the commenter.

As I said. It's easier to be a picador than to make your own statements.

If you need to imagine that I might have said something, rather than citing it outright, then feel free. Because I think you're making it up as you go.

Moving on.

70 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:12:37pm

Ya know Gog, I find most of your positions sound. Unfortunately, all too often, you go off the rails (I think as devils advocate), and you take a position, stick with it, just to see how far you can take it.

71 Gang of One  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:12:49pm

re: #55 FightingBack

I like her stockings, but that's just my oddity, neh?

72 Bacchus's daddy  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:12:53pm

Depressing comments on this one. If Ms. Ray dressed up as a nun and filmed the commercial outside a church, and militant atheists boycotted DD, I wonder how many of these people would see this as a "non-story".

/ I know the analogy is imperfect, but still

73 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:13:12pm

re: #55 FightingBack

Rachael's Fashion Sense.

(Note the stockings, please.)

Good gawd. BTW, who is Rachael Ray? I'd never even heard her name until I read about the current controversy.

74 Cognito  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:13:27pm

re: #70 unrealizedviewpoint
Okay.

Back to the topic at hand.

75 average_guy  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:13:53pm

re: #55 FightingBack

Rachael's Fashion Sense.

(Note the stockings, please.)

This confirms my #2 (ducks and smiles)...

Don't ban me bro!

76 hrhamilton  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:14:35pm

#60 gang of One

Actually your point there is exactly how I feel about it. The way you get ahead is by convincing people that you are right. We all need to be educators about the greatness of the USA, the justness of our cause, the great values that Western Civilization shares with us. This is where we need to be fighting. I'm a fighter not a lover, and we need to fight for our great country.

77 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:14:43pm

re: #69 Cognito

As I said. It's easier to be a picador than to make your own statements.

If you need to imagine that I might have said something, rather than citing it outright, then feel free. Because I think you're making it up as you go.

Moving on.

Bull-sh**
I commented that I thought the comments below the LEDE article sounded just like your comments. And they do.

78 Grammy Cracker  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:15:39pm

re: #71 Gang of One

I like her stockings, but that's just my oddity, neh?

NEVER, Never, never....wear stockings with open-toed shoes! Ugh! And if you must break this rule, wear a stocking that matches the color of your legs!

Short girls with ample hips should NEVER wear that type of print, either! It makes her look much larger than she is. What girl wants THAT?

79 Gang of One  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:15:44pm

re: #76 hrhamilton

I agree.

80 Sharmuta  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:15:55pm

re: #73 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Se has a cooking show on the Food Network.

81 Nevergiveup  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:16:22pm

re: #76 hrhamilton

I'm with YOU.

83 Cognito  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:17:20pm

re: #77 unrealizedviewpoint

Bull-sh**
I commented that I thought the comments below the LEDE article sounded just like your comments. And they do.

Right.

Back to the topic.

84 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:17:34pm

re: #80 Sharmuta

Se has a cooking show on the Food Network.

I just browse fooddownunder until I find one of the 200K plus that tantalizes me...

85 Grammy Cracker  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:19:04pm

re: #80 Sharmuta

Se has a cooking show on the Food Network.

She has three (used to be four!) shows on the Food Network. Oprah Winfrey liked her so much, she gave her a talk show, too. She shills for crackers, olive oil (EVOO....Phuleeze!), donuts, and anything else that will bring in a buck.

She's Beatrice!

/old ad campaign....anyone else remember?

86 hrhamilton  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:19:56pm

#79 gang of one

Does that mean we are a gang of two now?

Or three with #81 nevergiveup?

87 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:20:00pm
88 jaunte  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:20:31pm

The other side of the debate appears to think that wearing the keffiyeh as a fashion is wrong because it isn't political enough.
Design students talking about Keffiyehs: is wearing them insulting and irreverent because the wearers don't understand them as a show of Arab solidarity?

"I have taken to asking people wearing the keffiyeh whether or not they support Palestinian independence. The look of confusion in 90% of peoples' faces is priceless. It has come to be one of my favorite pastimes when I go out in Manhattan!

I have my keffiyeh, brought back from Germany, which I have had since the 1980's, proudly wore through the first intifada, and now must leave in my closet because apolitical rich white hipster f*ks have appropriated a charged symbol of political struggle. I have to satisfy myself with my "Free Palestine Now" button." --Jacqueline Schoeffel


[Link: mfad.typepad.com...]

89 Sharmuta  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:20:39pm

re: #85 Grammy Cracker

Then she's living the American dream. Just hope she ditches the terror sympathizing accessories.

90 Gang of One  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:20:41pm

re: #78 Grammy Cracker

OK, not being a female, I don't know all the rules about hose and shoes, but I thought there is a type of hose, 'sandal foot' or something, for that choice. If anything, it looks like they are not a sheer weight hose, or maybe the angle of the light makes them look like high-compression, varicose-vein stockings. I guess it's a girl fashion thing?

91 tripletdad  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:20:51pm

None of the stories about this show Arafish or other notable "freedom fighters" of that region wearing their "scarves". Why is that? They don't want us all to come to the same conclusion?

92 WrathofG-d  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:21:01pm

Kiffeyeh shoes too?
(what do arafat, sting, and colin farrel have in common?)

93 MellyMel  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:21:27pm

re: #62 Nevergiveup

The Kiffiyeh being used is the problem....not the person that wore it.
Unless the person wearing it is doing it to make a political point. I don't think Rachael Ray was doing that. On the other hand being uneducated and uninformed is not way to go through life!

I agree. However, do we -- or better yet -- should we, give a pass to every idiotic celebrity who espouses ridiculous ideals just because they should know better? Unfortunately, they are what the world sees of America.

94 Bacchus's daddy  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:21:48pm

Better hypothetical than my previous ham-handed analogy:

If Rachael Ray had worn an IDF t-shirt, and DD was not only boycotted (by CAIR), but threatened with violence (by CAIR-funded groups), would these NYT bloggers be calling the Islamists "loony", "unreasonable", etc. - or would they be calling DD "insensitive".

95 Grammy Cracker  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:21:56pm

re: #82 WrathofG-d

who on the other thread said that Swastikas would never become fashionable in our lifetime?

Dear Lord! That get-up is fugly enough without the nasty nazi symbol! What is WRONG with these people?

96 hrhamilton  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:22:00pm

#87 bob

Here is where I get in trouble. I said she was cute as a bug in a rug.

97 Gang of One  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:22:32pm

re: #86 hrhamilton

#79 gang of one

Does that mean we are a gang of two now?

Or three with #81 nevergiveup?

We get one more, we can run the Peoples Republic of China!

/Mouse E. Dung

98 Sharmuta  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:22:36pm

re: #92 WrathofG-d

Kiffeyeh shoes too?
(what do arafat, sting, and colin farrel have in common?)

Not Sting. Nope- that one's red, so it just can't be!

/cognito

99 sngnsgt  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:22:38pm

re: #92 WrathofG-d

Kiffeyeh shoes too?
(what do arafat, sting, and colin farrel have in common?)

Drop shoes, not bombs!

100 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:23:59pm
101 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:24:25pm

Alright. I just got here.

I have a black and white plaid scarf that looks smashing with my Black Wool Overcoat and Fedora.

Am I not allowed to wear it? I have had it for years. The Arafish thing never occurred to me.

All of your black and white plaid are belong to us? I think not!

RIP Hedley Lamarr.

102 hrhamilton  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:24:36pm

#97

You made me laugh.

103 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:25:07pm

re: #100 buzzsawmonkey

Whatever happened to winslow the composer?

104 average_guy  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:25:40pm

re: #87 Bob in Breckenridge

Rachael Ray...OOPS!

At least I won't be the first one banned....

105 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:25:52pm

re: #88 jaunte

The other side of the debate appears to think that wearing the keffiyeh as a fashion is wrong because it isn't political enough.
Design students talking about Keffiyehs: is wearing them insulting and irreverent because the wearers don't understand them as a show of Arab solidarity?

[Link: mfad.typepad.com...]

What a charming dhimmi...

106 Cognito  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:25:56pm

re: #98 Sharmuta

Not Sting. Nope- that one's red, so it just can't be!

/cognito

From the link:


What has been worn by Arab men in the Middle East for centuries is now fashion industry’s accessory of the season. It’s not nomadic kitsch or a political statement but cutting-edge Middle Eastern grunge, equivalent to what the doc martens represented in the 70s.

The red one is a pan-Arab piece of gear. Not a Palestinian symbol. Sorry.

107 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:25:58pm

re: #28 Gang of One

Once upon a time, you could wear a kaffiyeh, and nobody made an issue of it. Until the LLL started assigning a political identity to it by referring to it as a 'freedom scarf', or some such idiocy, it was just another piece of cloth from the ME. Now it is worn precisely to show solidarity with the splodeys and their murderous ideology. You can thank the liberal left for turning everything into a political statement.

You hit the Nail squarely here Gang.

Soon as they titled it the Freedom Scarf they began displaying their solidarity, by way of fashion, with the terrorists, who want to kill us, and them too.

108 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:26:05pm

re: #104 average_guy

Banned for what?

109 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:26:23pm
110 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:26:30pm

re: #108 Bob in Breckenridge

(nippy slippy)

111 Grammy Cracker  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:26:41pm

re: #90 Gang of One

OK, not being a female, I don't know all the rules about hose and shoes, but I thought there is a type of hose, 'sandal foot' or something, for that choice. If anything, it looks like they are not a sheer weight hose, or maybe the angle of the light makes them look like high-compression, varicose-vein stockings. I guess it's a girl fashion thing?

Yeah. Stocking makers do market 'sandal foot' hose, and many women wear them. The key is to match your own skin tone, so it LOOKS LIKE you aren't wearing hose.

That picture does make her hose look more like tights (opaque rather than sheer). Actually, a nice pair of tights with a simple boot would have been much better with that dress, IMHO.

112 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:26:46pm

re: #109 buzzsawmonkey

T/Y.

113 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:26:58pm
114 average_guy  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:27:26pm

re: #108 Bob in Breckenridge

Banned for what?


I'm being flippant...upthread I made a couple of smart a** remarks and then said "don't ban me bro!"....

I guess if no one gets the joke its not a joke right?

115 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:28:26pm

re: #110 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh c'mon. Compared to some of the NSFW stuff that gets posted?

116 StinkHammer  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:28:37pm

re: #96 hrhamilton

#87 bob

Here is where I get in trouble. I said she was cute as a bug in a rug.

Here ya go.

/I accept checks and PayPal.

117 jaunte  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:29:11pm

re: #105 really grumpy big dog Johnson

I misattributed that quote above, it was actually a statement made by "dadanarchist."

118 IslandLibertarian  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:29:42pm

Looking up from my work, I ask "Who is Rachel Ray?.........Wait, don't tell me. I don't care."
NOkeffiyehs!
NObama!

119 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:29:45pm

re: #115 Bob in Breckenridge

Oh c'mon. Compared to some of the NSFW stuff that gets posted?

Not saying should be banned. You asked why he thought he might be, I answered why I think he thinks that he might be banned...huh?

120 Grammy Cracker  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:30:15pm

re: #116 StinkHammer

Here ya go.

/I accept checks and PayPal.

Eeeewww. My EYES! Could you please warn the female Lizards about such?

/lol, a little

121 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:30:54pm

re: #119 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Gotcha.

122 Nevergiveup  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:31:14pm

re: #116 StinkHammer

Here ya go.

/I accept checks and PayPal.

How shallow do you think I am? Do you think just because she is a piece, i am gonna give her a pass? Not me , No way. At least not until the cloths come off.

123 Grammy Cracker  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:31:18pm

Yikes! The puppy just, uh, returned her supper to the living room floor. BBIAB....

124 offendi  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:31:28pm

re: #80 Sharmuta

Se has a cooking show on the Food Network.

Those shows don't exactly require deep talent and there is always a fresher face du jour. Rachael's "arabic" stylin' controversy won't exactly help her with the kind of image that she needs for brand diversification to maintain her position in the dog-eat-dog world of "entertainment". If her career swoons enough, well, who knows, she may have to go show her "muffins" in Playboy.

125 DesertSage  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:31:34pm

re: #119 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Not saying should be banned. You asked why he thought he might be, I answered why I think he thinks that he might be banned...huh?

If anyone needs to be banned it should be me....DAMMIT!

126 StinkHammer  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:31:45pm

re: #120 Grammy Cracker

Eeeewww. My EYES! Could you please warn the female Lizards about such?

Apologies to the fairer . . . uh . . . Lizardettes.

127 average_guy  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:31:54pm

re: #115 Bob in Breckenridge

Oh c'mon. Compared to some of the NSFW stuff that gets posted?

K, Bob...here's a better joke then I gotta go and get something done...

A husband and wife were scheduled to attend a Halloween party. The wife got a terrible headache and told her husband to go to the Halloween party alone. He, being a devoted husband, protested, but she argued and said she was going to take some aspirin and go to bed and there was no need for his good time to be spoiled by her not going. So he took his costume and away he went.
The wife, after sleeping soundly for about an hour, woke without pain, and as it was still early, decided to go to the party. As her husband didn't know what her costume was, she thought she would have some fun by watching her husband to see how he acted when she was not with him. So she joined the party and soon spotted her husband in his costume, cavorting around on the dance floor, dancing with every nice "chick" he could and copping a little feel here and a little kiss there.
His wife went up to him and being a rather seductive babe herself, he left his new partner high and dry and devoted his time to her. She let him go as far as he wished, naturally, since he
was her husband. After more drinks he finally whispered a little proposition in her ear and she agreed, so off they went to one of the cars and had passionate intercourse in the back seat. Just before unmasking at midnight, she slipped away and went home and put the costume away and got into bed, wondering what kind of explanation he would make up for his outrageous behavior. She was sitting up reading when he came in, so she asked what kind of time he had.
"Oh, the same old thing. You know I never have a good time when you're not there." Then she asked, "Did you dance much?" He replied, I'll tell you; I never even danced one dance. When I got there, I met Pete, Bill Brown and some other guy, so we went into the spare room and played poker all evening. "You must have looked really silly wearing that costume playing poker all night!" she said with unashamed sarcasm. To which the husband replied, actually, I gave my costume to your brother, Apparently he had the time of his life".

129 Ciannaky  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:32:50pm

Surprised ya’ll aren’t getting your panties in a twist over the 2009 Mercedes GLK commercial in which one of their actresses is wearing the exact same scarf as Rachael Ray in the Dunkin Donuts commercial. OMG Mercedes supports the Pali Jihad! Seriously Charles, I have the utmost respect for you and Malkin but you both jumped the shark over this idiocy.

- Ciannaky


130 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:32:55pm

A month or so ago, Ashton Kutcher was hosting SNL and wore a scarf. Was accused of an Arafish scarf. It was nothing of the kind. I thought it was kind of cool (but I'm not an AT fan).

Don't get me wrong; the Arafish scarfs tick me off.

But, sometimes a scarf is just a scarf. IMHO.

131 moonstone  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:33:35pm

Am I the only one who would love to find out the name of Rachael's "stylist"? If this person wasn't making a political statement, she needs to find a new profession. Esthetically, the scarf actually detracted from the image (IMHO).

132 doriangrey  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:34:06pm

re: #6 Charles

Notice I spelled her name right. I owe her that much.

Charles, Charles, Charles.... It has absolutely nothing to do with Rachael Ray or her supposed rabid fans, and everything to do with "liberal/socialist imbeciles studying to be morons and falling miserably" finding a common cause to disgorge the bile of their innermost hearts upon the objects of their contempt.

You sir have dared to violate one of their sacred bovine articles of faith, and for that there is simply no desecration of your personage that is unacceptable or uncalled for.

Yea verily I say unto you, only hells very lake of fire holds more torment unto the individual that dares cast aside the curtain behind which Oscar Zoroaster Phadrig Isaac Norman Henkel Emmannuel Ambroise Diggs manipulates the fortunes beliefs and emotions of the Dorthy Gales of the world.

133 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:34:12pm

re: #127 average_guy

LOL!

134 Midwestprof  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:34:25pm

I never even heard of Rachael Ray until this controversy popped up a few days ago. Now I see her all over the place--on TV, on the cover of some Opra-like magazine. Ignorance was bliss. Can she cook?

135 StinkHammer  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:34:27pm

re: #124 offendi

If her career swoons enough, well, who knows, she may have to go show her "muffins" in Playboy.

Well, she hasn't been too far from it already. (See my #116.)

136 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:34:34pm

re: #111 Grammy Cracker

Yeah. Stocking makers do market 'sandal foot' hose, and many women wear them. The key is to match your own skin tone, so it LOOKS LIKE you aren't wearing hose.

That picture does make her hose look more like tights (opaque rather than sheer). Actually, a nice pair of tights with a simple boot would have been much better with that dress, IMHO.

A simple kombat boot, perhaps.

137 hermeneutics  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:34:39pm

Jeez ... I had never heard of her until a couple of days ago when this controversy began. I had to do a google search to confirm that I'd never seen her.

She's ordinary.

138 extrabob  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:34:48pm

#14 charles
"All publicity is good publicity, as long as they spell your name right."
-- often attributed to P. T. Barnum

I always thought that Humphrey Bogart coined that phrase.

139 ted  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:35:07pm

RR was well hated and ridiculed way before this:

[Link: community.livejournal.com...]

140 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:35:20pm

re: #113 buzzsawmonkey

Kuffars in keffiyehs
Casually claim
They aren't promoting terrorists
In high fashion's name.

Not a one of these kuffars, who wear this keffiyeh, know what a kuffar or keffiyeh be.

141 Intrepid  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:35:26pm

What concerns me more than keffiyeh-wearing celebs (the non-black/white ones, of course) is the statements made by our own Speaker of the House:

"Well, the purpose of the surge was to provide a secure space, a time for the political change to occur to accomplish the reconciliation. That didn’t happen. Whatever the military success, and progress that may have been made, the surge didn’t accomplish its goal. And some of the success of the surge is that the goodwill of the Iranians-they decided in Basra when the fighting would end, they negotiated that cessation of hostilities-the Iranians."

This is way more overtly supportive of terrorism than Rachael Ray's head scarf, and much more dangerous.

I reckon Ms Pelosi truly believes that the Iranians showed this "good will", yet they're the ones who shipped weapons and explosives to the insurgents. Pesky little details, Nancy.

142 Cognito  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:35:33pm

re: #128 Alouette

The red and white kaffiyeh is the Hashemite tribal colors.

Saudi royalty wear plain white.

Sometimes Saudis wear red, too; and sometimes Kuwaitis wear white. The red is a traditional bedouin thing, and they carried it across a number of Arab countries.

143 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:36:03pm

re: #134 Midwestprof

I never even heard of Rachael Ray until this controversy popped up a few days ago. Now I see her all over the place--on TV, on the cover of some Opra-like magazine. Ignorance was bliss. Can she cook?

/Dinner in the kitchen and dessert of the bedroom! : )

144 ted  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:36:11pm

re: #134 Midwestprof

I never even heard of Rachael Ray until this controversy popped up a few days ago. Now I see her all over the place--on TV, on the cover of some Opra-like magazine. Ignorance was bliss. Can she cook?

She can't.
And she is very annoying.

145 godfrey  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:36:11pm

re: #134 Midwestprof

She can "cook," but more importantly, young housewives, like, connect with her. You know?

146 mikeinmd  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:36:13pm

re: #134 Midwestprof

I never even heard of Rachael Ray until this controversy popped up a few days ago. Now I see her all over the place--on TV, on the cover of some Opra-like magazine. Ignorance was bliss. Can she cook?

My wife has one of her cookbooks. It keeps my TV stand quite level.

147 Charles  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:36:39pm

National Palestinian Radio mocks the kaffiyeh kontroversy: Dunkin' Donuts Scraps Ad over Scarf Criticism : NPR.

This issue must have gone out on one of the left wing action listservers.

148 StinkHammer  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:37:36pm

re: #139 ted

RR was well hated and ridiculed way before this:

[Link: community.livejournal.com...]

Hah! The first post title says it all: "Damn B*tch is Everywhere"!

149 seekeroftruth  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:37:44pm

Charles posted a thread about Netherland Merchant putting a kaffiyeh on Anne Frank back in Jan. The kaffiyeh was red & white:
[Link: www.littlegreenfootballs.com...]

150 doriangrey  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:38:39pm

re: #145 godfrey

She can "cook," but more importantly, young housewives, like, connect with her. You know?

More importantly.... She likes to tease with an almost flash of her boobies quite often..... Which of course trumps whether or not she can cook.....

151 seekeroftruth  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:39:18pm

re: #131 moonstone

I thought the same thing - the scarf overwhelming her dress and made the coffee cup - the thing they were selling - hard to see.

152 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:39:40pm

OMG! Speaking of celebs...Clay Aiken is going to be a father.

I didn't see that coming.

Harvey Korman died. I'm kinda bummed about that.

153 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:39:50pm

re: #134 Midwestprof

She does 2 shows on FoodTV- 30 minute meals and $40 a day, where she visits various cities and has $40 to buy breakfast, lunch, and dinner. She's cute, not pretty, and she is a lush, so I like that about her.

154 Nevergiveup  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:39:56pm

re: #150 doriangrey

More importantly.... She likes to tease with an almost flash of her boobies quite often..... Which of course trumps whether or not she can cook.....

But who is her audience? I don't watch her and I doubt my wife would care about a peek at her boobs?

155 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:39:56pm

re: #141 Intrepid

What concerns me more than keffiyeh-wearing celebs (the non-black/white ones, of course) is the statements made by our own Speaker of the House:

"Well, the purpose of the surge was to provide a secure space, a time for the political change to occur to accomplish the reconciliation. That didn’t happen. Whatever the military success, and progress that may have been made, the surge didn’t accomplish its goal. And some of the success of the surge is that the goodwill of the Iranians-they decided in Basra when the fighting would end, they negotiated that cessation of hostilities-the Iranians."

This is way more overtly supportive of terrorism than Rachael Ray's head scarf, and much more dangerous.

I reckon Ms Pelosi truly believes that the Iranians showed this "good will", yet they're the ones who shipped weapons and explosives to the insurgents. Pesky little details, Nancy.

She's gonna get an up close and personal look at the concept of cessation of hostilities in Denver.

She makes my stomach turn just looking at her.

156 WrathofG-d  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:40:03pm
157 gop_patriot  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:40:07pm

re: #129 Ciannaky

Are you comparing the :02 seconds of an unknown makeup artist at :15 in that clip, with an ad for a huge corporation featuring a wildly popular FoodTV and talk show host?

And yes, that is offensive also. It's the sneaking it in here and there that's the problem. Not as important as who's wearing it, is the fact that they're trying to slip it in to the mainstream, until it's true meaning is dulled.

158 offendi  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:40:17pm

I actually have a black and white one, but because of you people my hopes of a complimentary cup of Dunkin' Donuts has now been cruelly crushed.

Thanks a lot.

159 hrhamilton  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:40:35pm

Nancy Pelosi is out of her league. She has been such a tool of the Islamists. If she were to change places with the President of the US, every enemy we have would be all over us.

On the other hand, if she were to change places with Rachel Ray, I would never eat again.

160 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:41:05pm

re: #148 StinkHammer

Hah! The first post title says it all: "Damn B*tch is Everywhere"!

She's on 3 of my boxes of Wheat Thins. Well, her pic is, not her.

161 StinkHammer  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:41:14pm

re: #150 doriangrey

She likes to tease with an almost flash of her boobies quite often..... Which of course trumps whether or not she can cook.....

...And she's always got her damn yap going -- like a chipmonk on steroids. So that tends to cancel out the almost-boobage quite sufficiently also.

162 jaunte  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:41:26pm

re: #147 Charles

It looks like diverting attention away from the political symbolism
of the keffiyeh, to talk about donuts is the approved spin direction.
Donuts are funny.
Buses filled with civilians exploding, not so funny.

163 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:41:27pm

re: #156 WrathofG-d

The Mainstreaming of a Symbol of Murder.
(and before we get there; What Palestine Online Store has to say about the Kiffiyeh)

That about covers it!

164 Sharmuta  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:41:32pm

re: #156 WrathofG-d

From your first link:

In Palestine, the red colored kuffiyas normally represent the socialist factions, whereas in other Arab countries they have different symbolisms.

Huh.

165 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:41:35pm
166 doriangrey  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:41:58pm

re: #154 Nevergiveup

But who is her audience? I don't watch her and I doubt my wife would care about a peek at her boobs?

Cough...cough... Hmmm, cough... I'm sure...Cough...that I wouldnt...cough know..... Blushes..................................

167 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:42:07pm

re: #157 gop_patriot

Are you comparing the :02 seconds of an unknown makeup artist at :15 in that clip, with an ad for a huge corporation featuring a wildly popular FoodTV and talk show host?

And yes, that is offensive also. It's the sneaking it in here and there that's the problem. Not as important as who's wearing it, is the fact that they're trying to slip it in to the mainstream, until it's true meaning is dulled.

I think of it as "slipstreaming radicalism".

168 extrabob  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:42:51pm

#152 Fat Bastart Veggie
"OMG! Speaking of celebs...Clay Aiken is going to be a father."

I guess if Rosie O can be a mother, Clay Aiken can be a father.

169 offendi  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:42:59pm

re: #150 doriangrey

More importantly.... She likes to tease with an almost flash of her boobies quite often..... Which of course trumps whether or not she can cook.....

If one watches cooking shows on that premise, I would think Nigella Lawson is a bit "healthier". Just a casual observation, mind you.

170 doriangrey  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:42:59pm

re: #161 StinkHammer

...And she's always got her damn yap going -- like a chipmonk on steroids. So that tends to cancel out the almost-boobage quite sufficiently also.

Cough....remote control with mute button is your friend..... :)

171 Nevergiveup  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:43:27pm

re: #166 doriangrey

Cough...cough... Hmmm, cough... I'm sure...Cough...that I wouldnt...cough know..... Blushes................................. .

I never watched her because I never knew she existed; HOWEVER, I should watch to make sure she behaves herself I guess.

172 hermeneutics  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:43:28pm

re: #156 WrathofG-d

The first site -- the Palestinian online store -- excellently proves Charles' point that the silly scarf symbolizes Palestinian resistance terrorism.

173 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:43:35pm

BTW, if you haven't seen Sandra Lee on FoodTV, check her out. Her show is "Semi Homemade" She's also a lush, and she is smokin' hot for a babe in her 40's!

174 Nevergiveup  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:44:13pm

re: #168 extrabob

#152 Fat Bastart Veggie
"OMG! Speaking of celebs...Clay Aiken is going to be a father."

I guess if Rosie O can be a mother, Clay Aiken can be a father.

Well as I understand it is a turkey baster insemination.

175 VegasRick  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:44:28pm

re: #165 buzzsawmonkey

Must...refrain...from...obvious...raunch y...humor.

Wow! That gay marriage thing really is working out!
/

176 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:44:40pm

re: #165 buzzsawmonkey

Must...refrain...from...obvious...raunch y...humor.

Who's the father?

177 Ciannaky  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:44:55pm

re: #157 gop_patriot

No I'm comparing two paisley scarfs that are popular in every major city and are not kaffiyehs and pointing to the idiocy of this controversy. Face it conservatives are starting to mimic the level of hysteria usually shown by our friends on the left over an innocuous fashion choice.

178 WrathofG-d  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:44:55pm

re: #172 hermeneutics

Everyone but the usefull idiots knows this.

Its like what happens when you actually ask an Arab in private what he means by "end the occupation"

179 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:44:59pm

re: #156 WrathofG-d

The Mainstreaming of a Symbol of Murder.
(and before we get there; What Palestine Online Store has to say about the Kiffiyeh)

This really does answer all the question with regard for the left. Here is a seller of keffiyahs explaining it quite clearly.

180 doriangrey  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:45:01pm

re: #169 offendi

If one watches cooking shows on that premise, I would think Nigella Lawson is a bit "healthier". Just a casual observation, mind you.

Not that I am admitting anything, er like already knowing how to cook or anything... But...................................I have watched a couple of.... gak chortle cough Uggggggggggg...........

181 WrathofG-d  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:45:35pm

re: #179 unrealizedviewpoint

see 178.

182 ted  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:45:37pm

In fact, when the story broke, LGF was linked:

[Link: community.livejournal.com...]

183 RememberSekhmet?  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:46:11pm

Hey, I was among the first to notice and post the screencap!

184 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:46:12pm

re: #150 doriangrey

More importantly.... She likes to tease with an almost flash of her boobies quite often..... Which of course trumps whether or not she can cook.....

see my #87, dude...

185 pegcity  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:46:35pm

this is everywhere, who woulda thunk this little blog could create such a stir

186 doriangrey  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:46:56pm

re: #165 buzzsawmonkey

Must...refrain...from...obvious...raunch y...humor.

Hmmm, since were talking about food here... well sort of...shouldn't that be ranch dressing humor?

187 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:47:29pm

re: #177 Ciannaky

No I'm comparing two paisley scarfs that are popular in every major city and are not kaffiyehs and pointing to the idiocy of this controversy. Face it conservatives are starting to mimic the level of hysteria usually shown by our friends on the left over an innocuous fashion choice.

Since you obviously don't have a clue, I guess I don't need to respond to you any more. So be it, three comment poster.

188 Sharmuta  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:47:39pm

re: #147 Charles

Nice touch with the rainbow sprinkle gay joke. Of course- if a conservative had made that "joke", there would be a whole new donut controversy in the works.

189 jaunte  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:48:11pm

re: #177 Ciannaky

How do you know it's a "paisley" scarf?

190 doriangrey  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:48:19pm

re: #184 Bob in Breckenridge

see my #87, dude...

Ahem.... as I was saying... it aint her cooking that gets her watched........

191 VegasRick  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:49:13pm

re: #177 Ciannaky

No I'm comparing two paisley scarfs that are popular in every major city and are not kaffiyehs and pointing to the idiocy of this controversy. Face it conservatives are starting to mimic the level of hysteria usually shown by our friends on the left over an innocuous fashion choice.

I disagree. They know what they are doing. It is cool to them.

192 pingjockey  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:49:27pm

If I watch a cooking show it's Emeril. Rachel Ray, Martha et al annoy me to no end.

193 hermeneutics  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:49:45pm

re: #178 WrathofG-d

Wrath, I have to admit I didn't know that scarf symbolized Palestianian terrorism until I started to connect the dots -- the last two threads helped.

My hunch is that many kids -- and adults -- simply jump on the fashion bandwagon without knowing the meaning behind some of the accessories. Think of all the kids who wear "urban" clothes which symbolize gangs, drugs and more.

194 doriangrey  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:49:59pm

re: #187 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Since you obviously don't have a clue, I guess I don't need to respond to you any more. So be it, three comment poster.

Yum yum, a tasty serving of Gamey troll buttocks..................

195 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:50:16pm

re: #192 pingjockey

If I watch a cooking show it's Emeril. Rachel Ray, Martha et al annoy me to no end.

Sandra Lee, ping, Sandra Lee! WOW!

196 IslandLibertarian  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:50:51pm

re: #177 Ciannaky

No I'm comparing two paisley scarfs that are popular in every major city and are not kaffiyehs and pointing to the idiocy of this controversy. Face it conservatives are starting to mimic the level of hysteria usually shown by our friends on the left over an innocuous fashion choice.

Hey, yeah, there's a real cool good luck symbol I could incorporate into "Hip-Fashion". It's called a Swastika.
mmmm...maybe not.....

197 pingjockey  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:51:24pm

re: #177 Ciannaky
That scarf ain't paisley. Some dumbass marketing fool thought it could pull a fast one. That damn scarf represents one thing now, just like the swastika. It may have been benign at one time, no more.

198 doriangrey  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:51:53pm

re: #195 Bob in Breckenridge

Sandra Lee, ping, Sandra Lee! WOW!

Cough...blush...cough... never heard of her or...cough...her...cough...cooking show........... ;0

199 offendi  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:51:55pm

re: #180 doriangrey

Not that I am admitting anything, er like already knowing how to cook or anything... But...................................I have watched a couple of.... gak chortle cough Uggggggggggg...........

You are absolved. Didn't Jimmy Carter say it was o.k. to "lust in your heart" ... just for the food on TV here, of course.

200 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:52:07pm

re: #193 hermeneutics

Wrath, I have to admit I didn't know that scarf symbolized Palestianian terrorism until I started to connect the dots -- the last two threads helped.

My hunch is that many kids -- and adults -- simply jump on the fashion bandwagon without knowing the meaning behind some of the accessories. Think of all the kids who wear "urban" clothes which symbolize gangs, drugs and more.

There's really not an excuse for being ignorant about global subjigation movements, or not knowing the code of fashion of the extreme left.

201 solergic  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:52:18pm

I agree with people about the Swastika and the Kaffiyeh. Both had harmless meanings and now symbolize something quite different. So, would people be the same thing is Ray wore a swastika?

202 pingjockey  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:52:42pm

re: #195 Bob in Breckenridge

Don't know that one. Don't watch a lot of tv any more, 12 hour days will do that to you. Hell I'm 3 weeks behind on BSG!

203 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:53:03pm
204 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:53:24pm

"subjugation".

PYTBMF

205 doriangrey  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:53:37pm

re: #199 offendi

You are absolved. Didn't Jimmy Carter say it was o.k. to "lust in your heart" ... just for the food on TV here, of course.

Hey.............................I'm single damned it, never married.................That aint lust...................It's ummmmm, comparison shopping damn it........

206 extrabob  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:53:45pm

#192 pingjockey
"If I watch a cooking show it's Emeril. Rachel Ray, Martha et al annoy me to no end."

Oh, come on. Emeril is even more annoying than Rachael Ray. But I would like him to cook for me.

207 Alouette  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:53:59pm

re: #142 Cognito

Sometimes Saudis wear red, too; and sometimes Kuwaitis wear white. The red is a traditional bedouin thing, and they carried it across a number of Arab countries.

Red and white, black and white, and plain white are the traditional tribal colors. The black tube around the head also has various tribal symbolism.

It's an Arab thing, non-Arabs do not traditionally wear them.

208 DesertSage  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:54:26pm

Harvey Korman dies 4 months after aneurysm

That's Hedly....Hedly Lammar!

209 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:54:28pm

re: #204 really grumpy big dog Johnson

"subjugation".

PYTBMF

I'm gonna have to quit posting if I can't do better...

PUTBMY (preview used to be my friend)

210 pingjockey  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:54:36pm

re: #205 doriangrey
Hehehe! Have to squeeze the melons to find a ripe one.

211 Nevergiveup  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:54:45pm

re: #199 offendi

You are absolved. Didn't Jimmy Carter say it was o.k. to "lust in your heart" ... just for the food on TV here, of course.

Well I know what I lust for and I can guess what you might lust for, but for th e life of me I can't fathom what Jimmah might lust for?

212 offendi  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:55:00pm

re: #168 extrabob

#152 Fat Bastart Veggie
"OMG! Speaking of celebs...Clay Aiken is going to be a father."

I guess if Rosie O can be a mother, Clay Aiken can be a father.

My favorite episode of South Park was the "Tom Cruise in the Closet" one.

213 Killian Bundy  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:55:01pm

re: #159 hrhamilton

Nancy Pelosi is out of her league. She has been such a tool of the Islamists. If she were to change places with the President of the US, every enemy we have would be all over us.

On the other hand, if she were to change places with Rachel Ray, I would never eat again.

Oops, she did it agan:

Pelosi Credits Iran’s “Goodwill” for Surge Success

In an interview yesterday with the San Francisco Chronicle, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi claimed the U.S. troop surge failed to accomplish its goal. She then partially credited the success of the troop surge to “the goodwill of the Iranians,” claiming that they were responsible for ending violence in the southern city of Basra.

Asked if she saw any evidence of the surge’s positive impact on her May 17 trip to Iraq she responded:

Well, the purpose of the surge was to provide a secure space, a time for the political change to occur to accomplish the reconciliation. That didn’t happen. Whatever the military success, and progress that may have been made, the surge didn’t accomplish its goal. And some of the success of the surge is that the goodwill of the Iranians-they decided in Basra when the fighting would end, they negotiated that cessation of hostilities-the Iranians.

/this is what we get for staying home in 2006

214 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:55:21pm

This Ciannaky may not be the troll were lookin' for. Here's his/her youtube page:
[Link: www.youtube.com...]
with a few Islam vids saved, but rates them very low.
Not a fan of Islam it appears.

215 Grammy Cracker  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:55:30pm

re: #173 Bob in Breckenridge

BTW, if you haven't seen Sandra Lee on FoodTV, check her out. Her show is "Semi Homemade" She's also a lush, and she is smokin' hot for a babe in her 40's!

That would be the only reason to watch her show! She IS very pretty. That's undeniable. But the garbage she calls food scares the crap outta me!

/Cool Whip, repeat after me, IS NOT A FOOD! It is a chemical cocktail / experiment gone horribly awry!

216 pingjockey  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:55:35pm

re: #206 extrabob
First time I watched Emeril he was making tailgate goodies and I watch him if I surf by and see him on.

217 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:55:35pm

re: #203 savage_nation

SAVAGE!

218 Bacchus's daddy  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:55:49pm

Let's just imagine that IDF T-shirts were the burgeoning fashion choice rather than the keffiya, the boycotts, seething, and yes, probably violence, would make this so-called keffiya "hysteria", seem, well, somehow not exactly hysteria...

219 The Other Les  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:56:14pm

re: #14 Charles

"All publicity is good publicity, as long as they spell your name right."

-- often attributed to P. T. Barnum

And we all know what else Mr. Barnum said. He just underestimated the quantity.

220 ted  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:56:23pm

Rays hubby has a questionable past:

John Cusimano likes the spit
November 16th, 2006


The Food Network’s Rachael Ray’s husband John Cusimano loves to be spit on and have dirty feet rubbed all over him. These are the claims Jeannine Walz makes in The National Enquirer. According to Jeannine, she and John carried on a five year affair where she was paid $500 a session to spit on him.

“We’d often have sessions at least twice a month ... I virtually supported myself by spitting on him. But there was never any normal sex involved. He once offered to pay me $1,200 to perform a kinky sex act with him, but I refused.”

Reps for Rachael and John have laughed off the story. John should have just bought himself a llama. It might have been cheaper and made for a better story. He might have to watch out for Rachael though. I don’t think she’s ever eaten a llama. Monkey brains, snakes and penis maybe, but llama? No.

[Link: theblemish.com...]

221 mikeinmd  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:56:30pm

I wonder how many of these people bitching with the "it's only a scarf" line would actually point out a country on a blank map if you asked them to show you where Palestine is.

222 offendi  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:56:30pm

re: #211 Nevergiveup

Well I know what I lust for and I can guess what you might lust for, but for th e life of me I can't fathom what Jimmah might lust for?

To be President of Palestine of course.

223 Syrah  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:56:41pm

re: #201 solergic

I agree with people about the Swastika and the Kaffiyeh. Both had harmless meanings and now symbolize something quite different. So, would people be the same thing is Ray wore a swastika?

Hell, we are about as tolerant of the Odin's Cross as we are of the Kaffiyeh.

224 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:57:20pm
225 The Other Les  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:57:44pm

re: #218 Bacchus's daddy

Let's just imagine that IDF T-shirts were the burgeoning fashion choice rather than the keffiya, the boycotts, seething, and yes, probably violence, would make this so-called keffiya "hysteria", seem, well, somehow not exactly hysteria...

Are you suggesting that If I wore an IDF tee-shirt on a collage campus I should expect an adverse reaction?

226 jaunte  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:58:35pm

re: #177 Ciannaky

No I'm comparing two paisley scarfs that are popular in every major city and are not kaffiyehs and pointing to the idiocy of this controversy. Face it conservatives are starting to mimic the level of hysteria usually shown by our friends on the left over an innocuous fashion choice.

Are you still here? Have you found a picture of the "paisley scarf" yet?
The kaffiyeh in question may be an ignorant fashion choice, but it's not innocuous.

227 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:58:46pm

re: #224 savage_nation

Nutin' really just...

Clinton backers to protest outside rules meeting

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]


Where you at on this beautiful evening?

228 pingjockey  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:59:22pm

re: #225 The Other Les
More than likely. The IDF and the US military are the font of all the problems in the world. Being orchestrated by George Bush and the Joooz.

229 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:59:43pm
230 Bacchus's daddy  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:59:49pm

re: #225 The Other Les

Are you suggesting that If I wore an IDF tee-shirt on a collage campus I should expect an adverse reaction?


I wouldn't try it at UC-Irvine (which is not to suggest that it would make you popular at many other campuses).

231 Ciannaky  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:59:50pm

re: #189 jaunte

re: #214 unrealizedviewpoint
re: #214 unrealizedviewpoint

I'm with ya'll on most things just don't agree with this one, I'm a diehard Zionist and not a fan of RR and yeah I'm new to LGF; sorry I don't tow the party line on stupid fashion goofs.

232 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, May 29, 2008 6:59:57pm

re: #220 ted

Why did you make me read that?

233 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:00:18pm

The Spurs are playin' angry tonight. Bout time.

234 Nevergiveup  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:00:19pm

re: #221 mikeinmd

I wonder how many of these people bitching with the "it's only a scarf" line would actually point out a country on a blank map if you asked them to show you where Palestine is.

Well they might. If you remember that dirt road goat fucker Arafat always folded his in such a way that it appeared to outline the Palestine of his dreams--meaning without a State of Israel.

235 gop_patriot  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:00:22pm

re: #177 Ciannaky

No I'm comparing two paisley scarfs that are popular in every major city and are not kaffiyehs and pointing to the idiocy of this controversy. Face it conservatives are starting to mimic the level of hysteria usually shown by our friends on the left over an innocuous fashion choice.

"popular in every major city". Hmm. Well, I think if you check to see with whom it is popular, you'll see that it's not hysteria.

And there is NOTHING innocuous about it, it is absolutely intentional. Very few people wearing this are ignorant of the history of this "fashion choice". Wearing a "paisley" black and white scarf with fringe that looks from more than 10" away exactly like a Kaffiyeh is not an accident.

236 Grammy Cracker  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:00:33pm

Okay, all you rank amateurs!

This woman is drop-dead beautiful AND she can REALLY cook! Her name is Giada DeLaurentis (granddaughter of film director Dino), and she has two shows on the Food Network.

Oh, yeah....she does a little cheesecake, too!

237 sngnsgt  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:00:56pm
Who knew there were so many rabid Rachael Ray fans out there?

Yummo!

238 IslandLibertarian  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:01:11pm

re: #225 The Other Les

Are you suggesting that If I wore an IDF tee-shirt on a collage campus I should expect an adverse reaction?

Packing tonight for a trip to Indonesia.
I won't be taking my IDF tee-shirt.

239 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:01:22pm

re: #229 savage_nation

Good. You need to be home now and then.

Good. Rain is important to the little plants n things.

Good. We've been talkin' about kitchens for a while.

240 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:01:25pm

re: #231 Ciannaky

re: #214 unrealizedviewpoint
re: #214 unrealizedviewpoint

I'm with ya'll on most things just don't agree with this one, I'm a diehard Zionist and not a fan of RR and yeah I'm new to LGF; sorry I don't tow the party line on stupid fashion goofs.

Welcome, spend some time, and see.

241 pat  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:01:28pm

Like many of the cooking channel's chefs , she has a compelling story. Cook show on local PBS station. Paid for by herself. No training but a love for cooking. 2 years of perseverance, then a small break to a sponsored show. More years. Then trials and interviews for the Food Channel. She is doing an Ad folks. She is being dressed by a Madison Avenue firm. She likely has no idea of the symbolism and is likely disturbed by it.

242 onslow  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:01:29pm
243 jaunte  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:01:32pm

re: #231 Ciannaky

It's analogous to the Che t-shirt. Are you indifferent to those?

244 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:02:05pm

re: #225 The Other Les

Are you suggesting that If I wore an IDF tee-shirt on a collage campus I should expect an adverse reaction?

Well, you'd certainly find out firsthand how liberals view freedom of expression as a basic and undeniable right.

/wrong

245 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:02:08pm

re: #236 Grammy Cracker

Hubba.

246 DesertSage  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:02:11pm

re: #233 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The Spurs are playin' angry tonight. Bout time.

The Spurs are going to lose. Sorry, but that's the way it is.

247 snowcrash  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:02:49pm

I like Rachael Ray. She is cute, perky (ugh) and a self made millionaire.
Her food does nothing for me, I much prefer Giada's Everyday Italian.
Sandra Lees food is gross cool whip covered crap I wouldn't serve my friends.

248 offendi  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:02:52pm

re: #205 doriangrey

Hey.............................I'm single damned it, never married.................That aint lust...................It's ummmmm, comparison shopping damn it........

LOL

I have heard the saying that the way to a man's heart is through his stomach. Will leave it to others to make crass commentary accordingly.

249 CapeCoddah  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:02:53pm

Good evenng everyone!

250 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:02:54pm
251 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:03:11pm
252 Intrepid  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:03:43pm

re: #226 jaunte

Are you still here? Have you found a picture of the "paisley scarf" yet?
The kaffiyeh in question may be an ignorant fashion choice, but it's not innocuous.

Actually I downloaded the RR donut add pic, and (after preparing myself) downloaded a pic of Arafat's keffiyeh. Tried to enlarge them.

They're not the same. RR's scarf/keffiyeh? has patterns on them (can't tell if they're paisley, but one side of the pattern is rounded, with other little rounded doodads) and plenty of white space. Arafat's is all little checks and lines. And the border fringes/tassel thingies are different.

253 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:03:55pm

re: #221 mikeinmd

I wonder how many of these people bitching with the "it's only a scarf" line would actually point out a country on a blank map if you asked them to show you where Palestine is.

The result would be similar to the FedEx commercial where the guy couldn't find China.

254 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:04:08pm

re: #246 DesertSage

I'm sure you are right. They're not gonna take three in a row.

I have come to a difficult realization lately. Kobe Bryant is every bit as good as Michael Jordon. It hurts to say it (long time Celtics fan) but, IMHO, it's true.

255 allbusiness  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:04:11pm

more like, the kaffiyeh's texture looks like like an old, groady oven mitt. maybe we've all confused the two...?

256 Cap'n DOC  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:04:11pm

re: #9 unrealizedviewpoint

There's a couple that have Cognito's metre.

257 CapeCoddah  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:04:16pm

Hows it goin, Savage?

258 RememberSekhmet?  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:04:22pm

Totally off-topic:

I'll be glad when my paycheck hits and I can pick up more Imitrex.

If you can get through 30 minutes of pure Hell after taking it, the migraine goes away. It's pretty nice.

259 pingjockey  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:04:32pm

re: #241 pat
We aren't blaming her, at least I'm not. Some Madison Avenue jackass thought it would be hip and kewl. Good God, can't anybody from Madison Avenue to the WH do any background checks on anything.

260 ted  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:04:33pm

re: #232 unrealizedviewpoint

Why did you make me read that?

Sorry :

261 offendi  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:05:22pm

re: #220 ted

Wasn't Dick Morris also a "foot" man?

262 Grammy Cracker  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:05:29pm

re: #245 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hubba.

She's the ONLY person who can get Grandpa Cracker to watch the Food Network....LOL

/she's also a new mommy!

263 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:05:36pm
264 mikeinmd  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:05:42pm

re: #234 Nevergiveup

Well they might. If you remember that dirt road goat fucker Arafat always folded his in such a way that it appeared to outline the Palestine of his dreams--meaning without a State of Israel.

I will refrain from any jokes about bent over pages....

NOT.

265 Bacchus's daddy  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:06:26pm

OT (somewhat)- I reconnected with some old high school friends through Facebook recently- yes, I know I'm too old for that shit but I got roped in. To my dismay, I found that all my friends who were totally apolitical 20 years ago, are now lefties ("liberal" or "very liberal")- I'm still a moderate conservative and I have friends who were liberal back then who now vote Republican. But everyone who didn't have a clue or a care back then is a moonbat. I guess if you are too politically obtuse to have a notion or a care about politics until you get to college, you are easy pickins for our lefty campuses.

266 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:06:36pm

re: #262 Grammy Cracker

Yeah. But you still a CRACKA!

267 jaunte  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:06:52pm

re: #252 Intrepid

I wouldn't think that RR's is the same pattern as Arafat's, but the phrase "paisley scarf" appeared to be planted in the media by Dunkin' Donuts.
I don't know if anyone has actually asked the stylist, or seen a high-res image of the scarf. Not that it would change anyone's mind.

268 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:06:59pm
269 DesertSage  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:07:00pm

re: #254 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I hope the Lakers play the Celtics in the Finals, that would be a great series.
The Celtics are my second favorite team.....hey, I live in LA. I'm honor bound to be a Lakers fan :')

270 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:07:07pm
271 CapeCoddah  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:07:15pm

Home is a nice place to be.. Just got here myself, been busy during and after Memorial day. Been on the road all week.

272 offendi  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:07:27pm

re: #236 Grammy Cracker

Okay, all you rank amateurs!

This woman is drop-dead beautiful AND she can REALLY cook! Her name is Giada DeLaurentis (granddaughter of film director Dino), and she has two shows on the Food Network.

Oh, yeah....she does a little cheesecake, too!

Yes, she is very visually interesting. I mean her food preparation of course.

273 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:07:58pm

re: #261 offendi

Wasn't Dick Morris also a "foot" man?

Out of the gutter.. geez!

274 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:08:00pm
275 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:08:02pm

re: #269 DesertSage

Yep Lakers/Celtics NBA Finals.

That's old school. Sigh.

276 Grammy Cracker  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:08:40pm

re: #266 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yeah. But you still a CRACKA!

Wanna make something of it, Veggie Boy?

/LOL

277 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:09:25pm
278 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:09:46pm

Good evening, Lizards.

279 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:10:00pm
280 Nevergiveup  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:10:01pm

re: #275 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yep Lakers/Celtics NBA Finals.

That's old school. Sigh.

Oh were have you gone Willis Reed, A depressed Knick fan turns his losing eyes to you!

281 pingjockey  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:10:15pm

re: #268 ploome hineni
That is goddamn ridiculous.

282 DesertSage  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:10:19pm

re: #276 Grammy Cracker

Hi Cracker, how are you this evening?

283 Killgore Trout  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:10:26pm
284 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:10:35pm

re: #278 goddessoftheclassroom

Goddess. (reverent music plays, he bows and backs away)

285 CatsPaw  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:10:45pm

re: #31 Charles

Rachael Ray is one of O'Reilly's "pinheads" tonight.

I'm probably way behind on this one, but your statement is not quite complete. He named Rachael Ray and Dunkin Donuts for pulling the ad and told the viewers to decide who was the pinhead. He did not explain the controversy so that people would understand what it was about. It looked to me like he was calling the whole kerfuffle (i.e., us'ns) a pinhead.

286 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:11:28pm

re: #278 goddessoftheclassroom

Good evening, Lizards.

Good evening Ms. Goddess!

287 ec marm  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:11:29pm

re: #236 Grammy Cracker
You just beat (Freudian slip?) me to it. I find myself watching that show for some stupid reason. Even while she sounds like she is forcing the Italian pronunciation of words. A babe, for sure.

288 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:11:45pm
289 offendi  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:12:05pm

re: #270 buzzsawmonkey

Okay, so do you think Obama will officiate the marriage of Ellen and Portia if he becomes President? (Assuming Michelle lets him have some powers)? See, no feet or butts involved.

290 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:12:21pm
291 Ciannaky  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:12:23pm

re: #243 jaunte

It's analogous to the Che t-shirt. Are you indifferent to those?

Not a fan, usually laugh at fools wearing them who don't know what a douche he was, especially in the People's Republic of Cambridge. So jaunte, British and US troops wear the damn things, are you going to show the same indignation to them as you would a filthy hippy in a che T or a clueless cooking tart? Didn't think so.

292 Grammy Cracker  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:12:51pm

re: #275 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yep Lakers/Celtics NBA Finals.

That's old school. Sigh.

Naw....this is old school.

293 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:13:28pm

re: #268 ploome hineni

animals

A decadence doll. Just a fashion statement, of course...

/uglee

294 DesertSage  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:13:38pm

re: #292 Grammy Cracker

Naw....this is old school.

Uhhhh.....you must not be very old then, Cracker.

295 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:13:51pm
296 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:14:02pm

ABC News just reported that Clay Aiken's baby was conceived via artificial insemination. The Mom is 50!

297 offendi  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:14:04pm

re: #273 unrealizedviewpoint

feet don't fail me now!

298 CatsPaw  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:14:13pm

Now Greta is picking up the Rachael Ray story "why she is being linked to terrorism"...

299 Intrepid  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:14:17pm

re: #267 jaunte

I wouldn't think that RR's is the same pattern as Arafat's, but the phrase "paisley scarf" appeared to be planted in the media by Dunkin' Donuts.
I don't know if anyone has actually asked the stylist, or seen a high-res image of the scarf. Not that it would change anyone's mind.

I'd like to see for myself, actually. This is a very emotionally charged issue for many folks. Just trying to make my way through it.

300 Grammy Cracker  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:14:35pm

re: #282 DesertSage

Hi Cracker, how are you this evening?

SAGE! I'm good tonight. The puppy has stopped barfing for now, so it's all good..... ;-)

301 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:14:40pm

re: #294 DesertSage

Uhhhh.....you must not be very old then, Cracker.

Ya think?! RIP Dennis Johnson.

302 Neo Con since 9-11  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:15:18pm

re: #285 CatsPaw

Do I detect an odor or is this just coincidence?

303 DesertSage  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:15:34pm

re: #292 Grammy Cracker

This is old school, Grammy.

304 pingjockey  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:15:46pm

re: #294 DesertSage
That ain't old. Jerry West, Wilt, Gail Goodrich, Red Aurebach and co. that's old school.

305 offendi  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:15:51pm

re: #296 Bob in Breckenridge

ABC News just reported that Clay Aiken's baby was conceived via artificial insemination. The Mom is 50!

Michael Jackson finally has some real competition!

306 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:15:51pm

re: #285 CatsPaw

I'm probably way behind on this one, but your statement is not quite complete. He named Rachael Ray and Dunkin Donuts for pulling the ad and told the viewers to decide who was the pinhead. He did not explain the controversy so that people would understand what it was about. It looked to me like he was calling the whole kerfuffle (i.e., us'ns) a pinhead.

Last night he was real busy making excuses for Obama's recent Uncle/WW2 gaffe. He still thinks he's gonna get him onto the Factor. It won't happen unless or until he's down significantly in the polls.

307 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:16:01pm

re: #299 Intrepid

I'd like to see for myself, actually. This is a very emotionally charged issue for many folks. Just trying to make my way through it.

All that matters is how it looked in the original ad photo. No amount of blowups or analysis can change that.

308 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:16:21pm

re: #220 ted

Rays hubby has a questionable past:

John Cusimano likes the spit
November 16th, 2006


The Food Network’s Rachael Ray’s husband John Cusimano loves to be spit on and have dirty feet rubbed all over him. These are the claims Jeannine Walz makes in The National Enquirer. According to Jeannine, she and John carried on a five year affair where she was paid $500 a session to spit on him.

“We’d often have sessions at least twice a month ... I virtually supported myself by spitting on him. But there was never any normal sex involved. He once offered to pay me $1,200 to perform a kinky sex act with him, but I refused.”

Reps for Rachael and John have laughed off the story. John should have just bought himself a llama. It might have been cheaper and made for a better story. He might have to watch out for Rachael though. I don’t think she’s ever eaten a llama. Monkey brains, snakes and penis maybe, but llama? No.

[Link: theblemish.com...]

Client #10?

309 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:16:27pm

re: #303 DesertSage

Got a "Picture not Available". But it's Larry and Magic. The two men who saved the NBA. Not up for debate.

310 pingjockey  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:16:44pm

re: #303 DesertSage
Nope, Close but no cigar.

311 jaunte  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:16:58pm

re: #291 Ciannaky

It's a bad idea to wear the kaffiyeh, for anyone that knows the political symbolism.
If the garment is useful for troops in the desert, they could easily produce a version without the pattern. The 'fashion intent' is to make a statement. The statement is "I'm with the people that wear this."

312 Nevergiveup  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:17:00pm

re: #303 DesertSage

This is old school, Grammy.

This is old school:

313 offendi  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:17:02pm

re: #295 buzzsawmonkey

I don't know that the President has the power to marry people. It's not as if he is a justice of the peace, or the captain of a ship.

/yeah, yeah, "ship of state" jokes can commence now.

Obama's Ship of Fools?

314 The Other Les  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:17:21pm

re: #291 Ciannaky

Not a fan, usually laugh at fools wearing them who don't know what a douche he was, especially in the People's Republic of Cambridge. So jaunte, British and US troops wear the damn things, are you going to show the same indignation to them as you would a filthy hippy in a che T or a clueless cooking tart? Didn't think so.

I wouldn't call Che a douche because that would be an insult to douches.

315 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:17:40pm

re: #304 pingjockey

This is old school...

316 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:17:48pm

re: #309 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Got a "Picture not Available". But it's Larry and Magic. The two men who saved the NBA. Not up for debate.

What's up for debate is whether or not it was worth saving.

317 pingjockey  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:17:53pm

re: #312 Nevergiveup
That is old school!

318 Grammy Cracker  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:18:22pm

re: #303 DesertSage

This is old school, Grammy.

I'm seeing *Image not available*. 'Splain it to me, Sage....LOL

319 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:18:35pm

re: #295 buzzsawmonkey

I don't know that the President has the power to marry people. It's not as if he is a justice of the peace, or the captain of a ship.

/yeah, yeah, "ship of state" jokes can commence now.

I would think the president could officiate at a wedding. anyone?

320 pingjockey  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:18:39pm

re: #315 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Hahaha! I remember the Trotters showing up on Scooby Doo.

321 DesertSage  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:18:43pm

re: #309 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Got a "Picture not Available". But it's Larry and Magic. The two men who saved the NBA. Not up for debate.

This one might be better.

322 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:18:46pm

re: #316 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Well, that is really grumpy, Big Dog Johnson.

But a great question.

323 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:19:05pm

re: #313 offendi

Obama's Ship of Fools?

The president can marry anyone with a marriage certificate. It's called being Commander in Chief.

Go ahead, tell him he can't...

324 ec marm  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:19:21pm

re: #295 buzzsawmonkey
Not sure if you saw this picture. A couple months back you thought that a Hill/Obama hook-up might be in the works.

325 offendi  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:19:39pm

re: #308 Bob in Breckenridge

Damn, thought #10 was Bill.

326 Sharmuta  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:19:42pm

re: #223 Syrah

Hell, we are about as tolerant of the Odin's Cross as we are of the Kaffiyeh.

And even more ignorant of the meaning.

327 pingjockey  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:19:53pm

re: #319 unrealizedviewpoint
I don't think so. Senators can't officiate at weddings, but one of the Supreme Court could.

328 Grammy Cracker  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:20:20pm

re: #309 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Got a "Picture not Available". But it's Larry and Magic. The two men who saved the NBA. Not up for debate.

Pshaw....I remember 'Magic' when he was Irvin....

/old enough to know better, young enough to not care....

329 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:20:28pm

re: #317 pingjockey

That is old school!

Old school is George Mikan, the first big man (6'10") to play in the NBA for the Minneapolis Lakers, from DePaul University in Chicago

330 DesertSage  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:20:35pm

re: #312 Nevergiveup

This is old school:
[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Yep! He's the REAL big "O"!

Obama's just a poser!

331 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:20:37pm
332 Nevergiveup  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:20:40pm

re: #317 pingjockey

That is old school!

I thought Oscar was the best till Jordan came around.

333 pingjockey  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:21:01pm

re: #328 Grammy Cracker
How about Lew Alcindor?

334 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:21:02pm
335 mama winger  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:21:16pm

re: #331 buzzsawmonkey

Brain bleach! Brain bleach! Brain bleach!

I dunno. I think Bill looks good there.

336 Grammy Cracker  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:21:44pm

re: #324 ec marm

Not sure if you saw this picture. A couple months back you thought that a Hill/Obama hook-up might be in the works.

That is SO damn funny! Someone really likes Photoshop, huh?

337 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:21:48pm
338 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:21:52pm

re: #327 pingjockey

I don't think so. Senators can't officiate at weddings, but one of the Supreme Court could.

The mayor of my hometown officiated at my moms 2nd marriage. Why not the prez?

339 Nevergiveup  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:21:54pm

re: #334 savage_nation

Wilt was the man.

He certainly was with the women!

340 wanumba  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:21:57pm

New York Times MISSED it COMPLETELY.
MARKETING FAILED.
It don't matter if it's "Right" or "Left." DUNCAN DONUTS hired a a firm to make ads to entice people to buy more donuts and coffee and whatever else while they were at it.

Inadvertently, the ad turned off a great number of their usual clients. RULE No. 1: the customer is ALWAYS right. Rule No. 2: the customer is ALWAYS right. It doesn't MATTER what turns off a customer, it could have been the color green in the ad was icky. Well, honestly, it was too pink overall. Rachel Ray was ghoulish in black and white and grey and the rest of the ad was too candy. IF the ad fails to elicite the desired result: buying MORE and attracting MORE customers, it's a failure. Back to the drawing board. Rule No. 3: the customer is ALWAYS right. The grievance groups whine all the time over less, but don't get a New York Times intoning opinion. Pheh! Stay out of it!

341 Nevergiveup  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:22:37pm

re: #337 buzzsawmonkey

"Now I'll admit I'm not the best in town
But I'll be the best 'til the best comes 'round."

--Don Redman

That's great.

342 pingjockey  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:22:51pm

re: #338 unrealizedviewpoint
Really? I don't know civil or uncivil law that good.

343 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:23:09pm
344 joecitizen  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:23:12pm

hang in there,Nebraska Lizards...37000 lightning strikes in the past hour..tornados abound

345 mama winger  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:23:28pm

Is ChristheProfessor around? I wanted to tell him the DNA results on my pound puppy.

346 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:23:34pm

re: #333 pingjockey

How about Lew Alcindor?

Joey: Wait a minute. I know you. You're Kareem Abdul-Jabar. You play basketball for the Los Angeles Lakers.
Roger Murdock: I'm sorry son, but you must have me confused with someone else. My name is Roger Murdock. I'm the co-pilot.
Joey: You are Kareem. I've seen you play. My dad's got season tickets.
Roger Murdock: I think you should go back to your seat now Joey. Right Clarence?
Captain Oveur: Nahhhhhh, he's not bothering anyone, let him stay here.
Roger Murdock: But just remember, my name is ROGER MURDOCK. I'm an airline pilot.
Joey: I think you're the greatest, but my dad says you don't work hard enough on defense. And he says that lots of times, you don't even run down court. And that you don't really try... except during the playoffs.
Roger Murdock: The hell I don't. LISTEN KID. I've been hearing that crap ever since I was at UCLA. I'm out there busting my buns every night. Tell your old man to drag Walton and Lanier up and down the court for 48 minutes.

347 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:23:51pm
348 Syrah  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:24:01pm

re: #326 Sharmuta

And even more ignorant of the meaning.

I think that the reason that the Big Lizard has been getting so much hate mail is that they can't handle the fact that he called them on their little game.

Nothing stings quite so much as being caught red handed.

349 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:24:11pm
350 pingjockey  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:24:23pm

re: #346 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"Don't call me Shirley".

351 jaunte  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:24:32pm

re: #340 wanumba

I have to admit that I also missed the point of that strange plastic "King" character they invented for Burger King.

352 DesertSage  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:24:34pm

re: #315 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Remember Dr. J?

Chick Hearn announcing.

353 CapeCoddah  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:24:47pm

re: #327 pingjockey
I dont know about other states, But in Massachusetts, anyone can get a special permit to officiate a wedding. It is a one shot deal thing, in case you want your best friend or whoever to do your ceremony.

354 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:24:51pm

re: #340 wanumba

The customer is King, but he's not always right.

355 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:25:09pm
356 Grammy Cracker  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:25:14pm

re: #333 pingjockey

How about Lew Alcindor?

Yes! Back in the day, athletes became Muslim to avoid the war, IIRC...

/Cassius Clay, etc.

357 ec marm  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:25:19pm

re: #336 Grammy Cracker

That is SO damn funny! Someone really likes Photoshop, huh?


It's like some artistic version of manic/depression. As I was dropping the different layers into Photoshop I was laughing my ass off one minute, the next soberly realizing that one of those critters could be the next President. I think that Bill looks good in blue. It's his color.

358 Nevergiveup  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:25:31pm

re: #347 savage_nation

yep. Cant argue that... :)

The only man to score 100 points in a single game

In what town?

359 doriangrey  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:25:41pm

re: #329 Bob in Breckenridge

Old school is George Mikan, the first big man (6'10") to play in the NBA for the Minneapolis Lakers, from DePaul University in Chicago


Old skool is Pistol Pete Maravich........................

360 jaunte  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:25:50pm

re: #355 buzzsawmonkey

Maybe Sony is behind it.

361 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:25:51pm

re: #346 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Great movie! And there's also Ward Cleaver's wife June talking jive!

362 solomonpanting  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:26:16pm

Media mogul Murdoch impressed by Obama

"Politicians and Washington are at an all time low, they are despised by 80 percent of the public ... And you've got a candidate who is ... trying to put himself above it all ... and he's become a rock star. It's fantastic."

A rock star without greatest hits, let alone any hits.

363 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:26:27pm

re: #349 savage_nation

Huh, where?

around Kearney, savage.

364 pingjockey  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:26:34pm

re: #349 savage_nation
Prolly the whole damn state. Fox news had an alert from the NWS this morning that is very seldom issued, don't remember the exact wording but basically in the Omaha area it was Oh Shit!

365 Nevergiveup  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:26:34pm

re: #359 doriangrey

Old skool is Pistol Pete Maravich........................

Old school or new school- Pistol Pete is one you would pay to watch practice.

366 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:26:36pm

re: #353 CapeCoddah

I dont know about other states, But in Massachusetts, anyone can get a special permit to officiate a wedding. It is a one shot deal thing, in case you want your best friend or whoever to do your ceremony.

Well, there ya go. Obama, as president, can officiate, one time, at one of the recently legalized marriage ceremonies.

367 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:26:47pm
368 Nevergiveup  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:27:03pm

re: #367 savage_nation

I think L.A.

Hersey PA

369 jaunte  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:27:14pm

re: #362 solomonpanting


You forget that often-played single of his, "Present."

370 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:27:33pm

re: #362 solomonpanting

Media mogul Murdoch impressed by Obama

A rock star without greatest hits, let alone any hits.

So he's nothing more than an "American Idol".

371 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:27:36pm

re: #221 mikeinmd

I wonder how many of these people bitching with the "it's only a scarf" line would actually point out a country on a blank map if you asked them to show you where Palestine is.

That's not fair. It's a fictional place. Like Narnia, Toontown, and Springfield.

/

372 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:27:49pm
373 Ciannaky  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:27:53pm

re: #311 jaunte

She's obviously an idiot who has her clothes picked out for her, do you think O'Reilly wearing a pinstripe suit provided for him by wardrobe dept means he supports the Mafia? All the gumbah's in my area all wear them so he must be a button man.

I agree that that employing any political symbolism is fraught with danger, but even the most political savvy amongst the pinheads in tvland would know that the symbol of Muslim resistance to the kuffar would be loath to incorporate a kuffar design - paisley is Indo-Aryan btw.

Most of the women wearing these scarves are just airheaded bimbo's who think the frilly paisley design at they see at Macy's for $14.99 makes them look Fabulous.

374 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:28:14pm

re: #343 buzzsawmonkey

What says "coffee" better than a coffeeyah?

creative!

375 Sharmuta  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:28:24pm

re: #348 Syrah

I think that the reason that the Big Lizard has been getting so much hate mail is that they can't handle the fact that he called them on their little game.

Nothing stings quite so much as being caught red handed.

From kaffiyeh wearing fools to crypto-fascist tools- direct sunlight can burn.

376 pingjockey  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:28:26pm

re: #356 Grammy Cracker
I think Jabbar converted after meeting Elijah Muhammed, not to avoid the war. He already had a college deferment.

377 jamgarr  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:28:34pm

OT - McClellen on Olberman now.

378 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:28:40pm

re: #329 Bob in Breckenridge

Old school is George Mikan, the first big man (6'10") to play in the NBA for the Minneapolis Lakers, from DePaul University in Chicago

Back in the forties, the first big man to dominate basketball was 7'0 Bob Kurland of Oklahoma State. OSU won national championships in 1945 and 1946, and beat Mikan's NIT champions in 1945.

Back then the NBA was not anything like what it is now. Traveling AAU "semipro" teams, generally sponsored by major corporations, were often better than the NBA teams. The NBA was in its infancy as a major professional sport.

379 sngnsgt  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:28:43pm

Greta just did a story about Rachael Ray's Kaffiyeh on Faux News.

380 Alouette  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:29:04pm

re: #277 ploome hineni

and her face is so bloated from botox and silicone

Not from stuffing donuts in her pie hole?

381 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:29:39pm

Also from Airplane...never really noticed it before. Funny.

Elaine Dickinson: Would you like something to read?
Hanging Lady: Do you have anything light?
Elaine Dickinson: How about this leaflet, "Famous Jewish Sports Legends?"

382 Grammy Cracker  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:29:47pm

re: #357 ec marm

It's like some artistic version of manic/depression. As I was dropping the different layers into Photoshop I was laughing my ass off one minute, the next soberly realizing that one of those critters could be the next President. I think that Bill looks good in blue. It's his color.

LOL, and so true. I can't believe I've been reduced to rooting for Cackles, but Barry HObama is too scary for words. Other than that, they're a laugh riot.

383 CatsPaw  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:29:51pm

re: #302 Neo Con since 9-11

I don't understand your comment.

384 Intrepid  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:30:10pm

re: #307 really grumpy big dog Johnson

All that matters is how it looked in the original ad photo. No amount of blowups or analysis can change that.

What you're saying then is that first impressions are what's important. Even if the eventually discovered facts of the situation do not equal the first impression. If the RR "neck cloth" is a) not a keffiyeh or b) not even the same as the ones the Palis wear, then what? I'm not saying it is or isn't, I just want to get a few more facts before coming to a conclusion.

Remember when the MSM posted that silly picture of when VP Cheney was fishing and there was a "naked woman" in the reflection of his sun glasses? Libs had a field day with that one! When all along it was the reflection of his fishing rod.

It doesn't hurt anything to find out more facts.

385 jaunte  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:30:27pm

re: #373 Ciannaky

I'm still not seeing any definitive proof that the scarf in question was paisley. That's what the Dunkin' Donuts people said it was. It isn't necessarily so.

386 solomonpanting  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:31:01pm

re: #370 Bob in Breckenridge

So he's nothing more than an "American Idol".


I've never seen "Idol" and have almost as much of a problem seeing Obama.

387 unrealizedviewpoint  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:31:11pm

re: #381 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Also from Airplane...never really noticed it before. Funny.

I've watched it at least 20 times, with each watching I find something absolutely new and funny I didn't see before. IMO it's the finest comedy ever.

388 Alouette  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:31:18pm

re: #241 pat

She is doing an Ad folks. She is being dressed by a Madison Avenue firm. She likely has no idea of the symbolism and is likely disturbed by it.

I'd say likely doesn't give a shit, except that her ad gig was trashed.

389 CapeCoddah  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:32:48pm

re: #371 Mars Needs Neocons

Narnia and Toontown...are those two of the 57 states Obama visited?

390 Grammy Cracker  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:33:01pm

re: #361 Bob in Breckenridge

Great movie! And there's also Ward Cleaver's wife June talking jive!

It's a perfect movie - pure brain candy! And Barbara Billingsley translating jive is still one of the funniest scenes EVAH.

391 pingjockey  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:33:39pm

re: #389 CapeCoddah
Yep. Plus Confusion and Hysteria.

392 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:34:28pm

re: #291 Ciannaky

Not a fan, usually laugh at fools wearing them who don't know what a douche he was, especially in the People's Republic of Cambridge. So jaunte, British and US troops wear the damn things, are you going to show the same indignation to them as you would a filthy hippy in a che T or a clueless cooking tart? Didn't think so.

He has a point on this. When I was in the sandbox the first time we were issued a nice tan rectangular piece of t-shirt fabric about 4 ft long. Now I see our guys wearing tan and black and green and black versions of these things.

393 CapeCoddah  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:34:51pm

re: #391 pingjockey

Thought so!

394 Geepers  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:35:02pm

Ciannaky says:

do you think O'Reilly wearing a pinstripe suit provided for him by wardrobe dept means he supports the Mafia?

Ofergodsakes.

395 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:35:23pm

re: #379 sngnsgt

Greta just did a story about Rachael Ray's Kaffiyeh on Faux News.

We don't have anything better to do than stop creeping islamism in its tracks. We are so worthless.

396 Neo Con since 9-11  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:35:29pm

re: #383 CatsPaw

Are you the same CatsPaw that wrote that despicable McCain cheek cancer piece at KOS? Not that you'd probably admit if you are?

397 pingjockey  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:36:03pm

re: #394 Geepers
Nope that means the Mafia supports the State Dept.

398 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:36:20pm

re: #390 Grammy Cracker

Cut me some slack, Jack! Chump don' want no help, chump don't GET da' help!

399 gman  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:37:02pm

re: #385 jaunte

I'm still not seeing any definitive proof that the scarf in question was paisley. That's what the Dunkin' Donuts people said it was. It isn't necessarily so.

Also, no mention of where the scarf was bought.

400 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:37:05pm

re: #389 CapeCoddah

Narnia and Toontown...are those two of the 57 states Obama visited?

I think those may have been two of the ones too dangerous for him.

401 sngnsgt  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:37:20pm

re: #387 unrealizedviewpoint

I've watched it at least 20 times, with each watching I find something absolutely new and funny I didn't see before. IMO it's the finest comedy ever.

"Surely you can't be serious?"
"I am serious, and please don't call me Shirley."
402 Ciannaky  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:38:12pm

re: #385 jaunte

Juante I saw the paisley the first time I saw the commercial, not as a result of their statement, and got into the same heated exchange on Hotair the afternoon they posted it. Also made the point here (I think my first comment ever) but no one responded so I left it alone. re: #392 Mars Needs Neocons

They're known as Shamaghs (sp?) to our boys and girls, and thanks bro for keepin us safe; wish my broken body would let me come watch your back.

403 Nevergiveup  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:38:24pm

re: #397 pingjockey

Nope that means the Mafia supports the State Dept.

Sometimes I think that if the Mafia ran the State Department the world would be a in better shape.

404 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:38:37pm

Sorry I can't stay--I just wanted to say hi. Good night, Lizards.

405 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:38:55pm

re: #402 Ciannaky

Juante I saw the paisley the first time I saw the commercial, not as a result of their statement, and got into the same heated exchange on Hotair the afternoon they posted it. Also made the point here (I think my first comment ever) but no one responded so I left it alone. re: #392 Mars Needs Neocons

They're known as Shamaghs (sp?) to our boys and girls, and thanks bro for keepin us safe; wish my broken body would let me come watch your back.

Not to worry, mine won't help much anymore either. Out in 95.

406 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:38:59pm

re: #384 Intrepid

What you're saying then is that first impressions are what's important. Even if the eventually discovered facts of the situation do not equal the first impression. If the RR "neck cloth" is a) not a keffiyeh or b) not even the same as the ones the Palis wear, then what? I'm not saying it is or isn't, I just want to get a few more facts before coming to a conclusion.

Remember when the MSM posted that silly picture of when VP Cheney was fishing and there was a "naked woman" in the reflection of his sun glasses? Libs had a field day with that one! When all along it was the reflection of his fishing rod.

It doesn't hurt anything to find out more facts.

The fact that it adorned her in typical ME terrorist fashion and the fact that she looks very Mediterranean had absolutely nothing to do with it. Yes, first impressions are most important.

Think about a certain Catholic priest who spoke outrageously at Obama's church, then quickly apologized for his aggregious speech.

Think about it some more. If I shoot you because you wear an IDF t-shirt, and apologize to your grieving family, what matters most?

407 pingjockey  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:39:25pm

re: #403 Nevergiveup

Heh! Dinner jacket, we are going to make you an offer you can't refuse.

408 Grammy Cracker  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:39:26pm

re: #404 goddessoftheclassroom

Sorry I can't stay--I just wanted to say hi. Good night, Lizards.

Good night, Goddess! 'Weet dreams!

409 jamgarr  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:40:01pm

Scott McClellan is a lightweight dick!

410 snowcrash  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:40:12pm

I have no idea what an ad campaign costs but Dunkin probably took a BIG hit to the pocketbook. Ad execs will be talking about the mistakes that were made for quite a while. Lesson learned I hope.

411 gman  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:40:15pm

re: #392 Mars Needs Neocons

He has a point on this. When I was in the sandbox the first time we were issued a nice tan rectangular piece of t-shirt fabric about 4 ft long. Now I see our guys wearing tan and black and green and black versions of these things.

I doubt people are wearing them here in the states to emulate the look of a soldier. When moonbats use the military "shemagh" excuse, they're just trying to deflect without having to rationalize.

412 Nevergiveup  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:40:30pm

re: #407 pingjockey

Heh! Dinner jacket, we are going to make you an offer you can't refuse.

Yeah, but he would wake up with a pigs head in his bed!

413 Ma Sands  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:40:57pm

re: #345 mama winger

I would be interested in hearing what kind of puppy you adopted.....if you're still around..... :)

414 razorbacker  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:41:09pm

re: #27 jcm

Okay I'm a cave man.

Just what is Ray's claim to 15 minutes of fame?

Other than posing in a "peace scarf" in front of the OR Capital Building.

I am perfectly willing to be corrected, but I am given to believe that Ms. Ray is what may be the last remaining example of what used to be a commonly occurring species.

A young woman who both can and will cook. Actual food, that is. From scratch, or basic ingredients.

There's an old country saying. Good looks don't last. Good cooking does.

415 pingjockey  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:41:10pm

re: #412 Nevergiveup

That is a priceless vision!

416 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:41:18pm
417 Grammy Cracker  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:41:41pm

re: #409 jamgarr

Scott McClellan is a lightweight dick!

Lightweight, yes. As for the other reference....that can be a rather useful, ahem, item - unlike Mr. McClellan.

418 Syrah  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:42:00pm

re: #416 savage_nation

Boy, the wind is howling outside. Lawn furniture is a-flying across the parking lot, wow

Savage, that train you hear might not be a train.

419 CapeCoddah  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:42:09pm

re: #416 savage_nation
Free lawn furniture!

420 jamgarr  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:42:41pm

"Tool" then - Oh, wait.

421 sngnsgt  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:42:43pm

re: #410 snowcrash

I have no idea what an ad campaign costs but Dunkin probably took a BIG hit to the pocketbook. Ad execs will be talking about the mistakes that were made for quite a while. Lesson learned I hope.

Yep, somebody's got lots of 'splainin to do around here Rucy.

422 Mich-again  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:42:46pm

The CoffeeYeah was Gaza fabulous.

423 DesertSage  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:42:48pm

Lakers are making their move.

424 Grammy Cracker  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:42:51pm

re: #413 Ma Sands

I would be interested in hearing what kind of puppy you adopted.....if you're still around..... :)

Oooh, ooooh....me too, me too! I just loves me some doggies! All doggies, actually.

/never met a cold wet nose I didn't like.

425 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:43:06pm

Anyway, off to bed. I think both sides (on here not in the msm) have valid points. And those of you who know me know I usually take a side. I think there is a large amount of cluelessness in the fashion industry. I think this is probably a paisley scarf, BUT that doesn't mean the designer didn't know exactly what he/she was doing. These fashion clowns do this stuff for a living, their whole career is based on knowing what looks like what.. There me have been a good chance the designer of this particular style knew damn well what it looked like. After all these are people who sue each other every day over "similarities" of design.

Out

426 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:43:06pm
427 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:43:31pm
428 goddessoftheclassroom  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:43:38pm

re: #416 savage_nation

Boy, the wind is howling outside. Lawn furniture is a-flying across the parking lot, wow

Are you in a hotel? Be sure the curtains are drawn and stay away frpm the windows. I'd sleep on the bathroom floor if I were you.

/worrywart mode

429 Syrah  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:43:46pm

re: #426 savage_nation

ya think its a twister?

You are there.

What do you see?

430 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:44:22pm

re: #411 gman

I doubt people are wearing them here in the states to emulate the look of a soldier. When moonbats use the military "shemagh" excuse, they're just trying to deflect without having to rationalize.

Doesn't mean it don't bother me seeing our troops wearing the design of the enemy. I even own a saudi Kaffiyeh. Gathering dust in a box somewhere, I sure as hell won't wear the damn thing.

431 jaunte  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:44:31pm

re: #402 Ciannaky

I think the point that needs to be made is that the controversy (silly as it may seem in this particular case) is worth publicizing, because of the person who originally popularized the garment, what he stood for, and the inadvertent-in-most-cases support for terrorism that is derived from the ignorant wearing of that symbol.
You can imagine it: "Look how many people across the world support our cause."

432 joecitizen  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:44:34pm

re: #349 savage_nation

Huh, where?

I believe basically through the whole state..sittin' and watchin' it rain takes on a whole new meaning,eh? be safe ol'Sav...

433 pingjockey  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:44:35pm

re: #424 Grammy Cracker
My new job has the added benefit of meeting at least 5 new dogs a day. When I get home my golden retriever damn near sniffs the pants off of me trying to figure out where I've been.

434 Mich-again  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:44:40pm

re: #416 savage_nation

Boy, the wind is howling outside. Lawn furniture is a-flying across the parking lot, wow

Was anyone sitting on the it holding on?

435 Carolyn  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:44:49pm
436 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:45:36pm

re: #402 Ciannaky

Juante I saw the paisley the first time I saw the commercial, not as a result of their statement, and got into the same heated exchange on Hotair the afternoon they posted it. Also made the point here (I think my first comment ever) but no one responded so I left it alone. re: #392 Mars Needs Neocons

They're known as Shamaghs (sp?) to our boys and girls, and thanks bro for keepin us safe; wish my broken body would let me come watch your back.

Since you are such an observant soul, would you be so kind as to help a fellow lizard out by letting me know what the building in the background is? I'm pretty dense. I couldn't even see it was paisley in a blowup, and believe me, paisley was all the rage in my late teens and early twenties, popularized by the poster makers for the music venue Fillmore West.

437 pingjockey  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:45:57pm

Nite all. Savage be safe! Buh bye.

438 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:46:43pm

And, you would think that the geniuses who designed the new camo patterns would have had the skills to change the patterns to something more appropriate like small american flags or similar.

439 CatsPaw  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:47:31pm

re: #396 Neo Con since 9-11

Are you the same CatsPaw that wrote that despicable McCain cheek cancer piece at KOS? Not that you'd probably admit if you are?

Are you joking? I saw the article the other day through a link here. I didn't even go past the picture.

440 Mich-again  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:47:32pm

Paisley is an anagram for Yes Pali...

441 Mars Needs Neocons  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:47:46pm

re: #438 Mars Needs Neocons

And, you would think that the geniuses who designed the new camo patterns would have had the skills to change the patterns to something more appropriate like small american flags or similar.

"speaking specifically of the Shemagh."

442 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:48:55pm
443 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:49:07pm
444 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:49:28pm

re: #428 goddessoftheclassroom

Are you in a hotel? Be sure the curtains are drawn and stay away frpm the windows. I'd sleep on the bathroom floor if I were you.

/worrywart mode

In 1999 the SPC issued a high probability/PDS alert in early May, and that day dozens of tornadoes killed over 50 people in Oklahoma and Kansas in the most costly (but not nearly the most deadly) tornado outbreak ever.

445 CapeCoddah  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:49:40pm

Savage, Here is a link to a cool site, has an interactive map, then other cool stuff to see whats coming down your street weather-wise
Part of the NOAA site, which I use a lot to track hurricaine possibilities here. Great weather info.
[Link: www.weather.gov...]

446 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:49:56pm
447 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:50:16pm
448 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:50:35pm
449 Syrah  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:50:40pm

re: #442 savage_nation

Nothing. All the power got blown out across the street. Tons of lightning

Something ugly may be creeping up on you.

A little paranoia when it comes to tornadoes is not a bad thing.

450 jamgarr  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:50:57pm

Olberman just called McClellan's book a "primary document of American history". Sheesh!

451 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:51:23pm

re: #443 savage_nation

Hey Savage, twister?

452 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:51:45pm
453 Grammy Cracker  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:52:22pm

re: #414 razorbacker

I am perfectly willing to be corrected, but I am given to believe that Ms. Ray is what may be the last remaining example of what used to be a commonly occurring species.

A young woman who both can and will cook. Actual food, that is. From scratch, or basic ingredients.

There's an old country saying. Good looks don't last. Good cooking does.

I'll give her that much... she uses mostly fresh ingredients, and her 'cheats' are usually things like pre-cut veggies, etc. Her meals are fast and easy. Not gourmet, or even adventurous, but decent for people in a hurry who don't know or care how to make something more frou-frou.

I actually liked her a LOT more during her first and second seasons. Now she's like a speed-freak on 3 gallons of caffeine.

454 Mich-again  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:52:33pm

re: #442 savage_nation

Nothing. All the power got blown out across the street. Tons of lightning

Tons of lightning. Ha

455 joecitizen  Thu, May 29, 2008 7:52:39pm