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Breaking: Obama Throws Church Under Bus!

Sat, May 31, 2008 at 3:29:23 pm PDT

Now the headline at CNN.com:

Barack Obama has resigned as a member of the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, his campaign says.

He’s doing it on a Saturday afternoon to try to avoid as much media frenzy as possible.

UPDATE at 5/31/08 3:58:19 pm:

Why isn’t this the leading story on the cable channels? Is “Sex and the City” more important — or is it the DNC meeting?

UPDATE at 5/31/08 4:05:42 pm:

Fox News has their bidirectional scrolling yellow emergency! banner going now.

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1 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:29:55pm
2 Cicero05  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:30:10pm

The wheels on the bus go 'round and 'round...

3 Killian Bundy  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:30:17pm

You can take Obama out of the church.

/but you can't take the church out of Obama

4 Shug  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:30:28pm

Did he join the Nation of Islam ?

5 godfrey  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:30:43pm

Are they going to refund the $26,000 he tithed?

6 RickZ  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:30:46pm

Now gee, that's a big surprise. Will he ask for a refund of his donations, too?

7 MarkX  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:30:55pm

Getting crowded under there..


Next!

8 Killian Bundy  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:30:57pm
Breaking: Obama Throws Church Under Bus!

/can Michelle be far behind?

9 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:31:00pm

First grandma, then his pastor now his church. He's going to need a bigger bus.

10 EC Marm  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:31:08pm

He could no more disavow... Opps.
Score one for Killgore's team now, I guess.

11 reno911  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:31:10pm

Wake me when BHO resigns from the race.

12 mitthrawnurdo  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:31:23pm

Lame, lame... just like the posters in the last thread noted, you can't disavow 20 years of hate preaching by resigning now.

/Does Messiah's bus have jaws painted on it?

13 Cicero05  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:31:24pm

Twenty years, enough is enough!

14 Opinionated  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:31:31pm

Heathen

15 ted  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:31:34pm

Change !

16 Sharmuta  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:31:55pm

His bus runneth over.

17 MarkX  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:32:01pm

re: #13 Cicero05

Twenty years, enough is enough!

That's what I told my ex.

18 godfrey  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:32:07pm

It's okay. wink wink He's a politician. Gotta do what he has to do. But he knows I'm comin' after him.

/The Rev

19 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:32:11pm

re: #10 EC Marm

Heh, I wonder if this means he's godless now.

20 savage_nation[deleted]  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:32:40pm
21 Opilio  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:32:55pm

At the risk of repeating myself,

Is this supposed to be one of Obama's patented shrewd political moves? Pitching some of your most ardent supporters over the rail on the eve of your coronation? Claiming what? They've changed? He's changed? He never knew what was going on there? I don't see how he comes out of this looking like anything other than a charlatan or a moron. Not that those are mutually exclusive.

22 Shug  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:32:56pm

re: #16 Sharmuta

His bus runneth over.

great

23 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:33:00pm

Notice when and how this was done.

No big speech, done on a Saturday.. (day before Sunday which is another chance for a stark-raving mad racist preacher to say something else), and remember Saturday is the dead-zone for news cycles. No pundit shows waiting to pounce... no H&C, no Glenn Beck, no talk radio.

And as another lizard pointed out in the last thread, the media is transfixed with the dem process itself at this point.

24 DesertSage  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:33:08pm

How is this going to make Michelle's kids lives any better?

/Oh, wait. Never mind.

25 mitthrawnurdo  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:33:10pm

re: #16 Sharmuta

"Don't throw me under da bus!"

26 Ornery Ballsack  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:33:12pm

From Barry's Philly speech:

"Some will see this as an attempt to justify or excuse comments that are simply inexcusable. I can assure you it is not. I suppose the politically safe thing would be to move on from this episode and just hope that it fades into the woodwork"

From Jeremiah Wright's appearance at the NPC:

"Politicians say what they say and do what they do based on electability, based on sound bites, based on polls -- Huffington, whoever's doing the polls."

/It does seem like Jeremiah Wright is MORE believable than Barry.

27 godfrey  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:33:15pm

Have Michelle and the kids been removed from Trinity, too?

28 ted  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:33:19pm

Where's Grandma ?

29 eff  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:33:57pm

He resigned only after the Wright affair blew up in his face.

Hopefully Iran's not the next thing to blow up in his face... that explosion will be much bigger.

30 Just_A_Grunt  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:34:00pm

Too little, too late. You can't flush 20 years of participation in the church down the drain and walk away from it. There is no doubt the philosophy, teachings, and impact of what he learned sitting in those pews and associating with that crowd will forever taint him and his thinking.
I can't throw away 20 years of military service as if it didn't happen and he can't just walk away from this either, especially since it was during a phase of his life, from age 20 something to present, which forms our character.

31 Cicero05  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:34:01pm

re: #28 ted

Where's Grandma ?

Bump-bump...bump-bump...bump-bump

32 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:34:04pm
33 savage_nation[deleted]  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:34:11pm
34 Charles  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:34:18pm

He's doing it on a Saturday afternoon to try to avoid as much media frenzy as possible.

35 Killian Bundy  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:34:22pm

NBC just reported that "Obama feels uncomfortable with what he's been hearing from the pulpit".

Gee, after only 20 years?

/little slow on the uptake

36 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:34:30pm

re: #28 ted

Where's Grandma ?

Caught in the rear trans-axle by now. Messy.

37 mitthrawnurdo  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:34:36pm

re: #21 Opilio

I doubt that'll matter to the "obamatrons" (forget where I first saw that term for Messiah supporters). They know that this resignation is for political expedience only.

38 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:34:36pm
39 stevieray  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:34:42pm

Wow! And just in time for the general election! What a coincidence!

Too little, too late.

Tell me, Barry... how are you gonna deprogram your kids? TUCC is their template for G_d and morality, and the lessons learned early have the deepest roots.

40 zombie  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:34:48pm

Membership in Trinity United Church was his main defense against accusations of still being a Muslim. "Hey, I'm a church-goer, so I can't be a Muslim, can I?"

Now that he's quit that church, he has no religious affiliation at all.

When was the last time we had a completely non-relgious/unaffiliated president?

Hell, even the Clintons would walk around with "show bibles" every Sunday, at least pretending to be religious.

41 Charles  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:34:54pm

It's still not on the cable channels.

42 unrealizedviewpoint  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:34:55pm

There's no way the whole Trinity congregation is gonna fit under the bus too. Barry's gonna have to trade it for a train.

43 solomonpanting  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:34:57pm

Quitter!

44 NoSubmission  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:35:11pm

Too little, too late!

45 HelloDare  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:35:18pm

Grandmother
Wright
Trinity

Next on list:
Ayers
Michelle

46 Cicero05  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:35:22pm

Judgment

47 Opilio  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:35:32pm

It must drive Hillary to the brink of insanity that she's actually losing to this schmuck.

48 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:35:38pm

re: #41 Charles

It's still not on the cable channels.

Even Drudge doesn't have it yet.

49 nyc redneck  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:35:42pm

his wife is next.

50 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:35:54pm

Something to look forward to....
Obama Quits His Church

Obama will address the matter this evening at a campaign stop in South Dakota.
51 MarkX  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:35:55pm

re: #41 Charles

Was on Fox, but now back to the Dims debate.

Perfect timing.

/

52 Charles  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:35:56pm

Fox is going to break in any second with one of the bidirectional yellow emergency scrolling banners....

53 unrealizedviewpoint  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:36:10pm

re: #34 Charles

He's doing it on a Saturday afternoon to try to avoid as much media frenzy as possible.

I guess the Sunday morning shows are pretty much in the can too.

54 mitthrawnurdo  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:36:17pm

re: #36 astronmr20

ala National Lampoon's Vacation?

55 Charles  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:36:32pm

Really, it was on Fox? Missed it.

Uh. Shouldn't this be, you know, news?

56 Sharmuta  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:36:32pm

re: #44 NoSubmission

I think they've completely removed the page. I don't think they weren't expecting the Lizards to enjoy it as much as we did.

57 Killian Bundy  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:36:39pm

re: #28 ted

Where's Grandma ?

Obama: My Grandmother Is a Racist Too

/roadkill

58 Cicero05  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:36:42pm

I wonder if Bill Ayers knows its housecleaning day at the Obama camp.

59 tradewind  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:36:56pm

DNC throws party under the bus if they put obama in the driver's seat this fall.
Talk about your buyer's remorse.........
I can just see Bubba now ' I tried to warn 'em'.......

60 HelloDare  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:37:06pm

re: #35 Killian Bundy

NBC just reported that "Obama feels uncomfortable with what he's been other people are finally hearing from the pulpit".

61 MarkX  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:37:07pm

OT

I'm watching the Dims committee debate, what a bunch of morons.

62 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:37:14pm
63 NoSubmission  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:37:21pm

re: #56 Sharmuta

I think they've completely removed the page. I don't think they weren't expecting the Lizards to enjoy it as much as we did.


It's still working off and on. But we should save them anyway. Some are just priceless!

64 nyc redneck  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:37:25pm

talk abt. trying to reinvent yourself.
he is as frivolous as madona.

65 unrealizedviewpoint  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:37:28pm

re: #40 zombie

Membership in Trinity United Church was his main defense against accusations of still being a Muslim. "Hey, I'm a church-goer, so I can't be a Muslim, can I?"

Now that he's quit that church, he has no religious affiliation at all.

When was the last time we had a completely non-relgious/unaffiliated president?

Hell, even the Clintons would walk around with "show bibles" every Sunday, at least pretending to be religious.

I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't hire on a Reverend to travel with him.

66 godfrey  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:37:30pm

This will all be ancient history as early as August.

67 Shug  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:37:35pm

re: #48 astronmr20

Even Drudge doesn't have it yet.

He already called Mahmoud. Hugo, and Fidel's nurse to let them know.

68 Yankee Division Son  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:37:49pm

I could no more disavow... Opps. (EC Marm reminds us of that gem)

Why do I suspect there are more "sermon" videos about to pop up...

69 ted  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:37:51pm

re: #34 Charles

He's doing it on a Saturday afternoon to try to avoid as much media frenzy as possible.

Great observation. Also right smack when the Dems are having their delegate sideshow.

70 ctrlL  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:37:57pm

re: #34 Charles

AND ... so he doesn't have to go to church tomorrow ! imho

/he must be home for some XXX tonight

71 Opilio  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:38:12pm

re: #29 eff

He resigned only after the Wright affair blew up in his face.

Hopefully Iran's not the next thing to blow up in his face... that explosion will be much bigger.

The affair d' Wright was 2 months ago. I think Father Pfegler (or whatever) was the tipping point. What a boob (Obama).

72 ted  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:38:12pm

re: #36 astronmr20

Caught in the rear trans-axle by now. Messy.

Oy...

73 DesertSage  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:38:13pm

Took him 20 years to figure out that he didn't agree with Trinity United....

....but we're supposed to believe that he knows more about troop levels than John McCain?

74 EC Marm  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:38:18pm

Florida delegates out!
Victory for Obama...
Chanting in gallery...
Denver, Denver, Denver...

75 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:38:21pm

re: #66 godfrey

This will all be ancient history as early as August.

By end of next week.

76 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:38:24pm

re: #52 Charles

Fox is going to break in any second with one of the bidirectional yellow emergency scrolling banners....

Maybe they'll even have a cool sound effect. If we're really lucky this story will get its own theme song.

77 solomonpanting  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:38:25pm

Did he resign unconditionally?

78 HelloDare  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:38:46pm

Amazing that the Democrats managed to somebody more lame than Kerry.

79 godfrey  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:38:50pm

CHANGE

80 NoSubmission  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:38:54pm

Okay, it positively BEGS the question:

WHAT COCKAMAMIE CHURCH WILL HE JOIN NEXT?

81 tradewind  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:38:57pm

re: #34 Charles

If he'd been sharp, he'd have done it Friday so that Scotty's book could have helped bury it even further.

82 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:39:01pm
83 mitthrawnurdo  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:39:06pm

re: #62 song_and_dance_man

At this rate, dozens of buses will have to be hooked together (with corresponding plows affixed) to satiate Obama's desire to throw people under them.

84 MarkX  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:39:11pm

re: #55 Charles

Just a mention by a talking head about 20 mins back --and a breaking box on MSNBC.

Don't know why they're burying this.

85 vagabond trader  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:39:18pm

Gee, Obama disavowing his "church." Er, um,ah, what's the hurry? lmao.

86 Cicero05  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:39:24pm

Obama didn't leave Trinity United; Trinity United left him.

(Buraq only just now noticed.)

87 Mich-again  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:39:34pm

The first open thread that I can recall here was a FNDT way back in the day. Charles posted a picture of a school bus and everyone tried to figure out the significance of the bus.

88 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:39:53pm

re: #78 HelloDare

I honestly thought kerry was going to be the worst we saw of any nominee for quite some time...


Guess I was wrong.

89 Sharmuta  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:39:55pm

To think this won't get media attention because it's Saturday afternoon just goes to show how unsavvy obama is. First of all- the rules of the media game have changed. Bad idea to pull this the day before the Sunday shows. Second of all- the rule used to be if you wanted the media to ignore it, you came out on Friday afternoon- after Rush's show was over. But now we have the blogosphere to keep it alive, and Sunday is only a day away. And Rush is unlikely to give this a pass.

90 Opilio  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:39:58pm

re: #52 Charles

Fox is going to break in any second with one of the bidirectional yellow emergency scrolling banners....

I haven't heard the Emergency Broadcast System sirens go off yet, but I'm bottling up some fresh water just in case...

91 MarkX  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:40:04pm

re: #86 Cicero05

LOL.

92 HelloDare  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:40:09pm

re: #62 song_and_dance_man

We're gonna need a bigger bus.

The Obama Bandwagon. It's humongous.

93 tradewind  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:40:09pm

re: #65 unrealizedviewpoint

The reverends Sharpton and Jackson are packed and ready, waiting for his call.

94 Cicero05  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:40:12pm

re: #80 NoSubmission

Okay, it positively BEGS the question:

WHAT COCKAMAMIE CHURCH WILL HE JOIN NEXT?

Tom Cruise could give him some direction.

95 ted  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:40:18pm

re: #74 EC Marm

Florida delegates out!
Victory for Obama...
Chanting in gallery...
Denver, Denver, Denver...

Bye Hillary !

96 Killian Bundy  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:40:21pm

Can you just imagine what the sermon at Trinity is going to be like tomorrow?

/all bets off

97 nyc redneck  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:40:32pm

can't wait to hear his pompous self important long winded uh uh uh speech abt why he decided to fling the (whole) congregation.

98 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:40:34pm

re: #84 MarkX

You don't know why? News flash.. the media is gay for Obama.

99 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:40:47pm

Ed Morrisey....
Obamas quit Trinity United Church of Christ

However, I don’t see how this helps, and it could hurt in two different ways. First, it confirms that the church is not in the mainstream, which once again calls his judgment into question. Wright and Pfleger gave these kinds of sermons there the entire time, not just over the last few weeks. The big problem is that the Obamas sat in that church for 20 years listening to these sermons and finding nothing objectionably about them until they got disseminated to the nation.

Second, and potentially more damaging, it shows Obama’s willingness to throw anyone over the side when the boat starts sinking. That won’t go over very well with his core supporters who have admired his loyalty to TUCC, who excused Wright by pointing out that he had retired, and who bought Obama’s explanation of the “wonderful community” and great works of TUCC. Is that now nothing more than a convenient lie?

100 The Other Les  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:40:50pm

That may be too much even for this two deck articulated nuclear powered bus.

101 zombie  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:40:59pm

Magic Bus

by the Who, Me?

Every day I add to the queue (too much, magic bus)
of folks to throw under the bus -- like you. (too much, magic bus)
They're so nervous, they just sit and smile (too much, magic bus)
Your time is coming, just wait a while. (too much, magic bus)

Thanks Rev. Wright, for getting me here (too much, magic bus)
Without your sermons I'd be stuck on my rear. (too much, magic bus)
I don't want to cause no fuss (too much, magic bus)
But can I throw you under my Magic Bus? (too much, magic bus)

102 Shug  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:41:00pm

His white half couldn't grasp the aural-oral concepts anyway

103 NY Nana  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:41:00pm

re: #67 Shug

Foxnews has it...and it was on ABC Nightly News.

Barack Obama and his wife Michelle have resigned their membership at the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, FOX News has confirmed, after controversies stemming from the congregation created a persistent distraction for Obama’s campaign.

Most recently, a Web video surfaced showing a Chicago priest, the Rev. Michael Pfleger, giving a guest sermon at the church Sunday in which he taunts Hillary Clinton and says she felt she was “entitled” to the presidency because she’s white.

Obama said he was deeply disappointed by the remarks and Pfleger apologized, but Clinton’s campaign still demanded Obama specifically reject the latest remarks.

By resigning his membership, Obama is taking the most definitive stand to date against the church.

He already has roundly condemned his former pastor Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr.

Videos of Wright’s sermons, in which he claimed the U.S. government created HIV to exterminate black people and said “God damn America,” threatened to derail Obama’s campaign when they first surfaced in March.

/Why didn't he wait longer?

104 gman  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:41:03pm

I look forward to the outrage from Trinity.

/still going to protect their man

105 godfrey  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:41:08pm

re: #82 ploome hineni

I wish I had a place in Chicago, just to zombify the festivities.

106 DesertSage  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:41:10pm

If he had any balls, he would have stayed.
Typical political expediency.

Now I can't believe anything about this guys life.

107 vagabond trader  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:41:18pm

Looks like the Obamites running his website are going to be up all night revising and airbrushing.Oh yeah, nice work Hillary!Change!

108 Onslow  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:41:22pm

re: #47 Opilio

Too little, too late.

They could have killed Obama's candidacy in January and February by ruthlessly exposing his connection to Wright. The bulletins, magazines and DVDs were there for the taking.

109 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:41:26pm

re: #89 Sharmuta

I think it was cleverly placed timing.. the Sunday shows are very limp.

110 mitthrawnurdo  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:41:31pm

re: #74 EC Marm

O-ba-ma, O-ba-ma!

Youtube Video

111 The Other Les  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:41:46pm

re: #80 NoSubmission

Okay, it positively BEGS the question:

WHAT COCKAMAMIE CHURCH WILL HE JOIN NEXT?

How about the Church of the Subgenius?

112 godfrey  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:41:48pm

re: #97 nyc redneck

It will be a historic speech. People will faint in the aisles. Chris Matthews will be doing something furiously behind his desk.

113 Sharmuta  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:41:58pm

re: #63 NoSubmission

You're right.

His bus runneth over!

114 MarkX  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:42:13pm

re: #80 NoSubmission

Okay, it positively BEGS the question:

WHAT COCKAMAMIE CHURCH WILL HE JOIN NEXT?

Brother Love's Travelling Salvation Show?

115 godfrey  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:42:19pm

What, he's a Scientologist now?

116 NY Nana  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:42:20pm

re: #76 Killgore Trout

See my #103.

117 Slumbering Behemoth  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:42:22pm

Cheech's insurance premiums are gonna skyrocket if this keeps up.

118 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:42:26pm

It was on FNC at the bottom of the hour and then they went on to regular program, "News Watch". And on "News Watch", Cal Thomas said there was NOT ONE footnote in scotty mcclellan's book.

119 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:42:28pm

re: #96 Killian Bundy

Good point. Rev. Wright was really pissed when he was first thrown under the bus but has since calmed down. I think they're really going to go nuts on Obama after this.

120 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:42:29pm

re: #100 The Other Les

That may be too much even for this two deck articulated nuclear powered bus.

Wow.. and it's a French rocket-bus!

121 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:42:31pm

Like his grandmother, they just couldn't shake their racism. It is ingrained in their culture. Obama is above them.

/change

122 Cicero05  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:42:44pm
Barack Obama and his wife Michelle have resigned their membership at the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, FOX News has confirmed

They handed in their membership cards and gave back the massive chips on their shoulders.

123 Charles  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:42:55pm

It's really telling that this isn't the main story on all networks right now.

124 mikeinmd  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:43:02pm

I wonder if Michelle is still going to go ?
After all, she's not running for anything, right ? RIIGGHHT.

125 godfrey  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:43:03pm

re: #121 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Shades of Malcolm X?

126 tradewind  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:43:07pm

Breaking... Obama finds traveling Parish to hit campaign trail with him....

Youtube Video

127 stevieray  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:43:07pm

re: #40 zombie

Membership in Trinity United Church was his main defense against accusations of still being a Muslim. "Hey, I'm a church-goer, so I can't be a Muslim, can I?"

Now that he's quit that church, he has no religious affiliation at all.

That defense never did hold water [not that the MSM would notice anyway]... after all, when the Rev. Wright needed security for his foray into the outside world [i.e. The Press Club in D.C.] who did he engage as his muscle? Why, his buddies the Nation of Islam, of course.

That church cared more if you were angry and black than they cared about Jesus or the Bible.

128 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:43:23pm
129 HelloDare  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:43:29pm

Where is Barack going to get his weekly dose of hate? Oh yeah, I forgot. Michelle.

130 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:43:30pm

It's too late baby, Now it's too late
Tho we really did try to make it.
Something inside has died and I can't hide and I just can't fake it.
Oh NO!

131 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:43:32pm

re: #119 Killgore Trout

Hoping someone brings a camera to Church tomorrow morning.

They'll call him every racist name in the book.

132 pingjockey  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:43:37pm

OT, started watching the donks at 7am PDT, it is now 3:45pmPDT and they just voted not to seat all of Florida delegates and the natives are very restless! Yay chaos rules!

133 bellamags  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:43:40pm

re: #106 DesertSage

lol

134 Killian Bundy  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:43:40pm

re: #111 The Other Les

How about the Church of the Subgenius?

/all hail Bob and his slackness!

135 Ornery Ballsack  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:43:41pm

Obama 2028

"Hey everybody. I just wanted to apologize and say I was wrong about Iraq, Iran, Socialized Medicine, terrorism, (fill in blank)."

136 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:43:45pm
137 nyc redneck  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:43:53pm

re: #112 godfrey

It will be a historic speech. People will faint in the aisles. Chris Matthews will be doing something furiously behind his desk.

lol
you are right on all counts.

138 Sharmuta  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:44:11pm

re: #109 astronmr20

I think it was cleverly placed timing.. the Sunday shows are very limp.

I think ted was closer- he did this when the dem's were meeting.

139 jemima  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:44:13pm

It didn't bother him until he was informed that it bothered us/the white electorate. If we didn't have talk radio and Fox blaring this vile venom 24/7, he'd still be with Trinity, as happy as a pig in mud. Michelle will hate us even more that we're offended by this. We have no right to be offended by this barrage of hate aimed at us because we deserve it. Pfleger got the mindset of this congregation right on target. Why should we assume Barry is any different than his fellow parishoners? He is loathesome.

140 Yankee Division Son  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:44:14pm

re: #123 Charles

It's really telling that this isn't the main story on all networks right now.

Someone has to drive that getaway bus ya know..

141 The Other Les  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:44:17pm

re: #120 astronmr20

Wow.. and it's a French rocket-bus!

Actually it was an American movie but the video I could find of it was in French.

142 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:44:23pm
143 MarkX  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:44:29pm

re: #123 Charles

The Dims are rumbling now in committee.

Things getting a little testy,

144 EC Marm  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:44:35pm

I can see how the left will spin this:

The tipping point for Obama was when a white Catholic priest came into his church and insulted his opponent.

Bank on it.

145 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:44:37pm

People in Florida are now being sold at half price. Just ask Alice Huffman. And besides, the dems are coming out of this hearing more united than ever before...

/party line starts here

146 DesertSage  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:44:37pm

All that money he gave to that church over the years, what a waste!

Now we're supposed to trust him with the federal budget?

147 The Other Les  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:44:40pm

re: #123 Charles

It's really telling that this isn't the main story on all networks right now.

We need our own network.

148 vagabond trader  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:44:47pm

Now all he has to do is convert to Judaism.

149 Charles  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:44:51pm

CNN has a red breaking banner on their web site, but their TV channel is covering an extremely boring DNC meeting... wtf?

150 Li'l Mamzer  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:44:53pm

can you spell E-X-P-E-D-I-E-N-C-E?

151 godfrey  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:45:01pm

re: #136 ploome hineni

Kabbala

lol

That will go over big with the Rev.

152 Charles  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:45:26pm

They don't want to affect this meeting. That's what it's about.

153 Shug  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:45:42pm

re: #136 ploome hineni

Kabbala


krappola

154 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:45:56pm

re: #145 really grumpy big dog Johnson

People in Florida are now being sold at half price. Just ask Alice Huffman. And besides, the dems are coming out of this hearing more united than ever before...

/party line starts here

Did they just vote for the half-delegate solution? ? ?

155 unrealizedviewpoint  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:45:59pm

re: #119 Killgore Trout

Good point. Rev. Wright was really pissed when he was first thrown under the bus but has since calmed down. I think they're really going to go nuts on Obama after this.

I kinda doubt it. The rev Wright has got his $10 million dollar house, 2 benz's and a book coming out in Oct. And yesterday's rev has apologized already. This'll probably all quiet down.

156 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:46:04pm

re: #103 NY Nana

/Why didn't he wait longer?


It might have something to do with the Dems' caucus thing today. Obama has hinted he's going to make a major announcement on Tues. The Koskidz are speculating that his statement will be that Hillary is out and the Dems have anointed him. If that's the case then this is the time to ditch his church, The story will be swept under the rug by declaration of victory on Tuesday.

157 gman  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:46:10pm

re: #89 Sharmuta

To think this won't get media attention because it's Saturday afternoon just goes to show how unsavvy obama is. First of all- the rules of the media game have changed. Bad idea to pull this the day before the Sunday shows. Second of all- the rule used to be if you wanted the media to ignore it, you came out on Friday afternoon- after Rush's show was over. But now we have the blogosphere to keep it alive, and Sunday is only a day away. And Rush is unlikely to give this a pass.

agreed. There is too much time before tomorrow for this not to go big

158 Cicero05  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:46:11pm

Baruch Chobama just announced he's now an Orthodox Jew.

159 Opilio  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:46:12pm

re: #99 Killgore Trout

Ed Morrisey....
Obamas quit Trinity United Church of

ChristSecond, and potentially more damaging, it shows Obama’s willingness to throw anyone over the side when the boat starts sinking. That won’t go over very well with his core supporters who have admired his loyalty to TUCC, who excused Wright by pointing out that he had retired, and who bought Obama’s explanation of the “wonderful community” and great works of TUCC. Is that now nothing more than a convenient lie?


Hey! He stole my metaphor!

Ok, probably not.

160 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:46:17pm

re: #131 astronmr20

Hoping someone brings a camera to Church tomorrow morning.

They'll call him every racist name in the book.

He'll now officially be an Uncle Tom.

161 tradewind  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:46:18pm

"We need to conduct ourselves like proper ladies and gentlemen"...
(and not like the Democrats we are)
Are ya'll hearing this shiite?

162 pingjockey  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:46:30pm

Can the Catholic church fire that looney priest or is defrocking the only option? Obamaramas new church will be the Church of What's Happenin' Now!

163 Sharmuta  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:46:33pm

If only he'd toss his marxist ideology under the bus.

164 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:46:44pm

re: #158 Cicero05

Baruch Chobama just announced he's now an Orthodox Jew.

Oy!

165 NY Nana  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:46:57pm

re: #80 NoSubmission

Okay, it positively BEGS the question:

WHAT COCKAMAMIE CHURCH WILL HE JOIN NEXT?

Why it is obvious! The Landover Baptist Church! ;)

166 ctrlL  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:47:01pm

re: #152 Charles

They don't want to affect this meeting. That's what it's about.

Bears repeating and bolding, Charles .....

They don't want to affect this meeting. That's what it's about.

167 NoSubmission  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:47:01pm

He'll find something to do in the meantime.

168 The Other Les  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:47:02pm

re: #148 vagabond trader

Now all he has to do is convert to Judaism.

But that would make him one of the evil Jooooooooooos!

/Sarcasm. Do not do this at home.

169 reno911  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:47:10pm

Really stupid of Obama to resign from his church. Reverend Wright had him by the balls (just imagine a Reverend Wright press conference very week) and now he might have bit the hand that fed him.

If there is no reaction from TUCC, you can be assured that Obama gave them a heads-up and they are playing along.

Clinton looks like George Washington compared to this guy.

170 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:47:11pm

re: #162 pingjockey

Can the Catholic church fire that looney priest or is defrocking the only option? Obamaramas new church will be the Church of What's Happenin' Now!

Ain't gonna happen-- look at his community programs and fundraising abilities.

171 tradewind  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:47:26pm

re: #160 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Naw, they will rail against the white devils and devilettes who forced a brother from his fellowship.

172 Charles  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:47:27pm

Wow. It's a total disconnect on the cable news channels.

173 MarkX  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:47:28pm

re: #161 tradewind

Yeah, she reminds me of my 9th Grade English teacher.

174 Opilio  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:47:56pm

re: #131 astronmr20

Hoping someone brings a camera to Church tomorrow morning.

They'll call him every racist name in the book.

I really, really doubt that.

175 Ringo the Gringo  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:48:10pm

He can become a Catholic, it might help him with the Hispanic vote.

He can join Pfather Pfleger's church.

176 gman  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:48:12pm

re: #169 reno911

Really stupid of Obama to resign from his church. Reverend Wright had him by the balls (just imagine a Reverend Wright press conference very week) and now he might have bit the hand that fed him.

If there is no reaction from TUCC, you can be assured that Obama gave them a heads-up and they are playing along.

Clinton looks like George Washington compared to this guy.

TUCC's reaction will speak volumes as to what is going on here.

177 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:48:18pm

re: #154 astronmr20

Did they just vote for the half-delegate solution? ? ?

They are just about through with it. 27 votes in favor, one absent, no dissent.

Show trial.

I now hear they are all very tired. After all, they've been back in session for a half hour now after the six martini lunch.

178 CIA Reject  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:48:24pm

re: #38 song_and_dance_man

Don't bus me bro'!

Just think - thanks to BO after 40 years "busing" is once again a hot topic in American political discourse...

/CHANGE! indeed...

179 pingjockey  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:48:40pm

re: #170 astronmr20
Had now idea. Really good community stuff huh? Well just poop.

180 Charles  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:48:43pm

Nothing on local LA news either.

181 nyc redneck  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:48:55pm

he is a man w/ no back bone. a fair weather friend, who ultimately caved on everything he held dear. who is this spineless person running for potus and so confident he will win? what fools he must think we are.
i think he screwed the waffle on this one.

182 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:48:56pm

re: #172 Charles

Google News shows a flurry of stories about this. The Cable folks must be asleep.

183 HelloDare  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:48:57pm

Q: Why are Obama's ears so big?

A: To help cool his massive brain.

184 Shug  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:49:09pm

BREAKING

This story is heading by armed escort to Al Capone's vaults

185 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:49:38pm

re: #179 pingjockey

Had now idea. Really good community stuff huh? Well just poop.

Supposedly. All sorts of programs for youth and anti-violence in South Chi-town.

186 solomonpanting  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:49:41pm

You shall not crucify me on a cross of truths.

William Jennings Obama

187 The Other Les  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:49:49pm

re: #152 Charles

They don't want to affect this meeting. That's what it's about.

What IS this meeting about?

188 vagabond trader  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:50:14pm

re: #169 reno911

I'm not convinced that denouncing Wright, the priest and now the church are not set ups. *wink* wink* You know, it's politics, nothing personal, we can still be friends when I get elected.

189 ciaospirit  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:50:24pm

re: #47 Opilio

It must drive Hillary to the brink of insanity that she's actually losing to this schmuck.

Now she knows how many other people who were more qualified felt when they lost jobs or opportunities for the same reason that she's losing this opportunity.

190 Opilio  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:50:24pm

re: #171 tradewind

Naw, they will rail against the white devils and devilettes who forced a brother from his fellowship.

My thoughts exactly.

191 Right Brain  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:50:34pm

An obvious feature of Barack Obama that many people are forgetting: when he ran for the United State Senate, he ran unopposed. This is the primary reason that all these skeletons are dropping out of the closet: the vetting that would have been done for a US Senator was not done.

Jack Ryan who ran against Obama for the Illinois seat vacated by a retiring Republican, was expected to win, however he withdrew after allegations were made against him by his estranged wife Jeri Ryan that among other things, he had slept with their daughter, had asked Jeri to perform sex acts in public, etc.

The MSM tried Ryan in the press and Obama got a free ticket to the Senate.

It will probably cost the Dems the 2008 election, Obama should have never gotten this far, or at least cleaned up his act before he tried.

192 pingjockey  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:50:38pm

re: #185 astronmr20

Well, I guess lunacy and good works aren't exclusive of each other.

193 snowcrash  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:50:42pm

Lift kit to get over human speed bumps.

194 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:50:46pm

re: #187 The Other Les

What IS this meeting about?

Faux unity. This will come back to bite them on the convention floor.

195 HelloDare  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:50:49pm

Obama should join a Hispanic church. He can pass.

196 debutaunt  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:50:54pm

re: #169 reno911

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

197 Sharmuta  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:51:00pm

re: #182 Killgore Trout

Google News shows a flurry of stories about this. The Cable folks must be asleep.

No- it's all over the net, but not TV. It's at fox's site, cnn's site, even abc's site. I did not see it at msnbc though.

198 mikeinmd  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:51:12pm

Obama needs no church. He is above religion, beyond it. He is his own religion. The masses flock and cheer. God on Earth.

SPIT.

199 ted  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:51:54pm

The Audacity of...of...?

Someone help me out !

Please !

200 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:51:57pm

re: #195 HelloDare

Obama should join a Hispanic church. He can pass.

Funny you mention that.. a lot of Hispanics I work with like McCain.

201 Mich-again  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:51:58pm

Now regarding the Michigan primary they are going to give Hillary 69 delegates and Obama 59 delegates with only 1/2 vote each. The dude wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan! They just divvied the delegates up by pulling a number out of their collective ass. Heck, why even have a primary next time? Just let the muckety mucks make a back room deal and save all the hassle of holding an election.

Ickes calls it a HIJACK!

202 pingjockey  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:52:13pm

re: #199 ted
Asshattery

203 Sharmuta  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:52:25pm

re: #197 Sharmuta

And usually- it's the other way around- the websites lag behind the networks.

204 zombie  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:52:27pm

re: #198 mikeinmd

Obama needs no church. He is above religion, beyond it. He is his own religion. The masses flock and cheer. God on Earth.

SPIT.

Exactly. Why be a member of some other guy's religion when you're the Messiah of your own new religion?

Now he can say, "I am in a church. The Church of Obama!"

205 Shr_Nfr  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:52:34pm

The Democrats are going to sit the entire delegation from Florida and Michigan, but only give them 1/2 a vote each. Given that slaves counted for 60% of a person once upon a time, I guess that will sorta show Florida and Michigan what the Demos think of them. And to think Gore made so much of counting those people in 2000.

206 callahan23  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:52:38pm

re: #167 NoSubmission

'Moonbat' or 'MOONB@T' won't work, please help.

207 VegasRick  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:52:38pm

re: #199 ted

The Audacity of...of...?

Someone help me out !

Please !

Poop!

208 Shug  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:52:42pm

re: #191 Right Brain

An obvious feature of Barack Obama that many people are forgetting: when he ran for the United State Senate, he ran unopposed. .

not true. he ran against a very formidable alan keyes

/

209 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:52:44pm

re: #201 Mich-again

Now regarding the Michigan primary they are going to give Hillary 69 delegates and Obama 59 delegates with only 1/2 vote each. The dude wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan! They just divvied the delegates up by pulling a number out of their collective ass. Heck, why even have a primary next time? Just let the muckety mucks make a back room deal and save all the hassle of holding an election.

Ickes calls it a HIJACK!

What? They handed delegates to him in MI? ?

210 ted  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:53:06pm

NYC Nada.

211 Arbalest  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:53:07pm

Not only does this action make Barak Hussein Obama look like an opportunist who merely does what he thinks the public wants to hear and thinks he's fooling them (and still believes what he believes anyway), but it makes his political advisors look like rookies.

I recall that not so long ago, a presidential candidate ran on the platform that his selection of advisors would make up for any of his deficiencies.

BHO seems to have selected a collection of rookies / incompetents. Being unable to select competent advisors is easily as bad as being inexperienced, and maybe much worse.

BHO: the “New Coke” candidate. Don’t make this mistake.

212 Mich-again  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:53:08pm

Ickes: Gall and Chutzpah!

213 NoSubmission  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:53:34pm

Worship ME!

214 The Other Les  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:53:43pm

re: #194 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Faux unity. This will come back to bite them on the convention floor.

What could they do? Wang Chung tonight?

[Link: www.flickr.com...]

215 Cicero05  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:53:43pm

re: #201 Mich-again

Now regarding the Michigan primary they are going to give Hillary 69 delegates and Obama 59 delegates with only 1/2 vote each. The dude wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan! They just divvied the delegates up by pulling a number out of their collective ass. Heck, why even have a primary next time? Just let the muckety mucks make a back room deal and save all the hassle of holding an election.

Ickes calls it a HIJACK!

It's been a central priniciple of Dhimmocrat ideology that people are too stupid to make important decisions. So why should they let 'em pick their candidate?

216 bellamags  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:53:45pm

re: #209 astronmr20

I can feel the ground trembling with feminist protest.

217 debutaunt  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:53:47pm

re: #199 ted

The Audacity of...of...? bugging out.

Someone help me out !

Please !

218 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:53:48pm

re: #201 Mich-again

Now regarding the Michigan primary they are going to give Hillary 69 delegates and Obama 59 delegates with only 1/2 vote each. The dude wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan! They just divvied the delegates up by pulling a number out of their collective ass. Heck, why even have a primary next time? Just let the muckety mucks make a back room deal and save all the hassle of holding an election.

Ickes calls it a HIJACK!

Thirty soon-to-be-very-rich committee members outweigh over a million voters.

219 ted  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:53:48pm

re: #202 pingjockey

Asshattery

Good..

220 HelloDare  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:53:49pm

A messiah doesn't need a church. He is the church.

221 jemima  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:53:58pm

The Audacity of Expediency

222 unrealizedviewpoint  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:54:27pm

re: #172 Charles

Wow. It's a total disconnect on the cable news channels.

They don't think, nor want to think this is relevant. If it's ignored, it just is, and always has been.
Didn't he leave that church a long time ago?

223 Mich-again  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:54:30pm

Ickes is getting down with his bad self. Oh and the Hillaryites are starting to whoop it up.

Probbbb-lemmmm!

224 Shr_Nfr  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:54:33pm

re: #204 zombie

Gosh, what is the Church of the Gore going to say to that? We need C&F to do a special cartoon. My Repent Less Ye Burn T-shirt is now obsolete.

225 Sharmuta  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:54:42pm

re: #199 ted

The Audacity of Scrutiny.

226 tradewind  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:54:43pm

re: #191 Right Brain

Didn't Obama strong-arm his way into that seat with the same politics-as-usual tactics that he deplores?
Is that Jeri Ryan who played the DA on Shark?

Wow.... Ickes is really ticked! Using the A word all over the place........tsk tsk.......

227 HelloDare  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:54:48pm

If he were really serious about the Jewish vote, he could pull a Sammy Davis Jr.

228 MarkX  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:55:20pm

re: #205 Shr_Nfr

Watch Harold Ickes now.

Bitch slapping the committee. LOL

229 Shug  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:55:22pm

re: #227 HelloDare

If he were really serious about the Jewish vote, he could pull a Sammy Davis Jr.

no rhythm

230 psyop  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:55:26pm

re: #221 jemima

The Audacity of Expediency

That made me laugh so hard beer came out my nose...

231 WhiteRasta  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:55:32pm

re: #180 Charles

The dinosaur media become less relevant and less informed and less current, every day.

232 HelloDare  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:55:35pm

Time to drag out his old prayer rug.

233 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:55:40pm

Just tuned to C-span... it's a circus. They are all over the place.

Delegates cannot be taken from one candidate and given to another.

(Odd... many of them are wearing "saturday clothes..")

234 NY Nana  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:55:42pm

re: #156 Killgore Trout

It might have something to do with the Dems' caucus thing today. Obama has hinted he's going to make a major announcement on Tues. The Koskidz are speculating that his statement will be that Hillary is out and the Dems have anointed him. If that's the case then this is the time to ditch his church, The story will be swept under the rug by declaration of victory on Tuesday.

I think you have the answer. And the kossies are actually speculating what a lot of others have already said. They practice GroupThink 101.

/I wonder if they also wear the same clothes.

235 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:55:46pm

re: #201 Mich-again

It's European style post-Democracy. Leaders are not elected, they're selected by elites or on scheduled rotation to be equally "fair" to everybody.

236 neverquit  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:55:48pm

Seems like Barak has finally sold his soul to the Devil, he got those Me and the Devil Blues

Early this mornin', when you knocked upon my door
Early this mornin', ooh, when you knocked upon my door
And I said, "Hello, Satan, I believe it's time to go"

Me and the devil, was walkin' side by side
Me and the devil, ooh, was walkin' side by side
And I'm goin' to beat my Trinity Church, until I get satisfied

Rev. Wright say you don't see why, that you will dog me 'round
(spoken: Now, Reverend, you know you ain't doin' me right, don'cha)
Wright say you don't see why, ooh, that you will dog me 'round
It must-a be that old evil spirit, so deep down in the ground

You may bury my body, down by the highway side
(spoken: Baby, I don't care where you bury my body when I'm dead and gone)
You may bury my body, ooh, down by the highway side
So my old evil spirit, can catch a Greyhound bus and ride

237 Cicero05  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:55:51pm

re: #199 ted

The Audacity of...of...?

Someone help me out !

Please !

The Lubricity of Soap

238 nyc redneck  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:55:53pm

i bet bill ayers will be getting some road rash soon.

239 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:56:08pm

Jeez.. they are yelling like it's british parliament!

240 solomonpanting  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:56:12pm

I peeked at HuffPo and they're reporting the story.

241 ted  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:56:13pm

Hillarys Total Gain: 12.5 Delegates.

242 Blitherakt  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:56:25pm

re: #201 Mich-again

... The dude wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan! ...

Didn't he actually pull himself off of the ballot in protest of the convention being against the rules or something to that effect?

243 Mich-again  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:56:25pm

Not a good way to start down the path of Party unity!


Hillary is gonna protest it all !

244 tradewind  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:56:33pm

Ickes has dropped the nuclear option on em....

245 jamgarr  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:56:33pm

Ickes just announced that they're going to Denver!

246 HelloDare  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:56:39pm

re: #238 nyc redneck

i bet bill ayers will be getting some road rash soon.

He'll be looking both ways before he crosses the street.

247 zombie  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:56:44pm

So, you're a member of Trinity United, by your own admission, for 20 solid years, during which time all sorts of racism and extremism are preached...and as soon as the outside world gets a glimpse of your religous home-base, you quit and disavow any connection with it?

Gee, that's not hypocritical in the slightest!

Now, what about all the people who defended Rev. Wright and defended Obama's connection to Trinity United? Obama has left them twisting in the wind.

And the next time Pfleger preaches there, will he mock Obama, for abandoning them?

248 ted  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:56:50pm

re: #225 Sharmuta

The Audacity of Scrutiny.

Yes. Well said.

249 Opilio  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:56:55pm

re: #226 tradewind


Is that Jeri Ryan who played the DA on Shark?

The very same.

250 terri g  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:56:58pm

Too little, too late. Boy, that's a mighty big bus isn't it?

251 unrealizedviewpoint  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:57:03pm

re: #200 astronmr20

Funny you mention that.. a lot of Hispanics I work with like McCain.

McCain/Kennedy comprehensive immigration reform maybe?

252 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:57:04pm

re: #209 astronmr20

What? They handed delegates to him in MI? ?

The theory is that if Obama hadn't withdrawn his name he would have gotten most of the 45% that didn't vote for Hillary.

Let's ignore that only 25% voted as undecided. By diluting the votes in half in both states, they are railroading the unelectable B Obama into the nomination.

Intelligence is not one of their stronger attributes.

According to what was just said by Ickes, Hillary's gonna take this to the credentials committee and the floor of the convention.

You reap what you sow.

253 psyop  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:57:17pm

I really hope he is the nominee...

If he thinks the fight for the nomination was hard, and that his life and associates were scrutinized too much, and that his wife was unfairly criticized, wait 'til the general.

This is going to be fun....

254 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:57:23pm

They're chanting "Denver! ! Denver! !"

255 Crepuscular Prick  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:57:27pm

Obama is resigned to Hope and Change.

256 debutaunt  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:57:33pm

re: #241 ted

Hillarys Total Gain: 12.5 Delegates.

Someone wasn't all that 'super' it seems.

257 JammieWearingFool  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:57:37pm

I hope the cameras are rolling at Trinity tomorrow. This should be fun.

258 HelloDare  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:57:44pm

Wonder what the fall out will be in the black community?

259 MarkX  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:57:48pm

re: #239 astronmr20

Jeez.. they are yelling like it's british parliament!

So much for unity.

A lot of yelling going on now.

260 Mich-again  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:57:51pm

Please Refrain !

261 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:57:54pm
262 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:58:14pm
263 Sharmuta  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:58:15pm

re: #243 Mich-again

Not a good way to start down the path of Party unity!


Hillary is gonna protest it all !

Go, Hillary, go! Never give up, never surrender!

264 NoSubmission  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:58:27pm

re: #257 JammieWearingFool

I hope the cameras are rolling at Trinity tomorrow. This should be fun.


Yea, break out the Trinity Hate Cam.

265 EC Marm  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:58:33pm

Chants at DNC:
"Denver, Denver, Denver, Denver, Denver, Denver, Denver, Denver, Denver, Denver, Denver..."
Order in a 'mile high' supply of popcorn.

266 tradewind  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:58:50pm

Someone needs to start yelling ' Recreate '68 '

267 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:58:50pm

We are witnessing a party meltdown.. live.


Everybody go to C-span.. it's quite entertaining.

268 bellamags  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:58:59pm

"this is a fair and good result." he he he he he

269 NY Nana  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:59:03pm

On ABC News: All the delegates will be seated.

270 Mich-again  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:59:11pm

Dudes gonna break his gavel!

271 wrenchwench  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:59:11pm

re: #156 Killgore Trout

The story will be swept under the rug bus by declaration of victory on Tuesday.


/couldn't help myself...

272 Luigi  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:59:14pm

One of the great quotes of all time came earlier from one of the ladies who was trying to quiet a protester:

Do you believe in democracy? This is the next best thing!

273 Charles  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:59:18pm

Where are the media?

This is unbelievable.

274 Yankee Division Son  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:59:22pm

OMG... POPCORN! I NEED POPCORN! DENVER!

275 CIA Reject  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:59:31pm

re: #162 pingjockey

Can the Catholic church fire that looney priest or is defrocking the only option? Obamaramas new church will be the Church of What's Happenin' Now!

The local Bishop can, under the priest's vow of obedience, tell him to STFU. This is what happened to that lunatic Fr. Coughlin back in the 30's. If I remember properly that was also in Chicago- I wonder what it is with the bishops out there that they put up with so much nonsense before exercising their authority...

276 Blitherakt  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:59:39pm

re: #269 NY Nana

On ABC News: All the delegates will be seated.

With the correct number of votes, or will they be distributing them via coin toss?

277 Charles  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:59:45pm

I saw that at the DNC meeting -- they just screamed at each other to shut up.

278 solomonpanting  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:59:46pm

Yahoo News is now reporting it.

279 vagabond trader  Sat, May 31, 2008 3:59:50pm

re: #257 JammieWearingFool

Yeah, they always seem to have a camera handy when riding dirty.

280 sngnsgt  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:00:09pm

OT

Breaking:

Ford solves illegal Mexican immigration problem!

281 MarkX  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:00:12pm

re: #267 astronmr20

We are witnessing a party meltdown.. live.


Everybody go to C-span.. it's quite entertaining.

Yeah, just think how much fun will be had in Denver.

'68
'68
'68
'68

282 tradewind  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:00:19pm

re: #273 Charles

CNN HD is streaming it live.....

283 Mich-again  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:00:23pm

re: #275 CIA Reject

Fr. Coughlin back in the 30's. If I remember properly that was also in Chicago

Nope. Detroit.

284 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:00:32pm

re: #256 debutaunt

Someone wasn't all that 'super' it seems.

The superdelegates in those states will almost totally nullify that delegate gain, just like they did in another state recently.

Take it away from the most popular candidate and reward the chosen one.

285 Charles  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:00:45pm

Here goes Fox.

The bidirectional scrolling yellow banner!

286 bellamags  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:00:56pm

here we go. racism racism racism.

287 unrealizedviewpoint  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:01:09pm

re: #258 HelloDare

Wonder what the fall out will be in the black community?

none, whitey went and twisted all them words.

288 MarkX  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:01:18pm

re: #277 Charles

I saw that at the DNC meeting -- they just screamed at each other to shut up.

Yeah, just Dims being them true selves.

Dims using Pretzel Logic... love it.

289 Charles  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:01:20pm

Maybe they couldn't find the yellow banner file, and that's why it took so long.

290 TexasAC  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:01:22pm

Reward for bein' the numbah one honky hater!
[Link: elections.foxnews.com...]

291 Mich-again  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:01:29pm

Howie Dean is rolling up his sleeves right about now..

292 Blitherakt  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:01:43pm

Man was this the wrong Saturday to get stuck at work...

293 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:01:43pm

re: #285 Charles

They had to warm up the yellow scrolling banner engines.

294 tradewind  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:01:50pm

Wait... they may seat them all, but they're only getting half a vote each. So what's the difference between seating them all with half a vote, or seating half of them with a full vote?

295 wrenchwench  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:01:50pm

re: #273 Charles

Where are the media?

This is unbelievable.

Look in the mirror....they've been replaced.

296 bellamags  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:01:55pm

propaganda - ? hijacked?

297 Charles  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:01:57pm

Emergency! Emergency!

298 pingjockey  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:01:57pm

re: #249 Opilio
7 of 9, forget that DA shit. Them unitards or whatever they were, wow!

299 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:01:59pm
300 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:02:08pm

re: #276 Blitherakt

With the correct number of votes, or will they be distributing them via coin toss?

Wrong, they'll seat all the delegates, but the counts will be halved, and somehow Obama just gained dozens of delegates from people who never voted for him.

The Demonratic Party.

301 Mich-again  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:02:13pm

Selective Amnesia!

302 MarkX  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:02:14pm

re: #291 Mich-again

Howie is probably throwing up about now.

303 NY Nana  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:02:17pm

re: #285 Charles

Foxnews just led the 7PM News with the announcement....and are talking about it.

304 dewie  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:02:43pm

It is on FOX now..... 4:03 Saturday West Coast

305 FishFearMe  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:02:46pm

Grandma got run over by a Greyhound...!

306 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:02:51pm

re: #297 Charles

Emergency! Emergency!

"...everybody out of the street!"

307 ted  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:02:56pm

re: #295 wrenchwench

Look in the mirror....they've been replaced.

Look in the mirror....they've been replaced.

Look in the mirror....they've been replaced.

Bravo !

308 The Other Les  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:02:56pm

re: #273 Charles

Where are the media?

This is unbelievable.

So was a Stalin-era copy of Pravda.

309 Blitherakt  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:02:57pm

re: #300 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Wrong, they'll seat all the delegates, but the counts will be halved, and somehow Obama just gained dozens of delegates from people who never voted for him.

The Demonratic Party.

And when will Algore be filing suit?

310 Charles  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:02:57pm

Superdelegates may have told him to deal with it, according to Fox.

311 bellamags  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:03:02pm

re: #289 Charles

its a bi-directional, quad-speed election alert!

312 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:03:17pm

re: #305 FishFearMe

Grandma got run over by a Greyhound...!

LOL!

313 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:03:43pm

CNN feed.. control room operator needs to get his cell phone the hell off the console.

314 MarkX  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:03:46pm

re: #300 really grumpy big dog Johnson


The Demonratic Party.

Yeah, don't you love their logic.... LOL

315 tradewind  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:03:47pm

This is starting to take on the feel of a Trinity sermon.....
The poor Chairman looks totally nervous......

316 PloniAlmoni  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:03:56pm

Hopefully the media will report on it tomorrow or at the very least on Monday. Can you imagine, after 20 years of membership, Barack Obama decides to quit during his presidential campaign, what a coincidence?

There is good news though! Susan Sarandon will be moving to Italy or Canada if McCain wins! Now, Sarandon is pretty much married to Tim Robbins, so McCain's win will be a trifecta - McCain wins, Robbins and Sarandon are gone!

317 Mich-again  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:04:20pm

These people are gonna be scrapping in the lobby on the way out of that hall. Oh I hope they will be broadcasting that.

318 bellamags  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:04:34pm

Clinton Superdelegate speaking on CNN

319 snowcrash  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:04:36pm

Love DNC infighting.

320 Blitherakt  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:04:51pm

re: #317 Mich-again

These people are gonna be scrapping in the lobby on the way out of that hall. Oh I hope they will be broadcasting that.

I expect a YouTube barrage will hit at some point, at the very least.

321 GregInSeattle  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:04:57pm

I guess my Liberal buddy will now have to admit that the Trinity problem has mattered after all (he had said it wouldn't matter).

322 tradewind  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:05:00pm

Uh oh....
They almost didn't let a white female Clinton supporter speak....that was close.....

323 debutaunt  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:05:10pm

re: #306 astronmr20

"...everybody out of the street!"

I love that movie!

324 NY Nana  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:05:21pm

re: #276 Blitherakt

I think it is 1/2 vote per person...it is going to be on Foxnews as soon as they finish talking about Hussein....they said he will speak about leaving his 'church' in Nebraska...and will go to it live.

/Rules are only made to break in Demonrat Land.

325 pingjockey  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:05:21pm

re: #306 astronmr20
Funny damn movie!

326 HelloDare  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:05:23pm

Obama's new set of wheels.

327 Sharmuta  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:05:24pm

Can the super delegates change their votes?

328 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:05:31pm
329 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:05:32pm

re: #323 debutaunt

I love that movie!

Ha! ! ! Someone got it ! heh.

330 DesertSage  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:05:46pm

Obama just doesn't like it when a typical whitey Catholic priest starts talking like a black preacher. That was just too much for him.

He's such a racist.

331 tradewind  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:06:05pm

re: #320 Blitherakt

RNC needs to be editing their free campaign footage as we speak.... advertising courtesy of DNC.

332 gibsonz  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:06:09pm

The undercarraige of the Obama bus is becoming quite the crowded area.

333 tradewind  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:06:20pm

re: #327 Sharmuta

Yes

334 MarkX  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:06:24pm

re: #327 Sharmuta

The Dims change their rules by the minute.

335 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:06:34pm

re: #332 gibsonz

The undercarraige of the Obama bus is becoming quite the crowded area.

Just needs to be power-washed. then he can resume.

336 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:06:39pm
337 NY Nana  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:06:39pm

re: #319 snowcrash

Should I get the popcorn ready?

338 The Other Les  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:06:48pm

re: #316 PloniAlmoni

Hopefully the media will report on it tomorrow or at the very least on Monday. Can you imagine, after 20 years of membership, Barack Obama decides to quit during his presidential campaign, what a coincidence?

There is good news though! Susan Sarandon will be moving to Italy or Canada if McCain wins! Now, Sarandon is pretty much married to Tim Robbins, so McCain's win will be a trifecta - McCain wins, Robbins and Sarandon are gone!

Oh they'll just sit around the cafes of Rome whining about how McCain stole the election by winning fair and square.

339 pingjockey  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:06:53pm

re: #327 Sharmuta
Yes. They can do what ever they please!

340 sattv4u2  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:07:18pm

re: #334 MarkX

The Dims change their rules by the minute.

hard to change what you've never had !

341 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:07:20pm
342 ted  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:07:20pm

Dems are so happy on CNN.

Applauding themselves and scratching each others asses backs.

343 Mich-again  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:07:20pm

Here comes the vote on the Michigan motion...

344 Blitherakt  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:07:23pm

re: #324 NY Nana

/Rules are only made to break in Demonrat Land.

Indeed. The states broke the rules by moving the primaries, the candidates broke the rules by insisting the results be counted from invalid primaries, and the committee has broken the rules by seating everybody at half a vote each.

Priceless.

Seriously, when do we see Al Gore suing to get everybody's vote counted?

/It would only be fair...

345 MarkX  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:07:24pm

re: #320 Blitherakt

I'm surprised MSMBC hasn't pulled the plug.

346 Oh no...Sand People!  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:07:28pm

re: #16 Sharmuta

His bus runneth over.

ROFL!
BWAAAAHAAAAHAAAA!

(That. Was. Hilarious.)

347 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:07:37pm

re: #338 The Other Les

Oh they'll just sit around the cafes of Rome whining about how McCain stole the election by winning fair and square.

She might buy a house there and say she has moved.. but she'll still be taking up space over here unfortunately.

348 tradewind  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:07:41pm

This is Michigan, right?
Where are all the reps from Dearbornistan, Detroitistan, etc?
I don't see a keffiyah in the bunch.

349 bellamags  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:07:43pm

re: #338 The Other Les

My dad just paid $180 for a tank of diesel (passenger vehicle).

I hope they move. But they will be back shortly

350 Cicero05  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:07:51pm

The DNC is starting to look like the Taiwanese National Assembly.

351 DesertSage  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:07:59pm

re: #336 song_and_dance_man

Probably doesn't care for Gore either.

You mean he's not gong to pick Gore for VP?

352 Sharmuta  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:08:00pm

re: #333 tradewind

re: #334 MarkX

re: #339 pingjockey

So even if they pledged support to obama, they can switch their votes?

353 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:08:10pm

1/2 pledged delegate for Michigan vote happening now....

354 Mich-again  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:08:14pm

re: #348 tradewind

This is Michigan, right?
Where are all the reps from Dearbornistan, Detroitistan, etc?
I don't see a keffiyah in the bunch.

John Dingell is their Congress critter.

355 sattv4u2  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:08:19pm

If they raise BOTh hands, does it count as TWO votes ?

356 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:08:30pm

Wow, Hillary's gonna get five votes gained out of Michigan. What a jackpot!

/this is just filthy...

357 zombie  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:08:30pm

re: #350 Cicero05

The DNC is starting to look like the Taiwanese National Assembly.

Riot in the Diet!

358 Sharmuta  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:08:34pm

re: #346 Oh no...Sand People!

Thanks!

359 pingjockey  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:08:37pm

re: #341 ploome hineni
Gaaak! Whiskey with whiskey, popcorn and beer, beer and pretzels. I don't think whiskey goes with any snacks.

360 NY Nana  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:08:44pm

Shrill has authorized her 'people' to keep up the fight to count all her votes past today! She wants to be Albore...

361 bellamags  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:08:46pm

re: #338 The Other Les

He bought the gas in Italy. sorry that was an important detail of my post. :)

362 Blitherakt  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:09:10pm

re: #355 sattv4u2

If they raise BOTh hands, does it count as TWO votes ?

I think raising their right hands overpowers their leftward leaning, thereby submitting a -1/2 vote instead.

363 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:09:14pm

re: #350 Cicero05

The DNC is starting to look like the Taiwanese National Assembly.

Without the punching, unfortunately.

364 tradewind  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:09:21pm
All those opposed please raise your hand


Not clap and stomp, raise your hand!

365 Mich-again  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:09:24pm

19 in favor...
8 against

The motion carries.

See y'all in Denver!

366 Ma Sands  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:09:28pm

[OT: This Grandma is gettin' run over by a tornado & heavy, large hail, comin' in......due to hit any sec.....suddenly dark after bright, bright sunshine just a couple of minutes ago.....sirens wailin'....]

367 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:09:28pm

Motion passed.

368 unrealizedviewpoint  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:09:32pm

re: #330 DesertSage

Obama just doesn't like it when a typical whitey Catholic priest starts talking like a black preacher. That was just too much for him.

In Obama's defense, it was too much. I ask - Have you ever seen someone pander like that pig in a priests costume?

369 jamgarr  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:09:33pm

Denver! Denver! Denver!

370 bellamags  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:09:35pm

The motion carries.

Now there is chanting and banging

371 sattv4u2  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:09:42pm

Holy Shit ,,,, it's the Quaker Oats Guy !

372 solomonpanting  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:09:50pm

re: #316 PloniAlmoni

There is good news though! Susan Sarandon will be moving to Italy or Canada if McCain wins! Now, Sarandon is pretty much married to Tim Robbins, so McCain's win will be a trifecta - McCain wins, Robbins and Sarandon are gone!

But don't both Canada and Italy have conservative governments?
;'D

373 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:09:51pm
374 Blitherakt  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:09:55pm

re: #359 pingjockey

Gaaak! Whiskey with whiskey, popcorn and beer, beer and pretzels. I don't think whiskey goes with any snacks.

Whiskey (Irish, at least) goes with apple cider rather well. You might try a Granny Smith.

375 DesertSage  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:09:59pm

So much for "every vote counts, every vote should be counted".

376 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:10:00pm

DENVER DENVER DENVER DENVER! ! ! !

377 bellamags  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:10:10pm

These people are friggin idiots

378 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:10:15pm

denver... fuck yeah! ! ! !

379 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:10:16pm

re: #366 Ma Sands

[OT: This Grandma is gettin' run over by a tornado & heavy, large hail, comin' in......due to hit any sec.....suddenly dark after bright, bright sunshine just a couple of minutes ago.....sirens wailin'....]

Careful there Ma!

380 Mich-again  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:10:19pm

Too much ruckuss in the hall!

SECURITY!

381 pingjockey  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:10:22pm

re: #352 Sharmuta
I believe so. Hah! Woman wanting people to shut up. The mob is becoming unruly! Secure the doors! Mwahahaha!

382 mitthrawnurdo  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:10:22pm

re: #363 astronmr20

Watch for knives in the back, though.

/DNC only fights dirty these days...

383 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:10:24pm

re: #360 NY Nana

Shrill has authorized her 'people' to keep up the fight to count all her votes past today! She wants to be Albore...

At least her beef is not a scam.

384 tradewind  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:10:26pm

Please Lord, just let 'em start throwing punches.....

385 bellamags  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:10:29pm

SECURITY

386 jamgarr  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:10:30pm

Secure the doors!

387 JammieWearingFool  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:10:32pm

It's all giving ammo to the rightwing hatemongers!

In the wake of the Father Michael Pfleger controversial sermon last Sunday at Trinity United Church of Christ, Barack Obama sent a letter yesterday resigning from his place of worship for the past 20 years.
I sort of, kind of, understand why he did it. But I’m also sort of, kind of, concerned about what this might portend for an Obama presidency.
Rev. Jeremiah Wright and Trinity are community building blocks that the right wing has turned into bricks to be thrown at presidential candidate Obama from now until the general election ends in November—and perhaps beyond.
So in an attempt to turn manufactured right-wing ammo into blanks, Obama has completely separated himself from his minister and his church. What worries me is this: Can we expect a President Obama to cave in to the whims and will of the right on policies and issues he knows are important, if this nation is to move forward in a progressive and compassionate manner? Can we expect him to genuflect to negative reports by an uninformed, misinformed or ill-willed media? Is the candidate of change willing to go-along in a willy-nilly get-along fashion?
I hope not, but I’m not sure.
Obama knows what Trinity is about. I’ve only set foot in the church twice in my life and I know what it’s about. It’s nothing like it’s being portrayed in the national media. Nor is Rev. Wright.
Obama knows that Rev. Wright and his church and Father Pfleger have been forces for good on Chicago’s South Side for three decades. Both Trinity and Father Pfleger should have known the Catholic priest’s racially-tinged mocking Hillary Clinton performance would only be perceived as another weapon to use against Obama. They should know, as I know, that they ultimately left the Illinois senator with little political choice.
I also know that perception can become reality in our media-defined world. But reality is not always perception. And, the reality is that Obama cannot let the right-wing dictate his principles.
388 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:10:35pm
389 MarkX  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:10:36pm

re: #363 astronmr20

Without the punching, unfortunately.

Yet.....

390 debutaunt  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:10:40pm

Where the heck is code pink?

391 Oh no...Sand People!  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:10:54pm

re: #358 Sharmuta

Thanks!

There is funny. Then there is funny.

I am like taking care of the kids and it pops in my head and I laugh out loud kind of funny.

392 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:10:55pm

security! ! ! !

393 NY Nana  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:11:13pm

re: #341 ploome hineni

need whiskey

Sorry...don't have any. Want a Fresca™ ?

Ploomie, this is the loooooooooooooooooooo0ongest
primary in my 70 years.

/Stop the world primary! I want to get off!

394 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:11:13pm
395 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:11:17pm

19 in favor, 8 opposed.

396 snowcrash  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:11:32pm

19 votes in favor and 8votes against. Doesn't sound like party unity in DNC Michigan. Lots of hollering.

397 Blitherakt  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:11:54pm

re: #394 song_and_dance_man

I wish he would. That way at the Convention Al Gore could do his impersonation of a black preacher.

I'd pay to see that... It could wind up as a remix like that old Steve Ballmer "Developers, Developers, Developers" thing.

Priceless.

398 danS  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:11:59pm

Time for a new poster.

399 pingjockey  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:12:03pm

re: #374 Blitherakt
Apple cider yeah, I meant snack food. Like for a football game. Denver could be roller derby, WWF, and the Roman coliseum in one package.

400 bellamags  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:12:04pm

How embarassing

401 zombie  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:12:07pm

The C-Span web site freezes my browser.

I don't have TV.

Someone, please, tell me: what is this DNC meeting that's going on? What just happened?

Explain as simply as possible, plus the consequences. Thanks!

402 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:12:23pm

re: #366 Ma Sands

[OT: This Grandma is gettin' run over by a tornado & heavy, large hail, comin' in......due to hit any sec.....suddenly dark after bright, bright sunshine just a couple of minutes ago.....sirens wailin'....]

OMG, stay safe! {Ma Sands}

Please check in with us when all's well.

403 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:12:39pm

re: #387 JammieWearingFool

It's all giving ammo to the rightwing hatemongers!

That's bs of a world class order.

404 mitthrawnurdo  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:12:51pm

re: #401 zombie

All hell is breaking loose?

/shrugs, I dunno what's going on at Run DNC.

405 gibsonz  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:13:03pm

re: #394 song_and_dance_man

I wish he would. That way at the Convention Al Gore could do his impersonation of a black preacher.
--------
What...Al Gore isn`t a black preacher,oh that`s right he is the world`s weatherman.

406 sattv4u2  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:13:04pm

ATTICA ,, ATTICA ,, ATTICA

407 Blitherakt  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:13:06pm

re: #399 pingjockey

Apple cider yeah, I meant snack food. Like for a football game. Denver could be roller derby, WWF, and the Roman coliseum in one package.

How about Apple Chips?

408 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:13:11pm

re: #401 zombie

The C-Span web site freezes my browser.

I don't have TV.

Someone, please, tell me: what is this DNC meeting that's going on? What just happened?

Explain as simply as possible, plus the consequences. Thanks!

Voting on weather or how to include the michigan pledged delegates. Motion put forward that gives each pledged delegate a half-vote.

Motion passed.

409 zombie  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:13:14pm

re: #395 astronmr20

19 in favor, 8 opposed.

To what? ? ? ? ?

410 NoSubmission  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:13:21pm

re: #267 astronmr20

We are witnessing a party meltdown.. live.

Everybody go to C-span.. it's quite entertaining.


Superbly entertaining. Even better than the Libertarian Convention last week.

411 tradewind  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:13:28pm

re: #401 zombie

Zombie,
Picture a sunday service at Trinity, with multiple ministers of opposing denominations.

412 Ma Sands  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:13:33pm

re: #388 ploome hineni

Awwww.... :)

413 snowcrash  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:13:35pm

I liked the lone voice crying out from the doorway "how could you do this to us" Denver, Denver, Denver

414 akak  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:13:47pm

Demonrat = half

sounds fookin fab

415 zombie  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:13:48pm

re: #408 astronmr20

Ah, OK.

But what does it mean?

416 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:13:49pm

re: #409 zombie

To what? ? ? ? ?

They're going to denver.

417 JammieWearingFool  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:13:54pm

re: #403 really grumpy big dog Johnson

That's bs of a world class order.


I left him a comment. Let's see if he's got the guts to post it.

418 NoSubmission  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:13:57pm

The chickens have come home...

419 The Other Les  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:13:59pm

Got a thunderstorm and tornado warning up here in Minneapolis.

420 Right Brain  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:14:05pm

re: #208 Shug

I assume thats parody? He beat him by 50 points

421 NY Nana  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:14:08pm

Foxnews live: 1/2 the MI and FL delegates go to convention. Agreed upon.

/For now.

422 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:14:11pm

re: #415 zombie

Ah, OK.

But what does it mean?

There are articles all over the place...

423 Ma Sands  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:14:22pm

re: #402 goddessoftheclassroom

Yes, dear. Couldn't keep myself FROM doing such..... :) Thanks for caring.

424 pingjockey  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:14:23pm

re: #401 zombie
This is the donk meeting to resolve the Fla/MI delegate mess. Fla/MI delegates seated with each delegate getting 1/2 vote.

425 bellamags  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:14:24pm

re: #401 zombie

19 for 8 against. The chairman is having a hard time keeping the peace. Random shouting and hissing from the back of the room. Giggles. Reached a vote. not going to satisfy Hillary voters.

426 eaglewingz08  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:14:26pm

Fifteen thousand people thrown under the Obama Express Bus. When the going gets tough the Obamanation goes a throwin everyone under.
It's like the ballonist Wizard of Oz, who throws all the ballasts overboard and can't pick up Dorothy, shouting, 'I don't know how to run this crazy thing!'
The Obamanation may think he's now innoculated from further WRIGHTEOUS indignations, but this calls his judgment into even further disrepute.

427 Roentgen  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:14:43pm

re: #387 JammieWearingFool

It's all giving ammo to the rightwing hatemongers!

Hi Guys:
What's up? Wanna monger-up some hate?

428 JammieWearingFool  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:14:43pm

re: #417 JammieWearingFool

I left him a comment. Let's see if he's got the guts to post it.


Yes, it's there. I was scrolling the wrong way.

429 The Other Les  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:14:54pm

re: #411 tradewind

Zombie,
Picture a sunday service at Trinity, with multiple ministers of opposing denominations.

Time for a trip to the Thunderdome.

430 DesertSage  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:14:59pm

Let's see:

Hillary wins popular vote.
Obama wins nomination.

Selected - NOT ELECTED!

The Democrat's chickens....are coming home....to roost!

431 zombie  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:15:02pm

re: #425 bellamags

19 for 8 against. The chairman is having a hard time keeping the peace. Random shouting and hissing from the back of the room. Giggles. Reached a vote. not going to satisfy Hillary voters.

But who is unhappy? The Obama people or the Hillary people? And why?

432 NoSubmission  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:15:02pm

So who will the Trinity Church mob vote for now?

433 mikeinmd  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:15:08pm

Howard Dean mix

434 vapig  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:15:10pm

re: #387 JammieWearingFool

From your post:
"I sort of, kind of, understand why he did it. But I’m also sort of, kind of,..."

I don't know about the rest of you, but a guy who sort of, kind of, says, "sort of, kind of" as a nervous tick is really NOT the guy I want speaking for the US.

435 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:15:24pm

re: #401 zombie

The C-Span web site freezes my browser.

I don't have TV.

Someone, please, tell me: what is this DNC meeting that's going on? What just happened?

Explain as simply as possible, plus the consequences. Thanks!

Obama got a free ticket to ride on the Reading. The delegate counts were predetermined and weighed unfairly in Obama's favor. Since the actual delegate margins would have been too damaging, they reduced Michigan and Florida to slave status worth 50% of full participation.

The Dems are the party of unity and equality. Amen, and let's close this meeting still unified and moving forward for change.

/NYT headline tomorrow

436 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:15:24pm

re: #431 zombie

But who is unhappy? The Obama people or the Hillary people? And why?

Hillary people.

437 NY Nana  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:15:26pm

re: #390 debutaunt

Where the heck is code pink?

Do you really, really want to know? Really? ;)

438 vagabond trader  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:15:31pm

Dems= 1/2 a vote. Sounds kinda racist to me.

439 ciaospirit  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:15:33pm

Isn't it convenient that Obama now gets to blame a whitey as the reason he had to leave his church.

440 hermeneutics  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:15:47pm

Zombie, I think it means that all of the delegates from MI and FL will go to the convention but ... they aren't "real" delegates but only have 50% vote.

The most disenfranchised delegates are those of Hillary. Since she won most of Mi (without O on the ballot) she should take those delegates. She won't.

So the Hill supporters, I hope, will be going ballistic.

441 Blitherakt  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:15:53pm

re: #433 mikeinmd

Howard Dean mix

Heh. Rock on.

442 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:15:56pm

re: #431 zombie

But who is unhappy? The Obama people or the Hillary people? And why?

They basically gave some pledged delegates to Obama.

443 The Other Les  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:16:08pm

re: #426 eaglewingz08

My lack of God! Who's driving the bus, the SS-Totenkopf?

444 tradewind  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:16:11pm

The headline coming out of this meeting is from Ickes:
' We reserve our right to take this to the convention'.

Cue music from Jaws.

445 NoSubmission  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:16:13pm

For a minute there it looked like the committee chairman is wearing an Obama button on his lapel. But it's the mic.

446 bellamags  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:16:17pm

Poor Scott Mclellan, he is no longer an issue.

Bad timing brother. dumbass.

447 The Other Les  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:16:37pm

re: #437 NY Nana

Do you really, really want to know? Really? ;)

No.

448 Mich-again  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:16:37pm

re: #431 zombie

But who is unhappy? The Obama people or the Hillary people? And why?

Hillary wanted all the Michigan delegates. Hers was the only name on the ballot. She defeated Undecided by 55-45. Yet they gave her only 69 delegates and Obama the other 59.

449 solomonpanting  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:16:40pm

re: #430 DesertSage

Let's see:

Hillary wins popular vote.
Obama wins nomination.
McCain wins general.
Selected - NOT ELECTED!

The Democrat's chickens....are coming home....to roost!

450 JammieWearingFool  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:16:41pm

Libns think so highly of people.

Unfortunately, many voters don't choose candidates based on facts and reason, but on impressions, hearsay, and emotion, and they are all easily influenced or manipulated. It's a particularly sensitive time for Obama and he can't afford to give Clinton or McCain's campaigns (as well as the 527's) any ammunition.
451 conservativeChick  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:16:43pm

20 years to late Barry.

452 pingjockey  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:16:49pm

re: #431 zombie
The beasts minions are pissed. They want the votes counted, all the votes from Fla/MI, shouting still going on at c-span. The beasts flying monkeys are mad!

453 zombie  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:16:52pm

Has Hillary said she will take the right all the way to the convention?

Definitively?

454 danS  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:16:53pm

re: #418 NoSubmission

Whoever made this utility is a genius.

455 DesertSage  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:16:55pm

re: #439 ciaospirit

Isn't it convenient that Obama now gets to blame a whitey as the reason he had to leave his church.

Yep, how convenient for him.

456 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:16:55pm

Adjourned, still in disarray, some yelling and screaming from the halls.

457 snowcrash  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:17:02pm

All delegates will be seated but they only are worth half vote each. Does this sound like something that should be contested in court?

458 unrealizedviewpoint  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:17:15pm

re: #446 bellamags

Poor Scott Mclellan, he is no longer an issue.

Bad timing brother. dumbass.

He'll be on Meet the Press tomorrow & O'Reilly on Monday.

459 Roentgen  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:17:24pm

Charles, is it too late to book a block of rooms in Denver?

460 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:17:25pm

re: #401 zombie

I believe,that the michigan delegates count as 1/2 vote each now,and 1/2 the delegates from fla.may vote.

DISENFRANCHISEMENT!

461 kansas  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:17:38pm

re: #80 NoSubmission

Okay, it positively BEGS the question:

WHAT COCKAMAMIE CHURCH WILL HE JOIN NEXT?

He can return to his Muslim roots. Oh, I forgot that's just simply not true. My bad.

462 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:17:47pm

re: #453 zombie

Has Hillary said she will take the right all the way to the convention?

Definitively?

It won't matter what she says, she can change her mind (and rarely tells the truth anyway).

463 EC Marm  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:17:55pm

Denver! Denver! Denver!

464 Oh no...Sand People!  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:17:55pm

Michigan's and Florida's citizens are only worth half a vote.

Stay classy Dems.

465 mitthrawnurdo  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:17:57pm

re: #452 pingjockey


"I'll get you, my little pretty! And your little bus too!"

466 NY Nana  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:18:00pm

re: #418 NoSubmission

The chickens have come home...

So what's for dinner? Demonrats Flambé, fava beans, and a bit of Chianti?

467 NoSubmission  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:18:12pm

re: #454 danS

Whoever made this utility is a genius.


Like minds... I just made the same one, my friend!

468 Sounder  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:18:15pm

Too late. It's disingenuous. If he did it 20 years ago, one could understand. He is a phony!

phony, phony, phony.

469 hermeneutics  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:18:17pm

Has there been any response from Hillary or Ickes about going to the convention. Actual words. No predictions.

470 bellamags  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:18:22pm

re: #458 unrealizedviewpoint

(wishful thinking?)

471 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:18:23pm
472 Sharmuta  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:18:29pm

re: #457 snowcrash

All delegates will be seated but they only are worth half vote each. Does this sound like something that should be contested in court?

Yes! After all the hullabaloo in 200 about counting all the votes- the dems pull this on their own people. I never again want to hear a dem speak about voter disenfranchisement!

473 mitthrawnurdo  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:18:36pm

re: #463 EC Marm

My eyes are melting from seeing that. Thank you.

474 MarkX  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:18:57pm

re: #456 astronmr20

PIAPS just got bitch slapped today. Obama gained control of the Democratic Party today. This was the Clinton's last stand.

This was big.

475 Roentgen  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:18:58pm

re: #463 EC Marm

Good one!

476 eaglewingz08  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:19:01pm

As for the DNC fiasco, Blacks have always fumed about the indignity of the 3/5 compromise (although it protected blacks by limiting the power of slave states by limiting their representative power in Congress), now we have the fifty percent compromise and I don't think the feminists supporting Hillary will stomach that any easier than blacks stomach the 3/5 plan.
This summer keeps getting better and better. The popcorn will be buttered this August, I am glad I bought stock in Orville's Company, after Iowa. It's paying many happy returns.

477 pingjockey  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:19:02pm

re: #465 mitthrawnurdo
The bus has been lubed well, what with all the folks tossed under it.

478 NY Nana  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:19:04pm

re: #447 The Other Les

Me, either.

479 VegasRick  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:19:09pm

re: #468 Sounder

Too late. It's disingenuous. If he did it 20 years ago, one could understand. He is a phony!

phony, phony, phony.

With a capital F!

480 bellamags  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:19:16pm

re: #458 unrealizedviewpoint

maybe o'reilly will realize what a BETTER story the whole Barack leaving the church is and CANCEL scott?

481 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:19:21pm
482 JammieWearingFool  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:19:26pm

re: #460 Boondock St. Bender

I believe,that the michigan delegates count as 1/2 vote each now,and 1/2 the delegates from fla.may vote.

DISENFRANCHISEMENT!

A huge step back fro the days of segregation. What was it, 3/5ths back then?

/racist Democrats!

483 Sharmuta  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:19:28pm

re: #472 Sharmuta

Err- in 2000.

484 AuldTrafford  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:19:35pm

After 7:15 p.m., and Drudge still doesn't have this up.

485 The Other Les  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:19:38pm

re: #459 Roentgen

Charles, is it too late to book a block of rooms in Denver?

I've found ads for houses and apartments for rent during the RNC in St. Paul on Craigslist. Check the listing for Denver.

486 NoSubmission  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:19:38pm

re: #461 kansas

WHAT COCKAMAMIE CHURCH WILL HE JOIN SLEEP THROUGH NEXT?


He can return to his Muslim roots. Oh, I forgot that's just simply not true. My bad.


Yes. and I stand corrected.

487 tradewind  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:19:43pm

re: #446 bellamags

He's happy.... Kevin Spacey's already tied down the movie rights.....
Recount **being such a hit, and all....

**Actually, it was pretty interesting.... HBO is showing it again tonight at 7 Central.

488 Mich-again  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:19:52pm

re: #469 hermeneutics

Has there been any response from Hillary or Ickes about going to the convention. Actual words. No predictions.

Yes, Harold Ickes made the threat that it could go all the way to Denver.

489 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:19:53pm

We are witnessing the meltdown of the Democratic party. Live.

490 unrealizedviewpoint  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:19:56pm

re: #467 NoSubmission

Like minds... I just made the same one, my friend!

repost link to utility again please?

491 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:20:07pm

re: #453 zombie

Has Hillary said she will take the right all the way to the convention?

Definitively?

Ickes personally said he was advised by Hillary that she would be taking it to the credentials committee. That means a convention floor fight.

Do yourselves a favor. Don't go to Denver. It's gonna be ugly there.

492 NoSubmission  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:20:18pm

re: #463 EC Marm

Denver! Denver! Denver!


Good one. :()

493 kansas  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:20:26pm

re: #458 unrealizedviewpoint

He'll be on Meet the Press tomorrow & O'Reilly on Monday.

By Monday he'll be history and already nobody gives a shit.

494 jamgarr  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:20:58pm

re: #469 hermeneutics

Has there been any response from Hillary or Ickes about going to the convention. Actual words. No predictions.


Ickes: ". . . reserve the right. . . "

495 danS  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:21:04pm

re: #467 NoSubmission

Like minds... I just made the same one, my friend!


link

496 NoSubmission  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:21:06pm

re: #490 unrealizedviewpoint

repost link to utility again please?

[Link: www.pentdego.com...]

497 bellamags  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:21:07pm

PIE CHARTS ON FOX

498 neverquit  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:21:08pm

man, i tell ya, the democratic party has lost it's identity. this surely is not the party that fought Nazi Germany & Imperial Japan.

that was a circus man.

499 tradewind  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:21:13pm

re: #474 MarkX

Not so fast... I think I heard Ickes mutter 'Its On' under his breath after he threatened Denver.
He looked like one vengeful MF.

500 hermeneutics  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:21:19pm

re: #488 Mich-again

THANK YOU. I can't get the video or audio from CSpan -- keeps freezing and then restarting. Now, did Ickes speak out of anger or did it seem like a reasonable comment.

What are the odds that Hillary runs as an Independent ... think: Lieberman.

501 VegasRick  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:21:35pm

re: #491 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Ickes personally said he was advised by Hillary that she would be taking it to the credentials committee. That means a convention floor fight.

Do yourselves a favor. Don't go to Denver. It's gonna be ugly there.

If obambi does not win it is going to be ugly in a lot of places.

502 Mich-again  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:21:38pm

Howie Dean has f*ed this whole thing up royal.

To think, what could have been easier than picking a Dem to win back the Presidency after 8 years of GWB. How do you f* that up so bad?

503 pingjockey  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:21:38pm

c-span obamarama 2052 the beast 1877, with less than 100 left in the 3 primaries.

504 Roentgen  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:21:39pm

re: #481 song_and_dance_man

I just wish B. Hussein would throw himself under the bus

Yikes, my mind won't stop conjuring up the imaginary images!

505 unrealizedviewpoint  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:21:58pm

re: #480 bellamags

maybe o'reilly will realize what a BETTER story the whole Barack leaving the church is and CANCEL scott?

He mostly splits his interviews over two days. He'll find time for both.

506 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:21:59pm

re: #498 neverquit

man, i tell ya, the democratic party has lost it's identity. this surely is not the party that fought Nazi Germany & Imperial Japan.

that was a circus man.

This is simply the literal personification of the race and gender politics that define this party.

507 eaglewingz08  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:22:04pm

Can some of you dem libnuts explain why your highest echaelons at the DNC retreated into closed session for more than three hours without any cameras or public present to hatch a plan to disenfranchise millions of your voters and delegates? The most ethical DNC in history?

508 mitthrawnurdo  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:22:15pm

re: #501 VegasRick

Yeah, but it'd even be uglier for the country at large if Messiah does win.

509 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:22:18pm

re: #500 hermeneutics

THANK YOU. I can't get the video or audio from CSpan -- keeps freezing and then restarting. Now, did Ickes speak out of anger or did it seem like a reasonable comment.

What are the odds that Hillary runs as an Independent ... think: Lieberman.

He seemed the most reasonable of all of them.

510 solomonpanting  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:22:27pm

Denver!

511 EC Marm  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:22:28pm

re: #439 ciaospirit

Isn't it convenient that Obama now gets to blame a whitey as the reason he had to leave his church.


Not only that, but a Catholic whitey. Obama must know that he has a zero chance of getting more than a small portion of the Catholic vote. Based on his history of voting for infanticide and abortion, the Catholic Church is going to come after him with all barrels blazing, if he gets the Dem. nomination. His advisor's may think this is a good game plan, but I guarantee you it won't work in November.

512 unrealizedviewpoint  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:22:38pm

re: #496 NoSubmission

[Link: www.pentdego.com...]

THANKS!

513 hermeneutics  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:22:38pm

re: #501 VegasRick

Yea, but what will happen if Hillary does not win ... will it be ugly? Will the droopy-boobed feminists revolt in style?

514 stevieray  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:22:43pm

I'll bet the church resignation was demanded by the DNC for throwing the delegate decision in Obama's favor.

515 DesertSage  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:22:57pm

All the delegates from Fl. And MI. will be seated, they're just going to worth half as much as the rest of the delegates.

In Lefty world, some people are worth less than others.

516 NY Nana  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:22:58pm

re: #463 EC Marm

Denver! Denver! Denver!

Why did I click this close to dinner? ;) *my eyes, my eyes!*

Hussein will speak live on Fox, etc. from Nebraska, in 10-15 minutes about why he left the 'church'.

517 VegasRick  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:23:03pm

re: #508 mitthrawnurdo

Yeah, but it'd even be uglier for the country at large if Messiah does win.

Agreed.

518 Roentgen  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:23:26pm

re: #485 The Other Les

I've found ads for houses and apartments for rent during the RNC in St. Paul on Craigslist. Check the listing for Denver.

I swear this has nothing to do with any of the hippie-chicks that will be there.

519 tradewind  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:23:41pm

re: #502 Mich-again

They had a boatload to pick from, too. Mark Warner, Evan Bayh, etc.....they could have gotten someone non-flammable, but nooooo.... they had to go for maximum diversity.

520 bellamags  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:23:44pm

re: #505 unrealizedviewpoint

ok. you aren't making me feel any better. lol.

521 elizmr  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:23:54pm

Does this man have any TRUE loyalties? Is there anything this man will NOT do to win the election?

522 AuldTrafford  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:23:58pm

Haven't read the whole thread, so apologies if this point has already been made.

Big problem for Obama, now, is explaining why it took this long to get out (his actually getting out would seem to be proof that the Church's racism is reason to get out). And why get out for the actions of a guest at the Church?

A lot of analysis to be done about this; wonder who will do it?

523 RickZ  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:24:17pm

After this exercize in political expediency, Barry will magically transform himself into the Great White Hope!

524 NY Nana  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:24:17pm

re: #481 song_and_dance_man

I just wish B. Hussein would throw himself under the bus

Maybe he already has. I would love to see President-elect McCain's face just about now...

525 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:24:18pm

re: #519 tradewind

They had a boatload to pick from, too. Mark Warner, Evan Bayh, etc.....they could have gotten someone non-flammable, but nooooo.... they had to go for maximum diversity.

The Democratic Party: race politics at it's finest.

526 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:24:29pm
527 nyc redneck  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:24:38pm

re: #373 ploome hineni

who eats?

obama and the rest of the world are OK w/ that.

528 mitthrawnurdo  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:24:39pm

re: #518 Roentgen

I hope so.

/who wants hippie-STDs?

529 The Other Les  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:25:03pm

re: #518 Roentgen

I swear this has nothing to do with any of the hippie-chicks that will be there.

The first generation of hippie chicks will be in their 60's and 70's.

530 NoSubmission  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:25:05pm

re: #512 unrealizedviewpoint
CAN'T HELP MYSELF!

531 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:25:05pm

re: #528 mitthrawnurdo

I hope so.

/who wants hippie-STDs?

eeeeewwwww

532 MarkX  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:25:08pm

re: #499 tradewind

Not so fast... I think I heard Ickes mutter 'Its On' under his breath after he threatened Denver.
He looked like one vengeful MF.

Agreed, Ickes was pissed. But I don't' think the Clintons have the juice any more.

Games up, PIPS lost.

533 tradewind  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:25:10pm

re: #521 elizmr

Quit smoking.
Although his doc says he's on the gum, so maybe even that.

534 NY Nana  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:25:15pm

re: #515 DesertSage

All the delegates from Fl. And MI. will be seated, they're just going to worth half as much as the rest of the delegates.

In Lefty world, some people are worth less than others.

Nomination for a rotating title!

535 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:25:15pm
536 pingjockey  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:25:26pm

Geraldo is gonna interview the beast, if it is live and she has got the results from the circus it could be entertaining.

537 The Shadow Do  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:25:26pm

I am on the edge of my seat waiting for B(ogus). H. Obama to speak. This will be Gumby delivering the Gettysburg address. That's entertainment!

538 Roentgen  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:25:29pm

re: #526 song_and_dance_man

The DNC should change the name of their Denver shindig to the Democratic National Octagon.

I think you meant pentagram.

539 hermeneutics  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:25:44pm

At least blacks were 3/5 of a vote ... white feminists are 2.5/5 of a vote. I don't call that progress.

540 Mich-again  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:25:47pm

re: #519 tradewind

They had a boatload to pick from, too. Mark Warner, Evan Bayh, etc.....they could have gotten someone non-flammable, but nooooo.... they had to go for maximum diversity.

The problem is to win the DNC nomination, you have to attract the far left. But then to win the General the Democratic Candidate has to move to the center.

541 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:25:47pm

re: #521 elizmr

Uummmm......nope.

542 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:26:08pm

So what mosque is Obama going to go to now?

543 jcm  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:26:09pm

Late to the thread.

There's room for a church under the bus?

544 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:26:16pm

re: #501 VegasRick

If obambi does not win it is going to be ugly in a lot of places.

If it comes to that, I'll be ready.

545 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:26:17pm
546 elizmr  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:26:22pm

re: #484 AuldTrafford


Druge is exceedingly PRO Obama. has anyone noticed?

547 mitthrawnurdo  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:26:23pm

re: #529 The Other Les

True that!

548 The Other Les  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:26:24pm

re: #538 Roentgen

I think you meant pentagram.

The Octagon was a Chuck Norris movie.

549 bellamags  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:26:28pm

I'm sorry. Pie charts on CNN. I am just very confused and tired after all of the yelling and fit throwing.

550 Roentgen  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:26:36pm

re: #543 jcm

Welcome!

551 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:26:44pm

re: #518 Roentgen

I swear this has nothing to do with any of the hippie-chicks that will be there.

They are going to be wound-up tight as a drum anyway at the convention. You wouldn't stand a chance.

552 Pshawalaw  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:26:49pm

re: #125 godfrey

re: #121 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Shades of Malcolm X?


Wow! Sorry to mention assassination, but that is what the Nation of Islam did to X after he left their group. And your mention of Malcolm brought it to mind. Surely, though, these kooks a Trinity won't go there, right? At least I hope not.

553 vagabond trader  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:26:50pm

re: #522 AuldTrafford

Like I said before, methinks that the Obama and his various spiritual advisors are staging all this mock outrage to give him an out. Just the hunch of a cynic, mind you.

554 pingjockey  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:27:00pm

re: #543 jcm
It is a big damn bus.

555 DesertSage  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:27:03pm

re: #524 NY Nana

Maybe he already has. I would love to see President-elect McCain's face just about now...

I can't wait to see George Soros' face when McCain gets elected.
I think his head will explode.

And Susan Sarandon will leave the country! I'm starting to get excited about voting for McCain...lots of god things will happen.

556 neverquit  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:27:21pm

re: #507 eaglewingz08

Can some of you dem libnuts explain why your highest echaelons at the DNC retreated into closed session for more than three hours without any cameras or public present to hatch a plan to disenfranchise millions of your voters and delegates? The most ethical DNC in history?

They should just call that what it is, a meeting of the Politburo.

557 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:27:23pm
558 unrealizedviewpoint  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:27:42pm

re: #521 elizmr

Does this man have any TRUE loyalties? Is there anything this man will NOT do to win the election?

She was reluctant prior, but Michelle finally let Barry bail after the pandering to the congregation racist pig in the priest costume showed up.

559 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:27:48pm

re: #546 elizmr

Druge is exceedingly PRO Obama. has anyone noticed?

He's just very anti-clinton. Always has been. It's how he became what he is.

560 The Other Les  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:27:48pm

re: #547 mitthrawnurdo

True that!

Grace Slick is 68.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

561 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:27:53pm

re: #555 DesertSage

I can't wait to see George Soros' face when McCain gets elected.
I think his head will explode.

And Susan Sarandon will leave the country! I'm starting to get excited about voting for McCain...lots of god things will happen.

Whoa, talk about Freudian slips!

562 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:27:54pm

re: #532 MarkX

Agreed, Ickes was pissed. But I don't' think the Clintons have the juice any more.

Games up, PIPS lost.

Wrong, with the added delegates and Hillary's ridiculously small margin in her favor, Obama is farther away from the nomination than yesterday.

And the dissention that was so evident today is about to spill out on the street. This hasn't even gotten started yet.

563 tradewind  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:28:09pm

re: #532 MarkX

It all comes down to whether Hilldog is obsessed enough to burn the village down in order to save it (in her mind). There are some analysts who think she may just be willing to go that far.
She may lose the nomination, but she can see to it that Obama loses the general election, thus saving the party from a setback that would last several cycles.

564 Roentgen  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:28:24pm

re: #551 astronmr20

Your correct. Perhaps you have experience in trying to get the job done while things are really wound up?

565 pingjockey  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:28:25pm

re: #555 DesertSage
Sarandon won't leave the country. That fucker Baldwin said he was going to leave and he's still here.

566 jcm  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:28:26pm

re: #554 pingjockey

It is a big damn bus.

I think the pot hole in Denver is bigger!

567 Render  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:28:35pm

The Obama campaign just got a new bus and they needed something really big to test it out on.

[Link: www.lilligren.com...]

Apparently they have several different models depending on the size of the item to be thrown under the bus. Here is short version...

Youtube Video

Although the shorter bus may also reflect the noticeably declining number of campaign staffers who have not yet found themselves underneath of the bus rather then inside it.

BRICK
WINDOWS,
R

568 hermeneutics  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:28:40pm

re: #561 goddessoftheclassroom

Whoa, talk about Freudian slips!


I thought he meant it!

569 solomonpanting  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:28:42pm

I wonder want part of "hold early primaries and your votes won't count" Florida and Michigan didn't understand?

570 spacejesus  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:29:09pm

can't wait for obama to make kwanza the new fourth of july

571 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:29:09pm

re: #563 tradewind

It all comes down to whether Hilldog is obsessed enough to burn the village down in order to save it (in her mind). There are some analysts who think she may just be willing to go that far.
She may lose the nomination, but she can see to it that Obama loses the general election, thus saving the party from a setback that would last several cycles.

And swoop in against even older McCain in 2012.

572 DesertSage  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:29:13pm

re: #561 goddessoftheclassroom

Whoa, talk about Freudian slips!

Oops....I just noticed that.

573 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:29:23pm

re: #532 MarkX

To para phrase rambo"NUTHIN IS OVER!"
the clintons are gonna work the undeclared super delegates,and of course there should be some good underhanded shenanigans.gonna be a fun couple of weeks.the clinton character assasination squad should be in full swing by monday.

574 Roentgen  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:29:31pm

re: #564 Roentgen

Your correct. Perhaps you have experience in trying to get the job done while things are really wound up?

You're=your.
PIMF

575 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:30:04pm

re: #564 Roentgen

Your correct. Perhaps you have experience in trying to get the job done while things are really wound up?

Yes, and failing miserably. Lesson learned.

You have to get them while they are celebrating.. i.e. after their candidate wins, whomever that may be.

576 AuldTrafford  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:30:07pm

re: #546 elizmr

Druge is exceedingly PRO Obama. has anyone noticed?

I had not noticed, but a story is a story; surely he can recognize this one. Breibart had it almost immediately. He may not be pro-Obama, but business is business?

577 pingjockey  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:30:13pm

re: #566 jcm
Ha! That is a big hole. Have to be the size of a copper mine.

578 unrealizedviewpoint  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:30:54pm

re: #543 jcm

Late to the thread.

There's room for a church under the bus?

I'd love to hear McCain say that:

Is there's room for a church under that bus?
579 NY Nana  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:31:06pm

re: #484 AuldTrafford


Finally does...,

580 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:31:19pm

re: #569 solomonpanting

I wonder want part of "hold early primaries and your votes won't count" Florida and Michigan didn't understand?

It's much more complicated than that. And that's not fortunate for that party.

581 hermeneutics  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:31:19pm

re: #575 astronmr20

Yes, and failing miserably. Lesson learned.

You have to get them while they are celebrating.. i.e. after their candidate wins, whomever that may be.

You can do better!

582 Cap'n DOC  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:31:38pm

Hmmmm. He's no longer a mohammedan and no longer even (nominally) Christian, right? Heh. Abandons an immoral compass for a (nominally) Christian one, so now he tosses religion under the bus.

I'm sorry. Just more talking points to raise with those feisty BHO supporters.

583 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:31:40pm

re: #578 unrealizedviewpoint

Unfortunately, the old man's taking the "gentlemanly" road in the church flap.

584 wrenchwench  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:31:44pm

The chickens have come home to roost, and Obama has egg on his face.

/they're gonna be angry chickens...

585 unrealizedviewpoint  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:32:03pm

re: #576 AuldTrafford

I had not noticed, but a story is a story; surely he can recognize this one. Breibart had it almost immediately. He may not be pro-Obama, but business is business?

Drudge is napping! It's the middle of the slowest news day of the week.

586 Mich-again  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:32:03pm

The smartest thing they could have done is give Hillary everything she asked for. She still wouldn't have a chance and it would have defused her campaign completely. Now its going to Denver.

587 ishabibble  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:32:10pm

re: #30 Just_A_Grunt

Too little, too late. You can't flush 20 years of participation in the church down the drain and walk away from it. There is no doubt the philosophy, teachings, and impact of what he learned sitting in those pews and associating with that crowd will forever taint him and his thinking.
I can't throw away 20 years of military service as if it didn't happen and he can't just walk away from this either, especially since it was during a phase of his life, from age 20 something to present, which forms our character.

Barry's got all of this covered by his magic word: distraction.
OK now, everybody back to hopenchange!

588 AuldTrafford  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:32:27pm

re: #553 vagabond trader

Like I said before, methinks that the Obama and his various spiritual advisors are staging all this mock outrage to give him an out. Just the hunch of a cynic, mind you.

I agree, but it doesn't solve the basic problem that Pfleger didn't really change anything that's been in Obama's face for weeks now. If he should act (which he apparently admits now because he has acted), what took so long?

589 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:32:33pm

re: #581 hermeneutics

You can do better!

I have, and I do (:

Found one that's not a moonbat, but full of fire nonetheless. (:

590 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:32:37pm

re: #572 DesertSage

Oops....I just noticed that.

No, no, I'm not criticizing--I just think it's a cool typo!

591 unrealizedviewpoint  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:32:52pm

re: #583 astronmr20

Unfortunately, the old man's taking the "gentlemanly" road in the church flap.

I predict the politician will emerge from this statesman.

592 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:33:10pm
593 godfrey  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:33:13pm

How much of this is Dean's fault?

594 Bobblehead  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:33:15pm

The wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round, round and round.......

595 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:33:29pm

re: #587 ishabibble

Barry's got all of this covered by his magic word: distraction.
OK now, everybody back to hopenchange!

LOL

"hopenchange"

Sounds Swedish.

596 Mich-again  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:33:36pm

Thats the problem with creating monsters. Eventually angry villagers show up at your door carrying torches and pitchforks.

597 Cap'n DOC  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:34:10pm

re: #555 DesertSage

lots of god things will happen.

I have to think that was by accident...

598 republic  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:34:11pm

How long will it take before Barack Hussein Obama throws America and the U.S. Constitution under the bus?

599 Charles  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:34:15pm

re: #584 wrenchwench

The chickens have come home to roost, and Obama has egg on his face.

/they're gonna be angry chickens...

The chickens are roosting on Obama's ears.

600 vagabond trader  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:34:17pm

re: #588 AuldTrafford

Bitterly clinging to his religion?

601 Mich-again  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:34:21pm

Make room under the bus for Michigan and Florida Democrats!

602 thor  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:34:22pm

I guess Barry is going to disown his grandmother next according to his logic.

"I can no more disown him [Rev. Wright] than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother -- a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe."

Source: [Link: www.cnn.com...]

603 Blitherakt  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:34:30pm

re: #595 astronmr20

LOL

"hopenchange"

Sounds Swedish.

hopenchange.com is available. :)

604 callahan23  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:34:44pm

re: #467 NoSubmission

Try this

605 Charles  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:34:46pm

Speech from Obama coming up in about five minutes.

606 hermeneutics  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:34:52pm

re: #589 astronmr20

Congrats! Enjoy life.

607 unrealizedviewpoint  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:34:53pm

re: #570 spacejesus

That's an unwelcome racists comment.

608 mama winger  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:34:55pm

This is the beginning of the transformation of Obama. He will resign his church, drift around in soulfulness, make some noise about his spiritual search, make an issue about re-evaluating his faith and what place it has in his life ------

and voila - after he is elected he will suddenly 'discover' that in his search for God, he has found a place in islam, the religion of peace.

He will rediscover his roots, and will be celebrated for his brave venture into African diversity. People will be boxed in, prohibited from making 'racist' remarks about his faith.

Roots in the White House. a TV movie.

609 Ma Sands  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:35:02pm

[Shucks.....passed me by.....all I get is some lovely, light, sunshiny rain --and a double rainbow! :)

610 jamgarr  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:35:09pm

A CNN talking-head (Hillary supporter) just played the "rush to judgment" card! Priceless!

611 solomonpanting  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:35:12pm

re: #580 really grumpy big dog Johnson

It's much more complicated than that. And that's not fortunate for that party.

Yes, but then why have rules that won't be enforced? I agree, the Dems have the genesis of a perfect storm come August.

612 NoSubmission  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:35:15pm

So I guess all those churchgoers are just going to vote for Hillary now?

613 Bobblehead  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:35:16pm

re: #599 Charles

That deserves a photoshop.

614 godfrey  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:35:17pm
"I don't think the party is going to implode," Dean said

CNN

615 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:35:22pm

re: #605 Charles

Speech from Obama coming up in about five minutes.

Damn going to have to put off dinner even longer!

616 pingjockey  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:35:29pm

Some twit on Fox saying all the shit spewed by Trinity church is just cause they're not used to being in the spotlight. So, how bad was it when no cameras were present?

617 Cap'n DOC  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:35:30pm

re: #599 Charles

A Top Ten candidate for sure.

618 MarkX  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:35:30pm

re: #563 tradewind

It all comes down to whether Hilldog is obsessed enough to burn the village down in order to save it (in her mind). There are some analysts who think she may just be willing to go that far.
She may lose the nomination, but she can see to it that Obama loses the general election, thus saving the party from a setback that would last several cycles.


Oh, I agree, she'll 'burn the village down'.

If she loses the nomination, then she has to see to it that Obama loses. If Obama wins, then he'll have a good chance to win in '12, and set-up his VP for a run in '16.

If she loses, she make sure Obambi will too.

/IMO, your's may vary

619 The Shadow Do  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:35:31pm

We'll know he's toast, given his sudden separation from his long time spiritual roots, when he seeks an audience with Franklin Graham. LOL

620 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:35:32pm

re: #609 Ma Sands

[Shucks.....passed me by.....all I get is some lovely, light, sunshiny rain --and a double rainbow! :)

Praise be! :)

621 jcm  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:35:33pm

re: #593 godfrey

How much of this is Dean's fault?

Dean's been trying to toss HRC off the bus for some time.

622 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:35:47pm

Here is a new Obama poster.

623 _RememberTonyC  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:35:56pm

breaking news: obama's new house of worship:

[Link: www.icofa.com...]

624 The Other Les  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:36:18pm

re: #605 Charles

Speech from Obama coming up in about five minutes.

I'd rather watch reruns of Lawrence Welk.

625 gmsc  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:36:20pm

Some choice paranoid observations from FARK.com on this matter:

1:

See?!?! I knew he was a Moslem, this proves it, he quit church!

/You know this will be on fox spun this way.


2:

You Americans suck. You have a country dealing with various critical issues that affect your future, and the future of your children, and you are more interested in which church a candidate is/is not a part of.

The American People are responsible for the crimes of America and are responsible for the crimes of President Bush and the rest of the US Government.

/ashamed to be American.
//You people disgust me.

626 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:36:22pm

re: #622 NJDhockeyfan

Here is a new Obama poster.

I likes.

627 jcm  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:36:24pm

re: #614 godfrey

CNN

Nope just explode!
BAWHAHAHAHA!

628 Ma Sands  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:36:39pm

re: #608 mama winger

Oh, mama. Such a picture you have painted. But it is all too plausible.

629 MarkX  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:36:42pm

re: #598 republic

About 8 months.

630 republic  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:36:45pm

I'm sure that "Rev" Wright will now be out on the circuit with a "tell all" about Obama and his beliefs.

631 mama winger  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:36:59pm

The fix is in. The DNC told him, "lose the wacky church and we'll make sure you get the delegates you need."

632 jcm  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:37:07pm

re: #622 NJDhockeyfan

Here is a new Obama poster.

ROFL!

633 The Other Les  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:37:08pm

re: #608 mama winger

This is the beginning of the transformation of Obama. He will resign his church, drift around in soulfulness, make some noise about his spiritual search, make an issue about re-evaluating his faith and what place it has in his life ------

and voila - after he is elected he will suddenly 'discover' that in his search for God, he has found a place in islam, the religion of peace.

He will rediscover his roots, and will be celebrated for his brave venture into African diversity. People will be boxed in, prohibited from making 'racist' remarks about his faith.

Roots in the White House. a TV movie.

And I was hoping he would try Scientology and join the Sea Org.

634 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:37:11pm

re: #630 republic

I'm sure that "Rev" Wright will now be out on the circuit with a "tell all" about Obama and his beliefs.

Hopefully before the election.

635 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:37:16pm

re: #586 Mich-again

The smartest thing they could have done is give Hillary everything she asked for. She still wouldn't have a chance and it would have defused her campaign completely. Now its going to Denver.

I agree completely. Now the Dems have zero chance of carrying either Michigan or Florida, and since we already know that Obama doesn't do well in larger less homogenous states, it basically hoses any chance he had to win this election.

636 mean Gene  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:37:18pm

Like this is going to work!
What'll he say, "now let's move on?"

637 hermeneutics  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:37:22pm

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

THe NYT makes it sound as if unity is just a few days away. Hopefully, this is a combo of projection and wish-fulfillment.

638 Blitherakt  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:37:24pm

re: #618 MarkX

If she loses the nomination, then she has to see to it that Obama loses...

I wonder if she'd reach across the aisle (not that it's that far, really) and see if McCain would have her for veep?

I doubt it, but it'd be interesting.

639 NoSubmission  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:37:28pm

re: #630 republic

I'm sure that "Rev" Wright will now be out on the circuit with a "tell all" about Obama and his beliefs.


Wright will be on his book tour. Poor Obama! LOL

640 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:37:29pm

re: #631 mama winger

The fix is in. The DNC told him, "lose the wacky church and we'll make sure you get the delegates you need."

That's what I think, too. Or he made the offer to them.

641 unrealizedviewpoint  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:37:31pm

re: #622 NJDhockeyfan

Here is a new Obama poster.

Best one so far!

642 quickjustice  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:37:44pm

Usually you release bad political news late Friday so it hits the media vacuum on Saturday. The real test will be how much coverage this gets in the Sunday papers and news shows.

Any speculation on which church he'll choose next? The Episcopal Church across the street from the White House, anyone? ;-)

643 HelloDare  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:37:52pm

Obama's speech will be on CNN's website if you don't have cable or TV.

644 wrenchwench  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:37:52pm

re: #599 Charles

The chickens are roosting on Obama's ears.

ewww---maybe that's not egg....

645 Mich-again  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:37:54pm

re: #625 gmsc

/ashamed to be American.
//You people disgust me.

Doesn't that dummy know if you want to get off the bus you have to pull the cord?

646 mama winger  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:38:10pm

re: #628 Ma Sands

Oh, mama. Such a picture you have painted. But it is all too plausible.

Glad to see the tornado skipped over you Ma.

647 nyc redneck  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:38:15pm

re: #489 astronmr20

We are witnessing the meltdown of the Democratic party. Live.

couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch.

648 Blitherakt  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:38:23pm

re: #625 gmsc

Some choice paranoid observations from FARK.com on this matter:

I had replied to #2 on that list with an offer of a one way plane ticket... No replies as of yet.

649 The Other Les  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:38:26pm

re: #618 MarkX

It takes a Viking to raze a village.

650 godfrey  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:38:27pm

This calls for a Manhattan.

651 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:38:30pm

re: #645 Mich-again

Doesn't that dummy know if you want to get off the bus you have to pull the cord?

That's for the parachute, but don't tell him that.

652 AuldTrafford  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:38:34pm

re: #599 Charles

The chickens are roosting on Obama's ears.

Get out the PhotoShop ...

653 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:38:58pm
654 sngnsgt  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:39:05pm

Roosted Chicken for dinner tonight again?

655 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:39:05pm

re: #648 Blitherakt

I had replied to #2 on that list with an offer of a one way plane ticket... No replies as of yet.

I'll chip in. Have tons of airline miles at my disposal.

656 NoSubmission  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:39:14pm

re: #641 unrealizedviewpoint

Best one so far!

They're all good.

657 Logic  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:39:25pm

"I HOPE they CHANGE the subject now." - BHO

658 hermeneutics  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:39:30pm

re: #649 The Other Les

Hey ... I'm a Viking. Watch out!

659 jcm  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:39:38pm

TUCC was a tool. In the Alinsky model of organizing a church is used gained to credibility in the neighborhood. It is only used as long as useful, no longer. For 20 years, TUCC help BHO build up to this moment. Now it is a greater hinderance than help.

660 sattv4u2  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:39:46pm

re: #593 godfrey

How much of this is Dean's fault?

100% As charman of the DNC, it's his job not only to get $$$$$$ for the party, but to make sure everything runs smoothly.

WAY TO GO, HOWARD,,,, You sure know how to take charge/ control.

661 greenmiler  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:39:49pm

there he goes again

662 jamgarr  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:39:59pm

Charles - Please give us a TUCC thread.

663 Blitherakt  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:40:26pm

re: #655 astronmr20

I'll chip in. Have tons of airline miles at my disposal.

All he had to do was renounce his citizenship, give me his passport and allow me to do a gate escort and I'd get a ticket anywhere he wanted...

664 MarkX  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:40:31pm

re: #649 The Other Les

...and the fat lady hasn't sung yet!

665 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:40:46pm
666 sattv4u2  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:41:04pm

re: #605 Charles

Speech from Obama coming up in about five minutes.

If you're watching it on CNN, I can personnaly mes it up. I'm at work and we're taking it off of satellite and fibering it to CNN!

Just say the word, King Lizard !

667 DistantThunder  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:41:15pm

Trinty church issues a statement sending the Obama's on to Christ in his work. They were praying over this decision with their pastor.

668 bellamags  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:41:37pm

Is the chick on Fox playing devils advocate or is she in the tank as well?

669 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:41:48pm

Looks like CNN's feed for the obama conference is a bit flooded...

670 mama winger  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:42:07pm

It's interesting to me that the DNC chose today to do some 'scheduled maintenance' on it's blog. In my 4 years of monitoring that blog, never once have I seen them do ANY maintenance on it. Not once.

And today - with the fight in the Rules committee - they choose to tinker. Interesting, eh?

The party of the people my shiny white hoo-ha.

671 HelloDare  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:42:15pm

There's a big CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN poster on the podium Obama will be speaking from. Ha. What a doofus.

672 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:42:26pm

Live feed for Obama's speech on CNN

673 coquimbojoe  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:42:36pm

re: #659 jcm

TUCC was a tool. In the Alinsky model of organizing a church is used gained to credibility in the neighborhood. It is only used as long as useful, no longer. For 20 years, TUCC help BHO build up to this moment. Now it is a greater hinderance than help.

Zactly! Have a good rest of the afternoon sir, I am checking out for a while.

(BTW: CHARLES, great new features! Thanks for all the work!)

674 jamgarr  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:42:49pm

re: #670 mama winger

It's interesting to me that the DNC chose today to do some 'scheduled maintenance' on it's blog. In my 4 years of monitoring that blog, never once have I seen them do ANY maintenance on it. Not once.

And today - with the fight in the Rules committee - they choose to tinker. Interesting, eh?

The party of the people my shiny white hoo-ha.


Nice catch.

675 NY Nana  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:43:00pm

re: #555 DesertSage

I can't wait to see George Soros' face when McCain gets elected.
I think his head will explode.

And Susan Sarandon will leave the country! I'm starting to get excited about voting for McCain...lots of god things will happen.

Sage,

I would pay to see it live.

And Sarandon will take loads of useless 'celebrities' with her! ;)

McCain is the only quote>choice in this election, and I am afraid that Republicans will stay home, and not vote...G-d forbid.

676 sattv4u2  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:43:02pm

re: #672 Killgore Trout

Live feed for Obama's speech on CNN

see my #666 (is that an omen, or what? I can REALLY be a DEVIL ! )

677 Blitherakt  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:43:04pm

re: #666 sattv4u2

If you're watching it on CNN, I can personnaly mes it up. I'm at work and we're taking it off of satellite and fibering it to CNN!

Just say the word, King Lizard !

How about playing some song over the top of it? "I Shot the Sherrif" or "Tell Me Lies", perhaps?

678 hermeneutics  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:43:11pm

When Obama speaks, could someone give a running commentary for those of us without access to tv or radio. Pretty please?

679 itellu3times  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:43:12pm

re: #11 reno911

Wake me when BHO resigns from the race.

OK, he's white now.

680 Killgore Trout  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:43:13pm

The podium says, "Change".
/heh

681 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:43:19pm

Got it.. Obama's speech coming up momentarily.

682 The Other Les  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:43:36pm

re: #671 HelloDare

There's a big CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN poster on the podium Obama will be speaking from. Ha. What a doofus.

They stopped minting the change I could believe in back in 1964.

683 mikeymom  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:43:38pm

re: #650 godfrey

actually, i just had one--this may call for a second--hic!

684 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:43:39pm

Lol the sign on the podium says "Change."

685 Mich-again  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:43:39pm

re: #635 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Now the Dems have zero chance of carrying either Michigan or Florida, and since we already know that Obama doesn't do well in larger less homogenous states, it basically hoses any chance he had to win this election.

Don't try explaining Chess strategy to people who only play Checkers.

686 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:43:53pm

re: #625 gmsc

reply to:deuchebag
subject:your lil screed
responce:misson acomplished.

687 coquimbojoe  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:44:00pm

re: #670 mama winger

my shiny white hoo-ha

Rotating title?

688 sattv4u2  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:44:03pm

re: #677 Blitherakt

How about playing some song over the top of it? "I Shot the Sherrif" or "Tell Me Lies", perhaps?

I could do that,, or better still, when Barak starts talking, I could inject a Dumbo voice over !

689 elizmr  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:44:10pm

re: #559 astronmr20

Good to know. I am concerned about what damage he'll do in the general election.

690 hermeneutics  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:44:18pm

CNN's feed is overwhelmed. Still need commentary here.

691 The Other Les  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:44:32pm

re: #680 Killgore Trout

The podium says, "Change".
/heh

That's a drink? Right?

692 republic  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:44:41pm

It really does show B. Hussein's arrogance, and the fact that he has lived in some anti-American/Marxist bubble for quite some time.

If Obama would have distanced himself from that "church" and other various communist/anti-Americans several years ago, Hillary would have been out of the picture months ago.

"Operation Chaos" certainly has been a brilliant tactic thus far.

20+ years of Satanic teachings isn't going to leave Obama for some time, maybe never.

693 itellu3times  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:44:49pm

Golly, but this thread is flying!

694 Cap'n DOC  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:44:52pm

re: #672 Killgore Trout

Thanks, Killgore, but my pipe ain't big enough for that...

695 mikeymom  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:45:04pm

re: #654 sngnsgt

hubbys making lemon piccata chicken as we speak--and i live 40 mi no of denver--want some?

696 Blitherakt  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:45:16pm

re: #688 sattv4u2

I could do that,, or better still, when Barak starts talking, I could inject a Dumbo voice over !

How about doing something like they did to Condi live?

697 Killian Bundy  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:45:21pm

Obama resigns from Trinity United Church of Christ

/the Kiddies try and figure it all out

698 sngnsgt  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:45:21pm

'Change' is what you'll have in your pocket if Obama is elected.

699 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:45:23pm

re: #690 hermeneutics

Try it now..

700 mama winger  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:45:31pm

re: #687 coquimbojoe

my shiny white hoo-ha

Rotating title?

Oh how embarassing would that be ? lol

701 DistantThunder  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:45:32pm

Obama is 50% white, 44% arab, and 6% white - and 100% panderer.

702 sattv4u2  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:45:33pm

The question is, Will Obama walk or float in ?

703 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:45:54pm

1 minute

704 HelloDare  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:45:55pm

If he had a sense of humor he'd walk out wearing a yarmulka.

705 MarkX  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:46:01pm

re: #690 hermeneutics

CNN's feed is overwhelmed. Still need commentary here.

blah... blah... change!.... blah... blah... hope!...blah... blah...get out of Iraq!

(standing ovation)

The End.

706 bellamags  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:46:03pm

re: #701 DistantThunder

he he he he

707 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:46:17pm

re: #702 sattv4u2

The question is, Will Obama walk or float in ?

Coming on on C-band or KU?

708 NoSubmission  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:46:38pm

the feed didn't work for me. have the tv on and obama isn't on yet.

709 DistantThunder  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:46:40pm

Democrats in Michigan and Florida need to consider joining the Republican party where we don't play fast and loose with the traditions and rules of democracy.

710 stevieray  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:46:41pm

re: #631 mama winger

The fix is in. The DNC told him, "lose the wacky church and we'll make sure you get the delegates you need."

Yep! gmta! [see #514]

711 mean Gene  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:46:42pm

In other news:
Hillary won 1/2 the delegates from FLA and MICH.

712 sattv4u2  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:46:49pm

re: #707 astronmr20

Coming on on C-band or KU?

We're takintg it off of GAL26K-16 slot 3

713 republic  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:46:51pm

re: #660 sattv4u2

100% As charman of the DNC, it's his job not only to get $$$$$$ for the party, but to make sure everything runs smoothly.

WAY TO GO, HOWARD,,,, You sure know how to take charge/ control.

AAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG GGGG

Isn't the man a doctor, certainly he could prescribe himself the proper meds.

714 HelloDare  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:46:52pm

Wonder if Michelle is proud right now?

715 hermeneutics  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:46:53pm

re: #699 astronmr20

Still blank, but I'm trying. Thanks.

716 NoSubmission  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:46:58pm

He's going to play victim.

717 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:46:59pm

audio switched to podium

718 VegasRick  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:47:15pm

re: #701 DistantThunder

Obama is 50% white, 44% arab, and 6% white - and 100% panderer.

Ummmm.

719 itellu3times  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:47:18pm

Next, he resigns from the party, runs on the Obama/Oprah ticket.

Hillary, in gratitude, forms the Rodham/Olbermann ticket.

720 MarkX  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:47:39pm

Ok, what's the word we drink to during the speech?

721 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:47:51pm

5...4...3...2...

722 DistantThunder  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:47:51pm

re: #701 DistantThunder

Obama is 50% white, 44% arab, and 6% white - and 100% panderer.

Try again - Obama is 50% white, 44% arab, and 6% black - and 100% panderer.

723 Bobblehead  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:47:55pm

Hot off the poster press

724 hermeneutics  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:47:56pm

re: #720 MarkX

Hemlock.

725 Sharmuta  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:48:15pm

re: #720 MarkX

Ok, what's the word we drink to during the speech?

"I"?

/he's a narcissist, after all

726 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:48:16pm

re: #720 MarkX

Ok, what's the word we drink to during the speech?

"dissappointed."

I have a corona light here... not much to get drunk off of.

727 sattv4u2  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:48:24pm

Where did they get those wooden backed chairs from,,, a 2nd grade classroom? they are TINY !

728 jamgarr  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:48:26pm

re: #720 MarkX

Ok, what's the word we drink to during the speech?

Biotch?

729 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:48:28pm

re: #725 Sharmuta

"I"?

/he's a narcissist, after all

Ah!

730 Mich-again  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:48:29pm

Wolf Blitzer wants to know how serious HRC's threat to take the fight to the credentials committee is. Wolfie. What in her history gives you any reason to think she will just roll over and play dead?

731 mama winger  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:48:42pm

re: #720 MarkX

Ok, what's the word we drink to during the speech?

faith

732 Blitherakt  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:48:49pm

I've got the perfect song to play over it now:

R.E.M. -- Losing My Religion
733 The Other Les  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:48:54pm

Get a load of this!

[Link: dirtyharrysplace.com...]

734 mikeymom  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:48:57pm

re: #720 MarkX

we need a special word to drink? i didn't get that memo

735 DistantThunder  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:49:04pm

re: #730 Mich-again

Wolf Blitzer wants to know how serious HRC's threat to take the fight to the credentials committee is. Wolfie. What in her history gives you any reason to think she will just roll over and play dead?

dead serious

736 neverquit  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:49:07pm

For me, this is somewhat comical, tragic, ironic and inevitable.

This is the beginning of the end, of one of the key traditions that helped build this country.

Read Below:

Central Committee

The Central Committee was one of the central institutions in the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (CPSU), along with the Politburo, Secretariat, party congress, Central Auditing Commission, and Party Control Committee. Given the political system's centralist, monolithic aspirations, these central institutions bore heavy responsibilities. One of the Central Committee's main functions was to elect all Party leaders, including members of the Politburo and Secretaries of the Central Committee. The Committee - whose members included powerful people in the Communist Party - met every six months in plenary session to approve decisions by the top levels of the party.

The Central Committee was also considered to be the highest organ of the party between congresses (the period known as the sozyv). According to the party rules (Ustav), the Central Committee was supposed to "direct all the activities of the party and the local party organs, carry out the recruitment and the assignment of leading cadres, direct the work of the central governmental and social organizations of the workers, create various organs, institutions, and enterprises of the party and supervise their activities, name the editorial staff of central newspapers and journals working under its auspices, disburse funds of the party budget and verify their accounting."

However, the Central Committee was large; in 1989, for example, it consisted of more than three hundred members. In actuality then, there were two Central Committees. One of them was the body of elected representatives of the Communist Party. The other was the name used in documents produced for and by any number of smaller Central Committee bodies, from the Politburo to the temporary commissions. Thus, the decrees of the Central Committee were seldom prepared by that body. Instead, the Politburo often initiated, discussed, and finalized them.

737 akak  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:49:11pm

It's 3am Hillary & North Korea Navy fishing boats are firing ship to ship missiles............oh and they are not planning to give up the plutonium.

[Link: www.itar-tass.com...]

[Link: www.koreaherald.co.kr...]

738 sngnsgt  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:49:12pm

re: #695 mikeymom

I'd love some, got steaks out for grillin tonight too!

739 MarkX  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:49:14pm

re: #725 Sharmuta

"I"?

No way. I'll be drunk at the end of the 1st paragraph.

740 bellamags  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:49:25pm

do comments ever get to 1,000?

741 sattv4u2  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:49:34pm

re: #735 DistantThunder

dead serious

just ask Vince Foster ,,,, oh ,, wait ,, damn ,, we can't !

742 DesertSage  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:49:47pm

re: #702 sattv4u2

The question is, Will Obama walk or float in ?

Will there be a green halo around his head?
Will a tingle run up Chris Matthews leg?

743 mama winger  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:49:54pm

re: #740 bellamags

do comments ever get to 1,000?

oh yeah

744 Sharmuta  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:49:55pm

re: #739 MarkX

No way. I'll be drunk at the end of the 1st paragraph.

Sorry- thought that was the point. ;)

745 sattv4u2  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:50:01pm

re: #740 bellamags

do comments ever get to 1,000?

many times

746 The Other Les  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:50:04pm

re: #709 DistantThunder

Democrats in Michigan and Florida need to consider joining the Republican party where we don't play fast and loose with the traditions and rules of democracy.

We stick with the rules no matter how badly it turns out for us.

747 WhiteRasta  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:50:05pm

re: #718 VegasRick

He is half white, half black and half wit...

748 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:50:11pm

re: #738 sngnsgt

I'd love some, got steaks out for grillin tonight too!

Was just about to go pick up some meat of some sort.. but glued to the webcast right now until then...

749 hermeneutics  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:50:15pm

re: #734 mikeymom

Hey Mikeymom, I'll know in a week or two if I'm moving to Denver. We'll be neighbors ... maybe.

750 Ma Sands  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:50:21pm

re: #740 bellamags

Yes, you get a prize if you get the very one. :)

751 MarkX  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:50:23pm

re: #744 Sharmuta

Yeah, but not so fast.

752 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:50:23pm

re: #740 bellamags

do comments ever get to 1,000?

Yup.

753 pingjockey  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:50:23pm

re: #697 Killian Bundy

The comments are a riot.

754 HelloDare  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:50:28pm

re: #722 DistantThunder

Try again - Obama is 50% white, 44% arab, and 6% black - and 100% panderer.

Obama is 49% white, 34% arab, and 6% black - and 11% ears.

755 DesertSage  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:50:30pm

re: #740 bellamags

do comments ever get to 1,000?

Have you ever seen a evolution thread?

756 NoSubmission  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:50:32pm

I just can't get over the circus that his Obama's universe. Repulsive to witness.

757 Bobblehead  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:50:35pm

re: #743 mama winger

Who's the cute pooch?

758 MrArchieBunker  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:50:36pm

Thanks Killgore....the anointed one sure it taking his time.

759 DistantThunder  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:50:40pm

Hillary is the uber-cockroach politician.

760 sattv4u2  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:50:43pm

re: #740 bellamags

re: #745 sattv4u2

many times

ESPECIALLY when Charles is out doing whatever the King does

761 Mich-again  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:50:50pm

re: #740 bellamags

do comments ever get to 1,000?

Heck yeah. And if you get the 1,000 post, you get a nice bonus in your monthly Lizard stipend.

762 callahan23  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:50:58pm

re: #732 Blitherakt

Right on!

763 The Shadow Do  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:51:00pm

re: #716 NoSubmission

He's going to play victim.

No doubt. What other options are there? Ignorant? Certainly not simpatico, no?

764 MarkX  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:51:08pm

re: #759 DistantThunder

Quit insulting cockroaches.

765 Ma Sands  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:51:15pm

re: #755 DesertSage

("an" if the following word begins with a vowel..... :)

766 VegasRick  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:51:20pm

re: #747 WhiteRasta

He is half white, half black and half wit...

And an asswhole.

767 DockScience  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:51:21pm

wow...

even Robert Byrd quit the KKK faster than Obama left his racist organization.

768 The Other Les  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:51:32pm

re: #724 hermeneutics

Hemlock.

I'm sticking to root beer.

769 bellamags  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:51:35pm

re: #755 DesertSage

nope. i'm kinda a light user.

770 DistantThunder  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:51:45pm

re: #756 NoSubmission

I just can't get over the circus that his Obama's universe. Repulsive to witness.

Swimming in a pool of communist sharks...

771 hermeneutics  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:51:58pm

re: #768 The Other Les

You must be an optimist!

772 pingjockey  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:52:00pm

re: #740 bellamags
All the time.

773 mama winger  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:52:03pm

re: #757 Bobblehead

Who's the cute pooch?

My new pound puppy, Cubbie. I adopted him a couple of weeks ago after my beloved greyhound died of bone cancer. I was inconsolable, until I walked into the Humane Society and .......

he is part poodle, part cocker, and part Irish Setter. :)

I am in love.

774 PloniAlmoni  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:52:04pm

re: #338 The Other Les
I wouldn't expect anything less.

775 MarkX  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:52:38pm

Oh... sh*t, Whore-raldo Rivera is on FOX

776 Blitherakt  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:52:41pm

re: #770 DistantThunder

Swimming in a pool of communist sharks...

They all wait patiently in line for their ration of the swimmer?

777 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:52:50pm

re: #773 mama winger

My new pound puppy, Cubbie. I adopted him a couple of weeks ago after my beloved greyhound died of bone cancer. I was inconsolable, until I walked into the Humane Society and .......

he is part poodle, part cocker, and part Irish Setter. :)

I am in love.

Wow.. part irish setter? ?

I grew up with one.. we got her when I was one and she died when I was 15.

778 DistantThunder  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:52:56pm

re: #764 MarkX

Quit insulting cockroaches.

I admire their hard to kill quality

779 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:53:03pm

re: #765 Ma Sands

("an" if the following word begins with a vowel..... :)

Please forgive my being picky, but strictly speaking, "an" is used before a vowel sound, not just a vowel. For example, most people say, "an hour" but "a united front." That's also when "the" is pronounced "thee."

780 Killian Bundy  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:53:07pm

re: #740 bellamags

do comments ever get to 1,000?

/5145

781 jelo  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:53:19pm

does this mean the the rev pfleger gets protection from the nation of islam as rev wright did?

782 hermeneutics  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:53:25pm

I just got the CNN feed. So happy. Two people got up and walked out -- both very young. This looks more like one of my college classes than a press conference, except for the grey-hair in the front row.

783 WhiteRasta  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:53:38pm

re: #766 VegasRick

Never the less, nice to see the Dems do a kinda "Suicide Bombing" on themselves...

784 DesertSage  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:53:42pm

re: #765 Ma Sands

("an" if the following word begins with a vowel..... :)

Thanks Ma. I'm usually quite good with my diction...but I did make that God/good mistake up thread.
:')

785 NoSubmission  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:53:46pm

re: #770 DistantThunder

I just can't get over the circus that his Obama's universe. Repulsive to witness.


Swimming in a pool of communist sharks...

anti-america, commies, racists, terrorists, anti-semites.

786 Ma Sands  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:53:51pm

re: #777 astronmr20

Sigh....right at the age when your heart can be most rended..... ):

787 Bobblehead  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:53:55pm

re: #773 mama winger

He looks so soft and cuddly.

788 kansas  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:54:08pm

Waiting for Obama to speak on leaving the church. Bumper sticker on podium "Change We Can Believe In". What the fuck does that mean anyway. Think I'll "Change The Channel". Believe that.

789 RedSoxNation  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:54:12pm

When does his grandmother get the notice of being disavowed?

790 mama winger  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:54:16pm

re: #777 astronmr20

Wow.. part irish setter? ?

I grew up with one.. we got her when I was one and she died when I was 15.

Yes - I had a DNA test run on him because I could not figure him out. Isn't he a cute little mop? So charming too - must be the Irish in him :)

791 bellamags  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:54:18pm

re: #773 mama winger

that is so cool you adopted a pup. i love dogs soooooo much. i have three babies myself. if i ever get rich i am going to build a safe animal shelter.

792 The Other Les  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:54:21pm

re: #759 DistantThunder

Hillary is the uber-cockroach politician.

Varmint has another opinion on the nature of the Beast.

[Link: www.attackcartoons.com...]

793 mean Gene  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:54:24pm

Is anyone who talks about his OLD ex-church after today a racist?

794 debutaunt  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:54:27pm

I imagine the delay is due to the difficulty Obama is having trying to explain all this to his kids.

795 DistantThunder  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:54:37pm

Geraldo -

Why is Obama doing so badly in Puerto Rico? One month after the government official in charge of the campaign in PR endorses Obama, she is indicted on 19 counts of corruption.

796 Ma Sands  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:54:40pm

re: #779 goddessoftheclassroom

Oh! I never heard that before. Thanks for the lesson. :)

797 republic  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:54:42pm

Obama is a calculated liar, pure and simple, nothing more, nothing less.

798 VegasRick  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:54:55pm

re: #783 WhiteRasta

Never the less, nice to see the Dems do a kinda "Suicide Bombing" on themselves...

What a day to be at work and no speakers on my computer.

799 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:54:56pm

re: #790 mama winger

Yes - I had a DNA test run on him because I could not figure him out. Isn't he a cute little mop? So charming too - must be the Irish in him :)

I guess that explains the bit of red..

800 NoSubmission  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:54:59pm

re: #787 Bobblehead

He looks so soft and cuddly.

YEP.

801 sattv4u2  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:55:00pm

re: #782 hermeneutics

I just got the CNN feed. So happy. Two people got up and walked out -- both very young. This looks more like one of my college classes than a press conference, except for the grey-hair in the front row.

professional student. He's been taking college classes since 1962. Some day, he hopes to get enough credits to graduate with a degree in "Womens Studies"

802 The Other Les  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:55:03pm

re: #766 VegasRick

And an asswhole.

A whole ass!

803 Pshawalaw  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:55:05pm

re: #714 HelloDare

Wonder if Michelle is proud right now?

I bet Michele Malkin is proud right now.

804 Sharmuta  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:55:08pm

Is there anyone left for him to toss under that bus?

805 Luigi  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:55:09pm

The lovely and talented Geraldo just said that Obama's most influential supporter in Puerto Rico was indicted on many corruptions counts soon after announcing for Obama. Gee, I wonder why I haven't heard that before.

806 NY Nana  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:55:26pm

re: #759 DistantThunder

Hillary is the uber-cockroach politician.

Clinton backers decry party rules committee decision

Shrill isn't even that good! And it looks like she will not let it go, which is fantastic for McCain!

807 Blitherakt  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:55:32pm

re: #804 Sharmuta

Is there anyone left for him to toss under that bus?

The American people?

808 hermeneutics  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:55:45pm

re: #801 sattv4u2

No, dear, its Wymn's Studies.

809 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:55:45pm

re: #497 bellamags

Gosh I like pie.

810 mama winger  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:55:56pm

re: #787 Bobblehead

He looks so soft and cuddly.

He is - 24/7 - a bundle of lovey. I am so glad I went with my heart and adopted him. I was a little afraid of getting another dog so fast. But I decided life is to short not to have love in it. My greyhound gave me a wealth of happiness, and I wanted that to continue on.

811 MarkX  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:55:56pm

re: #804 Sharmuta

Michelle ?

812 HelloDare  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:55:56pm

Love to be at Trinity tomorrow. Trinity broadcasts their services. At least it looks like they do. [Link: www.streamingfaith.com...]

813 bellamags  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:56:00pm

re: #798 VegasRick

man that sucks. Call a friend, have them put it on their TV and put your phone on speaker.

814 Sharmuta  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:56:06pm

re: #807 Blitherakt

I should have known.

815 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:56:12pm
816 Bobblehead  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:56:17pm

re: #800 NoSubmission

YEP.

That's a good one.

817 Sharmuta  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:56:18pm

re: #811 MarkX

I was wondering that too.

818 mama winger  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:56:28pm

re: #800 NoSubmission

YEP.

HA !

819 AuldTrafford  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:56:41pm
re: #740 bellamags

do comments ever get to 1,000?

Heck yeah. And if you get the 1,000 post, you get a nice bonus in your monthly Lizard stipend.

Hey! I'm still waiting for that coffee mug I ordered from the LGF store a month ago ...

820 The Other Les  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:57:05pm

re: #771 hermeneutics

You must be an optimist!

Nah! I'm just dealing with health issues.

821 republic  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:57:09pm

re: #804 Sharmuta

Is there anyone left for him to toss under that bus?


He hasn't yet thrown Ayers under the bus.

He's probably thinking "Cabinet appointment" with Ayers.

822 HelloDare  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:57:28pm

The CNN feed is boring. They should show cartoon or something.

823 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:57:30pm

re: #730 Mich-again

Wolf Blitzer wants to know how serious HRC's threat to take the fight to the credentials committee is. Wolfie. What in her history gives you any reason to think she will just roll over and play dead?

Clinton has exactly zero to gain if she withdraws from the race now. She'll blow up Obama in Puerto Rico, and in the one remaining caucus and primary, there's a legitimate chance she could win them as well.

You can't take control of the convention floor until you are voted the candidate. And if you don't have enough pledged delegates, it has to go to a vote first. Any vote must follow any unresolved credentials fight, and any superdelegate can switch affiliations at any time.

This isn't even close to over.

824 Blitherakt  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:57:38pm

re: #821 republic

He hasn't yet thrown Ayers under the bus.

He's probably thinking "Cabinet appointment" with Ayers.

After all, it's easier to bomb government buildings from the inside...

825 sngnsgt  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:57:40pm

I still keep asking myself, why would I trust these morons to run this country when they can't even run a primary without screwing it up?

826 VegasRick  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:57:59pm

Has the liar started lieing yet?

827 bellamags  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:58:01pm

re: #810 mama winger

He looks sooo sweet. I wish i could give him a hug. all those poor babies in shelters.

828 DistantThunder  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:58:05pm

"Can't wait for '68"
"REcreate "69"


And we'll have fun fin fun
While Obama takes HIll's chances away

829 hermeneutics  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:58:16pm

Handing out copies of the speech to the press, now. They'll settle down to read. You can tell because their lips are moving while their fingers trace the text.

830 The Other Les  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:58:23pm

re: #795 DistantThunder

Geraldo -

Why is Obama doing so badly in Puerto Rico? One month after the government official in charge of the campaign in PR endorses Obama, she is indicted on 19 counts of corruption.

Chicago cooties!

831 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:58:34pm

2 minutes

832 mikeymom  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:58:36pm

re: #749 hermeneutics

kewl! i'm in longmont--nice town--near boulder tho--ugghh!

833 unrealizedviewpoint  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:58:42pm

re: #801 sattv4u2

sorry, mistaken ding-down. browser freakin'out

834 Render  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:58:47pm

Was that Richard Simmons that pranced past the podium?

NOW
THAT'S
CHANGE,
R

835 MarkX  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:58:48pm

re: #817 Sharmuta

Will she resign from the church too?

Is she still proud of America now?

I"m betting the campaign will bag her now.

836 The Shadow Do  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:58:55pm

re: #821 republic

He hasn't yet thrown Ayers under the bus.

He's probably thinking "Cabinet appointment" with Ayers.

NSA for sure.

837 DistantThunder  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:58:56pm

re: #823 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Clinton has exactly zero to gain if she withdraws from the race now. She'll blow up Obama in Puerto Rico, and in the one remaining caucus and primary, there's a legitimate chance she could win them as well.

You can't take control of the convention floor until you are voted the candidate. And if you don't have enough pledged delegates, it has to go to a vote first. Any vote must follow any unresolved credentials fight, and any superdelegate can switch affiliations at any time.

This isn't even close to over.

All hell is breaking loose - in slow motion......

838 hermeneutics  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:58:57pm

re: #820 The Other Les

Well, then, Hemlock is not the right choice for you! Seriously, Les, I hope you are on the mend.

839 sattv4u2  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:58:59pm

re: #822 HelloDare

The CNN feed is boring. They should show cartoon or something.

they are !

840 mama winger  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:59:10pm

re: #827 bellamags

He looks sooo sweet. I wish i could give him a hug. all those poor babies in shelters.

He is a sweetie. He was in a cage between two howling pit bulls. He look petrified. That did it - I brought him home. He hasn't stopped kissing me since. :)

841 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:59:11pm

re: #823 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Just to be sure I understand this, the superdelegate's so-called pledged vote means nothing until the real vote at the convention, right?

842 sparrowlake  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:59:15pm

Obama has finally renounced his phony Christian affiliation of 20 years.
He can now be proud for the first time in his adult life.

843 Blitherakt  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:59:26pm

re: #841 goddessoftheclassroom

Just to be sure I understand this, the superdelegate's so-called pledged vote means nothing until the real vote at the convention, right?

Indeed.

844 WhiteRasta  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:59:36pm

re: #823 really grumpy big dog Johnson
Who would call their kid Wolf Blitzer?

Who would take anyone with the name of one of Santa's Reindeer seriously?

845 republic  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:59:41pm

re: #824 Blitherakt

After all, it's easier to bomb government buildings from the inside...


"William Ayers, Obama's Homeland Security Chief."

846 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:59:45pm

Looks like his speech write is setting out his notes.

847 RickZ  Sat, May 31, 2008 4:59:47pm

#697 Killian Bundy

Obama resigns from Trinity United Church of Christ

/the Kiddies try and figure it all out

Someone over there has a tiny clue:

Audacity of Despair

What does Obama believe in?

Does this guy believe in anything?

When things get rough does he cut and run?

Why now, why didn't he quit when Wright, a handful of days after 9/11 said "The chickens have come home to roost for America" "Damn, Damn, Damn, America?"

Why not then, but now?

Who is Barack Obama?

by minnehot2

848 sattv4u2  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:00:04pm

re: #833 unrealizedviewpoint

sorry, mistaken ding-down. browser freakin'out

whhhhaaaa ,,, I demand a re-count !

849 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:00:09pm

Thread is moving at Ludicrous Speed!

850 FishFearMe  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:00:09pm

re: #543 jcm

Only if it's a "church bus".

851 Blitherakt  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:00:21pm

re: #845 republic

"William Ayers, Obama's Homeland Security Chief."

Hrm... Perhaps the TSA lines would be much shorter with him in charge...

852 HelloDare  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:00:30pm

How is Barack going to make Trinity United Church of Christ our problem, America's problem, and not just his.

853 hermeneutics  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:00:52pm

re: #832 mikeymom

Blue name. Please write.

854 jcm  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:00:52pm

re: #845 republic

"William Ayers, Obama's Homeland Security Chief."

More dangerous and more likely.
Sec Ed.

855 The Other Les  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:00:54pm

re: #838 hermeneutics

Well, then, Hemlock is not the right choice for you! Seriously, Les, I hope you are on the mend.

Working on it.

Need a job too.

856 gmsc  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:00:55pm

Suggested drinking rule: Anytime he says something that sounds like it's out of R.E.M.'s Losing My Religion, you take a drink!

Here are the lyrics, for those not familiar with it.

Life is bigger
It's bigger than you
And you are not me
The lengths that I will go to
The distance in your eyes
Oh no I've said too much
I set it up
That's me in the corner
That's me in the spotlight
Losing my religion
Trying to keep up with you
And I don't know if I can do it
Oh no I've said too much
I haven't said enough
I thought that I heard you laughing
I thought that I heard you sing
I think I thought I saw you try
Every whisper
Of every waking hour I'm
Choosing my confessions
Trying to keep an eye on you
Like a hurt lost and blinded fool
Oh no I've said too much
I set it up
Consider this
The hint of the century
Consider this
The slip that brought me
To my knees failed
What if all these fantasies
Come flailing around
Now I've said too much
I thought that I heard you laughing
I thought that I heard you sing
I think I thought I saw you try
But that was just a dream
That was just a dream

857 sattv4u2  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:00:56pm

re: #841 goddessoftheclassroom

Just to be sure I understand this, the superdelegate's so-called pledged vote means nothing until the real vote at the convention, right?

bingo ,,, the "superdelegates" will be showing up in Denver with a sign on their head that reads THIS SPACE FOR SALE

858 VegasRick  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:00:59pm

re: #849 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Thread is moving at Ludicrous Speed!

"Smoke em if ya got em"

859 sngnsgt  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:00:59pm

Switching to hockey, I'll watch the re-run later. This should be playing everywhere all night, but there's only one Stanley Cup.

860 DistantThunder  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:01:04pm

In some ways I feel sorry that Hillary isn't allowed to lose this fair and square - on the other hand - she deserves everything that's coming to her.

861 The Shadow Do  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:01:09pm

re: #832 mikeymom

kewl! i'm in longmont--nice town--near boulder tho--ugghh!

Do the kids still drag race up and down the main drag there?

862 mama winger  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:01:22pm

CNN and MSNBC not covering the speech?

863 pingjockey  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:01:23pm

Some one upthread said it, drink everytime he says faith, and you;ll be swacked in no time.

864 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:01:28pm

there he is

865 republic  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:01:33pm

re: #825 sngnsgt

I still keep asking myself, why would I trust these morons to run this country when they can't even run a primary without screwing it up?


Isn't 30 plus years of failed energy policy by the Democrats enough?

"If you don't like $4.00 a gallon gasoline, thank a Democ_rat."

866 Luigi  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:01:38pm

CNN is covering ... the gas crisis.

867 mikeymom  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:01:43pm

drink word is --ahhh--im drunk already

868 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:01:51pm

re: #832 mikeymom

kewl! i'm in longmont--nice town--near boulder tho--ugghh!

Not everyone drinks the koolaid around here. Believe it.

869 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:01:52pm
870 debutaunt  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:01:59pm

He is live on Fox - this is delayed.

871 MarkX  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:02:03pm

Change threads!

872 HelloDare  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:02:10pm

There he is. First lie. "I'm glad to see you guys."

873 gmsc  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:02:12pm

"It's not a decision I come to lightly"

That's me in the corner
That's me in the spotlight
Losing my religion

874 mean Gene  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:02:14pm

Some sadness?
WHY?

875 Blitherakt  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:02:15pm

re: #869 ploome hineni

......."its good to see you guys"?

is this the way a presidential candidate speaks?

When you're fresh out of High School, yes.

876 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:02:34pm

"I prayed on it with reverend moss.."

Hahahahaha!

877 trailortrash  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:02:34pm

beep beep
the bus is pulling away as we speak

878 Blitherakt  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:02:42pm

re: #871 MarkX

Change threads!

NOOOOOOO! I want my shot at #1000!

879 stevieray  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:02:53pm

The democrat party was destroyed went they let the New Left take over in the seventies. The party moved from American style liberalism [i.e. capitalist, but with a medium to large welfare system to take the edge off] to a hard left/socialist/marxist party. The marxist dogma of identity politics tagged along, and has been eating away the soul of the party ever since -- the idea that one's gender or skin color defines some sort of narrow range of "legitimate" beliefs for you, assigned to you by whichever group claims you, is offensive to anyone who values liberty.

880 mikeinmd  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:03:03pm

he only talked abot resigning AFTER Trinity went nat'l.

Gees.

881 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:03:05pm

The bus is at 20 mph... 30 mph...

882 NoSubmission  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:03:29pm

re: #842 sparrowlake

Obama has finally renounced his phony Christian affiliation of 20 years.
He can now be proud for the first time in his adult life.


I think you nailed it. He's not really one religion or another. He's not even honest with himself.

883 republic  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:03:39pm

I can't wait to see the alleged video of Michelle Obama ripping white people at their "church".

Surprise.

884 bellamags  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:04:03pm

re: #840 mama winger

I found out something interesting. My dogs had some health problems, one had an itchy rash and the other was getting bladder infections.

We figured out it was our soft water.

Turns out you shouldn't drink soft water or cook with it.

If you have soft water - don't drink it or give to your animals.

885 coldpizza  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:04:29pm

I just saw a disturbing Documentary(I realize there is no thread on this subject yet)
A Muslim-American man tries to obtain a pilot's license against tides of negative public perception. Its another attempt to downplay the threat that some Muslims could impose on the West.
I'm not against a Muslim learning to fly or having a pilots license, but I don't like how this documentary tries to make it seem as if we have "wronged" Muslims in some way. Did anyone else see it? Here is the link.

[Link: www.iptv.org...]

886 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:04:32pm

re: #841 goddessoftheclassroom

Just to be sure I understand this, the superdelegate's so-called pledged vote means nothing until the real vote at the convention, right?

Uncommitted until the first ballot, and changeable after that. I'm not sure how many ballots it takes, but if a candidate isn't elected after a certain number of ballots (and I don't think it's that many) then all delegates become free to vote for anyone they choose. In fact, they can nominate a candidate that never even campaigned for the presidency. It's happened before.

887 Dr. Shalit  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:04:54pm

re: #372 solomonpanting

"sol" -

They BOTH SURE DO! - Say HELLO to PM HARPER or BERLUSCONI (The Guy that Got the Garbage Picked Up in Naples, it!), Juan Epstien, where are you when we NEED you?

-S-

888 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:04:55pm
889 Just Above Average  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:05:12pm

re: #678 hermeneutics

Barry is speaking right now and said that he and Michelle decided after the Nat'l Press Club Wright/Wrong incident to leave the church.

890 astronmr20  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:05:13pm

He's pulling an interesting angle on this one...

891 republic  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:05:24pm

re: #876 astronmr20

"I prayed on it with reverend moss.."

Hahahahaha!


His "Rev" Moss is as much of a racist prick as Wright is.

892 MrArchieBunker  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:05:24pm

Rev. Moss is a victim, how quaint....

893 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:05:43pm
894 bellamags  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:06:13pm

re: #893 ploome hineni

why?

895 gmsc  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:06:19pm

"Now, I'd like to quickly change the subject to the MI/FL deal . . . "

896 Blitherakt  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:07:13pm

re: #894 bellamags

why?

It should have a large portion of the minerals removed and have a slightly higher salinity than tap water. I'd like to see the vet's reasons on this.

897 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:07:31pm

re: #893 ploome hineni

this does not make sense

True. All "soft" implies is a lack of excessive minerality. Nothing else.

898 ContraJihadi  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:08:43pm

re: #793 mean Gene

Is anyone who talks about his OLD ex-church after today a racist?

That, no doubt, is the plan. Its pastor can go on ranting, Obama can collect donations, and it will all be hush hush, free of distraction.

899 sadhu  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:09:03pm

just back to Mom and Dad's after seeing the Shuttle liftoff -- traffic was a little intense getting out :)

I went to Veteran's Memorial Park in Titusville and stood packed in with the crowd -- lots of vets and kids were there.

WOW -- that sucker moves! on TV, I always thought that it looked like it really lumbers off slowly -- nope -- it's booking along at 6000 mph within a minute

The cheers and tears were the best!

THANKS

900 bellamags  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:09:20pm

re: #896 Blitherakt

she said it could change the ph in her bladder. as for the dachshund, she has a blood disorder and we think it has something to do with that.

We lived in a house that had soft water. these problems plagued our dogs. We then moved and had regular water for a year. No problems with the dogs. My husband installed a water softener and in 2 days they both exhibited the same symptoms as previous.

901 mikeymom  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:09:34pm

re: #861 The Shadow Do

no crusing was banned a few yrs ago

902 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:10:13pm
903 Blitherakt  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:10:36pm

re: #900 bellamags

she said it could change the ph in her bladder. as for the dachshund, she has a blood disorder and we think it has something to do with that.

Interesting. Salt-based soft water softener, or RO system?

904 Blitherakt  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:11:05pm

re: #903 Blitherakt

Interesting. Salt-based soft water softener, or RO system?

Redundant-based redundancy? :)

905 tblot  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:11:11pm

IRS must be on the churces back so they ask obama to help them

906 republic  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:11:42pm

re: #898 ContraJihadi

That, no doubt, is the plan. Its pastor can go on ranting, Obama can collect donations, and it will all be hush hush, free of distraction.

It makes no diference, Obama said in the 20+ years there, he had no idea of the racism and other hatred that is being preached there.

The Obama camp has been playing the race card, with little success, so now, they are going at it from the sympathy angle.

907 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:12:06pm
908 sparrowlake  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:12:34pm

re: #902 ploome hineni

I cannot believe his arogance and mendacity and how he keeps protecting his filthy church

It's a living.

909 bellamags  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:13:07pm

re: #903 Blitherakt

salt based. thats it. we need to disconnect the salt based system from our kitchen sink and install an osmosis filter.

BTW - Obama is imploding on FOX

910 profitsbeard  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:13:19pm

Is he looking into sweetie pastor Hagee's church?

911 republic  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:13:24pm

re: #902 ploome hineni

I cannot believe his arogance and mendacity and how he keeps protecting his filthy church


As I stated earlier, 20+ years of Satanic teachings are too much for Obama to break free of by his own power.

912 Dr. Shalit  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:13:25pm

re: #726 astronmr20

"a-20" -

For what it is worth, "Cerveza Modelo" brews come into the US "Half Skunky", just like Heineken and Beck's. Truthfully, a "Ghetto Brew" like Steel Reserve, Camo, St. Ides, or "OE" among others that is FRESH goes down better with a Bigger Hit (Except "OE" on the 'hit' - "OE" is a vastly devalued "Pound" as compared to +/- 1969 when it came out - take it from the "Dr." on that one.

-S-

913 republic  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:15:00pm

re: #907 ploome hineni

listen to the crap this man is speaking to distract from the issue

which is the repugnant behavior and content of hatred this church represents

There has been talk about a "surprise" video of Michelle Obama ripping white people at that very "church".

It will be interesting to see and hear when it finally makes the rounds.

914 Blitherakt  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:15:02pm

re: #909 bellamags

salt based. thats it. we need to disconnect the salt based system from our kitchen sink and install an osmosis filter.

Interesting. I'm aware that RO systems alter the pH of the water (making it a bit acidic), but I wasn't aware salt-based systems did that. I'll have to check the pH of my pool when I get home and see what it is compared to the tap water.

915 sparrowlake  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:15:05pm

re: #910 profitsbeard

Is he looking into sweetie pastor Hagee's church?

No can do - Hagee is far too biased in favour of Israel.

916 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:15:22pm
917 WhiteRasta  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:16:18pm

re: #885 coldpizza

Well, quite frankly after 9/11, I'd be dammed if I'd let a muslim into my flying school.

Go take your business elsewhere, Achmed.

Like France....

So sue me.

918 bellamags  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:16:30pm

re: #916 ploome hineni

We need something different.

919 bellamags  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:17:33pm

Obama doesn't know what to say. He is totally sweating and freaking out. He is probably going to puke when he gets off the stage.

920 Mich-again  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:19:00pm

re: #823 really grumpy big dog Johnson

This isn't even close to over.

She might be convinced to cut a deal to give up if he names her his running mate. But even that is a stretch. Stockpile popcorn!

921 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:20:02pm
922 Mich-again  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:21:08pm

Red Wings on the big screen in HD. 12 pack on ice. See ya!

923 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:23:07pm
924 Macker  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:25:43pm

re: #284 really grumpy big dog Johnson

The superdelegates in those states will almost totally nullify that delegate gain, just like they did in another state recently.

Take it away from the most popular candidate and reward the chosen one.

The five lights of the apocalypse rising struggling towards the light, the sins revealed only to those who enter the temple only to the chosen one. The chosen one. The chosen one. The chosen one. The chosen one.

925 ted  Sat, May 31, 2008 5:38:30pm

Obama you meshugah, come to NYC and talk to my people..we'll have a cup of coffee too.

[Link: images.search.yahoo.com...]

926 REDSTATE  Sat, May 31, 2008 7:33:46pm

Speaking from personal experience in the United Church of Christ, after 15+ years as a member, a deacon, a missionary, and serving on several other committees, I can tel you that I left when about 3 years ago when the church seemed to lurch to the left.

I witnessed my pastor preaching sermons that stated that the Gospel doesn't mean what it say when it says in John 14:6 "No one can come to the Father, except through Me". I witnessed posters that proclaimed feed a woman, feed a family - implying that men will feed themselves and let their kids starve. I witnessed a church that accused me of racism when I proposed mission support for slave rescue missions in Sudan - assuming some perverted sort of white guilt. And a church that invited a speaker on MLK day who unabashedly accused all whites of being racists ,simply because we are white.

Obama listened to MUCH worse - and didn't leave. And he listened to it WITH HIS CHILDREN for over 20 years.

He listened to hatred being preached from the pulpit in a congregation that cheered and danced in the aisles over such twisted preaching.

And he didn't leave until it was exposed to the bright light of day.

Letting your children be indoctrinated into HATE and RACISM doesn't strike me as the kind of judgment that I want governing our country.

In fact, it strike me as a cynical, cheap last-ditch effort to escape a 20+ year histroy that is filled with revealing FACTS.

As a wise person once observed, ethics are what you do WHEN NO ONE IS LOOKING.

927 isurviving  Sat, May 31, 2008 8:15:52pm

This is simply a part of his long-term strategy. The Left has long anointed Obama as the Messiah. He is simply leaving to make his religion official.

Praise be Barack.

928 yochanan  Sat, May 31, 2008 9:32:02pm

re: #80 NoSubmission

Okay, it positively BEGS the question:

WHAT COCKAMAMIE CHURCH WILL HE JOIN NEXT?

FDLS

929 donk1100  Sun, Jun 1, 2008 6:01:25am

he is a coward re: #23 astronmr20

Notice when and how this was done.

No big speech, done on a Saturday.. (day before Sunday which is another chance for a stark-raving mad racist preacher to say something else), and remember Saturday is the dead-zone for news cycles. No pundit shows waiting to pounce... no H&C, no Glenn Beck, no talk radio.

And as another lizard pointed out in the last thread, the media is transfixed with the dem process itself at this point.

930 Dan G.  Sun, Jun 1, 2008 1:21:57pm

Has anyone heard if there is an edited version of Outkast's "Rosa Parks" make especially for Obama?

I say, ahhhh haaa hush that fuss, everyone get under-neath da bus...


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