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The First Notes of Hillary's Swan Song

Sat, May 31, 2008 at 7:21:51 pm PDT

We all know it’s coming, we just don’t know when: Hillary Clinton to be offered dignified exit.

It’s clear that the Democratic Party believes a radical left candidate is their best chance to win the White House this year. Hillary’s just a little bit too sane. Under the bus with her.

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1 mikeinmd  5/31/08 7:22:59 pm reply quote 4

when hell freezes over is my first thought.

2 elevenbravo1969  5/31/08 7:23:12 pm reply quote 0

Adios!

3 Racer X  5/31/08 7:23:16 pm reply quote 1

I would not count her out just yet.

4 Racer X  5/31/08 7:23:47 pm reply quote 3

re: #1 mikeinmd

subtle.

5 Killian Bundy  5/31/08 7:23:50 pm reply quote 1
Hillary Clinton to be offered dignified exit

/get out or it's under the bus you go

6 NJDhockeyfan  5/31/08 7:24:13 pm reply quote 0

Will she stay on a binge till then?

7 Sharmuta  5/31/08 7:24:26 pm reply quote 11

Don't go for it Hill! Never surrender!

8 mitthrawnurdo  5/31/08 7:25:04 pm reply quote 0

re: #5 Killian Bundy

But I thought it wasn't over until the "Lady in the Pantsuit" said so?

/My mom swears that Hillary said something like this.

9 BingoBunny  5/31/08 7:25:15 pm reply quote 19

Hillary will be dignified if she wins nomination.. otherwise she will be the Dems worst nightmare.

10 pat  5/31/08 7:25:32 pm reply quote 10

In like a lion, out like a bitch.

11 MrArchieBunker  5/31/08 7:25:33 pm reply quote 1

HHS Sec. Clinton? Oh man, that fire up the GOP base!

12 Shay4l  5/31/08 7:25:37 pm reply quote 12

Well, if it requires her to be dignified, I guess they're out of luck

13 jaunte  5/31/08 7:25:48 pm reply quote 1

Keep on fighting, Hillary.

14 WindHorse  5/31/08 7:25:53 pm reply quote 2

where I come from....

Pants suits never quit.....

(just remember that Hillary.... just remember...)

15 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  5/31/08 7:25:55 pm 5
16 Sharmuta  5/31/08 7:25:59 pm reply quote 8

Don't go for it Hill. He's half white- don't trust whitey!

17 Israel4ever  5/31/08 7:26:09 pm reply quote 3

I can't believe I almost feel a little bit bad for Hillary. I mean, to be treated like that by your own party after being such a good moonbat.
OT - I hope McCain picks Jindal.

18 UberInfidel67  5/31/08 7:26:35 pm reply quote 0

I hope the hell she stays in! I would rather see her vs McCain than the Obamessiah! Holy cow....I will hide under the covers if she quits. But she seems like a snotty bitch....hopefully she tells the Dem party to GFT. I fear Obamessiah more than I fear her.

JMHO

19 MrArchieBunker  5/31/08 7:26:44 pm reply quote 0

Preview is your friend: HHS Sec. Clinton? Oh man, that will fire up the GOP base!

20 NJDhockeyfan  5/31/08 7:26:47 pm reply quote 4

I have a feeling the Clintons have a whopper coming by the end of the summer and the Messiah will be the target.

21 DesertSage  5/31/08 7:26:56 pm reply quote 0
The former First Lady would get the chance to pilot Mr Obama’s reforms of the American healthcare system if she agrees to clear the path to his nomination as Democratic presidential candidate.

Not again. Haven't we already been through this once?

22 mitthrawnurdo  5/31/08 7:27:04 pm reply quote 0

re: #15 song_and_dance_man

Liquor works too.

23 mitthrawnurdo  5/31/08 7:27:26 pm reply quote 1

re: #21 DesertSage

Two socialists are better than one!

24 pat  5/31/08 7:27:46 pm reply quote 2

She was an idiot. She never went for Obama's throat. She thought the GOP would. But McCain loves Dems more than his own party, what ever party that is.

25 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  5/31/08 7:27:52 pm 3
26 Oh no...Sand People!  5/31/08 7:27:54 pm reply quote 4

When animals eat their own.

27 Brigman  5/31/08 7:28:07 pm reply quote 1

not if this Harriet has anything to do with it....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KACQuZVAE3s

28 Sharmuta  5/31/08 7:28:24 pm reply quote 1
Tentative contacts have already taken place between Obama and Clinton aides over the endgame, but there have been no formal talks.

obama's practicing for iran.

29 really grumpy big dog johnson  5/31/08 7:28:30 pm reply quote 8

Hillary won't bow out until she's ushered off the convention floor in advance of the grand coronation. She plans on keeping that from happening. I would not bet against her, but I sure would bet against her party in November.

30 DesertSage  5/31/08 7:28:30 pm reply quote 8

re: #23 mitthrawnurdo

Two socialists are better than one!

I've seen this movie before, it doesn't end well.

31 pat  5/31/08 7:29:19 pm reply quote 0

Obama is such a weak and uneducated candidate they might have to pick her for VP.

32 nigella  5/31/08 7:29:28 pm reply quote 16

Frankly, if she does this soon, she is stupid, and I don't think the Clintons are stupid. She must see that her opponent for the nomination is imploding and she isn't that far behind.I think there is still something out there about Obama that she knows exists and that is why she has stayed in this long. I believe she had hoped the Republicans would spring it so she hasn't unleashed it. My feeling is that she is trying to survive until the convention and hope someone else releases it.I know that is a conspiracy theory, but it seems the only explanation I can come up with for her to stay in this thing.

33 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  5/31/08 7:29:31 pm 3
34 stevieray  5/31/08 7:29:47 pm reply quote 6

Oh c'mon... Hillary ain't going near any kind of healthcare omnibus bill. Especially one where the putative president could abandon the bill and leave her twisting in the wind -- again -- over socialized medicine. That would make her look foolish, and drive the final, permanent nail in any future presidential aspirations. She'd be a dolt to take this offer.

35 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  5/31/08 7:30:27 pm 0
36 really grumpy big dog johnson  5/31/08 7:30:43 pm reply quote 7

re: #17 Israel4ever

I can't believe I almost feel a little bit bad for Hillary. I mean, to be treated like that by your own party after being such a good moonbat.
OT - I hope McCain picks Jindal.

Jindal is one vibrantly intelligent young man. I worry about experience with him, but my intuition says he has more sense in his pinky finger than Obama will ever have.

37 Anthony (Los Angeles)  5/31/08 7:30:45 pm reply quote 4

There's no way Lady Macbeth would accept this offer, unless it were to sabotage Obama from the inside. I think she'd rather stay in the Senate and challenge him in 2012 if, Cthulhu forbid, he wins in '08.

38 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  5/31/08 7:30:59 pm 1
39 Arkay  5/31/08 7:31:02 pm reply quote 17

One recalls the man who gave instructions on the disposal of his mother-in-law's remains.

'Enbalm, cremate and bury. Take no chances!'

OTOH, the Obamanable Snowjob may, just *may*, turn into the biggest gafft, I mean gift, the GOP could ask for in this particular year. The man who can't remember how many states there are in the Union, who thinks the honored dead really want to hear him speak, who gives $20,000 to a racist church he runs away from at the last possible moment, may actually be beatable.

The problem I have is the messiah factor. Too many people think this joker can walk on water--it truly frightens me to think him with 60 senators and a Demo house.

40 Richard Romano  5/31/08 7:31:18 pm reply quote 13

This is a real laugher -- here's a party that has created a whole host of victimization groups, and now they're reaping; it's going to be a nasty drive to Denver.

To add, the gaffes keep piling up, before they know it, the man will have a book of gaffes -- they are actually sowing the seeds of their landslide defeat in November...what will they do then?

41 Killian Bundy  5/31/08 7:31:21 pm reply quote 2

Can Obama throw her under the bus before he ends up in Fort Marcy Park?

/June starts tomorrow, remember what happened to RFK

42 Who Watches the Watchmen?  5/31/08 7:31:25 pm reply quote 1

Hell no, she won't go! She's taking it to Denver.

43 DesertSage  5/31/08 7:31:27 pm reply quote 1

re: #36 really grumpy big dog johnson

Jindal is one vibrantly intelligent young man. I worry about experience with him, but my intuition says he has more sense in his pinky finger than Obama will ever have.

And he speaks a whole lot better also.

44 elevenbravo1969  5/31/08 7:31:42 pm reply quote 0

I can't wait for her to start campaigning for the 'anointed one.' I will be analyzing her every statement and calculating how painful it must have been for her to deliver it. I swear it's going to be as if she's pulling out her own fingernails one by one...and then starting in on her toenails. Hoo-hah!

45 solomonpanting  5/31/08 7:32:18 pm reply quote 6
Another Democrat who has discussed strategy with friends in the Obama inner circle said that Mr Obama was openly considering asking Mrs Clinton to join his cabinet, alongside two other former presidential rivals: John Edwards, who is seen as a likely attorney general;

That alone is enough to not vote for Obama.

46 Sgt.Slappy  5/31/08 7:32:22 pm reply quote 2

A less palatable democrat (B. Hussein Obama) may not necessarily be a bad thing if McCain is going to win this election. I only wish the Repubs could run a genuine conservative candidate.

Of course, if B. Hussein managed to win... God help us all.

47 Oh no...Sand People!  5/31/08 7:32:24 pm reply quote 3

re: #36 really grumpy big dog johnson

Jindal is one vibrantly intelligent young man. I worry about experience with him, but my intuition says he has more sense in his pinky finger than Obama will ever have.

Absolutely. If he can use Louisiana as his proving grounds and fix that broken mess of a socialist welfare state post Katrina his nomination would be assured. Forget Veep. Go all the way.

48 Sharmuta  5/31/08 7:33:24 pm reply quote 3

She should active the Omega 13!

Never give up! Never surrender! Go, Hill, go!

49 rollingdivision  5/31/08 7:34:10 pm reply quote 2

At one time I thought Clinton would be the easier Democrat to beat. Now, after much hard work by Obama, he has changed (he loves change!) my mind and I think he is the weaker. Hopefully, Clinton will be dissed to the point she keeps up the fight and takes this to the convention.

50 Who Watches the Watchmen?  5/31/08 7:34:16 pm reply quote 22

It's a strange state of affairs when Lizards root for Hillary.

51 nigella  5/31/08 7:34:40 pm reply quote 1

Sharmuta I love Galaxy Quest. It's so funny because it is so Star trek, William Shatner.

52 Oh no...Sand People!  5/31/08 7:34:55 pm reply quote 1

re: #50 Who Watches the Watchmen?

It's a strange state of affairs when Lizards root for Hillary.

Sign of End Times.

no sarc.

53 Who Watches the Watchmen?  5/31/08 7:35:07 pm reply quote 2

I still hope they nominate Barry Waffles, but I'm loving the chaos.

54 Racer X  5/31/08 7:35:13 pm reply quote 2

My prediction still stands. Hillary will not give up.

55 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  5/31/08 7:35:25 pm 14
56 sngnsgt  5/31/08 7:35:40 pm reply quote 2

Run Hillary run!

57 Killian Bundy  5/31/08 7:35:51 pm reply quote 5

re: #50 Who Watches the Watchmen?

It's a strange state of affairs when Lizards root for Hillary.

Its a win win situation.

/she can't win, but she can still cause a lot of damage

58 Sharmuta  5/31/08 7:36:07 pm reply quote 0
Informal talks have already begun between Obama and Clinton fundraisers to discuss a merger, enabling Mr Obama to pay off Mrs Clinton’s campaign debts of $11 million

Well- there is that. But all she needs is another book deal, so I don't see why she'd need to go for this.

59 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  5/31/08 7:36:57 pm 0
60 sngnsgt  5/31/08 7:37:54 pm reply quote 4

A Clinton dignified? Since when?

61 really grumpy big dog johnson  5/31/08 7:38:50 pm reply quote 0

re: #47 Oh no...Sand People!

Absolutely. If he can use Louisiana as his proving grounds and fix that broken mess of a socialist welfare state post Katrina his nomination would be assured. Forget Veep. Go all the way.

I'd prefer that he had at least four years of seasoning first. But I am amazed by him. He makes Obama look like a shadow.

62 Yankee Division Son  5/31/08 7:38:57 pm reply quote 0

Ah.. but will she accept said offer..

63 Oh no...Sand People!  5/31/08 7:39:00 pm reply quote 0

re: #60 sngnsgt

A Clinton dignified? Since when?

It depends on what 'is' is.

64 snowcrash  5/31/08 7:39:07 pm reply quote 9

Hillary should fight to the end. She has been so dissed by the media and her party that a scorched earth policy doesn't seem out of the question.

65 Lively  5/31/08 7:39:28 pm reply quote 1

Are we all gonna meek back here on Sunday to watch Trinity's church service. It should be lively.

66 opnion  5/31/08 7:39:45 pm reply quote 2

re: #24 pat

She was an idiot. She never went for Obama's throat. She thought the GOP would. But McCain loves Dems more than his own party, what ever party that is.

I have to agree with the McCain comment, But he seems to really dislike Barry.
My guess is that McCain sees Obama as a less than loyal American. Whatever I think of him, he is a patriot.

67 Lively  5/31/08 7:39:59 pm reply quote 1

re: #63 Oh no...Sand People!

It depends on what 'is' is.

It also depends on what "when" is.

68 JeremyR  5/31/08 7:40:45 pm reply quote 11

re: #56 sngnsgt

Run Hillary run!

Is that sticker on the front bumper, or the back one?

69 ciaospirit  5/31/08 7:41:09 pm reply quote 0

re: #31 pat

Obama is such a weak and uneducated candidate they might have to pick her for VP.

Not according to this Dem pollster in the article who gives us his all wise all knowing assessment of Hillary's defeat. (notice he says defeat as if it's a done deal)

In any case, Mr Mellman believes the decisive factor in her defeat was the one she couldn’t control. “The most important thing was that she was up against Barack Obama. He is enormously talented.”

70 MandyManners  5/31/08 7:41:40 pm reply quote 3

re: #50 Who Watches the Watchmen?

It's a strange state of affairs when Lizards root for Hillary.

She's not nearly as scary as BHO.

71 itellu3times  5/31/08 7:41:40 pm reply quote 1

re: #11 MrArchieBunker

HHS Sec. Clinton? Oh man, that fire up the GOP base!

Associate Supreme Court Justice Hillary R. Clinton

72 winston06  5/31/08 7:41:59 pm reply quote 3

Obama is like New Hamshire's Ned Lamont in 2006 elections

73 Adrenalyn  5/31/08 7:42:02 pm reply quote 2

I see Hitlerynot giving up
she will start her own party, like Ross Perot
to fuck Obama

she knows she has no viable chance ever again after this
and the old saying still goes
hell hath no fury like a woman scorned

she'll ruin him and the party
stay in the Senate until her term ends
and quietly leave public life

oh, and Bill Clinton will have a heart attack and die in there somewhere

74 David Simon  5/31/08 7:42:02 pm reply quote 0
The former First Lady would get the chance to pilot Mr Obama’s reforms of the American healthcare system if she agrees to clear the path to his nomination as Democratic presidential candidate.

I just felt something run up my leg - and make a B line to my anus.

75 nigella  5/31/08 7:42:16 pm reply quote 11

Look. I'm not rooting for Hillary in anyway, but Obama needed to be kept in this nomination fight for as long as possible. You can see what has happened because it has dragged on as long as it has. None of this stuff would have had a chance to come out. I'm sure the Clinton's have had a hand in the "leaks" about Wright,Ayres, etc.That being said it has been helpful to McCain. He is also not my favorite, but I will vote for him. I'm not sure who is more electable, Obama, or Hillary. If by some unfortunate turn of fate, Hillary gets the nod and beats McCain, I don't think she is as dangerous as the "messiah" BHO. Just my two cents worth.P.S, It made me gag just to say that about the Hildebeast.......

76 quickjustice  5/31/08 7:42:36 pm reply quote 1

What, exactly, is a "dignified" exit? If she concedes defeat, will they hand her a plaque commending her valiant battle for the Democratic nomination? Or will they send flowers to her funeral? ;-)

77 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  5/31/08 7:42:48 pm 1
78 sngnsgt  5/31/08 7:42:59 pm reply quote 2

re: #63 Oh no...Sand People!

It depends on what 'is' is.

How about, Hillary Clinton 'is' NOT going to win the Democratic Nomination?

79 Oh no...Sand People!  5/31/08 7:43:13 pm reply quote 0

re: #74 David Simon

I just felt something run up my leg - and make a B line to my anus.

BWAAAHAAAHAAA!

80 opnion  5/31/08 7:43:20 pm reply quote 3

re: #49 rollingdivision

At one time I thought Clinton would be the easier Democrat to beat. Now, after much hard work by Obama, he has changed (he loves change!) my mind and I think he is the weaker. Hopefully, Clinton will be dissed to the point she keeps up the fight and takes this to the convention.

A Clinton spokesman said that they would take it to the Credentials Committee in July and would not rule out a court challenge. This is beautiful

81 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  5/31/08 7:43:28 pm 1
82 really grumpy big dog johnson  5/31/08 7:43:33 pm reply quote 2

re: #66 opnion

I have to agree with the McCain comment, But he seems to really dislike Barry.
My guess is that McCain sees Obama as a less than loyal American. Whatever I think of him, he is a patriot.

Hillary's biggest mistake by far was assuming she'd have the nomination wrapped up by Super Tuesday. Her plan kerplopped when that didn't happen, and she had no troops on the ground to challenge the Obama surge. That one error alone may have cost her the election. But I won't count her out until I hear the vote that says Obama's the man. I can't understand a political party that would select an unelectable nominee, but then again, I haven't been a Demonrat for a long time.

83 sngnsgt  5/31/08 7:43:52 pm reply quote 3

re: #68 JeremyR

Is that sticker on the front bumper, or the back one?

Yes.

84 Oh no...Sand People!  5/31/08 7:44:07 pm reply quote 0

re: #78 sngnsgt

How about, Hillary Clinton 'is' NOT going to win the Democratic Nomination?

Fair enough.

heh.

85 Yankee Division Son  5/31/08 7:44:38 pm reply quote 0

Right now, a CNN "special investigation unit" report is on, "Obama's Fighting Spirit, How he knocks out the Competition"

86 Yankee Division Son  5/31/08 7:45:26 pm reply quote 0

re: #85 Yankee Division Son

Must be a slow news day...

87 Oh no...Sand People!  5/31/08 7:45:33 pm reply quote 2

re: #85 Yankee Division Son

Right now, a CNN "special investigation unit" report is on, "Obama's Fighting Spirit, How he knocks out the Competition"

I so hate liberal MSM damage control. Haughty arrogant bastards.

88 acapesket123  5/31/08 7:45:36 pm reply quote 0

Is this not fun?
When McQueeg is so painful,
it's fabulously fun to watch the Victims Rights Groups,
formerly known as the DNC go down to the dark side of the puddle.

89 ciaospirit  5/31/08 7:45:39 pm reply quote 2

Arrogance. I hope he gets the rug pulled.

Mr Obama hinted at the plan last week. “One of my heroes is Abraham Lincoln,” he said. “Lincoln basically pulled in all the people who had been running against him into his cabinet because whatever personal feelings there were, the issue was 'how can we get this country through this time of crisis?’ And I think that has to be the approach that one takes.”

90 MrArchieBunker  5/31/08 7:46:17 pm reply quote 1

re: #71 itellu3times

Now that you mention it, that might be HRC's bottom line bargaining position. She could occupy the Ruth Bader Ginsberg 'seat'. A seat on the Supreme Court would be much more prestigious that a mere cabinet post.

91 hermeneutics  5/31/08 7:46:18 pm reply quote 0

re: #80 opnion

A court challenge? Incredible. Any Lizard Lawyers here know what claims they would make in court? I would think that a political party is immune from judicial interference ... but maybe not.

92 looking closely  5/31/08 7:46:19 pm reply quote 1

Hilary is a seated Dem Senator in a reliably Dem state.

She ain't going anywhere, and considering this is probably her last "hurrah" in running for President for at least four and possibly eight years she has little to lose by dragging things out as long as possible.

93 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  5/31/08 7:46:27 pm 0
94 Grammy Cracker  5/31/08 7:46:32 pm reply quote 0

re: #72 winston06

Obama is like New Hamshire's Ned Lamont in 2006 elections

Pssst....Lamont is from Connecticut...

95 jaunte  5/31/08 7:46:42 pm reply quote 0

re: #89 ciaospirit

Chicago rules? Everyone gets to wet their beak...

96 Dr. Shalit  5/31/08 7:46:44 pm reply quote 0

I remember WELL the Hillary Rodham, Esq. of 1974. No Tears for Her, Argentina!

-S-

97 Grammy Cracker  5/31/08 7:47:11 pm reply quote -2

WOOT! Red Wings win game 4....

Come on home, Stanley!

98 Sharmuta  5/31/08 7:47:16 pm reply quote 3

re: #64 snowcrash

Hillary should fight to the end. She has been so dissed by the media and her party that a scorched earth policy doesn't seem out of the question.

We're talking about Hillary. Not only is scorched earth not out of the question, I'd say it's a sure thing.

99 NY Nana  5/31/08 7:47:55 pm reply quote 0

re: #62 Yankee Division Son

And would anyone want to see Shrill be in charge of health care? Anyone?

His list of the losers he would appoint is laughable.

/Was Albore on it?

I am not worried about either a Hussein or a Shrillary presidency. Both are too dangerous to our country.

And I think a lot of Demonrats will stay home and pout on Election Day.

I do not expect a gracious exit by Shrill, remembering how she had to be practically pulled off from the front gate of the White House, kicking and screaming, on Inauguration Day, in 2001.

100 DesertSage  5/31/08 7:48:19 pm reply quote 0

The stakes are too high, Hillary will not back down.

101 kynna  5/31/08 7:48:25 pm reply quote 6

I think they are both awful and need to be beaten. I hate that McCain is my only choice, but I'll make it. I do NOT think there will only be 4 years of Obama. I DO think a significant, if not ruinous, amount of damage can be done to this country by a President Obama.

102 really grumpy big dog johnson  5/31/08 7:48:27 pm reply quote 6

re: #89 ciaospirit

Arrogance. I hope he gets the rug pulled.

I bet that Obama thinks that Abe was the dem who freed the slaves. While in office, he was one of the most reviled and distrusted presidents ever. It was only through the long lens of history that we saw how truly great that log cabin lawyer really was.

103 jollypigeon  5/31/08 7:48:28 pm reply quote 7

I think today was a big day for Hillary. I am not saying she is going to win, but she lives to fight another day. They negotiated to seat half the delegates and that raised the total number of delegates now needed to secure the nomination. Obama can't declare victory on Tuesday. Anybody want to bet that unaffiliated (wink, wink) democrats in both states are now going to litigate for the remaining half? She now can argue that she won the popular vote. Why would she quit now? What superdelegates wants to be known as the person that killed her campaign? And lo and behold, the Pastor issue is back. Who knows how much more Obama is going to to get dusted up betweeen now and the convention. Two plus months is an eternity in politics-she can't quit.

104 yesandno  5/31/08 7:48:41 pm reply quote 10

That picture of Hillary with Bill and Chelsea....having a laugh between themselves.

This is the most "intimate" portrait I have seen of them....they share something that no one outside that little coterie knows at that point in time. It is a very humanizing picture, and certainly not one of defeat.

I hope she loses, but I hope BHO doesn't win. She would be bad for the country. Hell, McCain won't be actually good. But B. Hussein will bring about the end of the country as we know it. This isn't just the usual bad mouthing of the opposition.

This is the Manchurian candidate. Fear is a realistic reaction.

105 Bob in Breckenridge  5/31/08 7:49:02 pm reply quote 0

re: #91 hermeneutics

A court challenge? Incredible. Any Lizard Lawyers here know what claims they would make in court? I would think that a political party is immune from judicial interference ... but maybe not.

Equal protection clause.

106 Gozer the Carpathian  5/31/08 7:49:09 pm reply quote 1

Bah.. like she'll quit now. If she didn't quit when he was riding high she's not going to quit now. Especially after this "Half Vote" BS from the rules comittee.

107 Oh no...Sand People!  5/31/08 7:49:09 pm reply quote 0

re: #89 ciaospirit

Mr Obama hinted at the plan last week. “One of my heroes is Abraham Lincoln,” he said. “Lincoln basically pulled in all the people who had been running against him into his cabinet because whatever personal feelings there were, the issue was 'how can we get this country through this time of crisis?’ And I think that has to be the approach that one takes.”

Arrogance. I hope he gets the rug pulled.

Lets see:

1. Tom Tancredo: Secretary of Defense
2. Fred Thompson: Secretary of State

I am sure there are many other vital positions that would be worth having Romney, Rudy, and (California's Presidential candidates name eludes me) them on.

108 hermeneutics  5/31/08 7:49:24 pm reply quote 3

re: #92 looking closely

Agreed. She has NOTHING to gain by taking a cabinet position or by giving up early. The only cred she'll get is that of being a Democratic loyalist ... a party trooper. She's already squandered that so why bother.

If she delays, Obama could implode. This is truly likely. Its a question of timing -- before or after the convention. If after the convention, she can smugly said, "I told you so" and return to her NY senate seat.

Nice gig. She wins.

109 Sharmuta  5/31/08 7:49:26 pm reply quote 0
Backed into a corner, Mrs Clinton responded with increasingly outlandish claims about her qualifications, including a ludicrous statement that she had braved sniper fire on a trip to Bosnia.

Yeah- well she have claimed her uncle liberated Auschwitz....

110 Killgore Trout  5/31/08 7:49:54 pm reply quote 3

I'm not sure how this will go but I don't think it's over. The decision today was arbitrary and weird; to just seat delegates with 1/2 votes. I don't think Clinton supporters would be appeased because because not all votes are counted equally. I also suspect that Hillary still smells blood in the water. Obama in prone to gaffes and is slow to react to controversies (like his church) which makes him very vulnerable. If I were to guess I'd bet Hillary will stick it out and take it to the convention.

111 opnion  5/31/08 7:50:09 pm reply quote 0

re: #91 hermeneutics

A court challenge? Incredible. Any Lizard Lawyers here know what claims they would make in court? I would think that a political party is immune from judicial interference ... but maybe not.

I would love to know the theory for the action too,
My guess is that if they do go to court, the cause of action would be a voting rights violation wrapped around a denial of civil rights,

112 gymnast  5/31/08 7:51:13 pm reply quote 1

Hillary is just going to sit herself on a shelf and wait for the moment when Obama alive looks deader than Robert Kennedy. She will then suddenly reappear as the "viable alternative" about Labor Day or so. She won't get elected but will preserve the Copperhead core of the party for purposes of the house and senate election. My 2 cents worth for free!

113 nigella  5/31/08 7:51:34 pm reply quote 3

Ciaspirit, zeez... What the hell are spoiled Americans going to do with a real "crisis"?Sorry if the cost of gas is 4.00 a gallon so you may have to cut out one or two of your lattes a week. Or 3% of new home buyers bought more house than they can afford so the can't make their payments. Or Their favorite American idol lost. A criss this is not! Now vote in Mr. Hope and Change ant then we can talk crisis. Sorry if I offended any of you lizards who really are in trouble....

114 snowcrash  5/31/08 7:51:39 pm reply quote 3

re: #98 Sharmuta
She has proven she can play rough with the boys. I won't vote for her for ideological reasons but I have gained a new respect for her tenacity and ability to play the game. She is blazing the path for other women.

115 Grammy Cracker  5/31/08 7:51:39 pm reply quote 2

re: #107 Oh no...Sand People!

Lets see:

1. Tom Tancredo: Secretary of Defense
2. Fred Thompson: Secretary of State

I am sure there are many other vital positions that would be worth having Romney, Rudy, and (California's Presidential candidates name eludes me) them on.

That's Duncan Hunter....great guy.

116 DesertSage  5/31/08 7:51:40 pm reply quote 5

1/2 votes for those in FL and MI.
All Democrats are equal, it's just that some Democrats are more equal than others.

117 blue_like_jazz  5/31/08 7:51:41 pm reply quote 5

i read the article and, truth be told, it made me kind of sick.

not because i'm in any way a hillary supporter, but the manipulative and condescending spirit behind their "kind offer" is almost suffocating in its arrogance.

"there, there, hillary... just lay down for the good of the party. we'll give you an inconsequential spot in the new administration and even pay off your debt, you poor thing."


//barf


may he choke on his hubris.

118 ploome hineni  5/31/08 7:52:00 pm reply quote 5

..watching Obama on tv, delivering speeches, responding to questions in interviews

is he smart enough to maneuver this?

I will say, the press, even FOX does the heavy lifting for Obama

they read into his non answers the apologies and repudiations he never makes

and his style of responding is almost hypnotic

119 ccrnyc  5/31/08 7:52:05 pm reply quote 0

Hill should never quit.

120 MrArchieBunker  5/31/08 7:52:23 pm reply quote 2

Clinton Supporter Thrown Out of Rules Committee Meeting: [Link: www.youtube.com...] Oh man, its breaking down...

121 Bob in Breckenridge  5/31/08 7:52:45 pm reply quote 0

re: #97 Grammy Cracker

WOOT! Red Wings win game 4....

Come on home, Stanley!

Great game! Osgood got lucky during the last 30 second Penguins rush. Pittsburgh had a lot of shots from inside 20 feet, but they kept hitting Rde Wings before getting to Osgood.

122 Oh no...Sand People!  5/31/08 7:52:51 pm reply quote 1

re: #117 blue_like_jazz

i read the article and, truth be told, it made me kind of sick.

not because i'm in any way a hillary supporter, but the manipulative and condescending spirit behind their "kind offer" is almost suffocating in its arrogance.

"there, there, hillary... just lay down for the good of the party. we'll give you an inconsequential spot in the new administration and even pay off your debt, you poor thing."


//barf


may he choke on his hubris waffle.

/fixed.

123 Dark_Falcon  5/31/08 7:53:37 pm reply quote 0

re: #103 jollypigeon

I think today was a big day for Hillary. I am not saying she is going to win, but she lives to fight another day. They negotiated to seat half the delegates and that raised the total number of delegates now needed to secure the nomination. Obama can't declare victory on Tuesday. Anybody want to bet that unaffiliated (wink, wink) democrats in both states are now going to litigate for the remaining half? She now can argue that she won the popular vote. Why would she quit now? What superdelegates wants to be known as the person that killed her campaign? And lo and behold, the Pastor issue is back. Who knows how much more Obama is going to to get dusted up betweeen now and the convention. Two plus months is an eternity in politics-she can't quit.

Very true. Run, Hills, run! The longer she stays in, the better our chances are. If she goes kicking and screaming, it should leave the Dems too fractured to win.

124 pat  5/31/08 7:53:42 pm reply quote 9

re: #66 opnion

Hmmm. I think we shall see. An interesting observation. I hope you are right.
re: #69 ciaospirit

Mis use of words there. Obama is enormously likable from the perspective of the rooting section. Black underdog, educated, articulate, and apparently personally a nice guy. All Americans can root for a guy like that. But this man harbors demons. And in addition to belonging to a racist voodoo cult/church, he is simply ignorant about virtually everything. I mean this guy knows nothing. An International Relations major that knows nothing about the subject, a lawyer that never practiced law. A 'community activist".An empty suit.

125 Oh no...Sand People!  5/31/08 7:53:44 pm reply quote 0

re: #115 Grammy Cracker

I knew it started with a 'D'. Thanks Grammy.

126 nigella  5/31/08 7:53:52 pm reply quote 0

pimf "crisis. Sorry, but I am tired of this whole wah wah mentality.

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127 acapesket123  5/31/08 7:53:58 pm reply quote 0