And here we see Obama, making his transformation into the post-Christian candidate.

Nothing to see here, please move along....

We're surprised that the AP would leave out unflattering details?

Next leg of his spiritual journey, he watches the 1970's TV movie Roots. And starts to investigate the faith of his fathers .......

A pity to see such weasel words. Even more of a pity to see such weasel-like behavior.

I don't find myself surprised at all, though.

“I’m not denouncing the church and I’m not interested in people who want me to denounce the church,” he said, adding that the new pastor at Trinity and “the church have been suffering from the attention my campaign has focused on them.”

Uh, that's called reaping what you sow.

Well, you can't expect the AP to report a whole quote, can you?
Are they a news group?

re: #1 mama winger

And here we see Obama, making his transformation into the post-Christian candidate.

Perhaps -- there is a big wing of the party that he would have to be "post-Christian" to court. Then again, that same sort find something delightfully quaint about Black "spirituality," so it wouldn't have made any difference among the hard-core "post Christian" left.

BTW, I recently learned that the whole "broom jumping" thing in marriage is actually a Welsh custom.

“I’m not denouncing the church and I’m not interested in people who want me to denounce the church,” he said, adding that the new pastor at Trinity and “the church have been suffering from the attention my campaign has focused on them.”

Er, the church has been suffering because of the racist, hateful rantings of it's pastor... although, I suppose you, Obama, are a little responsible for the light shining on them right now. It's tough when your little hateful secrets are exposed.

in the aftermath of inflammatory remarks by his longtime pastor the Rev. Jeremiah Wright and more recent fiery remarks at the church by another minister.

This tries to paint it as a new thing.

re: #5 Dianna

A pity to see such weasel words. Even more of a pity to see such weasel-like behavior.

Not weasel -- "mink"

Did he simply preempt the church?

re: #8 Lucius Septimius

Perhaps -- there is a big wing of the party that he would have to be "post-Christian" to court. Then again, that same sort find something delightfully quaint about Black "spirituality," so it wouldn't have made any difference among the hard-core "post Christian" left.

BTW, I recently learned that the whole "broom jumping" thing in marriage is actually a Welsh custom.

He could also court the Black population that is NOI.

Welsh, eh ? Funny. :)

I can't wait 'til he has to throw Michelle under the bus. That's gonna be awkward.

Barack's chickenzzz. . . . are comin' home to roost!

“I’m not denouncing the church and I’m not interested in people who want me to denounce the church,” he said, adding that the new pastor at Trinity and “the church have been suffering from the attention my campaign has focused on them.”

Where's the wahmbulance?

re: #14 Ward Cleaver

I can't wait 'til he has to throw Michelle under the bus. That's gonna be awkward.

For the first time in MY adult life, I am proud of the Democrat party.

Maybe I'm crazy, but there are 80,000+ dead from a cyclone in Burma, 90,000+ dead from an earthquake in China, and all the "mainstream" media can talk about for weeks and months is the US election?

These are the biggest stories this year.

re: #14 Ward Cleaver

I can't wait 'til he has to throw Michelle under the bus. That's gonna be awkward.

With the grip she has his "lizard" that might be a tad difficult to do. Stupid she ain't.

re: #14 Ward Cleaver

I can't wait 'til he has to throw Michelle under the bus. That's gonna be awkward.

She'll whack him with her waffle iron.

“We had reporters grabbing church bulletins and calling up the sick and the shut-in,” he said.

Damn reporters "hounding people" in order to determine the truth. If I had a whacked out Priest spouting nonsense and a reporter called me, would I be able to claim I was being "hounded"?
Another very bad symptom of a pathology.

"because it is a church not worth denouncing"

This guy is really out there.

"It's clear that now that I'm a candidate for president, every time something is said in the church by anyone associated with Trinity, inlcuding guest pastors, the remarks will imputed to me even if they totally conflict with my longheld views, statements and principles," he said.

Yeah, right, Tommy Boy. Why can't these urinalist dolts just admit that the Obama sat there in a pew in that 'church' for 20 years, found nothing wrong with its message until it got onto the 'net, leaves said 'church', but still thinks his 'church' is not wrong. That the only problem with his 'church' is that now he is running for Grand Poobah President and xreates too many distractions.

As has been said many times, it really is unbelievable how far the Obama has gotten this campaigning season. I'm now convinced that calling The Obama an empty suit is an insult to tailors everywhere.

Many presidents and presidential candidates have given up attending church because of the disruption it caused their congregations. However, I do not recall anyone ever deciding to cancel their church membership over it. He could have simply decided not to attend anymore.

I myself and not concerned about the usual AP bias here. You can be sure the RNC's file on Obama just keeps getting bigger and bigger everyday, and come September you can be sure we will all be seeing the video of him saying "it is not a church worthy of denouncing" many many times. Keep it up Obama, you seem like the gift that just keeps on giving.

re: #22 kyros

"because it is a church not worth denouncing"

This guy is really out there.

Is he saying overall that it's a good church that doesn't deserve the scorn or, that it's so bad that it's beneath contempt?

re: #1 mama winger

And here we see Obama, making his transformation into the post-Christian candidate.

* * *
Sorry you think there was Christianity happening in that strange house of "worship." The videos looked more like a crazy Munich beer hall with power crazy drunks giving speeches, than any church I've known.

Now that he's officially leaving, he's free to join his buddy Farakhan and the muslim brotherhood.

I can't imagine why the same news organization which routinely covers up the atrocities perpetrated by Muslim terrorists- particularly Palestinian terrorists, would feel the need to cover up for Obama.

re: #26 MandyManners

Is he saying overall that it's a good church that doesn't deserve the scorn or, that it's so bad that it's beneath contempt?

Hes saying its the MSM and all of us who are making a big stink out of nothing, and he has no reason to denounce the church. He is leaving them so they can no longer be under the microscope.

re: #18 William

Maybe I'm crazy, but there are 80,000+ dead from a cyclone in Burma, 90,000+ dead from an earthquake in China, and all the "mainstream" media can talk about for weeks and months is the US election?

These are the biggest stories this year.

The difference is that we as Americans can have very little effect on the two instances you cited. There is little we can do to alter the situation.

We can however alter this one.

re: #11 Lucius Septimius

Minks are a kind of weasel, aren't they?

re: #30 Sizzlack

Hes saying its the MSM and all of us who are making a big stink out of nothing, and he has no reason to denounce the church. He is leaving them so they can no longer be under the microscope.

That's my take.

re: #27 alegrias

* * *
Sorry you think there was Christianity happening in that strange house of "worship." The videos looked more like a crazy Munich beer hall with power crazy drunks giving speeches, than any church I've known.

Oh, I don't think this church preached the Gospel. What I am saying is that this is an opportunity for Obama to make his break with Christianity, appeal to the post-Christian element of his party, and leave himself open to return to islam.

re: #34 savage_nation

Meaning Islam!

bingo

re: #33 MandyManners

That's my take.

And when the majority of rational America grasps that...hes going to be in some hot water.

And the night has come full circle. When will he give up and sit down to finish his waffelling.

/yeah I am stretching,
//and I am out of here time to go home

"Fears" grow that Obama can't win!
[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

Well Not sure if I would use the term "Fears"!

... Can't wait for the counter from his church.

"With sadness we declare Obama an apostate in our fellowship because of his association with known liars, thieves and ... uh ... Democrats."

re: #24 mama winger

Many presidents and presidential candidates have given up attending church because of the disruption it caused their congregations.

Would you have any specifics at all about that.....?

Anybody else see the link at Instapundit to Larry Johnson's claim that the other shoe is about to drop on Obama? No word until 0900 tomorrow when a video of Michelle O's Whitey Problem will be posted. Larry Johnson claims this video could be Obama's biggest headache yet. Charles, any idea what this is?

His quotes are much shorter once you edit out the um's.

re: #23 RickZ

No, it's an extreme compliment. The suit's so good, no one's looking at the man wearing it.

re: #18 William

Maybe I'm crazy, but there are 80,000+ dead from a cyclone in Burma, 90,000+ dead from an earthquake in China, and all the "mainstream" media can talk about for weeks and months is the US election?

These are the biggest stories this year.

* * *
Relax, what's there to talk about? As our elites and intellectual media tell us, communists and totalitarians are in control of those countries, they have single-payer health care, no one's ripping off the little people.

Communists will provide for everyone, according to their needs.

(I am being sarcastic and bitter, because millions are dying and suffering under these corrupt communist louts)

re: #24 mama winger

Many presidents and presidential candidates have given up attending church because of the disruption it caused their congregations. However, I do not recall anyone ever deciding to cancel their church membership over it. He could have simply decided not to attend anymore.

I wonder if we'll hear a slow transition toward Islam? Like mentioning that Jesus was 'one of the great prophets'. I guess we'll have to wait until January to find out, like he promised.
[clunk]

Lunatic escapes asylum. Declares himself cured.

re: #41 Ma Sands

Would you have any specifics at all about that.....?

Ronald Reagan made that choice too. He rarely attended church while he was President because of the disruption it caused.

So what church will he go to now? Or will he not go at all?

He is so full of crap. He spent 20 years there, lapping it all up and saying, "Amen!", and now that the light has been turned on the cockroaches, he casts them off. The guy has no principles.

“because it is not a church worthy of denouncing”

No, Barack, it is a church not worthy of any presidential candidate's attendance.

re: #48 pat

Lunatic escapes asylum. Declares himself cured.

Very nice. :)

re: #37 Sizzlack

And when the majority of rational America grasps that...hes going to be in some hot water.

Will they have the chance to grasp it? This has all happened on a weekend.

re: #27 alegrias

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Sorry you think there was Christianity happening in that strange house of "worship." The videos looked more like a crazy Munich beer hall with power crazy drunks giving speeches, than any church I've known.

What Mama winger was trying to say is that the mega-lib left would rather have a candidate who is non Christian (no matter how he got to that point) as opposed to a candidate of faith.

Whether they were preaching 'Christianity' in the church or not is irrelevant, the fact that they called themselves Church Of Christ is all that matters.

Wonder what today's pulpit rant was about?

re: #49 mama winger

Really! Well, thanks. It sounds reasonable.....but I never thought of it before.

re: #18 William

Maybe I'm crazy, but there are 80,000+ dead from a cyclone in Burma, 90,000+ dead from an earthquake in China, and all the "mainstream" media can talk about for weeks and months is the US election?

These are the biggest stories this year.

That may be true, but the media is unable to blame those calamities on Bush; hence, less coverage.

re: #24 mama winger

Many presidents and presidential candidates have given up attending church because of the disruption it caused their congregations. However, I do not recall anyone ever deciding to cancel their church membership over it. He could have simply decided not to attend anymore.

Well the story has always been that he only joined that particular church in order to increase his "street cred" in Chicago, and even then it was considered to have certain risks -- some people thought the church too "buppified." Regardless, it was a calculated political decision. Likewise his association with that Pfleger nitwit (where is the Inquisition when you need it?)

It won't hurt him among blacks, since they'll spin this as the "oh poor pitiful we; oppressed by the evil White establishment a Black man is forced to sell his birthright for his mess o' political potage, but he's still our man cuz once he's in power he'll whoop up on the oppressors." At the same time, thoughtful voters of any race will have to pause for a moment and wonder about his willingness to toss aside things like religion and family. And more will be tossed aside. Bill Ahlers has got to go at some point; likewise Pfleger (I sense he's already gone).

The more he tosses, the more difficult it will be to maintain the aura (and that's all it's ever been) that he is "different" from other politicians; remember that at the beginning he said the whole problem with politics was cynicism. His actions increasingly reveal him to be the most cynical man in America.

re: #55 pat

"The Virtue of Loyalty"
/

Wayne: We're not worthy!
Garth: Party on, Wayne.

re: #42 Capitalistincharge

Anybody else see the link at Instapundit to Larry Johnson's claim that the other shoe is about to drop on Obama? No word until 0900 tomorrow when a video of Michelle O's Whitey Problem will be posted. Larry Johnson claims this video could be Obama's biggest headache yet. Charles, any idea what this is?

The link wasn't working last I checked.

Johnson's hinted at a tape of Michelle Obama in the pulpit at Trinity screaming about Whitey.

re: #32 Dianna

Minks are a kind of weasel, aren't they?

But prettier! And it sounds so much better, no?

re: #57 JammieWearingFool
don't hold your breath

“because it is not a church worthy of denouncing:”

Add it to the list for McCain ads October/November.

re: #39 Nevergiveup

"Fears" grow that Obama can't win!
[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

Well Not sure if I would use the term "Fears"!

Heh. The choice to use the term "fears" is telling, isn't it?

re: #53 MandyManners

Will they have the chance to grasp it? This has all happened on a weekend.

Like I said earlier, the RNC is just sitting back and letting their Obama file get bigger and bigger without having to do any work. Rational America might not grasp it this weekend, but you can be sure we will see this speech many times in a variety of commercials that will air before the election. The RNC wont let a 'Flip Flop' of this magnitude pass them by.

re: #46 alegrias

Every time I think about Burma and China, I start shaking. I'm furious, too.

And if I hear one more of those smarmy Unicef ads, I'm going to throw something.

re: #36 mama winger

bingo

And any mosque he joined would be immune from criticism, because of "diversity".

re: #58 Lucius Septimius

Well the story has always been that he only joined that particular church in order to increase his "street cred" in Chicago, and even then it was considered to have certain risks -- some people thought the church too "buppified." Regardless, it was a calculated political decision. Likewise his association with that Pfleger nitwit (where is the Inquisition when you need it?)

It won't hurt him among blacks, since they'll spin this as the "oh poor pitiful we; oppressed by the evil White establishment a Black man is forced to sell his birthright for his mess o' political potage, but he's still our man cuz once he's in power he'll whoop up on the oppressors." At the same time, thoughtful voters of any race will have to pause for a moment and wonder about his willingness to toss aside things like religion and family. And more will be tossed aside. Bill Ahlers has got to go at some point; likewise Pfleger (I sense he's already gone).

The more he tosses, the more difficult it will be to maintain the aura (and that's all it's ever been) that he is "different" from other politicians; remember that at the beginning he said the whole problem with politics was cynicism. His actions increasingly reveal him to be the most cynical man in America.

Spot on!

Once again, it is all about "ME" for Mr. Obama (and I do not mean the Middle East!)

He now thinks he is so important that the sick and shut-ins are being bothered because of him. He is really not as "articulate" as the press would have people believe.

Mr. Obama is just not a strong principled man, nor do I feel like he is honest. I just love how the press like to jump all over President Bush for being egotistical. They are all willing to put a halo around BHO's head and a bullet through GWB's head.

Besides, who knew you had to send a letter of resignation to quit attending a church? Will he get severance pay?

re: #66 Sizzlack

Like I said earlier, the RNC is just sitting back and letting their Obama file get bigger and bigger without having to do any work. Rational America might not grasp it this weekend, but you can be sure we will see this speech many times in a variety of commercials that will air before the election. The RNC wont let a 'Flip Flop' of this magnitude pass them by.

Will Sen. McCain let them?

re: #57 JammieWearingFool

sweet.

re: #58 Lucius Septimius

I agree. I think when Obama came to Chicago as an outsider, he joined a church that would give him guaranteed access to the agitators in the black community. TUCC was the biggest name out there. He was trying to prove he was a black man rather than a white man. The whole "is he black enough?" thing.

TUCC got him accepted into the community as a black man. It radicalized him when that was what he needed. Now that he needs to play to the middle, he has to blow off the radical black image and appear more mainstream.

Cynical politician. Useful tool.

re: #72 MandyManners

Will Sen. McCain let them?

Whether he likes it or not, it will happen.

re: #42 Capitalistincharge

Anybody else see the link at Instapundit to Larry Johnson's claim that the other shoe is about to drop on Obama? No word until 0900 tomorrow when a video of Michelle O's Whitey Problem will be posted. Larry Johnson claims this video could be Obama's biggest headache yet. Charles, any idea what this is?

Larry "Bad Rug" Johnson is usually full of crap, but he might be onto something here.

re: #61 JammieWearingFool
Thanks, wonder why we haven't seen it before this if it exists. If true this will be the ultimate hole in Obama's boat. Maybe Hill's peeps have had it and knew they would release before June 3. Hmmmm...Now I have to ask, who is Larry Johnson and is he connected to Hillery.

They (the Democrats) have had months to vet this guy and the press refuse to do it. They report only the gaffes they have to and minimize them. I can't wait until he announces his VP. If they can't vet their choice for Prez, what skeletons will the VP have? I can't wait until he has to throw whoever it is under the bus. That will be awkward but the press will keep playing to his victim hood because of all the hopeyness and changyness. The convention will be a mess. I'm on pins and needles!

The RNC hasn't even thrown anything at Obama yet and he is already stuttering and twisting in the wind. It's only gonna get more tough and stressful from here on out. Which bodes very well for McCain, who comes across as far more authentic than Obama at this point.

re: #62 Lucius Septimius

I think you're right!

You know, of course, that sables are ferrets, and vair and ermine are also furs from weasels and ferrets?

re: #67 Dianna

Every time I think about Burma and China, I start shaking. I'm furious, too.

And if I hear one more of those smarmy Unicef ads, I'm going to throw something.

UNICEF sucks. I won't give to them, because they promote abortion.

Big fire at Universal City backlot, King Kong ride destroyed, also seems to have consumed most of a video vault.

[Link: abclocal.go.com...]

Another Obama halo pic.

I like this one too...

Democratic presidential candidate and Senator Barack Obama ooks through a kaleidoscope at a gift shop in Rapid City, South Dakota May 31, 2008.

"ooks". Heh.

re: #50 Ward Cleaver

A DC church.

re: #74 mama winger

I met someone who had attended that church for a while when he was in Chicago -- it is really pretty upscale despite the trappings. He got to know Obama while he was there, and after mulling it over, voted for Hillary.

[Link: hotair.com...]

re: #80 Dianna

I think you're right!

You know, of course, that sables are ferrets, and vair and ermine are also furs from weasels and ferrets?

And Wolverines are big ass weasels with nasty tempers.

re: #87 Lucius Septimius

I actually think the whole weasel branch of the carnivore family is pretty interesting -- wide range of really cool animals there.

re: #85 Lucius Septimius

I met someone who had attended that church for a while when he was in Chicago -- it is really pretty upscale despite the trappings. He got to know Obama while he was there, and after mulling it over, voted for Hillary.

Interesting ...... I at one time contemplated a drive down there for a Sunday morning service, but I just couldn't bring myself to do it.

re: #75 Sizzlack

Whether he likes it or not, it will happen.

One can be nice only so much and so long.

re: #86 yochanan

did they allow drinking in there?/

re: #67 Dianna

Every time I think about Burma and China, I start shaking. I'm furious, too.

And if I hear one more of those smarmy Unicef ads, I'm going to throw something.

* * *
Billions of people are condemned to horrible existence by the democrats' blind "faith" in communism, collectivism, mullah-cracy, etc. One the communists take over, democrats wash their hands of these people and move on to target another American ally, or the American body politic itself.

Democrats & Carter let millions of Cambodians die in Pol Pot's regime, after we left Vietnam, because it was more important to abandon friends and principle than save lives.

Millions have died in the Middle East because Carter let the SHah's regime give way to a WORSE totalitarian regime.

re: #89 mama winger

That would be a heck of a drive.

re: #79 Sizzlack

Authentic, I don't know about. But he sure comes across as tougher, and more thoughtful.

I have appreciated his whacks at Obama's foreign policy notions. They've been marvellous and accurate.

re: #83 Killgore Trout

Another Obama halo pic.

I like this one too...

"ooks". Heh.

All these halo photographs must be planned and staged. I can understand a campaign doing so but, not the press.

I went to a Catholic church from birth to the sage of 17-18. I was confirmed, while in a state of confusion about religion, so that my parents wouldn't freak out. I recall broaching the subject to my father...cautiously, that maybe I wasn't ready to be confirmed. Heh, anyways.

Regardless of my present lack of faith, I attended a church that 95% of the time preached positive sermons. There was nothing about politics, there was nothing about pop-culture...just moral lessons and stories designed to instill faith in Jesus. The only time I ever disagreed was when it came down to homosexuality, because the few homosexuals that I knew didn't seem to fit the whole "abomination" rap, and they each claimed a lack of freedom of choice in their status. My thinking then: if homosexuality is morally wrong then why does God make homosexuals?

So, I left the church over one (at the time) disagreement that I could not find a satisfying answer for. One disagreement that to me put into question the validity of everything else (not the wisdom mind you). Obama...as a grown man...has left a church that supposedly goes against all of his core beliefs...after 20 years and only when it became politically expediant.

I'm calling complete bullshit.

The MSM... what they don`t report is as powerful as what they do distort report.

re: #83 Killgore Trout

Another Obama halo pic.

Oh, brother. They just can't help themselves, can they? blech.

re: #81 Ward Cleaver

I won't give to them because the money vanishes into the pockets of bureaucrats and never reaches the people it's supposed to be helping.

Well I've got no excuse for my ignorance on this, having already had two cups of coffee, but is the line “It’s not a church worthy of denouncing.”
what the fuss is all about?!

re: #96 DeathtotheSwiss

Great post.

re: #77 Capitalistincharge

Thanks, wonder why we haven't seen it before this if it exists. If true this will be the ultimate hole in Obama's boat. Maybe Hill's peeps have had it and knew they would release before June 3. Hmmmm...Now I have to ask, who is Larry Johnson and is he connected to Hillery.

Larry Johnson.

His site is generally held in disrepute. I had an episode with someone from there recently. SInce I have no use for Obama and they have no use for Obama, they sought to collaborate. Took one of my Obama posts and ran it verbatim.

re: #95 MandyManners

Here's another one. These are so common they are surely doing it intentionally.

re: #92 alegrias

* * *
Billions of people are condemned to horrible existence by the democrats' blind "faith" in communism, collectivism, mullah-cracy, etc. One the communists take over, democrats wash their hands of these people and move on to target another American ally, or the American body politic itself.

Democrats & Carter let millions of Cambodians die in Pol Pot's regime, after we left Vietnam, because it was more important to abandon friends and principle than save lives.

Millions have died in the Middle East because Carter let the SHah's regime give way to a WORSE totalitarian regime.

Never forget the cardinal rule of the leftist:

Ideas are more important than people.

The purity of the ideology is more important than the lives of individual people since, in the long run of history, the pure ideology will bring the greatest benefits to the greatest numbers. Short term losses are tolerable, and in fact necessary, to actualize the ideology and secure the "common good."

Shuttle launched with the spare toilet pump!

re: #100 realwest

Well I've got no excuse for my ignorance on this, having already had two cups of coffee, but is the line “It’s not a church worthy of denouncing.” what the fuss is all about?!

It sounds like another gaffe the MSM is covering up.

re: #94 Dianna

Authentic, I don't know about. But he sure comes across as tougher, and more thoughtful.

I have appreciated his whacks at Obama's foreign policy notions. They've been marvellous and accurate.

I was not trying to suggest that McCain is an authentic person in general. Just more so than Obama given the current state of affairs. I don't know how anyone could call Obama authentic after he said he could not divorce himself from his pastor or church, but within two months did so to both. All McCain has to do in that situation is frown and he comes across as more authentic IMO.

re: #76 Ward Cleaver

Larry "Bad Rug" Johnson is usually full of crap, but he might be onto something here.

I saw that earlier this morning. It's actually gatewaypundit coming up with the goods, I think.

re: #103 Killgore Trout

Here's another one. These are so common they are surely doing it intentionally.

*gag*

re: #88 Lucius Septimius

I think so, too.

re: #79 Sizzlack

Did you notice yesterday he was very sweaty and nervous. The press was not letting the church thing go even though he wanted to change the subject terribly.

He got testy with the press and I think this is an indication of the lack of scrutiny he has received in the past. He can't handle the truth, and is not expecting to be called on it. I am sure he has had a free pass his whole life. How did he get into Harvard with mediocre grades?
Maybe this can explain Michelle's (and Obama's) disdain for this country. People who don't have to work for anything are miserable and ungrateful for what they have.

re: #103 Killgore Trout

Here's another one. These are so common they are surely doing it intentionally.

I wonder if the same photographer is going with him from town to town?

“the church I have been suffering from the attention my campaign church has focused on them me.”

I think this is probably more accurate.

re: #101 mama winger

Thank you, that's an honor coming from you.

re: #103 Killgore Trout

Here's another one. These are so common they are surely doing it intentionally.

Well yeah ...

Amazing the way in which the secular Left feels the need to resurrect (as it were) messianic ideas.

re: #92 alegrias

We're preaching to the choir, but, yes.

The backroom deals must've been flyin' everywhere at the DNC 1/2 man contest. One of the demands must've been for Obama to fix this little church problem image thingy, wonder what else will come out in the next couple of days. Interesting times. Clinton dreams schemes. Walk softly and carry a Big Mile High Club.

re: #111 bellamags

And just think that if he acts like this now, what can we expect from him when McCain goes to town on him over Iraq and foreign policy? I almost expect Obama to just scream "Shut the F up old man!".

re: #111 bellamags

Did you notice yesterday he was very sweaty and nervous. The press was not letting the church thing go even though he wanted to change the subject terribly.

He got testy with the press and I think this is an indication of the lack of scrutiny he has received in the past. He can't handle the truth, and is not expecting to be called on it. I am sure he has had a free pass his whole life. How did he get into Harvard with mediocre grades?
Maybe this can explain Michelle's (and Obama's) disdain for this country. People who don't have to work for anything are miserable and ungrateful for what they have.

I wonder how he'll react in a debate with Sen. McCain.

re: #117 mikeinmd

The backroom deals must've been flyin' everywhere at the DNC 1/2 man contest. One of the demands must've been for Obama to fix this little church problem image thingy, wonder what else will come out in the next couple of days. Interesting times. Clinton dreams schemes. Walk softly and carry a Big Mile High Club.

Who are you calling half a man, Obama or Hillary?

/heh

re: #119 MandyManners

haha we had the same thought at the same time

re: #119 MandyManners

I wonder how he'll react in a debate with Sen. McCain.

I'd like to see them debate in the same format as Sarkozy and Royal did -- sitting across a table from one another, no more than three feet apart.

Well, this is the first thing I've heard come out of his mouth that finally makes sense. You're right, Mr. Obama, the chuch isn't worthy of denunciation. What's unfortunate is it took you so long, and the pressure of trying to win over White Hillary Democrats, that brought you to that conclusion.

You are what you are. If you think saying what we think you think what we want to hear is going to sway our opinion of you; you're sorely misguided.

re: #119 MandyManners

he'll say, "mccain's an old white man"

Not "worthy of denouncing"? OK.......

This guy is out of control, I mean totally off his rocker. This event, combined with last night's Meetings of the Central Committee of the Politburo, over the delegates, demonstrates how out of control the DNC and the DP really is.

It is now the status quo to throw your constituencies under the bus, whether they are from Michigan, Florida, or Central Chicago.

That's the radical left for ya.........

re: #122 Sizzlack

haha we had the same thought at the same time

I usually don't watch debates but, I'm looking forward to that.

re: #121 itellu3times

Who are you calling half a man, Obama or Hillary?

/heh

I'm thinking...

re: #107 Sizzlack I'd give you ten updings for that post if I could!

obama may not feel mccain is worthy of a debate

re: #123 Lucius Septimius

I'd like to see them debate in the same format as Sarkozy and Royal did -- sitting across a table from one another, no more than three feet apart.

That'd suck for his narcissism.

re: #79 Sizzlack

The RNC hasn't even thrown anything at Obama yet and he is already stuttering and twisting in the wind. It's only gonna get more tough and stressful from here on out. Which bodes very well for McCain, who comes across as far more authentic than Obama at this point.

Yes, but McCain will disavow the RNC or any state party throws at Obama, and Obama will whine which seems to sit pretty well with the MSM.

re: #118 Sizzlack

I agree. I do not think that Obama can handle serious pressure. He will resort to bitter attacks and charges of "Bush III" regarding McCain.

In Obama's case it is not "the Emperor has no clothes", but "the clothes have no Emperor".

re: #100 realwest

Well I've got no excuse for my ignorance on this, having already had two cups of coffee, but is the line “It’s not a church worthy of denouncing.”
what the fuss is all about?!

Well, first, perhaps it was another misspeak on Obama's part. Which he could have released a statement to clarify.
The press, in my opinion, both realizes that he probably did not mean those words, but instead of a follow up question or mentioning it to Obama HQ to fix, has decided to edit out the words. Proof that the MSM is in bed with him.

re: #131 MandyManners

That'd suck for his narcissism.

yeppers -- that's one reason I'd like to see it.

re: #125 phoenixgirl

he'll say, "mccain's an old white man"

That'll piss off more than a few people.

re: #130 phoenixgirl

obama may not feel mccain is worthy of a debate

Obama is not worthy to be president.

“I’m not denouncing the church, and I’m not interested in people who want me to denounce the church,” he said in response to a question. “It’s not a church worthy of denouncing.”

It is interesting that this comment can be read two ways. Either the church is beneath contempt, or it is not deserving of denunciation.

And here I thought he was going to go with, "I can no more denounce this church than I could denounce the entire Christian faith."

he is a supreme user of people.
it's pathological. (throwing his granny under the bus proves it.)

re: #103 Killgore Trout

Kilgore, those halos are not there when the photographer snaps the picture. Due to some unknown spiritual phenomena, they show up later. Hence, B-Ho is the messiah.

/

re: #135 Lucius Septimius

yeppers -- that's one reason I'd like to see it.

Talk about a squirmin' worm!

re: #136 savage_nation

Will the debate end up like this one?

I'd thought of that one too. And. yes, given that both have tempers, it could.

“I’m not denouncing the church and I’m not interested in people who want me to denounce the church,” he said, adding that the new pastor at Trinity and “the church have been suffering from the attention my campaign has focused on them.”

What he really is saying:

"I'm distancing myself from the message of the church because it's politically expedient to do so, but I'm not going to trash the whole church because I don't want to piss off the members because I need them to vote for me."

Barack Obama, the post "post-politics" politician.

Happy Sunday mornin' to all, btw.

re: #107 Sizzlack

I was not trying to suggest that McCain is an authentic person in general. Just more so than Obama given the current state of affairs. I don't know how anyone could call Obama authentic after he said he could not divorce himself from his pastor or church, but within two months did so to both. All McCain has to do in that situation is frown and he comes across as more authentic IMO.

* * *
McCain took beatings and torture for remaining true to his US military code of honor, and for what it stands--our countyr--for as long as a human being tortured, starved, denied medical attention & dignity could stand.

What is more authentic than taking torture for being a proud American?

What is telling is clinging to anti-Americans, America haters, and racists.

re: #133 HippieforLife

I agree. I do not think that Obama can handle serious pressure. He will resort to bitter attacks and charges of "Bush III" regarding McCain.

In Obama's case it is not "the Emperor has no clothes", but "the clothes have no Emperor".

He can call McCain the third Bush term all he wants. All McCain has to do is say he is the second Carter term. So if it came down to voting for Jimmy Carter or George Bush, well....I sure as hell know who I would vote for.

re: #103 Killgore Trout
Well, "halo" or not, he sure as hell looks self-satisfied (and frankly - given all that he's had to overcome, namely himself, to get to where he is, he should look self-satisfied).

I watched CNN for about 20 minutes this morning.. Unity Unite Uniting Uniter Unity Uniting United Uniter Unity Uniting..

Over and over.. I guess they all got the talking point memo, all the hosts and guests made great effort to work it into almost every sentence.

Everywhere, USA (AP) It is reported that there are some who have the effrontery (or "the lack of patriotism") to criticize the next president of the United States! Drastic measures are needed. Film at eleven.

re: #139 mikeysdca

“I’m not denouncing the church, and I’m not interested in people who want me to denounce the church,” he said in response to a question. “It’s not a church worthy of denouncing.”

It is interesting that this comment can be read two ways. Either the church is beneath contempt, or it is not deserving of denunciation.

I'm going with Sizzlack and believe the latter.

There is nothing new about Obama's politics. He's just a fresh, young face of the same old warmed over mega-liberal Socialist ideology.

Let him eat his waffle.

re: #105 Roger

Shuttle launched with the spare toilet pump!

Yay! Go go go, you intergalactic plumbers!

re: #147 Sizzlack

That would be a very easy decision!

re: #146 alegrias

I agree, and I hope the RNC makes an issue out of that too. Touting ones honored military service to our country can only help your cause in the quest for POTUS. It will be very difficult for Obama to lob any type of attack on that.

re: #139 mikeysdca

“I’m not denouncing the church, and I’m not interested in people who want me to denounce the church,” he said in response to a question. “It’s not a church worthy of denouncing.”

It is interesting that this comment can be read two ways. Either the church is beneath contempt, or it is not deserving of denunciation.

Yeah, but I think it's more a case of, "Engage brain before putting mouth in gear."

“the church have been suffering from the attention my campaign has focused on them.”

victimology 101.

it’s not a church worthy of denouncing:”

Neither are you worthy of electing.

re: #154 Intrepid

Yay! Go go go, you intergalactic plumbers!

And something to help you along while you're in orbit.

re: #136 savage_nation

Dayum. I hadn't seen that one. Thanks.

The albatross is coming home to roost!

Uncharitable comment

i be michelle is getting nervous.

drive-by

“There is a cultural, a stylistic gap,” Mr. Obama said, between the tradition of some black churches and some white churches.

The ministers’ words, torn from their context, can detonate politically, he said.

It appears Mr. Barack Obama is again saying the ministers' words are being taken out of context?

re: #154 Intrepid

re: #105 Roger

Shuttle launched with the spare toilet pump!

Yay! Go go go, you intergalactic plumbers!

And I thought that the last plumber's house call I paid for was expensive!

re: #163 nyc redneck

i be michelle is getting nervous.

She's burned more than one waffle.

re: #164 unrealizedviewpoint

drive-by

It appears Mr. Barack Obama is again saying the ministers' words are being taken out of context?

Yep. Don't listen to our lying ears!

re: #166 MandyManners

She's burned more than one waffle.

she loved that hate church.

i'm concerned with his dismissive attitude towards those who want him to denounce the church

"Waffles for all"

re: #123 Lucius Septimius

The problem with that is that when Obama lunges for his throat, McCain can't protect himself.

re: #163 nyc redneck

i be michelle is getting nervous.

No just angry and resentful. So much for having any reason to be proud of America. Camelot was lovely, but back to the grim reality of life in evil white racists Amerikkka.

re: #156 Sizzlack

I agree, and I hope the RNC makes an issue out of that too. Touting ones honored military service to our country can only help your cause in the quest for POTUS. It will be very difficult for Obama to lob any type of attack on that.

* * *
Wish everyone agreed!

Obama has twenty years of militancy! That's honorable in their book.

John Kerry tried to put his military record as a band aid over his militancy, and it worked for democrats.

They "Report[ing] for duty" to undermine our military, our strength, our best values of courage, determination to win & defend rights we cherish as self-evident truths.

re: #165 ErnieG

And I thought that the last plumber's house call I paid for was expensive!

Will this plumbing repair be without the obligatory ass crack feature?

re: #144 Lucius Septimius Frankly I'd rather see it turn out to be Buckley v. Vidal, Dem convention 1968, with McCain taking on the William F. Buckley Jr. (RIP) role!
But I have a STRONG suspicion that Obama won't debate McCain and the MSM will play that out as the parties could not agree on the format or where or when or some other nonsense. Obama is, IMO, a hateful and hate filled person, but STUPID he isn't - he knows McCain will show America just what Obama is.

re: #172 Dianna

The problem with that is that when Obama lunges for his throat, McCain can't protect himself.

I'm sure McCain can take him.

"I killed a man with this thumb."

re: #172 Dianna

The problem with that is that when Obama lunges for his throat, McCain can't protect himself.

The statesman McCain will then morph into the politician. No worries.

I'm not normally a believer in conspiracy theories. However, folks we are being played like a fiddle by Obama and his propaganda machine. Notice we haven't head from Rev Wright since his appearances last month. Which I believe where planned to give Obama the plausible opportunity to distance himself from Wright. That didn't workout as well as Obama had thought it would. Therefore, they had to come up with something else. So Father Pfleger shows up at Trinity UCC and makes outrageous comments that gives Obama an excuse to resign from Trinity UCC.

i'll be so glad when we don't have to hear his voice anymore.

re: #83 Killgore Trout

Another Obama halo pic.

Mahdi...Mahdi...Mahdi...

re: #182 nyc redneck

now that will be a change!

Good morning, Lizards. I came back last night from camping. It was just too cold to sleep at night. I still had a blast and the alpine meadows are gorgeous this time of year.

re: #181 savage_nation

Obama refuses to debate McCain and its all over for his worthless ass. People will DEMAND to see the debate.

Yep.

Lizard Prayer List 6/1/08
Prayers for thanks, praise. comfort, strength, healing, and hope

Seeking Updates
Many thanks to Ben Z and Cap'n Doc for starting this.

Part I

Thanksgivings
Shug: Shug Junior arrived 10 days ago; Mrs. Shug is fine
laZardo: friend’s brain scan came back clear
savage nation: healing in family
BlueCanuck (and mom)--brother, SIL, and niece in China and safe.
The Albatross: my father-in-law Walt, cancer reoccurrence, but living life to fullest
FishFearMe: "artifact" or a "sclerotic bone lesion" on sacroiliac IS BENIGN!.
killgore trout: stepfather’s doing better
Conservgirl: Father-in-law Oliver is in remission from Multiple Myeloma. It's a miracle.
Suzette: things improving
MamaWinger Father in law doing better

Health issues:
Sarah: dad (cancer);
Zonie--cancer and renal failure
Jorline: father who has colon cancer
gop patriot: friend’s 6-year-old son has pneumonia.
Jim Robinson of FreeRepublic.com: leg amputated
Pro-Bush Canuck: sister’s illness
LanceKates: dad’s continued recovery from surgery
Ma Sands: daughter dealing with postpartum issues
Tarkus289: father is in hospital; may have pneumonia after two strokes and stage 7 Alzheimer'
kcladderman: father’s throat cancer; just finisher second round of radiation
Clutch: 82-year-old mom’s recovery from eye surgery
realwest: cancer; mom diagnosed with Type II diabetes
BBev: wife’s illness; recovering from surgery
Kenneth: beloved daughter "M" serious chronic illness.
loppyd: nephew, recently diagnosed with Type I Diabetes
Babbazee: ancillary health problems
Cartman: liver and other health problems
Irene NYC: mom’s cancer
EC Marm: wife is hurt
Lucius Septimius: mother
Storagemanager: copd (chronic obstructive pulmonary disease)
BenZacharia: wifffeee’s recovery from surgery
USMC1968: cancer

Continued...

Lizard Prayer List, Part II

Family, friend, and life situations:
David Simon—mom (Alzheimer's)
Sarah: and her husband in the process of moving to Arizona for husband’s schooling and the loans for the schooling are not working out.
Incanus and family: uncle’s passing
KostyaLotz: In-Law Family and Friends in Sichuan Provence, PRC (earthquake victims)
SavageNation: wife's best friend, Geneine (29) died 5/14 of ovarian cancer, leaving 3 little kids behind.
Lizards who are traveling, especially those going abroad.
Eyes of Blue: daughter’s neighbor's husband was killed in Iraq. His son, Drake, and my grandson, both 2, are best buds. He has another child, aged 1.
committed: brother lost his mobile home to fire this past week
Intrepid:. Mom has Alzheimer's and Intrepid is caretaker
Gromster: mother’s passing
Bikermailman: mom’s heart surgery next month
Loppyd: stepfather recovering from serious surgery
wolfie: nephew (USAR) who is being sent into the thick of things in Iraq. We lost another nephew (USMC) two years ago.
vxbush: father’s passing; her & son
conservgirl: atheist SPM, that he finds the Lord
Lizards with family issues
Savage Nation: Dad Frank’s passing & new direction
Hayseed: extended family challenges
gibsonz: the passing of Sonia Neeley
Maximus: son reports for active duty in August.
Noraono: colleagues laid off in building industry
antiislamist: in need of prayers
tfc3rid: friend’s passing shortly after diagnosis, leaving wife and 2 young children; friend’s pregnancy/complications
lone_wolf_in_illinois: friends and family in Israel
Crusader Rabbit: safe traveling
Spidly: brother’s passing
GotC: EH/kids; losing cousin and aunt within 4 months
Danger close: general
zulubaby, Carl in Jerusalem, Mr Pol, Golden Jerusalem, basically all the minion in eretz Yisrael
noam sayin': comfort for a lost brother
DorianGrey: much sorrow
Buckeye Abroad: in the belly of the beast of Eurabia
ChildOfMary: job for hubby and health for self
nonic: general
yank in EU: general
MdiM: general
Suzette: general

Community issues:

Those suffering in China and Burma
Gilad Schalit, Ehud Goldwasser, Eldad Regev, for their release.
Those at risk for speaking the truth
The families of John Young and Ron Withrow and those of the contractors still held hostage
Those pushing back against dhimmitude
Israel, especially for those who mourn
Ezra Levant and Brian at Snapped Shot: for justice

We underestimate how many Americans prefer unqualified, inexperienced, metrosexual celebrities over hard-boiled, tough, rough & ready men.

We underestimate how many Americans think it's perfectly swell Obama has friendships with terrorists and terrorist sympathizers like his good friend Rashid Khalidi the professor from Columbia University who invited Ahmedinejad to Columbia last year, and was a Palestinian "Liberation" Organization mobster.

We underestimate how many Americans think America needs to take a beating, do penance, wear a hair shirt, suffer humiliation.

re: #180 THELAZYC

Either (1) you're right, or (2) that church, in general, is incredibly stupid.

I'm not sure which of those to believe at this point.

NObama

re: #177 realwest

McCain has the ability to go off the cuff and sound reasonable and intelligent WITHOUT stuttering - Obama, OTOH, is abysmal if he doesn't have a teleprompter, and yesterday's numbers of "uh, uhhhh, uh" were very high.

And McCain can speak from years of legislative experience, whereas Obama has done virtually nothing in the three years he's been in the Senate.

Mega popcorn/drinking thread event.

Off to the office for a while; have a great day, ya'll.

Obama would be a fool not to debate McCain

Barry -

“We can’t drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times ... and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK.”

Jimmah "Sweater" Carter-

I'm asking you for your good and for your nation's security to take no unnecessary trips, to use carpools or public transportation whenever you can, to park your car one extra day per week, to obey the speed limit, and to set your thermostats to save fuel.

or see him slouch and shift and bob his head and stare around while others stand respectfully when our national anthem is sung.

re: #176 savage_nation

Let's hope.

I would like McCain to pleasantly surprise me.

re: #176 savage_nation
"re: #172 Dianna

The problem with that is that when Obama lunges for his throat, McCain can't protect himself.

I think John will surprise all of us. Just a hunch."
If Obama lunges for his throat, McCain will kill him.
Absolutely no doubt about it.

re: #188 goddessoftheclassroom

I've got something I want added, but I'd rather describe the situation off-thread. I'm in the blue; drop me a note when you get a chance.

re: #198 Dianna

Let's hope.

I would like McCain to pleasantly surprise me.

Me too.

Now that it's afternoon out here -
Would anyone like to try the newest mixed drink, purely for the sake of CHANGE?
It's the BLOODY BARRY - a delicate blend of equal parts religious hate and racial bigotry, lightly shaken over a base of false HOPE, and then PROUDLY poured down the drain whenever convenient.

Gee, is Obama still gonna be an apostate Muslim when he re-embraces Islam? Or are they going to give him a pass?

re: #187 goddessoftheclassroom

Goddess, my friend's little boy is doing great, he's almost completely well, so you can go ahead and take him off the list now. :) Thanks, everyone, for the prayers, and thanks, goddess for putting him on the list!

re: #202 sparrowlake

CHANGE means HARDSHIP. Is there a hardship mixed drink?

Remember Nixon debated Kennedy and the folks who listened to the debate on radio thought NIXON won.

Kennedy's metrosexual makeup job made voters swoon! (versus Nixon's pale visage with 5'0'clock beard shadow, because Nixon was recovering from some cold or illness).

Obama can run circles around McCain or not, and the media & celebrity lovers will swoon anyway.

re: #181 savage_nation
Nope Savage, Obama won't "refuse" to debate McCain but they'll wind up not being able to agree on the debate terms, format and the like.
But there won't be an unmoderated debate; Obama KNOWS he can't deal with off the cuff questions and answers and McCain can.

re: #189 alegrias

Perhaps we can petition for a day of fasting, humiliation and prayer? Would that make them feel better?

Where is he going to go now for his weekly doze of anti American, anti Israel, Black nationalist, radical Leftist nourishment?

What am I thinking.

There's Michelle. There are all the advisers. The friends.

He'll be fine.

Were the Lincoln-Douglas debates moderated?

It's funny. Just as I read this item about the AP et al, I looked up at the Fox News screen. "Obama: 'I'm not denouncing the church' " was the headline in the lower part of the screen.

re: #200 Lucius Septimius
{Lucius Septimius}
Check your email, please

re: #212 gymnast

Were the Lincoln-Douglas debates moderated?

No.

re: #199 realwest

"re: #172 Dianna

The problem with that is that when Obama lunges for his throat, McCain can't protect himself.

I think John will surprise all of us. Just a hunch."
If Obama lunges for his throat, McCain will kill him.
Absolutely no doubt about it.

My hunch is there will be an "off camera" incident that will make McCain look like an older version of this.

re: #215 rawmuse

No.

We should ask Sen. Lautenberg from NJ. He was there.

re: #204 gop_patriot

Goddess, my friend's little boy is doing great, he's almost completely well, so you can go ahead and take him off the list now. :) Thanks, everyone, for the prayers, and thanks, goddess for putting him on the list!

Oh that's wonderful, gop. I prayed for him. I had pneumonia when I was 8, was in the hospital for two weeks. That was quite a few years ago, but I remember how confused I was about why I had to stay there.

re: #204 gop_patriot

Goddess, my friend's little boy is doing great, he's almost completely well, so you can go ahead and take him off the list now. :) Thanks, everyone, for the prayers, and thanks, goddess for putting him on the list!

I'm so pleased! If it's ok, I'm moving him to "thanksgivings for a couple of weeks.

I thought it impossible for the Dem`s to find anyone worse than their last two candidates for POTUS...boy was I wrong.

re: #205 Roger

CHANGE means HARDSHIP. Is there a hardship mixed drink?

Sorry, alcohol is not allowed in the religion to which Obama has now defaulted.

What an eventful weekend. I suppose it was good for me to go on a News Fast. Interesting catching up with everything.

re: #183 Colonel Panik

What's this! Lord Olivier in dark face! Imagine that.

re: #219 goddessoftheclassroom

I'm so pleased! If it's ok, I'm moving him to "thanksgivings for a couple of weeks.

FreeRepublic Jim Robinson's surgery was successful, you can move him to "thanksgiving" section.

...and Michelle I think shared this concern that - it was going to be very difficult to continue- uh - our membership there so long as I was running for president...

WTF?
Translation: I wouldn't quit 'cept it's making me look bad right now.
So, as soon as he's president he'll be back in the church?

re: #195 tblot

Obama would be a fool not to debate McCain

That's the objective!

re: #218 Intrepid

re: #219 goddessoftheclassroom

Thanks y'all, the Lizards here never let me down. :) (((lizards)))

re: #221 sparrowlake

Sorry, alcohol is not allowed in the religion to which Obama has now defaulted.

Islam, by default.

re: #211 savage_nation
Hey, CALM DOWN Savage! LOL! No one can FORCE Obama to debate. Period. And I've already told you how the MSM will play it.
NOT that Obama refuses to debate but that they have scheduling difficulties, or difficulties in agreeing to a format (McCain, if he has half a fucking brain, will insist on NO MODERATORS, just a timekeeper so no one candidate goes over their alloted time for question, answer or rebuttal), the lighting, whether they'll stand or sit, can or can't use notes and the like - TRUST ME ON THIS - IF Obma agrees to debate McCain, Obama will have EVERYTHING on his side: the rules, the lighting, the moderator and the moderator's role and want it only on CNN.

re: #196 Roger

Man that "eat as much" comment pisses me off

As if God wouldn't provide for his children

re: #212 gymnast
NO, and I don't think they even had a "timekeeper" moderator either.

I predict Obama would even divorce his own wife to keep his campaign for president going, and it looks like he may just have to.....

"...BREAKING NEWS: Michelle’s Whitey Problem »

New and dramatic developments. This is a heads up. I’ll post the news Monday morning by 0900 hours. Now I know why people who have seen the videotape say it is stunning. Barack’s headaches are only starting...."

[Link: noquarterusa.net...]

re: #199 realwest

I think John will surprise all of us. Just a hunch."
If Obama lunges for his throat, McCain will kill him.
Absolutely no doubt about it.

I have this persistent mental image of McCain giving the twerp a British soccer yob style headbutt.

"Yes we have a martial art in Scotland. It's called "fahkyew!" and it consists mainly of headbutting and kicking your opponent after they're down"
...Mike Myers

re: #233 Gjergj Skënderbeu

I predict Obama would even divorce his own wife to keep his campaign for president going, and it looks like he may just have to.....

"...BREAKING NEWS: Michelle’s Whitey Problem »

New and dramatic developments. This is a heads up. I’ll post the news Monday morning by 0900 hours. Now I know why people who have seen the videotape say it is stunning. Barack’s headaches are only starting...."

[Link: noquarterusa.net...]

I hope this is for real.

re: #213 Catttt

It's funny. Just as I read this item about the AP et al, I looked up at the Fox News screen. "Obama: 'I'm not denouncing the church' " was the headline in the lower part of the screen.

look how he gets to have the waffle and eat it too.
(he likes it like that)

re: #231 Ojoe

Man that "eat as much" comment pisses me off

As if God wouldn't provide for his children

For Barry it is a zero sum game; he must 'spread' it out 'fairly'. Not figure out how to better use the earth's rich and bountiful resources.

re: #43 Killgore Trout

His quotes are much shorter once you edit out the um's.

I would never mock a person with a stutter, but a 'speaker' like Obama has horrible speaking habits.

re: #230 realwest

Realwest, I think you're right about the likelihood of Obama trying to evade debate, and the only thing that will reveal this tendency fully to the general public is if McCain has the gumption to get up and make a statement about the evasion. He has to throw down the gauntlet, and challenge Obama to an unmoderated debate.

re: #225 Alouette

FreeRepublic Jim Robinson's surgery was successful, you can move him to "thanksgiving" section.

Thanks for the update.

re: #209 Dianna

There already is a national day of prayer, and there is a NASCAR racer with that sponsor.

re: #4 mama winger

He knows the faith of his fathers -
He just ain't talking about it because -
it is change -
but - not positive change.

re: #215 rawmuse

No.

Exactly! The power of the Fourth Estate-Fifth Column should be obvious in it's attempt to corrupt the ideals upon which this nation was founded. The struggle for this nations future is being decided as this election plays out and the liberal press is working overtime to put the fix in. The colossal hubris of the media industry is on display for all but the deaf and blind to examine and judge.

re: #244 gymnast

It is small comfort, but things are marginally better than they used to be when the big 3 networks controlled everything, thanks to sites like LGF.

re: #242 Ojoe

National Day of Prayer NASCAR car

re: #32 Dianna

Weasels are ermine in the winter time. Mink belong to themselves.

re: #39 Nevergiveup

"Fears" grow that Obama can't win!
[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

Well Not sure if I would use the term "Fears"!

Here's an interesting contradictory note in that story:
"Obama is now to some extent limping to the finishing line. Clinton's refusal to bow out even though her odds of victory have become almost impossible has seen her win several of the most recent contests. In fact, since 4 March, Clinton has won around half a million more votes than Obama."

final driveby

Obama need only debate should he fall behind in the polls. He knows his former ideology equaled contenders offered little disparity.

Rasmussen: McCain Winning the Trust of Voters

At Hot Air, posted about an hour ago.

re: #224 Macker

What's this! Lord Olivier in dark face! Imagine that.

Khartoum.

Classic film about the battle of Khartoum in the Sudan. Brits versus a Sudanese slave trader and Islamic fanatic who fancied himself the Imam Al-Mahdi. "Chinese" Gordon, the British general played by Heston in the film was captured and beheaded. The Brits got their revenge several years later at the Battle of Omdurman, where the Mahdi's forces were devastated by Maxim guns and breechloading artillery. There has never been a movie specifically about Omdurman so far as I know but it is shown in the movie "Young Winston" about the life of Winston Churchill...Churchill was a cavalry officer and war correspondent in that battle.

Unfortunately Sony Pictures has not seen fit to release "Young Winston" on DVD yet.

Big deal. The AP quoted him saying "I’m not denouncing the church and I’m not interested in people who want me to denounce the church." The point gets through clearly.

While I understand that it is part of this blog's agenda to paint the mainstream as a some sort of conspiracy involving left-wing operatives, this post is stretching a little to far.

re: #230 realwest

right on. they will twist it.

If obamarama debates McCain in an unmoderated format, ie.. Here's the question, answer it. He'll look like he did yesterday, unprepared, not ready for prime time and oh so unpresidential. The man cannot speak off of the cuff at all.

re: #239 debutaunt

I would never mock a person with a stutter, but a 'speaker' like Obama has horrible speaking habits.

notice how he sort of shifts into jive talk at the oddest moments. and the authoritative pounding on the final word in the sentence is really getting tiresome.

re: #235 savage_nation
Me too, Savage, me too.

re: #253 justiceforall

Paint? Paint? Latex or oil based?

Kind of OT:
I am struck again by the civil level of discourse at LGF. And it is not always straight agreement, but always civil and always caring about others.

Thank you all.

re: #251 Colonel Panik
Good movie. Olivier plays a right good madman!

re: #253 justiceforall

Big deal. The AP quoted him saying "I’m not denouncing the church and I’m not interested in people who want me to denounce the church." The point gets through clearly.

While I understand that it is part of this blog's agenda to paint the mainstream as a some sort of conspiracy involving left-wing operatives, this post is stretching a little to far.

Normally in the past when a troll as this appears, and I had to leave, I'd regret leaving. But this troll will probably be gone before I'm out my door. All he does is drive-by's.

re: #252 savage_nation

That story made me wonder what the Guardian's sports reporting would be like...
Season Begins: Why Won't Underdogs Give Up?

re: #236 MandyManners

I hope this is for real.

It's more than likely given her former statements. Fingers crossed.

re: #255 pingjockey

If obamarama debates McCain in an unmoderated format, ie.. Here's the question, answer it. He'll look like he did yesterday, unprepared, not ready for prime time and oh so unpresidential. The man cannot speak off of the cuff at all.

His handlers must panic whenever they see him starting up. I wonder how he'd be able to handle a crisis that develops very quickly as POTUS.

re: #255 pingjockey

If obamarama debates McCain in an unmoderated format, ie.. Here's the question, answer it. He'll look like he did yesterday, unprepared, not ready for prime time and oh so unpresidential. The man cannot speak off of the cuff at all.

What was it someone called him on one of the threads yesterday? "The Wizard of Uhs?" LOL.

re: #240 jaunte Yeah, but the real question is: if McCain has the gumption.

re: #250 Intrepid

when it comes to the War in Iraq, McCain is trusted more by 49% of voters. Obama is preferred by 37%. McCain has an even larger edge—53% to 31%–on the broader topic of National Security.

That's not good for the Dems.

re: #263 Gjergj Sk�erbeu

It's more than likely given her former statements. Fingers crossed.

Why has he drawn it out for so long?

re: #253 justiceforall
There is no conspiracy. The media is left leaning, just like most academics. It is a fact.

re: #261 unrealizedviewpoint

Normally in the past when a troll as this appears, and I had to leave, I'd regret leaving. But this troll will probably be gone before I'm out my door. All he does is drive-by's.