Clean Sheets!

I knew a new thread was brewing

So he is a sellout.

He looked O'Reilly in the eye and denied that so I guess it's not true.

some how, that is very sad.

Tool.

If he had wanted to defend the President, no way would he have put his name on that trash. He is just an ass looking to cash in at any cost.

soros should have signed his name to that book

Soros' money is an effective mind changer.

Curiouser and curiouser ...

/Alice down the rabbit hole

So this guy would write a book damning his mother for the right amount of money?

What a swell guy!

Hmm. Money, George Soros, Scotty M whoring himself? What could possibly have gone wrong?

Soros bought him.

Friggin' hump.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Bush is a great person if you've ever had the pleasure of meeting him. This rarely comes across in the media. Big surprise.

Think there's a bias?

What did Soros and his people have on McClellan that he'd do this?

re: #16 Gang of One

What did Soros and his people have on McClellan that he'd do this?

A bigger bank account.

He was for him before he was against him.
(Sounds familiar ... can't quite place it.)

re: #16 Gang of One

What did Soros and his people have on McClellan that he'd do this?

Money.

There is more to this story.

Keep digging.

It was a marketing ploy. My local library is full of liberal crap like this in the political section, conservative stuff is buried deep. With 100,000 libraries ordering multiple copies the book is well on the way to a million seller!

re: #17 Sharmuta

Following the money. Yes. Now it makes sense.

/slaps forehead

soros made the whole thing up.
wonder how many of those other 100's of bush bashing books he "wrote".

Judas sold out his friends and his future for 75 k.. Come on Scott thats chump change for a former white house speaker. What a moron

But don't you think McClellan would have made MORE $$$ on the lecture circuit, et. al. instead of publishing this hit piece? Surely he must have known taht he was igniting a rather large funeral [his] pyre.

re: #21 LoFlyer

It was a marketing ploy. My local library is full of liberal crap like this in the political section, conservative stuff is buried deep. With 100,000 libraries ordering multiple copies the book is well on the way to a million seller!

And yet, like Algore's Earth in the Lurch, ahem, well...Balance...it will end up in the bargain bin of history. I actually BOUGHT Earth in the Balance. At Borders. For $1.00. Because Rush said everyone should read it to see just how dangerous Al is. I still felt dirty.

In 6 months, max, Beam-me-up-Scotty will be on clearance for a buck, too.

re-posted from previous thread:

OT:
H&C on FNC just reported that Sen. Robert Byrd (D WV) has just gone to the hospital for un-specified reasons.

"The money is always right!" -- Mr. Krabs.

re: #26 Grammy Cracker
Probably less than 6 mos. There aren't that many people with BDS, I hope.

You've got to watch out for the curare darts and the headhunters if you're going to mess around with the Amazon.

I am unable to access my own site.

Can you access it?

And if you can't, is there are way for me to determine why it's inaccessible at the moment?

I've got a report to upload and I can't even log on.

O.T

I saw this at fox news:
Obama’s ex-Church has received 15 million in federal grant money!

The chickens indeed are coming home to roost.

I once worked for a company that screwed me out of a promised bonus. (a good sized one). When I asked about it, after I had completed what I was offered the bonus to accomplish, I was told they did not have the money to keep the promise. After asking several times, they let me go. I had a full client list with all contact info. When I went to a competitor for a job, I was told I could have the job, if I could provide client info/ management info on the other company.(which was very successful). I walked out the door. I was asked for that list and offered money for it at the competitor I did take a job with about 6 months into my new job. I immediately quit.
I dont care if I got screwed, I was not going to give or sell that client list. I have to look at me in the mirror in the morning. Can you, Scott?

re: #31 zombie

Nope.

re: #27 GeeWiz

re-posted from previous thread:

OT:
H&C on FNC just reported that Sen. Robert Byrd (D WV) has just gone to the hospital for un-specified reasons.

a klan robe exctamy?

Good Lord! Cooter is an obamarama supporter. He must a drank too much of Uncle Jessies shine!

re: #31 zombie

Stuck on Loading...

re: #29 pingjockey

Probably less than 6 mos. There aren't that many people with BDS, I hope.

Me, too!

re: #31 zombie

I am unable to access my own site.

Can you access it?

And if you can't, is there are way for me to determine why it's inaccessible at the moment?

I've got a report to upload and I can't even log on.

It wont load, I get a page error.

As to why, I couldn't tell you, sorry.

re: #31 zombie

No load.

re: #31 zombie

No go.

McClellan was never very bright. Of course, how hard can it be to press secretary? Go out and bloviate on someone else's thougts... No original thinking required ( that's from the jobe description) Like David Brock, the man sold his birthright for a bowl of pottage, and tomorrow all he will have to show for it is what pottage turns into after a day or so...

re: #31 zombie

Zombie- I timed out.

re: #31 zombie

I am unable to access my own site.

Can you access it?

And if you can't, is there are way for me to determine why it's inaccessible at the moment?

I've got a report to upload and I can't even log on.

Nope

re: #35 yochanan

Cheney told a joke about cousins and West Viginia and the Grand Kleagle had a conitption fit.

re: #31 zombie

I am unable to access my own site.

Can you access it?

And if you can't, is there are way for me to determine why it's inaccessible at the moment?

I've got a report to upload and I can't even log on.

Linky no worky...neither does attempted access from a new tab. That sucks.

re: #31 zombie

I keep getting page load error.

He is destined to be a very lonely man.

re: #31 zombie

I get a network timeout message "server is taking too long to respond".

I don't know how to help you with your other question. There could be so many different things wrong that I wouldn't know where to start, aside from contacting the people who host your site.

re: #26 Grammy Cracker

And yet, like Algore's Earth in the Lurch, ahem, well...Balance...it will end up in the bargain bin of history. I actually BOUGHT Earth in the Balance. At Borders. For $1.00. Because Rush said everyone should read it to see just how dangerous Al is. I still felt dirty.

In 6 months, max, Beam-me-up-Scotty will be on clearance for a buck, too.

Try a really hot shower and "Simple green" detergent, that stuff will clean anything. Homeland security has tips on bio and chemical warfare decontamination procedures. I understand watching the video is even worse. And this guy won an Oscar? Good luck!

Thanks for the replies everyone. No I know it's not just me.

A mystery.

Conversation continued next thread.

No I know = NOW I know.

PIMF

re: #31 zombie

Negative

re: #31 zombie

won't load for me

re: #33 CapeCoddah

Presume you sued and won.

I've seen parts of several interviews of Mr. McC. I think he knows he's screwed the pooch.

re: #31 zombie

I am unable to access my own site.

I'm getting the "server is taking too long to respond." screen, Zombie. (9:27 PM Eastern)

re: #55 itellu3times
Nope, not big on suing. They have to live with it, lost a damned good manager, and a friend, too. I always make a point to say Hi when I see them hiding from me behind the fruit in the grocery store.

RE # 31 Zombie
Can you access the FTP server for your site? And/or if you go to your web hosts' site can you access their control panel? It may be a server-side issue, and if it is I hope you made a backup. My site AmericanBumperSticker.com got hosed a few weeks ago and me, like a dummy didn't have a backup I had to reconstruct everything and re upload the whole site.

Bummer it was

Same here Zom, timed out and all that.

Hope it ain't a serious DOS attack launched by some libtards you skewered.

re: #58 CapeCoddah

God Bless you sir,

Ethics is it's own reward.

re: #33 CapeCoddah

I have to look at me in the mirror in the morning. Can you, Scott?

It's difficult for Scott, but after he pasted $100 dollar bills all around the mirror, it got easier.

re: #61 sojerofgod
Thank you, I have always thought so. (Its Ma'am...NO OFFENSE TAKEN!)

re: #32 DownRightMeanAmerican

O.T

I saw this at fox news:
Obama’s ex-Church has received 15 million in federal grant money!

The chickens indeed are coming home to roost.

You are funny. I never heard anyone refer to it as "ex-church".

re: #33 CapeCoddah

I once worked for a company that screwed me out of a promised bonus. (a good sized one). When I asked about it, after I had completed what I was offered the bonus to accomplish, I was told they did not have the money to keep the promise. After asking several times, they let me go. I had a full client list with all contact info. When I went to a competitor for a job, I was told I could have the job, if I could provide client info/ management info on the other company.(which was very successful). I walked out the door. I was asked for that list and offered money for it at the competitor I did take a job with about 6 months into my new job. I immediately quit.
I dont care if I got screwed, I was not going to give or sell that client list. I have to look at me in the mirror in the morning. Can you, Scott?

What a lizard. Good on ya.

re: #56 jamgarr

I've seen parts of several interviews of Mr. McC. I think he knows he's screwed the pooch.

Leave Rover out of this!

re: #11 simonml

So this guy would write a book damning his mother for the right amount of money?

What a swell guy!

Obama did it for nothing.

this book can have no real credibility now. it is supposedly non fiction. so which version is the truth? mcclellan's story or soro's rewrite?

re: #67 Lively

Obama did it for nothing.

Well, there is control of the free world.

re: #62 SteveC

It's difficult for Scott, but after he pasted $100 dollar bills all around the mirror, it got easier.

Good on you, I say! Sometimes it's hard to do the right thing, but you, and only YOU, have to live with the 'man in the mirror'.

I once defended a politician friend against all odds and our party machine. He was a deeply flawed human being, but did not deserve what was being done to him. The media asked if I wasn't concerned about my political 'career' being harmed.... I told them I had to live with myself, and I couldn't if I turned my back on a friend in need.

He lost. So did I. I can still look in the mirror and know I did the right thing. It was worth it.

re: #70 Grammy Cracker

Ooops! I was referring to CapeCoddah's #33....

re: #70 Grammy Cracker
Thats it exactly. 30 pieces of silver is not worth it to anyone with a conscience.

The focus of a book changed during the editorial process and this is somehow dishonest? Newsworthy? Evidence of ill intent, bias, or greed? Have any of the commenters in this thread actually read the book?

re: #73 Indepublicrat
Whats that smell?

re: #74 CapeCoddah

Whats that smell?

I think I might detect a whiff of gamy buttock.....?

re: #75 Grammy Cracker
Thats what im thinking, the dog just woke up sniffing and growling at my feet...usually a skunk...

re: #74 CapeCoddah

Objectivity.

re: #71 Grammy Cracker

Ooops! I was referring to CapeCoddah's #33....

No Problem! :)

re: #77 Indepublicrat

Obvious troll

re: #73 Indepublicrat

The focus of a book changed during the editorial process and this is somehow dishonest? Newsworthy? Evidence of ill intent, bias, or greed? Have any of the commenters in this thread actually read the book?

Seeing I have not commented on this thread till now I will answer no I have not, Have you? and if you did what do you think of it?

One of the main reasons it is taking so long for this book to be Fisked is that everybody is waiting for someone else to buy it, read it and then loan it to them.
I know of No One who has bought this book.

(Don't you wish you knew No One, too?)

Zombie I just accessed your page. No worries.

re: #80 BBev

Seeing I have not commented on this thread till now I will answer no I have not, Have you? and if you did what do you think of it?

I'll admit, I have not. Scotty was a mediocre-at-best Presser, and I cannot image being interested in anything he tried to say by himself (or through his ghost writer). I might read it someday, when really desperate and bored, if it's free....

Plus Amazon.com keeps censoring the reviews of the book. Last night, there were more than 61 reviews on the book and now there is less than 42 reviews. Seems Amazon edits and deletes what they don't really like

A book defending Bush isn't going to make any money right now. McClellan probably realized he could cash in a ton of money if he made it an anti-Bush book. If Obama made $4 million that year when his book went on sale and he wasn't even close to being as famous as he is now, imagine how much Scott is going to make.

I just saw him on O'Reilly. Honetly, the interview sucked really bad. O'Reilly kept asking him the same questions, "don't you feel bad being used by the liberl media to attack Bush." And Scott kept answering the same thing over and over again, "I just want people to know the truth and to help bring change to Washington." What he was really singing is "I'm in the money! I'm in the money!" And it is...all about money for most politicians, and power.

re: #73 Indepublicrat

The focus of a book changed during the editorial process and this is somehow dishonest? Newsworthy? Evidence of ill intent, bias, or greed? Have any of the commenters in this thread actually read the book?

Doesn't the editorial process occur when the book is FINISHED? Oh crap I just fed a troll

re: #80 BBev

Seeing I have not commented on this thread till now I will answer no I have not, Have you? and if you did what do you think of it?

I haven't read it, so I can't claim to know whether it's good, bad, factual, or fanciful. In such cases, I reserve making any rush to judgment.

re: #84 winston06

Plus Amazon.com keeps censoring the reviews of the book. Last night, there were more than 61 reviews on the book and now there is less than 42 reviews. Seems Amazon edits and deletes what they don't really like

That's interesting! I've reviewed dozens of products, including books, for Amazon...and a number of them were negative. They all were both published and left standing. I wonder if people got personal with Scotty, or used profanity, etc.?

re: #87 Indepublicrat

I haven't read it, so I can't claim to know whether it's good, bad, factual, or fanciful. In such cases, I reserve making any rush to judgment.

Well I have seen so many interviews with him lately, I think I have seen enough with out reading the book.

re: #88 Grammy Cracker

I'm sure there were people who commented on the book without having read it. That would be a good reason to take the reviews down.

The McClellan book is a Rovian plot. Just like Dan Rather's throbbing memo; the rest of the story will come out just in time for GWB to cancel the election and declare martial law.
Anyone seen my tinfoil hat?

re: #84 winston06

Plus Amazon.com keeps censoring the reviews of the book. Last night, there were more than 61 reviews on the book and now there is less than 42 reviews. Seems Amazon edits and deletes what they don't really like

Winston Smith, paging Winston Smith. Citizen Smith, please report to the editing room at Amazon.com as soon as possible.

re: #88 Grammy Cracker

That's interesting! I've reviewed dozens of products, including books, for Amazon...and a number of them were negative. They all were both published and left standing. I wonder if people got personal with Scotty, or used profanity, etc.?

I have a feeling rabid moonbats got into the works and started hitting the report button on anything critical of the book.

re: #90 PloniAlmoni

I'm sure there were people who commented on the book without having read it. That would be a good reason to take the reviews down.

True! I have read some reviews there, of books and movies, where the commenter hasn't read or seen the item in question. WTH are they thinking? DUH....thinking doesn't enter into it. Those should be taken down!

re: #86 tedzilla99

Doesn't the editorial process occur when the book is FINISHED? Oh crap I just fed a troll

For a memoir like this, an editor's job is to guide an author to a better realization of his or her own vision. This might entail writing mechanics, organization, and as some have said, marketability--but the author is ultimately responsible for all the content.

re: #73 Indepublicrat

Not gonna get roped into lining this douche-nozzle's pockets with my money. He was a clueless asshole at work as Press Secretary and I assume he was a clueless asshole off duty and now I assume he is a retired and wealthy clueless asshole with a ghost-written book.

"Clueless Joe" Klein was easier to listen to at the podium than McClellan.

I forced myself to read several of the Bush bashing books over the last 6 years including that steaming projectile monkey feces that Maureen "I'll never get decently laid" Dowd produced.

All in the interest of being fair and open-mindeder.

After wasting the time and money and Advil on those, I have decided that I won't read any more liberal books until they are printed on toilet paper where they will have some use.

Not to mention the better realization of the vision of green money courtesy of Soros.

re: #95 Indepublicrat

For a memoir like this, an editor's job is to guide an author to a better realization of his or her own vision. This might entail writing mechanics, organization, and as some have said, marketability--but the author is ultimately responsible for all the content.

Sorry, but the editor's only job for a "memoir" should be to correct spelling and grammar. If the 'editor' 'guides' the 'realization' of the 'vision', it isn't a memoir. It's fiction.

re: #98 Grammy Cracker

A million little pieces of fiction.

re: #95 Indepublicrat

For a memoir like this, an editor's job is to guide an author to a better realization of his or her own vision. This might entail writing mechanics, organization, and as some have said, marketability--but the author is ultimately responsible for all the content.

haha that's funny! An editor's job is to rewrite the book? Hilarious!

Hypothesis for our visitor:

James Carville was just about to write a book praising all the fine things the Clintons did or tried to do. Then, after getting turned down by several publishers, he ends up at a publishing house that is a front company for Karl Rove. Suddenly, the book does a 180 and now says that both Clintons were bad, bad, bad.

Do you see nothing particularly noteworthy here?

re: #98 Grammy Cracker

Sorry, but the editor's only job for a "memoir" should be to correct spelling and grammar. If the 'editor' 'guides' the 'realization' of the 'vision', it isn't a memoir. It's fiction.

You're confusing "editor" with "ghost writer". I don't know whether or not this book had one of those, but even a ghost-written memoir is presented as factual. Every word still needs approval from the person whose name is emblazoned on the cover.

I enjoyed Mark Hemingway's take on the book: the first chapter

"reads like his literary agent forced him at gunpoint to down a bottle of tequila and then summarize the Wikipedia article on the Valerie Plame affair as uncritically as possible."

[Link: article.nationalreview.com...]

re: #102 Indepublicrat

You're confusing "editor" with "ghost writer". I don't know whether or not this book had one of those, but even a ghost-written memoir is presented as factual. Every word still needs approval from the person whose name is emblazoned on the cover.

Exactly so. There seems to be a bizarre effort afoot to clarify what McClellan really meant to say.

Bull. He said what he meant to say. He put his name on it. He's promoting and standing behind it.

re: #101 Silhouette

Hypothesis for our visitor:

James Carville was just about to write a book praising all the fine things the Clintons did or tried to do. Then, after getting turned down by several publishers, he ends up at a publishing house that is a front company for Karl Rove. Suddenly, the book does a 180 and now says that both Clintons were bad, bad, bad.

Do you see nothing particularly noteworthy here?

The benefit of being Independent is that I don't have to come up with a new answer when leftist names are replaced with rightist ones or vice versa. Rove has just as much right to start up a publishing company as anyone else, and Carville has just as much right to change his book right up until the galleys are ready to go out the door--although I have to admit that putting those two on the same side of any issue would be a noteworthy accomplishment.

re: #105 Indepublicrat
Ever heard of the benefits of taking a stand, something you believe in, and fighting for it, instead of sticking your finger into the wind to see who's opinion is popular today? Make up your mind. Independant is a cop out for apathy.

re: #104 Cognito

Exactly so. There seems to be a bizarre effort afoot to clarify what McClellan really meant to say.

Bull. He said what he meant to say. He put his name on it. He's promoting and standing behind it.

I'm not nearly as confused as you 'gentlemen' wish to believe. I also don't give a flying fig what Scotty said or meant to say. Our trolly pal is the one who said the 'editor' should adjust the writing, refresh the memory, and rearrange the story to make it 'marketable'. Marketable trash.

Oh, and the WINGS SCORE! WOOT!

re: #105 Indepublicrat

Fence-sitting gets a person nothing but a sore ass. -Old family proverb.

re: #101 Silhouette

You forgot to mention that James Carville is an evil man-eating snake alien from space, but otherwise a fine point.

re: #107 Grammy Cracker

I'm not nearly as confused as you 'gentlemen' wish to believe. I also don't give a flying fig what Scotty said or meant to say. Our trolly pal is the one who said the 'editor' should adjust the writing, refresh the memory, and rearrange the story to make it 'marketable'. Marketable trash.

Editors do that. Adjust writing, refresh memory, rearrange the story.

What they shouldn't do is change or invent facts.

Is someone making a factual allegation?

re: #108 Sifty

Fence-sitting gets a person nothing but a sore ass. -Old family proverb.

And there's nothing in the middle of the road but yellow stripes and dead armadillos.

re: #111 Grammy Cracker
LOL, Good one Grammy!

WOOT! Wings score AGAIN!

Come on home, Stanley!

Where did the troll go, i'm only hearing crickets from his corner!

re: #114 CapeCoddah

He had to go cash his royalty check.

re: #106 CapeCoddah

Ever heard of the benefits of taking a stand, something you believe in, and fighting for it, instead of sticking your finger into the wind to see who's opinion is popular today? Make up your mind. Independant is a cop out for apathy.

Apathy is when you don't care, while I do happen to care deeply about a wide variety of issues and I fight for them when required. But worse than apathy is closing your ears to valid arguments from "the other side," which is what I see from partisans on the left and right. Not from everyone though--mostly just those who pride themselves on taking a stand and sticking to it even in the face of overwhelming evidence that they are wrong.

re: #110 Cognito

Editors do that. Adjust writing, refresh memory, rearrange the story.

What they shouldn't do is change or invent facts.

Is someone making a factual allegation?

At the risk of encouraging this crap....how exactly is it MY work if the "editor" adjusts my writing, "refreshes my memory" (who the hell was there, after all, me or him?), and rearranges my story? This is just MORE proof that Scotty is a useful tool and nothing more.

re: #115 Sifty
LOL

re: #116 Indepublicrat
I will be sure to let you know the first time I hear a valid argument from the left. I have yet to hear just 1, and I am 41. How long do you think it will take? Why don't you give us an example of a valid left wing argument, then we can put it up as the first exhibit for such things in the yet to be built Bigfoot and Loch Ness Monster museum.

re: #117 Grammy Cracker

At the risk of encouraging this crap....how exactly is it MY work if the "editor" adjusts my writing, "refreshes my memory" (who the hell was there, after all, me or him?), and rearranges my story? This is just MORE proof that Scotty is a useful tool and nothing more.

Hi Grammy,
Editors don't edit anymore. They pass text down to low-level copy editors, usually recent English majors. I very much doubt Scotty's editor took the time to rearrange/rewrite his book.

Scotty did it. He chose to do it. He's still a tool, but not stupidly so. He's culpable.

O'Reilly missed it, but McClellan told two stories on the time line of the book's production. Early in the interview Mc said that he had begun writing the book when he appeared on Bill Maher's show (April 2007 I believe he said), and the later he said that he put the first draft in the publisher's h