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How Wrong Were the Pundits on Obama's 'Race' Speech?

Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 10:19:22 pm PDT

Now that Barack Obama has tossed his pastor and church of 20 years under the bus, let’s revisit the ridiculous over-the-top article by New York Times op-ed columnist Bob Herbert that followed Obama’s first attempt to snow his way out of the mess, the speech in which he said he could no more disavow Rev. Wright than he could disavow his own grandmother: With a Powerful Speech, Obama Offers a Challenge - New York Times.

The speech, which has gotten wonderful reviews, should be required reading in classrooms across the country — and in as many other venues as possible. With a worldview that embraces both justice and healing, Senator Obama is better on these issues than any American leader since King.

Unfortunately, what is more likely to happen is that the essence of the speech will be lost in the din that inevitably erupts whenever there is a racial controversy in the United States.

The fundamental message that Senator Obama is trying to get across is that the racial madness that has perverted so many elections needs to stop — and stop now. Time and again, that madness has been employed to undermine efforts to create what the senator characterizes as “a more just, more equal, more free, more caring and more prosperous America.”

Racial prejudice, ignorance, hostility — whatever — has caused millions of Americans to vote against their own economic interests, and for policies that have damaged the country.

“It’s hard to address big issues,” Mr. Obama told me, “if we’re easily diverted or distracted by racial antagonism.”

And this was only two months ago. Is Herbert embarrassed by this ludicrously wrong assessment now? I’m guessing not.

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1 rawmuse  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:21:04pm

Don't hold your breath while you wait for a mea culpa.

2 victor_yugo  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:21:36pm

The Times will print a retraction, on page B-11, in the lower right-hand corner.

In 6-point print.

In Swahili.

3 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:22:00pm
4 brainwizard73  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:22:51pm

Deepest apologies to Mr. Churchill...I have the advance copy on President Obama's State of the Union for 2010:

Even though large tracts of Europe and many old and famous States have fallen or may fall into the grip of the non-Buddhists and all the odious apparatus of non-Jewish rule, we shall not flag or fail, much.

We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in the Middle East, until it becomes unpopular.

We shall fight on the seas and oceans, until MoveOn says enough.

We shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, until our industry crumbles under a carbon cap and trade system and Kyoto II: Return of the Killer Treaty.

We shall defend our Nation, whatever the cost may be, especially if only people from red states care enough to fight.

We shall fight on the beaches, as long as the sea-turtles aren't in the way.

We shall fight on the landing grounds, but not our southern border

We shall fight in the fields (not near the redwoods) and in the streets (but with non-lethal weapons),

We shall fight in the hills, were the last bitter, gun toting, God-fearing racist rednecks live;

We shall never surrender...unless not surrendering means we are Islamophobes and George Soros thinks he can make a buck!

5 joecitizen  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:24:24pm

Herbert's a pimp...he is what he is..

6 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:24:39pm

The left must be loving this. No matter how well thought out or reasonable the objections and concerns are over BHO as a candidate, the only response they feel they need to deliver is "You just dont like him because he is black."

I got a couple people at work who keep telling me this.

7 hermeneutics  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:25:28pm

re: #6 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The left must be loving this. No matter how well thought out or reasonable the objections and concerns are over BHO as a candidate, the only response they feel they need to deliver is "You just dont like him because he is black."

I got a couple people at work who keep telling me this.

And how do you respond?

8 Bosch Fawstin  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:25:36pm

That really is embarrassing, but the NYT's doesn't know the meaning of the word.

9 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:25:49pm

re: #6 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The left must be loving this. No matter how well thought out or reasonable the objections and concerns are over BHO as a candidate, the only response they feel they need to deliver is "You just dont like him because he is black."

I got a couple people at work who keep telling me this.

Why don't you throw the "content of his character" line at them?

10 brainwizard73  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:26:00pm

Racial prejudice, ignorance, hostility — whatever — has caused millions of Americans to vote against their own economic interests, and for policies that have damaged the country.

Doesn't this describe black voting patterns since, oh...about 1950?

11 hermeneutics  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:26:42pm

re: #10 brainwizard73

Perfect.

12 victor_yugo  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:26:44pm

re: #7 hermeneutics

And how do you respond?

"No, I don't like him because he's a socialist and a terror-appeaser!"

Or, as Dennis Miller put it recently, "I haven't noticed the color of his skin, but I have noticed the thinness of it."

13 OtisMyMan  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:26:51pm

"It is hard to comment on big issues", Mr. Obama said, "when I don't have a frickin' clue what they are!"

14 BignJames  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:27:40pm

Does Chrissy get a reverse tingle?

15 DesertSage  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:27:45pm

What will happen to the tingle that went up Chris Matthews' leg?

16 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:27:47pm
17 hermeneutics  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:28:17pm

re: #15 DesertSage

It will be replaced by a tinkle going down his leg.

18 Bosch Fawstin  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:28:23pm

He won't win, but to think he actually is in the running.

19 DesertSage  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:28:54pm

re: #14 BignJames

You beat me by | | much.

20 BignJames  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:29:21pm

re: #19 DesertSage


Hey, GMTA.

21 joecitizen  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:29:55pm

re: #15 DesertSage

What will happen to the tingle that went up Chris Matthews' leg?


god forbid it turns into an anuerysm..(sp?)

22 BignJames  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:30:22pm

Re: reporters being wrong.....I'd be suprised if they got the day of the week right.

23 slokat  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:30:48pm

So it looks like BHO is evolving, question is can he evolve fast enough by November to survive?

24 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:30:59pm
25 brainwizard73  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:31:22pm

re: #11 hermeneutics

Hey, when someone grooves a fastball, even the Beer League guy can hit major league pitching.

26 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:31:28pm
The fundamental message that Senator Obama is trying to get across is that the racial madness that has perverted so many elections needs to stop — and stop now.

/oh really?

27 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:31:56pm
28 stevieray  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:32:28pm

Embarrassed? No, of course not. That is to be expected when dealing with a deity as breathtakingly nuanced as our future Great Leader.

Obama is far above us mortal men. The best we can hope for is the enlightened columnists at the New York Times to mediate for us, like delphic oracles, so we can get a mere glimpse of the all encompassing brilliance of the Obama mind. He can embrace all sides of every issue all at once! Its is we who should be embarrassed for our small, bigoted insistence on petty consistency.

*hangs head in shame*

29 BignJames  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:32:36pm

re: #24 song_and_dance_man


Rather see smoke from his ears...blown gasket.

30 slokat  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:32:57pm

re: #14 BignJames

Does Chrissy get a reverse tingle?

reverse tingle = pain in the butt?

/just sayin

31 joecitizen  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:33:26pm

re: #24 song_and_dance_man

Shimmering hair?


wasn't hair talk on the last thread?I'm sorry I missed it,frankly...

32 brainwizard73  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:33:35pm

re: #23 slokat

When he evolves to include a flagellum, I am out of here...

33 The Rebbitzen  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:33:45pm

The MSM/left has no shame.

34 SpartanWoman  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:34:00pm

re: #3 song_and_dance_man

Maybe the mayor of NO has some he's not using?

35 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:34:32pm

re: #7 hermeneutics

And how do you respond?

I used to try and argue my point showing specific statements I disagree with and showing examples, including conversations I had with them in the past showing how I disliked his policies from the begining, but it hasn't mattered. I dont talk to them about it anymore since they obviously dont want to listen.

36 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:35:11pm

re: #32 brainwizard73

When he evolves to include a flagellum, I am out of here...

Ick!

37 brainwizard73  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:35:22pm

re: #14 BignJames

Does Chrissy get a reverse tingle?

Can I get a guarantee from MSNBC that whatever tingles down his leg won't be shown on TV at least during family time?

38 hermeneutics  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:36:06pm

re: #35 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

It seems that the degree of commonality between Dems and Reps has been reduced to nil. There simply isn't enough shared assumptions to converse with them.

Civil war.

39 joecitizen  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:36:14pm

re: #37 brainwizard73

Can I get a guarantee from MSNBC that whatever tingles down his leg won't be shown on TV at least during family time?


No.

40 least  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:36:45pm

The left has a big, big . . . BIG memory hole.
See what they wanna see, hear what they wanna hear.

41 brainwizard73  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:36:53pm

re: #36 MandyManners

Ick!

Think if it this way...if Obama gets to that point, we won't have a hard time finding his DNA on the blue dress...

oops, that might have been a low blow.

Brainwizard. Two minutes for unsportsmanlike conduct...

42 ggt  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:38:07pm

Good Evening Lizards! It was actually HOT in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland today. Tonite it is dark.

So, on late night threads does the wait 'til we get to 100 to go OT still apply?

How are you-all this evening?

43 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:38:25pm

I DVR 'Cheers' on TVLAND and when I watched the latest episode, "Woody gets an Election", Frasier advises Woody to just say "Change" over and over.
Woody Boyd and barack hussein obama have a lot in common.

44 BignJames  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:38:30pm

re: #37 brainwizard73

I don't talk about my sex life....or tingles down my leg...stuff like that...I keep to myself.

45 rawmuse  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:39:16pm

re: #42 ggt

As I like to say, I am satisfactory, in the extreme.

46 joecitizen  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:40:25pm

re: #38 hermeneutics

It seems that the degree of commonality between Dems and Reps has been reduced to nil. There simply isn't enough shared assumptions to converse with them.

Civil war.


actually,that's kinda scary and invigorating at the same time..I think this has been brewing for a long time...some people just act like they're gonna have to be dragged into this civilisation we are trying to have,kicking and screaming if necessry...this is not a game..peoples lives are at stake..and the tree of liberty may need watered soon...

47 DesertSage  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:40:38pm

re: #42 ggt

Do you have any good Pflagerisms for us?

48 ggt  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:40:55pm

re: #45 rawmuse

Glad to hear it!

49 hermeneutics  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:41:05pm

Good evening, GGT -- all is well. Not entirely, though.

Obama leads McCain in MN, WA and OR.

MN -- 47 to 42
WA -- 52 to 36
OR -- 49 to 39

This is Survey USA's poll among Registered, not likely, voters. Just released but the poll was done 16-18 May, at Obama's peak.

50 DistantThunder  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:41:10pm

This is like the guy with the sign which says -
The world will end on 3-01-08
The world will end on 4-01-08
The world will end on 05-01-08
The world will end on 6-01-08
The world will end on 7-01-08

Being a Democrat means never saying you're sorry....

51 brainwizard73  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:41:56pm

If you compare Barack Obama and Al Franken you find out what is really wrong with that other party.

Both are symbolic of a party that has no bleepin' clue how to check out candidates. There are a lot of people uncomfortable not with race or some other immutable characteristic (although in fairness, Franken has some really scary eyebrows). No, the real issue for many undecideds or moderates or independents is that they don't KNOW these people and the more they learn the more they don't like...

It is almost as if the party decided that if a candidate meets a litmus test on a couple of issues and has a scorching case of Bush-Derangement Syndrome, that they are automatically in.

It worked so well for Ned Lamont, right?

52 ggt  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:42:28pm

re: #47 DesertSage

I don't know. I've been gone (in Ohio) for the past week and seemed to have missed out on a few things.

First, tell me what "Pflagerisms" are and maybe I can come up with something.

53 hermeneutics  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:42:47pm

re: #46 joecitizen

actually,that's kinda scary and invigorating at the same time..I think this has been brewing for a long time...some people just act like they're gonna have to be dragged into this civilisation we are trying to have,kicking and screaming if necessry...this is not a game..peoples lives are at stake..and the tree of liberty may need watered soon...

Yes, and so many on the right have been silenced by PC codes. Witness Steyn, for e.g. If Obama loses, as expected, at least the lid will have been blown off.

54 RTLM  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:42:57pm

So when Michelle's "Whitey" rant drops, what will he do?

55 redc1c4  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:43:24pm

in order for him to be embarrassed, he'd need to have a sense of shame, and for him to have a sense of shame, he'd need a moral & ethical framew*rk.

his lacking those items preclude him from experiencing either of those emotions

56 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:43:32pm

re: #52 ggt

I don't know. I've been gone (in Ohio) for the past week and seemed to have missed out on a few things.

First, tell me what "Pflagerisms" are and maybe I can come up with something.

/start here

57 BignJames  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:43:58pm

re: #54 RTLM


Whine.

58 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:44:45pm

re: #26 Killian Bundy

/oh really?

That.Is.Incredible...

/Picking my jaw up from the floor.

59 hermeneutics  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:44:58pm

Slokat, dear -- any inspiring images today?

60 BignJames  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:45:00pm

re: #55 redc1c4


Spock?....so...logical.

61 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:46:00pm

re: #54 RTLM

So when Michelle's "Whitey" rant drops, what will he do?

/that's becoming less and less likely

62 U.S.S. Nixon  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:46:15pm

Didn't Chris Matthews say this should be kept and read like Huck Finn or other classics?

63 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:46:53pm
64 ggt  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:47:32pm

re: #56 Killian Bundy

My goodness!

Think he forgot his meds?

65 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:48:19pm

re: #64 ggt

My goodness!

Think he forgot his meds?

He forgot his decency!

66 joecitizen  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:48:45pm

re: #53 hermeneutics

Yes, and so many on the right have been silenced by PC codes. Witness Steyn, for e.g. If Obama loses, as expected, at least the lid will have been blown off.


obamassiah WILL lose..we have yet to see the last shoe drop on that sonofabitch..but this will not stop what we are talking about,if anything it will probably expedite matters as the left loses its collective mind,forgetting that we own most of the guns and the righteous moral high ground...so much the worse for them,says I.

67 ggt  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:49:39pm

re: #65 MigueldowninMexico

How far we've come from Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

"content of his character?"

it seems his father's character and his father's character are to count as well.

68 RTLM  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:49:51pm

re: #61 Killian Bundy

/that's becoming less and less likely

I guess we'll all just have to wait and see/hear.

69 tankdemon  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:50:26pm

re: #62 U.S.S. Nixon

I think Huck Finn said more about race relations than BHO ever will.

So, when BHO gets reperations passed, will he be receiving any, considering that it is much more likely that his forebears would have been slave holders rather than slaves?

70 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:51:03pm

re: #67 ggt

How far we've come from Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

"content of his character?"

it seems his father's character and his father's character are to count as well.

I can't really give an opinion.

I'm entitled, you see?

71 ggt  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:51:12pm

Is this election going to be remembered as the "Preacher Wars"?

or will the IRS will investigate prompting Congressional hearings and it will be known as "Preachergate"?

72 Athens Runaway  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:51:13pm

re: #62 U.S.S. Nixon

Didn't Chris Matthews say this should be kept and read like Huck Finn or other classics?

Yes. Then again, Christina gets a thrill up his leg when he hears Oblahma speak. To be blunt, if Chris was any more in love with Obama, he'd get on his knees and give a trouser-friendly kiss.

73 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:51:38pm

re: #71 ggt

Is this election going to be remembered as the "Preacher Wars"?

or will the IRS will investigate prompting Congressional hearings and it will be known as "Preachergate"?

The Preacher Wars!
ROFL!

74 ggt  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:51:43pm

re: #70 MigueldowninMexico

ah!

75 Athens Runaway  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:53:15pm

re: #73 MigueldowninMexico

The Preacher Wars!
ROFL!

*cues cosmic, scrolling text and John Williams score*

76 joecitizen  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:53:34pm

re: #72 Athens Runaway

Yes. Then again, Christina gets a thrill up his leg when he hears Oblahma speak. To be blunt, if Chris was any more in love with Obama, he'd get on his knees and give a trouser-friendly kiss.


why doncha just say that obamassiah is just one big blowjob,backandforth,for the msm? oh,you did..sorry

77 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:53:52pm

re: #74 ggt

ah!

If I were starving, despondent, utterly poor, dark-skinned, with a low IQ, maybe, perhaps, I will be allowed to have an opinion.

That is, as long as I don't live in Chavez's future and wonderful Venezuela ;)

78 Arbalest  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:53:58pm

Why, exactly, is Bob Herbert so gaga over "The Wizard of Uhh" (from someone, yesterday, I don't know who)? The speech might be good, but not great, and the man who delivered it is mired in a racial/racist cesspool. Frist Wright, then TUCC, then Pfleger; who's next?

AP at Hot Air has this thread about BHO's radical friends and the link to BHO's book.

Hamering at this, a decades-long link to Marxism/Hatred-of-America, is bound to cause major problems for BHO.

How will Bob Herbert defend this? Stay tuned.

79 brainwizard73  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:54:30pm

re: #75 Athens Runaway

*cues cosmic, scrolling text and John Williams score*

Starring Michelle Obama as the trusty sidekick C-3PO...who won't shut up...

80 wolfie  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:54:40pm

re: #38 hermeneutics

It seems that the degree of commonality between Dems and Reps has been reduced to nil. There simply isn't enough shared assumptions to converse with them.

Civil war.

I think this is very true for this election.
Take my "liberal" sister and her moonbat husband. They always vote for the Democrat. We just assume it & grin and bear it.
But this year no one in the family, from the moderate liberals to the arch-conservatives, wants to ask them about Obama. It's as if we think they might like him and we can't stand to know that. Like a line would be crossed.
Funny.........but maybe not so funny.

81 hermeneutics  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:54:42pm

Obama And Hillary Spoke Privately On Sunday Night
By Greg Sargent - June 2, 2008, 3:26PM
Obama campaign spokesperson Bill Burton confirms to me that Obama and Hillary spoke privately on Sunday night -- but those looking to read their conversation for clues to how or whether the race will end tomorrow may be disappointed.

"They did speak," Burton tells me via instant message.

Asked if they had discussed anything relating to post-primary activities, Burton said: "He called to congratulate her on her victory in Puerto Rico, that's it."
[Link: tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

"Earlier in the day it was reported that Clinton staffers were being urged by the campaign's finance department "to turn in their outstanding expense receipts by the end of the week," another sign that the run at the White House was nearing an end. In addition, Politico wrote that members of Clinton's advance staff had received calls and emails Sunday night, summoning them to New York City and telling them their roles on the campaign are ending."

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

82 Athens Runaway  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:54:50pm

re: #76 joecitizen

why doncha just say that obamassiah is just one big blowjob,backandforth,for the msm? oh,you did..sorry

Cuz this isn't Kos? Well, that, and I like NOT being banninated for vulgarity. Oh well.

83 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:54:54pm
84 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:55:01pm

re: #58 MigueldowninMexico

That.Is.Incredible...

/Picking my jaw up from the floor.

/not sure how Obama managed to sleep through that congregation clapping, hooting, and hollering for 20 years

85 U.S.S. Nixon  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:55:35pm

re: #72 Athens Runaway

Yes. Then again, Christina gets a thrill up his leg when he hears Oblahma speak. To be blunt, if Chris was any more in love with Obama, he'd get on his knees and give a trouser-friendly kiss.

He probably has tried and got a stern talking to by Mr Muscles Michelle Obama

86 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:56:10pm
87 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:56:46pm

re: #75 Athens Runaway

*cues cosmic, scrolling text and John Williams score*

My preacher is meaner than yours!

88 joecitizen  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:57:14pm

re: #82 Athens Runaway

Cuz this isn't Kos? Well, that, and I like NOT being banninated for vulgarity. Oh well.


don't deny the power of the vulgar,especially in these political times..sometimes ya just gotta call a blowjob a blowjob...

89 victor_yugo  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:57:18pm

SAVAGE!

90 ggt  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:58:00pm

re: #77 MigueldowninMexico

Or you had a Law Degree or Phd from a prestigious University or wrote for the NYTimes . . .

91 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:58:00pm

re: #84 Killian Bundy

/not sure how Obama managed to sleep through that congregation clapping, hooting, and hollering for 20 years

He was so busy praising the Lord ;)

92 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:58:03pm
93 Racer X  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:58:25pm

Well, if you're not going to vote for Obama, you're just racist.

The liberal said with a straight face.

94 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:58:33pm

Lyndon Johnson was the shiznits.

I mean you just can't improve on social visions like Pruitt-Igoe or Cabrini-Green anywhere these days, no matter how hard you try. It's a central reason why the progressive African-Americans continue to support the Democratic Party in huge majorities to this day. especially in large post-industrial cities, where they've fared exceptionally well...

God bless LBJ!

95 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:58:34pm

re: #86 savage_nation

hi kids

¡Hola señor! ;)

96 Athens Runaway  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:58:54pm

re: #85 U.S.S. Nixon

He probably has tried and got a stern talking to by Mr Muscles Michelle Obama

Does anyone have a spare bottle of mindbleach? Anyone?

97 joecitizen  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:59:00pm

re: #86 savage_nation

hi kids


hey Sav..how stand you on the msm and their blowing of obamassiah? heh...

98 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 10:59:41pm

re: #90 ggt

Or you had a Law Degree or Phd from a prestigious University or wrote for the NYTimes . . .

Oh no.
That is the equivalent of a lobotomy.
The only difference is that you don't notice when it happens lol

99 ggt  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:00:49pm

re: #98 MigueldowninMexico

I think it all boils down to how many delegates you can bribe.

100 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:00:53pm
101 jainphx  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:01:08pm

It's racism for thee but not for me. Barack's anthem.

102 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:01:32pm
103 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:02:14pm

re: #99 ggt

I think it all boils down to how many delegates you can bribe.

The Biggest Show on Earth (Not talking about P. Barnum et al) in Denver (above the ground in this case), is going to be VERY interesting.

I already ordered 20 flavors of pop corn ;)

104 LeePro  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:02:16pm

Fellow Lizards, I just gotta tell ya'. Had a lonnnnnnnnnggg phone conversation with NY Nana tonight. There is one cool lady ! ! !

105 LeePro  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:02:49pm

re: #104 LeePro

Oh, sorry...
That would be "OT"

106 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:02:53pm

re: #102 savage_nation

Mike, the verdict is in and it is sound!

Veredict on what, savage?

107 Adrenalyn  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:02:57pm

he'll apologize when Teddy Kennedy apologizes to our troops
for "celebrating" Abu Ghraib day every year
or when he apologizes to Mary Jo Kopechne's family

108 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:03:15pm
109 hermeneutics  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:03:15pm

“Every piece of story in WSJ has on average about 8.3 editors involved...that is ridiculous. You have to get all of the facts in half the space.”

[Link: www.poynter.org...]

Does anyone else find this amazing?

110 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:03:22pm
111 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:03:27pm

re: #104 LeePro

Fellow Lizards, I just gotta tell ya'. Had a lonnnnnnnnnggg phone conversation with NY Nana tonight. There is one cool lady ! ! !

Oh I'm glad you did!

She sure is a great lady :)

112 stevieray  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:04:17pm

Herbert, like dozens of other columnists across the nation, is steeped in the post-modernism of today's leftists -- there is no such thing as objective truth, there is only the narrative.

The narrative for Obama has already been written. He is the post racial healer, he brings the insoluble together, he is hope and change made flesh.

They will not abandon the narrative. They will squeal in delight at Obama's audacious nuance, his ability to bridge the chasms between the worlds of black and white, and all the shades in between. They will accuse his doubters of bitterness and hatred, of trying to kill the New Way in its crib, of clinging to the grotesque failure that is America before Obama.

After all, these are people who still believe in socialism, in marxism, in maoism, in any-non-Americanism... despite their histories unblemished by success for the better part of a century. They will do what they do best -- lie and spin -- because their entire self image and world view depend on it.

113 brainwizard73  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:05:18pm

re: #110 savage_nation

Congratulations to you all. Not sure if this the first one or not, but little girls are great gifts...I get the feeling I might question that in 14 years or so...but so be it.

114 LeePro  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:06:05pm

re: #108 song_and_dance_man

I want details.

What... you don't have an "IN" with the illustrious NY Nana?

115 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:06:16pm

re: #110 savage_nation

My kid went to the docs for her second ultrasound and now we know!

She is going to have a little girl!

:D :D :D :D !

Well, congratulations on that!
You sure sound like a proud and enchanted gramps! LOL

I'm so glad for you! I have a grand-daughter and she's amazing! Love in person ;)

116 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:06:17pm
117 wolfie  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:06:33pm

re: #110 savage_nation

My kid went to the docs for her second ultrasound and now we know!

She is going to have a little girl!

:D :D :D :D !

Faith Marie ! (?) :D

118 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:06:53pm
119 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:06:58pm
120 brainwizard73  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:07:00pm

re: #112 stevieray

You get the feeling that "we" Americans are just minor players in the story already written?

Imagine what would happen if the "extras" in a movie rose up and tossed out the "stars"...

121 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:07:09pm
122 Inquisitive  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:07:20pm

re: #110 savage_nation

My kid went to the docs for her second ultrasound and now we know!

She is going to have a little girl!

:D :D :D :D !

Congratulations!

123 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:07:47pm

re: #113 brainwizard73

Congratulations to you all. Not sure if this the first one or not, but little girls are great gifts...I get the feeling I might question that in 14 years or so...but so be it.

Shhhh...

Don't get me nervous lol

124 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:08:19pm
125 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:08:39pm
126 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:08:48pm

re: #118 savage_nation

Mike, I sure am, believe it!

:D :D :D :D

127 ggt  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:09:09pm

re: #103 MigueldowninMexico

LOL!

128 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:09:19pm
129 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:09:37pm
130 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:09:42pm

re: #120 brainwizard73

You get the feeling that "we" Americans are just minor players in the story already written?

Imagine what would happen if the "extras" in a movie rose up and tossed out the "stars"...

Don't want it it happen like that. We could end up with some totally screwed up movie like Assault on Precinct 13, or even worse, Alien or United 93.

131 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:09:47pm

re: #124 song_and_dance_man

I wanted many children, but at least I have my only child - a son.

Exactly the same here.

He's good for two lol

132 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:10:06pm
133 gop_patriot  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:10:13pm

re: #104 LeePro

Cool! :)

134 Inquisitive  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:10:14pm

re: #125 savage_nation

There will be a shit load of Cohibas with little pink wrappers all over the city of Lincoln, as many as I can afford.

You go GRANDPA!
Remember the butterflies! (on that furniture you plan to make)

135 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:10:39pm
136 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:11:26pm

re: #127 ggt

LOL!

Heh. Get ready for the last days of August lol

137 gop_patriot  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:11:40pm

re: #110 savage_nation

OH congratulations! I have a daughter, my middle child. She's just awesome. :)

138 ggt  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:12:02pm

I'm falling asleep at the keyboard. Hopefully my lapop will be back from the repair fairy this week and I won't have to fight my kid for the famiy PC --and I'll get to spend more time with you-all!

Have a great evening and congrats to Savage!

139 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:12:12pm
140 brainwizard73  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:12:24pm

re: #130 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Don't want it it happen like that. We could end up with some totally screwed up movie like Assault on Precinct 13, or even worse, Alien or United 93.

To all the representiatives of the federal government:

I am not, repeat not, calling for the violent overthrow of the United States.

Just having fun with metaphors...

141 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:12:25pm

re: #129 savage_nation

Blessings to you!

/I am in 77th heaven. No sleep tonight, must plan, must plan!

We'd all love to see the plan!
The Beatles...
:p

142 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:12:30pm

Hi and bye, Lizards. Got to get up at 4:00 for this state election in Calif.....going to be a long dull day tomorrow.

LeePro...NY Nana is the best!

143 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:12:44pm
144 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:13:21pm

re: #139 song_and_dance_man

He is a good son and I hope yours is the same blessing in your life as mine is to me.

He indeed is.

Thanks a lot for that.
And congratulations too.

A good son is a huge blessing :)

145 pat  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:13:22pm

Obama wanted to be anything but white his whole adult life. Seduced by the anti-white culture, but reveling in affirmative action, he has become a poster boy for non achievement. A true savant idiot.

146 LeePro  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:13:44pm

re: #119 song_and_dance_man

We email each other now and then.

She's just cool. Just talked about kids, grandkids, computer non-geek stuff, political assholes... you know... the usual.

147 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:13:52pm
148 U.S.S. Nixon  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:14:24pm

re: #145 pat

Obama wanted to be anything but white his whole adult life. Seduced by the anti-white culture, but reveling in affirmative action, he has become a poster boy for non achievement. A true savant idiot.

Explains the church, his friends and his wife.

149 pat  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:14:33pm

Well of course NYNana is cool I could have told you that. lol.

150 Inquisitive  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:14:48pm

This Baby is Your Blessing,
I wish Happiness in every way,
Good Luck God Bless, I say
And Many Blessings and Wishes,
To Welcome Baby Into Your Life Today.
Author Unknown

Ten fingers, Ten toes
She's laughter and teardrops
So small and brand new
And amazingly angelic
She's sent to bless you
She's one special Baby
The best of life's treasure
And will grant and bless you
Many hours of great pleasure.
Author Unknown

151 U.S.S. Nixon  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:15:00pm

re: #147 savage_nation

My wife is a little disappointed, she wanted her first grandbaby to be a boy.

congratulations Savage. Good luck and get those cigars ready

152 RTLM  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:15:09pm

Most important vote tomorrow - in South Dakota.

LINK

Union County residents vote Tuesday on Hyperion Resources' request to zone nearly 3,300 acres of pristine farm land north of Elk Point as a development district for the $10 billion oil refinery, billed as a potential step toward national energy independence.
The proposal has been a contentious issue in this southeast corner of South Dakota, with supporters citing economic development benefits and opponents voicing environmental and quality-of-life concerns. Both sides have been campaigning door to door.
Just under 10,000 of Union County's 13,462 residents are registered to vote Tuesday.
The Hyperion Energy Center would process 400,000 barrels of thick Canadian crude oil a day, which company executives say would help the U.S. reduce its dependence on overseas oil. Construction could begin in 2010 and take about four years.

Project opponent Jason Quam rejects the argument that Union County needs saving. The county is doing well economically with a low unemployment rate and one of the highest median household incomes in the state, he said.
Quam, a Union County resident with the group Citizens Against Oil Pollution, said he thinks much of the refinery's public support comes from outside the county.
He believes residents will reject the proposed zoning change, saying they realize that a refinery would bring unneeded pollution to a beautiful area built on agriculture.

ETA: Right on top of the Bakken oil field.

153 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:15:45pm

re: #143 savage_nation

And all the days of September too

HAHAHAHA.

I was talking about the Dem convention lol

But of course we are all ready for Oct 3rd ;)

154 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:15:52pm
155 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:16:10pm
156 hermeneutics  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:16:13pm

re: #145 pat

My daughter has a roommate who is mostly African-American ... but tries to deny the stereotypical black of urban lore, etc.

And Obama, who is about as black as my daughter's roommate, tries to deny his stereotypcial middle class whiteness.

Why?

157 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:16:19pm

re: #143 savage_nation
Congratulations, Savage. We had one girl. She is such a blessing.

158 brainwizard73  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:16:42pm

re: #148 U.S.S. Nixon

Barack Obama: When "keeping it real" goes horribly wrong...

159 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:16:43pm

re: #138 ggt

I'm falling asleep at the keyboard. Hopefully my lapop will be back from the repair fairy this week and I won't have to fight my kid for the famiy PC --and I'll get to spend more time with you-all!

Have a great evening and congrats to Savage!

Good night ggt!
Sleep well :)

160 joecitizen  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:17:13pm

re: #110 savage_nation

My kid went to the docs for her second ultrasound and now we know!

She is going to have a little girl!

:D :D :D :D !

congrats congrats! girlies are the best...

161 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:17:15pm

re: #132 song_and_dance_man

apropos

Ya' think?

162 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:17:21pm
163 pat  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:17:35pm

re: #152 RTLM

Anyone who has been to SD, which has been losing population for 15 years, know that the environmentalists do not live there. Again, this is about preventing other from having a living.

164 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:17:36pm

re: #142 Pvt Bin Jammin

Hi and bye, Lizards. Got to get up at 4:00 for this state election in Calif.....going to be a long dull day tomorrow.

LeePro...NY Nana is the best!

Good night Pvt!
Have a good night sleep ;)

165 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:18:06pm
166 pat  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:18:42pm

re: #156 hermeneutics

I have no idea, I am part black and Hispanic. I ID with white America.

167 LeePro  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:18:57pm

re: #128 MandyManners

Mandy - [from downstairs thread]

What Winkin' Blinkin' & Nod song? I know only of poem...

168 LeePro  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:20:32pm

re: #133 gop_patriot

Cool! :)

Like you and me. You'd like her, I'm sure!

169 brainwizard73  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:20:39pm

My four year old is waking up with night terrors every night about 10:00 or so. He cries out that something is coming for him...

Can anyone account for Michelle Obama at that time of day?

170 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:21:07pm

re: #169 brainwizard73

My four year old is waking up with night terrors every night about 10:00 or so. He cries out that something is coming for him...

Can anyone account for Michelle Obama at that time of day?

Hahahahaha

171 haakondahl  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:21:28pm

re: #23 slokat

So it looks like BHO is evolving, question is can he evolve fast enough by November to survive?

Well, there is certainly no intelligent design in his case.

172 hermeneutics  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:21:29pm

re: #166 pat

That's fascinating, Pat. Really. I was just thinking how we deny some aspects of ourselves while overemphasizing other aspects. Race is just one of these aspects.

You know the old tale about reacting to our parents by becoming the opposite?

173 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:21:30pm

re: #167 LeePro

Mandy - [from downstairs thread]

What Winkin' Blinkin' & Nod song? I know only of poem...

Carly Simon and her sister are the only ones on youtube I can find singing it but, I seem to remember James Taylor or someone else from that era singing it.

174 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:22:06pm

re: #172 hermeneutics

That's fascinating, Pat. Really. I was just thinking how we deny some aspects of ourselves while overemphasizing other aspects. Race is just one of these aspects.

You know the old tale about reacting to our parents by becoming the opposite?

I reacted to my mother by becoming a man

///

175 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:22:21pm
176 brainwizard73  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:22:37pm

re: #170 MigueldowninMexico

Deepest apologies, but I can't let an Obama thread go without at least two gratuitous shots at the future First Shrew.

177 pat  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:22:44pm

re: #170 MigueldowninMexico

Spiders. Bug spray. Baby out of room.
/Beware of Freaks.

178 hermeneutics  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:23:14pm

re: #174 MigueldowninMexico

I reacted to my mother by being sane.

179 wolfie  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:23:31pm

re: #145 pat

Obama wanted to be anything but white his whole adult life. Seduced by the anti-white culture, but reveling in affirmative action, he has become a poster boy for non achievement. A true savant idiot.

Dreams From My Father..........I almost felt sorry for him when I read it. We could blame his father for deserting him, to be sure. But his self-loathing, anti-white, Marxist mother is the worst offender, I fear. Very sad, because he is not an idiot at all, and he could have done so much had he not been schooled in racial obsession.
In the end, he chose to be an ideological dupe and a manipulator, rather than a thinker and a doer.

180 gop_patriot  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:24:12pm

re: #147 savage_nation

My wife is a little disappointed, she wanted her first grandbaby to be a boy.

She'll probably change her tune the when she sees all the cute little dresses while she's out shopping. lol I wanted a girl first, but got a son. As soon as I bought the first boy outfit, I decided that a boy was pretty cool too. :)

181 freetoken  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:24:17pm

re: #152 RTLM

Most important vote tomorrow - in South Dakota.

LINK


ETA: Right on top of the Bakken oil field.

Well, the Bakken area is in ND, and even then the output there will not be that significant. More importantly, if the proposed refinery is designed for the product of upgraded Canadian tar product then that is a different source than the Bakken area oil (which is supposedly fairly high quality.)

Nevertheless, you raise and important point - NIMBYism. It turns out that yesterday an interesting bit of research was released:
Nine Out of Ten Americans Making Lifestyle Changes to Cope With Rising Energy Costs, RBC Survey Says


[...]
Americans' NIMBY "Not In My Backyard" syndrome also appears to be waning. Only 16 per cent of Americans said that they would oppose the construction of any type of energy plant or facility in their hometown, down from 23 per cent in 2007. Seventy-one per cent of Americans said they would support an alternative-energy system in their hometown, including a wind or solar facility, up from 58 per cent last year; 34 per cent would support a clean coal technology plant (up from 27 per cent last year); 32 per cent would support a liquefied natural gas facility (up from 25 per cent last year); and 21 per cent would support a nuclear power plant (up from 17 per cent). Nevertheless, the survey found that although a majority of Americans attribute the rapid rise in gas prices to a lack of oil refining capacity in the U.S., eight out of 10 said they oppose the construction of an oil refinery in their hometown.
182 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:24:29pm

re: #176 brainwizard73

Deepest apologies, but I can't let an Obama thread go without at least two gratuitous shots at the future First Shrew.

Well, the more she shines with her own starlight, the more difficul it will be not to notice her.


/The wife of Mexico City's commie major the other day gave a speech and she was drunk! It was all over YouTube and laughs were abundant all over the land LOL

/Sometimes, relatives are a handicap!

183 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:25:17pm

re: #177 pat

Spiders. Bug spray. Baby out of room.
/Beware of Freaks.

Yes, I am aware and ready! lol

184 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:25:30pm
185 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:25:34pm

re: #178 hermeneutics

I reacted to my mother by being sane.

Hahahahahahaha!

186 hermeneutics  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:25:38pm

I'm exhausted. Tomorrow will be another beautiful day. Lets rejoice!

Good night.

187 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:25:49pm

re: #184 savage_nation

Is there a copy of that with English subtitles?

Let me rummage lol

188 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:25:54pm

Ted Kennedy.

/Brain Salad Surgery

189 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:26:06pm
190 hermeneutics  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:26:08pm

re: #185 MigueldowninMexico

She was a psychiatrist. I'm serious.

Good night ... again.

191 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:26:29pm
192 pat  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:26:38pm

re: #179 wolfie

Which is why I dubbed him a savant-idiot, and not the other way around. He chose his course of hatred, pretending it is love. He chose to be stupid, pretending it was knowledge.

193 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:26:44pm

re: #162 savage_nation

re: #164 MigueldowninMexico
Nite, you two, and anybody these old eyes missed. Take care!
Love all the lizards.

194 joecitizen  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:26:49pm

re: #175 song_and_dance_man

Yes. The pandering is pathetic.


pandering?

195 gop_patriot  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:26:56pm

re: #168 LeePro

I'm sure I would, if she's like us... Because quite frankly, it takes some doing to be as awesome as we are.

ROFLOL ;)

196 Pawn of the Oppressor  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:27:38pm

re: #2 victor_yugo

The Times will print a retraction, on page B-11, in the lower right-hand corner.

In 6-point print.

In Swahili.

You'll no more get a retraction out of the times than you'd get an apology from a puppy for pissing on the carpet. The NYT is a reactionary mouthpiece of leftist self-justification, not a producer of rational, considerate writing.

197 pat  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:28:34pm

Well, enough philosophy from the soulless. Nite all. Miguel: Go Tp Bed. :)

198 wolfie  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:28:48pm

re: #186 hermeneutics

I'm exhausted. Tomorrow will be another beautiful day. Lets rejoice!

Good night.

Good night, hermie! Enjoy the mountain air!

199 MandyManners  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:29:14pm

re: #175 song_and_dance_man

Drop me a line, please.

200 wolfie  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:29:24pm

re: #192 pat

Well said.

201 LeePro  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:29:56pm

re: #149 pat

Well of course NYNana is cool I could have told you that. lol.

So could everyone else here. Lucky for me, found out first hand!

Hey, Nana!
You lurking out there? Soaking up all this mushy mushy?

hee hee

202 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:30:10pm
203 RTLM  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:30:27pm

re: #181 freetoken

Its a start. I'm glad to see it. And judging by the lack of news coverage it stands a good chance of passing.

I hope pat is right re: the lack of Mother Gaya fanatics in SD.

204 brainwizard73  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:30:46pm

re: #182 MigueldowninMexico

Well, the more she shines with her own starlight, the more difficul it will be not to notice her.


/The wife of Mexico City's commie major the other day gave a speech and she was drunk! It was all over YouTube and laughs were abundant all over the land LOL

/Sometimes, relatives are a handicap!

Yeah, but Barack CHOSE her...he didn't get pinned to that donkey by blood.

He made a conscious decision to hitch his wagon to a woman that takes the worst of Theresssa Heinz-Kerry, Sister Souljah, Madonna and Maureen Dowd and still manages to be more unlikeable than just about anything this side of Kathy Griffin.

Here's hoping she goes to San Fran to give some long talks with lots of Q&A and someone records it.

205 wolfie  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:31:04pm

Time for me to creep into the den myself!
Goodnight to all!

206 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:31:11pm

re: #184 savage_nation

Is there a copy of that with English subtitles?

No, I don't find anything in English. Unfortunately.


She started by saying: "welcome me, well not, welcome you. I am the one who's comming, so welcome me, but NO!, you are on your town, your land, so welcome you!"
And so on for about 10 minutes. It was hillarious!
ROFLMBO!

207 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:32:10pm

re: #190 hermeneutics

She was a psychiatrist. I'm serious.

Good night ... again.

Oops! OK. I said nothing ;)

Good night and sleep well!

208 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:32:53pm

re: #197 pat

Well, enough philosophy from the soulless. Nite all. Miguel: Go Tp Bed. :)

Aloha Pat!
Sleep well :)

209 redc1c4  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:33:09pm

re: #145 pat

Obama wanted to be anything but white his whole adult life. Seduced by the anti-white culture, but reveling in affirmative action, he has become a poster boy for non achievement. A true savant idiot.

he's just your garden variety idiot...... nothing special about him.

210 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:33:27pm

re: #197 pat

Well, enough philosophy from the soulless. Nite all. Miguel: Go Tp Bed. :)

Yes Sir! ;)

211 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:34:24pm
212 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:34:58pm

re: #205 wolfie

Time for me to creep into the den myself!
Goodnight to all!

Good night wolfie!
Sleep tight :)

213 pat  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:37:44pm

And wolfie. low growllllll. (wolf kiss, or so this old animal next to me says) nite.

214 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:38:08pm

re: #211 savage_nation

teee hee. Well, post the raw version so my Mexican neighbors can get a good laugh when I get back home.

Here

They are gonna love it! LOL

She doesn't even know which date it is! LOL

215 redc1c4  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:38:22pm

re: #203 RTLM

Its a start. I'm glad to see it. And judging by the lack of news coverage it stands a good chance of passing.

I hope pat is right re: the lack of Mother Gaya fanatics in SD.

if i lived in SD i'd be all in favor of something that could produce heating oil for me to burn.......

/gets a bit cold up there

216 brainwizard73  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:38:29pm

re: #209 redc1c4

he's just your garden variety idiot...... nothing special about him.

Uh, I don't know about that entirely. This guy has found a way to sell the proverbial snake-oil from the back of his El Camino to a lot of people.

Are the people stupid? Sure, some are.
Is the media giving him a pass on a lot of stuff? Often, yes.
Does he (or do his people) have a plan and some good sale jobs for us dumb bitter hicks? Polls suggest, yes.

Regardless of what is underneath it would appear he is selling at least some people on his cure for sanity. Does he get all the credit? No, but he must be doing something effectively.

After all Chris Matthews won't tingle for just anyone.

217 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:40:50pm
218 LeePro  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:42:55pm

re: #173 MandyManners

Carly Simon and her sister are the only ones on youtube I can find singing it but, I seem to remember James Taylor or someone else from that era singing it.

Cool.

Also found this!
SAVAGE, you're probably gonna need this... Wynken, Blynken & Nod (Disney 1938)

219 victor_yugo  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:43:47pm

Hey, Savage, sorry about the drop-out, I needed to clean up after a nasty night's work. One of the graveyard shifters thinks with his d*ck, and he tried to pick a fight with me tonight. I do need to write a report on the incident, to turn in to the site manager tomorrow before my shift.

Rumor had it here that you were applying for Chief Waterboarder of the CIA?

/imagining savage_nation in neoprene
//*wibble*

220 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:44:15pm

re: #217 savage_nation

She sounds way fucked up, and I dont speak a word of Spanish. haha

Right! LOL
YOu can tell she's blasted lol
Imagine native speakers.

She saids she has gotten 400, no, 4500, no 404 women together for some project.
It's hillarious!

221 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:46:13pm
222 Inquisitive  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:46:17pm

Almost 2a.m guess I better go lay this head on a pillow for awhile. Everyone take care of yourselves! Good night to all! ! !

223 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:46:48pm
224 MigueldowninMexico  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:48:52pm

re: #222 Inquisitive

Almost 2a.m guess I better go lay this head on a pillow for awhile. Everyone take care of yourselves! Good night to all! ! !

Good night, sleep well!

225 victor_yugo  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:50:02pm

re: #223 savage_nation

wow, who nominated me?

Mars Needs Neocons?

226 LeePro  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:52:12pm

re: #221 savage_nation

Oh, my Mom used to read that to me and my brother when we were very very little.

Me, too, to my little ones (way back!). Could never get through the whole thing without tearing up (as in boo hoo). It's such a sweet little tale!

227 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:54:48pm
228 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:55:29pm
229 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:55:54pm
230 victor_yugo  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:56:16pm

re: #228 savage_nation

Oh yeah, well, here is an update on that pig. He's making himself scarce since one of his friends found out that I am gunning for him. He's safe for the next 3 weeks but woe to him when I corner his ass, and this time I'm not playing. Cocksucker stole my wifes bank card so the cops are looking for him too.

He'd better hope the cops find him first.

231 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:56:29pm
232 LeePro  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:57:39pm

re: #221 savage_nation

Here ya' go!

Read it through without crying!

233 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:58:12pm
234 TrollBot PrtoType Six  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:58:19pm

re: #49 hermeneutics

Good evening, GGT -- all is well. Not entirely, though.

Obama leads McCain in MN, WA and OR.

MN -- 47 to 42
WA -- 52 to 36
OR -- 49 to 39

This is Survey USA's poll among Registered, not likely, voters. Just released but the poll was done 16-18 May, at Obama's peak.

Minnesota has not gone to a republican since 1972.
I don't see that changing anytime soon.

235 Mel Lono  Mon, Jun 2, 2008 11:58:45pm

re: #215 redc1c4

Just got in.. Thanks again. No cosmos tonight but had a mint julep returned last night. They said it was too sweet, well duh. Why ruin good bourbon? now I have to refine the recipe. Hello all others.

236 LeePro  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:00:34am

Then it was you left it here one night! I found it over there ⤴ next to that chair...

237 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:00:54am
238 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:00:57am

re: #236 LeePro

Then it was you left it here one night! I found it over there ⤴ next to that chair...

LOL!

239 Mel Lono  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:01:37am

re: #227 song_and_dance_man

Mind digging me up some Neil Young grunge? I hear tell red's into punk and he needs a graduation song.

240 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:02:39am
241 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:03:14am

re: #240 savage_nation

All I'm gonna say is he will NEVER see that baby, ever. I'll make sure of that.

Isn't that too much?

Let the ire call down for a while.

242 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:03:28am

re: #241 MigueldowninMexico

Isn't that too much?

Let the ire call down for a while.

COOL down, I meant.

243 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:04:22am

re: #240 savage_nation

All I'm gonna say is he will NEVER see that baby, ever. I'll make sure of that.

How? You have no legal rights to your step-grandchild.

244 LeePro  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:05:42am

re: #238 MigueldowninMexico

LOL!

;D

¡Holå, Miguél!

245 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:05:44am
246 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:06:38am
247 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:06:41am

re: #244 LeePro

;D

¡Holå, Miguél!

Wow a Danish Hola lol ;)

Can I have one with cafe-au-lait? ;)

248 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:07:27am

re: #245 savage_nation

He's a liar, a thief, a conman, a drunk, a drug dealer and a lot of other things too. I have seen his juvenile record, if he did the stuff as an adult as he did when he was a kid, he would be in state prison for something like 20 years

That is very sad, my friend. Sorry to read that.

249 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:07:42am
250 victor_yugo  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:07:57am

re: #246 savage_nation

I am the legal guardian of my stepkids. All in black and white, signed by the court last week.

W00T!

251 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:08:07am
252 LeePro  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:08:15am

re: #243 MandyManners

How? You have no legal rights to your step-grandchild.

Even if... only the mom would have that battle.

253 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:09:51am

re: #246 savage_nation

I am the legal guardian of my stepkids. All in black and white, signed by the court last week.

Once she reaches majority soon, it's gone. Also, he can get parenting time through the courts. You will have no legal rights over the infant.

254 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:09:53am
255 LeePro  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:11:16am

re: #247 MigueldowninMexico

Wow a Danish Hola lol ;)

Can I have one with cafe-au-lait? ;)

How do you say "Just shut up!" en Éspañol?

I hit the wrong fuckin' key! ! !

256 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:11:46am

re: #255 LeePro

How do you say "Just shut up!" en Éspañol?

I hit the wrong fuckin' key! ! !

¿Por qué no te callas? LOL

257 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:11:52am
258 baconeatingkaffir  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:12:45am

Why does this guy remind me of some of the guys from my military days who used to tell me "I can't be racist because I'm black". Of course they'd point out that I was racist for even accusing them of being racist.... and if you don't believe that.... you're racist! (yuk yuk yuk yuk!)
I'm trying to see what the media and the lefties see in this clown who doesn't seem to know anything. Do we really want a president who talks like a character out of a bad "Starskey and Hutch" episode?

259 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:13:23am
260 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:13:27am
261 joecitizen  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:14:13am

re: #257 savage_nation

The baby is going to be put up for adoption. He will be denied any contact with the child. End of story.

I hope he cries his eyes out until the day he dies, which I hope is a very long time from now.

and what of you and your tears,,,I'd kill before anyone took my STEPGRANDDAUGHTER away from her home...

262 victor_yugo  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:14:28am

re: #255 LeePro

How do you say "Just shut up!" en Éspañol?

I hit the wrong fuckin' key! ! !

¿Por qué no te callas?

263 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:14:59am

re: #257 savage_nation

The baby is going to be put up for adoption. He will be denied any contact with the child. End of story.

I hope he cries his eyes out until the day he dies, which I hope is a very long time from now.

The baby cannot be put up for adoption unless he signs off on the adoption.

264 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:15:05am
265 LeePro  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:16:33am

re: #256 MigueldowninMexico

¿Por qué no te callas? LOL

LOL

¡un chanza!

¡un chanza!

266 baconeatingkaffir  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:17:07am

re: #259 savage_nation

Yeah, but still I dont think I'd want him as President... pimpin' out the presidential limo and all. *lol* still, he may be more honest than other candidates.

267 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:17:09am

re: #259 savage_nation

I'm concerned too.

Think very well before taking any radical action (s).
Please.

268 joecitizen  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:17:22am

re: #263 MandyManners

The baby cannot be put up for adoption unless he signs off on the adoption.

at least until his parental rights are terminated..which can be done..not easy,but possible...

269 victor_yugo  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:17:37am

re: #261 joecitizen

and what of you and your tears,,,I'd kill before anyone took my STEPGRANDDAUGHTER away from her home...

The tears are a small price to pay for the knowledge that the kidlet will be raised by a capable, ready, and tremendously loving parents.

Both adoptees I've known, who found their birth mothers, reported to me that their birth mothers were sad, but not regretful, for their decisions.

270 victor_yugo  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:18:27am

re: #263 MandyManners

The baby cannot be put up for adoption unless he signs off on the adoption.

Taking off to another state is easily turned into a case of abandonment.

271 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:18:34am

re: #265 LeePro

LOL

¡un chanza!

¡un chanza!

LOL

272 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:20:22am

re: #268 joecitizen

at least until his parental rights are terminated..which can be done..not easy,but possible...

Very difficult.

re: #270 victor_yugo

Taking off to another state is easily turned into a case of abandonment.

Abandoment is defined pretty strictly.

273 lostlakehiker  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:20:39am

re: #84 Killian Bundy

Because that's the style. The content is problematic, shall we say, but the style is nothing exceptional.

274 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:21:24am

They've got a real moonbat twit on Redeye.

/gee, never guess who she supports

275 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:21:54am
276 joecitizen  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:22:47am

re: #274 Killian Bundy

They've got a real moonbat twit on Redeye.

/gee, never guess who she supports


wow...love the Red Eye..1st time I've seen it mentioned here...

277 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:23:15am
278 joecitizen  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:24:04am

re: #272 MandyManners

Abandoment is defined pretty strictly.


yes.time consuming,expensive and frustrating...but ultimately VERY worth it..

279 LeePro  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:24:17am

re: #257 savage_nation

The baby is going to be put up for adoption. He will be denied any contact with the child. End of story.

I hope he cries his eyes out until the day he dies, which I hope is a very long time from now.

Now I'm really curious... adoption probably good idea, but what was this about...?

#129 savage_nation
/I am in 77th heaven. No sleep tonight, must plan, must plan!

Plans?

/ just curious...

280 Mel Lono  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:25:38am

re: #260 song_and_dance_man

My favorite song by Young is Heart of Gold - and if your son is graduating I think it's appropriate.

Actually, I had something more like this in mind.

Neil and Pearl Jam

281 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:26:01am

re: #268 joecitizen

at least until his parental rights are terminated..which can be done..not easy,but possible...

/good luck with that if it's contested

282 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:26:41am
283 victor_yugo  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:26:46am

re: #272 MandyManners

Abandoment is defined pretty strictly.

Unless a judge decides otherwise. After all, isn't that the judge's job?

284 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:27:22am
285 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:27:24am
286 victor_yugo  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:27:56am

re: #282 savage_nation

We have met the prospective adoptive parents. Early thirties with good careers. Nice people. I have to think of what is best for that baby. We all do.

Oh, so "Juno", but with Freddie Kruger instead of a basketball player?

287 joecitizen  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:28:15am

re: #281 Killian Bundy

/good luck with that if it's contested


unless it's contested by a crackhead whore and her racist fuck family...I'm just sayin'...

288 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:28:53am
289 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:29:30am

re: #275 savage_nation

He might NOT be the father. A long but true story.

You haven't figured that out yet?

/is there a line?

290 LeePro  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:29:41am

re: #284 savage_nation

I'll send you an email about this with names and such.

No, no.

No need for that. Don't need/want details. Your #282 clarifies!

291 joecitizen  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:29:57am

re: #282 savage_nation

They have a program called open adoption in Nebraska. The birth mother has complete visitation rights whenever she wants, within reason. It's in the legal contract. I think its a great program.

We have met the prospective adoptive parents. Early thirties with good careers. Nice people. I have to think of what is best for that baby. We all do.


sorry man,ya know I love ya..but that's just crazy nonsense..I couldn't live with myself...

292 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:30:07am
293 victor_yugo  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:30:47am

re: #288 savage_nation

They are Orthodox Jews.

No, no, not the family, the sperm donor!

294 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:31:42am
295 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:32:02am
296 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:32:07am

re: #287 joecitizen

unless it's contested by a crackhead whore and her racist fuck family...I'm just sayin'...

/I don't see any side of this ongoing soap opera as particularly wholesome

297 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:32:35am

re: #283 victor_yugo

Unless a judge decides otherwise. After all, isn't that the judge's job?

Not that I've seen. It's statutory law and judges follow it.

298 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:32:38am
299 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:33:12am

Lee
What you said LOL

300 LeePro  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:34:32am

re: #299 MigueldowninMexico

;D

301 joecitizen  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:34:34am

re: #296 Killian Bundy

/I don't see any side of this ongoing soap opera as particularly wholesome

I was speaking particularly of my current situation with that comment and it is completely wholesome,life affirming and righteous,if I do say so...and
I do.

302 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:34:39am
303 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:34:59am

re: #300 LeePro

;D

Heh.

304 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:35:54am

Morning all just checking in and saying hi.

305 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:36:16am

re: #304 BlueCanuck

Morning all just checking in and saying hi.

Hello Blue! :)

306 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:36:31am

re: #304 BlueCanuck

Hi!

If you don't mind my asking but, where do you live if it's morning already?

307 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:37:02am
308 LeePro  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:37:22am

re: #303 MigueldowninMexico

Heh2

309 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:37:41am

re: #308 LeePro

LOL!

310 victor_yugo  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:37:45am

re: #296 Killian Bundy

/I don't see any side of this ongoing soap opera as particularly wholesome

My mother only watches "wholesome" movies.

Which is why she digs the Lethal Weapon series and the first two Terminator flicks.

The baddies get theirs.

/well, and the line "they've been de-kaffirnated"
//and "but, but... you're black!"

311 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:38:00am
312 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:38:01am

re: #292 savage_nation

I just found out about this a week ago.

/a suspected paternal blood test compared with amniocentesis will answer the question

313 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:38:25am

re: #306 MandyManners

Toronto. :)

/morning for me is after midnight.

314 Mel Lono  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:39:14am

re: #285 song_and_dance_man

What can I say? I am stuck in the 60 and 70's with the exception of really great guitarists since then.

My son is not red, but he's almost 16 and his favorite music is oldies. He even knows who Norman Greenbaum is. Started him on Eagles, didnt know who the Beatles were still last year. Getting into Dire Straits, Psych fur, but it's a long road. Hasnt even filled half his Ipod yet.

315 victor_yugo  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:39:26am

re: #312 Killian Bundy

/a suspected paternal blood test compared with amniocentesis will answer the question

Amniocentesis is very frowned on now, from what I've heard.

316 LeePro  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:39:34am

re: #306 MandyManners

Hi!

If you don't mind my asking but, where do you live if it's morning already?

It's mornin' HERE, Mandy! 2:39am!

I think it's time for you to go to bed, young lady. Now put down that bottle...

317 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:40:09am
318 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:40:20am

re: #301 joecitizen

I was speaking particularly of my current situation with that comment and it is completely wholesome,life affirming and righteous,if I do say so...and
I do.

/my bad

319 LeePro  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:40:33am

re: #304 BlueCanuck

Morning all just checking in and saying hi.

Hey {Blue}! You feelin' better?

320 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:40:55am

re: #313 BlueCanuck

I'm up way past my bed time. Gonna' hit the hay soon.

Have a great day!

321 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:40:59am
322 joecitizen  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:41:11am

ok sweet Lizards..I have baby Emily,she has her Happypappy,the PENGUINS WIN,and it's been a longlong day...g'night and may all yer dreams be scaley...

323 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:41:20am

re: #316 LeePro

Ha!

324 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:41:34am

re: #322 joecitizen

ok sweet Lizards..I have baby Emily,she has her Happypappy,the PENGUINS WIN,and it's been a longlong day...g'night and may all yer dreams be scaley...

Sleep well! :)

325 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:41:39am
326 Karridine  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:42:11am

re: #317 savage_nation

Fight the GOOD fight, Nation!

/I wish you all the best, Sir!

327 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:42:48am

re: #315 victor_yugo

Amniocentesis is very frowned on now, from what I've heard.

/CVS then

328 LeePro  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:43:05am

re: #317 savage_nation

HIS biological father is the one that suggested it in the first place. His mother is a complete psycho (think Carries mother)

Yikes ! ! !

329 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:43:06am

re: #319 LeePro

{LeePro}

Yeah, finally got to the doctor yesterday. Sometimes I am thankful for our health care system other times not. Yesterday was a bit of both.

330 sparrowlake  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:43:13am

Hi night lizards.
Pity me please - I'm up on puke watch tonight - really bad flu bug is going around the house.

331 victor_yugo  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:43:34am

Who here reads Chinese?

This might be important.

332 Mel Lono  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:43:39am

re: #285 song_and_dance_man

I am stuck in the 60 and 70's with the exception of really great guitarists since then.

You might like this one then.
acoustic Neil and PJ "Throw Your Hatred Down"

333 Pawn of the Oppressor  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:43:50am

re: #314 Mel Lono

My son is not red, but he's almost 16 and his favorite music is oldies. He even knows who Norman Greenbaum is. Started him on Eagles, didnt know who the Beatles were still last year. Getting into Dire Straits, Psych fur, but it's a long road. Hasnt even filled half his Ipod yet.

The Psychedelic Furs are not a band I see mentioned often. I only have MP3s of "Love My Way" and "Pretty In Pink", but I do know who they are. ;)

I remember when Boston's WFNX would actually play so-called "alternative" music. I used to stay up listening to them in the wee hours of the morning when I was a teenager...

334 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:44:32am

re: #310 victor_yugo

My mother only watches "wholesome" movies.

Which is why she digs the Lethal Weapon series and the first two Terminator flicks.

The baddies get theirs.

/well, and the line "they've been de-kaffirnated"
//and "but, but... you're black!"

Mel Gibson's anti-semitism and Danny Glover's nonstop fawning over 3rd world socialist dictators have sucked any enjoyment out of the whole Lethal Weapon franchise for me

335 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:44:46am

re: #330 sparrowlake

Hi night lizards.
Pity me please - I'm up on puke watch tonight - really bad flu bug is going around the house.

May God heal you all soon!
I hope you have a good night.

336 Mel Lono  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:44:49am

re: #321 savage_nation

Moody Blues are a great addition to that IPod.

At the end of "Nights in White Satin" we turn the gong to bass high.

337 LeePro  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:44:59am

re: #323 MandyManners

Ha!

Winkin' Blinkin' and...KLUNK! [head meets keyboard]

338 victor_yugo  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:46:21am

re: #334 Fenway_Nation

Mel Gibson's anti-semitism and Danny Glover's nonstop fawning over 3rd world socialist dictators have sucked any enjoyment out of the whole Lethal Weapon franchise for me

They're a turn-off for her, too, but she can put that aside and enjoy some good butt-kickin'.

Also, when they're on broadcast TV, it isn't like she's paying royalties through some theater chain or video rental to watch them.

339 sparrowlake  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:46:53am

re: #335 MigueldowninMexico

Thanks, amigo.

340 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:47:15am

re: #339 sparrowlake

Thanks, amigo.

Sure! :)

341 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:47:47am
342 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:48:17am
343 victor_yugo  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:49:19am

re: #341 savage_nation

Yeah, this woman (who is only in her early 40's) is exactly like Carrie White's mother. Bible thumping freakazoid. Everyone will go to Hell. Hates the Jews. Hates the blacks. Despises anyone not WASP.

Those are the funnest kind to toy with. Easy, too.

344 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:49:54am
345 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:49:57am
346 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:50:31am
347 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:54:36am

I just want to go on record as saying that 3OT Red Wings/Penguins game tonight was insane! Sure Detroit still has the lead in the series, but how much of a kick in the gut must it have been for the Red Wings organization to be not even 35 seconds away from wheeling out the cup and skating that celebratory lap when....whoopsie...that critical tying goal slips by Osgood.

348 Mel Lono  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:54:45am

re: #333 Pawn of the Oppressor

Had to go pull out the live CD, Mr.Jones.. India etc. But ran into my old Pink Floyd collection. Meddle might have to get on the list too, especially Seamus, the one with the singing dog.

349 Karridine  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:55:12am

re: #345 savage_nation

Now a small story.

I fought for the right to continue raising our son when my wife split, with "her" son, even after I begged her to stay.

"I know what I'm doing..." she said.

When our divorce came to court (in the moonbat capital of North-West America) our judge had an unbroken record of awarding to mothers. Period. State habit was 19 to Mom for every 1 for Dad.

16 months later, after firing my lawyer and writing my own "Motion to Reconsider and Reverse", he DID reconsider and DID reverse his previous decision, for the first time in his judgy life/career!

So my ex kidnapped the boy!

350 Mel Lono  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:56:07am

re: #344 song_and_dance_man

My son, 14, just last week bought a Zeppelin poster and is now hanging on his room wall. Not that I'm proud of that, but it serves to show that great music was generated in the 70's and is recognized by kids nowadays.

I took him to see Rush a few weeks ago and he absolutely loved it. He is now a Rush fan and has included many songs from them on his iPod. And for what it's worth, because of my influence he is a Beatle music fan.

Truth!

351 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:56:25am
352 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:57:15am
353 LeePro  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:58:04am

¦O ya-a-a-w-w-w-n-n-n

qwertyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Uh...
Is it bedtime already? ? ?

Love ya', Lizards!

G'nite, y'all!

354 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:58:32am

re: #353 LeePro

¦O ya-a-a-w-w-w-n-n-n

qwertyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy yyyyyyyyyy

Uh...
Is it bedtime already? ? ?

Love ya', Lizards!

G'nite, y'all!

Good night Lee! Happy dreams :)

355 Karridine  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:58:40am

re: #345 savage_nation
Not to bring you down, more to buck you up, to prevail...

Only steer clear of hatred.

Those other people are steeped in ignorance, fear, selfishness and other problems of their own, and shouldn't be hated for it, just keep working for what's BEST for the babe!

/bbiaw

356 Mel Lono  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:58:40am

re: #347 Fenway_Nation

I just want to go on record as saying that 3OT Red Wings/Penguins game tonight was insane! Sure Detroit still has the lead in the series, but how much of a kick in the gut must it have been for the Red Wings organization to be not even 35 seconds away from wheeling out the cup and skating that celebratory lap when....whoopsie...that critical tying goal slips by Osgood.

Saw that finish too. Not a big hockey fan, just a bartender with a TV. but the wings had plenty of opportunity to stuff it in. Back to Detroit.

357 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 12:59:15am

re: #355 Karridine

re: #345 savage_nation
Not to bring you down, more to buck you up, to prevail...

Only steer clear of hatred.

Those other people are steeped in ignorance, fear, selfishness and other problems of their own, and shouldn't be hated for it, just keep working for what's BEST for the babe!

/bbiaw

Great comment.

358 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:00:02am

re: #353 LeePro

Night LeePro, weet dreams.

359 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:00:08am
360 LeePro  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:00:33am

re: #354 MigueldowninMexico

¡Gracias!  [PERFECT 'r' roll!]

361 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:01:15am
362 Mel Lono  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:01:36am

re: #356 Mel Lono

re: #356 Mel Lono

Saw that finish too. Not a big hockey fan, just a bartender with a TV. but the wings had plenty of opportunity to stuff it in. Back to Detroit.

Pittsburgh

hah fixed myself!

363 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:01:36am

re: #360 LeePro

¡Gracias!  [PERFECT 'r' roll!]

LOL!

Errrre con erre cigarrro!

364 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:02:04am

re: #361 savage_nation

One sec I got the link favorited where it all started. :)

365 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:02:32am

re: #361 savage_nation

Ok, why do I keep seeing the term weet dreams? WTF is that, a secret LGF handshake?

I'm sure it comes froma typo.
Many codewords here originate with typos.

It'ws weirod...

366 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:02:47am

re: #362 Mel Lono

re: #356 Mel Lono


Pittsburgh

hah fixed myself!

LOL

367 Karridine  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:02:50am

re: #351 savage_nation

Well, originally he had 7 points in his Decision.

By the time I entered the motion, I could show that 5 of them were moot, or negated, and one was of much lesser value now because of the negation of the first 5 points.

And I suggested that taking the boy from me, who'd been raising him all along for 4 years since birth, -JUST ON THE STRENGTH OF ONE benefit- would effectively deprive him of Daddy benefit, stability, and Mommy's visits.

Ping.

He reversed his ruling.

/good luck, Man, REALLY! Stay calm and legal, because ultimately this is in The Creator's compassionate hands!

368 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:03:06am
369 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:03:51am

It all started one night several weeks ago when beachkatie signed off for the night. Well PIMF happens and the entire thread picked it up and ran with it. And everyone still is.

370 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:04:23am
371 Karridine  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:04:46am

re: #369 BlueCanuck

And sweat dreams to you, Blue! :D

372 Mel Lono  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:04:50am

re: #368 song_and_dance_man

Good night, God Bless.

373 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:04:52am
374 Karridine  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:05:08am

Got tasks waiting. BBiaW

375 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:05:15am
376 victor_yugo  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:06:47am

re: #365 MigueldowninMexico

I'm sure it comes froma typo.
Many codewords here originate with typos.

It'ws weirod...

Yu nede a new spel cheker.

377 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:07:19am

re: #371 Karridine

*shudder* No thanks had too many of those lately. :p

378 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:07:30am

re: #376 victor_yugo

Yu nede a new spel cheker.

I do!
Hahahahahaha.

I was hoping noone will notice lol

379 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:07:31am
380 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:07:51am

re: #376 victor_yugo

pfffft, spill chequeing is four wimps.

381 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:08:25am

re: #380 BlueCanuck

pfffft, spill chequeing is four wimps.

LOL!

382 Karridine  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:08:46am

re: #377 BlueCanuck

Just joshing!

Okay, swill dreams, Canuck! :D
Sweep dreams?
Sleek Dreams?
Sweet Screams?

gg-bbiaw :D

383 victor_yugo  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:09:00am

re: #380 BlueCanuck

pfffft, spill chequeing is four wimps.

Doggone Canadians, speling evrything diffrent.

384 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:09:40am
385 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:10:19am

re: #383 victor_yugo

Doggone Canadians, speling evrything diffrent.

Gwell, joo haben't seen Mehicanos.

386 victor_yugo  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:10:29am

The ultimate proofreader's nightmare:

Anguish Languish

387 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:11:34am

re: #386 victor_yugo

The ultimate proofreader's nightmare:

Anguish Languish

OMG
I pass lol

388 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:12:40am
389 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:13:30am

re: #388 savage_nation

Damn that Jon Karry!

jee jas to Halp os!

390 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:13:51am

re: #389 MigueldowninMexico

jee jas to Halp os!

That was not correct, lol. Sorry.

391 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:14:31am
392 victor_yugo  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:15:30am

Okay, I gotta type up the report.

C U all later

393 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:15:39am

re: #391 savage_nation

u stuk in irak?

I think so! lol


I rack, I ran, I slam.

Three actions.

394 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:16:06am

re: #392 victor_yugo

Okay, I gotta type up the report.

C U all later

L8ter ;)

395 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:17:12am

I'm getting tired.

You can tell by the level of idiocy lol

396 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:18:06am

To sleep or not to sleep...

397 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:18:49am

Tails!

Ok, going to hit the sack.

Take care all and God bless :)

398 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:19:39am
399 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:34:47am
400 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:42:47am
401 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 1:59:51am

I dunno....might liven up a little once the fruitcup rolls around.

402 littleoldlady  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:00:02am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------->
Help yourselves!

403 littleoldlady  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:00:24am

...or not. ;-)

Fenway! :-)

404 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:04:09am

Ah well....more fruitcup for me!

405 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:06:26am

I am here, just lurking with nothing to say.

406 littleoldlady  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:08:37am

BlueCanuck! :-)

I'm juggling, again.

Did I miss anything?

407 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:09:28am

re: #406 littleoldlady

Not too much I think, been a real slow night all over.

408 littleoldlady  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:12:04am

Better than fighting, I guess. ;-)

409 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:14:51am

I posted my timely yet-off-topic links in last night's dead/overnight thread....

410 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:20:20am

Good, I am so tired still. And bed time is almost 4 hours off.

411 onthow  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:26:37am

It seems Mr. Herbert has done what so many leftist intellectuals do: he has attempted to interpret rightist conclusions through the lens of an assumption unique to his leftist worldview. If one begins with the assumption that human nature is basically good, it is quite logical to have a leftist endpoint. It is my belief that many on the Left are either not aware that their conclusions derive from this originating assumption or that they believe that this originating assumption is universal. Therefore, they tend to see only one possible logical path which leads, of course, to only one possible logical endpoint: leftism. Any deviation from this endpoint cannot be logical and, therefore, must be due to "racial prejudice, ignorance, hostility," etc.

412 Gang of One  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:32:51am

re: #3 song_and_dance_man

B. Hussein might need a fleet of buses now.

I think Ray Nagin might have a few he's not using.

413 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:57:33am

Is there a new 'stealth' thread that I don't know about, or is everyone in the lounge?

414 Ma Sands  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:58:33am

(Good morning to anybody who is awake. How are your kidneys today? :)

415 littleoldlady  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:00:54am

Not the lounge...I'm in the zone! ;-)

/spinoff links
//new addiction

Ma! :-)

How should my kidneys be?

/I've never asked them how they felt before...

416 Ma Sands  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:02:21am

re: #415 littleoldlady

I would HOPE they are just fine! :)

I asked, hoping for some 'free' help in tracking down something about mine.....at least it's in the place where they say kidneys live..... :)

417 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:02:37am

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ


what? did I miss anything?

418 littleoldlady  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:03:00am

re: #416 Ma Sands

Ruh roh! :-(

419 Tigger2005  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:04:47am

THE EVOLUTION OF MODERN MAN

An ape-man and ape-woman had just gotten back to their cave when the female got up on two legs and started walking around.

"What the hell are you doing?" the male asked.

"I don't know," she replied. "I just suddenly felt like walking upright."

"Well, that's really amazing," he said. "Hey, as long as you're up, would you mind getting me a beer?"

420 Ma Sands  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:04:58am

re: #418 littleoldlady

Yeah......it's been aching there for about a week.......I just looked through all the medical & health books I've got, and everything there is too serious.....can't find anything just for exactly the kidney spot.....maybe it's not them at all..... :)

421 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:06:28am

Good morning, Lizards!

{Ma Sands}
{littleoldlady}

Ma Sands, are you not well? PLEASE see a doctor today. Drinking cranberry juice might relieve pain from a bladder infection (in case that's the problem).

422 littleoldlady  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:06:33am

re: #420 Ma Sands

Umm...doctor visit?

423 littleoldlady  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:06:55am

goddess! :-)

424 Ma Sands  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:07:12am

re: #419 Tigger2005

Here's something I found earlier tonight, for the "monkey" thread..... :)

425 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:07:27am

re: #420 Ma Sands

Yeah......it's been aching there for about a week.......I just looked through all the medical & health books I've got, and everything there is too serious.....can't find anything just for exactly the kidney spot.....maybe it's not them at all..... :)

A WEEK?

PLEASE see a doctor today.

426 Ma Sands  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:08:14am

re: #421 goddessoftheclassroom

There! I knew I'd find my memory through lgf..... :) Now, to find a way to get some of that miracle-juice, without a vehicle.....

427 Ma Sands  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:10:54am

re: #425 goddessoftheclassroom

[No insurance.....no doctor......no vehicle......trying self-help first......only thought up "kidneys" today.....thanks --sorry to worry you!]

428 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:13:04am

re: #426 Ma Sands

There! I knew I'd find my memory through lgf..... :) Now, to find a way to get some of that miracle-juice, without a vehicle.....

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

If you order it in the next 12 hours, it will be delivered tomorrow, If you spend three dollars more on something, you'll get free shipping.

It's for 3 jugs, and it's not cheap, but it's there.

Could you call your church for a volunteer to pick you up some locally?

429 Ma Sands  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:16:27am

re: #428 goddessoftheclassroom

Oh! I never thought of ordering it! You are so good for my mind, goddess! Thanks. :) --I am in a unique position, in that, none of my children, and none of my church people live close enough......I think I might walk, even --there's a store about 1 1/2 miles away..... :)

430 yma o hyd  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:20:34am

So sorry to hear of your predicament, Ma Sands!

Have you tried putting warmth on the spot? Like a hot-water-bottle?

431 littleoldlady  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:21:28am

Ma,

First of all, drink LOTS of water.

I don't know about in your area, but in mine the supermarkets all deliver.

432 Ma Sands  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:22:41am

re: #430 yma o hyd

Ah! When I thought it was from mowing & weedwhipping, I did put heat on it, several days ago, and I remember it did feel better for a while.......thanks.....doing it again..... :)

433 Tigger2005  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:23:23am

I told an Obama-loving coworker about Obama's Indian name. He replied, "What can I say? Even Native Americans love the guy. He's a beautiful man."

If you need to throw up for some reason, forget the syrup of ipecac. Just ask the nearest Obama supporter to praise the Messiah.

434 Ma Sands  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:24:41am

re: #431 littleoldlady

Yes --that's one thing I did glean, from all my books just now.....water.....something i don't like much, but I DID start..... :)

Never thought to see if the stores deliver.....my! Am I learning wealth tonight! :)

435 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:28:05am

re: #434 Ma Sands

Just ask, and you shall receive. :)

436 Ma Sands  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:28:44am

re: #435 BlueCanuck

:)

437 littleoldlady  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:35:04am

re: #434 Ma Sands

I learned by watching my mother get "stupid" sick over and over - preventable if only she had made a conscious decision to drink water.

Kind of amazing when you think about it.

/hey goddess! did I get my tense correct in that sentence? ;-)

438 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:38:21am

re: #437 littleoldlady

I learned by watching my mother get "stupid" sick over and over - preventable if only she had made a conscious decision to drink water.

Kind of amazing when you think about it.

/hey goddess! did I get my tense correct in that sentence? ;-)

Yes, you did! :)

Ma Sands--adding a little lemon juice to the water increases its acidity (which is good for, um, things) and, I think, makes it tastier to drink.


(well, duh, adding ANYTHING to water, a tasteless liquid, will make it tastier, but you know what I mean,,,)

439 yochanan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:39:07am

bob beckle (forgive me for using him) now states he thinks the michele obama tape will come out and it is a total bombshell enough to be the nail in the cofin.

440 Ma Sands  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:39:09am

re: #437 littleoldlady

And then, there's joy, too! And God is helping.......I just opened the drapes, and I see that my irises are blooming today! And there's never been so many! ! ! :)

441 Ma Sands  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:40:06am

re: #438 goddessoftheclassroom

Yes! You are correct....thanks! :)

442 littleoldlady  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:46:24am

re: #440 Ma Sands

Yeah. Considering how little I've done this year, my garden looks pretty terrific, too.

/more global warming - PLEASE! ;-)

443 littleoldlady  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:47:02am

re: #439 yochanan

yochanan! :-)

I hate that guy.

/got link?

444 yochanan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:49:37am

re: #443 littleoldlady

yochanan! :-)

I hate that guy.

/got link?

it was on fox & friends this morning. he hinted something real big about michelle was coming out.

445 yochanan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:51:10am

might be the real reason obama gave the hands of michelle speech they might know what is out there.

446 littleoldlady  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:52:31am

Has anyone actually SEEN this mythical "whitey" tape?

/other than "mythical" people, that is...

447 EE  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:55:08am

After Obama jumped upon Hillary Clinton's statement to the effect that actions are more important than words, and pretended that that was an insult to Martin Luther King Jr. (as if giving credit to LBJ for the Civil Rights Act was a racist act), Obama doubled his percentage of the black vote, going from about half to almost all of it.

The ravings of Wright that were publicized only re-inforced his standing in the black community (according to polls). Pfleger's ravings did not harm Obama among blacks either, to judge from the response in Trinity.

You can also find videos on the internet of Obama reading statements from his book Dreams From My Father, in which he emphasizes a black grievance against whites. Obama not only issued the book, but he issued a version of it with him reading the book. Audio is how the Ayatollah Khomeini made his case in Iran, and Obama used a similar method.

Obama did a lot more than just secure almost 100% of the black vote by doing this. He also secured the Dem nomination, because of the fear that since Obama was the candidate of the black community (almost 100% of blacks supporting him), by denying him the nomination the Dem party would be alienating the black community ("for the next 20 years", according to Charles Krauthammer's statement yesterday, June 2, on Fox News Special Report).

Obama's Philadelphia speech turns out to be a bunch of malarkey. Obama is a racial candidate who is an opportunist, and has for 20 years been associated and identified with the most extreme racist preachers on the south side of Chicago -- Jeremiah Wright, Michael Pfleger, and to a lesser extent but still important Louis Farrakhan. He has zero credibility as a President who will unite the country -- whether on race or on ideology or on any other matter.

448 Widow'smight  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:55:57am

re: #442 littleoldlady

Since you have asked, you shall receive O Loverly one. Starting today, warm up is in order (supposedly).

449 yochanan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:56:26am

i suspect this is the tape in question, but it supprised me Beckle would bring it up and act like it was real.

450 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:56:35am

re: #446 littleoldlady

Has anyone actually SEEN this mythical "whitey" tape?

/other than "mythical" people, that is...

I think it's real, and someone in the Clinton fold is holding it as leverage with the DNC. Hillary wants a final decision held off until then. If they decide for Obama before then, I'd bet it will be released as part of an scorched earth approach.

If someone in the RNC has it, I'll be furious at their leaking this now, unless he really thinks that Hillary would be easier for McCain to beat in November.

451 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:59:08am

Well, dear Lizards, I need to get ready for my last inservice day. I'm moving to the drama classroom, so I have LOTS of work ahead of me.

Take care.

452 Widow'smight  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:59:38am

re: #441 Ma Sands


If you lived where LittleoldLoverly lives, I drive over there myself, put you over my shoulder like a sack o taters, throw you in the vehicle and drag your perty little self to the doctor.

453 Ma Sands  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:00:28am

re: #447 EE

Biting my tongue --I've said what I "know" it all means, too many times already..... ):

454 yochanan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:00:32am

re: #450 goddessoftheclassroom

even if it is released in the near future it could split the dems

455 Ma Sands  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:01:45am

re: #452 Widow'smight

Ha! I'm pretty tough. --but, if you DID show up, I would agree to walk on my own feet..... :)

456 yochanan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:02:08am

thank you vanity fair BILL CLINTON AS A HORN DOG who knew?

need i put the sarc. tag on this one.

457 littleoldlady  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:06:10am

re: #447 EE

Excellent post, as usual EE! :-)

goddess,

It will be over by tomorrow, I think. As I said yesterday, the DNC can't NOT give the nomination to Obama. They've calculated that if they deny it to Obama they'll lose the black vote forever. I'm guessing they think that the Hillary women they've alienated will come back, most by the November election.

And I suspect they've seriously underestimated the anger they've generated among a large percentage of Democratic women.

458 littleoldlady  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:07:12am

re: #448 Widow'smight

'Morning Widow'smight! :-)

I've been resisting the air conditioning.

/can't afford those killer electric bills... :-(

459 Widow'smight  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:13:19am

re: #455 Ma Sands

Oh, I forgot I'd have to bring you some cut flowers and fresh veggies. BTW, my Irises are also blooming, I need to dig them up and separate them. My Climbing Roses are also blooming, kinda reminds me of this thread. Perty flowers, perty smell, but do not mess with things or you'll get some thorns.

460 Ma Sands  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:16:41am

re: #459 Widow'smight

:)

461 Widow'smight  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:16:44am

re: #458 littleoldlady

I have to install two air conditioners in the upstairs bedrooms for the older girls. We have a Cape Cod, and the ductwork to the upstairs is not sufficient to keep it cool.

Our Air conditioner for the rest of the house isn't too bad on Electricity though.

462 irish rose  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:18:12am

Good morning lizards, this must be the DDT for the day.

It's 63 degrees and cloudy here along the Lake Michigan shoreline, and I'm a very happy Marine mom today. The USS Nimitz is pulling into San Diego this morning, and I have officially survived my childs' first deployment with my nerves still intact.

First day off today that I've had in a while, and it's good to sit and relax on the DDT with a cup of coffee while I shuffle loads of laundry. I used to be worried about not having enough work to provide for my family... now I have more work than I can handle.

Any new information about the "whitey" clip?

463 Ma Sands  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:19:40am

Well, I'm so glad it's still cool temps where I live.......I have a ceiling fan in my bedroom, but half the ceiling fell down the other day and I don't dare turn the fan on lest the rest come tumbling down on me while I was sleeping..... :)

464 irish rose  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:21:18am

re: #463 Ma Sands

Well, I'm so glad it's still cool temps where I live.......I have a ceiling fan in my bedroom, but half the ceiling fell down the other day and I don't dare turn the fan on lest the rest come tumbling down on me while I was sleeping..... :)

WTF?! Thats' awful!

465 littleoldlady  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:21:26am

re: #463 Ma Sands

Ohfergoodnesssakes!

Time to call your kids, Ma.

466 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:24:34am

re: #465 littleoldlady
Good morning.

Is there any fruitcup left?

467 Ma Sands  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:25:48am

re: #465 littleoldlady

I think they're planning to wait 'til the rest falls down, so it's less work..... :) But, I look around the house, and see marvelous things where it'd been that bad in other rooms, too --it slowly all gets done..... :)

468 Widow'smight  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:26:04am

re: #463 Ma Sands

Note to self...... don't go yard-sailing at the Hurricane testing facility for ceiling fans.

You got more problems than my princesses, but at least I could fix some of yours. I can't even understand what the problem is around here sometime.

469 Ma Sands  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:26:50am

re: #466 Pvt Bin Jammin

Yes! I saved some for you.....here. :)

470 littleoldlady  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:26:57am

re: #466 Pvt Bin Jammin

Pvt Bin Jammin! :-)

Yup.

/bon appetit! ;-)

471 RickZ  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:27:16am

Way, way OT (but on an overnight thread, is anything on topic?):

Here is the moronic blog comment of, oh I don't know, the entire history of the internet. From Patterico (a post on prison ships), a liberal (to be kind) poster calling himself 'Levi' (comment # 85):

You don’t have to read something to know its contents. I’ve gotten A’s on papers I’ve written and tests I’ve taken about books I’ve never read. The ACLU nicely summarized the key points, but I’ve been repeatedly chided for linking to ‘leftist’ websites, so I thought I’d give you the straight up report. What else can I do? Do you want the link to the ACLU summary so you can just dismiss it as leftist propaganda and you can start rolling out your ACLU talking points? What’s the god damn point?

Also, it’s not a dodge, and I freely admitted to not reading the thing, primarily because it is physically impossible for me to do so, so you didn’t ‘catch’ me doing anything. I’m just trying to be practical. And I know that 300 page documents is too much reading for this sort of forum anyway, I linked to it mainly to illustrate a point. That’s also why I gave you the other link, to the very simple picture that very effectively proves how very full of shit this administration is. I’m just trying to help you out.

LOL! No wonder progressives/liberals are unable to debate on facts. And to think somebody actually typed that post because, uh, oh what's the point? This moron links to sites/items he has not read to prove his points! And admits not reading the links he posts like it's some sort of badge of honor! Not to mention believing an ACLU summary of a 300 page report on torture as gospel because they are "a reliable, meaningful source," but I digress. I really think those first two sentences should be immortalized in some sort of Internet Comment Hall of Fame, or Shame, as the case may be.

472 Ma Sands  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:27:39am

re: #468 Widow'smight

Aw. Tell them I think they've got the nicest father, & husband around! :)

473 yochanan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:30:19am

re: #471 RickZ

boiler plate no one ever reads, how many people really read the 9-11 comm. report, i tried but i would fall asleep even if it was the middle of the day.

474 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:31:00am

re: #469 Ma Sands

re: #470 littleoldlady

Thanks! Up early here. We have a state election here in California today and I'm in charge of our polling place. It's going to be a long day.....not much on the ballot.

475 littleoldlady  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:31:10am

Hey, RickZ! :-)

Funny!

476 Widow'smight  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:32:28am

re: #472 Ma Sands

As long as I have money and fix things, I can stay.

I imagine TallOldMan must be pretty darn good, or else someone's been putting something in his Fruitcup.

477 Ma Sands  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:33:20am

re: #474 Pvt Bin Jammin

Proud of you! Way to go, to be an American! :)

478 littleoldlady  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:34:17am

re: #476 Widow'smight

Not as good as he used to be. :-(

The good news is that I've gotten pretty good at fixing things myself. ;-)

479 Ma Sands  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:34:29am

re: #476 Widow'smight

Well, that does it. Today, I pray for you & yours all day long.

480 Ma Sands  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:35:23am

littleoldlady, I'm on my 4th glass of water. Am I doing okay?

481 littleoldlady  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:37:15am

re: #480 Ma Sands

MA! BE CAREFUL YOU DON'T DROWN!

;-)

482 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:38:36am

re: #44 BignJames

I don't talk about my sex life....or tingles down my leg...stuff like that...I keep to myself.

You'll go blind.

483 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:39:21am

re: #477 Ma Sands

I'm self employed, so able to do it. Been working the elections for almost thirty years. I have seen it all. LOL Don't expect any problems today, however. It's a small election. We'll probably be bored.

484 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:41:47am

re: #82 Athens Runaway

Cuz this isn't Kos? Well, that, and I like NOT being banninated for vulgarity. Oh well.

You can get banninated for vulgarity? Nobody warned me about that!

485 Widow'smight  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:43:26am

re: #479 Ma Sands

Someone must have been doing that, cause my 4 girls are all wonderful. I was waxing the Queen's car Sunday and she was helping me. She put a CD in and was singing to it, she has a beautiful voice, as do 2 of the 3 girls.

My offer to send you plants if/when I dig them up still stands. It's easier to give them away than to dig another flower bed.

486 Ma Sands  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:43:31am

re: #483 Pvt Bin Jammin

Well, take a good book along --one that you can read portions of, to the other workers..... :)

487 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:47:48am

re: #486 Ma Sands
LOL We have to stay awake somehow. Looking to see if I have a spicy book around here some place. :)

488 pingjockey  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:48:04am

Mornin' all! There must be a cat in the back yard the robins are raising absolute hell, or a crow. Hey, Sheriff Joe is on FNC.

489 Ma Sands  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:49:57am

re: #485 Widow'smight

I should love some! If you send me an e-mail (since mine own nic is blue), I could send you my mailing address........would that work?

490 Ma Sands  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:51:19am

re: #487 Pvt Bin Jammin

Welllll.......I'd been thinking more along the line of ejamacational........like what we've been learning here at lgf..... :)

491 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:53:53am

re: #487 Pvt Bin Jammin

LOL We have to stay awake somehow.

Coffee, followed by more coffee, with a chaser of even more coffee.

492 pingjockey  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:54:24am

re: #490 Ma Sands
Haha! Just had an evil thought, take a Limbaugh, Savage, Ann Coulter, or Ben Stein book. Any moonbats in the vicinity will burst into flames.

493 czekmark  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:54:46am
With a worldview that embraces both justice and healing, Senator Obama is better on these issues than any American leader since King.

Favorably comparing Obama to King requires great chutzpah and I think it illustrates how easily the gullible have fallen for Obamas snake oil rhetoric.

494 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:55:05am

Whaddup dogs?

495 pingjockey  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:56:04am

re: #494 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
It is damn early here in the Cacades. Looks like it is gonna be a fair day.

496 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:56:11am

re: #490 Ma Sands
Heh. That's probably just what they need to learn but they kind of give me funny looks when I ask for the republican ballot. LOL

Several years ago the county sent me to work at another precinct that was short handed. Several of the workers were downright hostile after they found out I was a republican. Guess I should have worn a Che T shirt or something.

497 Ma Sands  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:56:29am

re: #494 F B Vegetarian

Shhhhh....go back to sleep.....you were up too late last night!

498 songbird  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:56:53am

Good Morning Lizards!

It is way too early for me to get up, but since the dear husband has to be out the door by 5:30 with lunch and coffee in hand, and since I actually enjoy his company, I will be up early.

/Make your own #$%$ coffee!

499 Ma Sands  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:57:58am

re: #496 Pvt Bin Jammin

No.....they're trapped with you --make the most of it.....it's only for a day.... :)

500 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:58:07am

re: #492 pingjockey

Ha Ha I do have a Larry Elder book around here. Think I really will bring it.

Got to go get dressed. Have a great day all!

501 pingjockey  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:58:57am

re: #496 Pvt Bin Jammin
I've got a Che shirt for you, says "commies aren't cool" with a big red circle/slash right through Che's picture. Wear that and a cammie NRA hat and you'll be all set. Plus carry a biography of RWR.

502 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:59:02am

re: #497 Ma Sands

Bright eyed and bushy tailed. Put in a call to Senator Clinton already. Trying to convince her to stay and fight. Waiting on the return call.

503 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 4:59:52am

re: #498 songbird

Good Morning Lizards!

It is way too early for me to get up, but since the dear husband has to be out the door by 5:30 with lunch and coffee in hand, and since I actually enjoy his company, I will be up early.

/Make your own #$%$ coffee!

I'm out the door by around 5:30 during the summer, but I let my wife sleep. That 4:45 alarm is a bit startling, but even if it didn't wake me, the birds would.

504 pingjockey  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:00:03am

re: #500 Pvt Bin Jammin
Larry Elder is a definite anti-idiotarian, that'll work.

505 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:00:20am

"bushy tailed?"

Perhaps I need an Epilady (back in time we go).

506 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:00:27am

re: #501 pingjockey

I've got a Che shirt for you, says "commies aren't cool" with a big red circle/slash right through Che's picture. Wear that and a cammie NRA hat and you'll be all set. Plus carry a biography of RWR.

[Link: img84.imageshack.us...]

507 songbird  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:01:11am

re: #501 pingjockey

Don't forget the Bitter American Picture!

508 pingjockey  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:01:32am

Wow, FNC has a video from a bank security camera of a tornado leveling the bank.

509 songbird  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:02:28am

re: #503 JammieWearingFool

I'm out the door by around 5:30 during the summer, but I let my wife sleep. That 4:45 alarm is a bit startling, but even if it didn't wake me, the birds would.

It is dawn now at 4:45, so getting up is easier, but winter rising is tough!

510 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:02:29am

For anyone heretofore unfamiliar with Bob Herbert, I long ago dubbed him the affirmative action columnist. He used to be at Newsday and was so bad he earned his way onto the pages of the Times.

If they were simply looking for a black man, a Thomas Sowell, Shelby Steele or Stanley Crouch would have been a far superior choice. Apparently though, they were looking to further dumb down their audience and Herbert was the natural selection.

He makes Frank Rich look intelligent.

511 pingjockey  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:02:49am

re: #506 JamesTKirk

re: #507 songbird

Hahaha! Both of those would spin up the lefties.

512 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:03:16am

I just got here and I don't know if anyone has mention it before. On Fox And Friends today, Bob Beckel mention he is concerned about news that is going to break soon about Michelle Obama. Interesting that it should come from Bob Beckel. I am starting to think that that "Whitey" tape really does exist.

513 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:04:02am

re: #511 pingjockey

re: #507 songbird

Hahaha! Both of those would spin up the lefties.

This one might be more obscure...

514 pingjockey  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:04:04am

re: #510 JammieWearingFool

Jeez! That was harsh. I didn't think anything could make Frank Rich look smart.

515 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:04:26am

re: #509 songbird

It is dawn now at 4:45, so getting up is easier, but winter rising is tough!

In the winter I rise an hour later. When I'm in the office I extend my hours so I'm able to work only half a day Fridays, or just burn half a vacation day and have three-day weekends all summer.

516 Ma Sands  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:04:56am

re: #502 F B Vegetarian

Wow! I am impressed! :)

517 pingjockey  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:05:08am

re: #513 JamesTKirk

Who the hell is that? Wait, Einstein?

518 songbird  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:05:10am

re: #513 JamesTKirk

This one might be more obscure...

Powerful!

519 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:05:49am

re: #516 Ma Sands

You should be. heh.

520 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:06:41am

re: #514 pingjockey

Jeez! That was harsh. I didn't think anything could make Frank Rich look smart.

Trust me, Rich is a blithering idiot. But I seriously think Herbert's IQ is around 68. His entire existence is based on seeing everything through the racial lens. He's incapable of coherent thought.

521 songbird  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:06:45am

re: #515 JammieWearingFool

In the winter I rise an hour later. When I'm in the office I extend my hours so I'm able to work only half a day Fridays, or just burn half a vacation day and have three-day weekends all summer.

That works. My husband's schedule is more rigid, but at least they give him every other Friday off.

522 pingjockey  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:08:50am

re: #520 JammieWearingFool

He ought to listen to Walter Williams for awhile. Do you suppose the kids who had Mr. Williams for an instructor realize how lucky they were?

523 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:10:15am

re: #521 songbird

That works. My husband's schedule is more rigid, but at least they give him every other Friday off.

Here and there I need to come in the office on Fridays, but I'm usually done by 11 am.

Normally I just stay home with my son and play with him, go swimming, food shopping, etc. Usually decide by midweek depending on the forecast.

524 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:10:42am

re: #517 pingjockey

Who the hell is that? Wait, Einstein?

Manuel, from Fawlty Towers (a classic Britcom starring John Cleese).

525 irish rose  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:11:11am

Strong coffee with half and half, and a buttered english muffin topped with a fried egg and cheese.

Bacon on the side.

Mmmmmm...

526 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:11:32am

Good Morning all! Looks to be a fine, albeit hot day, on the outer edge of the city too busy to hate but does it anyway so long as no one's watching. Going up to around 90.

Spent last night reading a bunch of Montaigne's essays -- still worth reading 430 years later.

527 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:11:38am

re: #522 pingjockey

He ought to listen to Walter Williams for awhile. Do you suppose the kids who had Mr. Williams for an instructor realize how lucky they were?

Yes, Williams is another intellectual giant. I know a professor down at GMU who's acquainted with him. I love him as a fill-in for Rush. Funny guy.

528 pingjockey  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:11:45am

re: #524 JamesTKirk

We get that on PBS every now and then. I liked the episode with the rat and the health inspector.

529 Widow'smight  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:12:01am

re: #516 Ma Sands

Sent you one, take care beautiful. I must get Mini-mom on the bus.

530 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:13:00am

re: #525 irish rose

Hiya Rose...(batting eyes)

531 rightside  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:13:24am

Morning Lizards

532 irish rose  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:14:09am

re: #530 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hiya Rose...(batting eyes)

Hiya, FBV ;).

(bats eyes)

533 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:14:37am

re: #528 pingjockey

We get that on PBS every now and then. I liked the episode with the rat and the health inspector.

I've got the full set on DVD.

"Whatever you do, don't mention the war!"

534 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:16:18am

Regarding the main story: there will be no retraction. Why need one? The explanation is clear: Obama had to fold in the face of pressure for the white hegemonic establishment. He was, like so many black men before him, forced to bend his neck under the yoke of servitude. But if it can serve to bring him to power, then so be it. He has lost this battle, but Jeremiah and company will return in force once The Haloed One gets into the "white" house.

/boiler plate; it's what's on the menu.

535 pingjockey  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:16:43am

re: #533 JamesTKirk

Mwhahaha! How in hell does someone as tall as John Cleese manage to get into some of the contortions he does? The local radio station for trivia question prizes has been giving away best of monty python dvds.

536 irish rose  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:17:23am

It feels so good to have a normal diet again, is there anything better in the morning than the smell of bacon in the frying pan?

I love bacon and eggs. I'm probably going to drop dead of high cholesterol if I keep eating them 3+ times a week, but at least I will have lived.

537 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:18:05am

For those who weren't here last night, Alison Kraus/Robert Plant concert was amazing. Best musical expeience (in an audience) that I have ever had. If they come near you, and you can get tickets, by all means go.

Had a great time. My kids thought it was sublime.

538 pingjockey  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:18:16am

Gaaah! Double morons on Fox. Lannie Davis and Bob Beckel. The shows IQ just dropped 100 points.

539 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:18:22am

re: #536 irish rose

Love bacon, but it's banned from my house. Kosher vegetarian (not me, my lovely bride)

540 pingjockey  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:19:16am

re: #537 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The kids are old enough to appreciate sublime? Cool.

541 songbird  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:19:41am

re: #523 JammieWearingFool

Here and there I need to come in the office on Fridays, but I'm usually done by 11 am.

Normally I just stay home with my son and play with him, go swimming, food shopping, etc. Usually decide by midweek depending on the forecast.

Sounds fun. My kids are all grown except for my 15 year old who spends summers with dad. She'll be back in August.

This summer is different for me as I'm off but I still get paid (I'm a teacher).

I'm filling my time with studying German, working on my husband's campaign, ordering music and doing prep work for the next school year.

542 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:19:44am

re: #501 pingjockey

LOL That'll freak 'em out. I love it.

543 pingjockey  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:20:13am

re: #539 Lucius Septimius

That's terrible. I understand, but if I can't have my pig now and then...

544 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:20:45am

re: #543 pingjockey

That's terrible. I understand, but if I can't have my pig now and then...

I take full advantage of the opportunity when I'm eating out, trust me.

545 pingjockey  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:23:24am

re: #542 Pvt Bin Jammin
I didn't catch where you are, SD or Montana? Here in eastern Wa. the county went to all mail in. I liked going to the polling place. Plus I think with mail in the chance for shenanigans goes up. King County(Seattle) had a buncha donks registered at the county admin building as their residence!

546 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:23:49am

Too many links above, but Alan Kors, founder of FIRE, has a good piece on the sad state of higher education in the New Criterion. Read it an weep.

547 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:23:59am

re: #544 Lucius Septimius

I take full advantage of the opportunity when I'm eating out, trust me.

We are Jewish, but have never been particularly Kosher. My daughter is dating a boy who does keep Kosher. So, since I love my daughter, we are making an effort. I to have to sneak all those hidden delights now. But you gotta do what you gotta do for your kids.

548 nacazo  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:24:17am

Obama is ruthless. He will do or say anything in his quest for power. And the obamiacs will drink the kool-aid without any critical thinking. I better delete my emails critical of the messiah. Too late to cover my tracks?

Oh well a concentration camp may be in my future if this guy gets elected for not supporting the Master Leader.

549 pingjockey  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:24:35am

re: #544 Lucius Septimius
Well that is good. My sil was a vegan til she got pregnant and the doc told her she needed lots more protein than she was getting.

550 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:25:07am

re: #540 pingjockey

The kids are old enough to appreciate sublime? Cool.

Yeah, ain't it cool?

Raised my kids to be smarter and more knowledgeable than dad.

551 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:25:45am

re: #539 Lucius Septimius

Love bacon, but it's banned from my house. Kosher vegetarian (not me, my lovely bride)

Bacon Salt - it's kosher and vegetarian.

552 irish rose  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:29:22am

I went over to Ireland with a group of musicians a few years back, and spent three weeks playing trad and dancing with the locals throughout the Gaeltacht.

I ate full Irish breakfasts every morning, for three weeks straight... I was sure I would drop dead shortly thereafter from clogged arteries.

I still dream about those breakfasts... coffee with dark sugar and real cream, fried eggs, bangers and rashers, black and white puddings, fried tomatos, Irish oatmeal, hearty Irish brown bread with real butter.

553 vapig  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:29:39am

Good Morning, Everybody!

554 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:29:46am

re: #545 pingjockey
I'm in southern California. It's just a state election this time. We had our primary presidential primary in February. LOL I had a young gal in Feb. that was salivating over the chance to vote for Obama. Trouble was, she wasn't in our precinct and didn't even know what party she was registered in. I had her vote on a provisional ballot as a dem but I think she was really in the green party. We've suspected that some folks have voted more than once.....probably once for some dead person.

555 pingjockey  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:30:46am

re: #552 irish rose

Yep. Real food, but geez the fat content! But oh so good.

556 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:31:19am

re: #549 pingjockey

BTW, her Dr. was full of crap. Meat eating Drs are always quick to pull the plug on veganism. Lots of protein available in the vegan world. Docs are lazy sometimes.

China and India seem to be able to crank out lot's of babys from vegans.

557 Ma Sands  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:31:57am

re: #539 Lucius Septimius

Probably better for your kidneys that way. :)

558 pingjockey  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:32:02am

re: #554 Pvt Bin Jammin
Oh, thought you were in a primary state. Is this the election with gay marriage on the ballot or is that a done deal already?

559 pingjockey  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:33:23am

re: #556 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Don't know, but her main problem she was a real picky vegan. So she wasn't eating veggies with enough protein.

560 pingjockey  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:35:28am

To all you married guys, one of those FLDS dudes has 21 wives and 35 kids. One wife and 3 kids is enough. It proves that those FLDS guys are nuts!

561 Pvt Bin Jammin  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:36:42am

re: #558 pingjockey

They just got enough signatures to put in on the ballot in November but they just said on the local news station that starting June 17th they can get married, as it stands now. The forms have already been changed to "Party A" and "Party B".

IMHO it seems a shame that they are spending the money on this election today. Not much on the ballot.

562 pingjockey  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:36:42am

Have a good day all. Time to make the lunches.

563 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:38:19am

re: #556 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

BTW, her Dr. was full of crap. Meat eating Drs are always quick to pull the plug on veganism. Lots of protein available in the vegan world. Docs are lazy sometimes.

China and India seem to be able to crank out lot's of babys from vegans.

They know how to eat a balanced vegan diet. Many American vegans don't.

564 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:38:27am

re: #559 pingjockey

That's different.

Just pisses me off that the Occums Razor for healthcare providers for vegetarians and vegans is "go eat some meat, that'll cure what ails ya". It's total horse hockey!

My mother is still convinced I am going to die any day.

But, also, honestly? Some vegans are so sick of being vegan (I am a "used to be vegan) that all the sudden, their Dr. says they need meat. Not her, I am sure, but I know five people who the Dr. told them that they needed meat.

565 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:39:31am

re: #564 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That's different.

Just pisses me off that the Occums Razor for healthcare providers for vegetarians and vegans is "go eat some meat, that'll cure what ails ya". It's total horse hockey!

My mother is still convinced I am going to die any day.

But, also, honestly? Some vegans are so sick of being vegan (I am a "used to be vegan) that all the sudden, their Dr. says they need meat. Not her, I am sure, but I know five people who the Dr. told them that they needed meat.

But of course. Meat is what we're supposed to eat.

566 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:39:38am

re: #563 JamesTKirk

They know how to eat a balanced vegan diet. Many American vegans don't.

Perfect. You are Kirk, and you are smart.

Head'n out to Eden...
Yea, Brother.

567 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:39:59am

re: #565 JamesTKirk

Heh.

568 irish rose  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:40:36am

re: #566 Fat Bastard Vegetarian


Head'n out to Eden...
Yea, Brother.

Heh.

569 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:40:48am

re: #566 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Perfect. You are Kirk, and you are smart.

Head'n out to Eden...
Yea, Brother.

Just don't call me Herbert.

(I re-watched that episode recently - every bit as bad as I remembered.)

570 funky chicken  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:42:40am

re: #112 stevieray

Herbert, like dozens of other columnists across the nation, is steeped in the post-modernism of today's leftists -- there is no such thing as objective truth, there is only the narrative.

The narrative for Obama has already been written. He is the post racial healer, he brings the insoluble together, he is hope and change made flesh.

They will not abandon the narrative. They will squeal in delight at Obama's audacious nuance, his ability to bridge the chasms between the worlds of black and white, and all the shades in between. They will accuse his doubters of bitterness and hatred, of trying to kill the New Way in its crib, of clinging to the grotesque failure that is America before Obama.

After all, these are people who still believe in socialism, in marxism, in maoism, in any-non-Americanism... despite their histories unblemished by success for the better part of a century. They will do what they do best -- lie and spin -- because their entire self image and world view depend on it.

great stuff

571 irish rose  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:43:17am

re: #569 JamesTKirk

Just don't call me Herbert.

(I re-watched that episode recently - every bit as bad as I remembered.)

Indeed.
Gotta love the hair, though.

572 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:43:18am

Gotta run. Have a great day, ya'll.

573 vapig  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:45:18am

re: #569 JamesTKirk

Just don't call me Herbert.

(I re-watched that episode recently - every bit as bad as I remembered.)

That WAS a really bad episode. Some of them are more preachy than I remember. Must be seeing them with aged eyes and more perspective.

574 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:48:15am

re: #573 vapig

That WAS a really bad episode. Some of them are more preachy than I remember. Must be seeing them with aged eyes and more perspective.

I'll still take them over Next Generation any day.

575 irish rose  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:48:32am
576 funky chicken  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:50:07am

re: #447 EE

After Obama jumped upon Hillary Clinton's statement to the effect that actions are more important than words, and pretended that that was an insult to Martin Luther King Jr. (as if giving credit to LBJ for the Civil Rights Act was a racist act), Obama doubled his percentage of the black vote, going from about half to almost all of it.

The ravings of Wright that were publicized only re-inforced his standing in the black community (according to polls). Pfleger's ravings did not harm Obama among blacks either, to judge from the response in Trinity.

You can also find videos on the internet of Obama reading statements from his book Dreams From My Father, in which he emphasizes a black grievance against whites. Obama not only issued the book, but he issued a version of it with him reading the book. Audio is how the Ayatollah Khomeini made his case in Iran, and Obama used a similar method.

Obama did a lot more than just secure almost 100% of the black vote by doing this. He also secured the Dem nomination, because of the fear that since Obama was the candidate of the black community (almost 100% of blacks supporting him), by denying him the nomination the Dem party would be alienating the black community ("for the next 20 years", according to Charles Krauthammer's statement yesterday, June 2, on Fox News Special Report).

Obama's Philadelphia speech turns out to be a bunch of malarkey. Obama is a racial candidate who is an opportunist, and has for 20 years been associated and identified with the most extreme racist preachers on the south side of Chicago -- Jeremiah Wright, Michael Pfleger, and to a lesser extent but still important Louis Farrakhan. He has zero credibility as a President who will unite the country -- whether on race or on ideology or on any other matter.

wow.

577 songbird  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:50:41am

re: #571 irish rose

Indeed.
Gotta love the hair, though.

I'm intrigued by the boiled egg jewelry!

578 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:51:20am
579 irish rose  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:55:43am

re: #578 JamesTKirk

Heh... beat you to it.
Brother ;).

580 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:58:05am

re: #579 irish rose

Heh... beat you to it.
Brother ;).

Nope, click my link. It's not what you posted.

581 realwest  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 5:58:44am

Good Morning all y'all - from a warm (72 degrees, going up to 86 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!

How is everyone this fine morning?

582 irish rose  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:00:58am

re: #581 realwest

Good Morning all y'all - from a warm (72 degrees, going up to 86 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!

How is everyone this fine morning?

Dreaming about high cholesterol Irish breakfasts, and grokking Spock.

How are you today?

583 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:02:14am

re: #582 irish rose

Dreaming about high cholesterol Irish breakfasts, and grokking Spock.

+ding

584 realwest  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:04:11am

re: #582 irish rose Good morning Rose! I'm doing ok today, how's about yourself?

585 profitsbeard  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:04:39am

NY Times, under da bus!

They try to reframe a pandering, irrelevant bit of psychobabble self-excusology as some kind of "speech on race", when it was really a bunch of familiar political misdirection and diversion and disinformation, and now get caught with their polemical pants down as Obama himself disproves his entire rationale and argument of the piece.

Good work, Mr. Herbert!

A fine effort to pose a jackass as the Venus de Milo.

Unfortunately this jackass kicks to survive it own sputtering stupidities.

Get under the bus with the rest of his crew.

586 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:04:51am

What to make of this?

Anyone see Beckel on Fox?

UPDATE: I hear from many readers that Bob Beckel said Tuesday morning on Fox & Friends, that a "bomb" was going to drop tomorrow, regarding Michelle Obama. Asked if it was "worse than a college thesis?" Bob said yes, I am told. He said that the Republicans were behind it and it was dumb because it meant that Mrs. Clinton would be the nominee.

I note that despite my readers' hopes, this fits the pattern for rumors like this — they're always simultaneously vague but hyped to be huge, and they're always coming just around the corner. Like I said, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but this could easily be a lot of folks chasing the same rumors...

I highly doubt Beckel would be promulgating Larry Johnson rumors, so this is interesting.

587 Jed  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:05:19am

This speech was a fraud. It changed the topic, as Obama frequently does.

588 lawhawk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:06:36am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. I'd have to say that Herbert isn't the slightest bit perturbed that his glowing assessment of Obama not only took a hit, but showed him to be nothing but a typical politician who threw his own church under the bus because it became simply impossible to deny away the fact that it was a racist church and that his continued affiliation with that church was starting to erode his support.

So Obama did like all politicians do when faced with that kind of situation. Instead of sticking to his "principles," he threw the church under the bus. Typical politician. Not exactly all that different than any other political hack.

And what's left behind? A whole lot of roadkill the Obama express leaves behind, and there will be plenty more before election day.

Obama will be hurt by his church affiliation because it was a willing arrangement for 2 decades, and only when still more revelations came out about who preached there, what was said, and the church's ideology did the Obama campaign realize that they had to do something to stem the tide.

589 irish rose  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:07:41am

In a good mood today, the Nimitz is pulling into port very shortly.

Had an email from him last night, and he'll be home for some leave time around the 4th of July.

590 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:08:00am
591 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:11:02am

re: #590 ploome hineni

you have to ask yourself, how can the Democrats alieanate blacks?

I think that's why Hillary has been fighting against Obama with [at least] one hand tied behind her back the whole time— because on the off chance that she actually does get the nomination, she knows she's going to need his supporters in the general election.

592 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:11:22am

re: #590 ploome hineni

the Republicans are running a terrible campaign

When you have a terrible candidate, what else can you do?

593 realwest  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:11:45am

re: #586 JammieWearingFool Good morning Jammie - I gotta tell ya, as each day goes by I become more and more convinced that there is NO tape out there - NONE, NADA, ZIP.
I went to your link and read your post and I still don't believe that tape exists.
I think folks who believe it have been taken in by Larry (Karl Rove is going to be indicted) Johnson.

594 realwest  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:13:22am

re: #589 irish rose

Yeah! Great news Rose! Say did you ever find anyone to hold up a banner or sign from you to him when the Nimitz docks?

595 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:13:50am

re: #578 JamesTKirk

I think of this every time you post something.

596 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:14:06am
597 lawhawk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:15:16am

re: #586 JammieWearingFool

Yet the media keeps considering Larry Johnson credible (the ex-cia guy, not the former NBA player). Until I see hard evidence, I'm going to say it's nothing - 24 hour rule.

598 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:15:59am
599 rollingdivision  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:16:19am

How in this green earth did the pundits fall for this stuff?

600 Panhandler  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:16:40am

re: #593 realwest

Good morning Jammie - I gotta tell ya, as each day goes by I become more and more convinced that there is NO tape out there - NONE, NADA, ZIP.
I went to your link and read your post and I still don't believe that tape exists.
I think folks who believe it have been taken in by Larry (Karl Rove is going to be indicted) Johnson.


Got news fer ya real, it's out.

601 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:17:26am

re: #586 JammieWearingFool

What to make of this?

Anyone see Beckel on Fox?


I highly doubt Beckel would be promulgating Larry Johnson rumors, so this is interesting.

I'm beginning to think that this is all just a big tease, and I for one am not gonna' get anotheir hard-on about it.

602 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:18:09am

re: #599 rollingdivision

How in this green earth did the pundits fall for this stuff?

They're Gramsican whores.

603 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:18:27am

re: #595 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I think of this every time you post something.

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

That one's a classic. ☺

604 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:19:50am

re: #598 ploome hineni

when he is the best of the worst the republicans need to run a better campaign

"He's not as bad as the other guys, honest!" is not the sort of slogan to warm the cockles of one's heart.

605 Panhandler  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:20:13am

re: #601 MandyManners

I'm beginning to think that this is all just a big tease, and I for one am not gonna' get anotheir hard-on about it.

I've heard of being metrosexual, but you is hard core.

606 rollingdivision  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:20:22am

Guess so. It would be amazing if the rumored video existed and was able to be held secret for so long. My bet is it doesn't exist, but Michele actually did say something essentially as rumored. Just not caught on video.

607 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:20:29am

re: #586 JammieWearingFool

What to make of this?

Anyone see Beckel on Fox?

I highly doubt Beckel would be promulgating Larry Johnson rumors, so this is interesting.

Never fear, Obama has Reggie Love on his side.

608 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:20:35am

re: #597 lawhawk

Yet the media keeps considering Larry Johnson credible (the ex-cia guy, not the former NBA player). Until I see hard evidence, I'm going to say it's nothing - 24 hour rule.

I see we both got rick-rolled.

Breaking: Michele Obama tape!

609 irish rose  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:21:21am

re: #594 realwest

Yeah! Great news Rose! Say did you ever find anyone to hold up a banner or sign from you to him when the Nimitz docks?


No, but thats' OK.
I spoke with him via email last night.

610 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:21:38am

re: #605 Panhandler

re: #601 MandyManners
I'm beginning to think that this is all just a big tease, and I for one am not gonna' get anotheir hard-on about it.

I've heard of being metrosexual, but you is hard core.

Careful, we just had a penis thread yesterday. Don't want the penis to come again too soon.

611 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:21:47am

re: #607 NJDhockeyfan

Never fear, Obama has Reggie Love on his side.

Did you see the Reggie Love photos where he was passed out at a UNC party?

Not sure where I saw them but they were floating around last week.

612 realwest  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:22:23am

re: #586 JammieWearingFool Oh and btw, I watched all I could of Fox and Friends or whatever the early morning show is on Fox and they showed a video clip, made by some hollywood "big deal" (who's name I've forgotten because I never heard of him before) in which - in a school room setting a Black teacher with short hair and big ears says that the desired part in the school play is going to be played by Michelle - and a little black girl with hair in braids, stands up and says "Yippee" or something, at which point a young blond girl walks up to the front of the class, stands with her back to the teacher and says "No I'm going to be playing that part." The teacher reiterates that Michelle will be playing the part and the young blond girl, whom teach addresses as Hillary, says "no, I'm better for the part, I know all the lines and look - I'm already wearing the costume" ( a red dress with a flowing red scarf around her neck) while the rest of the class starts to say, indeed almost chant "not Hillary, again!".
Yes indeed, American politics has once again reached bottom and is digging (or at least the Dems are) even before EITHER party has had it's convention.

613 apachegunner  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:22:34am

Hey Realwest, how ya doing. Good to see you out and about.

614 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:23:47am

re: #608 JammieWearingFool

I see we both got rick-rolled.

I see I don't need to click that link, then.

Rickrolling is SO Wednesday, April second, 2008, 9:35 AM...

615 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:23:55am

re: #593 realwest

Good morning Jammie - I gotta tell ya, as each day goes by I become more and more convinced that there is NO tape out there - NONE, NADA, ZIP.
I went to your link and read your post and I still don't believe that tape exists.
I think folks who believe it have been taken in by Larry (Karl Rove is going to be indicted) Johnson.

My head is spinning. Beckel seems too savvy a guy to be going for some nonexistent tape.

Might be something else.

616 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:24:06am
617 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:24:18am

re: #609 irish rose

No, but thats' OK.
I spoke with him via email last night.

One of my internet friends just make Senior Master Chief on the Nimitz, and one of my other friends from the same group has been onboard since Hawaii for the Tiger cruise. They sent us some awesome photos and some funny stories, too.

618 realwest  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:24:22am

re: #600 Panhandler ROFL! Oh THAT tape! LOL!

619 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:24:26am

re: #605 Panhandler

I've heard of being metrosexual, but you is hard core.

I couldn't think of a better analogy (or, is it metaphor?).

620 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:25:04am
621 abolitionist  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:25:28am

Headline at HotAir, it's RickRoll crap:
Do.Not.Click
Do.Not.Click
Do.Not.Click
YouTube Video: Larry Johnson’s Michelle Obama “whitey” clip finally appears
Do.Not.Click
Do.Not.Click

622 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:25:30am

re: #617 OldLineTexan

"made", PIMF!

623 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:25:32am

re: #620 ploome hineni

how did I miss that?

/wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

They always pop up when you least expect. Sort of like they have a mind of their own.

624 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:25:52am
625 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:25:56am

re: #619 MandyManners

I couldn't think of a better analogy (or, is it metaphor?).

Or maybe it is just penis envy?

626 apachegunner  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:26:38am

I think Beckel is becoming a conservative

627 apachegunner  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:27:25am

re: #615 JammieWearingFool
seems to me that Hannity is carrying this thing.

628 irish rose  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:27:42am

re: #617 OldLineTexan

One of my internet friends just make Senior Master Chief on the Nimitz, and one of my other friends from the same group has been onboard since Hawaii for the Tiger cruise. They sent us some awesome photos and some funny stories, too.

Yep, the Tiger cruise is going very well and they're having a lot of fun out there. And please congratulate your friend for me! Senior Master Chief on a carrier.... the only word for that accomplishment is stunning!

629 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:27:48am

Did y'all see this bike race accident in Mexico?

Good Lord!

630 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:27:54am

re: #625 Nevergiveup

Or maybe it is just penis envy?

Penis NV... Is that anywhere near Reno?

631 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:28:08am
632 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:28:15am

re: #624 ploome hineni

savvy?

cynical and belligerent

/feh

Savvy to the extent he's been around a long time. Hey, the guy ran mondale's campaign so he may not be so politically astute. But he's not a total Koolaid drinker.

633 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:28:48am

re: #628 irish rose

I will pass that along to him. As far as I can tell, it's a kinf of swan-song...sounds to me like he is finally retiring...of course, he tried that a few years back!

634 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:29:13am

re: #630 JamesTKirk

Penis NV... Is that anywhere near Reno?


I think it's near Bird-In-Hand, PA.
Which is close to Metuchen, NJ.

635 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:30:16am

re: #634 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I think it's near Bird-In-Hand, PA.
Which is close to Metuchen, NJ.

Is it close to Intercourse?

636 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:30:29am

re: #629 OldLineTexan

Did y'all see this bike race accident in Mexico?

Good Lord!

I saw a larger version of that picture this morning, but without the story. Thanks for the context, and ... ow.

637 irish rose  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:31:01am

re: #629 OldLineTexan

Did y'all see this bike race accident in Mexico?

Good Lord!


Jeebus, that's horrible.
Don't show it to Charles.

638 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:31:06am

re: #635 OldLineTexan

Is it close to Intercourse?

As long as I get to Bangor.

639 realwest  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:31:13am

re: #613 apachegunner
HEY Guns! How the heck are you? And where've you been lately?
I'm almost always out here on the DT by about 8:45 AM Eastern Time!

640 tfc3rid  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:31:22am

Hillary will end up dropping out later this week and there will be a big pomp and circumstance and she will throw all of her support behind Obama and praise him and call him every wonderful name in the sun and urge her supporters to vote for him and keep another term of George W. Bush from happening...

As for how that works out, we shall see, but I can't imagine that NOT happening...

641 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:31:24am
642 apachegunner  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:32:01am

re: #639 realwest
cooling my heels at camp arifjan, KU. the camels said "hi"

643 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:32:02am

re: #625 Nevergiveup

I ain't touching that with a 10-ft. barge pole.

644 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:32:26am

re: #635 OldLineTexan

Is it close to Intercourse?


If you don't experience Intercourse, you'll have to go Blue Ball.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
(linky thing not working)

645 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:33:06am
646 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:33:09am

re: #642 apachegunner

cooling my heels at camp arifjan, KU. the camels said "hi"

How's the weather?

647 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:33:18am

The alltime irony meter would top out if the political hit came on Obama June 5.

648 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:33:24am

re: #640 tfc3rid

Hillary will end up dropping out later this week and there will be a big pomp and circumstance and she will throw all of her support behind Obama and praise him and call him every wonderful name in the sun and urge her supporters to vote for him and keep another term of George W. Bush from happening...

As for how that works out, we shall see, but I can't imagine that NOT happening...

If Obama wins, Hillary win never be President. Her only shot if she doesn't get the nod this time around is to hope for McCain to win, and then spend the next four years mending fences for a 2012 run. It's not in her best interests for Obama to win; and for the Clintons, it's always about their own interests.

649 apachegunner  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:33:46am

re: #646 MandyManners
MM, I am back in SC now and the weather is great

650 DistantThunder  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:34:11am

From the archives:

An Open Letter to Hillary Clinton by Juanita Brodderick

DO YOU REMEMBER?'
SUNDAY OCT 15, 2000

As I watched Rick Lazio's interview on Fox News this morning, I felt compelled to write this open letter to you, Mrs. Clinton. Brit Hume asked Mr. Lazio's views regarding you as a person and how he perceived you as a candidate. Rick Lazio did not answer the question, but I know that I can. You know it, too.

I have no doubt that you are the same conniving, self-serving person you were twenty-two years ago when I had the misfortune to meet you. When I see you on television, campaigning for the New York senate race, I can see the same hypocrisy in your face that you displayed to me one evening in 1978. You have not changed.

I remember it as though it was yesterday. I only wish that it were yesterday and maybe there would still be time to do something about what your husband, Bill Clinton, did to me. There was a political rally for Mr. Clinton's bid for governor of Arkansas. I had obligated myself to be at this rally prior to my being assaulted by your husband in April, 1978. I had made up my mind to make an appearance and then leave as soon as the two of you arrived. This was a big mistake, but I was still in a
state of shock and denial. You had questioned the gentleman who drove you and Mr. Clinton from the airport. You asked him about me and if I would be at the gathering. Do you remember? You told the driver, "Bill has talked so much about Juanita", and that you were so anxious to meet me. Well, you wasted no time. As soon as you entered the room, you came directly to me and grabbed my hand. Do you remember
how you thanked me, saying "we want to thank you for everything that you do for Bill". At that point, I was pretty shaken and started to walk off. Remember how you kept a tight grip on my hand and drew closer to me? You repeated your statement, but this time with a coldness and look that I have seen many times on television in the last eight years. You said, "Everything you do for Bill". You then released your grip
and I said nothing and left the gathering.

What did you mean, Hillary? Were you referring to my keeping quiet about the assault I had suffered at the hands of your husband only two weeks before? Were you warning me to continue to keep quiet? We both know the answer to that question. Yes, I can answer Brit Hume's question. You are the same Hillary that you were twenty years ago. You are cold, calculating and self-serving. You cannot tolerate the thought that you will soon be without the power you have wielded for the last eight
years. Your effort to stay in power will be at the expense of the state of New York. I only hope the voters of New York will wake up in time and realize that Hillary Clinton is not an honorable or an honest person.

I will end by asking if you believe the statements I made on NBC Dateline when Lisa Myers asked if I had been assaulted and raped by your husband? Or perhaps, you are like Vice-President Gore and did not see the interview.

Juanita Broaddrick
Arkansas
================================

Dateline video is posted at the site - ahhhhhh the Clinton Years......

When will this be be an HBO feature presentation?

651 lawhawk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:34:12am

re: #608 JammieWearingFool

Speak for yourself. :) I figured it was bogus. Allah wouldn't put that up in his headlines if it was the real deal.

652 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:34:43am

On a less morbid biking note, what's up with this guy's helmet?

653 irish rose  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:34:49am

It's a very risky thing to start talking about intercourse, poles and blue balls to an Irish Girl this early in the morning.

Fair warning.

654 vxbush  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:35:02am

re: #637 irish rose

Jeebus, that's horrible.
Don't show it to Charles.

I saw that picture on Fox News online. I was surprised they posted it.

Morning, everyone. We have a break in the rain right now, but it looks like it's going to be an icky day. But some wonderful person put a loaf of cinnamon-raisin bread in the breakroom along with real butter, and the ensuing mass of toast and butter was absolutely fantastic.

Realwest: I'm at work, and I don't think I have your email address. Can you turn email on for a bit? I'm leaving for an allergy shot soon, so you have to do it in....five minutes. :D

655 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:35:23am

re: #649 apachegunner

MM, I am back in SC now and the weather is great

Is there any humidity in Kuwait? Near the water?

656 JustMyView  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:36:05am

re: #612 realwest

Oh and btw, I watched all I could of Fox and Friends or whatever the early morning show is on Fox and they showed a video clip, made by some hollywood "big deal" (who's name I've forgotten because I never heard of him before) in which - in a school room setting a Black teacher with short hair and big ears says that the desired part in the school play is going to be played by Michelle - and a little black girl with hair in braids, stands up and says "Yippee" or something, at which point a young blond girl walks up to the front of the class, stands with her back to the teacher and says "No I'm going to be playing that part." The teacher reiterates that Michelle will be playing the part and the young blond girl, whom teach addresses as Hillary, says "no, I'm better for the part, I know all the lines and look - I'm already wearing the costume" ( a red dress with a flowing red scarf around her neck) while the rest of the class starts to say, indeed almost chant "not Hillary, again!".
Yes indeed, American politics has once again reached bottom and is digging (or at least the Dems are) even before EITHER party has had it's convention.

That film is meant to be a parody of Hillary's campaign. The idea is that she keeps saying she's the winner, the central figure, etc., even though she is losing. I thought it was sort of funny. What was it that bothered you about it?

657 realwest  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:36:11am

re: #642 apachegunner
LOL! Well tell 'em I said "hi" back and that they ought to take good care of y'all! When the heck did you wind up back in KU?!

658 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:36:38am

re: #650 DistantThunder

From the archives:

An Open Letter to Hillary Clinton by Juanita Brodderick

Dateline video is posted at the site - ahhhhhh the Clinton Years......

When will this be be an HBO feature presentation?

I will never forget the emotions that raged through me when I saw her interview.

659 realwest  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:37:05am

re: #654 vxbush Uh, my e-mail is turned on - my nic is in blue!

660 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:37:19am

re: #658 MandyManners

I will never forget the emotions that raged through me when I saw her interview.

Once you were finally allowed to see it, when it was safe for NBC to show it.

661 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:37:46am
662 realwest  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:38:24am

re: #649 apachegunner
Wow, that was a fast flight! LOL!

663 apachegunner  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:38:34am

re: #655 MandyManners

hahaha, the humidity is so low that the wind hurts when it blows.

664 irish rose  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:38:38am

Which reminds me... someone asked for my email the other day and I neglected to post it.

Time to run the blue nic special.

665 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:39:20am

re: #661 ploome hineni

Causing it does not obligate one to relieve it.

However, there are terms for women who deliberately cause it.

666 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:39:22am

re: #660 JamesTKirk

Gotta' admit my disdain for HRC is back in full swing. Any woman who would stay married to a rapist in order to climb the political ladder is beneath contempt.

667 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:39:39am

I hope Hillary only "suspends" her campaign. They may need her come October.

668 apachegunner  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:40:16am

re: #657 realwest
spent almost two months fielding a new Brigade Combat system

669 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:41:12am

re: #663 apachegunner

hahaha, the humidity is so low that the wind hurts when it blows.

I remember some serious problems when I moved from Seattle to Denver. Clogged, bloody nose every moring. Skin dried out to the point of cracking. Are those problems common in Kuwait? Do soldiers use lotion or is that too metrosexual?

670 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:41:28am
671 vxbush  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:41:41am

re: #659 realwest

Uh, my e-mail is turned on - my nic is in blue!

Duh. Okay, caffeine may need to be started sooner rather than later. But allergy shot first. Later, lizards.

672 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:42:24am

re: #666 MandyManners

Appropriate post for that number.

673 apachegunner  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:42:47am

re: #669 MandyManners
vasoline in the nose, 60 sunblock on nose and NSN 8575-02-7754 lotion on all exposed areas :)

674 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:43:08am

re: #669 MandyManners

I remember some serious problems when I moved from Seattle to Denver. Clogged, bloody nose every moring. Skin dried out to the point of cracking. Are those problems common in Kuwait? Do soldiers use lotion or is that too metrosexual?

I helped a Cub Scout troop send all kinds of stuff to the 101st a couple of years back, including lotion, TP, gum, hard candy, small toys to hand out, etc. I hope I didn't offend any of them...

675 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:43:14am

re: #672 MandyManners

Appropriate post for that number.

yer sech a debbil!

676 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:43:14am

re: #670 ploome hineni

lol, of course not

but back in the last century one felt really really bad to be (inadvertantly)the cause such pain

and, frankly, one really did not have to do very much to cause it

:P

Respiration can cause it for some.

677 DistantThunder  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:43:17am

re: #666 MandyManners

Gotta' admit my disdain for HRC is back in full swing. Any woman who would stay married to a rapist in order to climb the political ladder is beneath contempt.

The Clinton Graft and Corruption is pretty typical of banana republic politicians - but the rape and assaults, remember Kathleen Willey who took a lie detector test also alleges that Clinton assaulted her - is right out of the Saddam regime.

Let her stay a senator and limit her damage to the poor people of New York.

678 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:43:40am

Is There a Shocking Michelle Obama Recording?

An untold story lies behind Hillary Clinton’s determination to remain in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination — the possible revelation of a shocking recording of rival Barack Obama’s wife Michelle.

That’s the word from longtime political analyst Roger J. Stone Jr., who writes on his The StoneZONE Web site that the recording purportedly documents Michelle Obama making racist comments in a speech.

According to Stone, Hillary aides are in a race with Republicans to get their hands on the offensive recording.

“On the heels of Michelle Obama’s quote that she ‘has never been proud of her country’ until now, the new controversy could turn the contest upside down, but it more likely” to benefit “John McCain than to boost Hillary Clinton to the nomination — if the alleged recording exists,” Stone writes.

He also asserts that Mark Penn, Clinton’s former chief campaign strategist, has told sources that the bombshell “could come this week.

Popcorn time?

679 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:43:58am

re: #673 apachegunner

vasoline in the nose, 60 sunblock on nose and NSN 8575-02-7754 lotion on all exposed areas :)

Do ya'll do manicures to keep the cuticles from drying out and cracking?

680 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:44:06am

re: #651 lawhawk

Speak for yourself. :) I figured it was bogus. Allah wouldn't put that up in his headlines if it was the real deal.

He may have if he were working on a story related to it. He migrates items from the headlines to regular items quite often. I did suspect it was a gag.

I guess I shuld have put it under humor in the spinoffs.

Not everyone gets the joke, I guess.

681 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:44:16am

re: #676 MandyManners

Respiration can cause it for some.

I'm not 17 anymore, so it's less of an issue.

682 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:44:29am
683 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:45:00am
684 apachegunner  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:45:25am

re: #679 MandyManners
haha, your "ragging" me right?

685 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:45:32am

re: #677 DistantThunder


Let her stay a senator and limit her damage to the poor people of New York.

A US Senator can damage all fifty-seven states...Hillary and Chuck the Schmuck are proof that New York carries a grudge, IMO.

And the selection from California...ye gods, what did we do to them?

686 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:46:45am

re: #674 OldLineTexan

I helped a Cub Scout troop send all kinds of stuff to the 101st a couple of years back, including lotion, TP, gum, hard candy, small toys to hand out, etc. I hope I didn't offend any of them...

I dont' get why *some* men think their skin should get rough and tough just because.

687 irish rose  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:46:55am

re: #661 ploome hineni

I'm brassy, buxom Irish redhead. Have caused (and cured) a number of cases over the years.

But I digress.

/mmmmm, bacon and eggs...

688 realwest  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:46:57am

re: #640 tfc3rid Good morning my friend!
Uh, why would Hillary bail before the convention? She already has some female supporters saying that they are gonna raise hell on the convention floor about Michigan and Florida Dem voters being treated as "half-people" and she does have the popular vote lead now, and is likely to add to it with the Wyoming and South Dakota Primaries.
Remember Barry's refrain (when he had the majority of the popular vote and Hillary the superdelegates):
Let the people decide not some fat cats (i.e., the superdelegates) determine the candidate.
Still and all you may be correct, but since this WILL be her last chance for a shot at POTUS and since we all know how well Hillary takes losing anything,
I just don't see her giving up - not at all. And if she "supports" Obama, what does she get in return?
Hillary doesn't do "good deeds" or attempts to "hold the party together" for nothing - especially after the way she feels she and Bill (thanks, Vanity Fair) have been treated by the Party.

689 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:46:59am

re: #669 MandyManners

Do soldiers use lotion or is that too metrosexual?

It puts the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again.

690 DistantThunder  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:47:12am

re: #685 OldLineTexan

A US Senator can damage all fifty-seven states...Hillary and Chuck the Schmuck are proof that New York carries a grudge, IMO.

And the selection from California...ye gods, what did we do to them?

True - that is why the Dems are running conservative candidates for Congress, just to keep the majority.

691 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:47:13am

re: #675 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

yer sech a debbil!

Oh, not I. Bill Clinton.

692 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:47:16am

re: #683 ploome hineni

we should be grateful we made it

lol

Most days, I am. I could not be 17 again without a memory wipe...plus, I would not particularly want to be a teenager right now, but I suppose that is also age-related.

693 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:47:16am

re: #687 irish rose

Purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

694 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:48:43am

re: #677 DistantThunder

The Clinton Graft and Corruption is pretty typical of banana republic politicians - but the rape and assaults, remember Kathleen Willey who took a lie detector test also alleges that Clinton assaulted her - is right out of the Saddam regime.

Let her stay a senator and limit her damage to the poor people of New York.

I've never been ashamed of the office of the president until--and, since--WJC.

695 maddogg  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:48:44am

I love to sit on my front porch on a cool fall afternoon, overlooking the multi-hued hills and valleys of the beautiful Ozarks, with a frosty mug of my home brew balanced on my knee, and these guys playing on the hi-fi. Heaven!

696 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:48:52am

re: #686 MandyManners

I dont' get why *some* men think their skin should get rough and tough just because.

Well, don't worry about me...my knuckles crack if I handle too much corrugated (a job hazard in the lab), so I have to use Aveeno on a regular basis to avoid pain and bleeding on stuff.

697 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:49:08am
698 itellu3times  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:49:15am

re: #685 OldLineTexan

And the selection from California...ye gods, what did we do to them?

(think Charlton Heston at the end of Planet of the Apes)

We did it to ourselves!

699 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:49:23am

re: #681 OldLineTexan

I'm not 17 anymore, so it's less of an issue.

LOL!

700 DesertSage  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:50:06am

Before the Dems took control of congress, they promised us that they had a plan to reduce gas prices.

Since they took over, gas prices have almost doubled.
Shouldn't they be held accountable?

701 DistantThunder  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:50:12am

My commercial fantasy:

No Wonder Martin Luther King was A Republican

"We need school choice, but the Democrats won't let us have it"
"We want 100% of the vote counted - and Democrats won't count all the delegates or all the votes."

Republcians play by the rules - No Wonder Martin Luther King was a Republican.

702 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:50:22am

re: #681 OldLineTexan

I'm not 17 anymore, so it's less of an issue.

The quantity of your issue is more information than I needed.

703 Ojoe  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:50:48am

re: #685 OldLineTexan

I am very embarassed by Pelosi, Boxer and Feinstein.

I didn't vote for them, But I offer my apologies anyway.

Towercam is on the blink this morning.
Breakfast

704 realwest  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:51:02am

re: #668 apachegunner
A new Brigade Combat System? Ooh, that sounds interesting - can y'all say anything about it to us?

705 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:51:11am

re: #684 apachegunner

haha, your "ragging" me right?

Oh, no. I'm not talking about manicures with buffing and the like (although buffing is good for the circulation). I'm talking about rubbing and pushing back the cuticles.

706 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:51:28am

re: #689 JamesTKirk

It puts the "f****n' lotion in the basket!

Silence. The Musical

[Link: www.jonandal.com...]

707 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:52:24am

re: #698 itellu3times

(think Charlton Heston at the end of Planet of the Apes)

We did it to ourselves!

I have voted in Texas for almost thirty years; Babs "Nags" Boxer and Dianne "Pass the cash to my husband" Feinstein are not my fault.

I probably share guilt for the lack of guts on the part of Kay Bailey Hutchison, though I think John Cornyn is 90% OK.

708 apachegunner  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:52:27am

re: #704 realwest Only that it allows command staff to view the entire theater in real time and provide direction with immediate response.

709 DistantThunder  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:52:31am

re: #703 Ojoe

I am very embarassed by Pelosi, Boxer and Feinstein.

I didn't vote for them, But I offer my apologies anyway.

Towercam is on the blink this morning.
Breakfast

I voted for Prop 13 when I was 18 in California that froze property taxes until the property was sold.

710 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:52:38am

re: #689 JamesTKirk

It puts the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again.

Gotta' say that I didn't expect that.

711 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:52:50am

re: #688 realwest

Hillary is the epitome of the "We will triumph or take the whole world with us" mentality of the true totalitarian. She can keep it under wraps on occasion, but her malignant narcissism knows no depths.

712 apachegunner  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:52:57am

re: #705 MandyManners
we wear gloves

713 Silhouette  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:53:02am

re: #692 OldLineTexan

plus, I would not particularly want to be a teenager right now,

Yep.

If a magic fairy offered to make me 16 again, I'd require that it also be 19...well, the same year as before, or no deal.

714 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:53:03am

re: #702 JamesTKirk

You funny man. We keel you last.

715 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:53:08am

re: #700 DesertSage

Before the Dems took control of congress, they promised us that they had a plan to reduce gas prices.

Since they took over, gas prices have almost doubled.
Shouldn't they be held accountable?

Nah, I suggest lining them up against a wall.......

716 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:53:43am
717 Silhouette  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:55:01am

re: #700 DesertSage

Before the Dems took control of congress, they promised us that they had a plan to reduce gas prices.

Since they took over, gas prices have almost doubled.
Shouldn't they be held accountable?

See also: War on poverty, sex education, etc.

718 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:55:16am

re: #706 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It puts the "f****n' lotion in the basket!

Silence. The Musical

[Link: www.jonandal.com...]

Yep. Found that a while ago. *thumbs up*

719 DistantThunder  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:55:30am

re: #715 Nevergiveup

Nah, I suggest lining them up against a wall.......

No government official making over $100,000 should have a state car.

Somehow the pizza boys manage with their own transportation.

720 realwest  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:55:41am

re: #694 MandyManners
Well I was pretty ashamed of it while Jimmy Carter was President and not all that thrilled with it while LBJ was President, either.

721 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:55:43am

re: #710 MandyManners

Gotta' say that I didn't expect that.

What about the Spanish Inquisition?

722 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:56:04am

re: #714 OldLineTexan

You funny man. We keel you last.

What more can I ask?

723 razorbacker  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:56:14am

The Last of the Few blog has a survey regarding 'extreme rednecks' that struck my funnybone. The last, "You think 'loading the dishwasher' means getting your wife drunk".

724 DesertSage  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:56:20am

re: #717 Silhouette

See also: War on poverty, sex education, etc.

But....they promised.
Are you suggesting that the Dems are liars?

725 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:56:25am

re: #718 JamesTKirk

Had a CD of this two or three years ago and lost it. Now these guys have made "24: The Musical"

726 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:56:30am

re: #696 OldLineTexan

Well, don't worry about me...my knuckles crack if I handle too much corrugated (a job hazard in the lab), so I have to use Aveeno on a regular basis to avoid pain and bleeding on stuff.

Do you ever exfoliate?

727 Timbre  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:56:37am

O/T JIHAD

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad predicted that Muslims would uproot “satanic powers” and reaffirmed his prediction that the Jewish state will soon be wiped off the map, the Agence France-Presse news agency reported Monday.


Charles: I know your position on calls to violence in threads. But Ahmadinejad is talking exactly like Osama bin Laden in 1998. And we all remember what happened in 1998 in Kenya and Tanzania and in 2001 here. I don't think he is bluffing. He and the Jihadist mullahs have a plan in action. It is time to defend America, the western allies, and Israel, now!

728 DistantThunder  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:56:44am

re: #717 Silhouette

See also: War on poverty, sex education, etc.

How many words are there for total failure and complete corruption

Notice how we are not complaining about corruption at Macy's or Costco.

729 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:56:56am

re: #721 JamesTKirk

What about the Spanish Inquisition?

No body, etc. etc. etc.

730 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:57:36am

re: #716 NJDhockeyfan

Bank Robber Holds Gun Backward During Crime

With video.

"Don't nobody shoot or the ni**er gets it!"
Ah, Blazing Saddles...

731 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:57:56am

re: #725 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Had a CD of this two or three years ago and lost it. Now these guys have made "24: The Musical"

Never really got into 24, bu I still have the Silence MP3s somewhere.

732 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:58:03am
733 JustMyView  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:58:05am

re: #688 realwest

Good morning my friend!
Uh, why would Hillary bail before the convention? She already has some female supporters saying that they are gonna raise hell on the convention floor about Michigan and Florida Dem voters being treated as "half-people" and she does have the popular vote lead now, and is likely to add to it with the Wyoming and South Dakota Primaries.

Today's primaries are in Montana and South Dakota. The Wyoming caucus was a couple of months ago. This fact-check column shows that her claim to the popular vote is mostly wishful thinking and, more important, irrelevant, since the winner is determined by delegate count.

I just don't see her giving up - not at all. And if she "supports" Obama, what does she get in return?
Hillary doesn't do "good deeds" or attempts to "hold the party together" for nothing - especially after the way she feels she and Bill (thanks, Vanity Fair) have been treated by the Party.

She gets the chance to remain a player. If she is perceived as having cost Obama the presidency in a Democrat-friendly year, no one will want to have anything to do with her.

734 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:58:17am

re: #712 apachegunner

we wear gloves

Sounds good.

735 apachegunner  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:58:25am

re: #730 JamesTKirk
ah yes, I remember the fire side scene ahahha

736 yochanan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:58:43am

re: #644 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
blue ball is close to intercourse sounds like some one has a wicked sense of humor.

737 realwest  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:59:05am

re: #708 apachegunner
Holy Shit! At the Brigade level? Man, back in the day we had problems with the Company level - course the jungle had a lot to do with that, too!

738 apachegunner  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 6:59:40am

re: #737 realwest
haha Real, not much jungle where the action is huh?

739 apachegunner  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:00:46am

Although it would not effect this system anyway

740 realwest  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:00:54am

re: #711 Lucius Septimius Hey hi Lucius - thought I saw an earlier post by you that said you were leaving?!
Anyway, you're right about Hillary (and Bill - he isn't used to be dissed like this by his own party hacks and the MSM).

741 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:01:04am

re: #719 DistantThunder

No government official making over $100,000 should have a state car.

Somehow the pizza boys manage with their own transportation.

I agree for officials who don't need protection. As for the rest, let them drive themselves.

742 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:01:04am
743 Silhouette  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:01:41am

re: #724 DesertSage

But....they promised.
Are you suggesting that the Dems are liars?

They are, of course, but I don't think that is the problem here.

They see a crisis, sometimes real but more often that not imagined, and propose something to "fix" it that any sane person can see will make it worse. But they truly believe that leftism will work this time.

744 irish rose  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:01:46am

Well lizards, its' been real as always but the the dishes await, clean laundry is piling up and its' time to get the ironing done.

Later :).

745 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:02:18am

re: #720 realwest

Well I was pretty ashamed of it while Jimmy Carter was President and not all that thrilled with it while LBJ was President, either.

I was too young to know anything about LBJ but, I do remember being mad as hell about the hostages in Tehran.

746 godfrey  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:02:39am

Exfoliation? Ah, the joys of leprosy. I burned myself like a pig on a spit a week ago and could go into business making vellum.

747 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:02:48am

re: #721 JamesTKirk

What about the Spanish Inquisition?

I always expect the Inquisition.

748 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:03:20am

re: #740 realwest

Back for a few minutes between rounds of chores. Busy day today.

749 razorbacker  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:03:56am

And here's another from Last of the Few...

Here's a quote from a government employee who witnessed a recent interaction between an elderly woman and an antiwar protester in a Metro station in DC.

There were protesters on the train platform handing out pamphlets on the evils of America.

I politely declined to take one.

An elderly woman was behind me getting off the escalator and a young (20-ish) female protester offered her a pamphlet, which she politely declined.

The young protester put her hand on the old woman's shoulder as a gesture of friendship and in a very soft voice said, 'Lady, don't you care about the children of Iraq?'

The old woman looked up at her and said, 'Honey, my father died in France during World War II, I lost my husband in Korea, and a son in Vietnam. All three died so you could have the right to stand here and bad mouth our country. If you touch me again, I'll stick this umbrella up your ass and open it.'

H/T Don Emslie

750 funky chicken  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:04:20am

re: #649 apachegunner

MM, I am back in SC now and the weather is great

I tried to complain to my husband about the weather here in AL...95 and humid. He started laughing and said we should all get out and enjoy such mild temperatures.

He's in Qatar right now.

For Mandy--he said it's very humid in Qatar and about 110 these days.

751 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:04:27am
752 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:05:27am

re: #742 ploome hineni

exfoliant

Hard-core. I prefer an oatmeal/yogurt/corn meal combo.

753 apachegunner  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:05:55am

re: #750 funky chicken
I love the humidty it like a hug from a beautiful woman

754 WriterMom  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:06:00am
755 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:06:20am
756 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:06:34am

re: #744 irish rose

Well lizards, its' been real as always but the the dishes await, clean laundry is piling up and its' time to get the ironing done.

Later :).

Egads. I just remembered that I have three loads ready to be folded. It waited this long, it can wait a bit longer.

757 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:06:47am

re: #716 NJDhockeyfan

Bank Robber Holds Gun Backward During Crime

With video.

The explanation of the talking head is hilarious. "If this had been a fake gun, he would have held it normally, because he wouldn't have been worried about it going off. But this was a real, loaded gun, so he was scared to death of it." Er... right... which is why he pointed it at himself.

Good morning.

758 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:07:03am
759 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:07:07am

re: #730 JamesTKirk

"Listen to him, men, he's just crazy enough to do it!"

760 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:07:52am

re: #750 funky chicken

The X was all over Southwest Asia years ago and would sometimes complain about the humidity.

761 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:07:57am

re: #756 MandyManners

Egads. I just remembered that I have three loads ready to be folded. It waited this long, it can wait a bit longer.

Last week our dryer broke; while I waited for it to be finished, the laundry piled up. Punchline: ten loads on Friday and Sunday.

"As God is my witness, I will never be underwearless again!" (cue music)

762 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:08:00am

re: #726 MandyManners

Do you ever exfoliate?

Not on purpose...

763 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:08:28am

re: #760 MandyManners

The X was all over Southwest Asia years ago and would sometimes complain about the humidity.

Enough humidity in Georgia for me; don't need to go anywhere with more.

764 godfrey  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:08:44am

re: #751 ploome hineni

The cost of a Perfect Tan™ does come dear if one isn't careful. Still, I enjoy the circular peeling on my forearms, which is like an innocuous reminder of the Bubonic Plague. The only cure is a quart bottle of diet tonic water spiked with limes and English gin.

765 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:09:10am

re: #755 ploome hineni

think about a salt scrub

the whole process of the Roman bath seems interesting

I've a jar of Dead Sea salt scrub. It's great for the hands.

766 apachegunner  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:09:17am

seeya lizards stay warm

767 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:09:57am

re: #764 godfrey

There is little that a G&T or eight won't cure. Marriage, for example ...

768 WriterMom  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:10:36am

re: #757 Occasional Reader

he's probably not familiar with handguns

LOL. Ya think?

769 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:11:36am

re: #758 ploome hineni

where do you get these?

My BF from college gave me a recipe. I cannot recall the exact measurements so I just guess at the amounts. The oats must be shredded first.

770 godfrey  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:11:44am

re: #767 Lucius Septimius

Ah, but that way madness lies.

re: #768 WriterMom

I wonder if he'd have done the same with a large sword.

771 godfrey  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:12:26am

re: #769 MandyManners

Shredded? By hand?

772 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:12:44am

re: #754 WriterMom

OT: Gambia-Behead Those Who Have Teh Ghey

Last month, President Yahya Jammeh's threatened to behead gay people at a political rally and said they had 24 hours to leave the country.

I give the Beeb a little credit here for using the gayest-looking photo of Jammeh they could find. But I'm a little baffled by their use of the English language:

Mr Jammeh's statements have been condemned by gay rights activists but the AP news agency says it was backed by the country's Supreme Islamic Council, which said the president had taken a "principled stand".

How is the first clause contradicted by the second, Beeb?

773 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:13:11am

re: #761 Lucius Septimius

Last week our dryer broke; while I waited for it to be finished, the laundry piled up. Punchline: ten loads on Friday and Sunday.

"As God is my witness, I will never be underwearless again!" (cue music)

LOL!

774 WriterMom  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:13:13am

re: #770 godfrey

"Gimme your money, or I'll shoot..."

You just can't make this stuff up..

775 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:14:01am
776 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:14:15am

re: #762 OldLineTexan

Not on purpose...

Keeps the dry skin from piling up and improves circulation.

777 funky chicken  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:14:50am

re: #685 OldLineTexan

A US Senator can damage all fifty-seven states...Hillary and Chuck the Schmuck are proof that New York carries a grudge, IMO.

And the selection from California...ye gods, what did we do to them?

LOL hey, leave the ol' gals alone

778 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:16:02am

re: #763 Lucius Septimius

Enough humidity in Georgia for me; don't need to go anywhere with more.

I remember waking up in the mornings when I was a kid to a hushed, mist-wrapped world.

779 realwest  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:16:12am

re: #733 JustMyView
Oops, sorry - got Wyoming and Montana confused.
But you have missed the CENTRAL part of my argument - she does indeed have a majority of the popular vote in the Dem Primaries and she could rightly sing the former Obama refrain "Let the voters decide on the Candidate, not the superdelegates or Caucuses". And btw, why didn't Obama at the very least have his name on the ballot in Michigan? She doesn't have the lead in popular votes ONLY if you give ALL of the uncommitted votes to Obama and assume popular votes in several caucus states would've gone his way as well.
I dunno - Hillary won the popular vote in Texas and (in the Dem Party Twilight zone of choosing a candidate), Obama got most of the delegates.
But even if what you say about popular vote is true
and it does make a LOT of assumptions about the caucus states "popular votes", Hillary still has the half vote in Michigan and Florida to fight with at the Convention.
This is Hillary's last shot at POTUS - and she want's to be POTUS so badly it truly hurts her. She may quit and support Obama, that's a possibility, but I really doubt it - and if she does and does throw her support to Obama, he better have a bunch of NOI guys watching his back.

780 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:16:27am

re: #776 MandyManners

Keeps the dry skin from piling up and improves circulation.

I've never really understood why exfoliation would be a good thing. We're SUPPOSED to have a layer of dead skin between us and the environment. That's not a bug, it's a feature.

781 godfrey  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:16:40am

re: #772 Occasional Reader

There was a time when the slipper was on the other foot:

Memorial of St. Charles Lwanga and Companions, martyrs

They are the first martyrs of Sub-Saharan Africa and true witnesses of the Christian faith. Charles Lwanga, a catechist and a young leader, was martyred in 1886 with a group of Catholic and Anglican royal pages, some of whom were not yet baptized. King Mwanga, who despised the Christian religion, gave orders that all the Christian pages in his service be laid upon a mat, bound, placed onto a pyre and burnt. This took place at Namugongo, just outside Kampala.

Charles was one of twenty-two Ugandan martyrs who converted from paganism. He was baptized November 1885, a year before his death, and became a moral leader. He was the chief of the royal pages and was considered the strongest athlete of the court. He was also known as "the most handsome man of the Kingdom of the Uganda." He instructed his friends in the Catholic Faith and he personally baptized boy pages. He inspired and encouraged his companions to remain chaste and faithful. He protected his companions, ages 13-30, from the immoral acts and homosexual demands of the Babandan ruler, Mwanga.

782 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:16:46am

re: #766 apachegunner

seeya lizards stay warm

Have a great day!

783 Sizzlack  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:17:20am

The writer of this piece is hilarious. Yes lets make all our 10th graders read Obama's speech every year. And then after that lesson plan, lets teach them how he would go on to sell them both out after saying outright doing so was impossible. We can teach our youth what a real politician is...a slug.

784 realwest  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:17:21am

re: #779 realwest Oh and just how does she get to remain a "player"?!

785 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:17:23am

re: #771 godfrey

Shredded? By hand?

In a blender.

786 godfrey  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:18:31am

re: #780 Occasional Reader

Yes, but Lizard Master Rove requires at least an annual molt.

787 realwest  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:18:49am

re: #738 apachegunner
"not much jungle where the action is huh?" Huh?

788 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:19:03am

re: #775 ploome hineni

these are great, at most Chinese or Korean markets. I have been using these for years

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

I have something similar. Of course, I have to keep it hidden or else The Kid will use it.

789 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:19:25am
790 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:20:04am

re: #781 godfrey

Death... or burundanga!

791 realwest  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:20:23am

re: #748 Lucius Septimius Ah, you still in that seminar or was that a one day affair? How the heck are you, anyway?

792 lawhawk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:20:26am

re: #774 WriterMom

"Gimme your money, or I'll shoot..."

You just can't make this stuff up..

Stop, or the $@!~* gets it. /bart holding gun to own head in Blazing Saddles

793 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:20:39am

re: #785 MandyManners

re: #771 godfrey

Shredded? By hand?

In a blender.

Hey, get a room, you two.

794 funky chicken  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:21:07am

re: #700 DesertSage

Before the Dems took control of congress, they promised us that they had a plan to reduce gas prices.

Since they took over, gas prices have almost doubled.
Shouldn't they be held accountable?

Awesome commercial idea. Then could be followed with a pitch for McCain's temporary tax relief for the summer, which Obama opposes.

Short, sweet, to the point.

795 godfrey  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:22:03am

Obama's speech "on race" in Philly is nothing more than a laundry list of Democratic policy planks dressed up with mediocre language and festooned with every brainless, hackneyed rhetorical technique in the book.

796 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:22:16am

re: #794 funky chicken

Then could be followed with a pitch for McCain's temporary tax relief for the summer, which Obama opposes.

On this one, I actually agree with Obama. It's a "gimmick", and a lousy idea.

797 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:22:19am

re: #794 funky chicken

Awesome commercial idea. Then could be followed with a pitch for McCain's temporary tax relief for the summer, which Obama opposes.

Short, sweet, to the point.

And racist as all hell, using Obama's words and actions against him.

/

798 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:22:32am

re: #778 MandyManners

I remember waking up in the mornings when I was a kid to a hushed, mist-wrapped world.

Still here waitin' for ya.

I wish I could get to the beach, but it ain't gonna happen this year.

799 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:22:58am

re: #780 Occasional Reader

I've never really understood why exfoliation would be a good thing. We're SUPPOSED to have a layer of dead skin between us and the environment. That's not a bug, it's a feature.

I'm not talking about exfoliating down to the nub. I'm talking about removing excess dead cells, especially on the face. Wiki has a good short article on it.

800 realwest  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:23:02am

re: #757 Occasional Reader Good morning O.R. - unless there's more video that they didn't show, it looked to me as if he was just showing it to the teller - briefly - to prove he had it; he didn't really point it at anyone.

801 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:23:10am

re: #791 realwest

Seminar goes for four days; day two today. As to the other question, check your inbox in a few minutes.

802 godfrey  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:23:42am

BBL. Off to shred some oats and look up "burundanga."

803 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:23:54am

re: #777 funky chicken

LOL hey, leave the ol' gals alone

I would be happy to if they would stop screwing up my country and my way of life. I am particularly unhappy with Dianne "Triggerfinger" Feinstein and her anti-firearms crusades.

804 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:23:55am

re: #793 Occasional Reader

Hey, get a room, you two.

LOL!

805 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:24:04am

re: #795 godfrey

Obama's speech "on race" in Philly is nothing more than a laundry list of Democratic policy planks dressed up with mediocre language and festooned with every brainless, hackneyed rhetorical technique in the book.

I am always amazed on how many intelligent liberals (yes, they do exist) believe that this was some sort of rhetorical masterwork. The thing sounds like a parody of political puffery. (Ooh, alliteration!) I can't believe anyone can listen to it without laughing.

806 WriterMom  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:25:20am

re: #799 MandyManners

nub

LOL.

807 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:25:37am

re: #798 Lucius Septimius

Still here waitin' for ya.

I wish I could get to the beach, but it ain't gonna happen this year.

The Kid's never been to the beach. I'll remedy that one day.

808 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:25:39am

re: #802 godfrey

BBL. Off to shred some oats and look up "burundanga."

"Burundaga" sounds ominous, but if the punchline is "Death by burundga!" start running...

809 acwgusa  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:25:40am

I put in a bid on a house in Las Vegas, Nevada today! Here's hoping I can escape from California! Wish me luck, Lizards!

810 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:26:00am

re: #800 realwest

Good morning O.R. - unless there's more video that they didn't show, it looked to me as if he was just showing it to the teller - briefly - to prove he had it; he didn't really point it at anyone.

I thought the accompanying article mentioned that he pointed it at himself on the way out... I agree that what you see in the video is basically the guy "flashing" the gun.

811 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:26:06am

re: #809 acwgusa

I put in a bid on a house in Las Vegas, Nevada today! Here's hoping I can escape from California! Wish me luck, Lizards!

Good luck! Can I come visit?

812 JustMyView  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:26:13am

re: #779 realwest


But even if what you say about popular vote is true and it does make a LOT of assumptions about the caucus states "popular votes", Hillary still has the half vote in Michigan and Florida to fight with at the Convention.

Any way of counting the popular votes makes a lot of assumptions, but the bottom line is that it doesn't matter what the popular vote is, no matter how many times HRC says it does. The measure of interest is delegates, and Obama has about 160 more of them.

Look for Hillary to drop out before the end of the week, if not tonight. A person cannot run a winning campaign as a major-party candidate without the support of party leaders, and she does not have that support.

There's no doubt that it was a close race--almost a tie, but it's over now. In fact, nothing has changed since early March. The accumulated vote totals are larger, but the outcome is the same.

813 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:26:30am

re: #806 WriterMom

Yeah, if you hit bone and sinew, you've gone too far.

814 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:26:49am

re: #808 OldLineTexan

I know that joke! Ha! (tho it was Ooga Booga, when I heard it)

815 WriterMom  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:27:10am

re: #813 MandyManners

Thanks for the tips.

816 Biff  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:27:39am

What is going on with this meme of the committed super delegates? There is no such thing. The super delegates votes are not committed until they are cast on the convention floor. The fact that delegates who were once pledged to Hillary are now pledged to BHO, would indicate that "pledged" does not mean "committed". The idea that the MSM is keeping a tally of committed super delegates in order to put Obama over the top of the moving target threshold (currently 1/2 all delegates less 1/2(FL and MI) +1) leads to a false conclusion that BHO will soon lock up the nomination. The only way for Obama to definitively lock the nomination before the convention would be for him to win enough elected delegates in the primaries to exceed 1/2 the number of all elected delegates and super delegates. He clearly has not done this. What is going on is comparable to shortening the finish up in the Belmont Stakes in order to assure a Triple Crown winner. Using this methodology, placing the finish line at the eighth pole would have given both Smarty Jones and Real Quiet the Triple Crown in recent years. Are we as a nation so desperate for a Triple Crown, that at whatever point of the Belmont this weekend Big Brown takes the lead, the race will be declared finished and a new champion will be crowned?

817 acwgusa  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:27:45am

re: #811 JamesTKirk

It's a huge house, for one person, 2918 square feet, but the price was so good, I had to put a bid in. So yeah, House party!

818 realwest  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:28:24am

re: #809 acwgusa
Uh, Las Vegas Nevada is where you want to live?
Well, ok then, GOOD LUCK!

819 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:28:32am

re: #814 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I know that joke! Ha! (tho it was Ooga Booga, when I heard it)

Ooga Booga? No no no that's all wrong... "burundanga" is the correct term, in Primitive Tribesmanese.

820 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:29:19am

re: #809 acwgusa

I put in a bid on a house in Las Vegas, Nevada today! Here's hoping I can escape from California! Wish me luck, Lizards!

Good luck. Don't even think of committing any crimes there and hiding the evidence... I hear their CSI teams are really good.

821 acwgusa  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:29:26am

re: #818 realwest

I'm close enough to Searchlight to throw things at Harry Reid!

822 UFO TOFU  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:29:52am

Worthington Man Expected to Plead Guilty to Terrorism Charge

Christopher Paul is expected to plead guilty on Tuesday at Noon. According to court documents there is no minimum penalty for the crime. The maximum penalty Paul could face is life in prison, a $250,000 alternative fine, 5 years supervised release, and a $100 special assessment.


A special assesment? That's brutal.

823 VegasRick  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:31:13am

re: #817 acwgusa

It's a huge house, for one person, 2918 square feet, but the price was so good, I had to put a bid in. So yeah, House party!

What area are you looking at?

824 WriterMom  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:31:26am

re: #822 UFO TOFU

Interesting that the "man" has no discernable religion-although it would appear that the other two fellows are...wait for it....Muslims. Strange.

825 paradox42  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:31:26am

OT

Why are there ads for [Link: www.wecansolveit.org...] and the NYT on LGF? Is it just me that's seeing these things?

re: #805 Occasional Reader

As an intelligent liberal (a very lonely place at the moment), I concur with your awesomely alliterative assessment of the speech.

826 realwest  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:31:40am

re: #812 JustMyView
OK, say Hillary quits - how does she remain a "Player" since so many Dems can't stand her (and I don't necessarily mean voters, I mean the Party Leaders who came out for Obama VERY EARLY in the Primary season)? I surely don't see her as VP candidate (even Obama isn't that dumb and she'd take it as an insult) so how does she remain a player?

827 DistantThunder  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:32:23am

Yesterday I posted a link to articles on food storage, a 3 month supply and more. My church, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS aka Mormon) just released these articles on:

Pandemic Planning at Provident Living.org

It includes information on
Social distancing
Sheltering in Place
Infectious Disease Clean-up
Personal Protective Equipment

And more

This website is geared towards families - and individuals, and is based on thousands of relief mission that the church has been involved in, a well as research.

828 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:32:28am
829 acwgusa  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:32:47am

re: #823 VegasRick

North Las Vegas, the Aliante area.

830 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:32:50am

bbiab

831 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:33:14am

[Link: graphjam.com...]

832 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:33:53am

re: #819 Occasional Reader

Three captured missionaries who had their choice of how to die. Suicide by any means of their choice or the cannibals would kill them and eat them, use their bones for tools and use their skin to make their canoes watertight.

Other two shoot themselves. Last guy chooses suicide by fork. He starts brutally stabbing himself all over with the fork. Just before he dies, he screams (Braveheart Style) ...

"FUCK YOUR CANOES!"

833 DesertSage  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:34:02am

re: #818 realwest

Uh, Las Vegas Nevada is where you want to live?
Well, ok then, GOOD LUCK!

VegasRick....would you like to respond?

834 Golem Akbar  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:34:11am

Good morning Lizard Nation!
Nearly totally back to the routine after marrying off my baby girl (she's an adult now, but to me she'll always be my little girl). [sigh]

835 VegasRick  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:34:29am

re: #829 acwgusa

North Las Vegas, the Aliante area.

That's exactly where I live!

836 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:34:32am
837 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:34:49am
838 Sizzlack  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:34:54am
839 JustMyView  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:35:25am

re: #826 realwest

OK, say Hillary quits - how does she remain a "Player" since so many Dems can't stand her (and I don't necessarily mean voters, I mean the Party Leaders who came out for Obama VERY EARLY in the Primary season)? I surely don't see her as VP candidate (even Obama isn't that dumb and she'd take it as an insult) so how does she remain a player?

That remains to be seen. The most likely model, I think, is Ted Kennedy, a senator who wins respect within the Senate by being highly knowledgeable, hardworking, and willing to work across party lines. I know not everyone here sees Kennedy that way, but, from everything I've read, that's how he's viewed within the Senate.

840 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:35:36am

re: #838 Sizzlack

What is the link?

841 acwgusa  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:35:59am

re: #835 VegasRick

That's exactly where I live!

I was through there this weekend, it really is a nice place.

842 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:36:05am

re: #814 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I know that joke! Ha! (tho it was Ooga Booga, when I heard it)

Yes, here it is booga-booga.

843 republic  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:36:24am

I just heard on the radio, that "Ted Kennedy said he searched this country over to find the best doctor to perform his surgery".

When the Democrats get their "socialized medicine", there will be no choice of doctors, except for the "royalty" in Washington D.C.

There will be millions of elderly Americans who will be put in certain rooms, to "keep them comfortable", rather than to give them, say, kidney dialysis.

If you think I'm exaggerating, I feel sorry for you.

844 UFO TOFU  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:36:33am

re: #809 acwgusa
Good luck! I would love to get out of CA. We're seriously looking at Boulder City.

845 Karridine  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:36:40am

re: #839 JustMyView

Who can make one for THIS Obama story?

846 Sizzlack  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:36:45am

re: #840 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What is the link?

HERE

847 jcm  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:36:48am

A Strategic Retreat? (Powerline)

We wrote here about Barack Obama's Iraq dilemma. He has ridden the Democratic Party's defeatism to a virtual lock on the Presidential nomination, even as events in Iraq have proved his defeatism wrong. So what is he to do in anticipation of the general election, in which defeatism, on the most optimistic assumptions, will not be as popular as in the Democratic primaries?

This morning, the editorial board of the Washington Post, in my view the most respectable voice of the Democratic Party, acknowledged the surge's success and urged Obama to re-think his Iraq policy:

If the positive trends continue, proponents of withdrawing most U.S. troops, such as Mr. Obama, might be able to responsibly carry out further pullouts next year. Still, the likely Democratic nominee needs a plan for Iraq based on sustaining an improving situation, rather than abandoning a failed enterprise. That will mean tying withdrawals to the evolution of the Iraqi army and government, rather than an arbitrary timetable; Iraq's 2009 elections will be crucial. It also should mean providing enough troops and air power to continue backing up Iraqi army operations such as those in Basra and Sadr City. When Mr. Obama floated his strategy for Iraq last year, the United States appeared doomed to defeat. Now he needs a plan for success.


The Post's advice coincides with what looks like an attempt by Obama to walk back his pessimism, at least partially. His senior strategist, David Axelrod, denied that Obama had ever asserted that the surge would produce no good results. That denial was plainly false, as this video shows:

848 realwest  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:37:13am

re: #833 DesertSage
Hey, I thought we were friends - so now you're stirring the pot (or at least VegasRick) up against me?
Have you ever even been to Las Vegas? Oh wait, I forgot where you live, nevermind!

849 VegasRick  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:37:21am

re: #833 DesertSage

VegasRick....would you like to respond?

"Luck" is 10% preparation and 90% perspiration" and it gets fuging HOT around these parts!

850 JustMyView  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:38:15am

re: #845 Karridine

Who can make one for THIS Obama story?

Who can make one what? I don't understand your question.

851 funky chicken  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:38:46am

re: #772 Occasional Reader

How is the first clause contradicted by the second, Beeb?

Gambia, home of slavery, FGM, and now, beheading the gheys. Sounds like just another Islamic paradise. Perhaps Obama should go over and have a nice chat with these fellows? Bring them some hope and change?

852 realwest  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:39:00am

re: #838 Sizzlack Yeah, but they'd be funnier if someone could photoshop a bus driver's cap on Obama's head!

853 zombie  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:39:35am

New at zombietime:

Israel in the Gardens protest

In case you want to get your blood boiling this early in the morning.

A sample:

The leader of the anti-Israel protest (the bald guy seen here) negotiated with the police about what the protesters were and were not allowed to do. I had heard earlier reports that their original plan was to enter the festival itself, but the police advised this group to stay across the street, to prevent any "problems." The festival entrance can be seen in the background.


The police were wise to keep the bald guy and his followers a safe distance away, because (as this video by a contributor shows) they spent most of the day calling for Israel's destruction and praising the Intifada. Watch the video to hear one of their many anti-Israel chants; Here's an exact transcript:

Israel is a racist state!
Israel is a racist state!
Israel is a genocidal state!
Israel is a genocidal state!
Free free Palestine!
Free free Palestine!
Free free Palestine!
Free free Palestine!
Long live the Intifada!
Long live the Intifada!
Long live the Intifada!
Long live the Intifada!
Intifada Intifada!
Intifada Intifada!
Intifada Intifada!
Intifada Intifada!


After hearing that, ask yourself: Can there be any doubt about their desire to destroy Israel?

854 Karridine  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:39:46am

re: #843 republic

It is relatively VERY cheap to hook people (OLD PEOPLE, too) up to automatic drug-giving machines and waste-removers, then give them sedative doses of tranquilizers and psychedelics and mood-elevators...

...to KEEP THEM COMFORTABLE and quiet while they die, even if it takes years!

855 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:40:09am

re: #846 Sizzlack

HERE

Why doesn't it allow the word "about"?

There are certain banned words which trigger the poster to be captioned only with the word "progress", and "about" appears to be one of them.

856 razorbacker  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:40:20am

This can't be right, can it? Surely those nefarious Yankees up at Maggie's Corner are pulling our legs...

Section 7.1 of the British Columbia Human Rights Code states, re a "hate" offense accusation:

...innocent intent is not a defense, nor is truth, nor is fair comment or the public interest, nor is good faith or responsible journalism.

If so, just what is the difference between a 'hate' crime and a 'thought' crime?

Lord help those poor Canadians, and while you're at it, help us poor, dumb Americans too.

857 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:40:23am
858 DesertSage  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:40:43am

re: #848 realwest

Hey, I thought we were friends - so now you're stirring the pot (or at least VegasRick) up against me?
Have you ever even been to Las Vegas? Oh wait, I forgot where you live, nevermind!

Yes, we are friends. I posted that with a smile on my face :') see?

859 funky chicken  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:41:07am

re: #796 Occasional Reader

Sorry, but no tax cut, no matter how short or gimmicky is a bad idea. My main reason for supporting the cut is for its instructional value. Sad but true, but the majority of voters can't and/or won't grasp how much damn money the gvmt takes from us without gimmicky tax cuts.

860 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:41:13am

Gotta run -- science time in a moment. Myriapods (centipedes and millipedes) and Chelicerata (spiders and scorpions) on deck for today. I hope we get to the Euryptids -- giant sea scorpions that got up to 2.5 meters in length. Now that's one big bug.

861 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:41:19am

Chávez rule by decree; rat out your neighbors, or go to jail.

President Hugo Chávez has used his decree powers to carry out a major overhaul of this country’s intelligence agencies, provoking a fierce backlash here from human rights groups and legal scholars who say the measures will force citizens to inform on one another to avoid prison terms.

Under the new intelligence law, which took effect last week, Venezuela’s two main intelligence services, the DISIP secret police and the DIM military intelligence agency, will be replaced with new agencies, the General Intelligence Office and General Counterintelligence Office, under the control of Mr. Chávez.

The new law requires people in the country to comply with requests to assist the agencies, secret police or community activist groups loyal to Mr. Chávez [read: Brown Shirts. - OR]. Refusal can result in prison terms of two to four years for most people and four to six years for government employees.

862 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:41:28am
863 WriterMom  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:41:35am

re: #834 Golem Akbar

AWWW MAZEL TOV!

864 republic  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:41:52am

re: #837 taxfreekiller

NOTWITHSTANDING, THIS WRITER FOR THE NEW YORK TIMES IS A PAID GRAVE DIGGER FOR THE VERY PAPER THAT PAYS FOR THESE LIES AND FRAUD AS THE GRAVE GET DEEP ENOUGH TO BURY ALL THE LIES TOLD BY THE NEW YORK TIMES.

BUT THE U.S. SENATE NO MATTER HOW USELESS, UNDERPERFORMED, AND MAD WITH GLOBAL WARMING LIES WILL PLOD ON TOWARD THE DESTRUCTION OF YOUR FREEDOM AND LIBERTY.

STOP THE GLOBAL WARMING LIES AND FRAUD MAKE THEM SEE THE TRUE FACTS, AND ONE WAY VIA THE RIVER AND STREAM FLOWS NOW FROM THE SNOW MELT.

[Link: www.usgs.gov...]
main site, hazard, floods, water watch or

[Link: water.usgs.gov...]
the map is by state you click the state click the blue dots or the black triangles it tells you the river and or stream flow,

most of Missouri and the Mississippi are at flood stage, many, many in the west from the snow melt also near or at flood stage

that and
[Link: www.arapahoebasin.com...]
[Link: www.timberlinelodge.com...]

Where the snow remains this day.

to inform the uninformed U.S. Senate
[Link: www.firstgov.com...]
call, fax, e-mail


I hear you tfk, most of our "trusted servants" in Washington D.C. are clinicly insane, with the only known cure, of being voted out of all public service.

865 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:42:02am

re: #854 Karridine

Where do we draw the line? Hip replacements on 90 year olds? Agressive cancer treatments on 90 year olds? Where does it stop?

I'm not trying to get all death camp here, but seriously, where do we draw the line?

866 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:42:17am

re: #853 zombie

New at zombietime:

Israel in the Gardens protest

In case you want to get your blood boiling this early in the morning.

A sample:

Oh come on -- you're missing the nuance. Plus it's just a kind of "theatre" -- performance art with a political edge. They wouldn't want anyone to actually get hurt -- they're pacifists, you know.

867 Karridine  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:42:20am

re: #850 JustMyView

Sorry... an Obama Poster?

/it seemed so clear at the time...

868 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:42:53am

re: #860 Lucius Septimius

Hell, a lobster is a big bug.

869 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:42:57am

re: #857 savage_nation

Soylent Green is PEOPLE!

dadgummit, if I'm gonna have to eat people, I don't want to eat old tough stringy ones.

870 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:43:41am

re: #868 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Imagine a lobster the size of a Buick. Then imagine it swimming at you with that hungry look.

871 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:44:10am

Gonesky

129 posts to go ....

872 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:44:33am
873 acwgusa  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:44:43am

I keep thinking: Well, there goes any financial solvency for the next 30 years!

874 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:45:19am

re: #869 Lucius Septimius

dadgummit, if I'm gonna have to eat people, I don't want to eat old tough stringy ones.

Are you making a modest proposal?

875 funky chicken  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:45:38am

re: #836 savage_nation

And PLEASE vote out Harry Reid!


Good luck on the Vegas house. We're planning a move that direction as well....we will definitely be voting against Harry next time around. I'd even vote for Luap Nor over Reid LOL and that's saying something.

876 Golem Akbar  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:45:38am

re: #863 WriterMom

AWWW MAZEL TOV!

Now I (patiently) await grandkiddies. So far, neither married daughter is budging in that direction. [gotta gotta be patient...]

877 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:45:54am

re: #834 Golem Akbar

Mazal Tov

878 Karridine  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:45:56am

re: #865 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Dunno about 'we', FBV, but ME draws the line at natural death, with the conditional use of palliatives if requested, in case of severe pain.

/but then, I was a licensed doctor...
//and in humility, I don't know HOW I might think if it were ME, writhing in pain hour after hour, day after long day...

879 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:45:56am

re: #870 Lucius Septimius

Imagine a lobster the size of a Buick. Then imagine it swimming at you with that hungry look.

Imagine a twinky the size of a school bus.

880 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:45:59am

Another Obama poster

881 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:46:09am

re: #859 funky chicken

Sorry, but no tax cut, no matter how short or gimmicky is a bad idea.

So you think we should have no taxes, on anything, ever? Wonderful. How do we pay for government, again?

The gas tax is not only a flat tax rate, it's a flat tax, PERIOD - 18 cents a gallon, no matter what the price of gas is. That money really DOES go into a "lock box" to pay for maintenance of the interstate highway system and other infrastructure. And make no mistake, that infrastructure is already is so-so condition; cutting off new funding for 3 months would only make it worse. This is like eating our seed corn, and for what - 18 cents a gallon?

882 JustMyView  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:46:21am

re: #867 Karridine

Sorry, that piece was a little too much ranting for me. I like a little more rationality and coherence in my reading material.

883 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:46:25am

(Herbert's fingers in his ears)

"LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!"

884 WriterMom  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:46:33am

re: #853 zombie

zombie, they are so fucking ugly-those Jew-haters. The rot of their terrorist souls ensures that they can never every have joy in their hearts or smiles on their faces.

LONG MAY THEY SEETHE!

Am Yisrael Chai!

885 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:46:55am

re: #879 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Imagine a twinky the size of a school bus.

What about the Twinkie™, Igon?

886 republic  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:47:05am

re: #854 Karridine

It is relatively VERY cheap to hook people (OLD PEOPLE, too) up to automatic drug-giving machines and waste-removers, then give them sedative doses of tranquilizers and psychedelics and mood-elevators...

...to KEEP THEM COMFORTABLE and quiet while they die, even if it takes years!

My wife has been in the Medical profesion for over 25 years, I know quite a bit about what goes on, and what will go on with "socialized medicine."

887 jcm  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:47:12am

Chicago Sun Times.

Obama: I have a deep faith
Barack Obama credits his multicultural upbringing for his theological point of view.

April 5, 2004

So, I have a deep faith," Obama continues. "I'm rooted in the Christian tradition. I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people.

If you have a deep faith rooted in the Christian Tradition, you cannot believe in many paths. The two are mutually exclusive.

It's perhaps an unlikely theological position for someone who places his faith squarely at the feet of Jesus to take, saying essentially that all people of faith -- Christians, Jews, Muslims, animists, everyone -- know the same God.

No, only the Jews and Christians worship the same God.

Still, Obama is unapologetic in saying he has a "personal relationship with Jesus Christ." As a sign of that relationship, he says, he walked down the aisle of Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ in response to the Rev. Jeremiah Wright's altar call one Sunday morning about 16 years ago.

Black Liberation Theology.

These days, he says, he attends the 11 a.m. Sunday service at Trinity in the Brainerd neighborhood every week -- or at least as many weeks as he is able. His pastor, Wright, has become a close confidant.

He was there for Wright's Wrants.

Friends and advisers, such as the Rev. Michael Pfleger, pastor of St. Sabina Roman Catholic Church in the Auburn- Gresham community on the South Side, who has known Obama for the better part of 20 years, help him keep that compass set, he says.

Anyone else think Phlemger's Wrant in Wrights church was planned so BHO could pitch TUCC under the bus because of what the whitely priest said?

And this guy is on the brink of the (D) nomination?
*sheesh*

888 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:47:23am

re: #878 Karridine

Sorry, getting darker than I meant to. Respect.

889 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:47:32am

Here's what I wrote on Obama's speech after he made it:
I think I'm more perceptive than the Times reporter, not that it is saying much.

My take on the speech:

I think that it was a great speech.
A great speech, a terrifying speech.
He believes in all of Wright's hateful rhetoric. He just says it better. Calmly, not ranting.
He's just saying we all have someone to hate. Blacks hate whites for keeping them down. Whites hate the corporations for sending jobs overseas.
He can unite us, unite us in hatred of the system; hatred of America.
He did say, G-d damn America, if you listened carefully enough.
He just hid it really well.

He played a whole deck of race cards while saying we shouldn't.

He's a wolf in sheep's clothing, a silver-tongued orator you don't realize is orating, wrapping his audience around his little finger - if you don't think.
And his delivery makes it harder to think. I had to keep my mind going to keep from being hypnotized.
Obama believers had no chance.

Yes, he wants change – a revolution, really. His complete slogan is
“Yes, we can stick it to the Man!”

He's dangerous.

890 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:47:52am

re: #881 Occasional Reader

So you think we should have no taxes, on anything, ever? Wonderful. How do we pay for government, again?

The gas tax is not only a flat tax rate, it's a flat tax, PERIOD - 18 cents a gallon, no matter what the price of gas is. That money really DOES go into a "lock box" to pay for maintenance of the interstate highway system and other infrastructure. And make no mistake, that infrastructure is already is so-so condition; cutting off new funding for 3 months would only make it worse. This is like eating our seed corn, and for what - 18 cents a gallon?

Much of what the government does should not be paid for (and is unconstitutional to boot).

891 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:48:01am

re: #885 JamesTKirk

I can always count on you. :)

892 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:48:17am

re: #845 Karridine

Who can make one for THIS Obama story?

That guy shouldn't yell so much - it'll make his blood pressure spike.

893 Karridine  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:48:17am

re: #870 Lucius Septimius

Imagine BUCKETS of lightly-seasoned butter, slathered over the steamed carcass of that once-hungry, buick-sized lobster, Lucius...

/Yumm!

894 realwest  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:48:20am

re: #865 Fat Bastard Vegetarian Whatcha mean "We"?! And what, 90 year olds - who've probably contributed waaay more to this nation than anyone half their age shouldn't get treatment to save their lives or help them walk?
And, yeah, no matter how you cut it or what your intent was, you are sorta getting all death camp there.

895 Sizzlack  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:48:22am

re: #855 JamesTKirk

Why doesn't it allow the word "about"?

There are certain banned words which trigger the poster to be captioned only with the word "progress", and "about" appears to be one of them.

Seriously? I didn't notice that. Ive been making pretty stupid ones like "Liberal Fascism '08!" and its worked for me.

896 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:49:13am

re: #894 realwest

So solly...(slinks away)

897 JustMyView  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:49:42am

re: #881 Occasional Reader


The gas tax is not only a flat tax rate, it's a flat tax, PERIOD - 18 cents a gallon, no matter what the price of gas is. That money really DOES go into a "lock box" to pay for maintenance of the interstate highway system and other infrastructure. And make no mistake, that infrastructure is already is so-so condition; cutting off new funding for 3 months would only make it worse. This is like eating our seed corn, and for what - 18 cents a gallon?

Also, the money spent for those highway repairs means that a lot of people are employed. I can't remember the number that was cited when the summer gas tax holiday was being touted, but a fair number of people would be put out of work if that tax wasn't collected and spent.

898 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:49:54am

re: #870 Lucius Septimius

Imagine a lobster the size of a Buick. Then imagine it swimming at you with that hungry look.

More like the size of a SmartCar... but point taken.

Did-a-chik? Dab-a-chab? Dub-a-chub?

/Stephen King reference

899 kansas  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:50:07am

I feel a tingling in my leg.

900 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:50:51am

re: #899 kansas

Might be a scorpion. Ask Lucius.

901 JamesTKirk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:51:05am

re: #895 Sizzlack

re: #855 JamesTKirk
Why doesn't it allow the word "about"?

There are certain banned words which trigger the poster to be captioned only with the word "progress", and "about" appears to be one of them.

Seriously? I didn't notice that. Ive been making pretty stupid ones like "Liberal Fascism '08!" and its worked for me.

With a little experimenting, it seems the text string which is marked for censorship is "Abo", Australian slang for "Aboriginies".

It won't take any word with "abo" in it, including "Naboo", the planetary home of Jar Jar Binks. Well, actually, I can't argue for that expurgation.

902 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:51:28am
903 funky chicken  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:51:36am

re: #822 UFO TOFU


must have violated his homeowner's association rules or something? LOL

904 Sizzlack  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:52:10am

I see whatchu mean about the poster with the word Progess coming up. But I was still able to make THIS ONE.

905 zombie  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:52:18am

re: #884 WriterMom

zombie, they are so fucking ugly-those Jew-haters. The rot of their terrorist souls ensures that they can never every have joy in their hearts or smiles on their faces.

That's kind of what I was thinking, but I decided to let the readers decide for themselves. Those "women" in the "peaceful" anti-Israel groups -- they're almost spooky, like supernatural wraiths from Hell. Every one identical, every one exuding evil.

906 JustMyView  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:52:42am

re: #892 Ward Cleaver

That guy shouldn't yell so much - it'll make his blood pressure spike.

Amen! That was my take too. I really couldn't read it because I had the sense that the writer was yelling at me . . . and I really tried.

907 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:52:46am

re: #890 JamesTKirk

Much of what the government does should not be paid for (and is unconstitutional to boot).

The Interstate Highway System is unconstitutional? Er, no.

We're not talking about a tax here to pay for grants to artists to cover religious icons with poop. This is basic national transportation infrastructure.

908 realwest  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:53:05am

re: #889 Kosh's Shadow
Excellent Post and an accurate take on that speech!

909 Karridine  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:53:25am

Ah, well... 2200 Tuesday looms in a few minutes, and I'm up at 0430...

From the jasmine-scented suburbs of Bangkok, this is Karridine signing off!
Swat dreams, Lizardim!

910 alegrias  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:53:38am

Senator Obama will double-speak at AIPAC Wednesday, tomorrow.

911 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:53:52am
912 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:54:04am

re: #893 Karridine

Imagine BUCKETS of lightly-seasoned butter, slathered over the steamed carcass of that once-hungry, buick-sized lobster, Lucius...

/Yumm!

"You're gonna need a bigger [lobster] boat..."

-Roy Scheider

913 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:54:10am

Very well done Shadow!

914 WriterMom  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:54:28am

re: #905 zombie

every one exuding evil

Absolutely. It's in their souls and exudes through their pores. You can see it. You can feel it through the screen.

915 loppyd  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:54:29am

Good Morning Lizard Nation!

I see there are already posts about Beckel on F&F this morning....

More at Gateway Pundit

Reported verbiage from Michelle Obama's tape:

“Once again, the white man keeps us down, what’s up with Whitey, Why’d he attack Iraq, Why’d he let Katrina happen, Why’d he leave millions of children behind. This is the legacy the white man gives us

916 DesertSage  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:54:58am

Fox is reporting that Hillary is conceding that Obama has enough delegates for the nomination.

917 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:55:15am

re: #909 Karridine

Karradine...how's things with Burma (you're kind of on the front lines, at least compared to me).

918 WriterMom  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:55:21am

zombie-they eminate death. They really do.

919 Karridine  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:55:41am

re: #904 Sizzlack

Sizz, what poster would you write up to hilight THIS Obama-post?

920 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:55:53am

re: #910 alegrias

Senator Obama will double-speak at AIPAC Wednesday, tomorrow.

I wonder how many times his actual anti-Israel attitude will show through the cracks.
McCain made some excellent remarks yesterday, and the Obamahdi team's response made no sense. They criticized Bush, saying the Iraq war is why Iran wants nukes (not Israel?) and that withdrawing from Iraq would change their mind. Actually, what they said made even less sense than what I just said they said.

921 razorbacker  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:56:40am

Refinishing old furnishings.

My wife has decided that she wants to refinish an old bath cabinet salvaged from her childhood home in Pine Bluff for our remodeled bath.

How old is this homemade cabinet?

It is old enough that none of the screws are the newfangled phillips style, they're all slotted. And the screws don't come to a point, they are blunt on the end. And all the panels are single planks, no plywood or chipboard. All the dovetails look to be hand cut.

It's old enough that family history says that her grandfather brought it from his father's house.

922 WriterMom  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:57:00am

re: #920 Kosh's Shadow

Obamahdi

THAT'S FUNNNNEEEEEEEEE

923 republic  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:57:01am

re: #865 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Where do we draw the line? Hip replacements on 90 year olds? Agressive cancer treatments on 90 year olds? Where does it stop?

I'm not trying to get all death camp here, but seriously, where do we draw the line?


My belief, is that if a person is terminal, you medicate to keep comfortable.

If a person will never walk again, there should be no such surgeries, and I am well aware of the "90 year old hip replacements" on people who would never walk agin, with or without it.

I am specificly refering to what will be government "expediency" of simply not being able to afford procedures, where a person today has a good chance of recovery, where "socialized medicine" will simply dictate to keep what could become a healthy person, comfortabl until they die.

History clearly shows that anytime the Federal govt takes over anything that should be left to the private sector, there is catastrophic failure from the beginning.

"Sicialized medicine" will simply become the most recent example.

It can't work, under any circumstances, the U.S. Constitution isn't made to work that way.

924 Sizzlack  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:57:27am

re: #919 Karridine

Sizz, what poster would you write up to hilight THIS Obama-post?

Maybe?

925 Golem Akbar  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:57:27am

re: #910 alegrias

Senator Obama will double-speak at AIPAC Wednesday, tomorrow.


That's going to be interesting. After McCain's speech, basically showing total support for Israel, let's see if Obama can make the same kinds of statements, and be believable. I doubt he will. He'll probably go for the "nuanced" support that Kerry gave, which was a lot of double talk that the media loves so much.

Can't wait.

926 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:58:18am

re: #925 Golem Akbar

That's going to be interesting. After McCain's speech, basically showing total support for Israel, let's see if Obama can make the same kinds of statements, and be believable. I doubt he will. He'll probably go for the "nuanced" support that Kerry gave, which was a lot of double talk that the media loves so much.

Can't wait.

Well, he can't piss off his base

927 Karridine  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:59:09am

re: #917 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Pretty much slid off the front burner, FB! The military are slave-squeezers, Thais cannot break the Burmese death-grip (even though AND because we're neighbors), and the ADMITTED deaths long since passed 73,000

/17,000 from the typhoon-tidal surge, then the rest from exposure, starvation, dehydration, disease and army intervention

/Gotta go, Vegetarian! All best...

928 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 7:59:56am

re: #906 JustMyView

Amen! That was my take too. I really couldn't read it because I had the sense that the writer was yelling at me . . . and I really tried.

I'd probably agree with most of his take, but he needs to calm down a little.

929 Golem Akbar  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 8:00:17am

re: #926 Creeping Eruption

Well, he can't piss off his base


Right. Either he pisses off his base by saying he supports Israel, or he pisses off the AIPAC people by being nuanced (a la Kerry). Either way, the fork in the road approacheth.

930 Sizzlack  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 8:00:51am

Then of course you could always go in the LOLCATZ direction...

931 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 8:01:00am

re: #925 Golem Akbar

That's going to be interesting. After McCain's speech, basically showing total support for Israel, let's see if Obama can make the same kinds of statements, and be believable. I doubt he will. He'll probably go for the "nuanced" support that Kerry gave, which was a lot of double talk that the media loves so much.

Can't wait.

Count how many times he uses the word "ironclad", as in his "support" for Israel.

932 savage_nation[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 8:01:14am
933 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 8:01:25am

re: #929 Golem Akbar

Right. Either he pisses off his base by saying he supports Israel, or he pisses off the AIPAC people by being nuanced (a la Kerry). Either way, the fork in the road approacheth.

But he is the Obamasiah. Like his tongue, can't he take both forks?

934 republic  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 8:01:59am

re: #887 jcm

Chicago Sun Times.

Obama: I have a deep faith
Barack Obama credits his multicultural upbringing for his theological point of view.

April 5, 2004

Anyone else think Phlemger's Wrant in Wrights church was planned so BHO could pitch TUCC under the bus because of what the whitely priest said?

And this guy is on the brink of the (D) nomination?
*sheesh*

There is a large scale, very powerful deception traversing this country and the world. These things evidently have to continue the way they are, because there is too much deception, in too many situations for the non-deceived to effectively do anything about it.

I've been prepared for quite some time, I don't fear, it's the way it is meant to be going.

Nowhere does it say it is going to be easy to witness or go through.

Keep the Faith jcm.

935 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 8:02:05am

Duke University Medical Center, June 3 2008

Doctors announced that the surgery on Sentator Kennedy was successful. They also found and removed a growth that could have affected the Senator's thought processes for many years.

The surgery was so successful that Senator Kennedy made a statement:
“I would like to thank the doctors who so skillfully removed the cancerous growth.
It feels like my mind is working properly for the first time in my life. I realize that my entire career in politics was dedicated to erroneous principles.
Smaller government is better government, I now understand
.
I will dedicate the remainder of my career in public service towards correcting the damage I have done in the past.

I also realize that Senator Clinton would be bad for the country as President, but that Obama would be an unmitigated disaster.
Therefore, I now heartily endorse Senator McCain for President. He is by far the best choice we have in these dangerous times.
I am also changing my allegiance and becoming a Republican.

At this point, family members took away the microphone, and said that the Senator needed rest. “Lots of rest.”

/well, it could happen. When very large pigs fly

/Charles, I hope I don't get banned for this

936 UFO TOFU  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 8:02:10am

re: #921 razorbacker
Nice! I'm refinishing an old tea cart. Had to purchase bulk o-ring material to replace the rubber in the wheels. I love that old stuff.

937 Karridine  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 8:02:30am

re: #924 Sizzlack

Yo! That's pretty good! Thank you!

/and, you DID leave a comment, din't you? a link to the poster?
Greatly appreciated, Sizz!

938 jcm  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 8:02:46am

re: #917 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Karradine...how's things with Burma (you're kind of on the front lines, at least compared to me).

There are around 2000 Christians who meet in Burma, mostly in and around the Capitol, associated with my church. Our parent ministry can get funds directly into Burma where it's needed.

939 funky chicken  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 8:02:50am

re: #881 Occasional Reader

So you think we should have no taxes, on anything, ever? Wonderful. How do we pay for government, again?

The gas tax is not only a flat tax rate, it's a flat tax, PERIOD - 18 cents a gallon, no matter what the price of gas is. That money really DOES go into a "lock box" to pay for maintenance of the interstate highway system and other infrastructure. And make no mistake, that infrastructure is already is so-so condition; cutting off new funding for 3 months would only make it worse. This is like eating our seed corn, and for what - 18 cents a gallon?


Dude, are you kidding? Um, if they really have put that money in a "lock box" for the last few years, and, er, looking at the porkapaloozas that pass as "transportation bills" the last few years, there is more than enough money to pay for the roads this summer gas tax holiday or no gas tax holiday.

But, if you want to make the conservative cut taxes and cut government platform attractive to people, you will have to demonstrate the "cut taxes" part to people in very concrete ways. A 3 month gas tax holiday would be very concrete and very effective as in instructional tool. Sadly, income tax reductions just don't work all that well because a fair number of folks don't pay federal income taxes any more, and because the tax is just withheld from checks ... way too many people don't notice it. Sad but true.

Boortz is always saying that if people had to write a monthly or quarterly check for their income taxes, tax cuts and politicians who supported them would be much more popular. I agree.

And any time I find myself agreeing with JMV on policy proposals, I usually step back and assess ...

940 razorbacker  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 8:02:57am

re: #925 Golem Akbar

That's going to be interesting. After McCain's speech, basically showing total support for Israel, let's see if Obama can make the same kinds of statements, and be believable. I doubt he will. He'll probably go for the "nuanced" support that Kerry gave, which was a lot of double talk that the media loves so much.

Can't wait.

I read something a while back (maybe it was here) that said while Jews in America were less than 3% of the population, they contributed 50% of the money given to Democrat candidates.

Frankly, those numbers seem so far out of whack that I have difficulty believeing them.

941 Widow'smight  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 8:03:00am

re: #912 Occasional Reader

"Is it Safe"

Sir Lawrence Olivier

942 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 8:03:22am

OT: Anyone see that awful pic of a drunk plowing into a group of cyclists? I hope they give the fucker the chair. Fox news

943 Sizzlack  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 8:03:56am

re: #942 Creeping Eruption

OT: Anyone see that awful pic of a drunk plowing into a group of cyclists? I hope they give the fucker the chair. Fox news

Awful picture

944 Ojoe  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 8:03:56am

re: #921 razorbacker

Even the Romans made screws, by filing them by hand from a chunk of metal.

945 Golem Akbar  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 8:04:05am

re: #933 Creeping Eruption

But he is the Obamasiah. Like his tongue, can't he take both forks?

Wasn't it Yogi Berra who said "When you come to the fork in road, take it."?

946 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 8:04:57am

re: #929 Golem Akbar

Right. Either he pisses off his base by saying he supports Israel, or he pisses off the AIPAC people by being nuanced (a la Kerry). Either way, the fork in the road approacheth.

A third, more cynically-minded possibility; he says the right things to AIPAC, and his base understands that it's just to get votes, that he'll throw the Jews to the wolves once in office.

947 loppyd  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 8:05:08am

re: #942 Creeping Eruption

OT: Anyone see that awful pic of a drunk plowing into a group of cyclists? I hope they give the fucker the chair. Fox news

No Death Penalty in Mexico.

948 jcm  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 8:05:32am

re: #934 republic

There is a large scale, very powerful deception traversing this country and the world. These things evidently have to continue the way they are, because there is too much deception, in too many situations for the non-deceived to effectively do anything about it.

I've been prepared for quite some time, I don't fear, it's the way it is meant to be going.

Nowhere does it say it is going to be easy to witness or go through.

Keep the Faith jcm.

I keep the faith. Regardless of the outward situation, as a believer I must do the RIGHT thing. Never give in, never give up. God will take care of his end.

949 MandyManners  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 8:06:01am

re: #915 loppyd

Good Morning Lizard Nation!

I see there are already posts about Beckel on F&F this morning....

More at Gateway Pundit

If it's for real, that is explosive!

950 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 8:06:16am

re: #947 loppyd

Maybe he'll "trip" on his way to his cell one day and break his neck.