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Breaking: Obama Clinches Nomination

Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 2:00:36 pm PDT

Fox News is reporting that Barack Obama has amassed enough delegates to win the Democratic nomination...

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1 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:01:01pm

Crap.

2 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:01:28pm

Consolation prize; he should be easier to beat.

3 red satellite  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:01:30pm

God help us.

4 mama winger  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:01:33pm

God help us all.

5 Alouette  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:02:05pm

I'm sure Hillary still has a trick or two up her sleeve. It ain't over till it's over.

6 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:02:11pm

Hang on: the nomination is not the election.

7 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:02:12pm
8 HelloDare  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:02:17pm

Release the scandal hounds!

9 David IV of Georgia  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:02:42pm

This simplifies things for me.
No ambiguity now.
McCain 2008.

10 MJ  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:02:43pm

Someone should wake up John McCain and tell him.

11 HelloDare  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:02:45pm

Michelle must be so proud.

12 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:02:55pm

It was like waiting for a hurricane, you knew it was coming and it finally made landfall.

13 coquimbojoe  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:03:13pm

re: #3 red satellite

God help us.

re: #4 mama winger

God help us all.

re: #1 Occasional Reader

Crap.

My immediate thoughts too. Light a candle, say a prayer, whatever it is you do....

14 addison  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:03:22pm

I'm bitter.

15 redstateredneck  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:03:36pm

It's on.
C'mon McCain, open up a can of whoop-ass on him.

16 mama winger  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:03:54pm

I really love my country. I mean - I really really love my country. America is the shining city on a hill. Please God, do not allow us to put out our own light.

17 Fat Jolly Penguin  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:03:58pm

Damn it.

I hope Hillary keeps pounding the superdelegate issue. I don't want this to end now; it sounds weird, but as long as this contest has gone on, I don't think it's gone long enough yet. So many juicy stories to reveal...

18 hermeneutics  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:04:10pm

Hey, he's the weaker candidate! We should be rejoicing for when McCain wins -- which is more certain now -- Israel and the United States will be protected from radical Islam.

19 Peacekeeper  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:04:12pm

Once, twice, three times a lady.

20 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:04:22pm
21 Venezuela lover  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:04:24pm

Stop the convention. Its not needed. If Fox News says it, it must be true.

Its also official that the democrats cannot field a decent candidate.

22 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:04:27pm

So, when does the Clinton team show up at the McCains'?

23 jemima  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:04:56pm

Pardon me if I don't cheer. To simple minds this looks like a huge step forward. Upon thoughtful analysis this is a massive lurch backward.

24 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:05:05pm
25 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:05:06pm

Visualize a humiliating McCain 40+ State sweep.

26 hermeneutics  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:05:21pm

re: #22 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Chubby, they don't have to show up, they just have to fax us their opp. research.

27 HelloDare  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:05:22pm

This is going to cut into Bills philandering, what with Hillary being home and all. Maybe not.

28 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:05:30pm

"It's not over till the lady in the pantsuit says it is."

29 father_of_10  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:05:39pm

So, do you all think that Clinton loathes Obama to the point that she will help McCain crush, humiliate and defeat him into history? To make him a pariah of politics?

30 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:05:51pm

re: #27 HelloDare

This is going to cut into Bills philandering, what with Hillary being home and all. Maybe not.

They'll still have Congress.

31 redstateredneck  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:05:51pm
32 HelloDare  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:05:57pm

They found somebody worse than Kerry. Amazing.

33 mama winger  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:06:00pm

re: #29 father_of_10

So, do you all think that Clinton loathes Obama to the point that she will help McCain crush, humiliate and defeat him into history? To make him a pariah of politics?

Lord, I hope so.

34 hermeneutics  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:06:03pm

re: #29 father_of_10

NO.

35 Peacekeeper  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:06:08pm

He doesn't want Hillary but he does want to win, so he needs her.

36 jcm  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:06:23pm

N☭bama.

37 hermeneutics  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:06:39pm

The worst case scenario is Obama choosing Clinton for his veep. Pray it doesn't happen.

38 Fat Jolly Penguin  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:06:50pm

re: #28 Honorary Yooper

"It's not over till the lady in the pantsuit says it is sings."

My ears, my ears...

39 MJ  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:07:01pm

They're celebrating in Tehran tonight.

40 the_flying_pig  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:07:05pm

Danger, Will Robinson, danger!

41 Athos  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:07:28pm

re: #32 HelloDare

They found somebody worse than Kerry. Amazing.

The Democrats just have to continue to negatively outperform. They intend to do the same in fighting the war and in the economy.

42 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:07:30pm

BIG OBAMA ATE MY BABY DINGO!

/President Obama equals Dow 7000

43 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:07:30pm

re: #39 MJ

They're celebrating in Tehran tonight.

Definately a passout candy in the streets moment for them.

44 Sizzlack  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:07:53pm

Time to build me a Panic Room.

45 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:07:55pm
46 jaunte  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:07:58pm

Hip, Hip, Hamas.

47 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:08:02pm

re: #42 Killian Bundy

BIG OBAMA ATE MY BABY DINGO!

/President Obama equals Dow 70.00

You forgot the decimal point

48 father_of_10  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:08:34pm

re: #37 hermeneutics

The worst case scenario is Obama choosing Clinton for his veep. Pray it doesn't happen.

I think they will implode if that happens. She is not going to like taking orders from him and he will have to have a full-time food-taster and extra body guards. I think that might make for a very uneasy coalition and possibly a very short term for the Obamamamamama guy.

49 HelloDare  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:08:38pm

He's got the nomination. Now the real Obama can come out. Waffle breakfast at Trinity United Church of Christ next Sunday after services.

50 hermeneutics  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:08:40pm

re: #45 buzzsawmonkey

An OH ticket radically changes the choices available to McCain.

51 jaunte  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:08:42pm

And that #46 has a giant invisible /sarc tag on it, if you're at all uncertain...

52 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:08:47pm
53 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:09:00pm

re: #44 Sizzlack

Time to build me a Panic Room.

Guns, ammo, stay mobile, they can dig you out of a panic room, make em work to get you.

54 mama winger  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:09:01pm

Speaking of Obama, my dog has to poop. bbl

55 notreallyme  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:09:08pm

re: #18 hermeneutics

re: #18 hermeneutics

Hey, he's the weaker candidate! We should be rejoicing for when McCain wins -- which is more certain now -- Israel and the United States will be protected from radical Islam.

Will they? If McCain follows Rice's stated policy of "give the Palestinians a state no matter what", Israel will be up a creek. She should have never opened her mouth to AIPAC.

The way I see it, either McCain (or Bush) has to distance themselves from Rice, or Hillary just has a chance for the "jewish vote".

56 hermeneutics  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:09:37pm

re: #49 HelloDare

The real Obama will keep his racialism and immaturity in hiding. He's a great actor.

57 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:09:45pm
58 father_of_10  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:09:49pm

re: #54 mama winger

Speaking of Obama, my dog has to poop. bbl

D*mn. I stepped in some obama!

59 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:09:58pm

Folks, it's on.

60 redstateredneck  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:10:01pm

re: #49 HelloDare

He's got the nomination. Now the real Obama can come out. Waffle breakfast at Trinity United Church of Christ next Sunday after services.


Special Guest Speaker: Father Phleger

61 snowcrash  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:10:09pm

Somewhere Susan Sarandon is smiling. Yuck

62 jamgarr  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:10:15pm

It's beginning to look like the Dems are really going to misundernominate this year.

63 Peacekeeper  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:10:16pm

re: #45 buzzsawmonkey

The Democrats HAVE to force those two together to save the election.

64 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:10:18pm
65 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:10:28pm

re: #52 song_and_dance_man

Ayers, Revved Wright, Pfleger, Farrakhan, Achmadinijad and a whole host of other racist nuts are celebrating at this very moment.

Actually, they're probably worried right now. If Obama wins, how can they (as well as Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, et al) keep their "victimhood" con game alive?

66 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:10:50pm

re: #57 Killgore Trout

Lawmakers: Clinton says she's open to VP
Fat chance.

Back to the Senate with you!

/and hopefully bho, too, after nov. 4th

67 hermeneutics  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:10:53pm

re: #55 notreallyme

Rice is out. McCain will have to distance himself because he'll want to WIN. He's no dummy -- his legacy will be ending the wars with honor, peace and strength.

Obama would simply run away.

68 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:11:15pm
69 jcm  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:11:30pm

But will HRC go gently?

70 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:11:34pm
71 Peacekeeper  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:11:34pm

You can forget about McCain : the media will savage him as soon as the dust settles. Obama is their anointed one.

72 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:11:41pm

re: #64 buzzsawmonkey

Shouldn't that be "Dhow?" President Obama wants us to be friendly with the Muslim world.

Or da'wa?

/feeding us islamist bs

73 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:11:46pm

re: #68 song_and_dance_man

The whole world still needs to be conquered.

Those con artists only care about linking the USA

74 father_of_10  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:11:54pm

re: #65 sattv4u2

Actually, they're probably worried right now. If Obama wins, how can they (as well as Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, et al) keep their "victimhood" con game alive?

Easy, everytime he proposes something and doesn't get it, then it's victim-time again. Anyone that opposes anything he promotes is a racist. He has automatic and continual built-in victim-hood.

75 hermeneutics  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:12:04pm

re: #71 Peacekeeper

We are the new media. We need to get busy.

76 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:12:15pm
77 HelloDare  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:12:18pm

Dow, d'oh!

78 BIGDUKE 6  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:12:29pm

I wonder- when will he start calling himself Barry again ?
This is gonna be great ! Michelle Obama will be exposed for the Bigot that she is.

79 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:12:32pm

re: #59 Ward Cleaver

Folks, it's on.

Yup, the enemy has cross FEBA, approaching max effective range.

80 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:12:33pm

re: #73 sattv4u2

Those con artists only care about linking MILKING the USA


PIMF

81 wrenchwench  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:12:42pm

I voted for John McCain today. The other option was Ron Paul. November will be even easier.

/New Mexico. Yes, we had a primary today.

82 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:12:55pm

re: #71 Peacekeeper

You can forget about McCain : the media will savage him as soon as the dust settles. Obama is their anointed one.

The media savaged Bush in 2004 and 2000. Fortunately, they don't get to simply pick the President. Not yet, anyway.

83 David IV of Georgia  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:12:55pm

re: #37 hermeneutics

The worst case scenario is Obama choosing Clinton for his veep. Pray it doesn't happen.

Michelle wouldn't let him pair up with a white woman. He'd have to throw one of them under the bus.

84 Fat Jolly Penguin  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:12:56pm

re: #69 jcm

But will HRC go gently?

NEVAH!

85 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:13:20pm

Cardinal removes Pfleger from St. Sabina parish

The firebrand pastor of St. Sabina parish was removed from his duties there Tuesday, according to a statement released by the Archdiocese of Chicago.

In the statement, Cardinal Francis George says he asked the Rev. Michael Pfleger, 59, to "take leave for a couple of weeks from his pastoral duties." The statement said Pfleger "does not believe this to be the right step at this time." "While respecting his disagreement, I have nevertheless asked him to use this opportunity to reflect on his recent statements and actions in the light of the Church's regulations for all Catholic priests," George said.

86 Athos  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:13:41pm

re: #61 snowcrash

Somewhere Susan Sarandon is smiling getting moving quotes and checking out the Canadian and Italian consulates for immigration paperwork.

This is probably more likely.......

87 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:13:45pm

re: #83 David IV of Georgia

Michelle wouldn't let him pair up with a white woman. He'd have to throw one of them under the bus.

Seeing that Michelle is the bus DRIVER,,, YOU do the math!

88 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:13:52pm

re: #27 HelloDare

This is going to cut into Bills philandering, what with Hillary being home and all. Maybe not.

She just goes back the Senate (there's four years left on her term), so it'll be party time for Bill.

89 notreallyme  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:13:52pm

re: #67 hermeneutics

Rice is out. McCain will have to distance himself because he'll want to WIN. He's no dummy -- his legacy will be ending the wars with honor, peace and strength.

I sure hope so. She really pulled a "career limiting move". :-)

90 Sizzlack  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:14:00pm

Obama winning the nomination is just more proof that moonbats vote and make their decisions based on emotions rather than facts. I do not understand how anyone could be such a supporter of Obama when no one knows his positions on anything. Its like rolling the dice and hoping you dont crap out.

91 Peacekeeper  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:14:10pm

Can't wait for the first Supreme Court pick from Barrack. I'm betting on radical black feminist.

92 EC Marm  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:14:22pm

"May you live in interesting times." It's no wonder it's considered an ancient curse.

93 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:14:26pm

re: #77 HelloDare

Dow, d'oh!


Sell now. Under the Obama regime you won't be able to afford making money.

94 tokyobk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:14:35pm

Obama will be running as a regular guy with a tan from now on anyway. A mildly ethnic American the way Jackson was Scotch Irish and Kennedy was Catholic.

95 hermeneutics  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:14:59pm

re: #89 notreallyme

I think she got into the thick of things and simply lost track. I don't think she's evil or even stupid -- but she's horribly wrong.

96 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:14:59pm

re: #88 Ward Cleaver

She just goes back the Senate (there's four years left on her term), so it'll be party time STALKING WOMEN AS USUAL for Bill.

fixed

97 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:15:14pm

So is Hill gonna start drinking again?

98 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:15:18pm

re: #91 Peacekeeper

Can't wait for the first Supreme Court pick from Barrack. I'm betting on radical black feminist.

Cynthia McKinney !

99 experiencedtraveller  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:15:38pm

Keep your powder dry McCain! Many Americans don't even think about elections until Labor Day.

100 'Nam Grunt  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:15:40pm

re: #61 snowcrash

I certainly hope she uses her fly miles and takes a plane load with her to Canada, Italy doesn't want the harridan!

101 Atweber  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:15:52pm

osama bin borax the best the demoncats have to offer--what happened to the party of truman?

102 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:16:01pm
103 onslow  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:16:01pm
104 Fat Jolly Penguin  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:16:03pm

re: #84 Fat Jolly Penguin

NEVAH!

Found the video I was looking for!

105 tokyobk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:16:24pm

There will also be a big, big bus undering for serious leftists. Obama is going white and going center...

106 maximoso  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:16:37pm

Grab your wallets and get ready for a bumpy ride.

As inept as McCain is - We could have to endure Jimmy Carter again in hopes of finding another Reagan to emerge.

Lord Help us - with the possibility of having a President who holds disdain for this country.

107 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:16:39pm

re: #91 Peacekeeper

Can't wait for the first Supreme Court pick from Barrack. I'm betting on radical black feminist.

Maxine Waters or Cynthia McKinney.

108 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:17:01pm
109 notreallyme  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:17:10pm

re: #95 hermeneutics

I think she got into the thick of things and simply lost track. I don't think she's evil or even stupid -- but she's horribly wrong.

But now it's policy. Bush has to accept it, or deny it. If McCain wants he "jewish vote", he'll have to distance himself from it.

110 BIGDUKE 6  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:17:11pm

re: #71 Peacekeeper

You can forget about McCain : the media will savage him as soon as the dust settles. Obama is their anointed one.

The MSM can try but I think the Man's basic Decency will shine through.
His speech to AIPAC was a classic.
Besides there are more skeletons in Barak's closet than on a Cambodian killing field.

111 Adrenalyn  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:17:12pm

he has already won the election of most racist candidate ever to run as the lead for a major party with his association with Louis Farrakhan, Jeremiah Wright and the entire Trinity Church

then again, Jimmy Carter was the previous holder of that title
with his association with Lester Maddox and JB Stoner

112 Peacekeeper  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:17:16pm

Remember: If you don't support Obama you're a racist! Have a nice day comrades!

113 Sizzlack  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:17:25pm

re: #107 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Cynthia McKinney.

Wow I think I barfed in my mouth a little on that one...

114 EC Marm  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:17:37pm

re: #85 Killgore Trout
LARGE PRINT
"Removed"
Small print
"for a couple of weeks"

I personally think he should be permanent clean up crew in the local homeless shelter soup kitchen for the rest of his term.

115 jcm  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:18:03pm

re: #84 Fat Jolly Penguin

NEVAH!

Zactly!

I don't see her conceding.

116 'Nam Grunt[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:18:08pm
117 BIGDUKE 6  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:18:29pm

re: #86 Athos

This is probably more likely.......

GOOD RIDDANCE TO BAD RUBBISH !

118 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:18:43pm

Theres gonna be a new portrait up at the Blue Note Club, right beside Gov. Dukakis.
(Naked Gun 2 1/2: The Smell of Fear)

119 tokyobk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:18:54pm

re: #110 BIGDUKE 6

The MSM can try but I think the Man's basic Decency will shine through.
His speech to AIPAC was a classic.
Besides there are more skeletons in Barak's closet than on a Cambodian killing field.

Unfortunately in a political campaign nothing shines through that the candidates don`t initiate. I will be a broken record until November. McCain cannot beat Obama by simply being the most decent guy in the room. He has to take the fight to Obama.

120 theheat  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:18:58pm

As icky as it is, I don't think the Obama/Hillary ticket can be beaten by McCain, particularly if McCain chooses a Fundie VP running mate (the kiss od death). It will just play into Obama's "change" hands - no more old white guys, yadda yadda, change, yadda yadda, change... Never mind Obama had his own crazy Fundie, he's going to play up how the nation is tired of same ole same ole, and Hillary at his side will somehow seem more... conservative.

I never thought I'd see the day where I had rooted so hard for Hillary to beat someone. Geez, I'd rather see a McCain/Hillary ticket. Now, that, I could get behind. Compared to this, I'd be rejoicing.

To say this sucks is an understatement.

121 calcajun  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:19:07pm

Okay, maybe this is the paranoid me talking (people are out to get me--really) but this news, coupled with the word from the Clinton cam that she'd be thrilled to be his VP (yeah, like Michelle O would go for that) conjures visions of the Manchurian Candidate. She takes the slot and then plots to have him assassinated.

Seriously, there is no way on Earth he would have her after all they have been through. Besides, he would need to sleep with one eye open and have to send food tasters to the Naval Observatory whenever he would dine with Lady Macbeth, er... his VP.

122 MES41067  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:19:19pm

Sniff Sniff awe shit we were having big fun weren't we.

123 jcm  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:19:24pm

re: #85 Killgore Trout

Cardinal removes Pfleger from St. Sabina parish

They noticed the red headed child!
Hide him!

124 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:19:38pm

re: #25 Occasional Reader

Visualize a humiliating McCain 40+ State sweep.

He could even win some of the blue states, especially if the Hispanics come out for McCain.

I'm thinking that McCain could even win in Massachusetts, especially if he gets support of some of the normally Democratic working-class voters.
I'd give Obama Boston, Cambridge, Somerville, and maybe Springfield. McCain could conceivably win Boston with support of Hispanics and those in South Boston.
A lot depends on how many more people Obama throws under the bus and what revelations come out about him.
McCain might be centrist enough to get votes that would never otherwise go for a Republican. Hmm - we elected several Republican governors; the last time, the Republicans lost because they were running a loser. But then. the Democrat who won reminds me of Obama, but without all the racist baggage.

We'll see. Hillary had a real chance to win the election.

125 autoexec  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:19:42pm

And so it begins.

I can almost feel the Endtimes draw near.

126 hermeneutics  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:20:04pm

re: #103 onslow

DOn't worry about that map, Onslow. They have a good record of prediction, but its based on lagging indicators -- old polls. Most analysts, even the Dems, see a rosy picture for McCain.

I have my own wee set of stats, and I believe McCain is up in the electoral college by at least 30 votes. And that's my worst case scenario.

127 HelloDare  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:20:53pm

re: #123 jcm

They noticed the red headed child!
Hide him!

Quick, remove him before we lose our tax-exempt status.

128 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:21:12pm

'Nam, what did you do?

/#116

129 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:21:26pm

re: #91 Peacekeeper

Can't wait for the first Supreme Court pick from Barrack. I'm betting on radical black feminist.

Or Al Sharpton

130 republic  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:22:13pm

re: #91 Peacekeeper

Can't wait for the first Supreme Court pick from Barrack. I'm betting on radical black feminist.

Cynthia McKinney?

Go ahead America, don't vote to "teach those Republicans lesson"!

131 Intrepid  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:22:16pm

If Obama does not choose Clinton for the Veep slot, then he'll have to make massive moves toward the center in his policy speeches. But he's already made such outrageous statements that he'll only look like more of a flip-flopper than John Kerry ever dreamed of being.

And honestly, Obama has already peaked. McCain has yet to get started.

So it's time, John Sydney McCain, to step up to the plate and start hitting more than singles.

132 EC Marm  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:22:22pm

Maxine Waters switches allegiance to Barack Obama.

133 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:22:26pm

re: #129 Kosh's Shadow

Or Al Sharpton

Sharpton wouldn't take it. He'd consider it a step backwards to his current status !

134 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:22:58pm

re: #125 autoexec

And so it begins.

I can almost feel the Endtimes draw near.

You mean because the Mahdi is that much closer to ruling the free world new Caliphate?

135 tokyobk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:23:12pm

re: #124 Kosh's Shadow

We'll see. Hillary had a real chance to win the election.

Kosh my friend, this is dangerous wishful thinking, that McCain will sweep things or that some revalation will implode Obama.

136 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:23:13pm
137 Adrenalyn  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:23:16pm

be interesting to see what the stock market does tomorrow in anticipation of November

place your bets
who bets it goes up
anticipating a McCain landslide

138 maximoso  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:23:18pm

re: #121 calcajun

Seriously, there is no way on Earth he would have her after all they have been through. Besides, he would need to sleep with one eye open and have to send food tasters to the Naval Observatory whenever he would dine with Lady Macbeth, er... his VP.

I think Hillary would have to test her food and drink for her. Michelle Obama would be after the Clintons as much as Hillary would want Obama's prize seat. After All - Hillary is a " rich white person " - and you can't trust dem ya know!

After 4 years with that whitehouse - we could get rid of the Clintons and the Obamas in one clean sweep. America would have enough liberalism from that administration to fuel 2 decades of conservativism.

139 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:23:34pm

re: #83 David IV of Georgia

Michelle wouldn't let him pair up with a white woman. He'd have to throw one of them under the bus.

He'd throw Michelle under the bus to get into the White House.

140 Peacekeeper  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:23:44pm

It's simple political necessity. They have to join up or they split their base. Hillary ain't got any other job prospects or any self respect either. It's not like being junior senator to Chuck Schumer is her ambition in life.

141 TrollBot PrtoType Six  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:24:09pm

What Fox and the AP say doesn't mean a damn thing. It all comes down to Denver and The Hilldabeast will be there to rip Obama a new one.
This is a long way from being over.
Get some more popcorn and relax, the real fun is just beginning.

142 jaydee  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:24:39pm

I feel utterly and thoroughly p*ssed off.

143 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:24:39pm

re: #132 EC Marm

Maxine Waters switches allegiance to Barack Obama.

Wouldn't it be wild if the Dems found a primary opponent for Hill in her 2010 Senate race?

144 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:24:56pm

re: #137 Adrenalyn

be interesting to see what the stock market does tomorrow in anticipation of November

place your bets
who bets it goes up
anticipating a McCain landslide

While I would like to see it go up, I don't think it's headed that way. If I were you, with Obama's leanings towards Kyoto and the green nutjobs, I'd start investing in solar/alternative energy companies. I think they stand to win big with him in office.

145 hermeneutics  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:24:58pm

Lizards in toss-up states need to be particularly active.

In the west, this means NM, CO and NV.

In the midwest, this means any state around Lake Michigan, and, of course, Ohio.

I'm writing off New England, but lizards in VA and NC have their work cut out.

To sum, if you are from the following states you need to get off your arse and help McCain now: NV, CO, NM, WI, MI, MN, IA, MO, IN, OH, VA AND NC.

146 Kailen  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:25:08pm

The polls have not closed. Did 2004 teach people nothing?

147 really grumpy big dog johnson  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:25:16pm

re: #91 Peacekeeper

Can't wait for the first Supreme Court pick from Barrack. I'm betting on radical black feminist.

You mean Michelle?

148 tokyobk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:25:18pm

re: #139 Ward Cleaver

He'd throw Michelle under the bus to get into the White House.

Yes and in a way he will as he moves white and moves right. She will be getting her first clues at how strategic her husband is just about now as she realizes that his "black" ticket has been punched and the only way she can help him now is to politely STFU.

149 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:25:31pm

re: #141 TrollBot PrtoType Six

What Fox and the AP say doesn't mean a damn thing. It all comes down to Denver and The Hilldabeast will be there to rip Obama a new one.
This is a long way from being over.
Get some more popcorn and relax, the real fun is just beginning.

The real fun's gonna be in Denver.

/the whole world is watching, the whole world is watching, the whole world is watching...

150 CapeCoddah  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:25:41pm

Well, this is terrifying! Everyone should stock up on antacids...4 1/2 year supply, im thinking. We should also probably all consider pulling all funds out of banks and investments, and stuffing the mattress.
Oboy will come looking for all of it if, by some chance, there turn out to be a majority of idiots voting at this time...

151 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:25:42pm

Lefty is already working on picking Obama's Cabinet.

/not for the faint of heart

152 Cognito  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:25:50pm

Well. I guess the game really is afoot, now.

153 hydrocarbon hank  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:25:53pm

Obama can't win...unless McCain has a total melt-down...Obama can not win this election....I'll put money on it.

154 Peacekeeper  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:26:02pm

Obama in 08 and 12. Michelle Obama in 16 and 20. Gah. I scared myself!

155 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:26:03pm

It's still a long way to Denver, folks. Heck, with this race, it's a long journey to Thursday.

Sit back, relax, enjoy the festivities.

156 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:26:05pm

re: #145 hermeneutics

Lizards in toss-up states need to be particularly active.

Does DC count?

/kidding

157 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:26:45pm

re: #124 Kosh's Shadow
There is NO way McCain could take Boston, let alone Massachusetts. No matter the outcome of Kennedys surgery and recovery, the sympathy vote for him goes to Obama. Boston doesn't have as large of an Hispanic community as is does black (not only Roxbury, but most of Dorchester, Mattapan and Roslindale)

CAMBRIDGE? You HAVE to be joking. If McCain gets more than 35% there, that alone would be a "win"

158 tfc3rid  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:26:48pm

This is the EV projection I have....

Projected Electoral Votes
Barack Obama: 293
John McCain: 245

159 snowcrash  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:26:50pm

Avatars are now in the comment spy.

160 Adrenalyn  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:26:58pm

re: #138 maximoso

I think Hillary would have to test her food and drink for her. Michelle Obama would be after the Clintons as much as Hillary would want Obama's prize seat. After All - Hillary is a " rich white person " - and you can't trust dem ya know!

After 4 years with that whitehouse - we could get rid of the Clintons and the Obamas in one clean sweep. America would have enough liberalism from that administration to fuel 2 decades of conservativism.

I politely disagree
if Obama got into the White House
those doubters in my calling them "nazicrats" instead of "democrats" would finally see them turn 100% totalitarian
maybe not see the death camps
but you'd never see another republican majority again
and not in the White House again
they'd for all intents and purposes outlaw the GOP
thru campaign "reform" where no money can be raised
and the biased media will help them consolidate their power
see the Reuters link on zombietime.com
if you don't think the media and the nazi's collaborate

161 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:27:24pm

re: #150 CapeCoddah

You don't think Obama won't have a Mattress Brigade?

162 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:27:26pm

re: #150 CapeCoddah

Well, this is terrifying! Everyone should stock up on antacids...4 1/2 year supply, im thinking. We should also probably all consider pulling all funds out of banks and investments, and stuffing the mattress.
Oboy will come looking for all of it if, by some chance, there turn out to be a majority of idiots voting at this time...

Oh, don't give up yet! Hell, there's five months to go. A lot can happen in five months.

163 tokyobk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:27:42pm

re: #153 hydrocarbon hank

Obama can't win...unless McCain has a total melt-down...Obama can not win this election....I'll put money on it.


How much and in what currency? Thing is, I want McCain to win. But your thinking is dangerous, dangerous, dangerous. Obama is not to be underestimated and neither is the power of what he evokes as a black man running for president on a major ticket.

164 'Nam Grunt  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:27:47pm

re: #128 Ward Cleaver

Guess I pissed off Charles, LOLOLOL!

165 hermeneutics  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:27:47pm

re: #153 hydrocarbon hank

I'll bet money too. Unless Mccain implodes, which he won't, we've got this thing in the bag.

166 Fat Jolly Penguin  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:27:56pm

re: #159 snowcrash

I noticed that. 'Tis mightily cool.

167 onslow  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:27:58pm

re: #126 hermeneutics

I hope you're right.

It will be interesting to see how much RCP's map changes between now and November.

168 Consumer  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:27:58pm

Black Tuesday

169 hermeneutics  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:28:24pm

re: #158 tfc3rid

What the heck?

You have got to be dreaming.

170 CapeCoddah  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:28:39pm

I wonder what the "typical White House" will be renamed. Too politically incorrect, offensive to any non white. Can't have that..

171 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:28:47pm

re: #154 Peacekeeper

Obama in 08 and 12. Michelle Obama in 16 and 20. Gah. I scared myself!

Stop with that pessmistic nonsense. Cheer up! The world ends in 2012. (The Mayans said so.)

172 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:28:57pm

re: #164 'Nam Grunt

Guess I pissed off Charles, LOLOLOL!

Better watch it there. How you doin', 'Nam?

173 TN_Vol  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:29:10pm

I guess it was inevitable. Too bad the DNC rules committee decided Floridians and Michiganders were only worth 1/2 a vote instead of say 2/3.

174 tokyobk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:29:28pm

re: #165 hermeneutics

I'll bet money too. Unless Mccain implodes, which he won't, we've got this thing in the bag.


Argh. You guys are scaring me. No we do not have this in the bag.

175 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:29:32pm
I'm writing off New England, but lizards in VA and NC have their work cut out.

Yesterday's Rasmussen had Obama up only 3 in CT. If that's close, then NH is competitive. Forget ME, RI, and MA.

Early balloting is in from VT and Obama won 99-1%.

176 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:29:39pm
177 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:29:39pm

re: #173 TN_Vol

I guess it was inevitable. Too bad the DNC rules committee decided Floridians and Michiganders were only worth 1/2 a vote instead of say 2/3.

ouch ! THATS gonna leave a mark !

178 Peacekeeper  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:29:40pm

re: #171 Occasional Reader

Stop with that pessmistic nonsense. Cheer up! The world ends in 2012. (The Mayans said so.)

Hold the mayo(a)

179 David IV of Georgia  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:30:00pm

re: #85 Killgore Trout

Cardinal removes Pfleger from St. Sabina parish

In my church he would have been removed long ago.

Happy Leavetaking of Pascha & Feast of Ascencion.

180 tfc3rid  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:30:11pm

re: #169 hermeneutics

What the heck?

You have got to be dreaming.

At the pollling I've been looking at, that's where things are...

It's a long way till November, but don't, for one second, think that this is going to be easy...

181 EC Marm  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:30:16pm

re: #162 Ward Cleaver

Oh, don't give up yet! Hell, there's five months to go. A lot can happen in five months.


Not only that, but the polls right after the Dem convention will have Obama and running mate winning with a 50 state landslide. At one point Reagan was down in the polls by about 12 points against Jhimma Carter. By election day it was flipped the opposite.

182 'Nam Grunt  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:30:27pm

re: #172 Ward Cleaver

Doing good Ward, I love it out here in the country quiet and peaceful and no moonbats. LOL

183 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:30:35pm

re: #174 tokyobk

I agree, it's going to be very close.

184 Ojoe  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:30:37pm

THe more I think about the Hillary VP rumor, the more I think: Fine. Let him take her down too.

185 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:30:42pm

re: #150 CapeCoddah

Well, this is terrifying! Everyone should stock up on antacids...4 1/2 year supply, im thinking. We should also probably all consider pulling all funds out of banks and investments, and stuffing the mattress.
Oboy will come looking for all of it if, by some chance, there turn out to be a majority of idiots voting at this time...

Stock up on guns and ammo, and hide in a cave.
Watch out for black guys in suits and bow ties. (Specifically for non-lizards, I mean the NOI, who will become somewhat respectable.)

Actually, I think this will be like 72, a landslide for McCain. Unless Soros buys Diebold and other electronic voting machine companies.

186 hermeneutics  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:30:50pm

My prediction .... he'll take 282.

187 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:30:57pm

re: #173 TN_Vol

I guess it was inevitable. Too bad the DNC rules committee decided Floridians and Michiganders were only worth 1/2 a vote instead of say 2/3.

I think that could still open up in Denver. The FL and MI Dems shot themselves in the foot, moving their primaries up. They only have themselves to blame.

188 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:31:00pm

re: #179 David IV of Georgia

In my church he would have been removed long ago.

Happy Leavetaking of Pascha & Feast of Ascencion.

in my church he would have been a lifesized reenactment of the Crucifixtion!

189 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:31:10pm
190 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:31:12pm

re: #158 tfc3rid

This is the EV projection I have....

Projected Electoral Votes
Barack Obama: 293
John McCain: 245

I'd be curious to see the projected numbers from June 2000 and 2004. I'd hedge Algore and Lerch had sizable leads.

191 jaydee  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:31:17pm

re: #23 jemima

Pardon me if I don't cheer. To simple minds this looks like a huge step forward. Upon thoughtful analysis this is a massive lurch backward.

agreed

192 CapeCoddah  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:31:26pm

re: #161 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Dammit, you are right. Plastic sugar containers buried in the back yard. Avoids metal detectors.

193 hermeneutics  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:31:42pm

re: #177 sattv4u2

Yes, Michigan is ours. Stupid Dems.

194 boiledwombat  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:31:55pm

We should never take a McCain victory for granted.

The fact that an unsuitable candidate like Obama could even get this far speaks volumes about a seriously deranged electorate. (Ouch! Hey that includes all of us too.)

Factor in the almost universal support that Obama has from the LLL media and his election is an all too close possibility.

We must keep up the efforts to persuade the undecided, and communicate a vision of moderate, principled leaders that we want to have elected.

195 Ojoe  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:32:03pm

re: #153 hydrocarbon hank

Mr. 57 states goddamn America cannot win, no he cannot.

196 father_of_10  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:32:08pm

re: #81 wrenchwench

I voted for John McCain today. The other option was Ron Paul. November will be even easier.

/New Mexico. Yes, we had a primary today.

I didn't bother to go. My wife came back all disappointed because Mitt wasn't on the ballot. She at least wanted to vote for him, if even totally moot.

A local businessman is the Ron Paulian Pooh Bah and he claims to be the Republican Chairman. He has a ponytail and is a troofer. What's with that? That doesn't sound like any Republican chairman I've heard!

197 Peacekeeper  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:32:09pm

Obama needs Hillary to win. Will he swallow hard and do it? My prediciton: yes.

198 jcm  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:32:17pm

There might be a chance for McCain in WA.

People are POed about the mismanagement of the State under the (D)s. Dino Rossi is a good candidate. If we can keep the election clean I'd rate WA as possible in the McCain column. It's got to happen just right, but could.

199 hydrocarbon hank  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:32:25pm

re: #163 tokyobk

How much and in what currency? Thing is, I want McCain to win. But your thinking is dangerous, dangerous, dangerous. Obama is not to be underestimated and neither is the power of what he evokes as a black man running for president on a major ticket.


I'll bet big money...the kind of money that shows up in my mailbox every month when oil is $130/bbl and gas is $12/mcf. He can't carry the voters who win elections.

200 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:32:35pm

My success in life is not contingent on who occupies the White House. Bring it on Barry, I made it through 8 years of Bill Clinton, I can do 8 years of you standing on my head!

201 tokyobk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:32:44pm

re: #183 Killgore Trout

I agree, it's going to be very close.

If McCain can go up against Obama like he is going up against Tiger Woods (this is a sport and Obama is a huge talent) and explain to the American people in very simple but forceful terms what is at stake in the world than he has a realistic shot.

Obama will play an A game all the way through.

202 Golem Akbar  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:32:55pm

Just heard on the radio: Jimmy Carter will announce his support for BHO tonight, right after the last primary.

Jimmy's support for Obama = kiss of death.

203 hermeneutics  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:33:12pm

re: #190 JammieWearingFool

Your hedge is right. Republicans vote predictably and always in greater numbers than expected. The center is shrinking.

Haven't you lied to a pollster? I have.

204 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:33:13pm

re: #182 'Nam Grunt

Doing good Ward, I love it out here in the country quiet and peaceful and no moonbats. LOL

Heard from June today. She had the third and final injection in her back, for back pain, and this one worked. Third time's a charm.

And, for a bonus, the doctor is an Israeli. I gotta meet that guy.

205 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:33:32pm

re: #157 sattv4u2

There is NO way McCain could take Boston, let alone Massachusetts. No matter the outcome of Kennedys surgery and recovery, the sympathy vote for him goes to Obama. Boston doesn't have as large of an Hispanic community as is does black (not only Roxbury, but most of Dorchester, Mattapan and Roslindale)

CAMBRIDGE? You HAVE to be joking. If McCain gets more than 35% there, that alone would be a "win"

I might have mistyped. Cambrige is pure moonbat territory. Boston, maybe. There are still some working-class white neighborhoods. (There I go, bringing race into it)

I know some people who say they will vote Republican for the first time in their lives. Not the moonbats and Koskids at work, but other people.

206 maximoso  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:33:42pm

re: #160 Adrenalyn

I politely disagree
if Obama got into the White House
those doubters in my calling them "nazicrats" instead of "democrats" would finally see them turn 100% totalitarian
maybe not see the death camps
but you'd never see another republican majority again
and not in the White House again
they'd for all intents and purposes outlaw the GOP
thru campaign "reform" where no money can be raised
and the biased media will help them consolidate their power
see the Reuters link on zombietime.com
if you don't think the media and the nazi's collaborate

I share some of that thought - but I frankly don't see an alternative that's palatable. If McCain gets into the White House - don't we have the same impact.

McCain will have Juan Hernandez opening the borders to 30 million Democrats - and all the liberal policies like Cap & Trade will be branded Republican ZConservative policies by the media. He'll attack his fellow republicans and drive up the bus when he's opposed by conservatives - and we all know McCain likes to hold grudges. He could swing more liberal to spite republicans. If you think the Republican party is lost today - wait til you see it in 4 years with the Maverick leading the party. :::: NOOOO! ::::

It really is a crappy time to be a voter in America. We have 3 democrats to choose from - and both have dire long term impacts. I'm going to have to expand my daily prayer!

207 'Nam Grunt  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:33:46pm

That Pfleger priest has just been fired from the church, now he can really rant, I love it!

208 hermeneutics  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:33:54pm

re: #195 Ojoe

I agree, but we still have to get out there and convince the lost.

209 Peacekeeper  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:33:57pm

The big loser in an Obama-Clinton team up will be John (the asskisser) Edwards.

210 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:34:02pm

re: #200 Jetpilot1101

My success in life is not contingent on who occupies the White House. Bring it on Barry, I made it through 8 years of Bill Clinton, I can do 8 years of you standing on my head!

Me too, but when we look back, we'll realize that was 16 years (20, if you include Carter) of our lives that sucked !

211 tfc3rid  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:34:10pm

re: #190 JammieWearingFool

I'd be curious to see the projected numbers from June 2000 and 2004. I'd hedge Algore and Lerch had sizable leads.

In 2004, one of the sites I follow had Kerry 316, Bush 222

212 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:34:28pm
213 'Nam Grunt  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:34:28pm

re: #204 Ward Cleaver

As always I send prayers up for her my Bud. ;-)

214 justsam65  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:34:29pm

The only thing worse than a President Obama is a President Obama with a filibuster proof, Democrat led, senate.

215 wolfie  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:34:35pm

re: #174 tokyobk

Argh. You guys are scaring me. No we do not have this in the bag.

I agree with you.
There is no room whatsoever for complacency.

216 Ojoe  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:34:48pm

re: #208 hermeneutics

True

217 jcm  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:34:56pm

re: #203 hermeneutics

Your hedge is right. Republicans vote predictably and always in greater numbers than expected. The center is shrinking.

Haven't you lied to a pollster? I have.

They quite calling, I challenged the premise of the question, saying the question was flawed and the answers meaningless. Never been called since. I must be an the master pollster shit list.

218 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:34:57pm

re: #175 JammieWearingFool

Yesterday's Rasmussen had Obama up only 3 in CT. If that's close, then NH is competitive. Forget ME, RI, and MA.

Early balloting is in from VT and Obama won 99-1%.

VT. Home of moonbats and Ben and Jerry's. But I repeat myself.

219 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:35:00pm

re: #209 Peacekeeper

The big loser in an Obama-Clinton team up will be John (the asskisser) Edwards.

You mean the new Attorney General?

220 David IV of Georgia  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:35:35pm

re: #188 sattv4u2

in my church he would have been a lifesized reenactment of the Crucifixtion!

I modified my post and edited out things like:

In Eastern Orthodoxy, doctrine does not state that the priesthood confers an indelible character on the person's soul. Laicization removes the ordained status completely. Laicization as an ecclesiastical punishment may carry with it the excommunication of the former cleric from the church for a certain period, or indefinitely. The anathema, the permanent act of excommunication, against a member of the church or a former cleric is usually imposed by the decision of the synod of bishops or the ecclesiastical council. In such cases, this not only defrocks the former cleric but also banishes him from entering an Orthodox church, receiving the Eucharist and other sacraments or being blessed by a priest.

221 CapeCoddah  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:35:36pm

re: #175 JammieWearingFool
I cannot believe im saying this, But, I think Massachusetts may go McCain. We elected an Obamaidiot as governor here, and he is doing nothing but pissing EVERYONE off regularly. Including a 99.99% democratic legislature. Im thinking the morons here may have figured this out. Then again, I still believe in Santa..

222 tokyobk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:35:40pm

re: #199 hydrocarbon hank

I'll bet big money...the kind of money that shows up in my mailbox every month when oil is $130/bbl and gas is $12/mcf. He can't carry the voters who win elections.


I won`t bet against McCain. I hope you are right. McCain needs to be proactive.

223 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:35:45pm
224 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:35:48pm

re: #200 Jetpilot1101

Good point. I'm preparing myself but I'm confident that i can survive just fine.

225 Widow'smight  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:35:54pm

re: #158 tfc3rid

I certainly wouldn't give PA to the Annointed one yet. Lots of Bitter white folks and a large elderly population.

226 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:36:00pm

re: #200 Jetpilot1101

My success in life is not contingent on who occupies the White House. Bring it on Barry, I made it through 8 years of Bill Clinton, I can do 8 years of you standing on my head!

Depends on where Iran uses their nukes.

227 Peacekeeper  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:36:00pm

re: #219 NJDhockeyfan

You mean the new Attorney General?

I mean Hillary will pay him back for his treachery... (as in DOT DOT DOT)

228 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:36:00pm

re: #205 Kosh's Shadow

I might have mistyped. Cambrige is pure moonbat territory. Boston, maybe. There are still some working-class white neighborhoods. (There I go, bringing race into it)

I know some people who say they will vote Republican for the first time in their lives. Not the moonbats and Koskids at work, but other people.

Those have shrunk drastically in the last 10-15 years. West Roxbury, Roslindale, Charlestown, So. Boston used to be 95% white. Go to any of those now!

229 cblesz  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:36:16pm

Pardon me...I just got back up on my chair and wiped my mouth from the vomit. I cannot beleive this guy has a chance to be President, with a majority as well. Be prepared...increase in payroll taxes, increase in cap gains taxes, increase in income taxes as he lets the tax cuts expire, weaker military, universal healthcare (of which you will all pay for), drivers licenses for illegal immigrants and paid college education for said illegal immigrants (of which we will pay for). Oh, don't forget the ability to appoint at least two more Ruth Bader Ginsburgs to the supremem court. Basically, I told my wife to strap in, because we are in big trouble. Barack Obama is Jimmy Carter without the hick accent...

230 wrenchwench  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:36:36pm

re: #196 father_of_10

I didn't bother to go. My wife came back all disappointed because Mitt wasn't on the ballot. She at least wanted to vote for him, if even totally moot.

A local businessman is the Ron Paulian Pooh Bah and he claims to be the Republican Chairman. He has a ponytail and is a troofer. What's with that? That doesn't sound like any Republican chairman I've heard!

It's not too late! Go vote for Steve Pearce! Wilson is a RINO!

231 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:36:40pm

re: #210 sattv4u2

Me too, but when we look back, we'll realize that was 16 years (20, if you include Carter) of our lives that sucked !

"sucked" is a relative term. Life only sucks if you allow it to suck. I'm not saying that 8 years of Barry will be fun but they'll be bearable. While I hate to say this, America may need a modern day "Jimmy Carter" to wake her up and realize that socialism/communism/environmentalism/black liberation theologyism etc. etc. don't f-ing work!

232 Widow'smight  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:36:48pm

re: #171 Occasional Reader

I thought Algorge said 2016

233 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:36:51pm

re: #218 Kosh's Shadow

VT. Home of moonbats and Ben and Jerry's. But I repeat myself.

I live 30 miles from Blacksburg VA. Every time I see VT...ah...dagnabbit!

234 EC Marm  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:37:06pm

re: #207 'Nam Grunt

That Pfleger priest has just been fired from the church, now he can really rant, I love it!


Not fired, given a couple of weeks off. If he keeps his mouth shut and behaves, he'll be back. Unless people in that area keep writing letters to the Cardinal.

235 tfc3rid  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:37:09pm

re: #211 tfc3rid

In 2004, one of the sites I follow had Kerry 316, Bush 222

In June 2004... That was the projection... So yes, Jammie, similar situation...

236 hydrocarbon hank  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:37:23pm

Ladies and Gentlemen,

It is time to get to WORK!

237 hermeneutics  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:37:25pm

re: #217 jcm

I acted like a lefty -- I said I was smitten with Obama and wanted to get out of Iraq. I also said I was 27, unmarried and hispanic!

But then he asked me my zip code and I couldn't think of any codes that fit my profile. So I gave him my real zipcode. That probably sunk it.

238 DistantThunder  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:37:39pm

The cardinal just yanked Phlegar - I have a very strong feeling that the Pope weighed in on this.

239 Peacekeeper  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:37:41pm

Ben and Jerry's sold out to Unilever Corporation- it's OK to eat it now.

240 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:37:45pm

Obama will be bring about the kind of progressive change that this country so desperately needs. We cannot rely on the failed policies of the past; we have to work together to move forward, to the future. He is the right man for our country, our time. He is the one we've been waiting for.

/scratching at the place they just put the chip in my neck

241 mama winger  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:37:45pm

re: #231 Jetpilot1101

I'm not saying that 8 years of Barry will be fun but they'll be bearable.

Our troops may have a differing opinion on that.

242 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:37:48pm

re: #207 'Nam Grunt

That Pfleger priest has just been fired from the church, now he can really rant, I love it!

Only if he wants another, really good hard slap. If he's smart, he'll dummy up.

243 father_of_10  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:37:50pm

Obama/Edwards and they will give Hillary a spot on the bench to make her go away. If Michele gets too far out of line, could Barry through her under the bus like he did his uncle Jeremiah?

I would no sooner denounce Rev'rund Wright than I would my own [strike] grandmother[/strike] wife!

244 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:37:54pm

re: #221 CapeCoddah

I cannot believe im saying this, But, I think Massachusetts may go McCain. We elected an Obamaidiot as governor here, and he is doing nothing but pissing EVERYONE off regularly. Including a 99.99% democratic legislature. Im thinking the morons here may have figured this out. Then again, I still believe in Santa..

see my 157

245 tokyobk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:37:57pm

re: #218 Kosh's Shadow

VT. Home of moonbats and Ben and Jerry's. But I repeat myself.

VT is also almost completely white. And yes his voters were all democrats, but it still makes a statement that Obama can conenct with white voters.

Obama`s first speech about race now will be about how he is mixed. The black thing got him as far as he needed it to.

246 phoenixgirl  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:38:07pm

mccain better win then....if obama does, we could quite frankly be doomed.

247 maximoso  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:38:18pm

re: #203 hermeneutics

Your hedge is right. Republicans vote predictably and always in greater numbers than expected. The center is shrinking.

Haven't you lied to a pollster? I have.

You mean you actually talk to em. If I did - I'd probably lie - but I prefer to turn the other direction or let he phone go to voice mail.

248 hermeneutics  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:38:19pm

re: #221 CapeCoddah

Even I am not that hopeful ... but ... well ... hope and change!

249 really grumpy big dog johnson  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:38:33pm

re: #105 tokyobk

There will also be a big, big bus undering for serious leftists. Obama is going white and going center...

There's not even the slightest chance of that. He is who he is.

250 TN_Vol  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:38:37pm

re: #187 Ward Cleaver

I don't disagree. However it is the voters that are paying, not the respective state parties. The delegates and party officials will still be able to go to Denver for free food and drinks and the voters who didn't have anything to do with the decision get screwed.

As badly as the Democrats handled this situation are we supposed to believe that they are smart enough to somehow create jobs, save the environment, cure male pattern baldness, blah blah blah, etc., etc.

251 mama winger  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:38:44pm

re: #234 EC Marm

Not fired, given a couple of weeks off. If he keeps his mouth shut and behaves, he'll be back. Unless people in that area keep writing letters to the Cardinal.

I don't think he'll be back. I think he's being eased out.

252 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:38:51pm
253 DistantThunder  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:38:52pm

re: #229 cblesz

Pardon me...I just got back up on my chair and wiped my mouth from the vomit. I cannot beleive this guy has a chance to be President, with a majority as well. Be prepared...increase in payroll taxes, increase in cap gains taxes, increase in income taxes as he lets the tax cuts expire, weaker military, universal healthcare (of which you will all pay for), drivers licenses for illegal immigrants and paid college education for said illegal immigrants (of which we will pay for). Oh, don't forget the ability to appoint at least two more Ruth Bader Ginsburgs to the supremem court. Basically, I told my wife to strap in, because we are in big trouble. Barack Obama is Jimmy Carter without the hick accent...

Universal health Care cost saving tip straight from Canada:

Reports and complaints continue that Canadian hospitals are reusing disposable equipment.

Great.

254 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:39:08pm

re: #200 Jetpilot1101

My success in life is not contingent on who occupies the White House. Bring it on Barry, I made it through 8 years of Bill Clinton, I can do 8 years of you standing on my head!

There's a lot more at stake now. The war in Iraq, Iran may be close to getting nukes, the commies are getting more of a toehold in South America, etc.

255 Golem Akbar  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:39:15pm

re: #212 buzzsawmonkey

Don't you believe it. Half the voting public thinks Carter is a nice old poop who builds houses for the needy--and they agree with him that Israel should join Obama's grandma under the bus wheels.


Maybe so, we'll see, but Carter has a way of turning a lot of "moderate, fence sitters" off. He's not a winner. But we'll see.

256 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:39:35pm
257 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:39:41pm

re: #239 Peacekeeper

Ben and Jerry's sold out to Unilever Corporation- it's OK to eat it now.

Yeah...ate some chunky monkey once. had a little pint (single serving in my world) looked at the nutritional info, oh, only 350 calories? cool.

FOUR FREAKIN' SERVINGS. 1400 calories. Well, as soon as I finished off that pint, I stopped eating it.

258 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:39:47pm

re: #241 mama winger

Our troops may have a differing opinion on that.

Mama, I am a "troop" and I think we'll do just fine. The one thing that Vietnam taught thickheaded moonbat liberals is that "spitting" on the troops and bending them over doesn't work. I don't see Barry really screwing the military all that hard.

259 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:40:02pm
260 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:40:09pm

re: #253 DistantThunder

Universal health Care cost saving tip straight from Canada:

Reports and complaints continue that Canadian hospitals are reusing disposable equipment.

Great.

We'll go them one better under Hillary/ Obama care. We'll dispose reusable equipment

261 DistantThunder  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:40:13pm

re: #254 Ward Cleaver

There's a lot more at stake now. The war in Iraq, Iran may be close to getting nukes, the commies are getting more of a toehold in South America, etc.

But we paid for Bill's incompetence with 911. Now the stakes are higher.

262 Lively  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:40:32pm

Dear Hillary,

Hey, hey, hey Goodbye

263 mama winger  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:40:41pm

re: #258 Jetpilot1101

Mama, I am a "troop" and I think we'll do just fine. The one thing that Vietnam taught thickheaded moonbat liberals is that "spitting" on the troops and bending them over doesn't work. I don't see Barry really screwing the military all that hard.

I do. And I think he will act foolishly and without regard for consequences.

264 tokyobk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:40:41pm

re: #249 really grumpy big dog johnson

Obama will play up his mixed-racedness and position himself as an uber-american whose immigrant background gives him a special love for America... He will emphasize himself as the union of white and black.

265 father_of_10  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:40:51pm

re: #230 wrenchwench

It's not too late! Go vote for Steve Pearce! Wilson is a RINO!

Handled.

266 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:40:52pm

re: #253 DistantThunder

Reports and complaints continue that Canadian hospitals are reusing disposable equipment.

Recycling! That's good, don't you understand?! We should recycle everything... syringes, what have you...

267 Fat Jolly Penguin  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:40:57pm

re: #259 NJDhockeyfan

You really need a content warning on something like that.

268 Intrepid  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:41:17pm

re: #221 CapeCoddah

I cannot believe im saying this, But, I think Massachusetts may go McCain. We elected an Obamaidiot as governor here, and he is doing nothing but pissing EVERYONE off regularly. Including a 99.99% democratic legislature. Im thinking the morons here may have figured this out. Then again, I still believe in Santa..

But, but....you mean there's no Santy?

:-(.....

269 jamgarr  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:41:30pm

Another thought - an OC ticket would double the odds of an Iranian Tomahawkfest.

270 republic  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:41:35pm

I'm going to the range, this is all going to work out exactly how it all works out.

I'm going to build upon things which I have control, like my trigger squeeze and my gross motor skills.

Later all, play nice.

271 hermeneutics  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:41:46pm

re: #223 buzzsawmonkey

I had a pollster call ONCE. Three weeks ago.

272 DistantThunder  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:41:46pm

re: #264 tokyobk

Obama will play up his mixed-racedness and position himself as an uber-american whose immigrant background gives him a special love for America... He will emphasize himself as the union of white and black.

And he will embolden the enemy because they will see it as a sign that a true Muslim at birth is president.

273 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:41:47pm
274 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:41:53pm
275 Golem Akbar  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:42:02pm

re: #239 Peacekeeper

Ben and Jerry's sold out to Unilever Corporation- it's OK to eat it now.


It's about time. I really love their stuff. However, my diet may suffer. Oh well, it's for a good cause.

276 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:42:04pm

re: #254 Ward Cleaver

There's a lot more at stake now. The war in Iraq, Iran may be close to getting nukes, the commies are getting more of a toehold in South America, etc.

Agreed and I have no doubt that we'll pay for electing Obama a la 9/11 for Clinton's missteps, but we will survive and we will prevail. In 50 years, Obama and Carter will be remembered as the two worst presidents in the history of the US.

277 Lively  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:42:15pm

re: #264 tokyobk

Obama will play up his mixed-racedness and position himself as an uber-american whose immigrant background gives him a special love for America... He will emphasize himself as the union of white and black.


That will definitely make Michelle proud.

278 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:42:20pm
279 hermeneutics  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:42:27pm

re: #247 maximoso

Lie, my dear. Its a moral good.

280 mama winger  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:42:29pm

re: #266 Occasional Reader

Recycling! That's good, don't you understand?! We should recycle everything... syringes, what have you...

Catheters, surgical sponges, gauze, - the possibilities for going green are endless!

281 'Nam Grunt  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:42:35pm

Y'all need to chill, if Republicans would get off their a$$es and vote I don't see a problem, the majority of this Country are Conservatives!

282 bcgirl  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:42:49pm

GOD, I know you are in control and YOU have a plan that none of us can begin to understand, but please GOD help US,, do not let us come that much closer the the return of the calipate, one step closer to Sharia law in America,, our children's childrens children, will pay for this,

now more than ever MC CAIN FOR PRESIDENT

283 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:43:06pm

re: #267 Fat Jolly Penguin

You really need a content warning on something like that.

Heh. Here's another one...Obama Girl

284 ghost707  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:43:07pm

The TV networks will now start calling him President Obama.
McCain won't be mentioned at all until after he loses the election in November.

285 wolfie  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:43:10pm

re: #233 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I live 30 miles from Blacksburg VA. Every time I see VT...ah...dagnabbit!

Me, too, FBV ! :D

286 EC Marm  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:43:14pm

Obitchuary - when people write Hillary off too soon.

287 Fat Jolly Penguin  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:43:17pm

re: #254 Ward Cleaver

There's a lot more at stake now. The war in Iraq, Iran may be close to getting nukes, the commies are getting more of a toehold in South North America, etc.

288 Inquisitive  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:43:24pm

My chest is tight and I am having a hard time breathing--did someone say something about a PANIC ROOM!
Me thinks the demo's have gone crazy!

289 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:43:25pm

Anyone else think Bobby Jindals phone just rang?

290 hermeneutics  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:43:28pm

re: #278 song_and_dance_man

There is too much at stake with this election and it would behoove the conservatives to reject the play-nice policy we seem to entertain during campaigns. The left will accuse us of foul play anyway so let's come out with both guns blazing.

YES!

291 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:43:30pm
292 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:43:32pm

re: #271 hermeneutics

I had a pollster call ONCE. Three weeks ago.

"I ate his liver with fava beans and a nice chianti."

293 MJ  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:43:40pm

Jimmy Obama and the Carterites gladly accept the nomination.

294 DistantThunder  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:43:41pm

Ebony and Ivory

sing it, everyone........

295 NY Nana  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:43:43pm

re: #157 sattv4u2

(not only Roxbury, but most of Dorchester, Mattapan and Roslindale)

CAMBRIDGE? You HAVE to be joking. If McCain gets more than 35% there, that alone would be a "win"

I agree re Cambridge...I am shocked re Roslindale, and knew that Dorchester and Mattapan were very different than when I was a kid, and we called Blue Hill Ave. 'Jew Hill Ave'....so many of my Mum's zt'l cousins lived there, in Chelsea, and Mishkan Tefila was there. It moved to Chestnut Hill when I was in my teens. We lived nearby, in Newton.

MyDad's zt'l family were all on the North Shore.

Most of the maternal cousins had moved to Brookline, etc, by then, and NY, and a few to FL and CA, and 1 to Ottawa, with her family, where her husband, who is now retired, was a Rabbi.

A very different world. We have been in NY for decades.

296 wrenchwench  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:43:51pm

re: #243 father_of_10

Go vote! Wilson was against the Real ID act, and she was for driver's licenses for illegals. Steve Pearce hangs out with Sue Myrick!

Go vote!

297 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:43:54pm

re: #263 mama winger

I do. And I think he will act foolishly and without regard for consequences.

Since I have every intention of continuing to frequent LGF and I assume you do as well, we shall probably resolve this argument in the not too distant future. I'm not going anywhere and I'm sure Charles isn't either.

298 Widow'smight  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:43:59pm

re: #231 Jetpilot1101


Besides, if our Country sucks, the whole world is going with us.

I agree with you, unless Obama can send Storm Troopers to everyone's house and steal our guns and wimmen, we'll survive. Besides, there are currently 60 dem Reps from districts President Bush carried in 2004. Don't think they'll vote themselves out of office.

299 CapeCoddah  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:44:00pm

re: #244 sattv4u2

300 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:44:20pm
301 tokyobk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:44:26pm

re: #272 DistantThunder

And he will embolden the enemy because they will see it as a sign that a true Muslim at birth is president.


Perhaps. But, I am just saying what I think his strategy to win in the general will be.

Obama is showing himself to be a very skilled politician and master of image. He used the idea of a first black president to exite the left but will start playing up his deep american plus immigrant roots to win generally.

Again, if McCain just sits back and watches the show, he loses.

302 hermeneutics  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:44:26pm

re: #286 EC Marm

Good one!

303 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:44:31pm

re: #294 DistantThunder

Ebony and Ivory

sing it, everyone........

There are times that you are just not very nice.

304 mama winger  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:44:55pm

Conceivably, Obama could pick Carter for Veep.

305 maximoso  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:44:59pm

re: #240 Occasional Reader

Obama will be bring about the kind of progressive change that this country so desperately needs to avoid. We cannot rely on the failed policies of the past; we have to work together to move forward, to the future. He is the right man for our country, our time. He is the one we've been waiting for.

/scratching at the place they just put the chip in my neck

You're right. WE don't need failed policies of teh past. Why does Barack Obama want to bring us back to Jimmy Carter days again?

Barack Obama is a Marxist. His policies aren't new - they have been tried all over this planet - and it leads to misery for the masses. Pull out some history books - it's no secret that Marxism doesn't work.

306 CapeCoddah  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:45:01pm

re: #244 sattv4u2
Saw it, But Mass is not just Boston.

307 wrenchwench  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:45:11pm

re: #265 father_of_10

Handled.

oh, ignore my next one then. Sorry.

/ I was about to offer to babysit!

308 snowcrash  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:45:14pm

re: #300 ploome hineni
But do they make something like Cherry Garcia?

309 father_of_10  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:45:16pm

re: #296 wrenchwench

Go vote! Wilson was against the Real ID act, and she was for driver's licenses for illegals. Steve Pearce hangs out with Sue Myrick!

Go vote!

Wife came back chided me for not voting, so I went down gave Heather the thumbs down.

We're in G-Town, where are you?

310 hermeneutics  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:45:18pm

re: #295 NY Nana

zt'l?

311 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:45:18pm

re: #231 Jetpilot1101

"sucked" is a relative term. Life only sucks if you allow it to suck. I'm not saying that 8 years of Barry will be fun but they'll be bearable. While I hate to say this, America may need a modern day "Jimmy Carter" to wake her up and realize that socialism/communism/environmentalism/bla ck liberation theologyism etc. etc. don't f-ing work!

Well, if you're in an Israeli city targeted by Iran, well, I don't think you have a choice on how much being nuked would suck.

With Obama, Iran gets nukes. And they won't just be used on Israel.
Unless of course, Obamahdi just goes and surrenders.

312 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:45:21pm

re: #295 NY Nana

The Jews have left (to Peabody Newton and Wellesley, I think)

Blue Hill Ave is all black. Chelsea is all Hispanic and Vietnamese

313 'Nam Grunt  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:45:23pm

It only costs $4 to get you to the polls, stop bitching and get out and vote in Nov., it's your duty!

314 bulwrk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:45:25pm

re: #258 Jetpilot1101

Mama, I am a "troop" and I think we'll do just fine. The one thing that Vietnam taught thickheaded moonbat liberals is that "spitting" on the troops and bending them over doesn't work. I don't see Barry really screwing the military all that hard.


Oh I see him slashing the DOD budget to pay for lavish social programs.

315 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:45:28pm
316 NY Nana  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:45:33pm

re: #189 song_and_dance_man

Have mercy! It is almost dinner time here. ;)

317 Dave the.....  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:45:39pm

I've been spending some time on the Mpls papers discussion boards today. It's like a Zombie event on there. We have the anti-Semitic guy who says Jews control the nation. The guy who keeps coming on and saying McCain collaborated with the North Vietnemese. Some Democrats who are mainstream....for their party. McCain folks....both sane and a couple over-the-top ones.

Most noticable thing.....Obama supporters can't really say what makes him qualified. They just attack McCain.

318 tokyobk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:45:56pm

re: #277 Lively

That will definitely make Michelle proud.

Actually, I seriously think she is going to be shocked most of all by how much of a regular happy all-American dude who loves apple pie and the fourth who talks like a white guy even that she married. Wath for the white family to come out from under the bus.

319 GeeWiz  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:46:09pm

When one considers the massive egos of WAB and HRC, does anyone here actually think that the WAB would allow the Bama man to give HRC the VP slot? Share offices in the White House? I sincerely doubt it. As big as the White House is, it isn't big enough to contain the egos of both candidates and their spouses.

320 father_of_10  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:46:11pm

re: #307 wrenchwench

oh, ignore my next one then. Sorry.

/ I was about to offer to babysit!

Babysit! I need to go vote aga, and I will need to vote Friday night too! Call me!

321 DistantThunder  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:46:23pm

re: #303 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

There are times that you are just not very nice.

re: #303 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

There are times that you are just not very nice.

I think this should be Obama's and HIllary's campaign theme.

322 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:46:30pm

re: #306 CapeCoddah

Saw it, But Mass is not just Boston.

I know that, but I was answering someone else that stated Mccain could take Boston and Cambridge

323 hermeneutics  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:46:58pm

re: #308 snowcrash

That's the best darn icecream in the universe. Just thinking about it makes me want to jump in my car, drive the 37 miles to the nearest town, and EAT.

324 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:47:06pm

re: #295 NY Nana

I agree re Cambridge...I am shocked re Roslindale, and knew that Dorchester and Mattapan were very different than when I was a kid, and we called Blue Hill Ave. 'Jew Hill Ave'....so many of my Mum's zt'l cousins lived there, in Chelsea, and Mishkan Tefila was there. It moved to Chestnut Hill when I was in my teens. We lived nearby, in Newton.

MyDad's zt'l family were all on the North Shore.

Most of the maternal cousins had moved to Brookline, etc, by then, and NY, and a few to FL and CA, and 1 to Ottawa, with her family, where her husband, who is now retired, was a Rabbi.

A very different world. We have been in NY for decades.

I grew up on Blue Hill ave. By high school, we moved near Mattapan Square, so I could stay in Boston Latin.
But earlier, on the High Holy Days, Blue Hill Ave was wall-to-wall Jews. We went to Kehillath Jacob, on Fessenden St.

325 NY Nana  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:47:28pm

re: #288 Inquisitive


Me thinks the demo's have gone are crazy!

Fixed it for you.

326 'Nam Grunt  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:47:40pm

Make it a tailgate party and be there with your friends before the polls open, nothing like the smell of ribs and voting Republican. ;-)

327 nacazo  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:47:45pm

re: #140 Peacekeeper

It's simple political necessity. They have to join up or they split their base. Hillary ain't got any other job prospects or any self respect either. It's not like being junior senator to Chuck Schumer is her ambition in life.

It's a no-brainer for Hillary to be the Dem VP candidate. If the democrats lose, she goes back to the Senate as Lieberman. If the Dems happen to win, AND Obama stays in office for eight years (scary!) then she would be the heir-apparent and become the Dem candidate as Bush I was after Reagan.

328 DistantThunder  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:47:50pm

I'm off to the polls to vote for against Senior Senator Lautenberg, but I'm wondering if I should vote for his Democrat opponent.

329 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:48:30pm
330 hermeneutics  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:48:56pm

re: #318 tokyobk

You are very insightful about race and society, Tokyo. I've learned a lot from you.

331 sattv4u2  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:49:14pm

re: #329 ploome hineni

I am not a cherry garcia kinda girl

I like nuts

must ,,,,,, not ,,,,,,,, respond ,,,,,,, less ,,,,,, I ,,,, get ,,,, banned ,,,, (or smacked )

332 maximoso  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:49:31pm

re: #258 Jetpilot1101

Mama, I am a "troop" and I think we'll do just fine. The one thing that Vietnam taught thickheaded moonbat liberals is that "spitting" on the troops and bending them over doesn't work. I don't see Barry really screwing the military all that hard.

Apparently you missed his Youtube video about his massive cuts for Military Budget. Starting with nuclear - then missle defense - later downsizing the troop levels.

With the Democrats in congress for just over a year - we've already had major budget cuts at a Nuclear Research firm called Fermi-Lab. So much for expanding Science. If it's not a wind turbine or some other technology that won't work - Leftists aren't interested.

333 Dave the.....  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:49:32pm

I hope for a McCain victory in November, and gridlock in Washington after that. That last thing I want to hear is "the bill had bi-partison support".

334 mikalm  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:49:48pm

re: #317 Dave the.....

Most noticable thing.....Obama supporters can't really say what makes him qualified.

Change!

335 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:49:59pm

re: #311 Kosh's Shadow

Well, if you're in an Israeli city targeted by Iran, well, I don't think you have a choice on how much being nuked would suck.

With Obama, Iran gets nukes. And they won't just be used on Israel.
Unless of course, Obamahdi just goes and surrenders.


Believe me, I am not thrilled about this turn of events and I happen to agree with you that Iran could get nukes and use them if Obama is elected and follows through on his foreign policy ideas.

My point was that while there may be trials in your life and the possibility of significant harm coming to you and those you love, I firmly believe that you can still make the most out of each day you are blessed with and live it like it is your last. Your outlook on life is your choice regardless of the circumstances surrounding it.

336 hermeneutics  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:50:05pm

re: #329 ploome hineni

Smile. Me too.

337 CapeCoddah  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:50:07pm

re: #322 sattv4u2
YIPES, sorry, misread that one. McCain will NOT take Boston or Cambridge. Moonbat worldwide headquarters.

338 bill in tx  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:50:09pm

An Obama presidency would be a failure and a colossal embarrassment to America and (delightfully) the Democrats. I would actually be scared if Obama gets elected. I've never felt that way about a candidate before.

But, look on the bright side. It's a golden opportunity to shatter the idealism of an entire generation of young (immature) voters. It's over-reliance on idealism that got Obama where he is. We might as well nip that one in the bud right now.

McCain will likely rip him to shreds in any real contest. McCain should be worried about a backlash though, you know being too harsh on the little "Irish boy" as our man Kinky called him.

339 psyop  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:50:19pm

Go McCain!

Now it gets fun.....

340 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:50:21pm
341 NY Nana  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:50:51pm

re: #312 sattv4u2

The Jews have left (to Peabody Newton and Wellesley, I think)

Blue Hill Ave is all black. Chelsea is all Hispanic and Vietnamese

Also Brookline, which has most of the kosher facilities. Wellesly? like Newton it was restricted when I was a kid. We couldn't move to Newton until I was 13.

I can't get over the changes. I hear that Revere is also very different.

342 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:51:17pm

re: #314 bulwrk

Oh I see him slashing the DOD budget to pay for lavish social programs.


Possibly but remember he can't piss off too many of the people who depend on the DOD for work or they will turn against him. Social programs for the poor aren't going to be popular with the guy who just lost his job.

343 'Nam Grunt  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:51:18pm

Best ice cream in the world is Blue Bell from the Republic of Texas, we treat our cows gently! LOLOL

344 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:51:24pm

re: #336 hermeneutics

Smile. Me too.

Must.........resist............temptation......... ...to...........respond..........................a hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

345 Anthony (Los Angeles)  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:51:34pm

But how does this help Michelle's kids?

346 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:51:50pm
347 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:52:35pm

re: #344 A Kiwi Infidel

Aw, what the heck.............with hair?

348 tokyobk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:52:53pm

re: #330 hermeneutics

You are very insightful about race and society, Tokyo. I've learned a lot from you.


Oh. Thanks. I grew up around a lot of other mixed raced people at schools like Obama`s and I know how they negotiate, me too I confess, using all angles, especially when trying to negotiate with white people. As crass as that sounds, because it is and was, I can feel how Obama is playing his white audience. But I know John McCain is the right choice and I do not want to see him get played. Underestimating Obamas skill at ppolitics, especially race politics, will get him owned.

349 hermeneutics  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:53:03pm

re: #344 A Kiwi Infidel

DO NOT RESPOND, KIWI. JUST DON'T DO IT. RESTRAIN YOURSELF.

Okay, go ahead ...

350 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:53:18pm

re: #341 NY Nana

Also Brookline, which has most of the kosher facilities. Wellesly? like Newton it was restricted when I was a kid. We couldn't move to Newton until I was 13.

I can't get over the changes. I hear that Revere is also very different.

That fact flabbergasts me: that neighborhoods were restricted.

351 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:54:01pm

re: #347 A Kiwi Infidel

Aw, what the heck.............with hair?

Like, I mean...........

352 Adrenalyn  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:54:11pm

in case no one else mentioned this earlier

Charles, one minor correction, if I may

his name is really

Barak Hussein Obama

and we should maybe refer to him as that
as we did Hillary Rodham Clinton

353 calcajun  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:54:25pm

re: #137 Adrenalyn

Here is my prediction. McCain wins a close race and the GOP gets hammered like never before in the down-ticket elections.

The loss of three traditional GOP House seats in special elections, coupled with the Dems running "purple" candidates - social liberals/ fiscal and foreign policy conservatives- will pay off as it did in 2006. But, the vast majority of Americans are not ready for a far left liberal president, irrespective of his skin hue.

Barry. He's Jimmy Carter without the faith. He's John Kerry without the legislative experience. He's Mike Dukakis without the executive experience. He's Walter Mondale without the.... Yep, he's Walter Mondale.

With apologies to John Landis' "Trading Places". Hillary awakes tomorrow morning and sees Bill next to her.

Oh Bill, I've had the most absurd nightmare. I split the party and no one liked me. I lost the nomination, I lost my own money. The media hated me. And it was all because of this terrible, awful Negro.

354 GeeWiz  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:54:43pm

re: #262 Lively

Dear Hillary,

Hey, hey, hey Goodbye

A little trivia here, the group in the video you posted never recorded that song. The song was recorded by a couple of studio musicians after a late night recording session just fooling around. When the song became a hit, the group was formed for touring purposes. I really need to get a life.

355 hermeneutics  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:54:45pm

re: #348 tokyobk

As a white person, though atypical, I really don't understand what there is to negotiate. I don't feel any of this. Really!

356 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:54:58pm

re: #349 hermeneutics

DO NOT RESPOND, KIWI. JUST DON'T DO IT. RESTRAIN YOURSELF.

Okay, go ahead ...

I wonder if you could veet one of these?

357 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:55:21pm

re: #337 CapeCoddah

YIPES, sorry, misread that one. McCain will NOT take Boston or Cambridge. Moonbat worldwide headquarters.

I think I miswrote the original, because I meant that Obama would take Boston and Cambridge. Other cities may be different.
There are also moonbat towns that will go for Obama, but places that could go to McCain.

358 Richard Romano  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:55:50pm

re: #18 hermeneutics

But what if people vote for him because they think everyone else will? The media will go into a complete frenzy to ensure his election; this is not counting Mr. Soros, who will pour millions to try to discredit McCain and advance the leftist agenda.

I'm worried guys.

359 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:56:16pm

re: #314 bulwrk

Oh I see him slashing the DOD budget to pay for lavish social programs.

/in his own words

360 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:56:48pm

re: #241 mama winger

Our troops may have a differing opinion on that.

No shit. If BHO wins, look for people to start leaving the military in droves.

361 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:56:54pm

re: #353 calcajun

Yep, he's Walter Mondale

But with (inexplicable) charisma. That's the problem. I am not, at all, counting out a sound McCain victory. But it won't be an easy thing; and WE ALL have our work cut out for us.

362 hermeneutics  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:56:54pm

re: #356 A Kiwi Infidel

Not my type. Sorry!

363 Random_Lizard  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:57:05pm

Thanks super leftist moonbat liberals, I'll be voting republican in the next presidential election!

364 Dave the.....  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:57:44pm

You know, if it wasn't for the judges and the WOT, I almost would like to see Obama win, and then set up 2010 as another 1994. Republicans need a kick in the ass.

Unfortunately, this isn't the 1990's...we can't afford two years of ultra liberal control.

365 U.S.S. Nixon  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:58:00pm

Thank you Democrats... In a year we should lose by double digits you pick a racist liberal elitist with home grown terrorist ties. You have out done yourself this year.

366 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:58:01pm
367 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:58:44pm

re: #362 hermeneutics

Not my type. Sorry!

I think I'm just trying to get myself out of a hole without continuing to dig. I may just have to wait for a new thread.

368 'Nam Grunt  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:59:02pm

re: #360 Ward Cleaver

Look for Iraq to be even worse than Cambodia, you think the world hates us now, just wait until the moonbats are running the GWoT!

369 Adrenalyn  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:59:17pm

re: #333 Dave the.....

I hope for a McCain victory in November, and gridlock in Washington after that. That last thing I want to hear is "the bill had bi-partisan support".


any republican talking about being "bi-partisan"
is only being an appeaser, if you ask me

the democrats need to be taken down a peg or three
they're only getting bolder at talk of bo-partisanship and bringing civility back to DC

Bush tried, genuinely
and see where it got him
they tossed it all back in his face
problem is, he never learned from it

370 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:59:24pm

All of McCain's pandering to Hispanics may well pay off, he seems quite popular among the Latinos that I know, most of whom usually vote Democrat.

If McCain can get 35 to 40% of the Hispanic vote he might be able to win California.

371 hermeneutics  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:59:48pm

re: #358 Richard Romano

Richard, The media will froth and foam ... and they'll reach some, but not all. The media just isn't as pervasive as it was in the last election, but it is still mighty.

The alterntive media, though, is thriving -- Internet, talkradio, cable tv.

I hope it is a battle royale between the old media and our new media. If this is the case, we win. (Besides that, we have more children. One of mine can vote in November! YES WE CAN).

372 NY Nana  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:59:48pm

re: #324 Kosh's Shadow

I grew up on Blue Hill ave. By high school, we moved near Mattapan Square, so I could stay in Boston Latin.
But earlier, on the High Holy Days, Blue Hill Ave was wall-to-wall Jews. We went to Kehillath Jacob, on Fessenden St.

I got into Girls Latin, but did not want to go, for which I think I was never forgiven...my boy cousins went to Boys Latin. We were in Brighton. My parents actually had me go, as a tuition student, to the Edward Devotion School in Brookline, for 2 years til we moved to Newton. The junior high in Brighton was not very good. I went to school in newton from age 13, and graduated from NHS in '55, when there was only 1 High School.

We belonged to Ohabei Shalom, in Brookline anyway, and I had a lot of friends there from my childhood on.

I loved going to visit family in Mattapan and Dorchester, and going to Blue Hill Ave.as a kid! I don't really remember where it was that we went though; too long ago! ;)

373 wrenchwench  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 2:59:49pm

re: #309 father_of_10

Wife came back chided me for not voting, so I went down gave Heather the thumbs down.

We're in G-Town, where are you?

re: #320 father_of_10

Babysit! I need to go vote aga, and I will need to vote Friday night too! Call me!

I'm in an undisclosed corner of the state. It's a very long drive from you, in Steve Pearce's district (as you may have guessed). If you bring the kids here.....

374 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:00:32pm

Adios Lizards, I have a simulator even to study for.

Keep your chins up, a lot can happen in 5 months. Stay positive and I guarantee you we'll all get through this.

I can't wait for the debate threads and the election night thread on LGF!

375 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:00:39pm

The biggest challenge for the GOP (and ultimately America) is getting past the fawning media.

OTOH, the media like to play kingmaker...

376 DeathtotheSwiss  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:00:49pm

In theory, and at least at present if nothing new comes up on McCain, and Barrack's illicit associations keep being uncovered...this should be a good thing. I know my democrat wife and in-laws are all planning on voting for McCain this year.

So...smack every Republican who says he can't vote for my favorite RINO and point to Iraq, Afghanistan and the greater fight. McCain might not be ideal, but he's the best chance we have.

377 NY Nana  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:00:53pm

re: #343 'Nam Grunt

Best ice cream in the world is Blue Bell from the Republic of Texas, we treat our cows gently! LOLOL

And we northerners now can get it here!

378 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:01:14pm

re: #368 'Nam Grunt

Look for Iraq to be even worse than Cambodia, you think the world hates us now, just wait until the moonbats are running the GWoT!

Is it running it if you just surrender, or quit? Because that's what the moonbats are demanding.

379 Richard Romano  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:01:31pm

re: #371 hermeneutics

Richard, The media will froth and foam ... and they'll reach some, but not all. The media just isn't as pervasive as it was in the last election, but it is still mighty.

The alterntive media, though, is thriving -- Internet, talkradio, cable tv.

I hope it is a battle royale between the old media and our new media. If this is the case, we win. (Besides that, we have more children. One of mine can vote in November! YES WE CAN).

Okay -- I'll stay positive! Go McCain!

380 'Nam Grunt  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:01:38pm

re: #377 NY Nana

Yayyyyyy!

381 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:02:11pm

re: #374 Jetpilot1101

Adios Lizards, I have a simulator even to study for.

Keep your chins up, a lot can happen in 5 months. Stay positive and I guarantee you we'll all get through this.

I can't wait for the debate threads and the election night thread on LGF!

Okay, I am almost convinced you ARE my brother--is your first initial a K?

382 Wendya  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:02:17pm

re: #5 Alouette

I'm sure Hillary still has a trick or two up her sleeve. It ain't over till it's over.

It ain't over until they vote at the convention. Anything could happen between now and then.

383 jorline  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:02:27pm

And the winner is................................................ ...........

384 Q  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:02:35pm

re: #376 DeathtotheSwiss

Best chance of what?

385 itellu3times  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:03:22pm

re: #18 hermeneutics

Hey, he's the weaker candidate! We should be rejoicing for when McCain wins -- which is more certain now -- Israel and the United States will be protected from radical Islam.

I sure hope so.

Obama may have been one of the few candidates who could defeat the Hildabeast, and yet be one of the few candidates who McCain can defeat.

Sure hope so ...

386 wolfie  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:05:06pm

re: #318 tokyobk

Tokyo, I was sorry you weren't on the thread about the Puerto Rican primary.
Hillary won there by almost as big a margin as she did in WVA.

I am purely speculating here, mind you, but I think the appeal Obama has to whites is (so far) confined to race-obsessed, class-conscious, prosperous liberals.

Appalachia is mostly white, whereas Puerto Rico is very mixed. The two places are very, very different. The one thing the people as a whole have in common is that they don't feel guilty.

No guilt? Nobama.

387 hermeneutics  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:05:13pm

Charles,

Lets make LGF "ELECTION HEADQUARTERS" in 2008. Can we do it? Some cool graphics, nice interactive maps ... oh, you know.

We'll all show up. Promise.

388 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:05:30pm

I THINK WE SHOULD ALL PANIC, AND RUN AROUND WITH NO PANTS ON.

Who's with me?

389 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:05:43pm

re: #343 'Nam Grunt

Best ice cream in the world is Blue Bell from the Republic of Texas, we treat our cows gently! LOLOL

Yes, it is the best! I don't even buy anything else.

390 Dave the.....  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:05:43pm

NRO had an interesting take on the election......Americans want McCain to be President, but they don't want a Republican. They want to vote for a Democrat this year, but don't want Obama.

391 itellu3times  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:06:12pm

re: #354 GeeWiz

A little trivia here, the group in the video you posted never recorded that song. The song was recorded by a couple of studio musicians after a late night recording session just fooling around. When the song became a hit, the group was formed for touring purposes. I really need to get a life.

I dinnah no that. Video sure looks like a lip sync.

392 pyrodoctor  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:06:13pm

re: #37 hermeneutics

The worst case scenario is Obama choosing Clinton for his veep. Pray it doesn't happen.

I agree. But you guys need to lighten up a bit. How can BO be worse than HRC? Do you want a real liberal or a closet liberal? IMHO, the pro HRC comments of most of the people on this board's merely reflect their deep seated wish for the Dems to lose the election. BO stands a decent chance of getting elected, which probably terrifies people on this board. Better chance of getting elected than HRC in my opinion.

Rather than whining about it pressure should be applied to get him to put together a decent team, since in reality the Pres doesn't have nearly the power that everyone thinks he does. The people that he surrounds himself with have a hell of a lot of influence on the way things go.

BO has been chastised enough with his Pastor Disasters that I'm sure he will be very careful of who he chooses. Hopefully not HRC and all the associated baggage that goes with that.

393 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:06:17pm

re: #384 Q

Best chance of what?

Slowing down the train on the tracks that run parallel to The Highway to Hell.

It's been the main purpose of my voting career.

It's always going to come down to a choice between a Turd Sandwich and a Giant Douche.

394 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:06:31pm
395 jorline  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:06:46pm

Now it's time to take the gloves off

396 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:06:49pm
397 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:07:06pm

re: #388 Occasional Reader

I THINK WE SHOULD ALL PANIC, AND RUN AROUND WITH NO PANTS ON.

Who's with me?

In other words, Standard Operating Procedure? No problemo!

398 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:07:27pm
399 hermeneutics  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:07:43pm

re: #385 itellu3times

I hope so, too. Generally I'm optimistic but sometimes I'm consumed with fear and doubt -- or in the Bible/Kierkegaard's words, fear and trembling (phobos et tremos).

400 hermeneutics  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:08:00pm

re: #388 Occasional Reader

Alone again, OR?

401 calcajun  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:08:34pm

re: #398 song_and_dance_man

What? No Jello?

402 pyrodoctor  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:08:46pm

re: #102 song_and_dance_man

2012 here we come.

I doubt it. If she loses this year she will be branded a loser and they won't want to have her back.

403 Fasternu426  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:08:57pm

re: #343 'Nam Grunt

Best ice cream in the world is Blue Bell from the Republic of Texas, we treat our cows gently! LOLOL

re: #377 NY Nana

And we northerners now can get it here!


MMMMMM! Bluebell! Eat all they can and sell the rest!
I used to live in Brenham!

404 SlartyBartfast  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:09:03pm

re: #54 mama winger

Speaking of Obama, my dog has to poop. bbl

Speaking of poop...

It appears that the MSM has poured enough syrup on this particular dog turd that the Democratic Party has declared, "It's a PANCAKE!" and are going to attempt to sell it to the American People.

Prediction...

McCain will win and win BIG, followed by a tsunami of whining from the Left.

405 Shifty  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:09:21pm

I think she's sticking around long enough to see if that michelle obama going off on whitey tape is real.

406 David IV of Georgia  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:09:40pm

re: #343 'Nam Grunt

Best ice cream in the world is Blue Bell from the Republic of Texas, we treat our cows gently! LOLOL

I wouldn't know if Ben & Jerry's is good or not. I never see Ben & Jerry's at any grocery store. Is it under the mountains of Blue Bell?

I was at a grocery store a couple of days ago and noticed they had more shelving dedicated to ice cream and its variants than anything else in the store. Just who eats all that ice cream?

407 itellu3times  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:09:41pm

re: #300 ploome hineni

now I eat Haggen Daz......without guar

HD was good before *they* were bought out, almost tasteless after, but then I haven't tried them in years. Good again?

Really, Baskin-Robbins is pretty good.

Not like when I lived across the street from the farm where they pretty much milked the cow and froze it on the spot, but dang that stuff would melt all over your hand faster than you could eat it, no matter how good it was.

408 nikis-knight  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:09:46pm

re: #201 tokyobk

If McCain can go up against Obama like he is going up against Tiger Woods (this is a sport and Obama is a huge talent) and explain to the American people in very simple but forceful terms what is at stake in the world than he has a realistic shot.

Obama will play an A game all the way through.

Yeah, since he's been doing so great so far.
It'd take imaginary sniper fire to do as poorly as Obama...

409 Fasternu426  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:10:13pm

re: #404 SlartyBartfast

the Democratic Party has declared, "It's a PANCAKE!" WAFFLE! and are going to attempt to sell it to the American People.

410 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:10:23pm
411 BellaBello  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:10:35pm

Somewhere MEchelle Oblahma is thinking..thank you whitey.

412 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:10:35pm

re: #392 pyrodoctor

BHO hasn't learned anything, and he will take advice from conservatives the day Hell freezes over. He has a lot of debts to pay off, and he will have more if he wins in November.

And I agree, he has a better chance of winning than Hillary did/does, IMO. Because Hillary has supporters, and BHO has worshippers.

He will also need a good team, since he is an empty sack. But he has that, they are on the other end of his strings.

/oh, and shove that terrified and whining crap back where you got it

413 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:11:10pm

Best ice cream I've had (well, gelato, which is technically a little different) is from the local mini-chain "4D" in Lima, Peru.

414 DesertSage  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:11:11pm

re: #404 SlartyBartfast

It appears that the MSM has poured enough syrup on this particular dog turd that the Democratic Party has declared, "It's a PANCAKE!" and are going to attempt to sell it to the American People.

You meant "WAFFLE", right?

415 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:11:37pm
416 itellu3times  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:11:56pm

re: #399 hermeneutics

I hope so, too. Generally I'm optimistic but sometimes I'm consumed with fear and doubt -- or in the Bible/Kierkegaard's words, fear and trembling (phobos et tremos).

I'm more of an HST fear and loathing (res ipsa loquitur) kind of guy.

417 SagamoreGal  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:12:16pm

Denmark? Poland? Czechoslovakia? Hungary? Peru? Brazil?

Where can a U.S. citizen who may want to flee an Obama-led country move to and not bump against communists, dhimmi's and Muslims 24/7? The options are few and far between.

Hell, even Colombia is looking good right now.

418 hermeneutics  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:12:32pm

re: #416 itellu3times

Gonzo!

419 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:12:38pm
420 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:12:40pm

re: #414 DesertSage

You meant "WAFFLE", right?

Not if it's a St. Pancake!

421 Mike in Georgia  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:12:51pm

re: #406 David IV of Georgia

Holds hand up slowly.

422 jorline  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:12:57pm

re: #398 song_and_dance_man

And wrestle in the mud if we must.

Amen brother

423 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:13:02pm

re: #410 song_and_dance_man

Never would I have thunk that ice cream would be discussed on a B. Hussein thread.

It's a lot more cheerful to talk about ice cream.

424 Fasternu426  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:13:17pm

re: #417 SagamoreGal

Denmark? Poland? Czechoslovakia? Hungary? Peru? Brazil?

Where can a U.S. citizen who may want to flee an Obama-led country move to and not bump against communists, dhimmi's and Muslims 24/7? The options are few and far between.

Hell, even Colombia is looking good right now.

You're welcome here in Texas. It's like a whole other country!

425 'Nam Grunt  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:13:23pm

re: #415 song_and_dance_man

Their spines are made of sugarless green jello, they are all cowards and liars!

426 mama winger  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:13:42pm

Mud wrestlilng? Jello fights? Running around with no pants on?

No wonder I love this place.

427 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:14:19pm

re: #426 mama winger

Mud wrestlilng? Jello fights? Running around with no pants on?

No wonder I love this place.

And we all get ice cream when we're done.

428 Mike in Georgia  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:14:29pm

re: #426 mama winger

and the ice cream

429 Bosk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:14:31pm

(In my best J. Wright voice) Bow to the False prophet of hope, the bring of loose change, the misleading messiah of racial redemption! Give him half a chance and he will RIDE YOU DIRTY!

430 DesertSage  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:14:32pm

You do realize that we're all gonna become cannibals.

431 mikalm  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:14:35pm

re: #388 Occasional Reader

Can we also Take Our Clothes Off When We Dance? (sorry, couldn't find the Zappa/Mothers original...)

432 GeeWiz  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:14:42pm

re: #404 SlartyBartfast

I so hope you are right!

433 mama winger  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:14:49pm

re: #427 Occasional Reader


I knew I should have shaved my legs today.

434 'Nam Grunt  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:14:57pm

Remember the moonbats are suffering from gas prices too, let's see how they handle it, Republicans can handle it no problem, we have jobs!

435 runrabbitrun  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:15:18pm

re: #390 Dave the.....

NRO had an interesting take on the election......Americans want McCain to be President, but they don't want a Republican.

yaaay!

if they don't want a Republican, then Americans can vote for McCain!

=/

436 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:15:54pm
437 David IV of Georgia  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:15:56pm
re: #378OldLineTexan 6/03/08 3:01:14 pm

re: #368 'Nam Grunt

Look for Iraq to be even worse than Cambodia, you think the world hates us now, just wait until the moonbats are running the GWoT!

Is it running it if you just surrender, or quit? Because that's what the moonbats are demanding.

Unfortunately once in power all the anti-war rhetoric will likely give way to trying to fix things. The military will likely end up doing hairbrained unfocused "humanitarian" missions with inadequate supplies and support due to budget cuts.

438 pyrodoctor  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:15:57pm

re: #412 OldLineTexan

He will also need a good team, since he is an empty sack. But he has that, they are on the other end of his strings.

I totally agree. But BO seems to have fewer strings attached than HRC. I think that is why McCain is so abhorred by the hard core Republicans -- because he doesn't respond well to people tugging his strings.

The fact is though, that no matter who wins, we will be in for a Republocrat administration, where the moneyed interests control the show.

439 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:16:11pm

re: #417 SagamoreGal

Denmark? Poland? Czechoslovakia? Hungary? Peru? Brazil?

Where can a U.S. citizen who may want to flee an Obama-led country move to and not bump against communists, dhimmi's and Muslims 24/7? The options are few and far between.

Hell, even Colombia is looking good right now.

Eff Nobama, I am not going anywhere. I am not a Baldwin or a Sarandon, a poseur and paper tiger with the staying power of a "no food coloring added" Kool-Aid stain. I grew up in the shadow of the Greatest Generation, a group of Americans who really did save the world. How will I be worthy to stand in the presence of my forebears if I surrender their legacy to a tool of the Chicago political machine and George Soros?

440 Dianna  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:16:15pm

re: #434 'Nam Grunt

It's way easier when you don't have a long commute.

441 GeeWiz  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:16:21pm

re: #412 OldLineTexan

I like your "tude" sir. You remind me of my dad, God rest his soul.

442 jorline  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:16:24pm

re: #405 Shifty

I think she's sticking around long enough to see if that michelle obama going off on whitey tape is real.


I agree...she will suspend her candidacy at this time.

443 DesertSage  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:16:34pm

re: #434 'Nam Grunt

Remember the moonbats are suffering from gas prices too, let's see how they handle it, Republicans can handle it no problem, we have jobs!

Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid promised in 2006 to fix the gas crisis if they were elected.
Two years later....and gas prices have doubled.

444 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:16:51pm

re: #425 'Nam Grunt

Their spines are made of sugarless green jello, they are all cowards and liars!

WITH NO CARROT SLIVERS!

445 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:17:09pm

My prediction; at the Dem convention, both Hillary and Obama will be kidnapped by Triskelions, and forced to battle each other in a private arena for the next several years. Rudderless, the Dems will nominate Sean Penn. Result: McCain landslide.

Remember where you read it.

446 Dianna  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:17:31pm

re: #439 OldLineTexan

I feel much the same way. This is my country.

447 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:18:26pm
448 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:18:35pm

Later.

449 mikalm  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:18:41pm

re: #439 OldLineTexan

You said it, OLT. Should BHO be elected, this Californian will stand his ground and fight right here, on American soil.

450 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:19:08pm

re: #437 David IV of Georgia

All too true, but be of good cheer: recruitment will drop to zero, so we will expose fewer worthy young people to these harebrained schemes.

451 Bosk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:19:33pm

re: #424 Fasternu426
Texas might be a symbol of hope since they kept their right to leave the union if they wanted too. B. Hussien Obama would make me want to the union. B. Hussien Obama would make me "poop"

452 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:20:30pm

re: #438 pyrodoctor

I totally agree. But BO seems to have fewer strings attached than HRC. I think that is why McCain is so abhorred by the hard core Republicans -- because he doesn't respond well to people tugging his strings.

The fact is though, that no matter who wins, we will be in for a Republocrat administration, where the moneyed interests control the show.

HRC runs the Clinton machine. BHO is the big green gassy face in front of Soros' curtain.

Big difference.

Except for the flying monkeys, which I have always admired.

453 jorline  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:21:06pm

If you thought the race card was played during the DNC nomination...you ain't seen nothing yet.

The GOP will tagged as the racist party before November.

454 father_of_10  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:21:24pm

re: #373 wrenchwench

I'm in an undisclosed corner of the state. It's a very long drive from you, in Steve Pearce's district (as you may have guessed). If you bring the kids here.....

Jal? You live in Jal? I'm not bringing my kids down there. It stinks in Jal!

Well, it is in the corner of the state!

455 shibumi  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:21:28pm

re: #439 OldLineTexan

Eff Nobama, I am not going anywhere. I am not a Baldwin or a Sarandon, a poseur and paper tiger with the staying power of a "no food coloring added" Kool-Aid stain. I grew up in the shadow of the Greatest Generation, a group of Americans who really did save the world. How will I be worthy to stand in the presence of my forebears if I surrender their legacy to a tool of the Chicago political machine and George Soros?

Hear hear!

May I also add...it's the duty of every red blooded American to stay in America and do everything they can do stop the liberal/socialist machine and insure a decent future for themselves, their children and their parents.

IMHO

456 calcajun  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:22:18pm

re: #427 Occasional Reader

I

have often been called a Nazi, and although it is unfair, I don't let it bother me. I don't let it bother me for one simple reason. No one has *ever* had a sexual fantasy about being tied to a bed and sexually ravished by someone dressed as a liberal.


--P.J. O'Rourke

457 pyrodoctor  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:22:32pm

re: #452 OldLineTexan

HRC runs the Clinton machine. BHO is the big green gassy face in front of Soros' curtain.

I don't buy that.

458 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:23:00pm

re: #455 shibumi

Hear hear!

May I also add...it's the duty of every red blooded American to stay in America and do everything they can do stop the liberal/socialist machine and insure a decent future for themselves, their children and their parents.

IMHO

Nobody ever leaves anyway. I have offered to chip in on the tickets.

459 wolfie  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:23:07pm

re: #451 Bosk

Texas might be a symbol of hope since they kept their right to leave the union if they wanted too. B. Hussien Obama would make me want to the union. B. Hussien Obama would make me "poop"

Texas kept their right to leave the union?

460 Dianna  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:23:13pm

re: #456 calcajun

That is a great quote, isn't it?

461 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:23:53pm

re: #457 pyrodoctor

I don't buy that.

Fine by me. I'm not selling anything.

/Let me know what you find in the bag if the collective "we" buy Obama.

462 Bosk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:24:44pm

re: #453 jorline
That's exactly why I believe that Mc Cains best choice would be... JC Watts. That would fire up the Conservatives and squash the racist racism of the Commucrats.

463 David IV of Georgia  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:25:13pm

re: #450 OldLineTexan

All too true, but be of good cheer: recruitment will drop to zero, so we will expose fewer worthy young people to these harebrained schemes.

And since most Dems (dim-s?) realize the baby-killers™ are sometimes useful (they can plant flowers and trees and write poetry), they will have to think about a draft, but will label it a Republican scheme as they push it forward.

464 Rageman  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:25:24pm

Imagine Obama, Farakan, Eyers, Rev Wright, Michelle O, Soros all having the control of the government. Scary.

465 NY Nana  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:25:30pm

re: #350 goddessoftheclassroom

That fact flabbergasts me: that neighborhoods were restricted.

It was, in a way, almost endurable, as we lived close to family. I was not aware of it until I was old enough to understand. The Jew hate during WWII I was protected from.

This was the Harvard my boy cousins had to deal with in the late 1940's....they were graduates of Boys Latin, which Kosh mentioned.

There were unwritten restrictions on just how few Jews could be admitted at Harvard and elsewhere.

My oldest male cousin graduated Summa From Harvard..and could not get into the med. school. he went to Tufts, and went on to become a renowned radiologist who never got over the feelings of rejection he had.

When my Mum was pregnant with me in 1937, they went looking for a bigger apartment, in Brighton...and because of the family surname, which my Dad refused to change, and for which I am so proud of him for, the janitor very kindly said that they could not rent there, and told them that no Jews were allowed...he was very sad, my parents told me, when I was about 13, and we were moving.

Our neighborhood, in another part of Brighton, was almost all Jewish, and the Jews of Boston in my day were nearly all of Lithuanian heritage...and our Grans all knew each other. I could not go 2 buildings away from the boundaries I had without my Mum coming to where I was! I thought she had eyes in the back of her head! Later I found out about the Good Old Girls' Network'...someone's mother would see that I was where I was not supposed to be, and call my Mum!

On the serious side? It was not only Boston, nor was it just Harvard. Restrictions were a part of life, in jobs, also.

There were unwritten quotas to keep us out, not to assure we had to be admitted. And we had to be twice as good...

I could not get into the nursing school at either the Mass. General, or the Children's' hospital in Boston, in spite of my grades and recommendations..no Jew allowed in 1955.

I ended up in a Jewish hospital in Brooklyn to train, after having to resign from training at the Beth Israel, in Boston; wicked case of infectious mono. I wanted to make a new start.

BBL...time to get dinner on the table!

466 pyrodoctor  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:25:34pm

re: #462 Bosk

That's exactly why I believe that Mc Cains best choice would be... JC Watts. That would fire up the Conservatives and squash the racist racism of the Commucrats.

I think McCain's best choice would be Lieberman. That would throw a monkey wrench into the party apparati.

467 Dianna  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:25:48pm

re: #462 Bosk

Then we can have the utter hysteria of watching the Dems tie themselves in rhetorical knots trying to argue that BHO is more authentic than Watts.

468 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:25:54pm

re: #459 wolfie

Texas kept their right to leave the union?

Technically, no, that was changed after the Civil War.

We can still split into five states:

North Texas
West Texas
Nuevo Mexico del Norte (formerly South Texas)
Old Texas

and


Austin (Nuevo Berkeley)

469 Bosk  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:25:54pm

re: #459 wolfie
You betcha! Makes me want to move there. Don't know all the particulars but I have read about it several times.

470 hermeneutics  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:26:38pm

re: #439 OldLineTexan

Eff Nobama, I am not going anywhere. I am not a Baldwin or a Sarandon, a poseur and paper tiger with the staying power of a "no food coloring added" Kool-Aid stain. I grew up in the shadow of the Greatest Generation, a group of Americans who really did save the world. How will I be worthy to stand in the presence of my forebears if I surrender their legacy to a tool of the Chicago political machine and George Soros?

I love this. Thanks, OLT. What a patriot.

Still nodding my head and smiling.

Still smiling.

471 DesertSage  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:27:50pm

If we elect a Democrat in this country, I would be able to live with it.

Barack H. Obama is no Democrat....he's an extreme Leftist/Marxist.

If he's elected, it will be a sea change for this country the likes of which we have never experienced before. The United States Of America will be unrecognizable anymore. It will cease to exist in the manner it did for the past 200+ years.

I weep for my country. Literally!

472 maximoso  Tue, Jun 3, 2008 3:28:11pm

When Michael Steel was running for his seat in congess - he got Oreo Cookies tossed at him. re: #390 Dave the.....

NRO had an interestin