She sounds strong. She is laying into anti-semites big time.

she called out the pali's and saudi's on their indoctrination of their children to hate jews

Far out. I am finding myself in agreement with much of what she is saying, especially about Israel. Day late and a dollar short, however.

Is this being broadcast?

Obama gave his speech right before this. Killgore had a link to the text, here. Tough, principled diplomacy!

She even said Islamic terrorists.

Maybe I'll send her some bucks :)

re: #4 Cognito

Is this being broadcast?

FOX News.

re: #4 Cognito

Is this being broadcast?

Every cable news station.

Oh and this may be a little off, but if we give two shits about what Puerto Rico and Samoa have to say in the primaries why don't we give Israel a voice?

CNN and MSNBC didn't see fit to broadcast McCain at AIPAC.

But they do broadcast not just Obama but even the loser Clinton.

Ah, there it is.

i guess this will balance the Dem ticket?

re: #1 mama winger

She sounds strong. She is laying into anti-semites big time.

She talks tough, but like most Democrats nowadays she will never back up her rhetoric with any action.

Cognito:
It is on Fox News Channel

"God Bless Israel"

- HC

Sure she's saying the right things, but did she have an uncle liberate Auschwitz?

re: #14 DesertSage

She talks tough, but like most Democrats nowadays she will never back up her rhetoric with any action.

Obama said he would unextinct the dodo bird. You don't believe him?
/

I'd barely gotten tuned in when she wrapped up the speech. Was it just short?

re: #14 DesertSage

She talks tough, but like most Democrats nowadays she will never back up her rhetoric with any action.

Suburban Chicago upbringing - she would be familiar with Jewish issues. She looked mad enough to tear Obama a new one - even if it meant coming out for the bombing of Iran.

Obama is the tooth fairy!

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

re: #20 Cognito

I'd barely gotten tuned in when she wrapped up the speech. Was it just short?

No. You're just lagging behind.

It's for the children taken to an illogical extreme.

[Link: www.penny-arcade.com...]

re: #19 ploome hineni

..great speech

It was. surprisingly good I thought.

bbl - I have to go to the grocery store and buy supplies for my emergency closet.

Hollow words, can't believe anything that comes out of her Bill hole.

re: #23 mama winger

No. You're just lagging behind.

Ah. Thanks, Mama Winger.

Obama got at best a polite reception.
The reason is because these are informed people.
My fear is that most American Jews will support Obama and then gasp while he subverts Israel.

Wow, where did this Hillary come from?

And she's doing very well for someone who started campaigning for 2012 already.

re: #4 Cognito

Hey Cogs! If you'll enable your e-mail I'll zip you a note....

re: #10 equable

Oh and this may be a little off, but if we give two shits about what Puerto Rico and Samoa have to say in the primaries why don't we give Israel a voice?

Puerto Rico, Guam, the US Virgin Islands and American Samoa are all United States territories, as were Hawai'i and Alaska before they became states and the Panama Canal Zone at the time that John McCain was born there.

In case you had not noticed, Israel is an independent nation.

/idiot.

“I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal.”

re: #27 ploome hineni

/halp

Get dramatic much, obambi?

re: #21 mama winger

Suburban Chicago upbringing - she would be familiar with Jewish issues. She looked mad enough to tear Obama a new one - even if it meant coming out for the bombing of Iran.

While Park Ridge wasn't "restricted" like Lake Forest or Kenilworth ( home to the antisemitic Charles Percy ), it still didn't have many Jews living there.

re: #24 The Other Les

saw that and immediately thought about a middle eastern equivalent. hysterical.

re: #32 StinkHammer

Hey Cogs! If you'll enable your e-mail I'll zip you a note....

Anytime.

re: #19 ploome hineni

..great speech

I could have done without the kiss up to Obama. It ruined it for me.

Listening to Obama, seems like it would be easy to get a tape of him directly contradicting everything he is saying to AIPAC this morning...

re: #17 Sharmuta

Sure she's saying the right things, but did she have an uncle liberate Auschwitz?

My uncle watches too much TV and drinks too much beer.

Anybody know if this is at foxnews.com? I dont have cable!

Mark my words;;;;

behind the scenes the Clinton machine will do whatever they can to see that BHO loses and loses BIG TIME.

McCain might only want 1 term.

Losers don't get renominated Just ask Mondale, Dukakis, Dole and John Effing Carry.

Hillary will position herself for the nomination in 4 years and her peeps will sabotage BHO's chances in November.

Hillary is much better at this stuff than Obama. But I forgot that the history of civilization began when he was born. That changes everything.

cant find it online

re: #45 nihilist

cant find it online

It's over.

re: #17 Sharmuta

Sure she's saying the right things, but did she have an uncle liberate Auschwitz?

ONly if the uncle was a Russian communist. Aushwitz is in Poland and it was liberated by the Soviets. US troops never went farther than Berlin.

darn, thanks anyway

re: #18 VegasRick

Hillary and Obama are talking tough. This is the first time in the campaign that I've heard them both talk with such harsh rhetoric toward rogue nations and terrorist supporters.

It's all a bunch of bullshit. Democrats have been trying to surrender for years. I don't trust either of them.
I don't forget easily.

it sounded like something i had to hear to believe!

bill had 8 years to move the u.s. embassy from tel aviv to Jerusalem and did not do it.

actions mean something words not so much.

A good speech, much better than Barry's, but talk is cheap.

re: #35 VegasRick

“I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal.”

And they will send back a terminator to stop the nonsense, because they got stuck with the bill.

re: #40 tradewind

Listening to Obama, seems like it would be easy to get a tape of him directly contradicting everything he is saying to AIPAC this morning...

Here's one:

Remember when he referred to the conflict between Israel and its neighbors as a "constant sore", (but it doesn't take much to see that he really meant Israel).

He must have had a waffle since then, because this is what he said in today's speech:

The question is how to move forward. There are those who would continue and intensify this failed status quo, ignoring eight years of accumulated evidence that our foreign policy is dangerously flawed. And then there are those who would lay all of the problems of the Middle East at the doorstep of Israel and its supporters, as if the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is the root of all trouble in the region. These voices blame the Middle East’s only democracy for the region’s extremism. They offer the false promise that abandoning a stalwart ally is somehow the path to strength. It is not, it never has been, and it never will be.

Well, B. Hussein, didn't you say the conflict is a "constant sore"? Didn't you actually put the blame there?

re: #43 Shug

Yes, it's the subject of her new book, ' It Takes Burning a Village'**

**to save it.

re: #35 VegasRick

“I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal.”

Get dramatic much, obambi?

When King Canute's fawning courtiers told him the very tides would obey his word, he had his throne set down on the beach to prove then wrong. When the Obamessiah's fawning courtiers tell him basically then same thing, he believes them.

re: #34 ploome hineni

better sooner than later

the Jewish community in America, and the CHristians in AMerica need a good smack to wake the up, about the catastrophe of Obamination

True, but the MSM will scrupulously avoid being objective.
Obama campaigning for the murderous Islamist Odinga for President of Kenya.
The media wants no part of it. The public needs to be aware of these things.

Maybe McCain should make Hillary his Secretary of State...

#33 galloping granny:

Yes I understand this and am well-informed about these matters. I was just positing that since Israel's present and future (existence, for that matter) hinge very much on what our President's stance is, and since they're one of very few true allies we actually have we should lend more credence to what they have to say.

No need to call me an idiot. Get over yourself.

re: #53 buzzsawmonkey

See my #49.

Fixed it for you.

Obama's speech was straight out of- Making a speech to pro Israel supporters for Dummies- if there is such a book.

Every freakin cliche in the book.

No mention of his long association and support of anti Israel activists.

I wonder what those old friends of his are thinking. Betrayal or knowing winks.

Before I go - just saw this at American Thinker:

DVD of Michelle Obama in a rant against the Clintons at an event that included Farrakhan's wife? Supposedly available thru TUCC website before March '08?

[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]

For about 30 minutes, Michelle Obama launched into a rant about the evils of America, and how America is to blame for the problems of Africa. Michelle personally blamed President Clinton for the deaths of millions of Africans and said America is responsible for the genocide of the Tutsis and other ethnic groups. She then launched into an attack on "whitey", and talked about solutions to black on black crime in the realm of diverting those actions onto white America. Her rant was fueled by the crowd: they reacted strongly to what she said, so she got more passionate and enraged, and that's when she completely loses it and says things that have made the mouths drop of everyone who's seen this.

[Link: hillbuzz.blogspot.com...]

Here's what's known so far:

The Michelle Obama Rant Tape was filmed between June 26th - July 1st 2004 in Chicago, IL at the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition Conference at Trinity United Church: specifically the Women's Event.

Michelle Obama appeared as a panelist alongside Mrs. Khadijah Farrakhan and Mrs. James Meeks.

Bill Clinton spoke during the Conference, as did Bill Cosby and other speakers, but not at the panel Michelle attended.

Michelle Obama spoke at the Women's Event, but referenced Bill Clinton in her rant --- his presence at the conference was the impetus for her raving, it seems.

Remember MOST democrats were on record during the Clinton years to TOPPLE SADDAM!

Pres. Clinton made it US policy to seek regime change in Iraq.

(Course they didn't intend to do anything about it but talk about CHANGE, which is par for their course)

re: #57 jcm

I'm afraid to click on the new link, think I'm gonna hurl.

VP announcement for McCain, maybe?

Carter endorses Obama. Enough said.

Same Hillary...different spin...the 2012 tough version for "middle America"!

Too bad Lieberman's not younger..... McCain could put him on the ticket in the spirit of true bipartisanship (along with a big middle finger to the Dems at the same time).

re: #70 BrianA

Carter endorses Obama. Enough said.

So does Castro.

McCain's Running Mate?

re: #47 galloping granny

re: #17 Sharmuta

Sure she's saying the right things, but did she have an uncle liberate Auschwitz?

ONly if the uncle was a Russian communist. Aushwitz is in Poland and it was liberated by the Soviets. US troops never went farther than Berlin.

Sharmuta's quip was sarcasm, a riff on Obama claiming his uncle helped liberate Auschwitz.

re: #62 experiencedtraveller

Maybe McCain should make Hillary his Secretary of State...

* * *
Yes, after all, Pres. Clinton made McCain's best man, weak William Cohen (R-Maine) his Secretary of Defense!

This is the same woman who stood on the stage with Arafat's wife, hugging and kissing her. Bill welcomed Arafat to the White House. (Was that before or after the Nobel Committee gave Arafat his peace prize? If Arafat had only behaved, Bill would have gotten one too!)

This speech proves only the ancient maxim: The Clintons will tell any audience whatever it wants to hear. And only fools believe in their sincerity. Care to count up the amount of Arab money contributed to the Clinton Library? Care to count up the cash "prizes" given to Hillary by Arab governments? The Arabs bought the Clintons long ago.

Newt has been quietly positioning himself for a 2012 presidential bid. It would be interesting to see Gingrich debate Hillary in 2012. By the way, couldn't Bill Clinton run for president if he wanted? I thought the law stated no more than two consecutive terms as the president.

re: #76 Spiny Norman

Sharmuta's quip was sarcasm, a riff on Obama claiming his uncle helped liberate Auschwitz.

I know that. That is exactly my point. Obama's uncle only liberated Auschwitz - or Birkenau for that matter - if he was serving in the Soviet army. US military was nowhere near the liberation of either place.

re: #74 VegasRick

Maybe we'll get a screen shot at the convention of Carter in a keffiyah, hugging Obama, then juxtapose it of one with Hillary kissing Suha Arafat.
Now THAT'd make a nice poster.

so she's already running for VP, or co president, and what better way to start than lying to a big constituency to try to get their votes. Hillary, and the rest of the Dems, will say ANYTHING. Fool me once. . . .

re: #79 LoFlyer

Newt has been quietly positioning himself for a 2012 presidential bid. It would be interesting to see Gingrich debate Hillary in 2012. By the way, couldn't Bill Clinton run for president if he wanted? I thought the law stated no more than two consecutive terms as the president.

No, mercifully, it is only two terms...

re: #79 LoFlyer

Newt has been quietly positioning himself for a 2012 presidential bid. It would be interesting to see Gingrich debate Hillary in 2012. By the way, couldn't Bill Clinton run for president if he wanted? I thought the law stated no more than two consecutive terms as the president.

No, the kiddo and I looked that up a few weeks back. The amendment specifically states two terms total, not two consecutive terms and stipulates that even a partial term served when a VP steps into the Presidency counts as one of the two.

re: #72 tradewind

Too bad Lieberman's not younger..... McCain could put him on the ticket in the spirit of true bipartisanship (along with a big middle finger to the Dems at the same time).

* * *
Albert Gore should endorse McCain already.
But then Al Gore endorsed Howard Dean in 2004.

re: #2 phoenixgirl

She is all talk and no action. She is another lying Democrat

You have to love the drama of Hillary's people shoving her down Obama's throat (figuratively) for veep.....if he takes her, he ramps up the wuss/no balls factor, if he doesn't, he's a misogynist ignoring the votes of 18 million+ angry Dems.

G'mornin' Lizardia!
Manohman is this interesting. BHO is so-semetic sounding, as is Hillary. Yet, there is so much evidence that both have voiced anti-Israel sentiments over the last few years. My guess is that it will all come out soon. BHO has been a proud Pali-supporter and Hill (not going to be VP - my opinion) has been too close to George Soros to be anything but anti-Israel. Both are pandering to AIPAC votes. It won't fly.

re: #4 Cognito

C-SPAN

Whoo hoo! McCain calling out Obama again.....

I'm hoping Hillary will be Obama's Michael Myers. Just when you think she's dead, she comes back to life and inflicts even more damage...

re: #91 jill e
I don't even think TOD's been called on her yet.... there are long months and many radical pastors to go between now and Denver, and the superdelegates can undo all of this.
Not that they have the cajones to do it.

re: #37 Kefirah

saw that and immediately thought about a middle eastern equivalent. hysterical.

I need not guess what that donation is going to buy. Right?

re: #72 tradewind

Too bad Lieberman's not younger..... McCain could put him on the ticket in the spirit of true bipartisanship (along with a big middle finger to the Dems at the same time).

Personally, I'm only in favor of one of those two things these days.
The merits of bipartisanship depend on those of the other party, and I don't see the democrats having much merit lately.

re: #38 Cognito

Incoming.

(And outgoing.)

#78 quickjustice 6/04/08 8:45:41 am reply quote 0

This is the same woman who stood on the stage with Arafat's wife, hugging and kissing her. Bill welcomed Arafat to the White House. (Was that before or after the Nobel Committee gave Arafat his peace prize? If Arafat had only behaved, Bill would have gotten one too!)

And this somewhat different than Assad, Abbas, Fayad standing with the likes of Bush, McCain, Blair, Rice, Cheney?

How's the Lybian kool-aid nowadays?

re: #27 ploome hineni

/halp

Ploome - You're always crackin' me up!

She sounded a lot more presidential than Nobama

re: #30 opnion

You are absolutely right. They are more afraid of not looking racist that the survival of Israel.

re: #66 mama winger

If the tape in fact exists, we can expect Obama to throw his wife under the bus, I guess.

Whatever the audiance, both Barak and Hillery will have a special designer speech to match.

re: #96 akak

Conceding that Carter, Reagan, Bush I, Clinton, and Bush II have made diplomatic efforts to engage Israel's enemies, your point still falls flat. Clinton's diplomatic effort to engage Arafat failed miserably, embarrassing him. And after the Clintons left office, they then began pocketing large amounts of Arab cash for the Clinton library, Clinton Foundation, and for Bill's and Hillary's "speeches".

Diplomatic necessity didn't drive Clinton's post White House "engagement" with the Arabs, benefiting the Clintons, their library, and their "charities" to the tune of millions. What did the Clintons promise the Arabs in exchange?

Hillary sure made a great speech at AIPAC, didn't she, guys? ;-)

re: #51 ploome hineni

essentally, Jews are a normal part of Chicago society, and in that sense part of her experience

whereas Obamination growing up in Indonesia or Hawaii......not the same

Linda Lingle, the current Governor of Hawaii is Jewish...

Who?

re: #105 ploome hineni

Like everything Clinton, you can count on their double-dealing you. With his teflon fabrications going unchallenged by the MSM, Barack Obama has actually out-Clintoned the Clintons.

McCain thus far is strategically incoherent. He challenges Obama on meeting with foreign enemies when many U.S. leaders have met with foreign enemies. He attacks Bush and Cheney for their energy policy without saying why. I'm a Republican, and I don't understand McCain's message.

Given McCain's inability to communicate a clear strategic message that resonates with the American people, Obama's eloquence and charisma, however empty, will get him elected president.

re: #30 opnion

Obama got at best a polite reception.

Obama actually got an enthusiastic reception at AIPAC.
(I was there.)
He has honed his message and undoubtedly will be able to sway the many Jews who would rather believe in the great Blank Slate than vote for a Republican (horrors!) whose record of support for Israel is virtually unassailable.

quickjustice

When you make deals with a terrorist and or their supporters you join their ranks, which in turn makes you an enemy combatant.

"Thou shall not lie or dissimilate (tagyyeh), deceive or cheat (ketman) unless they serve a higher purpose."