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The Protocols of the Daily Kos

Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 9:22:32 am PDT

At Daily Kos, the denizens are discussing whether Barack Obama has fallen under the spell of the “Zionist Lobby:” Daily Kos: Obama’s Speech at AIPAC: A New Concession to the Zionist Lobby?

Obama gave possibly the most vaunted foreign policy speech today at the AIPAC conference. He’s once again reiterating and repeating his committment to Israel’ security and well being as well as his belief in the historical bound between the US and the Jewish state. Remarkably, he also promised that Jerusalem will become Israel’s capital, something that unheard of from Hillary, Bill Clinton, and even the Bushes. In terms of Iran, Obama promised to use a strong diplomacy and no longer applying the word “unconditional” dialogues with the Mullah’s regime. Instead, he would carefully set up a preparation before engaging with it and only when Iran will not become a threat to the state of Israel (it sounds like a conditionality to me).  

Obama’s speech today is, unquestionably, a beautiful music for Israel and the Jewish lobby, while giving a sense of deja vu for the Palestinians and, most probably, an anti climax message to the Muslim world. It seems that it would be delusional now to expect a different trajectory for the six decades Israeli-Palestinian conflict after listening to the speech. If anything, the speech will send a strong message for the people in the Mideast to prepare for another eight years of continuous violence.  

It’s revealing to me that even a Presidential candidate whose main credential and strongest message is about change could only go so far when it comes to foreign policy related with Israel and the Mideast. If the AIPAC speech will become Obama’s policy blue print for the Mideast in the next eight years, I would argue that there will be no significant and real change in terms of conflict resolutions and the relationship between the Arab and Muslim world with the US.

(Hat tip: BFSkinner.)

UPDATE at 6/4/08 9:34:43 am:

And another anti-Israel, pro-Obama diary sums up the speeches to AIPAC as: Daily Kos: Three Candidates Falling Over Each Other To Kiss AIPAC’s Ass.

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1 victor_yugo  6/04/08 9:23:42 am reply quote

So, which is it?

Obama is a suck-up to anti-Semites?

or

Obama is a Zionist?

2 Ward Cleaver  6/04/08 9:23:43 am reply quote

"Fallen under the spell?" Don't bet on it.

3 Sizzlack  6/04/08 9:24:01 am reply quote

Well we know the General Election is here when in the span of 24 hours Obama has moved to the center on Israel. The moonies must be sh*tting bricks right now.

4 thedopefishlives  6/04/08 9:24:08 am reply quote

Has it ever occurred to any of them that he's just saying what he thinks will get him elected? We all know what his agenda is; his actions speak louder than words.

5 WriterMom  6/04/08 9:24:27 am reply quote

THE ZIONIST HAIR BEAMS STRIKE AGAIN!

6 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  6/04/08 9:25:40 am reply quote

The biggest suckup the ME could ever dream for just got the nomination and they're worried he wont suck up enough.

7 VegasRick  6/04/08 9:26:01 am reply quote

How do these people even tie their shoes?

8 Killgore Trout  6/04/08 9:26:08 am reply quote
Obama’s speech today is, unquestionably, a beautiful music for Israel and the Jewish lobby, while giving a sense of deja vu for the Palestinians and, most probably, an anti climax message to the Muslim world


I wonder if there will be a shortage of volunteers at Obama's call centers in Gaza.

9 LoFlyer  6/04/08 9:26:20 am reply quote

Obama talks big about supporting Israel when he is talking to a room full of Jews, what does he say in a room full Muslims?

10 saberry0530  6/04/08 9:26:21 am reply quote

re: #1 victor_yugo

So, which is it?

Obama is a suck-up to anti-Semites?

or

Obama is a Zionist?

What day of the week is it?

11 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  6/04/08 9:26:46 am reply quote

re: #7 VegasRick

How do these people even tie their shoes?

Birkenstocks dont have laces

12 VegasRick  6/04/08 9:27:10 am reply quote

re: #9 LoFlyer

Obama talks big about supporting Israel when he is talking to a room full of Jews, what does he say in a room full Muslims?

allah ackbar?
/

13 Ward Cleaver  6/04/08 9:27:15 am reply quote

re: #5 WriterMom

THE ZIONIST HAIR BEAMS STRIKE AGAIN!

Their Hair-Ray Fu is strong!

/was babbazee there?

14 BGB!  6/04/08 9:27:16 am reply quote

These people are just sick :8

15 VegasRick  6/04/08 9:27:26 am reply quote

re: #11 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Birkenstocks dont have laces

Right!

16 uncle_monkey  6/04/08 9:27:33 am reply quote

A politician pander?
Oh, the humanity.

17 The Other Les  6/04/08 9:27:54 am reply quote

re: #10 saberry0530

What day of the week is it?

Which way is the wind blowing?

18 JohnnyReb  6/04/08 9:28:02 am reply quote

He is just like any other politician, he doesn't believe a single word of what he is saying. He is just saying it to get the votes.

19 Sharmuta  6/04/08 9:28:08 am reply quote
If anything, the speech will send a strong message for the people in the Mideast to prepare for another eight years of continuous violence.

First- your precious obama hasn't won the White House yet- he doesn't have 4 years, much less eight.

Second- the people of the middle east better prepare for an eternity of continuous violence because it's in their koran.

20 TrollBot PrtoType Six  6/04/08 9:28:12 am reply quote

re: #7 VegasRick

How do these people even tie their shoes?

Velcro

21 saberry0530  6/04/08 9:28:56 am reply quote

re: #17 The Other Les

Which way is the wind blowing?

(wets finger and raises it into the air)

22 Fat Jolly Penguin  6/04/08 9:29:01 am reply quote

re: #18 JohnnyReb

He is just like any other politician, he doesn't believe a single word of what he is saying. He is just saying it to get the votes.

Yet inevitably, a few shreds of honesty slip through. Can we say "bitter"?

23 jamgarr  6/04/08 9:29:15 am reply quote

once again reiterating and repeating

Damn, how many times would that be?!

24 Honorary Yooper  6/04/08 9:29:22 am reply quote

re: #4 thedopefishlives

Has it ever occurred to any of them that he's just saying what he thinks will get him elected? We all know what his agenda is; his actions speak louder than words.

No, common sense does not penetrate tin foil.

25 Maine's Michael  6/04/08 9:29:34 am reply quote
Obama’s speech today is, unquestionably, a beautiful music for Israel and the Jewish lobby, while giving a sense of deja vu for the Palestinians and, most probably, an anti climax message to the Muslim world.

Last I checked, the Palestinians, and the rest of teh Arab world, were not going to be voting for the POTUS in November.

Members of the American Jewish Community, however, will be.

American democracy sucks, if you're an Arab, or Jew hater. Tough shit.

26 Sizzlack  6/04/08 9:29:45 am reply quote

re: #11 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Birkenstocks dont have laces

no shoes, they go barefoot....you don't know how much pain footsteps inflict on mother earth

27 Ward Cleaver  6/04/08 9:29:45 am reply quote

re: #22 Fat Jolly Penguin

Yet inevitably, a few shreds of honesty slip through. Can we say "bitter"?

Guns & Moses?

28 Honorary Yooper  6/04/08 9:30:19 am reply quote

re: #7 VegasRick

How do these people even tie their shoes?

They wear shoes? Thought they were in their parents' basements all damn day long.

29 thedopefishlives  6/04/08 9:30:50 am reply quote

re: #24 Honorary Yooper

No, common sense does not penetrate tin foil.

Ah, very good point.

Come to think of it, that sounds like a great rotating title.

30 gman  6/04/08 9:31:08 am reply quote

They wanted change and now they're getting it.....
courtesy of the Waffler

31 Maine's Michael  6/04/08 9:31:18 am reply quote

re: #9 LoFlyer

Obama talks big about supporting Israel when he is talking to a room full of Jews, what does he say in a room full Muslims?

We'll find out soon enough.

These little secrets don't stay hidden in a Presidential election.

32 JohnnyReb  6/04/08 9:31:30 am reply quote

re: #22 Fat Jolly Penguin

Yet inevitably, a few shreds of honesty slip through. Can we say "bitter"?


Well there was that little bit of honesty in SF true. But overall he is nothing but a bunch of typical politician sound bytes.

33 Occasional Reader  6/04/08 9:31:31 am reply quote
gave possibly the most vaunted foreign policy speech

I think this Jew-hating fool doesn't really know what the word "vaunted" means.

34 Fat Jolly Penguin  6/04/08 9:31:36 am reply quote

re: #27 Ward Cleaver

Guns & Moses?

Yeppers.

BBIAB

35 The Other Les  6/04/08 9:31:50 am reply quote

re: #26 Sizzlack

no shoes, they go barefoot....you don't know how much pain footsteps inflict on mother earth

Cthulhu has a program for reducing the pain that Mother Earth from the pressure of Human feet.

Yum. Yum.

36 tfc3rid  6/04/08 9:31:58 am reply quote

Obama is an undercover NeoCon!

Rove, you magnificent bastard!

37 NJDhockeyfan  6/04/08 9:32:06 am reply quote
38 MandyManners  6/04/08 9:32:16 am reply quote

I reckon the only kind of change this dip-shit wants is the eradication of Israel.

39 gman  6/04/08 9:32:18 am reply quote

Yes indeed, be ready for change from one day to the next. It will be nonstop change.

40 The Other Les  6/04/08 9:32:39 am reply quote

re: #28 Honorary Yooper

They wear shoes? Thought they were in their parents' basements all damn day long.

Concrete floors are pretty cold. Especially in winter.

41 Honorary Yooper  6/04/08 9:32:46 am reply quote

re: #37 NJDhockeyfan

This one is still up:

42 Sharmuta  6/04/08 9:32:48 am reply quote

re: #30 gman

They wanted change and now they're getting it.....
courtesy of the Waffler

LOL! Typical progressives. It wasn't the change they wanted so it's bad.

43 Sizzlack  6/04/08 9:33:06 am reply quote

re: #35 The Other Les

Cthulhu has a program for reducing the pain that Mother Earth from the pressure of Human feet.

Yum. Yum.

that must be why they call it a carbon footprint...evil evil footprints they are

44 WriterMom  6/04/08 9:33:08 am reply quote

re: #11 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Hey! Neither do Naot's but they are gracing my feet today...

45 Iron Fist  6/04/08 9:33:11 am reply quote

What did they expect him to say? "As President, I will give Amidinijad a green light to scrape Israel off into the Med!"? That is what these moonbats want to hear.

46 mickthemick  6/04/08 9:33:29 am reply quote
Obama’s speech today is, unquestionably, a beautiful music for Israel and the Jewish lobby, while giving a sense of deja vu for the Palestinians and, most probably, an anti climax message to the Muslim world.

Aw, heck, Kos....the 'Ummah woulda' just found something else to whine and seethe about. And the (so-called) 'Palestinians' would have continued to find new, never-before-realized opportunities to miss opportunities.

47 faraway  6/04/08 9:33:29 am reply quote

The reason Obama beat is Hillary is because he stole her healthcare plan.

Obama will now neuter McCain by stealing most of his ideas.

Simple formula really.

48 Who Watches the Watchmen?  6/04/08 9:33:48 am reply quote

He made a campaign speech to a special interest group. What did those whack jobs think he was going to say to AIPAC?

49 TallTexan  6/04/08 9:34:13 am reply quote

I have never seen a picture of Obama and Rove together: QED* they must be the same guy!


*QED- Quad Erat Democratis -- Thus proven to moonbats

50 tfc3rid  6/04/08 9:34:23 am reply quote

re: #48 Who Watches the Watchmen?

He made a campaign speech to a special interest group. What did those whack jobs think he was going to say to AIPAC?

But I thought that Obama was above kowtowing to Special Interest groups...

51 The Other Les  6/04/08 9:34:26 am reply quote

re: #43 Sizzlack

Why do I keep missing words when I type?

52 Honorary Yooper  6/04/08 9:34:40 am reply quote

re: #47 faraway

The reason Obama beat is Hillary is because he stole her healthcare plan.

Obama will now neuter McCain by stealing most of his ideas.

Simple formula really.

OK, then Obama can start drilling for oil. And I don't mean in a few years, I mean right now, this very second.

Wait, didn't he vote against that?

53 Sizzlack  6/04/08 9:34:55 am reply quote

re: #47 faraway

54 Occasional Reader  6/04/08 9:35:14 am reply quote

re: #35 The Other Les

Cthulhu has a program for reducing the pain that Mother Earth from the pressure of Human feet.

Yum. Yum.

Cthulu was in favor of reducing human carbon footprints WAY before it was cool. He veritably defines "progressive".

55 tfc3rid  6/04/08 9:35:20 am reply quote

re: #52 Honorary Yooper

I think he voted 'Present'

56 Maine's Michael  6/04/08 9:35:23 am reply quote

re: #45 Iron Fist

What did they expect him to say? "As President, I will give Amidinijad a green light to scrape Israel off into the Med!"? That is what these moonbats want to hear.

He wouldn' t have to say that. Lot's of code words he could use.

He's used them before, on this subject.

He's full of shit.

He and Michele can almost taste dinner on the White House crockery.

57 Kosh's Shadow  6/04/08 9:35:42 am reply quote

re: #17 The Other Les

Which way is the wind blowing?

You don't need to be a weatherman to know the way the wind blows.

Just ask Ayers.

58 mickthemick  6/04/08 9:35:48 am reply quote
It’s revealing to me that even a Presidential candidate whose main credential and strongest message is about change could only go so far when it comes to foreign policy related with Israel and the Mideast.

It's revealing to me that you care so much about what the Islamic world thinks.

59 Sizzlack  6/04/08 9:35:51 am reply quote

re: #47 faraway

Obama, McCain, the word neutering....bad image in my head

60 Ward Cleaver  6/04/08 9:35:54 am reply quote

re: #28 Honorary Yooper

They wear shoes? Thought they were in their parents' basements all damn day long.

Hey, they can open a bag of Cheetos!

/with their teeth

61 Equable  6/04/08 9:36:32 am reply quote

That's politics for you. It's tantamount to sexing up your resume only to bork the job you're going after.

62 Spiny Norman  6/04/08 9:36:43 am reply quote
At Daily Kos, the denizens are discussing whether Barack Obama has fallen under the spell of the “Zionist Lobby

Shrieks the Koslings:

Obamessiah is consorting with the ENEMY! Somebody stop him! Ayyyyeeee!
63 tfc3rid  6/04/08 9:36:49 am reply quote

re: #58 mickthemick

It's revealing to me that you care so much about what the Islamic world thinks.

Well, we aren't liked by the rest of the world because we insanely decided to rid the planet of two bad regimes and liberate 25 Million people...

So we clearly now have to elect someone who will 'restore' out 'image' to the rest of the world...

64 Occasional Reader  6/04/08 9:37:01 am reply quote

re: #49 TallTexan

QED- Quad Quod Erat Democratis Demonstrandum

65 WriterMom  6/04/08 9:37:02 am reply quote

re: #8 Killgore Trout

an anti climax message to the Muslim world

My first thought is EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW pass the brain bleach. The words climax and Muslim world just do not work for me in the same sentence.

My second thought is...hmmm what would Obama's 'climax' message be to the Muslim world?

Hmmm? Hmmmm?

66 Ward Cleaver  6/04/08 9:37:02 am reply quote

re: #56 Maine's Michael

He wouldn' t have to say that. Lot's of code words he could use.

He's used them before, on this subject.

He's full of shit.

He and Michele can almost taste dinner on the White House crockery.

Hugo Chavez snoring in the Lincoln bedroom.

67 The Other Les  6/04/08 9:37:06 am reply quote

re: #54 Occasional Reader

Cthulu was in favor of reducing human carbon footprints WAY before it was cool. He veritably defines "progressive".

Cthulhu approves!

[Link: www.macguff.fr...]

68 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  6/04/08 9:37:11 am reply quote

re: #52 Honorary Yooper

OK, then Obama can start drilling for oil. And I don't mean in a few years, I mean right now, this very second.

Wait, didn't he vote against that?

Bringing up Barry's voting record is off limits.

69 Sharmuta  6/04/08 9:37:16 am reply quote

kosling says:

Three Candidates Falling Over Each Other To Kiss AIPAC’s Ass

And We Wonder Why Nothing Changes.

Hey- you're the dumbasses believing this "CHANGE" crap.

70 thedopefishlives  6/04/08 9:37:37 am reply quote

re: #62 Spiny Norman

Which enemy? Fox News?

/

71 WriterMom  6/04/08 9:37:38 am reply quote

re: #56 Maine's Michael

"I get why Hamas digs me."

72 Ward Cleaver  6/04/08 9:37:55 am reply quote

re: #68 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Bringing up Barry's voting record is off limits.

Who needs oil? We'll all ride the bus.

73 tfc3rid  6/04/08 9:38:07 am reply quote

re: #68 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Bringing up Barry's voting record is off limits.

But you know damn well that bringing up John McCain's record is completely fine...

74 tfc3rid  6/04/08 9:38:28 am reply quote

re: #72 Ward Cleaver

Who needs oil? We'll all ride the bus.

Under the bus, you mean...

75 FishFearMe  6/04/08 9:38:44 am reply quote

re: #60 Ward Cleaver

Hey, they can open a bag of Cheetos!

/with their teeth

Both teeth?

76 Ward Cleaver  6/04/08 9:38:51 am reply quote

re: #72 Ward Cleaver

Who needs oil? We'll all ride under the bus.

Fixed my own.

77 addison  6/04/08 9:38:51 am reply quote
If the AIPAC speech will become Obama’s policy blue print for the Mideast in the next eight years, I would argue that there will be no significant and real change in terms of conflict resolutions and the relationship between the Arab and Muslim world with the US.

- The author writes as though an Obama election and re-election win are foregone conclusions. A bit hubristic?

- The premise of their entire argument is wrong. Perhaps the day Palestinians stop rearing their children with the belief that the highest calling available is the murder of Jews, then, and only then, will there be the first steps to a resolution. Let's be clear, the government (as it were) that runs the 'Palestinian' areas has a map of itself that includes Israel proper. They do not officially recognize something before their eyes.

Maybe starting there would be better than petulantly kvetching about a speech at AIPAC. Has the author ever spared so much virtual ink for those murdered by Hamas and Al-Aqsa?

78 The Other Les  6/04/08 9:39:02 am reply quote

re: #72 Ward Cleaver

Who needs oil? We'll all ride the bus.

Did the idiot who originally said ever figure it out?

79 saberry0530  6/04/08 9:39:15 am reply quote

re: #72 Ward Cleaver

Who needs oil? We'll all get run over by ride the bus.

thats better....

80 VegasRick  6/04/08 9:39:17 am reply quote

re: #68 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Bringing up Barry's voting record is off limits.

It's racist.
/

81 Killgore Trout  6/04/08 9:39:46 am reply quote

re: #41 Honorary Yooper

They've improved, The Koskidz used to be much worse.

82 maddogg  6/04/08 9:39:48 am reply quote

The road to the White House paved with Palestinian bodies?

Well, at least the Palis are gonna have a lot of company under that Greyhound :)

83 Opinionated  6/04/08 9:39:53 am reply quote

Obama went so overboard in lying of his support for Israel.

Even going so far as to promise a policy of supporting an undivided Jerusalem.

Is there a human being with a functioning brain anywhere who would believe that promise from Obama.

If he lied about Jerusalem, then he lied about everything.

Lies you can believe in.

84 rusty_armor  6/04/08 9:39:55 am reply quote

... The scary thing for me is that we don't know which way Obama swings on the security of Israel. You can bet that his resolve or lack of resolve on the issue will be tested.

My money is on his abandoning Israel once he is elected.

85 bald headed geek  6/04/08 9:39:59 am reply quote

re: #2 Ward Cleaver

Agreed. I don't trust Obama as far as I can throw him on the subject of Israel.

BHG

86 conservativeChick  6/04/08 9:40:05 am reply quote

Wait who said this now? Kos or the Muslims because its getting harder for me to tell each other apart.

87 BFSkinner  6/04/08 9:40:11 am reply quote

He did call for a two state resolution (0 / 0)
and Obama was also critical of the continued settlement building.

However, I did listen to the whole speech to AIPAC, and this diary has it mostly correct. Obama's proposed policy is largely a continuation of a misguided and unrealistic Mideast policy. Why in the world would any Arab country want to fully recognize Israel, when Israel itself refuses to recognize a free and democratic Palestinian country.

And why does Obama seem tp place all the blame for the killings of civilians in this conflict on Hamas? Most of the civilian killings in the Mideast has been the result of American and Israeli state terrorism.

88 Kosh's Shadow  6/04/08 9:40:54 am reply quote

re: #74 tfc3rid

Under the bus, you mean...

So how big is Obama's bus' carbon footprint?

89 Occasional Reader  6/04/08 9:41:34 am reply quote

re: #87 BFSkinner

Um, you're quoting a Kosling, right?

90 Ward Cleaver  6/04/08 9:41:52 am reply quote

re: #69 Sharmuta

kosling says:

Hey- you're the dumbasses believing this "CHANGE" crap.

Kos Kidz: pwned by Obama.

91 BFSkinner  6/04/08 9:42:17 am reply quote

re: #89 Occasional Reader

Um, you're quoting a Kosling, right?

Of course.

92 Ward Cleaver  6/04/08 9:42:19 am reply quote

re: #88 Kosh's Shadow

So how big is Obama's bus' carbon footprint?

Enormous. Like Rosie's butt.

93 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  6/04/08 9:43:03 am reply quote

Obama to the Kossacks:

"I got the nomination, bitches. Say hi to my Granny and Pastor while you're down there." /swerves the bus hard right

94 sadhu  6/04/08 9:43:05 am reply quote

@BFSkinner

?

95 Opinionated  6/04/08 9:43:23 am reply quote

So here is Senator Obama, in his own words.

From Dreams of My Father: "I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites."

From Dreams of My Father : "I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother's race."

From Dreams of My Father: "There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white."

From Dreams of My Father: "It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names."

From Dreams of My Father: "I never emulated white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa , that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, DuBois and Mandela."

From Audacity of Hope: "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

[Link: www.carolineglick.com...]

96 sadhu  6/04/08 9:43:35 am reply quote

@BFSkinner -- thanks for clarifying

97 Spiny Norman  6/04/08 9:43:36 am reply quote

re: #83 Opinionated

Lies you can believe in.

Ooh! I like it!

I want this bumper sticker: Obama08 - Lies you can believe in!

98 Ward Cleaver  6/04/08 9:43:56 am reply quote

re: #93 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Obama to the Kossacks:

"I got the nomination, bitches bitchez. Say hi to my Granny and Pastor while you're down there." /swerves the bus hard right

Fixed.

99 tfc3rid  6/04/08 9:44:00 am reply quote

re: #95 Opinionated

We've aleady been down the road with some of those quotes earlier this week...

Some are not true...

100 leboaz  6/04/08 9:44:44 am reply quote

what, exactly, is "the Zionist Lobby"?

101 Pawn of the Oppressor  6/04/08 9:45:04 am reply quote

Those pesky Jews. Shut up and die already!

/

Call me when they start sniffing around the ten Arab oil dollars that flow into government and education for every dime of "Jewish" money...

102 paxnhymn  6/04/08 9:45:33 am reply quote

re: #99 tfc3rid

We've aleady been down the road with some of those quotes earlier this week...

Some are not true...

hell, I missed that! which one? just gimmmee the numbers off 99...

103 VegasRick  6/04/08 9:45:36 am reply quote

re: #97 Spiny Norman

Ooh! I like it!

I want this bumper sticker: Obama08 - Lies you can believe in!

That is good.

104 Pawn of the Oppressor  6/04/08 9:45:49 am reply quote

re: #100 leboaz

what, exactly, is "the Zionist Lobby"?

Jews who wish to exist.

105 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  6/04/08 9:45:52 am reply quote

re: #100 leboaz

what, exactly, is "the Zionist Lobby"?

It a nice little reception room with seltzers where you wait before you get called into to see the Zionist overlords

106 BFSkinner  6/04/08 9:45:58 am reply quote

re: #100 leboaz

what, exactly, is "the Zionist Lobby"?


LOL.

He originally had the "Jewish Lobby" but then he got grief when people complained about a lobby at a deli. So he switched it to the evil "Zionist lobby"

107 Ward Cleaver  6/04/08 9:46:10 am reply quote

re: #97 Spiny Norman

Ooh! I like it!

I want this bumper sticker: Obama08 - Lies you can believe in!

Two big thumbs up.

HP used to make "bumper sticker" paper that you could use with a printer to make your own adhesive bumper stickers, I think that Office Depot or somebody like that sells their own kind.

108 SlartyBartfast  6/04/08 9:46:22 am reply quote

re: #4 thedopefishlives

Has it ever occurred to any of them that he's just saying what he thinks will get him elected? We all know what his agenda is; his actions speak louder than words.

Exactly my thoughts: he probably asked his speechwriter(s), "Who are these people and what do they want to hear?"

109 Pawn of the Oppressor  6/04/08 9:46:46 am reply quote

re: #103 VegasRick

That is good.

My favorite was a very small signature file .gif I saw on a gun forum of Obama's "Hope" image, except it just said "NOPE".

(I propose a variant which says "HYPE".)

110 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  6/04/08 9:47:01 am reply quote

re: #108 SlartyBartfast

Exactly my thoughts: he probably asked his speechwriter(s), "Who are these people and what do they want to hear?"

"What can I say so they really really like me?"

111 mickthemick  6/04/08 9:47:40 am reply quote

#87

Most of the civilian killings in the Mideast has been the result of American and Israeli state terrorism.

More Iraqis have died as a result of sectarian violence and Iraqi-on-Iraqi retaliatory killings than have died as a result of anything the U.S. has or hasn't done. And nobody can murder and torture "Palestinians" like other Arabs can - especially if they are fellow "Palestinians."

Do you know anything about Israel? Israel has done more for the "Palestinians" than any Arab or Muslim country.

112 paxnhymn  6/04/08 9:47:44 am reply quote

re: #100 leboaz

what, exactly, is "the Zionist Lobby"?

check in desk at the Hilton Manhattan...


/badumbump.

113 Kreuzueber Halbmond  6/04/08 9:47:49 am reply quote
prepare for another eight years of continuous violence

Obama’s policy blue print for the Mideast in the next eight years

What a load of brain puke. Eight years my ass. Obama is already president in the delusional moonbat's mind.

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