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The Whole World Loves Obama

Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 9:53:37 am PDT

Maybe they should just rename the “Associated Press” to the “Obama for President Wire Service:” The Associated Press: Excitement about Obama spreads around the world.

Indonesians were rooting for the man they consider to be a hometown hero. Obama lived in the predominantly Muslim nation from age 6 to 10 with his mother and Indonesian stepfather and was fondly remembered by former teachers and classmates.

"He was an average student, but very active," said Widianto Hendro Cahyono, 48, who was in the same third-grade class as Obama at SDN Menteng elementary school in Jakarta. "He would play ball during recess until he was dripping with sweat.

"I never imagined he would become a great man."

In Mexico City, hairdresser Susan Mendoza's eyes lit up when she learned Obama had clinched the nomination.

"Bush was for the elite. Obama is of the people," she said.

UPDATE at 6/4/08 10:15:35 am:

I mean, come on now. This is just absurd. From Greek mythology, Obama learned a lesson.

WASHINGTON - To understand how Barack Obama won the presidential primary, you have to look at what he learned when he lost.

Obama defeated Hillary Rodham Clinton solidly in the Iowa caucuses in January, but five days later she beat him, painfully and unexpectedly, in New Hampshire. That loss showed him that toppling the royal family of Democratic politics would not come easily.

"I think this was meant to be," Obama said privately the next day, recalls adviser David Axelrod. "I think we were flying too close to the sun, like Icarus. When you're fighting for change, it's not supposed to be easy."

In Greek mythology, Icarus' father gives him wax wings that empower him to fly, but warns of the danger in soaring too high. Obama got similar warnings. When he arrived in Washington, Senate dean Robert Byrd cautioned him not to be in too much of a rush to leave for the White House.

But like Icarus, Obama wouldn't heed his elder's advice. Icarus would crash into the sea. Obama would learn from his own crash in New Hampshire and make history.

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1 addison  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 9:54:30am

And world opinion has made the world better when?

2 JohnnyReb  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 9:54:33am

It tells me that article is not available.

3 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 9:54:42am

Linky no worky.

4 Charles  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 9:55:13am

Now fixed.

5 Dirk Diggler  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 9:55:13am

Linky no worky.

6 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 9:55:19am

The article you've requested is not available.

7 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 9:55:22am

re: #2 JohnnyReb

Here's a close proximity.

8 leboaz  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 9:55:42am

we can't have crashed AP's servers this fast

9 CIA Reject  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 9:55:46am

re: #2 JohnnyReb

It tells me that article is not available.

Same here, maybe AP has had an 'objectivity spasm'. I hope they get better soon, I need a laugh.

10 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 9:55:55am

re: #4 Charles

Now fixed.

Thanks!

11 BGOH  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 9:56:01am

AMERICA FIRST!

/I think I need to begin a heavy drug habit...

12 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 9:56:19am

Why didn't they interview any Hamas "activists"?

13 JohnnyReb  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 9:56:32am

This one single comment makes me want to puke:

"He has a very appealing persona — elegant, fluent, strings lots of sentences together into paragraphs," Cox said. "But in terms of (his) actual policies towards the Middle East, Iraq, Iran, China, Europe — actually, we don't know."

What a bunch of ignorant losers!

14 Intrepid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 9:56:37am

Well now - we've got four Reuters visitors today so far.

Hi Reutersians!

15 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 9:56:41am

Well of course they love him... He'll restore America's image in the eyes of the world... Don't you know that is THE single most important thing...

16 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 9:56:45am

And the whole world is disappointed they can't vote our President for us, since we're just stupid, fat, lazy Americans.

17 WrathofG-d  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 9:56:46am

of course. Remember the "can they all be so stupid" cover?

18 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 9:57:00am
19 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 9:57:12am

Yep, the whole world, the AP, and Matt Drudge all love Obama.

20 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 9:57:25am

Obama Claus!

HO HO HO!

21 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 9:57:36am
22 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 9:57:37am
The excitement was less about Obama's foreign policies — which remain vague on many fronts —


Ya think?

23 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 9:58:02am

Dalai Obama.

24 David Simon  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 9:58:08am
Michael Cox, a professor of international relations at the London School of Economics, said Obama's win "has sent out a lot of positive signals around the world."

"He has a very appealing persona — elegant, fluent, strings lots of sentences together into paragraphs," Cox said.

Are you fucking kidding me?

25 CIA Reject  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 9:58:15am

"...many Germans "find (Obama's) mixture of Martin Luther King and John F. Kennedy very attractive."

Hopefully many Americans will find his mixture of Al Sharpton and Karl Marx very UNattractive...

26 alegrias  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 9:58:17am

Dear Charles, sorry for panic button, but

BBC says [opposition leader] Tsvangirai has been detained in Zimbabwe.

That's not change Mugabe promised.

27 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 9:58:24am

I wish I hadn't read it. I think I'm gonna' hurl.

Who gives a flying shit what some beautician from Mexico or a real estate agent from Viet Nam thinks?

28 BGOH  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 9:58:25am

re: #20 Ward Cleaver

Obama Claus!

HO HO HO!

If he's going to be coming down my chimney, I need to get a fire started.

29 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 9:58:30am
"He was an average student, but very active," said Widianto Hendro Cahyono, 48, who was in the same third-grade class as Obama at SDN Menteng elementary school in Jakarta. "He would play ball during recess until he was dripping with sweat.

"I never imagined he would become a great man."

Well now THERE'S an endorsement!

30 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 9:58:39am

CHANGE (America's image)!

I find it telling that everyone I talk to who says something positive about Obama says that they like the way he speaks, but say nothing about his policies. The man is like a lavishly decorated bathroom: Sure, it looks nice, but there's nothing but crap inside.

31 Opinionated  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 9:58:54am

If they love him in Indonesia why are we even bothering with an election. Just make him King.

32 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 9:59:10am
"He has a very appealing persona — elegant, fluent, strings lots of sentences together into paragraphs," Cox said.

OMG- these people are far too easily impressed. No wonder the world is going to hell in a hand basket.

33 GregInSeattle  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 9:59:13am

re: #24 David Simon

Are you fucking kidding me?

That's exactly what I thought. What a condescending jerk.

34 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 9:59:22am

If Obama doesn't win in November we Americans will have let down the world...and will have proved ourselves to be heartless, greedy, racist morons.

Vote Obama and the world will love us!

35 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 9:59:28am

I stopped by Googlespit News this morning, and nothing whatsover has changed.

They have special logo honoring the inventor of the hot air balloon, but they couldn't be bothered with a special logo for Memorial Day, honoring our fallen heroes.

And just like clockwork, The Obamamessiah has ascended to his ultimate destiny as ruler of our universe.

Don't believe me? Search Googlespit News for "Hillary Clinton".

The AP and Google, are they one and the same?

36 leboaz  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 9:59:34am

"In Mexico City, hairdresser Susan Mendoza's eyes lit up when she learned Obama had clinched the nomination."
OK. so we can all relax, now

37 zmdavid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:00:01am
Maybe they should just rename the “Associated Press” to the “Obama for President Wire Service:”


Aren't they all for Obama? It would cause too much confusion to call just 1 wire service the "Obama for President Wire Service".

38 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:00:02am

re: #29 Occasional Reader

Too bad she didn't save his sweaty shirt. She could make a killing on Ebay.

39 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:00:08am
40 Power Armored Lizardoid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:00:08am
Bush was for the elite. Obama is of the people

Yeah, I am sure Barry is for the People's Republic of America.
Commie.

/spit

41 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:00:29am
42 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:00:37am
"Bush was for the elite. Obama is of the people," she said.

What we have here is Failure To Know Anything.

Hint: What they say and what they do are two different things.

43 maddogg  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:00:51am

Lord. Does anyone have some napkins? I just woofed my hot pockets all over my keyboard......

44 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:00:52am
The German government's coordinator on U.S. relations, Karsten Voigt, said many Germans "find (Obama's) mixture of Martin Luther King and John F. Kennedy very attractive."

Wonder if this person knows that Obama is more a mixture of Jesse Jackson and Richard Daley (you pick which one).

45 obageegee  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:00:52am

OBAMANATION!

46 WrathofG-d  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:00:54am

When did the election to the POTUS become a world wide popularity contest?

I'd rather be the most hated person in Gomorrah then the poster boy!

47 GregInSeattle  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:01:01am

re: #36 leboaz

"In Mexico City, hairdresser Susan Mendoza's eyes lit up when she learned Obama had clinched the nomination."
OK. so we can all relax, now

Yeah, if elected Obama will make it even easier for Mexicans can move here illegally.

48 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:01:11am

re: #27 MandyManners

I wish I hadn't read it. I think I'm gonna' hurl.

Who gives a flying shit what some beautician from Mexico or a real estate agent from Viet Nam thinks?

Obama will engage in direct negotiations in order to fix this obvious misunderstanding.

49 Terp Mole  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:01:11am
Indonesians were rooting for the man they consider to be a hometown hero.

I take it they didn't celebrate with machetes;

Indonesia: Muslims attack Christians with machetes and sticks

Muslim extremists who are members of the Islamic Defenders Front recently attacked 200 moderate Christians and Muslims who protested for religious freedom in the Indonesian capital, threatening the protestors with death and attacking them with machetes and sticks. Twelve people were left wounded as the extremists shouted, “Repent or die.”

50 Osama Bin PorkChop  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:01:12am

Eff world opinion......that's all I have to say :)

51 addison  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:01:18am
In Mexico City, hairdresser Susan Mendoza's eyes lit up when she learned Obama had clinched the nomination. "Bush was for the elite. Obama is of the people," she said.


I almost want to reply with "Susan, you ignorant slut" but that's too harsh and it probably isn't her fault she believes such things. There's no telling what she has been exposed to in terms of media coverage in Mexico.

George Bush, rancher who lives in a what is practically a township in Texas, is a man of the elite (that's news to, well, everyone) and Obama, of Hyde Park, who hangs out with George Soros and San Francisco billionaires, is a man of the people.

Okay.

This is what the media has wrought, a staggeringly ignorant populous.

52 BGOH  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:01:19am

You know, something just occurred to me:

If the whole world has fallen in love with Obama so, why doesn't the rest of the world band together and give him Ban Ki Moon's job. It'd take him off of our hands. Just a thought...

53 LoFlyer  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:01:37am

This comment says it all; ""Bush was for the elite. Obama is of the people," she said." Yeah right, like Obama never made his infamous "embittered rural gun owners" speech in a closed group of "progressive elite" millionares in San Francisco. AP= All-Propaganda.

54 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:02:02am

HOPE FOR THE HOPE GOD

55 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:02:04am
56 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:02:05am

The whole world will fall into a deep depression when Obama loses.

57 WrathofG-d  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:02:05am

If the world loves Obama so much....will they be helping to pay for his social programs and other schemes to over tax the American public?

58 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:02:42am

re: #56 unrealizedviewpoint

The whole world will fall into a deep depression when Obama loses.

GOOD!

59 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:02:57am

re: #56 unrealizedviewpoint

The whole world will fall into a deep depression when Obama loses.

GOOD!

60 maddogg  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:03:01am

re: #56 unrealizedviewpoint

The whole world will fall into a deep depression when Obama loses.

Hell, I'm hoping for a world wide Jim Jones moment.

61 akak  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:03:02am

Sounds like a job for some bureaucrat to impose penalties to partisan shills.

Naw maybe not, there would be anyone left standing.

62 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:03:02am
63 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:03:13am

Who Does Obama Think He Is?

He's basing his foreign policy on the doctrine that we have to do what is necessary to make the rest of the world like us. That runs counter to what is necessary to keep the US secure from threats and essentially is a warmed over Kerry/Carter foreign policy of global tests and giving our enemies what they want.

64 Osama Bin PorkChop  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:03:18am

I'll trade the rest of the world Obama for a bag of pucks or a dozen baseball bats.

At least pucks and baseball bats are useful...........

65 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:03:27am

re: #56 unrealizedviewpoint

The whole world will fall into a deep depression when Obama loses.

Good. They'll use less oil then, and prices will crash, making it cheaper to fill my car.

66 Opinionated  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:03:32am

Just think.

Two things that make the World love us.

Getting attacked on 9/11.

Obama's election.

Both tragedies for us. Both favored by Islamics.

67 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:03:36am

re: #13 JohnnyReb

This one single comment makes me want to puke:

"He has a very appealing persona — elegant, fluent, strings lots of sentences together into paragraphs," Cox said. "But in terms of (his) actual policies towards the Middle East, Iraq, Iran, China, Europe — actually, we don't know."

What a bunch of ignorant losers!

I don't begrudge the point. After eight years of Bush, a guy who can speak in complete sentences comes as a revelation.

68 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:03:53am

re: #57 WrathofG-d

If the world loves Obama so much....will they be helping to pay for his social programs and other schemes to over tax the American public?

Oh, come now. Remember, it's America's responsibility to pay for everyone ELSE'S social programs and schemes. Because after all, it's ALL OUR FAULT that the rest of the world is so poor. We're stealing the world's supply of money.

/Zero-sum economics

69 mickthemick  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:04:10am

re: #49 Terp Mole Great find. All the more reason not to support any candidate the Islamic world admires.

70 venezuela lover  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:04:23am

We know for certain that Obama does not represent all of the United States. Just ask his pastors and friends. So it is natural that those that hate the U.S. would like Obama.

When will anybody, MSM or other, investigate how much funding Obama is getting from foreign interests. Are Hamas, Chavez, Amindinajerk, Nasrallah, Saudi's, FarK, and other U.S. haters contributing cash under the table?

71 pat  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:04:39am
In Mexico City, hairdresser Susan Mendoza's eyes lit up when she learned Obama had clinched the nomination.

Let her pick his arugula.

72 Sabnen  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:04:46am

He's unelectable. The racial component is huge. Here in the Hudson Valley the average Joe six-pack looks at him and sees a variation of Al Sharpton, a man not well thought of here. Good luck to the Democrats. You guys love to dream, so keep at it, but that's all you'll have in November.

73 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:04:47am

re: #63 lawhawk

Who Does Obama Think He Is?

He's some guy who can strings lots of sentences together into paragraphs!

74 Power Armored Lizardoid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:05:00am

Any more, if 'The World' likes something or someone, I pretty much assume that that thing or person is evil. Is that so wrong?

75 LoFlyer  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:05:04am

re: #57 WrathofG-d

If the world loves Obama so much....will they be helping to pay for his social programs and other schemes to over tax the American public?

You don't understand, America's job is to give, the world is to receive. Mexico and France were the few nations to come to America's aid after Katrina....

76 UFO TOFU  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:05:07am

#43 maddog
That made me laugh out loud. Now I've got the lyrics to Crash Test Dummies I want to Par-tay (I'm a man, woofing in the sink) stuck in my head.

77 David Simon  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:05:25am

More from the Who Gives a Fuck file:

Senator Barack Obama emerged as Europe's favourite candidate for America’s presidency today when a poll conducted for Telegraph.co.uk gave him 52 per cent support across five of the world’s richest nations, including Britain.

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

78 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:05:33am

Sure the world is excited about OBAMA. Their sense is that he will be like the old Freddie Prinze character - Father Rivera - the one who goes "easy on penance." Methinks they are right.

-S-

79 The Other Les  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:05:41am

Here we go. My Cthulhu 2008 sticker.

[Link: www.flickr.com...]

80 SlartyBartfast  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:06:03am

re: #24 David Simon

Cox (in typical British fashion) has just issued probably his most vicious insult of Barak and, particularly, of his followers.

81 ArmyWife  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:06:12am

re: #34 Ringo the Gringo

If Obama doesn't win in November we Americans will have let down the world...and will have proved ourselves to be heartless, greedy, racist morons.

Vote Obama and the world will love us!

Mexican hairdressers will at least

82 experiencedtraveller  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:06:41am

I haven't been this excited about a politician since...

since....

RON PAUL!

83 maddogg  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:06:43am

I would suppose world sentiment helped John Kerry too, didn't it?

No? will I guess we didn't give a crap what the rest of the friggin' world thinks.

84 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:07:18am

re: #70 venezuela lover

We know for certain that Obama does not represent all of the United States. Just ask his pastors and friends. So it is natural that those that hate the U.S. would like Obama.

When will anybody, MSM or other, investigate how much funding Obama is getting from foreign interests. Are Hamas, Chavez, Amindinajerk, Nasrallah, Saudi's, FarK, and other U.S. haters contributing cash under the table?

"v-l" -

All contributions under $200 need NOT be fully reported. Start there.

-S-

85 leboaz  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:07:35am

re: #71 pat
Well, McCain thinks that's worth over $50/hour. I guess she should just come on up. Yuck

86 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:07:53am

Man! The whole world's really going to hate us when we don't elect this guy.

Oh, wait. They already hate us. So much for "change".

87 Cognito  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:08:18am

re: #24 David Simon

Are you fucking kidding me?

You've got to quote the whole thing, to get the guy's point:

"He has a very appealing persona — elegant, fluent, strings lots of sentences together into paragraphs," Cox said. "But in terms of (his) actual policies towards the Middle East, Iraq, Iran, China, Europe — actually, we don't know."

He's saying Obama's 'positive' thing is essentially hollow.

And he can appeal all day long to Mexican hairdressers and middle-aged Indonesians. None of them will cast a vote, however.

I fervently hope people here in America will shake themselves awake and search for substance, instead of sugar. But I'm skeptical.

88 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:08:26am

I can't wait to visit relatives in Germany and be told at parties about "ze bleck JFK". I'm really looking forward to having to take an hour out of my partying to brief everyone on Reality, and explain to these poor misguided foreigners, yet again, that their media is bullshitting them, that they only get 1/10th of the story if they're lucky.

89 El Anti-Idiotario  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:08:28am

And this from our "friends" the Syrians:

“And we are fed up with over a decade of American leadership in the hands of two families—Clinton and Bush. For us,” he says—diplomatically omitting the fact that President Assad, who has now ruled for eight years, succeeded his father, Hafez el-Assad, who ruled Syria with an iron fist for three decades—“Obama represents new blood.”

http://www.city-journal.org/2008/eon0603jm.html

/ROTFLMAO

90 thedopefishlives  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:08:40am

re: #83 maddogg

I would suppose world sentiment helped John Kerry too, didn't it?

No? will I guess we didn't give a crap what the rest of the friggin' world thinks.

And they've never forgiven us for it, in case you haven't noticed. Because after all, when it comes to running the world's lone remaining superpower, everyone in the world should have a say, right? ...Right?

*crickets*

91 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:08:57am
92 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:09:00am

Africa hails Obama's victory


JOHANNESBURG - The news of Barack Obama clinching the Democratic presidential nomination triggered another round of media buzz in Africa, where the Illinois senator is looked upon as a pan-African folk hero.

...Obama made big headlines in many Nairobi papers. "Historic Moment as Obama Triumphs" crowed the Daily Nation on a day when the competing news included a 12-year-old goat herder's hand-to-hand combat with hyenas. Earlier, The Standard newspaper had hinted at Kenyans' stratospheric expectations of an Obama win: "U.S. Offers Human Species a Chance to Attain Post-Racial Eden" one story intoned.

93 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:09:01am

Let me see, some 3rd world crap holes and socialist worker's paradises support Barry and I'm supposed to take that as a positive reason to vote for him?

94 addison  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:09:03am

re: #77 David Simon

More from the Who Gives a Fuck file:

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

You know, that isn't so bad from them. Only 52% against John McCain? Interesting.

95 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:09:16am

re: #87 Cognito

I'm skeptical as well... I have little faith in the electorate this time around...

I think 'Bush fatigue' will play a role...

96 conservativeChick  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:09:25am

Good now we should elect the guy who the socialist of world doesn't want to be president of the United States. Remember a vote for McCain is a vote to defeating unthinking socialist like these people.

97 Tumulus11  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:09:39am
'He would play ball during recess until he was dripping with sweat.'
// Widianto Hendro Cahyono

. 'Where each drop of sweat fell on the asphalt, a golden rose bush would spring up with a diamond hidden in every blossom.'
/ Apply liberally.

98 NYC_Mike  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:09:45am

get used to this folks - trust me the media fawning is just beginning

99 Intrepid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:09:47am

Yep, Obama can string words together to make a paragraph, but only if he can read it off of a piece of paper or a teleprompter, Mr Cox.

Please refer to the question and answer session of just a few short days ago, in which the most prevalent words he spoke were "uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uhhh, uh".

Also refer to the Q&A off the cuff answer he gave last week, starting with, "I have a...uncle, [who was part of the forces that liberated Auschwitz]". That's certainly coherent (if not grammatically incorrect - the use of "a" instead of "an") but totally ridiculous, as I'm sure you're aware that the Soviets liberated Auschwitz.

I remember hearing about another "well-spoken" leader who gave rousing and mesmerizing speeches in a country not that far from yours, just 65-70 years ago. He sure could turn a phrase into some striking paragraphs, Mr Cox.

And he almost laid ruin to the whole of the Western Hemisphere before he was done.

I'm hoping (HOPE!) most Americans will do what is needed in these times and look past the facade and the sweet words to the meanings and motives behind them. And we won't fall for it.

100 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:10:03am

re: #79 The Other Les

Zod '08!

101 leboaz  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:10:14am

re: #87 Cognito
The hairdresser may not cast a vote, but I'll bet some of her family does.

102 paxnhymn  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:10:18am

re: #72 Sabnen

He's unelectable. The racial component is huge. Here in the Hudson Valley the average Joe six-pack looks at him and sees a variation of Al Sharpton, a man not well thought of here. Good luck to the Democrats. You guys love to dream, so keep at it, but that's all you'll have in November.


.....you forgot about the verrry large section of guilty-for-being-white libs and other just plain stupid folk who go with the prevailing fad...he could pull this nastiness off.

103 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:10:47am

re: #1 addison

And world opinion has made the world better when?

we could hope it does this time, for a change......

(never too early to start drinking! %-)

104 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:10:51am

re: #93 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Let me see, some 3rd world crap holes and socialist worker's paradises support Barry and I'm supposed to take that as a positive reason to vote for him?

Shut up and swallow your white guilt! SWALLOW IT! CHEW! SWALLOW! YOU CAPITALIST BROWN-PEOPLE-BOMBING SWINE! SHUT UP! OBEY! GIVE US YOUR MONEY AND SHUT UP!

FUCK AMERICA!

SHUT UP!

/what they really mean

105 lurking faith  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:10:56am
"Bush was for the elite. Obama is of the people," she said.

Because we all know the elitists love to clear brush by hand, whereas your true man of the people sneers routinely at the pursuits of the common folk.

/Up is down; left is right; false is true; day is night.

106 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:10:58am

re: #87 Cognito

I fervently hope people here in America will shake themselves awake and search for substance, instead of sugar. But I'm skeptical.

I was speaking to a democrat the other night. He told me he thought his party was stupid, and that they just want to "feel good". Maybe there's a chance other democrats will wake up like this one did.

107 maddogg  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:11:04am

re: #92 NJDhockeyfan

Thats just great, Obama gets the thumbs up from every rat infested disease hole in the world, Makes me so proud.

108 EC Marm  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:11:12am

JammieWearingFool
If you're around - what's the word on the "whitey" video you put up in spinoff links. YouTube/Google says it was 'removed by user'?

109 TalkinKamel  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:11:26am

re: #101 leboaz

Uh-huh---whether they're legally able to vote here or not! (Heh, heh, heh.)

Somebody pass me the alka-seltzer. The media's love affair with Obama is starting to get revolting. . .

110 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:11:47am
111 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:11:53am

What morons those democrats are. In an election year all set up for a democratic victory, by likely 70/30 landslide mind you, they bring forth this unelectable baggage riddled Chicago ultra-liberal who's likelihood of winning is at best 50/50.

112 TalkinKamel  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:11:54am

re: #103 redc1c4

As I recall, world opinion was pretty favorable towards Hitler, in the beginning. . .

113 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:12:12am
114 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:12:17am

re: #63 lawhawk

Who Does Obama Think He Is?

He's basing his foreign policy on the doctrine that we have to do what is necessary to make the rest of the world like us. That runs counter to what is necessary to keep the US secure from threats and essentially is a warmed over Kerry/Carter foreign policy of global tests and giving our enemies what they want.

I wonder who writes his stuff.

115 ronpaulblimpie  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:12:21am

"For the people" is what socialists and communists constantly claim. Obama is no different.
I saw that McCain challenged Obama to 10 Town Halls across the USA. Personally, I think he wants to show where he does best but how is he going to ensure a partisan crowd? It isn't going to happen. Everytime McCain speaks he'll get booed by Obama supporters.

"Bringing this nation together"? My ass!

116 Peter Griffin  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:12:28am

Bush Derangement Syndrome has mutated...

117 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:12:35am
118 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:12:41am

re: #81 ArmyWife

Mexican hairdressers will at least

I can just see the headlines after McCain is elected....

Obama Loses Presidential Race; Women, Minorities, Mexican Hairdressers Hardest Hit

119 DownRightMeanAmerican  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:12:47am

Walter Mondale, Michael Dukakis and now Barack Obama.

Democrats, you cant learn them for nothing.

120 maddogg  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:13:00am

re: #114 MandyManners

Baghdad Bob I would have to say.

121 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:13:15am

re: #105 lurking faith

Because we all know the elitists love to clear brush by hand, whereas your true man of the people sneers routinely at the pursuits of the common folk.

/Up is down; left is right; false is true; day is night.

Hey, it's all Orwell to me.

122 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:13:25am
123 Spiny Norman  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:13:28am

re: #24 David Simon

Michael Cox, a professor of international relations at the London School of Economics, said Obama's win "has sent out a lot of positive signals around the world."
"He has a very appealing persona — elegant, fluent, strings lots of sentences together into paragraphs," Cox said.

Are you fucking kidding me?

Perfesser Cox has clearly never seen unedited video of Obama attempting to do his job as a Senator in a committee hearing. I've never seen an elected official stammer so much.

124 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:13:40am

re: #97 Tumulus11

. 'Where each drop of sweat fell on the asphalt, a golden rose bush would spring up with a diamond hidden in every blossom.'
/ Apply liberally.

Beautifully said.

125 CIA Reject  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:13:42am

re: #102 paxnhymn

.....you forgot about the verrry large section of guilty-for-being-white libs and other just plain stupid folk who go with the prevailing fad...he could pull this nastiness off.

You know, that reminds me of the old Eddie Murphy routine about white people getting drunk and voting for Jesse Jackson as a joke...

126 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:13:48am

re: #64 Osama Bin PorkChop

I'll trade the rest of the world Obama for a bag of pucks or a dozen baseball bats.

At least pucks and baseball bats are useful...........

But not at the same time. /

127 Lee Coller  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:13:56am

Heres the Federal Election Commission summary for Obama's Contributions:

Obama's FEC Summary

128 TalkinKamel  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:14:00am

re: #74 Power Armored Lizardoid

Well, considering some of the things the world has supported in the past, not really. .

129 paxnhymn  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:14:07am

re: #98 NYC_Mike

get used to this folks - trust me the media fawning is just beginning


which is why this is soooooo bad. Telll a lie long enough and stupid people believe it....

130 David Simon  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:14:24am

re: #87 Cognito

He's saying Obama's 'positive' thing is essentially hollow.

And he can appeal all day long to Mexican hairdressers and middle-aged Indonesians. None of them will cast a vote, however.

I fervently hope people here in America will shake themselves awake and search for substance, instead of sugar. But I'm skeptical.

I understood the "point."

The part that I quoted is what our inarticulate cowboy President calls "the soft bigotry of low expectations." "Strings full sentences into paragraphs?" He's basically saying that he's impressed that Obama can speak English.

131 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:14:40am
132 Boston Patriot  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:14:48am

"Bush was for the elite. Obama is of the people"

What a pathetic joke. Government should only ewxist for protection of the INDIVIDUAL. Neither of them have any clue. Bush thinks he does- but is wrong- Obama just wants to implement socialism. Both are misguided.

133 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:15:15am

re: #112 TalkinKamel

As I recall, world opinion was pretty favorable towards Hitler, in the beginning. . .

AND mussolini- they fawned all over him! He was sexy to them.

134 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:15:24am

John 15:18 (KJV): 'If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.'

135 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:15:29am

re: #105 lurking faith

Because we all know the elitists love to clear brush by hand, whereas your true man of the people sneers routinely at the pursuits of the common folk.

/Up is down; left is right; false is true; day is night.

That is a most ungrateful Mexican hairdresser; what else does Bush have to do to convince the Mexicans that the border is open? Jeez. To do any more to have Texas loaded with illegal aliens from Mexico, Obama will have to carry them across the Rio Grande personally!

136 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:15:39am

re: #127 Lee Coller

Heres the Federal Election Commission summary for Obama's Contributions:

Obama's FEC Summary

Wow, 97.5% of it is individual contributions.

137 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:15:42am

re: #129 paxnhymn

which is why this is soooooo bad. Telll a lie long enough and stupid people believe it....

What's worse in this case... They already do...

138 Sabnen  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:16:00am

re: #102 paxnhymn

You may be right. They are here, standing outside the post office on nice Saturdays in their khakis handing out literature. I'll worry more when they are there on rainy days.

139 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:16:14am

OT: Palestinians exhausted by America aid....


Yahoo pic

Palestinians rest on bags of food

Another one

A Palestinian rests on bags of food

140 Spiny Norman  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:16:30am

re: #130 David Simon

I understood the "point."

The part that I quoted is what our inarticulate cowboy President calls "the soft bigotry of low expectations." "Strings full sentences into paragraphs?" He's basically saying that he's impressed that Obama can speak English.

Hmmm... maybe I should reappraise Prof. Cox's statement: was he expecting Ebonics?

141 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:16:35am
142 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:16:44am

re: #135 OldLineTexan

That is a most ungrateful Mexican hairdresser; what else does Bush have to do to convince the Mexicans that the border is open? Jeez. To do any more to have Texas loaded with illegal aliens from Mexico, Obama will have to carry them across the Rio Grande personally!

He will just stand on the banks and part the water for them to walk across.

143 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:16:45am

re: #135 OldLineTexan

That is a most ungrateful Mexican hairdresser; what else does Bush have to do to convince the Mexicans that the border is open? Jeez. To do any more to have Texas loaded with illegal aliens from Mexico, Obama will have to carry them across the Rio Grande personally!

Obama will split the Rio Grande for them.

144 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:16:48am

re: #139 Killgore Trout

Nice... Well, they don't HAVE to get any aid...

145 indythinker  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:16:50am

It's the old racist canard of false praise of African-Americans. "He's so articulate." That's now catching fire around the world as people want the US to have an African-American as president so that can prove that their false beliefs are true. If he were a white guy he'd be trashed.

146 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:17:14am

re: #126 lawhawk

But not at the same time. /

I dunno about that...sacks of pucks and baseball bats at the Dem convention in Denver could be useful at the same time...

147 Adrenalyn  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:17:23am

don't you think the phrase

Obama lived in the predominantly Muslim nation

should be boldfaced
so as to remind people of what we're dealing with here

Muslims for Obama

not a good thing, if you ask me

about as bad as stormfront for Bob (unsafe with a handgun) Barr

148 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:17:30am

re: #133 Sharmuta

AND mussolini- they fawned all over him! He was sexy to them.

Especially Mussolini (far more so than Hitler or even Stalin). IIRC, they even had pictures where Mussolini posed shirtless.

Remind you of any one?

149 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:17:45am
But like Icarus, Obama wouldn't heed his elder's advice. Icarus would crash into the sea. Obama would learn from his own crash in New Hampshire and make history.

There's plenty of time for him to crash still. And the way the msm keeps elevating him, it won't be surprising to see his wax wings melt.

150 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:17:58am

Obama is gonna change this country. Michelle will be right there with him , telling us why we suck.

151 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:17:58am
152 see bs  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:18:02am

" Obama is of the people,Change,Hope Snobs"

Stay in Mexico Lady

153 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:18:26am

re: #144 tfc3rid

The pics of Palestinians lounging on bags of food are as predictable as car swarms.

154 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:18:28am

re: #147 Adrenalyn

Well, that's a line that is of the utmost importance... At least to me...

As for Bob Barr, I believe he denounced any support he might be getting from fascist groups... I give him credit for that... Not for running, but for that...

155 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:18:44am

I can't wait for the art world to rediscover Socialist Realism.

I look forward to paintings of Obama reading from his Little Mocha Book, or smiling while he harvests grain with The People, who are also smiling and happy to do work.

When do we get to the smashing stuff? Does that come before or after the pretty paintings of happy working people?

156 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:18:57am

re: #153 Killgore Trout

The pics of Palestinians lounging on bags of food are as predictable as car swarms.

Sadly you are correct...

157 Spiny Norman  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:19:10am

re: #132 Boston Patriot

"Bush was for the elite. Obama is of the people"

What a pathetic joke. Government should only ewxist for protection of the INDIVIDUAL. Neither of them have any clue. Bush thinks he does- but is wrong- Obama just wants to implement socialism. Both are misguided.

Mexican haridressers have never heard of his privileged upbringing or his Ivy League education? What, the mainstream media hasn't mentioned that? Color me surprised.

158 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:19:39am

"Obama is of the people..."

From South and Central America, Russia, Europe, Asia, Malaysia, Middle East...

/USA is off the list.

159 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:19:40am

re: #157 Spiny Norman

Color me surprised.

RACIST!

/

160 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:19:53am

re: #148 Honorary Yooper

Especially Mussolini (far more so than Hitler or even Stalin). IIRC, they even had pictures where Mussolini posed shirtless.

Remind you of any one?

It's downright frickin' scary.

161 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:19:58am

re: #157 Spiny Norman

Mexican haridressers have never heard of his privileged upbringing or his Ivy League education? What, the mainstream media hasn't mentioned that? Color me surprised.

Or of the fact he lives in a mansion in Hyde Park.

/paid for through Tony Rezko no less.

162 'Nam Grunt  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:20:09am

If the world loves Obama so much and how he will help the "people", then why aren't they up in arms about Burma turning away our Navy ships full of supplies for the victims and refusing them to unload supplies, as we speak?

163 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:20:11am

re: #139 Killgore Trout

OT: Palestinians exhausted by America aid....


Yahoo pic

I see that 58 years of welfare has the same effect in Gaza as it does in the US...

164 Cognito  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:20:13am

re: #130 David Simon

I understood the "point."

The part that I quoted is what our inarticulate cowboy President calls "the soft bigotry of low expectations." "Strings full sentences into paragraphs?" He's basically saying that he's impressed that Obama can speak English.

Except he's not. The 'stringing sentences' bit is clearly sarcastic, in light of the rest of the quote.

165 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:20:18am

So, what do the newspapers in the so-called 'Flyover States' or 'Red States' say about Obama today?

166 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:20:25am
167 leboaz  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:20:49am

re: #136 Honorary Yooper

Wow, 97.5% of it is individual contributions.

It wouldn't surprise me if it turned out that these "individual" contributions were just like the "voters" that ACORN has come up with. Lots of guys around Obama's campaign are pretty sophisticated at handling money, if you know what I mean.

168 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:20:50am

re: #161 Honorary Yooper

Come on man, Rezko is just a minor annoyance...

169 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:20:51am
170 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:21:00am

It's personal now.

Barack 'Icarus' Obama.

171 Cap'n DOC  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:21:35am

re: #14 Intrepid

Roto-Reuters - for easier flushing!

172 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:21:37am

re: #116 Peter Griffin

Bush Derangement Syndrome has mutated...

It's new title is now simply
Obama Delirium Syndrome (ODS).
Like BDS, but differs in that it's effects are seeming more widespread.
The only apparent cure is loss, total loss.

173 littleben  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:21:37am

Watching the MSM's reaction to Obama coronation...

For the first time in my adult life I am proud fearful to be an American.

174 David Simon  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:21:43am

re: #140 Spiny Norman

Hmmm... maybe I should reappraise Prof. Cox's statement: was he expecting Ebonics?

I'm not a fan of Chris Rock, but when there was serious talk many years ago about Colin Powell running for President, he did a beautiful skit mocking whitey: "OOH, he speaks so well!" That's what that Cox asshole reminds me of.

175 Silhouette  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:21:47am

re: #92 NJDhockeyfan

"U.S. Offers Human Species a Chance to Attain Post-Racial Eden"

Good Lord.

I know many of the LLL were voting for him to prove what virtuous non-bigots they were, but now they've convinced themselves they've saved the human species?! That is some uber 'patting them on the back.'

(Pssst, libs, if you voted for him, even partially, because of his race, you are not post-racial. Your actions were based on race. You're a racist.)

176 dmh0667  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:21:56am

re: #20 Ward Cleaver

Obama Claus!

HO HO HO!

Racist!

/

177 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:22:00am

re: #169 Killgore Trout

Speaking of ingrates....
U.S. ships set to leave Myanmar; aid undelivered

Well then I will say... NEVER AGAIN...

You don't want our aid, then you're on your own...

178 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:22:21am

re: #155 Pawn of the Oppressor

I can't wait for the art world to rediscover Socialist Realism.

I look forward to paintings of Obama reading from his Little Mocha Book, or smiling while he harvests grain with The People, who are also smiling and happy to do work.

When do we get to the smashing stuff? Does that come before or after the pretty paintings of happy working people?

Perhaps one day Obama t-shirts will outsell Che's...

Naw.

179 Spiny Norman  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:22:24am

re: #159 tfc3rid

re: #157 Spiny Norman
Color me surprised.

RACIST!

/

Funny, I knew that was coming as soon as I hit "Post".

;^)

180 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:22:29am
181 NoSubmission  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:22:43am

Our enemies also loves them some Obmama.

182 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:23:00am

re: #179 Spiny Norman

It's too easy now...

183 Pyrocles  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:23:08am

That's why my liberal wife likes Obama now that Hillary's gone. She's an ex-Canadian who believes Canada's Socialist government is superior to the U.S. system, and that Obama will make the U.S. more "Canadian". This will make the U.S. loved by everyone, just like Canada...

She forbids me from voting if I'm planning to vote for McCain...

re: #15 tfc3rid

Well of course they love him... He'll restore America's image in the eyes of the world... Don't you know that is THE single most important thing...

184 Adrenalyn  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:23:09am

re: #154 tfc3rid

Well, that's a line that is of the utmost importance... At least to me...

As for Bob Barr, I believe he denounced any support he might be getting from fascist groups... I give him credit for that... Not for running, but for that...


it sure should be, if not for truth in advertising
but for sheer shock/campaign value
McCain cannot fight nicely and win

as for Bob Barr
yes, he deserves credit for that
but how dumb can a person be to take a loaded firearm from someone AND THEN SQUEEZE THE TRIGGER

reminds me of a (true) story
was dating the GF (now the wife)
went to meet her brother and his wife and their house for a nice BBQ

he and I talk guy stuff
guns come up
he runs in the other room and grabs a nice antique double barrel shotgun that he'd recently inherited
hands it to the wife to hand to me
(without the requisite open/display of 'unloadedness')
before she can squeeze the trigger
(girls are not always gun savvy/respectful)
I grabbed it and cracked it open
and 2 shells (live naturally) pop out

thereby avoiding a disaster
so basic gun safety for me is a big issue
it speaks to someone's intelligence
and my brother in law has proven time and again
he's not someone I'd vote for

hence, the Bob Barr reference
he won't get my vote, ever

185 Opinionated  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:23:21am

re: #139 Killgore Trout

Look at this one.

[Link: d.yimg.com...]
That 'Palestinian' looks an awful lot like an African.

Since Palestinian has no real meaning, it can be used generically to describe just anybody the media wants us to pity.

186 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:23:42am

re: #169 Killgore Trout

Speaking of ingrates....
U.S. ships set to leave Myanmar; aid undelivered

Well, there's a few thousand tons of fuel and carbon emissions wasted.

Somebody have the Goracle fix that for me, please.

187 Shr_Nfr  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:23:50am

re: #114 MandyManners

Certainly nobody who has read their history. Machiavelli makes the simple point that it is best for the Prince to be both loved and feared. But if they can only chose one, chose being feared over being loved every time.

188 Opinionated  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:23:55am

re: #185 Opinionated

Look at this one.

[Link: d.yimg.com...]
That 'Palestinian' looks an awful lot like an African.

Since Palestinian has no real meaning, it can be used generically to describe just anybody the media wants us to pity.

A Palestinian carries a bag of food supplied by the UN Relief and Works Agency, (UNRWA), outside a warehouse in Askar Refugee Camp, near the west Bank town of Nablus, Tuesday, June 3, 2008. UNRWA has provided food, housing, education and health care for Palestinian refugees in Gaza, the West Bank and neighboring countries since its inception in 1950. ( AP Photo/Nasser Ishtayeh)

189 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:24:05am

re: #183 Pyrocles

Well then you get your ass out an vote... The WROST thing would be for our nation to turn into Canada South in terms of socialist government programs...

190 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:24:19am

re: #165 tfc3rid

So, what do the newspapers in the so-called 'Flyover States' or 'Red States' say about Obama today?

The Chicago papers are fawning over him. It is as to be expected.
The Detroit papers, not so much.

/I read both on-line.

191 WrathofG-d  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:24:21am

Hey show your respect to the coming O'Messiah

192 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:24:41am

re: #163 OldLineTexan

I see that 58 years of welfare has the same effect in Gaza as it does in the US...

If you don't have a porch to kick back on, what's better than a sack of food?

193 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:24:48am
194 infidelia  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:25:05am

re: #149 Sharmuta

There's plenty of time for him to crash still. And the way the msm keeps elevating him, it won't be surprising to see his wax wings melt.

Unless there are enough sane and patriotic people left to bring this nation to its senses, we are slated to learn some very painful lessons the hard way, much as we did in 1941. And the longer this little weasel keeps riding this wave, the harder and more disruptive the fall will be. Every day we have to wait to find out whether this nightmare is going to end means another day of uncertainty about the future and how to plan ahead.

195 DownRightMeanAmerican  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:25:17am

The greatest gift maybe is for Obama to win and have his dreadful 4 years of church gate that adds 30-40 years to his face, then Michelle can be really proud!

196 Kulhwch  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:25:21am
But like Icarus, Obama wouldn't heed his elder's advice. Icarus would crash into the sea.

Of course, in the original mythos, Icarus DIED.  I hope the Gods are paying attention to this allusion ...

}:)     [<channeling Jiminy Cricket> When you wish upon a star ... ]

197 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:25:27am

re: #190 Honorary Yooper

The Chicago papers are fawning over him. It is as to be expected.
The Detroit papers, not so much.

/I read both on-line.

Interesting...

How about Ohio, Florida, and Colorado papers?

198 Maine's Michael  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:25:41am

Obama campaign manager Axelrod:

'We have calls in to Leni Riefenstahl. We're thinking of making a documentary about the campaign.'

199 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:25:45am

Let's stay positive and look at the upside. Watching the hysterical reaction after Obama gets blown out in November will provide so much comic material.

200 NoSubmission  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:26:08am

re: #183 Pyrocles
Your liberal wife is forbidding you to vote for McCain?

201 maddogg  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:26:13am

I am glad Burma turned away our aid. I hope the rest of the 3rd world takes a cue. I am tired of sending aid to people who return our help with venom. Fuck them. Let them ask Allah and Mohammad and Chairman Mao for aid. We can then have more resources to help people who won't spit in our faces afterward.

/yeah, I mean it, and I'm comfortable with it.

202 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:26:15am

I bet he can't play guitar like Charles does. Charles could kick Obamamort's arse with the guitar.

203 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:26:20am

re: #173 littleben

Watching the MSM's reaction to Obama coronation...

For the first time in my adult life I am proud fearful to be an American.

Same here.

204 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:26:28am

re: #192 really grumpy big dog Johnson

If you don't have a porch to kick back on, what's better than a sack of food?

My God, those poor people don't even have porches!

/

205 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:26:37am

re: #199 JammieWearingFool

Let's stay positive and look at the upside. Watching the hysterical reaction after Obama gets blown out in November will provide so much comic material.

JWF, I wish I could share your enthusiam and hope for a November blowout but I think this is going to be razor thin...

206 ContraJihadi  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:26:45am

Barack Hussein Icarus Obama, where nemesis follows hybris.

207 Spiny Norman  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:26:48am

re: #169 Killgore Trout

Speaking of ingrates....
U.S. ships set to leave Myanmar; aid undelivered

It is a horrible and callous move by the ruling junta, but maybe a blessing in diguise: will the Burmese people finally decide they've had enough and depose those thugs?

208 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:26:52am

God, I can't wait for Denver.

209 turn  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:26:57am

re: #170 JammieWearingFool

It's personal now.

Barack 'Icarus' Obama.

"I suspect his wings will soon be clipped."

I hope you're right about that JWF, but after watching that stupid shit ass grin on McCain last night I'm really beginning to have doubts he can win against Barry.

210 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:26:57am
211 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:27:08am

re: #199 JammieWearingFool

Let's stay positive and look at the upside. Watching the hysterical reaction after Obama gets blown out in November will provide so much comic material.

I wonder if KKKos's head really will explode this time!

212 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:27:22am

re: #183 Pyrocles

That's why my liberal wife likes Obama now that Hillary's gone. She's an ex-Canadian who believes Canada's Socialist government is superior to the U.S. system, and that Obama will make the U.S. more "Canadian". This will make the U.S. loved by everyone, just like Canada...

She forbids me from voting if I'm planning to vote for McCain...

What?

213 NoSubmission  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:27:31am

re: #208 Sharmuta

God, I can't wait for Denver.


When is it?

214 deanyc  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:27:39am
When he arrived in Washington, Senate dean Robert Byrd cautioned him not to be in too much of a rush to leave for the White House.

Awww. How sweet. The nation's first African American nominee from a major party receiving wise counsel from a former Ku Klux Klansmen

215 see bs  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:27:43am

Shit, why do we even need an election? Let's just crown him king already!
/

216 markx  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:27:47am

re: #183 Pyrocles

That's why my liberal wife likes Obama now that Hillary's gone. She's an ex-Canadian who believes Canada's Socialist government is superior to the U.S. system, and that Obama will make the U.S. more "Canadian". This will make the U.S. loved by everyone, just like Canada...

She forbids me from voting if I'm planning to vote for McCain...

Are you searching for a good divorce attorney?


/

217 Lee Coller  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:27:49am
I mean, come on now. This is just absurd. From Greek mythology, Obama learned a lesson.

Is that supposed to be a news story?

218 Adrenalyn  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:27:51am

the media fawned all over jon carry too and he did not win in 2004

anyone but me remember the Ted Koppel trip to Vietnam
(within 90 days of the election and thereby illegal, but I digress)
where he visited former VC who were still shaking in their sandals over that fierce American warrior and great stateman from the "American War"


they will stop at nothing
and unless McCain and even Rush and Coulter and us
they will get away with it

219 infidelia  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:27:59am

re: #172 unrealizedviewpoint

It's new title is now simply
Obama Delirium Syndrome (ODS).
Like BDS, but differs in that it's effects are seeming more widespread.
The only apparent cure is loss, total loss.

Wouldn't that be pronounced "odious"?

220 Inquisitive  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:28:00am

Okay can someone tell me what's going on or what's going wrong?
On all the post I see a red minus, next a blank square box, a number, another blank square box and then an exclamation point.

221 experiencedtraveller  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:28:06am

re: #153 Killgore Trout

The pics of Palestinians lounging on bags of food are as predictable as car swarms.

100% profit margin in that racket. Awesome Alpha.

222 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:28:08am

re: #211 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I wonder if KKKos's head really will explode this time!

I'm not cleaning it up.

223 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:28:33am

re: #213 NoSubmission

8/25-28.

224 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:28:35am

re: #213 NoSubmission

The end of August.

225 David Simon  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:28:37am

re: #164 Cognito

Except he's not. The 'stringing sentences' bit is clearly sarcastic, in light of the rest of the quote.

You could be right. I don't see what all the fuss is about regarding Obama's oratory skills, so perhaps I'm reading more into it than I should.

226 BGOH  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:28:43am

re: #161 Honorary Yooper

Or of the fact he lives in a mansion in Hyde Park.

/paid for through Tony Rezko no less.

You can't talk about this. It is racist to talk about the exclusive wealthy community in which he resides. My word do we live in a hateful, racist country!

/

227 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:29:19am

re: #217 Lee Coller

Is that supposed to be a news story?

nd how old was he when he learned the lesson? Dude, I learned the lesson of Icarus when I was like, 8. Am I reading this right, or has it taken Barry THIS long to learn it.

I thought he went to some ivy league school?

228 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:29:22am

re: #204 OldLineTexan

My God, those poor people don't even have porches!

/

Gaza is flat poor. How they wear those designer casual digs is beyond me.

229 Eowyn2  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:29:29am

How well does greek mythology play in Mexico's hair dressing salons.

230 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:29:31am
231 J.S.  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:29:35am

re: #68 thedopefishlives

did you happen to catch that fiasco of the UN going to Rome event? (it's called the World Food Summit -- and has as much credibility as the United Nations "Human Rights") what a disgusting affair this is. Everyone there is blaming the United States for -- hold on -- world hunger and the food shortage. Mugabe (after stealing and running off white land owners) blamed the United States for food shortages...(oh, and never, of course, is there any mention of Arab oil price hikes related to food costs -- that would be just sooo islamophobic!)

232 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:29:45am

re: #205 tfc3rid

JWF, I wish I could share your enthusiam and hope for a November blowout but I think this is going to be razor thin...

When I keep getting Massachusetts Democrats telling me they're voting for McCain, I suspect you can dismiss the polls.

233 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:29:58am

re: #197 tfc3rid

Interesting...

How about Ohio, Florida, and Colorado papers?

No idea. However, Rahm Emmanuel just threw Hillary under the bus finally.

234 Spiny Norman  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:30:02am

re: #208 Sharmuta

God, I can't wait for Denver.

Recreate '68!

235 Pyrocles  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:30:15am

Or so she says... I'll find a way to sneak in my vote though, damnit.

She says that she "hates" McCain. I asked her why, since he's basically a democrat in all ways except for his support for the war on terror. She just calls him "George Bush's third term", and "McSame."

She gets all of her news through NPR; listens to it religiously.

re: #200 NoSubmission

Your liberal wife is forbidding you to vote for McCain?

236 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:30:21am

re: #232 JammieWearingFool

When I keep getting Massachusetts Democrats telling me they're voting for McCain, I suspect you can dismiss the polls.

Now THAT would be a gift...

237 zmdavid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:30:25am
From Greek mythology, Obama learned a lesson.


Did he cut a deal with Poseidon to lower sea levels?

238 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:30:28am

And speaking of Denver- here's a list of the blogs credentialed to cover it.

239 MarkX  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:30:38am

re: #227 The Pulchritudinous Patriot


I thought he went to some ivy league school?

He did. That's why he never learned anything.

240 WrathofG-d  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:30:42am

re: #204 OldLineTexan

My God, those poor people don't even have porches!

/

That is, of course because they were all stolen by the Zionist - Settlers.

241 Richard Romano  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:31:05am
"Bush was for the elite. Obama is of the people," she said.

What an incredibly naive statement -- and this indubitably makes up much of the electorate that favors Obama.

242 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:31:16am

re: #239 MarkX

He did. That's why he never learned anything.

Oh. Yeaaaa. That's right. No one learns, they get indoctrinated.

243 BigJohn  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:31:29am

He's so articulate.

244 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:31:48am

re: #227 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

nd how old was he when he learned the lesson? Dude, I learned the lesson of Icarus when I was like, 8. Am I reading this right, or has it taken Barry THIS long to learn it.

I thought he went to some ivy league school?

Barry aint the quickest one. 20 Years at the church and supposedly didnt notice anything wrong.

245 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:31:50am

re: #240 WrathofG-d

That is, of course because they were all stolen by the Zionist - Settlers.

I knew someone would catch my drift.

246 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:31:56am

What bothers me right now is that the timing of all this sucks. I'm right on the edge financially, and I don't have the reserves to absorb a socialist wallet-scouring, let alone the extra scratch to buy ammo, small pawnable precious metals, and high-cap mags. If the nation riots or the economy implodes under the weight of Jimbama's have-your-cake-and-eat-it-too BS, I'm done for.

247 infidelia  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:32:04am

re: #203 MandyManners

Same here.

Oh good, it's not just me.

There's a book just came out about the Cuban Missle Crisis, takes it day by day, hour by hour. I was 19 and in my first year of college. All the leftist profs and students were going around predicting that nuclear doomsday was here. I don't remember being really afraid for one second of that whole event.

Now I'm terrified.

248 Russkilitlover  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:32:17am

This is just the beginning of the sugary syrup we will have crammed down our throats for the next 5 months. The machine behind BHO is at full tilt and will most likely give him the election. McCain looks a tired, poor relation next to BHO. Someone or something needs to POSTERIZE this pretender!

249 NoSubmission  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:32:26am

re: #235 Pyrocles
I had a liberal ex-husband. Once.

250 Intrepid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:32:40am

What Europeans want is for the US to be dragged down into the same crappy situation they find themselves in:

1. A growing and threatening Muslim immigrant population that has paralyzed them by fear of reprisals should anyone publish one negative word or picture (including cartoons!) about the ROP

2. A stagnant and in many cases declining economy

3. A rise in fascist beliefs and violence

4. A loss of their own cultural and national distinctiveness, while embracing multi-culturalism and a generic "European" identity

5. Out and out-right cowardice, in some

Misery does love company.

251 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:33:09am

Another gift from our open borders policy:

But the germ can infect anyone who eats contaminated fresh cheeses sold by street vendors, smuggled across the Mexican border or produced by families who try to make a living selling so-called “bathtub cheese” made in home tubs and backyard troughs.

252 Richard Romano  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:33:31am
She forbids me from voting if I'm planning to vote for McCain..

Dude, you need to get your pants back from your wife.

253 Cap'n DOC  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:33:34am

re: #218 Adrenalyn

Yup. I do. And I didn't have TV at the time, but I got the play-by-play from a neighbor who knew I'd been in the neighborhood.

254 Opinionated  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:33:36am

From Greek mythology, Obama learned a lesson?

Why did he marry Medusa?

255 infidelia  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:33:38am

re: #216 markx

Are you searching for a good divorce attorney?


/

Ah, the things we do for love. But hey, she can't follow you into that voting booth, right?

256 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:33:38am

re: #250 Intrepid

I think they will be sorry for wanting that... We have a stronger breed of people here that will fight against an and all Islamization of our country...

257 EC Marm  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:33:51am

The day that I care what a Mexican hairdresser thinks about our Presidential candidates is the day that I buy a lifetime subscription to the New York Times.

258 bill-tb  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:33:52am

Better headline -- Comrade Obama titillates all the world's socialists and tyrants. From slave reparations, to talking with thugs, to giving the dictators what they want, just like Jimmuh 'the dumb' Carter did.

And what if Israel doesn't go along with the plan for their destruction?

259 Sounder  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:33:59am

I'll give you some mythology, not necessarily Greek, but here goes: There will be change, in Washington.

260 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:34:14am

re: #251 Peacekeeper

Another gift from our open borders policy:

But the germ can infect anyone who eats contaminated fresh cheeses sold by street vendors, smuggled across the Mexican border or produced by families who try to make a living selling so-called “bathtub cheese” made in home tubs and backyard troughs.

Imported TB from third-world Mexico was already on a huge upswing.

No one cares, especially ignorant Mexican "hairdressers".

261 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:34:19am

re: #235 Pyrocles

Or so she says... I'll find a way to sneak in my vote though, damnit.

She says that she "hates" McCain. I asked her why, since he's basically a democrat in all ways except for his support for the war on terror. She just calls him "George Bush's third term", and "McSame."

She gets all of her news through NPR; listens to it religiously.

Too much "fresh air". What she really needs is solid downtime in a closet.

262 maddogg  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:34:22am

re: #250 Intrepid

What Europeans want is for the US to be dragged down into the same crappy situation they find themselves in:

1. A growing and threatening Muslim immigrant population that has paralyzed them by fear of reprisals should anyone publish one negative word or picture (including cartoons!) about the ROP

2. A stagnant and in many cases declining economy

3. A rise in fascist beliefs and violence

4. A loss of their own cultural and national distinctiveness, while embracing multi-culturalism and a generic "European" identity

5. Out and out-right cowardice, in some

Misery does love company.

Thats "progress".

263 Athos  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:35:11am

re: #250 Intrepid

Misery does love company.

Don't forget, many of the Euros do not feel as if they are in misery yet. They remain deluded by their socialism. What a lot of Euro elites do want is to see America diminished, embarrassed, and weakened. The problem is, if they get what they ask for, who will defend them? They can't pay for their own defense.

264 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:35:12am

re: #252 Richard Romano

Dude, you need to get your pants back from your wife.

And pray that your balls are still in 'em.
;-)

265 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:35:14am

re: #250 Intrepid

What Europeans want is for the US to be dragged down into the same crappy situation they find themselves in:

1. A growing and threatening Muslim immigrant population that has paralyzed them by fear of reprisals should anyone publish one negative word or picture (including cartoons!) about the ROP

2. A stagnant and in many cases declining economy

3. A rise in fascist beliefs and violence

4. A loss of their own cultural and national distinctiveness, while embracing multi-culturalism and a generic "European" identity

5. Out and out-right cowardice, in some

Misery does love company.

CHANGE!

/And they can keep it in Europe.

266 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:35:28am

re: #251 Peacekeeper

Another gift from our open borders policy:

But the germ can infect anyone who eats contaminated fresh cheeses sold by street vendors, smuggled across the Mexican border or produced by families who try to make a living selling so-called “bathtub cheese” made in home tubs and backyard troughs.

This is also why my sister and I are growing our own produce.

267 Kyle_st  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:35:37am

You all can get as snarky and smart-assed as you want, but, if I had to bet my life now, I'd bet that we'll be living under President Obama for the next 4 years. As much as that depresses me, that's how I'd bet to save my life in my little scenario here.

268 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:35:41am

Exit polls show challenge for Obama

The cappuccino versus coffee Democratic divide between upper class and working voters continued. Coffee Democrats were more likely to back Clinton while cappuccino Democrats were more likely to back Obama.

Dear Lord- now they're even dragging our coffee into it!

269 MarkX  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:36:03am

re: #261 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Yeah, that's what happens if you buy them shoes and lettem' out of the kitchen.

/

270 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:36:18am

re: #252 Richard Romano

Dude, you need to get your pants back from your wife.


I'm a woman, and I agree. I hope the sex is good and she can cook.

271 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:36:27am

re: #267 Kyle_st

You all can get as snarky and smart-assed as you want, but, if I had to bet my life now, I'd bet that we'll be living under President Obama for the next 4 years. As much as that depresses me, that's how I'd bet to save my life in my little scenario here.

But we have not yet begun to fight.

272 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:36:32am

re: #248 Russkilitlover

This is just the beginning of the sugary syrup we will have crammed down our throats for the next 5 months. The machine behind BHO is at full tilt and will most likely give him the election. McCain looks a tired, poor relation next to BHO. Someone or something needs to POSTERIZE this pretender!

With all the energy the good folk are channelling John McCain's way, he just might melt this berg.

273 Spider Mensch  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:36:37am

re: #235 Pyrocles

Or so she says... I'll find a way to sneak in my vote though, damnit.

She says that she "hates" McCain. I asked her why, since he's basically a democrat in all ways except for his support for the war on terror. She just calls him "George Bush's third term", and "McSame."

She gets all of her news through NPR; listens to it religiously.

"sneak your vote in"?

wow, does she pour the salt on your wounds after the lashes or do you do that yourself?

274 Eowyn2  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:36:51am

re: #186 OldLineTexan

my son was on that ship a couple of years ago.

275 Athos  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:36:53am

re: #268 Sharmuta

It's less shocking to use coffee as the criteria as opposed to the elites versus the bitter peasants.....

276 WrathofG-d  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:37:02am

re: #260 OldLineTexan

You racist, how dare you discriminate against Hispanic germs.

/

277 Spiny Norman  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:37:13am

re: #250 Intrepid

What Europeans want is for the US to be dragged down into the same crappy situation they find themselves in:

1. A growing and threatening Muslim immigrant population that has paralyzed them by fear of reprisals should anyone publish one negative word or picture (including cartoons!) about the ROP

2. A stagnant and in many cases declining economy

3. A rise in fascist beliefs and violence

4. A loss of their own cultural and national distinctiveness, while embracing multi-culturalism and a generic "European" identity

5. Out and out-right cowardice, in some

Misery does love company.

Yep. An excellent observation.
.

"Obama waits on the threshold of history," the Times of London declared.

Imagine the collective world-wide OUTRAGE when Obamessiah loses in November.

Despite his worshipful media coverage, Barry has so much baggage, and his policy ideas are so extreme, that the election is basically McCain's to lose. Try as he might, he'll still probably win.

278 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:37:49am

re: #268 Sharmuta

Exit polls show challenge for Obama


Dear Lord- now they're even dragging our coffee into it!


They better keep their damn hands off my damn coffee!

So what's it now, the cappuccino gap? gag. Whores.

279 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:38:30am

re: #236 tfc3rid

Now THAT would be a gift...

Don't forget: Democrats are the party of racism and slavery. You think they're ready to give it up for Barry O?

280 MarkX  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:38:34am

re: #277 Spiny Norman

Imagine the collective world-wide OUTRAGE when Obamessiah loses in November.

Yeah, that'll just make his defeat that much sweeter.

281 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:39:07am

re: #279 JammieWearingFool

Don't forget: Democrats are the party of racism and slavery. You think they're ready to give it up for Barry O?

I think they are willing to fall for him...

282 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:39:13am

re: #269 MarkX

Yeah, that's what happens if you buy them shoes and lettem' out of the kitchen.

/

In the morning, we can laugh about this. But I'm not a fool, a dreaded 3:00 AM will eventually arrive.

283 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:39:20am

re: #278 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

So what's it now, the cappuccino gap?

LOL!

284 Roger  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:39:25am
"I think this was meant to be,"

These are some of the most dangerous strung-together words the world has ever known.

285 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:39:55am

re: #219 infidelia

Wouldn't that be pronounced "odious"?

I considered maybe we'd need work that in over a period of weeks after its usage takes hold. But, what the hey..

Its new title: Obama Delirium Syndrome or (ODS), is pronounced odious.
It's much like Bush Derangement Syndrome (BDS), but differs in that it's effects are seeming more widespread.

286 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:40:00am

The SS Obama's heading into iceberg territory. Wonder which one it'll hit first?

287 Silhouette  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:40:31am

re: #200 NoSubmission

Your liberal wife is forbidding you to vote for McCain?

"Liberal" rarely has anything to do with "liberty."

As soon as any resistance is met to their plans to fix the planet, "let's force 'em" comes to mind without a moment's pause. In this case, force 'em not to. From laws outlining car mileage to mandatory light bulbs to gun bans to mandatory "volunteering" to massive taxes for whatever "good" deed that government must do.

You were just going to waste your freedom on bad choices anyway. -paraphrase of every LLL policy I've ever read.

288 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:40:53am

re: #266 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

This is also why my sister and I are growing our own produce.

It's a good idea, but here are some market tips:

1) Any offer that follows "Pssst, ya wanna buy some..." is suspect.
2) If the delivery boy is wearing a t-shirt that says Daddy's Princess and doesn't speak English, that's NOT a REAL Domino's pizza.
3) Know your roadside fruit and vegetable stands. Ex-taco trucks are a bad sign. If it has wheels, make no deals.
4) If the cheesecloth looks suspiciously like gym socks, run, do not walk.
5) Fruits and vegetables are not capable of independent motion. If the tomatoes are following you, the produce is NOT fresh.

289 alegrias  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:41:10am

re: #225 David Simon

You could be right. I don't see what all the fuss is about regarding Obama's oratory skills, so perhaps I'm reading more into it than I should.

* * *
Fidel Castro was famous for his three hour speeches; oratory is everything when the Word is made Man~

290 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:41:25am
291 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:41:31am

re: #279 JammieWearingFool

Don't forget: Democrats are the party of racism and slavery. You think they're ready to give it up for Barry O?

Maybe. Anyone care to postulate what might happen say if, God forbid, Barry O. loses?

Mass hysteria among moonbats?

292 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:41:31am

re: #267 Kyle_st

You all can get as snarky and smart-assed as you want.

Thanks, Charles!

293 Eowyn2  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:41:33am

re: #226 BGOH

You can't talk about this. It is racist to talk about the exclusive wealthy community in which he resides. My word do we live in a hateful, racist country!

/


that doesnt help my children

294 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:42:03am

re: #279 JammieWearingFool

Don't forget: Democrats are the party of racism and slavery. You think they're ready to give it up for Barry O?

I caught a snippet of some black congressman who endorsed Obama yesterday and called in to "Brian and the Judge" this morning to report that his office had been inundated with angry RACIST calls from Hillary supporters. One of his staffers left in tears.

295 Ojoe  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:42:10am

This whole thing smells of idolatry.

296 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:42:14am

re: #288 OldLineTexan

It's a good idea, but here are some market tips:

1) Any offer that follows "Pssst, ya wanna buy some..." is suspect.
2) If the delivery boy is wearing a t-shirt that says Daddy's Princess and doesn't speak English, that's NOT a REAL Domino's pizza.
3) Know your roadside fruit and vegetable stands. Ex-taco trucks are a bad sign. If it has wheels, make no deals.
4) If the cheesecloth looks suspiciously like gym socks, run, do not walk.
5) Fruits and vegetables are not capable of independent motion. If the tomatoes are following you, the produce is NOT fresh.

LOL!

297 realwest  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:42:19am

"But like Icarus, Obama wouldn't heed his elder's advice. Icarus would crash into the sea. Obama would learn from his own crash in New Hampshire and make history."
OMG, ROTFLMAO! What history has he made? I mean, ok, he's gone further than any Black person has in a political party nominating process. But he hasn't been nominated YET.
And even if he is nominated, he has to win the Election (although I'd give him tons of credit for winning the nomination) and if he wins the election, kudos for becoming the first Black President.
Then what?
I mean that seriously. What will Obama do to earn his mark in history as a US President?

Anyone?

Bueller?

298 infidelia  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:43:13am

re: #286 Honorary Yooper

The SS Obama's heading into iceberg territory. Wonder which one it'll hit first?

There are encouraging similarities. The sea was flat and calm, the ship was "unsinkable", loaded with big-money supporters, looking to set a record, and oh yeah, somebody forgot the binoculars.

Keep stackin' them deck chairs, people.

299 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:43:16am

re: #295 Ojoe

This whole thing smells of idolatry.

You got that right!

300 alegrias  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:43:23am

re: #232 JammieWearingFool

When I keep getting Massachusetts Democrats telling me they're voting for McCain, I suspect you can dismiss the polls.

* * *
Well the Kennedy family did give John McCain one of their "Profiles In Courage" award statuettes, before Obama came along!

301 kansas  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:44:29am

Re: 286

The SS Obama's heading into iceberg territory. Wonder which one it'll hit first?

Won't matter. Media will spin it positively even as he sinks. Let's see, headlines "Captain Obama personally passed out the lifejackets and launched the lifeboats."

302 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:44:44am

Well, we can count on there being no terror attacks between now and November 4. After all, they need capitulators in power and GWB would kick their asses.

303 Eowyn2  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:44:47am

re: #278 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

They better keep their damn hands off my damn coffee!

So what's it now, the cappuccino gap? gag. Whores.

What will they call the gap between mccain supporters and obamamama supporters. I've got five bucks on the geritol gap. Any takers?

304 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:45:16am

re: #303 Eowyn2

What will they call the gap between mccain supporters and obamamama supporters. I've got five bucks on the geritol gap. Any takers?

The Viagra Gap?

305 infidelia  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:45:17am

re: #294 redstateredneck

I caught a snippet of some black congressman who endorsed Obama yesterday and called in to "Brian and the Judge" this morning to report that his office had been inundated with angry RACIST calls from Hillary supporters. One of his staffers left in tears.

Ooooops, Hillary's disguise got busted.

306 realwest  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:45:19am

re: #267 Kyle_st HEY! Congratulations! You made it to 100 comments since 2004!
You really are an inspiration to us all!

307 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:45:24am

re: #299 Sharmuta

You got that right!

Well, he is building a religion.

308 Roger  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:45:37am

re: #271 Oh no...Sand People!

But we have not yet begun to fight.

We? Didn't you hear McCain proclaiming Obama a worthy [of losing to] opponent and that McCain is going to run a sweet and pleasant campaign?

309 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:45:50am

re: #304 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

The angry old white men gap.

310 DownRightMeanAmerican  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:45:54am

Grandma isn’t happy about Obama’s nomination

311 Silhouette  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:46:27am

re: #295 Ojoe

This whole thing smells of idolatry.

Without a doubt.

312 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:46:31am
He was an average student, but very active.

Pretty much wraps it up.

313 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:46:49am

re: #308 Roger

We? Didn't you hear McCain proclaiming Obama a worthy [of losing to] opponent and that McCain is going to run a sweet and pleasant campaign?

McCain damn well better not play Bob Dole. Had Dole been the slightest bit mean, Clinton may have been gone after 4 years.

314 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:46:58am

re: #297 realwest

Universale healthcare...
Reversal of the Patriot Act
Reversal of the Bush Tax Cuts
End US Involvement in the War on Terror

It's all there baby!

315 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:47:21am
He was an average student, but very active.


Should have given him some Ritalin.

316 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:47:37am

re: #314 tfc3rid

Universale healthcare...
Reversal of the Patriot Act
Reversal of the Bush Tax Cuts
End US Involvement in the War on Terror

It's all there baby!

Not to mention revival of the Fairness Doctrine.

317 Eowyn2  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:47:37am

re: #270 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I'm a woman, and I agree. I hope the sex is good and she can cook.

forget getting the pants back, pick up a US flag and tell her that the kids need to have a modicum of leadership.

318 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:47:43am
319 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:47:59am

re: #315 redstateredneck

Should have given him some Ritalin.

Are they talking about Obama or GWB.


Gotta work, bbl

320 zmdavid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:48:27am

re: #314 tfc3rid

Universale healthcare...
Reversal of the Patriot Act
Reversal of the Bush Tax Cuts
End US Involvement in the War on Terror

It's all there baby!

Don't forget - ironfisted control of the weather. Climate Stasis.

321 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:48:28am

re: #307 Honorary Yooper

Well, he is building a religion.

You got that right!

/lol

322 gearhead  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:49:07am

When thermostats are outlawed,
Only outlaws will have air-conditioning.

323 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:49:10am

re: #306 realwest

HEY! Congratulations! You made it to 100 comments since 2004!
You really are an inspiration to us all!

Yikes!
LOL

324 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:49:31am

re: #308 Roger

We? Didn't you hear McCain proclaiming Obama a worthy [of losing to] opponent and that McCain is going to run a sweet and pleasant campaign?

Fighting for Freedom and fighting for McCain are 2 different things. Never mentioned McCain as the object of the 'begun to fight." If McCain eventually chooses to join in, which I hope he does eventually, I will let him.

325 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:49:36am

re: #305 infidelia

Ooooops, Hillary's disguise got busted.

You can hear it on FNC - Click on Fox News Radio. I don't have sound at work, but that's got to be it.

326 realwest  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:49:46am

re: #232 JammieWearingFool Ah, Jammie my friend.
Please don't forget that Sen. Ted Kennedy and Sen.
John effin' F. Kerry both came out VERY EARLY ON to support Obama.
Do you mean to say you think the voters in Taxachussetts are going to NOT vote the way their US Senators, both of whom have been re-elected to office and are far from political newbies, tell them to?
LOL!

327 zmdavid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:50:00am

"Change" is good. "Climate Change" is bad.

328 alegrias  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:50:00am

re: #268 Sharmuta

Exit polls show challenge for Obama


Dear Lord- now they're even dragging our coffee into it!

* * *
Arabica Coffee Beans--of course it's critical to discuss coffee drinking.

[Link: arabicabeans.wordpress.com...]

329 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:50:01am

re: #316 Honorary Yooper

Not to mention revival of the Fairness Doctrine.

Holy crap, how could I have forgotten THAT ONE.

330 EC Marm  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:50:02am

re: #306 realwest

HEY! Congratulations! You made it to 100 comments since 2004!
You really are an inspiration to us all!


Hey, she's busy with her job cutting hair in Mexico City.

331 Silhouette  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:50:24am

The myth that Obama supporters need to be learning from is The Emperor's New Clothes.

Instead of stupid or unfit for their position, they are afraid of being thought a racist if they notice that he is a racist marxist with no experience.

332 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:50:25am

re: #322 gearhead

When thermostats are outlawed,
Only outlaws will have air-conditioning.

And the party elite. Don't forget them. They'll have a/c and heat, as well as big cars with free gasoline becasue they're the party elite.

333 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:51:02am

We've got to keep 'The Obama List'...

334 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:52:08am
335 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:52:34am

re: #304 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

The Viagra Gap?

You think alot of them youtes need Viagra?

336 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:53:27am

Would Susan the Mexican hairdresser have been as impactful if her name was Rosalita?

Inquiring minds want to know.

337 Athos  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:53:34am

re: #297 realwest

I mean that seriously. What will Obama do to earn his mark in history as a US President?

Make Carter look good.

338 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:53:34am

re: #335 Nevergiveup

You think alot of them youtes need Viagra?

Well with as much as Obama smokes and has done drugs, he'll need Viagra long before McCain might.

339 Roger  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:53:52am

re: #324 Oh no...Sand People!

I'm with you. That's why the we question because McCain will not fight and has a slim chance of winning.

I'll be fighting against either one that gains the White House. Hopefully only 2 years for Obama and only 4 for McCain.

340 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:53:52am

re: #337 Athos

Make Carter look good.

Now that's scary.

341 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:53:59am

Well[Link: www.breitbart.com...] Guess I will not be seeing the new Indiana Jones movie:

342 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:54:03am
343 Eowyn2  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:54:20am

re: #309 redstateredneck

The angry old white men gap.

does not account for females.

344 landline  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:54:52am

re: #81 ArmyWife

If Obama doesn't win in November we Americans will have let down the world...and will have proved ourselves to be heartless, greedy, racist morons.

Vote Obama and the world will love us!

So many Liberals claim that "America is too racist to elect a black president." Liberals believe in America's racism more than they believe in social justice and global warming. If Senator Obama is elected president, how will progressives continue to claim that we are a civilization that oppresses people of color? What would be their new mantra?

345 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:54:57am

re: #338 Honorary Yooper

Well with as much as Obama smokes and has done drugs, he'll need Viagra long before McCain might.

Especially considering their spouses. This is not a trivial issue.

346 gearhead  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:55:15am

re: #332 Honorary Yooper

Dachas. Don't forget the dachas.

Oh, and after 1/20/09, it's "Dear Leader", not "Mr. President."

347 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:55:42am

re: #343 Eowyn2

does not account for females.

They are also angry at old white men from my experience. Ur..of course not MY wife?

348 realwest  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:55:43am

This has probably already been picked up by some lizards, but just in case:

Obama speaks with Clinton, says party can be united
WASHINGTON - Barack Obama spoke directly with his vanquished rival Hillary Rodham Clinton on Wednesday and expressed optimism they could achieve party unity after their bruising battle for the Democratic presidential nomination. He also accused Republican rival John McCain of supporting a "plan for staying, not a plan for victory" in Iraq.[emphasis and a WTH? from realwest]
As he traded jabs with McCain over national security policy, Obama visited the Senate where Democrats and Republicans shook his hand and congratulated him. The Illinois senator disclosed he had spoken with Clinton, who was not in the Senate, earlier on the day after he claimed the nomination and she stopped short of conceding.

"I just spoke to her today, and we're going to be having a conversation in coming weeks. And I'm very confident how unified the Democratic party's going to be to win in November," Obama told reporters as he left the Senate.

Asked if Clinton indicated she planned to concede, Obama replied, "It wasn't a detailed conversation. As I said, I'm very confident of how we're going to be able to bring the party together." He dismissed a question about her refusal to concede after the final two primaries Tuesday night by saying she was "understandably focused on her supporters."
Oh and, as if you couldn't tell, this was reported by the Associated (with Terrorists) Press.
[Link: enews.earthlink.net...]

349 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:55:58am

re: #314 tfc3rid

Universale healthcare...
Reversal of the Patriot Act
Reversal of the Bush Tax Cuts
End US Involvement in the War on Terror
Reinstatement of the Fairness Doctrine

other BO campaign promises to add to this list?

350 alegrias  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:56:04am

re: #346 gearhead

Dachas. Don't forget the dachas.

Oh, and after 1/20/09, it's "Dear Leader", not "Mr. President."

* * *
Beloved Rockstar Leader!

351 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:56:12am

re: #344 landline

So many Liberals claim that "America is too racist to elect a black president." Liberals believe in America's racism more than they believe in social justice and global warming. If Senator Obama is elected president, how will progressives continue to claim that we are a civilization that oppresses people of color? What would be their new mantra?

They'll find one. If something bad were to happen to President Obama (God, that was painful typing that), they'd be back to the old mantra PDQ.

352 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:56:17am

re: #341 Nevergiveup

Well[Link: www.breitbart.com...] Guess I will not be seeing the new Indiana Jones movie:

You just finding out he's a moonbat?

353 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:56:54am

re: #349 unrealizedviewpoint

other BO campaign promises to add to this list?

Iranian "preparations".

354 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:57:09am

re: #343 Eowyn2

does not account for females.

Angy old white peoples.

355 Rednek  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:57:12am

Who needs Viagra with this big global orgasm going on over Obama?

356 Russkilitlover  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:57:29am

re: #268 Sharmuta

Exit polls show challenge for Obama


Dear Lord- now they're even dragging our coffee into it!

This is actually a clever way to close the divide that this protracted primary caused in the Demo party. Playing on the un-hippness of the "coffee" drinkers. Play the elite envy card. Those voters who were for Hillary will have no problem attaching to BHO. They will probably become his most ardent supporters.

357 Roger  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:57:32am

Practice folks, practice.

First Lady Michelle Obama

It is only 8 syllables.

358 JohnnyReb  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:57:33am

re: #344 landline

So many Liberals claim that "America is too racist to elect a black president." Liberals believe in America's racism more than they believe in social justice and global warming. If Senator Obama is elected president, how will progressives continue to claim that we are a civilization that oppresses people of color? What would be their new mantra?

I have asked that very question on a few threads already.

I pretty much think that the LLL/MSM will say something to the effect of:

"This is a very important step in the long journey ahead that may one day see America part with it's racist past, etc., blah, blah, blah.

359 realwest  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:57:54am

re: #348 realwest Just in case all y'all missed it, Obama was talking about a plan for Victory in Iraq!

Oh, and please disregard that loud BOOOM y'all just heard, it was just the heads of many KosKids exploding at that! LOL!

360 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:57:57am

re: #349 unrealizedviewpoint

other BO campaign promises to add to this list?

Approval of Government Funding for Embryonic Stem Cell Research

361 Charles  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:58:11am

Testing...

362 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:58:13am

re: #345 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Especially considering their spouses. This is not a trivial issue.

Michelle WAB Obama could be a little hard to please.

363 EC Marm  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:58:16am

re: #297 realwest


I mean that seriously. What will Obama do to earn his mark in history as a US President?


He'll make life easier for people that have trouble remembering which is Iraq and which is Iran. By the end of his term, they'll be the same country.

364 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:58:32am

re: #349 unrealizedviewpoint

other BO campaign promises to add to this list?

Total gutting of the Defense Budget
End of "Star Wars"
End of the " Missile Defense Systems"
Last person out of Israel, Please turn off the lights!

365 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:58:35am
366 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:58:38am

re: #361 Charles

Testing...


I didn't know we were having a test today.

367 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:58:48am

re: #349 unrealizedviewpoint

other BO campaign promises to add to this list?

the signing of Cap and Trade

368 Rednek  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:58:50am

re: #349 unrealizedviewpoint

other BO campaign promises to add to this list?

Telling corporations how to spend their money.

369 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:58:59am

re: #359 realwest


Does Victory in Iraq mean leaving? Last I checked Victory is not brought about by scurrying away...

370 Pyrocles  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:59:10am

I don't understand how anyone could support reversing the Patriot Act... Has everyone forgotten 9/11 completely (aside from us here, of course)? The people and ideology that caused 9/11 are still out there, and will stop at nothing to repeat or surpass that attack.

re: #314 tfc3rid

Universale healthcare...
Reversal of the Patriot Act
Reversal of the Bush Tax Cuts
End US Involvement in the War on Terror

It's all there baby!

371 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:59:12am

re: #352 redstateredneck

You just finding out he's a moonbat?

No, But the straw that broke the camels back so to speak

372 realwest  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:59:20am

re: #349 unrealizedviewpoint Yep - ya gotta add "Victory in Iraq" (see my #346 and #359).

373 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:59:23am

re: #366 NJDhockeyfan

I didn't know we were having a test today.

I didn't study at all.

374 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:59:31am

re: #339 Roger

I'm with you. That's why the we question because McCain will not fight and has a slim chance of winning.

I'll be fighting against either one that gains the White House. Hopefully only 2 years for Obama and only 4 for McCain.

I really want McCain to wake up, but he thinks giving conservatives the reach around is the best way to go. He has sold out / is selling out / will continue to sell out the conservative base to get the 2% percent fringe of Hillary's insane base has to offer...Hooray for a wide stance tent.

375 WrathofG-d  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:59:37am

re: #369 tfc3rid

In the New Obama America, Surrender = Victory.

376 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:59:37am

re: #310 DownRightMeanAmerican

Grandma isn’t happy about Obama’s nomination

Shoot him in his toodles!

377 christheprofessor  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:59:40am

re: #344 landline

If Senator Obama is elected president, how will progressives continue to claim that we are a civilization that oppresses people of color? What would be their new mantra?

They'll say we voted for his white half...

378 alegrias  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:59:41am

re: #369 tfc3rid

Does Victory in Iraq mean leaving? Last I checked Victory is not brought about by scurrying away...

* * *
It means "Declaring Victory" in Iraq, then leaving.

379 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 10:59:51am

US Joining the International Court...

380 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:00:12am

re: #366 NJDhockeyfan

I didn't know we were having a test today.

Pop quiz.

381 coquimbojoe  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:00:14am

re: #342 buzzsawmonkey

There are a few other lessons Obama better learn from Greek mythology, before he starts living off the public dime in the White House:

1) Only Heracles can clean out the Augean Stables. You are not Heracles.

2) The only way to defeat the Hydra is to burn the stumps once its heads are cut off, and then bury the immortal head beneath a rock.

3) Use a mirror when looking at the Medusa.

4) Don't go into the Labyrinth without a ball of string.

5) Listen to what Cassandra is telling you; do not listen to Al Gore.

6) Wars do not always go according to a convenient schedule. The Trojan War lasted ten years.

7) Deceit is sometimes necessary to achieve victory. You may need to use a Trojan Horse yourself, but you should be wary of "Greeks bearing gifts."

8) Know what is going to happen before you sow the dragon's teeth, and be prepared.

9) The American economy must not be placed on the Procrustes Bed of progressive ideology.

10) Many have tried to roll the rock of socialism to the top of the American hill. They all shared the fate of Sisyphus.

Nice handle on the Greek Mythology, My only catch was in the article they said Icarus' wings were of wax... It was the wax that held the bronze feathers to them that melted.... for what ever that is worth.

382 Roger  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:00:26am

re: #366 NJDhockeyfan

I didn't know we were having a test today.

Pop quiz!

383 wanumba  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:00:34am

"The whole world" .... as usual, EVERYBODY thinks this, therefore it MUST be the truth ... classic Progressive pressuring. YOU don't want to be the ONLY one who doesn't GET it ... YOU are OUT of STEP.
That's the argument.
Now for whether it's the truth or not ... Obama pissed off the KENYANS during his little "Roots" trip - and indeed that's EXACTLY what it was billed as ..."returning to his grandmother's farm." Grannie was indifferent, familial relations in polygamous societies are not what we in monogamous societies expect, so Obama SHOULD have been feting his OWN mother to correctly conform to normal Kenyan family expectations. Plus, Obama began criticising his hosts, so he left, the glow off after just a couple of days. What a diplomat!
And for the REST of the world ... they ONLY get AP/Reuters/AFP/NYT via International Herald Tribune and ubiquitous NYT inserts in national papers, so WHAT should we all expect the world to think of the USA? They get it ALL from the Hard Progressive Left. There are ZERO opportunities for people in other countries to hear a different point of view. They have not arrived at their view of the USA via a balanced examination of the issues, they are spoon-fed Anti-American propaganda from American Leftists. The only contrary views that come in are from relatives who've gone to the USA, either visiting or immigrating and send back word, "This place is GREAT!"
The media actively promotes a negative image of the USA, then reports back, "Oh, Why do they hate us?"
"Cause YOU taught them to, you disgusting sneaking liars."

Say Obama and Ghaddafi to any African from Nigeria to Kenya and see the warm fuzzy glow flame out in a hurry. The media didn't didn't bother to mention THAT, did they?

384 Rednek  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:00:38am

re: #375 WrathofG-d

In the New Obama America, Surrender = Victory.

Change that to Submission = Victory

385 experiencedtraveller  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:00:39am

re: #342 buzzsawmonkey

I fear our boy Obama has a bit too much of Young Jason (before the Argonauts) in him...

386 JohnnyReb  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:00:44am

re: #379 tfc3rid

US Joining the International Court...

And approving the UN mandate of small arms prohibition.

387 gearhead  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:00:58am

re: #361 Charles

Testing...

I left my cup in that little revolving cabinet. Am I done?

388 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:01:07am
389 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:01:07am

re: #357 Roger

I shall not practice
I don't think I will
I shall not try
I think I'd rather have Hill

I do not like Obama
I like them not
I'd rather have green eggs and ham
Sam I am

Obama's party will merge
Only after the purge
He is the Messiah to bat
But only if you're a raving moonbat

390 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:01:10am
391 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:01:22am

re: #361 Charles

Testing...

Did we pass?

392 Charles  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:01:26am

Comment ratings now show up in the Spy, by the way...

393 David Simon  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:01:28am

re: #289 alegrias

* * *
Fidel Castro was famous for his three hour speeches; oratory is everything when the Word is made Man~

It's sad that the "world" is blowing its collective load over someone who spews stale bromides (yet says nothing).

394 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:01:31am

re: #363 EC Marm

He'll make life easier for people that have trouble remembering which is Iraq and which is Iran. By the end of his term, they'll be the same country.

The truth sometimes hurts. Ouch!

395 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:01:43am

re: #386 JohnnyReb

And approving the UN mandate of small arms prohibition.

Yes...

So where is the list now?

396 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:01:47am

re: #386 JohnnyReb

And approving the UN mandate of small arms prohibition.

And kiss them Cluster Bombs good bye

397 realwest  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:02:04am

re: #377 christheprofessor Hey there my friend - what's with the (cool) new avatar?!

398 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:02:06am

re: #392 Charles

Comment ratings now show up in the Spy, by the way...

Always hard at work Charles... Glad you're on our side man...

399 Charles  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:02:06am

If you see me rating things up or down, it's just for testing...

400 alegrias  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:02:09am

re: #374 Oh no...Sand People!

I really want McCain to wake up, but he thinks giving conservatives the reach around is the best way to go. He has sold out / is selling out / will continue to sell out the conservative base to get the 2% percent fringe of Hillary's insane base has to offer...Hooray for a wide stance tent.

* * *
McCain thinks saving the COUNTRY is the best way to go.

If conservatives don't agree winning the war is job number one, as McCain does, conservatives are at least in agreement with democrats.

401 zmdavid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:02:11am

re: #342 buzzsawmonkey

Narcissus should be in there somewhere.

402 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:02:45am
403 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:02:46am

Liberalism / Progressivism leads to only one end result: ULTIMATE CONFORMITY!

OBAMA 08!
'Select groups can be poor and miserable equally!'

/

404 Roger  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:02:47am

re: #379 tfc3rid

US Joining the International Court...

Aaaarrrgggggh!

So how many here will physically defend Bush and Cheney when Barry hands them over to the ICC?

405 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:03:12am

Global Warming melted Icarus's wings! Vote Change - Vote Obama!

406 markx  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:03:14am

re: #355 Rednek

Who needs Viagra with this big global orgasm going on over Obama?


Chris Matthews sure doesn't.

407 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:03:34am

re: #386 JohnnyReb

And approving the UN mandate of small arms prohibition.

Never mind it violates the 2nd Amendment.

408 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:04:20am

President Bush looks great today. He looks like a guy with 95% approval ratings. He is Strong, Masterful, and Decisive!
Oh he is sitting next to OLMERT, so it's only by comparison. Never Mind.

409 Roger  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:04:50am

re: #389 Honorary Yooper

Excellent work!

410 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:04:51am

Maybe Barry can get some spare monikers from Kim Jun Il:

Supreme Commander at the Forefront of the Struggle Against Imperialism and the United States
Greatest Saint Who Rules with Extensive Magnanimity
Lode Star of the Twenty-First Century
Best Leader Who Realized Human Wisdom
Leader with Extraordinary Personality
Perfect Picture of Wisdom and Boldness
Eternal Bosom of Hot Love
Master of Literature, Arts, and Architecture
World’s Best Ideal Leader with Versatile Talents
Humankind’s Greatest Musical Genius
Master of the Computer Who Surprised the World
Man with Encyclopedic Knowledge
Guardian Deity of the Planet
Heaven-Sent Hero
Power Incarnate with Endless Creativity
Greatest Man Who Ever Lived
Present-day God
World’s Greatest Writer

411 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:05:18am
412 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:05:19am

re: #400 alegrias

* * *
McCain thinks saving the COUNTRY is the best way to go.

If conservatives don't agree winning the war is job number one, as McCain does, conservatives are at least in agreement with democrats.

Conservatives are all for winning the war. We are also all for having something at home worth fighting for.

America is still the best country. We would like to keep it that way.

413 Silhouette  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:05:25am

re: #370 Pyrocles

The people and ideology that caused 9/11 are still out there, and will stop at nothing to repeat or surpass that attack.

They firmly believe the people and ideology that caused 9/11 are the US and our "policies," respectively. And I'm not talking about the troofers who believe we literally caused it.

Thus, the Patriot Act caused 9/11. And the Iraq was caused 9/11. (Timelines be darned). Stop the act, withdraw, and we'll get world peace.

414 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:05:28am

re: #392 Charles

Comment ratings now show up in the Spy, by the way...

That is really cool!

415 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:05:32am

Okay, here's what i got so far:

Universale healthcare...
Reversal of the Patriot Act
Reversal of the Bush Tax Cuts
End US Involvement in the War on Terror
Declaring Victory" in Iraq, then leaving
Reinstatement of the Fairness Doctrine
Massive Defense Budget reductions
Abandoning allies such as Israel
Windfall Profits Taxes imposed upon oil co's
Signing of Cap and Trade legislation

additional?

416 markx  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:05:41am

re: #386 JohnnyReb

And approving the UN mandate of small arms prohibition.


LOL, yeah right. I want to see a blue helmet come to my house and try to enforce it.

417 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:05:53am

re: #382 Roger

Pop quiz!

Shoot the hostage.

418 realwest  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:06:03am

re: #392 Charles Ah, that was what you were testing, right (whew, forgot to study for any test given to us!). Or were you concerned that when the koskids head's exploded after hearing Barry say Victory not just staying in Iraq it mighta messed up the blogsphere?!

419 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:06:05am
420 markx  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:06:06am

re: #415 unrealizedviewpoint

Okay, here's what i got so far:

Universale healthcare...
Reversal of the Patriot Act
Reversal of the Bush Tax Cuts
End US Involvement in the War on Terror
Declaring Victory" in Iraq, then leaving
Reinstatement of the Fairness Doctrine
Massive Defense Budget reductions
Abandoning allies such as Israel
Windfall Profits Taxes imposed upon oil co's
Signing of Cap and Trade legislation

additional?

Free beer?

421 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:06:24am

re: #417 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

LOL! I love that line.

422 infidelia  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:07:03am

re: #410 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Maybe Barry can get some spare monikers from Kim Jun Il:

Supreme Commander at the Forefront of the Struggle Against Imperialism and the United States
Greatest Saint Who Rules with Extensive Magnanimity
Lode Star of the Twenty-First Century
Best Leader Who Realized Human Wisdom
Leader with Extraordinary Personality
Perfect Picture of Wisdom and Boldness
Eternal Bosom of Hot Love
Master of Literature, Arts, and Architecture
World’s Best Ideal Leader with Versatile Talents
Humankind’s Greatest Musical Genius
Master of the Computer Who Surprised the World
Man with Encyclopedic Knowledge
Guardian Deity of the Planet
Heaven-Sent Hero
Power Incarnate with Endless Creativity
Greatest Man Who Ever Lived
Present-day God
World’s Greatest Writer

If he's not using Eternal Bosom of Hot Love, may I borrow it?

423 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:07:05am

re: #410 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Maybe Barry can get some spare monikers from Kim Jun Il:

Supreme Commander at the Forefront of the Struggle Against Imperialism and the United States
Greatest Saint Who Rules with Extensive Magnanimity
Lode Star of the Twenty-First Century
Best Leader Who Realized Human Wisdom
Leader with Extraordinary Personality
Perfect Picture of Wisdom and Boldness
Eternal Bosom of Hot Love
Master of Literature, Arts, and Architecture
World’s Best Ideal Leader with Versatile Talents
Humankind’s Greatest Musical Genius
Master of the Computer Who Surprised the World
Man with Encyclopedic Knowledge
Guardian Deity of the Planet
Heaven-Sent Hero
Power Incarnate with Endless Creativity
Greatest Man Who Ever Lived
Present-day God
World’s Greatest Writer

You forgot Last King of Scotland.
/I know that was Idi Amin

424 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:07:07am

re: #416 markx

LOL, yeah right. I want to see a blue helmet come to my house and try to enforce it.

No way I'd let a blue helmeted pedo around my kids.

425 christheprofessor  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:07:20am

re: #397 realwest

Hey there my friend - what's with the (cool) new avatar?!

That's the Three (Canine) Amigos: Lightning, Sadie, and Romeo

426 Spider Mensch  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:07:24am

if nothing the next few months will be interesting. I will use my mother and eldest sister as a litmus test of the shillary supporters going over to obama. both are heavy BDS suffers and shillary supporters, both have stated they don't trust obama..we shall see what happens with them. my other sister is also for obama because her soon to be ex husband is a staunch conservative, she's for obama out of hatred for her ex....hatred trumps common sense. I have a fealing that BDS will trump common sense with the other too. And that could be a real problem come November.

427 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:07:26am

re: #415 unrealizedviewpoint

US Joining the International Criminal Court...

428 HDrepub  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:07:28am

Where I hale from, what is going on here is called "blowing smoke up Obama's ass". Since I am not very articulate with the English language, due mostly to my unwillingness to seek a higher education, that sums it up for me quite well. Problem is Obama is really sucking all this up, and is beginning to show some arrogance with all this adoration.

Pride goeth before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.

429 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:07:59am

re: #422 infidelia

If he's not using Eternal Bosom of Hot Love, may I borrow it?

Should be a rotating title!

430 alegrias  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:08:19am

re: #412 Oh no...Sand People!

Conservatives are all for winning the war. We are also all for having something at home worth fighting for.

America is still the best country. We would like to keep it that way.

* * *
If America's not worth the fighting for today, with all her faults, for you, by all means vote for Obama with the rest of the world.

The World Can't Wait, you know. Obama will CHANGE America for you.

431 gearhead  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:08:23am

Seriously, folks, no matter how you feel about McCain or Obama, there are probably some candidates in local races in your area who have little in the way of resources and really count on volunteers to get their messages out. Get to know them and help out if you can.

432 Silhouette  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:08:51am

re: #407 Honorary Yooper

Never mind it violates the 2nd Amendment.

The US Constitution is racist because it denies world control over our country.

If we were "global" like good little world citizens, we'd see that.

433 experiencedtraveller  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:09:04am

I am a tragically flawed human being.

Could someone please explain to me the advantages of the LGF Spy?

434 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:09:05am

Basic Right to a College Education

435 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:09:06am
If he's not using Eternal Bosom of Hot Love, may I borrow it?

You had me at eternal bosom.

436 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:09:21am

re: #428 HDrepub

Where I hale from, what is going on here is called "blowing smoke up Obama's ass". Since I am not very articulate with the English language, due mostly to my unwillingness to seek a higher education, that sums it up for me quite well. Problem is Obama is really sucking all this up, and is beginning to show some arrogance with all this adoration.

Pride goeth before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.

Your English is fine and the benefits of a higher education ( whatever that is?) is greatly over estimated.

437 Ojoe  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:09:24am

re: #349 unrealizedviewpoint

other BO campaign promises to add to this list?

"Not enough to eat all we want, but other countries will then say "OK."

*Spit*

438 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:09:57am

re: #422 infidelia

If he's not using Eternal Bosom of Hot Love, may I borrow it?

Heh. Your name isn't "McLovin" perchance? :-)

439 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:10:07am

Comprehensive Immigration Reform

440 Dahveed  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:10:17am

I, for one, have just made a contribution to the Republican National Committee. I cannot sit idly by and just watch this Obama Bozo become president and let us become France.

441 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:10:17am

Universale healthcare...
Reversal of the Patriot Act
Reversal of the Bush Tax Cuts
End US Involvement in the War on Terror
Declaring Victory" in Iraq, then leaving
Reinstatement of the Fairness Doctrine
Massive Defense Budget reductions
Abandoning allies such as Israel
Windfall Profits Taxes imposed upon oil co's
Signing of Cap and Trade legislation
Liberal appointments to the Supreme Court

I'm looking for talking points any lizard can carry as a pocket card. Not obscure, unknowns.
More?

442 markx  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:10:21am

re: #435 really grumpy big dog Johnson

You had me at eternal bosom.


Jeez, some people are so easy.

443 zmdavid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:10:23am

re: #433 experiencedtraveller

I am a tragically flawed human being.

Could someone please explain to me the advantages of the LGF Spy?

I can't read that fast. Maybe at 3 a.m. when there aren't so many comments...

444 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:10:31am
445 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:10:40am

re: #434 tfc3rid

Basic Right to a College Education

That's the BRCE bill. It's only about 3.3 trillion dollars. In a great society, this is meaningless.

446 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:10:51am

re: #440 Dahveed

I, for one, have just made a contribution to the Republican National
Committee. I cannot sit idly by and just watch this Obama Bozo become
president and let us become France.

At least they're allowed to use nuclear power in France.

447 El Anti-Idiotario  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:10:58am

re: #183 Pyrocles

That's why my liberal wife likes Obama now that Hillary's gone. She's an ex-Canadian who believes Canada's Socialist government is superior to the U.S. system, and that Obama will make the U.S. more "Canadian". This will make the U.S. loved by everyone, just like Canada...

She forbids me from voting if I'm planning to vote for McCain...

Forbids you?
Dude, This is AMERICA, Land of the free!

/At least until Barry comes...

448 Cap'n DOC  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:11:03am

re: #267 Kyle_st

Describe for me 'this little scenario', Karnak. Please. Your visits are so infrequent that I'm loath to depend on your predictability - if you get my drift.

449 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:11:06am

re: #441 unrealizedviewpoint

Federal funding for Embryonic stem cell research...

450 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:11:10am

re: #440 Dahveed

I, for one, have just made a contribution to the Republican National Committee. I cannot sit idly by and just watch this Obama Bozo become president and let us become France.

Congratulations! You're the first this year.

/

451 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:11:13am

Hmmm. You think Obama might have trouble with the Palestinians now that he's on the record saying that he believes in an undivided Jerusalem as capital of Israel?

So, unless Obama now has the power to create new land (on top of his previously announced powers over ocean levels and the healing of the planet), he's lying to someone.

The trick is to figure out who he's lying to.

Dollars to donuts, he's lying to AIPAC - because he needs their votes.

452 jcm  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:11:15am

re: #415 unrealizedviewpoint

Okay, here's what i got so far:

Universale healthcare...
Reversal of the Patriot Act
Reversal of the Bush Tax Cuts
End US Involvement in the War on Terror
Declaring Victory" in Iraq, then leaving
Reinstatement of the Fairness Doctrine
Massive Defense Budget reductions
Abandoning allies such as Israel
Windfall Profits Taxes imposed upon oil co's
Signing of Cap and Trade legislation

additional?

End the threat of guns in civilian hands
Expand entitlements.
Tax the carp out of the rich.

453 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:11:17am

re: #425 christheprofessor

That's the Three (Canine) Amigos: Lightning, Sadie, and Romeo

They look like they're having a fine time!

454 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:11:24am

e: #412 Oh no...Sand People!

Conservatives are all for winning the war. We are also all for having something at home worth fighting for.

America is still the best country. We would like to keep it that way.

* * *
If America's not worth the fighting for today, with all her faults, for you, by all means vote for Obama with the rest of the world.

The World Can't Wait, you know. Obama will CHANGE America for you.

Did I say America isn't worth fighting for? Put words in my mouth.

455 Silhouette  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:11:25am

re: #446 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

At least they're allowed to use nuclear power in France.

They smoke there too.

456 Iron Fist  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:11:43am
Senate dean Robert Byrd cautioned him not to be in too much of a rush to leave for burned a cross on the White House lawn


Byrd sending a warning.

457 yesandno  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:11:53am
I mean, come on now. This is just absurd. From Greek mythology, Obama learned a lesson.

WASHINGTON - To understand how Barack Obama won the presidential primary, you have to look at what he learned when he lost.

Obama defeated Hillary Rodham Clinton solidly in the Iowa caucuses in January, but five days later she beat him, painfully and unexpectedly, in New Hampshire. That loss showed him that toppling the royal family of Democratic politics would not come easily.

"I think this was meant to be," Obama said privately the next day, recalls adviser David Axelrod. "I think we were flying too close to the sun, like Icarus. When you're fighting for change, it's not supposed to be easy."

In Greek mythology, Icarus' father gives him wax wings that empower him to fly, but warns of the danger in soaring too high. Obama got similar warnings. When he arrived in Washington, Senate dean Robert Byrd cautioned him not to be in too much of a rush to leave for the White House.

But like Icarus, Obama wouldn't heed his elder's advice. Icarus would crash into the sea. Obama would learn from his own crash in New Hampshire and make history.

If I were bulimic, this would work betters then my fingers jammed down my throat to achieve the same results.

458 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:11:53am

I've decided to retire early & spend it all afore Obamamama has a chance to redistribute any of it.

459 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:11:54am

re: #449 tfc3rid

Federal funding for Embryonic stem cell research...

The latest medical advancements make this subject moot.

460 Eowyn2  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:11:57am

Obama Buttons

Obama: Will vote Present for Change
Vote Obama, he's mulitcolored
Obama/Marx 08 (already a tshirt)


Feel free to add to the list

461 vagabond trader  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:11:58am

Call me reactionary or even a paranoiac, but I have been standing guard over my wallet since last night's travesty, and will continue to do so until the Obama is defeated in November.

462 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:12:06am

re: #441 unrealizedviewpoint

Somebody upthread said the Elimination of the Missile Defense Program.

463 Cap'n DOC  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:12:41am

re: #456 Iron Fist

Hmmm. He's a pyromaniac now, is he?

464 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:12:45am

re: #451 lawhawk

Hmmm. You think Obama might have trouble with the Palestinians now that he's on the record saying that he believes in an undivided Jerusalem as capital of Israel?

So,
unless Obama now has the power to create new land (on top of his
previously announced powers over ocean levels and the healing of the
planet), he's lying to someone.
.

Wasn't that what Lex Luthor was trying to do in the Superman movie?

465 infidelia  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:12:45am

re: #452 jcm

End the threat of guns in civilian hands
Expand entitlements.
Tax the carp out of the rich.

What, we're going to a fishing economy?

466 realwest  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:12:57am

re: #441 unrealizedviewpoint Uh, you're gonna be at that list for a long, long time! But he didn't say declaring victory in Iraq and then leaving, in fact all he said was victory in Iraq.
Just a minor quibble!

467 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:13:08am
468 jcm  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:13:21am

re: #462 tfc3rid

Somebody upthread said the Elimination of the Missile Defense Program.

It's "unproven" don't ya know. Never mind the successful tests.

469 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:13:21am

re: #455 Silhouette

Not so much anymore. They enacted a ban on smoking in bars,nightclubs, and restaurants 1/1/2008.

470 Cap'n DOC  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:13:24am

re: #465 infidelia

Nice catch - did you use C4 or a Net?

471 loflyer  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:13:34am

You go Big John! He is proposing 10 "city hall debates, without the MSM" I'll bet anyone a six-pack he declines! "reporters, no spin rooms," McCain said. "Just two Americans running for office in the greatest nation on earth, responding to the questions of the people whose trust we must earn.""

472 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:13:37am

re: #459 unrealizedviewpoint

The latest medical advancements make this subject moot.

but it is a Progressive meme... They LOVE wasting money on it...

473 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:13:39am

re: #465 infidelia

What, we're going to a fishing economy?

BIG CARP ARE RIPPING US OFF!

474 Eowyn2  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:13:39am

re: #344 landline

So many Liberals claim that "America is too racist to elect a black president." Liberals believe in America's racism more than they believe in social justice and global warming. If Senator Obama is elected president, how will progressives continue to claim that we are a civilization that oppresses people of color? What would be their new mantra?

Sharpton, Jackson, and Farakhan woud be out of a job. OR they could then devote all of their time to liberating the non-Christian, non-Jewish oppressed peoples of the US.

475 jpfletcher  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:13:49am
476 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:13:54am

re: #462 tfc3rid

Somebody upthread said the Elimination of the Missile Defense Program.

And the elemination of nuclear weapons from the U.S. arsenal.
Iran & North Korea can have as many as the want.

477 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:13:58am

re: #415 unrealizedviewpoint

Okay, here's what i got so far:

Universale healthcare...
Reversal of the Patriot Act
Reversal of the Bush Tax Cuts
End US Involvement in the War on Terror
Declaring Victory" in Iraq, then leaving
Reinstatement of the Fairness Doctrine
Massive Defense Budget reductions
Abandoning allies such as Israel
Windfall Profits Taxes imposed upon oil co's
Signing of Cap and Trade legislation

additional?

Accept the UN as a world government
As part of that:
The UN will control gun ownership.
Racism, Islamaphobia, and other "human rights issues" will be banned, subject to tribunals in the UN.
Being a Jew will be sufficient proof of racism and Islamophobia.

478 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:14:08am

re: #464 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Technically, he was trying to destroy California to create a new coastline on which he owned all the land.

479 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:14:11am

re: #441 unrealizedviewpoint

Universale healthcare...
Reversal of the Patriot Act
Reversal of the Bush Tax Cuts
End US Involvement in the War on Terror
Declaring Victory" in Iraq, then leaving
Reinstatement of the Fairness Doctrine
Massive Defense Budget reductions
Abandoning allies such as Israel
Windfall Profits Taxes imposed upon oil co's
Signing of Cap and Trade legislation
Liberal appointments to the Supreme Court

I'm looking for talking points any lizard can carry as a pocket card. Not obscure, unknowns.
More?

Negotiating with Iran!

480 WrathofG-d  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:14:13am

re: #451 lawhawk

Yes I noticed that part of the speech too, and I agree with you that he is just simply lying to AIPAC. Just like Kerry, Clinton, and Bush did.

I don't understand your statement about "making new land" though.

481 Cap'n DOC  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:14:18am

re: #473 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You got that right. A bunch of BottomFeeders.

482 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:14:30am

re: #451 lawhawk

Hmmm. You think Obama might have trouble with the Palestinians now that he's on the record saying that he believes in an undivided Jerusalem as capital of Israel?

So, unless Obama now has the power to create new land (on top of his previously announced powers over ocean levels and the healing of the planet), he's lying to someone.

The trick is to figure out who he's lying to.

Dollars to donuts, he's lying to AIPAC - because he needs their votes.

Well since ever President Since Truman has lied about that, that's a trick question right? But if I were the Israeli Prime Minister, I'd be warmed up the engines those F-16s just in case they have to be launched on Nov. 5th.

483 zmdavid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:14:43am

re: #459 unrealizedviewpoint

The latest medical advancements make this subject moot.

It's not about helping the sick, it's about sticking it to the pro-lifers.

484 Eowyn2  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:14:43am

re: #458 unreconstructed rebel

I've decided to retire early & spend it all afore Obamamama has a chance to redistribute any of it.

If you need help, please let me know. I can use new roofing, new electrical work.

485 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:14:52am

re: #449 tfc3rid

Federal funding for Embryonic stem cell research...

That's the FFESCR bill. While the 800 billion dollar cost is not trivial, the bill certainly is.

486 jcm  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:14:55am

re: #465 infidelia

What, we're going to a fishing economy?

LOL!
While back our Learless Feader had that new spelling, it's in the official LFG lexicon now.
;-)

487 alegrias  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:15:06am

re: #454 Oh no...Sand People!

Did I say America isn't worth fighting for? Put words in my mouth.

* * *
You said and I quote: "... We are also all for having something at home worth fighting for...."

I say America has plenty at home worth fighting for, even if it's not perfect!

488 'Nam Grunt  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:15:12am

When this supposedly tape comes out about Mrs. shining star, it's game over for Obama, his radical moonbats will spend the next 5 months trying to spin it, digging themselves deeper into a hole, he's loser!

489 Silhouette  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:15:13am

re: #469 lawhawk

Europe smokes more than the US though, n'est pas? It has always struck me as funny because most LLL worship Europe as what the US "should" be, but they overlook the nukes and smoking, two very un-PC no-nos.

490 yesandno  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:15:15am

re: #456 Iron Fist

Byrd sending a warning.


Did anyone point out that as Obama reached the pinnacle, Byrd was taken to the hospital?

Could there be a link between the two events? Inquiring minds want to know!

491 WrathofG-d  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:15:44am

In all this Obama love, why has noone mentioned his deep ties with the NOI?

492 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:15:48am

re: #478 lawhawk

Technically, he was trying to destroy California to create a new coastline on which he owned all the land.

I meant Superman Returns, I just didn't want to admit that I watched that crap-pile.

493 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:15:48am
494 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:16:26am

re: #465 infidelia

What, we're going to a fishing economy?


Three tiers of taxation: one carp, two carp, three carp.

"It's just that easy." - Barack Obama

495 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:16:42am

re: #478 lawhawk

Technically, he was trying to destroy California to create a new coastline on which he owned all the land.

"Superman Returns", he grew an island in the Atlantic

496 brogers  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:16:45am

Obama's plans to disarm America

I'm sure this has been posted before, but if you want to know why the "world" (particularly the Middle East) likes Obama, it's because an Obama Presidency equals a much weaker America. You can take a look at that 52 second video and see it from his own mouth.

A particular gem being his promise to "stop investing in unproven missile defense systems," which I assume is the same "unproven" system which sent an SM-3 up into space to knock out a satellite just a few months ago. What a waste that is, I mean who would want to prevent an ICBM with a nuclear or chemical warhead landing on our shores, certainly just some paranoid republicans.

As Reagan said: "Of the four wars in my lifetime, none came about because the U.S. was too strong."

497 christheprofessor  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:16:51am

re: #453 redstateredneck

They look like they're having a fine time!

They were... Swimming and "fighting" over the stick, both in and out of the water...

498 Silhouette  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:17:02am

Obama just promised an undivided Jerusalem, yes?

Didn't mention which of the two powers it is now divided among will gain total control, did he?

499 Eowyn2  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:17:12am

re: #415 unrealizedviewpoint

Okay, here's what i got so far:

Universale healthcare...
Reversal of the Patriot Act
Reversal of the Bush Tax Cuts
End US Involvement in the War on Terror
Declaring Victory" in Iraq, then leaving
Reinstatement of the Fairness Doctrine
Massive Defense Budget reductions
Abandoning allies such as Israel
Windfall Profits Taxes imposed upon oil co's
Signing of Cap and Trade legislation

additional?

Accept the UN as a world government
As part of that:
The UN will control gun ownership.
Racism, Islamaphobia, and other "human rights issues" will be banned, subject to tribunals in the UN.
Being a Jew will be sufficient proof of racism and Islamophobia.

plus

wage caps
wage floors
price caps
price floors
food consumption monitoring
carbon footprint monitoring

500 realwest  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:17:12am

Well, gotta go eat lunch do more chores, but thought I'd leave you all with this:

Charles Dickens' desk up for auction

LONDON, Jun 4, 2008 (UPI via COMTEX) -- A writing desk and chair that once belonged to British literary giant Charles Dickens is to be auctioned in London to benefit Great Ormond Street Hospital.

The BBC said the 19th century writer's furniture was donated by a relative and is estimated to be worth about $160,000.

Dickens is believed to have used the chair and desk when he penned some of his later works, such as "Great Expectations," at his home in Higham, Kent.

The sale of the items is to fund new building works and equipment for the children's hospital.

"Charles Dickens was a champion of the poor and needy and an enthusiastic patron of Great Ormond Street Hospital in its early days," Christopher Charles Dickens' widow, Jeanne-Marie, told the BBC. "I felt that it was Charles's wish and it is an honor for me to fulfill this wish."
[Link: enews.earthlink.net...]

501 coquimbojoe  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:17:17am

re: #410 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

.....Eternal Bosom of Hot Love......

Really? I just thought he was my Lodestar of Love, but who knew...

502 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:17:55am

re: #497 christheprofessor

They were... Swimming and "fighting" over the stick, both in and out of the water...

They all look like they're smiling.
:-)

503 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:18:03am

re: #466 realwest

Uh, you're gonna be at that list for a long, long time! But he didn't say declaring victory in Iraq and then leaving, in fact all he said was victory in Iraq.
Just a minor quibble!

I thought we were all being sarcastic. When did Obama say victory in Iraq?

504 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:18:16am

Everyone has a right to Barack's opinion.

505 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:18:20am

re: #495 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

"Superman Returns", he grew an island in the Atlantic

OK, never saw it (nor any Superman past Superman II).

/I sincerely hope I missed nothing then.

506 Silhouette  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:18:24am

re: #496 brogers

A particular gem being his promise to "stop investing in unproven missile defense systems,"

From now on, we'll only invent things that are already proven.

Wait, there's a flaw in my logic somewhere...

507 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:18:47am

re: #503 unrealizedviewpoint

I thought we were all being sarcastic. When did Obama say victory in Iraq?

I think I heard him say that. Though he didn't specify which side he wanted to win.

508 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:18:54am

re: #501 coquimbojoe

.....Eternal Bosom of Hot Love......

Really? I just thought he was my Lodestar of Love, but who knew...

I still prefer the name Space Cowboy, though some call me the Gangster of Love.

Some people call me Maurice.

509 Russkilitlover  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:19:10am

re: #342 buzzsawmonkey

There is another one that American should learn from. My Greek mythology is very rusty, but he was the dude who was punished with hunger and thirst. Bountiful food dangled above his head, but whenever he reached for it, it went out of reach. Pool of clear water at his feet but whenever he reached for a drink of it, it dried up. (Really nasty punishment).

Fall for BHO's utopia and we'll be that hungry/thirsty dude.

510 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:19:24am

re: #505 Honorary Yooper

OK, never saw it (nor any Superman past Superman II).

/I sincerely hope I missed nothing then.

You didn't

511 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:19:51am

Algernon has been busted!

He's the robber whose exploding packet of money dyed his shorts red yesterday.

After all of that, he was smiling as he was led off in handcuffs. After all, what's not to smile about?

512 Peacekeeper  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:19:53am

You forgot floor caps and global tax (not capped).

513 Silhouette  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:20:05am

re: #509 Russkilitlover

Before you eat or drink, you'd better check with other countries to see if it is okay.

514 zmdavid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:20:29am

In the spy, if someone rates a comment, the link to its thread disappears.

515 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:20:29am

re: #505 Honorary Yooper

OK, never saw it (nor any Superman past Superman II).

/I sincerely hope I missed nothing then.

Not much missed:

Superman III - Richard Pryor meets The Man of Steel. Need I say more?
Superman IV - Anti-nuke propaganda
Superman Returns - Superman returns as a metrosexual stalker dead-beat dad.

516 El Anti-Idiotario  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:20:50am

re: #480 WrathofG-d

I agree with you that he is just simply lying to AIPAC. Just like Kerry, Clinton, and Bush did.

Lying to AIPAC is a ritual already embedded in American politics...

/Member of AIPAC: Smiling and nodding

517 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:21:09am

re: #512 Peacekeeper

You forgot floor caps and global tax (not capped).

And the floor tax.

518 paradox42  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:21:52am

There: #509 Russkilitlover

You're thinking of Tantalus, who's crime was cooking his son and feeding him to the gods. As punishment, the gods:

dangled above his head, but whenever he reached for it, it went out of reach. Pool of clear water at his feet but whenever he reached for a drink of it, it dried up.
519 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:22:05am

Universale healthcare...
Reversal of the Patriot Act
Reversal of the Bush Tax Cuts
Raise Corporate Taxes
Raise Taxes on the top 20% of wag earners
Increase capital gains Taxes to 25%
Initiate Wage Caps and Wage Floors
Initiate Price Caps and Price Floors
End US Involvement in the War on Terror
Declare Defeat in Iraq & Cut-n-Run
Reinstatement of the Fairness Doctrine
Massive Defense Budget reductions
Elimination of the Missile Defense Program
Abandoning allies such as Israel
Windfall Profits Taxes imposed upon oil co's
Signing of Cap and Trade legislation
Entitlement expansion
Curtailment of our 2nd Amendment Rights
Comprehensive Immigration Reform
Accept a UN World Government

520 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:22:16am

re: #484 Eowyn2

It's not going to take very long to go thru it. After that I go on the dole & let Bananaman's rich lefty friends pick up the tab.

521 brogers  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:22:51am

re: #506 Silhouette

From now on, we'll only invent things that are already proven.

Wait, there's a flaw in my logic somewhere...

It's a genius idea, isn't it?

522 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:23:23am
523 WrathofG-d  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:23:32am

re: #516 El Anti-Idiotario

I have been to many AIPAC events, etc., and I am amused by the promises made by politicians, etc., there. What is even more amazing is that people still believe it.

524 Ojoe  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:23:57am

Piss

525 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:24:06am

#487 alegrias

* * *
You said and I quote: "... We are also all for having something at home worth fighting for...."

I say America has plenty at home worth fighting for, even if it's not perfect!

That phrase doesn't indicate that there is nothing worth fighting for RIGHT NOW.

If you think McCain is our only hope then good on ya. We are a resilient bunch, and will survive everything that Obama/McCain can throw at us and in 2012 we can start all over again or if by some chance Obama is capable of ushering in TEOFTWAWKI, there are pockets of people sufficiently prepared to do what is necessary to keep the 'Constitution' in tact.

526 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:24:07am
527 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:24:15am
528 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:24:43am

re: #519 unrealizedviewpoint

Sounds good to me, sign me up!

529 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:24:55am
530 zmdavid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:25:00am

re: #506 Silhouette

re: #521 brogers

How about "Stop investing in unproven alternative fuel technology?"

531 Salem  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:25:14am

The media knows nothing about Americans if they think most Americans care what the world thinks.

532 'Nam Grunt  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:25:14am

Obama taps Caroline Kennedy to vet VP candidates in order to keep that Camelot connection, he is living in a bizarro world for sure, if he went to a soiree' at the Kennedy compaound he would be a waiter!

533 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:25:24am
534 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:25:41am
535 Intrepid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:25:53am

re: #415 unrealizedviewpoint

Okay, here's what i got so far:

Universale healthcare...
Reversal of the Patriot Act
Reversal of the Bush Tax Cuts
End US Involvement in the War on Terror
Declaring Victory" in Iraq, then leaving
Reinstatement of the Fairness Doctrine
Massive Defense Budget reductions
Abandoning allies such as Israel
Windfall Profits Taxes imposed upon oil co's
Signing of Cap and Trade legislation

additional?

College education for all as a "birth-right"

536 Eowyn2  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:25:55am

re: #496 brogers

Obama's plans to disarm America

I'm sure this has been posted before, but if you want to know why the "world" (particularly the Middle East) likes Obama, it's because an Obama Presidency equals a much weaker America. You can take a look at that 52 second video and see it from his own mouth.

A particular gem being his promise to "stop investing in unproven missile defense systems," which I assume is the same "unproven" system which sent an SM-3 up into space to knock out a satellite just a few months ago. What a waste that is, I mean who would want to prevent an ICBM with a nuclear or chemical warhead landing on our shores, certainly just some paranoid republicans.

As Reagan said: "Of the four wars in my lifetime, none came about because the U.S. was too strong."

Of course, the US Army should not have invested in Winchester repeater rifles during that old war between the states either. They were unproven as well.

Other ideas that were unproven until proven:
the world is round
man can go to the moon

537 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:25:59am

re: #529 taxfreekiller

tfc3

What's up, TFK?

538 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:26:17am

re: #530 zmdavid

re: #521 brogers

How about "Stop investing in unproven alternative fuel technology?"

Or "Stop panicking over unproven global warming hysteria?"

539 Silhouette  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:26:18am

Do you think that the next President of the United States should establish in-person meetings with the leadership of Iran?

Democrats
Yes – 65%
No – 9%
Not Sure – 25%

Republicans
Yes – 25%
No -37%
Not Sure – 37%

Independents
Yes – 42%
No – 24%
Not Sure – 34%

540 'Nam Grunt  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:26:38am

Hey TFK, how's it going Brother. ;-)

541 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:26:50am
542 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:26:53am

re: #535 Intrepid

College education for all as a "birth-right"

Though none will have a right to be born.

543 Ojoe  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:27:00am

X

544 christheprofessor  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:27:06am

re: #502 redstateredneck

They all look like they're smiling.
:-)

They are -- it's the stick in their mouths...

545 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:27:24am

re: #539 Silhouette

Who the hell are the Republicans voting there? Are you kidding me?

Of that's the case, we're in deeper trouble than I thought...

546 Eowyn2  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:27:30am

re: #506 Silhouetteyou beat me to it

547 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:27:34am
548 unreconstructed rebel  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:27:43am

Break's over. Gotta go.

549 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:27:43am

re: #542 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Though none will have a right to be born.

Funny how this works...

550 Ojoe  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:27:48am

re: #542 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
That's a thousand up-ding post

551 El Anti-Idiotario  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:27:51am

re: #523 WrathofG-d

I have been to many AIPAC events, etc., and I am amused by the promises made by politicians, etc., there. What is even more amazing is that people still believe it.

I couldn't agree more with you.

552 'Nam Grunt  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:27:55am

re: #541 taxfreekiller

The only way to get out of the ambush kill zone is with superior firepower! LOLOL

553 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:28:04am
554 Russkilitlover  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:28:08am

re: #518 paradox42

The

You're thinking of Tantalus, who's crime was cooking his son and feeding him to the gods. As punishment, the gods:

Tantalus - That's the one! How could I forget? Thanks. That would have had me rummaging through my library tonight!

555 Ojoe  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:28:20am

Frrriiiiip

556 paxnhymn  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:28:20am

I go to lunch and get this hilarious update:

When he arrived in Washington, Senate dean Robert Byrd cautioned him not to be in too much of a rush to leave for the White House.

right. Next thing they'll be pitchin' is that he and Byrd spent time at dinner together, and that Byrd had him over to his home. None of this is likely unless hussein was asked to hold a serving tray from the man who is arguably the biggest racist in recnt politics!

This is such bullshit!

557 Eowyn2  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:28:39am

re: #535 Intrepid

College education for all as a "birth-right"

right after we get them to finish high school instead of dropping out.

558 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:29:29am
559 tokyobk  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:29:56am

I have been railing on about a few things here for weeks and I have decided that I am going to keep on doing so until November because there is the possibility that this wonderment over how Obama is treated by the MSM will contribute to McCain`s defeat which is bad for America.

Politics is image. Obama is a master of image. He will now, as I have been saying, become white and move right. It is not that that is so suprising, all candidates do this in general elections, but there are many here who do not recognize how flexible Obama, thinking he is locked into a marxian, secret Islamic agenda, and a true believer in both. He is a true believer in Obama being president.

White and to the right.

To all those pundits who have wrung their hands over Barack Obama's potential general election weaknesses, take heart -- the Senator has heard you.

After moving past the magic number of 2,118 Democratic delegates this evening and addressing the nation's most powerful pro-Israel lobbying organization on Wednesday morning, Obama will head to Virginia on Thursday -- right smack in the heart of Appalachia, where he is often thought to be toast because of his outsized losses to Senator Clinton in some of the region's primaries.

While not all of Virginia is properly inside Appalachia, the cities Obama will visit -- including Bristol, Abingdon and Castlewood -- are all nestled within western Virginia, close to the Tennessee border.

Providing those voters with some face time will perhaps go some way toward satisfying commentators who wonder whether Obama can "connect" with the region, but for what it's worth, it isn't as though Obama is headed to Virginia to staunch any bleeding. The Pollster.com best-fit line of polls over time has shown Obama steadily closing on Sen. John McCain in the state.

560 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:30:02am

re: #535 Intrepid

College education for all as a "birth-right"

MOST Americans actually want this I believe, so I'll leave off list.

561 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:30:11am
562 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:30:15am
563 harley2002  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:30:21am

strings lots of sentences together into paragraphs,

Yeak like Ahhhhhh, Ummmmm, Ahhhhhhh, Ummmm. Let the ass kissing begin. Exscuse me as i wipe the puke off my keyboard...

564 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:30:29am

re: #557 Eowyn2

right after we get them to finish high school instead of dropping out.

With the upcoming Potus' just for surviving the 9 month gestation period would be degree worthy.

565 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:30:38am
566 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:30:42am

re: #557 Eowyn2

right after we get them to finish high school instead of dropping out.

They have an easy solution. Lower the standards

567 nyc redneck  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:30:48am

now the moron thinks he's going to be king of the world.
(farther to fall when his little ridiculous scenario collapses.)

568 Ojoe  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:31:12am
569 Eowyn2  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:31:15am

re: #556 paxnhymn

I go to lunch and get this hilarious update:

When he arrived in Washington, Senate dean Robert Byrd cautioned him not to be in too much of a rush to leave for the White House.

right. Next thing they'll be pitchin' is that he and Byrd spent time at dinner together, and that Byrd had him over to his home. None of this is likely unless hussein was asked to hold a serving tray from the man who is arguably the biggest racist in recnt politics!

This is such bullshit!

Its Guess Who's Coming To Dinner
the 2nd.

570 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:31:20am

re: #559 tokyobk

White and to the right.

So you're telling us he's going to throw himself under the bus?

571 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:31:43am

re: #532 'Nam Grunt

Obama taps Caroline Kennedy to vet VP candidates in order to keep that Camelot connection, he is living in a bizarro world for sure, if he went to a soiree' at the Kennedy compaound he would be a waiter!

Nothing suprises me anymore. Michelle babysat Jesse Jackson's children as a teen.

See how suprised I am?

572 tokyobk  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:31:49am

re: #570 Sharmuta

So you're telling us he's going to throw himself under the bus?

Yes.

573 christheprofessor  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:32:22am

Gotta run -- you all have a great one...

574 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:32:44am

Print this and attach to wall

Obama's Plan for America

Universal Healthcare
Reversal of the Patriot Act
Reversal of the Bush Tax Cuts
Raise Corporate Taxes
Raise Taxes on the top 20% of wage earners
Increase Capital gGains Taxes to 25%
Initiate Wage Caps and Wage Floors
Initiate Price Caps and Price Floors
End US Involvement in the War on Terror
Declare defeat in Iraq / Cut-n-Run
Reinstatement of the Fairness Doctrine
Massive Defense Budget Reductions
Elimination of the Missile Defense Program
Abandoning Americas allies such as Israel
Windfall Profits Taxes imposed upon oil Co's
Signing of Cap and Trade Legislation
Mass Entitlement Expansion
Curtailment of our 2nd Amendment Rights
Comprehensive Immigration Reform
________________________________
________________________________
________________________________
________________________________
________________________________
________________________________

575 paxnhymn  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:33:05am

re: #569 Eowyn2

Its Guess Who's Coming To Dinner
the 2nd.

LOL.

Meet the Hooded Fokkers.

576 Vergeltung  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:33:08am

I'm scared. somebody hold me.

577 Eowyn2  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:33:42am

re: #562 buzzsawmonkey

If we work at it, we can get kids reading at an eighth-grade level by the time they finish an advanced degree.

when they will be ready for a satisfying career in the food service industry.

578 Mosse  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:33:48am

Later in the article, Axelrod says: ""We did a lot of iconic rallies" and Plouffe says the Obama campaign was often on "this incredible rocket ride." All these choices of language aren't accidents. They're consistent with Obama's stilling the oceans and healing the planet lingo from last night. There really is a LOT of subliminal suggestion here and we need to be attentive to it and to the motives of Obama, his handlers, and cooperative press people who continually invoke it. What IS with the mysto pitch? Why is it always present? This little cat is NObody -- a self-promoting politician with a LOT of baggage. For months, people have already nailed the Second Coming inference with this character. So, why continue to try to sell it?

Anyway. We can get our "No, we can't" buttons online. We'd probably be assaulted by the latte types if we tried to wear them, though.

579 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:33:52am

re: #525 Oh no...Sand People!

#487 alegrias


That phrase doesn't indicate that there is nothing worth fighting for RIGHT NOW.

If you think McCain is our only hope then good on ya. We are a resilient bunch, and will survive everything that Obama/McCain can throw at us and in 2012 we can start all over again or if by some chance Obama is capable of ushering in TEOFTWAWKI, there are pockets of people sufficiently prepared to do what is necessary to keep the 'Constitution' in tact.

I'm concerned about what Amaninejad will throw at us. And at Israel.
He doesn't care if Iran is nuked in retaliation, and could pre-position terrorist nukes in the US to get his revenge.

580 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:33:52am
581 jordash1212  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:34:08am

So what if the "world loves Obama?" That doesn't mean he'll win the election.

582 Silhouette  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:35:23am

I know two people who took that quiz. One Repub, one Indep.

They both said when asked if we should meet with Iran, they were looking for a button that said, "HELL no. Are you crazy? We've tried dealing with fanatical madmen for years. We've tried dealing with Iran, even. It never works. F*%*ing Albright apologized to them for how evil we were forcing them to attack our embassy. Did that make things better?"

Granted, it would be quite a lot to put on one button.

583 paxnhymn  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:35:27am

re: #576 Vergeltung

I'm scared. somebody hold me.

not unless you're at 38DD

yes. I am that shallow....
:-D

584 'Nam Grunt  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:35:49am

We'd probably be assaulted by the latte types if we tried.

I wish a latte type would try to assault me, PLEASE oh Lord Obama make it happen. LOLOL

585 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:35:50am
586 VegasRick  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:36:11am

I still want my flying car that I was promised.

587 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:36:19am

re: #577 Eowyn2

when they will be ready for a satisfying career in the food service industry.

And then what will happen to all the illegal immigrants who will be comprehesively reformed under President Obama (or McCain)?

588 JohnnyReb  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:36:26am

If Obama wins, we will see every stupid idea the Dems have ever come up with being introduced in Congress, every single one of them. They know that he would never ever veto any thing. He will calmly sign every thing that comes across his desk.

The Dems will have a free ride for two years. Two years in which to wreck the economy that will take decades to recover from, if ever.

589 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:36:48am

re: #579 Kosh's Shadow

I'm concerned about what Amaninejad will throw at us. And at Israel.
He doesn't care if Iran is nuked in retaliation, and could pre-position terrorist nukes in the US to get his revenge.

I completely agree....

590 nyc redneck  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:37:01am

re: #586 VegasRick

I still want my flying car that I was promised.

you may have to settle for a flying carpet.

591 alegrias  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:37:21am

Well, ONE Spanish commenter disagrees with the Whole World's Gone Obama.

Says the Spaniard: "Obama is a carbon copy of Zapatero [spain's leftist president & chief appeaser], with the same dumb idea of dialoguing with enemies, full of demagoguery, not factual arguments.

Obama's campaign is all hot air, no content, he's a new Carter.

And we all know how fed up Americans got with Mr. Peanut..."

At least one spaniard sees through the media BS, at [Link: www.larazon.es...]

592 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:38:54am

re: #576 Vergeltung

I'm scared. somebody hold me.

no thanks.....

/cooties

593 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:38:59am
594 SecondComing  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:39:18am

re: #19 Honorary Yooper

Yep, the whole world, the AP, and Matt Drudge all love Obama.

Yep Matt Drudge has a huge Obama man crush.

595 infidelia  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:39:40am

re: #591 alegrias

Well, ONE Spanish commenter disagrees with the Whole World's Gone Obama.

Says the Spaniard: "Obama is a carbon copy of Zapatero [spain's leftist president & chief appeaser], with the same dumb idea of dialoguing with enemies, full of demagoguery, not factual arguments.

Obama's campaign is all hot air, no content, he's a new Carter.

And we all know how fed up Americans got with Mr. Peanut..."

At least one spaniard sees through the media BS, at [Link: www.larazon.es...]

Is Zapatero the fool they elected in a panic after the Madrid train bombings?

596 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:39:52am

re: #595 infidelia

Is Zapatero the fool they elected in a panic after the Madrid train bombings?

Yes.

597 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:39:54am

re: #588 JohnnyReb

If Obama wins, we will see every stupid idea the Dems have ever come up with being introduced in Congress, every single one of them. They know that he would never ever veto any thing. He will calmly sign every thing that comes across his desk.

The Dems will have a free ride for two years. Two years in which to wreck the economy that will take decades to recover from, if ever.

Your banking on Americans waking up for the 2010 election and voting out the Dem congress. There would have to be a 25% turnover. It's not gonna happen in one election I'm afraid.

598 JohnnyReb  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:40:06am

re: #593 buzzsawmonkey

"You keep saying "hope" and "change." I do not think they mean what you think they mean."
--Inigo Montoya


My names is Carlos Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die!

599 alegrias  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:40:11am

re: #531 Salem

The media knows nothing about Americans if they think most Americans care what the world thinks.

* * *
You're wrong. At least a couple generations of Americans have been conditioned to want to be loved by every last Fidel, Chavez & Che fan.

Kerry's party wants America to pass a "global" test.
Democrats say "World Can't Wait" for Mr. Bush's term to end.

Don't say Americans don't care what the world thinks, or we would have tossed the UN out a long time ago.

600 Sharmuta  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:40:17am

re: #593 buzzsawmonkey

"You keep saying "hope" and "change." I do not think they mean what you think they mean."
--Inigo Montoya

Here- use this.

601 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:40:19am

re: #586 VegasRick

I still want my flying car that I was promised.

Now, now, if Obama gave you a flying car, you'd just fly too close to the sun, and crash. So be happy with your People's Earth-Friendly Mass Transit instead.

602 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:40:49am

re: #584 'Nam Grunt

We'd probably be assaulted by the latte types if we tried.

I wish a latte type would try to assault me, PLEASE oh Lord Obama make it happen. LOLOL

Harmony Church rules in effect!

603 Pyrocles  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:41:00am

The "man can go to the moon" reference made me realize that I could see Obama seriously cutting NASA's budget, too. Just like those annoying bumper stickers that say, "Wouldn't it be nice if public schools received billions in government funding while NASA had to have bake sales?"

No more Mars probes.

I could see Leftists believing that human endeavors like space exploration need to be hindered, while human limitations need to be put in place to "ensure equality" and limit "environmental impact".

re: #536 Eowyn2

Of course, the US Army should not have invested in Winchester repeater rifles during that old war between the states either. They were unproven as well.

Other ideas that were unproven until proven:
the world is round
man can go to the moon

604 snowcrash  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:41:02am

When the comment rating shows up in the spy comments, the article title disappears. Using IE7

605 mama winger  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:41:07am

re: #574 unrealizedviewpoint

There is a problem with your first point. Healthcare will not be Universal.

606 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:41:08am

re: #588 JohnnyReb

If Obama McCain wins, we will see every stupid idea the Dems have ever come up with being introduced in Congress, every single one of them. They know that he would never rarely ever veto any thing. He will calmly sign most every thing that comes across his desk.

The Dems will have a free ride for two years. Two years in which to wreck the economy that will take decades to recover from, if ever.

Make ya feel better?

/I guess a few bills being vetoed is better than NO bills being vetoed.

607 infidelia  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:41:21am

re: #596 tfc3rid

Yes.

Wonder how that would go down here.

608 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:41:52am

re: #597 unrealizedviewpoint

And it's much harder to turnover the Senate in my opinion... Lot os lifers in there...

609 coquimbojoe  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:42:12am

re: #508 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I still prefer the name Space Cowboy, though some call me the Gangster of Love.

Some people call me Maurice.

Are you a midnight toker?

610 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:42:32am

re: #603 Pyrocles

"Wouldn't it be nice if public schools received billions in government funding while NASA had to have bake sales?"

I've always seen that with "... while the Air Force has to hold a bake sale to buy a bomber."

611 jcm  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:42:47am

re: #594 SecondComing

Yep Matt Drudge has a huge Obama man crush.

I have crush on ☭bama too.....
I hope he is crushed in Nov.

612 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:43:13am

re: #607 infidelia

Wonder how that would go down here.

What, an attack right before the election?

Hope we never find out...

613 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:43:22am

re: #609 coquimbojoe

Are you a midnight toker?

Obama, by his own admission, was a tokin' minority.

614 JohnnyReb  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:43:41am

re: #606 Oh no...Sand People!

Better some vetos than none I think.

615 loflyer  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:43:51am

re: #608 tfc3rid

And it's much harder to turnover the Senate in my opinion... Lot os lifers in there...

Zell Miller left after only one term, couldn't stand the stench around the hog trough!

616 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:43:58am
617 debutaunt  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:44:18am

re: #24 David Simon

Are you fucking kidding me?

He strings a lot of sentences together with uhs.

618 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:44:25am

re: #594 SecondComing

Yep Matt Drudge has a huge Obama man crush.

Could somebody PLEASE explain that one to me... wasn't Drudge supposed to be conservative?! What the hell happened?

619 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:44:32am

re: #614 JohnnyReb

Better some vetos than none I think.

The "gluehorse"has my vote. But I don't like it.

620 'Nam Grunt  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:44:38am

Everyone needs to calm down and vote Republican, this POS is NOT going to be President of the USA, he's a left wing moonbat y'all and they don't get out of bed early enough to vote!

621 Intrepid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:44:41am

re: #566 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

They have an easy solution. Lower the standards

Which is indeed what will happen if Obama is POTUS. The implications of saying that everyone who is born in the US has a "RIGHT" to go to college means that admissions requirements will have to be lowered in order to let in the ones who are only eligible through the claiming of that right.

And that will mean secondary and primary education grade advancement standards will be lowered.

Sort of like "Affirmative Action For ALL!"

And down the line we'll fall behind in the tech, bio-med research, and all other fields that require advanced scientific know-how.

Barack Obama would turn this land of the free and home of the brave into a third world back-water.

622 mama winger  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:44:42am

re: #616 buzzsawmonkey

Obama's voting record shows that he would deny healthcare to any newborn whose parents did not want a live child.

623 Vergeltung  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:44:53am

re: #583 paxnhymn

not unless you're at 38DD
yes. I am that shallow....
:-D

how about is I was like this:

[Link: www.thesun.co.uk...]

that do? ;)

624 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:45:08am

re: #618 Occasional Reader

Could somebody PLEASE explain that one to me... wasn't Drudge supposed to be conservative?! What the hell happened?

"The money is always right!" -- Eugene Krabs

625 paxnhymn  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:45:26am

re: #597 unrealizedviewpoint

Your banking on Americans waking up for the 2010 election and voting out the Dem congress. There would have to be a 25% turnover. It's not gonna happen in one election I'm afraid.

well, I think that's about what happened in 94 but you're right, it's a longshot.

626 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:45:26am

re: #605 mama winger

There is a problem with your first point. Healthcare will not be Universal.

True. Needed is a more descriptive title.

627 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:45:51am

re: #605 mama winger

There is a problem with your first point. Healthcare will not be Universal.

yes it will....... it will be universally poor, at least for us of the narod.

628 mama winger  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:46:07am

re: #626 unrealizedviewpoint

see my 622

629 Intrepid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:46:10am

re: #583 paxnhymn

not unless you're at 38DD

yes. I am that shallow....
:-D

At least you're honest. And you're not into super-model size 0 with a 24-A up top.

630 Pyrocles  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:46:20am

Yeah, I've seen that one too. Our local elementary school has a plaque that uses "NASA" in place of the bomber...

re: #610 Occasional Reader

I've always seen that with "... while the Air Force has to hold a bake sale to buy a bomber."

631 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:46:23am
632 mama winger  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:46:32am

Healthcare will only be for those deemed worthy.

633 mama winger  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:46:46am

re: #631 buzzsawmonkey

I'd forgotten that one. Actually, didn't he want to not only deny healthcare, but fund infanticide?

Yes sir.

634 jcm  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:47:23am

re: #632 mama winger

Healthcare will only be for those deemed worthy.

CTWP* not covered.

*Clingy Typical White People

635 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:47:37am

re: #610 Occasional Reader

I've always seen that with "... while the Air Force has to hold a bake sale to buy a bomber."

"It will be a great day when our schools do something with the billions of dollars they get every year and our people in the military live as well as those on welfare."

/wordy but accurate

636 Silhouette  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:47:39am

re: #632 mama winger

Healthcare will only be for those deemed worthy.

And only those diseases deemed worthy.

And only the cures deemed worthy.

And only the doctors deemed worthy.

637 mama winger  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:47:53am

re: #634 jcm

CTWP* not covered.

*Clingy Typical White People

So slippery is this slope.

638 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:47:54am
639 alegrias  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:48:01am

re: #595 infidelia

Is Zapatero the fool they elected in a panic after the Madrid train bombings?

* * *
Yes, Zapatero's the fool socialist Spaniards elected TWICE!

He declared Spain's victory in Iraq and brought the troops home, like Obama promises.

Zapatero campaigned against Spain's participation in Iraq.

Zapatero, (similarly to Obama), disliked America so much, he refused to stand when the American flag paraded by during Spain's National Day in 2002. The Spanish Government & Spain's King stood up while Zapatero stayed glued to his chair.

Obama is very like Zapatero, mr. Change/Cambio

640 nyc redneck  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:48:09am

re: #617 debutaunt

He strings a lot of sentences together with uhs.

ah, but those are brilliant 'uhs'

641 mama winger  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:48:29am

re: #636 Silhouette

And only those diseases deemed worthy.

And only the cures deemed worthy.

And only the doctors deemed worthy.

Exactly. And who will be making those decisions? The DNC? Congress?

642 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:48:32am
643 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:48:41am

re: #630 Pyrocles

Yeah, I've seen that one too. Our local elementary school has a plaque that uses "NASA" in place of the bomber...

Your local elementary school actually has a plaque on the wall, advocating the complete federal takeover of education?! (Not to mention the abolition of US space exploration!)

644 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:48:55am
645 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:48:56am

re: #633 mama winger

Yes sir.

I have a feeling he will get 'murder' termed into something like a '53rd trimester abortion'.

Post birth abortion.

646 infidelia  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:48:57am

re: #631 buzzsawmonkey

I'd forgotten that one. Actually, didn't he want to not only deny healthcare, but fund infanticide?


Don't fret, Obama's people will take care of any uppity women who think they own their bodies.

647 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:49:13am

re: #628 mama winger

see my 622

I've added it to the list as partial Birth Abotion funding. Got a better description?

648 mama winger  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:49:21am

re: #642 taxfreekiller

yo, mama

Yo tfk back

649 Eowyn2  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:49:30am

re: #564 Oh no...Sand People!

With the upcoming Potus' just for surviving the 9 month gestation period would be degree worthy.

wouldnt want anyone to feel overwhelmed or punished for making bad choices.

650 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:49:30am
651 lawhawk  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:49:38am

re: #495 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Ah yes, now I remember that particular movie. He threw a part of Krypton into the ocean and built a new continent, which Superman promptly tossed into space.

652 AZDave  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:49:43am

re: #15 tfc3rid

Well of course they love him... He'll restore America's image in the eyes of the world... Don't you know that is THE single most important thing...

He'll make America a third class nation just like them.

653 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:49:44am
654 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:49:50am

The 'rich' (making over $50K) will be exluded as well...

They can buy their own damn haelthcare...

655 paxnhymn  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:49:53am

re: #620 'Nam Grunt

Everyone needs to calm down and vote Republican, this POS is NOT going to be President of the USA, he's a left wing moonbat y'all and they don't get out of bed early enough to vote!


LOL! Nam , I love yer sense a humour brother, but I figure some states will have drive thru polls by election time to facilitate the Manchurian candidate...

who wants to lay odds Soros is the first one to sleep in The Lincoln bedroom?

656 JohnnyReb  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:49:57am

re: #641 mama winger

Exactly. And who will be making those decisions? The DNC? Congress?


Oh the new cabinet that will be created. The Department of Comprehensive Health Care (DCHC) Nice ring to it ins't there?

657 jcm  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:50:02am

☭bama....

Life -- only if you're wanted and not a burden
Liberty -- Limited to the correct.
Property -- If you have it, you stole it.

658 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:50:17am

re: #645 Oh no...Sand People!

I have a feeling he will get 'murder' termed into something like a '53rd trimester abortion'.


That's what Cartman's Mom campaigned for in one South Park.

659 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:50:26am

re: #618 Occasional Reader

Could somebody PLEASE explain that one to me... wasn't Drudge supposed to be conservative?! What the hell happened?

Probably closer to libertarian than conservative. He's got the Obama tingle now, that's for damn sure.

660 mama winger  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:50:28am

re: #647 unrealizedviewpoint

I've added it to the list as partial Birth Abotion funding. Got a better description?

It's not even that. It's the deliberate choice to deny medical treatment, AGAINST THE WISHES OF THE DOCTORS AND NURSES, to children already born.

661 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:50:33am
662 alegrias  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:50:40am

re: #620 'Nam Grunt

Everyone needs to calm down and vote Republican, this POS is NOT going to be President of the USA, he's a left wing moonbat y'all and they don't get out of bed early enough to vote!

* * *
'Nam, they can vote by mail several times.

Remember what they do to military votes...mess them up.

663 Vergeltung  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:51:02am

re: #643 Occasional Reader

Your local elementary school actually has a plaque on the wall, advocating the complete federal takeover of education?! (Not to mention the abolition of US space exploration!)

thank goodness for parochial schools. :)

664 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:51:08am

re: #632 mama winger

Healthcare will only be for those deemed worthy.

Exactly. Healthcare will be supplied for all, assuming you meet the government guidelines. A little overweight? Sorry, cant cover you. Smoker? Thats a no no.

Actually, its in the governments best interest to keep you sick. Healthy people will cost them more in the long run since they would live longer.

665 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:51:08am

re: #655 paxnhymn

Like the BS, 'early voting'...

Elections should be held on election day and ONLY on election day... Especially for the Presidency.

666 mama winger  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:51:08am

re: #661 taxfreekiller

boo, your a troll

ME?

:)

667 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:51:12am
668 'Nam Grunt  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:51:20am

Love ya' back pax. ;-)

669 debutaunt  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:51:37am

re: #52 BGOH

You know, something just occurred to me:

If the whole world has fallen in love with Obama so, why doesn't the rest of the world band together and give him Ban Ki Moon's job. It'd take him off of our hands. Just a thought...

The O'Moonies?

670 AZDave  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:51:39am

re: #25 CIA Reject

Hopefully many Americans will find his mixture of Al Sharpton and Karl Marx very UNattractive...

Let's hope so!

671 Eowyn2  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:51:41am

re: #581 jordash1212

So what if the "world loves Obama?" That doesn't mean he'll win the election.

I'm pretty sure world loved Kerry too.

Yeah, I know, they loved B Clinton too

672 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:52:00am

re: #659 redstateredneck

Probably closer to libertarian than conservative. He's got the Obama tingle now, that's for damn sure.

Okay, explain THAT one to me, then... how does any libertarian support Mr. Universal Socialized Everything who's going to "force you out of your comfort zone", etc.?!

673 mama winger  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:52:02am

re: #656 JohnnyReb

Oh the new cabinet that will be created. The Department of Comprehensive Health Care (DCHC) Nice ring to it ins't there?

ackkkk

674 paxnhymn  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:52:06am

re: #623 Vergeltung

how about is I was like this:

[Link: www.thesun.co.uk...]

that do? ;)


damn. That looks like a freakin' carnival ride....

675 nyc redneck  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:52:28am

i forced my lunch down. and it will stay down, but damn it's upsetting how stupid people are and how their stupidity can infringe on and damage our lives.
let the rest of the world have that moron. he is a bad choice.

676 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:52:31am

re: #651 lawhawk

Ah yes, now I remember that particular movie. He threw a part of Krypton into the ocean and built a new continent, which Superman promptly tossed into space.

Despite it being laced with Kryptonite, which would supposedly render him powerless.

Riiiiiiight.

I was never a Superman fan.

677 eaglewingz08  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:52:50am

So the AP was able to find a third grade classmate of Obama's but didn't ask her whether he was muslim at the time? Or maybe they did, but didn't ask the question, "How does it feel that an arab american who grew up muslim in Indonesia is now on the verge of attaining the US Presidency?"

That question would have received a very interesting response had it been asked by an objective reporter instead of an sychophantic shill for the DNC posing as an AP (Antiamerican Propagandist) tool.

678 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:53:04am

re: #632 mama winger

Healthcare will only be for those deemed worthy.

re: #636 Silhouette

And only those diseases deemed worthy.

And only the cures deemed worthy.

And only the doctors deemed worthy.

Yes, indeed. Anybody with an unhealth lifestyle or habit, or anyone who is overweight, better shape up pronto, or we will find ourselves --- not worthy.

679 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:53:31am

re: #618 Occasional Reader

Could somebody PLEASE explain that one to me... wasn't Drudge supposed to be conservative?! What the hell happened?

I think he was more anti-Clinton than conservative, but it's hard to tell. One thing I have noticed is that there are conservatives out there who have been swooning over Obama when they really should be supporting McCain.

For why, I have no fricking idea.

680 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:53:43am

re: #672 Occasional Reader

Okay, explain THAT one to me, then... how does any libertarian support Mr. Universal Socialized Everything who's going to "force you out of your comfort zone", etc.?!

Maybe he's more anti-McCain than pro-Obama. Hell, I don't know!

681 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:53:43am

re: #672 Occasional Reader

Okay, explain THAT one to me, then... how does any libertarian support Mr. Universal Socialized Everything who's going to "force you out of your comfort zone", etc.?!

The only guess I can make is that Drudge hates the Clintons more than we understand. He is doing everything he can to get them out of the political scene. Then he will slowly creep his way back towards conservatism all the while raking in TONS of loot...I 'hope'.

682 Vergeltung  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:53:50am

re: #674 paxnhymn

damn. That looks like a freakin' carnival ride....

right? wOOt! :)

683 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:54:08am

re: #664 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Exactly. Healthcare will be supplied for all, assuming you meet the government guidelines. A little overweight? Sorry, cant cover you. Smoker? Thats a no no.

Actually, its in the governments best interest to keep you sick. Healthy people will cost them more in the long run since they would live longer.

Unless, of course, you're Obama, then you can chain smoke in private all you want.

684 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:54:18am

re: #660 mama winger

I know. It's a disgustingly sad reprehensible practice Barry supports. But it needs a one line (>40) character description.

685 Eowyn2  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:54:18am

re: #645 Oh no...Sand People!

I have a feeling he will get 'murder' termed into something like a '53rd trimester abortion'.

Post birth abortion.

Kind of like making people watch as a botched abortion slowly starves to death rather than feeding the child and giving her/him a place to live.

Gives new meaning to
One person's trash is another's treasure.

686 Just Another Four-letter Word  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:54:23am

re: #605 mama winger

There is a problem with your first point. Healthcare will not be Universal.

Yes it will! Universally bad.

JAFLW

687 mama winger  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:54:29am

re: #678 reine.de.tout

Yes, indeed. Anybody with an unhealth lifestyle or habit, or anyone who is overweight, better shape up pronto, or we will find ourselves --- not worthy.

Healthcare will be rationed . From each according to their weakness, to each according to their worthiness.

688 infidelia  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:54:30am

Just remember folks, FGM, burkas, forced arranged marriages, and honor killings have an excellent record of enforcing fertility. Plus it all has the advantage of keeping them uppity women in their place. I'm sure Obama's assorted Islamic friends would agree. The male ones, anyway.

Gotta go take my hyper-sarcasm pill before things get out of hand again.

689 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:54:31am
690 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:54:34am

re: #674 paxnhymn

damn. That looks like a freakin' carnival ride....

My god. How freakishly grotesque. How could anyone voluntarily have that done the herself?

691 Roger  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:55:01am

Limbaugh is sounding like the possibility of an Obama win is well, possible.

Hitting McCain on his anti-oil statements. And for thinking independence and reaching across and gaining leftists votes will get him elected. Limbaugh was actually laughing at McCain's sweet and pleasant campaign style plans.

692 mama winger  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:55:01am

re: #684 unrealizedviewpoint

I know. It's a disgustingly sad reprehensible practice Barry supports. But it needs a one line (>40) character description.

Conspiracy to commit infanticide.

693 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:55:11am

re: #686 Just Another Four-letter Word

Yes it will! Universally bad.

JAFLW

Glad I went to the dentist today.

694 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:55:18am

re: #683 Honorary Yooper

Unless, of course, you're Obama, then you can chain smoke in private all you want.


Membership (in The Politburo) has its rewards

695 AZDave  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:55:20am

re: #34 Ringo the Gringo

If Obama doesn't win in November we Americans will have let down the world...and will have proved ourselves to be heartless, greedy, racist morons.

Vote Obama and the world will love us!

No thanks. I'd rather be a heartless, greedy, racist moron.

696 mama winger  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:55:22am

re: #689 taxfreekiller

the spy thing, mama,

not you

watch

Oh - gotcha!

697 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:55:24am
698 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:55:45am

re: #676 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

most boring superhero ...ever

699 CEQAttorney  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:55:58am

Off topic (kinda)

Apparently, Mr. Obama is still not correct about his family's World War II experience.

Let's recap his stories.

1. His grandfather, Stanley Dunham, signed up the day after Pearl Harbor - Actually, Mr. Dunham enlisted on June 18, 1942, a full six months later.

2. His grandfather heard from other soldiers who first entered Auschwitz and Treblinka - Well, unless those "fellow soldiers" were in the Red Army, he couldn't have heard stories from them. The Red Army freed Auschwitz and Treblinka.

3. His uncle helped free Auschwitz. Later this was changed to his great-uncle, Charles W. Payne, and the camp was a satellite of Buchenwald. One problem; Mr. Payne never served in the 89th Infantry Division, the division that freed Buchenwald. Mr. Payne was in the US Navy.

This was actually pretty easy to find out. According to the Obama Campaign, the Payne Family was from Kansas (this is confirmed by other sources). So, if you go to the Kansas State Historical Society website and do a search of World War II military records, you find that there were 11 Charles Paynes that were in the military during World War II. There were two Charles W. Payne and both served in the Navy. You do a search of Stanley Dunham and you find out he enlisted on June 18, 1942.

Why the hell hasn't any journalist discovered this?

700 paxnhymn  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:56:03am

re: #690 Occasional Reader

My god. How freakishly grotesque. How could anyone voluntarily have that done the herself?

yeah, and the boobs are grotesque too...


:-D

701 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:56:07am

re: #613 Occasional Reader

Obama, by his own admission, was a tokin' minority.

That's at least half right, but half wrong. Obama will advise.

702 Pyrocles  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:56:22am

Heh, yes :(

You'd think a school would look favorably on space exploration... The walls of the school are covered in quotes by famous writers and school faculty. That particular quote was apparently from a teacher at the school.

I agree that schools are important and need funding, but...

re: #643 Occasional Reader

Your local elementary school actually has a plaque on the wall, advocating the complete federal takeover of education?! (Not to mention the abolition of US space exploration!)

703 mama winger  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:56:46am

re: #699 CEQAttorney

Why the hell hasn't any journalist discovered this?

Because it doesn't advance the agenda.

704 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:56:47am
705 Vergeltung  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:56:51am

re: #688 infidelia

Just remember folks, FGM, burkas, forced arranged marriages, and honor killings have an excellent record of enforcing fertility. Plus it all has the advantage of keeping them uppity women in their place. I'm sure Obama's assorted Islamic friends would agree. The male ones, anyway.

Gotta go take my hyper-sarcasm pill before things get out of hand again.

don't you mean "fildelity", not "fertility" ?

706 loflyer  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:56:54am

re: #650 taxfreekiller

trolls are going to go nuts when tfk does the spy thiney on them

Like what trolls? I haven't seen a real live troll in a year! ( Love spirited debate by the opposition, sharpens the mind!) From the lack of trolls, I assume intellectual debate between conservatives and liberals has defaulted to the liberals due to lack of participation by liberals! That is how the MSM will report it!

707 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:57:26am

re: #682 Vergeltung

right? wOOt! :)

Guinness World Record or bust !

708 Just Another Four-letter Word  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:57:31am

re: #615 loflyer

re: #608 tfc3rid

And it's much harder to turnover the Senate in my opinion... Lot of lifers in there...

Zell Miller left after only one term, couldn't stand the stench around the hog trough!

Zell Miller has principles. Why he's a Democrat (No Longer) is a mystery to me!

JAFLW

709 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:58:07am
710 mama winger  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:58:07am

re: #704 taxfreekiller

oops, slow

this is for mama,

learn this and ambush trolls later

I love troll-kicking contests. It gets the blood flowing :)

You hunt them out , tfk. I'll get your back.

711 maddogg  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:58:36am

re: #576 Vergeltung

I'm scared. somebody hold me.

Now remember, things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean. I mean plumb, mad-dog mean. 'Cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live nor win. That's just the way it is.

-Josey Wales.

712 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:58:56am

re: #692 mama winger

Conspiracy to commit infanticide.

Mama Winger, don't you think it would be much more desirable to live in a society where men outnumbered women by more than five to four?

/This is the tantalizing discussion, and the very saddest one.

713 jcm  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 11:59:32am

re: #685 Eowyn2

Kind of like making people watch as a botched abortion slowly starves to death rather than feeding the child and giving her/him a place to live.

Gives new meaning to
One person's trash is another's treasure.

If Obama talks to Peter Singer....
look out.

714 zmdavid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:00:09pm

re: #703 mama winger

Because it doesn't advance the agenda.

It's also a possibility that they know it and refuse to report it.

715 loflyer  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:00:16pm

re: #699 CEQAttorney

This isn't about who, what, where or when, this is about influencing the public opinion for the "chosen one"!

716 mama winger  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:00:26pm

re: #712 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Mama Winger, don't you think it would be much more desirable to live in a society where men outnumbered women by more than five to four?

/This is the tantalizing discussion, and the very saddest one.

You know, one thing I heard in the aftermath of the China tragedy was how horrible it was for parents who had been forced into having only one child. They lost everything.

717 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:00:29pm
718 alegrias  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:00:41pm

re: #708 Just Another Four-letter Word

Zell Miller has principles. Why he's a Democrat (No Longer) is a mystery to me!

JAFLW

* * *
I had the privilege to hear Zell Miller's coming out speech for George Bush in March 2004. It was later dubbed his fantastic "spitballs" Convention Speech where he said John Kerry was no FDR, John Kennedy or Harry Truman on national defense.

719 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:00:56pm
720 katemaclaren  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:01:21pm

Hi everyone,
Just taking a minute out from grading papers to share my impression of Bill Clinton at his new job.

721 'Nam Grunt  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:01:32pm

Remember you guys there are Brave Men at this moment fighting for the USA and getting killed, don't let Obama make them civilians, we need these MEN!

God Bless our Brave Troops! Do not take your eyes off the ball!

722 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:01:36pm
723 mama winger  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:02:10pm

re: #720 katemaclaren

LOL!

724 mama winger  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:02:27pm

re: #721 'Nam Grunt

Remember you guys there are Brave Men at this moment fighting for the USA and getting killed, don't let Obama make them civilians, we need these MEN!

God Bless our Brave Troops! Do not take your eyes off the ball!

Amen.

725 loflyer  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:03:00pm

re: #708 Just Another Four-letter Word

Zell Miller has principles. Why he's a Democrat (No Longer) is a mystery to me!

JAFLW

He almost makes up for Cynthia McKinney, One reason why I moved 10 years ago....

726 snowcrash  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:03:02pm

I use IE7 and I lose the article title when it gets rated in the Spy Comments. Is anyone else, using something different, having the same problem?

727 alegrias  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:03:14pm

re: #716 mama winger

You know, one thing I heard in the aftermath of the China tragedy was how horrible it was for parents who had been forced into having only one child. They lost everything.

* * *
Did you see images (today) of those family members who lost children in the earthquakes, holding pictures of their only child, and getting beaten by Chinese police for protesting?

They need to ASK PERMISSION to have a "replacement" child. IF they still can, because as we all know, there's a limited window of opportunity.

728 jcm  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:03:20pm

re: #719 buzzsawmonkey

Singer is at Princeton. So is Obama advisor Cornel West.

Watch for Singer on ☭bama's Health Care Commission.
Seriously, Singer is consider by the left to be a preeminent medical ethicist.

729 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:03:30pm

re: #716 mama winger

You know, one thing I heard in the aftermath of the China tragedy was how horrible it was for parents who had been forced into having only one child. They lost everything.

Thank goodness that we are not yet forced to live within that kind of nightmare.

I grieve for their loss of their baby girls, and their more numerous baby boys. Life is precious with or without oppression.

730 sngnsgt  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:03:49pm

I still think it's pathetic that the best Democrats can come up as a candidate is an unknown freshman Senator from Chicago; I'm not surprised, I just think it's pathetic.

731 zmdavid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:03:55pm

re: #726 snowcrash

Yes, same here, I'm using firefox.

732 mama winger  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:04:11pm

re: #727 alegrias

* * *
Did you see images (today) of those family members who lost children in the earthquakes, holding pictures of their only child, and getting beaten by Chinese police for protesting?

They need to ASK PERMISSION to have a "replacement" child. IF they still can, because as we all know, there's a limited window of opportunity.

OMG - I did not see that. How cruel and inhuman. The government is not God.

733 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:04:14pm
734 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:04:24pm
735 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:04:47pm

I think that Charles, in his wisdom, gave the 'monitoring' ability to a select few to help because there is a troll war a coming as the election picks up steam.

736 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:04:52pm

re: #720 katemaclaren

Hi everyone,
Just taking a minute out from grading papers to share my impression of Bill Clinton at his new job.

[Link: www.youtube.com...]


I worked with a woman who hit another co-worker upside the head with a stapler. That was kinda weirod.

737 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:04:59pm

re: #730 sngnsgt

I still think it's pathetic that the best Democrats can come up as a candidate is an unknown freshman Senator from Chicago; I'm not surprised, I just think it's pathetic.

Or is it worse that the best we can come up with is a 70+ year old senator from Arizona?

738 mama winger  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:05:01pm

re: #728 jcm

Watch for Singer on ☭bama's Health Care Commission.
Seriously, Singer is consider by the left to be a preeminent medical ethicist.

I'm not familiar with him / her. Bad news?

739 maddogg  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:05:17pm

re: #732 mama winger

OMG - I did not see that. How cruel and inhuman. The government is not God.

Thats where the "Progressives" wish to take the USA.

740 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:05:21pm

re: #726 snowcrash

I use IE7 and I lose the article title when it gets rated in the Spy Comments. Is anyone else, using something different, having the same problem?

Same thing here. (Safari 3.1 on Mac OS X 10.5.2)

741 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:05:28pm

re: #732 mama winger

OMG - I did not see that. How cruel and inhuman. The government is not God.

No, but it can play God...

742 coquimbojoe  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:05:29pm

re: #675 nyc redneck

i forced my lunch down. and it will stay down, but damn it's upsetting how stupid people are and how their stupidity can infringe on and damage our lives.
let the rest of the world have that moron. he is a bad choice.

Amen sister!

743 snowcrash  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:05:46pm

re: #731 zmdavid
Thanks.

744 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:05:56pm

re: #732 mama winger

OMG - I did not see that. How cruel and inhuman. The government is not God.

It's close enough in China.

745 loppyd  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:06:04pm

re: #732 mama winger

OMG - I did not see that. How cruel and inhuman. The government is not God.

Karma is a bitch.

/Sharon Stone

746 Iron Fist  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:06:05pm

re: #734 buzzsawmonkey,

By Singer you mean Peter Singer, the guy who fucks dogs, right?

747 mama winger  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:06:13pm

re: #739 maddogg

Thats where the "Progressives" wish to take the USA.

I know. To save the planet. To save resources. To insure control.

Because only they are fit to live.

748 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:06:15pm
749 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:06:18pm
750 AZDave  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:06:29pm

re: #24 David Simon

He has a very appealing persona — elegant, fluent, strings lots of sentences together into paragraphs," Cox said.

A bunch of fucking monkeys could do that as well! Cox seems to beg the question "Do these paragraphs make sense?" Maybe it doesn't matter to Cox.

751 mama winger  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:06:29pm

re: #746 Iron Fist

,

By Singer you mean Peter Singer, the guy who fucks dogs, right?

WHAT ?

752 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:06:36pm

Can I be sick now?

Some lizard said this a few weeks ago, and it bears repeating:

In Obama's America, two skills will be extremely valuable
1. The ability to demonstrate need.
2. The ability to conceal means.

753 Just Another Four-letter Word  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:06:39pm

re: #707 redstateredneck

Guinness World Record or bust !

Fixed!

JAFLW

754 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:06:39pm

re: #745 loppyd

Karma is a bitch.

/Sharon Stone

GMTA~I was thinkin' that very thing.

755 Ojoe  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:06:54pm
756 maddogg  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:06:54pm

re: #746 Iron Fist

,

By Singer you mean Peter Singer, the guy who fucks dogs, right?

He screwed mama moonbat?

757 Russkilitlover  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:06:58pm

re: #681 Oh no...Sand People!

The only guess I can make is that Drudge hates the Clintons more than we understand. He is doing everything he can to get them out of the political scene. Then he will slowly creep his way back towards conservatism all the while raking in TONS of loot...I 'hope'.

Or, perhaps, he has just guzzled the Kool-Aid.

758 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:07:12pm
759 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:07:14pm
760 mama winger  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:07:21pm

re: #749 buzzsawmonkey

Follow the links. He'd rather a healthy baby chimp survive than a handicapped child, if I recall correctly, and sees no ethical difference between them.

Oh yes - I think I remember now. UGh doubled.

I say he should do us all a favor and go first. To set an example, and all.....

761 loflyer  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:07:37pm

re: #716 mama winger

You know, one thing I heard in the aftermath of the China tragedy was how horrible it was for parents who had been forced into having only one child. They lost everything.

Mama, I don't think you will see these pictures during the Olympics. If you think the Islamic terrorists have the propaganda perfected, wait till the networks show the "New Olympic(TM) China"! 20 million dead can't all be wrong!

762 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:07:39pm

re: #746 Iron Fist

,

By Singer you mean Peter Singer, the guy who fucks dogs, right?

What?

763 paxnhymn  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:07:43pm

ya know I was just thinking (scary-yes). If the Obamantion gets elected, he will steer away from ANY Clinton cronies, especially after the inevitable attempted sabotage. That leaves him to chose from a crop of even farther left loons than she had...a conservative strokefest.

and would somebody PUHLEZE shoot that McGovern relic Beckel and get him out of everyone's misery!?

764 mama winger  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:07:54pm

re: #758 taxfreekiller

mama winger

I'll give instructions to realwest he can teach you,

Okay ! Tell him to contact me - he has my addy.

765 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:08:15pm

re: #719 buzzsawmonkey

So is Obama advisor Cornel West.

If Obama runs his campaign based on any significant advice from West... look for a McCain walkover.

766 Ariana  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:08:22pm
Indonesians were rooting for the man they consider to be a hometown hero. Obama lived in the predominantly Muslim nation from age 6 to 10 with his mother and Indonesian stepfather

His Islamic following in so many foreign countries is very concerning, considering that Obama's political donation site accepts international donations without verefying if the donor has American citizenship. When several articles published and criticised that fact months ago; I went, "Uh Oh"-- A real potential for fundraising abuse by allowing the rest of the world to pick our presidents via money.

Remember Obama helped ACORN organize its get out-the-vote scams years ago. He doesn't mind enrolling dead people to to win, so why not allow non-Americans to fund his campaign?

How much of Obama's legandary fundraising may have originated from his international, non-American, muslim fans, organizations, or governments for that matter, would be important information to know.
Why haven't any major media outlets demanded an explanation about the lack of verification of citizenship?
Ariana

767 alegrias  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:08:41pm

re: #737 tfc3rid

Or is it worse that the best we can come up with is a 70+ year old senator from Arizona?


* * *
Obama and McCain are in now way equivalent, except one has a twenty year career in militancy, the other more than twenty years in our military.

768 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:08:59pm

re: #738 mama winger

I'm not familiar with him / her. Bad news?

In a nutshell: We can never kill animals, because it's just plain wrong. But we can kill babies, if they'll be an inconvenience to us.

769 loppyd  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:09:00pm

re: #746 Iron Fist

,

By Singer you mean Peter Singer, the guy who fucks dogs, right?

Gross.

What is his connection to Obama?

770 mama winger  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:09:10pm

re: #761 loflyer

Mama, I don't think you will see these pictures during the Olympics. If you think the Islamic terrorists have the propaganda perfected, wait till the networks show the "New Olympic(TM) China"! 20 million dead can't all be wrong!

I love the Olympics - I always have, since I was a little girl. The first one I remember was 1964. But I don't know how much I can watch this year. I don't know if I can stomach it.

771 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:09:13pm
772 loflyer  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:09:45pm

Late lunch on the grill, be back in sometime!

773 mama winger  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:09:48pm

re: #768 Occasional Reader

In a nutshell: We can never kill animals, because it's just plain wrong. But we can kill babies, if they'll be an inconvenience to us.

Lord have mercy.

that's a real prayer - not just an expression

774 Silhouette  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:09:58pm

re: #702 Pyrocles

I agree that schools are important and need funding, but...

They have funding. I think my county spends around $10,000/yr/child. That is higher than the most expensive private school in our area.

And IIRC, the school land and building costs are hidden in a separate budget, so the cost is actually higher than $10,000/yr/child.

How can private schools do it on so much less $? I'm sure there isn't just one answer, but the bureacracy costs quite a bit. E.g., the big building downtown that houses the school board doesn't actually educate one child.

775 sngnsgt  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:10:05pm

re: #737 tfc3rid

Or is it worse that the best we can come up with is a 70+ year old senator from Arizona?

At least John McCain has a little experience in the Senate, Obama is just a radical, liberal, nut-job with little experience in anything other than public speaking.

776 Iron Fist  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:10:25pm

re: #751 mama winger,

Seriously. If it's the guy I'm thinking about he wrote a tome on the glories of beastiality. Lovely example of the L³eft in action.

777 mama winger  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:10:39pm

re: #766 Ariana

How much of Obama's legandary fundraising may have originated from his international, non-American, muslim fans, organizations, or governments for that matter, would be important information to know.
Why haven't any major media outlets demanded an explanation about the lack of verification of citizenship?

EXCELLENT point

778 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:10:45pm
779 yma o hyd  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:10:50pm

re: #766 Ariana

Very good question - and I hope that some will now get their fingers out and do some checking!

780 loppyd  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:10:52pm

re: #768 Occasional Reader

In a nutshell: We can never kill animals, because it's just plain wrong. But we can kill babies, if they'll be an inconvenience to us.

You mean like a punishment to us?

781 zmdavid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:10:55pm

re: #738 mama winger

Peter Singer is bad news. He believes in strictly utilitarian ethics, so new born babies are roughly equivalent to higher animals in worth, because they have similar intellects and capacity for suffering.

782 Russkilitlover  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:11:17pm

re: #591 alegrias

Well, they can certainly speak from experience. Probably regretting falling for that anti-American schtick that was ground into them.

783 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:11:24pm
784 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:11:47pm

re: #767 alegrias

* * *
Obama and McCain are in now way equivalent, except one has a twenty year career in militancy, the other more than twenty years in our military.

Well I agree in terms of what they have done for our country... But seriously, there was no one better to nominate?

And of course, we will now have a sitting Senator be President... Great... No executive experience...

785 redc1c4  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:11:49pm

re: #695 AZDave

No thanks. I'd rather be a heartless, greedy, racist moron.

so you'd rather *be* Obama than vote for him?

/helluva choice %-)

786 paxnhymn  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:11:49pm

re: #769 loppyd

Gross.

What is his connection to Obama?


maybe Obama's the dog...


/brain bleach!

787 mama winger  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:12:00pm

re: #776 Iron Fist

,

Seriously. If it's the guy I'm thinking about he wrote a tome on the glories of beastiality. Lovely example of the L³eft in action.

Oh my God. How far have we sunk as a nation? This guy is employed at Princeton?

788 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:12:36pm

Hey, we have a tornado watch, and an ugly, greenish-black sky. How... interesting.

789 mama winger  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:12:45pm

re: #781 zmdavid

Peter Singer is bad news. He believes in strictly utilitarian ethics, so new born babies are roughly equivalent to higher animals in worth, because they have similar intellects and capacity for suffering.

Oh my dear Lord.

790 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:12:59pm
791 loppyd  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:13:27pm

re: #786 paxnhymn

maybe Obama's the dog...


/brain bleach!

EEEEEWWWWWWWWWW

792 Silhouette  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:13:35pm

re: #787 mama winger

Oh my God. How far have we sunk as a nation? This guy is employed at Princeton?

In their Ethics department.

I'm not kidding.

793 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:13:50pm

Here's an interesting question...

Will either of the candidates resign their Senate seat?

794 Iron Fist  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:14:11pm

re: #787 mama winger,

Apparently. I guess he expresses Community Values for Princton. Let me be the first to say that I did not attend Princeton.

795 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:14:24pm

re: #776 Iron Fist

,

Seriously. If it's the guy I'm thinking about he wrote a tome on the glories of beastiality. Lovely example of the L³eft in action.

Singer stated that "mutually satisfying activities" of a sexual nature may sometimes occur between humans and animals and that writer Otto Soyka would condone such activities. Singer explains Dekker's belief that zoophilia should remain illegal if it involves what he sees as "cruelty", but otherwise is no cause for shock or horror. However, Singer does not claim to endorse the views of either Dekker or Soyka, merely to be explaining them. Singer believes that although sex between species is not normal or natural,[30] it does not constitute a transgression of our status as human beings, because human beings are animals or, more specifically, "we are great apes".[29] Some religious individuals and animal rights groups have condemned this view,[citation needed] while the animal rights organization PETA has expressed cautious support.[31]

796 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:14:26pm

re: #793 tfc3rid

Here's an interesting question...

Will either of the candidates resign their Senate seat?

I say no.

797 loppyd  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:14:26pm

re: #793 tfc3rid

Here's an interesting question...

Will either of the candidates resign their Senate seat?

Put down the crackpipe.

798 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:14:27pm
799 alegrias  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:14:41pm

re: #774 Silhouette

They have funding. I think my county spends around $10,000/yr/child. That is higher than the most expensive private school in our area.

And IIRC, the school land and building costs are hidden in a separate budget, so the cost is actually higher than $10,000/yr/child.

How can private schools do it on so much less $? I'm sure there isn't just one answer, but the bureacracy costs quite a bit. E.g., the big building downtown that houses the school board doesn't actually educate one child.

* * *
Private schools don't have to pay teachers' unions bribes, nor hire non-qualified people that can't teach, nor use expensive faddish bad textbooks dreamed up by William Ayers' organization on anti-US curriculum.

800 mama winger  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:14:43pm

re: #792 Silhouette

In their Ethics department.

I'm not kidding.

GAhhhhhhhh

I can't even speak.

I'm going to go get my hair cut. I'll need to look good for the revolution. bbiaw

801 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:15:04pm

re: #788 Occasional Reader

Hey, we have a tornado watch, and an ugly, greenish-black sky. How... interesting.


Can you hold out until next January, when Obama will make all bad weather go away?

802 jcm  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:15:04pm

re: #738 mama winger

I'm not familiar with him / her. Bad news?

Consider he considers involuntary euthanasia, and infanticide acceptable in certain conditions ethical, I'd say BAD NEWS!

803 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:15:09pm

I think I'm shutting down to keep the proverbial weather eye out. More later. Unless I'm in Oz.

804 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:15:23pm

re: #795 MandyManners

Singer stated that "mutually satisfying activities" of a sexual nature may sometimes occur between humans and animals and that writer Otto Soyka would condone such activities. Singer explains Dekker's belief that zoophilia should remain illegal if it involves what he sees as "cruelty", but otherwise is no cause for shock or horror. However, Singer does not claim to endorse the views of either Dekker or Soyka, merely to be explaining them. Singer believes that although sex between species is not normal or natural,[30] it does not constitute a transgression of our status as human beings, because human beings are animals or, more specifically, "we are great apes".[29] Some religious individuals and animal rights groups have condemned this view,[citation needed] while the animal rights organization PETA has expressed cautious support.[31]

ANIMALISTS!

/

805 Intrepid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:15:56pm

re: #793 tfc3rid

Here's an interesting question...

Will either of the candidates resign their Senate seat?

Is McCain up for re-election this year? I didn't think he was...

Obama just got in a couple years ago, so I don't see him resigning if he loses.

When he loses, I should say. HOPE!

806 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:15:56pm

re: #795 MandyManners

From Wiki.

Singer stated that "mutually satisfying activities" of a sexual nature may sometimes occur between humans and animals and that writer Otto Soyka would condone such activities. Singer explains Dekker's belief that zoophilia should remain illegal if it involves what he sees as "cruelty", but otherwise is no cause for shock or horror. However, Singer does not claim to endorse the views of either Dekker or Soyka, merely to be explaining them. Singer believes that although sex between species is not normal or natural,[30] it does not constitute a transgression of our status as human beings, because human beings are animals or, more specifically, "we are great apes".[29] Some religious individuals and animal rights groups have condemned this view,[citation needed] while the animal rights organization PETA has expressed cautious support.[31]

807 loppyd  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:16:02pm

re: #801 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Can you hold out until next January, when Obama will make all bad weather go away?

I thought all the good stuff started last night.....at that "moment". No?

808 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:16:07pm
809 Iron Fist  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:16:10pm

re: #790 buzzsawmonkey,

Like I told Mama winger, he wrote a book on beastiality. While I've not read it, it is my understanding that it is of the "pro" version of the subject matter.

810 Just Another Four-letter Word  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:16:29pm

re: #736 redstateredneck


re: #720 katemaclaren

Hi everyone,
Just taking a minute out from grading papers to share my impression of Bill Clinton at his new job.

[Link: [Link: www.youtube.com...]...]


I worked with a woman who hit another co-worker upside the head with a stapler. That was kinda weirod.

I looked at that video and was absolutely aghast - I would have had that bozo on the floor 5 seconds after he threw that monitor at another person. And I would have Citizen's Arrested him for assault. Letting him go on like that was inexcusable. Talk about a hazardous working environment!

Maybe it's just me, but I don't tolerate much behavior like that. Maybe it's the sheepdog in me...

JAFLW

811 paxnhymn  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:16:29pm

re: #800 mama winger

GAhhhhhhhh

I can't even speak.

I'm going to go get my hair cut. I'll need to look good for the revolution. bbiaw


ohh..a "Crew" cut ehh? See ya later Komrade...

812 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:16:34pm

re: #803 Occasional Reader

I think I'm shutting down to keep the proverbial weather eye out. More later. Unless I'm in Oz.

Stay safe!

813 AZDave  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:16:53pm

re: #699 CEQAttorney

The records must be wrong! Barry wouldn't lie to us. Would he?

814 snowcrash  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:16:56pm

re: #795 MandyManners
How bizarre.

815 loppyd  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:16:57pm

Hi TFK...

816 Outrider  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:17:12pm

From the story:

"He has a very appealing persona — elegant, fluent, strings lots of sentences together into paragraphs," Cox said. "But in terms of (his) actual policies towards the Middle East, Iraq, Iran, China, Europe — actually, we don't know."


"...actual policies...we don't know." Truer words never spoken. Details or even broad, general plans just aren't known. Lots and lots of flash, but no substance.

817 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:17:16pm

re: #804 Oh no...Sand People!

ANIMALISTS!

/

They prefer zoophilists.

818 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:18:01pm

Must eat food. Bye all.

819 jcm  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:18:07pm

Singer....
Taking Life: Humans

JUSTIFYING INFANTICIDE AND NON-VOLUNTARY EUTHANASIA

As we have seen, euthanasia is non-voluntary when the subject has never had the capacity to choose to live or die. This is the situation of the severely disabled infant or the older human being who has been profoundly intellectually disabled since birth. Euthanasia or other forms of killing are also non- voluntary when the subject is not now but once was capable of making the crucial choice, and did not then express any preference relevant to her present condition.

The case of someone who has never been capable of choosing to live or die is a little more straightforward than that of a person who had, but has now lost, the capacity to make such a decision. We shall, once again, separate the two cases and take the more straightforward one first. For simplicity, I shall concentrate on infants, although everything I say about them would apply to older children or adults whose mental age is and has always been that of an infant.

820 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:18:16pm

re: #810 Just Another Four-letter Word

I looked at that video and was absolutely aghast - I would have had that bozo on the floor 5 seconds after he threw that monitor at another person. And I would have Citizen's Arrested him for assault. Letting him go on like that was inexcusable. Talk about a hazardous working environment!

Maybe it's just me, but I don't tolerate much behavior like that. Maybe it's the sheepdog in me...

JAFLW

During the stapler assault, I just sat there dumbfounded. One of my bosses finally came out of his office and pulled them apart.

821 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:18:55pm

re: #788 Occasional Reader

Hey, we have a tornado watch, and an ugly, greenish-black sky. How... interesting.

Um, you got a basement? An ugly greenish-black sky is bad news.

Saw one like that once, it wound up being an F5.

822 Oh no...Sand People!  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:19:00pm

re: #817 MandyManners

They prefer zoophilists.

Islamists?
/

823 Silhouette  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:19:19pm

I knew about Singer's viewpoint that killing a baby was fine and dandy, long after birth. What was his cutoff, three-yrs-old?

But I didn't know about the beastiality angle.

Ethics department. (spit)

824 loppyd  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:19:43pm

re: #809 Iron Fist

,

Like I told Mama winger, he wrote a book on beastiality. While I've not read it, it is my understanding that it is of the "pro" version of the subject matter.

Good Lord.

Just skimmed the first two paragraphs. The "c" word was enough for me.

825 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:19:45pm

re: #814 snowcrash

How bizarre.

Wonder what Richard Gere thinks.

826 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:19:46pm
827 loppyd  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:20:14pm

re: #818 Oh no...Sand People!

Must eat food. Bye all.

Not too much now. Barry's watching.

828 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:20:23pm

I once knew a guy who many people conjectured was having intimate relations with his large female dog.

When the guy was sober he was as nice and thoughtful as a human being could be. When he was drinking, he became a monster.

One day, while accompanied with a male passenger in his car, it all ended when he attempted to merge into a major highway at over one hundred miles an hour. He did not survive, nor did his passenger, when his lunacy also killed four other people he hit head-on when he finally ended his life.

I wonder to this day what kind of person he could have been without his demons, but I do not grieve his passing.

829 paxnhymn  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:20:34pm

re: #806 MandyManners

From Wiki.


" and he gave them over to a reprobate mind"......


God is the only one that can save us now.


(shakes head in disgust)

830 alegrias  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:21:04pm

re: #784 tfc3rid

Well I agree in terms of what they have done for our country... But seriously, there was no one better to nominate?

And of course, we will now have a sitting Senator be President... Great... No executive experience...

* * *
My friend, the time to discuss nominations is over. It happens fast if you weren't paying attention.

All those other "fabulous" nominees fell by the wayside, or were helped to the curb.

McCain had plenty leadership experience as a military commander, and has worked briefly in the private sector (OK, it was his wife's beer business, but it WAS an American, successful business).

McCain has plenty of successful executive friends, and he doesn't plan to ruin our economy or rid us of executives, like the marxist candidate who wants to change our economy to third world, Cuba style.

831 Silhouette  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:21:12pm
Singer's mother had Alzheimer's disease. ...he explained that he is not the only person who is involved in making decisions about his mother (he has a sister). He did say that if he were solely responsible, his mother might not be alive today

So if sis would just let him, he would have killed his own mother.

Did I mention he is a prof of ethics?

832 jcm  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:21:13pm

re: #824 loppyd

Good Lord.

Just skimmed the first two paragraphs. The "c" word was enough for me.

Level 4 Hazmat required for reading Singer.

833 Ma Sands  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:21:23pm

re: #783 buzzsawmonkey

Have you been in schooling, in the lower grades, buzz? You appear to know quite a bit about it........wonderin'.....

834 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:21:49pm

re: #824 loppyd

Good Lord.

Just skimmed the first two paragraphs. The "c" word was enough for me.

Thanks for the warning. I was about to click on it and see what was there.

835 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:22:28pm

re: #832 jcm

Level 4 Hazmat required for reading Singer.

Level A personal protection equipment?

836 Roger  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:22:35pm

re: #720 katemaclaren

Hi everyone,
Just taking a minute out from grading papers to share my impression of Bill Clinton at his new job.

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Lot's of ballesstestosterone-challenged co-workers I see. Wow!

837 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:22:37pm

Abbas slams Obama Jerusalem comment

RAMALLAH, West Bank, June 4 (Reuters) - Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas rejected Barack Obama's call on Wednesday for Jerusalem to be the undivided capital of Israel and repeated his demand for a Palestinian capital in the city.

"This statement is totally rejected," Abbas told reporters. "The whole world knows that holy Jerusalem was occupied in 1967 and we will not accept a Palestinian state without having Jerusalem as the capital of a Palestinian state."

838 loppyd  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:22:51pm

re: #834 Honorary Yooper

Thanks for the warning. I was about to click on it and see what was there.

It doesn't deserve to be read.

839 alegrias  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:23:04pm

re: #793 tfc3rid

Here's an interesting question...

Will either of the candidates resign their Senate seat?

* * *
Bob Dole did in 1996, but no one noticed, nor did it help.

Being a Senator means you never have to show up.

840 Intrepid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:23:06pm

re: #819 jcm

Singer....
Taking Life: Humans

This bastard would have advocated for the euthanasia of my dear late uncle, who was mentally handicapped. Yet he was dearly loved and cared for by my grandparents and later by my mother and her siblings until his death just over a year ago at age 76.

And this bastard probably would take a second look at my nephews, both being autistic.

I have nothing but contempt for one such as this sorry excuse for a "man".

spit spit spitty spit spit

841 loppyd  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:23:48pm

re: #839 alegrias

* * *
Bob Dole did in 1996, but no one noticed, nor did it help.

Being a Senator means you never have to show up.

or shut up

842 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:24:44pm

re: #837 NJDhockeyfan

Abbas slams Obama Jerusalem comment

Barry, you got some s'plainin' to do....

843 loflyer  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:24:46pm

OT, are you Midnight Blue, or Cherry Red? Non political!

844 madisonsfriend  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:24:53pm

I want a new thread.

845 jcm  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:24:57pm

re: #835 Honorary Yooper

Level A personal protection equipment?

Level 4

846 Terp Mole  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:25:01pm

Tornado alarms just went off on UMd campus. 1st time since Sept. 2001 tornado struck here.

Radar loop here.

847 'Nam Grunt  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:25:18pm

I hope you guys realize that liberals are vile people, in everything they think and do, what's kewl is you can always identify one just by the way they interact with society! Wish this was the old west!

848 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:25:20pm

re: #837 NJDhockeyfan

Abbas slams Obama Jerusalem comment

The World Lovefest is over already? What do the Mexican hairdressers think? Quick, someone ring up AP!

849 Egfrow  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:25:37pm

Absolutely fascinating! Not Obama, the MSM dribble! Kinda like a Heaven's Gate cult mentality.

850 madisonsfriend  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:25:47pm

re: #842 redstateredneck

Barry, you got some s'plainin' to do....

So let's name some town in Jordan Jersualem.

851 Pyrocles  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:25:54pm

Wow, the ultimate Leftist. How is this guy affiliated with Obama? And will he get thrown under the bus as well?

re: #802 jcm

Consider he considers involuntary euthanasia, and infanticide acceptable in certain conditions ethical, I'd say BAD NEWS!

852 madisonsfriend  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:26:04pm

re: #850 madisonsfriend

Jerusalem

853 loppyd  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:26:33pm

{Nam}

Two days in a row....I could get used to this! :)

854 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:26:35pm

re: #845 jcm

Level 4

Mister, you need to get your Smurfs to the vet or somethin', they're not looking very well!

855 zmdavid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:26:38pm

Council for Secular Humanism site search for Peter Singer:

[Link: www.secularhumanism.org...]

856 madisonsfriend  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:27:04pm

re: #846 Terp Mole

I remember that- isn't that when the two daughters of a UMD employee were killed?

857 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:27:08pm

re: #845 jcm

Level 4

Yeah, if it requires a SCBA, it's also known as Level A PPE.

858 Maximu§  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:27:13pm

I see another American Revolution in the making if Obama wins...it may not come down the wire for another 10 years, but it will come and the Marxists will be slapped down hard.

859 Silhouette  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:27:17pm

Some books by Singer

Should the Baby Live? The Problem of Handicapped Infants (co-author with Helga Kuhse), Oxford University Press, Oxford, 1985;

Save the Animals! (Australian edition, co-author with Barbara Dover and Ingrid Newkirk), Collins Angus & Robertson, North Ryde, NSW, 1991

And two Obama might want to (re?)look at:
The Allocation of Health Care Resources: An Ethical Evaluation of the "QALY" Approach (co-author with John McKie, Jeff Richardson and Helga Kuhse), Ashgate/Dartmouth, Aldershot, 1998

The Way We Eat: Why Our Food Choices Matter, Rodale, New York, 2006 (co-author with Jim Mason); Text, Melbourne; Random House, London ISBN 157954889X

860 'Nam Grunt  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:27:22pm

re: #853 loppyd

Mmmmmmm Bunny-hop! ;-)

861 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:27:42pm

re: #846 Terp Mole

Tornado alarms just went off on UMd campus. 1st time since Sept. 2001 tornado struck here.

Radar loop here.

If you have a basement, I strongly suggest you go to it.

862 Intrepid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:27:44pm

re: #844 madisonsfriend

I want a new thread.

One that won't make you sick?

863 runrabbitrun  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:28:21pm

ya know, I don't think Drudge loves Obama. The pix he uses of BHO's drooling gang of admirers make them look like a pack of high school sophomores who could barely manage the summer dance, not what we'd want taking over the Oval office to run the world's superpower. Come to think of it, the world press photos of Obama posted on Drudge's site resemble those of the earnest senior with the top 'A' average, beaming in the Small-Town Yearbook - hardly the image of a seasoned, world statesman.

I think he's marginalizing Clinton now, and showing us the face (not the voice, which is what is being heavily marketed) of an Obama administration - and for folks like me, the more we see it, the less it's persuasive.

864 madisonsfriend  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:28:27pm

re: #862 Intrepid

Well, News threads these days usually do that. I just want a new one.

865 zmdavid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:28:34pm

re: #844 madisonsfriend

I want a new thread.

Isn't that a Huey Lewis song?
/

866 jcm  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:28:42pm

re: #840 Intrepid

This bastard would have advocated for the euthanasia of my dear late uncle, who was mentally handicapped. Yet he was dearly loved and cared for by my grandparents and later by my mother and her siblings until his death just over a year ago at age 76.

And this bastard probably would take a second look at my nephews, both being autistic.

I have nothing but contempt for one such as this sorry excuse for a "man".

spit spit spitty spit spit

I can guarantee with Universal Healthcare we will rapidly surpass the Netherlands. A economic decision will be made and when the cost is too high, "for the good of the people" those who it is deemed not useful, too costly will be killed. Say hello eugenics.

867 Just Another Four-letter Word  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:28:43pm

re: #846 Terp Mole

Tornado alarms just went off on UMd campus. 1st time since Sept. 2001 tornado struck here.

Radar loop here.

Yipes! Look at that spiral motion passing over Warburton!

Duck 'n cover!

JAFLW

868 loppyd  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:28:59pm

I know the Obama/Nation of Islam story is old news, but this story is from last night and is linked at the WSJ Best of the Web Today.

Nation of Islam activists on Obama camp payroll
Former insider worried by senator's connection to Louis Farrakhan, members of radical group

SNIP

JERUSALEM – Sen. Barack Obama employed and continues to employ senior staffers who belong to the Nation of Islam, and the presidential candidate has some "worrying" ties to the controversial group headed by Louis Farrakhan, a former key Obama insider told WND.

869 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:29:01pm

re: #846 Terp Mole

Tornado alarms just went off on UMd campus. 1st time since Sept. 2001 tornado struck here.

Radar loop here.

I see some rotation just off to your west headed right at ya... Storm cell incoming...

870 Alouette  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:29:04pm

re: #746 Iron Fist

,

By Singer you mean Peter Singer, the guy who **** ****, right?

He dated your sister?

871 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:30:28pm

re: #837 NJDhockeyfan

"This statement is totally rejected," Abbas told reporters. "The whole world knows that holy Jerusalem was occupied in 1967

Doesnt he mean Jerusalem was occupied up till '67 by Muslims and then it was partially liberated.

Dont worry, Jerusalem will be fully liberated one day.

872 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:30:34pm

TORNADO WARNING
MDC003-009-033-042000-
/O.NEW.KLWX.TO.W.0016.080604T1929Z-080604T2000Z/

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON DC
329 PM EDT WED JUN 4 2008

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN STERLING VIRGINIA HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
SOUTH CENTRAL ANNE ARUNDEL COUNTY IN CENTRAL MARYLAND...
EAST CENTRAL PRINCE GEORGES COUNTY IN CENTRAL MARYLAND...
EXTREME NORTHWESTERN CALVERT COUNTY IN SOUTHERN MARYLAND...

* UNTIL 400 PM EDT

* AT 328 PM EDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WITH STRONG ROTATION NEAR UPPER MARLBORO...
MOVING EAST AT 62 MPH.

* LOCATIONS IMPACTED INCLUDE...
TRACYS LANDING...
LOTHIAN...
WEST RIVER...
HARWOOD...
GALESVILLE...

IF YOU ARE NEAR THE PATH OF THIS STORM...TAKE COVER NOW! IF NO
UNDERGROUND SHELTER IS AVAILABLE MOVE TO AN INTERIOR ROOM ON THE
LOWEST FLOOR. MOBILE HOMES AND VEHICLES SHOULD BE ABANDONED FOR MORE
SUBSTANTIAL SHELTER. AVOID WINDOWS!

LAT...LON 3871 7656 3875 7683 3881 7685 3889 7654
TIME...MOT...LOC 1929Z 275DEG 54KT 3879 7673

$$

ROGOWSKI

873 Silhouette  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:30:49pm

re: #866 jcm

I can guarantee with Universal Healthcare we will rapidly surpass the Netherlands. A economic decision will be made and when the cost is too high, "for the good of the people" those who it is deemed not useful, too costly will be killed. Say hello eugenics.

When you follow each leftist policy back to its root, you find anti-human life.

874 jcm  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:31:01pm

re: #851 Pyrocles

Wow, the ultimate Leftist. How is this guy affiliated with Obama? And will he get thrown under the bus as well?

He's not at this point, expect he's a colleague of Cornell West a BHO advisory. I was warning that if Singer pops up on BHO Health Care Commission watch out. Singer is very popular on the far left.

875 experiencedtraveller  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:31:03pm

re: #861 Honorary Yooper

If you have a basement, I strongly suggest you go to it.

Or get cocktails and go to the roof...

876 Intrepid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:31:21pm

re: #864 madisonsfriend

Well, News threads these days usually do that. I just want a new one.

I was doin' a take off of "I want a new drug" by Huey Lewis...

:-)

But with the talk of the Euthanasia fanatic being an ETHICS Professor, it strangely is on topic.

877 WrathofG-d  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:31:30pm

re: #837 NJDhockeyfan

I'm sure that once Obama sits down and negotiates with Abu Mazen (right after Ach) he will be able to get him to see things the Obama Isreali-Jerusalem way.

On the quote though:

"This statement is totally rejected," Abbas told reporters. "The whole world knows that holy Jerusalem was occupied in 1967 and we will not accept a Palestinian state without having Jerusalem as the capital of a Palestinian state."

Well I agree with Abu Mazen there. J'lem was occupied in 1967 by Jordan and Liberated by Israel. See Obama is already making CHANGE!

878 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:31:47pm

Holy crap, you got two of them now!

TORNADO WARNING
MDC003-027-031-033-042000-
/O.NEW.KLWX.TO.W.0015.080604T1920Z-080604T2000Z/

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON DC
320 PM EDT WED JUN 4 2008

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN STERLING VIRGINIA HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
WEST CENTRAL ANNE ARUNDEL COUNTY IN CENTRAL MARYLAND...
SOUTHEASTERN HOWARD COUNTY IN CENTRAL MARYLAND...
SOUTHEASTERN MONTGOMERY COUNTY IN CENTRAL MARYLAND...
NORTHERN PRINCE GEORGES COUNTY IN CENTRAL MARYLAND...

* UNTIL 400 PM EDT

* AT 316 PM EDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WITH STRONG ROTATION NEAR WHITE OAK...MOVING
EAST AT 43 MPH.

* LOCATIONS IMPACTED INCLUDE...
BELTSVILLE...
HILLANDALE...
ADELPHI...
COLLEGE PARK...
GREENBELT...
LAUREL...

IF YOU ARE NEAR THE PATH OF THIS STORM...TAKE COVER NOW! IF NO
UNDERGROUND SHELTER IS AVAILABLE MOVE TO AN INTERIOR ROOM ON THE
LOWEST FLOOR. MOBILE HOMES AND VEHICLES SHOULD BE ABANDONED FOR MORE
SUBSTANTIAL SHELTER. AVOID WINDOWS!

DO NOT TAKE SHELTER UNDER HIGHWAY OVERPASSES!

LAT...LON 3920 7676 3896 7671 3900 7708 3912 7712
TIME...MOT...LOC 1920Z 274DEG 37KT 3903 7701

$$

GMS

879 loflyer  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:31:59pm

Terp Mole, that looks like some serious stuff coming your way. Hunker down!

880 AZDave  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:32:31pm

re: #785 redc1c4

so you'd rather *be* Obama than vote for him?

/helluva choice %-)

Ouch!

881 snowcrash  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:32:48pm

Please, people in the tornado watch area go to a basement or an interior room or closet. Wear shoes and put a bike helmet on if you have one. Take your keys and purse or wallet. I live in DFW area and we have lots of tornadic activity in the spring. Better to be safe than sorry.

882 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:32:49pm
883 'Nam Grunt  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:32:50pm

When Obama makes all of these feel good statements as he did at AIPAC why doesn't McCain ask him HOW he plans to do it, he would get a lot of uh's I think! "Just the facts ma'am"!

884 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:32:54pm
885 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:33:07pm

62 miles per hour reminds me a little bit of the Tri-State Tornado. No time to react, unless you act before it's there.

886 madisonsfriend  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:33:24pm

re: #878 Honorary Yooper

My neighborhood but I am work now- we have bad weather here too. I guess I will just be staying here later this afternoon than I planned.

887 Just Another Four-letter Word  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:33:30pm

re: #878 Honorary Yooper

Your Weather-Fu reminds me of Ed of Many Names...

Whatever happened to him?

JAFLW

888 jcm  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:33:33pm

re: #873 Silhouette

When you follow each leftist policy back to its root, you find anti-human life.

The individual exists to serve the state.
All BHO's rhetoric is frosting to cover that core idea.

889 loppyd  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:33:42pm

re: #883 'Nam Grunt

When Obama makes all of these feel good statements as he did at AIPAC why doesn't McCain ask him HOW he plans to do it, he would get a lot of uh's I think! "Just the facts ma'am"!

They would be called racist for daring to question the Chosen One.

890 Sizzlack  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:33:55pm

Some future AP headlines perhaps?

- Barack Obama: Second coming of Jesus?
- Obama: The only man who can save you from yourself!
- Some consider Obama to be God himself, do you?
- Obama didn't learn a lesson from Greek mythology, he wrote it.

891 alegrias  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:34:16pm

Well I salute the brave women from Hillary Clinton's campaign that volunteered for McCain's campaign today and in the near future.

It takes courage to realize and admit ideas you've held for so long may be wrong, and that it's time for CHANGE of the patriotic kind.

Leaving an abusive democratic party is a big step in the right direction. It's a process many here have undergone.

892 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:34:31pm

re: #887 Just Another Four-letter Word

Your Weather-Fu reminds me of Ed of Many Names...

Whatever happened to him?

JAFLW

Banned for insubordination.

893 jcm  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:34:32pm

re: #875 experiencedtraveller

Or get cocktails and go to the roof...

When I was stationed in CO we'd grab a beer and go up on the barracks roof to watch the storms.

894 'Nam Grunt  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:34:40pm

What's up TFK! ;-)

895 Ma Sands  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:34:43pm

re: #882 buzzsawmonkey

Yeah, I thought you taught college.........glad you are so interested in the lower levels.....it is going to be needed, a knowledge such as that......

896 MandyManners  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:34:44pm

re: #862 Intrepid

One that won't make you sick?

I wonder what Pete Singer thinks of ducks.

897 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:34:45pm

re: #881 snowcrash

Please, people in the tornado watch area go to a basement or an interior room or closet. Wear shoes and put a bike helmet on if you have one. Take your keys and purse or wallet. I live in DFW area and we have lots of tornadic activity in the spring. Better to be safe than sorry.

Very much agreed. We usually have a lot of tornadic activity here just SW of Chicago. It's been a quiet year so far, but that's about to change, I think.

898 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:34:47pm
899 WrathofG-d  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:35:08pm

re: #887 Just Another Four-letter Word

Banned!

900 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:35:24pm

re: #623 Vergeltung

Those have got to be killing her lower back.

901 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:35:55pm

Toto, I don't think we're in Kansas anymore.

902 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:35:59pm

re: #887 Just Another Four-letter Word

Your Weather-Fu reminds me of Ed of Many Names...

Whatever happened to him?

JAFLW

Ed? Ed got banned for bad mouthing Charles over AtS and reporting stuff over there for them to mock.

903 jcm  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:36:15pm

re: #896 MandyManners

I wonder what Pete Singer thinks of ducks.

As a partner?

904 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:36:33pm

re: #901 Occasional Reader

Toto, I don't think we're in Kansas anymore.

Everything ok?

905 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:36:35pm

Jimmy Carter is concerned about all you racists in the United States, and he is talking with the Brits to warn them.

Peanut says "No!" to HillBama Due to Negatives

The money quote:

"If you take that 50 percent who just don't want to vote for Clinton and add it to whatever element there might be who don't think Obama is white enough or old enough or experienced enough or because he's got a middle name that sounds Arab, you could have the worst of both worlds," he said.

Calling Peter Singer...we have a brain-dead moron in London. Your services needed urgently.

906 loflyer  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:36:44pm

re: #887 Just Another Four-letter Word

Your Weather-Fu reminds me of Ed of Many Names...

Whatever happened to him?

JAFLW

He pissed off Charles, and has been banned, I didn't see the thread myself, just noticed the lack of extraneous weather reports.....

907 really grumpy big dog Johnson  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:36:59pm

re: #891 alegrias

Well I salute the brave women from Hillary Clinton's campaign that volunteered for McCain's campaign today and in the near future.

It takes courage to realize and admit ideas you've held for so long may be wrong, and that it's time for CHANGE of the patriotic kind.

Leaving an abusive democratic party is a big step in the right direction. It's a process many here have undergone.

That's most welcome news alegrias. As one who also was on the other side, I believe we'll take good care of them.

908 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:37:03pm

re: #901 Occasional Reader

Toto, I don't think we're in Kansas anymore.

Welcome!

909 Maximu§  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:37:03pm

re: #840 Intrepid

This bastard would have advocated for the euthanasia of my dear late uncle, who was mentally handicapped. Yet he was dearly loved and cared for by my grandparents and later by my mother and her siblings until his death just over a year ago at age 76.

And this bastard probably would take a second look at my nephews, both being autistic.

I have nothing but contempt for one such as this sorry excuse for a "man".

spit spit spitty spit spit

I have a niece with Cerebral palsy...totally crippled and is a ward of the state. I read what Hitler and the "Peoples Party" did to retarded patients in postwar Germany...they killed them because they cost too much.

910 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:37:11pm

The worst seems to have passed through here in downtown DC.

911 marsouin  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:37:12pm

The socialism virus has not only taken over Western educated elites, but has metastasized over the majority of the planet. Where's the CDC or WHO when you need them?

912 loppyd  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:37:48pm

re: #901 Occasional Reader

Toto, I don't think we're in Kansas anymore.

are you in a safe place?

913 jcm  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:37:53pm

re: #906 loflyer

He pissed off Charles, and has been banned, I didn't see the thread myself, just noticed the lack of extraneous weather reports.....

It wasn't here, it was elsewhere see...
re: #906 loflyer

He pissed off Charles, and has been banned, I didn't see the thread myself, just noticed the lack of extraneous weather reports.....

914 jamgarr  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:37:56pm

wings that empower him to fly

Oh, puhleeeeze! I'm "empowered" all the hell to fly - I just can't do it because I'm not made that way.

915 Catttt  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:37:57pm

re: #878 Honorary Yooper

Holy crap, you got two of them now!

TORNADO WARNING
MDC003-027-031-033-042000-
/O.NEW.KLWX.TO.W.0015.080604T1920Z-08060 4T2000Z/

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED
TORNADO WARNING
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON DC
320 PM EDT WED JUN 4 2008

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN STERLING VIRGINIA HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
WEST CENTRAL ANNE ARUNDEL COUNTY IN CENTRAL MARYLAND...
SOUTHEASTERN HOWARD COUNTY IN CENTRAL MARYLAND...
SOUTHEASTERN MONTGOMERY COUNTY IN CENTRAL MARYLAND...
NORTHERN PRINCE GEORGES COUNTY IN CENTRAL MARYLAND...

* UNTIL 400 PM EDT

* AT 316 PM EDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A
SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WITH STRONG ROTATION NEAR WHITE OAK...MOVING
EAST AT 43 MPH.

* LOCATIONS IMPACTED INCLUDE...
BELTSVILLE...
HILLANDALE...
ADELPHI...
COLLEGE PARK...
GREENBELT...
LAUREL...

IF YOU ARE NEAR THE PATH OF THIS STORM...TAKE COVER NOW! IF NO
UNDERGROUND SHELTER IS AVAILABLE MOVE TO AN INTERIOR ROOM ON THE
LOWEST FLOOR. MOBILE HOMES AND VEHICLES SHOULD BE ABANDONED FOR MORE
SUBSTANTIAL SHELTER. AVOID WINDOWS!

DO NOT TAKE SHELTER UNDER HIGHWAY OVERPASSES!

LAT...LON 3920 7676 3896 7671 3900 7708 3912 7712
TIME...MOT...LOC 1920Z 274DEG 37KT 3903 7701

$$

GMS

OMG - I need to WARN RNthe people at work! Here in Pikesville, it is almost as dark as night all of a sudden.

916 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:38:02pm

re: #902 Honorary Yooper

Ed? Ed got banned for bad mouthing Charles over AtS and reporting stuff over there for them to mock.

Reposting, not reporting. Brain and typing fingers didn't connect.

917 Occasional Reader  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:38:12pm

No twisters that I can see.

918 redstateredneck  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:38:18pm

re: #910 Occasional Reader

The worst seems to have passed through here in downtown DC.

Not if Obama wins the election.

919 Just Another Four-letter Word  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:38:38pm

re: #899 WrathofG-d

Banned!

Really!

Hunh. Without going into detail, what'd he do? Just curious, 'cause I missed it...

JAFLW

920 Silhouette  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:38:55pm

He gives 25%, says wiki. I guess then, that 75% of a prof salary is only subsistence level? Or is he a hypocrite?

921 tfc3rid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:39:00pm

re: #910 Occasional Reader

The worst seems to have passed through here in downtown DC.

Yes... Counties east and north of you had Tornado Warnings issued...

It's apssed them as well, hopefully with little damage...

922 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:39:04pm

re: #910 Occasional Reader

The worst seems to have passed through here in downtown DC.

It's 2012 already?

923 alegrias  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:39:07pm

re: #917 Occasional Reader

No twisters that I can see.

* * *
Duh, it's pitch black outside two blocks from the White House!

924 Intrepid  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:39:11pm

re: #896 MandyManners

I wonder what Pete Singer thinks of ducks.

He's probably quite smitten with them, what with their nice, big beaks.

I am of the opinion that Peter Singer put one too many dots of window pane in his eye way back when....

925 Just Another Four-letter Word  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:39:24pm

Oh, thanks, Yooper. I missed your reply...

JAFLW

926 ladycatnip  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:39:39pm

#819 jcm

Singer....
Taking Life: Humans

JUSTIFYING INFANTICIDE AND NON-VOLUNTARY EUTHANASIA

As we have seen, euthanasia is non-voluntary when the subject has never had the capacity to choose to live or die. This is the situation of the severely disabled infant or the older human being who has been profoundly intellectually disabled since birth. Euthanasia or other forms of killing are also non- voluntary when the subject is not now but once was capable of making the crucial choice, and did not then express any preference relevant to her present condition.

The case of someone who has never been capable of choosing to live or die is a little more straightforward than that of a person who had, but has now lost, the capacity to make such a decision. We shall, once again, separate the two cases and take the more straightforward one first. For simplicity, I shall concentrate on infants, although everything I say about them would apply to older children or adults whose mental age is and has always been that of an infant.

I attended a debate with Singer and Dinesh D'Sousa a month or so ago on the campus of Biola University. Singer stayed away from the euthanasia topic as much as possible. He came across as a slightly disheveled, affable old professor, which was very disarming. For people who espouse such evil as he does, one would expect him to look and act evil, but he doesn't.

Btw, I was told Singer is pro-killing infants up to 28 days outside of the womb, but would prefer that it be up to two years. Have to fact check that before I believe it.

927 Terp Mole  Wed, Jun 4, 2008 12:39:40pm
re: #856 madisonsfriend I remember that- isn't that when the two daughters of a UMD employee were killed?

Yes. They'd just left from visit