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SciAm: 5 Ways to Spot a Fake Photo

Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 12:56:54 pm PDT

Here’s a good article at Scientific American on 5 Ways to Spot a Fake Photo.

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1 jcm  6/04/08 12:57:55 pm reply quote

Source is Reuters or AP?

2 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  6/04/08 12:58:19 pm reply quote

Step #1 - If it's posted by Reuters or AP & about Iraq or Lebanon, it's a fake.

3 WrathofG-d  6/04/08 12:58:47 pm reply quote

Will we be discussing UFOs now?

4 NJDhockeyfan  6/04/08 12:59:08 pm reply quote

Or you can ask the lizards at LGF.

5 Honorary Yooper  6/04/08 12:59:13 pm reply quote
Send in the Clones
Cloning—the copying and pasting of a region of an image—is a very common and powerful form of manipulation.

Gee, wonder where we saw that?

Oh, right, Adrian Hajj.

6 DesertSage  6/04/08 1:01:32 pm reply quote

The easiest way to spot a fake photo is to go to Rueters.

7 WrathofG-d  6/04/08 1:01:46 pm reply quote

Found this on the site as well: Photo Tampering Throughout History

8 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  6/04/08 1:02:11 pm reply quote

re: #1 jcm

Source is Reuters or AP?

Beat me to it

9 Catttt  6/04/08 1:04:09 pm reply quote

Thanks for the new thread, Charles.

10 alegrias  6/04/08 1:04:35 pm reply quote

Thank you Charles for exposing today's film fakery practices some of us thought ended with the USSR's demise.

11 EC Marm  6/04/08 1:05:17 pm reply quote

Real Life Example:
1. Real
2. Fake
3. Not far from the truth

12 jamgarr  6/04/08 1:05:45 pm reply quote

Cool

13 Shug  6/04/08 1:05:45 pm reply quote

method #6

look for the adnan hajj label

14 Dax  6/04/08 1:06:28 pm reply quote

Scientific American is politically correct rag.....

15 Ojoe  6/04/08 1:06:32 pm reply quote

Unlike Obama's first speech about Rev. Wright, this actually should be required reading.

16 lawhawk  6/04/08 1:06:56 pm reply quote

/it involves a Palestinian or Arab stringer who has ties to: (1) Hamas; (2) Fatah; (3) Iraqi insurgency; (4) al Qaeda; (5) any Arab government.

And the folks above forgot AFP when complaining about AP and Reuters.

17 Egfrow  6/04/08 1:08:15 pm reply quote

There quite a few more ways also such as focal length analysis of lens distortion. The focal length, size, and shape of a lens effects depth perception of objects in a scene. Any object added brings those features with it. 3D Scene recreation software can help find flaws in geometry of a scene or objects.

18 El Anti-Idiotario  6/04/08 1:09:20 pm reply quote

Looking forward to this Scientific American article:
5 ways to spot a fake
/Hint: Barry Hussein

19 Silhouette  6/04/08 1:09:49 pm reply quote

re: #14 Dax

Scientific American is politically correct rag.....

They did use a campaign photo of Dubya's as their cloning example. Are they selling the old cabard "Bush lied"?

20 jcm  6/04/08 1:10:07 pm reply quote

re: #11 EC Marm

Real Life Example:
1. Real
2. Fake
3. Not far from the truth

A picture on the innerwebz...
It must be real.
/

21 snowcrash  6/04/08 1:11:11 pm reply quote

Interesting reading. Does this mean Obamas halo is not real?/

22 jcm  6/04/08 1:12:29 pm reply quote

re: #14 Dax

Scientific American is politically correct rag.....

Other than two civil war era photos, every photo was manipulated by Socialists or the media.

23 Don  6/04/08 1:12:38 pm reply quote

"Fake Photo" is awfully broad and would include staged photos (pristine toys and Korans placed in debris, etc.). This would be better entitled "5 Ways to Spot an Altered Photo."

A lot of this seemed obvious, and yet, I think there are some editors out there for whom the whole article would be most enlightening. What is it again that they teach in journalism school?

24 J.S.  6/04/08 1:12:45 pm reply quote

I noticed that one of the comments (to the Scientific American article) asked why the authors of the article did not include halination...or those tell-tale halos which frequently occur...

25 zombie  6/04/08 1:13:27 pm reply quote

Notice how, with all the innumerable examples of fauxtography by the left, the authors chose the one trivial example by Republicans (that Kos went ballistic about in 2004), "filling in" the audience in a photo used in a Bush ad with additional audience members. (Example #4.)

The fact that they chose that one photo convinces me the authors dwell in the leftosphere and know probably nothing at all about the 2006 Reuters/Lebanon photopalooza.

27 MandyManners  6/04/08 1:15:12 pm reply quote

The eyes freaked me out.

28 MandyManners  6/04/08 1:15:39 pm reply quote

re: #26 WrathofG-d

29 yochanan  6/04/08 1:16:33 pm reply quote

some forms of dark room/ computer work on pics has always happened in professional photo's back in the film period almost none of them were developed straight in black and white development they were often dodged and exposed in different ways.

the point is what is the reason for the darkroom activity? to make a better pic. that shows what is really there or to create a fake image?
that is the issue here.

a photo isn't reality it is just a slice of that reality.

30 greenmiler  6/04/08 1:16:37 pm reply quote

How about 5 ways to spot a Microsoft Word document

31 WrathofG-d  6/04/08 1:16:41 pm reply quote

re: #28 MandyManners

It is a picture of the 3rd Holy Temple In Jerusalem on the Temple Mount in place of the disgusting dome...um of course its...oh never mind.

32 zombie  6/04/08 1:17:04 pm reply quote

re: #14 Dax

Scientific American is politically correct rag.....

Yes. It has become that way.

I knew about this article when it first came out because I started getting links from sites that linked to the SciFi article AND my Reuters "Photo Fraud" piece together. Such as this one:

Shuttertalk: How to spot a fake photo.

According to Scientific American, here's 5 ways to tell whether a photo has been doctored:
...
By the way, this is definitely worth a read - staged and manipulated photos in the media. Very thorough investigation and write up.
[Link: www.zombietime.com...]

...
How did you find this [zombietime link] ST?
The author seems amazingly informed about everthing going on in the news world, I wonder how he is able to keep track....
To bad he is hiding his identity, as he says himself, for good reason.
but I like knowing whose work it is I am reading.

Impressive, anyway.

33 El Anti-Idiotario  6/04/08 1:18:24 pm reply quote

re: #21 snowcrash

Interesting reading. Does this mean Obamas halo is not real?/


Of course is real. Chris Matthews says so.

/screw the MSM

34 DesertSage  6/04/08 1:18:41 pm reply quote

If you see a photo of Barack H. Obama, and his ears are pinned back, it's probably fake.

35 yochanan  6/04/08 1:19:04 pm reply quote

how many photo's in playboy were real? altered photo's not a new thing at all.

36 jcm  6/04/08 1:20:44 pm reply quote

re: #26 WrathofG-d

Real of Fake?

Real....
In eternity.
Will be... soon in time.

37 jcm  6/04/08 1:21:23 pm reply quote

re: #35 yochanan

how many photo's in playboy were real? altered photo's not a new thing at all.

Product photos (playboy included) are all altered.

38 mean Gene  6/04/08 1:22:08 pm reply quote

Wow, Zombie, sounds like somebody is trying to appeal to your ego to trick you out of your safe place.
Glad to see you won't fall for flattery or cajoling.
Your hiding your identity is your strength.

39 newsjunkie_ky  6/04/08 1:23:42 pm reply quote

I love my Country more than I hate McCain.

I have to keep repeating that mantra.

40 MandyManners  6/04/08 1:24:00 pm reply quote

re: #37 jcm

Product photos (playboy included) are all altered.

Boobs are products?

41 Catttt  6/04/08 1:24:23 pm reply quote

re: #32 zombie

They think you're a guy. Ha.

MCPs.

42 zombie  6/04/08 1:24:24 pm reply quote

re: #38 mean Gene

No amount of trickery or flattery will convince to reveal myself!

43 newsjunkie_ky  6/04/08 1:24:41 pm reply quote

re: #40 MandyManners

In a word, yes.

44 DesertSage  6/04/08 1:25:23 pm reply quote

re: #40 MandyManners

Boobs are products?

It's not like it's a secret, Mandy.

45 yochanan  6/04/08 1:25:30 pm reply quote

re: #37 jcm

my point exactly.

46 Gearhead  6/04/08 1:25:45 pm reply quote

re: #40 MandyManners

Boobs are products?

Tonight on How It's Made...

47 Catttt  6/04/08 1:25:49 pm reply quote

OT

My Siamese cat just had a hissy fit because I made it rain.

He's now sulking in the bedroom.

48 ploome hineni  6/04/08 1:26:38 pm reply quote

.....just heard NPR characterize some blog comments about Obama and his questionable spport for Israel as 'vitriolic'

is that the word they use when describing how the rev Wright describs America or the way Farrakhan describes JEws?

I am beyond disgusted

49 WrathofG-d  6/04/08 1:26:46 pm reply quote

re: #36 jcm

How about this one: Real or Fake?

50 Endangered in MASS  6/04/08 1:26:52 pm reply quote

re: #16 lawhawk

/it involves a Palestinian or Arab stringer who has ties to: (1) Hamas; (2) Fatah; (3) Iraqi insurgency; (4) al Qaeda; (5) any Arab government

Is there any other kind of Pali/Arab stringer?

51 ploome hineni  6/04/08 1:27:28 pm reply quote

boobs are glands

52 redstateredneck  6/04/08 1:28:00 pm reply quote

re: #40 MandyManners

Boobs are products?


You didn't see the products on that gal in the last thread?

53 ploome hineni  6/04/08 1:28:19 pm reply quote

..is this the gland thread?

54 jcm  6/04/08 1:28:27 pm reply quote

re: #40 MandyManners

Boobs are products?

In playboy yes......
Of course I only read the articles.
/;-P

I know a photog who does food pics for one of the food mags. Hours setting up a shot, and the tricks to make food look good, then hours of touch up. If you wonder why your dish never looks like the pic... it's because it's not possible. Fashion mags, skin mags, the ads nothing is "as shot."

55 Don  6/04/08 1:28:28 pm reply quote

re: #51 ploome hineni

boobs are [beautiful] glands

There, fixed that for ya.

56 WrathofG-d  6/04/08 1:28:31 pm reply quote

re: #51 ploome hineni

boobs are glrands

57 Catttt  6/04/08 1:29:23 pm reply quote

re: #52 redstateredneck

You didn't see the products on that gal in the last thread?

I remember an old guy in a news thing saying, and I quote: "I don't care if they're fake. I like them anyway."

58 Silhouette  6/04/08 1:29:33 pm reply quote

I haven't done any real study on it, but it seems to me that Obama has been the opening page photo on newsites 2-1 to Hillary during this campaign, and 30-1 to McCain.

But what's more, it seems he is very, very often photographed from below, looking up. With the camera at his waist level, he looks like a father figure to us. And why is he always photographed looking up? I'm not talking campaign photos either.

Quick homepage look-see:

Foxnews - a car
MSNBC - McCain, pointing at us, mouth open, camera level with him.
Yahoo news - Obama, camera level with him, hugging people
CNN -Obama, camera looking slightly up
ABCNews - Obama, camera level (rotating w/a Hillary pic, no MCain)
CBS News - McCain and Obama, camera level, Obama looking up and lit from above
Google news - Obama- tiny pic, camera level

Obama 5, McCain 2

59 really grumpy big dog Johnson  6/04/08 1:29:37 pm reply quote

The consumer science interest mags have all gone commie, so we shouldn't be suprised that SciAm covers this issue like it's an obituary.

Apparently, they don't know the rule about useful idiots.

[Link: www.halabja.org...]

Don't go to that link if you aren't prepared to face unspeakable horror.

60 ploome hineni  6/04/08 1:30:20 pm reply quote

..one of my neighbors was a playboy centerfold

and she had a cover also

lol

61 Endangered in MASS  6/04/08 1:31:46 pm reply quote

re: #60 ploome hineni


How many time have you "mowed her lawn"?

62 Alouette  6/04/08 1:31:51 pm reply quote

re: #49 WrathofG-d

How about this one:

63 lawhawk  6/04/08 1:31:55 pm reply quote

re: #50 Endangered in MASS

Well, I forgot Hizbullah. And then there are Israeli-Arab stringers, who are sympathetic to the cause of the terrorists.

64 Alouette  6/04/08 1:33:18 pm reply quote

There is fauxtography (digital manipulation of images) and there is real photography of fake, staged scenes (Pallywood).

65 paxnhymn  6/04/08 1:33:55 pm reply quote

re: #60 ploome hineni

..one of my neighbors was a playboy centerfold

and she had a cover also

lol

none of us are interested in what she was covered with...


/ducks

:-D

66 Mister Ghost  6/04/08 1:33:58 pm reply quote

If it's a photo of Jimmy Carter saying something that makes sense, you know it's a fake.

67 DesertSage  6/04/08 1:34:03 pm reply quote

re: #39 newsjunkie_ky

I love my Country more than I hate McCain.

I have to keep repeating that mantra.

I'm going to write-in Ronald Reagan.

68 mean Gene  6/04/08 1:34:08 pm reply quote

Breaking:
Rezko verdict scheduled for 3:45 p.m.

69 alegrias  6/04/08 1:34:46 pm reply quote

Geraldine Ferraro is becoming a Maggie Thatcher in my book recently.
Ms. Ferraro is fearless in her denunciation of democrat fakery & thuggery and disingenuousness.

I love this feisty new Ferraro; am so glad to see people refuse to drink the rotten fake "unity" koolaid the party apparatchiks & nomenklatura used to push the Obama train over the finish line.

(Just using ol' soviet terms, same as the new democrats)

70 Mister Ghost  6/04/08 1:35:04 pm reply quote

If it's pic of Obama in Iraq, you know it's a fake.

71 paxnhymn  6/04/08 1:35:37 pm reply quote

re: #68 mean Gene

Breaking:
Rezko verdict scheduled for 3:45 p.m.


well..unless the jury was sequestered in Burma, I think we know what the verdict of this one's gonna be...

72 alegrias  6/04/08 1:36:27 pm reply quote

re: #67 DesertSage

I'm going to write-in Ronald Reagan.

* * *
You're a self-styled SAGE, why would you spoil your ballot and thereby help the other team...that's just dumb and depressed, not helpful as Rummy would have said.

73 Endangered in MASS  6/04/08 1:36:27 pm reply quote

re: #63 lawhawk

Righto. The Islamic dhimification of wire service relies on 5 things..no make that 7.


Let me start again....

74 markx  6/04/08 1:36:50 pm reply quote

re: #1 jcm

Source is Reuters or AP?

You beat me to the post.

That is the #1 way.

75 Silhouette  6/04/08 1:37:27 pm reply quote

More news site checks

USA Today - Obama ( on politics page - Bush on front page)
BBC - Obama
NYT - bombed building
LA Times - drainage ditch
WaPo- Edwards, Hillary, Obama

76 Shug  6/04/08 1:37:58 pm reply quote

re: #40 MandyManners

Boobs are products?

Try my product

-The video professor

77 jcm  6/04/08 1:39:22 pm reply quote

re: #74 markx

You beat me to the post.

That is the #1 way.

Just don't say it's the first way....
Stinky would deleted it.
;-)

78 really grumpy big dog Johnson  6/04/08 1:40:16 pm reply quote

Neil Cavuto's Obamator guest is insane.

79 paxnhymn  6/04/08 1:40:19 pm reply quote

re: #76 Shug

Try my product

-The video professor


he makes boobs now? Goodie!
are the first ones free, just pay S & H?

80 jcm  6/04/08 1:40:24 pm reply quote

re: #68 mean Gene

Breaking:
Rezko verdict scheduled for 3:45 p.m.

When Rezko leaves the court house...
Odds on his getting hit by a bus?

81 J.S.  6/04/08 1:41:14 pm reply quote

The National Press Photographers Association (NPPA) has a Code of Ethics. They are supposed to abide by this code. Number Six states that photographers may not manipulate images so as to mislead the viewers. (Again, these are Press Photographers -- this doesn't apply, obviously, to artistic photographers -- artistic photographers with Playboy mag, Advertisers, etc, all use lots and lots of manipulation so as to sell a product, promote something, etc.)

82 jcm  6/04/08 1:41:32 pm reply quote

re: #75 Silhouette

More news site checks

USA Today - Obama ( on politics page - Bush on front page)
BBC - Obama
NYT - bombed building
LA Times - drainage ditch
WaPo- Edwards, Hillary, Obama

NYT - bombed building
LA Times - drainage ditch

Very descriptive of those organizations.

83 Honorary Yooper  6/04/08 1:42:07 pm reply quote

re: #68 mean Gene

Breaking:
Rezko verdict scheduled for 3:45 p.m.

So they finally figured out the last of the 24 counts then. They were only stuck on one of them for a while.

84 Dianna  6/04/08 1:43:13 pm reply quote

re: #47 Catttt

Did he shake his back paw at you only once?

85 Intrepid  6/04/08 1:44:13 pm reply quote

Is the Rezko verdict going to be announced at 3:45 Central time, or Eastern?

Also, will Fox be covering it?

86 Cap'n DOC  6/04/08 1:44:34 pm reply quote

re: #40 MandyManners

Sorry. SoftPron is a product.

87 Shug  6/04/08 1:45:25 pm reply quote

re: #79 paxnhymn


the first boob is free. if you like it, you buy the second ( plus just pay the S & H )

go ahead.
try my product

88 godfrey  6/04/08 1:45:39 pm reply quote

Speaking of accuracy, fake boobs feel like vinyl cushions.

89 WrathofG-d  6/04/08 1:46:02 pm reply quote

In today's world identifying the actual photo as "real or fake" is only the beginning.

1 "real or fake"

2 Real or Fake

3. Real or Fake

4. Real or Fake

5. Real or Fake

90 Kosh's Shadow  6/04/08 1:46:05 pm reply quote

re: #58 Silhouette

I haven't done any real study on it, but it seems to me that Obama has been the opening page photo on newsites 2-1 to Hillary during this campaign, and 30-1 to McCain.

But what's more, it seems he is very, very often photographed from below, looking up. With the camera at his waist level, he looks like a father figure to us. And why is he always photographed looking up? I'm not talking campaign photos either.

Some of the Obama photos really look like Soviet propaganda posters; the same "heroic" pose, same angle, same look in the face...

Same failed ideas.

Change? They tried that back in 1918 in Russia.

91 Honorary Yooper  6/04/08 1:46:14 pm reply quote

re: #85 Intrepid

Is the Rezko verdict going to be announced at 3:45 Central time, or Eastern?

Also, will Fox be covering it?

Central.

92 taxfreekiller  6/04/08 1:46:30 pm reply quote

TFK is better than Scientific Mag. I can prove a fake photo in one process.

1. If John F'n Kerry is in the photo,,,FAKE.!

93 Silhouette  6/04/08 1:47:03 pm reply quote

Out of 12 sites: 1 McCain alone, 6 Obama alone

2 McCain total, 8 Obama total

Not making a point, yet. Just a snapshot in time.

94 paxnhymn  6/04/08 1:48:37 pm reply quote

re: #89 WrathofG-d

I love number four and the explanation. That asshole has little or no knowledge of metallurgy as oxidization such as rust can occur within hours...

95 astronmr20  6/04/08 1:48:54 pm reply quote

o/t;

Not sure if this has been discussed or posted yet, but it seems the kid killed by the tiger at the SF zoo was drunk and stoned

96 yochanan  6/04/08 1:48:59 pm reply quote

re: #60 ploome hineni

what did she look like in real life?

97 kansas  6/04/08 1:49:22 pm reply quote

re: #11 EC Marm

98 seekeroftruth  6/04/08 1:49:42 pm reply quote

re: #75 Silhouette

That's interesting. I noticed the same thing during his speech this morning. He looked like he was looking above the audience with his chin up. It was a weird angle - I was wondering if it was him or the camera angle.

99 psyop  6/04/08 1:49:50 pm reply quote

re: #81 J.S.

The National Press Photographers Association (NPPA) has a Code of Ethics. They are supposed to abide by this code. Number Six states that photographers may not manipulate images so as to mislead the viewers. (Again, these are Press Photographers -- this doesn't apply, obviously, to artistic photographers -- artistic photographers with Playboy mag, Advertisers, etc, all use lots and lots of manipulation so as to sell a product, promote something, etc.)

What about their editors?

100 Alouette  6/04/08 1:49:51 pm reply quote

re: #81 J.S.

The

101 JCM  6/04/08 1:50:37 pm reply quote

re: #89 WrathofG-d

In today's world identifying the actual photo as "real or fake" is only the beginning.

1 "real or fake"

2 Real or Fake

3. Real or Fake

4. Real or Fake

5. Real or Fake

Staged is whole other can-o-worms.

102 offendi  6/04/08 1:51:33 pm reply quote

So Bill Clinton must be breathing a sigh of relief?

" See, Hillary, honey, those photos of me were photo shopped !

BTW- Todd Purdum may get sued. Gina Gershon's lawyer apparently asked for a retraction about Gina being a too-good " friend of Bill".

103 yochanan  6/04/08 1:51:37 pm reply quote

re: #69 alegrias
now if she had this fight when she ran as v.p. she might have won.

105 J.S.  6/04/08 1:52:15 pm reply quote

re: #100 Alouette

Yep! That is funny...(ok, tragic.)

106 MandyManners  6/04/08 1:52:16 pm reply quote

Guilty on some.

107 really grumpy big dog Johnson  6/04/08 1:52:49 pm reply quote

re: #95 astronmr20

o/t;

Not sure if this has been discussed or posted yet, but it seems the kid killed by the tiger at the SF zoo was

108 yochanan  6/04/08 1:52:56 pm reply quote

rezko guilty on some counts waiting to find out how many?

109 taxfreekiller  6/04/08 1:53:59 pm reply quote

spin cycle now from O'ccult land,

Two Bus hit

110 J.S.  6/04/08 1:54:06 pm reply quote

re: #101 JCM

"Staged" violates Rule Number 2 of the NPPA's code of ethics...

111 Shug  6/04/08 1:54:49 pm reply quote

Ray Nagin apparently sending hundreds of buses to Obama campaign HQ

112 Cognito  6/04/08 1:54:50 pm reply quote

good stuff

113 Intrepid  6/04/08 1:55:15 pm reply quote

I'd really like for Dick Morris to shut up right now so we can get the scoop on the Rezko verdict.

Ok, Neil Cavuto heard me.

Guilty on six counts of mail fraud, so far. Verdicts still being read.

114 Dianna  6/04/08 1:56:19 pm reply quote

re: #107 really grumpy big dog Johnson

Please note that no tiger had ever escaped before.

I'm not particularly sympathetic, though the dead kid seems to have been the only decent person involved.

115 Honorary Yooper  6/04/08 1:56:27 pm reply quote

re: #108 yochanan

rezko guilty on some counts waiting to find out how many?

I'm listening to Roe Conn (WLS 890) right now it's 16 of 24 apparently.

116 offendi  6/04/08 1:56:36 pm reply quote

If Rezko faces time in a "tough" prison, will he "flip" on some of his "buddies"? Heh.

117 yochanan  6/04/08 1:57:00 pm reply quote

so far rezko guilty on 16 counts

118 mama winger  6/04/08 1:57:04 pm reply quote

16 counts - not 6

119 Intrepid  6/04/08 1:57:32 pm reply quote