We still don't know what is going on with the investigation, do we?

I've been stuck in Kafkaville for six years. Welcome, Mark! Nice to have company.

re: #1 hermeneutics

There is no "investigation." That's part of the problem. It's not a court. It's a Kangaroo Farce...a travesty...a Star Chamber. (I've been following the developments through National Post articles...)

Is there a list of "human rights" somewhere or do they just make it up as they go along?

Perhaps it would be quicker just to wall me up with the buried "Justice" mural.

Don't give them any ideas, Mark.

Tourists were shut off from the B.C. legislature’s rotunda this week as work began to hide four historical murals behind walls.

Meanwhile- while Canada goes after Mr. Steyn and artwork- the real threats to Canada and western civilization are continuing to plot our demise while laughing their asses off at the PC idiots.

re: #3 J.S.

Thanks JS -- Are all their deliberations open to public scrutiny -- is there a transcript?

sorry for the way early OT: but....

U.S.: No objections to Abbas-Hamas dialogue.

Sure why shouldn't the organization that the U.S. has been playing against Hamas (or that is what they told us as they gave the PLO billions of dollars, armored cars, training, guns, land, etc.), talk, reconsile and merge with a(nother) Terrorists group?

I hope buzzsawmonkey posts his throughts on human rights v. civil rights and how the former is inimical to the latter.

We're with you, Mark.

‘Freedom of speech is an American concept, so I don’t give it any value.”

He couldn't have said that. Dean Steacy, you couldn't have said that.

re: #11 song_and_dance_man

*head spins wildly*

It snowed two inches last night in Angel Fire, NM. Now it's sleeting. Birds are huddling near their nests trying to keep the chicks from hypothermia. Even range animals are laying down.

Global warming? Its JUNE.

re: #11 song_and_dance_man

I'm just glad he acknowledged that the Bill of Rights is an American document, given to the world by the Greatest Nation on Earth.

(it is so often assumed to be a "World" document that has always been inherent to human existence)

I've just read the whole thing at both links.

This Canadian Human Rights Commission is extremely reminiscent of the "secret trials" of the old Soviet Union. Which Canada seems to resemble more and more these days.

Down in the dark cave of the proglodytes.

some facts from the linked article:

-In 1999, a Christian printer was fined $5,000 for refusing to print a series of pro-pedophilia essays. He spent $40,000 in legal fees trying to defend himself.

-In 2005, the Knights of Columbus of Port Coquitlam, B.C., were fined for refusing to rent their hall for a lesbian wedding

In its 31 years of existence, not a single complaint brought before it [the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal] has been dismissed. That's right: Everyone is guilty before God and the Canadian Human Rights Commission.

but the money quote?

‘Freedom of speech is an American concept, so I don’t give it any value.” —Canadian “Human Rights” Investigator Dean Steacy, responding to the question “What value do you give freedom of speech when you investigate?”

In Vancouver?

No surprize there, Moonbat country, even for Canada.

Does Steyn sometimes feel out of sorts with the human rights supporting media in Canada?

Over the last year I've shaken the hands of both Mark Steyn and Barack Obama.

Let me tell you: I value the Steyn handshake much more.

The CHRC Poem

[Link: www.cruxy.com...]

full of funny examples of actual cases,
for example:
Are your new genitalia out of position?
Call the Canadian Human Rights Commission

re: #18 shibumi "but the money quote?
‘Freedom of speech is an American concept, so I don’t give it any value.” —Canadian “Human Rights” Investigator Dean Steacy, responding to the question “What value do you give freedom of speech when you investigate?”

Spot on post.

Don't the Canadian courts have any rights to review the decisions of the Canadian Human Rights Commission? How could they have such an [im]perfect record?

Canada is in deep Kefka indeed if it doesn't do something about it's mutlicultural fetish.

re: #11 song_and_dance_man

He's right, freedom of speech as we know it is an American concept. Yet another item on that huge list of reasons why I love this country.

Canadian HRC, un HRC- not really about human rights, is it?

re: #26 madisonsfriend

Canadian HRC, un HRC- not really about human rights, is it?

No- it's not about "human rights"- it's about furthering a progressive agenda.

Are there any Canadian LGFer's who can answer my question about Canadian Courts posed in my #23?

If Obama becomes President with a Democrat majority in both Houses and an aging Supreme Court, we'll all be living in Kafkaville soon.

the Canadian government demonstrates to the world how badly they’ve gone off the rails.

It demonstrates that CANADA has gone off the rails but it's somewhat wrong to blame the government, generally or a specific one. The distinction is important because the process evolved, egged along by the commissions themselves and judges. This could happen anywhere in the free world, including the USA. There's plenty of craziness there too.

One hopes that the current government is re-elected with a majority and kills these commissions dead.

re: #23 realwest

Don't the Canadian courts have any rights to review the decisions of the Canadian Human Rights Commission?

I recall from previous threads that there is no appeal process through "real" Canadian courts. The Human Rights Commission is a separate entity.

Somebody was ''live blogging" from there yesterday.
Anyone have a link?
I really have got to start bookmarking stuff I want to revisit.

re: #30 Ringo the Gringo

Obama: a liberal-"progressive" candidate...

Canada: a liberal-"progressive" Country.

you do the math!

re: #30 Ringo the Gringo

If Obama becomes President with a Democrat majority in both Houses and an aging Supreme Court, we'll all be living in Kafkaville soon.

I was kinda hoping for Margaritaville myself.

it is being live-blogged, although the guy on scene just ran low on power and is searching for an outlet

re: #7 hermeneutics

These "Tribunals" are typically called "informal" (yeah, that's right) -- "informal!" -- that means no transcripts...nothing written down. Ezra Levant (when he was called before an Alberta "human rights" commission), knew this and went prepared. He went (along with his lawyer) and filmed the whole thing. (It was an inquiry to determine whether or not to go to further proceedings -- it was like an Inquisition -- it's been posted at his website -- ezralevant.com -- and at YouTube.) I had a list of all the violations of legal norms which these commissions routinely engage in..(it's quite lengthy -- I have the list on another computer..) Anyway, a few years back a retiring president of the Canadian Bar Association gave a farewell address -- and in that address he warned about "the future of Tribunals in Canada" -- these tribunals fall under what's known as "Administrative Law" -- and I find it problematic to say the least -- no appeal, no written judgements, no formal procedures, etc., etc. (The irony here is that the accused "rights" are grossly and disgustingly violated in multiple ways by these "Human rights" commissions..)

Ah.
Found it.
Macleans.

[Link: blog.macleans.ca...]

Really good.

re: #32 Killgore Trout

I recall from previous threads that there is no appeal process through "real" Canadian courts. The Human Rights Commission is a separate entity.

That gives unlimited power to the HRC.

re: #33 mean Gene

Somebody was ''live blogging" from there yesterday.
Anyone have a link?
I really have got to start bookmarking stuff I want to revisit.

Try this:

[Link: blog.macleans.ca...]

. As Canada awoke one morning from uneasy dreams it found itself being gnawed upon in its bed by a monstrous Socialist dung beetle.

And my Canadian wife will continue to insist that Canada's government is superior to ours in all ways. Canada has a much lower crime rate than the U.S., has socialized medicine, lives in peace, and is beloved by all nations of the world... Blah, blah, blah.

here's the live blog link
[Link: blog.macleans.ca...]

Ezra Levant live blogged the first couple of days
he didn't mince words:

Khurrum Awan is a serial liar
By Ezra Levant on June 3, 2008 2:56 PM | Permalink | Comments (4) | Trackback
Julian Porter himself was at the meeting where Khurrum Awan and his junior Al Sharptons tried to shake down Ken Whyte and Maclean's for cash and a cover story.

Porter asked Awan point blank if the CIC's proposed "counter-article" was to be "mutually acceptable" to Whyte or of the CIC's own choosing.

After obfuscating for a few rounds, Awan acknowledged that he never in fact offered a "mutually acceptable" article -- that was simply an after-the-fact lie, a little bit of taqqiya that Awan et al. has told the press.

Awan admitted that he made no such offer of a mutually acceptable author. It was to be the CIC's own choice.

[Link: ezralevant.com...]

re: #45 song_and_dance_man

Rush is their finest export.

And here I thought it was Lord Stanley's Cup.

/Good thing it's on this side of the river, eh. :-)

Hey!...What's this all aboot?.......aye?

Political correctness trumps all...the truth is usually it`s first victim!

re: #23 realwest

As others have noted -- there can be no appeals. (In a real court of law in Canada -- civil or criminal -- yes, of course, you can appeal. But not with Human Rights Commissions...again, HRC's fall under Administrative Law.) Also means that the BC HRC could dictate to the magazine what to print.

re: #21 zombie

Over the last year I've shaken the hands of both Mark Steyn and Barack Obama.

Let me tell you: I value the Steyn handshake much more.

What value do you give to Obama's umm anything?

United Nations experts are also applying their global tests to Virginia, USA--a backwater failing the UN Standard for human rights.

It's Kafkaville on George Washington's Potomac River!

U.N. official to visit Prince William to study [aggressive crackdown on]illegal-immigration policy

[Link: www.examiner.com...]

re: #31 greenmamba

It demonstrates that CANADA has gone off the rails but it's somewhat wrong to blame the government, generally or a specific one. The distinction is important because the process evolved, egged along by the commissions themselves and judges. This could happen anywhere in the free world, including the USA. There's plenty of craziness there too.

One hopes that the current government is re-elected with a majority and kills these commissions dead.

The difference I think is that in the US such kangaroo courts have no real judicial power.

For example, I myself attended one of the extra-judicial kangaroo courts: the Berkeley Police Review Commission, which held a hearing after the February 12 Marines protest. I wanted to see if my videos and photos were going to be used at the hearing, since I had far and away the best record of the police behavior concerning the incident in question (the arrest of a teenager). I shouldn't have been surprised, but not only was my material not referred to, but the only people allowed to give "evidence" was World Can't Wait and Code Pink, who showed a laughably fraudulent mini-documentary they created just for this one "trial" attempting to show "police brutality" using hilarious edits and jumps in their film, and interspersing scenes from other days and other cities. It was beyond ridiculous. But the police who were being accused were not even given the chance to respond. Nor was there any "advocate" for the other side -- onlhy the complainants were allowed to speak. I had to really restrain myself from jumping up and yelling, "I was there! Everything you just saw was a pack of lies and distortions!" (Whcih I luckily didn't do.)

But in the end the "Commission" agreed that there was horrible police brutality that day, but they had no power to pass any judgment. It was not a cirminal trial -- just a kangaroo court. The best they could do was pass a recommendation to the police chief that the officers involved be fired. Which the chief promptly threw in the trash.

The whole exercise was just a way for the lefties to get their jollies bashing the police. If the Commission had attempted to enforce its finding, it would be (successfully) challenged as an extra-judicial system and thus unconstitutional.

Thank god I live in America.

re: #41 buzzsawmonkey

Oh, but I've said it so many times.

"Human rights" are a UN construct. They are high-sounding words which, in practice, mean nothing. Most regimes which actually violate anything that can be recognized as a basic "human right" are actually regimes which do not protect individual liberty--i.e., most of the UN member states themselves.

Individual liberty is safeguarded by the protection and enforcement of civil rights under an impartial rule of law. Without civil rights under an impartial rule of law, there is no individual liberty--and there certainly are no "human rights."

"Human rights" are applied to groups, not individuals--and for that reason alone should always be viewed as suspect. When the "human rights" concept is applied in a nation that does protect civil rights, it is always in the service of a group seeking special rights over and above what they are allowed under the law.

"Human rights" began to be introduced into domestic American political discourse after the Civil Rights Movement had won its civil rights victories, and the Marxists, separatists and Islamists who began taking the movement away from King--and were succeeding even before his death--began looking for set-asides, special treatment, and thumbs on the scale because the civil rights the movement initially demanded were not enough for them.

But where "human rights" really got going was with the "gay rights movement." There was no precedent in American law for shoehorning sexual preference into civil rights law, so gay rights activists began speaking of "human rights" as if they were talking about civil rights, just as the Global Warming advocates are now sliding their language into "climate change." That they began this changeover in the 1970s, when the black civil rights movement was still a vivid memory, and were able to build upon the "human rights" ground prepared by those who had co-opted the civil rights movement, made this switch easier.

The Islamist movement, which adopted the term "Islamophobia" from the "homophobia" of the gay rights movement, has also adopted the language of "human rights" as it increasingly demands public accommodation for Islam over and above the equal rights Muslims already enjoy under civil rights law.

That's like a shot of vitamin B! Thanks!

re: #51 alegrias

United Nations experts are also applying their global tests to Virginia, USA--a backwater failing the UN Standard for human rights.

It's Kafkaville on George Washington's Potomac River!

U.N. official to visit Prince William to study [aggressive crackdown on]illegal-immigration policy

[Link: www.examiner.com...]

Can Doudou be far behind?

re: #23 realwest

Don't the Canadian courts have any rights to review the decisions of the Canadian Human Rights Commission? How could they have such an [im]perfect record?

I think the average defendant doesn't have the money to appeal, but the live-bloggers seem to be hoping Macleans loses this, and they will take it to the Supreme Court if they lose.

But the sock puppets and their lawyer are doing such an incredibly bad job, we're afraid Macleans will win, the BCHRT will find a face-saving way to back down...

but you never know

re: #41 buzzsawmonkey

You meanie! What about my hurtie-feelings?

re: #51 alegrias

United Nations experts are also applying their global tests to Virginia, USA--a backwater failing the UN Standard for human rights.

It's Kafkaville on George Washington's Potomac River!

U.N. official to visit Prince William to study [aggressive crackdown on]illegal-immigration policy

[Link: www.examiner.com...]

* * *
And Hooray for brave Corey Stewart, like Mark Steyn, long may he survive in politics:

"...County Chairman Corey Stewart said he is willing to meet with Bustamante, but sharply rebuked the international body for what he called an anti-American agenda.

“They’ve got a history of trying to embarrass the United States while turning a blind eye to the regimes that are actually not just committing human-rights abuses, but engaged in genocide,” Stewart said.

For every Jihadi we turn into paste on the battlefield, another one works in a group like the HRC

/spit

re: #52 zombie

But in the end the "Commission" agreed that there was horrible police brutality that day, but they had no power to pass any judgment. It was not a cirminal trial -- just a kangaroo court.

This might sound strange but, perhaps the kangaroo court does some good in that it lets the moonbats think they've actually accomplished something.

re: #54 MandyManners

Meh. The [sane] residents of the Commonwealth won't sit still for that kind of shenanigans. No suh, they will not. (Sigh, too bad NOVA is going to hell in a handbasket, 'cause I miss Virginia.)

re: #54 MandyManners

* * *
They're one and the same organic mulch compost rotted manure!

re: #30 Ringo the Gringo

If Obama becomes President with a Democrat majority in both Houses and an aging Supreme Court, we'll all be living in Kafkaville soon.

I hope that Charles builds a "nuclear option" into this blog. Just in case. A registered user can opt out of lgf and have all of his posts deleted while the "speech police" bang outside his/her door.

/ tin-foil hat halfway perched on head

re: #41 buzzsawmonkey

Nekama's Troll Hammer

Human Rights BuzzSaw(monkey)

Let me get this straight....

They have a seperate Court to discuss seperate laws?

What exactly is wrong with the actual Court and the actual Laws?

re: #30 Ringo the Gringo

If Obama becomes President with a Democrat majority in both Houses and an aging Supreme Court, we'll all be living in Kafkaville soon.

I'm clinging to the hope that if Urkel gets elected, he'll be so busy doing what the polls tell him to do (a la Bill Clinton) that the government will essentially be on autopilot.

re: #64 WrathofG-d

Let me get this straight....

They have a seperate Court to discuss seperate laws?

What exactly is wrong with the actual Court and the actual Laws?

* * *
Your Canadian Laws are Not Sharia enuff!

re: #64 WrathofG-d

Let me get this straight....

They have a seperate Court to discuss seperate laws?

What exactly is wrong with the actual Court and the actual Laws?

White man's court based on the rule of law versus Lib court and feelings

It should also be noted that the Human Rights Commission is not run by anyone from a legal background and the "expert witnesses" are some minor intellectuals at best.
I would simply not show up at their kangaroo courts. If the Human Rights Commission wants me, it can drag me out of my home, Soviet-style. They pander to that sort of theme. Let's see if they have the guts to actually act.

re: #59 MandyManners

Good point. For a lot of those people, intent and symbolism are everything.

South Park had it right
Bush should invade Canada !
At least it would slow down the Islamafication of the Country

/you know what goes here

re: #64 WrathofG-d

Let me get this straight....

They have a separate Court to discuss separate laws?

What exactly is wrong with the actual Court and the actual Laws?

It's for mind crimes.

The worst part is the Human Rights Commission is designed to destroy human rights.

re: #23 realwest

Another point though -- although technically there can be no appeals through the HRC (their decisions are final). There is a way to get their decision into a real court of law. And this is what Ezra and Steyn hope for --lose the HRC case, then take it to a real court (it's very expensive though -- again, this avenue is open if you lose your case at the HRC and you've got a lot of resources -- financial and legal to go to a real court of law...)

It just so happens that my member of parliament is the Justice Minister and I have e-mailed him telling him that he should introfuce legislation to abolish these star chambers which have no legal status but nevertheless can impose fines and punishments unbelievable as that may sound. Furthermore the so-called commissioers - or perhaps that should be commisars - have no legal backgrounds but are recycled lefty 'activists' sucking at the public teat with nary a real job or accomplishment in their resumes.
Actually rumour has it that McLean's magazine wants to lose the star chamber performance so that they can take the commissioners to court in a real court.
BTW not one of the complainants is from British Columbia (this is a provincial tribunal). The main complainant is one Mohammed ElMasry an anti-semitic sicko, and as far as I can see from public reaction to this whole charade far from racking up any sympathy for Muslims in Canada it is having just the opposite effect. Muslims in Canada to date have contributed little positive but they are very active in crime and sedition. A cost benefit analysis of Islamic immigration everywhere in the western world would reveal a whopping great deficit. What a bunch of destructive creepy losers.

re: #75 pat

The worst part is the Human Rights Commission is designed to destroy human rights.

Individual rights, for sure.

re: #66 buzzsawmonkey

Interesting point. So much of leftist agitation is about "achieving moral victories" and "sending a message" that giving them a playroom and some toys might keep them out from underfoot of the grownups.

* * *
John Conyers has held "mock" impeachments in Congress.

Mrs. Conyers was at the Democrat super-delegate meeting which decided Florida and Michigan voters were worth 1/2 of other voters.

It's not a game to them. They are serious, and to Hades with unintended consequences to real people.

Mugabe plays the same game & it results in mass deaths.

The United States is very far down this road. Both the Kelo abomination and McCain -Feingold give unprecedented powers to unelected Boards and Commissions, frequently populated by the corrupt or the doctinaire.

re: #49 J.S.

As others have noted -- there can be no appeals. (In a real court of law in Canada -- civil or criminal -- yes, of course, you can appeal. But not with Human Rights Commissions...again, HRC's fall under Administrative Law.) Also means that the BC HRC could dictate to the magazine what to print.

How....progressive.

re: #72 buzzsawmonkey

Communism: Share and share alike.

Islam: Sharia and sharia-like.

* * *
Me No Likey~!

re: #80 buzzsawmonkey

We be committin' those mind crimes together...
-- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin John Lennon

I loved it when Levant was told that he could think whatever he wanted.

re: #55 FriarsTale

Ezra (on his website) has explained how he's going to get his case into a real court of law.

re: #85 song_and_dance_man

The 9th Circuit is offendedoffensive.

re: #64 WrathofG-d

Let me get this straight....

They have a seperate Court to discuss seperate laws?

What exactly is wrong with the actual Court and the actual Laws?

Somebody had to make work for the countless thousands of social workers, ethnic-studies majors, third-rate attorneys, and other professional meddlers pumped out by the Information Society's institutions of learning. I mean, these enlightened, sensitive people can't exactly Speak Truth to Power and Make the World a Better Place working for private-sector firms, producing goods and services that people actually need and use. What better than to give them an extralegal Star Chamber where they can symbolically avenge themselves against Dad, the locker-room bullies, and any other private demons that may be tormenting their fragile little psyches?

OT:

Barak Obama Gets Another Endorsement: George Galloway

Truck Bearing 1,300 Liters of Sulfuric Acid Stopped at One of The Gaza "checkpoints" the UN, US, etc., are insisting Israel remove.
~Sure Israelis might die, but we have Arab conveinence to worry about.

Reform Jews To Lose UN Status for "insulting" UN Human Right Commission.
~"We don't want to hear about how Hamas desires to commit a genocide against the Jewish people, and destroy Israel, we are talking about the cruelty and viciousness of the IDF now. If you cannot just shut up about WHY the IDF is in Gaza, we will ban you from the UN for good." -UN

re: #66 buzzsawmonkey

Interesting point. So much of leftist agitation is about "achieving moral victories" and "sending a message" that giving them a playroom and some toys might keep them out from underfoot of the grownups.

They get to preen and prance while the police chief and others get to snicker and roll their eyes.

re: #70 mikalm

Good point. For a lot of those people, intent and symbolism are everything.

Sounds like BHO and his empty suit.

re: #40 reine.de.tout

Try this:

[Link: blog.macleans.ca...]

Try ezralevant.com (but he may not be there today)

re: #29 song_and_dance_man

Free speech is what it is even if we don't like what's being said. It is up to us who also have free speech to point out the nonsense of others who use it for nefarious reasons.

In the political sense, the freedom of speech exists to permit criticism of the government.

But in the generic sense, freedom of speech exists ONLY to protect unpopular, offensive, or controversial speech.

Its no trick to let people say or print things that everyone likes or agrees with. No special protection is necessary there. The freedom exists specificall to let people say things that are controversial.

So in fact, the oft asserted "right not to be offended" is entirely incompatible with freedom of speech (which could be correctly construed as the right to be OFFENSIVE).

The Feng Shui of Islamic Scatology

re: #81 alegrias

* * *
John Conyers has held "mock" impeachments in Congress.

Mrs. Conyers was at the Democrat super-delegate meeting which decided Florida and Michigan voters were worth 1/2 of other voters.

It's not a game to them. They are serious, and to Hades with unintended consequences to real people.

Mugabe plays the same game & it results in mass deaths.

I can't speak for Buzzsawmonkey but, I was talking about ineffectual losers.

re: #52 zombie

Zombie, was Osha Neumann at that meeting? He's one of the mainstays of Berkeley leftist shysterism, and is heavily involved in the PRC. Google his name -- the man is a laughable walking stereotype of Sixties moonbattery.

Thanks to The Anchoress:

"The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog.” - GK Chesterton (broadcast talk 6-11-35)

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their consciences.” –C.S. Lewis

re: #89 mikalm

Somebody had to make work for the countless thousands of social workers, ethnic-studies majors, third-rate attorneys, and other professional meddlers pumped out by the Information Society's institutions of learning. I mean, these enlightened, sensitive people can't exactly Speak Truth to Power and Make the World a Better Place working for private-sector firms, producing goods and services that people actually need and use. What better than to give them an extralegal Star Chamber where they can symbolically avenge themselves against Dad, the locker-room bullies, and any other private demons that may be tormenting their fragile little psyches?

Spot on!

re: #52 zombie

Good story and fair comment; I still worry about the US though. It IS the planet's only guarantor of freedom and it's looking shaky. You DID have Jimmy C as president (scariest fact on earth) and thus sanity is not guaranteed.

re: #90 WrathofG-d

And here I was having such a relaxing day and you've gone and made my blood boil.

I cannot wait for the day when I can buy a condo in the future "former" UN building.

re: #98 jill e

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their consciences.” –C.S. Lewis

Nothing to add. Just wanted to see it again.

re: #59 MandyManners

This might sound strange but, perhaps the kangaroo court does some good in that it lets the moonbats think they've actually accomplished something.

Bingo. That's what it's all about. Satisfying the moonbats' urge for a public grievance theater in which the grown-ups must pay attention to their whining. After the little exercise in Primate Scream Therapy, we've all gotten it out of our system and we can go home and finally relax.

re: #52 zombie

thanks for the report, have you written that up for Zombietime?

re: #88 LindaMarie

The 9th Circus is Offensive.

re: #103 zombie

Bingo. That's what it's all about. Satisfying the moonbats' urge for a public grievance theater in which the grown-ups must pay attention to their whining. After the little exercise in Primate Scream Therapy, we've all gotten it out of our system and we can go home and finally relax.

Do they dress as badly in the hearings as they do on the streets? Do they smell?

One thing that concerns me is the cost to the tax-payers. Is it worth it to pacify them? Do the hearings serve as a safety-valve?

re: #105 jcm

The 9th Circus is Offensive.

There's a new, conservative chief justice.

re: #101 Creeping Eruption

Its amazing. It also oddly parrallels an old story about Anti-Semitism I remember being told throughout my childhood about the Harvard Board. I've mentioned it many times before here on LGF, but in short it goes as follows: The Dean is complaining about all the cheating and dishonesty of the Jewish students, claiming that it shows an inherennt dishonesty in Jews, etc., and thus they should all be kicked out of Harvard. Another board member states that all students in one way or another are dishonest and cheat. The Dean screams back, No! We are discussing the Jews!

No reason to move the U.N., its just about time to start using our money power against it.

re: #97 mikalm

Zombie, was Osha Neumann at that meeting? He's one of the mainstays of Berkeley leftist shysterism, and is heavily involved in the PRC. Google his name -- the man is a laughable walking stereotype of Sixties moonbattery.

I know who he is, most definitely, but he was not at the hearing that evening.

The Berkeley PRC (what an appropriate acronym: Police Review Commission = People's Republic of China) is controlled by the communist faction of the city, and only exists for the purpose of undermining law enforcement. At first, its rulings were considered to be significanct, but eventually people realized: they always rule against the police. It is exists as a police-bashing grand guignol theatre. So it faded into irrelevance.

re: #29 song_and_dance_man

Free speech is what it is even if we don't like what's being said. It is up to us who also have free speech to point out the nonsense of others who use it for nefarious reasons.

Is that you, John Stuart Mill?

OT: Regardless of who may be the next President, this kind of crap has got to stop:

Pentagon withheld Iran intel from the CIA

re: #28 realwest

Are there any Canadian LGFer's who can answer my question about Canadian Courts posed in my #23?

not without getting in trouble with the HRC.....

/sarc?

BIG CANADA IS RIPPING US OFF!

re: #107 MandyManners

Alex Kozinsky. Conservative & a nice guy too. (although a bit wacky!)

wiki on AK.

re: #110 zombie

I know who he is, most definitely, but he was not at the hearing that evening.

The Berkeley PRC (what an appropriate acronym: Police Review Commission = People's Republic of China) is controlled by the communist faction of the city, and only exists for the purpose of undermining law enforcement. At first, its rulings were considered to be significanct, but eventually people realized: they always rule against the police. It is exists as a police-bashing grand guignol theatre. So it faded into irrelevance.

Many years ago, I had a contract gig transcribing the tapes of their hearings. That was exactly the impression I got while listening to Nasal Neumann and his commie cohorts in action.

re: #107 MandyManners

Here is another article on Alex K.

re: #62 EC Marm

I hope that Charles builds a "nuclear option" into this blog. Just in case. A registered user can opt out of lgf and have all of his posts deleted while the "speech police" bang outside his/her door.

/ tin-foil hat halfway perched on head

You added a sarc tag, but I'm not sure just how sarcastic this is.

Charles? You might want to think about this. You know after rathergate, you are a target.

And now for something completely different:Watch goofy tourists posing in front of the Duke Kahanamoku statue on Waikiki Beach.

re: #113 song_and_dance_man

All I can find on Alex Kozinski at the moment is his Wiki page. I have a bookmark with more about his stance but it's buried among the other 2,499 bookmarks.

re: #52 zombie

In other words, the Leftists were turning the Commission into a political farce...mixing Politics and Law/the Legal World is dangerous (yet another reason to condemn these circuses -- they do a great deal of harm with respect to laws..legal community, etc.)

re: #100 greenmamba

Good story and fair comment; I still worry about the US though. It IS the planet's only guarantor of freedom and it's looking shaky. You DID have Jimmy C as president (scariest fact on earth) and thus sanity is not guaranteed.

You have every reason to worry about the US. We have a sizeable minority here that would love to have Human Rights Commissions..and worse. Take a look at any "elite" university in the US and you will see what I mean.

Our thought police do not usually deride freedom of speech as an "American concept," of course. Rather, they say it is an out-dated construct from the 18th century, part of the ideological superstructure of white male bigots who owned slaves, didn't let women vote, and had laws against sodomy. You know, those pigs who gave us the Constitution.

Fortunately for the left, judges can today read anything they damn well like into their rulings, so that nasty first amendment can be penumbra'd and emanationed into oblivion.

Progress!
Hope!
Change!

re: #117 WrathofG-d

Alex Kozinsky. Conservative & a nice guy too. (although a bit wacky!)

wiki on AK.

Get outta' mah haid!

In 1999, a Christian printer was fined $5,000 for refusing to print a series of pro-pedophilia essays. He spent $40,000 in legal fees trying to defend himself.
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TORONTO, April 15, 2004 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Christian printer Scott Brockie was fined $5,000.00 in 1999 by the Ontario Human Rights Commission because he refused to print blank letterhead and envelopes for the Canadian Lesbian and Gay Archives.
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Let's keep it real. Canadians are not pro-pedophilia.

re: #127 wolfie

Progress!
Hope!
Change

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Burma Shave!

take the last train to kafkaville

re: #119 buzzsawmonkey

But is Reza offended?

an oldie but a goodie

re: #128 MandyManners

Dont miss #122.

He is a very funny guy, if you get the opportunity to do so I suggest you go hear him speak. Great guy too. Some of his decisions are hillarious, yet very well thought out. He likes to through jokes, etc., into them as well. Read the California Lawyer articles about him.

re: #122 WrathofG-d

Here is another article on Alex K.

Thanks!

re: #62 EC Marm

wow...interesting idea there...I like it!

re: #126 J.S.

And one more point: they're a perfect example of the Crying-Wolf Syndrome. If they're obviously grievance theaters for drama-queen leftists, and people ignore them, then genuine cases of police brutality or misconduct will go under the radar. Then again, when has Moony ever thought about the potential self-defeating consequences of his grand schemes for attention?

re: #133 WrathofG-d PIMF

Dont miss #122.

He is a very funny guy, if you get the opportunity to do so I suggest you go hear him speak. Great guy too. Some of his decisions are hillarious, yet very well thought out. He likes to throw jokes, etc., into them as well. Read the California Lawyer articles about him.

re: #133 WrathofG-d

I hope he continues to moderate that circuit.

And coming soon to a Court Room in the good old US of A......Over My Dead Body! But that's why I intend to vote early and often this November 4th!

Where do those zionist checks come from?
Dan Rather to McClellan: Did the White House have any right-wing bloggers on the payroll?

RATHER: Is there a special operation in the White House or in the Executive Office Building next door to it that seeks to orchestrate, perhaps even run some of what’s on the Internet?

McCLELLAN: Certainly there’s a large operation, part of the communications operation is the office of strategic iniatives, working to make sure that... the blogosphere has a tremendous amount of influence, and they just want to make sure that we’re helping to shape some of that narrative...

RATHER: To your knowledge, are there bloggers who are paid by the White House political operation?

re: #104 nikis-knight

thanks for the report, have you written that up for Zombietime?

No actually, I couldn't do so -- for reasons I'd rather not reveal!

(Oh, OK, why not, I'll say it: At the hearing, I ran into one of my (former) good friends from my pre-9/11 moonbat life. We talked. He has descended into an unmitigated 33rd-degree ultra-moonbat supreme [which is why I stopped contacting him shortly after 9/11, although he doesn't realize that.] He ranted, I lied and said I'd keep in touch. But if I were to make a zombie report, there is the slim chance that he'd see it, and make the connection.)

One more:

"Liberty is the very last idea that seems to occur to anybody, in considering any political or social proposal. It is only necessary for anybody for any reason to allege any evidence of any evil in any human practice, for people instantly to suggest that the practice should be suppressed by the police." (GK Chesterton, Illustrated London News, June 5, 1920)

re: #139 MandyManners

I'd be content if he moved us (the 9th) from leftist to liberal. :)

re: #97 mikalm

One would hope he's not Inflated Scrotum Man™!

re: #142 Killgore Trout

I clicked thinking it was Iowahawk

Perhaps a human rights complaint should be filed against the human rights commission?

NOBODY EXPECTS THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION!

re: #106 MandyManners

Do they dress as badly in the hearings as they do on the streets? Do they smell?

One thing that concerns me is the cost to the tax-payers. Is it worth it to pacify them? Do the hearings serve as a safety-valve?

They dress even worse at the hearings, if that's even possible.

Smell? Like someone who lives near a charnel house, after a while you get so accustomed to the "background odor" that I don't even know any more.

The taxpayers voted to have the commission. Berkeley is extremely left-wing. They want it. (Or wanted it when it was first created long ago.) Once an institution gets started, it's difficult to dismantle it.

I'm wondering where all the folks who love to scream about blacklistings and McCarthyism are when this kind of crap goes on.

re: #143 zombie

No actually, I couldn't do so -- for reasons I'd rather not reveal!

(Oh, OK, why not, I'll say it: At the hearing, I ran into one of my (former) good friends from my pre-9/11 moonbat life. We talked. He has descended into an unmitigated 33rd-degree ultra-moonbat supreme [which is why I stopped contacting him shortly after 9/11, although he doesn't realize that.] He ranted, I lied and said I'd keep in touch. But if I were to make a zombie report, there is the slim chance that he'd see it, and make the connection.)

* * *
Zombie, had you been willing, you could have infiltrated Saddam's inner circle. You should be teaching spycraft to our own "intelligence" community.

I'm so grateful to you for using your skills & talents for good.

Kos tackles the important issues.....
McCain's teeth
by kos

It's pretty bad when your hair is whiter than your teeth. Take a closer look:
...
I mean, they have teeth whitening products today. Just ask Chuck Norris. There's also photoshop. No one at Camp McCain thinks this is relevant or worth fixing? Take away the highlights from his teeth, and they are literally this color ...

... and seriously, that's just gross.

Change!

re: #147 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Ha!

re: #11 song_and_dance_man

Huh?

‘Freedom of speech is an American concept, so I don’t give it any value.” —Canadian “Human Rights” Investigator Dean Steacy, responding to the question “What value do you give freedom of speech when you investigate?”

It's an American value (civil right), not a World value (human right). Therefore it is null and void.

re: #143 zombie

Did you just say that that report was sent in by a guest street reporter as you couldn't make it because you were out don't personal things?

ok, maybe next time. In fact, maybe I'll start taking pics from around town (if/when I get the time) & you can put them on Zombietime (if you'd like of course) thus, it won't be 100% from the infamous "Zombie". Which will give you some breathing room. Decoys if you will.

Charnel House? You been reading too much Poe.

re: #144 jill e

One more:

"Liberty is the very last idea that seems to occur to anybody, in considering any political or social proposal. It is only necessary for anybody for any reason to allege any evidence of any evil in any human practice, for people instantly to suggest that the practice should be suppressed by the police." (GK Chesterton, Illustrated London News, June 5, 1920)

.......or "solved" by a federal program, we might add.

re: #41 buzzsawmonkey

Oh, but I've said it so many times.

"Human rights" are a UN construct. They are high-sounding words which, in practice, mean nothing. Most regimes which actually violate anything that can be recognized as a basic "human right" are actually regimes which do not protect individual liberty--i.e., most of the UN member states themselves.

Individual liberty is safeguarded by the protection and enforcement of civil rights under an impartial rule of law. Without civil rights under an impartial rule of law, there is no individual liberty--and there certainly are no "human rights."

"Human rights" are applied to groups, not individuals--and for that reason alone should always be viewed as suspect. When the "human rights" concept is applied in a nation that does protect civil rights, it is always in the service of a group seeking special rights over and above what they are allowed under the law.

"Human rights" began to be introduced into domestic American political discourse after the Civil Rights Movement had won its civil rights victories, and the Marxists, separatists and Islamists who began taking the movement away from King--and were succeeding even before his death--began looking for set-asides, special treatment, and thumbs on the scale because the civil rights the movement initially demanded were not enough for them.

But where "human rights" really got going was with the "gay rights movement." There was no precedent in American law for shoehorning sexual preference into civil rights law, so gay rights activists began speaking of "human rights" as if they were talking about civil rights, just as the Global Warming advocates are now sliding their language into "climate change." That they began this changeover in the 1970s, when the black civil rights movement was still a vivid memory, and were able to build upon the "human rights" ground prepared by those who had co-opted the civil rights movement, made this switch easier.

The Islamist movement, which adopted the term "Islamophobia" from the "homophobia" of the gay rights movement, has also adopted the language of "human rights" as it increasingly demands public accommodation for Islam over and above the equal rights Muslims already enjoy under civil rights law.

Had to log in to ding you and heart this post. Great stuff and I agree with it. This is what the Islamists in our country are doing to suppress criticism of Islam and to force their backward death cult on the rest of us.

re: #118 mikalm

Many years ago, I had a contract gig transcribing the tapes of their hearings. That was exactly the impression I got while listening to Nasal Neumann and his commie cohorts in action.

Ahh, interesting! What a job.

Somewhere in some archive are all your transcripts. Preserved for posterity as a record of Berkeley's extremism. One day, an archaeologist will discover them and get a 31st century PhD out of it.

Don't get me wrong. I don't think he wanted it to happen, craves the attention, wants his country to have gotten this bad, or anything like that. And if he had his druthers, there would be no commission.

But I think he enjoys telling them that he doesn't recoginize their authority, and explaining how they are serving the needs of evil (anti-freedom) rather than the "good" they think they are doing.

He is certainly well blessed with the talent of putting it in just the right words what is wrong with the whole circus.

#155 The Koskidz are revolting....
Please take down the "teeth" post

In 1968, the Vietnamese broke off many of his teeth at the gum and tortured him for hours on end.

...
Seriously. It's a stupid, sophomoric post. It's the kind of thing we would hate if the MSM or the wingnuts did it.

re: #153 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'm wondering where all the folks who love to scream about blacklistings and McCarthyism are when this kind of crap goes on.

Drinking their lattes and complaining about how hard it is to get good help now a days.

re: #155 Killgore Trout

Kos tackles the important issues.....
McCain's teeth
by kos

Change!

* * *
McCain's teeth reflect 5.5 years of government healthcare all right--provided by communists breaking his teeth, feeding him water & beetle grubs, without toothbrushes, toothpaste, or dental care.

re: #155 Killgore Trout
Deep inside I know it is racist if I mention the whiteness of Obamas teeth.

re: #159 song_and_dance_man

Possibly. We have some State Dept folks here, I'm sure there are some Pentagon types too.

re: #131 Shug

take the last train to kafkaville

I prefer the Last Train to Skaville

re: #112 MandyManners

Is that you, John Stuart Mill?

Ooooh Mandy I love it when you talk like that.... could you whisper 'David Ricardo' for me?

re: #155 Killgore Trout

They are after his teeth AGAIN?

You'd think they would have been humiliated enough last time when it was pointed out to them that if his teeth are less than prime,it is because he had them knocked out by his communist captors while he was a prisoner of war, wearing his country's uniform.

re: #169 snowcrash

Deep inside I know it is racist if I mention the whiteness of Obamas teeth.

Just dont mention his ears.

re: #169 snowcrash

I was thinking the same thing. In Asia there's a famous racist toothpaste: Darkie Toothpaste

re: #170 Killgore Trout

Possibly. We have some State Dept folks here, I'm sure there are some Pentagon types too.

I alway liked the Diplomad.

re: #175 Silhouette

Yeah, even the koskidz have pointed that out. Kos is an idiot.

re: #43 Pyrocles

And my Canadian wife will continue to insist that Canada's government is superior to ours in all ways. Canada has a much lower crime rate than the U.S., has socialized medicine, lives in peace, and is beloved by all nations of the world... Blah, blah, blah.

"You've got to stand for something or you'll fall for anything" --Aaron Tippin.

When you stand for something, you are typically taking a stand against something. If you stand against something, someone is going to be offended. That's just too bad.

Turkey Bans Wearing of Muslim Headscarf At University.
(you have to read their reasoning. Seems the American Liberals should be against the Headscarf too)

re: #170 Killgore Trout

Possibly. We have some State Dept folks here, I'm sure there are some Pentagon types too.

I get a check from the DoD does that count? It ain't big but it arrives more consistently than the zionist check does.

This is the money quote:

who needs free speech when we have socialized medicine?!

Socialism kills liberty. Every time.

re: #151 zombie

They dress even worse at the hearings, if that's even possible.

Smell? Like someone who lives near a charnel house, after a while you get so accustomed to the "background odor" that I don't even know any more.

The taxpayers voted to have the commission. Berkeley is extremely left-wing. They want it. (Or wanted it when it was first created long ago.) Once an institution gets started, it's difficult to dismantle it.

Sounds like a sensory delight!

re: #169 snowcrash

Deep inside I know it is racist if I mention the whiteness of Obamas teeth.

fake, just like the rest of him

re: #123 SusanL

You added a sarc tag, but I'm not sure just how sarcastic this is.

Charles? You might want to think about this. You know after rathergate, you are a target.

Like this?

(Note the Obama-like "you can no more destroy this ship as I can change color).

/The overacting. THE. OVER. ACTING!

re: #175 Silhouette

They are after his teeth AGAIN?

You'd think they would have been humiliated enough last time when it was pointed out to them that if his teeth are less than prime,it is because he had them knocked out by his communist captors while he was a prisoner of war, wearing his country's uniform.

Yes, they need to be told again and again - after all, they'v'e got the attention span of a pea.

re: #155 Killgore Trout

Kos tackles the important issues.....
McCain's teeth
by kos

Change!

Piss ants!

re: #178 coquimbojoe

I alway liked the Diplomad.

Is this the same blogger who quit a few years back?
Because I loved that guy!
(Apparently not.)
Thanks for linking.
Whether he's the original or not it is great to read.

re: #153 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I'm wondering where all the folks who love to scream about blacklistings and McCarthyism are when this kind of crap goes on.

Writing books, making movies & singing songs about how their freedom of speech is being taken away from them.

re: #163 zombie

Ahh, interesting! What a job.

Somewhere in some archive are all your transcripts. Preserved for posterity as a record of Berkeley's extremism. One day, an archaeologist will discover them and get a 31st century PhD out of it.

Will anyone believe it?

re: #158 WrathofG-d

Did you just say that that report was sent in by a guest street reporter as you couldn't make it because you were out don't personal things?

ok, maybe next time. In fact, maybe I'll start taking pics from around town (if/when I get the time) & you can put them on Zombietime (if you'd like of course) thus, it won't be 100% from the infamous "Zombie". Which will give you some breathing room. Decoys if you will.

Well, that's an interesting concept, but it will only add to my towering and unmanageable work pile. I still have over 40 unfinished reports littering my hard drive. Getting more from contributors would be a burden! Of course, if you sent in finished/edited reports just ready to post as is, that'd be much better -- but they'd have to match the zombietime ouevre in style/quality/content!

The truth is, at least two or three times a week I already do get unsolicited "submissions" from people around the country: "I've taken these pictures of protest XYZ in my town! Please post them on your site!" I've become so overwhelmed I haven't had the time to write rejection letters to most of them.

Only in the rarest of instances (such as with LGFer ciaospirit's Columbus report) do I actually deem it worthy of posting online under my imprimatur.

I signed up to be a citizen journalist -- not a "citizen editor"!

(Wait, I didn't sign up for anything at all! What the hell am I even doing here?)

re: #172 buzzsawmonkey

That catapulted the post into the current "Top 10." I feel like I've rung the bell at the Try-Your-Strength at the county fairgrounds.

Where's my Stuffed Bear™?

The achievement is it's own reward. Plus, I hear if you're really nice to Stinky Beaumont, you'll get a bigger Zionist paycheck.

re: #166 Killgore Trout

#155 The Koskidz are revolting....

Why, yes they are!

re: #49 J.S.

As others have noted -- there can be no appeals. (In a real court of law in Canada -- civil or criminal -- yes, of course, you can appeal. But not with Human Rights Commissions...again, HRC's fall under Administrative Law.) Also means that the BC HRC could dictate to the magazine what to print.

I'm sure several cases have been appealed and at least one overturned.
It's my understanding that Macleans wants to lose, as does Ezra Levant in Alberta, so that it can get into real courts with real rules, judges, etc.

/IANAL

re: #195 MandyManners

Why, yes they are!

As Mrs. Tweety would say, "Finally, something we agree on."

/obscure Chicken Run quote

re: #193 zombie

match the zombietime ouevre ?

Hey, what country do you think this is man?

I worked at an event recently that drew hippie protesters. I was shocked when they were actually smelly.

They looked like they were straight from central casting, and very unimaginative costumes at that. The only way they could have been more stereotypical is if their names were all Moonbeam.

re: #172 buzzsawmonkey

That catapulted the post into the current "Top 10." I feel like I've rung the bell at the Try-Your-Strength at the county fairgrounds.

Where's my Stuffed Bear™?

Here you go!

re: #174 experiencedtraveller

*David Ricardo*

re: #173 song_and_dance_man

Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms

Whereas Canada is founded upon principles that recognize the supremacy of God and the rule of law:

2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:

Not enemooore..

/channeling Inspector Clusoe

Correction:

BC government, not Canada government

I just sent the Mark Hemingway link to a liberal Canadian friend. I wonder what the response will be.

re: #204 Occasional Reader

I just sent the Mark Hemingway link to a liberal Canadian friend. I wonder what the response will be.

A warrant for your arrest?

re: #190 mean Gene

Is this the same blogger who quit a few years back?
Because I loved that guy!
(Apparently not.)
Thanks for linking.
Whether he's the original or not it is great to read.

Yes he is the guy who knocked the snot out of the UN after the Tsunami. Here's a fantastic post about Colombia...

re: #205 Peacekeeper

Probably.

re: #177 Killgore Trout

I was thinking the same thing. In Asia there's a famous racist toothpaste: Darkie Toothpaste

When I lived there they changed it to Darlie. I was a great toothpaste. It is the only type I used for two years there. The shock value negated any potential damage to my teeth....

re: #190 mean Gene

Is this the same blogger who quit a few years back?
Because I loved that guy!
(Apparently not.)
Thanks for linking.
Whether he's the original or not it is great to read.

Another good source is Former Spook.

re: #169 snowcrash

Deep inside I know it is racist if I mention the whiteness of Obamas teeth.

What about his freakishly large ears? Is that racist?

I guess the stopped clock is symbolic of if the human rights commission ever accidentally says something correct?

Hot Air picked up the Kos teeth thing...
Stay classy, Kos: Markos goes after McCain’s ... teeth

You know, I fail to see how this heals the oceans, helps Michelle Obama’s kids, or has anything to do with why people should vote for or against John McCain. Then again, I’m not the blogosphere’s cheerleader-in-chief for a candidate with no executive experience, no foreign-policy experience, no military experience, and a grand total of three years in national office with no legislative track record. If I was, I’d be tempted to find distractions like the tooth color of a man whose mouth and the rest of his body got tortured and beaten for five and a half years in service to this country.

Just in case this gets “disappeared”, I have the post cached here with comments through 1 pm CT today

Heh.

ohh great. The Obamessiah has already started limiting freedoms and he's not even been nominated yet:

Obamessia declares, "Zero tolerance for homeless vets"

I guess he's going to take the downtown schizophrenics and chain them to their beds and force feed them their meds. So much for patient rights.

what a dumbass!

re: #209 coquimbojoe

When I lived there they changed it to Darlie.

I was in the area until about '86 and it was still Darkie. When did they change it?

re: #187 looking closely

(Note the Obama-like "you can no more destroy this ship as I can change color).

Forgot to mention, this is coming from the half-white, half-black character!

re: #198 CommonCents

Hey, what country do you think this is man?

"charnel house," "oeuvre" -- I've got to tone down the vocabulary to knuckledragger level so everyone here can understand!

Let me put them through the Republicanator^®:

charnel house - That there stinky barn wheres boy-cows meet they maker.
oeuvre - All the stuff I done created.

re: #214 paxnhymn

I guess he's going to take the downtown schizophrenics and chain them to their beds and force feed them their meds. So much for patient rights.

Force is acceptable to every leftist as long as it is for "good."

re: #210 lawhawk

Another good source is Former Spook.

Great site!

re: #219 Silhouette

Force is acceptable to every leftist as long as it is for YOUR OWN "good."

fixed

re: #216 Killgore Trout

I was in the area until about '86 and it was still Darkie. When did they change it?

I am a Dentist and I have never heard of either? I guess I should get out more.

re: #216 Killgore Trout

I was in the area until about '86 and it was still Darkie. When did they change it?

About 1990-early 91.

re: #219 Silhouette

Force is acceptable to every leftist as long as it is for "good."

so, the long slow train taking the US towards totalitarianism via socialism is now on a hilltop and gathering up speed....

re: #218 zombie

"charnel house," "oeuvre" -- I've got to tone down the vocabulary to knuckledragger level so everyone here can understand!

Let me put them through the Republicanator^®:

charnel house - That there stinky barn wheres boy-cows meet they maker.
oeuvre - All the stuff I done created.

Some of us understand. I mean, "charnel house" is used a lot by Lovecraft, and there are Lovecraft readers here at LGF - enough to notice how well the Obamanation fits the description of Nyarlathotep.

re: #221 coquimbojoe

Great site!

Ditto!
Thanks.
I'm dusting off my ''bookmark'' button.

re: #215 taxfreekiller

At Timberline Lodge 6 days with some snow between now and next Thursday.

Global Fraud.

now now now ,,, it's not "WARMING" anymore because of inconvenient things like that ,,, it's "climate CHANGE"

re: #223 Nevergiveup

I am a Dentist and I have never heard of either? I guess I should get out more.

Its a chinese brand... Probably too much lead in it to pass muster here...but it tasted great!

What this means is that everyone in Canada now has fundamental freedoms, provided they’re not in conflict with whatever specious definition of “human rights” the CHRC chooses to apply.

That is very frightening.

OT
How or who do I report a number to who keeps calling me. Have been receiving calls for months---have tried the pressing 2 to be removed and have even pressed the 1 to talk to someone. Each time I press the 1 and a person comes on as soon as I say place on do not ---they hang up. Whenever I try calling back, a recording says the # is out of service.

re: #177 Killgore Trout

I was thinking the same thing. In Asia there's a famous racist toothpaste: Darkie Toothpaste

At least as of 2003 (last time I was there), there was still a restaurant in Cherry Grove, SC called "Tar Baby's". The sign for the restaurant featured a cariacature of a grinning black boy eating either ribs or chicken, don't recall which. Unbelievable.

re: #214 paxnhymn

ohh great. The Obamessiah has already started limiting freedoms and he's not even been nominated yet:

Obamessia declares, "Zero tolerance for homeless vets"

I guess he's going to take the downtown schizophrenics and chain them to their beds and force feed them their meds. So much for patient rights.

what a dumbass!

The formulation of that came off a bit wrong, Obama wants to ensure that no Vets are homeless, not that the ones who are get persecuted.

Now if only he were as supportive of our soldiers who are in the field in Iraq and Afghanistan, I'd be a bit more receptive to his message here.

re: #218 zombie

I thank ya kindly

re: #218 zombie

But tell us, what's an ocicat?

Who was that snarky moonbat, does anyone recall? He owned an ocicat and sneered that (people who disagree with his politics) are so dumb they probably never heard of one.

OT, But I haven't seen this posted yet.

Courage, Honor and Dedication.

Arlington Funeral Terrible weather

re: #223 Nevergiveup

I am a Dentist and I have never heard of either? I guess I should get out more.

We have a dentist in the house?

So just how bad is it that a crown fell off a molar about 6 weeks ago and I haven't gotten it fixed yet?

re: #213 Killgore Trout

Hot Air picked up the Kos teeth thing...
Stay classy, Kos: Markos goes after McCain’s ... teeth

This issue has come up before. The Kossacks don't realize they're playing right into our hands:

McCain's teeth are yellow because his real front teeth were broken off and destroyed during hideous tortures at the hands of the Viet Cong. What you see are '70s era caps or crowns that have yellowed.

Drawing attention to this fact only serves to remind the country once again of the suffering McCain endured for his fellow men and for us.

Yes, perhaps McCain should get all his old crowns replaced by a cosmetic dentist, but personally I think he should wear his old ones as a badge of honor.

Kos has stepped into it once again.

re: #231 Inquisitive

OT
How or who do I report a number to who keeps calling me. Have been receiving calls for months---have tried the pressing 2 to be removed and have even pressed the 1 to talk to someone. Each time I press the 1 and a person comes on as soon as I say place on do not ---they hang up. Whenever I try calling back, a recording says the # is out of service.

the national do not call registry is a joke. Forget it. Have your atty write them a nastygram.

re: #218 zombie

"charnel house," "oeuvre" -- I've got to tone down the vocabulary to knuckledragger level so everyone here can understand!

Let me put them through the Republicanator^®:

charnel house - That there stinky barn wheres boy-cows meet they maker.
oeuvre - All the stuff I done created.

Hey, don't sell us short, zombie. The Charnel House of Parma, by Stendhal... we know what's what!

re: #232 Occasional Reader

At least as of 2003 (last time I was there), there was still a restaurant in Cherry Grove, SC called "Tar Baby's". The sign for the restaurant featured a cariacature of a grinning black boy eating either ribs or chicken, don't recall which. Unbelievable.

Racism Not Part of Tar Baby Tale

re: #238 zombie

I just scanned the comments and the Kidz are begging him to take the post down. What an ass.

re: #231 Inquisitive

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How or who do I report a number to who keeps calling me. Have been receiving calls for months---have tried the pressing 2 to be removed and have even pressed the 1 to talk to someone. Each time I press the 1 and a person comes on as soon as I say place on do not ---they hang up. Whenever I try calling back, a recording says the # is out of service.

step 1) buy a whistle
step 2) next time they call, press 1 to talk to someone, when they get on the line, use the device from step 1

re: #211 loppyd,

You shouldn't make fun of Dumbo. It's not nice to point out something as plain as the ears on his head :-)

I learned Charnel House from reading comics like House of Darkness in the 1970's.

Rush said yesterday that "Recount" had the lowest viewership of any HBO movie in history. Funny.

#223 Nevergiveup

re: #216 Killgore Trout

I was in the area until about '86 and it was still Darkie. When did they change it?

I am a Dentist and I have never heard of either? I guess I should get out more.

You're kidding! You really do need to get out more. I simply can't believe that as a dentist you've never even heard of the world's most famous toothpaste brand!

I actually have a tube of Darkie toothpaste I kept as a souvenir from Hong Kong.

BTW, I think it's still called Darkie in China. Only the overseas version had the name changed.

re: #218 zombie

"charnel house," "oeuvre" -- I've got to tone down the vocabulary to knuckledragger level so everyone here can understand!

Let me put them through the Republicanator^®:

charnel house - That there stinky barn wheres boy-cows meet they maker.
oeuvre - All the stuff I done created.

We is not worthy!

re: #238 zombie

Drawing attention to this fact only serves to remind the country once again of the suffering McCain endured for his fellow men and for us.

...at the hands of communists.

They also don't like people to be reminded that communists are real and evil.

re: #237 loppyd

We have a dentist in the house?

So just how bad is it that a crown fell off a molar about 6 weeks ago and I haven't gotten it fixed yet?

Well sounds like it doesn't hurt you so I am assuming that The tooth must have had Root Canal Therapy, but yeah, If I were you I'd be getting myself to a Dentist. Oh and don't forget your check book.

re: #246 paxnhymn

Rush said yesterday that "Recount" had the lowest viewership of any HBO movie in history. Funny.

Sounds like Recount won't be getting a rerun.

re: #246 paxnhymn

Rush said yesterday that "Recount" had the lowest viewership of any HBO movie in history. Funny.

Are you sure of that? I demand a....

re: #230 loppyd

What this means is that everyone in Canada now has fundamental freedoms, provided they’re not in conflict with whatever specious definition of “human rights” the CHRC chooses to apply.

That is very frightening.

Reminds me; I had a conversation with a Dutch lawyer once, who mentioned that the Dutch constitution outlaws "discrimination"... period. I pointed out that "discriminate" simply means "to choose"... so in theory, say, when Dutch airline KLM is hiring pilots but "discriminates" against people who don't have a pilot's license, isn't it violating the constitution? Oh, come on, she said, there's a principle of reasonableness in the law, and all our judges understand that.

She was perfectly comfortable with the idea that practically every human action would be putatively illegal, but we'd rely on the good judgment of the bench to decide when it's okay.

GOD BLESS AMERICA, is all I can say.

re: #224 coquimbojoe

About 1990-early 91.

I got a tube of Darkie in China in '96, and a friend brought back a tube she got in '04. It's still around, I swear.

re: #251 Peacekeeper

Sounds like Recount won't be getting a rerun.

I missed it. Did Chad get his girlfriend pregnant?

re: #250 Nevergiveup

Well sounds like it doesn't hurt you so I am assuming that The tooth must have had Root Canal Therapy, but yeah, If I were you I'd be getting myself to a Dentist. Oh and don't forget your check book.

So your nic applies to insurance discounts then?

:-D

re: #226 Kosh's Shadow

Some of us understand. I mean, "charnel house" is used a lot by Lovecraft...

In case it wasn't obvious:

/SARC

re: #255 jcm

apparently she's on The Pill.

The truly Kafka-esque part of this Human Rights Tribunal Inquisition is that no matter how much he and Maclean's demolish the Muslim Students Association's case, they WILL be found guilty. It is a foregone conclusion.

In fact, that may be a good thing:

...according to Andrew Coyne of Maclean’s they’re hoping to lose the case in Vancouver this week so they can bring it to a real court of law, and possibly set a precedent that could be the beginning of the end of Canadian “human rights” tribunals. Here’s hoping.

Yes, here's hoping.

re: #255 jcm

I missed it. Did Chad get his girlfriend pregnant?

Yes, but it was a miscarriage of Justine?

re: #235 Silhouette

But tell us, what's an ocicat?

Who was that snarky moonbat, does anyone recall? He owned an ocicat and sneered that (people who disagree with his politics) are so dumb they probably never heard of one.

James Wolcott.
ass hole

re: #241 redstateredneck

Racism Not Part of Tar Baby Tale

As your link itself points out, while the origin of the phrase was not really intended as racist, it "evolved" into a racist slur. And the "grinning pickaninny" cariacature on the sign left little doubt in this case as to what the restaurant owner was thinking.

re: #256 paxnhymn

So your nic applies to insurance discounts then?

:-D

Well for Lizards of course. The discount is directly related to how far you have to travel to sample my services.

re: #258 Peacekeeper

I've been to Egypt, I've been in actual Charnel Houses. Patchouli stinks much worse.

re: #196 Stringart

The decisions of the HRC are final (cannot appeal an HRC decision through the Tribunals or commissions). What Steyn and Ezra Levant want to do (as you note) is to get to a real courtroom. Ezra Levant has also noted (this is with respect to "oversight"), Alberta's HRC is accountable to -- wait for it -- the Culture and Community Spirit minister -- not to the provincial justice minister...

re: #240 Occasional Reader

Hey, don't sell us short, zombie. The Charnel House of Parma, by Stendhal... we know what's what!

I WAS KIDDING!

re: #258 Peacekeeper

apparently she's on The Pill.

re: #260 song_and_dance_man

You mean the one with the cute dimples?

re: #261 Nevergiveup

Yes, but it was a miscarriage of Justine?

re: #263 song_and_dance_man

I heard she left him hanging.

You all never fail!

Perfect start to a lunch break.
:-)

re: #257 zombie

In case it wasn't obvious:

/SARC

Anyway, if you really want to sound erudite, use hecatomb instead of charnel house.