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Obama Throws Jerusalem Under the Bus

Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 6:59:28 pm PDT

Barack Obama’s flip-flops are getting closer together; now he’s “clarifying” points he made just a day ago: Obama clarifies united J’lem comment.

Presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama did not rule out Palestinian sovereignty over parts of Jerusalem when he called for Israel’s capital to remain “undivided,” his campaign told The Jerusalem Post Thursday.

Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama addresses AIPAC Policy Conference 2008, Wednesday.

“Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided,” Obama declared Wednesday, to rousing applause from the 7,000-plus attendees at the American Israel Public Affairs Committee policy conference.

But a campaign adviser clarified Thursday that Obama believes “Jerusalem is a final status issue, which means it has to be negotiated between the two parties” as part of “an agreement that they both can live with.”

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1 VegasRick  6/05/08 7:00:43 pm reply quote

“Jerusalem is a final status issue, which means it has to be negotiated between the two parties” as part of “an agreement that they both can live with.”

Riiiigghhtt.

2 phoenixgirl  6/05/08 7:00:56 pm reply quote

omg

3 cincinnati_kid37  6/05/08 7:01:21 pm reply quote

He's a moron, and takes all side of any issue. Just like J Kerry. I wonder if enough people will see it or care.

4 Nevergiveup  6/05/08 7:01:21 pm reply quote

"Loose lips sink ships"

5 markx  6/05/08 7:01:44 pm reply quote

Waffles, I smell waffles.

6 blue_like_jazz  6/05/08 7:02:25 pm reply quote

"surprise, surprise, surprise!"

//channelling gomer pyle


NOT!

what an assclown.

7 Killgore Trout  6/05/08 7:02:35 pm reply quote

Jerusalem goes under the bus.

8 markx  6/05/08 7:03:19 pm reply quote

re: #7 Killgore Trout

Jerusalem goes under the bus.

There ain't no bus that big.

9 Occasional Reader  6/05/08 7:03:20 pm reply quote

Gosh, it's almost as if he says whatever comes to mind the please the audience that happens to be standing right in front of him.

But that couldn't be it... I mean, he's OBAMA, fer chrissake. It must somehow be OUR fault.

10 ctrlL  6/05/08 7:03:23 pm reply quote

“an agreement that they both can live with.”

There is a key word here ...... guess which one?

11 WriterMom  6/05/08 7:03:29 pm reply quote

re: #7 Killgore Trout

That's exactly how I posted it down below: Obama Throws Jerusalem Under the Bus.

12 savage_nation[deleted]  6/05/08 7:03:42 pm
13 rusty_armor  6/05/08 7:03:54 pm reply quote

... so much for his rabble rousing speech to AIPAC ... on to the next constituency with a tailor made message for them ...

And the people like it so.

14 Killgore Trout  6/05/08 7:03:54 pm reply quote

It's not a big bus but there's a lot of stuff under it.

15 Killgore Trout  6/05/08 7:04:08 pm reply quote

re: #11 WriterMom

GMTA!

16 WriterMom  6/05/08 7:04:26 pm reply quote

re: #9 Occasional Reader

Don't go talkin' crazy now, ya hear?

17 ploome hineni  6/05/08 7:04:27 pm reply quote

well, his lips are moving, he must be lying

............new Law and Order reruns

no more obamination for me

/spit

18 ccrnyc  6/05/08 7:04:34 pm reply quote

I just thought he got Jerusalem confused with one of the other 57 states.

19 The Shadow Do  6/05/08 7:04:54 pm reply quote

Just let him eat his effing waffle, will you?

20 BignJames  6/05/08 7:04:56 pm reply quote

re: #14 Killgore Trout

It's not a big bus but there's a lot of stuff under it.

Lift kit.

21 WriterMom  6/05/08 7:05:07 pm reply quote

re: #14 Killgore Trout

It's not a big bus, but it's got plenty of seating underneath.

22 Gang of One[deleted]  6/05/08 7:05:12 pm
23 MandyManners  6/05/08 7:05:46 pm reply quote
it has to be negotiated between the two parties

Pardon my ignorance but, isn't that the way it should be? Why involve a third party? However, that assumes that it is up to negotiation by either side, and from what I've seen, it's not.

24 Maine's Michael  6/05/08 7:06:17 pm reply quote

He's gonna 'clarify' the Jews right into the Mediterranean sea.

25 lawhawk  6/05/08 7:06:22 pm reply quote

He's most definitely thrown Jerusalem under the bus, and it's getting pretty crowded under there, as AIPAC bought that speech hook, line, and applause.

26 secsailor  6/05/08 7:06:44 pm reply quote

re: #18 ccrnyc

I just thought he got Jerusalem confused with one of the other 57 states.


58. You forgot Alaska and Hawaii...

27 Spetiam  6/05/08 7:06:45 pm reply quote

I wouldn't categorize this as a flip-flop, rather... it's just a bold-faced pandering lie he told to AIPAC.

28 DesertSage  6/05/08 7:06:46 pm reply quote
But a campaign adviser clarified Thursday that Obama believes “Jerusalem is a final status issue, which means it has to be negotiated between the two parties” as part of “an agreement that they both can live with.”

Is Obama going to consult with George Galloway on this one?

29 MarkX[deleted]  6/05/08 7:06:47 pm
30 HelloDare  6/05/08 7:07:01 pm reply quote

Transmutation. How messianic.

31 No Dhummi  6/05/08 7:07:40 pm reply quote

"Obama’s flip-flops are getting closer together"

It's official. Obama's FLOP rate is now faster than NASA's super-computers. His indonesia "public school" teachers always said he was good at math!

32 Occasional Reader  6/05/08 7:07:46 pm reply quote

Now, frankly... if he had said "to be negotiated" TO BEGIN WITH, it would have been hard to fault him, seeing as Olmerde is talking about it, too.

But the fact that he, what... ad-libbed? just didn't give a shit?... on this incredibly important and sensitive topic, is TRULY frightening.

33 offendi  6/05/08 7:07:51 pm reply quote

It will all get straightened out of course when he appoints Pat Buchanan ambassador to Israel, Jimmy Carter the ambassador to the UN, and Jeremiah Wright the Secretary of State.

Change !

34 MarkX  6/05/08 7:07:52 pm reply quote

re: #28 DesertSage

Is Obama going to consult with George Galloway on this one?

Why? They are already on the same page.

35 Nevergiveup  6/05/08 7:07:54 pm reply quote

All kidding aside, this is so infuriating to me. Jerusalem is my favorite city. I spent 2 summers there as an exchange student. I know Jerusalem better than most of my Israeli friends. Now when I am in Israel I don't get there as often as I would like. It just pains me to hear an Idiot like Obama even talking about it.

36 Opinionated  6/05/08 7:07:57 pm reply quote

So fast they haven't even yet stopped clapping at AIPAC and while my contemporaneous post insisting he was lying is still fresh.

37 kingronjo  6/05/08 7:08:17 pm reply quote

If he gets elected,

Be afraid Israel,

be very afraid.

38 yenta-fada  6/05/08 7:08:18 pm reply quote

Are liberal Jews going to figure out that showing up to meetings with Obama will get them as far as showing up to meetings with Ahmedinnerjacket?

39 lawhawk  6/05/08 7:08:33 pm reply quote

re: #23 MandyManners

The official US position is that the status of Jerusalem is to be decided between the parties.

Israel has provided far more access to the religious sites than the Arabs ever did and respects the holy sites far more than the Jordanians had done, but Israel restricts Jews from going to the Temple Mount, despite this being the holiest spot on the planet for Jews.

40 NJDhockeyfan  6/05/08 7:08:38 pm reply quote

Jerusalem is not the city he once knew.

41 Gjergj Skënderbeu  6/05/08 7:08:42 pm reply quote

Too bad "back-peddling" isn't an Olympic event, because Barrack could win gold.

42 Alouette  6/05/08 7:08:46 pm reply quote

"I have become all things to all men, that I might by all means, at all costs and in any and every way, get their votes."--Book of Obama

43 Gang of One  6/05/08 7:08:49 pm reply quote

re: #25 lawhawk

Don't you think AIPAC has heard enough pandering BS to know what's up?
Only the most idiotarian ReformJew® will give this any weight.

44 Widow'smight  6/05/08 7:09:11 pm reply quote

He's talking about the New Jerusalem, He's gonna change it to have Streets of Gold (He is the Messiah ya know).

45 Maine's Michael  6/05/08 7:09:23 pm reply quote

Yes, it is incredible who much they loved him at AIPAC.

They wanted to believe him.

Were such suckers for anyone who shows us a little kindness and respect.

46 Opinionated  6/05/08 7:09:53 pm reply quote

Remember, they are not flip flops. They are change you can believe in.

47 HelloDare  6/05/08 7:10:02 pm reply quote

Biggest Flip-Flop still to come. Obama will be white by November.

48 The Shadow Do  6/05/08 7:10:12 pm reply quote

Obama really is an idiot. Makes it up on the fly. Confident he can get away with it. Keep it up, Obama. Keep it up.

49 MarkX  6/05/08 7:10:21 pm reply quote

re: #42 Alouette

"I can fool all the people, all the time." --Book of Obama

50 saberry0530  6/05/08 7:10:30 pm reply quote

Exactly how big is that damned bus anyway? IF its' that bug it must be a huge diesel guzzler.

51 TIgger  6/05/08 7:10:32 pm reply quote

Anyone who by "undivided" can mean "undivided by barbed wire" is a master of perfidy.
And anyone who claims he doesn't rule out the idea of a single city being the capital of two states of which one wants to annihilate the other is a raving moron. That someone even can conceive of such an idea is more than mind-boggling.

The awful thing is, my entire congregation of leftist Jews won't care. Not that this will be reported in the US media.
And to crown all of this, it was not even O. himself who thought of this way out, but an adviser. The more I think, the more I am sure he is plain stupid and arrogant, to say nothing of being a racist and an antisemitic liar.

52 mikeinmd  6/05/08 7:10:38 pm reply quote

Relax....it's enTrailways.

53 Gang of One  6/05/08 7:11:00 pm reply quote

Let me put it this way: Obama does not serve anything good.

54 lawhawk  6/05/08 7:11:02 pm reply quote

re: #43 Gang of One

He's got a D after his name. Often, that's more than sufficient to get their vote, despite the fact that Democrats will more frequently throw Israel to the wolves.

55 DesertSage  6/05/08 7:11:12 pm reply quote

You know, Obama may be throwing Israel under the bus...

....but he does it so eloquently a tingle runs up Chris Matthews leg.

56 VegasRick  6/05/08 7:11:29 pm reply quote

re: #37 kingronjo

If he gets elected,

Be afraid Israel,

be very afraid.

I can't wait to see him do the "fist - bump" with nasralla.

57 saberry0530  6/05/08 7:11:46 pm reply quote

re: #50 saberry0530

Bug=big
PIMF

58 offendi  6/05/08 7:11:50 pm reply quote

Unfortunately John McCain believes the Palestinians want peace too.

59 lawhawk  6/05/08 7:12:19 pm reply quote

re: #43 Gang of One

Oh, and the UN wants to revoke observer status for the Reform Jews for daring to utter the Hamas Charter and its repeated calls for jihad and destruction of Israel.

60 Opinionated  6/05/08 7:12:23 pm reply quote

re: #45 Maine's Michael

Yes, it is incredible who much they loved him at AIPAC.

They wanted to believe him.

Were such suckers for anyone who shows us a little kindness and respect.

Defining pro Israel down.

For many, anyone who doesn't want to join Ahmadinejad in launching nukes at Israel is considered pro Israel.

61 Maine's Michael  6/05/08 7:12:24 pm reply quote

Hey, at least he's got white teeth, right?

62 profitsbeard  6/05/08 7:12:40 pm reply quote

Can't I just finish my Al-Aqsa?

63 Nevergiveup  6/05/08 7:12:50 pm reply quote

re: #58 offendi

Unfortunately John McCain believes the Palestinians want peace too.

Maybe, but I bet he could find Israel on map.

64 Gjergj Skënderbeu  6/05/08 7:12:52 pm reply quote

And "Flip-Flopping" as well; Barry could win gold in that event too were it part of Olympic competition.

65 Kosh's Shadow  6/05/08 7:13:12 pm reply quote

How long before Obama contradicts himself in the same speech?

I figure he'll certainly do so in any real debate with McCain.

All I can say is Obama makes me want to take action - and give McCain another campaign contribution. Or maybe the RNC this time.

66 buzzsawmonkey  6/05/08 7:13:30 pm reply quote

I have been saying all day that I am sure Obama is committed to an undivided Jerusalem--under Arab rule.

The key word is his call for a "contiguous Palestinian state."

"Contiguous" does not mean a land bridge; it does not mean a highway; it does not mean a tunnel. "Contiguous" means one land mass.

There are only two ways that a "Palestinian" state West of the Jordan--the second "Palestinian" state--can be made "contiguous": by giving Gaza to the Israelis now that the "Palestinians" have returned it to a desert state, and carving a corresponding piece out of Israel that is contiguous with the West Bank; or by making Israel uncontiguous.

67 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  6/05/08 7:13:31 pm
68 The Shadow Do  6/05/08 7:13:43 pm reply quote

Bill Parcells advice to his `star' players: "Don't eat the cheese".

69 coquimbojoe  6/05/08 7:13:55 pm reply quote

re: #5 markx

Waffles, I smell waffles.

Craptacular waffles.

70 laZardo  6/05/08 7:14:18 pm reply quote

He threw it under Bus 19.

71 galloping granny  6/05/08 7:14:36 pm reply quote

The question is not whether Jerusalem will remain the undivided capital of Israel, the question is whether there will be any Jews left to live there. Obama seems to be a past master at telling folks what he thinks they want to hear. . . . . . . . I wonder what he promised the "palestinians" he has supported so long. You know, the ones who have been running the call bank for him from Gaza for every primary.

72 DesertSage  6/05/08 7:14:57 pm reply quote

re: #58 offendi

Unfortunately John McCain believes the Palestinians want peace too.

I trust McCain a lot more then I would ever trust Obama when it comes to Israel.

73 laZardo  6/05/08 7:15:11 pm reply quote

re: #66 buzzsawmonkey

There are only two ways that a "Palestinian" state West of the Jordan--the second "Palestinian" state--can be made "contiguous": by giving Gaza to the Israelis now that the "Palestinians" have returned it to a desert state, and carving a corresponding piece out of Israel that is contiguous with the West Bank; or by making Israel uncontiguous.

The only piece that comes to mind to be carved in exchange for Gaza is Golan.

74 MarkX  6/05/08 7:15:14 pm reply quote

re: #63 Nevergiveup

Maybe, but I bet he could find Israel on map.

I think so.

75 Oh no...Sand People!  6/05/08 7:15:17 pm reply quote

"I am saddened. This isn't the Israel I knew."

/

76 offendi  6/05/08 7:15:32 pm reply quote

re: #45 Maine's Michael

Yes, it is incredible who much they loved him at AIPAC.

They wanted to believe him.

Were such suckers for anyone who shows us a little kindness and respect.

No American Jews that I have spoken with are voting for Obama this year. They are all democrats who would have voted for Hillary. A hold-the-nose and vote for McCain thing, like many non-Jewish republicans.

77 mikeinmd  6/05/08 7:15:38 pm reply quote

"I was for Jerusalem, before I was half against it."

I'm not surprised. When has his lordship ever had a parallel position with us. OK, he wants the Clintons gone. Other than that.

78 freedomplow  6/05/08 7:15:46 pm reply quote

Obama caves under Palestinian pressure

Facing criticism from Palestinians, Sen. Barack Obama acknowledged today that the status of Jerusalem will need to be negotiated in future peace talks, amending a statement earlier in the week that Jerusalem "must remain undivided."

79 Nevergiveup  6/05/08 7:15:49 pm reply quote

re: #70 laZardo

He threw it under Bus 19.

Bus 19 go to Hebrew U ?

80 lawhawk  6/05/08 7:15:50 pm reply quote

re: #70 laZardo

I think I have seen that bus before.

81 calcajun  6/05/08 7:15:52 pm reply quote

Get the man some syrup for his waffles!

82 Gang of One  6/05/08 7:16:33 pm reply quote

My apologies, Charles. Perhaps I have crossed a line with previous comments. My Zen did not kick in. Obama, and nay, most if not all of the Democratics are following this Pied Piper. Please accept my apologies for my apoplexy.

83 jcm  6/05/08 7:16:41 pm reply quote

The solution is simply.
It's the execution that's difficult

OBAMA UNDER THE BUS IN NOV!

84 angst  6/05/08 7:16:46 pm reply quote

Holy crap. When I saw this, I thought "Charles has it wrong." (Silly me, I know.)

Because the first time I saw the story it was linked from Drudge to Breitbart, which completely whitewashed BO's stand on Jerusalem.. No mention of ANY kind of sovereignity other than Israel's.

So not only is it BO's dissembling as usual, it's an obvious case of the MSM covering up said dissembling. Good God. No one is ever going to know the truth about BO.

We're freakin' doomed.

85 rorschach  6/05/08 7:16:47 pm reply quote

The real travesty here is the surprising number of otherwise intelligent Americans who actually believe that obama is an inspiration.

They can't see the waffles for the trees.

86 wolfie  6/05/08 7:16:52 pm reply quote

re: #58 offendi

Unfortunately John McCain believes the Palestinians want peace too.

Maybe.
OTOH, John McCain has the advantage of knowing that evil really exists. He has seen it up close and personal.

87 Ojoe  6/05/08 7:17:21 pm reply quote

For someone who has said we shouldn't be able to eat all we want, Obama sure has a mouth full of meal.

88 profitsbeard  6/05/08 7:17:32 pm reply quote

CHANGE FLIP you can BELIEVE FLOP in.

Obama bumper car sticker.

89 EE  6/05/08 7:17:32 pm reply quote

I knew that that promise would not have a long lifetime. I realized that as president, he would disavow it. But I didn't think that its lifetime would be only 1 day. Only 1 day!

Obama the promise-maker goes around making all sorts of promises to every group that he meets with, without any regard to whether those promises will be kept. The safest thing is not to believe any promise that he makes.

His words have no connection to truth and no connection to reality.

That's why he has been able to so easily present himself as a messiah. The troubling thing for me is not that there are such hucksters around, but that there are a good number of people who actually believe his fabrications. There are, among the Obamamaniacs, the young, who are gullible and who are prone to wishful thinking, and who are prone to taking reckless gambles in supporting a huckster and con artist. But there are lots of adults who are not so young who also fall for his line of baloney. How people can be so gullible is remarkable. P. T. Barnum understood this, and said that there is a sucker born every minute.

90 offendi  6/05/08 7:17:46 pm reply quote

re: #72 DesertSage

I trust McCain a lot more then I would ever trust Obama when it comes to Israel.

Until he falls under the State Department's spell like W. Rice was one of our worst Secretary of States, sorry to say.

91 DesertSage  6/05/08 7:17:55 pm reply quote

Lakers +5
Halftime

92 HelloDare  6/05/08 7:18:47 pm reply quote

He must have found out that Israel is full of those pesky Jews. /

93 El Anti-Idiotario  6/05/08 7:19:01 pm reply quote

Not surprised. But even less surprised that many in the "leadership" of the Jewish community, the Tikkun Olam (Heal the world) crowd, keep bankrolling Barry Hussein- no questions asked.

94 TIgger  6/05/08 7:19:02 pm reply quote

Even if he hadn't "clarified" on this, GWB promised to move our Embassy to Jerusalem and never did and never will. And in my opinion, GWB is not a bad person at all. Our own State Dept doesn't recognize Jerusalem Israel as a place of birth. And it is headed by the woman whom many Conservatives claim they would vote in for President. What I mean is, everyone knows what you have to tell the Jews to get elected, so they say it, and then do exactly the opposite. And just what is anyone going to do about it? About this whole big game of pretending as if the Arabs want anything even an iota less than the total destruction of Israel. The entire world is playing it.

95 FightingBack  6/05/08 7:19:06 pm reply quote

Does AIPAC have a mailing list? Someone could email them the news.

96 JammieWearingFool  6/05/08 7:19:21 pm reply quote

re: #91 DesertSage

Lakers +5
Halftime

Fear and loathing in Boston. Awfully quiet there.

Heh.

97 DesertSage  6/05/08 7:19:27 pm reply quote

re: #90 offendi

Until he falls under the State Department's spell like W. Rice was one of our worst Secretary of States, sorry to say.

You've got to be kidding. Has the name Madeline Albright slipped your mind?

98 calcajun  6/05/08 7:19:31 pm reply quote

According to FOX, BHO and Hillary are in a secret meeting/tryst (Eww) right now. She's making her play for the VP spot. He needs to show some muscle (another Eww) and tell her what her help is really worth.

Ah, the fun never ends.

100 J.S.  6/05/08 7:19:51 pm reply quote

The re-making of the statement is being done by an "advisor" to the campaign -- not by Obama. Tonight during a CNN interview between Obama and Candy Crowley, she asked Obama about the issue of Jerusalem, and Obama reaffirmed his stance of One, Undivided Jerusalem under Jewish sovereignty.

101 No Dhummi  6/05/08 7:19:59 pm reply quote

Don't you now wish Clinton had won? Even if you don't like her, you have to admit that her strong, unwavering support of Israel and anti-idiotarian foreign policy is worlds better than what the Obamessiah is offering. I am seriously afraid that Obama may win against McCain, whereas, if McCain lost to Clinton, it wouldn't raise the same fears in me.

How does everyone here feel the election will turn out? Are you afraid that Obama may win like I am? Or are you confident that, eventually, people will see him for what he really is and he has little chance?

102 MarkX  6/05/08 7:20:24 pm reply quote

re: #90 offendi

Until he falls under the State Department's spell like W. Rice was one of our worst Secretary of States, sorry to say.

Well, Rice isn't as bad as Madeleine Not-so-bright. How soon we forget.

103 JammieWearingFool  6/05/08 7:20:54 pm reply quote
But a campaign adviser clarified Thursday that Obama believes “Jerusalem is a final status issue, which means it has to be negotiated between the two parties” as part of “an agreement that they both can live with.”

Yeah, just elect The Wizard of Uhhhs. We'll work out the details later.

I hope the mesmerized Jewish population out there is paying attention.

Obama is your enemy.

104 galloping granny  6/05/08 7:20:55 pm reply quote

re: #97 DesertSage

You've got to be kidding. Has the name Madeline Albright slipped your mind?

He didn't say Condi was THE worst - only one of them. You can't dispute that.

105 Maine's Michael  6/05/08 7:21:13 pm reply quote

re: #89 EE

He is an attractive yong man with an excllent speaking voice and good speach making skills.

He is charismatic.

Jim Jones had people drinking cyanide laced kool-aid, and he had less charisma than Obama.

It is pure personality cult.

And Bush's royal fuck ups have torpedoed the republican party.

It's a perfect storm.

Will America come to its senses for November?

106 Lively  6/05/08 7:21:13 pm reply quote

re: #98 calcajun

According to FOX, BHO and Hillary are in a secret meeting/tryst (Eww) right now. She's making her play for the VP spot. He needs to show some muscle (another Eww) and tell her what her help is really worth.

Ah, the fun never ends.

There's no way he's gonna offer her and Bill VP.

107 JeremyR  6/05/08 7:21:20 pm reply quote

re: #5 markx

Waffles, I smell waffles.

Those waffles stink.

108 The Shadow Do  6/05/08 7:21:26 pm reply quote

re: #90 offendi

Until he falls under the State Department's spell like W. Rice was one of our worst Secretary of States, sorry to say.

I don't see McCain taking any advice from State. None. He is trained to command and has no reservation with using that authority, unlike a certain CIC we know. McCain may well be just what it takes to clean that infestation out.

109 buzzsawmonkey  6/05/08 7:21:47 pm reply quote

re: #73 laZardo

The only piece that comes to mind to be carved in exchange for Gaza is Golan.

Not so; Jerusalem and its environs, undivided, could be cut out of Israel in this scenario. It and the land around it jut into the West Bank. It would be perfectly consistent with the sort of doubletalk we are hearing.

Never happen, you say? Don't be silly. The current Israeli government has no problem uprooting Jews from their homes, as the evacuation of Gaza showed. There will be all sorts of "international" guarantees, just like there were in 1948--and just as worthless.

The Golan, which is not contiguous with the West Bank, will of course be given to Syria, along with bushels of money. And Israel will get some pretty paper promises.

110 Llanite  6/05/08 7:21:48 pm reply quote

1. Over-eager willingness to please whomever he's with.
2. His easy, glib lies - even stuff that can't possibly be true.
3. His lack of discernment with regard to the company he keeps.

I wonder if much of this stems from the lack of a father figure in his life?

Oh, yeah, and 'why can't I just finish my Jerusalem waffle in peace?'

111 offendi  6/05/08 7:22:28 pm reply quote

re: #97 DesertSage

You've got to be kidding. Has the name Madeline Albright slipped your mind?

She too is on the list.

112 Inquisitive  6/05/08 7:22:39 pm reply quote

re: #37 kingronjo

If he gets elected,

Be afraid Israel,

be very afraid.


If he gets elected
Be afraid Everbody
Be very Afraid

113 Nevergiveup  6/05/08 7:22:45 pm reply quote

I lost my passport in Asdod once and I had to get a new one while i was in Israel. I went to the Consulate in Jerusalem. So for a few years my passport was stamped "Issued in East Jerusalem". I got stopped at security all the time.

114 wolfie  6/05/08 7:22:58 pm reply quote

re: #78 freedomplow

115 cajunbelle  6/05/08 7:23:10 pm reply quote

BTW, here is what Obama said about the elusive Whitey video:

We have seen this before. There is dirt and lies that are circulated in emails and they pump them out long enough until finally you, a mainstream reporter, asks me about it,” Obama said to the McClatchy reporter during a press conference aboard his campaign plane. “That gives legs to the story. If somebody has evidence that myself or Michelle or anybody has said something inappropriate, let them do it.”

Asked whether he knew it not to be true, Obama said he had answered the question.

Hmm...let them do it?

116 DesertSage  6/05/08 7:23:13 pm reply quote

re: #104 galloping granny

He didn't say Condi was THE worst - only one of them. You can't dispute that.

I don't even think she was one of the worst. Remember, the second intifada happened on Albright's watch.

117 calcajun  6/05/08 7:23:16 pm reply quote

re: #106 Lively

I never said he would. Her thighness is probably demanding it, or she's going to torpedo him in the general election.

118 Maine's Michael  6/05/08 7:23:17 pm reply quote