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Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 3:17:22 am PDT
When neither their property nor their honor is touched, the majority of men live content.
— Niccolo Machiavelli
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redc1c4 Fri, Jun 6, 2008 3:25:29am |
re: #3 littleoldlady
And the beer...
Good day, ALL!™
good day, bad day, it's all the same day man...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jun 6, 2008 3:28:43am |
You know, RR was The Great Communicator.
We'll end up calling Obama The Great Clarifier.
Morning kiddie poos!
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Killian Bundy Fri, Jun 6, 2008 3:31:17am |
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed said Thursday that he would welcome the death penalty
/death by freefall, give him a few minutes to think about it
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Hengineer Fri, Jun 6, 2008 3:33:08am |
re: #9 BignJames
Push him off...say the Sears Tower.
Nah, how about the new "Islam tallest building in world"
aka Burj Dubai.
push him off that.
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Neo Con since 9-11 Fri, Jun 6, 2008 3:33:27am |
night all. My cat, Bob, insists I get a couple hours sleep so I can safely drive my bobcat tomorrow so I can bring home tuna.
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redc1c4 Fri, Jun 6, 2008 3:33:35am |
re: #5 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You know, RR was The Great Communicator.
We'll end up calling Obama The Great Clarifier.
Morning kiddie poos!
i'm thinking "Lying POS" will roll of the tongue easier and with less retching... %-)
/and be more accurate too!
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Hengineer Fri, Jun 6, 2008 3:34:19am |
re: #11 Neo Con since 9-11
night all. My cat, Bob, insists I get a couple hours sleep so I can safely drive my bobcat tomorrow so I can bring home tuna.
Yet Teach a cat to fish...
/snicker @ the thought of teaching a cat anything...
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redc1c4 Fri, Jun 6, 2008 3:36:07am |
re: #7 Killian Bundy
/death by freefall, give him a few minutes to think about it
i like my idea from a few threads back: death by nursing home...
/massive organ failure, caused by sepsis, induced by MRSA from untreated bed sores and an indwelling catheter.
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redc1c4 Fri, Jun 6, 2008 3:36:48am |
re: #13 Hengineer
Yet Teach a cat to fish...
/snicker @ the thought of teaching a cat anything...
they teach us.
/but we never learn %-)
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Lucius Septimius Fri, Jun 6, 2008 3:36:50am |
Mornin' all. Another hot day in store -- low 90s.
Watched "Tora, Tora, Tora" with the boys last night. I'd forgotten how good it is.
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Hengineer Fri, Jun 6, 2008 3:37:39am |
re: #16 Lucius Septimius
Mornin' all. Another hot day in store -- low 90s.
Watched "Tora, Tora, Tora" with the boys last night. I'd forgotten how good it is.
I'm afraid we've woken a sleeping giant.
/nuff said
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jun 6, 2008 3:37:48am |
re: #10 Hengineer
Nah, how about the new "Islam tallest building in world"
aka Burj Dubai.push him off that.
Hell no.
Push him off a twelve foot wall; then march him back up to the top of the wall.
Push him off again. "Oh he sprained an ankle".
March him back up; push him off again, "Oh, he broke a wrist."
March him back up, etc.
Tonight we're gonna party like its 799.
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Hengineer Fri, Jun 6, 2008 3:38:35am |
re: #18 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Hell no.
Push him off a twelve foot wall; then march him back up to the top of the wall.
Push him off again. "Oh he sprained an ankle".
March him back up; push him off again, "Oh, he broke a wrist."
March him back up, etc.Tonight we're gonna party like its 799.
We going to do that, might as well have an old-fashioned stoning...
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redc1c4 Fri, Jun 6, 2008 3:43:14am |
re: #19 Hengineer
We going to do that, might as well have an old-fashioned stoning...
feed him nothing but MRE's and 2 canteens of water a day.
/he'll explode
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jun 6, 2008 3:43:40am |
re: #19 Hengineer
We going to do that, might as well have an old-fashioned stoning...
"I got a rock."
Charlie Brown (Trick or Treating with friends on Halloween special)
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jun 6, 2008 3:44:38am |
re: #19 Hengineer
Too cruel? To barbaric? Too Muslim?
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Hengineer Fri, Jun 6, 2008 3:45:43am |
re: #22 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Too cruel? To barbaric? Too Muslim?
Nah, feed him a soup, then later tell him that it was made from pork gravy...
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mikeinmd Fri, Jun 6, 2008 3:46:02am |
re: #7 Killian Bundy
/death by freefall, give him a few minutes to think about it
Could use him for target practice while he's falling. We can hit satellites, and there not much bigger than a womp rat.
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Lucius Septimius Fri, Jun 6, 2008 3:46:08am |
re: #17 Hengineer
/nuff said
I think the giant needs to wake up again. It's been snoozing for way too long.
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redc1c4 Fri, Jun 6, 2008 3:48:22am |
re: #21 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
"I got a rock."
Charlie Brown (Trick or Treating with friends on Halloween special)
how about we keelhaul the bastiges?
/get some w*rk out of Henniger %-)
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Dar ul Harbarian Fri, Jun 6, 2008 3:49:41am |
CHICAGO—As the 2008 presidential election draws closer, Democrat Barack Obama has reportedly been working tirelessly with his top political strategists to perfect his looking-off-into-the-future pose, which many believe is vital to the success of the Illinois senator's campaign.
When performed correctly, the pose involves Obama standing upright with his back arched and his chest thrust out, his shoulders positioned 1.3 feet apart and opened slightly at a 14-degree angle, and his eyes transfixed on a predetermined point between 500 and 600 yards away. Advisers say this creates the illusion that Obama is looking forward to a bright future, while the downturned corners of his lips indicate that he acknowledges the problems of the present.
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Buster Bunny Fri, Jun 6, 2008 3:50:26am |
Poor ol Machievelli
Nice guy .. pissed off some Italian stooge called Medici and he's had the reputation of a badass ever since.
Shows you .. good intentions and politics have been blurred for an awful long time.
/Bongiorno Bunny
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eon Fri, Jun 6, 2008 3:52:30am |
re: #22 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Too cruel? To barbaric? Too Muslim?
Morning, Lizards.
I'm sort of a traditionalist, here. If he wants to be "martyred", fine. I say we do it the traditional Islamic way, as depicted in Tom Clancy's The Sum Of All Fears. Namely, behead him in the town square, at noon, with a single stroke of a very sharp sword.
Then cremate the remains and scatter them to the winds.
As I understand it, this would mean that at best, he would arrive in Paradise looking rather like the Headless Horseman. More likely, he would arrive there looking more like something you would compost your flowers with. Either way, he will have no use for any virgins.
As for "martyrdom", again quoting from Clancy:
"Martyrs all have the same thing in common. They're dead."- Jack Ryan
cheers
eon
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Lucius Septimius Fri, Jun 6, 2008 3:52:48am |
re: #29 Buster Bunny
"Wicked Nick" is how he's referred to in our house; my Lovely Bride is a Machiavelli scholar, which means dinner time is always an adventure.
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yochanan Fri, Jun 6, 2008 3:53:11am |
[Link: www.suntimes.com...]
this is a puff piece but even it has info that is harmful to obama
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mikeinmd Fri, Jun 6, 2008 3:54:00am |
BTW, Google found time out of their busy schedule to celebrate Diego Velazquez...
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jun 6, 2008 3:54:17am |
re: #28 Dar ul Harbarian
It warms my heart to know Obama is concentrating on " National Security" issues.
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offendi Fri, Jun 6, 2008 3:54:45am |
The trial of that fat slob Sheik-ie is just what we need to remind the country that the election is not just about the price of gas.
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Render Fri, Jun 6, 2008 3:56:01am |
I'd prefer to keep the bastard locked away in solitary Supermax obscurity for the rest of his life with no possibility of parole.
NO
SUNLIGHT,
R
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jun 6, 2008 3:56:04am |
re: #32 yochanan
[Link: www.suntimes.com...]
this is a puff piece but even it has info that is harmful to obama
Your in Chicago right? Can't sleep? I'd be sleeping like a rock if my team were playing like the Cubs.
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offendi Fri, Jun 6, 2008 3:56:39am |
Grant his wish, but rub him down with pig fat before he goes.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jun 6, 2008 3:56:39am |
re: #35 offendi
How much weight did he gain in "Club Gitmo"?
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Hengineer Fri, Jun 6, 2008 3:57:37am |
re: #26 redc1c4
how about we keelhaul the bastiges?
/get some w*rk out of Henniger %-)
haven't seen that yet, but we could start it back up again.
we could hang him from a yardarm
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offendi Fri, Jun 6, 2008 3:58:08am |
re: #39 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
How much weight did he gain in "Club Gitmo"?
Just some water weight from the "boarding". Hopefully.
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LeftJustAintRight Fri, Jun 6, 2008 3:59:03am |
Listening to Quinn & Rose this morning
Quinn seems to think Hillary is not finished Hussein Obama
Because she only suspended her campaign and still controlls her delegates
Hmmm ?
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Fredlike Fri, Jun 6, 2008 3:59:07am |
Morning all, Hot Today, Hotter this weekend. Well at least I got my AC in the van fixed.
Been reading Liberal Fascism by Jonah.Goldberg (got it along with Moment of Truth by Michael Yon, also a good book). He really presents a good case for the existence of the Fascist left, I have not finished it yet so I don't think Barry is in it but lots of the things he says really fits the model. The amount of government control Wilson and Roosevelt put in place makes Bush seem like the good fairy. Roosevelt had a heavy thumb on the population well before WWII. One story was very informative, after they imposed price controls they convicted a tailor of pressing a suit for 35 cents instead of the required 40 cents, he got 7 months.
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Lucius Septimius Fri, Jun 6, 2008 3:59:43am |
re: #32 yochanan
[Link: www.suntimes.com...]
this is a puff piece but even it has info that is harmful to obama
Unfortunately the people caught up in the aura won't care. The average Obama supporter is so enamored of the image that they will not look to see the man behind it.
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Hengineer Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:00:24am |
re: #43 Fredlike
Morning all, Hot Today, Hotter this weekend. Well at least I got my AC in the van fixed.
Been reading Liberal Fascism by Jonah.Goldberg (got it along with Moment of Truth by Michael Yon, also a good book). He really presents a good case for the existence of the Fascist left, I have not finished it yet so I don't think Barry is in it but lots of the things he says really fits the model. The amount of government control Wilson and Roosevelt put in place makes Bush seem like the good fairy. Roosevelt had a heavy thumb on the population well before WWII. One story was very informative, after they imposed price controls they convicted a tailor of pressing a suit for 35 cents instead of the required 40 cents, he got 7 months.
There is just as much of a fascist right as a fascist left.
Granted we haven't had one in power here as much as say, Afghanistan, but the Taliban was VERY much a fascist right, as theocracies are.
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:00:50am |
re: #29 Buster Bunny
Poor ol Machievelli
Nice guy .. pissed off some Italian stooge called Medici and he's had the reputation of a badass ever since.
Shows you .. good intentions and politics have been blurred for an awful long time.
/Bongiorno Bunny
The Teacher:
A Riff on Machiavelli's The Prince,
Replacing Prince with Teacher, His with Her, State with Classroom, and Men with Students
By goddessoftheclassroom
I say that every Teacher should desire to be accounted merciful and not cruel. Nevertheless, she should be on her guard against the abuse of this quality of mercy. Cesare Borgia was reputed cruel, yet his cruelty restored Romagna, united it, and brought it to order and obedience; so that if we look at things in their true light, it will be seen that he was in reality far more merciful than the people of Florence, who, to avoid the imputation of cruelty, suffered Pistoja to be torn to pieces by factions.
A Teacher should therefore disregard the reproach of being thought cruel where it enables her to keep her students united and obedient. For she who quells disorder by a very few signal examples will in the end be more merciful than she who from too great leniency permits things to take their course and so to result in rapine and bloodshed; for these hurt the whole Classroom, whereas the severities of the Teacher injure individuals only.
And for a new Teacher, of all others, it is impossible to escape a name for cruelty, since new Classrooms are full of dangers. Wherefore Virgil, by the mouth of Dido, excuses the harshness of her reign on the plea that it was new, saying: A fate unkind, and newness in my reign Compel me this to guard a wide domain Nevertheless, the new Teacher should not be too ready of belief, nor too easily set in motion; not should she herself be the first to raise alarms; but should so temper prudence with kindliness that too great confidence in others shall not throw her off her guard, nor groundless distrust render her insupportable.
And here comes the question whether it is better to be loved rather than feared, or feared rather than loved. It might perhaps be answered that we should wish to be both; but since love and fear can hardly exist together, if we must choose between them, it is far safer to be feared than loved. For of students it may generally be affirmed that they are thankless, fickle, false, studious to avoid danger, greedy of gain, devoted to you while you are able to confer benefits upon them, and ready, as I said before, while danger is distant, to shed their blood, and sacrifice their property, their lives, and their children for you; but in the hour of need they turn against you.
The Teacher, therefore, who without otherwise securing herself builds wholly on their professions is undone. For the friendships which we buy with a price, and do not gain by greatness and nobility of character, though they may be fairly earned are not made good, but fail us when we have occasion to use them
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godfrey Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:00:53am |
Ah, a Friday morning. Good morning, lizards. Speaking of being contented with untouched property, it looks like Ireland might vote "no" on the Lisbon Treaty EU Constitution. "More taxes, less power" is the anti-EU message. Funny: they sound like the main planks of Obama's platform.
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yochanan Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:00:54am |
re: #37 Nevergiveup
Your in Chicago right? Can't sleep? I'd be sleeping like a rock if my team were playing like the Cubs.
i want the cubs to make it to the w.s. and then get beaten by the CHICAGO WHITE SOXS.
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Lucius Septimius Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:01:42am |
re: #48 yochanan
i want the cubs to make it to the w.s. and then get beaten by the CHICAGO WHITE SOXS.
Could have guessed that if you're a SunTimes reader.
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Hengineer Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:02:05am |
re: #47 godfrey
Ah, a Friday morning. Good morning, lizards. Speaking of being contented with untouched property, it looks like Ireland might vote "no" on the
Lisbon TreatyEU Constitution. "More taxes, less power" is the anti-EU message. Funny: they sound like the main planks of Obama's platform.
Everybody seems to want the benefits of taxation without having to pay for it.
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Lucius Septimius Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:02:22am |
re: #46 goddessoftheclassroom
Mornin' Goddess.
I've always thought I'd like to rewrite the Prince as a parenting manual. "Machiavellian Mommy" or some such.
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yochanan Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:03:02am |
[Link: www.chicagotribune.com...]
BLAGO will be tossed under the bus to help obama other wise some will go after obama for tony rezko
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Killian Bundy Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:04:26am |
re: #36 Render
I'd prefer to keep the bastard locked away in solitary Supermax obscurity for the rest of his life with no possibility of parole.
NO
SUNLIGHT,
R
/give him a roommate
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eon Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:04:49am |
re: #28 Dar ul Harbarian
We're working on the squinting
Gee, Clint Eastwood had that down cold forty years ago.
He could at least go for a Jimmy Stewart "stern but resolute" look, like in Mr. Smith Goes To Washington.
Of course, the main danger is that at some point, he'll lapse into the "upthrust arm and arched back while screaming about 'Czechoslovakia Israel is part of Minehead Gaza, already!'" look, sort of like Mr. Hilter.
/old Monty Python routines never die- they just look less and less fanciful
The problem with the Onion is, how do you parody people who, in real life, insist on being strange and expect you to pretend not to notice?
/oh, and make them President, too
cheers
eon
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Hengineer Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:05:13am |
re: #54 Killian Bundy
/give him a roommate
/good ol' boy from Texas who is in for hate crimes (preferably of the KKK variety)
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abolitionist Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:05:29am |
re: #43 Fredlike
... Roosevelt had a heavy thumb on the population well before WWII. One story was very informative, after they imposed price controls they convicted a tailor of pressing a suit for 35 cents instead of the required 40 cents, he got 7 months.
Somehow I had the notion price controls involved upper limits on prices. I can only imagine some prison warden put in a request for a taylor, and the requisition was fulfilled.
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godfrey Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:06:22am |
re: #51 Lucius Septimius
I always thought that if the Prince did all that Machiavelli says he should do, he would surely soon be found out and murdered. Was Machiavelli goading this on? His Discourses are all about republics and civic virtues ... was he really anti- Prince?
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:06:34am |
re: #51 Lucius Septimius
Mornin' Goddess.
I've always thought I'd like to rewrite the Prince as a parenting manual. "Machiavellian Mommy" or some such.
{Lucius Septimius}
When I was a new teacher, I'll admit that I wanted to be loved, and I was sometimes too "nice" rather than "just."
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eon Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:10:24am |
re: #42 LeftJustAintRight
Listening to Quinn & Rose this morning
Quinn seems to think Hillary is not finished Hussein Obama
Because she only suspended her campaign and still controlls her delegates
Hmmm ?
She's already got her fallback plan ready, namely for the convention.
Best guess- she'll hold onto enough delegates to prevent a first-ballot nomination. Then, when delegates are released for the second, offer a "compromise", like (Eugene) McCarthy in Chicago in '68. That "compromise" being herself with the Obameister as her running mate.
Meanwhile, in the streets outside, every kook and zany to the left of Ned Lamont will be busy trying to turn Denver into Woodstock- with extra Molotov Cocktails for everybody.
Call it "Days of Rage- The Next Generation".
/anybody else making popcorn?
cheers
eon
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Fredlike Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:16:11am |
re: #45 Hengineer
The main theme of the book is that all Fascists are in fact left wing. Hitler, Mussolini, FDR, Wilson were all very much lefties. The Fascists were called right wing by the communist because even though they were both socialist, national versus internationalist, they may have been slightly to the right.
Most Islamic regimes are very much modeled on either the national socialist or communists model. The exceptions are the theocracies like the Taliban and Iran, but even there they are not typical of the US right which stands for personnel freedom and smaller government. In practice they follow the left wing ideal of government control of everything (this assumes they are in power of course)
I'm not going to be able to rewrite the whole book here and I haven't finished it yet. One thing to remember though is that after WWII Fascism become identified with anti-semitism and other evils. Prior to the war it was seen as a different model of government not evil. Goldberg calls the US version nice fascism in that there was very little brutality involve, and not the total rejection of christianity that was seen in Europe.
The collective, the nanny state, it takes a village, all very good fascist themes.
Off to work now, have fun all.
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Fredlike Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:17:56am |
re: #58 abolitionist
They were fighting deflation so the price controls were for minimum prices.
Didn't work any better than the Nixon upper bound price controls as you might expect.
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Lucius Septimius Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:18:24am |
re: #60 goddessoftheclassroom
{Lucius Septimius}
When I was a new teacher, I'll admit that I wanted to be loved, and I was sometimes too "nice" rather than "just."
Me too -- actually what I wanted was for them to share my passion. I had to learn that not everyone will, and that you have to pitch things differently to different people; you can't present an idea once or in only one way, but multiple ways. I also learned to draw on my background in theater and stand-up -- I can work a crowd pretty well and am a good story teller.
Sometimes you have to trick people into thinking.
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eon Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:20:52am |
Well, like Fredlike, I have to run, too.
Have a great day, Lizards.
cheers
eon
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Hengineer Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:22:10am |
re: #62 Fredlike
The main theme of the book is that all Fascists are in fact left wing. Hitler, Mussolini, FDR, Wilson were all very much lefties. The Fascists were called right wing by the communist because even though they were both socialist, national versus internationalist, they may have been slightly to the right.
Most Islamic regimes are very much modeled on either the national socialist or communists model. The exceptions are the theocracies like the Taliban and Iran, but even there they are not typical of the US right which stands for personnel freedom and smaller government. In practice they follow the left wing ideal of government control of everything (this assumes they are in power of course)
I'm not going to be able to rewrite the whole book here and I haven't finished it yet. One thing to remember though is that after WWII Fascism become identified with anti-semitism and other evils. Prior to the war it was seen as a different model of government not evil. Goldberg calls the US version nice fascism in that there was very little brutality involve, and not the total rejection of christianity that was seen in Europe.
The collective, the nanny state, it takes a village, all very good fascist themes.
Off to work now, have fun all.
My point is that there are multiple kinds of "rights". There is the Religious Right, which is actually almost fascist, in that it does wish to control more, to "nanny-state" people from doing "bad things" and then the rest of the "Right" which IS for smaller government.
I do concede that most of the most famous fascists of modern era who've come to power HAVE been of the left-wing variety, that doesn't mean that there are no such thing as right-wing fascists.
Think of politics as a 2-d instead of 1-d scale. Left-Right is liberal-conservative, and Up-Down is Fascist-Anarchist.
One can be Right wing, and still want MORE government (cough)...Huckabee ...(cough)
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abolitionist Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:22:57am |
re: #63 Fredlike
Thanks.
In other news, the times they are a changing, and you don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.
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mikeinmd Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:23:59am |
Anti-crime `street teams' to mobilize in St. Louis
Plans also call for partnering with other groups to mentor young people, and regular neighborhood summits.
How long before CAIR inserts their Ameriphobic probiscus into this program ?
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Render Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:24:19am |
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Lucius Septimius Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:24:43am |
re: #59 godfrey
I always thought that if the Prince did all that Machiavelli says he should do, he would surely soon be found out and murdered. Was Machiavelli goading this on? His Discourses are all about republics and civic virtues ... was he really anti- Prince?
Yes and no.
Machiavelli's idea is a Prince who establishes a Republic -- the four "founders" he discusses (Moses, Cyrus, Theseus, and Romulus) all did that to an extent. But you need an initial lawgiver, someone to create and initially enforce the new modes and orders (i.e., laws, customs, social structures, governing institutions) around which the state and society is organized. A prince -- like Moses -- who can create particularly effective modes and orders can create a state which will endure in spite of whatever is thrown against it. His comments about the Church, an institution he both admires and abhors, are instructive -- they have orders grown old with religion; they do not enforce them yet people obey, they do not govern and yet people remain under them. The modes and orders of Christianity may not provide the best foundation for a state, but they are amazingly effective.
As for the persona of the Prince, I would suggest that for Machiavelli, the republican citizen must have the virtues of the prince; in a polity where power -- executive and legislative -- is shared out among the citizens, the citizens must be able and willing to take that burden seriously, which means that they must become princes themselves lest they lose their liberty.
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:25:21am |
re: #64 Lucius Septimius
Me too -- actually what I wanted was for them to share my passion. I had to learn that not everyone will, and that you have to pitch things differently to different people; you can't present an idea once or in only one way, but multiple ways. I also learned to draw on my background in theater and stand-up -- I can work a crowd pretty well and am a good story teller.
Sometimes you have to trick people into thinking.
Absolutely. I love throwing out statements contrary to the conventional wisdom and seeing their looks of shock at my blasphemy. For instance, one student said something along the lines of "everything is relative"; I shot back with, "No, it isn't. There is right and wrong, good and evil, and actions fall into one of those two categories. You can rationalize an action, you can explain mitigating circumstances, but it doesn't change the nature of the action itself."
A terrific discussion followed...
With junior high kids, I try to make my class something they look forward to; if I can create a positive atmosphere, it helps break down some of the resistance.
A few years ago, a kid told me, "I really hate English, but I love your class."
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Killian Bundy Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:25:51am |
Military shoots down missile in test off Hawaii
The U.S. military intercepted a ballistic missile Thursday in the first such sea-based test since a Navy cruiser shot down an errant satellite earlier this year.
The military fired the target, a Scud-like missile with a range of a few hundred miles, from a decommissioned amphibious assault ship near Hawaii's island of Kauai.
The USS Lake Erie, based at Pearl Harbor, fired two interceptor missiles that shot down the target in its final seconds of flight about 12 miles above the Pacific Ocean.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:26:46am |
re: #68 abolitionist
I remember back when all of the folk singers, rock and rollers, and Hollywood types were shillin' for the Bushes, Dole, Nixon, Ford, Eisenhower, etc. When did that change?
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Killian Bundy Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:28:06am |
re: #70 Render
Terrible Tommy Silverstein comes to mind.
NON
CONTACT,
R
Ooh, Aryan Brotherhood.
/nice touch
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:28:12am |
re: #72 goddessoftheclassroom
You are going to be a helluva a Drama Teacher.
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:28:22am |
re: #65 rightside
Morning Lizards!
{rightside}
Good morning!
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Hengineer Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:28:45am |
Interesting Political Quiz that looks at various DIFFERENT ways you can view things.
[Link: politicalquiz.net...]
The following are your scores. They are based on a gradual range of 0 to 12. For instance, a Conservative/Progressive score of 3 and 0 will both yield a result of social conservative, yet 0 would be an extreme conservative and 3 a moderate conservativeConservative/Progressive score: 5
You are a social moderate. You think the progressive movement is overall well meaning, but sometimes it goes too far. On issues like abortion and affirmative action, you see the negatives of both extremes on the issue. You probably value religion, but at the same time you think it should still stay separate from the governmentCapitalist Purist/Social Capitalist score: 0
You're a Capitalist Purist. You believe that the market should be completely free, and that the invisible hand of the market will make sure that the people get what they want and will do it in the most efficient way possible. You believe in small government, less taxes, and more privatization.Libertarian/Authoritarian score: 7
You're a Moderate. You think that we all have certain inalienable rights that must be protected, but that sometimes laws need to be made to protect the majority's lives or quality of lives. You might think that the 2nd amendment isn't necessary anymore because letting everyone a gun is extremely dangerous to the community. You might also be against illegal drug use or public pornography because of its possible harmful effects to society.Pacifist/Militarist score: 9
You're a Militarist. You believe that since the United States has so much power in the world, it has a responsibility to keep the world safe. You think that if the US does not exert its power in the world, it may eventually lose its power, and that we can not look weak in the face of terrorists, and must take them out where they live.Overall, you would most likely fit into the category of Republican
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laZardo Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:30:35am |
re: #74 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
When the Cold War ended and now that we were the only superpower, we should only use our powers for good.
/"good" being very narrowly defined in this case.
//Such as GOOD EVENING Y'ALL.
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mikeinmd Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:31:10am |
For GOTC :
Can you spell 'education?' This school can't ...
WESTLAKE, Ohio (AP) -- A Cleveland-area principal says he's embarrassed his students got proof of their "educaiton" on their high school diplomas.
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goddessoftheclassroom Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:31:15am |
re: #76 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You are going to be a helluva a Drama Teacher.
(blushing) Why, thank you!
I've got to run, Lizards--inservice workshops to write new curriculum...
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zionista Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:31:40am |
I Chose Against University of California Irvine Because of Hate Speech
I Chose Against University of California Irvine Because of Hate Speech
Spencer Morgan June 2nd 2008
Poughkeepsie, NY
I am a student in college and have been hearing many stories about Israel and America on the campus that make my skin crawl.
I was accepted to University California Irvine, but decided against it. I heard Allyson Rowen Taylor speak at a Chabad event and she discussed the issues on the campus to a room filled with parents who had no idea what was going on in the public arena. After reading about UCI online, and speaking with others who have seen the campus antics, I decided to go elsewhere, not only for reasons of the intense hatred of Jews at UCI, but because I wanted to be free of the "apartheid walls" and the vitriol of speakers who create hate with my fellow students. I searched for a campus with high academics where study was a priority, and the influence of the MSU was minimal if not absent. While there are issues at my campus, they are tiny compared to the issues of the UCI campus.
Thank you for opening the eyes of others who have no idea what is happening to our universities.
Spencer Morgan is a member of the Vassar Class of 2011.
[Link: www.thecuttingedgenews.com...]
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yochanan Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:31:45am |
re: #49 Lucius Septimius
the sun times is a bird cage liner now was a decent paper when Black ran it.
the tribune is tinged with anti semitism sometimes right in the open
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Lucius Septimius Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:35:46am |
re: #79 buzzsawmonkey
Here, here.
Obama is frightening; it is only the shortest of steps from "identity politics" to the worst excesses of Totalitarianism.
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JamesTKirk Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:36:39am |
re: #10 Hengineer
Nah, how about the new "Islam tallest building in world"
aka Burj Dubai.push him off that.
Imagine the car swarm around whatever vehicle he impacts.
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Lucius Septimius Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:36:57am |
re: #84 yochanan
the sun times is a bird cage liner now was a decent paper when Black ran it.
the tribune is tinged with anti semitism sometimes right in the open
A shame too; I used to like the Tribune, but can't read it any more.
The SunTimes was perfect for reading on the train.
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Lucius Septimius Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:37:40am |
re: #88 JamesTKirk
Imagine the car swarm around whatever vehicle he impacts.
It would be all over the news as "proof" of an Israeli missile attack.
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JamesTKirk Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:38:31am |
re: #14 redc1c4
Let's not get too ghoulish. You'll just let the HuffPos try to draw a flase moral equivalence between us and the way they pray for the painful death of Americans.
Lethal injection is fine. Anything more will just increase his martyr cachet.
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JamesTKirk Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:39:04am |
"flase" is morally equivalent to "false". PIMF.
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yochanan Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:39:15am |
re: #89 Lucius Septimius
the trib has always had a problem with anti semitism in the past i used to be a consative paper now they are trying to be the chicago version of the new york times.
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Hengineer Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:39:33am |
re: #90 Lucius Septimius
It would be all over the news as "proof" of an Israeli missile attack.
Complete with photoshopped pictures with extra darkened smoke after the car crashes subside.
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Hengineer Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:41:25am |
[Link: www.quiz2d.com...]
Another 2-d political quiz calls me a "small government centrist"
Your views call roughly the same amount of government with just a bit more liberty than we currently have in the United States today. Your views are probably best served by a nearly equal mix of Democrats and Republicans in the legislatures, as long as you choose the correct Democrats and Republicans.Or, if you want to make sure government shrinks a bit, you could throw a few Libertarians into the mix. But just a few. The Libertarian Party calls for radical cuts in government far beyond what you want. Think of a tub of cold bathwater. To get it warm enough to be comfortable, you can add scalding hot water to bring the temperature up to ideal.
Approximately 10% of the takers of this quiz scored in this area, 36% for all within the centrist circle.
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laZardo Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:41:45am |
re: #90 Lucius Septimius
Or a secret Mossad operation trying to destabilize the whole region.
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laZardo Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:42:56am |
re: #91 JamesTKirk
Ironic how this guy wants to be a martyr and will probably get a subdued, painless death.
/splodey-dope he won't be.
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Hengineer Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:42:57am |
re: #97 laZardo
Or a secret Mossad operation trying to destabilize the whole region.
Well everything is run by the Mossad anyway, remember J00s run the world.
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Lucius Septimius Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:44:27am |
re: #91 JamesTKirk
Let's not get too ghoulish. You'll just let the HuffPos try to draw a flase moral equivalence between us and the way they pray for the painful death of Americans.
Lethal injection is fine. Anything more will just increase his martyr cachet.
Do it quietly, privately, with no fanfare. The Luca Brasi treatment.
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abolitionist Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:44:59am |
re: #74 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I remember back when all of the folk singers, rock and rollers, and Hollywood types were shillin' for the Bushes, Dole, Nixon, Ford, Eisenhower, etc. When did that change?
Yuri Bezmenov's words are sounding rather phophetic. Scary phophetic.
Bezmenov on demoralization in America
More here.
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littleoldlady Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:45:39am |
re: #79 buzzsawmonkey
he is a supporter of Israel was couched almost entirely in personal, domestic, and racial terms.
Which is why my snarky comment after listening to that speech was, "Obama's next church is going to be a synagogue."
A most excellent post, buzz!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jun 6, 2008 4:57:21am |
No way. 11 minutes since last comment? Is my pooter broken?
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Lucius Septimius Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:00:53am |
re: #105 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
No way. 11 minutes since last comment? Is my pooter broken?
I suspect everyone's coffee kicked in at the same time, forcing them to retire momentarily.
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mikeinmd Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:03:14am |
Another Halo
Bow to your Lord, Reuters. Bow to him.
They are embarrasing themselves with this human worship. And don't care.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:03:16am |
re: #108 Lucius Septimius
BTW Lucius, welcome to summer. Time to re-tool? Or staying busy?
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Hengineer Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:04:35am |
re: #106 rightside
Hengineer! 4 burning, 2 turning?
Negatory, in port, Jebel Ali
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JamesTKirk Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:05:34am |
re: #108 Lucius Septimius
I suspect everyone's coffee kicked in at the same time, forcing them to retire momentarily.
I was checking out the HULC exoskeleton video on one of the spinoff links.
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JamesTKirk Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:06:17am |
re: #109 mikeinmd
They are embarrasing themselves with this human worship.
No, they're not. They have no sense of shame.
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Lucius Septimius Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:06:19am |
re: #107 buzzsawmonkey
a wistful nostalgia calculated to play well with his audience--and that he showed clearly that he views the issue in terms of racial politics and group identities.
Precisely -- he plays on sentiment, on emotions, on vague images but appears to have no principles at all. And I don't even think "race" for him is a concrete category; given his own background it really can't be. It is yet another arbitrary category which can be defined and redefined as is politically expedient.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:06:21am |
re: #108 Lucius Septimius
I suspect everyone's coffee kicked in at the same time, forcing them to retire momentarily.
Comedian said (can't remember his name)...
"The definition of fear? Fear is being stuck in a tunnel in traffic and realizing that you had a bran muffin and a cup of coffee 45 minutes ago."
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granitebill Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:07:02am |
ROP has been busy after 'prayers'
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
BTW,
Hey Jammiewearingfool... nice piece on Jack Lucas and thanks for the Hat Tip on your barry piece ;)
- Your a staple of my morning read... (despite a giants fan- ha)
-granite
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Tigger2005 Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:07:38am |
Once the general election campaign starts, the media will visit Obama's church and find it filled with whites, blacks, Asians, and hispanics and even Jews and Muslims, all holding hands and singing this song, and they'll broadcast it ad nauseum:
Je t'aime
Te amo
Ya ti-bya lyu blyu
Ani o hev ot cha
I love you
The sounds are all as different
As the lands from which they came
And though the words are all unique
Our hearts are still the same
Love in any language
Straight from the heart
Pulls us all together
Never apart
And once we learn to speak it
All the world will hear
Love in any language
Fluently spoken here
We teach the young our differences
Yet look how we're the same
We love to laugh, to dream our dreams
We know the sting of pain
From Leningrad to Lexington
The farmer loves his land
And daddies all get misty-eyed
To give their daughter's hand
Oh maybe when we realize
How much there is to share
We'll find too much in common
To pretend it isn't there
Love in any language
Straight from the heart
Pulls us all together
Never apart
And once we learn to speak it
All the world will hear
Love in any language
Fluently spoken here
Tho' the rehtoric of government
May keep us worlds apart
There's no misinterpreting
The language of the heart
Love in any language
Straight from the heart
Pulls us all together
Never apart
And once we learn to speak it
All the world will hear
Love in any language
Fluently spoken here
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Lucius Septimius Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:07:56am |
re: #110 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Little of both -- got a lot of reading to do and want to get out and do some work in the garden. But no fixed hours, which will be nice.
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doriangrey Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:09:18am |
re: #119 Lucius Septimius
Little of both -- got a lot of reading to do and want to get out and do some work in the garden. But no fixed hours, which will be nice.
In other words you got some industrial grade slacking planned...SLACKER...
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Lucius Septimius Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:10:48am |
re: #120 doriangrey
In other words you got some industrial grade slacking planned...SLACKER...
And durn proud of it!
Actually, my hope is to get at least two book chapters and an article churned out this summer, so I'll be writing like a mad man. But I get to set the schedule.
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doriangrey Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:14:31am |
re: #122 Lucius Septimius
And durn proud of it!
Actually, my hope is to get at least two book chapters and an article churned out this summer, so I'll be writing like a mad man. But I get to set the schedule.
ROTFLMAO...You go Lucius...
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Pullus Iulius Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:20:37am |
re: #109 mikeinmd
Paging the Almighty: We have a First Commandment cleanup on aisle (D).
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galloping granny Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:20:58am |
re: #119 Lucius Septimius
Little of both -- got a lot of reading to do and want to get out and do some work in the garden. But no fixed hours, which will be nice.
You might be surprised at how much pressure that gardening can apply to your "no fixed schedule." :)
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Lucius Septimius Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:22:26am |
re: #127 galloping granny
You might be surprised at how much pressure that gardening can apply to your "no fixed schedule." :)
Oh, it'll apply pressure -- mainly because I'll need to do all that work early in the morning. That said, I take a fairly Darwinian approach to plants -- they have to prove themselves worthy by surviving despite the abuse and neglect.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:23:54am |
re: #128 Lucius Septimius
Thanks a lot. So much for the gardening book I was going to write, named, "Plant 'em and Watch 'em Die".
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galloping granny Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:25:47am |
re: #107 buzzsawmonkey
Thank you. One could point out legitimately that the personal commitment which Obama was trying to sell is itself suspect, given his personal associations with Rashid Khalidi, the late Edward Said, Zbigniew Brzenzski, Jeremiah Wright, etc., and the support he has garnered from such flagrantly anti-Israel figures as Carter and Galloway--but many people will attempt to dismiss these on the grounds that he is not responsible for who decides to support him, or that the mere fact that his associates and acquaintances show a disturbing trend is not proof positive that he shares their opinions.
Consequently, I think it is vital to emphasize that, when given the chance to make his own case in his own words, he chose to do so not only in a shallow and pallid manner which made reference to no actions or stances that he himself had taken and little to nothing he himself had experienced, but instead merely referenced a wistful nostalgia calculated to play well with his audience--and that he showed clearly that he views the issue in terms of racial politics and group identities.
Buzz, zip over to [Link: www.votesmart.org...] and take a look at Obama's Senate voting record. He makes reference to no personal actions or stances because he deliberately avoids having any. He has an unbelievable number of NOVOTES - over 100 times in just a few short years that he has either missed a vote or refused to cast a vote other than present. In some categories that loom very large - abortion & health care among them - he has never cast a vote.
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Pullus Iulius Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:29:11am |
re: #129 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Reminds me of the great gardener (and human, for that matter) Henry Mitchell, who, when contemplating his garden and his own fate wrote
There are no green thumbs or black thumbs. There are only gardeners and non-gardeners. Gardeners are the ones who ruin after ruin get on with the high defiance of nature herself, creating, in the very face of her chaos and tornado, the bower of roses and the pride of irises. . . . Defiance . . . is what makes gardeners.
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doriangrey Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:29:33am |
OK so a poster over at The Jawa Report has posted a very disturbing cartoon. It was published in an Iraqi news paper on June 24th 2000. It shows Saddam kicking down the World Trade Center buildings. Make of this what you will, the cartoon is genuinely authentic.
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galloping granny Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:30:03am |
re: #128 Lucius Septimius
Oh, it'll apply pressure -- mainly because I'll need to do all that work early in the morning. That said, I take a fairly Darwinian approach to plants -- they have to prove themselves worthy by surviving despite the abuse and neglect.
Me too, but I do weed - don't like ticks and it makes it easier to get the good stuff. Now and then I have to water. And once harvest season starts it can take quite some chunk of the day to haul it all down the hill and do something with it.
I can't wait! Despite the cold and rain I've got two kinds of melons, zucchini, cukes and beans all up as of yesterday. And we'll be eating baby bok choy next week.
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gop_patriot Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:34:06am |
Good morning, y'all! :)
/a funny video, it might have been posted already but it's good enough to post twice... Weezer - Pork and Beans (an homage to all the YouTube 'stars' and well known videos LOL)
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gop_patriot Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:38:10am |
re: #130 galloping granny
He's a coward, afraid to do anything that could let people know what he's really about- because then he can't shift with the wind every time it blows from a different direction. Waffler. Ugh.
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galloping granny Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:41:07am |
re: #135 gop_patriot
He's a coward, afraid to do anything that could let people know what he's really about- because then he can't shift with the wind every time it blows from a different direction. Waffler. Ugh.
I think I would call him a con artist writ large. All those NOVOTES about some pretty important subjects can't be anything other than deliberate.
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gop_patriot Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:41:17am |
re: #132 doriangrey
Wow, that's creepy. 2000, huh. I wonder if this is the first time this has been seen?
/now that I've killed the thread, I'm off to take the kids to VBS. Have a good morning, y'all. :)
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Lucius Septimius Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:42:05am |
re: #135 gop_patriot
He's a coward, afraid to do anything that could let people know what he's really about- because then he can't shift with the wind every time it blows from a different direction. Waffler. Ugh.
Oh, but he will provide "leadership" and "hope" and bring about "change."
It says something about how desperate some people are to be led that they would make themselves believe that someone as vacuous and cyncial as Obama is a principled leader.
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ec marm Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:42:05am |
re: #132 doriangrey
OK so a poster over at The Jawa Report has posted a very disturbing cartoon. It was published in an Iraqi news paper on June 24th 2000. It shows Saddam kicking down the World Trade Center buildings. Make of this what you will, the cartoon is genuinely authentic.
A graphic artist and web developer gave me a CD of images in the year 2000. At the end of the school year I gave it back to her but one image, that seemed incongruous, stuck in my brain. It was an image of the U.S. Capitol building, with a huge crack in the dome, smoke pouring out, with a black flag flying over it. It was a fairly large, high resolution image. It wasn't until September 11, 2001 that I thought of it again. I always thought that Flight 93 was headed for the Capitol building.
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Kenneth Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:42:16am |
What a surprise to hear Obama back-peddling from his AIPAC speech... surprise if you haven't heard anything else he has said for the past 20 years. And now we have his standard, "That's not the (fill-in-the-blank) I know" excuse he uses every time he throws somebody under the bus. Actually, I was expecting he would wait till after the election to stop pretending to support Israel. The sooner people see the real Obama, the better.
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Lucius Septimius Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:44:03am |
Oh well, it's been fun, but I've got stuff to do.
Have a great day, ya'll.
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tfc3rid Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:45:19am |
Barack Hussein Obama...
Change You Can Believe In
And
An Agreement They Both Can Live With
Obama in a nutshell... Everything to everyone all of the time...
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perkypauly Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:45:35am |
Does anyone remember, D Day 64 years ago today. Take a moment to remember and give thanks.
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galloping granny Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:45:56am |
re: #139 ec marm
A graphic artist and web developer gave me a CD of images in the year 2000. At the end of the school year I gave it back to her but one image, that seemed incongruous, stuck in my brain. It was an image of the U.S. Capitol building, with a huge crack in the dome, smoke pouring out, with a black flag flying over it. It was a fairly large, high resolution image. It wasn't until September 11, 2001 that I thought of it again. I always thought that Flight 93 was headed for the Capitol building.
In one of the Tom Clancy novels just exactly that happens, while the State of the Union address is being given. Jack Ryan (very low man on the totem pole) becomes POTUS and there is literally no one else left. Sounds pretty familiar, doesn't it?
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songbird Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:47:29am |
Goddessoftheclassroom,
That piece is brilliant, and, if I may, I would like to copy it and share it with some of my teacher colleagues.
re: #46 goddessoftheclassroom
The Teacher:
A Riff on Machiavelli's The Prince,
Replacing Prince with Teacher, His with Her, State with Classroom, and Men with Students
By goddessoftheclassroomI say that every Teacher should desire to be accounted merciful and not cruel. Nevertheless, she should be on her guard against the abuse of this quality of mercy. Cesare Borgia was reputed cruel, yet his cruelty restored Romagna, united it, and brought it to order and obedience; so that if we look at things in their true light, it will be seen that he was in reality far more merciful than the people of Florence, who, to avoid the imputation of cruelty, suffered Pistoja to be torn to pieces by factions.
A Teacher should therefore disregard the reproach of being thought cruel where it enables her to keep her students united and obedient. For she who quells disorder by a very few signal examples will in the end be more merciful than she who from too great leniency permits things to take their course and so to result in rapine and bloodshed; for these hurt the whole Classroom, whereas the severities of the Teacher injure individuals only.
And for a new Teacher, of all others, it is impossible to escape a name for cruelty, since new Classrooms are full of dangers. Wherefore Virgil, by the mouth of Dido, excuses the harshness of her reign on the plea that it was new, saying: A fate unkind, and newness in my reign Compel me this to guard a wide domain Nevertheless, the new Teacher should not be too ready of belief, nor too easily set in motion; not should she herself be the first to raise alarms; but should so temper prudence with kindliness that too great confidence in others shall not throw her off her guard, nor groundless distrust render her insupportable.
And here comes the question whether it is better to be loved rather than feared, or feared rather than loved. It might perhaps be answered that we should wish to be both; but since love and fear can hardly exist together, if we must choose between them, it is far safer to be feared than loved. For of students it may generally be affirmed that they are thankless, fickle, false, studious to avoid danger, greedy of gain, devoted to you while you are able to confer benefits upon them, and ready, as I said before, while danger is distant, to shed their blood, and sacrifice their property, their lives, and their children for you; but in the hour of need they turn against you.
The Teacher, therefore, who without otherwise securing herself builds wholly on their professions is undone. For the friendships which we buy with a price, and do not gain by greatness and nobility of character, though they may be fairly earned are not made good, but fail us when we have occasion to use them
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Kenneth Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:52:31am |
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doriangrey Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:52:45am |
re: #137 gop_patriot
Wow, that's creepy. 2000, huh. I wonder if this is the first time this has been seen?
/now that I've killed the thread, I'm off to take the kids to VBS. Have a good morning, y'all. :)
re: #139 ec marm
A graphic artist and web developer gave me a CD of images in the year 2000. At the end of the school year I gave it back to her but one image, that seemed incongruous, stuck in my brain. It was an image of the U.S. Capitol building, with a huge crack in the dome, smoke pouring out, with a black flag flying over it. It was a fairly large, high resolution image. It wasn't until September 11, 2001 that I thought of it again. I always thought that Flight 93 was headed for the Capitol building.
Just what ever you think, remember that the glorious MSM has proven beyond question that Saddam had zero connection to 9/11. Connections to Osama Bin Laden yes, to other terrorist organizations yes, but none what so ever to 9/11.
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razorbacker Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:54:03am |
I saw it. I stole it. It's mine now, fair and square.
I can see that the Dems already miss the steady hand of Lt. John Kerry at the helm of their windsurfer.
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imtoast Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:54:15am |
re: #109 mikeinmd
Another Halo
Bow to your Lord, Reuters. Bow to him.
They are embarrasing themselves with this human worship. And don't care.
Yuck, he has some really ugly ears.
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tfc3rid Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:55:15am |
re: #78 Hengineer
Interesting Political Quiz that looks at various DIFFERENT ways you can view things.
[Link: politicalquiz.net...]
I fell into the category of NeoCon Republican... Wow... I'm not even Jewish, as the progressives would have you believe the NeoCons are...
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Eric Cartman's Conscience Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:55:51am |
CLINT EASTWOOD STILL THE MIZZAHF*CKIN' MAN!
About Spike Lee's recent criticism:
yes, there was a small detachment of black troops on Iwo Jima as a part of a munitions company, "but they didn't raise the flag. The story is Flags of Our Fathers, the famous flag-raising picture, and they didn't do that. If I go ahead and put an African-American actor in there, people'd go, 'This guy's lost his mind.' I mean, it's not accurate."
Changeling is set in Los Angeles during the Depression, before the city's make-up was changed by the large black influx. "What are you going to do, you gonna tell a fuckin' story about that?" he growls. "Make it look like a commercial for an equal opportunity player? I'm not in that game."
There's more! :)
Even if Clint gets fed up with Republicans and votes Dem this year I'll always love the guy
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ec marm Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:56:02am |
Mandy Manners pointed out to me something interesting. First look at the flag of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. Then, the logo used by the "Relay for Life" of the American Cancer Society. Not a little bit of visual plagiarism involved?
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laZardo Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:57:26am |
re: #152 ec marm
Don't see much of a resemblance, but using white and blue for it makes it look a tad ominous...
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jcbunga Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:57:45am |
Today is D-Day. Let's remember. If you haven't been to the WW2 Memorial in DC yet, try to go. There's always a vet there with family, and a crowd surrounding them shaking hands.
Here's FDR's prayer broadcast to the nation that day, and a link to the original recording (Amazing how leaders and Democrats have changed):
[Link: www.historyplace.com...]
My Fellow Americans:
Last night, when I spoke with you about the fall of Rome, I knew at that moment that troops of the United States and our Allies were crossing the Channel in another and greater operation. It has come to pass with success thus far.
And so, in this poignant hour, I ask you to join with me in prayer:
Almighty God: Our sons, pride of our nation, this day have set upon a mighty endeavor, a struggle to preserve our Republic, our religion, and our civilization, and to set free a suffering humanity.
Lead them straight and true; give strength to their arms, stoutness to their hearts, steadfastness in their faith.
They will need Thy blessings. Their road will be long and hard. For the enemy is strong. He may hurl back our forces. Success may not come with rushing speed, but we shall return again and again; and we know that by Thy grace, and by the righteousness of our cause, our sons will triumph.
They will be sore tried, by night and by day, without rest -- until the victory is won. The darkness will be rent by noise and flame. Men's souls will be shaken with the violences of war.
For these men are lately drawn from the ways of peace. They fight not for the lust of conquest. They fight to end conquest. They fight to liberate. They fight to let justice arise, and tolerance and goodwill among all Thy people. They yearn but for the end of battle, for their return to the haven of home.
Some will never return. Embrace these, Father, and receive them, Thy heroic servants, into Thy kingdom.
And for us at home -- fathers, mothers, children, wives, sisters, and brothers of brave men overseas, whose thoughts and prayers are ever with them -- help us, Almighty God, to rededicate ourselves in renewed faith in Thee in this hour of great sacrifice.
Many people have urged that I call the nation into a single day of special prayer. But because the road is long and the desire is great, I ask that our people devote themselves in a continuance of prayer. As we rise to each new day, and again when each day is spent, let words of prayer be on our lips, invoking Thy help to our efforts.
Give us strength, too -- strength in our daily tasks, to redouble the contributions we make in the physical and the material support of our armed forces.
And let our hearts be stout, to wait out the long travail, to bear sorrows that may come, to impart our courage unto our sons wheresoever they may be.
And, O Lord, give us faith. Give us faith in Thee; faith in our sons; faith in each other; faith in our united crusade. Let not the keeness of our spirit ever be dulled. Let not the impacts of temporary events, of temporal matters of but fleeting moment -- let not these deter us in our unconquerable purpose.
With Thy blessing, we shall prevail over the unholy forces of our enemy. Help us to conquer the apostles of greed and racial arrogances. Lead us to the saving of our country, and with our sister nations into a world unity that will spell a sure peace -- a peace invulnerable to the schemings of unworthy men. And a peace that will let all of men live in freedom, reaping the just rewards of their honest toil.
Thy will be done, Almighty God.
Amen.
Franklin D. Roosevelt - June 6, 1944
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abolitionist Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:57:55am |
Geert Wilders visits Copenhagen (video)
Description:
1. June 2008Geert Wilders holding a speech in the Danish parliament building about his resent film "Fitna".
Mr. Wilders also gave his opinion on Islam in general, with some following words about the Islamisation process of Europe. ("The Eurabia project") Geert was invited to Denmark by the Danish Free press society.
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galloping granny Fri, Jun 6, 2008 5:59:22am |
re: #152 ec marm
Mandy Manners pointed out to me something interesting. First look at the flag of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan. Then, the logo used by the "Relay for Life" of the American Cancer Society. Not a little bit of visual plagiarism involved?
Why the heck does the American Cancer Society have a star and crescent as part of the Relay for Life logo? That is the most jarring "logo" I've seen in some while. Looks like a two year old threw it together. No unity at all.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:00:57am |
re: #150 tfc3rid
I fell into the category of NeoCon Republican... Wow... I'm not even Jewish, as the progressives would have you believe the NeoCons are...
I came out a little to the right of Ganges Khan. I think it might have underestimated how conservative I am.
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galloping granny Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:01:12am |
re: #154 jcbunga
Today is D-Day. Let's remember. If you haven't been to the WW2 Memorial in DC yet, try to go. There's always a vet there with family, and a crowd surrounding them shaking hands.
Here's FDR's prayer broadcast to the nation that day, and a link to the original recording (Amazing how leaders and Democrats have changed):
[Link: www.historyplace.com...]My Fellow Americans:
Last night, when I spoke with you about the fall of Rome, I knew at that moment that troops of the United States and our Allies were crossing the Channel in another and greater operation. It has come to pass with success thus far.
And so, in this poignant hour, I ask you to join with me in prayer:
Almighty God: SNIP
These days they would impeach him - violation of "separation of church and state."
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madisonsfriend Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:03:54am |
re: #99 Hengineer
Well everything is run by the Mossad anyway, remember J00s run the world.
This is true and yet, i still need to keep this day job. Running the world as part of ZOG doesn't pay the bills!
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:04:02am |
General Dwight David Eisenhower: June 6th 1944
[Link: www.kansasheritage.org...]
Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen of the Allied Expeditionary Force!
You are about to embark upon the Great Crusade, toward which we have
striven these many months. The eyes of the world are upon you. The
hopes and prayers of liberty-loving people everywhere march with you.
In company with our brave Allies and brothers-in-arms on
other Fronts, you will bring about the destruction of the German war
machine, the elimination of Nazi tyranny over the oppressed peoples of
Europe, and security for ourselves in a free world.
Your task will not be an easy one. Your enemy is well trained, well
equipped and battle hardened. He will fight savagely.
But this is the year 1944! Much has happened since the Nazi triumphs of
1940-41. The United Nations have inflicted upon the Germans great defeats,
in open battle, man-to-man. Our air offensive has seriously reduced their
strength in the air and their capacity to wage war on the ground. Our Home
Fronts have given us an overwhelming superiority in weapons and munitions
of war, and placed at our disposal great reserves of trained fighting men.
The tide has turned! The free men of the world are marching together to
Victory!
I have full confidence in your courage and devotion to duty and skill in
battle. We will accept nothing less than full Victory!
Good luck! And let us beseech the blessing of Almighty God upon this great
and noble undertaking.
SIGNED: Dwight D. Eisenhower
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Kenneth Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:05:18am |
re: #152 ec marm
See also, the Turkish flag. The crescent embracing a star is a significant symbol in Islam. The cancer society relay is different, in that the star is outside the crescent.
And of course, here's one more crescent symbol
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Ojoe Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:06:06am |
re: #13 Hengineer
"A cat is more intelligent than people believe, and can be taught any crime."
— Mark Twain.
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ec marm Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:06:15am |
re: #156 galloping granny
Why the heck does the American Cancer Society have a star and crescent as part of the Relay for Life logo? That is the most jarring "logo" I've seen in some while. Looks like a two year old threw it together. No unity at all.
I'm only pointing it out so that any teachers or "art purchasers" out there that are unfamiliar with the number of islamic nations* that use the crescent and star as part of their flags, don't think that this is some original design they are being presented with.
*First row: Algeria, Azerbaijani Republic, Malaysia, Maldives
Middle row: Republic of Singapore,Tunisia, Turkey,Turkmenistan
Bottom row: Islamic Republic of Pakistan, Comoros, Islamic Republic of Mauritania, Uzbekistan
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tfc3rid Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:06:46am |
re: #158 galloping granny
These days they would impeach him - violation of "separation of church and state."
He would have been Lieberman-ed from the Democrat Party...
Speaking of Joe Lieberman, read in the NY Post this mornign that Obama cornered Lieberman in the Senate yesterday and was quite intimidating towards him...
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jcbunga Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:06:48am |
re: #158 galloping granny
These days they would impeach him - violation of "separation of church and state."
sadly, no doubt.
You only have to go back to JFK and LBJ speaches to see how far the Libs have fallen.
It seems the "conservatives" are now the libs, and the "libs" are now marixists/socialists. Gotta be a righty out there someplace.
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madisonsfriend Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:07:09am |
re: #150 tfc3rid
I fell into the category of NeoCon Republican... Wow... I'm not even Jewish, as the progressives would have you believe the NeoCons are...
You can be an honorary Jew. I will allow it as a member of the all powerful Office of Jewish Global Domination.
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:07:35am |
Good morning Lizardia!
Now what?
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tfc3rid Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:08:11am |
re: #166 madisonsfriend
You can be an honorary Jew. I will allow it as a member of the all powerful Office of Jewish Global Domination.
Well, this Irish-German Catholic appreciates it!
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laZardo Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:08:39am |
re: #163 ec marm
I'm only pointing it out so that any teachers or "art purchasers" out there that are unfamiliar with the number of islamic nations* that use the crescent and star as part of their flags, don't think that this is some original design they are being presented with.
*First row: Algeria, Azerbaijani Republic, Malaysia, Maldives
Middle row: Republic of Singapore,Tunisia, Turkey,Turkmenistan
Bottom row: Islamic Republic of Pakistan, Comoros, Islamic Republic of Mauritania, Uzbekistan
I don't recall Singapore being a Muslim country...
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madisonsfriend Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:09:16am |
re: #168 Kenneth
Did you ever hear that it was a Zionist plot because you can rearrange the symbols to look like the word Zion? We are truly everywhere.
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galloping granny Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:09:56am |
re: #164 tfc3rid
He would have been Lieberman-ed from the Democrat Party...
Speaking of Joe Lieberman, read in the NY Post this mornign that Obama cornered Lieberman in the Senate yesterday and was quite intimidating towards him...
Really? That seems to be throwing a lot of weight around for a junior first-term Senator, even one who thinks he might like to be POTUS. Got linky?
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:10:25am |
June 4th 1944 : If the Invasion had failed. If America had not fulfilled it's G-D given destiny.
[Link: doinghistoryproject.tripod.com...]
Our landings have failed and I have withdrawn the troops. My decision to attack at this time and place was based on the best information available. The troops, the air and the Navy did all that bravery could do. If any blame or fault attaches to the attempt it is mine alone.”
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madisonsfriend Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:10:34am |
re: #173 GreenDroll
Happy D-Day you all!
God Bless America and the men and women who fought for our freedom.
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tfc3rid Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:10:39am |
re: #168 Kenneth
that one is pretty horrific...
Here is another bad one... Looks like Domino's Pizza...
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laZardo Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:10:47am |
re: #168 Kenneth
There was someone who photoshopped that to look like the 0-2 on the right was going Gomorrah on the 2-1 on the left.
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Kenneth Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:11:11am |
re: #171 madisonsfriend
I hadn't heard that, but it makes sense...(adjusting tin-foil hat)
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Ojoe Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:11:15am |
re: #154 jcbunga
This is a tribute to the soldiers of D Day.
It is by a Frenchman, and at least one Frenchman who gets it.
Actually many do.
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:11:43am |
Good morning y'all from a hot (77 degrees, going up to 99 degrees) but brilliantly sunny Charlotte!
BTW, I hope all y'all remember this date: June 6th.
In 1944 an awful lot of extremely brave young Americans, Canadians, British, Polish and Free French forces landed on Nazi Occupied French beaches, enduring a hail of bullets and artillery to begin the liberation of Europe and the end to Adolph Hitler. God Bless each and every one of them.
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tfc3rid Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:12:02am |
re: #172 galloping granny
Really? That seems to be throwing a lot of weight around for a junior first-term Senator, even one who thinks he might like to be POTUS. Got linky?
Here you go Granny...
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ec marm Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:12:25am |
re: #168 Kenneth
Zionist conspiracy, didn't you know? Can you see the word "ZION"?
The smaller logo here, if you click on it, shows what some other people see in that logo.
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loppyd Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:14:02am |
Good Morning Lizard Nation!
Wild night in the Boston sports world.
Oh and the Celtics took game 1 against the Lakers. LOL
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:14:11am |
re: #181 tfc3rid
Here you go Granny...
I suspect Lieberman might pay Obama back at the RNC Convention.
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songbird Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:14:13am |
Happy Day to all Lizards!
Greetings from sunny Las Cruces, New Mexico, where it is cooler and more comfortable now than in Washington, DC and a good part of the eastern seaboard. Highs today in the lower 90s with a lovely dry heat! Don't worry. Our payback comes in July and August with very high heat, monsoons and humidity in August.
Tomorrow I take a German Exam to add a German teaching certification onto my teaching license.
The presidential campaign has fizzled to a disappointing end with candidates now 'chosen'. Can't we just vote for "none of the above"?
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LittleRed1 Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:14:19am |
A good friend of mine jumped Normandy, Market Garden and was at the Bastogne. I've spent hours listening to him and his friends talk about The War, at least what they are willing to tell me. (Battle of the Bulge is not discussed, for various reasons.)
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Ojoe Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:14:32am |
Some of our European friends do remember.
The people who see and make a difference are not the majority.
But the remnant, so to speak, will carry the day in the future too.
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sparrowlake Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:14:35am |
re: #158 galloping granny
These days they would impeach him - violation of "separation of church and state."
Every President has regularly invoked the name of God in speeches to the nation, and none have been impeached for it.
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irongrampa Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:14:37am |
And in the course of the day, y'all might take a moment to reflect on this day, 64 years ago, and say thanks.
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abolitionist Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:15:20am |
re: #147 doriangrey
Just what ever you think, remember that the glorious MSM has proven beyond question that Saddam had zero connection to 9/11. Connections to Osama Bin Laden yes, to other terrorist organizations yes, but none what so ever to 9/11.
This is not proof that Saddam was behind 911. [Link: www.factsofisrael.com...]
However, Saddam's own criterion for executing his enemies was a simple one - intent.
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ec marm Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:15:54am |
re: #170 laZardo
I don't recall Singapore being a Muslim country...
Opps, you're right:
Buddhist 42.5%, Muslim 14.9%, Taoist 8.5%, Hindu 4%, Catholic 4.8%, other Christian 9.8%, other 0.7%, none 14.8% (2000 census) [Link: www.cia.gov...]
Strange that they would use such a symbol in their flag.
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tfc3rid Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:16:03am |
re: #184 Nevergiveup
I suspect Lieberman might pay Obama back at the RNC Convention.
Lieberman will give the Zell Miller speech...
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:16:39am |
Good Morning and Happy Friday, {all y'all}.
Let's all get on our desks and do the happy dance!
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galloping granny Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:17:18am |
re: #194 redstateredneck
Good Morning and Happy Friday, {all y'all}.
Let's all get on our desks and do the happy dance!
If I did the happy dance on my desk the desk would collapse and I would be in dual casts for the entire summer.
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:17:54am |
re: #196 galloping granny
You may dance whilst seated, granny.
;-)
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loppyd Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:17:54am |
Soldiers, Sailors and Airmen of the Allied Expeditionary Force!
You are about to embark upon the Great Crusade, toward which we have
striven these many months. The eyes of the world are upon you. The
hopes and prayers of liberty-loving people everywhere march with you.
In company with our brave Allies and brothers-in-arms on
other Fronts, you will bring about the destruction of the German war
machine, the elimination of Nazi tyranny over the oppressed peoples of
Europe, and security for ourselves in a free world.
Your task will not be an easy one. Your enemy is well trained, well
equipped and battle hardened. He will fight savagely.
But this is the year 1944! Much has happened since the Nazi triumphs of
1940-41. The United Nations have inflicted upon the Germans great defeats,
in open battle, man-to-man. Our air offensive has seriously reduced their
strength in the air and their capacity to wage war on the ground. Our Home
Fronts have given us an overwhelming superiority in weapons and munitions
of war, and placed at our disposal great reserves of trained fighting men.
The tide has turned! The free men of the world are marching together to
Victory!
I have full confidence in your courage and devotion to duty and skill in
battle. We will accept nothing less than full Victory!
Good luck! And let us beseech the blessing of Almighty God upon this great
and noble undertaking.
SIGNED: Dwight D. Eisenhower
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:17:56am |
re: #183 loppyd
Good Morning Lizard Nation!
Wild night in the Boston sports world.
Oh and the Celtics took game 1 against the Lakers. LOL
What was it between Manny and Youkles?
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CIA Reject Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:18:00am |
re: #193 tfc3rid
Lieberman will give the Zell Miller speech...
Before or after accepting the VP nomination?
/Just a thought...
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tfc3rid Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:18:04am |
Well, I for one and thankful and recall what our incredibly brave men did on June 6, 1944...
It was an incredible assault and one that worked... The beginning of the Allied assault on Europe... Incredible...
One has to stop and think if such an endeavor will ever be seen again...
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laZardo Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:18:43am |
re: #192 ec marm
They used to be a province of Malaysia, before they were kicked out for some reason. Funny how that turned out.
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tfc3rid Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:18:52am |
re: #200 CIA Reject
Before or after accepting the VP nomination?
/Just a thought...
I've actually had that thought as well off and on... I don't think that would be a very good idea...
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Dolphin Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:19:01am |
re: #193 tfc3rid
I don't think ANYONE (in polictics today) can give another speach like that. It is one of those speaches, at least in my life, that will alway stand out. I really made an impression on me.
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sparrowlake Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:19:10am |
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Kenneth Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:19:14am |
re: #192 ec marm
Singapore broke away from Muslim majority Malaysia. The inclusion of the vaguely Islamic symbolism in the flag was a kind of "inclusiveness" gesture to the minority population. The 5 stars represent each of the major ethnic/religious groups.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:19:40am |
Another Kossack jumps ship...
For over twenty years, I have identified myself as a Democrat.
For over twenty years, I don't think I've ever voted for anyone who wasn't a Democrat except in primaries after the Dem nominee was selected OR in races where there were no Dems running.
Thank you DailyKos.. you've convinced me that this Democrat... this former Democrat... is an Independent now.
I have called the DNC and asked them to remove my name from their fundraising lists and email lists.
Why?
We have selected as our nominee a man with only three years of experience at the Federal level; much of which he spent campaigning for President. In fact, according to govtrack.com (which btw ranks him to the right of Clinton)
he's missed 21% of the votes taken in the Senate since he joined it.Obama tells us lies about not taking money from lobbyists.
Obama's campaign has been extremely sexist and has used his male privilege to benefit from sexism in the media.
They took half of my vote from me and took delegates won from a candidate and gave them to another.
I am also leaving DailyKos.
This site has devolved into little more than venomous comments and hate towards anyone who disagrees with the pack. I don't want to participate in a site that thinks that making comments about Clinton's breasts, PResident Clinton's dick or McCain's teeth is valid political commentary.
I don't think you are what you think you are.
Heh.
Good morning lizards!
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yesandno Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:19:40am |
re: #170 laZardo
re: #163 ec marm
I'm only pointing it out so that any teachers or "art purchasers" out there that are unfamiliar with the number of islamic nations* that use the crescent and star as part of their flags, don't think that this is some original design they are being presented with.
*First row: Algeria, Azerbaijani Republic, Malaysia, Maldives
Middle row: Republic of Singapore,Tunisia, Turkey,Turkmenistan
Bottom row: Islamic Republic of Pakistan, Comoros, Islamic Republic of Mauritania, Uzbekistan
I don't recall Singapore being a Muslim country...
Why does the IR of Mauritania look like someone shot the Cheshire Cat right between the eyes?
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CIA Reject Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:20:37am |
re: #203 tfc3rid
I've actually had that thought as well off and on... I don't think that would be a very good idea...
Yeah, but watching all the resultant cranial detonations would be fun!
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lawhawk Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:22:55am |
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Things are once again quite busy in the ME, with Israel firing on Hamas and other terrorists as the terrorists' rocket war against Israel continues to inflict casualties.
Meanwhile, the US is considering lifting the ban on selling Israel the F-22 Raptor. That wont do anything with respect to the Palestinian issue, but is directed solely at the Iranian nuclear situation. Right now, it's just talk, but if the Iranians continue to show that they have no intention of giving up their nuclear program, watch for the US to sell the Israelis the weapons systems needed to take out existential threat to Israel's security.
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sparrowlake Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:22:56am |
re: #209 CIA Reject
Yeah, but watching all the resultant cranial detonations would be fun!
Are those like brain farts?
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Killian Bundy Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:23:03am |
Vote Obama!
/take a principled stand, so he doesn't have to
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Kenneth Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:24:07am |
Also on 6 June, the Battle of Belleau Wood, in 1918.
Sempre Fi, Devil Dogs.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:24:08am |
On this historic day June 4th 1944, google chooses to honor the brave soldiers of...er...Diego Velázquez---what the f-uck?
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:24:25am |
re: #207 NJDhockeyfan
I love it when the scales fall from their eyes and they see the light.
Hallelujah!
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Killian Bundy Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:24:46am |
Vote Obama!
/don't you want a free unicorn?
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galloping granny Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:25:20am |
re: #210 lawhawk
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Things are once again quite busy in the ME, with Israel firing on Hamas and other terrorists as the terrorists' rocket war against Israel continues to inflict casualties.
Meanwhile, the US is considering lifting the ban on selling Israel the F-22 Raptor. That wont do anything with respect to the Palestinian issue, but is directed solely at the Iranian nuclear situation. Right now, it's just talk, but if the Iranians continue to show that they have no intention of giving up their nuclear program, watch for the US to sell the Israelis the weapons systems needed to take out existential threat to Israel's security.
Better get a move on if they're going to do that. Unless McCain wins in November, all bets are off and I would expect anything in the pipeline to come to a screeching halt. Obama would change US Israel policy (already not all that great) markedly - and not for the better.
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loppyd Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:25:29am |
re: #187 tfc3rid
Not bad loppy... Not bad at all...
I was up way past my bedtime watching all the excitement!
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:25:31am |
re: #214 Nevergiveup
On this historic day June 4th 1944, google chooses to honor the brave soldiers of...er...Diego Velázquez---what the f-uck?
Surprised?
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Ojoe Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:25:56am |
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loppyd Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:26:35am |
re: #199 Nevergiveup
What was it between Manny and Youkles?
Yes!
Nobody's talking, though.
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:26:41am |
re: #183 loppyd Hey {loppyd}! Good morning goodlooking! Say, how long has ole Manny been doing them 'roids again? Or has he moved on to crystal Meth?! LOL!
I have no idea why he "bitch slapped" (not the term I'd use but...) Youkilis but you just don't do that to a teamate in the middle of a game, and in full public view.
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rightside Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:26:55am |
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Kenneth Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:27:17am |
When I listened to Obama's speech to AIPAC and heard him vow to defend Israel, with an undivided capital in Jerusalem, I was shocked, I tell you, because,
"That's not the Obama I know!"
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sparrowlake Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:27:55am |
re: #207 NJDhockeyfan
"I don't want to participate in a site that thinks that making comments about Clinton's breasts, PResident Clinton's dick or McCain's teeth is valid political commentary."
This Ex-Koss is confused.
Hillary should not be referred to as "President Clinton".
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Killian Bundy Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:28:25am |
Vote Obama!
/stop worrying whether or not you make enough money
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loppyd Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:28:53am |
re: #222 {realwest}
Hey {loppyd}! Good morning goodlooking! Say, how long has ole Manny been doing them 'roids again? Or has he moved on to crystal Meth?! LOL!
I have no idea why he "bitch slapped" (not the term I'd use but...) Youkilis but you just don't do that to a teamate in the middle of a game, and in full public view.
Good Morning Handsome!
I have no clue what started it...and you're right it was uncalled for.
Terry Francona was mum on the subject last night, but the Boston sports media will probably dig it up.
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tfc3rid Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:29:06am |
re: #218 loppyd
I was up way past my bedtime watching all the excitement!
As was I but I was watching the Mets lose and a $#%^% hit by pitch in the bottom of the ninth in San Diego...
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:29:06am |
re: #195 Who Watches the Watchmen? Huh, watch out for falling bowlers or something?!? LOL!
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galloping granny Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:29:35am |
re: #228 Killian Bundy
Vote Obama!
/stop worrying whether or not you make enough money
Won't need money in the re-education camps.
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Killian Bundy Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:29:54am |
re: #225 Kenneth
When I listened to Obama's speech to AIPAC and heard him vow to defend Israel, with an undivided capital in Jerusalem, I was shocked, I tell you, because,
"That's not the Obama I know!"
/did you catch the part where he promised to end weapons smuggling into Gaza?
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tfc3rid Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:30:27am |
re: #230 tfc3rid
As was I but I was watching the Mets lose and a $#%^% hit by pitch in the bottom of the ninth in San Diego...
And of course, all night long there was this douche sitting behind home plate wearing the Obama 'O' t-shirt...
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:30:32am |
re: #232 BFSkinner
Hello all from Metro Chicago.
Pronounced Chicargo by 9 out of 10 southerners.
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Dirk Diggler Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:31:07am |
Realwest,
Say, how long has ole Manny been doing them 'roids again? Or has he moved on to crystal Meth?! LOL!
I have no idea why he "bitch slapped" (not the term I'd use but...) Youkilis but you just don't do that to a teamate in the middle of a game, and in full public view.
"That's not the Manny I know..."
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BFSkinner Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:31:42am |
re: #237 redstateredneck
Pronounced Chicargo by 9 out of 10 southerners.
Trust me... I'd rather hear a Southern accent than a Chicago accent anyday. I am from MI ... swore I'd never live back up north... and here I am. Blech.
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cygnus Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:31:54am |
re: #7 Killian Bundy
/death by freefall, give him a few minutes to think about it
From the top of a very tall skyscraper, just so he'll know how some of the 9/11 victims felt.
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Kenneth Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:32:08am |
June 6 in history:
1508 - Maximilian I, Holy Roman Emperor, is defeated in Friulia by Venetian forces; he is forced to sign a three-year truce and cede several territories to Venice.
1513 - Italian Wars: Battle of Novara. Swiss troops defeat the French under Louis de la Tremoille, forcing the French to abandon Milan. Duke Massimiliano Sforza is restored.
1644 - the Qing Dynasty Manchu forces led by the Shunzhi Emperor capture Beijing during the collapse of the Ming Dynasty. The Manchus would rule China until 1912 when the Republic of China was established.
1813 - War of 1812: Battle of Stoney Creek - A British force of 700 under John Vincent defeat an American force three times its size under William Winder and John Chandler.
1862 - American Civil War: Battle of Memphis - Union forces capture Memphis, Tennessee, from the Confederates.
1882 - The Shewan forces of Menelik defeat the Gojjame army in the Battle of Embabo. The Shewans capture Negus Tekle Haymanot of Gojjam, and their victory leads to a Shewan hegemony over the territories south of the Abay River.
1982 - 1982 Lebanon War begins: Forces under Israeli Defense Minister Ariel Sharon invade southern Lebanon in their "Operation Peace for the Galilee," eventually reaching as far north as the capital Beirut.
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galloping granny Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:32:20am |
re: #234 Killian Bundy
/did you catch the part where he promised to end weapons smuggling into Gaza?
There will be no need to smuggle weapons into Gaza. Weapons will be openly purchased. And besides, once Israel has been turned over to the "rightful owners" there will be no need for weapons. Other than an occasional knife to murder a new bride with on her wedding night because you think she might not be a virgin. . . .
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Who Watches the Watchmen? Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:32:24am |
re: #207 NJDhockeyfan
Obama's campaign has been extremely sexist and has used his male privilege to benefit from sexism in the media.
This ex-Kossack still needs some reeducation if he's going on about privilege, but he or she will learn.
BTW, President Clinton himself made his dick a topic of valid political commentary, but that is old, old news.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:32:38am |
Omaha Beach Normandy
[Link: www.normandy.worldweb.com...]
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loppyd Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:32:44am |
Bravo to Juan Williams!
It's Time for Another Obama Race Speech
To deal with this controversy effectively, Mr. Obama needs to give another speech. This time he has to admit to sins of using race for political expediency – by knowingly buying into divisive, mean messages being delivered from the pulpit. He has to say that, as a biracial young man with no community roots, attaching himself to Rev. Wright and the Trinity congregation was a shortcut to move up the ladder in the Chicago political scene. He has to call race-baiting what it is, whether it comes from a pulpit or calls itself progressive politics. And he has to challenge his supporters, especially his black base, to be honest about real problems at the heart of today's racial divide – including out-of-wedlock births, crime, drugs and a culture that devalues education while glorifying the gangster life.
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:33:03am |
re: #207 NJDhockeyfan
Good morning - what do you mean "another" one jumps ship?!
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ec marm Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:33:23am |
re: #228 Killian Bundy
Vote Obama!
/stop worrying whether or not you make enough money
Don't you know that prosperity for all is possible through legislation and taxation? It's just that simple.
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loppyd Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:34:38am |
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:35:04am |
re: #210 lawhawk Morning lawhawk - don't think the potential sale of the Raptor has much to do with Iran, as the Raptor is "just" an air superiority fighter - albeit the best one in the entire world. Don't see how it would help Israel with attacking Iran (but would clear the skies of any Migs that Iran somehow gets to Israel).
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madisonsfriend Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:35:11am |
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
Why doesn't AP just give in and put "freedom" in front of "fighter"? You know they want to- because recognizing these killers as terrorists would be wrong- and keep them from their lovefest meetings with Hamas
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Kenneth Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:36:43am |
re: #234 Killian Bundy
Well, he didn't say he would end weapons smuggling, he said he would call on Egypt to end the weapons smuggling. There is a big difference. "Calling on Egypt to end smuggling" is an easy thing to do -hell even Rice, Olmert & bush have done that. Let's do it again right now, shall we? "Hey Egypt! End that weapons smuggling, ok?" See, job done.
Actually ending weapon smuggling is another matter entirely.
Perhaps under Amir Obama, it won't be considered smuggling anymore, it will be legitimate aid.
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rightside Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:37:15am |
re: #245 loppyd
Didn't you know Juan Williams is an uncle Tom?
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:37:16am |
re: #245 loppyd
Only a black commentator can get away with that. Obama can't call him 'racist'. Juan seemed to be genuinely shocked by the anti-white rhetoric going on at Trinity Church. Obama's lame speech announcing leaving the church without denouncing any of it did not fly with him.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:37:36am |
Remarks at the U.S. Ranger Monument
Pointe du Hoc, France
June 6, 1984
One of two speeches commemorating the 40th Anniversary of the D-Day Invasion, this speech was delivered at the site of the U.S. Ranger Monument at Pointe du Hoc, France, where veterans of the Normandy Invasion, and others, had assembled for the ceremony. Later during the day, President Reagan spoke at Omaha Beach, France.
1,988 words.
[Link: www.reaganlibrary.com...]
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ec marm Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:38:17am |
re: #249 realwest
Morning lawhawk - don't think the potential sale of the Raptor has much to do with Iran, as the Raptor is "just" an air superiority fighter - albeit the best one in the entire world. Don't see how it would help Israel with attacking Iran (but would clear the skies of any Migs that Iran somehow gets to Israel).
I think there are "range" issues with the current Israeli air force. Especially if they had to fly around Iraq to get to Iran.
Maybe the IAF just needs a refueling air tanker?
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phil flavin Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:38:21am |
Call me naive, but I can not for the life me understand why Google can't honor the day of days!
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vxbush Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:38:40am |
Morning, everyone, from mid-state Illinois. I'll be lurking a lot today. I've got some weirdish work to do and I'm expecting a shipment of new toys today.
By the way, go over to Hot Air and read what Bolton says about Obama's naivety. Just wonderful.
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Kenneth Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:38:48am |
re: #245 loppyd
Obama has already addressed that issue. He said the Trinity United Church isn't worth denouncing. Move on. Forget about it. That's old politics. Time for change. Hey look a squirrel!
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:39:13am |
re: #246 realwest
Good morning - what do you mean "another" one jumps ship?!
It seems like I see diaries like this every few weeks. This is one of the better ones. :)
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loppyd Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:40:29am |
re: #252 rightside
Didn't you know Juan Williams is an uncle Tom?
And he appears on *gasp* Fox News.
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galloping granny Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:40:30am |
re: #253 redstateredneck
Only a black commentator can get away with that. Obama can't call him 'racist'. Juan seemed to be genuinely shocked by the anti-white rhetoric going on at Trinity Church. Obama's lame speech announcing leaving the church without denouncing any of it did not fly with him.
Obama's "leaving the church" was so too little-too late as to be a joke. He could not really have expected anyone with two functioning brain cells to actually consider that a sincerely move on his part. He really seems very typical of many other chronic liars I've known over the years.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:40:46am |
re: #255 ec marm
I think there are "range" issues with the current Israeli air force. Especially if they had to fly around Iraq to get to Iran.
Maybe the IAF just needs a refueling air tanker?
They have
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Killian Bundy Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:40:55am |
re: #240 cygnus
From the top of a very tall skyscraper, just so he'll know how some of the 9/11 victims felt.
[Expletive deleted] that!
/handcuff him behind his back, fit him with an oxygen mask, and drop him from 50,000 feet, give him enough time to really think about it
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:41:10am |
re: #220 Ojoe Hey Ojoe, thanks again for the MT Wilson photo!
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:41:56am |
re: #223 rightside Good morning to ya rightside - how are you doing today?
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Kenneth Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:42:23am |
re: #256 phil flavin
In the liberal/leftist mindset, all wars are bad, all sides are bad, anybody who fought in a war is either bad or a victim and certainly not something we should "honor", because honoring the fallen is bad too. Bad, bad, bad.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:42:56am |
Seems the global warming bill in the senate is dead- gee to bad.
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vxbush Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:43:23am |
re: #268 Nevergiveup
Seems the global warming bill in the senate is dead- gee to bad.
See, now that's worth partying about!
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:43:27am |
re: #232 BFSkinner
Good morning to you! How are you this fine morning?
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loppyd Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:43:30am |
re: #253 redstateredneck
Only a black commentator can get away with that. Obama can't call him 'racist'. Juan seemed to be genuinely shocked by the anti-white rhetoric going on at Trinity Church. Obama's lame speech announcing leaving the church without denouncing any of it did not fly with him.
and it did not fly with independents...a group he has lost anywhere from 9% to 11%* since the Rev. Wright controversy made headlines.
*depending on which poll you look at
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:44:15am |
re: #239 BFSkinner
Trust me... I'd rather hear a Southern accent than a Chicago accent anyday. I am from MI ... swore I'd never live back up north... and here I am. Blech.
Heh. I'd rather be on the other side of the Lake. Truth be told, I'd rather have taken the day off and be in Hart Plaza or somewhere on Woodward. :-)
It's going to be another hot day today with a chance of severe weather this afternoon/evening - what fun, oh joy.
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alegrias Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:44:28am |
re: #185 songbird
Happy Day to all Lizards!
Greetings from sunny Las Cruces, New Mexico, where it is cooler and more comfortable now than in Washington, DC and a good part of the eastern seaboard. Highs today in the lower 90s with a lovely dry heat! Don't worry. Our payback comes in July and August with very high heat, monsoons and humidity in August.
Tomorrow I take a German Exam to add a German teaching certification onto my teaching license.
The presidential campaign has fizzled to a disappointing end with candidates now 'chosen'. Can't we just vote for "none of the above"?
* * *
"...The presidential campaign has fizzled to a disappointing end with candidates now 'chosen'. Can't we just vote for "none of the above"..."
OSTRICH Head in the Sand Bird, was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Voting "None of the above" is distinctly cowardly and not helpful IF you care about our country.
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loppyd Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:45:17am |
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mudpuppy Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:45:52am |
#20
feed him nothing but MRE's and 2 canteens of water a day.
/he'll explode
Dude, make that MRE pork patties or ham slices and you got a winner!
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loppyd Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:46:30am |
re: #258 Kenneth
Obama has already addressed that issue. He said the Trinity United Church isn't worth denouncing. Move on. Forget about it. That's old politics. Time for change. Hey look a squirrel!
Newslfash to Barry-Oh.
It's. Not. Going. Away.
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alegrias Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:46:54am |
re: #193 tfc3rid
Lieberman will give the Zell Miller speech...
* * *
Lieberman may give a good speech, and is a better speech giver than McCain, BUT Zell Miller was a Marine and a former governor and has a tough guy persona to match his pro-military toughness.
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:47:02am |
re: #261 galloping granny
Obama's "leaving the church" was so too little-too late as to be a joke. He could not really have expected anyone with two functioning brain cells to actually consider that a sincerely move on his part. He really seems very typical of many other chronic liars I've known over the years.
Obama never really left his church for good either. If you look at the speech, he said he was unable to be a memeber during the campagin.
It really borders on pathological, but that's par for the course for our politicians here. Daley lies, Blagojevich lies, etc, etc. Shoot, we still can't get George Ryan to admit he had a part in the Licenses for Bribes scandal.
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rightside Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:47:40am |
re: #265 realwest
Doing ok, hoping son will get out of the hospital today. Last day of school for him today, so we have to make arrangements for him to take his final exams next week we hope.
How are you?
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razorbacker Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:47:49am |
I'm changing my mind. I'm all for universal health care. It's great!
Evidence...
The AP reported:Last month her lung cancer, in remission for about two years, was back. After her oncologist prescribed a cancer drug that could slow the cancer growth and extend her life, Wagner was notified that the Oregon Health Plan wouldn’t cover it.
It would cover comfort and care, including, if she chose, doctor-assisted suicide.
See. Those pesky drugs aren't covered, and logically why should they be since you'll only come back time and again for more.
But the treatment that solves the problem forevermore...covered.
from Surber's joint.
(I haven't used the 'tag'. If you can't tell the difference either I'm not smart enough to do it well, or you're not smart enough to get it.)
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loppyd Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:48:22am |
re: #239 BFSkinner
Trust me... I'd rather hear a Southern accent than a Chicago accent anyday. I am from MI ... swore I'd never live back up north... and here I am. Blech.
Yeah those Chicago accents are wicked annoying.
Da Bears.
LOL
/ducking
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:49:02am |
re: #267 Kenneth
In
the liberal/leftist mindset, all wars are bad, all sides are bad,
anybody who fought in a war is either bad or a victim and certainly not
something we should "honor", because honoring the fallen is bad too.
Bad, bad, bad.
Not quite. Wars involving non-Western actors are ignored (unless a Western power can be tarred) & the Communist side is always right (see support/opposition to Germany in WWII).
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vxbush Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:49:16am |
re: #279 Honorary Yooper
Obama never really left his church for good either. If you look at the speech, he said he was unable to be a memeber during the campagin.
It really borders on pathological, but that's par for the course for our politicians here. Daley lies, Blagojevich lies, etc, etc. Shoot, we still can't get George Ryan to admit he had a part in the Licenses for Bribes scandal.
Yes, and to think we once had Edgar, who wasn't that bad for a governor.
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Kenneth Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:49:45am |
re: #276 loppyd
Hey, what are you, some kind of racist?
/sarc
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cygnus Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:50:10am |
OT: Some of the taxes we pay yearly:
Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
CDL License Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Dog License Tax
Federal Income T ax & lt; BR>Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Fuel Permit Tax
Gasoline Tax
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax
Inventory Tax
IRS Interest Charges (tax on top of tax),
IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax),
Liquor Tax,
Luxury Tax,
Marriage License Tax,
Medicare Tax,
Property Tax,
Real Estate Tax,
Service charge taxes,
Social Security Tax,
Road Usage Tax (Truckers),
Sales Taxes,
Recreational Vehicle Tax,
School Tax,
State Income Tax,
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA),
Telephone Federal Excise Tax,
Telephone Federal Universal Service Fe e Tax,
Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Tax,
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax,
Telephone Recurring and Non-recurring Charges Tax,
Telephone State and Local Tax,
Telephone Usage Charge Tax,
Utility Tax,
Vehicle License Registration Tax,
Vehicle Sales Tax,
Watercraft Registration Tax,
Well Permit Tax,
Workers Compensation Tax.
Scary.
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:50:45am |
re: #284 vxbush
Yes, and to think we once had Edgar, who wasn't that bad for a governor.
Yeah. He was the most decent one of the past 30 years. I lost my respect for Big Jim Thompson when he decided to try to get George Ryan off.
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loppyd Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:51:14am |
re: #285 Kenneth
Hey, what are you, some kind of racist?
/sarc
No, just a Typical White Person.
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Kenneth Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:51:59am |
re: #283 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Very true. Any war fought against any Western power by any 'oppressed' third world guerrilla army, or terrorist group, no matter how violent, corrupt and ruthless, is always just. I forgot that nuance.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:52:12am |
re: #287 Honorary Yooper
Yeah.
He was the most decent one of the past 30 years. I lost my respect for
Big Jim Thompson when he decided to try to get George Ryan off.
Knowing what we know about Ryan's personal life, one could take that the wrong way.
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alegrias Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:52:51am |
re: #225 Kenneth
When I listened to Obama's speech to AIPAC and heard him vow to defend Israel, with an undivided capital in Jerusalem, I was shocked, I tell you, because,
"That's not the Obama I know!"
* * *
A poster earlier on this thread explains he's only showing 'personal' commitment or friendship, like he said about his grandmother before throwing her under the bus when convenient.
NOT real.
(someone translate for me please)
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:52:57am |
Good Friday morning all.
Wow, lots of good threads last night. Talk about some Air Force screw-ups!
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Killian Bundy Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:53:06am |
re: #263 Killian Bundy
[Expletive deleted] that!
/handcuff him behind his back, fit him with an oxygen mask, and drop him from 50,000 feet, give him enough time to really think about it
Kind of like the HALO jumps our SEALS do for a living only different.
/this would be a HANO jump, High Altitude No Opening
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razorbacker Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:53:10am |
Dayum. Wish I'd said it firstand, by this time next week, I will have;)...
Question: What’s the latest substantive attack from the left on Republican Sen. John McCain?Answer: His teeth are yellow. Better his teeth than his spine.
Suber, again.
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:53:40am |
re: #286 cygnus
And a bureaucracy to collect and manage each one.
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:53:50am |
re: #291 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
You're thinking of the other Ryan, the one that was running for Senate in '04 (Jeri Ryan's husband).
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:53:59am |
re: #293 Ward Cleaver
Good Friday morning all.
Wow, lots of good threads last night. Talk about some Air Force screw-ups!
You try getting everything right with only 9 hours sleep a day!
/I kid, I kid.
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:55:02am |
re: #282 loppyd
Yeah those Chicago accents are wicked annoying.
Da Bears.
LOL
/ducking
I like Chicago accents. Chi-CAAA-go.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:55:04am |
re: #299 Ward Cleaver
Whoops! My apologies to Mr. Ryan.
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rightside Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:55:35am |
re: #276 loppyd
Not for us, but the LLL will eat up his patented "Obamanswers"
1. "I'm shocked, shocked I tell you! That's not the [fill in the blank] I knew"
2. "You can't ask me about middle name/associates/grandmother/etc., you're a racist!"
3. "How does that help my children?"
4. "That's just a distraction"
5. "Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?"
Feel free to add others...
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alegrias Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:55:45am |
re: #234 Killian Bundy
/did you catch the part where he promised to end weapons smuggling into Gaza?
* * *
'Cause he'll supply them above-board! The notion folks should have to tunnel when they can drive on through, with Uncle Sam's blessing, has to change, and it will.
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madisonsfriend Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:55:52am |
re: #286 cygnus
You pay a marriage license tax every year? Now that is scary!
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:56:14am |
re: #300 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
You try getting everything right with only 9 hours sleep a day!
/I kid, I kid.
My brother was in the Army, and he never misses an opportunity to crack on the AF, and their lack of discipline.
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opnion Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:56:35am |
Obama's idea of fighting the War on Teerror is to signal the enemy in Iraq that we will retreat.
You know, so that he can concentrate on Afghanistan.
Obama will not fight Muslims.
He will apologize to and accpomodate them
:
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Occasional Reader Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:57:05am |
re: #288 loppyd
No, just a Typical White Person.
I *so* hope that during the debates, someone - either McCain, or a moderator - will ask Obama to define what a "typical white person" is. Perhaps then ask him if there are "typical" blacks, asians, latinos, and what their respective attributes are.
Good morning.
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:57:10am |
re: #280 rightside I'm doing ok, thanks - why was your son in the hospital and do you anticipate any flak over make-up exams?
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:57:45am |
re: #311 Occasional Reader
I *so* hope that during the debates, someone - either McCain, or a moderator - will ask Obama to define what a "typical white person" is. Perhaps then ask him if there are "typical" blacks, asians, latinos, and what their respective attributes are.
Good morning.
Ooh, good question. He'd never answer it, but good question.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:58:06am |
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lawhawk Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:58:17am |
re: #249 realwest
The Raptor isn't just an air superiority fighter. It can pound the mud just as surely as any other front line fighter can these days.
It's designed to take the JDAM and SDBs, which means that it can go wherever it wants, whenever it wants, and attack targets undetected. In that respect, it's like the F117, except it can go faster and can defend itself from air targets.
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madisonsfriend Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:58:23am |
re: #256 phil flavin
You mean honor D-Day instead of the birthday of a Spanish painter of the 1600s? I don't understand the problem
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:58:48am |
re: #282 loppyd Well at least they don't have to "Pak the Cahr" to watch Da Bears! LOL!
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Tigger2005 Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:58:50am |
re: #245 loppyd
Bravo to Juan Williams!
And if Obama says any of these things, so what? Why support someone based on what he says, when he has done nothing to show that he believes any of it, and in any case has changed his stories so many times his head is spinning like Linda Blair's?
Boy.
Wolf.
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 6:59:23am |
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songbird Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:00:25am |
re: #273 alegrias
* * *
"...The presidential campaign has fizzled to a disappointing end with candidates now 'chosen'. Can't we just vote for "none of the above"..."OSTRICH Head in the Sand Bird, was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Voting "None of the above" is distinctly cowardly and not helpful IF you care about our country.
I believe our nominating process failed us...
I'll still vote, and we are actively involved in the process - my husband is a local candidate, but we are both very disappointed in the choices this time around. How weak and poor our choices were! I'll probably write in my personal choice.
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:01:15am |
re: #281 razorbacker
Morning! Is the Oregon Health Plan a State Run version of what Obamerama has in plan for us, or is it a private plan that uses that name (down here in NC, Aetna Health Care called it The North Carolina Health Care Plan)?
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Occasional Reader Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:02:15am |
re: #316 lawhawk
In that respect, it's like the F117, except it can go faster and can defend itself from air targets.
Actually, it's significantly stealthier than the F-117 (and more agile than the F-16).
Very heartening that they're considering selling it to Israel. The Israelis, unfortunately, are gonna need 'em.
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rightside Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:02:34am |
re: #312 realwest
Spent all day in the ER to find he had appendicits, and they cut on him that night late. His recovery was complicated...seems something they were giving him made him vomit constantly. They stopped giving him everything, he's eating now, and seems completely normal except for high blood pressure.
I have emailed his guidance counselor and teachers, they just need to know when he will be out, so they can know when to administer the tests for him. They said no problem.
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razorbacker Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:02:46am |
Yes, please. I would like a bed near the window.
During a visit to the mental asylum, a visitor asked the Director how he determines whether a patient should be institutionalized.
'Well,' said the Director, 'we fill up a bathtub, then we offer a teaspoon, a teacup and a bucket to the patient and ask him or her to empty the bathtub.'
'Oh, I understand,' said the visitor. 'A normal person would use the bucket because it's bigger than the spoon or the teacup.'
'No.' said the Director, 'A normal person would pull the plug. Do you want a bed near the window?'
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:02:49am |
re: #294 Killian Bundy
"HANO jump" ROFL! Good morning Killian!
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:03:18am |
re: #321 songbird
I'll probably write in my personal choice.
It may make you feel better, but you might as well vote for Obama.
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Occasional Reader Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:03:36am |
re: #321 songbird
I'll probably write in my personal choice.
I am not trying to offend, but... I think that's childish, to be perfectly frank. I mean, why not write in Ronald Reagan, while you're at it? Or Abraham Lincoln? We have the choices that we have. Choose as best you can.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:03:45am |
re: #323 Occasional Reader
Actually, it's significantly stealthier than the F-117 (and more agile than the F-16).
Very heartening that they're considering selling it to Israel. The Israelis, unfortunately, are gonna need 'em.
I'm going to the Hampton Roads Air Show on the 21st. They're going to have an F-22 demonstration - can't wait to see that!
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rightside Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:04:06am |
re: #315 NJDhockeyfan
OMG! I swear I don't go to that place! I just know the mentality of the kostards.
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razorbacker Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:04:14am |
re: #322 realwest
The former, as I understand it. But I'm open to correction as required.
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guzziguy Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:04:17am |
re: #317 madisonsfriend
You mean honor D-Day instead of the birthday of a Spanish painter of the 1600s? I don't understand the problem
Google is no longer my default search engine.
/tiny little voice of one
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Occasional Reader Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:04:56am |
re: #319 Tigger2005
And if Obama says any of these things, so what?
Exactly. He sat in that church for 20 years; nothing he can say now can change that.
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Kenneth Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:05:20am |
re: #292 alegrias
We have a whole series of Obama back flips on various issues now. Unlike Kerry's famous flip-flopping, which was the usual garden variety political opportunism and lack of principles, Obama's is different. Obama is a classic narcissist.
Obama really believes it, every lie is true to him while he is saying it, because it is useful to him. It is useful to him that you believe it. In other words, if you believe his lies, you are useful to him. You are the change you believe in. People who are no longer useful to him are disposable. His grandmother, his Muslim childhood, William Ayers, Louis Farrakhan, Rev. Wright & his Church, Jerusalem, Tony Rezko. All of them served Obama's needs for a while. When they became "a distraction" from the one true purpose (serving Obama) they became disposable. They don't exist anymore to Obama.
I can't wait till the Michelle 'Whitey tape' comes out. I'm especially looking forward to his "this isn't the Michelle I knew" speech.
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:05:59am |
re: #311 Occasional Reader Good morning O.R.! I hope they have debates where the moderators only function is to keep track of the time each candidate speaks - LOVE to hear McCain ask Obama two questions no one could have expected and let the American People see what an empty suit and empty head he really is.
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songbird Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:06:22am |
re: #328 redstateredneck
It may make you feel better, but you might as well vote for Obama.
re: #329 Occasional Reader
I am not trying to offend, but... I think that's childish, to be perfectly frank. I mean, why not write in Ronald Reagan, while you're at it? Or Abraham Lincoln? We have the choices that we have. Choose as best you can.
With as weak as the Republican party is now, 4 years of Obama may be what we need to shake the party back to it's true principals. I'm disappointed that we've drifted so far from the "contract for America" principals and the acceptance of fiscal irresponsibility.
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loppyd Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:06:25am |
re: #311 Occasional Reader
I *so* hope that during the debates, someone - either McCain, or a moderator - will ask Obama to define what a "typical white person" is. Perhaps then ask him if there are "typical" blacks, asians, latinos, and what their respective attributes are.
Good morning.
Don't hold your breath.
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rightside Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:06:40am |
re: #333 guzziguy
Whom do you use now? Any other inputs from Lizardia?
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alegrias Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:06:52am |
re: #256 phil flavin
Call me naive, but I can not for the life me understand why Google can't honor the day of days!
* * *
To internationalists, it's just another day.
They've rewritten history, so D-Day is probably just another unneccesary intervention.
Wasn't that Spielberg movie's point of view dedicated to just finding one Private Ryan, not necessarily liberating a continent from an evil empire of totalitarians?
/words like evil empire, totalitarian are so judgmental of others' motives--all we need is change without preconditions and we'll get along.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:07:10am |
re: #327 buzzsawmonkey
re: #267 Kenneth
re: #283 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
But the Communists were on our side in WWII--after the Soviet Union was invaded.
That's my point. Up to the German invasion of Russia in June 1941, the international left was opposed to entry into WWII. The offical propaganda line from Moscow after the Non-Aggression Pact was that the Nazis were fighting Western Imperialism. Once the Soviets were attacked, then the left saw the Nazis as the enemy.
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cygnus Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:07:10am |
re: #154 jcbunga
Today is D-Day. Let's remember. If you haven't been to the WW2 Memorial in DC yet, try to go. There's always a vet there with family, and a crowd surrounding them shaking hands.
Here's FDR's prayer broadcast to the nation that day, and a link to the original recording (Amazing how leaders and Democrats have changed):
[Link: www.historyplace.com...]My Fellow Americans:
Last night, when I spoke with you about the fall of Rome, I knew at that moment that troops of the United States and our Allies were crossing the Channel in another and greater operation. It has come to pass with success thus far.
And so, in this poignant hour, I ask you to join with me in prayer:
Almighty God: Our sons, pride of our nation, this day have set upon a mighty endeavor, a struggle to preserve our Republic, our religion, and our civilization, and to set free a suffering humanity.
Lead them straight and true; give strength to their arms, stoutness to their hearts, steadfastness in their faith.
They will need Thy blessings. Their road will be long and hard. For the enemy is strong. He may hurl back our forces. Success may not come with rushing speed, but we shall return again and again; and we know that by Thy grace, and by the righteousness of our cause, our sons will triumph.
They will be sore tried, by night and by day, without rest -- until the victory is won. The darkness will be rent by noise and flame. Men's souls will be shaken with the violences of war.
For these men are lately drawn from the ways of peace. They fight not for the lust of conquest. They fight to end conquest. They fight to liberate. They fight to let justice arise, and tolerance and goodwill among all Thy people. They yearn but for the end of battle, for their return to the haven of home.
Some will never return. Embrace these, Father, and receive them, Thy heroic servants, into Thy kingdom.
And for us at home -- fathers, mothers, children, wives, sisters, and brothers of brave men overseas, whose thoughts and prayers are ever with them -- help us, Almighty God, to rededicate ourselves in renewed faith in Thee in this hour of great sacrifice.
Many people have urged that I call the nation into a single day of special prayer. But because the road is long and the desire is great, I ask that our people devote themselves in a continuance of prayer. As we rise to each new day, and again when each day is spent, let words of prayer be on our lips, invoking Thy help to our efforts.
Give us strength, too -- strength in our daily tasks, to redouble the contributions we make in the physical and the material support of our armed forces.
And let our hearts be stout, to wait out the long travail, to bear sorrows that may come, to impart our courage unto our sons wheresoever they may be.
And, O Lord, give us faith. Give us faith in Thee; faith in our sons; faith in each other; faith in our united crusade. Let not the keenness of our spirit ever be dulled. Let not the impacts of temporary events, of temporal matters of but fleeting moment -- let not these deter us in our unconquerable purpose.
With Thy blessing, we shall prevail over the unholy forces of our enemy. Help us to conquer the apostles of greed and racial arrogances. Lead us to the saving of our country, and with our sister nations into a world unity that will spell a sure peace -- a peace invulnerable to the schemings of unworthy men. And a peace that will let all of men live in freedom, reaping the just rewards of their honest toil.
Thy will be done, Almighty God.
Amen.
Franklin D. Roosevelt - June 6, 1944
Wow, the ACLU would have kittens if the President said something like this. Along with most of the Democrap party.
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tfc3rid Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:07:22am |
re: #335 hydrocarbon hank
Will BIG BROWN take the Triple Crown?
I say no... He has a cracked hoof and it's going to be 95 degrees tomorrow afternoon AND of course, it's a mile and a half...
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loppyd Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:07:23am |
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:07:26am |
re: #335 hydrocarbon hank
Will BIG BROWN take the Triple Crown?
I hope. I heard he had a hoof problem. I certainly hope he's fit to race and doesn't get injured.
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newsjunkie_ky Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:07:55am |
re: #335 hydrocarbon hank
Will BIG BROWN take the Triple Crown?
Yes.
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:08:13am |
re: #335 hydrocarbon hank
Will BIG BROWN take the Triple Crown?
Maybe, but I don't want to see any comparions to Secretariat unless Big Brown is 32 lengths ahead of the 2nd place finisher.
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:08:29am |
re: #339 songbird
In a pre 9/11 world, I may have gone along with that, but too much is at stake now.
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:08:49am |
re: #341 rightside
Whom do you use now? Any other inputs from Lizardia?
I use AltaVista. It's the first search engine, started in 1995, which is when I started using it.
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Occasional Reader Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:09:08am |
re: #338 realwest
Good morning O.R.! I hope they have debates where the moderators only function is to keep track of the time each candidate speaks
I have seen some of the "moderator asks questions" formats that went off pretty well. The advantage is that the moderator is "neutral", so can deliver the question without being seen as simply picking a fight. I recall Charlene Hunter-Something in the 2004 VP debates asking John Edwards, "if you and Senator Kerry had been in office since 2000, is it the case that Saddam Hussein would still be in power today?" Heh.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:09:46am |
re: #342 alegrias
* * *
To internationalists, it's just another day.They've rewritten history, so D-Day is probably just another unneccesary intervention.
Wasn't
that Spielberg movie's point of view dedicated to just finding one
Private Ryan, not necessarily liberating a continent from an evil
empire of totalitarians?/words like evil empire, totalitarian are so judgmental of others' motives--all we need is change without preconditions and we'll get along.
"Saving Private Ryan was the only good thing to come out of the war" (quoting from memory)
How I hate that movie - and everyone I know thinks I should love it!
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Occasional Reader Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:10:03am |
re: #339 songbird
In that case, please feel free to write in Ronald Reagan, or stay home.
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:10:12am |
re: #324 rightside Whoa, glad to hear your son is ok and that there's no problem with the make-up exams.
I wonder if they gave your son too much anesthesia? (iirc it's the most common cause of post surgery throwing up).
Did they do the operation the old fashioned way or laproscopically? If started as lapro and then had to go old fashioned, too much anesthesia is the likely cause of the nausea.
In any event I'm glad he's gonna be ok.
BTW, how old is he?
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JammieWearingFool Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:10:38am |
re: #347 ploome hineni
I believe Charles had a post on that a couple weeks ago.
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razorbacker Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:11:17am |
re: #339 songbird
With as weak as the Republican party is now, 4 years of Obama may be what we need to shake the party back to it's true principals. I'm disappointed that we've drifted so far from the "contract for America" principals and the acceptance of fiscal irresponsibility.
Frankly, I agree that the Republican party is 'drowning'.
I'm just not so sure that America can hold it's collective breath for 4 years whilst waiting for the lifeguard.
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songbird Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:11:19am |
re: #351 redstateredneck
In a pre 9/11 world, I may have gone along with that, but too much is at stake now.
I totally understand. It would be good to know who McCain will choose for his VP. That would make a difference for me.
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rightside Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:11:47am |
re: #346 loppyd
They were able to do it laparoscopically, but the appendix burst as it was being pulled through the tiny incision, so mass doses of antibiotics were administered to fend off sepsis. It was more scary for his recovery than the surgery. It took 45 mins for the actual surgery, and 5 days before he stopped vomiting.
Thank you for your thoughts. :^)
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:12:54am |
re: #360 rightside
How awful! Prayers for a full and quick recovery.
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songbird Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:12:57am |
re: #361 redstateredneck
Who do you like for VP?
I'd prefer Huckabee (there, I've just told the world how conservative I am)
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:13:02am |
re: #350 Honorary Yooper
Maybe, but I don't want to see any comparions to Secretariat unless Big Brown is 32 lengths ahead of the 2nd place finisher.
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ciaospirit Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:13:09am |
June 6, 1944. Let us never forget.
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Occasional Reader Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:13:27am |
re: #354 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
"Saving Private Ryan was the only good thing to come out of the war" (quoting from memory)
How I hate that movie - and everyone I know thinks I should love it!
I agree that was a lousy line, but I like the movie, and give Spielberg something of a pass on that line. Given Speilberg's work in documenting the stories of Shoah survivors, I do not believe in any way he fails to understand the righteousness of defeating fascism.
And the LAST dramatic line in the movie conveys a rather conservative message: "Earn this." That message is of course, to us.
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:13:38am |
re: #339 songbird
With as weak as the Republican party is now, 4 years of Obama may be what we need to shake the party back to it's true principals. I'm disappointed that we've drifted so far from the "contract for America" principals and the acceptance of fiscal irresponsibility.
Then saddle yourself with what an Obama presidency will bring. As for me, I cannot stomach even the thought of a Chicago Machine HACK in White House letting the Illinois Combine control not just the city, not just the county, not just the state, but also the Federal government.
A vote for John McCain for me is a vote against the Illinois Combine and their insidious brand of corruption.
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tfc3rid Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:13:39am |
re: #359 songbird
I totally understand. It would be good to know who McCain will choose for his VP. That would make a difference for me.
In a month or so you will know... There is a lot of time...
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hydrocarbon hank Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:13:44am |
re: #345 tfc3rid
I say no... He has a cracked hoof and it's going to be 95 degrees tomorrow afternoon AND of course, it's a mile and a half...
I'm worried about the cracked hoof - it's an interesting injury, I had a mare with a crack near the same location and she never missed a beat. I am concerned, his trainer seems to be somewhat of a nut.
In good health, the distance won't be a problem. If he runs a nice relaxed race like he did at the Belmont, there isn't a horse that can touch him.
...but horses are just like people, they have good and bad days - I hope he has a good one!
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kulhwch Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:13:48am |
re: #31 Lucius Septimius
"Wicked Nick" is how he's referred to in our house; my Lovely Bride is a Machiavelli scholar, which means dinner time is always an adventure.
Could be worse worse ... she could be into Lucretia Borgia ...
}:) ["Honey, what kind of soup is this?" "Just shut up & eat it!"]
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:14:11am |
re: #364 songbird
I'd prefer Huckabee (there, I've just told the world how conservative I am)
I'm hoping Romney.
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tfc3rid Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:14:27am |
re: #364 songbird
I'd prefer Huckabee (there, I've just told the world how conservative I am)
That's not THAT Conservative...
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CoCo Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:14:40am |
As a two-time cancer survivor, I have to refute some of the earlier comments here in regard to the Relay for Life Logo...
For those of you who have not heard of the American Cancer Society Relay For Life , it is an overnight event in which team members take turns walking, strolling or even running around the track. People often ask why Relay For Life is held through the night. The event is held overnight to signify the fact that cancer never sleeps. If you look at the Relay For Life logo, you will see a symbol of a moon and a sun. This represents a day in the life of a cancer survivor, but not just one day. It represents the journey of a cancer survivor from the time of diagnosis until the time of recovery. The overnight event has the same symbolization. The sun is up at the start of the event, it goes down for a dark period, representing the diagnosis and fight, and then rises again in the morning, providing hope and the promise of recovery.
Some times a moon is just a moon.
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Occasional Reader Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:15:16am |
re: #324 rightside
Sorry to hear about your son's travails; glad he is okay now.
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Nevergiveup Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:17:01am |
re: #367 Occasional Reader
I agree that was a lousy line, but I like the movie, and give Spielberg something of a pass on that line. Given Speilberg's work in documenting the stories of Shoah survivors, I do not believe in any way he fails to understand the righteousness of defeating fascism.
And the LAST dramatic line in the movie conveys a rather conservative message: "Earn this." That message is of course, to us.
To bad he has gone over to the dark side
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songbird Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:18:26am |
re: #374 tfc3rid
That's not THAT Conservative...
I'm pretty conservative, but I like the preventative healthcare idea. And both my husband and I have a lot of compassion for the poor.
There was an article in the Reader Arcticles about Huckabee that was pretty reasonable...here is the link.
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alegrias Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:18:50am |
re: #310 opnion
Obama's idea of fighting the War on Teerror is to signal the enemy in Iraq that we will retreat.
You know, so that he can concentrate on Afghanistan.
Obama will not fight Muslims.
He will apologize to and accpomodate them
:
* * *
As Hillary Clinton helpfully pointed out, the junior senator from Illinois has not held a meeting on Afghanistan though it is his responsibility as chair of some Senate committee to DO SOMETHING about Afghanistan.
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:19:31am |
re: #375 CoCo
As a two-time cancer survivor, I have to refute some of the earlier comments here in regard to the Relay for Life Logo...
Some times a moon is just a moon.
Yep.
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cygnus Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:19:51am |
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:20:05am |
re: #383 alegrias
* * *
As
Hillary Clinton helpfully pointed out, the junior senator from Illinois
has not held a meeting on Afghanistan though it is his responsibility as chair of some Senate committee to DO SOMETHING about Afghanistan.
As soon as he gets some Arab speakers on his staff, he will!
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aboo-Hoo-Hoo Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:20:17am |
re: #347 ploome hineni
WHAT IS GOING ON HERE
We're beginning a very unfavorable transition from the 'end of the beginning' of this War, to the 'beginning of the end.'
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Kenneth Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:21:26am |
re: #372 buzzsawmonkey
Very incisive posts. Everything is personal to Obama, his policies are merely reflections of his personal qualities. He promises to negotiate with Iran, Syria & North Korea, without preconditions, because he is convinced in his own personal ability to convince people.
It's another sign of his Narcissistic Personality Disorder. I keep harping on about this because such a man can do a huge amount of damage to the country & the world.
Obama is mentally unfit for office.
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rightside Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:22:01am |
re: #356 realwest
Just received word from 3 of his 4 teachers now, he's been exempted from taking his finals.
He was "lapped" completely, so only under anesthesia for 45 minutes give or take.
Not sure we will ever know, but once they stopped everything, his vomiting stopped and he was able to eat solid food and keep it down. he is 1000% better than he has been doing. We're all champing at the bit to get him home. He turned 17 in April.
Thanks to all the other Lizards for their prayers and wishes, truly appreciated!
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tfc3rid Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:22:19am |
re: #380 ploome hineni
Ploome... I agree... In reading all about it today in depth, I am apalled that he actually received this type of 'treatment'...
This is all because of the media... If the government was not so damn scared of the media propaganda, they would have already had this ass wipte tried and well tortured already...
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alegrias Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:22:28am |
re: #321 songbird
I believe our nominating process failed us...
I'll still vote, and we are actively involved in the process - my husband is a local candidate, but we are both very disappointed in the choices this time around. How weak and poor our choices were! I'll probably write in my personal choice.
* * *
That nominating process horse is out of the barn.
Yes by all means, vote your "personal" choice for someone less "weak & poor" than the only person standing between our country and one inexperienced dangerous empty vessel.
GAZE, my "personal" choice
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Occasional Reader Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:22:28am |
re: #385 cygnus
They spend 400,000 pounds on that? Yuck.
It would make a wonderful logo for "London during the Blitz".
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:22:29am |
re: #385 cygnus
They spend 400,000 pounds on that? Yuck.
"A modern take on the Olympic colours" WTF? It's red & gold - them's the colors of Communist China, not the Olympics! FFS, Homer Simpson's "Springy" mascot is better than that!
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tfc3rid Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:23:19am |
re: #382 songbird
Huckeabee may be socially conservative to some degree but he is most definitely not economically conservative...
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rightside Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:23:29am |
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loppyd Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:23:38am |
re: #360 rightside
Yikes. Happy to hear he's feeling better now and come home
and get spoiled. :~)
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cygnus Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:23:39am |
re: #188 Ojoe
Some of our European friends do remember.
The people who see and make a difference are not the majority.
But the remnant, so to speak, will carry the day in the future too.
Merci beaucoup.
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razorbacker Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:23:57am |
re: #382 songbird
I'm pretty conservative, but I like the preventative healthcare idea. And both my husband and I have a lot of compassion for the poor.
There was an article in the Reader Arcticles about Huckabee that was pretty reasonable...here is the link.
'Twas Huckabee that insisted that illegal aliens be covered under Arkansas' taxpayer funded plan for women and children (men need not apply).
'Twas Huckabee that insisted that illegal aliens be granted resident Arkansan status (and the lower tuition rates) for admission to Arkansas' colleges.
'Twas Huckabee that pardoned the murderer who went to MO and murdered again.
I'm not complaining. I'm just saying.
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:24:10am |
re: #344 cygnus I briefly mentioned that today was the 64th anniversary of D-Day when I first came on board this morning.
But I don't think any of US can really appreciate what those brave men went through for all of us.
None of us - not me, not TFK, not any other combat veteran of any other war - none of us, even if they've seen The Longest Day or Private Ryan.
So many troops were killed in the water and so many more died on the beaches (and that's not including those who were "just" wounded) so that we and Europe could enjoy the fruits of Freedom.
And I'm fucking PISSED OFF again at Google. And at everyone else who won't take the crappy one minute of their lives today, to pause and remember that day and those incredible sacrifices those brave men made.
And it's funny - I recently saw a discovery channel or one of those (maybe National Geographic) do a special on some of the few oldtimers left who went back to Omaha Beach and how well they were treated by the French people from the villages and towns around that area and those schoolkids, who spend two entire days studying the history of D-Day, and then I see Google, again, and I just get pissed off again.
Those who did and those who directly benefited, like those French school children haven't and will never forget that day.
And neither should any of us.
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GreenBear Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:24:11am |
I don't who said it but it was always one of my favorite sayings, "Evil Prevails When Good Men Do Nothing".
I always figured that's driving force beneath LGF, is that we are all here doing what little we can to fight back the tide of evil and to support those who do far more in some very inhospitable places like Afghanistan and Iraq. Some here have done more in the past and some will do more in the future. I'm sure some with us here now will evenually even sacrifice all to combat evil in the world.
Some seem to think that a small effort isn't worth making. If all you do is discuss fighting evil, then do it and support those actually fight it physically. If you don't have the ability, through age, mental or physical condition, or even simply the courage, to volunteer for the good fight, support those who have taken up the banner. Welcome troops at the airport, serve in the USO, donate care packages. No effort is too small but don't expect brass bands.
Make your views widely and unashamedly known. Too many people don't want to upset anybody, so they keep quiet. Well, sometimes it takes a little shaking up for some people to begin to think about what's true and good. I have found that many younger men and women absorb the MSM position as "the Truth" without question, perhaps on a subconscious level. Every once in a while, it's good for them to have some old fart challenge the perfect "Obama World" that has everybody getting along if they would only have a cookie and talk. They need to be told that there are many people in this world that don't want, or even like, your cookies and they'll kill you so can't give cookies to anybody else.
It is nice to get along with people and be pleasant. But I have also found that the quality of my life is often measured by how pissed-off my enemies are at any particular time. I figure if they are upset, maybe I've done something right.
That's my Friday two cents. I feel much better.
Have a good weekend and don't forget to fight the forces of evil.
GreenBear
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Tigger2005 Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:24:48am |
re: #334 Occasional Reader
Exactly. He sat in that church for 20 years; nothing he can say now can change that.
He's just so pathetically transparent, so empty, so lightweight, such a human pretzel, an unprincipled, cheap, slick, manipulative liar with a smarmy grin. He puts Jim Bob the local used-car salesman to shame. Hell, he puts politicians to shame. I have never quite seen his like. Anyone who believes he means any conservative-sounding thing he says is a naive fool, when they are so clearly belied by his actions and associations throughout his entire post-scholastic social, religious, and political life. He disgusts me.
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songbird Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:25:23am |
re: #395 tfc3rid
But he does have successful governing experience and would provide balance to a McCain ticket.
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Tigger2005 Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:26:47am |
re: #339 songbird
With as weak as the Republican party is now, 4 years of Obama may be what we need to shake the party back to it's true principals. I'm disappointed that we've drifted so far from the "contract for America" principals and the acceptance of fiscal irresponsibility.
I'd suggest reading Thomas Sowell's latest. If Iran gets the bomb on Obama's watch, everything changes.
Everything.
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loppyd Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:26:50am |
re: #395 tfc3rid
Huckeabee may be socially conservative to some degree but he is most definitely not economically conservative...
He raised taxes while Gov. of Arkansas.
Mitt vetoed every tax increase that came across his desk while Gov. of Mass.
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hydrocarbon hank Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:27:31am |
6/5/2008 - 9:17 AM
NYMEX Crude Future - $133.95/bbl
NYMEX Henry Hub Natural Gas - $12.77/MMBtu
/A special thanks to all of the 2008 candidates - their hack energy policies will push the prices to new records.
Prices will SOAR! In infuriates me to hear John McCain speak about his "energy policy". Our poiticians are foolish if they believe cap-and-trade, etc. will do anything but drive prices higher.
Call your Senator and Rep. today!
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rightside Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:27:58am |
re: #398 loppyd
LOL, I am rolling out the riding lawn mower onto the grass so he sees that when we roll up the driveway!
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alegrias Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:28:41am |
re: #372 buzzsawmonkey
re: #292 alegrias
re: #319 Tigger2005
re: #336 Kenneth
Forgive, please, my post-pimping, but I invite you all to look at ##79 and 107 above, and follow the link in #79 to #635 in the prior thread, for a discussion of Obama substitution of personalized (not personal) and racial platitudes for anything remotely resembling policy.
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Thanks BUZZ, your posts were EXCELLENT pointing out the narcissicism of "personalized" feelings & emotions versus America's strategic POLICY INTERESTs.
Some of us are so wrapped around personal pet peeves, our favorite single issues, we will IGNORE our country's critical needs.
Voting is a civic duty to lead our country, not dreaming up personalized fictitious companion--but that's just my idea.
It's for commander in chief, not our personal "Saviour" and friend.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:29:22am |
re: #410 Iron Fist
,
See
no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil. There are no terrorists in Gitmo.
Khalid Sheik Mohammed was in Gitmo. Therefore KSM isn't a terrorist.You have to love what passes for logic on the L³eft. Of course, not even they really believe
it. The L³eft support the enemies of America. It wouldn't surprise me
if Obama has "Al Qaeda Forever" tattooed on his ass. So it is certainly
no surprise that Yee is getting a speaking role at the Convention. TheBadMean Old USA is being harsh with the non-Terrorists at Gitmo will probably be a major theme for the Democrats.
Unfortunately, even McCain wants to close down Gitmo.
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cygnus Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:29:52am |
re: #252 rightside
Didn't you know Juan Williams is an uncle Tom?
Along with Bill Cosby. Horrible.
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songbird Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:30:18am |
re: #407 loppyd
re: #407 loppyd
He raised taxes while Gov. of Arkansas.
Mitt vetoed every tax increase that came across his desk while Gov. of Mass.
Mitt sure raised a lot of Fees, though!
Face it, they both raised taxes. Huckabee raised taxes for a purpose and the goal - roads and infrastructure - vastly improved the economy of the state of Arkansas.
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tfc3rid Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:30:28am |
re: #405 songbird
But he does have successful governing experience and would provide balance to a McCain ticket.
I can see Huckabee definitely being someone whom conservatives could get a little excited about if he were on the ticket...
I think the ticket comes down to Huck or Romney... And Romney's speech at the Conservative Conference in DC where he bailed out was one that I think most of us saw and said 'Now that's a REAL conservative'
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jamgarr Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:30:42am |
Re-reading Stephen Ambrose's D-Day. Highly recommended.
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loppyd Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:30:45am |
realwest
I hate Google too. For the reasons you stated and more.
As you know, I have a gmail account which we have used here at work since our server crapped out and we lost Outlook. It sucks! It's like email on acid. I'm trying to convince the powers (AKA my big brother) that be to get rid of it, but it would be a huge PITA for him. I'm willing to suck it up if he is.
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Karridine Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:31:01am |
re: #186 LittleRed1
I certainly hope you RECORD as much of that as you can some weekend soon, as unobtrusively as possible, with as much detail as they'll share...
"For posterity, Guys! Just keep talking- Hey, weren't you at Market Garden?"
Let it roll, Red...
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loppyd Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:32:31am |
...as of this moment gmail is unavailable.
suck. ass.
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Occasional Reader Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:32:58am |
The only reason we had D-Day at all is because Churchill (at the behest of the joos) forced Hitler to go to war. Haven't you all read Pat Buchanan?
/
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tfc3rid Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:33:27am |
re: #420 loppyd
...as of this moment gmail is unavailable.
suck. ass.
I don't like how gmail caches a lot of things... Sites you are looking at, etc... Too much information there...
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cygnus Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:33:35am |
re: #263 Killian Bundy
[Expletive deleted] that!
/handcuff him behind his back, fit him with an oxygen mask, and drop him from 50,000 feet, give him enough time to really think about it
You're right; that's a much better idea! You'd have to put him in a heated suit, though, or he'd be a human popsicle by the time he got to 20,000 feet.
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loppyd Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:33:40am |
re: #421 Occasional Reader
The only reason we had D-Day at all is because Churchill (at the behest of the joos) forced Hitler to go to war. Haven't you all read Pat Buchanan?
/
Like I said yesterday lock him in the attic with Obama's uncle.
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:33:45am |
re: #399 cygnus And thank you for that one, too! Just great photo and caption.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:34:43am |
re: #421 Occasional Reader
The only reason we had D-Day at all is because Churchill (at the
behest of the joos) forced Hitler to go to war. Haven't you all read
Pat Buchanan?/
Hmm. Spielberg - a Joo - made a lot of money off of his D-Day movie! Coincidence?
We're through the looking glass here, people.
/obviously
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Kenneth Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:34:49am |
re: #389 rightside
Best wishes to you & your son. It's so painful being a parent when one's child is sick.
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alegrias Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:35:31am |
re: #338 realwest
Good morning O.R.! I hope they have debates where the moderators only function is to keep track of the time each candidate speaks - LOVE to hear McCain ask Obama two questions no one could have expected and let the American People see what an empty suit and empty head he really is.
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Hi Real!
The NOTION Americans will see an empty suit and inexperience, when that is exactly what they WANT in their "change agent" this year, well, don't get your hopes up.
All these supposedly secular people fainting screaming panting in the Che t-shirts, UN reports in hand, global testing the waters he walks on, means reality is not important to them, only feelings & image.
Image & feelings uber alles.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:36:00am |
re: #426 songbird
And the Dems would have a heyday if Mitt were in the VP slot.
They'll have a heyday with whomever McCain picks as VP.
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loppyd Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:36:09am |
re: #422 tfc3rid
I don't like how gmail caches a lot of things... Sites you are looking at, etc... Too much information there...
That is one of the reasons that may sway my brother, especially in the business we are in and communications we have with clients via email.
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:36:26am |
re: #402 GreenBear Hey! You know y'all should do more posting out here! Seriously, good post and we could use more like them.
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Occasional Reader Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:37:09am |
re: #426 songbird
And the Dems would have a heyday if Mitt were in the VP slot.
Huckabee, of course, is entirely above criticism...
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:37:15am |
re: #426 songbird
And the Dems would have a heyday if Mitt were in the VP slot.
The Dems will try to have a heyday with whomever.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:37:32am |
re: #433 Ben Hur
Boker Tov
No "effin?" this morining?
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songbird Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:37:32am |
re: #430 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
That's true! Well enough of this! There is diversity among the residents of Lizardia!
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Kenneth Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:37:48am |
re: #421 Occasional Reader
I always thought D-Day was a distraction from the real War on Dive Bombers. Japan attacked American in Pearl Harbor, so why did FDR send US troops to attack Germans in France? It makes no strategic sense. FDR lied, people died.
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Occasional Reader Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:38:03am |
re: #433 Ben Hur
Boker Tov
Which you can't spell without "voter", I note in passing.
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Occasional Reader Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:39:27am |
re: #439 Kenneth
so why did FDR send US troops to attack Germans in France?
Oh, but you forget, even before that we invaded AFRICA. FDR was just waging a racist war on persons of color.
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tfc3rid Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:40:01am |
re: #431 loppyd
That is one of the reasons that may sway my brother, especially in the business we are in and communications we have with clients via email.
I would get away from it...
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ggt Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:40:10am |
Good Morning Lizards! It's bright and humid in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland this morning.
How are you-all and what are we talking about?
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Occasional Reader Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:40:17am |
re: #430 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
They'll have a heyday with whomever McCain picks as VP.
By the way, folks, it's "have a field day", not "have a heyday".
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:40:43am |
re: #442 Occasional Reader
Oh, but you forget, even before that we invaded AFRICA. FDR was just waging a racist war on Muslim persons of color.
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:41:14am |
re: #407 loppyd
He raised taxes while Gov. of Arkansas.
Mitt vetoed every tax increase that came across his desk while Gov. of Mass.
Except he then raised fees, and by cutting local aid, caused property taxes to go up, without doing anything to ease the costs for cities and towns.
For example, he could have pushed for allowing towns to use the state's insurance plan, to avoid the way insurance is much higher for small companies and small towns. (The towns and employees would still pay, of course)
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alegrias Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:41:41am |
re: #386 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
As soon as he gets some Arab speakers on his staff, he will!
* * *
Ha ha. Thats because Pashto & Dari languages actually spoken by Afghans--not good enough for him! Afghans must change and grow to love their poppy growing overlords.
He's already got the pro-Syrian, pro-radical theologues & disgraced former West Pointer mohammedan GITMO chaplain convert Mr. Yee as a superdelegate!
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cygnus Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:41:58am |
I just glanced through our local paper, the Everett Herald, for any mention of D-Day. Front page - none. Inside of front page - nothing. Anything in first section - nope.
How disgusting.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:41:58am |
re: #446 Occasional Reader
By the way, folks, it's "have a field day", not "have a heyday".
Would "hayday" be OK, as in "make hay?"
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:42:29am |
Anyone know who this guy is?
Confirmed: Parked jet carried Muslim spiritual leader
Maine had a brush with a prince, after all.
His Highness Prince Karim al-Hussayni Aga Khan arrived in the United States on Tuesday and chose Augusta as his landing spot.
The Aga Khan, the hereditary and spiritual leader of at least 20 million Muslims worldwide, traveled to Harvard University to receive an honorary doctoral degree Thursday. He was awarded the degree along with 10 other prominent recipients, including U.S. Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., who was unable to attend the ceremony; Harry Potter author J.K. Rowling; and others, officials from Harvard University's communications office confirmed.
His Highness, 71, was educated at Harvard University, graduating in 1959 with a degree in Islamic studies, his Web site says. The honorary degree he received Thursday was awarded for his humanitarian work, particularly through the Aga Kahn Development Network, a private development group that primarily focuses on development socially and academically in lesser-developed countries.
What remains a mystery is why the Aga Khan chose to land his Bombardier jet -- identified by its olive green and scarlet banner and registration code -- at the Augusta State Airport.
Maine Instrument Flight president Bill Perry said Tuesday could not confirm how many people were on board or their identities, saying only they were "from overseas."
The prince has lived in Nairobi, Kenya; and Switzerland, but has spent most of his life in France. He has several ties to Maine -- in particular, to Bowdoin College.
Two years ago, former Bowdoin Dean of Student Affairs Craig Bradley resigned from the university and moved his family to France to take a position with the Aga Khan Development Network, developing schools and academies.
Additionally, the Aga Khan serves as chancellor of the Board of Trustees of Aga Khan University, of which former Bowdoin College President Emeritus Robert H. Edwards is also a member.
Bradley, from the Aga Khan's estate in France, said Wednesday he was unaware of the Aga Khan's whereabouts. A woman who answered the phone at Edwards' residence said Edwards was "gone for a few days" and would not be able to comment.
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Widow'smight Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:42:41am |
re: #415 songbird
For me, my vote would be Against Obama, not for McCain.
The way I see it, there are really only a couple positives for McCain, and you have to wonder about them.
He has SAID he will maintain the troops in Iraq and go after the Terrorists, but at the same time, he and his staff are taking every opportunity to Bash the President. He doesn't have to be responsible for making the decision to go after the Taliban and Saddam, all he'll be doing is tending the Garden that the man he's dumping on has given to him.
We hear him say about supporting the President's tax cuts and appointing Judges that will stick to the law, but he didn't support it before.
One of the best things to help our economic and strategic interests would be to produce more oil, he's against that. He's a Global worming nut, cap and trade, close Gitmo, and On and on.
If this was McCain trying to sell me a car, he'd tell me his Renault LeCar is better than Obama's Yugo.
Can't I have a F250?
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:42:50am |
re: #446 Occasional Reader
By the way, folks, it's "have a field day", not "have a heyday".
You are correct.
1. the stage or period of greatest vigor, strength, success, etc.; prime: the heyday of the vaudeville stars.
2. Archaic. high spirits.
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:42:56am |
re: #395 tfc3rid
Huckeabee may be socially conservative to some degree but he is most definitely not economically conservative...
And what we need are fiscal conservatives. The federal budget must be brought under control, and we need to limit and/or cut a lot of the social programs. Our national defense (and offense) takes precidence over social programs 24/7/365.
If we can't fund the war against the Jihad, how can we fight the war against the Jihad?
/No leap year jokes, O.R. :-)
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Silhouette Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:43:18am |
Morning all.
I see that Google is celebrating D-Day, when thousands upon thousands of men risked their lives, many of them losing them, to pull humanity back from the brink.
/sarc
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Occasional Reader Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:43:24am |
re: #451 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Would "hayday" be OK, as in "make hay?"
That would lead to hay favor, and more of the "Atchoo!" politics that have so tarnished our nation.
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:43:55am |
re: #426 songbird Well the Dem's will have fun with whomever McCain chooses - look at how Obama's wing (read majority) of the Democratic Party made fun of McCains teeth (all of which had to be replaced after the ever so progressive North Vietnamese deliberately broke them all off at the root).
FUCK how the Dem's would react, it's our responsibility to be the adults in this years election, regardless of the outcome.
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tfc3rid Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:43:58am |
re: #442 Occasional Reader
Oh, but you forget, even before that we invaded AFRICA. FDR was just waging a racist war on persons of color.
AND Hundreds of Thousands of Americans died and millions of civilians...
FOR GOD'S SAKE WE BOMBED WHOLE CITIES!
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Silhouette Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:44:11am |
re: #446 Occasional Reader
By the way, folks, it's "have a field day", not "have a heyday".
Irregardless, we knew what he meant.
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:44:36am |
re: #443 Kenneth
From what I've read about her, she sounds like a solid choice for VP as well.
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:44:57am |
re: #461 Silhouette
Irregardless, we knew what he meant.
I heard his groan from here!
:D
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Occasional Reader Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:45:50am |
re: #462 buzzsawmonkey
Haces favor? Congratulaciones!
Lo siento si haces fever.
Cervantes just turned over in his grave...
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GreenBear Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:45:52am |
re: #432 realwest
Hey! You know y'all should do more posting out here! Seriously, good post and we could use more like them.
Thanks. I appreciate the compliment.
I just had an "apostrophe" as Smee would say...
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ec marm Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:46:18am |
re: #461 Silhouette
Irregardless, we knew what he meant.
Your comment begs the question, is Washington DC an apartied city?
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alegrias Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:46:27am |
re: #388 Kenneth
Very incisive posts. Everything is personal to Obama, his policies are merely reflections of his personal qualities. He promises to negotiate with Iran, Syria & North Korea, without preconditions, because he is convinced in his own personal ability to convince people.
It's another sign of his Narcissistic Personality Disorder. I keep harping on about this because such a man can do a huge amount of damage to the country & the world.
Obama is mentally unfit for office.
* * *
Carter shared that personalized "I will never lie to you" fake intimacy with the demoralized American public. Carter continues to be "personalized" with icky actors all over the world.
Anything to appeal to Americans' feelings and distance himself from decent, competent but no grinning "personalized" fake friend Interim President Ford who had the AUDACITY to pardon "evil" [genius!] Nixon, and not pander to us.
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:46:29am |
re: #465 Occasional Reader
Cervantes just turned over in his grave...
Can we hook up some wires and get some power out of him then?
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:46:53am |
re: #429 alegrias
Sigh. I know, I know. But one side needs to act as if they were ADULTS here and it's clearly up to the Republicans to fulfill that role.
Obama SHOT UP to the HEIGHTS of power based on CHANGE and HOPE. Think how quickly he'll plummet if he can't deliver what those "fans" think he's gonna deliver - and he can't do it. He just can't do it.
The crash of his fan's expectations will make the 1929 Stock Market crash seem like a burp in history.
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lawhawk Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:47:01am |
re: #413 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
But no one has any plan on what to do with the terrorists being held there. Not one.
No word on whether they'd roll those terrorists into the Navy Brig in VA, Supermax all of 'em until further notice, or send 'em back to their respective hellholes from which they were captured on battlefields, caves, warrens, etc. so that they can again engage in jihad.
That none have a plan shows just how profoundly empty those promises to close Gitmo are. Of course, that's all part of the plan... Closing Gitmo sounds nice and supposedly makes our image appear better in the eyes of the Europeans, but in reality, Gitmo saves lives - by keeping terrorists from being able to engage in attacks against the US and our allies and strategic interests.
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jcm Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:47:37am |
D-DAY +64 years. 24 years ago.
Remarks of President Ronald Wilson Regean at the U.S. Ranger Monument
Pointe du Hoc, France
June 6, 1984
We're here to mark that day in history when the Allied armies joined in battle to reclaim this continent to liberty. For four long years, much of Europe had been under a terrible shadow. Free nations had fallen, Jews cried out in the camps, millions cried out for liberation. Europe was enslaved, and the world prayed for its rescue. Here in Normandy the rescue began. Here the Allies stood and fought against tyranny in a giant undertaking unparalleled in human history.
We stand on a lonely, windswept point on the northern shore of France. The air is soft, but 40 years ago at this moment, the air was dense with smoke and the cries of men, and the air was filled with the crack of rifle fire and the roar of cannon. At dawn, on the morning of the 6th of June, 1944, 225 Rangers jumped off the British landing craft and ran to the bottom of these cliffs. Their mission was one of the most difficult and daring of the invasion: to climb these sheer and desolate cliffs and take out the enemy guns. The Allies had been told that some of the mightiest of these guns were here and they would be trained on the beaches to stop the Allied advance.
The Rangers looked up and saw the enemy soldiers--the edge of the cliffs shooting down at them with machine guns and throwing grenades. And the American Rangers began to climb. They shot rope ladders over the face of these cliffs and began to pull themselves up. When one Ranger fell, another would take his place. When one rope was cut, a Ranger would grab another and begin his climb again. They climbed, shot back, and held their footing. Soon, one by one, the Rangers pulled themselves over the top, and in seizing the firm land at the top of these cliffs, they began to seize back the continent of Europe. Two hundred and twenty-five came here. After two days of fighting, only 90 could still bear arms.
Behind me is a memorial that symbolizes the Ranger daggers that were thrust into the top of these cliffs. And before me are the men who put them there.
These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc. These are the men who took the cliffs. These are the champions who helped free a continent. These are the heroes who helped end a war.
Gentlemen, I look at you and I think of the words of Stephen Spender's poem. You are men who in your "lives fought for life . . . and left the vivid air signed with your honor.''
I think I know what you may be thinking right now--thinking, "We were just part of a bigger effort; everyone was brave that day.'' Well, everyone was. Do you remember the story of Bill Millin of the 51st Highlanders? Forty years ago today, British troops were pinned down near a bridge, waiting desperately for help. Suddenly, they heard the sound of bagpipes, and some thought they were dreaming. Well, they weren't. They looked up and saw Bill Millin with his bagpipes, leading the reinforcements and ignoring the smack of the bullets into the ground around him.
Lord Lovat was with him--Lord Lovat of Scotland, who calmly announced when he got to the bridge, "Sorry I'm a few minutes late,'' as if he'd been delayed by a traffic jam, when in truth he'd just come from the bloody fighting on Sword Beach, which he and his men had just taken.
There was the impossible valor of the Poles who threw themselves between the enemy and the rest of Europe as the invasion took hold, and the unsurpassed courage of the Canadians who had already seen the horrors of war on this coast. They knew what awaited them there, but they would not be deterred. And once they hit Juno Beach, they never looked back.
[cont]
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:47:56am |
re: #467 ec marm
Your comment begs the question, is Washington DC an apartied city?
WTF!?! You can't just stop people from going through a neighborhood.
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Kenneth Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:48:12am |
re: #452 NJDhockeyfan
The Aga Kahn is the leader of the Ismaili Muslim sect. They are modern, pro-Western, & if I may use the word "moderate" Muslims. They are strong supporters of modern education and business. The Ismailis tend to be better educated and wealthier than the average Muslim. Accordingly, they are often persecuted by the Shia & Sunni communities.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:48:14am |
re: #465 Occasional Reader
Cervantes just turned over in his grave...
Cervantes (a veteran of The Battle of Lepanto) has been spinning ever since Spain capitulated to islamic terrorists.
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jcm Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:48:22am |
[cont]
All of these men were part of a rollcall of honor with names that spoke of a pride as bright as the colors they bore: the Royal Winnipeg Rifles, Poland's 24th Lancers, the Royal Scots Fusiliers, the Screaming Eagles, the Yeomen of England's armored divisions, the forces of Free France, the Coast Guard's "Matchbox Fleet'' and you, the American Rangers.
Forty summers have passed since the battle that you fought here. You were young the day you took these cliffs; some of you were hardly more than boys, with the deepest joys of life before you. Yet, you risked everything here. Why? Why did you do it? What impelled you to put aside the instinct for self-preservation and risk your lives to take these cliffs? What inspired all the men of the armies that met here? We look at you, and somehow we know the answer. It was faith and belief; it was loyalty and love.
The men of Normandy had faith that what they were doing was right, faith that they fought for all humanity, faith that a just God would grant them mercy on this beachhead or on the next. It was the deep knowledge--and pray God we have not lost it--that there is a profound, moral difference between the use of force for liberation and the use of force for conquest. You were here to liberate, not to conquer, and so you and those others did not doubt your cause. And you were right not to doubt.
You all knew that some things are worth dying for. One's country is worth dying for, and democracy is worth dying for, because it's the most deeply honorable form of government ever devised by man. All of you loved liberty. All of you were willing to fight tyranny, and you knew the people of your countries were behind you.
The Americans who fought here that morning knew word of the invasion was spreading through the darkness back home. They thought--or felt in their hearts, though they couldn't know in fact, that in Georgia they were filling the churches at 4 a.m., in Kansas they were kneeling on their porches and praying, and in Philadelphia they were ringing the Liberty Bell.
Something else helped the men of D-Day: their rock-hard belief that Providence would have a great hand in the events that would unfold here; that God was an ally in this great cause. And so, the night before the invasion, when Colonel Wolverton asked his parachute troops to kneel with him in prayer he told them: Do not bow your heads, but look up so you can see God and ask His blessing in what we're about to do. Also that night, General Matthew Ridgway on his cot, listening in the darkness for the promise God made to Joshua: "I will not fail thee nor forsake thee.''
These are the things that impelled them; these are the things that shaped the unity of the Allies.
When the war was over, there were lives to be rebuilt and governments to be returned to the people. There were nations to be reborn. Above all, there was a new peace to be assured. These were huge and daunting tasks. But the Allies summoned strength from the faith, belief, loyalty, and love of those who fell here. They rebuilt a new Europe together.
There was first a great reconciliation among those who had been enemies, all of whom had suffered so greatly. The United States did its part, creating the Marshall Plan to help rebuild our allies and our former enemies. The Marshall Plan led to the Atlantic alliance--a great alliance that serves to this day as our shield for freedom, for prosperity, and for peace.
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Ben Hur Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:48:35am |
re: #437 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
No "effin?" this morining?
EFFEN in Caps.
Joo with the Flu.
Went to Israel for two weeks and brought back the EFFEN Joo Flu.
Been in bed for a week.
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tfc3rid Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:48:43am |
re: #459 realwest
I agree realwest, my friend! We cannot allow the inmates to run the asylum... An Obama win would do just that...
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:48:43am |
re: #433 Ben Hur Hey Ben! Good to see you again! Boker Tov to you too!
How are you?
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jcm Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:49:07am |
[cont]
In spite of our great efforts and successes, not all that followed the end of the war was happy or planned. Some liberated countries were lost. The great sadness of this loss echoes down to our own time in the streets of Warsaw, Prague, and East Berlin. Soviet troops that came to the center of this continent did not leave when peace came. They're still there, uninvited, unwanted, unyielding, almost 40 years after the war. Because of this, Allied forces still stand on this continent. Today, as 40 years ago, our armies are here for only one purpose--to protect and defend democracy. The only territories we hold are memorials like this one and graveyards where our heroes rest.
We in America have learned bitter lessons from two World Wars: It is better to be here ready to protect the peace than to take blind shelter across the sea, rushing to respond only after freedom is lost. We've learned that isolationism never was and never will be an acceptable response to tyrannical governments with an expansionist intent.
But we try always to be prepared for peace; prepared to deter aggression; prepared to negotiate the reduction of arms; and, yes, prepared to reach out again in the spirit of reconciliation. In truth, there is no reconciliation we would welcome more than a reconciliation with the Soviet Union, so, together, we can lessen the risks of war, now and forever.
It's fitting to remember here the great losses also suffered by the Russian people during World War II: 20 million perished, a terrible price that testifies to all the world the necessity of ending war. I tell you from my heart that we in the United States do not want war. We want to wipe from the face of the Earth the terrible weapons that man now has in his hands. And I tell you, we are ready to seize that beachhead. We look for some sign from the Soviet Union that they are willing to move forward, that they share our desire and love for peace, and that they will give up the ways of conquest. There must be a changing there that will allow us to turn our hope into action.
We will pray forever that some day that changing will come. But for now, particularly today, it is good and fitting to renew our commitment to each other, to our freedom, and to the alliance that protects it.
We are bound today by what bound us 40 years ago, the same loyalties, traditions, and beliefs. We're bound by reality. The strength of America's allies is vital to the United States, and the American security guarantee is essential to the continued freedom of Europe's democracies. We were with you then; we are with you now. Your hopes are our hopes, and your destiny is our destiny.
Here, in this place where the West held together, let us make a vow to our dead. Let us show them by our actions that we understand what they died for. Let our actions say to them the words for which Matthew Ridgway listened: "I will not fail thee nor forsake thee.''
Strengthened by their courage, heartened by their value [valor], and borne by their memory, let us continue to stand for the ideals for which they lived and died.
Thank you very much, and God bless you all.
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WriterMom Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:49:21am |
Boker Tov.
Anyone ever been to Dhimmipeg, Manitoba?
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guzziguy Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:49:45am |
re: #341 rightside
Whom do you use now? Any other inputs from Lizardia?
Currently I have ask.com as default. Works okay.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:49:51am |
re: #474 jcm
JCM - on the Buchanan thread you said that no one could be isolationist after Oct. 4th, 1957(?) What happened then?
/been hoping you'd show up this morning so I could ask you.
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tfc3rid Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:50:39am |
re: #472 lawhawk
And they are really detached from society being down in Cuba and all... I'd much rather have them down there than up here...
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:51:13am |
re: #443 Kenneth
The mere fact that I had to go look up who she is, should make you realize that she would bring little if anything to McCain's campaign.
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tfc3rid Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:51:45am |
re: #476 Honorary Yooper
WTF!?! You can't just stop people from going through a neighborhood.
I saw that yesterday... I'm sure they will blame it all on the typical white people who visit and live in DC, thinking it is a crime riddled nightmare city...
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Ben Hur Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:52:57am |
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:52:59am |
re: #490 realwest
The mere fact that I had to go look up who she is, should make you realize that she would bring little if anything to McCain's campaign.
That's the thing. She has no name recognition. Most people will be too lazy to find out who she is even though she is a solid conservative.
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:53:02am |
re: #454 redstateredneck Hey there {Red} - um, please, PLEASE don't encourage O.R.!
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tfc3rid Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:53:07am |
re: #490 realwest
The mere fact that I had to go look up who she is, should make you realize that she would bring little if anything to McCain's campaign.
Agreed... We need someone who will energize the party into the McCain camp...
Based on the folks we have seen, who would energize the party on a national scale AND across the board (meaning conservatives plus moderates)?
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ec marm Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:53:22am |
re: #476 Honorary Yooper
WTF!?! You can't just stop people from going through a neighborhood.
Isn't that unbelievable? And the Dems bitch about Baghdad and Iraq, while the seat of our federal government slips into some sort of civil war.
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Tigger2005 Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:53:33am |
I agree with Charles Krauthammer on just about everything, but I don't get his gas-tax argument. I don't see how this tax would have prevented oil prices from rising...it's far more than U.S. demand that's driving the increase.
We need more refineries (kudos to SD voters for deciding to build one), more cleaning-burning coal and nuclear plants, drilling, and oil-shale recovery. We are already seeing the market at work to swiftly meet demand for energy-efficient vehicles, far ahead of government timetables.
I'm writing to my Senators and Representatives. We need to hammer them on their stupid cap and trade plans and "nationalizing the oil industry" crap. Take the chains off the market and let it work, dammit!
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jcm Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:53:58am |
re: #488 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
JCM - on the Buchanan thread you said that no one could be isolationist after Oct. 4th, 1957(?) What happened then?
/been hoping you'd show up this morning so I could ask you.
Sputnik...
WWII isolationism started to die. With Sputnik time and space no longer mattered in warfare. I picked that date somewhat arbitrarily, but it is a good point IMHO to say we can't hide behind distance any more. That is just one factor, but I use it to make the point.
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:54:21am |
re: #497 realwest
Hey there {Red} - um, please, PLEASE don't encourage O.R.!
'bout time you noticed me! I was starting to get my feelings hurt.
;-)
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nikis-knight Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:54:45am |
Morning Lizards.
I have a question. Can someone tell me why Canada and northern Europe are so concerned about climate change, aka global warming?
Are Canadian liberals, for example, really so incredibly dense?
Even if, through some faulty logic and buying all the premises and models of the Global Warming promoters, they conclude that due to 2-5, or heck, 10 *C increase in average temperature over the next century or two, their children will be unable to grow crops, cool their homes, or even go outside due to the sweltering heat, can't they simply look south to confirm or deny this exreme hypothesis, say, maybe Indiana?
Where they'll find that 1-10 degrees higher than Canada, or probably more, does not make it a desert wasteland, but on the contrary, slightly more comfortable?
And looking north at great expanses of Canadian land, a little bit of global warming might in fact make it a bit more habitable?
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alegrias Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:55:05am |
re: #402 GreenBear
* * *
Thank you Green Bear, that's right. Charles is the example of doing something that shocks complacent people into evaluating their positions for themselves. Fact-based, pertinent, insistent, good-natured or indignant, we can communicate fake versus real to friends, family, faith-communities, colleagues.
Just today, on the anniversary of our invasion to rescue Europe, Myanmar & Zimbabwe are turning away US aid & arresting their own people trying to feed starving innocents.
Maybe this EVIDENCE of totalitarian man's inhumanity to man will open a few eyes among the "feelings" and personalized community organizers who think the US is wrong to speak out & DO SOMETHING for others.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:55:13am |
re: #477 Kenneth
The Aga Kahn is the leader of the Ismaili Muslim sect. They are modern, pro-Western, & if I may use the word "moderate" Muslims. They are strong supporters of modern education and business. The Ismailis tend to be better educated and wealthier than the average Muslim. Accordingly, they are often persecuted by the Shia & Sunni communities.
Interesting. I wonder why he came here with no fanfare like the radical ones do.
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:55:32am |
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:55:37am |
re: #500 ec marm
Isn't that unbelievable? And the Dems bitch about Baghdad and Iraq, while the seat of our federal government slips into some sort of civil war.
It is unbelievable. Just remember who runs Washington, DC. It's not Republicans, and it's not conservatives. It's liberal Democrats. The same liberal Democrats who bitch about Baghdad and Iraq.
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Ben Hur Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:55:57am |
anyone watching Fox?
Nice nipple on that bottle.
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WriterMom Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:56:49am |
re: #508 redstateredneck
Darling, joy and beauty are haram.
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Silhouette Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:56:52am |
re: #510 Ben Hur
anyone watching Fox?
Nice nipple on that bottle.
"Fox executives were perpelexed Friday when servers were suddenly hit with a large influx."
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:57:37am |
Kossack:
Recommended by:
Compostings, DaNang65, twirling towards freedomIt's the best way to understand why things happen as they do in the world. Nothing else even comes close.
Most people, to some extent, are Marxists in that they see economic interest as the principal driver of political action, and they see society as broadly grouped into classes economically defined. We recognize exceptions, but we see them as exceptions and tend to label them as such, e.g. conservative "value voters."
Marxism as a broad analytical framework doesn't imply any particular practical-political model; you can't be a political Marxist (in other words, an advocate for revolutionary socialism) without embracing analytical Marxism, but you can embrace analytical Marxism and be all over the place--in fact, you can even privilege non-economic stuff (you could, for instance, be a "values person" in the Huckabee sense), but as an analytical Marxist you would recognize that you're swimming upstream.
-5.38/-3.74 I've suffered for my country. Now it's your turn! --John McCain with apologies to Monty Python's "Protest Song"
by Rich in PA on Fri Jun 06, 2008 at 07:49:03 AM PDT
Progressive!
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:57:50am |
re: #501 Tigger2005
I'm writing to my Senators and Representatives. We need to hammer them on their stupid cap and trade plans and "nationalizing the oil industry" crap. Take the chains off the market and let it work, dammit!
Did you hear that crazy bitch, Maxine Waters on that? "We're going to socialize...er...ummm...rather...what I mean is...take over."
!
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Kenneth Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:58:07am |
re: #490 realwest
Maybe, but once you look her up, you are impressed aren't you? For a running mate McCain needs somebody to shore up the conservative base, but not alienate the middle, adds youth to his ticket, & maybe some other demographic attraction, and brings an important regional vote. Sarah Palin does all but the last item.
If he does want her, McCain should ask her soon and start advertising her. The sooner he gets her name out the better.
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razorbacker Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:59:01am |
I guess Big Boy has forgiven me for the trip to the vet yesterday.
Either that or he intends to hack a hairball onto my lap.
See y'all later. The world won't wait.
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Ben Hur Fri, Jun 6, 2008 7:59:30am |
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:00:34am |
re: #510 Ben Hur
anyone watching Fox?
Nice nipple on that bottle.
He's got a fevah!
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:00:40am |
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nikis-knight Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:01:01am |
re: #514 NJDhockeyfan
We recognize exceptions, but we see them as exceptions and tend to label them as such, e.g. conservative "value voters."
despite losing the last two national elections... That's a pretty big exception... enough to doubt the rule.
Liberals have never been strong on prizing evidence over theory, though...
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cygnus Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:01:07am |
re: #401 realwest
I briefly mentioned that today was the 64th anniversary of D-Day when I first came on board this morning.
But I don't think any of US can really appreciate what those brave men went through for all of us.
None of us - not me, not TFK, not any other combat veteran of any other war - none of us, even if they've seen The Longest Day or Private Ryan.
So many troops were killed in the water and so many more died on the beaches (and that's not including those who were "just" wounded) so that we and Europe could enjoy the fruits of Freedom.
And I'm fucking PISSED OFF again at Google. And at everyone else who won't take the crappy one minute of their lives today, to pause and remember that day and those incredible sacrifices those brave men made.
And it's funny - I recently saw a discovery channel or one of those (maybe National Geographic) do a special on some of the few oldtimers left who went back to Omaha Beach and how well they were treated by the French people from the villages and towns around that area and those schoolkids, who spend two entire days studying the history of D-Day, and then I see Google, again, and I just get pissed off again.
Those who did and those who directly benefited, like those French school children haven't and will never forget that day.
And neither should any of us.
Amen.
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:02:09am |
re: #495 Ben Hur
Glad to hear it's "been sick" and that you're getting better!
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lawhawk Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:02:33am |
I'm having second thoughts about what Bobby Jindal might bring to a McCain ticket. I think he might indeed be the right guy for the ticket after all. Yes, he's lacking the kind of experience that some others might bring as he's just gotten into the governor's mansion in LA, but he's got youth, vigor, and fresh ideas that are sorely lacking in the GOP, and the nation needs him far more seriously than LA does, though LA certainly does need all the help it can get.
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lawhawk Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:03:37am |
A tornado warning has been issued for parts of Hubbard County in north central Minnesota.
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Ben Hur Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:03:56am |
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1SG(ret) Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:04:27am |
Just a short post (work is killing me) to give pause and respect to those that have given so much for this Great Nation. The fact that most in this nation will not remember what this day represents in history is what saddens me the most. Having known many that gave their lives for this nation and many that I never knew. I stand with a heavy heart and great pride for those that gave all and those that where willing to give all. Sure glad to see it wasn't forgotten here. Sure hope to get back to more LGF soon.
To all my fellow Vets out here, I say Thanks and was my pleasure to have served with you.
Top
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:04:46am |
re: #504 redstateredneck Huh? Geez, I'm sorry if I've ignored you out here - just trying to keep up out here is a full time job!
*shakes fist at Ajax*
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grumpy old codger Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:05:07am |
re: #488 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Sputnik? Just a guess.
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Silhouette Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:05:23am |
When I hear Jindal, the first word that pops to mind is "young."
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Kenneth Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:05:36am |
re: #505 nikis-knight
Global Warming Hysteria is a form of navel gazing, a neurotic displacement of real concerns onto a false anxiety.
Six centuries ago, when the Turks were gathering at the gates of Constantinople, the Byzantines became embroiled in an obscure religious argument over whether or not a certain form of prayer, which involved staring at ones own navel, would bring about holy revelation. A civil war was fought over this issue and the once great Empire fatally weakened itself.
Meanwhile the Turks patiently waited their time, sharpening their scimitars.
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alegrias Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:07:00am |
re: #453 Widow'smight
For me, my vote would be Against Obama, not for McCain.
The way I see it, there are really only a couple positives for McCain, and you have to wonder about them.
He has SAID he will maintain the troops in Iraq and go after the Terrorists, but at the same time, he and his staff are taking every opportunity to Bash the President. He doesn't have to be responsible for making the decision to go after the Taliban and Saddam, all he'll be doing is tending the Garden that the man he's dumping on has given to him.
We hear him say about supporting the President's tax cuts and appointing Judges that will stick to the law, but he didn't support it before.One of the best things to help our economic and strategic interests would be to produce more oil, he's against that. He's a Global worming nut, cap and trade, close Gitmo, and On and on.
If this was McCain trying to sell me a car, he'd tell me his Renault LeCar is better than Obama's Yugo.
Can't I have a F250?
* * *
President Bush has GRACIOUSLY acknowledged (even joked about it at the Washington Correspondents' Dinner) that McCain is going to HAVE TO back pedal and DISTANCE himself to refute the NOTION democrats are chanting as their main talking point, that voting for McCain is voting for Bush's third term.
President Bush is a big man, to let himself be swept aside, ridiculed, badmouthed, etc., so McCain can get the attention of the BDS community whose votes we need to preserve, protect & defend the country.
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:08:26am |
re: #506 alegrias
"Maybe this EVIDENCE of totalitarian man's inhumanity to man will open a few eyes among the "feelings" and personalized community organizers who think the US is wrong to speak out & DO SOMETHING for others."
LOL! ROFL! Oh, wait - were you serious? I'm sorry. It's just that that one line made you appear to be a starry-eyed idealist so I naturally assumed you were being sarcastic!
The US has stood up and spoken up and provided
life giving and life saving aid for so many people in so many countries so many times, and all most of 'em do or say is - "yeah, hey thanks, U.S. now fuck off."
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debutaunt Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:08:40am |
re: #527 MandyManners
It's too early to get this choked up.
I started to read it to my husband and got too choked up to continue. The yearning for another Reagan is painful.
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jcm Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:08:48am |
re: #520 realwest
It has to be one of my favorite speeches.
re: #527 MandyManners
I got up, help the wife get the kids up, set off to work. Listening to the radio Floyd Brown is subbing for Kirby Wilbur he mentioned D-Day. I had totally forgotten! Got made at myself for not remembering, and a deep sadness that this day is rapidly being forgotten.
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:09:00am |
re: #207 NJDhockeyfan
Another Kossack jumps ship...
Heh.Good morning lizards!
Someone e-mail this "pumpkinlove" and congratulate him/her on seeing the light.
What's amazing is how the rest of the KosKids are circling the wagons and even accusing "pumpkinlove" of being a Larry Johnson sock puppet. Talk about hive mentality.
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Tigger2005 Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:09:31am |
Thanks jcm. I remember reading that speech years ago. God, I loved Reagan. What an incredible President. The oldest President ever yet vibrant, healthy, energetic, survived an assassination attempt his third year in office, kept his promises through thick and thin. The perfect anecdote to Carter and the other disappointing Presidents that preceded him.
If only Bush II had his charisma, his personality, his ability to speak so openly and honestly, to inspire,* the WoT would be much further along today.
*Of course a President also needs experience, substance, principles, and Reagan had those in spades as well, unlike Obama.
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:09:36am |
re: #526 lawhawk
A tornado warning has been issued for parts of Hubbard County in north central Minnesota.
Shoot, that's early. It's only 10am there.
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:10:07am |
re: #530 realwest
Huh? Geez, I'm sorry if I've ignored you out here - just trying to keep up out here is a full time job!
*shakes fist at Ajax*
You are forgiven.
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tfc3rid Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:10:41am |
re: #547 Honorary Yooper
Shoot, that's early. It's only 10am there.
And if you watch the Weather Channel, it's all because of Global Warming...
The hysteria on that station is incredible...
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:10:48am |
re: #533 Silhouette
When I hear Jindal, the first word that pops to mind is "young."
He needs to fix Louisiana first. If successful there, then he'd be great for 2012 or 2016. Not for VP, but for the big tamale.
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:11:07am |
re: #533 Silhouette
When I hear Jindal, the first word that pops to mind is "young."
Really young...36. He needs another 8 or 12 years.
God knows there's plenty for him to do in Louisiana.
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see bs Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:12:39am |
Happy Friday All! Hopefully it is a payday for you too :)
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alegrias Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:12:40am |
re: #471 realwest
Sigh. I know, I know. But one side needs to act as if they were ADULTS here and it's clearly up to the Republicans to fulfill that role.
Obama SHOT UP to the HEIGHTS of power based on CHANGE and HOPE. Think how quickly he'll plummet if he can't deliver what those "fans" think he's gonna deliver - and he can't do it. He just can't do it.
The crash of his fan's expectations will make the 1929 Stock Market crash seem like a burp in history.
* * *
Carter I is still "worshipped" by the "personalized" community though Carter crashed the country, and started the terrorist space race/nuclear program.
Carter fans still worship Carter I, and now Carter II gives them the same hope for change.
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David Simon Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:12:45am |
re: #550 tfc3rid
And if you watch the Weather Channel, it's all because of Global Warming...
The hysteria on that station is incredible...
That's weird, especially since the founder thinks "global warming" is a bunch of bs.
[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:13:23am |
re: #550 tfc3rid
And if you watch the Weather Channel, it's all because of Global Warming...
The hysteria on that station is incredible...
They need to fire Heidi Cullen ASAP. She seems to be the driving force behind the hysteria there.
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:13:57am |
re: #529 1SG(ret)
Hey Top! Good to see ya and thank you for the sentiments. And know they are sent right back to you!
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Ojoe Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:14:05am |
re: #550 tfc3rid
Global warming will cut heating fuel use.
That's a moderating feedback right there.
I wonder if that also is in the climate models.
What hubris to think they could be accurate in such a complicated system.
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ggt Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:14:59am |
Well, I just paid bills. I used to get a good feeling when I paid bills --a sense of accomplishment.
Now, I just want it over.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:15:15am |
re: #545 Honorary Yooper
This site has devolved into little more than venomous comments and hate towards anyone who disagrees with the pack.
Pumpkinlove has been one of the few pro-Israel voices over there for many years. Rational thought isn't tolerated on the left.
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tfc3rid Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:16:12am |
re: #552 redstateredneck
Really young...36. He needs another 8 or 12 years.
God knows there's plenty for him to do in Louisiana.
Well if he is 36, we cannot run for the White House for another 9 years...
Is there an age limit for the VP slot?
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tfc3rid Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:16:44am |
re: #556 Honorary Yooper
They need to fire Heidi Cullen ASAP. She seems to be the driving force behind the hysteria there.
Hey, man, that's 'Dr.' Heidi Cullen to you...
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:16:50am |
re: #562 tfc3rid
Well if he is 36, we cannot run for the White House for another 9 years...
Is there an age limit for the VP slot?
I've been wondering about that. If he were the vp and something happened to the president, could he serve?
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Kenneth Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:16:55am |
re: #538 alegrias
* * *
President Bush has GRACIOUSLY acknowledged (even joked about it at the Washington Correspondents' Dinner) that McCain is going to HAVE TO back pedal and DISTANCE himself to refute the NOTION democrats are chanting as their main talking point, that voting for McCain is voting for Bush's third term.
President Bush is a big man, to let himself be swept aside, ridiculed, badmouthed, etc., so McCain can get the attention of the BDS community whose votes we need to preserve, protect & defend the country.
Bush was even big enough to invite the Democrats to support the Surge and help turn around the terrible mess in Iraq. Remember the 2006 elections, the Dems won both houses, Rumsfeld was fired and the the bipartisan ISG released their report? That was a great big opening for the Dems to put aside partisan bickering and help serve American interests. Well, we all know how well that turned out. Pelosi & Co gave Bush a petulant f*ck you.
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Bob in Breckenridge Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:16:57am |
I see the swine at google can do a special logo for some spanish painter born 400 years nobody's heard of, but can't do one to commemorate D-Day. Color me shocked! Fucking scumbags.
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Ojoe Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:16:59am |
re: #264 realwest
You are welcome
Here it is for the late risers
A clear sky seen from the top of Mt. Wilson
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:17:07am |
re: #561 Killgore Trout
Pumpkinlove has been one of the few pro-Israel voices over there for many years. Rational thought isn't tolerated on the left.
Well, as far as I am concerned, Pumpkinlove can come here.
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incanus Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:17:08am |
re: #556 Honorary Yooper
They need to fire Heidi Cullen ASAP. She seems to be the driving force behind the hysteria there.
The Weather Channel blows.
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Alouette Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:17:10am |
re: #452 NJDhockeyfan
Anyone know who this guy is?
Wasn't his father married to the actress Rita Hayworth?
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:17:29am |
re: #543 jcm
Yeah, mine too - but it took some effort for you to get that posted out here and I thank you, again, for that.
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tfc3rid Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:17:30am |
re: #559 Ojoe
They only think of the one thing, warming... Not the hunderds and thousands of other variables in the situation...
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David Simon Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:17:31am |
re: #564 redstateredneck
I've been wondering about that. If he were the vp and something happened to the president, could he serve?
Yep, 35 is the age limit.
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:18:16am |
re: #562 tfc3rid
Well if he is 36, we cannot run for the White House for another 9 years...
Is there an age limit for the VP slot?
If he's 36, he can run for president right now. The age limit is a minimum of 35 years and must be born a US citizen.
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WriterMom Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:18:33am |
re: #452 NJDhockeyfan
The Aga Khan, gazillionaire and head of Ismayli (sp?) Muslims.
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Bob in Breckenridge Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:18:57am |
re: #566 Bob in Breckenridge
PIMF-
I see the swine at google can do a special logo for some spanish painter born 400 years ago nobody's heard of, but can't do one to commemorate D-Day. Color me shocked! Fucking scumbags.
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tfc3rid Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:19:05am |
re: #577 Honorary Yooper
If he's 36, he can run for president right now. The age limit is a minimum of 35 years and must be born a US citizen.
I thought President was 45, Senate was 35... Hmmm... Bad American Government knowledge...
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:19:46am |
re: #564 redstateredneck
I've been wondering about that. If he were the vp and something happened to the president, could he serve?
I did a little checking and apparently, you only need to be 35 to be vp or president. I thought it was older.
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Silhouette Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:20:10am |
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nyc redneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:20:19am |
good morning everyone, i slept 10 hrs. last night.
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:20:34am |
re: #580 tfc3rid
I thought President was 45, Senate was 35... Hmmm... Bad American Government knowledge...
Nope. The minimum age for a Senator is 30, and for the House is 25.
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:20:38am |
As we remember D-Day, let's consider how our two Presidential candidates would remember it.
What kind of speech would McCain make?
Certainly one praising those who sacrificed so much for the freedom of not only the US, UK and France, but the world.
And this, from someone who does know what sacrifice means, and knows that there are some things worth fighting for.
What about Obama's speech?
He'd find some narcissistic personal, and also racial angle. I don't think he can even comprehend the sacrifices of those who lost their lives, or even what the survivors went through. And I'm not so sure he believes it was worth it, or sees how such sacrifice will, unfortunately, be needed again.
And to his wife, sacrifice is not being able to afford both dance and music lessons for the children.
With Iran trying to get the bomb, militant Muslims wanting to destroy the West and restore the Caliphate, and much of the world willing to appease them, who do you want running the country?
Vote for McCain. Hold your nose if you have to; bring a barf bag. But the US needs to be secure.
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:20:41am |
re: #548 redstateredneck Thanks {Red} I really do appreciate that!
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:20:49am |
re: #574 David Simon
Yep, 35 is the age limit.
Thanks, I just looked it up. Why did I think it was 40? Did they change it?
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Silhouette Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:21:20am |
re: #562 tfc3rid
Is there an age limit for the VP slot?
The Constitutions says that no one may be VP who does not meet the requirements for President.
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nyc redneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:21:44am |
re: #586 buzzsawmonkey
Braggart.
and i'm still tired.
so much digging to enlarge the garden.
(just in case)
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:21:57am |
re: #589 redstateredneck
Thanks, I just looked it up. Why did I think it was 40? Did they change it?
Nope, it has not been changed since 1787.
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songbird Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:22:01am |
re: #577 Honorary Yooper
If he's 36, he can run for president right now. The age limit is a minimum of 35 years and must be born a US citizen.
Born in the USA at that, and I think he qualifies.
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lawhawk Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:22:16am |
re: #564 redstateredneck
The age requirement for President is 35 and must be a natural born citizen of the US, and it is assumed that the qualifications to become VP are the same as for being President.
Jindal meets those requirements.
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incanus Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:22:21am |
re: #580 tfc3rid
I thought President was 45, Senate was 35... Hmmm... Bad American Government knowledge...
No person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the age of twenty five years, and been seven years a citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an inhabitant of that state in which he shall be chosen. [Article I, Section 2]
No person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the age of thirty years, and been nine years a citizen of the United States and who shall not, when elected, be an inhabitant of that state for which he shall be chosen. [Article I, Section 3]
No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States. [Article II, Section 1]
People always forget about the last part.
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DistantThunder Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:22:22am |
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Bob in Breckenridge Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:22:23am |
FDR's D-Day prayer to our troops-
My Fellow Americans:
Last night, when I spoke with you about the fall of Rome, I knew at that moment that troops of the United States and our Allies were crossing the Channel in another and greater operation. It has come to pass with success thus far.
And so, in this poignant hour, I ask you to join with me in prayer:
Almighty God: Our sons, pride of our nation, this day have set upon a mighty endeavor, a struggle to preserve our Republic, our religion, and our civilization, and to set free a suffering humanity.
Lead them straight and true; give strength to their arms, stoutness to their hearts, steadfastness in their faith.
They will need Thy blessings. Their road will be long and hard. For the enemy is strong. He may hurl back our forces. Success may not come with rushing speed, but we shall return again and again; and we know that by Thy grace, and by the righteousness of our cause, our sons will triumph.
They will be sore tried, by night and by day, without rest -- until the victory is won. The darkness will be rent by noise and flame. Men's souls will be shaken with the violences of war.
For these men are lately drawn from the ways of peace. They fight not for the lust of conquest. They fight to end conquest. They fight to liberate. They fight to let justice arise, and tolerance and goodwill among all Thy people. They yearn but for the end of battle, for their return to the haven of home.
Some will never return. Embrace these, Father, and receive them, Thy heroic servants, into Thy kingdom.
And for us at home -- fathers, mothers, children, wives, sisters, and brothers of brave men overseas, whose thoughts and prayers are ever with them -- help us, Almighty God, to rededicate ourselves in renewed faith in Thee in this hour of great sacrifice.
Many people have urged that I call the nation into a single day of special prayer. But because the road is long and the desire is great, I ask that our people devote themselves in a continuance of prayer. As we rise to each new day, and again when each day is spent, let words of prayer be on our lips, invoking Thy help to our efforts.
Give us strength, too -- strength in our daily tasks, to redouble the contributions we make in the physical and the material support of our armed forces.
And let our hearts be stout, to wait out the long travail, to bear sorrows that may come, to impart our courage unto our sons wheresoever they may be.
And, O Lord, give us faith. Give us faith in Thee; faith in our sons; faith in each other; faith in our united crusade. Let not the keeness of our spirit ever be dulled. Let not the impacts of temporary events, of temporal matters of but fleeting moment -- let not these deter us in our unconquerable purpose.
With Thy blessing, we shall prevail over the unholy forces of our enemy. Help us to conquer the apostles of greed and racial arrogances. Lead us to the saving of our country, and with our sister nations into a world unity that will spell a sure peace -- a peace invulnerable to the schemings of unworthy men. And a peace that will let all of men live in freedom, reaping the just rewards of their honest toil.
Thy will be done, Almighty God.
Amen.
Franklin D. Roosevelt - June 6, 1944
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:22:42am |
re: #566 Bob in Breckenridge
I see the swine at google can do a special logo for some spanish
painter born 400 years nobody's heard of, but can't do one to
commemorate D-Day. Color me shocked! Fucking scumbags.
Not to defend Google's snubbing of D-Day, but Velazquez isn't "some painter that no one's ever heard of." He was one of the finest artists to have ever lived.
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Bob in Breckenridge Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:23:05am |
re: #574 David Simon
Yep, 35 is the age limit.
Actually, it's the minimum.
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incanus Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:23:48am |
re: #601 Bob in Breckenridge
Actually, it's the minimum.
Also known as a lower limit, surely.
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:23:52am |
re: #594 songbird
Born in the USA at that, and I think he qualifies.
A natural-born citizen, and this includes children born overseas to parents who are US citizens. This is why John McCain is very much eligible, and the flap about him being born in the Canal Zone is a bunch of horse pucky.
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:23:54am |
re: #554 alegrias
"Carter I is still "worshipped" by the "personalized" community though Carter crashed the country, and started the terrorist space race/nuclear program."
You're kidding me? There are people out there that actually LIKE Jimmy Carter, much less RESPECT him?
Geez, I gotta get out more!
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Kenneth Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:23:57am |
re: #578 WriterMom
The Aga Khan was also one of the honorary pall bearers at Pierre Trudeau's funeral, along with Leonard Cohen, Fidel Castro & Jimmy Carter.
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tfc3rid Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:24:03am |
re: #595 lawhawk
The age requirement for President is 35 and must be a natural born citizen of the US, and it is assumed that the qualifications to become VP are the same as for being President.
Jindal meets those requirements.
Well, I use the argument that Obama has not developed a track record yet... I have to remain consistent and say that Jindal has not yet developed one either so I don't think it's time to put that bullet in the chamber yet...
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DistantThunder Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:24:15am |
re: #524 lawhawk
I'm having second thoughts about what Bobby Jindal might bring to a McCain ticket. I think he might indeed be the right guy for the ticket after all. Yes, he's lacking the kind of experience that some others might bring as he's just gotten into the governor's mansion in LA, but he's got youth, vigor, and fresh ideas that are sorely lacking in the GOP, and the nation needs him far more seriously than LA does, though LA certainly does need all the help it can get.
Let Bobby be the poster child of Republican competence by cleaning up the cesspool that is New Orleans. Later he can say:
Vote for me Exhibit 1: New Orleans
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:25:02am |
re: #606 Silhouette
Does that make Obama Baby Bear?
If so, I hope somebody pisses in his porridge.
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lawhawk Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:25:26am |
re: #607 tfc3rid
That's not entirely true - Jindal has executive experience, and has a voting record that goes beyond simply voting present. Obama has no accomplishments to his name at all, and but for his opponent's sex scandal, would still be an ACORN peddler in Chicago and Illinois local politics.
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alegrias Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:26:00am |
re: #541 realwest
"Maybe this EVIDENCE of totalitarian man's inhumanity to man will open a few eyes among the "feelings" and personalized community organizers who think the US is wrong to speak out & DO SOMETHING for others."
LOL! ROFL! Oh, wait - were you serious? I'm sorry. It's just that that one line made you appear to be a starry-eyed idealist so I naturally assumed you were being sarcastic!
The US has stood up and spoken up and provided
life giving and life saving aid for so many people in so many countries so many times, and all most of 'em do or say is - "yeah, hey thanks, U.S. now fuck off."
* * *
Yes, it's silly I know to expect EYES TO OPEN at the party that hasn't "personalized the NOTION" of NEVER AGAIN.
Dems let Pol Pot murder millions of Cambodians, watched Saddam gas his own Halabja villagers, watched China roll tanks over people in Tien an Men (anniversary was yesterday), Tutsi & Hutus hack each other, Sudanese government-sent Janjaweedis to hack Darfurians, etc. etc.
Dems "changed" the tv channel, that's all.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:26:09am |
re: #604 realwest
"Carter
I is still "worshipped" by the "personalized" community though Carter
crashed the country, and started the terrorist space race/nuclear
program."
You're kidding me? There are people out there that actually LIKE Jimmy Carter, much less RESPECT him?
Geez, I gotta get out more!
If you've never met these folks, then I'd recommend you stay right where you are!
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Kenneth Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:26:32am |
re: #571 buzzsawmonkey
Interesting analysis. I also see a kind of Freudian obsession with the anal stage: we are dirty, we foul everything. Confirms my suspicion enviro-leftism is a consequence of poor potty training. I'm sure Al Gore wears an extra large diaper.
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David Simon Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:26:58am |
re: #589 redstateredneck
Thanks, I just looked it up. Why did I think it was 40? Did they change it?
No, it's mandated by the Constitution. Not sure how old you are, but speaking from personal experience, the mind plays tricks as we age. ;->
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:26:59am |
re: #561 Killgore Trout
Hi Killgore! "Rational thought isn't tolerated on the left." Then I reckon it's a good thing that Rational Thought is so rare on the Left.
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:27:17am |
re: #617 Ojoe
"≥ 35."
Math is very economical.
And a great language too. :-)
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cygnus Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:27:24am |
re: #544 UFO TOFU
[Link: youtube.com...]
"Jesus Christ?"
"Barack Obama, honey."
"Oh."
Totally creepy.
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incanus Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:27:32am |
re: #617 Ojoe
"≥ 35."
Math is very economical.
Heh, you get to wear the pedantic hat today =)
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:27:35am |
re: #615 buzzsawmonkey
ACORNs are nuts. And poisonous to humans.
But the squirrely types love them (no offense to Kenneth)
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Ojoe Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:27:37am |
re: #604 realwest
Oh yeah, where I live lots of people think Carter was the greatest.
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incanus Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:28:30am |
re: #625 Ojoe
Oh yeah, where I live lots of people think Carter was the greatest.
Because his teeth are better than McCain's?
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Ojoe Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:28:52am |
re: #624 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
You can eat acorns if you shell them, pound them, and leach the bitter tannins out with plenty of water.
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ggt Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:29:01am |
re: #625 Ojoe
Has anyone who served under Carter in the Navy written about the experience? I wonder what he was like as a officer?
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Kenneth Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:29:05am |
re: #621 WriterMom
Sounds like a set up for a joke right?
A Communist, a redneck anti-Semite, a Muslim, and a Jew walk into a Cathedral...
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:29:09am |
re: #612 lawhawk
That's not entirely true - Jindal has executive experience, and has a voting record that goes beyond simply voting present. Obama has no accomplishments to his name at all, and but for his opponent's sex scandal, would still be an ACORN peddler in Chicago and Illinois local politics.
Absent the scandal, do you think Ryan could have beaten Obama in '04? I mean, Illinois is a pretty heavily Dem state.
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nyc redneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:29:19am |
re: #608 ggt
I did too!
were you tired or depressed? i was mostly tired.
but i got the green beans, and squash in the ground
and a second planting of spinach,turnips and cucumbers.
i used to grow a garden for the fun of it. now i'm seeing how
money it saves.
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Ojoe Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:29:25am |
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:29:54am |
re: #618 David Simon
No, it's mandated by the Constitution. Not sure how old you are, but speaking from personal experience, the mind plays tricks as we age. ;->
Ouch!
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jcm Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:30:10am |
re: #612 lawhawk
That's not entirely true - Jindal has executive experience, and has a voting record that goes beyond simply voting present. Obama has no accomplishments to his name at all, and but for his opponent's sex scandal, would still be an ACORN peddler in Chicago and Illinois local politics.
The Jindal question for me comes down to what's best for the country.
Is it best he gets a solid term or two as Gov. under his belt and runs on his executive experience. In '12 or '16 depending McCain. Or does McCain tap him as veep and pre-position Jindal in the front runner slot for '12 or '16.
Both scenarios have pros and cons.
I'm tending toward letting Jindal get a successful term or two as gov.
Either way Jindal is my first pick for the next go round.
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Spider Mensch Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:30:42am |
re: #610 redstateredneck
If so, I hope somebody pisses in his porridge.
"somebody's been peeing on my waffle and telling me its syrup!"
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:30:43am |
re: #626 incanus
Because his teeth are better than McCain's?
They're bigger, that's for damn sure!
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Pawn of the Oppressor Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:30:50am |
re: #543 jcm
I got up, help the wife get the kids up, set off to work. Listening to the radio Floyd Brown is subbing for Kirby Wilbur he mentioned D-Day. I had totally forgotten! Got made at myself for not remembering, and a deep sadness that this day is rapidly being forgotten.
I've made it a point to watch the first ten minutes of Saving Private Ryan every year on June 6th. You just can't overstate the bravery of what those guys did, and the importance of why they did it.
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:31:28am |
re: #575 ggt Hi ggt! Gee it's good to see you out here when I'm more or less awake! LOL!
How are you doing today (other than paying the bills, I mean)?
Mom and I got a notice that a renewal of our one years lease THIS time around is gonna be 17% of our last years rent (which was less than 2% of the prior years rent) and all because the housing market fell so precipitously that now everyone wants to rent so pay up or move out.
SOMETIMES, in a PERSONAL SENSE, Capitalism blows.
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WriterMom Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:31:30am |
re: #402 GreenBear
It is nice to get along with people and be pleasant. But I have also found that the quality of my life is often measured by how pissed-off my enemies are at any particular time. I figure if they are upset, maybe I've done something right.
Words to live by. Just delightful!
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nyc redneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:32:47am |
re: #628 Ojoe
You can eat acorns if you shell them, pound them, and leach the bitter tannins out with plenty of water.
the indians found trees that actually had acorns w/ out the bitter tannins. they were quite rare and greatly valued because the acorns could be consumed right off the tree.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:33:05am |
re: #643 jamgarr
Isn't it 35 not 45?
Since the Constitution is a "living document", it varies.
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:33:23am |
re: #580 tfc3rid
Product of NYC Public school education?!? LOL!
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WriterMom Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:33:24am |
I just used the favourites button for the first time for #402...I suggest everyone read it. I wish I had more UP DINGS.
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ggt Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:33:24am |
re: #632 nyc redneck
I'm one of those people who need more than 8 hours. 10 is perfect. I don't often get it but when I do I feel great. If I sleep less than 8, I need a mid-afternoon nap.
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:34:14am |
re: #616 Kenneth
Interesting analysis. I also see a kind of Freudian obsession with the anal stage: we are dirty, we foul everything. Confirms my suspicion enviro-leftism is a consequence of poor potty training. I'm sure Al Gore wears an extra large diaper.
Given the BS that he spouts, he should put the diaper over his mouth.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:34:25am |
re: #647 WriterMom
I just used the favourites button for the first time for #402...I suggest everyone read it. I wish I had more UP DINGS.
I get lots of spam along those lines.
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:34:25am |
re: #643 jamgarr
Isn't it 35 not 45?
Yes, it's 35.
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:34:26am |
re: #631 Ward Cleaver
Absent the scandal, do you think Ryan could have beaten Obama in '04? I mean, Illinois is a pretty heavily Dem state.
Yes, Ryan would've beaten Obama in '04. He was leading all the polls up to that point. Illinois is not as heavily Democrat as advertised. You have Chicago which is very much Democrat, the collar counties and most of northern and central Illinois are Republican, and downstate, south of I-70 is very Democrat. It was very apparent in the '04 presidential election. Illinois had a few blue counties (Cook, Peoria, Champaign) in the north, and was blue in the south. Otherwise, the state was red.
If we could finally convince the south that it is to their betterment to vote with us, we could bury Chicago with votes.
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jcm Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:34:31am |
re: #645 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Since the Constitution is a "living document", it varies.
Thanks, I have clean some coffee out of my keyboard now.
Very funny, and at the same time not funny at all.
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alegrias Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:34:53am |
re: #599 Iron Fist
,
I can see the ads. McCain is too old, Jindal is too young, but the Obamessiah is just right.
Hopey hope, change change!
* * *
I love Jindal & expect great things in future, but for McCain to select such a young though promising guy, smacks of Bush I choosing (Senator) Dan Quayle in 1988, which dismayed even me at the time.
Quayle may have been chosen for geographic or conservative base reasons or to appeal to younger voters or women, but it was DUMB! And being VP didn't help Quayle's career either.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:35:16am |
re: #648 ggt
I'm
one of those people who need more than 8 hours. 10 is perfect. I don't
often get it but when I do I feel great. If I sleep less than 8, I need
a mid-afternoon nap.
You served in the Air Force?
/I still kid.
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Bob in Breckenridge Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:35:40am |
re: #631 Ward Cleaver
Absent the scandal, do you think Ryan could have beaten Obama in '04? I mean, Illinois is a pretty heavily Dem state.
Obama wasn't even the first choice of the Dems. It was Blair Hull, but he had some ghosts in his closet, spousal abuse if I remember correctly, that knocked him out of running.
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:35:45am |
re: #589 redstateredneck No, they didn't change it
{Red} you're just at that time of life when your memory starts to fade a little!
/ducks and runs for cover!
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jcm Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:36:45am |
Seattle is doing their part to combat Gorebul Warming.
Beach bonfires may be banned
They fuel global warming, parks department says
According to a memo to the park board from the staff released Thursday, "The overall policy question for the Board is whether it is good policy for Seattle Parks to continue public beach fires when the carbon ... emissions produced by thousands of beach fires per year contributes to global warming."
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nyc redneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:36:51am |
re: #647 WriterMom
I just used the favourites button for the first time for #402...I suggest everyone read it. I wish I had more UP DINGS.
thanks for the heads up. a positive attitude is so important. you need that to even think you can win.
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:37:01am |
re: #653 Honorary Yooper
Yes, Ryan would've beaten Obama in '04. He was leading all the polls up to that point. Illinois is not as heavily Democrat as advertised. You have Chicago which is very much Democrat, the collar counties and most of northern and central Illinois are Republican, and downstate, south of I-70 is very Democrat. It was very apparent in the '04 presidential election. Illinois had a few blue counties (Cook, Peoria, Champaign) in the north, and was blue in the south. Otherwise, the state was red.
If we could finally convince the south that it is to their betterment to vote with us, we could bury Chicago with votes.
My wife's relatives live mostly in Madison Co., Illinois, and the men in her family generally vote Dem (they're union guys), and the women vote GOP (they're pro-life).
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MJ Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:37:07am |
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:37:11am |
re: #641 realwest
Hi ggt! Gee it's good to see you out here when I'm more or less awake! LOL!
How are you doing today (other than paying the bills, I mean)?Mom and I got a notice that a renewal of our one years lease THIS time around is gonna be 17% of our last years rent (which was less than 2% of the prior years rent) and all because the housing market fell so precipitously that now everyone wants to rent so pay up or move out.
SOMETIMES, in a PERSONAL SENSE, Capitalism blows.
Well, on the other hand, there's never been a better time to buy. Housing prices will go back up, and rates are fairly low right now for a mortgage. Shoot, some people are trying to give houses away right now (there's a developer in San Diego who has a BOGO sale on them).
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:37:26am |
re: #638 Spider Mensch
"somebody's been peeing on my waffle and telling me its syrup!"
Maybe he'd prefer to put on his waffle, Electric Aunt Jemima
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:37:27am |
re: #658 realwest
No, they didn't change it
{Red} you're just at that time of life when your memory starts to fade a little!
/ducks and runs for cover!
The standing joke in the office is where did I leave my glasses. I'm always looking for them and I leave them in the damnedest places!
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:37:48am |
re: #599 Iron Fist
Hey there Bro' - hope all is going well for ya!
Uh, "Hopey hope, changey change!"
Just thought I'd fix that for ya! LOL!
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ggt Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:37:57am |
re: #641 realwest
I heard that the auto companies are laying off as well. Yet housing starts are up around Chicagoland. Economics is too complex for me.
Sorry about your rent. My parents moved to a better apartment and with all the changes (what the apts pay for and what they don't) it is only costing them $20 more a month.
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jamgarr Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:38:04am |
re: #645 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Since the Constitution is a "living document", it varies.
Every time I hear the phrase I think of the Spinal Tap Stonehenge bit with the "living rock" tripe.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:38:37am |
re: #667 redstateredneck
The
standing joke in the office is where did I leave my glasses. I'm always
looking for them and I leave them in the damnedest places!
Ever ask "where are my glasses" & then realize that you have them on? My boss does that sometimes!
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WriterMom Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:38:58am |
re: #651 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Eh. The spam is usually for bigger up dings...not more. I mean-that would be freaky.
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:39:00am |
re: #663 MJ
Photo posted at Kos:
[Link: s144.photobucket.com...]
[Link: www.dailykos.com...]
Junior High humor.
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:39:00am |
re: #657 Bob in Breckenridge
Obama wasn't even the first choice of the Dems. It was Blair Hull, but he had some ghosts in his closet, spousal abuse if I remember correctly, that knocked him out of running.
Yep. That makes not one, but two people in the race who had scandals that forced them out and opened the door to Obama. IIRC, Hull was not a favorite of the Chicago Machine though.
Shenanigans anyone?
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jcm Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:39:11am |
re: #656 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
You served in the Air Force?
/I still kid.
Look Air Force life was tough. We had SOS for breakfast twice a week, sometimes our afternoon nap got interrupted, and and worst of all they bought the cheap sheets to go on our mattresses.
Life was brutal!
;-P
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David Simon Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:39:51am |
re: #667 redstateredneck
The standing joke in the office is where did I leave my glasses. I'm always looking for them and I leave them in the damnedest places!
If it weren't attached to my body, I would lose my own penis.
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Kenneth Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:39:52am |
re: #402 GreenBear
The original saying is by Edmund Burke, and has been quoted in many forms, the usual version is:
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
Wise words indeed.
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:39:57am |
re: #670 jamgarr
Every time I hear the phrase I think of the Spinal Tap Stonehenge bit with the "living rock" tripe.
"No one knows who they were or what they were doing." Which applies to the courts as well as the Druids.
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ggt Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:39:59am |
re: #653 Honorary Yooper
Was there a Rezko thread? I missed it. Chicago politicians are on their knees praying for Obama.
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nyc redneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:39:59am |
i'm just listening to the radio.
ksm is so angry and hurt because the sketch artist drew his nose too big.
this vain assh*le does not want to die.
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incanus Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:40:04am |
re: #663 MJ
Photo posted at Kos:
[Link: s144.photobucket.com...]
[Link: www.dailykos.com...]
So they're voting for McCain then, yes? Cos gay is good.
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funkyfantom Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:40:25am |
re: #79 buzzsawmonkey
This must trouble anyone who considers the attitudes towards Jews and Israel espoused and inculcated by Wright and his ideological brethern, or who considers that even a conservative like Condoleezza Rice has been led by the ideologies of American domestic racial politics over the last 40 years to see and feel an emotional bond between American blacks and the "Palestinians."
I would say there is definitely an emotional bond, considering that the official PA Authority newspaper has portrayed Condi as being pregnant with an ape.
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jcm Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:41:07am |
re: #665 buzzsawmonkey
Wait'll Burning Man gets canceled on the same rationale.
Running around nekkid offsets the carbon footprint.
/
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WriterMom Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:41:15am |
re: #676 David Simon
LOL. That's an interesting twist on the 'I'd forget my own head if it weren't attached to my shoulders'. Thanks for sharing!
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:41:22am |
re: #675 jcm
Look Air Force life was tough. We had SOS for breakfast twice a week, sometimes our afternoon nap got interrupted, and and worst of all they bought the cheap sheets to go on our mattresses.
Life was brutal!
;-P
My brother says the hardest thing that the AF guys do is get up in the morning. He was Army, but stationed for awhile at Lackland AFB, and watched the AF guys go through basic. He was not impressed.
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wahabicorridor Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:41:32am |
re: #655 alegrias
And being VP didn't help Quayle's career either
Being Quayle didn't help Quayle's career.
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Golem Akbar Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:41:42am |
Good morning Lizards! No time to join in today...still busy busy. But did Bob Dylan really endorse Obama? Drudge says it's so. Oh mamma...
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WriterMom Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:41:43am |
re: #680 nyc redneck
They should take some sketch pencils and oh...nevermind...
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:41:44am |
re: #609 DistantThunder
Hi there - don't think that's really necessary these days is it? I mean for Obama it would be:
Vote for me Exhibit 1: uh, I can, er, speak well, oh, um, if I have a, you know, ah, a prepared speech!
Oh and I know Billy Ayers and Tony Rezco and Jerry Wright and..."!
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:41:48am |
re: #676 David Simon
If it weren't attached to my body, I would lose my own penis.
Good thing it's attached. That would be a hell of a shock to find on the ground somewhere.
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:42:02am |
re: #669 ggt
I heard that the auto companies are laying off as well. Yet housing starts are up around Chicagoland. Economics is too complex for me.
Sorry about your rent. My parents moved to a better apartment and with all the changes (what the apts pay for and what they don't) it is only costing them $20 more a month.
It's really odd. The auto companies are laying off and hiring at the same time. They can't keep up with production of smaller cars, but they are mothballing SUV plants. It's all supply and demand.
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:42:27am |
re: #693 redstateredneck
Good thing it's attached. That would be a hell of a shock to find on the ground somewhere.
Yeah, just ask John Bobbit!
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nyc redneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:42:32am |
and the artist went back and made his nose smaller.
this monster is going to try to turn this proceeding into a 3 ring circus.
i hope we have a no nonsense judge on this case.
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Kenneth Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:42:43am |
re: #690 Golem Akbar
Akk! Wait till BabbaZee hears about that!
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David Simon Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:43:27am |
re: #680 nyc redneck
ksm is so angry and hurt because the sketch artist drew his nose too big.
If I were him, I'd be a little angrier about this:
[Link: angelinoview.com...]
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WriterMom Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:43:48am |
re: #697 nyc redneck
They should have painted him with a kippah, and a Magen David, and a t-shirt saying Guns and Moses, or "Six Days, Bitch".
LOL.
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:44:09am |
re: #613 alegrias Yep, and when they reached FOX they said "Oh no - part of the VRWC, truth and all that" and changed channels again.
That's really a major problem with the Dem's today: no one, I say NO ONE is willing to accept ANY personal responsibility. Exhibit 1: Katrina.
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tfc3rid Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:44:19am |
re: #646 realwest
Product of NYC Public school education?!? LOL!
Actually no... Catholic schooling... LOL
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:44:29am |
re: #679 ggt
Was there a Rezko thread? I missed it. Chicago politicians are on their knees praying for Obama.
I don't recall a Rezko thread per se, but, Rezko has come up in the Obama threads thus far. I know they are praying for Obama, for if Obama wins, the heat is off the Combine and Fitz needs to find a new job.
How long till you think Tony rolls anyway?
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jcm Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:44:47am |
re: #687 Ward Cleaver
My brother says the hardest thing that the AF guys do is get up in the morning. He was Army, but stationed for awhile at Lackland AFB, and watched the AF guys go through basic. He was not impressed.
I gained weight in AF basic. I worked for the Forest Service the year before tree thinning, hauling a chain saw plus all the fuel, oil, water and supplies for a day up and down mountains in 100° + heat. AF basic was a breeze, I was kind of pissed. I was going to go for a pararescue slot, and got out of shape in basic and had to work harder to get back in shape to try the entrance test.
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coquimbojoe Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:45:11am |
re: #681 incanus
So they're voting for McCain then, yes? Cos gay is good.
Conservative homosexuality always seems to be bad... In seriousness, I always felt it belied the left's supposed embrace of everything how they use homosexuality against conservatives. You would think if they were so open saying someone was homosexual would be like saying someone eats food or breathes...sorry for the OT.
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:45:12am |
The woman, 64, remained Thursday in a Contra Costa jail on $810,000 bail on suspicion of premeditated arson and burglary.
Police say the woman used a fireplace log and a lighter to set fires in the restrooms of an Arco station, a Chevron station and a Starbucks on Wednesday. No structural damage was reported at the locations.
Police later found the woman at a nearby fast food restaurant with eight fireplace logs with her. She told officers that she was behind the fires and said she woke up that morning wanting to do something about high gas prices.
SNIP
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vxbush Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:45:18am |
s#!t. We lost power to the building. Now I have fifty backup power supplies beeping at me.
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incanus Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:45:37am |
re: #698 Kenneth
Akk! Wait till BabbaZee hears about that!
She already has.
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coquimbojoe Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:45:42am |
re: #684 jcm
Running around nekkid offsets the carbon footprint.
/
Veggie burritos don't.
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jcm Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:46:00am |
re: #693 redstateredneck
Good thing it's attached. That would be a hell of a shock to find on the ground somewhere.
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David Simon Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:46:16am |
re: #689 Kenneth
Quoting Bill Clinton?
You just had to go there, didn't you?
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ggt Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:46:23am |
re: #694 Honorary Yooper
So, they are getting rid of the high-priced employees and replacing them with new hires. I guess it's better than outsourcing to Thailand. That part of business I understand.
It's the MSM constant barage of snippits of information with out context that makes me crazy.
Chicago made the cut and is now one of four contenders for the Olympics. I'm glad I live in the very far Western Suburbs. Traffic is bad enough. Of course, if they get the games, they'll have to come out here for the shooting events.
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:46:30am |
re: #625 Ojoe Gaah! Where do you live - cause, no disrespect intended, but I sure as hell don't want to even visit there.
Oh wait, is it La-La land?
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nyc redneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:46:36am |
re: #700 WriterMom
They should have painted him with a kippah, and a Magen David, and a t-shirt saying Guns and Moses, or "Six Days, Bitch".
LOL.
lol
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BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:46:38am |
re: #706 MandyManners
The woman, 64, remained Thursday in a Contra Costa jail on $810,000 bail on suspicion of premeditated arson and burglary.
Police
say the woman used a fireplace log and a lighter to set fires in the
restrooms of an Arco station, a Chevron station and a Starbucks on
Wednesday. No structural damage was reported at the locations.Police
later found the woman at a nearby fast food restaurant with eight
fireplace logs with her. She told officers that she was behind the
fires and said she woke up that morning wanting to do something about
high gas prices.SNIP
So having less gas available will lower the price?
Hope!
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incanus Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:46:44am |
re: #705 coquimbojoe
Conservative homosexuality always seems to be bad... In seriousness, I always felt it belied the left's supposed embrace of everything how they use homosexuality against conservatives. You would think if they were so open saying someone was homosexual would be like saying someone eats food or breathes...sorry for the OT.
You can't be OT on an open thread, friend.
Are you saying the left is hypocritical? That's a rather stunning accusation! =)
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David Simon Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:47:04am |
re: #693 redstateredneck
Good thing it's attached. That would be a hell of a shock to find on the ground somewhere.
You just had to go there, didn't you?
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alegrias Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:47:06am |
re: #604 realwest
"Carter I is still "worshipped" by the "personalized" community though Carter crashed the country, and started the terrorist space race/nuclear program."
You're kidding me? There are people out there that actually LIKE Jimmy Carter, much less RESPECT him?
Geez, I gotta get out more!
* * *
Real,
Many Americans (including lizards here) voted for Carter over a less "personal" guy who was decent & defended our country better than Carter ever did.
Sadly, there are still deluded people who ignore all evidence and FEEL Carter was better than Ford & Reagan.
We have lizards here who also still prefer candidates for their "personalized" faith, populism, gender/genetic & friendliness quotients, instead of spine, courage, ideals, grit, integrity, experience.
We have to recognize the "feelings" crowd, and promote the fact Commander in Chief is not about "Feelings", notions, refusing to take sides or refusing to take action!
I'm struggling to be clear because I too was taught "progressive" new change ideas were the way to go, and surely the academics & journalists were being factual & correct. (Washington Post was our daily bread, PBS our news/radio/culture source)
Charles and others here have punctured so much I formerly believed as true, and I'm grateful for the tough love.
Our upcoming election is as important as D-Day.
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incanus Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:47:25am |
re: #706 MandyManners
The woman, 64, remained Thursday in a Contra Costa jail on $810,000 bail on suspicion of premeditated arson and burglary.
Police say the woman used a fireplace log and a lighter to set fires in the restrooms of an Arco station, a Chevron station and a Starbucks on Wednesday. No structural damage was reported at the locations.
Police later found the woman at a nearby fast food restaurant with eight fireplace logs with her. She told officers that she was behind the fires and said she woke up that morning wanting to do something about high gas prices.
SNIP
Lock yourself in the bathroom next time. Thanks.
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:47:30am |
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:47:42am |
re: #706 MandyManners
The woman, 64, remained Thursday in a Contra Costa jail on $810,000 bail on suspicion of premeditated arson and burglary.
Police say the woman used a fireplace log and a lighter to set fires in the restrooms of an Arco station, a Chevron station and a Starbucks on Wednesday. No structural damage was reported at the locations.
Police later found the woman at a nearby fast food restaurant with eight fireplace logs with her. She told officers that she was behind the fires and said she woke up that morning wanting to do something about high gas prices.
SNIP
And high coffee prices too, it would seem.
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:47:51am |
re: #707 vxbush
s#!t. We lost power to the building. Now I have fifty backup power supplies beeping at me.
Dontcha just love it? Are they going to gracefully shut down (connected by serial or USB to the UPSs), or do the users have to shut them down?
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VegasRick Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:47:56am |
re: #697 nyc redneck
and the artist went back and made his nose smaller.
this monster is going to try to turn this proceeding into a 3 ring circus.
i hope we have a no nonsense judge on this case.
I would have just made his real nose bigger.
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ggt Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:48:00am |
re: #703 Honorary Yooper
Who knows, the way things work around here, he could be made a cannonized by next week.
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alegrias Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:48:34am |
re: #605 Kenneth
The Aga Khan was also one of the honorary pall bearers at Pierre Trudeau's funeral, along with Leonard Cohen, Fidel Castro & Jimmy Carter.
* * *
Probably goes shoe shopping with Suha Arafat in Paris.
Great leader we can call an ally--NOT!
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:48:44am |
re: #717 David Simon
You just had to go there, didn't you?
Why, yes. Yes I did.
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incanus Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:49:26am |
re: #707 vxbush
s#!t. We lost power to the building. Now I have fifty backup power supplies beeping at me.
Good luck! Now you find out about the 8 UPSes with bad batteries.
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MJ Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:49:37am |
re: #712 ggt
"Of course, if they get the games, they'll have to come out here for the shooting events".
No they won't. They'll just have to go to one the Chicago Public High Schools...
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Bob in Breckenridge Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:50:12am |
And now for something completely different-
A man walks into his bedroom and sees his wife packing a suitcase.
He asks, "What are you doing?"
She answers, "I'm moving to London . I heard prostitutes there get paid $400 for doing what I do for you for free."
Later that night, on her way out, the wife walks into the bedroom and sees her husband packing his suitcase.
When she asks him where he's going, he replies, "I'm coming too, I want to see how you live on $800 a year".
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coquimbojoe Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:50:13am |
re: #716 incanus
You can't be OT on an open thread, friend.
Are you saying the left is hypocritical? That's a rather stunning accusation! =)
Yeah, they make my brain itch...
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cygnus Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:50:17am |
re: #659 jcm
Seattle is doing their part to combat Gorebul Warming.
Beach bonfires may be banned
They fuel global warming, parks department says
[deleted] [deleted] moronic [deleted]
That just pegged my Stupid-o-Meter. No more beach fires at Golden Gardens or Alki? Unbelievable!
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lawhawk Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:50:49am |
So, the NYT reports that $45 trillion is needed to prevent energy shortages. Building nuclear power plants, drilling for oil in places like the Gulf that are currently off limits to US companies or ANWR, or investing in new refineries is a private sector investment that would happen if the federal government stops imposing crazy restrictions on developing said resources.
And using a photo of a bunch of Chinese drivers waiting in line for gas isn't exactly what it seems. Chinese communists ration gas, control prices, and do everything Democrats (and some GOPers) suggest. That's why there are long lines.
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:50:55am |
re: #731 incanus
Good luck! Now you find out about the 8 UPSes with bad batteries.
You would hope they were already giving bad battery alerts before that.
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:50:59am |
re: #697 nyc redneck
and the artist went back and made his nose smaller.
this monster is going to try to turn this proceeding into a 3 ring circus.
i hope we have a no nonsense judge on this case.
He was afraid the big nose made him look Jewish.
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ggt Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:51:03am |
re: #726 ggt
Who knows, the way things work around here, he could be made a cannonized by next week.
Ok, well, I obviously need more fresh coffee.
I hope you understood, because I don't think I can fix it.
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:51:39am |
re: #647 WriterMom
What, you couldn't quote it? Damn, I hadda go back and read it and realize I'd already updinged him and wrote a post to 'em.
You know, Ajax is kicking my butt out here - next time you go back more than 200 posts, PLEASE quote whomever you're referring to! PLEASE.
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Kenneth Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:51:46am |
Almost without anyone noticing, the relationship between the US and the Government of Iraq is moving from an authorization under UN Chapter VII to a bilateral agreement between two fully sovereign countries.
...Crocker said that Iran is doing all it can to scupper the strategic framework negotiations. However, some regional goverments may see it as inevitable. Crocker said that "the foreign minister of the United Arab Emirates ... just announced that they are returning an ambassador and reopening their embassy."
If current trends continue, there is little chance that Iran can stop the emergence of regionally recognized and stable Iraq. Their best hope is stall until possibly favorable political developments in Washington allow them to effectively raise the issue of Iraqi sovereignty in negotiations with the new administration. A direct challenge is unlikely, since sovereignty was legally returned to Iraq four years ago under UN Security Council resolution 1546.
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ggt Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:51:57am |
re: #734 Bob in Breckenridge
Someone used that on the Prizker threads-- only they used the amount Kristin allegedly charged.
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jcm Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:51:59am |
re: #718 alegrias
Makers and Takers: Why conservatives work harder, feel happier, have closer families, take fewer drugs, give more generously, value honesty more, are less materialistic and envious, whine less... and even hug their children more than liberals.
*honest that's the title*
In Makers and Takers you will discover why:* Seventy-one percent of conservatives say you have an obligation to care for a seriously injured spouse or parent versus less than half (46 percent) of liberals.
* Conservatives have a better work ethic and are much less likely to call in sick than their liberal counterparts.
* Liberals are 2½ times more likely to be resentful of others’ success and 50 percent more likely to be jealous of other people’s good luck.
* Liberals are 2 times more likely to say it is okay to cheat the government out of welfare money you don’t deserve.
* Conservatives are more likely than liberals to hug their children and “significantly more likely” to display positive nurturing emotions.
* Liberals are less trusting of family members and much less likely to stay in touch with their parents.
* Do you get satisfaction from putting someone else’s happiness ahead of your own? Fifty-five percent of conservatives said yes versus only 20 percent of liberals.
* Rush Limbaugh, Ronald Reagan, Bill O’Reilly and Dick Cheney have given large sums of money to people in need, while Ted Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi, Michael Moore, and Al Gore have not.
* Those who are “very liberal” are 3 times more likely than conservatives to throw things when they get angry.
The American left prides itself on being superior to conservatives: more generous, less materialistic, more tolerant, more intellectual, and more selfless. For years scholars have constructed—and the media has pushed—elaborate theories designed to demonstrate that conservatives suffer from a host of personality defects and character flaws. According to these supposedly unbiased studies, conservatives are mean-spirited, greedy, selfish malcontents with authoritarian tendencies. Far from the belief of a few cranks, prominent liberals from John Kenneth Galbraith to Hillary Clinton have succumbed to these prejudices. But what do the facts show?
Peter Schweizer has dug deep—through tax documents, scholarly data, primary opinion research surveys, and private records—and has discovered that these claims are a myth. Indeed, he shows that many of these claims actually apply more to liberals than conservatives. Much as he did in his bestseller Do as I Say (Not as I Do), he brings to light never-before-revealed facts that will upset conventional wisdom.
Conservatives such as Ronald Reagan and Robert Bork have long argued that liberal policies promote social decay. Schweizer, using the latest data and research, exposes how, in general:
* Liberals are more self-centered than conservatives.
* Conservatives are more generous and charitable than liberals.
* Liberals are more envious and less hardworking than conservatives.
* Conservatives value truth more than liberals, and are less prone to cheating and lying.
* Liberals are more angry than conservatives.
* Conservatives are actually more knowledgeable than liberals.
* Liberals are more dissatisfied and unhappy than conservatives.Schweizer argues that the failure lies in modern liberal ideas, which foster a self-centered, “if it feels good do it” attitude that leads liberals to outsource their responsibilities to the government and focus instead on themselves and their own desires.
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Kragar (proud to be kafir) Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:52:12am |
re: #739 Ward Cleaver
You would hope they were already giving bad battery alerts before that.
The battery alert function broke.
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jcm Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:52:20am |
re: #721 redstateredneck
I had to work up the nerve to click that!
LOL!
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:52:36am |
re: #700 WriterMom
They should have painted him with a kippah, and a Magen David, and a t-shirt saying Guns and Moses, or "Six Days, Bitch".
LOL.
Then the troofers would use it as evidence that 9/11 was done by Jews.
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incanus Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:52:47am |
re: #739 Ward Cleaver
You would hope they were already giving bad battery alerts before that.
You would hope, but experience shows they often don't.
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:53:08am |
re: #712 ggt
So, they are getting rid of the high-priced employees and replacing them with new hires. I guess it's better than outsourcing to Thailand. That part of business I understand.
Well, not so much getting rid of higher paid people so much as getting rid of product that doesn't sell. They are offering people at the SUV plants positions at the plants were they they make smaller more fuel efficient cars. Not everyone wants to do so.
It's the MSM constant barage of snippits of information with out context that makes me crazy.
The MSM has been anti-American in all aspects for decades now. They bash the US military, the US economy, the US way of life, US manufacturing, etc. It is a seamless garment to them.
Chicago made the cut and is now one of four contenders for the Olympics. I'm glad I live in the very far Western Suburbs. Traffic is bad enough. Of course, if they get the games, they'll have to come out here for the shooting events.
Very true. I'm split over the Olympics. On one hand, I dislike Daley so much I want it to blow up in his face. On the other, it'd be nice for the area to get them.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:53:26am |
Pig's head nailed to Asian centre
A pig's head has been nailed to the door of a former Methodist chapel which is being converted into an Asian community centre.
Police are treating the incident at Quenchwell, near Carnon Downs, Cornwall, as a racist attack.
The pig's head is the latest incident at the centre, which has been daubed with graffiti, including the words Leave Now, over the past two weeks.
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ggt Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:53:42am |
I have to make more coffee and start my day.
It's turning dark outside, just when I have to get in the car.
to the Chicagoland Lizards --stay dry today.
Have a great one -all!
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:53:45am |
But don't drill here! Hell no!
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nyc redneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:53:48am |
re: #725 VegasRick
I would have just made his real nose bigger.
exactly. he scored a psychological victory by forcing the change. this artist isn't thinking beyond the sketch.
the monster will keep pushing in all ways to tire everyone involved. he needs a straight jacket. these assh*les need to be decisively curtailed in every frivolous thing they do.
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:54:06am |
re: #657 Bob in Breckenridge What?! They found ghosts in Blair Hull's closet? Then who the hell vetted Obama? Michelle?! LOL!
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Bob in Breckenridge Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:54:33am |
What's the definition of the bravest man in the world?
A man who comes home drunk, covered in lipstick and smelling of perfume, then slaps his wife on the backside and says: "You're next, fatty."
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hermeneutics Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:54:58am |
[Link: politicalquiz.net...]
I don't put much stock in a 25 question quiz but I took it ... and I'm a (Presbyterian) neo-con!
Cons v. progressivism: 5
Capitalism v. socialism: 0
Libertarian v. Authoritarian: 6
Pacifist v. Militarist: 12
re: #78 Hengineer
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Ward Cleaver Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:55:05am |
re: #751 incanus
You would hope, but experience shows they often don't.
I just replaced one here recently because it started beeping. One I like is the APC BR1500LCD, because it has an LCD display on the front panel. Very cool.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:55:06am |
re: #747 jcm
Libs are waiting for someone to donate money to a think-tank that can de-bunk the theory posted.
Heh.
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Bosch Fawstin Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:55:19am |
What do you call the US gov. continuous friendship with our enemies the Sowdies in a post 9/11 world? I call it the American people getting Bucked Over again and again.
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alegrias Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:55:32am |
re: #600 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Not to defend Google's snubbing of D-Day, but Velazquez isn't "some painter that no one's ever heard of." He was one of the finest artists to have ever lived.
* * *
The King & Queen depicted in the background were HAPSBURGS descended from Spanish monarchs who kicked radical islamic heiny TWICE at least, in 1492 and again at the battle of Lepanto.
Velazquez the painter was from Seville, the beautiful city liberated from Al Andalus, on the Quadalquivir River (yes, an arabic name), where the wealth of the Americas made port, and where Christopher Columbus got permission & funds to "discover" America.
In Seville you can climb the Giralda tower, which was once a big ol fat minaret from which Okkupied Spain was ordered to pray five times a day.
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Kenneth Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:55:52am |
Israeli PM raises spectre of military operation in Gaza
None of this is news to the Bush Administration or Congress. They've already been briefed that the incursion is inevitable and top leaders from both parties will support it. The Egyptian government, which fears a Hamas-led Gaza as much as Israel does, has tried to mediate. But Hamas showers Israel with rocket fire, continues arms smuggling through tunnels built between individual houses inside and outside of Gaza, and won't release Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit, kidnapped in 2006.
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:56:46am |
re: #664 Honorary Yooper Um, yeah but Mom's 83+ and I'm not gonna make it to 66 so buying isn't in our future.
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jcm Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:57:11am |
re: #755 Ward Cleaver
But don't drill here! Hell no!
But, but the Polar Bear and Snail Darter! What about them! They have rights too!
/moonbat.
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Honorary Yooper Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:57:45am |
re: #757 realwest
What?! They found ghosts in Blair Hull's closet? Then who the hell vetted Obama? Michelle?! LOL!
The same people supporting Obama now were those who vetted him for the Senate. They're not stupid, they're bad, IMHO.
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cygnus Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:57:48am |
re: #676 David Simon
If it weren't attached to my body, I would lose my own penis.
"Hello, Lost and Found? I need to know if you've found something of mine. Oh, you want a description of it? Uhhh..."
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cygnus Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:58:59am |
re: #679 ggt
Was there a Rezko thread? I missed it. Chicago politicians are on their knees praying for to Obama.
/Fixed.
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jun 6, 2008 8:59:18am |
re: #758 Bob in Breckenridge
What's the definition of the bravest man in the world?
A man who comes home drunk, covered in lipstick and smelling of perfume, then slaps his wife on the backside and says: "You're next, fatty."
So Bill Clinton is brave?
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cygnus Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:00:40am |
re: #769 cygnus
re: #679 ggt
Was there a Rezko thread? I missed it. Chicago politicians are on their knees praying for to Obama.
PIMF! D'oh!
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Mars Needs Neocons Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:00:52am |
re: #100 Lucius Septimius
Do it quietly, privately, with no fanfare. The Luca Brasi treatment.
Luca got screwed.
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yma o hyd Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:02:20am |
Hi Lizards - thought you might like to read this:
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
One of Britain oldest WWI veterans turns 112 today.
He is also the last surviving member of the Royal Air Force, which is 90 this year ...
A though generation, this - survivors of a most terrible war in which the best and brightest of all of Europe perished, on all fronts.
Their courage cannot be praised sufficiently, and they deserve our remembrance even today, when we remember D-Day.
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David Simon Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:03:00am |
re: #768 cygnus
"Hello, Lost and Found? I need to know if you've found something of mine. Oh, you want a description of it? Uhhh..."
Okay, I'm embarrassed to admit it, but I think one of the funniest movie scenes I've ever seen is in Porky's ("Maybe we can get one of those sketch artists to draw it. Have you seen this dick?")
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WriterMom Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:04:11am |
OK...Charles better get up soonre: #764 Kenneth
Total bullshit. Nobody gives info in advance.
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cygnus Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:04:53am |
re: #706 MandyManners
The woman, 64, remained Thursday in a Contra Costa jail on $810,000 bail on suspicion of premeditated arson and burglary.
Police say the woman used a fireplace log and a lighter to set fires in the restrooms of an Arco station, a Chevron station and a Starbucks on Wednesday. No structural damage was reported at the locations.
Police later found the woman at a nearby fast food restaurant with eight fireplace logs with her. She told officers that she was behind the fires and said she woke up that morning wanting to do something about high gas prices.
SNIP
She'd have one heckuva carbon footprint if one of those station had blown up.
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WriterMom Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:04:59am |
re: #775 WriterMom
OYCRAP.
I meant-Charles should get up soon because the thread was going penis...then I left and quoted Kenneth about Olmert.
GA.
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incanus Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:05:59am |
re: #777 WriterMom
OYCRAP.
I meant-Charles should get up soon because the thread was going penis...then I left and quoted Kenneth about Olmert.
GA.
Face it, you were making a veiled penis reference.
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Mars Needs Neocons Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:06:37am |
re: #587 Kosh's Shadow
As we remember D-Day, let's consider how our two Presidential candidates would remember it.
What kind of speech would McCain make?
Certainly one praising those who sacrificed so much for the freedom of not only the US, UK and France, but the world.
And this, from someone who does know what sacrifice means, and knows that there are some things worth fighting for.What about Obama's speech?
He'd find some narcissistic personal, and also racial angle. I don't think he can even comprehend the sacrifices of those who lost their lives, or even what the survivors went through. And I'm not so sure he believes it was worth it, or sees how such sacrifice will, unfortunately, be needed again.
And to his wife, sacrifice is not being able to afford both dance and music lessons for the children.With Iran trying to get the bomb, militant Muslims wanting to destroy the West and restore the Caliphate, and much of the world willing to appease them, who do you want running the country?
Vote for McCain. Hold your nose if you have to; bring a barf bag. But the US needs to be secure.
"I remember my uncle who personally cleared Omaha beach all by himself"
/Obama off
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David Simon Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:06:52am |
re: #777 WriterMom
OYCRAP.
I meant-Charles should get up soon because the thread was going penis...then I left and quoted Kenneth about Olmert.
GA.
One could hardly blame you.
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cygnus Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:07:39am |
re: #693 redstateredneck
Good thing it's attached. That would be a hell of a shock to find on the ground somewhere.
Scene from the beach at minus tide: "Mommy, look! I found a geoduck! And it doesn't even have a shell!"
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:08:45am |
re: #781 cygnus
Scene from the beach at minus tide: "Mommy, look! I found a geoduck! And it doesn't even have a shell!"
DON'T TOUCH IT! ! !
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alegrias Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:09:06am |
re: #649 buzzsawmonkey
But since the Indians had no written language, the horrific toll taken by the Squirrel Wars has been lost to history.
* * *
Mike Huckabee is a Squirrel Master!
I still think it showed American resourcefulness, to trap & cook a free-range meal in his old popcorn popper.
Speaking of survival for people who are hungering, rabbit is supposedly easy to grow fast. We could send rodents instead of conventional aid.
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Kenneth Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:09:45am |
re: #777 WriterMom
Olmert figures if he hints at peace one day & war the next, then he has a better chance of not being taken out of office in handcuffs.
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WriterMom Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:11:50am |
re: #784 Kenneth
Corrupt thug. He's the Israeli equivalent of Jean Crouton.
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kay1212 Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:12:37am |
Old news and Off Topic--sorry if it's already been discussed.
I missed the Obama-Rezko post yesterday but did anyone comment on the $300,000 gain Obama received on the purchase of his house that Powerline reported?
Let's say the house and extra lot cost $2 million and a deal was struck for $1.7 million. I don't have the actual numbers. But Rezko's wife paid full price for the $625,000 lot and therefore, Obama received the full $300,000 discount.
I call this graft.
From Powerline:
The Chicago Tribune interviewed Obama about Rezko this past March. As late as 2005 when Rezko was already under investigation, Rezko purchased the lot adjoining the house the Obamas purchased on the same day. Rather, Rita Rezko purchased the lot: "Rezko's wife, Rita Rezko, bought the side lot for $625,000. A $37,000- a-year Cook County employee, she secured a $500,000 mortgage from Mutual Bank of Harvey."
Obama bought his house for $300,000 less than the asking price when Rezko bought the adjoining lot for the asking price. "Frankly I don't think he was doing me a favor," Obama said. "There was simply no connection between our purchase of the house, the price of the house and the purchase of the lot."
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incanus Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:13:48am |
re: #785 WriterMom
Veiled penis? LOLOL.
"Modesty is the path to righteousness"
Muslim bumpersticker I saw yesterday in Dhimmiapolis.
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cygnus Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:14:12am |
re: #785 WriterMom
Veiled penis? LOLOL.
Is it wearing a burka?
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alegrias Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:14:21am |
re: #688 wahabicorridor
Being Quayle didn't help Quayle's career.
* * *
Hola, W. Corridor!
Agreed--which is why choosing candidates on superficial characteristics is so wrong!
I miss Richard Cheney VP already! No pretty boy empty suit he.
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:15:15am |
re: #789 cygnus
Is it wearing a burka?
Nah, it's just not circumcised.
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incanus Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:18:42am |
re: #789 cygnus
Is it wearing a burka?
It's wearing a wool burka (i.e. a sheep)
Ok, I'll stop now and go upstairs.
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Mars Needs Neocons Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:18:57am |
re: #603 Honorary Yooper
A natural-born citizen, and this includes children born overseas to parents who are US citizens. This is why John McCain is very much eligible, and the flap about him being born in the Canal Zone is a bunch of horse pucky.
I wish there was some rule against someone like O who seemed to be an American citizen only when it was convenient to his mommy.
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newmelleman Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:22:59am |
Salutations fair lizards!
Friday - check
Payday - check (direct deposit actually)
Boss out of the office - check
Not raining - check
*puts feet up on desk*
How you doin?
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alegrias Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:23:32am |
re: #747 jcm
* * *
That's a fantastic short course, in a nutshell. Thanks, JCM.
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incanus Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:23:39am |
re: #794 newmelleman
Salutations fair lizards!
Friday - check
Payday - check (direct deposit actually)
Boss out of the office - check
Not raining - check*puts feet up on desk*
How you doin?
Grr.
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:24:28am |
re: #794 newmelleman
{NMM}
Thank God you're here. We were running out of pithy comments and had resorted to penis humor.
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realwest Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:25:08am |
re: #773 yma o hyd
Interesting article, thank you.
I also noted that the BBC - the BBC - made no mention of D-Day.
Just charming.
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jcm Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:25:54am |
re: #795 alegrias
He was on the local talk station, already added to my buy list. Problem with munckins now I'm waaay behind on my reading list.
I'm add it to books spinoffs.
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newmelleman Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:26:36am |
re: #796 incanus
Hey, we're +13 inches on rain so far this year...not that we don't know what +13 inches is like or anything.
:P
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newmelleman Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:27:12am |
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:28:17am |
re: #800 newmelleman
Hey, we're +13 inches on rain so far this year...not that we don't know what +13 inches is like or anything.
:P
We're dry as a boner here.
Damn, once you start something it just takes over!
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UFO TOFU Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:34:32am |
#802 redstate
Not quite sure how dry that is, but our Governator declared a drought emergency yesterday.
It's always a drought in SoCal.
They're mobilizing the Lawn Sprinkler Police in LA.
/How much longer 'till I can get out of this state?
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newmelleman Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:37:49am |
They're mobilizing the Lawn Sprinkler Police in LA
Oh, the humanity!
/
Hey UFO!
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Occasional Reader Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:39:14am |
re: #600 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
Not to defend Google's snubbing of D-Day, but Velazquez isn't "some painter that no one's ever heard of." He was one of the finest artists to have ever lived.
I've always suspected you of having pro-Spain sympathies, camarada.
REMEMBER THE MAINE!
/
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:41:26am |
re: #803 UFO TOFU
They're mobilizing the Lawn Sprinkler Police in LA.
I would be in trouble. I just had my sprinkler system serviced so I could start it up.
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UFO TOFU Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:43:42am |
Hey newmelleman, how's the projects going?
Just got the footing dug for the retaining wall dug when Mrs. Tofu decided we needed a wrought iron fence across the front. In order to save money and get a better job, I told the installer that I'd paint it myself with automotive-quality paint.
It's rained twice since he was done.
At the freakin' end of May.
In the middle of a drought.
Rust never sleeps.
Hope your projects are going better.
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UFO TOFU Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:47:09am |
re: #807 redstateredneck
We've got our own water police too. My sprinklers come on at 5AM.
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:49:48am |
re: #809 UFO TOFU
Mine, too. Actually, the sprinkler guy says that is the best time. You get double the benefit because as the sun rises, the water is pulled back to the surface (or something like that).
:D
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newmelleman Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:51:19am |
re: #808 UFO TOFU
Working on a white picket fence around our garden so I can scrap the old chicken wire, ma/pa kettle looking one. Other than that nothing big, the basement is ready for flooring but my wallet isn't.
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incanus Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:51:48am |
re: #800 newmelleman
Hey, we're +13 inches on rain so far this year...not that we don't know what +13 inches is like or anything.
:P
We had a bigass (meteorology term) T-storm here last night ... was a great lightning show. Rivers are high and the farmers are pissed.
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newmelleman Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:53:04am |
re: #810 redstateredneck
I guess its a combination of our soil and all the rain we've had but I've got mushrooms growing in my lawn.
I keep my eyes peeled for squirrels or rabbits doing hallucigen induced crazy stuff but so far nothing.
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UFO TOFU Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:53:32am |
re: #810 redstateredneck
as the sun rises, the water is pulled back to the surface
Guess we'll have to rethink that whole jumping-into-a-water-filled-ditch-for-protection-f rom-a-tornado thing, huh?
;-p
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:55:34am |
re: #811 newmelleman
Working on a white picket fence around our garden so I can scrap the old chicken wire, ma/pa kettle looking one. Other than that nothing big, the basement is ready for flooring but my wallet isn't.
What kind of flooring are you looking at?
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newmelleman Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:56:22am |
icanus
We had a bigass (meteorology term) T-storm here last night ... was a great lightning show. Rivers are high and the farmers are pissed.
I guess that would be a "weather event". The meterologists (sp?) roll up their sleeves as though they are actually doing battle with the storm and break into your favorite shows for extra face time.
The rivers are high so the farmers decided to get their drunk on?
:)
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newmelleman Fri, Jun 6, 2008 9:58:09am |
re: #815 redstateredneck
What kind of flooring are you looking at?
NMW hasn't decided told me yet. Primarily carpet...the decision is how much tile and where. Tile around the bar area for sure though.
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 10:00:55am |
re: #817 newmelleman
NMW hasn't
decidedtold me yet. Primarily carpet...the decision is how much tile and where. Tile around the bar area for sure though.
If you can do it yourself, the tile is not that expensive. Most of the cost of tile is labor.
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 10:01:46am |
My next house, I want the cement in the basement colored and scored and then use area rugs.
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UFO TOFU Fri, Jun 6, 2008 10:03:52am |
re: #819 redstateredneck
That's a nice touch. I had the tile around our pool textured and scored so it looks like large tiles. Couldn't afford the color though, it doubled the price off the concrete. Still can't figure that one out.
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UFO TOFU Fri, Jun 6, 2008 10:07:03am |
re: #819 redstateredneck
BTW, a cool effect is textured concrete in one color, and the release for texture mats something complimentary. Wherever there's texture, you see the color of the concrete; the areas that don't get indented you see the color of the release. Parts of the strip in Las Vegas are like that.
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newmelleman Fri, Jun 6, 2008 10:08:39am |
re: #818 redstateredneck
I'm OK w/doing the tile myself. I've got a little issue with a crack that has made the floor uneven. I suppose I could just get some floor leveler and make it myself but after working on the basement for almost 5 years now I'm about at the point where I'm willing to pay someone else to do the flooring.
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UFO TOFU Fri, Jun 6, 2008 10:10:35am |
re: #824 newmelleman
Yes, project-completion fatigue. I know it well.
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newmelleman Fri, Jun 6, 2008 10:12:24am |
re: #825 UFO TOFU
I'm hoping its just a project-completion latency period.
:)
Is there a certain colored pill that might help? Would I need to call a Dr. if for instance I started working on a project and didn't stop for 48 hours?
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newmelleman Fri, Jun 6, 2008 10:15:22am |
re: #823 redstateredneck
Payroll just arrived. BBL
I suppose that could be turned into some sort of naughty comment but I like fear you too much.
:D
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 10:19:58am |
re: #827 newmelleman
I suppose that could be turned into some sort of naughty comment but I
likefear you too much.:D
I'm back!
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UFO TOFU Fri, Jun 6, 2008 10:21:45am |
re: #827 newmelleman
Well, wasn't she the one that started the thread deviation earlier?
(I can say that because I don't think she's here right now)
And with that, I'm outta here. Take care NMM.
Love ya redstate.
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newmelleman Fri, Jun 6, 2008 10:22:15am |
I'm back
I'm back in the saddle again
I'm back
I'm back in the saddle againRidin' into town alone by the light of the moon
I'm lookin' for old Sukie Jones she crazy horse saloon
Barkeep gimme a drink that's when she caught my eye
She turned to give me a wink that make a grown man cryI'm back in the saddle again
I'm back
I'm back in the saddle again
I'm backCome easy, go easy, all right till the rising sun
I'm calling all the shots tonight I'm like a loaded gun
Peelin' off my boots and chaps I'm saddle sore
Four bits gets you time in the racks I scream for more
Fools' gold out of their mines the girls are soaking wet
No tongue's drier than mine I'll come when I get backI'm back in the saddle again
I'm back
I'm back in the saddle againI'm ridin', I'm loadin' up my pistol
I'm ridin', I really got a fistful
I'm ridin', I'm shinin' up my saddle
I'm ridin', this snake is gonna rattleI'm back in the saddle again
I'm back
I'm back in the saddle again
I'm backRidin' high
Ridin' high
Ridin' high
Already
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newmelleman Fri, Jun 6, 2008 10:23:22am |
re: #829 UFO TOFU
Have a good weekend UFO! I hope the county lets you keep water in your pool.
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 10:23:49am |
re: #829 UFO TOFU
Well, wasn't she the one that started the thread deviation earlier?
(I can say that because I don't think she's here right now)And with that, I'm outta here. Take care NMM.
Love ya redstate.
Not me; I just responded to it!
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 10:25:08am |
Eeeww! I just got an email from Fungus Advisor.
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newmelleman Fri, Jun 6, 2008 10:27:03am |
re: #834 redstateredneck
Eeeww! I just got an email from Fungus Advisor.
Is that like one of those services that monitor your credit rating?
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DistantThunder Fri, Jun 6, 2008 10:28:03am |
re: #613 alegrias
* * *
Yes, it's silly I know to expect EYES TO OPEN at the party that hasn't "personalized the NOTION" of NEVER AGAIN.
Dems let Pol Pot murder millions of Cambodians, watched Saddam gas his own Halabja villagers, watched China roll tanks over people in Tien an Men (anniversary was yesterday), Tutsi & Hutus hack each other, Sudanese government-sent Janjaweedis to hack Darfurians, etc. etc.
Dems "changed" the tv channel, that's all.
Don't forget the mass graves in Iraq where they found some graves 75% full of women and children, some pregnant, 98 children in one grave had no bullet holes while the adults did indicating that the children were buried ALIVE.
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 10:32:08am |
re: #835 newmelleman
Is that like one of those services that monitor your credit rating?
Toe fungus.
I.do.not.have.toe.fungus.
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newmelleman Fri, Jun 6, 2008 10:36:12am |
re: #837 redstateredneck
Well 'course not!
Speaking of fungus though...I've recently discovered the wonders of Portabello Mushrooms. Thats some dang tasty fungus there I tell ya.
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 10:43:53am |
re: #838 newmelleman
Well 'course not!
Speaking of fungus though...I've recently discovered the wonders of Portabello Mushrooms. Thats some dang tasty fungus there I tell ya.
I saw a recipe for a portabello burger. No meat, just that big old thick mushroom on a bun. Which reminds me what I miss most about Missouri. Morels. Dipped in egg and cracker crumbs and fried in butter.
Heaven.
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newmelleman Fri, Jun 6, 2008 10:47:45am |
re: #839 redstateredneck
We've been doing them on the grill. Just put a little butter and provel cheese on them and take 'em off when the cheese is all melted. The big ones ARE almost a meal on their own.
Just doing a bit of looking around the site since I haven't been around much lately...Lance got the stick?
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 10:48:56am |
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newmelleman Fri, Jun 6, 2008 10:52:20am |
re: #841 redstateredneck
Yep, the boy just didn't know when to shut up.
Too bad. I sure did a lot of things when I was younger and more hot-headed that I regret now. Guess its called mellowing with age. From what I can tell though he could get back in with an email to Charles which I wouldn't bet on him doing either...you never know.
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 10:57:41am |
re: #842 newmelleman
Too bad. I sure did a lot of things when I was younger and more hot-headed that I regret now. Guess its called mellowing with age. From what I can tell though he could get back in with an email to Charles which I wouldn't bet on him doing either...you never know.
I'm sure he would consider that groveling.
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 11:00:38am |
Got to run an errand now. If you're gone when I get back, it was good to see you!
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newmelleman Fri, Jun 6, 2008 11:01:16am |
re: #843 redstateredneck
Yeah.
I didn't really get good at sincere, heart-felt apologies until some years after I was married.
:)
Still don't always put the lid down though...the core values must not be compromised!
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newmelleman Fri, Jun 6, 2008 11:02:30am |
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newmelleman Fri, Jun 6, 2008 12:10:37pm |
Ummm...that bit earlier about it not raining. Scratch that.
:(
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newmelleman Fri, Jun 6, 2008 12:24:44pm |
...and now tornado warning sirens are going off.
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redstateredneck Fri, Jun 6, 2008 12:29:14pm |
Many spiritually advanced people I know (not coweringly religious, mind you, but deeply spiritual) identify Obama as a Lightworker, that rare kind of attuned being who has the ability to lead us not merely to new foreign policies or health care plans or whatnot, but who can actually help usher in a new way of being on the planet, of relating and connecting and engaging with this bizarre earthly experiment. These kinds of people actually help us evolve. They are philosophers and peacemakers of a very high order, and they speak not just to reason or emotion, but to the soul.
Sounds like the antichrist to me.
