Good for US...

ULULULULULULULU

Perhaps we can pick up some momentum and walk away from the entire UN...

We'll be back serving waffles come November.

Now, its time to just leave the rest of the U.N. and we're good to go.

Good for us. Long live Western Democracy, civilzation, and Freedom. To Hell with the Islamic Bloc, and their enablers.

bout time!

About time.

But a question, why not try and get elected to council and change it from the inside? Has that plan already failed? Maybe its just a pipe dream, but I thought it should be asked

Will the Obamessiah reverse this decision?

Reason number 193 why the UN is a Failed Institution.

re: #8 simonml

The UN has lost all meaning. Why waste resources on the inane?

This is long past due- we should not give agenda councils any credibility with our participation.

I can't wait to see the Kostards spin this...

Canada, The UK, France, Germany, Italy, and The Netherlands should do the same.

re: #13 coquimbojoe

I can't wait to see the Kostards spin this...

No doubt some Rovian plot

In related news William Hung finally stopped singing.

re: #8 simonml

To answer your question - the Islamic bloc of 57 nations combined with another bloc of 3rd World socialist leaning countries that also vote in a bloc make it relatively impossible for any legitimate work to get passed through the General Assembly unless they want it to.

If it is in the US interests, the interests of the West, or will protect Israel, then it will not pass. Anything that will damage the West, US, Israel, or redistribute wealth, will get passed.

The UN is surpassing the League of Nations as a failure.

Selective disengagement? I can see U.N. headquarters building from my window here in NYC. I've always thought it would be a great site for a Wal-Mart!

Thank you, Pres. Bush.

Oh, the Left will go into hysterics over this.

The Council replaced the widely discredited U.N. Commission on Human Rights.

Enough with the old, discredited entity. We want a NEW, discredited entity.

Listening to the Dead's Brokedown Palace, "Fare you well". Seems kinda fitting considering....

re: #17 Athos

To answer your question - the Islamic bloc of 57 nations combined with another bloc of 3rd World socialist leaning countries that also vote in a bloc make it relatively impossible for any legitimate work to get passed through the General Assembly unless they want it to.

If it is in the US interests, the interests of the West, or will protect Israel, then it will not pass. Anything that will damage the West, US, Israel, or redistribute wealth, will get passed.

The UN is surpassing the League of Nations as a failure.

I figured that was pretty much what was going on. Aren't we still on the U.N. Security council? that's still pretty important, right?

re: #18 quickjustice

Selective disengagement? I can see U.N. headquarters building from my window here in NYC. I've always thought it would be a great site for a Wal-Mart!

I like the idea of a 38-story Wal-Mart in the Secretariat building... *moonbat heads explode*

re: #4 USA

We'll be back serving waffles come November.

You mean next January 20th?

/let's hope it's neither

Levant: "I simply will not comply."

This is the best news I've seen all day.

re: #21 Occasional Reader

Change!

re: #19 MandyManners

Thank you, Pres. Bush.

And Condi Rice.

As I noted earlier today, they shouldn't just walk, but run, and while they're at it, they should seriously consider taking the money and running.

Why let these guys continue to spew their venom on our dime?

re: #18 quickjustice

Selective disengagement? I can see U.N. headquarters building from my window here in NYC. I've always thought it would be a great site for a Wal-Mart!

That's been my take for years (either a Wal*Mart or a dog park). Implode it first.

We did it so we could keep torturing those poor innocent souls in Gitmo.

A step in the right direction. How soon before we walk out of the entire building?

THE HIGH CONTRACTING PARTIES,

In order to promote international co-operation and to achieve international peace and security

by the acceptance of obligations not to resort to war,
by the prescription of open, just and honourable relations between nations,
by the firm establishment of the understandings of international law as the actual rule of conduct among Governments, and
by the maintenance of justice and a scrupulous respect for all treaty obligations in the dealings of organised peoples with one another,

Agree to this Covenant of the...... League of Nations.

The UN has failed as miserably as the League of Nations failed. Why should we continue with this charade?

American truns and starts to walk away from the two party evil money cult that rules from on high in Washington D.C..

How I do hope that this is a first step toward complete disengagement with the UN. I know that it won't be,although McCain has mentioned the idea of the need for a new organization made up of countries ruled only be democratic forms of government. This Council has been a sick,twisted joke from its inception. I am heartened to hear of the administration effectively telling the UN to "F-off". It's about time. I've posted hear a number of times over the years about one of my most fervent wishes being witnessing the US withdrawing from the UN and commandeering the building,and only giving one last bit of aid to them-help in relocation to Zimbabwe. This fantasy couldn't happen soon enough for me.

But isn't that surrender?

Shouldn't we stay and fight?

We are still going to pay the bills. Who do we think we are teaching a lesson?

I am not so sure this is a good idea.

Just walk away and DO NOT leave the checkbook.

re: #23 simonml

Is the Security Council important? For what?

What does the UNSC really provide as a benefit except enabling actions and behavior it should prevent?

Good ... now if we will only get out of the UN entirely and ship it to Tehran, then implode the building in NYC . . .

re: #17 Athos

We really should get one vote per state.

Anyway, this is great, thank you pres. Bush. You can bet every last cent you have John "Global Test" Kerry or Al Gore would not have done this. And better hope Obama doesn't reverse it.

Pat Buchanan uncovers facts about water boarding being used on Nazis prior to the Nuremberg Trials, declares mistrial.

re: #30 lawhawk

As I noted earlier today, they shouldn't just walk, but run, and while they're at it, they should seriously consider taking the money and running.

Why let these guys continue to spew their venom on our dime?

Ding! Ding! Ding! - Cut off all funds and support. Instead, the US should partner directly with friendly countries to support the humanitarian efforts directly and deal with the problems directly.

Not long ago I heard rumor that the US and western allies were considering forming a new world organization that aspired to western ideals and would put together the financing and manpower (collectively) to achieve truly worthy goals.
I could have dreamt it.

Maybe cutting by half our UN funding, and charging market prices for rent of the facilities, Could kick-start the new organization.

re: #37 Buck

At some point ya gotta admit it's a bad marriage and move on.
(although you'll probably keep paying)

re: #18 quickjustice

Selective disengagement? I can see U.N. headquarters building from my window here in NYC. I've always thought it would be a great site for a Wal-Mart!

Now you don't want to anger the Unions do you?

re: #39 Athos

Is the Security Council important? For what?

What does the UNSC really provide as a benefit except enabling actions and behavior it should prevent?

Although it may not serve much purpose anymore, isn't veto status on a Council with some (albeit very little) international importance still worth something?

Is this the Council DouDou Deine (?) is a member of?

re: #37 Buck

No- our participation gives legitimacy to thugs.

re: #31 Ward Cleaver

Why not turn it into a condo?

Time for a League of Democracies. Trying to make nice with people who don't even begin to share your values is a waste of time. As we saw with the tsunami, Western nations can get a hell of a lot more done when they just get to it.

Walk! Hell, RUN!

re: #37 Buck

Not the way it works. If a "committee" is nothing but rogues and bullies, then all it has is the "authority of the UN" heh.

Kick em out of the US.
Brussels Belgium is probably the best place for them to set up next.

In other news from that cesspool:

UN Elects Ex-Sandinista as Assembly President

[Link: www.voanews.com...]

re: #8 simonml

But a question, why not try and get elected to council and change it from the inside?

Check out the list of countries on the council....Cuba, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, China, Jordan. The whole thing is a joke.

..and when do we walk away from the UN?

Demolish the UN building and make a sports stadium. Bring the Jets back to NY.

re: #37 Buck

But isn't that surrender?

Shouldn't we stay and fight?

We are still going to pay the bills. Who do we think we are teaching a lesson?

I am not so sure this is a good idea.

I look at it the same way as sitting down with Iran to discuss Mideast Peace.
Waste of time for us and a legitimization of their position.

re: #48 Intrepid

Yup.

re: #37 Buck

We DON'T want to lend it credibility.

re: #56 Killgore Trout

Check out the list of countries on the council....Cuba, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, China, Jordan. The whole thing is a joke.

They've got all the experts on human rights violations, where the problem with that?
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re: #37 Buck

But isn't that surrender?

Shouldn't we stay and fight?

We are still going to pay the bills. Who do we think we are teaching a lesson?

I am not so sure this is a good idea.

It's not like we can't responde to their idiotic resolutions from a safe distance away, completely non-associated. Due to the large number of small countries ruled by dictatorships of one stripe or another, we probably don't have a chance of ever having a real influence.
Which is why we should get out entirely, and take as many decent countries with us as we can.

re: #56 Killgore Trout

Check out the list of countries on the council....Cuba, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, China, Jordan. The whole thing is a joke.

Yes, and these are such stellar examples of true human rights within their own borders...

/

Does this mean that we won't be attending The World Conference against Racism, Racial Discrimination, Xenophobia and Related Intolerance Pt II next April?

re: #56 Killgore Trout

Check out the list of countries on the council....Cuba, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, China, Jordan. The whole thing is a joke.

I agree whole heartedly. When Libya was elected chair of the Council it really came to fruition what a joke it is. Then there's the whole condemning Israel and only Israel again and again.

re: #48 Intrepid

Is this the Council DouDou Deine (?) is a member of?

Special Rapporteurs, who are unpaid and serve in a personal capacity, receive their mandates from the UN Commission on Human Rights.

We should have dumped the Un ages ago but with leaving the HRC - they can now drop all pretense and not even bother to do anything but condemn Israel.

re: #47 simonml

Although it may not serve much purpose anymore, isn't veto status on a Council with some (albeit very little) international importance still worth something?

No- not when thugs like saddam and kim jong il can feel free to give us the finger without fear. The UN has no teeth- no one fears them.

re: #61 Gus Bailey

We DON'T want to lend it credibility.

Amen

So, Olmert's comments raise specter of Israeli operation against the Palestinian terrorists in Gaza. Right, let's just ignore the reason that Israel has to conduct those operations in the first place - the ongoing barrages of mortars and rockets that make Southern Israel a very dangerous place to live, and where your life could be turned inside out in less than 15 seconds.

Responsibility for anything that happens in Gaza rests firmly on the heads of Hamas - they wanted war; they declared war on Israel; and Israel might finally (at long last) return the favor, though I worry that Olmert will still prevaricate and waffle his way into a mess.

The UN Human Rights Council:

We stand for the right of theocrats, dictators, totalitarians, and Muslims to never be offended.

re: #69 Sharmuta

No- not when thugs like saddam and kim jong il can feel free to give us the finger without fear. The UN has no teeth- no one fears them.

Yeah. Strongly worded letters tend not to work.

Great news. There's nothing human nor right about that council.

re: #56 Killgore Trout

Check out the list of countries on the council....Cuba, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, China, Jordan. The whole thing is a joke.

Cuba!
China!
Saudi Arabia!
Egypt!
...
I'm gonna run out of exclaimation marks. It really is a joke.

re: #34 Sharmuta

No reason.

I used to subscribe to the Bolton position that being part of it, as flawed as it is, still offers us benefits to work from within to do what we need to do. But I believe now that this institution is too far gone to be recovered.

The only thing remaining is for an American President and Congress to admit the failure that it has become and walk away from it. Our attention should be focused on replacing the UN with a loose organization of our friends and allies to undertake the humanitarian and defense initiatives that are needed in the world.

Let the UN fester in its corruption, malfeasance, sexual slavery, bigotry, and tolerance of fascism.

re: #58 BuddyG

Demolish the UN building and make a sports stadium. Bring the Jets back to NY.

Or the Dodgers to Brooklyn!

re: #62 jcm

Ha ha ha! (Snicker).

Does anyone know if Obama's plan to give a trillion dollars to to this corrupt organization ever passed?

re: #56 Killgore Trout

Check out the list of countries on the council....Cuba, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, China, Jordan. The whole thing is a joke.

The 47 seats in the Council are distributed among the UN's regional groups as follows: 13 for Africa, 13 for Asia, 6 for Eastern Europe, 8 for Latin America and the Caribbean, and 7 for the Western European and Others Group.

We're "others".

re: #79 Neo Con since 9-11

Does anyone know if Obama's plan to give a trillion dollars to to this corrupt organization ever passed?

It failed.

re: #71 lawhawk

You know, you people don't get it, It is Israel's fault. Israel exists ergo it is at fault(i am not sure I used ergo right but I wanted to try to upgrade my language skills). As a Jew, I bear personal responsibilility for Islamic terrorism because we all know that if Jews didn't exist, Islam would join hands with the world and sing Kumbaya.

re: #81 Tigger2005

Thanks.

re: #71 lawhawk

You mean stuff like this, and this?

Don't bother me with the cause here...we're talking effect.

re: #82 madisonsfriend

You know, you people don't get it, It is Israel's fault. Israel exists ergo it is at fault(i am not sure I used ergo right but I wanted to try to upgrade my language skills). As a Jew, I bear personal responsibilility for Islamic terrorism because we all know that if Jews didn't exist, Islam would join hands with the world and sing Kumbaya.

Well, it's about time...

That's CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN!

re: #76 Athos

Let the UN fester in its corruption, malfeasance, sexual slavery, bigotry, and tolerance of fascism.

Absolutely- with not a cent from us. I have a real problem with our tax dollars funding UN missions around the world so they can look the other way while hizbullah rearms, or rape children in Africa- just to name a couple.

re: #73 simonml

Yeah. Strongly worded letters tend not to work.

New UN response, after strongly worded letters: The UNDSWLPWT* takes over.

*UN Division of Strongly Worded Letter Paper Wad Throwers

It's a start. I'm happy to see it.

This Council seems to resemble C.H.A.O.S. or SPECTRE more than one representing the world's hope for Human Rights. The US is right by pulling out of this joke. The UN has become a place for scumbags and despots to act like they are legitimate.....we should start a new world organization that holds the members to things we hold dear.......

re: #80 redstateredneck

We're "others".

We're "outa here".

re: #82 madisonsfriend

You know, you people don't get it, It is Israel's fault. Israel exists ergo it is at fault(i am not sure I used ergo right but I wanted to try to upgrade my language skills). As a Jew, I bear personal responsibilility for Islamic terrorism because we all know that if Jews didn't exist, Islam would join hands with the world and sing Kumbaya.

It sucks that so many people in the world really think this.

re: #83 Neo Con since 9-11

Thanks.

For now, of course.

re: #47 simonml

The veto is immaterial if anything that comes from the UNSC has no meaning or no ability to enforce the resolutions. As Sharm pointed out, the enemies of civilization do not fear the ramifications of UNSC resolutions.

Also remember that the other major powers of WW2 also have vetoes. That means legitimate efforts to put pressure on rogue nations can be torpedoed by another country with a veto if that country prefers to see the damage being done on the West or can make some bucks / gain a critical resource from the rogue nation.

re: #84 WrathofG-d

Time for another Israel bond and I keep talking about buying Caterpillar stock. i know how to buy the bond(I buy one every year) but I have not bought actual stock in many years.

Each American gets a free swing with a sledge hammer at the U.N. Building, and what ever they knock off it they get to keep to show for all the tax money they lost to this pile of shit.

re: #85 tfc3rid

Well, it's about time...

That's CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN!

NOPE!

Walking away isn't bad, but that will just add to the Bush hating.

Walking away from UN would be much more effective.

re: #85 tfc3rid

Every liberal should remember that:

Israel has provided Christians and Muslims with free and complete access control of holy sites in Jerusalem since the Holy City was restored to the Jewish State in the 1967 Six-Day War. ^{(too much if you asked me} During the time the city was occupied by Jordan, from 1948 to 1967, Christians and Jews were prohibited from holy sites.

re: #94 madisonsfriend

Time for another Israel bond and I keep talking about buying Caterpillar stock. i know how to buy the bond(I buy one every year) but I have not bought actual stock in many years.

I hope you didn't by any yesterday.

re: #96 VegasRick

NOPE!

YES WE CAN!

Think how many children could have warm lunches prepared by minority college students on work study programs in poor inner city schools with the money we send to the UN!
/moonbat statist off

Think how many bombers, aircraft carriers, and body armor we could buy with that, and actually have a tangible affect on human rights and international security.

re: #71 lawhawk,

What Israel should do is begin high-altitude bombing of Gaza. Everywhere, anywhere, just bomb Gaza continuously. Inform the Palestinian people that the bombing will stop when they pile the heads (we don't need no stinkin' bodies) of all of Hamas at the border crossing into Israel.

Keep bombing until the condition is met, or there's nothing in Gaza worth bombing. Either way it's a win.

re: #95 taxfreekiller

Each American gets a free swing with a sledge hammer at the U.N. Building, and what ever they knock off it they get to keep to show for all the tax money they lost to this pile of shit.

I'd pay to take a swing at it. Think of how much money we could raise!

Obama would talk

Or the Democrats can have it for a headqts. its a perfect fit.

We've left the room...it's not all that much farther to walk completely out of the building.

re: #98 WrathofG-d

You know how the liberals HATE facts.

It destroys their feelings and perceptions.

re: #93 Athos

The veto is immaterial if anything that comes from the UNSC has no meaning or no ability to enforce the resolutions. As Sharm pointed out, the enemies of civilization do not fear the ramifications of UNSC resolutions.

Also remember that the other major powers of WW2 also have vetoes. That means legitimate efforts to put pressure on rogue nations can be torpedoed by another country with a veto if that country prefers to see the damage being done on the West or can make some bucks / gain a critical resource from the rogue nation.

And, with China never being friendly towards the USA and Czar Vlad holding the reigns of power in the NAIUSSR, there is very little hope of doing anything truly meaningful within the confines of the UN Security Council.

re: #91 simonml

It sucks that so many people in the world really think this.

Well, when Thailand gets terrorist attacks by Islamic fundies- who the hell believes Israel or Jews are involved? How is it that anyone buys the ROP- they will never be at peace while they have the financial backing of wealthy Arabs and the public/written support of Western moonbats.

re: #102 Iron Fist

,

What Israel should do is begin high-altitude bombing of Gaza. Everywhere, anywhere, just bomb Gaza continuously. Inform the Palestinian people that the bombing will stop when they pile the heads (we don't need no stinkin' bodies) of all of Hamas at the border crossing into Israel.

Keep bombing until the condition is met, or there's nothing in Gaza worth bombing. Either way it's a win.

But they might get condemned by the UN Human Rights Council.

re: #103 simonml

I'd pay to take a swing at it. Think of how much money we could raise!

We already have. Now just give me the GD sledgehammer.

I would prefer that we stay on the Human Rights Council and walk away from the General Assembly !

re: #99 Nevergiveup

well, the market dropped I know- so isn't this a good time to buy(if i could figure out what to do to just buy $1000 of Caterpillar stock)

We're the chicken that kept its head.

and the headlines in the world press goes something like this

United States Abandons Human Rights

re: #109 madisonsfriend

Well, when Thailand gets terrorist attacks by Islamic fundies- who the hell believes Israel or Jews are involved? How is it that anyone buys the ROP- they will never be at peace while they have the financial backing of wealthy Arabs and the public/written support of Western moonbats.

You'd be surprised. Its all the Jews' fault!

/

re: #94 madisonsfriend

Those are great ideas..if you want more options, there is always ZOA, and this, and Katif Fund.

re: #110 Nevergiveup,

Send them one of the heads with a strongly worded letter. That would shut the HRC up.

Popular post from yesterday, which seems appropriate to revive:

"Human rights" are a UN construct. They are high-sounding words which, in practice, mean nothing. Most regimes which actually violate anything that can be recognized as a basic "human right" are actually regimes which do not protect individual liberty--i.e., most of the UN member states themselves.

Individual liberty is safeguarded by the protection and enforcement of civil rights under an impartial rule of law. Without civil rights under an impartial rule of law, there is no individual liberty--and there certainly are no "human rights."

"Human rights" are applied to groups, not individuals--and for that reason alone should always be viewed as suspect. When the "human rights" concept is applied in a nation that does protect civil rights, it is always in the service of a group seeking special rights over and above what they are allowed under the law.

"Human rights" began to be introduced into domestic American political discourse after the Civil Rights Movement had won its civil rights victories, and the Marxists, separatists and Islamists who began taking the movement away from King--and were succeeding even before his death--began looking for set-asides, special treatment, and thumbs on the scale because the civil rights the movement initially demanded were not enough for them.

But where "human rights" really got going was with the "gay rights movement." There was no precedent in American law for shoehorning sexual preference into civil rights law, so gay rights activists began speaking of "human rights" as if they were talking about civil rights, just as the Global Warming advocates are now sliding their language into "climate change." That they began this changeover in the 1970s, when the black civil rights movement was still a vivid memory, and were able to build upon the "human rights" ground prepared by those who had co-opted the civil rights movement, made this switch easier.

The Islamist movement, which adopted the term "Islamophobia" from the "homophobia" of the gay rights movement, has also adopted the language of "human rights" as it increasingly demands public accommodation for Islam over and above the equal rights Muslims already enjoy under civil rights law.

EXCLUSIVE! OBAMA-CLINTON TRANSCRIPT

re: #102 Iron Fist

,

What Israel should do is begin high-altitude bombing of Gaza. Everywhere, anywhere, just bomb Gaza continuously. Inform the Palestinian people that the bombing will stop when they pile the heads (we don't need no stinkin' bodies) of all of Hamas at the border crossing into Israel.

Keep bombing until the condition is met, or there's nothing in Gaza worth bom