Taste ye what YOUR hands have wrought!

HA!

I'll give 'em $100 for the rest of their newsprint. I have a cabin in the woods I need to outfit - a little wallpaper and...

...a lifetime supply of TP.

LGF FTW!

HA! HA!

I almost feel bad for the MSM but they should have seen this coming; Check facts, do some research.
/Buh-bye

Poetic justice.

re: #6 lawhawk

Ha!

re: #5 Rollo Treadway

First! Woo-hoo!

uh oh..let the games begin.

Well, nuts - and I actually just missed a chance to be first in a post yesterday.

The dinosaurs drown in their own dung. One by one....

"Newspaper That Attacked LGF Going Under"

How can you get any lower than the sewer?

In a few years we'll have nothing to wrap fish in.

Wait, "more Mormon." What the heck does that mean?

re: #5 Rollo Treadway

You're new here. Might want to check the boilerplate between the post and the comments.

re: #14 JammieWearingFool

In a few years we'll have nothing to wrap fish in.

And the fish will be happy!

re: #11 Rollo Treadway

Well, nuts - and I actually just missed a chance to be first in a post yesterday.

I suggest you read the rules at the top of this thread.

re: #15 mikeyslaw

Wait, "more Mormon." What the heck does that mean?

Less booze and cigarettes.

Look, it's real simple.

Provide news - factual stories about events - the kinds of things that most bloggers can't do because we have other jobs and this is just our hobby. That's your killer app.

The advertising money will be there for those who deliver the killer app well.

You clearly have not.

So Deseret News is owned by the Mormons, who are generally considered politically conservative, yet this extreme right-wing hate blog is celebrating the paper's downfall?

(sound of moonbat heads exploding)

re: #6 lawhawk

HA! HA!

Damnit! Ya beat me to it.

There's being right and there's being nice!

re: #15 mikeyslaw

Wait, "more Mormon." What the heck does that mean?

Maybe it means they will stop defending Islamonuts.

I would imagine the information exists somewhere in investment / financial data.

It would be very interesting to see a line graph of main stream news prints overall financial health spread out over a 10 year period.

It seems like damn near every month you hear about some big paper laying people off, or losing major stock value.

“

There is no question it is a huge punch in the gut to everyone’s morale,” said Editor Joe Cannon on Thursday afternoon following a staff meeting.

It is always a painful revelation to discover your own irrelevancy. Buck up, Joe. Office buildings always need cleaning, and their is nothing wrong with being a janitor.

re: #21 Dar ul Harb

So Deseret News is owned by the Mormons, who are generally considered politically conservative, yet this extreme right-wing hate blog is celebrating the paper's downfall?

(sound of moonbat heads exploding)

Hell, the mayor of SLC is a BDS-infected moonbat.

re: #15 mikeyslaw

Wait, "more Mormon." What the heck does that mean?

Nah... not gonna say it.

re: #22 Spiny Norman

I have got that one saved... for special occasions.

Now if only the ny times would follow suit.

Someone registers nearly a year ago and does something so juvenile with their first initial comment

Good grief.

No wonder the unemployment rate just went up, so many newspapers are 'laying off' so called journalists.

re: #21 Dar ul Harb

So Deseret News is owned by the Mormons, who are generally considered politically conservative, yet this extreme right-wing hate blog is celebrating the paper's downfall?

(sound of moonbat heads exploding)

Don't forget that nutjob BYU prof and his wacko Ward Churchill type theories.

Every religion has their flakes. (Except islam) (all flakes no nuts) (Hey what a cereal promo)

re: #28 lawhawk

I have got that one saved... for special occasions.

So do I! I was just a bit late to the thread.

Too bad, so sad, bye-bye...(er...rather...buh-bwayy)..

re: #24 formercorpsman

Perhaps Americans do not want to support the enemy....

The MSM media is definitely the enemy....

re: #30 JammieWearingFool

Someone registers nearly a year ago and does something so juvenile with their first initial comment

Good grief.

/Maybe he forgot his password.

re: #26 Bob in Breckenridge

Hell, the mayor of SLC is a BDS-infected moonbat.

Oops yep forgot about him too. Thing is I read somewhere that he's been pretty insulting to the LDS church too.

Let's see... the inner struggle guys want to extreriorize (1) the Mormons because the LDS folks won't follow the Big Mo'... but the church owned newspaper won't print the truth about the inner struggle guys even though their fellow Mormons need to know.

Yes. A reorganization is definitely in order here.

1. Exteriorize is a Scientology term for killing someone.

re: #38 The Other Les

Let's see... the inner struggle guys want to extreriorize (1) the Mormons because the LDS folks won't follow the Big Mo'... but the church owned newspaper won't print the truth about the inner struggle guys even though their fellow Mormons need to know.

Yes. A reorganization is definitely in order here.

1. Exteriorize is a Scientology term for killing someone.

That's about it.

Oh shoot, there goes the coffee breaks.

That'll learn 'em.

re: #24 formercorpsman

Here's NYT compared with Gannett, News Corp, WaPo, and the S&P 500.

re: #24 formercorpsman

I would imagine the information exists somewhere in investment / financial data.

It would be very interesting to see a line graph of main stream news prints overall financial health spread out over a 10 year period.

It seems like damn near every month you hear about some big paper laying people off, or losing major stock value.

This blogger has some good info :
[Link: newsosaur.blogspot.com...]

re: #37 Mars Needs Neocons

Oops yep forgot about him too. Thing is I read somewhere that he's been pretty insulting to the LDS church too.

A lefty anti-religious bigot?

/You're joking, correct?

Maybe the old Deseret News is planning to move to our lovely Republic of Texas and closely report the goings on by the fumble-fingered Child Protective Services idjits. Please say it aint so.

I remember that story.... good reporting. I mean there is no reason to think that Talović repeatedly shouting "Allahu Akbar" prior to his death, suggested a religious motive...

/sarc

re: #38 The Other Les

Exteriorize is a Scientology term for killing someone.

"Listen... you tell them about Xenu, and we're gonna put your interior all over your exterior, y'knowwhaddimean?"

I think it's karma.

re: #21 Dar ul Harb

So Deseret News is owned by the Mormons, who are generally considered politically conservative, yet this extreme right-wing hate blog is celebrating the paper's downfall?

(sound of moonbat heads exploding)

Well of course, Mormons largely disapprove of living off of welfare, so on principle they had to find some place to make Salt Lake City's few dozen moonbats go off to for work.

Actually, the need to get more Mormon and more local goes directly to what I was saying above. Local papers have a distinct advantage in that they know their communities, and they've gotten away from that - so they're going to go back to their strengths, which means probably more stories that Mormons want to know about - relating to church activities, business, and world events that affect the Mormon mission.

re: #47 Dar ul Harb

Hail Xenu!

Don't mess with LGF

Thirst!

re: #11 Rollo Treadway

Well, nuts - and I actually just missed a chance to be first in a post yesterday.

There's an art to firsties. Don't use the word "first" blatently. It's a dead givaway.

The Deseret News has gotten pretty funky in recent years. More... Mormonish? Mormonesque?

There was some sort of uproar in the newsroom a while back, regarding editorial independence, I believe. It's long ago fallen through the sieve of my memory, I'm afraid.

“We will become more local, more online, and more Mormon,” he said.

That right there is reason enough to question their objectivity. When any religion plays a part in a newspaper, they're through. I've cited that publication in reports, but will not any longer. IMHO, that paper is no longer worth the paper it's printed on, or the electrons used for its online edition.

Another nail in the coffin of the mainstream media.

re: #46 Buck

I remember that story.... good reporting. I mean there is no reason to think that Talović repeatedly shouting "Allahu Akbar" prior to his death, suggested a religious motive...

/sarc

Well If I ever take up suicide bombing I'll make sure I yell "PINK UNICORNS" before I push the button so no one will be confused on the issue.

re: #44 Bob in Breckenridge

A lefty anti-religious bigot?

/You're joking, correct?

very funny
LOL

re: #51 Boondock St. Bender

Hail Xenu!

Suppressor!

New 'super-paper' is stronger than cast iron

That's what they should have used!

(this is really interesting, sounds like it could be commercialized really quickly)

"Surely the State will step in and make people buy the paper."
Conversation overheard in the Unitoilet.

re: #49 Edouard

Well of course, Mormons largely disapprove of living off of welfare, so on principle they had to find some place to make Salt Lake City's few dozen moonbats go off to for work.

Actually I never thought of it that way. You may be closer to the truth than you know.

re: #54 Honorary Yooper

Hey yoop- did you see the Red Wings and Blackhawks are goingg to play at Wrigley Field on New Years Day? That'll be cool!

The history of newsprint in this country is interesting and inspiring. Unfortunately, many of those currently running print operations are misguided ass-hats.

re: #47 Dar ul Harb

"Listen... you tell them about Xenu, and we're gonna put your interior all over your exterior, y'knowwhaddimean?"

Well according to Ron telling someone about Xenu would cause someone to die from pneumonia. Telling a Scientologist who hasn't hit OT3 usually causes to think that you're trying to kill them.

re: #61 pat

"Surely the State will step in and make people buy the paper."
Conversation overheard in the Unitoilet.

That's it! Nationalize the newspapers! Subsidize 'em!
Just like NPRadio !

re: #63 Bob in Breckenridge

Hey yoop- did you see the Red Wings and Blackhawks are goingg to play at Wrigley Field on New Years Day? That'll be cool!

They're going to play baseball?

In society the moonbats do drift largely to Press, government, and social organizations. I guess it should be true in any area.

re: #63 Bob in Breckenridge

Hey yoop- did you see the Red Wings and Blackhawks are goingg to play at Wrigley Field on New Years Day? That'll be cool!

Yes, and I want a ticket when they come availiable.

re: #35 WhiteRasta

Agreed, no doubt.

It seems that so many newspapers were compelled to diverge from just reporting the news, and delved into shaping the news. (Not big msm, smaller msm outfits, local stuff)

It is almost as if, someone in their corporate structure thought following the Air America model would be a good idea.

Obviously print media like the home town paper will fade out in the face of things like what we do here, but there will always be some semblance of it.

With a country politically divided almost 50/50 for the last 15-20 years, you would think they at least try to match that reporting equation for their own viability.

re: #59 Dar ul Harb

Suppressor!

FAIR GAME!

re: #59 Dar ul Harb

Now,now i'm sure Xenu had a very good reason for doing what he did,we should seek to understand him.(and also why thetans wouldn't be killed by lava alone and must be blown to smithereens by a hydrogen bomb as well.)

re: #67 wolfie

They're going to play baseball?

Outdoor hockey.

All newspapers are going under. Well, almost all. Moody downgraded the entire newspaper industry on 04 June. Editor and Publisher, the industry rag, wrote a surprisingly balanced article about the financial future of newspapers describing their "negative outlook for the next 12 to 18 months," as well as the possibility that even the strongest newspapers will be dragged down by the weakest.

[Link: www.editorandpublisher.com...]

Moody's cites Universal McCann data that shows that the newspaper industry's share of U.S. advertising dropped to 15% from 22% over the past 10 years as a result of fractured media landscape and advances in technology that make news more immediate (and therefore print becomes less relevant).

Moody's analysts anticipate that newspaper advertising revenue will decline in the range of 7% to 9% in 2008 and moderate to low single-digit declines in 2009 -- if the economy recovers next year.

re: #57 The Other Les

Well If I ever take up suicide bombing I'll make sure I yell "PINK UNICORNS" before I push the button so no one will be confused on the issue.

Invisible Pink Unicorn and we will all know where you are coming from.

re: #61 pat

They're obviously not generating the revenue they need, so they'll just have to raise the price.

Someone with private sector experience had suggested that they cut the price, but the publisher demanded to know how he intended to "pay for" the price cut.

re: #42 lawhawk

Ask and ye shall receive.

That chart is hard to argue.

But, the more I think about it, would it be better to have the NYT keep taking a nose-dive given their outright hostility towards at least half of this country?

Something like, you guys are doing everything right, don't change a thing.

re: #56 Sarge1984
Hi Sarge! Um, was the "Desert News" ever really part of the MSM?
I certainly agree that When any religion plays a part in a newspaper, they're through. But, quite frankly I have never heard of 'em before and will certainly not miss them when they're gone. That they hid facts - as Charles correctly points out, its more than enough to say that they weren't acting as a true newspaper by hiding news from it's readership.
Oh, wait, I guess they were actually acting as if they were part of the MSM!

Began shorting the NYT and the LAT about 18 months ago. While it hasn't made me a pile of money, it has been the most fun I have ever had in the market. Unfortunately, the stock doesn't have that far to fall. But it has given a whole new meaning to "Punch."

Since newspapers have been so biased against conservatives, Israel and the WOT, we can guiltlessly enjoy watching them slowly die.

I particularly enjoy watching the MSM "borrows" info from blog sites ... and not the other way around. Finally, one old reporter admitted that blogs lead the news, not newspapers:Today newsrooms are like vegetarian cafeterias, the scoop is most often the purview of cable news channels and more and more frequently Internet sites, the entire typesetting and printing process is electronic, and when the presses roll for the remaining morning papers (there are no evening papers as such anymore), one can only wonder how many years it will be before they are silenced.

[Link: kikoshouse.blogspot.com...]

Of the two newspapers here, I'd rather read the the Deseret News than the leftist rag Salt Lake Tribune (try reading the comments section or letters to the Editor there - it's Moonbat Central), and I hope the DN doesn't go away completely. The DN usually has a fairly good editorial stance.

On a side note, I have no idea what "more Mormon" means, since the paper is pretty Mormon as it is (they have a special "Mormon" section of the paper already).

re: #81 Atoz

Of the two newspapers here, I'd rather read the the Deseret News than the leftist rag Salt Lake Tribune (try reading the comments section or letters to the Editor there - it's Moonbat Central), and I hope the DN doesn't go away completely. The DN usually has a fairly good editorial stance.

On a side note, I have no idea what "more Mormon" means, since the paper is pretty Mormon as it is (they have a special "Mormon" section of the paper already).

Isn't Salt Lake Tribune just the local branch of one of the big ones?

I know the Billings Gazette here is just an organ of the Lee Enterprises. (Which actually makes them more independent then they used to be.)

re: #15 mikeyslaw

Wait, "more Mormon." What the heck does that mean?

Its a news paper, should have read more moronic is my only guess.

re: #83 JeremyR

Its a news paper, should have read more moronic is my only guess.

LOL

Less news, more moron!

re: #67 wolfie

They're going to play baseball?

No, hockey!

re: #55 Cognito

The Deseret News has gotten pretty funky in recent years. More... Mormonish? Mormonesque?

There was some sort of uproar in the newsroom a while back, regarding editorial independence, I believe. It's long ago fallen through the sieve of my memory, I'm afraid.

Since the majority of j-school grads are liberal, the few media organizations with conservative at the top have to be on the lookout for creeping liberalism in their publications. The Desert News may be owned by the Mormon Church, but if they're not paying attention, they're going to end up with a newspaper whose social and political stances are out of touch with their readers (the same thing is true on television, where without a Roger Ailes to play lookout man, Fox News would start to drift left, just the way CNN did in the mid-1980s).

THE FINAL WORD ON NUTRITION....

After an exhaustive review of the research literature, here's the final word on nutrition and health.:

1. Japanese eat very little fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than us.

2. Mexicans eat a lot of fat and suffer fewer heart attacks than us.

3. Chinese drink very little red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks than us.

4. Italians drink excessive amounts of red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks than us.

5. Germans drink beer and eat lots of sausages and fats and suffer fewer heart attacks than us.

6. The French eat foie-gras, full fat cheese and drink red wine and suffer fewer heart attacks than us

CONCLUSION: Eat and drink what you like. Speaking English is apparently what kills you.

Last of the Few.

They also have a funny guardhouse photo that is NSFW.

re: #82 Mars Needs Neocons

Isn't Salt Lake Tribune just the local branch of one of the big ones?

I know the Billings Gazette here is just an organ of the Lee Enterprises. (Which actually makes them more independent then they used to be.)

Yes. The Tribune is owned by The MediaNews Group.

re: #26 Bob in Breckenridge

Hell, the mayor of SLC is a BDS-infected moonbat.

Was. Rocky isn't mayor anymore. Ralph Becker's at least a bit more courteous than Rocky ever was.

re: #89 Fat Jolly Penguin

Was. Rocky isn't mayor anymore. Ralph Becker's at least a bit more courteous than Rocky ever was.

Becker's still moonbattish... Just not over-the-top like that embarrassment Rocky.

re: #90 Atoz

Becker's still moonbattish... Just not over-the-top like that embarrassment Rocky.

I know. My sister was all disappointed that Rocky left, but she said she'd be OK with Becker. That right there told me he was a nut.

While the reorganization of this particular news outlet may be a good thing, it's another data point in an ongoing trend that raises a concern.

As traditional news outlets continue to fail or are further consolidated this eliminates "diversity" of news. This is good, in that more people will find the Internet as a useful and accurate source of news, but bad in that eliminates traditionally "protected" news. Ordinarily, I could give a rat's ass about diversity, however in news, I'd argue it's crucial as the majority of MSM news outlets are very anti-right biased and diversity in news represents a necessary usually more logical and reasoned (from the right) dissenting opinion.

The 'net's a great source but it should never become the ONLY one. It's too easily "controlled" as the Internet itself is NOT Constitutionally protected. So while now dissenting views abound and can easily be found, "protected speech" on the Internet is a myth and exists only up to the point of a lawsuit, or some ISP's TOS violation, whether real or imagined. How many unflattering web sites have been pulled at the request of Jihadi sympathizers under the banner of "racist, or hate content." Even if newsworthy and factually accurate, if someone is offended, the news can effectively be muzzled.

Should this be regarded with feelings of schadenfreude, or apprehension?

I lived in SLC when Deedee Corradini was mayor. She was a major crook. Beautiful state, ugly people, ugly laws.

Their politics are weird, but the religion is even more strange. While people can point to Mitt Romney or Glenn Berck as mormon, don't forget that Harry Reid is a mormon. Why a mormon can be a democrat is almost beyond my comprehension. I can understand people in other faiths being of both political parties, but mormons have made a nice little cult among themselves.

The LDS church is bizarre and beyond reality. You have to ignore history to accept LDS teachings. We see the most extreme of these guys holed up in small communities with 15 year olds being married off... The main church is only about 50% of that kind of weird. And that's a lot.

YESSS!

Roanoke Times and their pet hack Christian Trebjal next!

Hell....why stop there? New York Times and McQuislingClatchy next! And looking at their stocks, it won't be too long, either....

re: #93 ronpaulblimpie

I lived in SLC when Deedee Corradini was mayor. She was a major crook. Beautiful state, ugly people, ugly laws.

(snip)

Gee, uh... thanks.

DeeDee Corradini was a crook, though; I'll give you that.

/not Mormon, so I'm not going to address the rest of it.

As ye sow, so shall ye reap.

re: #93 ronpaulblimpie

Dude. Actual Mormons read this site, and it's really not polite to call us a cult. Cults either live in a compound, isolated from the world, or they don't outlive their founder (see Jonestown). We're a mainstream religion. Y'all seem pretty strange to us, truth be told.

Rocky Anderson is an excommunicated Mormon who was also an ACLU lawyer. SLC proper is very Left because the historic Avenues near the capitol are very popular among the artsy types. Utah Dems voted overwhelmingly for Obama.

In some ways, Salt Lake is the photo negative of Minneapolis, which is a blue state with a strong red contingent. Utah is redder than red, so the 'bats we get tend to head toward the extreme edge.

As for a paper being "finished" when a church owns it, the Deseret News has been around for a good century, under Mormon ownership. The rival rag, The SL Tribune, has been around for about the same amount of time, and they feuded like crazy for decades. Then a few years ago, the same company bought both papers, and they tended to be more alike.

Being "more Mormon" probably means more conservative. The media types in Utah tend to lean leftward, certainly left of the general population, because that's just how journalists pop out of J-school, generally. Besides, they're mostly NOT natives of Utah (or Mormon) but people starting out in a smaller market hoping to go to a larger one.

Anyway, I live in SLC and I don't subscribe to either paper.

Its actually too bad (yes, I am a Mormon), but they were fairly conservative. Joe Cannon is Rep. Chris Cannon's brother and he id very conservative. The Salt Lake Tribune is as liberal as it gets. More Mormon probably means they are gonna play to the local audience a bit more. Frankly, I don't think its gonna work. I could careless about newspapers and I bet most people feel that way.

re: #95 Atoz

I didn't mean ugly as in physical ugly, ugly on the inside. But now that you mention that, it is weird how Mormons all seem to have a similar look to them (white, blue eyes, blond). And how many can be named Caleb, Levi, or Hyrum? It is from the naive people they suckered back in the day who had a million kids who in turn had a million kids. I think they were Scandinavian people... they were the most likely to be "homesick" for their native country and they fell pray to the companionship and togetherness that Mormons offered them.

It started as a cult, so why wouldn't it be a cult now? By all definitions the LDS church is indeed a cult. Just a quick snapshot of the religion (created by a man who stuck his head in a top hat with two magical seer stones to translate ancient text from a giant gold tablet he found in the woods after an angel pointed it out to him) would make someone question "is this a christian church"? It isn't. They believe when you die you become a god of your own planet.

I'm not very religious, but I have strong feelings toward the LDS church after much research...the best was their own history books written by themselves. Bizarre stuff.

There are certainly very interesting and unique aspects of their history, especially in regards to the pioneer days and their trek to Utah. But then there are your "mountain meadows massacre" stuff as well.

At least they don't attack people in this day and age.

re: #99 ronpaulblimpie

Cult: A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader.
The followers of such a religion or sect.

It is 100% fact that the mormons started as a cult under Joseph Smith who was indeed very charasmatic...I'm not sure about how "authoritarian" he was, but it can't be disputed about Brigham Young's authoritarian views.

The mormons believe in a "living prophet". The leader speaks "directly to god". And in the past it meant exactly that. Now mormons convince themselves that it means something else. Bizarre.

Also watching their wacked out propaganda film is pretty crazy. I tried not to laugh as people cried because it was so cheezy. Obviously, not being a mormon I wasn't under the spell of that kind of junk. It convinced me even further about the cult-like aspects of that bizarre faith.

I may appear "weird" to you because I don't believe that magical seer stones do much other than sink to the bottom of a lake/river when you drop them in?

re: #100 ronpaulblimpie

And before you attack me for laughing at the mormons misery on that propaganda film: that's not why I laughed. There were people crying like babies. The movie accomplished what it was supposed to in those guys, I guess. They should add the "mountain meadows massacre" edition at the end.

re: #101 ronpaulblimpie

The movie and its evil timing helped accomplish the sabotaging of Mitt Romney's Presidential bid- thats about it.

re: #99 ronpaulblimpie

Gee. I've known a few Mormons and none of them were blue-eyed blondes.
None of them were named Caleb, Levi, or Hyram either.

Is there some point to your anti-Mormon screed, or are you just venting for the fun of it?

re: #103 wolfie

Gee. I've known a few Mormons and none of them were blue-eyed blondes.
None of them were named Caleb, Levi, or Hyram either.

Is there some point to your anti-Mormon screed, or are you just venting for the fun of it?

"Anti-mormon" is the label placed on anything that doesn't portray that cult in a good light. Meanwhile, the LDS church has paid apologists out to spread disinformation about the church by glossing over history.

If I'm not "leaving the poor, innocent cult members" alone, I'm obviously anti-mormon with some kind of vendetta against them so anything I say is not true at all.

What is the name of your planet going to be when you get your god status? Planet cybertron? That's cool. To each his own. I do believe that I won't be able to point and laugh at these guys in the afterlife from whatever part of hell we'd be sharing. But here's hoping... (to having a hell, not to the mormons false heaven of planet ownership to the remax god of the galaxy)

The Minneapolis Star Tribune has lost 18% of their circ over the last 18 months.

re: #104 RonPaulBlimpie

Not even going to argue with you. Just want to call you an idiot. Take your bigotry somewhere else.

re: #92 brickthruplateglasswindow

While the reorganization of this particular news outlet may be a good thing, it's another data point in an ongoing trend that raises a concern.

As traditional news outlets continue to fail or are further consolidated this eliminates "diversity" of news. This is good, in that more people will find the Internet as a useful and accurate source of news, but bad in that eliminates traditionally "protected" news. Ordinarily, I could give a rat's ass about diversity, however in news, I'd argue it's crucial as the majority of MSM news outlets are very anti-right biased and diversity in news represents a necessary usually more logical and reasoned (from the right) dissenting opinion.

The 'net's a great source but it should never become the ONLY one. It's too easily "controlled" as the Internet itself is NOT Constitutionally protected. So while now dissenting views abound and can easily be found, "protected speech" on the Internet is a myth and exists only up to the point of a lawsuit, or some ISP's TOS violation, whether real or imagined. How many unflattering web sites have been pulled at the request of Jihadi sympathizers under the banner of "racist, or hate content." Even if newsworthy and factually accurate, if someone is offended, the news can effectively be muzzled.

Should this be regarded with feelings of schadenfreude, or apprehension?

Check your numbers. Each MSM outlet that goes under actually increases the spread of views available, relative to the number of outlets, by chipping away at the monolithic leftist MSM bloc. I hear what you are saying, but there's a long way to go before your concern outweighs the good done by torpedoing leftist MSM outlets.

re: #99 ronpaulblimpie

Is that youuuuuuu, A. Van Hilten?

Probably has more to do with the price than the tripe these type of organizations print.

Sarc

SLCDN got it coming for messing with the LGF. It's all karma, baby!

it's never good to lie and mislead and conceal.
most business people frown on being associated w/ that kind of behavior.
they are concerned w/ their bottom line.
and not the controversial , obnoxious, off putting views of the rags in which they advertise.

I'm a Mormon also, blond (grey actually but when I was younger...) and blue eyed. I guess there is a cup of kool aid I should be drinking to please those who don't agree with my chosen religion?

re: #74 hermeneutics

Well, that's an interesting read. Did you catch the last paragraph where they talk about exploiting their infrastructure to utilize more "user-generated content."

Heh. They can't even bring themselves to say "wiki" or "blog" or "social networking" out loud. And if they think internet-savvy users will save their sorry asses, they've got another thing coming unless they alter their administrative content. I think Charles is proof of that.

Of course, this data does warm my heart.
(Original story is gone, sorry)
Be sure to read the text at the bottom.

Once upon a time I used to live in SLC. The Deseret News is just a Mormon rag.
I don't see how it can be "more Mormon" That is an impossibility.A cult resides in a separate isolationist region, apart from the rest of the world. That is called Utah!
'nuff said.

To quote the great Rev Wright: Their chickens....are coming home......to roost.

(You have to say it with his rhythm and with the creepy tone to his voice on "to roost".)

I wish Charles hadn't posted this, for two reasons: one, it looks like he is gloating (even though I agree with him on his original point); two, the anti-Mormon bigots are coming out of the woodwork.

re: #107 haakondahl

Check your numbers. Each MSM outlet that goes under actually increases the spread of views available, relative to the number of outlets, by chipping away at the monolithic leftist MSM bloc. I hear what you are saying, but there's a long way to go before your concern outweighs the good done by torpedoing leftist MSM outlets.

G'mornin' Haak.
I hope you're right. I could just be gaming too far forward a trend that might not even continue. Although, I believe it will and will quickly accelerate unless some changes are made. JMHO. My worst case scenario,..

Only a few struggling outlets remain. The rest could not survive or adapt to the changing markets. The remaining few will have been consolidated and concentrated many times over absorbing the smaller failing entities previously, so the "power of the press" would be even further concentrated in the hands of a fewer, few, compared to now. When they can no longer operate profitably, the Gov't (recognizing the uh...importance of a free unbiased press) graciously steps in and offers to "support" the remaining concerns. Nothing sinister, mind you just acting as temporary custodians, paying all salaries, and absorbing all related expenses no longer supported by ad revenues. It'll play out like....People gotta' work, after all, and the sanctity of the free press cannot be sullied. Of course the outlets themselves continue to function as normal, and would retain full editorial control, and We the Gov't, will take care of the mundane things like actually paying the people who author and approve the editorial content. All the while extolling the virtues and importance of maintaining a "free press." It will all sound perfectly reasonable at the time.

He who pays the piper calls the tune. /Tin foil off.

Seems that the left-leaning media outlets obsessed with pushing their political agenda rather than reporting news objectively are losing the most readship/viewership. You'd think one of their board members who had any business sense would wake up and smell the coffee...

that's called getting their just deserets

/rim shot

The Deseret News is far more liberal than you might think. There is a Saturday morning section for Mormons, but much of the news actually has a more liberal slant to it. Salt Lake City proper is not predominantly Mormon. There is a very large and vocal liberal faction that controls pretty much everything. I've worked for the state twice and each time, LDS workers were discriminated against.

There are nuts jobs who are Mormon, just as there are in any other group of people. But far and away most Mormons I know are fine, honest, smart people. They are not perfect, but most try their best to be the best people they can be. Instead of bashing them, we should be grateful for them because this country needs all the good people we can get.