Well, what the hell difference does it make if he knows what is right, if he doesn't do what is right?

Weird anti-Semitic rant of the day

    Hugo Chavez already has paranoia, stealing food from the starving, plundering his country's economy, and using terrorism to destabilize a neighbor on his dictatorial resume. However, no mad tyrant's career can be considered complete without a bizarre  anti-Semitic screed.

In its May 15, 2008 edition, Moscow News published an interview in
which Ambassador Navarro Rojas said that among those involved in a
failed coup d’etat of April 11, 2002, aimed at overthrowing Hugo
Chávez, there were "many Mossad snipers, who were Venezuelan citizens
but Jews."

    Protocols of the Elders of Caracas?

Michael R

Ah....an open thread where I can put up my legs...

Yay I managed to stay conscious till the morning thread

I'm not sure Mikey 'Are You Gonna Eat That' Moore covered this procedure on the Island Prison Socialist paradise known as Cuba.

Then again, if he underwent the procedure himself, he'd show up as Mikey Moore and leave as Rosie O'Donnel.

re: #4 Neo Con since 9-11

Yay I managed to stay conscious till the morning thread

And I finally managed to register on LGF by staying up to an unObamaly hour. *waves to all Lizards*

I come bearing waffles.

re: #5 Fenway_Nation

I'm not sure Mikey 'Are You Gonna Eat That' Moore covered this procedure on the Island Prison Socialist paradise known as Cuba.

Then again, if he underwent the procedure himself, he'd show up as Mikey Moore and leave as Rosie O'Donnel.

Our CPA looks exactly like him.. Fortunately he has a sense of humor - and is conservative.

Slow morning, Goodnight folks.....

re: #6 vbspurs

Howdy!

Stick the waffles on the buffet -------------->

Thank you! :-)

Registration was open?

My eyelids have commenced to pulling downwards in a way I cannot defend against.

G'night ya'll! Thanks, littleoldlady, for the fruitcup! You keep us healthy here!

Fruity waffles?

re: #6 vbspurs

And I finally managed to register on LGF by staying up to an unObamaly hour. *waves to all Lizards*

I come bearing waffles.

Welcome then. But just let us alone until we finish them.

Holy raccoon feathers batman! Do I see an open registration this early?

Littleoldlady: Still is! Thanks for the welcome. ;)

Fenway_Nation: Blueberry waffles. IHOP quality. Mmm.

joe! :-)

'Night, Intrepid! :-)

Fenway - blueberry waffles for ALL!

Hiya granny! :-)

Charles left registration open all night?!

_{ruh roh}

re: #13 vbspurs

Blueberry waffles! YEAH!

;-)

Wait - holy crap! Registration is open now? This late at night?

Welcome vbspurs - good to see ya and welcome aboard!

Sorta freaky that this is the case....

re: #12 Neo Con since 9-11

Holy raccoon feathers batman! Do I see an open registration this early?

Dear heavens you do! I don't think I've ever seen such a thing.

BTW, I read somewhere a couple of days ago that studies show that those who are strict observers of the islamic prayer schedule manage just 27 productive minutes per day. All of the rest is taken up going to , coming from, preparing for or praying. No wonder their countries are all third world holes.

re: #14 littleoldlady

joe! :-)

'Night, Intrepid! :-)

Fenway - blueberry waffles for ALL!

Hiya granny! :-)

Morning littleoldlady. How's things?

re: #15 littleoldlady

No I think it just opened and I think vbspurs is our first hatching aboard

re: #15 littleoldlady

Charles left registration open all night?!

_{ruh roh}

Musta had some kind of emergency that took him away from things.

Open registration! My sock puppet is feeling particularly frisky this morning!

Granny and Little old lady. Please help me drag the newbie onto the delousing deck.

Thanks for the welcome, Intrepid, et. al. I stand at the ready for the delousing treatment after I catch a couple of winks. "Night"!

re: #23 Neo Con since 9-11

Granny and Little old lady. Please help me drag the newbie onto the delousing deck.

I don't know Neo. Newbie is funny and brought waffles. Might be a keeper.

re: #18 galloping granny

Well that explains A LOT, doesn't it?

Registration was open all night at least once that I can remember. But if it just opened up Charles must have it on some kind of auto-start. Like this thread. Maybe WITH this thread...?

Blueberry waffles.

/okay in my book! :-)

I hope someone registers as Sasquatch.

re: #18 galloping granny

Dear heavens you do! I don't think I've ever seen such a thing.

BTW, I read somewhere a couple of days ago that studies show that those who are strict observers of the islamic prayer schedule manage just 27 productive minutes per day. All of the rest is taken up going to , coming from, preparing for or praying. No wonder their countries are all third world holes.

Normally I would make fun of those who only manage 27 productive minutes a day. Then I got registered here and now I only get 20 minutes a day.

re: #28 Ojoe

I heard Sasquatch was firmly in the Obama camp.

Isn't Sasquatch a super-delegate?

re: #29 Neo Con since 9-11

Had to plus you for that. :-/

/oy. me2

I had to wait 2 years to become a lizard. This open registration hacks me off. But welcome to all new members. Don't make us put a foot in you ass!

re: #26 littleoldlady

Well that explains A LOT, doesn't it?

Registration was open all night at least once that I can remember. But if it just opened up Charles must have it on some kind of auto-start. Like this thread. Maybe WITH this thread...?

Auto start would solve a whole lot of problems for Charles and free him up in a big way. Nothing worse about owning a busy website than being chained to the machine playing boss.

re: #30 theres_a_party_in_my_jinns_and_youre_invited

Actually I'm Sasquatch, unless someone else registers here; then I'll let them be Sasquatch.

Sasquatch cannot be fooled, so Sasquatch obviously is not a Democratic superdelegate.

re: #34 Ojoe

Actually I'm Sasquatch, unless someone else registers here; then I'll let them be Sasquatch.

Sasquatch cannot be fooled, so Sasquatch obviously is not a Democratic superdelegate.

I assumed Sasquatch's only source of information was the MSM and that he (or she) wanted to be saved from the sinister, greedy, war-mongering, totalitarian, right-wing, Dominionist christians who would let Sasquatch (or Sasquatch's partner) get an abortion....

would

Er...Wouldn't

Sasquatch live in redwood forest. Get information directly from Great Spirit.

Finally, proud new Lizard here.......

re: #38 Bogeyfre

Welcome to the collective Winston Churchill.

re: #38 Bogeyfre

see #32

Bogeyfre!

Howdy! :-) Have some fruitcup!

re: #38 Bogeyfre

Welcome, new lizard.

Updated Icon.

Go Cards, Cubs will fall eventually.....

re: #43 Bogeyfre

Oooooooooohhh...momma winger's gonna' whack you!

Welcome!

re: #43 Bogeyfre

Love the Cards and the Cubs, GO RAYS, look out.

re: #43 Bogeyfre

This is a centrist blog, it only appears rightist in comparison with the 5th column media.

Hmm, an automatic registration window generator?

re: #29 Neo Con since 9-11

Normally I would make fun of those who only manage 27 productive minutes a day. Then I got registered here and now I only get 20 minutes a day.

LOL!

Of course, the fewer minutes they have to actually implement their nefarious schemes, the better, IMHO.

Where is everybody?

Lemme check the Spy...

re: #49 Dar ul Harb

Most lizards sleepeth now.

re: #10 Fenway_Nation

Fruity waffles?

I have the whipped cream so we can make big, fat, sloppy Belgian waffles.

Ohhhhh! So THAT'S what the Spy is for!

/always a day late & a dollar short...

Hiya Dar! :-)

I'm (nonvirtually) hungry.

/wonder why? ;-)

re: #52 littleoldlady

Ohhhhh! So THAT'S what the Spy is for!

/always a day late & a dollar short...

Hiya Dar! :-)

Where be the Spy?

Johnson sucked at that.

re: #49 Dar ul Harb

I still cannot break the habit of getting up before the sun even though The Kid's been out of school for two weeks.

re: #54 galloping granny

Top left near the registration stuff.

re: #56 MandyManners

I still cannot break the habit of getting up before the sun even though The Kid's been out of school for two weeks.

The kiddo here is always out of school and I'm always up before the sun. She, however, is beginning to develop sleeping in as a fine art.

re: #54 galloping granny

Where be the Spy?

He be right here.

re: #56 MandyManners

Here is Saint Patrick's morning prayer for you:

Saint Patrick’s Breastplate:

I arise today
Through a mighty strength, the invocation of the Trinity,
Through the belief in the threeness,
Through confession of the oneness
Of the Creator of Creation.

I arise today
Through the strength of Christ's birth with his baptism,
Through the strength of his crucifixion with his burial,
Through the strength of his resurrection with his ascension,
Through the strength of his descent for the judgment of Doom.

I arise today
Through the strength of the love of Cherubim,
In obedience of angels,
In the service of archangels,
In hope of resurrection to meet with reward,
In prayers of patriarchs,
In predictions of prophets,
In preaching of apostles,
In faith of confessors,
In innocence of holy virgins,
In deeds of righteous men.

I arise today
Through the strength of heaven:
Light of sun,
Radiance of moon,
Splendor of fire,
Speed of lightning,
Swiftness of wind,
Depth of sea,
Stability of earth,
Firmness of rock.

I arise today
Through God's strength to pilot me:
God's might to uphold me,
God's wisdom to guide me,
God's eye to look before me,
God's ear to hear me,
God's word to speak for me,
God's hand to guard me,
God's way to lie before me,
God's shield to protect me,
God's host to save me
From snares of devils,
From temptations of vices,
From everyone who shall wish me ill,
Afar and anear,
Alone and in multitude.

I summon today all these powers between me and those evils,
Against every cruel merciless power that may oppose my body and soul,
Against incantations of false prophets,
Against black laws of pagandom
Against false laws of heretics,
Against craft of idolatry,
Against spells of witches and smiths and wizards,
Against every knowledge that corrupts man's body and soul.
Christ to shield me today
Against poison, against burning,
Against drowning, against wounding,
So that there may come to me abundance of reward.

Christ with me, Christ before me, Christ behind me,
Christ in me, Christ beneath me, Christ above me,
Christ on my right, Christ on my left,
Christ when I lie down, Christ when I sit down, Christ when I arise,
Christ in the heart of every man who thinks of me,
Christ in the mouth of everyone who speaks of me,
Christ in every eye that sees me,
Christ in every ear that hears me.

I arise today
Through a mighty strength, the invocation of the Trinity,
Through belief in the threeness,
Through confession of the oneness,
Of the Creator of Creation.

re: #58 galloping granny

The kiddo here is always out of school and I'm always up before the sun. She, however, is beginning to develop sleeping in as a fine art.

I don't think I appreciated sleep before I had The Kid.

Dos anyone here have enough confidence in the American electorate to believe that we can sqash Obama like the bug he is?

re: #62 tappin52

I'm starting to have nightmares, since you ask. :-(

wow. I am travelling and typing this on my I-phone so I don't know how to link to the fantastic article I just read over at AmericanThinker. Maybe some of you have read it? Its about Obama and his black liberation theology dated June 5. I HIGHLY recommend it. It spells out all to clearly the utter shit that Obama believes. He expressed his beliefs to anyone who will listen, but in such a subtle and nuanced way that only those who know the background info will get what he is really saying.

re: #60 Ojoe

Why, thank you, Ojoe! That's very sweet.

Did I kill the thread?.................sorry

re: #62 tappin52

Yes. Even Democrats were not voting for him as much lately in the primaries.

re: #62 tappin52

Dos anyone here have enough confidence in the American electorate to believe that we can sqash Obama like the bug he is?

I vacillate.

re: #65 MandyManners

I try and read it most mornings.

But it is still night here.

Later when the birds start tweeting I'll go outside and read it.

re: #64 tigerwoman

This one?

Richard N. Weltz

Once again, Barack Obama has demonstrated serious gaps in actual knowledge of the subjects on which he so charmingly pontificates.

The Democratic candidate, who prior to the past years or so, seems never to have had a problem with friends who didn't like Israel, stood up before a meeting of the America-Israel Public Action Committee (AIPAC) yesterday in Washington, DC, and spoke every pro-Israel platitude he judged that the crowd wanted to hear.

SNIP

re: #61 MandyManners

I don't think I appreciated sleep before I had The Kid.

I understand that. I appreciate sleep again, but unfortunately I am now much too old to lie down for more than 5 or 6 hours at a shot at the very best. Habit of a lifetime I guess.

What I have found amazing in this election, is the total abandoment of the Clinton's by the MSM. A year ago, Hillary could no wrong, as far as the media was concerned. Six months ago, the journalists decided to change candidates and now Hillary can do no right. With friends like this, who needs enemies!

re: #62 tappin52

Dos anyone here have enough confidence in the American electorate to believe that we can sqash Obama like the bug he is?

The only thing that gives me some confidence is this. For the first time in living memory every single member of my family (including those who married in), without any discussion, has independently concluded that they will not vote for Obama under any circumstances. Or throw their vote out the window on a third party candidate. Or stay home.

/This never, never happens in my family.

re: #70 MandyManners

This one?

Probably this one.

re: #72 LoFlyer

What I have found amazing in this election, is the total abandoment of the Clinton's by the MSM. A year ago, Hillary could no wrong, as far as the media was concerned. Six months ago, the journalists decided to change candidates and now Hillary can do no right. With friends like this, who needs enemies!

Yeah, that has really made me wonder how the heck much the media moguls have been paid and who the heck is pulling the strings. Talk about the princess thrown to the wolves!

re: #72 LoFlyer

I think that one of the best advantages of the internet and blogs is that the abused power of the MSM has been laid bare.

(That was Part 2.)

Obama's Black Liberation Theology and Karl Marx
Pt. 1, Pt. 2

re: #71 galloping granny

I just wish I could still take the power naps I took while I was pregnant. Very refreshing.

re: #75 galloping granny

My family will probably vote Obama, I am sure the topic will come up during Fathers day, and my nephew and I will be hounded by the rest. I will give 'em some good arguments though!

re: #73 galloping granny

The only thing that gives me some confidence is this. For the first time in living memory every single member of my family (including those who married in), without any discussion, has independently concluded that they will not vote for Obama under any circumstances. Or throw their vote out the window on a third party candidate. Or stay home.

/This never, never happens in my family.

My sister, the homosexual moonbat, and my mother, the Yellow Dog Democrat, are both voting for McCain.

re: #74 Dar ul Harb

Probably this one.

Yep.

Lyndon Johnson, for better or worse, was able to push through the great majority of modern Civil Rights legislation. Think he caught a clue here and there to say the least.

-S-

re: #75 galloping granny

Yeah, that has really made me wonder how the heck much the media moguls have been paid and who the heck is pulling the strings. Talk about the princess thrown to the wolves!

Murdoch is buds with Soros.

Good morning lizards, 64 degress and foggy here along the Lake Michigan shoreline... I'm listening to the wail of the foghorn as I enjoy my first cup of coffee. If the fog burns off before 10, I'll probably take the dog down to the lighthouse for a walk.

We've had a lot of rain here over the last couple of days and everything feels damp. It's a bad time for my basement dehumidifier to be pooping out, so first order of business this morning (after the DDT) is to open it up and try to fix it. I know nothing about small appliance repair, but it never hurts to open it up and take a peek in case its' something obvious.

Had a call from my Marine last night... it was very good to hear his voice. He's going to be home for a visit on the 22nd, and will probably stay through to July 7th.

I see that the US is finally sticking it to the UN.... good on us. If only we could find the balls to go all the way, and pull out completely.

re: #73 galloping granny

HA. I went to a bat mitzvah a couple of weeks ago loaded for bear. I didn't get the chance to fight with anyone because they're all voting McCain.

/I had to dance! ;-)

re: #77 Dar ul Harb

Good quote from B16 in the article:

Just one nugget from the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, "Instruction on Certain Aspects of the ‘Theology of Liberation':

"...it would be illusory and dangerous to ignore the intimate bond which radically unites them (liberation theologies), and to accept elements of the marxist analysis without recognizing its connections with the (Marxist) ideology, or to enter into the practice of the class-struggle and of its marxist interpretation while failing to see the kind of totalitarian society to which this process slowly leads."
- (Author: Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, Prefect, now Pope Benedict XVI; written in 1984)

re: #80 MandyManners

We are seeing the train wreck of the Democratic Party.

Only the mainstream media pundits will be surprised.

re: #85 littleoldlady

/I had to dance! ;-)

I will be dancing in a few weeks at my son's wedding. Almost all conservatives, country music, avid hunters,etc. And this is New York!

re: #84 irish rose

Good morning lizards, 64 degress and foggy here along the Lake Michigan shoreline... I'm listening to the wail of the foghorn as I enjoy my first cup of coffee. If the fog burns off before 10, I'll probably take the dog down to the lighthouse for a walk.

We've had a lot of rain here over the last couple of days and everything feels damp. It's a bad time for my basement dehumidifier to be pooping out, so first order of business this morning (after the DDT) is to open it up and try to fix it. I know nothing about small appliance repair, but it never hurts to open it up and take a peek in case its' something obvious.

Had a call from my Marine last night... it was very good to hear his voice. He's going to be home for a visit on the 22nd, and will probably stay through to July 7th.

I see that the US is finally sticking it to the UN.... good on us. If only we could find the balls to go all the way, and pull out completely.

Hello Rose, glad to hear your Marine is doing well and will be home soon! The US pulling out of the UN Human rights committee is a step in the right direction. I like McCain's idea of starting a league of Democracies. It will be interesting to see who ponies up the cash for the UN when the US pulls out. Let's see, Saudi Arabia, China or Russia? My bet is the Suads will come up with the cash, China and Russia are to damn cheap......If they don't the UN will fall apart....

re: #88 tappin52

Mazel tov! :-)

Big pull quote from the article:

Obama was raised by his mother, the agnostic anthropologist, to regard religion as "an expression of human culture...not its wellspring, just one of the many ways -- and not necessarily the best way -- that man attempted to control the unknowable and understand the deeper truths about our lives." (Audacity of Hope; p. 204)

However, when Barack Obama met Jeremiah Wright in the mid-eighties, between his years at Columbia and Harvard Law, he found a "faith" perfectly accommodating to his already well-formed worldview.

From The Audacity of Hope:

"In the history of these (African people's) struggles, I was able to see faith as more than just a comfort to the weary or a hedge against death; rather, it was an active, palpable agent in the world." (p. 207)

As Obama explains further, it was Wright's (and presumably Cone's, as required of new members at Trinity) peculiar form of Christianity that Obama found palatable:

"It was because of these newfound understandings (at Trinity under Wright) -- that religious commitment did not require me to suspend critical thinking, disengage from the battle for economic and social justice...that I was finally able to walk down the aisle of Trinity...and be baptized."

Wright's vision of Christianity was perfectly appetizing to Barack Obama; he didn't need to change a thing.

Well, that's just sad. It's not the Barack Obama that I know... ;)

If the US pulls out of the UN, where will the UN headquarters move to?
/Mecca?

re: #87 Ojoe

We are seeing the train wreck of the Democratic Party.

Only the mainstream media pundits will be surprised.

I'd love to see HRC go third-party.

Slurp, masticate, burp. Napkin. Fruitcup and blueberry waffles, red is gonna lose his mind. lol dances, irish rose(Miss 4 Million) walks the dog, life is good in lizard land.
So when I retired from my desk job I decided I needed a productive hobby. I started working at a motorcycle dealer, uncrating , assembling and prepping bikes. Great productive use of my "leisure time". Now gas is $4 a gallon and I am getting smacked. I shoulda learned to play golf.

Wow! This is a very early thread. Did Charles get up to go bicycling, or did he have someone throwing up (loudly) in the alley outside his bedroom window, like I did, for what seemed like ALL NIGHT, keeping him awake?

Good morning, Lizards.

I have come to the conclusion (based upon current electoral maps) that this election is going to come down to Pennsylvania. And if it comes to Pennsylvania, it invariably depends upon the 4 suburban counties bordering Philadelphia. Hillary did fairly well here.

/there's hanging chads all over my backyard!
//ACK!

re: #95 Isobutyrate

Wow! This is a very early thread. Did Charles get up to go bicycling, or did he have someone throwing up (loudly) in the alley outside his bedroom window, like I did, for what seemed like ALL NIGHT, keeping him awake?

Are you the one that threw the shoe at me? :)

re: #95 Isobutyrate

Wow! This is a very early thread. Did Charles get up to go bicycling, or did he have someone throwing up (loudly) in the alley outside his bedroom window, like I did, for what seemed like ALL NIGHT, keeping him awake?

Charles is running the site on autopilot, he kicks off the morning thread auto-magically!

re: #99 LoFlyer

I should have known.

re: #80 MandyManners

My sister, the homosexual moonbat, and my mother, the Yellow Dog Democrat, are both voting for McCain.

That is exactly what I mean.

re: #98 greenmiler

There's nothing like hearing someone hurling to make you feel sick yourself.

re: #92 LoFlyer

If the US pulls out of the UN, where will the UN headquarters move to?
/Mecca?

They are building a new hq in N.Y as we speak aren't they?

re: #102 Isobutyrate

You shoulda kept yelling,

Ralph's not here, go to sleep!

re: #93 MandyManners

I'd love to see HRC go third-party.

I wouldn't. That would really muddle the waters and might very well result in an Obama win.

My impression is that the media is "creating" Obama. Although there are many things I don't like about McCain, I will support him because he is clearly the better choice for Commander-in-Chief.

I also think that McCain's POW experience taught him patience and timing. I think he's going to wait until September before he turns the simmer to a boil.

re: #102 Isobutyrate

There's nothing like hearing someone hurling to make you feel sick yourself.

I remember a 10 hour flight across the US in a C-118, the air conditioning wasn't running well and crossing the rockies we ran into turbulance and guys started ralphing. The rest of us wanted from the smell. We were damn glad to get on the ground a couple hours later...

re: #88 tappin52

/I had to dance! ;-)

I will be dancing in a few weeks at my son's wedding. Almost all conservatives, country music, avid hunters,etc. And this is New York!

You must live Upstate.

re: #106 goddessoftheclassroom

My impression is that the media is "creating" Obama. Although there are many things I don't like about McCain, I will support him because he is clearly the better choice for Commander-in-Chief.

I also think that McCain's POW experience taught him patience and timing. I think he's going to wait until September before he turns the simmer to a boil.

I also think that POW experience taught him about the true face of evil.

re: #107 LoFlyer

Aromatherapy!

re: #93 MandyManners

Yes, I'd like to see her go 3rd party too, and because she deserves more respect than the Democrats have given her.

re: #95 Isobutyrate
Yuck! Stay out of the alley.

re: #88 tappin52

/I had to dance! ;-)

I will be dancing in a few weeks at my son's wedding. Almost all conservatives, country music, avid hunters,etc. And this is New York!

I LOVE to dance, too! Do you expect many single gentlemen among the guests, say, 40-50is? Do you mind wedding crashers? :)

Another good pull quote, this one from Part 2:

After 20 years, Obama has resigned his membership at Trinity United Church of Christ. He did so after Rev. Michael Pfleger's rants against Hillary Clinton's white privilege made such a splash on the internet and television news.

But Obama's attempts to distance himself now from Trinity, Wright, Pfleger, Farrakhan and Cone mean nothing to me. He can, in my mind, no more disown them now, than he could months ago.

The Black Liberation Theology of TUCC that he chose as an adult is the only religious foundation, save the Islam he learned as a young child in an Indonesian school, that Barack Obama has ever had in his life.

Discovering Black Liberation Theology in Wright's church was the one thing that enabled Obama to see that those believing in a far left political ideology could also have religion. Obama's mother had taught him this wasn't the case.

Wright showed him another way, a Third Way.

re: #96 goddessoftheclassroom

Yo!

re: #107 LoFlyer

Ah yes, the Mighty C118. I got to visit a goodly part of the world crewing on those beauties.
Jets go whoosh
Pistons go "per diem, per diem"

re: #108 galloping granny

You must live Upstate.

I am in lower Sullivan County, which is in the Southern Tier, but considered upstate to the city folks.

re: #113 goddessoftheclassroom
I'm sur there will be a few.........come on over LOL.

re: #115 MandyManners

Yo!

{MandyManners}

Good morning! I hope your day isn't as busy as mine is. One of the (many) hard things about being a single parent is transporting the kids to where they need to be.

Until a person stands in our shoes, he or she can't really understand.

re: #110 greenmiler

Aromatherapy!

Could of been worse! We were damn glad to get off that plane! The thing cruised at like 210 mph! The cool thing was the pilots were friendly and would let you sit in the jump seat in the cockpit and talk about flying. Things are a lot different nowadays....

Make that sure....PIMF

re: #101 galloping granny

At first my sister was just dead-set against either BHO or HRC and was gonna' sit this one out. However, as time went by and she learned more, she went over to the GOP.

Maybe living in Denver has a lot to do with her learning. Denver media tend to hype the hell out of anything that has the remotest connection to Denver. You can imagine the treatment the convention is getting.

re: #105 galloping granny

I wouldn't. That would really muddle the waters and might very well result in an Obama win.

Siphon off votes from McCain.

re: #123 MandyManners

Siphon off votes from McCain.

Exactly. I can easily see a three way split and no clear winner.

re: #116 Panhandler

Ah yes, the Mighty C118. I got to visit a goodly part of the world crewing on those beauties.
Jets go whoosh
Pistons go "per diem, per diem"

Well my hats off to you! Its easy to build up a lot of flight time in one of those things. On the trip back, one of the engines ate a valve and we had to turn around. We were telling the flight crew we would fly with three, but they did the right thing and got us on the ground. The bad engine was dripping gallons of oil. We really did want to get home!

Morning folks...Well, it'll be over 90 here in NJ today. Like Punxatawney Phil, does this mean Algore comes out of his hole and declares the earth is melting?

re: #122 MandyManners

At first my sister was just dead-set against either BHO or HRC and was gonna' sit this one out. However, as time went by and she learned more, she went over to the GOP.

Maybe living in Denver has a lot to do with her learning. Denver media tend to hype the hell out of anything that has the remotest connection to Denver. You can imagine the treatment the convention is getting.

Except the innumerable times United flies every plane it owns, complete with crew and passengers, into Denver airport and then strands them all there for a week or more in the middle of a blizzard. Happens at least once every year, usually several time, and always treated like some freak event.

re: #106 goddessoftheclassroom

My impression is that the media is "creating" Obama. Although there are many things I don't like about McCain, I will support him because he is clearly the better choice for Commander-in-Chief.

I also think that McCain's POW experience taught him patience and timing. I think he's going to wait until September before he turns the simmer to a boil.

I don't know if the media have created BHO so much as it's followed Soros' instructions.

re: #122 MandyManners

I know that I have to vote for McCain, but when I hear him espouse his climate change, cap and trade nonsense I get disgusted.

re: #107 LoFlyer

I remember a 10 hour flight across the US in a C-118, the air conditioning wasn't running well and crossing the rockies we ran into turbulance and guys started ralphing. The rest of us wanted from the smell. We were damn glad to get on the ground a couple hours later...

I read somewhere that sympathetic, er, "being sick," is a innate defense mechanism: we hear someone else being sick, and our bodies think we may have ingested whatever made him or her sick, and so we join the party before the supposed toxins can hurt us.

Great for survival, rather less so for a mom of a sick kid at 2 AM...

re: #111 Ojoe

Yes, I'd like to see her go 3rd party too, and because she deserves more respect than the Democrats have given her.

I'm gonna' go with gg on this--it'd siphon off voters from McCain.

re: #130 goddessoftheclassroom

I read somewhere that sympathetic, er, "being sick," is a innate defense mechanism: we hear someone else being sick, and our bodies think we may have ingested whatever made him or her sick, and so we join the party before the supposed toxins can hurt us.

Great for survival, rather less so for a mom of a sick kid at 2 AM...

Could be, there is nothing like cleaning up the vomit of a loved one to seal the "bonding" expericance!

re: #128 MandyManners

I don't know if the media have created BHO so much as it's followed Soros' instructions.

Excellent--but very scary--point.

re: #114 Dar ul Harb

Wright showed him another way, a Third Way.

I came across the phrase "third way" several times in my research into the occult, transcendental, demonic and esoteric.

re: #130 goddessoftheclassroom

I read somewhere that sympathetic, er, "being sick," is a innate defense mechanism: we hear someone else being sick, and our bodies think we may have ingested whatever made him or her sick, and so we join the party before the supposed toxins can hurt us.

Great for survival, rather less so for a mom of a sick kid at 2 AM...

After a career change, I am now a new RN on an oncology floor; Strong mints help me a lot!

I'm still not sure which matters more to me, McCain winning and relieving my angst, or Mccain winning big time and getting to see Olberman and Matthews having to announce it on MSNBC (if that channel is still on the air that is).

re: #128 MandyManners

I don't know if the media have created BHO so much as it's followed Soros' instructions.

Without a doubt somebody has been creating - quite literally - Barack Hussein Obama and has been doing so for quite some time. Years. I would love to know just who it is that owns him.

Hey you

BBL guys, I have a new computer hutch to build, I am having cable installed this afternoon and will be getting 5 mbs Internet by this evening! The cellular aircard is a marvel, but you can't beat the bandwidth of fiber or cable!

re: #134 MandyManners

I came across the phrase "third way" several times in my research into the occult, transcendental, demonic and esoteric.

As far as I know, its usual meaning refers to those politicians during the Cold War (particularly in Europe) who thought they could steer a course for their nations between communism and capitalism.

re: #131 MandyManners

You are probably right.

I wonder if McCain wins if we'll get to see rage-boy; hadn't seen him lately

re: #135 greenmiler

After a career change, I am now a new RN on an oncology floor; Strong mints help me a lot!

God bless you and all nurses. I can't express my deep admiration for your steel nerves (and stomachs) and compassion.

In an emergency, I can rise to the occasion and cope, surfing on the adrenalin, but as soon as the crisis is past, I dissolve.

re: #119 goddessoftheclassroom

{MandyManners}

Good morning! I hope your day isn't as busy as mine is. One of the (many) hard things about being a single parent is transporting the kids to where they need to be.

Until a person stands in our shoes, he or she can't really understand.

It's gonna' be a rough two weeks. The Kid disappeared last evening while I was finishing up some chores after we got back from dinner. I hollered out the back and out the front. I hopped in the car and tore off down the road. I turned around with an awful feeling, and went back past the house to find him in the neighbor's pool, in the three-foot end, with our Yorkie.

I was beyond livid. I knew I couldn't spank him 'cause it would've been in anger. So, he's grounded from his PSP, his cable and the park for two weeks. (I'm letting him keep his PS2 and PS3 'cause he needs some electronic stuff.)

re: #143 goddessoftheclassroom

God bless you and all nurses. I can't express my deep admiration for your steel nerves (and stomachs) and compassion.

In an emergency, I can rise to the occasion and cope, surfing on the adrenalin, but as soon as the crisis is past, I dissolve.

TY,
I dissolve a lot to on my days off

Morning all. Let us observe a moment of silence for the monk seal, which has now been officially declared extinct. Don't know what the hell else they expected, it's a monk seal, it must be celibate, right... ?

Uh, I smell coffee brewing...

re: #144 MandyManners

{MandyManners}

I'm so glad everything was OK, but I do know how your heart was pounding.

gotta love that quote! I guess that makes LBJ a total failure and the second worse president in US history.

re: #124 galloping granny

Exactly. I can easily see a three way split and no clear winner.

I wonder what would happen if HRC succeeded in getting the nomination in Denver. How would the BHO worshipers vote in November?

Oh! The irony!

It appears as though the "vast right wing conspiracy" that Hillary feared for so many years wasn't what sunk her. It was the "vast left wing conspiracy" all along!

Good day, ALL!™

When Obama is crushed in the election. The MSM will be appalled. They will point out what a racist country we have.

re: #106 goddessoftheclassroom

My impression is that the media is "creating" Obama. Although there are many things I don't like about McCain, I will support him because he is clearly the better choice for Commander-in-Chief.

I also think that McCain's POW experience taught him patience and timing. I think he's going to wait until September before he turns the simmer to a boil.

Goddess, it seems to me that Senator Obama is the 21st century version of a waffle Rorschach...you see whatever you want and ascribe to him whatever qualities/positions/ideals you wish.

How else do we describe the support he gets from disparate groups...(i.e. environmentalists v. union people, students v. older people)?

re: #150 littleoldlady

Oh! The irony!

It appears as though the "vast right wing conspiracy" that Hillary feared for so many years wasn't what sunk her. It was the "vast left wing conspiracy" all along!

Good day, ALL!™

Turns out that the Clintons weren't radical enough.

re: #150 littleoldlady

Oh! The irony!

It appears as though the "vast right wing conspiracy" that Hillary feared for so many years wasn't what sunk her. It was the "vast left wing conspiracy" all along!

Good day, ALL!™

{littleoldlady}

Hillary, for all her faults, would be nobody's puppet.

re: #127 galloping granny

Except the innumerable times United flies every plane it owns, complete with crew and passengers, into Denver airport and then strands them all there for a week or more in the middle of a blizzard. Happens at least once every year, usually several time, and always treated like some freak event.

I can't wait until a tornado wipes out Pena's Folly.

re: #149 MandyManners

I wonder what would happen if HRC succeeded in getting the nomination in Denver. How would the BHO worshipers vote in November?

Clinton wins Democrat nomination in hard floor battle. President declares Denver a disaster area and authorizes federal troops and aid.

re: #146 infidelia

Morning all. Let us observe a moment of silence for the monk seal, which has now been officially declared extinct. Don't know what the hell else they expected, it's a monk seal, it must be celibate, right... ?

Uh, I smell coffee brewing...

I too am saddened by the extinction of the .....hey, look at the time

re: #129 tappin52

I know that I have to vote for McCain, but when I hear him espouse his climate change, cap and trade nonsense I get disgusted.

It pisses me off, too. Junk science sucks.

re: #149 MandyManners

I wonder what would happen if HRC succeeded in getting the nomination in Denver. How would the BHO worshipers vote in November?

I suspect they are the stay at home types. After they riot & burn down the town.

re: #149 MandyManners

I wonder what would happen if HRC succeeded in getting the nomination in Denver. How would the BHO worshipers vote in November?

Well, in protest, the deceased registered voters would just lay this one out, and those doubly registered would only vote once. Military ballots would still not make it in time though....

/

re: #111 Ojoe

Yes, I'd like to see her go 3rd party too, and because she deserves more respect than the Democrats have given her.

Probably a 45% chance that if HRC ran indy, and actually could get the money she needed, that she would be president.

re: #133 goddessoftheclassroom

Excellent--but very scary--point.

I think he's Soros' puppy, pure and simple.

re: #137 galloping granny

Without a doubt somebody has been creating - quite literally - Barack Hussein Obama and has been doing so for quite some time. Years. I would love to know just who it is that owns him.

Soros. I have no doubt.

re: #152 brainwizard73

How else do we describe the support he gets from disparate groups...(i.e. environmentalists v. union people, students v. older people)?

Disparate groups? Sounds like the usual Democratic Party constituency groups to me...

re: #151 BigJohn

When Obama is crushed in the election. The MSM will be appalled. They will point out what a racist country we have.

They already point that out every single time that anyone dares to criticize his high & mightiness Barack Husssein Obama on any grounds whatever. Or anyone associated with him. Anything he has done, said, written or observed. Along with all the things that he has not done. Even pointing out his abysmal "voting" record - and I put that in quotes because his record thus far in Congress is more non-votes than votes - makes one a racist.

re: #140 Dar ul Harb

As far as I know, its usual meaning refers to those politicians during the Cold War (particularly in Europe) who thought they could steer a course for their nations between communism and capitalism.

I've seen it in that context, too.

re: #141 Ojoe

You are probably right.

I often am wrong but, I think that's what would happen here.

re: #147 goddessoftheclassroom

{MandyManners}

I'm so glad everything was OK, but I do know how your heart was pounding.

It pounded in spurts between its stopping.

re: #151 BigJohn

When Obama is crushed in the election. The MSM will be appalled. They will point out what a racist country we have.

They already are...see Real Clear Politics and this story from yesterday: I'm Not Totally Sure We Can - Kurt Andersen, New York Magazine...here is a quote.

8. The evil in men’s hearts. Every time I watch him work the crowds, I cringe a little, dreading the lurching nut and pop-pop. Any assassination is horrific; the murder of Obama could be a national trauma beyond reckoning. Similarly, beyond my own preference, I think an Obama loss in November would be particularly disheartening for the country. It would amount to a national statement concerning our racial divide: Nah, we can’t.

Uh, yeah, he is talking about the assassination of Senator Obama. Notice what he says about Obama losing. See? It has already started.

re: #152 brainwizard73

Goddess, it seems to me that Senator Obama is the 21st century version of a waffle Rorschach...you see whatever you want and ascribe to him whatever qualities/positions/ideals you wish.

How else do we describe the support he gets from disparate groups...(i.e. environmentalists v. union people, students v. older people)?

I may be wrong but, I don't ses the rank-and-file union folks panting for him. I think the top was bought off.

re: #164 Dar ul Harb

True, but groups that often have diametrically opposite interests. That is what I was going for...

re: #156 Panhandler

Clinton wins Democrat nomination in hard floor battle. President declares Denver a disaster area and authorizes federal troops and aid.

Part of me is pining to go visit my sister but, the rest of me is into self-preservation.

re: #170 MandyManners

I may be wrong but, I don't ses the rank-and-file union folks panting for him. I think the top was bought off.

Usually is. And remember, the unions have lost ground in a huge way over the last few years. The AFL-CIO no longer even exists and more people choose to opt out of union membership every year.

re: #172 MandyManners

Part of me is pining to go visit my sister but, the rest of me is into self-preservation.

Better go now then.

re: #169 brainwizard73

Madness, Madness.

No connection to the real; Lucibello churns and churns there.

A Democrat trainwreck, did someone say?

Oddly, my soundtrack for this thread is the metal classic "Crazy Train":

I've listened to preachers
I've listened to fools
I've watched all the dropouts
Who make their own rules
One person conditioned to rule and control
The media sells it and you have the role

Mental wounds still screaming
Driving me insane
I'm going off the rails on a crazy train

(And I don't have any Ozzy albums, BTW.)

Yes, we're going off the rails on a crazy train...

re: #170 MandyManners

I may be wrong but, I don't ses the rank-and-file union folks panting for him. I think the top was bought off.

and they won't appreciate Hussein going after their guns!

re: #170 MandyManners

True there is the leadership vs. rank and file thing here, but he is still pulling a lot of union support.

My point was people read into him what they want. For instance endorsements and support from Jewish Americans (some) and Hamas. Now that can't be coherent...

Finally I'm in!

re: #159 galloping granny

I suspect they are the stay at home types. After they riot & burn down the town.

All those expensive lofts in LoDo....

re: #160 paxnhymn

Well, in protest, the deceased registered voters would just lay this one out, and those doubly registered would only vote once. Military ballots would still not make it in time though....

/

LOL!

re: #175 Ojoe

Madness, Madness.

No connection to the real; Lucibello churns and churns there.

This dumbass also says in the article that elections are like civil-war reinactments...where the North loses...

I guess that makes me a member of the 13th Virginia Volunteers?

re: #179 bowekh

Finally I'm in!

Welcome!

re: #144 MandyManners

It's gonna' be a rough two weeks. The Kid disappeared last evening while I was finishing up some chores after we got back from dinner. I hollered out the back and out the front. I hopped in the car and tore off down the road. I turned around with an awful feeling, and went back past the house to find him in the neighbor's pool, in the three-foot end, with our Yorkie.

I was beyond livid. I knew I couldn't spank him 'cause it would've been in anger. So, he's grounded from his PSP, his cable and the park for two weeks. (I'm letting him keep his PS2 and PS3 'cause he needs some electronic stuff.)

y'know that makes me wanna weep. In this monstrosity of a society we've created, a boy can't even be a boy, and we wonder where all the John Waynes have gone! I can remember leaving after breakfast with my dog in hot pursuit, running all over the neighborhood (fences were rare then) playing all day, us taking turns eating a sandwhich for lunch at whomever's home we happened to be playing at at noon, barely taking time to go to the bathroom, then about dark a parent yelling out the door or sending a sibling to tell us to come eat. What have we become?

re: #169 brainwizard73

Uh, yeah, he is talking about the assassination of Senator Obama. Notice what he says about Obama losing. See? It has already started.

I know. You can't vote against him because you disagree with his Marxism. It has to be because of his race. It's like when my family says I don't like Hillary because she's a strong woman. When I tell them how much I like Maggie Thatcher, or that I would vote for Condi Rice, they look at me like I'm retarded.

re: #173 galloping granny

Usually is. And remember, the unions have lost ground in a huge way over the last few years. The AFL-CIO no longer even exists and more people choose to opt out of union membership every year.

Didn't the rank-and-file members go for Pres. Reagan in a big way?

re: #64 tigerwoman

Thanks for sharing. I read the article and all I could think was WOW!
I will copy/paste link below. This article needs to be posted everywhere.
[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]

re: #174 galloping granny

Better go now then.

Nah. I just like the idea of the excitement of living in a war zone.

Today's exercise in moral vanity:

'I have moral authority'

re: #157 greenmiler

I too am saddened by the extinction of the .....hey, look at the time

Don't worry. They'll find 60 of the bastards at a resort in Cancun sipping fruity drinks and having wild parties near the pool...

...until they realize those aren't monk seals, that's the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition annual meeting...someone get video of The Shrew!

re: #176 Dar ul Harb

A Democrat trainwreck, did someone say?

Oddly, my soundtrack for this thread is the metal classic "Crazy Train":

(And I don't have any Ozzy albums, BTW.)

Yes, we're going off the rails on a crazy train...

This'll get your blood flowing.

re: #178 brainwizard73

True there is the leadership vs. rank and file thing here, but he is still pulling a lot of union support.

My point was people read into him what they want. For instance endorsements and support from Jewish Americans (some) and Hamas. Now that can't be coherent...

The plasticity of it all....

re: #179 bowekh

Welcome!

re: #185 BigJohn

I know. You can't vote against him because you disagree with his Marxism. It has to be because of his race. It's like when my family says I don't like Hillary because she's a strong woman. When I tell them how much I like Maggie Thatcher, or that I would vote for Condi Rice, they look at me like I'm retarded.

Clearly all mysoginistic MSNBC viewers.

Why can't people see that whether he wins or loses, it is still a "barrier" broken. If he fails it is becuase of him...not becuase of what he is. That would be a great result...and good advice for next time.

re: #178 brainwizard73

True there is the leadership vs. rank and file thing here, but he is still pulling a lot of union support.

My point was people read into him what they want. For instance endorsements and support from Jewish Americans (some) and Hamas. Now that can't be coherent...

"I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction." BHO

re: #194 brainwizard73

Clearly all mysoginistic sexist MSNBC viewers.

Why can't people see that whether he wins or loses, it is still a "barrier" broken. If he fails it is becuase of him...not becuase of what he is. That would be a great result...and good advice for next time.

Alright, I can't spell...

Well lizards, looks like the fog is starting to burn off.

It's officially summer, the dog and I are keen to get outside and enjoy the day, so I'll bid you all a good morning.

re: #184 paxnhymn

y'know that makes me wanna weep. In this monstrosity of a society we've created, a boy can't even be a boy, and we wonder where all the John Waynes have gone! I can remember leaving after breakfast with my dog in hot pursuit, running all over the neighborhood (fences were rare then) playing all day, us taking turns eating a sandwhich for lunch at whomever's home we happened to be playing at at noon, barely taking time to go to the bathroom, then about dark a parent yelling out the door or sending a sibling to tell us to come eat. What have we become?

We live in the country so there's not much of a neighborhood, just houses dotted here and there along a road where the vehicles go very fast. Plus, he didn't tell me that he was leaving the large (eight-acre), heavily wooded yard. Furthermore, he was in the pool without the owner's permission or knowledge--it's set back pretty far from the main house.

re: #185 BigJohn

I know. You can't vote against him because you disagree with his Marxism. It has to be because of his race. It's like when my family says I don't like Hillary because she's a strong woman. When I tell them how much I like Maggie Thatcher, or that I would vote for Condi Rice, they look at me like I'm retarded.

Why not look back at them as if they have three heads and 18 eyes?

re: #195 akak

"I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction." BHO

How about "I will stand with the Americans when planes get flown into buildings and rouge nations sponsor and support terrorists"?

How about meeting with Americans without precondition?

Good morning all! Finally had a chance to register. Go easy on me. I'll bring you what ever you need except intelligent conversation.

re: #198 MandyManners

We live in the country so there's not much of a neighborhood, just houses dotted here and there along a road where the vehicles go very fast. Plus, he didn't tell me that he was leaving the large (eight-acre), heavily wooded yard. Furthermore, he was in the pool without the owner's permission or knowledge--it's set back pretty far from the main house.

On that one grounds alone I would have forbidden him to swim for the entire summer. This isn't a boys will be boys prank, he could have died.

re: #201 Goldar

Good morning all! Finally had a chance to register. Go easy on me. I'll bring you what ever you need except intelligent conversation.

I'll have a mimosa, please.

Good morning all, and good morning newbies!

Open thread - can I mention here that whoever thought up the idea of 100-calorie packs of junk food is my hero? Outta win an award . . .

re: #201 Goldar

Good morning all! Finally had a chance to register. Go easy on me. I'll bring you what ever you need except intelligent conversation.

Welcome!

Mark Steyn had me laughing out loud this morning with this column.
Obama, Political Viagra Perhaps Comedy as a form of entertainment is in such a lull these days because the best comedic minds have moved to covering politics?

The short version of the Democratic-party primary campaign is that the media fell in love with Barack Obama but the Democratic electorate declined to. “I felt this thrill going up my leg,” said MSNBC’s Chris Matthews after one of the senator’s speeches. “I mean, I don’t have that too often.” Au contraire, Chris and the rest of the gang seem to be getting the old tingle up the thigh hairs on a nightly basis. If Obama is political Viagra, the media are at that stage in the ad where the announcer warns that, if leg tingles persist for over six months, see your doctor.

re: #201 Goldar

Good morning all! Finally had a chance to register. Go easy on me. I'll bring you what ever you need except intelligent conversation.

"Bring me the head of Al Franken"

Figuratively...please...I don't have room on the trophy wall for the actual thing.

re: #204 reine.de.tout

Good morning all, and good morning newbies!

Open thread - can I mention here that whoever thought up the idea of 100-calorie packs of junk food is my hero? Outta win an award . . .

Heck yeah, I take a half dozen of those packs in my lunch every day!

re: #199 MandyManners

My democrat family knows that I'm not the least bit intimidated. I give them the condescending laugh.

Off I run, dear Lizards. I hope to see y'all later.

Estate sales this morning... gotta go shopping in dead people's houses.

re: #208 Mich-again

Heck yeah, I take a half dozen of those packs in my lunch every day!

And you are paying for it too. I just started losing weight and dieting and noted that when compare the 100 cal packs to the actual thing (cookies, for example) you are paying a lot for the priviliege of having someone bag them up for you...

Next time you are in the store, compare the prices...Now clearly they are more mobile and handy that way, but wow...are they expensive.

re: #201 Goldar

Welcome Goldar. I raise a glass of coffee in your honor.

As for your Avatar, choose wisely.

re: #208 Mich-again

Heck yeah, I take a half dozen of those packs in my lunch every day!

Several of those is what I had for dinner last night. Completely unhealthy. Completely satisfying.

re: #203 goddessoftheclassroom

What kind of omelette would you like with that?

re: #202 galloping granny

On that one grounds alone I would have forbidden him to swim for the entire summer. This isn't a boys will be boys prank, he could have died.

I cannot forbid him to swim 'cause we belong to the country club and it is part of the fabric of our summer lives. Also, he is still learning how to swim and it is vital that he continue to learn.

When I went in to check on him last night, he woke up and apologized for it. When he got up a little while ago, he apologized again. I appreciate that but, it's not gonna' lessen his consequences.

re: #182 brainwizard73

Obviously the writer has never been to one of these:

Calif. Historical Artillery Society - (reenactors)

It depends which battle they are replaying, who wins.

re: #204 reine.de.tout

Good morning all, and good morning newbies!

Open thread - can I mention here that whoever thought up the idea of 100-calorie packs of junk food is my hero? Outta win an award . . .

That's the way I think about sour-cream-and-onion chips.

One piece of advice to everyone for this day.

DO NOT MESS WITH THE ZOHAN!

No, really...don't mess with the Zohan. Was truly an awful movie. I walked out with a half hour left. I like Sandler movies in general. But holy cow, this was...was...just awful!

re: #211 infidelia

Estate sales this morning... gotta go shopping in dead people's houses.

That seems kind of creepy. But good luck.

re: #190 brainwizard73

How long will it be before we see the president of Pis*_Green holding a press conference and doing the public man-cry thing for the monk seal?

re: #202 galloping granny

On that one grounds alone I would have forbidden him to swim for the entire summer. This isn't a boys will be boys prank, he could have died.

You're correct, the consequences of swimming alone in an isolated place can be horrific. But I'm not sure I would forbid the summer's physical activity. I think Mandy has the right idea.

re: #207 brainwizard73

"Bring me the head of Al Franken"

Figuratively...please...I don't have room on the trophy wall for the actual thing.

We can put it over my mantle, right next to my X's testicles.

re: #201 Goldar

Good morning all! Finally had a chance to register. Go easy on me. I'll bring you what ever you need except intelligent conversation.

I need people like you. Welcome!

re: #209 BigJohn

My democrat family knows that I'm not the least bit intimidated. I give them the condescending laugh.

I bet they wonder how you turned out that way.

re: #217 Ojoe

Obviously the writer has never been to one of these:

Calif. Historical Artillery Society - (reenactors)

It depends which battle they are replaying, who wins.

Yeah, I don't know how to break it to him, but the North didn't win a lot of battles. The breathless desperation with which the article is written makes you want to either vomit or nominate Obama for God of the Universe.

You might suspect which reaction it produces with me.

re: #207 brainwizard73

Figuratively... I would love to!

re: #200 brainwizard73

How about "I will stand with the Americans when planes get flown into buildings and rouge nations sponsor and support terrorists"?

How about meeting with Americans without precondition?

Messiah don't play that way!

"There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white." BHO

re: #222 reine.de.tout

You're correct, the consequences of swimming alone in an isolated place can be horrific. But I'm not sure I would forbid the summer's physical activity. I think Mandy has the right idea.

Baseball season's ending soon, and there are no other outside, group activities planned 'cause it's too stinking hot.

re: #216 MandyManners

I cannot forbid him to swim 'cause we belong to the country club and it is part of the fabric of our summer lives. Also, he is still learning how to swim and it is vital that he continue to learn.

When I went in to check on him last night, he woke up and apologized for it. When he got up a little while ago, he apologized again. I appreciate that but, it's not gonna' lessen his consequences.

I'm just an old hard ass Mandy. Other than swimming lessons, watching everyone else swim for quite some time would be the new fabric of my child's life had they pulled that. I am a pretty firm believer that when it comes to life & death issues there are no do overs, no excuses and you will darned well never make the same mistake again.

Here's what I'd like to see over mecca........

[Link: www.darkroastedblend.com...]

re: #223 MandyManners

We can put it over my mantle, right next to my X's testicles.

Easy now. [brainwizard adjusts his sitting position]

I don't think you want to stare at that face for 20 years. You'll end up warped. Screwed up. Without grounding in reality or sanity.

You'd be Jimmy Carter.

RE: #231 Scroll down, you'll see it...

re: #222 reine.de.tout

You're correct, the consequences of swimming alone in an isolated place can be horrific. But I'm not sure I would forbid the summer's physical activity. I think Mandy has the right idea.

Punishment has to fit the crime though reine. And with life & death stuff, it has to be something SO big that it will never, EVER be forgotten. Like sitting on the sidelines watching everyone else swim.

re: #184 paxnhymnFrom the time I was about 10 my mom never really knew where I was from about 9:00 am till the streetlights came on. Could have been down the block at a neighbors or 5 miles away at a big park near the Detroit River or playing ball in any of the nearby schoolyards.

And you forgot the part about getting drinks from garden hoses. mmm. Something about the taste of water from a garden hose.. If a parent told a kid to get a drink from the garden hose nowadays some nosy neighbor would probably tell them they were poisoning the kid.

re: #231 Whiterasta

Godzilla? Little kitty cat? High speed bullet train? Huh.

re: #226 brainwizard73

Ipecac.

re: #225 MandyManners

Yeah, I don't get it. When Texas started voting conservative Republican instead of conservative democrat, everyone in the family kept on voting democrat.

re: #235 Mich-again

From the time I was about 10 my mom never really knew where I was from about 9:00 am till the streetlights came on. Could have been down the block at a neighbors or 5 miles away at a big park near the Detroit River or playing ball in any of the nearby schoolyards.

And you forgot the part about getting drinks from garden hoses. mmm. Something about the taste of water from a garden hose.. If a parent told a kid to get a drink from the garden hose nowadays some nosy neighbor would probably tell them they were poisoning the kid.

Isn't that the truth!

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re: #230 galloping granny

Granny, there are at least a thousand ways for kids to get hurt doing something that seemed safe and if you think you can shield them from injury by carefully choosing their activities for them thats just nuts. Better get rid of the bicycle, never play sports, never swim in a pool or lake and just stay indoors all day.

re: #235 Mich-again

The thirstier you were, the better the garden hose water tasted. Haven't done it in years. Would probably hate it now (unless I was really thirsty).

re: #230 galloping granny

I'm just an old hard ass Mandy. Other than swimming lessons, watching everyone else swim for quite some time would be the new fabric of my child's life had they pulled that. I am a pretty firm believer that when it comes to life & death issues there are no do overs, no excuses and you will darned well never make the same mistake again.

I see it as punishment that would prevent him from learning a valuable life skill. If it were pure enjoyment, that'd be different. As it is, no PSP, cable or park for two is gonna' be utter torture. I might add something else but, I've yet to figure out what.

re: #232 brainwizard73

Easy now. [brainwizard adjusts his sitting position]

I don't think you want to stare at that face for 20 years. You'll end up warped. Screwed up. Without grounding in reality or sanity.

You'd be Jimmy Carter.

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re: #236 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Scroll down to the double mushroom cloud

re: #238 BigJohn

Yeah, I don't get it. When Texas started voting conservative Republican instead of conservative democrat, everyone in the family kept on voting democrat.

A sense of martrydom, perhaps?

We used to hop fences and dive in a neighbors pool if we knew they weren't home. Duh. Didn't everybody?

re: #234 galloping granny

I understand your point completely, and agree that the severity of the punishment should fit the severity of the crime. But in this case - with so many kids overweight and unhealthy from lack of excercise because they're sitting in front of a TV or computer or video game console all day - I think denying those things but allowing supervised swimming this summer is the way to go in this case.

re: #247 Mich-again

We did that too. Except we were nekkid!

re: #245 Whiterasta

I like the kitty cat.

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re: #142 greenmiler

I wonder if McCain wins if we'll get to see rage-boy; hadn't seen him lately

"green" -

Maybe he got a REAL JOB.

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re: #241 Mich-again

Granny, there are at least a thousand ways for kids to get hurt doing something that seemed safe and if you think you can shield them from injury by carefully choosing their activities for them thats just nuts. Better get rid of the bicycle, never play sports, never swim in a pool or lake and just stay indoors all day.

I don't think that at all and I do not in general choose children's activities. Trespassing on the neighbor's property and swimming in the neighbor's pool when you do not yet know how to swim well without the knowledge of either your parent or the neighbor in question is not the usual "activity." It is in fact a crime that some neighbors would prosecute and so irresponsible as to have held a real danger of severe accident or even death. (Mandy's son is only 7.) Right up there with taking the car for a joy ride.

re: #248 reine.de.tout

Agreed. ANy punishment that takes a kid away from physical activity and leaves them sitting at home instead is not in the best interests of the kid. Discipline for a child that young is more about teaching, not so much punishment. And any punishment that extends more than a week past the offense is counterproductive.

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re: #254 Mich-again

Agreed. ANy punishment that takes a kid away from physical activity and leaves them sitting at home instead is not in the best interests of the kid. Discipline for a child that young is more about teaching, not so much punishment. And any punishment that extends more than a week past the offense is counterproductive.

Who ever said leave the kid sit at home? Make the kid watch everyone else swim, just like when they misbehave in a restaurant they get to sit in the car while everyone else eats. Taking away half of the video game systems just isn't quite the same.

re: #249 Whiterasta

Hopping over a cyclone fence nekkid? Now thats not safe at all!

re: #259 Mich-again

Some people have the nerves of marines.

I love the LGF Spy. There's someone over at the "newspaper going under" thread (ronpaulblimpie) who is dissing Mormons in a big way. Luckily, there's another lizard over there (haakandahl) countering it.

re: #223 MandyManners

We can put it over my mantle, right next to my X's testicles.

LOL! Good one... um, you are joking right?

re: #258 galloping granny

Make the kid watch everyone else swim,

The problem with that is every time someone sees him sitting there they will say "Why aren't you swimming with everyone else?" and then mom will retell the story over and over about what a dumb thing he did. And when a kid hears a million times how dumb he was he will start to believe it. I think not letting a kid swim all summer because of that is a very bad idea for a punishment.