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Saturday Early Morning Open

Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 2:59:59 am PDT

A President’s hardest task is not to do what is right, but to know what is right.

Lyndon Baines Johnson

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1 Intrepid  6/07/08 3:01:49 am reply quote 3

Well, what the hell difference does it make if he knows what is right, if he doesn't do what is right?

2 Neo Con since 9-11  6/07/08 3:03:46 am reply quote 4

Weird anti-Semitic rant of the day

    Hugo Chavez already has paranoia, stealing food from the starving, plundering his country's economy, and using terrorism to destabilize a neighbor on his dictatorial resume. However, no mad tyrant's career can be considered complete without a bizarre  anti-Semitic screed.


In its May 15, 2008 edition, Moscow News published an interview in
which Ambassador Navarro Rojas said that among those involved in a
failed coup d’etat of April 11, 2002, aimed at overthrowing Hugo
Chávez, there were "many Mossad snipers, who were Venezuelan citizens
but Jews."

    Protocols of the Elders of Caracas?

Michael R

3 Fenway_Nation  6/07/08 3:04:08 am reply quote 0

Ah....an open thread where I can put up my legs...

4 Neo Con since 9-11  6/07/08 3:07:20 am reply quote 1

Yay I managed to stay conscious till the morning thread

5 Fenway_Nation  6/07/08 3:10:00 am reply quote 0

I'm not sure Mikey 'Are You Gonna Eat That' Moore covered this procedure on the Island Prison Socialist paradise known as Cuba.

Then again, if he underwent the procedure himself, he'd show up as Mikey Moore and leave as Rosie O'Donnel.

6 vbspurs  6/07/08 3:11:59 am reply quote 1

re: #4 Neo Con since 9-11

Yay I managed to stay conscious till the morning thread

And I finally managed to register on LGF by staying up to an unObamaly hour. *waves to all Lizards*

I come bearing waffles.

7 coquimbojoe  6/07/08 3:13:08 am reply quote 0

re: #5 Fenway_Nation

I'm not sure Mikey 'Are You Gonna Eat That' Moore covered this procedure on the Island Prison Socialist paradise known as Cuba.

Then again, if he underwent the procedure himself, he'd show up as Mikey Moore and leave as Rosie O'Donnel.

Our CPA looks exactly like him.. Fortunately he has a sense of humor - and is conservative.

Slow morning, Goodnight folks.....

8 littleoldlady  6/07/08 3:13:15 am reply quote 1

re: #6 vbspurs

Howdy!

Stick the waffles on the buffet -------------->

Thank you! :-)

Registration was open?

9 Intrepid  6/07/08 3:13:48 am reply quote 0

My eyelids have commenced to pulling downwards in a way I cannot defend against.

G'night ya'll! Thanks, littleoldlady, for the fruitcup! You keep us healthy here!

10 Fenway_Nation  6/07/08 3:13:50 am reply quote 1

Fruity waffles?

11 galloping granny  6/07/08 3:15:16 am reply quote 2

re: #6 vbspurs

And I finally managed to register on LGF by staying up to an unObamaly hour. *waves to all Lizards*

I come bearing waffles.

Welcome then. But just let us alone until we finish them.

12 Neo Con since 9-11  6/07/08 3:15:49 am reply quote 0

Holy raccoon feathers batman! Do I see an open registration this early?

13 vbspurs  6/07/08 3:16:23 am reply quote 0

Littleoldlady: Still is! Thanks for the welcome. ;)

Fenway_Nation: Blueberry waffles. IHOP quality. Mmm.

14 littleoldlady  6/07/08 3:17:21 am reply quote 0

joe! :-)

'Night, Intrepid! :-)

Fenway - blueberry waffles for ALL!

Hiya granny! :-)

15 littleoldlady  6/07/08 3:18:12 am reply quote 1

Charles left registration open all night?!

ruh roh

16 littleoldlady  6/07/08 3:18:53 am reply quote 0

re: #13 vbspurs

Blueberry waffles! YEAH!

;-)

17 Intrepid  6/07/08 3:19:40 am reply quote 1

Wait - holy crap! Registration is open now? This late at night?

Welcome vbspurs - good to see ya and welcome aboard!

Sorta freaky that this is the case....

18 galloping granny  6/07/08 3:19:43 am reply quote 0

re: #12 Neo Con since 9-11

Holy raccoon feathers batman! Do I see an open registration this early?

Dear heavens you do! I don't think I've ever seen such a thing.

BTW, I read somewhere a couple of days ago that studies show that those who are strict observers of the islamic prayer schedule manage just 27 productive minutes per day. All of the rest is taken up going to , coming from, preparing for or praying. No wonder their countries are all third world holes.

19 galloping granny  6/07/08 3:20:09 am reply quote 0

re: #14 littleoldlady

joe! :-)

'Night, Intrepid! :-)

Fenway - blueberry waffles for ALL!

Hiya granny! :-)

Morning littleoldlady. How's things?

20 Neo Con since 9-11  6/07/08 3:20:26 am reply quote 0

re: #15 littleoldlady

No I think it just opened and I think vbspurs is our first hatching aboard

21 galloping granny  6/07/08 3:20:41 am reply quote 0

re: #15 littleoldlady

Charles left registration open all night?!

ruh roh

Musta had some kind of emergency that took him away from things.

22 theres_a_party_in_my_jinns_and_youre_invited  6/07/08 3:21:11 am reply quote 1

Open registration! My sock puppet is feeling particularly frisky this morning!

23 Neo Con since 9-11  6/07/08 3:23:31 am reply quote 0

Granny and Little old lady. Please help me drag the newbie onto the delousing deck.

24 vbspurs  6/07/08 3:25:40 am reply quote 0

Thanks for the welcome, Intrepid, et. al. I stand at the ready for the delousing treatment after I catch a couple of winks. "Night"!

25 galloping granny  6/07/08 3:25:50 am reply quote 1

re: #23 Neo Con since 9-11

Granny and Little old lady. Please help me drag the newbie onto the delousing deck.

I don't know Neo. Newbie is funny and brought waffles. Might be a keeper.

26 littleoldlady  6/07/08 3:26:16 am reply quote 0

re: #18 galloping granny

Well that explains A LOT, doesn't it?

Registration was open all night at least once that I can remember. But if it just opened up Charles must have it on some kind of auto-start. Like this thread. Maybe WITH this thread...?

27 littleoldlady  6/07/08 3:27:00 am reply quote 1

Blueberry waffles.

/okay in my book! :-)

28 Ojoe  6/07/08 3:28:05 am reply quote 0

I hope someone registers as Sasquatch.

29 Neo Con since 9-11  6/07/08 3:29:17 am reply quote 3

re: #18 galloping granny

Dear heavens you do! I don't think I've ever seen such a thing.

BTW, I read somewhere a couple of days ago that studies show that those who are strict observers of the islamic prayer schedule manage just 27 productive minutes per day. All of the rest is taken up going to , coming from, preparing for or praying. No wonder their countries are all third world holes.

Normally I would make fun of those who only manage 27 productive minutes a day. Then I got registered here and now I only get 20 minutes a day.

30 theres_a_party_in_my_jinns_and_youre_invited  6/07/08 3:29:41 am reply quote 0

re: #28 Ojoe

I heard Sasquatch was firmly in the Obama camp.

Isn't Sasquatch a super-delegate?

31 littleoldlady  6/07/08 3:30:19 am reply quote 1

re: #29 Neo Con since 9-11

Had to plus you for that. :-/

/oy. me2

32 Cannadian Club Akbar  6/07/08 3:31:49 am reply quote 0

I had to wait 2 years to become a lizard. This open registration hacks me off. But welcome to all new members. Don't make us put a foot in you ass!

33 galloping granny  6/07/08 3:31:59 am reply quote 0

re: #26 littleoldlady

Well that explains A LOT, doesn't it?

Registration was open all night at least once that I can remember. But if it just opened up Charles must have it on some kind of auto-start. Like this thread. Maybe WITH this thread...?

Auto start would solve a whole lot of problems for Charles and free him up in a big way. Nothing worse about owning a busy website than being chained to the machine playing boss.

34 Ojoe  6/07/08 3:32:50 am reply quote 0

re: #30 theres_a_party_in_my_jinns_and_youre_invited

Actually I'm Sasquatch, unless someone else registers here; then I'll let them be Sasquatch.

Sasquatch cannot be fooled, so Sasquatch obviously is not a Democratic superdelegate.

35 theres_a_party_in_my_jinns_and_youre_invited  6/07/08 3:35:48 am reply quote 0

re: #34 Ojoe

Actually I'm Sasquatch, unless someone else registers here; then I'll let them be Sasquatch.

Sasquatch cannot be fooled, so Sasquatch obviously is not a Democratic superdelegate.

I assumed Sasquatch's only source of information was the MSM and that he (or she) wanted to be saved from the sinister, greedy, war-mongering, totalitarian, right-wing, Dominionist christians who would let Sasquatch (or Sasquatch's partner) get an abortion....

36 theres_a_party_in_my_jinns_and_youre_invited  6/07/08 3:38:09 am reply quote 0
would

Er...Wouldn't

37 Ojoe  6/07/08 3:38:34 am reply quote 0

Sasquatch live in redwood forest. Get information directly from Great Spirit.

38 Bogeyfre  6/07/08 3:44:04 am reply quote 0

Finally, proud new Lizard here.......

39 Ojoe  6/07/08 3:47:45 am reply quote 0

re: #38 Bogeyfre

Welcome to the collective Winston Churchill.

40 Cannadian Club Akbar  6/07/08 3:49:08 am reply quote 0

re: #38 Bogeyfre

see #32

41 littleoldlady  6/07/08 3:50:27 am reply quote 0

Bogeyfre!

Howdy! :-) Have some fruitcup!

42 Cannadian Club Akbar  6/07/08 3:52:46 am reply quote 0

re: #38 Bogeyfre

Welcome, new lizard.

43 Bogeyfre  6/07/08 3:53:38 am reply quote 0

Updated Icon.

Go Cards, Cubs will fall eventually.....

44 MandyManners  6/07/08 3:56:47 am reply quote 0

re: #43 Bogeyfre

Oooooooooohhh...momma winger's gonna' whack you!

Welcome!

45 Cannadian Club Akbar  6/07/08 3:56:51 am reply quote 0

re: #43 Bogeyfre

Love the Cards and the Cubs, GO RAYS, look out.

46 Ojoe  6/07/08 3:57:41 am reply quote 0

re: #43 Bogeyfre

This is a centrist blog, it only appears rightist in comparison with the 5th column media.

47 Dar ul Harb  6/07/08 3:58:35 am reply quote 0

Hmm, an automatic registration window generator?

48 Dar ul Harb  6/07/08 4:01:21 am reply quote 1

re: #29 Neo Con since 9-11

Normally I would make fun of those who only manage 27 productive minutes a day. Then I got registered here and now I only get 20 minutes a day.

LOL!

Of course, the fewer minutes they have to actually implement their nefarious schemes, the better, IMHO.

49 Dar ul Harb  6/07/08 4:03:56 am reply quote 0

Where is everybody?


Lemme check the Spy...

50 Ojoe  6/07/08 4:04:42 am reply quote 0

re: #49 Dar ul Harb

Most lizards sleepeth now.

51 tappin52  6/07/08 4:04:47 am reply quote 0

re: #10 Fenway_Nation

Fruity waffles?

I have the whipped cream so we can make big, fat, sloppy Belgian waffles.

52 littleoldlady  6/07/08 4:05:15 am reply quote 0

Ohhhhh! So THAT'S what the Spy is for!

/always a day late & a dollar short...

Hiya Dar! :-)

53 littleoldlady  6/07/08 4:05:58 am reply quote 0

I'm (nonvirtually) hungry.

/wonder why? ;-)

54 galloping granny  6/07/08 4:06:42 am reply quote 0

re: #52 littleoldlady

Ohhhhh! So THAT'S what the Spy is for!

/always a day late & a dollar short...

Hiya Dar! :-)

Where be the Spy?

55 Hucbald  6/07/08 4:07:28 am reply quote 0

Johnson sucked at that.

56 MandyManners  6/07/08 4:07:41 am reply quote 0

re: #49 Dar ul Harb

I still cannot break the habit of getting up before the sun even though The Kid's been out of school for two weeks.

57 littleoldlady  6/07/08 4:08:31 am reply quote 0

re: #54 galloping granny

Top left near the registration stuff.

58 galloping granny  6/07/08 4:09:08 am reply quote 0

re: #56 MandyManners

I still cannot break the habit of getting up before the sun even though The Kid's been out of school for two weeks.

The kiddo here is always out of school and I'm always up before the sun. She, however, is beginning to develop sleeping in as a fine art.

59 MandyManners  6/07/08 4:09:34 am reply quote 0

re: #54 galloping granny

Where be the Spy?

He be right here.

60 Ojoe  6/07/08 4:10:53 am reply quote 0

re: #56 MandyManners

Here is Saint Patrick's morning prayer for you:

Saint Patrick’s Breastplate:

I arise today
Through a mighty strength, the invocation of the Trinity,
Through the belief in the threeness,
Through confession of the oneness
Of the Creator of Creation.

I arise today
Through the strength of Christ's birth with his baptism,
Through the strength of his crucifixion with his burial,
Through the strength of his resurrection with his ascension,
Through the strength of his descent for the judgment of Doom.

I arise today
Through the strength of the love of Cherubim,
In obedience of angels,
In the service of archangels,
In hope of resurrection to meet with reward,
In prayers of patriarchs,
In predictions of prophets,
In preaching of apostles,
In faith of confessors,
In innocence of holy virgins,
In deeds of righteous men.

I arise today
Through the strength of heaven:
Light of sun,
Radiance of moon,
Splendor of fire,
Speed of lightning,
Swiftness of wind,
Depth of sea,
Stability of earth,
Firmness of rock.

I arise today
Through God's strength to pilot me:
God's might to uphold me,
God's wisdom to guide me,
God's eye to look before me,
God's ear to hear me,
God's word to speak for me,
God's hand to guard me,
God's way to lie before me,
God's shield to protect me,
God's host to save me
From snares of devils,
From temptations of vices,
From everyone who shall wish me ill,
Afar and anear,
Alone and in multitude.

I summon today all these powers between me and those evils,
Against every cruel merciless power that may oppose my body and soul,
Against incantations of false prophets,
Against black laws of pagandom
Against false laws of heretics,
Against craft of idolatry,
Against spells of witches and smiths and wizards,
Against every knowledge that corrupts man's body and soul.
Christ to shield me today
Against poison, against burning,
Against drowning, against wounding,
So that there may come to me abundance of reward.

Christ with me, Christ before me, Christ behind me,
Christ in me, Christ beneath me, Christ above me,
Christ on my right, Christ on my left,
Christ when I lie down, Christ when I sit down, Christ when I arise,
Christ in the heart of every man who thinks of me,
Christ in the mouth of everyone who speaks of me,
Christ in every eye that sees me,
Christ in every ear that hears me.

I arise today
Through a mighty strength, the invocation of the Trinity,
Through belief in the threeness,
Through confession of the oneness,
Of the Creator of Creation.


61 MandyManners  6/07/08 4:12:11 am reply quote 0

re: #58 galloping granny

The kiddo here is always out of school and I'm always up before the sun. She, however, is beginning to develop sleeping in as a fine art.

I don't think I appreciated sleep before I had The Kid.

62 tappin52  6/07/08 4:12:32 am reply quote 0

Dos anyone here have enough confidence in the American electorate to believe that we can sqash Obama like the bug he is?

63 littleoldlady  6/07/08 4:14:00 am reply quote 0

re: #62 tappin52

I'm starting to have nightmares, since you ask. :-(

64 tigerwoman  6/07/08 4:14:01 am reply quote 2

wow. I am travelling and typing this on my I-phone so I don't know how to link to the fantastic article I just read over at AmericanThinker. Maybe some of you have read it? Its about Obama and his black liberation theology dated June 5. I HIGHLY recommend it. It spells out all to clearly the utter shit that Obama believes. He expressed his beliefs to anyone who will listen, but in such a subtle and nuanced way that only those who know the background info will get what he is really saying.

65 MandyManners  6/07/08 4:14:30 am reply quote 0

re: #60 Ojoe

Why, thank you, Ojoe! That's very sweet.

66 tappin52  6/07/08 4:14:30 am reply quote 0

Did I kill the thread?.................sorry

67 Ojoe  6/07/08 4:14:34 am reply quote 0

re: #62 tappin52

Yes. Even Democrats were not voting for him as much lately in the primaries.

68 MandyManners  6/07/08 4:15:09 am reply quote 0

re: #62 tappin52

Dos anyone here have enough confidence in the American electorate to believe that we can sqash Obama like the bug he is?

I vacillate.

69 Ojoe  6/07/08 4:15:32 am reply quote 0

re: #65 MandyManners

I try and read it most mornings.

But it is still night here.

Later when the birds start tweeting I'll go outside and read it.

70 MandyManners  6/07/08 4:17:41 am reply quote 2

re: #64 tigerwoman

This one?

Richard N. Weltz

Once again, Barack Obama has demonstrated serious gaps in actual knowledge of the subjects on which he so charmingly pontificates.


The Democratic candidate, who prior to the past years or so, seems never to have had a problem with friends who didn't like Israel, stood up before a meeting of the America-Israel Public Action Committee (AIPAC) yesterday in Washington, DC, and spoke every pro-Israel platitude he judged that the crowd wanted to hear.

SNIP

71 galloping granny  6/07/08 4:17:58 am reply quote 0

re: #61 MandyManners

I don't think I appreciated sleep before I had The Kid.

I understand that. I appreciate sleep again, but unfortunately I am now much too old to lie down for more than 5 or 6 hours at a shot at the very best. Habit of a lifetime I guess.

72 LoFlyer  6/07/08 4:19:22 am reply quote 2

What I have found amazing in this election, is the total abandoment of the Clinton's by the MSM. A year ago, Hillary could no wrong, as far as the media was concerned. Six months ago, the journalists decided to change candidates and now Hillary can do no right. With friends like this, who needs enemies!

73 galloping granny  6/07/08 4:21:32 am reply quote 0

re: #62 tappin52

Dos anyone here have enough confidence in the American electorate to believe that we can sqash Obama like the bug he is?

The only thing that gives me some confidence is this. For the first time in living memory every single member of my family (including those who married in), without any discussion, has independently concluded that they will not vote for Obama under any circumstances. Or throw their vote out the window on a third party candidate. Or stay home.

/This never, never happens in my family.

74 Dar ul Harb  6/07/08 4:21:42 am reply quote 0

re: #70 MandyManners

This one?

Probably this one.

75 galloping granny  6/07/08 4:22:29 am reply quote 3

re: #72 LoFlyer

What I have found amazing in this election, is the total abandoment of the Clinton's by the MSM. A year ago, Hillary could no wrong, as far as the media was concerned. Six months ago, the journalists decided to change candidates and now Hillary can do no right. With friends like this, who needs enemies!

Yeah, that has really made me wonder how the heck much the media moguls have been paid and who the heck is pulling the strings. Talk about the princess thrown to the wolves!

76 tappin52  6/07/08 4:23:22 am reply quote 3

re: #72 LoFlyer

I think that one of the best advantages of the internet and blogs is that the abused power of the MSM has been laid bare.

77 Dar ul Harb  6/07/08 4:23:40 am reply quote 1

(That was Part 2.)

Obama's Black Liberation Theology and Karl Marx
Pt. 1, Pt. 2

78 MandyManners  6/07/08 4:23:58 am reply quote 0

re: #71 galloping granny

I just wish I could still take the power naps I took while I was pregnant. Very refreshing.

79 LoFlyer  6/07/08 4:24:52 am reply quote 0

re: #75 galloping granny

My family will probably vote Obama, I am sure the topic will come up during Fathers day, and my nephew and I will be hounded by the rest. I will give 'em some good arguments though!

80 MandyManners  6/07/08 4:25:03 am reply quote 0

re: #73 galloping granny

The only thing that gives me some confidence is this. For the first time in living memory every single member of my family (including those who married in), without any discussion, has independently concluded that they will not vote for Obama under any circumstances. Or throw their vote out the window on a third party candidate. Or stay home.

/This never, never happens in my family.

My sister, the homosexual moonbat, and my mother, the Yellow Dog Democrat, are both voting for McCain.

81 MandyManners  6/07/08 4:25:52 am reply quote 0

re: #74 Dar ul Harb

Probably

82 Dr. Shalit  6/07/08 4:26:10 am reply quote 0

Lyndon Johnson, for better or worse, was able to push through the great majority of modern Civil Rights legislation. Think he caught a clue here and there to say the least.

-S-

83 MandyManners  6/07/08 4:26:48 am reply quote 0

re: #75 galloping granny

Yeah, that has really made me wonder how the heck much the media moguls have been paid and who the heck is pulling the strings. Talk about the princess thrown to the wolves!

Murdoch is buds with Soros.

84 irish rose  6/07/08 4:26:51 am reply quote 2

Good morning lizards, 64 degress and foggy here along the Lake Michigan shoreline... I'm listening to the wail of the foghorn as I enjoy my first cup of coffee. If the fog burns off before 10, I'll probably take the dog down to the lighthouse for a walk.

We've had a lot of rain here over the last couple of days and everything feels damp. It's a bad time for my basement dehumidifier to be pooping out, so first order of business this morning (after the DDT) is to open it up and try to fix it. I know nothing about small appliance repair, but it never hurts to open it up and take a peek in case its' something obvious.

Had a call from my Marine last night... it was very good to hear his voice. He's going to be home for a visit on the 22nd, and will probably stay through to July 7th.

I see that the US is finally sticking it to the UN.... good on us. If only we could find the balls to go all the way, and pull out completely.

85 littleoldlady  6/07/08 4:27:43 am reply quote 1

re: #73 galloping granny

HA. I went to a bat mitzvah a couple of weeks ago loaded for bear. I didn't get the chance to fight with anyone because they're all voting McCain.

/I had to dance! ;-)

86 Dar ul Harb  6/07/08 4:29:53 am reply quote 2

re: #77 Dar ul Harb

Good quote from B16 in the article:


Just one nugget from the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, "Instruction on Certain Aspects of the ‘Theology of Liberation':

"...it would be illusory and dangerous to ignore the intimate bond which radically unites them (liberation theologies), and to accept elements of the marxist analysis without recognizing its connections with the (Marxist) ideology, or to enter into the practice of the class-struggle and of its marxist interpretation while failing to see the kind of totalitarian society to which this process slowly leads."
- (Author: Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, Prefect, now Pope Benedict XVI; written in 1984)

87 Ojoe  6/07/08 4:30:00 am reply quote 2

re: #80 MandyManners

We are seeing the train wreck of the Democratic Party.

Only the mainstream media pundits will be surprised.

88 tappin52  6/07/08 4:31:33 am reply quote 0

re: #85 littleoldlady

/I had to dance! ;-)

I will be dancing in a few weeks at my son's wedding. Almost all conservatives, country music, avid hunters,etc. And this is New York!

89 LoFlyer  6/07/08 4:32:54 am reply quote 0

re: #84 irish rose

Good morning lizards, 64 degress and foggy here along the Lake Michigan shoreline... I'm listening to the wail of the foghorn as I enjoy my first cup of coffee. If the fog burns off before 10, I'll probably take the dog down to the lighthouse for a walk.

We've had a lot of rain here over the last couple of days and everything feels damp. It's a bad time for my basement dehumidifier to be pooping out, so first order of business this morning (after the DDT) is to open it up and try to fix it. I know nothing about small appliance repair, but it never hurts to open it up and take a peek in case its' something obvious.

Had a call from my Marine last night... it was very good to hear his voice. He's going to be home for a visit on the 22nd, and will probably stay through to July 7th.

I see that the US is finally sticking it to the UN.... good on us. If only we could find the balls to go all the way, and pull out completely.

Hello Rose, glad to hear your Marine is doing well and will be home soon! The US pulling out of the UN Human rights committee is a step in the right direction. I like McCain's idea of starting a league of Democracies. It will be interesting to see who ponies up the cash for the UN when the US pulls out. Let's see, Saudi Arabia, China or Russia? My bet is the Suads will come up with the cash, China and Russia are to damn cheap......If they don't the UN will fall apart....

90 littleoldlady  6/07/08 4:33:58 am reply quote 0

re: #88 tappin52

Mazel tov! :-)

91 Dar ul Harb  6/07/08 4:34:15 am reply quote 2

Big pull quote from the article:

Obama was raised by his mother, the agnostic anthropologist, to regard religion as "an expression of human culture...not its wellspring, just one of the many ways -- and not necessarily the best way -- that man attempted to control the unknowable and understand the deeper truths about our lives." (Audacity of Hope; p. 204)

However, when Barack Obama met Jeremiah Wright in the mid-eighties, between his years at Columbia and Harvard Law, he found a "faith" perfectly accommodating to his already well-formed worldview.

From The Audacity of Hope:

"In the history of these (African people's) struggles, I was able to see faith as more than just a comfort to the weary or a hedge against death; rather, it was an active, palpable agent in the world." (p. 207)

As Obama explains further, it was Wright's (and presumably Cone's, as required of new members at Trinity) peculiar form of Christianity that Obama found palatable:

"It was because of these newfound understandings (at Trinity under Wright) -- that religious commitment did not require me to suspend critical thinking, disengage from the battle for economic and social justice...that I was finally able to walk down the aisle of Trinity...and be baptized."

Wright's vision of Christianity was perfectly appetizing to Barack Obama; he didn't need to change a thing.

Well, that's just sad. It's not the Barack Obama that I know... ;)

92 LoFlyer  6/07/08 4:35:00 am reply quote 1

If the US pulls out of the UN, where will the UN headquarters move to?
/Mecca?

93 MandyManners  6/07/08 4:35:14 am reply quote 0

re: #87 Ojoe

We are seeing the train wreck of the Democratic Party.

Only the mainstream media pundits will be surprised.

I'd love to see HRC go third-party.

94 Panhandler  6/07/08 4:35:17 am reply quote 0

Slurp, masticate, burp. Napkin. Fruitcup and blueberry waffles, red is gonna lose his mind. lol dances, irish rose(Miss 4 Million) walks the dog, life is good in lizard land.
So when I retired from my desk job I decided I needed a productive hobby. I started working at a motorcycle dealer, uncrating , assembling and prepping bikes. Great productive use of my "leisure time". Now gas is $4 a gallon and I am getting smacked. I shoulda learned to play golf.

95 Isobutyrate  6/07/08 4:35:42 am reply quote 0

Wow! This is a very early thread. Did Charles get up to go bicycling, or did he have someone throwing up (loudly) in the alley outside his bedroom window, like I did, for what seemed like ALL NIGHT, keeping him awake?

96 goddessoftheclassroom  6/07/08 4:36:36 am reply quote 0

Good morning, Lizards.

97 littleoldlady  6/07/08 4:36:57 am reply quote 0

I have come to the conclusion (based upon current electoral maps) that this election is going to come down to Pennsylvania. And if it comes to Pennsylvania, it invariably depends upon the 4 suburban counties bordering Philadelphia. Hillary did fairly well here.

/there's hanging chads all over my backyard!
//ACK!

98 greenmiler  6/07/08 4:37:21 am reply quote 0

re: #95 Isobutyrate

Wow! This is a very early thread. Did Charles get up to go bicycling, or did he have someone throwing up (loudly) in the alley outside his bedroom window, like I did, for what seemed like ALL NIGHT, keeping him awake?


Are you the one that threw the shoe at me? :)

99 LoFlyer  6/07/08 4:37:23 am reply quote 0

re: #95 Isobutyrate

Wow! This is a very early thread. Did Charles get up to go bicycling, or did he have someone throwing up (loudly) in the alley outside his bedroom window, like I did, for what seemed like ALL NIGHT, keeping him awake?

Charles is running the site on autopilot, he kicks off the morning thread auto-magically!

100 Isobutyrate  6/07/08 4:38:42 am reply quote 0

re: #99 LoFlyer

I should have known.

101 galloping granny  6/07/08 4:39:33 am reply quote 0

re: #80 MandyManners

My sister, the homosexual moonbat, and my mother, the Yellow Dog Democrat, are both voting for McCain.

That is exactly what I mean.

102 Isobutyrate  6/07/08 4:39:36 am reply quote 0

re: #98 greenmiler

There's nothing like hearing someone hurling to make you feel sick yourself.

103 akak  6/07/08 4:40:46 am reply quote 0

re: #92 LoFlyer

If the US pulls out of the UN, where will the UN headquarters move to?
/Mecca?

They are building a new hq in N.Y as we speak aren't they?

104 greenmiler  6/07/08 4:41:11 am reply quote 0

re: #102 Isobutyrate


You shoulda kept yelling,

Ralph's not here, go to sleep!

105 galloping granny  6/07/08 4:41:18 am reply quote 0

re: #93 MandyManners

I'd love to see HRC go third-party.

I wouldn't. That would really muddle the waters and might very well result in an Obama win.

106 goddessoftheclassroom  6/07/08 4:43:02 am reply quote 0

My impression is that the media is "creating" Obama. Although there are many things I don't like about McCain, I will support him because he is clearly the better choice for Commander-in-Chief.

I also think that McCain's POW experience taught him patience and timing. I think he's going to wait until September before he turns the simmer to a boil.

107 LoFlyer  6/07/08 4:43:05 am reply quote 0

re: #102 Isobutyrate

There's nothing like hearing someone hurling to make you feel sick yourself.

I remember a 10 hour flight across the US in a C-118, the air conditioning wasn't running well and crossing the rockies we ran into turbulance and guys started ralphing. The rest of us wanted from the smell. We were damn glad to get on the ground a couple hours later...

108 galloping granny  6/07/08 4:43:12 am reply quote 0

re: #88 tappin52

/I had to dance! ;-)

I will be dancing in a few weeks at my son's wedding. Almost all conservatives, country music, avid hunters,etc. And this is New York!

You must live Upstate.

109 galloping granny  6/07/08 4:44:16 am reply quote 2

re: #106 goddessoftheclassroom

My impression is that the media is "creating" Obama. Although there are many things I don't like about McCain, I will support him because he is clearly the better choice for Commander-in-Chief.

I also think that McCain's POW experience taught him patience and timing. I think he's going to wait until September before he turns the simmer to a boil.

I also think that POW experience taught him about the true face of evil.

110 greenmiler  6/07/08 4:44:20 am reply quote 0

re: #107 LoFlyer

Aromatherapy!

111 Ojoe  6/07/08 4:44:47 am reply quote 0

re: #93 MandyManners

Yes, I'd like to see her go 3rd party too, and because she deserves more respect than the Democrats have given her.

112 tappin52  6/07/08 4:44:57 am reply quote 0

re: #95 Isobutyrate
Yuck! Stay out of the alley.

113 goddessoftheclassroom  6/07/08 4:45:00 am reply quote 0

re: #88 tappin52

/I had to dance! ;-)

I will be dancing in a few weeks at my son's wedding. Almost all conservatives, country music, avid hunters,etc. And this is New York!

I LOVE to dance, too! Do you expect many single gentlemen among the guests, say, 40-50is? Do you mind wedding crashers? :)

114 Dar ul Harb  6/07/08 4:45:30 am reply quote 3

Another good pull quote, this one from Part 2:

After 20 years, Obama has resigned his membership at Trinity United Church of Christ. He did so after Rev. Michael Pfleger's rants against Hillary Clinton's white privilege made such a splash on the internet and television news.

But Obama's attempts to distance himself now from Trinity, Wright, Pfleger, Farrakhan and Cone mean nothing to me. He can, in my mind, no more disown them now, than he could months ago.

The Black Liberation Theology of TUCC that he chose as an adult is the only religious foundation, save the Islam he learned as a young child in an Indonesian school, that Barack Obama has ever had in his life.

Discovering Black Liberation Theology in Wright's church was the one thing that enabled Obama to see that those believing in a far left political ideology could also have religion. Obama's mother had taught him this wasn't the case.

Wright showed him another way, a Third Way.

115 MandyManners  6/07/08 4:45:42 am reply quote 0

re: #96 goddessoftheclassroom

Yo!

116 Panhandler  6/07/08 4:46:45 am reply quote 0

re: #107 LoFlyer

Ah yes, the Mighty C118. I got to visit a goodly part of the world crewing on those beauties.
Jets go whoosh
Pistons go "per diem, per diem"

117 tappin52  6/07/08 4:46:51 am reply quote 0

re: #108 galloping granny

You must live Upstate.

I am in lower Sullivan County, which is in the Southern Tier, but considered upstate to the city folks.

118 tappin52  6/07/08 4:48:01 am reply quote 0

re: #113 goddessoftheclassroom
I'm sur there will be a few.........come on over LOL.

119 goddessoftheclassroom  6/07/08 4:48:24 am reply quote 0

re: #115 MandyManners

Yo!

{MandyManners}

Good morning! I hope your day isn't as busy as mine is. One of the (many) hard things about being a single parent is transporting the kids to where they need to be.

Until a person stands in our shoes, he or she can't really understand.

120 LoFlyer  6/07/08 4:48:49 am reply quote 0

re: #110 greenmiler

Aromatherapy!

Could of