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Trouble for the Messiah

Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 11:20:33 am PDT

There’s an amazing amount of dislike for Barack Obama at the Hillary Clinton web site: HillaryClinton.com - Open Thread.

A typical comment out of hundreds:

No to OBAMA

I have thought long and hard about this, because Hillary has asked us to support Obama. My ultimate decision is based on the belief that we need someone that can bring us a better future and Hillary is the only one that can do this. I will not support Obama.

(Hat tip: committed.)

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1 Sharmuta  6/07/08 11:22:02 am reply quote

They're already moving to McCain. Awesome.

2 VegasRick  6/07/08 11:22:03 am reply quote

Let's HOPE they don't CHANGE their minds!

3 AmeriDan  6/07/08 11:22:26 am reply quote

And they turn on their own.

Good times.

4 jonathand  6/07/08 11:22:29 am reply quote

That comment doesn't seem mean or extra gun hugging.

5 AmeriDan  6/07/08 11:23:25 am reply quote

Sounds bitter too me.

6 Noam Sayin'  6/07/08 11:23:37 am reply quote

I've said it before, and still firmly believe it. Obama has no chance at winning.

Nice move, Democrats. In 2012, why don't you pick a candidate who doesn't suck?

7 Sharmuta  6/07/08 11:24:18 am reply quote
No Obama - We will not forget or forgive - We will not "fall in line" - We will not drink the KOOLAID!

You go guys and gals!

8 CheatyPantsMcSweatervest  6/07/08 11:24:46 am reply quote

Hill should run as an independent.
/crosses fingers

9 AmeriDan  6/07/08 11:24:47 am reply quote

re: #6 Noam Sayin'

I've said it before, and still firmly believe it. Obama has no chance at winning.

Nice move, Democrats. In 2012, why don't you pick a candidate who doesn't suck?

But it's worked so well for them in the past.

/

10 Sharmuta  6/07/08 11:25:14 am reply quote
I am now a registered Republican in a show of defiance, our family ended our lifelong democratic party affliation on Friday and became Republicans.

YEAH! Down with Dear Leader!

11 SpartanWoman  6/07/08 11:26:31 am reply quote

I gained a lot of respect for Hillary during her fight against this dreadful Obama, I don't blame them a bit. They started with a better opinion of her than I had as mine is a grudging admiration.

I could sleep soundly with a Clinton in the White House, did it for 8 years. Obama IS the company he keeps no matter how much he denies them and no matter how much subterfuge the press engages in. I do not trust him. Many seem to feel the same way.

I made my first McCain contribution today, via paypal. I feel good about this and will offer to answer phones, stuff envelopes, shine his shoes to prevent an Obama presidency.

12 rawmuse  6/07/08 11:26:35 am reply quote

I smell an Electoral landslide coming.

13 Capitalist Tool  6/07/08 11:26:42 am reply quote

It's a loong time 'til November.

14 Sharmuta  6/07/08 11:27:38 am reply quote

LMAO! Look at this chain:

BO..........

wants our email...........No Way

*Well, now they have my email

Will have to change it -immediately.

*email

You can always unsubscribe to any email you receive.

*Yep.

I'll report it as "junk".

15 winston06  6/07/08 11:27:48 am reply quote

a typical democrat?

16 winston06  6/07/08 11:28:09 am reply quote

re: #12 rawmuse

i hope so

17 CheatyPantsMcSweatervest  6/07/08 11:28:15 am reply quote

re: #9 AmeriDan

good point. Look at Dem's canddates since LBJ
Kerry- boring
Gore- same
Clinton- good choice
Dukakis- yeah nice one
Mondale- Where's the Beef?
Carter
McGovern
Humphrey
One good choice in 40 years! how inept can a party be?

18 solomonpanting  6/07/08 11:28:20 am reply quote

I will not support Obama.

She/he's not going to be the only one.

19 Sharmuta  6/07/08 11:28:35 am reply quote

This just proves it. No honor among thieves.

20 AmeriDan  6/07/08 11:29:46 am reply quote
"1. trace your hands on an 8x11 sheet of paper
2. write your name and city/state in the center of your hands.
3. above the hands, write: "These hands are on the front lines of democracy and they continue to work for Hillary."
4. below the hands, write: "I am one of 18 million. Hillary for President 2008"

put it in an envelope and send it off to the DNC.

by Susan in WA State at 6/7/2008 1:55:58 PM

That'll show'em. Preach on sister!

21 unrealizedviewpoint  6/07/08 11:29:49 am reply quote

re: #2 VegasRick

Let's HOPE they don't CHANGE their minds!

They've got 150 days to do just that.
Remember who the enemy is?
It ain't the other one who is also trying to pass out all the free stuff.

22 Dr. Shalit  6/07/08 11:30:24 am reply quote

re: #10 Sharmuta

YEAH! Down with Dear Leader!

Sharm -

Finally made the change to vote for ROMNEY in the NJ Pres. Primary, not that other one this past week. Was mentally wrenching. Socio-Ethnic thingy. Oh well, that's over and I'm still alive and well.

-S-

23 Charles  6/07/08 11:30:56 am reply quote

OT: Fascist sympathizers are sending me more angry email, for posting that picture of Pat Buchanan with the Vlaams Belang leaders.

24 Sizzlack  6/07/08 11:31:45 am reply quote

The more and more normal rational people get to know Obama, the less likely they will be to vote for him in November. Plain and simple.

25 SpartanWoman  6/07/08 11:32:08 am reply quote

re: #22 Dr. Shalit

I was a Romney NJ voter too. I would walk across burning coals to vote for McCain now.

26 karmic_inquisitor  6/07/08 11:32:32 am reply quote

Think P.O.F.

Pennsylvania
Ohio
Florida

McCain wins those and there's nothing that the Messiah can do but ... Hope!

27 Maximu§  6/07/08 11:32:43 am reply quote

Uh-oh...looks like the Hillary supporters are not going to drink that Kool-aid.

28 karmic_inquisitor  6/07/08 11:33:15 am reply quote

re: #25 SpartanWoman

I was a Romney NJ voter too. I would walk across burning coals to vote for McCain now.

You have the nic for walking across burning coals!

29 Sharmuta  6/07/08 11:33:17 am reply quote

re: #23 Charles

OT: Fascist sympathizers are sending me more angry email, for posting that picture of Pat Buchanan with the Vlaams Belang leaders.

Are they upset you're tarnishing vlaams belang with pat, or upset you're tarnishing pat with vlamms belang?

30 bellamags  6/07/08 11:33:28 am reply quote

I'll post this again:

I know an aide to a lobbyist in Washington who is a young gay black man who is also a lifelong democrat. He was asked what he thought of Obama and he said and I quote "He's the Devil".

31 DistantThunder  6/07/08 11:33:38 am reply quote

re: #23 Charles

OT: Fascist sympathizers are sending me more angry email, for posting that picture of Pat Buchanan with the Vlaams Belang leaders.

Someone else posted a saying: Throw a rock into a pack of wolves; the one that yelps is the one that got hit.

32 redheadredstate  6/07/08 11:33:39 am reply quote

First mistake the dems made was nominating BHO as their candidate for 2008, second mistake the cap and trade bill the dem wits are trying to push through at a time when gas is at an all time high. I do believe that they've realized too late that their candidate is a empty suit but they like the Republicans are stuck with who we've got. This years presidential candidates remind me of that line from the Simon and Garfunkel song "laugh about it when you've got to choose, either way you look at it you lose" BHO is a disaster, JMc is not conservative but at least he's less of a mess than BHO.

33 SpartanWoman  6/07/08 11:33:43 am reply quote

re: #23 Charles

OT: Fascist sympathizers are sending me more angry email, for posting that picture of Pat Buchanan with the Vlaams Belang leaders.

Gotta hate those fascist sympathizers! You are a brave man to publish what you do, Charles.

Many thanks

34 AmeriDan  6/07/08 11:34:09 am reply quote

re: #17 CheatyPantsMcSweatervest

That's a scary rollcall, alright.

35 looking closely  6/07/08 11:34:13 am reply quote

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

re: #215 committed

Take a look at the comments on Hillary's website.

[Link: blog.hillaryclinton.com...]

Hillary................................. .........

We support you FOREVER!

BUT we will NEVER support BO! He doesn't deserve it! He stole it! NEVER means NEVER!

Also, we will FOREVER remember what BO, his nasty supporters, MSM, & the UNdemocratic DNC did in this election.

McCain 08!

Hillary 2012!

Good stuff, but you have to consider it in context.
Who the hell posts on the Hillary campaign site, but the most diehard partisan Clinton fans?
There are still months before the election, and most of the ones supporting Clinton will eventually gravitate towards Obama. The fact is, Hilary and Obama's platforms are essentially identical, with the sole difference of Obama being more appeasement-oriented in foreign policy.

Still, with the Dem party being split nearly exactly evenly between Clinton and Obama, if even 10% of the Clinton voters defect from her to McCain, that could be enough to tip close states and swing the election.

36 Charles  6/07/08 11:34:30 am reply quote

re: #29 Sharmuta

Are they upset you're tarnishing vlaams belang with pat, or upset you're tarnishing pat with vlamms belang?

[Link: tundratabloid.blogspot.com...]

37 debutaunt  6/07/08 11:34:39 am reply quote

re: #23 Charles

OT: Fascist sympathizers are sending me more angry email, for posting that picture of Pat Buchanan with the Vlaams Belang leaders.

Nice photo. They looked so relaxed sitting together.

38 psyop  6/07/08 11:34:52 am reply quote

Looks like some more Operation Chaos success...

I am sure a good number of Clinton supporters will vote McCain or abstain, but many who say they will never vote Obama will do just that at crunch time.

39 karmic_inquisitor  6/07/08 11:35:17 am reply quote

re: #23 Charles

How does that work in their minds?

Is it that the deny the events in the picture? Or that it implies something that they don't know to be true (and support)? Or is it that they don't like the truth getting out?

40 Dianna  6/07/08 11:35:39 am reply quote

re: #11 SpartanWoman

Me, too.

Though being in California, I could probably save myself the effort.

41 DistantThunder  6/07/08 11:35:41 am reply quote

Obama's credentials and friends will mobilize Republicans like never before. Obama makes Hillary almost look reasonable. ALMOST.

42 godfrey  6/07/08 11:35:57 am reply quote

I never thought I'd say this, but I'm impressed with Hillary supporters. At least they can see through the Obama Myth.

43 karmic_inquisitor  6/07/08 11:36:08 am reply quote

re: #30 bellamags

I'll post this again:

I know an aide to a lobbyist in Washington who is a young gay black man who is also a lifelong democrat. He was asked what he thought of Obama and he said and I quote "He's the Devil".

Did he elaborate as to why he thinks that?

44 Sharmuta  6/07/08 11:36:23 am reply quote

re: #36 Charles

Thanks- that's what I figured.

45 ciaospirit  6/07/08 11:36:44 am reply quote

re: #11 SpartanWoman

I gained a lot of respect for Hillary during her fight against this dreadful Obama, I don't blame them a bit. They started with a better opinion of her than I had as mine is a grudging admiration.

I could sleep soundly with a Clinton in the White House, did it for 8 years. Obama IS the company he keeps no matter how much he denies them and no matter how much subterfuge the press engages in. I do not trust him. Many seem to feel the same way.

I made my first McCain contribution today, via paypal. I feel good about this and will offer to answer phones, stuff envelopes, shine his shoes to prevent an Obama presidency.

Good for you! This is the first time I am actively going to get involved in a campaign. I noticed when I went to an Obama rally that the workers were signing up mostly students to vote by absentee ballot, knowing that students probably won't be inconvenienced come election day and actually go vote. Now they can just mail that vote in. Smart strategy. McCain ought to do the same with the older crowd.

46 Charles  6/07/08 11:36:44 am reply quote

re: #39 karmic_inquisitor

Or is it that they don't like the truth getting out?

Bingo.

47 SpartanWoman  6/07/08 11:36:46 am reply quote

re: #40 Dianna

Me, too.

Though being in California, I could probably save myself the effort.

I'm from NJ, but I would despise myself if I failed to vote this year.

48 VegasRick  6/07/08 11:37:16 am reply quote

re: #21 unrealizedviewpoint

They've got 150 days to do just that.
Remember who the enemy is?
It ain't the other one who is also trying to pass out all the free stuff.

We need to keep reminding those people that obambi "stole her show!".

49 ploome hineni  6/07/08 11:37:17 am reply quote

re: #5 AmeriDan

Sounds bitter too me.

sounds like not everyone is buying the crap the obamination is selling

just because the Dem spinmeisters keep saying we should not damn the obamination because of his associations with Wright, Pflegr, Ayers, Rezko and the PLO's Rashid Khalidi

dosn;t mean there is not a very resonable and large segment of the population who are looking for leadership and national prosperity and security

and are not pathologically fixated on getting ANY so called Democrat into office

many people vote for the candidate...

and may not support this lying marxist with the American hating wif and black power entourage

/spit

50 Maximu§  6/07/08 11:37:18 am reply quote

re: #23 Charles


Pat Buchanan surprised me, I never thought he would support the horrors that Hitler and his thugs brought upon the world.

What a POS.

51 Dr. Shalit  6/07/08 11:37:21 am reply quote

#'s 25 and 28

Thankfully I won't have to walk across "Burning Coals" to vote for "Cactus Jack" McCain - Only across the street, in November, when the asphalt in Asbury Park, NJ is COOL.

-S-

52 Dianna  6/07/08 11:37:29 am reply quote

re: #23 Charles

Should we send out for the waaahmbulance?

53 psyop  6/07/08 11:37:47 am reply quote

Also, why does the MSM not imply that those Clinton supporters are racist, as they do for McCain (or other candidates NOT named Obama) supporters.

Just a thought...

54 looking closely  6/07/08 11:38:16 am reply quote

re: #23 Charles

OT: Fascist sympathizers are sending me more angry email, for posting that picture of Pat Buchanan with the Vlaams Belang leaders.

Dumbasses.
You're just the "messenger".
They should be angry with either themselves or Buchanan.

55 dave in NC  6/07/08 11:38:23 am reply quote

This sounds to me like the conservatives who say they won’t vote for McCain to ”punish” the republican party; personally, that always seemed to me too much like the identity politics of the dems. But I understand the frustration of the women; just like our conservatives, they’ve been good party loyalists who are being taken for granted because the party believes they have nowhere else to go.

When it comes down to it, where else do they (and we) have to go? Somebody could win big by tapping into the frustration and sense of abandonment of the cons and women; it remains to be seen if McCain has the sense to do that.

56 Sharmuta  6/07/08 11:38:50 am reply quote

re: #54 looking closely

Dumbasses.
You're just the "messenger".
They should be angry with either themselves or Buchanan.

Or with vlaams belang.

57 CheatyPantsMcSweatervest  6/07/08 11:38:53 am reply quote

re: #53 psyop

Also, why does the MSM not imply that those Clinton supporters are racist, as they do for McCain (or other candidates NOT named Obama) supporters.

Just a thought...

I know I know!
Could it be the (D) beside their Names?

58 ironbill  6/07/08 11:38:54 am reply quote

I read some of the comments... Man, Liberals are so attracted to the "personality."

The view politics through the same lens as a pro wrestling fanatic.

These are some enormously stupid mohterf*****s

60 Capitalist Tool  6/07/08 11:39:14 am reply quote

I just bought gas at a "gas war" for $3.63 and across the street was $3.56, but judged the longer lines and stupid driver antics as not worth it.

If this keeps up, who is gonna vote for Obama and his party's ever more obvious delight that we are saving the planet by being unable to drive to work... or no longer having work to drive to?

61 psyop  6/07/08 11:39:15 am reply quote

re: #54 looking closely

Dumbasses.
You're just the "messenger".
They should be angry with either themselves or Buchanan.

Hey! No fair using logic and reason! That is uncalled for in todays political discourse!

/sarc

62 karmic_inquisitor  6/07/08 11:39:28 am reply quote

re: #36 Charles

"simply being overly simplistic and cavalier"


Rotating title nomination.

63 lanaty  6/07/08 11:39:45 am reply quote

I'll believe it when I see it. When push comes to shove, I still think these fools will support Obama. Ugh.

64 least  6/07/08 11:39:54 am reply quote

Dang! My comp spasmed or something and I ended up posting this on the last thread . . . 'scuzzi, please.

=======================
Blue on blue!
Circular firing squad!
Political"ethnic cleansing"

w00t!

BTW: anyone know where "w00t" came from?

65 uptight  6/07/08 11:40:18 am reply quote

From the McCain blog:

Hi there! Well, you've got yourself another Hillary supporter switching over to John McCain. I'm not ready to call myself a Republican yet, but I did leave the Democrat party and after educating myself about John McCain I think I could vote for him. Of course my first choice is Hillary Clinton but if that's not going to happen then I will be voting for John McCain. I was told we were being welcomed here so I hope that's true and I look forward to learning more about John McCain.
66 bellamags  6/07/08 11:40:22 am reply quote

re: #43 karmic_inquisitor

No. I do know that he feels some blacks are easily lead down wrong paths by the likes of Jesse Jackson, rap music and their own hate for white people.

Next time I see him I will ask him to elaborate:)

67 calcajun  6/07/08 11:40:34 am reply quote

Ah, people say things like that and the next thing you know, they're getting married.

I'd raise an eyebrow if they were saying, in droves, that they'd vote for McCain before BHO.

68 Dr. Shalit  6/07/08 11:40:36 am reply quote

re: #51 Dr. Shalit

Reply to Self -

OK all of you ex and current NJ Residents. My polling place is the former site of the "MONTE CARLO POOL and BEACH CLUB" - whaddabout that?

-S-

69 AmeriDan  6/07/08 11:41:08 am reply quote

re: #49 ploome hineni

"

and may not support this lying marxist with the American hating wif and black power entourage"

I hope and pray that is a true statement.

70 akak  6/07/08 11:41:09 am reply quote

Pretty smart of the White House to come with the oil is going to ruin the global economy as the radar shined on Hillary.

71 psyop  6/07/08 11:41:27 am reply quote

re: #57 CheatyPantsMcSweatervest

I know I know!
Could it be the (D) beside their Names?

No, that couldn't be it. Not from our wonderful unbiased and totally non-partisan media. They are merely "observers", relating to us hard facts and letting us hash out the nuances...

I am feeling very sarcastic today, must be the weather...

72 Dianna  6/07/08 11:41:30 am reply quote

re: #47 SpartanWoman

Yes!

Even if there's no one you want to vote for, there's usually something you want to vote against. This year, it's about as important as it's ever been.

73 galloping granny  6/07/08 11:41:31 am reply quote

re: #30 bellamags

I'll post this again:

I know an aide to a lobbyist in Washington who is a young gay black man who is also a lifelong democrat. He was asked what he thought of Obama and he said and I quote "He's the Devil".

There are more than a few who think just exactly that.

74 looking closely  6/07/08 11:41:42 am reply quote

re: #60 Capitalist Tool

I just bought gas at a "gas war" for $3.63 and across the street was $3.56, but judged the longer lines and stupid driver antics as not worth it.

If this keeps up, who is gonna vote for Obama and his party's ever more obvious delight that we are saving the planet by being unable to drive to work... or no longer having work to drive to?


Will gas prices rising ever-higher, and with oil just hitting a record new high price yesterday, this ought to be a winning issue at the polls.

All McCain has to do is tout "safe" coal and "environmentally friendly" domestic oil drilling, and he should have a winner.

75 bellamags  6/07/08 11:42:05 am reply quote

re: #73 galloping granny

Lets hope granny ;)

76 Sharmuta  6/07/08 11:42:05 am reply quote

What a dumbass at Tundra. That's not a link to the vb party platform- it's a link to CVF where it's again not linked to the vb party platform.

77 gymnast  6/07/08 11:42:09 am reply quote

re: #50 Maximu§

Pat Buchanan surprised me, I never thought he would support the horrors that Hitler and his thugs brought upon the world.

What a POS.

Puking Pat will never rid himself of his lunatic bile. He is a totally disoriented individual and his prominence says much about the ignorance of his supporters.

78 redheadredstate  6/07/08 11:42:20 am reply quote

#55 Dave in NYC

When it comes down to it, where else do they (and we) have to go? Somebody could win big by tapping into the frustration and sense of abandonment of the cons and women; it remains to be seen if McCain has the sense to do that.

McCain is a known quantity in my book. He has thrown the conservative wing of the Republican party under the bus time and time again. I personally don't like his brand of politics, too wimpy and noodle spined for me. I'll vote for him because the idea of either BHO or the Clintonator getting into office sends chills down my spine. I'll have to take a long bath afterward to wash the stink off but I'll vote for JMc...reluctantly

79 DistantThunder  6/07/08 11:42:33 am reply quote

re: #45 ciaospirit

Good for you! This is the first time I am actively going to get involved in a campaign. I noticed when I went to an Obama rally that the workers were signing up mostly students to vote by absentee ballot, knowing that students probably won't be inconvenienced come election day and actually go vote. Now they can just mail that vote in. Smart strategy. McCain ought to do the same with the older crowd.

While we were sleeping soundly with clinton in the white house, our enemies were ratcheting up their terrorism operations and executing thousands of innocents. Clinton - both of them - are missing a conscience. I'm so glad the anniversary of 911 is in September, October would be even better.

80 VegasRick  6/07/08 11:42:46 am reply quote

re: #74 looking closely

Will gas prices rising ever-higher, and with oil just hitting a record new high price yesterday, this ought to be a winning issue at the polls.

All McCain has to do is tout "safe" coal and "environmentally friendly" domestic oil drilling, and he should have a winner.

Drill here. Drill now!

81 psyop  6/07/08 11:43:16 am reply quote

re: #80 VegasRick

Drill here. Drill now!

I second that!

82 chicagodudewhotrades  6/07/08 11:43:51 am reply quote

re: #23 Charles

Charles, just delete it. I can't imagine you give a damn what they say

83 Peter Verkooijen  6/07/08 11:43:57 am reply quote

Let's not gloat about this.

A lot of these Hillary supporters will vote for Obama when it comes down to it, just to prevent "a third Bush term". Let them believe an Obama presidency is inevitable, so they can safely stay home.

84 Dr. Shalit  6/07/08 11:43:59 am reply quote

re: #70 akak

akak -

Until further notice, I consider GWB to be Honorably Semi-Retired. Same thing happened to "Billy-Jeff" 8 years ago - though not as honorably.

-S-

85 galloping granny  6/07/08 11:44:01 am reply quote

re: #50 Maximu�

Pat Buchanan surprised me, I never thought he would support the horrors that Hitler and his thugs brought upon the world.

What a POS.

I have said for many years now that the political spectrum is not a straight line, it is a circle. If you travel far enough left or far enough right you come to a place where the two become indistinguishable.

86 Capitalist Tool  6/07/08 11:44:55 am reply quote

See ya later fellow lizardoids.
Back to the salt mines...

87 MarineMomSue  6/07/08 11:45:00 am reply quote

re: #32 redheadredstate

First mistake the dems made was nominating BHO as their candidate for 2008, second mistake the cap and trade bill the dem wits are trying to push through at a time when gas is at an all time high. I do believe that they've realized too late that their candidate is a empty suit but they like the Republicans are stuck with who we've got. This years presidential candidates remind me of that line from the Simon and Garfunkel song "laugh about it when you've got to choose, either way you look at it you lose" BHO is a disaster, JMc is not conservative but at least he's less of a mess than BHO.

bumper sticker material:
Vote McCain!
He's less of a mess than Obama!

88 CheatyPantsMcSweatervest  6/07/08 11:45:31 am reply quote

I think Congress should put more money in flux compacitor research. then we'll just need to rip off plutonium from Libyan Nationals to power our motor vehicles.

89 AmeriDan  6/07/08 11:45:36 am reply quote

re: #85 galloping granny

I have said for many years now that the political spectrum is not a straight line, it is a circle. If you travel far enough left or far enough right you come to a place where the two become indistinguishable.

Deep, and very true. A ding for you.

90 bellamags  6/07/08 11:46:05 am reply quote

re: #80 VegasRick

Hey Vegas! I have been telling all of my clients and customers to go to the website and sign the petition no matter what political philosophy they may practice. We all need to get everyone to sign the petition on Newts site.

Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay Less

91 looking closely  6/07/08 11:46:14 am reply quote

re: #30 bellamags

I'll post this again:

I know an aide to a lobbyist in Washington who is a young gay black man who is also a lifelong democrat. He was asked what he thought of Obama and he said and I quote "He's the Devil".

To me calling him "the Devil" is not any different than calling him the "lightbringer" ("lucifer"?).

I see Obama as a particularly dangerous combination of charisma, ignorance, and hubris.

92 akak  6/07/08 11:46:32 am reply quote

re: #84 Dr. Shalit

akak -

Until further notice, I consider GWB to be Honorably Semi-Retired. Same thing happened to "Billy-Jeff" 8 years ago - though not as honorably.

-S-


I agree though he said jihad after the announcement not to say jihad, so there may be hope.

93 Charles  6/07/08 11:47:13 am reply quote

New post.

In your face, fascists.

94 bellamags  6/07/08 11:47:22 am reply quote

re: #91 looking closely

In context, I don't think thats what he meant ;)

95 razorbacker  6/07/08 11:47:22 am reply quote

I hope Obama lives a long, healthy life.

And I hope that every single day of that life he asks himself, "Why, oh why, didn't the American people vote for me?"

And I'm gone. I don't exactly know what I'm going to do, but I'm going to do it in sunshine and fresh air.

96 Dr. Shalit  6/07/08 11:47:46 am reply quote

re: #85 galloping granny

"g-g" -

Pat Buchanan, as do some others, confuse the idea of USA First with USA Un-Prepared. And that is giving Pat somewhat of a pass.

-S-

97 Colonel Panik  6/07/08 11:48:01 am reply quote

re: #50 Maximu§

Pat Buchanan surprised me, I never thought he would support the horrors that Hitler and his thugs brought upon the world.

What a POS.

Pat Buchanan has been a fascist sympathiser since he was a kid. Father Coughlin, a clerical fascist "America Firster" was one of his early influences.

98 rightside  6/07/08 11:48:54 am reply quote

re: #23 Charles

Amazing what happens when you shine sunlight into the dark corners. The cockroaches scurry around.

99 galloping granny  6/07/08 11:49:04 am reply quote

re: #87 MarineMomSue

bumper sticker material:
Vote McCain!
He's less of a mess than Obama!

One thing you can say for McCain - he has served this nation with honor every day since he was 17 years old. I don't agree with all of his positions on everything by a long shot, but I don't believe that he will throw our country under the bus.

100 Maximu§  6/07/08 11:49:12 am reply quote

re: #89 AmeriDan

Deep, and very true. A ding for you.

Make that 2...well said Granny!

101 solomonpanting  6/07/08 11:49:35 am reply quote

Just a sample from the link:

Crossing Party Lines In Nov
I am still a registered Democrat, but will br crossing party lines in November to vote for John McCain, as will most of my fellow Pennsylvanians.

McCain 2008
Hillary 2012

Mart in PA

Yep. I'll Venture to say this has the makings of a Wipeout.

102 reine.de.tout  6/07/08 11:49:38 am reply quote

re: #1 Sharmuta

They're already moving to McCain. Awesome.

Bob Beckel on FoxNews just said things will turn around by election day, and they'll be back in the fold.

103 AmeriDan  6/07/08 11:49:41 am reply quote

New thread --------->

104 wolfie  6/07/08 11:50:01 am reply quote

re: #53 psyop

Also, why does the MSM not imply that those Clinton supporters are racist, as they do for McCain (or other candidates NOT named Obama) supporters.

Just a thought...

Well, it depends what you mean by a "Hillary supporter." If you mean the folks who just love the Hildebeast, you've got a point. But if you mean the average Democrat who voted for her, the MSM was all over their supposed racism. Think WVA, KY, PA, even Ohio.......the bitter and the clingy, y'no.

105 galloping granny  6/07/08 11:50:52 am reply quote

re: #91 looking closely

To me calling him "the Devil" is not any different than calling him the "lightbringer" ("lucifer"?).

I see Obama as a particularly dangerous combination of charisma, ignorance, and hubris.

That is actually a pretty direct translation - Lucifer --------> lightbringer.

106 galloping granny  6/07/08 11:51:10 am reply quote

re: #102 reine.de.tout

Bob Beckel on FoxNews just said things will turn around by election day, and they'll be back in the fold.

He's hoping.

107 VegasRick  6/07/08 11:52:16 am reply quote

re: #90 bellamags

Hey Vegas! I have been telling all of my clients and customers to go to the website and sign the petition no matter what political philosophy they may practice. We all need to get everyone to sign the petition on Newts site.

108 Maximu§  6/07/08 11:52:51 am reply quote

re: #93 Charles

New post.

In your face, fascists.

Most outsiders who think LGF's are Fascist don't realize that we Lizards HATE the Fascists on the Far-Right as much as we HATE the Fascist on the Far-left.

109 solomonpanting  6/07/08 11:53:21 am reply quote

re: #106 galloping granny

He's hoping.

Of course. What's he going to say "We're screwed"?

110 wolfie  6/07/08 11:53:41 am reply quote